Defining the Alpha Female

In a previous post I discussed a workable definition of identifying alpha males that most non-delusional people would have no problem agreeing with.  Here I will set out what defines the alpha female.  In some ways, the alpha female is a mirror image of her male counterpart.  Where quantity counts heavily toward a man’s rank, quality does so for women.  Where notches boost a man’s score, commitment boosts a woman’s score.

The amount of variables that go into determining a woman’s sexual market value is considerably smaller than it is for men, thus making the determination of the alpha female quite a bit easier.  The reason for this has to do with the inherently imprecise and heterogeneous nature of male power versus the comparatively objective nature of female power.  A boring rich man, a starving artist, and a charismatic rapscallion can all do well with women, so individual measures such as wealth, creativity, and dominance, on their own, fall short as inclusive definitions of alpha male status.  We have had to use indirect evidence of a man’s alphaness — his success with women — to come up with a male ranking system that allows for very few exceptions to the rule.

Women, on the other hand, can be ranked more directly (though not entirely).  Unless she’s got HIV or is missing a vagina, a 9 will in almost all cases be more alpha than a 6, regardless of how many men she dates.  This stems from the fact that men are not as diverse as women in what turns them on in the opposite sex.  Men dig beauty.  A feminine personality and sexual adventurism follow in a distant second and third place.  Smarts takes up the rear in fourth.  Men’s simple attraction programming means that we can rank women by their hotness without worrying about too many exceptions that violate the integrity of our ranking system.

But that is not the whole story.  Besides hotness, there is one other factor that influences female rank — the maximum level of commitment she can extract from her best option.  Her personality, charm, sexiness, character, and nurturing ability will make the difference here.  The best option rule is essential — men who are below her first choice offer unwanted commitment while men who are too far above her are guaranteed to put less effort into the relationship.

So the two variables defining female rank are:
Female hotness (sorry girls, but beauty is 99% NOT in the eye of the beholder).
Maximum level of commitment from the top suitor (this is what really separates the contenders from the pretenders; committing up is trickier than dating up).

Male partner rank is included as a reference point showing what pool of men is normally available to a woman of a particular rank.  This will on average be a little higher than the woman’s rank since women date up.

What is not included —
Number of partners means little to a woman’s rank.  Even a 1 can get fucks dumped in her by a drooling parade of Quasimodos.  Of course, a 10 will have way more males desiring her than the 1, but since men are more willing to occasionally dumpster dive and women don’t lust for variety as much as men do, we will leave that irrelevant variable out of the equation.

Female Rank     Hotness(F)   Male Rank    Max Commitment Level
Warpigs*                0                    0,1          30 seconds through glory hole
Lesser Omega       1,2                  1,2,3        15 minutes, moonless night only,
                                                                  contacts removed, never sober,
                                                                  doggy style with nothing but
                                                                  genitalia touching and a vomit
                                                                  bag nearby
Greater Omega      2,3                2,3,4        one hour with aid of mexican
                                                                  wrestling mask and stick to
                                                                  bite down on
Lesser Beta            3,4               3,4,5       4 weeks and nobody knows
                                                                  except you and your god
Beta                        4,5,6            4,5,6,7     6 months – 5 yrs, no flowers, no
                                                                  poems, no nights out, zero foreplay,
                                                                  she never comes, ultimatum spurs
                                                                  marriage proposal, divorce a messy
                                                                  but welcome denouement,
                                                                  housework is 70/30 favoring the man
Greater Beta          6,7               6,7,8         5 – 10 years, marriage tainted by
                                                                  at least one affair, passion fades
                                                                  after first year, marriage becomes
                                                                  comfortable compromise, chance of
                                                                  divorce slightly beats the odds
Lesser Alpha          7,8               7,8,9        10 – 15 years, she convinces him
                                                                  to marry right away instead of
                                                                  cohabit, first 5 years of marriage are
                                                                  magical time of animal sex and sweet
                                                                  romance, kids are never resented,
                                                                  husband works ass off to support
                                                                  family, super hot mistress
                                                                  precipitates divorce
Alpha                       8,9               8,9,10      10 years of faithful cohabitation,
                                                                  followed by 15 years of progressively
                                                                  unfaithful marriage (hey, hot people
                                                                  are constantly tempted), affairs
                                                                  ignored, sex always good, romantic
                                                                  gestures clever, original, and heart-
                                                                  warming, family portrait painted by
                                                                  norman rockwell descendant
Super Alpha           10                10           foreva eva, a polyamorous eternity,
                                                                  love stays strong (or at least until she
                                                                  hits the wall)

*Water cooler bonus: there are twice as many dregs as warpigs.

Exception argument:
What about the rare female 4 who snags a male 8?  Doesn’t that make her an alpha?

No.  Let’s turn it around to show why.  If a male 4 snags a female 8 his ranking goes up, maybe even as far up as a male 8.  Other women see and hear about him with his hot girl and the phenomenon of female preselection assures that he will now be more attractive to a bigger pool of women.  Not all female 8s will suddenly find him attractive, but enough will that it will make a difference in his alpha ranking.

Conversely, if a female 4 lands a male 8 her sexual status ranking will barely nudge up, if at all.  That is because male preselection does not work.  Other men won’t become more attracted to a female 4 despite seeing her with a much higher status guy.  They will be curious, but their crotches won’t stir.  Her basic package of looks will still dictate the amount of attraction she can generate from men.                     





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  1. First of once I got to the chart I had to spit out my tea. Did you really just say, “foreva eva”!!!!

    But what the hell is going on? The way you broke it down on the female 4 snagging an 8 is the exact same thing I was saying in my post today about being seen in public with a woman WAY less attractive than you. Dear God this is a littly creepy.

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  2. […] admin wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptdoggy style with nothing but genitalia touching and a vomit bag nearby Greater Omega 2,3 2,3,4 one hour with aid of mexican wrestling mask and stick to bite down on Lesser Beta 3,4 3,4,5 4 weeks and nobody knows except you and your god … […]

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  3. “unless she’s missing a vagina”

    Hahahahahaha.

    Seriously, though – these two posts have been quite enjoyable. The writing and analysis is sharp. Keep doin’ you.

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  4. Yes, beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. BUT – certain kinds of smart women can convince men – a great many men, so that the “beholder” factor isn’t part of the equation – that they are more attractive than they really are. It’s not just any kind of smartness that can accomplish this – it’s the kind that knows how to do good presentation (making the most of a nice but not perfect face and figure), sexiness of manner, and manipulation of the emotions, esp. flattery of men.

    Greater natural beauties often do less well than this type of smart woman. And some of the greatest beauties I’ve known had a terrible time with their men because they were too nice, or in some cases too stupid, to know when a suitor was a s–t. A beauty needs to learn a certain canniness and shrewdness in order to survive; if she doesn’t, her life can easily be ruined by men.

    And some alpha women never marry at all, because they can’t find a man who lives up to their standards, or because they’re unwilling to tolerate infidelity as the price of marriage to a fellow alpha.

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  5. Brilliant.

    Frankly, I’ve never seen a female 4 dating a male 8, sounds like a girl’s nonsensical argument. Maybe as a slumpbuster but being seen in public with such low value does a lot of harm to one’s social proof.

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  6. So DF are you saying you’ve never done it “been seen in public with a woman of such low value”

    Come on son…. keep it real, it happens to the best of us

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  7. Is it really true that men are less likely to cheat on extremely hott women?

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  8. No, it’s not true that a man is less likely to cheat on a hot woman. After a time men crave the lure of the strange. My married (and faithful) buddies are always talking about it despite having good sex with their wives.

    I have to admit myself, exploring a new woman’s body and sexual responses is like exploring an undiscovered new country. It’s the lure of the strange.

    Like the old expression says, “Show me a hot woman and I’ll show you the guy who’s tired of f-ing her.”

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  9. VK, I’ve never slumpbusted below a 6 but you’ve gotta find creative ways to hide things from public view. You know like,”quick, put on this lampshade and hold this string between your teeth! Cool. Now don’t move.”

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  10. on September 27, 2007 at 5:42 pm David Alexander

    Interestingly, the beta and alpha charts, if you believe in them, makes a beta male like myself reconsider my options. Given that I don’t have the heart and the desire to become like her, my options are limited to basically what I’m doing right now, jerking off to a 200GB collection of porn and hoping for legalized prostitution or the chance to travel to where it’s legal. Sexbots just aren’t a realistic option at this point in time.

    How other men put up with ugly, sexless women is beyond me.

    After a time men crave the lure of the strange. My married (and faithful) buddies are always talking about it despite having good sex with their wives.

    That’s why marriage should be abolished and replaced with platonic friendships with women, and sex would be handled with short-term sexually charged relationships. The idea of forming an emotional bond with a woman seems plausible, but only limited to that only woman as a sexual partner seems foolish when most women really aren’t sexually attractive, nor any good at sex. This type of relationship structure will allow men to have sex with the few sexually active women that exist, and do so without putting their emotional bonds in jeopardy.

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  11. Oh shit. Should I stop befriending ugly girls? I was being nice to them to get into their social circles, meet hot friends, etc., but it might lower my status – a quandary, no? Or should it just be made clear that I’m not interested in her? I had lunch with one today with other good friends around (prolly a mistake), but she’s inviting me to her friend’s birthday party.

    “it’s the kind that knows how to do good presentation ”
    Totally. I was sitting next to a girl in class, gaming her intermittently. At one point I decided I’d stop, because I wasn’t attracted. But she just flirted so well that I got horny as fuck – maybe if she ‘presents’ well she gets the guy hornier, and thus his standards decline. I really wanted to fuck her right then and there, even though she was like a 6, 7 tops. Her surname’s Gonzalez – another girl was like this around me, also Hispanic. Hot-blooded latinas…

    “Maybe as a slumpbuster but being seen in public with such low value does a lot of harm to one’s social proof.”
    Remember, it’s mostly women who would care much, about the social proof aspect.

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  12. I wasn’t too alpha to find a man, DOBA. I was too Alpha to want to marry any of them.

    And yes, now I’m too old to count. But younger Alphas (high body count Alphas, I mean) still ask me for dates – and in public too.

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  13. on September 27, 2007 at 7:01 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    Great list, made all the more so by the fact that the female posters are already trying to find wiggle room to not think they’re part of it.

    Someone please tell me where one poster got the idea that some women are “too Alpha” to find a man/!

    She states Alpha for females is based on looks. What model can’t find a man? I think you’re confusing the “successful” women the media tells us should be attractive with the women who we really like.

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  14. Super Alpha 10 10 foreva eva, a polyamorous eternity,
    love stays strong (or at least until she
    hits the wall)

    Well, the single most important factor for a woman attractiveness is her age. I’ll take a 20 year old 6 any day before a 40 year old woman who used to be a 9. After 35, a woman’s attractiveness drops dramatically, fore mor than obvious reasons. Humping should produce little babies.

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  15. So a male becomes an alpha by sleeping with women. And a female becomes an alpha by being someone he really, really wants to sleep with. Huh. That seems just a bit… convenient…

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  16. Humping should produce little babies.

    Some of us hump because it’s fun and use various methods to ensure that there will be no little babies. Little babies while cute tend to interfere with future opportunities for humping.

    BTW, why are you so obsessed over fertility and having kids?

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  17. BTW, why are you so obsessed over fertility and having kids?

    First of all, as a man I wouldn’t recommend you to have kids before the age of 28. Enjoy your freedom. However, children are our only true legacy in this world. You shape them, educate them, leave something to the world. The only inmortality that exists is through our children. Men handle childless lives a lot better than women though. I know at least two relatively close women who are internally broken for not being able to have children, because they left it for too late. Society is lying to women when telling them to postpone childbirth into their thirties, when they should be starting at the latest at around 25. Western society’s soul is dying because of the lack of children, because never forget that a twenty year old on a 50 dollar bike has more future than a 60 year old on a 3000 dollar wheelchair. Western countries are slowly aging into oblivion. Children are the essence of a family.

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  18. i’m tired of charts, i want GRAPHS! send me the data and i’ll make something.

    and my real comment- you know those hot girls on the arm of a short, ugly troll? they’re suck of alphas playing them. a lot of women are smarter than you think, and we’re well aware of this chart. if i had all the choice in the world, i’d choose a beta man to marry over a super alpha. maybe he’d actually make a good dad and not cheat on me? or maybe some men, just some love their wives, even once they get old and fat. hey, i’ve seen it happen

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  19. First of all, as a man I wouldn’t recommend you to have kids before the age of 28. Enjoy your freedom.

    Remember kids, freedom is only for men, not for women.

    However, children are our only true legacy in this world.

    Not neccessarily my friend. If I donate the money that I’d plunk my hypothetical kids and invest it and donate it to a charity that helps people or some other group, I’ve probably left a bigger legacy than somebody who had kids who went on and became normal people. I may not have any kids, but I’d think that the mentoring and money that I give to my neice and nephews is making more of a difference.

    I know at least two relatively close women who are internally broken for not being able to have children, because they left it for too late.

    My godmother is unable to have children, but she made up for it by becoming active in my life and the lives of her other children who were close with her. It may not be the same, but she certainly didn’t go crazy.

    Western society’s soul is dying because of the lack of children, because never forget that a twenty year old on a 50 dollar bike has more future than a 60 year old on a 3000 dollar wheelchair.

    Except that a huge chunk of the world craves to live like we do in the Western World. There are plenty of people who’d trade their extra kids for a chance to live in a first world nation. Now, if you’re content living in poverty with ten kids in some rural third world nation, be my guest. Most of us aren’t interested in that option.

    Besides, children are expensive to raise in a first world nation. As the opportunity costs of raising children increases, the more likely that people will delay having children and decrease the number of children that they do have. You point out various third world nations as an example, but many of those are countries were costs are low and personal expectations are low along with the fact that women are unable to earn enough money to live on their own.

    BTW, I know people who have a impregnation fetish, and very few of them hold viewpoints similar to your own.

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  20. This stems from the fact that men are not as diverse as women in what turns them on in the opposite sex.

    Uh, no. Men are not as diverse in what they want in a long-term partner. In terms of “what turns them on,” they are WAY more diverse – look at all the different shapes and sizes of strippers that can turn men on, versus the characteristic rippling look, square jaw, etc. of pretty much ALL ‘hot guys.’

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  21. Your male and female Alpha charts contradict each other. As you move up the ranks, the males get to be more promiscuous and the females get to be more monogamous, and yet you have them progressively paired up with people of the same rank. It doesn’t add up.

    Contra your chart, the bottom four ranks of women probably (by necessity) get more commitment from their quality matched husbands than the top four ranks of women get from their quality matched husbands.

    For a similar reason, Alpha and Super Alpha women probably do better pairing with a man one to three ranks below them. Meaning Greater Beta/Lesser Alpha men are more likely to pair up monogamously with Alpha/Super Alpha females (and not fuck around), while A/SA men are more likely to pair off with B/GB/LA women (and fuck around with everybody).

    So women in the B/GB/LA category probably get the least commitment, but from the highest quality men.

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  22. I think Rain And is right on. If Alpha women inspire fidelity, they can’t marry Alpha men. The “proof” of female alphaness is marrying an LA or GB who is completely loyal, even though he has other options.

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  23. In other words, women are willing to trade in a little mate quality for a little more commitment, while men are willing to trade in a little mate quality for a little more room to fuck around.

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  24. Sorry, late addition to my comment, not a response to klo.

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  25. Rain And, that’s what I said.
    Sometimes I think you don’t totally believe your own posts.

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  26. Hey, no need to abolish marriage completely. Polygamy (pretty much always taken advantage of by men) was invented for a reason!

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  27. One thing that goes along with charm or charisma is degree of insecurity.

    I was fortunate to go to college where there was a minority of just ridiculously beautiful, smart, and elegant girls (mostly international students whose families likely owned half the country they came from). These girls were very nonchalant. They had poise. I couldn’t have felt more at ease around them.

    (I even had a date with one that included plenty of arm-touching, footsie, and laughter, and the date only ended b/c the coffeehouse was closing up. But she didn’t think I was right for her — ah well, what a date, and what a confidence boost. Another cheerily agreed to a date, but we’d misjudged each others’ heights since we saw each other sitting down in a computer lab — I’m 5’8 and she was probably 6′ or 6’1 — Bulgarian. She emailed to cancel. Haha, lesson learned.)

    That’s in stark contrast to how I felt interacting with the 7s and 8s. They’re in the limbo realm where, depending on the guy’s tastes, he might rank them a 6, so they’re constantly on the defensive, desperate to prove that they’re not a lowly 6. One way is to just act unnecessarily rude to guys who ask them out, to convince themselves that that’s what the 9s and 10s must be doing. I remember feeling very awkward and nervous around them.

    I obviously felt at ease around the 5s and below, since they weren’t very hot, and that’s really what can make a girl intimidating to a college-age guy.

    The same goes for guys, I assume, but girls probably have more detailed accounts of how the 9s and 10s differ from the 7s and 8s. It’s the same pattern, though: the first thing a 7 does is blab about how he nearly missed the date because his MERCEDES was cut off, and his ROLEX almost came loose, etc.

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  28. are most american women really like this, agnostic et al.? I’m scared. no wonder you guys have to act like douches.

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  29. Oh gimme a break. I said it was a difference between the 7s and 8s vs. the 9s and 10s — not Americans vs. Internationals. It just so happened that internationals were more likely to be a 9 or 10, since they came from the uber-elite of their country, whereas Americans were a bit more representative.

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  30. It is rare instance where you get huge dating between males and females very rare.

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  31. Rain and: the problem with your theory is that women are willing to let guys fuck around on them if they are into the guy enough. They complain, and exact various forms of revenge, but they’ll put it up with it. It’s a very cool-headed, somewhat unnatural thing for a woman to commit to a guy who is “beneath” her just because he’s more faithful. Sort of like a guy marrying a somewhat uglier woman than he could get just in order to get treated better by her.

    But obviously not all “alpha/alpha” pairings involve cheating. A lot of so-called “alpha” guys move through a player stage, get tired of it, and then decide to settle down.

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  32. rain and:
    Your male and female Alpha charts contradict each other. As you move up the ranks, the males get to be more promiscuous and the females get to be more monogamous, and yet you have them progressively paired up with people of the same rank.

    yes and no.
    it’s true that men and women have divergent mating goals, which would lead to the chart contradictions you noted, but as i explained in this post a true female 10 would be hot enough to not only inspire a male 10 to fuck her but to marry her as well.
    that is why in the male ranking chart, the male 10 is fucking around with a lot of women of putatively varying quality (although never so low that people wonder what he is thinking).

    For a similar reason, Alpha and Super Alpha women probably do better pairing with a man one to three ranks below them.

    if they did that, they would not be super alpha women. for instance, a 9 female would lose a fraction of a point if she was incapable of locking in a 9 male.
    this makes sense since a woman’s personality, femininity and nurturing instinct DO play a small role in her overall attractiveness, especially for long term evaluation.

    Meaning Greater Beta/Lesser Alpha men are more likely to pair up monogamously with Alpha/Super Alpha females (and not fuck around),

    women commit up as well as date up, though i do agree that she will likely marry a guy who is a bit lower in rank than the best guy she ever fucked.
    that is because committing up is more difficult than dating up.
    again, if a women cannot lock in a guy who is her equal or better it will negatively impact her total rank.
    but not by much since her looks account for 95% of her sexual market value.

    while A/SA men are more likely to pair off with B/GB/LA women (and fuck around with everybody).

    this is not likely. it’s tougher to extract commitment from men so when a man does decide to settle down he is going to make sure the girl he chooses to invest his fidelity in is the best quality he can get. that will mean a girl who is his sexual equal or better.

    mq:
    [rain and], the problem with your theory is that women are willing to let guys fuck around on them if they are into the guy enough.

    precisely.
    a female 10 will look the other way at her male 10’s dalliances as long as he puts some minimum effort into their marriage.
    which brings up an interesting point.
    a woman “locking down” a man does not necessarily mean she has locked him down sexually. it means she has locked him down emotionally.
    this difference is critical.
    for men, sexual fidelity matters more.
    for women, it’s emotional fidelity.

    It’s a very cool-headed, somewhat unnatural thing for a woman to commit to a guy who is “beneath” her just because he’s more faithful.

    again, correct.
    a woman would rather be with a cheating alpha than a faithful but spineless beta.
    within bounds of course.
    an alpha who cheats regularly will eventually wear the patience of even the most kept woman.

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  33. All good observations and well thought-out, but you mention the fact that “women date up” so blithely and casually, almost as if it were an irrelevant afterthought.

    If women date up, then it’s not just “prettiness” that engenders a sense of entitlement, it’s also plainness. Especially in places like cities (and environs), something I noticed to a nauseating degree when I lived there for 8 years.

    Why should men put up with this shit?

    I hasten to add that to say “women date up” is to myopically view the world, and intergender relations, through the constricted prism of places like DC, where women seem to control every aspect of the dating scene, and call virtually all the shots (except in the case of ultra-alpha males).

    If you go to other places like Las Vegas, where I live, or especially if you go outside the US, to places like the UK, and most of continental Europe to varying degrees, and especially Russia, Ukraine, etc., you’ll definitely find that men are calling the shots, and have their pick of women.

    In those places, you’ll find that it’s the men who are, by and large, “dating up”.

    I would rather go celibate and jerk off for a year than compromise by dating a few notches below my tastes.

    Although I’m essentially a beta when it comes to women, I was raised by an extreme alpha father, and tried my best to mirror him in both thinking and outcomes, and therefore I have some alpha traits strongly ingrained in me.

    I’m a high achiever and make a high salary. I’m bucks up and I don’t compromise just because I’m horny.

    Yes, I’ve gone through many a dry spell, but I’d rather sit on the bench and wait it out until I get lucky with a 9, than prostitute myself all over the place with desperate 5’s and 6’s just because I’m a guy and feel the urge to rut.

    I feel myself PRIVILEGED that I have a mixture of male and female traits. I am not ashamed to say that although I’m a 100% hetero guy, I am very much in touch with my female side, and I consider that an advantage because it gives me the power that women traditionally have to be discriminating.

    This kind of ability to “wait it out” and be selective leaves you better off in the end, because you don’t end up fucking the first girl who smiles at you and getting her pregnant, having a kid and then marrying her, and then having your life PERMANENTLY screwed up.

    Guys should NOT compromise.

    NEVER date or screw a woman more than 1 “quality point” below your standards!

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  34. on September 17, 2008 at 2:08 pm nearlynormalized

    To me an Alpha female is the “DYKE” who can do it all…Found her, me.

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  35. Seems clear that a couple’s social status is determined by the beauty of the woman.

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  36. Isn’t a female “7” that locks down a male “8” technically an 8, too? If a woman’s rank is defined by the rank of the highest quality suitor she can lock down, then it stands to reason that she assumes the rank of that suitor, no?

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  37. This all seems very circular. A woman’s rank is objective, but yet it also depends on the quality of man that will commit to her. I do agree that a woman’s rank is objective, however, I think that her beauty ranking stands completely independent of the quality of the man she can extract commitment from.

    For example, a 24 year-old “8” will likely be able to extract commitment from higher quality men than a 34-year old “8.” Likewise, a chaste “8” and a promiscuous “8” will have completely different results with the opposite sex. But just because an “8” is 34 or she’s slutty does not negate the fact that she’s hot.

    Perhaps you feel that your formula accounts for this, but it must do so implicitly rather than explicitly. You say it’s looks + feminine personality + sexual adventurism + smarts. I agree with that equation for the most part, but I thinlk age and chastity/promiscuity are two big omissions from the formula.

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  38. One last thing…I know a lot of guys who bang 8s and 9s, but yet they go as low as 6s and 7s for girlfriends. In fact, I think most guys do this. It’s hard to find all of the qualities you want (loyalty, caring, smarts) in a girl above a 7. So, in essence, you have male 9s (b/c they can bang 9s and get commitment from those women if they so wanted) committing to 7s. In your view, does that raise the girl’s ranking up from a 7 to a 9?

    Would Roger Federer’s wife (Mirka) be a 10?

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