What Happens When You Give A Woman Testosterone

Russian female pole vaulter not only sets the world record but trash talks her foes into submission.

BEIJING, Aug 18 (Reuters) – Russia’s Olympic champion pole vaulter Yelena Isinbayeva said the world record she set on Monday had put U.S. rival Jennifer Stuczynski in her place over reported comments about going to “kick Russian butt”.

“She has never beaten me. She is talking too much. So I didn’t say anything. I just wanted to prove who is the best,” Isinbayeva, who won the gold medal while Stuczynski had to settle for silver, told reporters.

“I am not deaf. I can read interviews and hear what is being talked about. It made me really angry because I said, ‘How is it possible to speak like this about me?’

“When I found out, it wasn’t nice first of all because she must respect me and know her position. Now she knows it.”

Isinbayeva set the world record by soaring 5.05 metres, while Stuczynski’s best effort was 4.80 metres. Russian Svetlana Feofanova took the bronze with a best jump of 4.75 metres.

cellulite free since 1982.

cellulite free since 1982.

(This chick’s buttocks swallows pole vaults whole and spits out toothpicks.)

It doesn’t matter whether the testosterone is injected or naturally raised through scientifically calibrated diet and hours in the gym pumping iron, women become more like men when they start competing for real. They get nastier, they get harder, their tits shrink, their babyfat disappears, and their attitude is all up in your grill. Most of them even begin to look like men (Yelena, dear sweet Russian Tatar babe who happens to look like one of my exes, is a notably good-looking exception among the female Olympic athletes).

The masculinization of women is inevitable at the upper levels of competitive athletics where real glory and sponsorships are on the line, because the lifeblood — the high octane fuel — of competition that matters is testosterone, the very essence of manhood. For a woman to succeed in a physically competitive endeavor, she must become more like… a man. It is required.

(And for a man to succeed in a domestic endeavor, he must become more like a woman.)

What all those Title IX supporting lesbian feminists refuse to face up to is that female athletics, and especially the elite level of female athletics broadcast on TVs around the world, is not a celebration of womanhood, it’s a celebration of manhood!

But let’s face it, the goal of American/Scandinavian feminism has always been to morph women into men. The bullhorns of the feminist movement — disproportionately lesbian and ugly — have a pathological case of penis envy. I imagine if they could legislate enlarged clitorises, they would.

raise the bar. i'm going in.

raise the bar. i'm jumping her.

The kind of intramural or weekend warrioress female athletics where women exert half-assed effort and take frequent breaks to huddle together to gossip, is fine for keeping fit and cementing friendships. They will not risk chest hair growth. But watch out if your girlfriend or daughter tries out for Division I soccer, starts buying A cup sports bras, and comes home with huge bruises on her shins — she will look and act less like a real woman with each passing day unless you steer her into more feminine fitness routines, like yoga.

One of the first things I ask a girl I’m dating is if she played any team sports in high school or college. If she played soccer or field hockey *and* has dark forearm hair, I know that I will not have to wait long for sexytime. Most likely, she will want to spend a lot of time on top.

I would bang lovely Yelena with my 5.05 metre American pole.





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  1. I think ol’ Hef needs to capitalize on the situation. Soon…

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  2. You can tell she has extremely low body fat by observing the prominent veins in her arms (2nd photo).

    A look made popular by Angelina Jolie and anorexics around the world….

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-427683/Angelina-takes-battle-bulge-new-level.html

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  3. I imagine if they could legislate enlarged clitorises, they would.

    Well, actually, one of the side effects of steroid (i.e. testosterone) use in women are grotesquely enlarged clitorii. There are some reports of them reaching three inches in length.

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  4. on August 19, 2008 at 1:40 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    Is there a doctor in the house?

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  5. Hey, ever notice how Yelena Isinbayeva is much, much better looking and less… hulking than her American rival?

    Just sayin’.

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  6. If she played soccer or field hockey *and* has dark forearm hair, I know that I will not have to wait long for sexytime.

    Even better, if she has noticeable hair on her forearms she’s likely to have hair in a very tasty place. Yum!

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  7. on August 19, 2008 at 1:56 pm Pope Goaz D'Weezil

    Female pole vaulters ftw. They are often incredibly hot.

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  8. Coming in 2012 son….

    Don’t say I never gave you noffing

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  9. This post makes no sense. At best, the product of the Soviet central training regime for the Olympics were women that resembled Joe Weider. Everybody knew it then, everybody knows it now. Nobody in college dates the Div I soccer stars… they all date the cheerleaders (Roll Tide!). Pole Vaulters are a side-show. Nobody here in the south thinks that’s a real sport (or one that women should go near).

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  10. Sorry for being off-topic, but Roissy, you might be interested in this story.

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  11. http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment-eonline/20080818/b24261/

    In semi-related news……………………Phil Collins, the singer/drummer, has lost about one third of his 280 Million dollar fortune in his three divorces. He just had to pay out tens of millions to his last wife whom he was only married to for a few years.

    Her picture is in that article, and he should have known better (9’s dont fall in love oft with 3’s but I digress), but he still didn’t deserve to lose all of that dough. She sure as hell didn’t deserve to get that kind of money for only being married for a few years. 1 million would have been all I’d have given her, plus a thousand a month for any child. Thats it. Thats all she deserves.

    If you cant tell, these ridiculous divorce settlements really unnerve me. Ive got close to ten friends and aquaintences who have been “nailed” in court. One judge told one older pal of mine, while explaining the ridiculous settlement by which she got half his 401K, his house, tons of child support, he had to pay off her car (which he bought for her), that she (a female judge) didn’t care if he had to sleep on a park bench—-that all of the court’s financial demands would be met or he would be placed in jail for 11 months and 29 days—wrecking his career.

    And women wonder why men dont want to get married!!!!!!!

    Russia is within 10-15 years of “falling off a cliff” in fertility according to Spengler (a writer for the Asia Times) because the breeding age generation of young women is going to fall drastically. The gals between 18-39 in Russia need to get busy in a hurry in the bedroom if they don’t want that nation to become Islamic in their old age. They really have a problem over there, despite the recent uptick in their birthrate.

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  12. If he’s on his third divorce, I would consider the settlement a stupidity tax. I didn’t read the article, did he have a prenup?

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  13. Brandy,

    I have to agree with you on Collin’s “stupidity” on getting married without a prenup for the THIRD TIME if its legal to have one in England.

    He paid her 46 MILLION DOLLARS. That is just incredible. Collins has paid something like 80 million plus in his three divorces.

    ………and we wonder why men aren’t exactly excited to have more than one kid. They risk their financial lives in doing so. Who ever came up with these policies had destroying the birthrates of the west in mind as a GOAL. I dont see how anyone could conclude otherwise.

    I have read that some multimillionaire men are willing to pay women to have kids for them. I wonder if this will be a wave of the future” whereby really successful men will ensure that they can never be taken to the cleaners by paying two or three Eastern Euro babes about 500K a piece to wetbirth three or four kids for them, and then just have affairs or pre-nup marriages with trophy wives.
    In vitro fertilization costs thousands…………………but if present trends dont discontinue, I imagine you will see a great many female executives go down that road also, bearing children with no real fathers just to get to have one or two. We could end all of this of course, by ending these insane laws that no reasonable man will be willing to endure upon himself. A thousand a month should be the top limit for any child. One million should be the top for any “alimony”. That would settle that damned quick.

    Its sickening that a man who busts his ass to be successful finds himself basically a stooge and tool in his romantic life because of the ransom-money-legal package concocted by Marxists in the guise of “equality”. A successful business person is the kind of human whom we need to breed the most, not the least.

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  14. “Collins has paid something like 80 million plus in his three divorces.”

    Considering the music he has subjected us to over the years, it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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  15. You guys are so missing out on the sweetest poon of the Games – women’s shot put. Or should I say, women’s HAWT put.

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  16. When did women pole vaulters start competing in bikini bottoms? Now that’s a trend I gotta applaud …

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  17. As I commented to Mrs. FA “If they didn’t wear that, men wouldn’t watch.” Applies to pretty much all womens sports. No skin, no viewership.

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  18. Tatars are Muslims. I wonder if those pants are sharia-compliant?

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  19. “What all those Title IX supporting lesbian feminists refuse to face up to is that female athletics, and especially the elite level of female athletics broadcast on TVs around the world, is not a celebration of womanhood, it’s a celebration of manhood!”

    ahahahahaha! well put

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  20. Z 11
    “She sure as hell didn’t deserve to get that kind of money for only being married for a few years. 1 million would have been all I’d have given her, plus a thousand a month for any child. Thats it. Thats all she deserves.”

    I completely agree with you. Your amounts seem about right, as in being the upper bound of what the state should be able to compel by law. That should be the default (what happens without a pre-nup).

    The amazing thing is the degree to which men in the anglosphere don’t know about this stuff unless they’ve been divorced.

    F*cking outrageous divorce theft.

    “9’s dont fall in love oft with 3’s”.

    It’s a bad pic and yeah Phil Collins has gotten old but there’s no way he’s anything close to a 3. A few years ago he was a definite 10 – he’s a major rockstar for chissake or was. He’s now a has been. That’s the real problem, combined with too big an age gap.

    That and the fact that she can now marry some penniless stud or more likely not and live with or be with a succession of them, all funded by ex hubby under the coercion power of the feminist state.

    Of course part of the reason she married him was his money. She should get to enjoy that while she’s married to him. But when she decides to end being married to him, and end giving him what she gave him and what he wanted to marry her for,, why the hell should he have to keep giving to her in the form of a huge amount of wealth that will (or should) last her whole life in very rich style, when she’s no longer giving to him?

    She’s the one who decided to end it for crissakes. End it and become a major multimillionaire in her own right.

    It’s disgusting. Truly disgusting. As is compelled huge child support=alimony. Same question – why is he obligated forever when he gets married but she can call off what she had to offer anytime? Absolute robbery.

    It’s also disgusting how few American women care about the unfairness of this sort of thing, or even see it. Of course all too many of their lapdog beta boy feminist suckups oh so gallantly agree with them, the fools.

    Also I think I read that pre-nups aren’t enforced by courts in Britain much if at all. Here the do enforce them on property division pretty much but not on child support set at outrageous alimony rates at least for professional earning men on up, as set by feminists.

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  21. VK 8

    The pole vaulter you link is WAY hotter, you’re right. Probably means she has zero chance of winning.

    The girl you link to seems to me to have gone the maximum direction of incredible firming and muscle tone, without then going on A cups, chisseled look etc.

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  22. (Moved this from the reader Mailbag Post Comments)

    Hey Roissy,

    In your opinion, Is it possible to be A Beta with a really hard edge? I ask this because I think I may fit this category. I meet and talk to women in what I see as an assertive manner. I let them talk about themselves and I don’t tell my life story and I keep things general when I do talk about me. I give them my number and let them choose to call me if they want (99.9% times they do not call ). And I DO NOT go out my way to try and inmpress them. I have a cool “take or leave it” mentality when I introduce myself to these women. Despite all of that I think I’m Beta because I’m one of the few monogamy minded people left so I’m looking for one “good” one instead of a new wet hole to jump in every night. Not that the option is open to me because I simply don’t ATTRACT highly sexual women like that. See, Alphas have no incentive to settle down because of the constant ass being thrown at them and the callousness that comes from knowing the deceptive nature of many women (ex. something as shady as the woman calling a current boyfriend to tell him they love them right before they start giving the other dude a blowjob) . So once again, in your opinion, can a man be a Beta with a hardcore edge, in a quality monogamous relationship where he takes no shit from his Lady and conveys clearly through action that he will be respected or find a replacement? I think they can exist.

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  23. It’s also disgusting how few American women care about the unfairness of this sort of thing, or even see it. Of course all too many of their lapdog beta boy feminist suckups oh so gallantly agree with them, the fools.

    Pardon me, but the irony strikes me as a bit too much. The contrast between someone with millions and millions vs. someone who barely scrapes hardly seems to faze the present audience. The fact that people exploit others’ labor, that there is so much corruption and greed that went into these millions…

    Oh, that does not mean things aren’t broken and shouldn’t be fixed. Yes, I’d vote for “more fair” legislation concerning alimony and child support. I sympathize completely with the men, because I’m a stingy as hell bastard and would hate for someone to spend money I earned. But the way you all talk about this makes me think you have zero perspective on life itself.

    What is more “unfair,” that a lot of people can’t feed their families or even get clean drinking water, or that a tiny percentage of the Earth’s population get some of their millions taken away? It’s all a matter of perspective. I’ve seen real poverty since I grew up in a country with real poverty. I’m very thankful for the comfortable living I make today.

    Money is an illusion. I play online games, and I see how people go insane over game money. Real money is not too different. The real theft is lack of love.

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  24. Its sickening that a man who busts his ass to be successful finds himself basically a stooge and tool in his romantic life because of the ransom-money-legal package concocted by Marxists in the guise of “equality”.

    The argument of “equality” is just a smoke screen – I doubt even the people making it actually believe it.

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  25. Back to pole vaulting, let’s see some more of Alison Stokke, the high school hottie VK already linked to:

    http://partmule.com/blog16/2007/12/18/2007-sportsman-of-the-year-allison-stokke/

    Chicks with high T go so far as to phrase compliments as crypto-insults. The girl with the highest level I’ve seen used to say “Too bad ____” before something good. Like, “Too bad I appreciate you helping me for the test,” or to her bff “Too bad I love you.” She was a rare exception who looked fairly girly, but she was 15 to 17 when I knew her. And off course, she was a cheerleader.

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  26. part of me showing in front of Yelena…

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  27. on August 19, 2008 at 7:21 pm Gunslingergregi

    Yea the big millionaire guys make it to tv what about the guy who just has a million wich would be major accomplishment but then has it all taken away. My eyes are beyond open on womans compassion.

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  28. on August 19, 2008 at 7:22 pm Gunslingergregi

    Or yea the guy who lives poor and the ex lives better because she has dual income no bills that sort of thing. He just has to pay his rent no free house.

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  29. on August 19, 2008 at 9:38 pm Turkeybaster115

    Pole vaulter: she’s hawt! I hate it when american nationalism/cockness gets in the way of competition. Win first bitch, before you gloat

    Phil Collins: He asked for it! Its his 3rd marriage. He should have known better, than to go for: Stupid, fast, and young.

    Roissy’s anti-feminism: Guys give it a rest. There will always be the legacy of 70s domestic violence to counter argue anti-feminism. So what if they want to deball men? Its nothing new, Freud called it in the 1800’s. The real assholes are “alpha’s” that hit women in the first place.

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  30. Hope 23 —
    For crissakes Hope that’s ridiculous. You think those more pressing issues you oh so righteously pointed out, world hunger, clean drinking water and an unfair division of wealth just maybe get talked about just a little, and organized around? As in all the freaking time? And besides just which laws has America passed that require these results to exist? Feminist inspired divorce law reform in the late 80’s and early nineties sure as hell was passed (and other Anglo countries copied us) and is what caused what I’m talking about. Or are you going to tell me it’s a crime that we haven’t made the problems of the entire world our full socialized responsibility, as opposed to a worthy do good cause and focus for charitable energies?

    Funny how feminists didn’t let worry about your world hunger concerns stop them from campaigning for Title IX and particularly their inside job of how they got the government to write regs for it that are destroying large areas of 2nd tie male college athletics because essentially colleges have to spend as much money on women’s athletics even though far fewer women want to participate in them. But fundamental marriage laws that thorough screw men over these days and in a time of 50% divorce rate 70% initiated by women – that’s real back burner stuff for anyone with even an ounce of perspective, right Hope?

    Absolutely idiotic comment.

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  31. Turkeybaster115 – 29

    “Roissy’s anti-feminism: Guys give it a rest.”

    Put me down for almost all of it that I’ve seen so far. He could go considerably further in fact (and probably will). I really read this blog more for his social commentary including especially the sexual side (which is one very big side) of the dynamics between the sexes (thoughtcrime to have not said genders I know), than for his pick up anecdotes and advice, though I find them interesting as well. Actually it’s all tightly and intrinsically interrelated.

    I don’t completely admire Rossy’s rather manic and single minded focus on adding notches and pump and dump, as in I kinda hope he’ll move on, but I do admire his abilities and successes, and that he’s done quite a lot of it. So did I at one time or actually at several different times, though not as a studied PUA, never so good in bars (though some successes there), but a whole lot of numbers over all. But I really DO admire his really great and deep insight into what works sexual attraction wise for men and women. Cuts through so much not only feminist BS but also pre-feminist English gentleman / chivalric bs (which the feminists most definitely built upon where useful). I only partly knew what I was doing in other words. I knew that excessive good guying was death for example, and that sexual dominance was the true touchstone, and that showing leadership and displaying your edge and excellence (and in may case that I was going places) mattered a lot. But I DIDn’t fully understand the bad guy attraction or thought it more restricted to certain kinds of girls than it really is, and so on. Rossy really does make light bulbs go off on this stuff.

    I’d like it if he’d talk more about the ins and outs of eventually finding – and then maintaining – real love w/good and great sex in a marriage or different legal deal commitment equivalent. I realize he has less experience here but he’s had at least some, and I know he’s though about it a whole lot from a very interesting perspective.

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  32. Or are you going to tell me it’s a crime that we haven’t made the problems of the entire world our full socialized responsibility, as opposed to a worthy do good cause and focus for charitable energies?

    Did I say it’s a crime? No. I said it’s ironic to be using top 1% asset, incredibly rich men as examples of female unfairness toward men. If you cannot see the irony in that, well… alright.

    My comment is about the over-glorification of money and the lack of perspective itself, which is what led us into this mess in the first place. If selfishness, self-entitlement, greed and lust were not so prevalent in the culture, would the problems that you name still be happening to such a degree?

    This civilization is a house of cards, all stacked on top of each other. These “marriage problems” and “divorce theft” are merely what you get when you take away the bindings. Divorce is less stigmatized. Relationships are more fragile. Even if women were left with zero alimony and zero child support from their husbands, they would still continue to divorce in droves.

    The root cause is deeper than “it’s the law’s fault” or “it’s the feminists’ fault.” Take away the “unfair” laws, and you will still see the symptoms persist. Just look at how many people still smoke marijuana despite it being illegal.

    Heh. I even said in my post that had I the power, I would make it “fair” for the men who complain so vociferously here. Yet for all that, all I have to do is say “gee, but you sure overlook the unfairness of some guy being super rich” to have my comment be called “absolutely idiotic.”

    Yet more irony.

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  33. She has a very nice figure. I like her figure as much as I like Dara Torees.
    I think you will like women high jumpers too if you like them tall. Check out Amy Acuff(tp).
    One of the reasons I like looking at the Olympics is for inspiration on days I don’t feel like working out. I love to see women compete at the highest level, and I don’t understand why so many men feel threatened by this. Female wrestling,boxing,weighlifting etc… bring it on.

    Some men like the athletic look,some men like the twiggy look, some like larger women and some like very curvy women like Jlo and Beyonce.

    peter said:Even better, if she has noticeable hair on her forearms she’s likely to have hair in a very tasty place. Yum!

    Wow, Peter eats 🙂
    Some of the girly men here don’t. Real men eat or take a few licks.

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  34. @dougjnn-rock star or no rock star,Phil Collins was never a ten. I looked at a video of his from the 80’s and he was a 5-6 at best. A goodlooking man is still a goodlooking man. Soap operas tend feauture the best looking men in America.

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  35. on August 19, 2008 at 11:05 pm Gunslingergregi

    Wait till they make it equal though chic and the girls and guys compete to get on the same teams in boxing wrestling tennis golf. Notice woman go to play on the male golf side and its cute. See what happens when it is just one team truly equal does not treat men or woman different. Notice on the university shit how it is equal money for men and woman. They can remedy that easily by allowing woman to play on the football team. Alow men and woman to play all sports whoever is best makes the team no qoutas for how much percentage woman or men just whoever is best. Put this equality to the test for real. forget seperate but equal how bout just equal.

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  36. Ba1anced-thank God for men like you. I try to tell women that not all men cheat.

    hope said:I said it’s ironic to be using top 1% asset, incredibly rich men as examples of female unfairness toward men. If you cannot see the irony in that, well… alright.

    *pumps fist in agreement*

    We worship the rich in this country hope. They can do no wrong and are above reproach. They are the Gods and Darwins children blah blah blah.

    Two Questions:

    1. For what reasons would any of you divorce your wives?

    2. How is the polevaulter’s body any different from the chic in the white shorts from a few weeks ago?

    I think the pole vaulter is far from manly. How many men in this country have a lean body like the female pole vaulter pictured anyway. Excluding a few men like Peter, most men in this country have body’s that feel like a bag of dough, women do to but that goes without saying.

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  37. on August 19, 2008 at 11:13 pm Gunslingergregi

    Have you felt most men in this country chic?

    Sorry couldn;t help it lol

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  38. Gunslingergregi, I would not like to see women play contact sports with men on a large scale. I think most women are well aware of the fact that the average man has more brute strenght than the average woman. Men and women playing golf or tennis togeather is one thing, but football and rugby is a major no no.
    Some girls play football on peewee leagues as chidlren but the numbers get smaller as they grow older. A few girls even play football in high school.

    BTW- With the exception of ultra marthoning the top men usually beat the top women but…
    the top women can beat most men

    winner of 100 men’s meter sprint time 9.69

    Women’s winner 10.76- She can nail most men. She can even run faster than most of the men in the decathlon.

    Compare the times for the women’s 200 meter final to that of the male decathletes time in the 200. So imagine what elite females athletes can do to most men on the track or weight room.

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  39. Have you felt most men in this country chic?

    Sorry couldn;t help it lol

    It’s fine and I know I should not have generalized. I should said, those who I have seen.

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  40. on August 19, 2008 at 11:28 pm Gunslingergregi

    Yea I am saying I want to see the equality taken to the next level. Woman in infantry combat. A good woman boxer fighting a good male boxer same weight class. All that shit. I don’t want to hear equality anymore and see with my eyes different. I want there to be equality.

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  41. on August 19, 2008 at 11:32 pm Gunslingergregi

    As far as worshiping rich they should be worshipped they are better than you get it. They worked harder to get what they have. Rich are not worshipped in the states they are beaten down by average woman. Pathetic.

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  42. […] What Happens When You Give A Woman Testosterone Russian female pole vaulter not only sets the world record but trash talks her foes into submission. BEIJING, Aug 18 […] […]

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  43. on August 20, 2008 at 12:23 am Usually Lurking

    Even if women were left with zero alimony and zero child support from their husbands, they would still continue to divorce in droves.

    Hope, what you are implying is that if the divorce laws changed so that, I dunno, Women were MUCH less likely to get the kids, then, “no”, the divorce rates would not stay the same.

    And if some child-less former waitress/HR-Rep/Leasing-Agent/whatever KNEW that she would get in a divorce everything that she had when she entered the marriage, and nothing more, then, “no”, the divorce rates would not stay the same.

    More importantly, her choices in who to marry would probably be different to begin with.

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  44. 43: As far as worshiping rich they should be worshipped they are better than you get it.

    Oh, *please* tell me you’re joking. This belief is everything that’s wrong with the US right this very moment.

    They worked harder to get what they have.

    You seriously think that rich people work harder than poor people? You’re either joking or woefully out of touch.

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  45. I love to see women compete at the highest level, and I don’t understand why so many men feel threatened by this.

    This is a common canard anytime some guy doesn’t like some group of females — he’s “threatened” by them. They are *not attracted to* them, simple as that.

    Guys are not turned off by professional dancers, like ballerinas — in fact, they’re highly sought after and can punch well above their weight. They are highly competitive, in top physical shape, use their strength on the job, etc. etc. The difference is that they’re still feminine, whereas jocks tend to be very masculine.

    I know, some meathead is going to tell you that “real men” like getting taken with a strap-on by some quasi-female bodybuilder, but they’re wrong. Real men like women, not men.

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  46. agnostic- I have no problem with men who are not attracted to female jocks. We all have our type as I mentioned in an earlier comment. Many professional dancers have a body type that is similar to that of the pole vaulter.

    I know, some meathead is going to tell you that “real men” like getting taken with a strap-on by some quasi-female bodybuilder, but they’re wrong. Real men like women, not men.

    Some men do. Look at Alex Rodreiguez(tp). He likes buff women.

    Please give me your definition of a feminine so I can better understand what you are getting at .

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  47. Chic,

    Not all men cheat…………. just most (read:somewhere in the 90% I believe). Which means they’re cheating with SOMEBODY! Barring our buddies on the downlow, that means the Ladies are making a dayum good effort to keep up…if not surpassing us men in the free-fuck-for-all. There is no doubt the Pussy stock is at an all time low. A firesale of ass if you will. The catch is that you must have GAME as a man to participate in the Fuck-Frenzy. Tell them what they want to hear……..give them what they want to feel and your nuts will be emptied until the next round ;-). Robert Greene wrote in “The Art of Seduction” that to become a true seducer…you have to become Amoral (no morals)…..not to be confused with Immoral (poor or no morals). I have not reached that point…..YET ;-).

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  48. I think the pole vaulting gal is hot. Amazingly hot. Athletic women, and tall athletic women, are a huge draw for most men.

    Women’s Beach volleyball ratings tend to agree with me.

    Though one woman’s Beach Volleyballer was on Travel Channel, I was shocked. Just the head shot and voice, I thought she was a man. The sun was not kind, nor were the obvious roids she was taking.

    Roiding for women is NOT attractive. Dara Torres looks like a man, same for the Wiliams sisters (who look like they stepped off the backfield of the Kansas City Chiefs). While say, Maria Sharapova looks like a beauty, same for beautiful Amanda Beard, Katarina Witt, a number of others.

    If a woman has to roid to compete and win, she’ll look ugly. Her face will change, she’ll lose any softness or curves, she’ll change into a more feminine man rather than an athletic woman.

    Some swimmers are obviously roiding (Torres being one), others are not (Beard). Some countries have tiny little girls, age 12, pretending to be 16. Others have emaciated, ultra-distance women (and men for that matter) who look just terrible.

    It depends on the sport, and applies for men too. Some of the big fat Weightlifters would I imagine not be high on the attractiveness list for most women. Basketball players like Kobe Bryant would seem to have the most appealing male physique for women, while swimmers like Phelps would not (all torso, relatively short legs). I doubt many women find the male distance runners attractive, while the sprinters would be likely quite attractive. I would guess the male Gymnasts would simply be too short to appeal to most women. A fat but tall guy like Rulon Gardner might be a wash.

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  49. Basketball players like Kobe Bryant would seem to have the most appealing male physique for women, while swimmers like Phelps would not (all torso, relatively short legs). I doubt many women find the male distance runners attractive, while the sprinters would be likely quite attractive. I would guess the male Gymnasts would simply be too short to appeal to most women.

    Some time ago I read about a survey in which a representative sample of adult women were shown pictures of non-famous male athletes in a variety of sports and were asked to select which athletes’ bodies were the most attractive to them. Sprinters were the winners, by quite some margin.

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  50. on August 20, 2008 at 3:32 pm Turkeybaster115

    ATTN: dougjnn&ROISSY aka Women hating mekinddagays

    If you have daughters, and they get beat by their husbands, would you like the b.itches to just suck it up, and live with it, because their husbands are “Alphas”? Or would you like their husbands to not pay for the children they may have, after a divorce? guys go pay prostitutes and get laid. Please! So much time and energy is spent by you guys telling us how bad amerikan women are, but you haven’t given us any fezable solutions. Shut up Freud!

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  51. on August 20, 2008 at 7:28 pm Gunslingergregi

    Hell no the guy doesn’t need to pay for the kid if he doesn’t want to. I will take care of my grandchildren and daughter if the man she had a kid with would would decide to leave. If she can’t hold the dude and he doesn’t want to help with the kid he wouldn’t have to why the fuck would I want to deal or have my daughter deal with a guy she doesn’t want to be with or he doesn’t want to be with her for 18 years to life. My family will be responsible for my daughters kid just like the old days. On the beating thing if she didn’t mind I don’t mind. It is her husband so I would talk with the guy see whats up if she wanted me to. If my daughter is being a vicious bitch with her mouth then she prob needs to take a beating. I’ll try to explain to both of them how woman like to cause pain with their lips talking and how some guys will respond to that with their fists. If the dudes goes overboard with it I’ll beat the dudes ass with help if necessary to make him remember what a beating feels like and to remember she is a woman and to take it easy. Again though they will still be married so wtf. I like old school shit. Fuck the new age. Daughter and Son will be raised to stand by their mates through the fires of hell though and thats ok. Will probably help them in the long run. Of course I’ll hopefully be their to tell them how to succeed in life early and make certain decisions that will help them retire early to experience life in a different way together.

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  52. Ba1anced said: I have not reached that point…..YET ;-).

    Please don’t Balanced please don’t. I am terrified of men like Roissy and these other PUA guys. I really good at smelling BS and I don’t put out easily so I guess that has saved me.

    There is no doubt the Pussy stock is at an all time low. A firesale of ass if you will

    LOL, this is true. I just don’t get why so many women are so free with it, when they don’t enjoy most of their experiences. There was a post on the Jezebel blog about this, and there were a number of women who had big numbers(50+).

    Almost all of those women with big numbers said they enjoyed it with about 20- 35% of their partners. I think it’s better to stick with one of the guys who is good versus a constant switch of partners. I guess I am just too afraid of disease, and unplanned pregnancy to take such risks with my body.

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  53. on August 20, 2008 at 9:33 pm Gunslingergregi

    46 Anonymous
    “43: As far as worshiping rich they should be worshipped they are better than you get it.

    Oh, *please* tell me you’re joking. This belief is everything that’s wrong with the US right this very moment.

    They worked harder to get what they have.

    You seriously think that rich people work harder than poor people? You’re either joking or woefully out of touch.”

    Yea How did they become rich? The person who becomes rich through their work has to work harder than the poor people or their peers. That person has to save and not just spend all the money they make. They have to work harder to get more money to be able to save more. Yea the poor person might work hard but they could be working 84 hours a week and saving some and become rich. They are poor most of the time through choice at this point in America unless they where divorced and had to start over.

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  54. @Whiskey- I noticed that many of the Ethopian and Kenyan women had very gaunt looking faces. I was very shocked to read that they are the same age as myself and younger.

    The sun was not kind, nor were the obvious roids she was taking.

    You are talking about Misty May, and I can’t understand a woman who plays beach volleyball needs steroids.

    Bridgitte FOSTER-HYLTON, is a 34 year old Jamican sprinter hurdler and I seriously doubt if she is juicing. She is very feminie looking and is still ranked at the top among those who compete in her event.

    Torres may be roiding, which I don’t want to believe, but she does not look like a man. You know that pic of her defined body was digitally enhanced to make her six pack stand out.

    Elite women can compete at the highest level far longer than elite men in a number of sports.

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  55. Gregi- Good point on the rich. If you cannot get rich in America it is because you are unwilling to work for it. I started in the tobacco fields at age 13. Army paid for college. Went to community college after regular college while working full time. I am not rich now but I will be. All while sending three kids to college. God I love this country!!!
    As for the hit a girl thing… I have a sister. Baseball bat or .44 cal, depending on the offense.

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  56. 56: Yea How did they become rich? The person who becomes rich through their work has to work harder than the poor people or their peers. That person has to save and not just spend all the money they make. They have to work harder to get more money to be able to save more. Yea the poor person might work hard but they could be working 84 hours a week and saving some and become rich. They are poor most of the time through choice at this point in America unless they where divorced and had to start over.

    So the answer is b) you’re woefully out of touch.

    Dude, you have to be making more than enough to live on to even *begin* saving! Do you have any idea how many people are working multiple minimum wage jobs just to make ends meet, with no overage? I mean real people, not well-to-do white collar guys who’ve been cosseted since college and end up fleeced by some hott chick because they don’t have the sense that god gave a goose.

    And working amongst what you’d consider “rich” people, I’ve observed first-hand that they are the laziest, most entitled motherfuckers on the planet. The richer, the lazier, because the more money they have working for them (with no effort on their part,) the less work they themselves do, or feel obligated to do.

    The belief that honest hard work & a can-do attitude will make you rich became a myth a couple of generations ago.

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  57. Whiskey saidIt depends on the sport, and applies for men too. Some of the big fat Weightlifters would I imagine not be high on the attractiveness list for most women. Basketball players like Kobe Bryant would seem to have the most appealing male physique for women, while swimmers like Phelps would not (all torso, relatively short legs). I doubt many women find the male distance runners attractive, while the sprinters would be likely quite attractive. I would guess the male Gymnasts would simply be too short to appeal to most women. A fat but tall guy like Rulon Gardner might be a wash

    Virgilijus Alekna competes in the discus competition. He is 6’7 and 287lbs. He looks like one of the guys from the strong man competitions. He has a very muscular body with a layer of fat that conceals his veins but still shows muscle definition. For some reason I find him attractive. I get a tingle when I look at him, maybe it’s because he has that square manly jaw. I read a very popular study once about how women prefer the stronger manly looking men for mating and the more feminine looking men for long-term relationships. I doubt if I would ever date a discuss thrower or shot putter looking guy though. While they are manly looking, I also find them freighting.

    Basketball players are just to tall& thin for my tastes. I am tall but I usually don’t like ultra tall thin men. Like you mentioned, most of the gymnasts are very short but I find that short have some attractive qualities (again that study). Michael Phelps has a very lean and defined body. I like the lean, muscular, and defined look that Phelps, Jason Lezak, and Cullen Jones all have.

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  58. on August 20, 2008 at 10:10 pm Gunslingergregi

    Anon if you want to be rich and you didn’t then just take that as a personal failure. You are out of touch with the redistrobution of wealth. If you can avoid that you can be rich.

    The myth is happening to a lot of guys who have worked very hard to get where they are and then at 45 or 50 or earlier they get divorced or they owe child support and it fucks them up.
    The child support alone proves that you can get rich if you want to. Becuase if a guy went without the kids and saved the same money “the money that he would give for child support and supporting his wifes lifestyle” to his own bank he would get rich over time. Not saying one year get rich. If it takes someone from 28 to 38 though not that big of a sacrifice is it.

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  59. on August 20, 2008 at 10:14 pm Gunslingergregi

    Cool former alpha so you know what I am talking about. I just thought at an early age it was not worth the work to get rich. I am finding out it can be in certain areas. And we are not talking buying everything you want now. Anyone you see that looks like they are living rich with cars and house and clothes and shopping. If they ain’t making big dollars they ain’t saving money.

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  60. @Whiskey-Sprinters are attractive but distance runners are often to thin and gaunt.

    I noticed that a lot of the sprinters at this olympics are a lot thinner than they used to be in 96&2000 Olympics. Usain Bolt looks to be only about 20 pounds heaver than the Keanyian long distance runners.

    Micheal Johnson, Donavon Bailey, Maurice Green, Ato Bolton,Dennis Mitchell and Linford Christie had the type of Sprinter bodies which I found very attractive.

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  61. I want to know what type of bodies most of the male commenters here find attractive. Please list three famous women who have the type of body you are most attracted to from the neck down.

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  62. on August 20, 2008 at 10:20 pm Gunslingergregi

    My buddy pays 800 a month in Child Support and insurance for his kid. He worked as a mechanic when this was imposed on him.
    Peep game on what the government can make someone do and also what the government can take away from someone. Also look at what a woman feels she is entitled to.

    To get rich you just have to have the balls to make yourself do the same thing except not to “care” for some kid that you never see but to secure your future.

    Income per Month Income Per Year YEARS Starting Money Average Interest Total
    48 576 YEAR 1 9,600 0.06 9,600
    102 1,221 YEAR 2 9,600 0.06 20,352
    159 1,905 YEAR 3 9,600 0.06 31,749
    219 2,630 YEAR 4 9,600 0.06 43,830
    283 3,398 YEAR 5 9,600 0.06 56,636
    351 4,213 YEAR 6 9,600 0.06 70,210
    423 5,076 YEAR 7 9,600 0.06 84,599
    499 5,991 YEAR 8 9,600 0.06 99,851
    580 6,961 YEAR 9 9,600 0.06 116,018
    666 7,989 YEAR 10 9,600 0.06 133,155
    757 9,079 YEAR 11 9,600 0.06 151,320
    853 10,235 YEAR 12 9,600 0.06 170,575
    955 11,459 YEAR 13 9,600 0.06 190,986
    1,063 12,757 YEAR 14 9,600 0.06 212,621
    1,178 14,133 YEAR 15 9,600 0.06 235,554
    1,299 15,592 YEAR 16 9,600 0.06 259,863
    1,428 17,138 YEAR 17 9,600 0.06 285,631
    1,565 18,777 YEAR 18 9,600 0.06 312,945

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  63. on August 20, 2008 at 10:26 pm Gunslingergregi

    That was at 6 percent interest lets bust it up to 9 percent.
    72 864 YEAR 1 9,600 0.09 9,600
    157 1,884 YEAR 2 9,600 0.09 20,928
    250 2,995 YEAR 3 9,600 0.09 33,276
    351 4,206 YEAR 4 9,600 0.09 46,734
    461 5,526 YEAR 5 9,600 0.09 61,404
    580 6,966 YEAR 6 9,600 0.09 77,395
    711 8,534 YEAR 7 9,600 0.09 94,824
    854 10,244 YEAR 8 9,600 0.09 113,823
    1,009 12,108 YEAR 9 9,600 0.09 134,531
    1,178 14,139 YEAR 10 9,600 0.09 157,102
    1,363 16,353 YEAR 11 9,600 0.09 181,706
    1,564 18,767 YEAR 12 9,600 0.09 208,523
    1,783 21,398 YEAR 13 9,600 0.09 237,754
    2,022 24,265 YEAR 14 9,600 0.09 269,616
    2,283 27,391 YEAR 15 9,600 0.09 304,345
    2,567 30,798 YEAR 16 9,600 0.09 342,200
    2,876 34,512 YEAR 17 9,600 0.09 383,463
    3,213 38,559 YEAR 18 9,600 0.09 428,438

    Ok yea making 38,559 a year without having to do shit I would consider rich.

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  64. on August 20, 2008 at 10:31 pm Gunslingergregi

    Wow proven reason why child support is so enforced another layer of protection to keep people from accidently getting rich and that includes the dumbass woman who use the system too. They could do waaaaay better sticking with a man and saving money and not encouraging him to get the biggest house they could afford. Divide and conquer peep the results. Man and woman both better off not splitting up and saving money then divorcing and then trying to both support two households. The money spent could be used toward the future where they could both live much better.

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  65. on August 20, 2008 at 10:39 pm Gunslingergregi

    I still say this is the ideal one person 24k a year family lives on that one 24k a year and save it. get to be millionaires woo hooo 8k a month.

    180 2,160 YEAR 1 24,000 0.09 24,000
    392 4,709 YEAR 2 24,000 0.09 52,320
    624 7,487 YEAR 3 24,000 0.09 83,189
    876 10,515 YEAR 4 24,000 0.09 116,836
    1,151 13,816 YEAR 5 24,000 0.09 153,511
    1,451 17,414 YEAR 6 24,000 0.09 193,487
    1,778 21,335 YEAR 7 24,000 0.09 237,061
    2,134 25,610 YEAR 8 24,000 0.09 284,556
    2,522 30,269 YEAR 9 24,000 0.09 336,326
    2,946 35,348 YEAR 10 24,000 0.09 392,756
    3,407 40,884 YEAR 11 24,000 0.09 454,264
    3,910 46,918 YEAR 12 24,000 0.09 521,308
    4,458 53,495 YEAR 13 24,000 0.09 594,385
    5,055 60,664 YEAR 14 24,000 0.09 674,040
    5,706 68,478 YEAR 15 24,000 0.09 760,863
    6,416 76,995 YEAR 16 24,000 0.09 855,501
    7,190 86,279 YEAR 17 24,000 0.09 958,656
    8,033 96,399 YEAR 18 24,000 0.09 1,071,095

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  66. So are athletic females, or females who have been made at least slightly masculine by a lot of athletic training, more likely to have sex and think like a man when it comes to sex. That is, are they more likely to fuck without worrying about the emotional crap or be more prone to fuck casually?

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  67. 67: And how do you factor in variables like health insurance? If it’s not provided by an employer, it’s going to take quite a bite out of a poor person’s income. (The annual poverty threshold, according to Wikipedia, is $10,400 for one person and $14,000 for two, $21,200 for a family of four.)

    And how about when the unexpected happens? Unforeseen illness, car accident? A short stay in hospital will take all your savings, put you back down to zero *and* in debt.

    It’s very simple on paper, free of variables, but real life is more than a calculation.

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  68. anonymous- You hit it on the nose^^^. Paying for health insurance for a family of three is no joke. It’s about 1500 a night for a hospitol bed.

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  69. I don’t care how much she trash talks, I’d bang that Russian bitch senseless.

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  70. on August 21, 2008 at 2:41 pm Usually Lurking

    …not well-to-do white collar guys who’ve been cosseted since college and end up fleeced by some hott chick because they don’t have the sense that god gave a goose.

    It has only been recently that guys have been “allowed” to not get married. Obviously, no one was forced to get married, but polite society still expected you to tie the knot if you were with some girl long enough. I am not saying that these guys were particularly smart to begin with, but, that does not mean that they deserved to get raped in family/divorce court.

    Nowadays, more and more guys feel comfortable saying, and meaning, that they never will get married. I am certain that many of those guys will still get married anyway, but, at least they can say it.

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  71. on August 21, 2008 at 6:06 pm Gunslingergregi

    Why joining the army was the smart move for me at 21. Health insurance covered for family no copays. Made 2k clear a month after taxes. If the exwife would have worked would have been perfect system to be in. She did not and we lived on my income alone. If she would have been with the program I could have been chilling right now at 32. Oh well. Yea things get in the way when you let them. Or yea I had to pay loot for an operation. It is able to be moved past though.
    Anon,
    You actually sound like my exwifes mom whose whole family knew my goal to be rich before I married their daughter. The mom said well things will happen like a washing machine breaking down or whatever. So yea I guess my ex had to prove her mom right so we didn’t get rich. Of course if you think you can’t get rich you won’t. The fact is you can with the right person just not a woman born to be a worker all her life but only if she doesn’t get ahead by working.

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  72. speaking of testosterone and women and all of that, here’s an interesting article where the author talks about how the feminist movement has tried to whitewash the research he and other scholars have done regarding women’s athletics and the biological differences between men and women. you know feminism has REALLY gone over the cliff when they’re refusing to concede that women are physically less powerful than men are. feminists actually try to ascribe the reasons that women’s world record times in events such as sprints being roughly equivalent to the times of the best 14-15 year old boys as being due to UPBRINGING. they make arguments such as “girls are groomed to start acting like ladies at that age while boys are encouraged to pursue athletics, which is why we see such discrepancies in athletic achievements between the sexes.” I’m not making this up. check out the article:

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODlmNmJhM2JhMGZmOWQxOTMzMGE1YWFmMzkzZDNlODM=

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  73. on August 25, 2008 at 6:03 pm Usually Lurking

    Bill, you find a similar thing in Tennis. The most well known male-female match was between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs. And we all know that story and about the massive age difference.

    Well, many years later Jimmy Connors played Martina Navratilova and crushed her ( the score looks closer than it really was. The rules were rigged so that the younger Navratilova would have a fighting chance.).

    But there is actually an even better story. When Chris Evert was the best female player in the world she admitted that she still could not beat her brother, who never played professionally. He was good enough to be her hitting partner (and beat her every time), but never play at a higher level.

    This is not misogyny. This is basic reality.

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  74. Wow, most of the men on here are complete bitches. Firslty, women don’t do sports to impress men, to the few who attempted to point that out. Second, women are just as good as men are when it comes to sports. But I know some of your little male ego’s refuse to see it. Third, how about paying attention to the way they play, and NOT what the fuck they are wearing or look like? I sware, some of you can’t be older than 12.

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  75. on June 15, 2009 at 1:16 pm The Masculinization Of The Western White Female « Roissy in DC

    […] Gender bending chemical sabotage is altering the sexual landscape. High carb, low fat diets are making women more masculine and the […]

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  76. This is the most vile sexist article i have ever read. Why the fuck are men so stupid. Why the fuck should a woman spend her life as a pile of fat. I hate men like you, get it in your thick head, what women do with there lives has nothing to do with you, who are you to say what a woman should look like or act like.

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  77. @lindsey- you must be new around here. Expect plenty more of that.

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  78. Lindsey

    Ah, just hold still for a second and be quiet. Brace yourself. It wont hurt if yu are relaxed.

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