Alpha Or Beta?

Commenter Ba1anced left a link to a video of an Indian game show. Check out all the betas stampeding to protect this woman’s “honor” after she rightfully gets slapped in return for slapping one of the contestants. And watch how she lingers around expecting massive beta mobilization on her behalf.

I’m with Sean Connery on this matter. A woman needs an occasional slap when she gets out of line to remind her of the real man she fell in love with. If a woman slapped me I would grind a half grapefruit into her face.

Verdict:

Alpha = contestant.

Beta = the entire production crew.





Comments


  1. I dunno man.

    I first saw this video a couple days ago and had to giggle. I don’t think an Alpha would scream and moan like he did. If you watch in the background, the guy in the vest and jeans gives the guy a pretty good ass whooping as well. the dudes hitting him when he’s on the ground are lame tho.

    i bet that slap that he gave that girl hurt. he had hip rotation and feet planting and everything. he didnt seem to do to well against a man tho.

    she deserved it tho.

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  2. The woman is the anchor of the show, so the crew coming to her defense, so it’s not all betatude.

    Gotta love his smirk, immediately preceding the slap. He shouldn’t have walked towards her after slapping her. The dude who first touches the slappin’ man, pushes him, instead of trying to restrain him, as if he were trying to win the woman’s favor, ‘avenging’ her.

    God, some women think both they can slap a man without repercussion, because a man hitting a woman is forbidden.

    I punched a girl on the shoulder once, after she slapped or punched me, can’t remember. I was with a bunch of beta guys, who the girl and I were friends with, and the guys, extreme virgins all, proceeded to give me huge shit about touching her. They refused to recognize that she was just a whiny ass bitch (with a voice like Fran Drescher of the Nanny). Inexperience -> revering the pussy.

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  3. Wow, such a shame, that guys would harm other guys just to win the approval and validation of a girl.

    When are guys going to stop doing that to each other? I guess sexual economy is exactly what it is…….an “economy”, where every guy looks out for himself, doing what’s best for himself short-term, and not acknowledge the fact that if we all take a stand, women will be less bitchy.

    But I guess ideals will be ideals.

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  4. Would an Alpha really repeatedly yell “How can she slap”? I remain unconvinced of his Alpha-ness, although I agree that the smirk was a definite sign in his favor.

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  5. on September 10, 2008 at 3:10 pm Patrick Bateman

    Any woman who raises her hand against a man deserves the same in return. A woman can call me all the dirty names she wants and I won’t raise a hand against her, but once she slaps me she’s going to get the pimp hand.

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  6. on September 10, 2008 at 3:13 pm Patrick Bateman

    @juggler

    You have to understand that English is not his first language and cursing is far less common in other cultures.

    Translating what he said into typical American language

    “How can she slap” = “That bitch had it coming, she slapped me first”

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  7. Bitch COMPLETELY deserved it. I can’t fucking stand women that abuse the whole “oh he won’t hit me” bullshit. If a women is willing to strike a man, she deserves every bit of retaliation warranted by her actions.

    KICK A BITCH

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  8. Oh, and this reminds of how fucking lame men can be. Every one of those men should have sat there and let her handle the mess she created.

    Much like when a guy goes after another guy that just fucked his girlfriend, this type of behavior is completely typical of a pussy ass beta. Get a fucking clue…

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  9. Alpha = crying like a girl when you get beat up, because you can’t actually fight (only slap women)?

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  10. on September 10, 2008 at 5:09 pm Pope Goaz D'Weezil

    That is really fucking hot.

    If a woman is truly pissed (because I deflowered her underage cock hungry sister, for example), then she gets one slap on me. Anything after that, and I’m restraining the bitch with whatever it takes. However, if she is just slapping me and does not have a good reason, then it’s on.

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  11. on September 10, 2008 at 5:12 pm Marcus Halberstam

    I never hit a lady, but bitches are fair game.

    Mikkel, the guy got jumped by far too many men to be able to fight back.

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  12. on September 10, 2008 at 5:53 pm Patrick Bateman

    Marcus

    I’m glad to see other characters from American Psycho have discovered this blog.

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  13. Reminds me of a favorite scene from Way of the Gun. Guy with loudmouth gf (who spouts funny insults like “baby fucker”)
    says to guy “You ready to do the man dance?” and throws up his dukes. Guy punches girl in the face.

    Slapping without retaliation is from a time when gender differences were widely accepted and society based around them. Women were not empowered and had few recourses open to them. Slaps were the one thing they had.

    Today, that shit is GONE. Any woman that thinks she can live in a world of equality except when it is in her favor is in for a return slap. There is no sense to the idea that women are allowed violence without receiving in kind. Regardless of relative strength, blame always lies with the one who crosses the line and turns an altercation physical.

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  14. As TV taught us, give me a smack–and I’ll smack you back. Dude lost a few man points for whining. It’s India, yo–everybody rolls 100 deep, so you know there’s going to a bunch of guys “protecting” this chick.

    Deal with it. Rock and roll.

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  15. Ha! I wonder if anyone else gets the “Rock and Roll” reference? So this site has both the American Psycho Bateman and the Rules of Attraction Bateman. I love it.

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  16. I’m glad to see other characters from American Psycho have discovered this blog.

    Lots of Ellis love here apparently.

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  17. on September 10, 2008 at 6:53 pm Marcus Halberstam

    Animus,

    Slapping without retaliation is from a time when gender differences were widely accepted and society based around them. Women were not empowered and had few recourses open to them. Slaps were the one thing they had.

    Even then, a slap was only justified when the man had done something to deserve it. I firmly believe there are non-physical transgressions that can justify physical responses. A man can easily do things to a woman which justifies her slapping the shit out of him, even if he never lays a hand on her.

    Slaps like we just witnessed are not real physical harm; more of a social statement than anything else. To me, this slap said “you are my bitch, so act like it” and was responded to with a “I don’t think so”.

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  18. Sometimes I talk about the “English Gentleman” programming which preceding feminism and upon which feminism was grounded in he Anglosphere — after gulping in huge volumes of “cultural” marxism and becoming it’s wonderful self. This vid is a good example of what I mean.

    I’m going to confess something. When I saw this vid in the comments I almost commented, and said good for him. Gutsy guy. And aren’t that mob of defenders, who, you’ll note, swell A LOT when it’s clear that he’s being beaten on not just being rushed off the stage. The betas get a signal that the “slap back man” has really transgressed just like they thought, and they’re ALL up for showing their “manly” support for the “poor defenseless woman”. But I sorta chickened out. Not chickened out really, I just knew I’d get into a comments war, and didn’t feel like it at the time. At another time I would have.

    Now don’t get me wrong. There is a very good place for a code of honor which men should follow in shielding a woman in a one to one from the full force of the yawning discrepancy of male coercive power over female, which is even more than usually reliable in “romantic” pairings (sexual attraction rarely runs to a man who is clearly less physically powerful than she). Besides even when men and women are almost the same size men with any male are just tougher and better fighters they go at it, though always exceptions. Women should never get beaten up by men. And so on and so forth. So let’s keep the code since we need one and it’s the one we got. But not take it to extremes. Think greek golden mean guys always, that no principle taken to it’s extreme is every the best way. Balance. And adapt this chivalrous restraint on the potential of male coercive power over female to the changed landscape that quasi marxist feminism has brought. Instead of completely emasculating ourselves every time the word “misogyny” is uttered to cause or immediate denying retreat.

    It’s just that this modern chivalry in the face of feminist cultural and legal emasculation (sexual harassment law, domestic relations law, family law) has been taken to ridiculous extremes, particularly in our changed circumstances. It was based on the notion that men had all the real power when that was more true than not*, but that BOTH men and women were happiest in close relations particularly at royal courts and in noble households (who cared elsewhere) when women flew free as beautiful birds, secure that they could flirt or taunt or even throw temper tantrums to a point without fear of physical reprisal.

    [* but never as true as feminists say, particularly because in social and domestic life, where people spend much or most of their time, women often did lead direct and prevail]

    At it’s origins full bore chivalric courtesy towards ladies was only applied to unattainable ladies many social steps above the knight in question, as his form of gift giving, since he could not otherwise compete with those at her station. Now it’s every woman’s due from every man no matter what she does or how far from any lady-like code she herself feels entitled to act.

    The sad fact is that if you return your wife or domestic partner’s slap in a dispute at home or maybe outside and she takes it to 011, you may very well be guilty before proven innocent and have a restraining order slapped on you. In theory perhaps if you do absolutely no more than she did in return and esp. in self defense, you will be all right but the system is heavily predisposed to see not a calm male restoring order and dignity but an enraged out of control brute on the edge of going murderous, if not this time, next, if he isn’t gelded. The hearing may be some time down the road. Meanwhile, if you live together, you’re forced to move out and she isn’t. (And no this hasn’t happened to me, but yes it REALLY happens. All the time. Basically the initial judge here is the couple of cops and in many places like NYC and many others there’s huge career pressure on them to not let too many of these cases slide, because there’s a feminist indoctrinated by never proven “certatude about how often men commit domestic violence (women’s is ignored as just a piffle as men’s used to be if it was, well, just a piffle like a slap or “I’ll kill f*king kill you bitch” etc.).

    I believe much of this was forced on localities by the “Violence Against Women Act”. Only place in American law I know where you’re guilty until proven innocent.

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  19. I know it’s India. You do know about the Raj right?

    It may not have extended far into the conscious of rural Indian piss poor villages, but that is not the part of India we’re viewing here, is it?

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  20. I would also like to say that most of the time I WOULD NOT return a woman’s slap. I’d just fix her with my eyes, stone like.

    This particular situation, with it’s power balance, is another matter.

    There can also be those of the sort Sean Connery, that pinnacle of alpha male charisma, spoke of. And others.

    The point is women should feel the man always COULD use it. He just isn’t. Because he’s strong. Rather than isn’t because he’s been emasculated. By all those last thirty years cultural conditionings and wonderful femi-stalinist laws.

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  21. in my experience, a slap across the face from a woman more often than not evinces hidden desire. it’s kino (physical contact), after all – and it’s absolutely dripping with emotional arousal.

    as a lot of the pua’s on here undoubtedly know, it’s surprisingly easy to convert one type of female emotional arousal (anger) into another (fuck me … NOW), provided that at least a minimum of physical attraction is present.
    and if a woman actually goes to the effort of slapping you, you can be fairly sure that this minimum of attraction is present. truly disgusted women almost always move noticeably away from the source of their mental nausea.

    i mean, jesus, haven’t any of you guys had a feisty drama queen girlfriend? the best way to turn them on – not to mention the best way to ensure that they’ll bring The Feisty in bed – is to piss them off. it is what it is.

    so:
    if i get slapped, i agree with pope d’weezil that “it’s on” – but by “it’s on”, i mean “if i’m not fucking her within an hour, then i’ve made mistakes”. the best part is that once you’re fucking her, she will WANT you to slap her.
    very few things in life are as hot as fucking an angry woman, slapping her face just as she’s starting to cum, and having her orgasm explode to double intensity as a proximate result.

    this is of course restricted to social situations where said conversion is feasible, a category that probably excludes game shows.
    if i were the contestant, i would have just given her a long look – staring into her eyes a little longer than usual, giving the “you want me, don’t you, you pathetic bitch” smirk, giving her the once- and twice-over directly at her tits and hips – and left it at that.

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  22. i would agree with this, johnny five, unless the slap is done in public with the obvious intent to humiliate, as was demonstrated in this video. in which case, the dainty white gloves are off. conversions are best in private domains.

    btrw, the dude who got slapped may not be supreme alpha, but in fairness to him it’s tough to fight effectively when you are gang jumped by 10+ men.

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  23. Johnny five 21–

    in my experience, a slap across the face from a woman more often than not evinces hidden desire. it’s kino (physical contact), after all – and it’s absolutely dripping with emotional arousal.

    I completely agree.

    But this wasn’t that kind of situation.

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  24. @11

    He got jumped primarely by one (who is a much better figther). Most of the other men are just buffers breaking up the figth.

    And the guy is obviously a sissy. Just listen: “How she *whaah* slap? *whaah*” ad nauseum.

    This isn’t nowhere near alpha handling of the situation. He is a just a coward brat.

    At best it is a crappy example of what is perhaps hypothetically the correct action.

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  25. Look at his facial expression at 0:10

    I agree with Mikkel, his betatude floods out like a broken dam as he tries to justify himself to others present on set – “How can she slap?” is an appeal to mercy, because he’s at the same level as the rest of the men present. If he was in their place, I bet he’d do exactly as they did.

    More deliberation in his slap (and his body language right before he executed it) would instill fear in her – thus serving the purpose of aggression. He should have simply walked off after the slap as if it was a natural thing to do. That’s dominance.

    The slap was clearly an impulsive reaction – not controlled aggression. His alpha demeanor is limited to the stare (overdone) at 0.07.

    You can also hear him cry for mercy – later in the video.

    An alpha’s patience should start where the woman’s patience ends. State control, Roissy – that’s the only way to be in control even if the shit has hit the fan. It’s also the best starting point to manipulate her emotions as johnny five has so effectively described.

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  26. The thing about this situation was how instinctive the response was. It wasn’t about alpha or beta like the fags on this blog go on about. It was a natural instinct to being slapped. Whether or not it was a woman or not, he was going to slap the person who slapped him.

    Another point mentioned is the woman’s behavior was despicable. Who is this woman to tell this guy to “fuck off” and then slap him without any true justification?

    As for the guy crying afterwards, well he was 1. beat down pretty bad, and 2. did not have proper control over his initial fury which resulted in the crying. Again, its not about alpha or beta, it was simply a natural course of emotion for this man.

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  27. “agree with Mikkel, his betatude floods out like a broken dam as he tries to justify himself to others present on set – “How can she slap?” is an appeal to mercy, because he’s at the same level as the rest of the men present. If he was in their place, I bet he’d do exactly as they did”

    Disagree. the initial “how can she slap” is in his poor and profanity-less english, the basic “who the fuck are YOU to slap me?”

    Later, after he is getting beat down, it may be an appeal to the others; initially, it is his anger.

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  28. I’ve been slapped three times. First time was my feisty, horny scorpio high-school girlfriend who found out I hooked up with another girl she know (who was not as hot as she was). They were sort of friends. It was in public and she was pissed. Second time was in college, by a girl I had been fucking and then dumped, instantaneously, when she brought her dog back to school after a vacation. I told her it was because of the dog, with no hesitation at all. And she slapped me, again in public, with many people around. Third time is by my wife who is prone to fits of shit-testing and pure rage. This was not in public, not intended to be dramatic, but with actual intent to harm me physically.

    Here’s how I reacted:

    1. Sat there like a douche. She walked away.
    2. Laughed, and said something like ‘Whoa, calm down, psycho’.
    3. Slapped myself in the face – in response- ten times harder than she slapped me- saying you want to hurt me, fuck you, hit me harder like this, that was nothing…

    Me: Alpha or beta?

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  29. Unless a man is protecting his life it’s never okay for him to hit a woman. If I saw a man hit a woman, I would lose complete respect for him. I would also put it out on the female grapevine that he is a woman beater, and for all females to beware.

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  30. 20 dougjn:

    The point is women should feel the man always COULD use it. He just isn’t. Because he’s strong.

    If things have gotten to the point where your woman feels justified in slapping you or otherwise initiating violence, your REAL mistake was made weeks, months or years ago. Everything else is damage control.

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  31. 28 slapee:

    1. Sat there like a douche. She walked away.
    2. Laughed, and said something like ‘Whoa, calm down, psycho’.
    3. Slapped myself in the face – in response- ten times harder than she slapped me- saying you want to hurt me, fuck you, hit me harder like this, that was nothing…

    Me: Alpha or beta?

    Do you really need to ask?

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  32. he should’ve swept the leg.

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  33. Animus – credit for the Way of the Gun reference.

    – the best part was, he smacked her, then stepped forward to question her behavior afterwards…..besides, having dated my share of Indian girls, she’s prob the type that is so used to having guy’s grovel at her heels and beck to lick the bottom of her shoes that she got instantly wet when he hit her….if they were alone in a room full on assfucking no-condom style was about to occur.

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  34. i’ve been slapped 3 times. 2 on one occasion.
    First time I got slapped (twice in succession) – a girl kissed me in front of my girlfriend, and i literally was so black out drunk that i didnt” pull away soon enough for her tastes.

    Second time I got slapped – my girlfriend found out I’d had another girlfriend for about 8 months while seeing her.

    Each time i resorted to the classic “wrist grab”/shake method (commonly used for other hysterical behavior as well).

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  35. on September 10, 2008 at 10:17 pm Not the real Buddha

    I’m going to have to say this: India is the most beta country. Passive-agressive yet still polite remarks are about as bad as things get there.

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  36. First off, if I slap some dude, or punch him, not much damage is going to happen. He’s a dude, he can take it (talking about same age range, fit physically, obviously).

    Reality guys — women, the elderly, kids, etc. get hit or slapped by an adult male, they can get seriously damaged. We are bigger and stronger, a few exceptions such as Gary Coleman vs. Serena Williams not withstanding.

    The only appropriate measure, by any man worthy of being called that, is derisive laughter. Women are far weaker. Perhaps a grab of the wrist, momentarily, to remind her of the physical disparities are in order.

    However … IMHO that video is fairly unrepresentative of what actually happens. Incident after incident after incident — a man really abuses (violent beat down) his girlfriend/wife in public (see Dalrymple’s account of this in a hospital in “Life at the Bottom”) and the “beta” men do nothing.

    This is for the following reasons: social conditioning makes responding to violence “unacceptable” by feminist/leftist ideology in our culture, from elementary school onwards; fear of legal action by the troglodyte beating his wife/gf, which btw is well founded — ordinary middle class white men have ZILCH rights and thugs have them all, “let the police handle it” has been drummed into every man by leftists/feminists as part of the Multicultural dogma as if they were both magic and everywhere (the real reason is delegitimatizing individual initiative); … but MOST OF ALL it is the lack of reward for “betas” who rush to women’s defense and the lack of connection to women they have.

    In the VT shootings, not a single young, robust, man did anything to stop the shooter, even when he was reloading and could have been jumped. It took an elderly Holocaust survivor and a Professor of Engineering, military vet in his late 40’s to do anything at all.

    Women chose in aggregate to pursue a few Alphas and leave the betas without any connection. And the VT response (their lives are not worth sacrificing) is what they get. Or more commonly, no reaction but avoiding the eyes to public beatings of women.

    Men with girlfriends/wives who they value will expect each other to look out for them … not out of chivalry but out of mutual advantage. If I look out for your wife and you mine, we each benefit and protect the mothers of our children and life-mates.

    That’s just … gone. It is not coming back. And so women are on their own, mostly. Their Alpha man can’t and won’t be with them 24/7. Unconnected betas will NOT defend them. They certainly have not in many other incidents.

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  37. Reality guys — women, the elderly, kids, etc. get hit or slapped by an adult male, they can get seriously damaged. We are bigger and stronger, a few exceptions such as Gary Coleman vs. Serena Williams not withstanding.

    Yes, you’re right, WHICH IS ALL THE MORE REASON WHY WOMEN SHOULD NOT HIT MEN AND RISK GETTING PHYSICAL RETALIATION.

    A good rule of thumb in life: no good comes from shielding people from the consequences of their actions. They not only never learn their mistakes, the bad behavior gets reinforced.

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  38. You may say that his retaliation was abusing his physical power over her; on the other hand, her initial slap was abusing her socio-sexual power over him–she knew he could only either submit or face the fury of the sex-crazed beta-servants.

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  39. on September 10, 2008 at 11:23 pm random passerby

    chicnoir:
    Unless a man is protecting his life it’s never okay for him to hit a woman. If I saw a man hit a woman, I would lose complete respect for him. I would also put it out on the female grapevine that he is a woman beater, and for all females to beware.

    If woman suddenly hit me out of nowhere, I would hit her back. If you don’t like equality then go back in the kitchen (or just stop hitting people).

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  40. “If you don’t like equality then go back in the kitchen”

    genius, pure fucking genius!

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  41. the first one to two dudes were fairly decisive (alpha trait), the longer the subsequent “defenders” took the more beta they are, since they weren’t willing to risk a real fight but only came in after he was down

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  42. random passerby 39–

    If woman suddenly hit me out of nowhere, I would hit her back. If you don’t like equality then go back in the kitchen (or just stop hitting people).

    No not hitting back. Not on. Never good. It’s stupid legally for one thing. But it’s also wrong. Her punch or two isn’t going to kill you.

    There are other ways of dealing with it. You certainly shouldn’t ever be intimidated by it, or let on you are. But how else is to deal would be very context dependent.

    I also don’t think it happens very often. It’s never happened to me. well, wait, maybe it has … but that was another gf, and it was baby punches to my chest, and I was soon f*cking her, so, well.

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  43. random passerby- At 5’9.5 I am as tall as most American men but I still don’t raise my hands to hit them unless I feel threatened. I like my face and I don’t want it to be rearranged.

    Have any of you ever noticed how often petite women bully and/or threaten men versus taller/bigger women?

    You should know that most of the women who see you slap the hell out of another woman would be turned off. If you beat up a man and you may get some play but beat up a woman, and the women who witnessed your attack, will fear you.

    If you don’t like equality then go back in the kitchen

    why, so I can get a meat cleaver or butcher knife.

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  44. on September 11, 2008 at 12:26 am random passerby

    dougjnn:
    No not hitting back. Not on. Never good. It’s stupid legally for one thing. But it’s also wrong. Her punch or two isn’t going to kill you.

    With freedom comes responsibility, and if women aren’t prepared to accept the latter then they do not deserve the former.

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  45. I really need to knowid the guy said. He must of said something that triggered her to give him a dirty slap.

    If there is anyone lurking who can translate, please do.

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  46. random passerby:With freedom comes responsibility, and if women aren’t prepared to accept the latter then they do not deserve the former.

    Remember and apply ^^^that when it comes to men having condom less S*x and child support.

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  47. on September 11, 2008 at 12:30 am random passerby

    chicnoir:
    You should know that most of the women who see you slap the hell out of another woman would be turned off. If you beat up a man and you may get some play but beat up a woman, and the women who witnessed your attack, will fear you.

    Good.

    why, so I can get a meat cleaver or butcher knife.
    Christ. So not only is it okay for women to go around attacking anyone they want to for no reason without expecting any retaliation, but they should also be allowed to do it with deadly weapons?

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  48. * runs out of the comments box before i am called every name in the book*

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  49. on September 11, 2008 at 12:31 am random passerby

    chicnoir:
    Remember and apply ^^^that when it comes to men having condom less S*x and child support.

    What?

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  50. @random passerby- Now I know you understand that I was attempting to be witty and come back with a good rejoinder.

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  51. RL said You should know that most of the women who see you slap the hell out of another woman would be turned off. If you beat up a man and you may get some play but beat up a woman, and the women who witnessed your attack, will fear you.
    Good.

    but you will get no S/e.x or girlfriend.

    With freedom comes responsibility, and if wo(men) aren’t prepared to accept the latter then they do not deserve the former

    ^^^apply this to men who don’t use condoms and but don’t want to pay child support.

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  52. sunny:
    An alpha’s patience should start where the woman’s patience ends. State control, Roissy – that’s the only way to be in control even if the shit has hit the fan.

    patience has its limits. sometimes the alpha thing to do is a little of the ol’ openpalmedviolence.
    i suspect, sunny, that you couldn’t imagine *any* scenario in which it would be OK or even preferable for a man to slap a woman who is out of line. often, the high-minded road of advocating alpha restraint is used as pretext to avoid the sort of justifiable physical escalation that most betas are too cowardly to utilize. sometimes state control is the alpha path; sometimes the alpha path is an egregious outburst of masculine energy. btw, this is why responding to provocation initially in a calm manner and then surprising your foe with an intimidating barrage of verbal or physical violence right at the moment when they think they’ve avoided your ire is such an effective tactic for asserting dominance.

    to put it another way: alpha dominance and slapping a woman are not mutually exclusive.

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  53. Okay, I got it

    The guy said,”the thing is, we don’t want to talk to you”

    woman said,” Well F*** then”

    woman: slap

    man: slap

    I need to see the entire conversation to understand why he said he didn’t want to talk to her.

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  54. on September 11, 2008 at 12:43 am random passerby

    chicnoir:
    Now I know you understand that I was attempting to be witty and come back with a good rejoinder.

    Huh?

    but you will get no S/e.x or girlfriend.
    If I am attacked by a woman and use force to defend myself and other women fear or despise me as a result, then that’s simply an indication that they’re either insane feminists or insane pacifists. Reasonable people understand that there’s nothing wrong with self-defense.

    Also, I’m fine with never having sex or getting a girlfriend. I’m not some chump PUA or “alpha” who spends his entire life being led around by women.

    apply this to men who don’t use condoms and but don’t want to pay child support.
    In this situation the woman is the one responsible, not the man.

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  55. 53 chic noir:

    I need to see the entire conversation to understand why he said he didn’t want to talk to her.

    Good lord, does it even fucking matter at that point???

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  56. i like this blog, it has jumped to top 100 blog now

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  57. A woman who slaps a man is trying to humiliate him in exactly the way she would if she spat in his face. I’ve been slapped hard by a woman, and it didn’t even hurt. Woman can’t hit hard enough with a slap to hurt a man without destroying their slap-hand. It’s a way of establishing social dominance.

    So that’s what a man should do in return: when a woman slaps him, don’t slap back…you could hurt her, and believe me, in today’s zero tolerance environment it’s the guy who’ll be doing the perp walk out the door with cuffs on and a raincoat over his head. Even if the chick hit first. There are very few women who could hurt me with a slap. I could hurt most women quite badly if I wound up and gave them a flat hand across the mouth.

    What to do? Humiliate her back. Take a big breath, clear your throat and GOOD. And then deliver a great green gobby hork right into her smirking bitch face. Smirk: gone! And there’s no danger of your hork doing any physical damage to her, any more than there was of her slap doing you harm.

    [Jesus Christ you slap back guys! Don’t you know how fragile women are? Do you know how strong the typical man is compared to a woman? If you could actually wind up and chop a woman one in the face, there’s something the fuck wrong with you. I don’t think any of the slapback-claimers would even be capable of anything of the sort. And that’s not a criticism of them. It’s praise.]

    A spit-back will put her in her place far more effectively than a slap-back. You spit in a woman’s face, you’ll be renting space in her mind for the rest of her life. She’ll remember you with hatred on her death bed. You will have crushed her like the bug she is, and she’ll know it and never forget it for as long as she lives.

    Payback’s a bitch, they say. That’s how to make it work in today’s bitch-ridden society. Learn from the ladies. Do unto them in the only currency they understand and fear: social humiliation.

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  58. Oh, another option. A weak cowardly ultra beta georgie-porgie type guy once cold-cocked me in the side of my face when my attention was distracted. (I was having a heated discussion with a woman he liked, and I think he was trying to impress her.)

    So he punched me in the side of my face. I turned, looked at him for a second, then turned back to the woman I was arguing with without missing a beat. His humiliation was complete. He hit a guy and no one even noticed! (The woman didn’t even spare him a glance.)

    That option would work on a woman too. Remember, for a woman a communication has no meaning until it is responded to. By not even noticing her slap, you are invalidating her far more thoroughly than if you slapped her back.

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  59. 58 PatrickH:

    Remember, for a woman a communication has no meaning until it is responded to.

    This bears repeating due to its implications. Pure, streamlined genius.

    By not even noticing her slap, you are invalidating her far more thoroughly than if you slapped her back.

    The problem is when this occurs in a public or social setting. There are some women who feel entitled to this sort of behavior in response to something as innocuous as an unwanted pickup attempt. Your social cachet takes a brutal hit if you are seen as getting punked out by a chick.

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  60. My estimate of the fellow’s response: Flash of Alpha, followed by reversion to Beta caused by youth, fear, and overwhelming numbers.

    While I like the way you think, PatrickH, please don’t spit on people. Not only is it crude, more importantly, it’s a fairly serious crime in some places. (Assault with bodily fluid.) As for me, in that situation, I probably would have just laughed at her. If a *man* tries to hit me in the head, I will do my level best to kill him. (Or for that matter, a woman with a weapon.) Head shots are potentially lethal, unlike a body punch. You don’t get to hit me in the head.

    This whole thing reminds me of a wonderful exchange from “Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai.”

    [after Vinny shoots a policewoman]
    Louie: Jesus, Vinny. You just iced a woman, you know that?
    Vinny: You know what you are, Louie? You’re a fuckin’ male chauvinist pig.
    Louie: What do you mean, I’m a male chauvinist pig? You just shot a broad.
    Vinny: A cop. I just shot a cop. They wanna be equal? I made her equal.

    S

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  61. @PatrickH

    You would be surprised how well not giving a person any attention works. Makes some people, of both sexes want to crawl in a hole and die.

    I got a story about a PUA guy I came across once.

    A woman who slaps a man is trying to humiliate him in exactly the way she would if she spat in his face.

    Actually, spiting on someone is ten times worse than slapping or even punching a person although it causes less physical harm. When you spit on someone, you are telling him or her that their worth is below 0.

    PatrickH, you can be arrested for spitting on someone. Spitting on someone comes under battery.

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  62. random passerby saidAlso, I’m fine with never having sex or getting a girlfriend. I’m not some chump PUA or “alpha” who spends his entire life being led around by women

    Good for you. If more men were like you ,we would have far fewer angry men in the world.

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  63. His crying is what really made him look super beta. Take that asswhiping like a man.

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  64. “Take that asswhiping like a man.”

    I just finished reading the book of alpha: the Right Stuff by Tom Wolfe. In it he describes an incident in the Korean war when a naval aviator (not a “mere” pilot, one of the elite, who land on carriers) in a dogfight ends up with a MIG behind him with a kill shot set up. Dude gets on the radio and says “I’ve got a MIG on my 6! I’ve got a MIG on my 6!”. The response? “shut up and die like an aviator”.

    Yeah, I think he could have handled the catching an asswhipping part much much better.

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  65. Patrick H. is right.

    Once a little whore smacked me and expected me to hit her in return, and was all geared up for the glory she’d gain from that. So I just spat on her face. She was shocked.

    I’ve been punched in the head by men, and it did little. The only time I’ve really been dazed by a blow to the head was when I got kicked in the eye during a street fight (that’s why I wear glasses for reading now). A slap from a woman is nothing compared to that. However, I sympathize deeply with the handsome young Hindoo. The woman who hit him was at least as beefy as he was, and in a socially dominant position. Frankly, she’s lucky he didn’t hit her back with a closed fist — although, considering what I know of south Asians, he may not have known how to do so.

    One thing that people haven’t mentioned is that women will not hit a man if they feel they’ll get the worst of it. This bitch obviously thought she could slap the boy down on TV and gain cred. Any man here should demand that a woman who pulls that on some kid should be arrested for assault and stand trial.

    Stupid women commenting that it’s no big deal when a woman hits a man should get a taste of jail and see how they like it — especially considering how many men end up there for something as simple as following a woman out of the house during an argument.

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  66. What the fuck is it with the commentators here saying it was the guy who saying ‘how could you slap me?’

    Clearly it was the chick. Listen to the voice difference. It is high pitched. The guy, the ALPHA, was busy fighting the pissweak betas swarming him. Ever tried to talk when fighting? Clearly some of you commentators haven’t. He’d be filled with anger and short bursts of words.

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  67. WTF- The guy who was slapped says, “how can she slap” over and over again as the guy with jeans on goes off on him. When he is reduced to a fit of tears he says “how can she slap me sir, how can she slap”. His getting beat upon national TV is not the worse, thing that could happen to him, his publiccrying is what sealed the deal. Although, in some cultures, men are permitted to cry openly and publicly, check out video from Iraq of men crying and rolling on the ground after their families have been killed by bombs or suicide bombers, we Americans find it very hard to accept a man crying in public. I have a theory why some cultures are more accepting of men crying in public but no studies to back me up so …

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  68. Back home in India they talk big about defending a woman’s honor – by that they mean women in your family/your group/etc. honor. I don’t think it’s so much a British Raj as it is an eastern sort of family honor thing (read Shame by Salman Rushdie – alpha extraordinaire – for some idea).

    Many guys in India are maaaajor alphas… Punjabi players is the most famous stereotype…. guys in India can get away with it while women absolutely cannot so their male relatives put a stop to it (hence the Indian devi/diva thingy someone mentioned)… Plenty of guys play around and marry the girl who’s gonna build up their wealth power and status. And have the girlfriends on the side.

    The people who think Indian guys are betas, have you met the hot Indian guys all the ladies love, or moderately wealthy up to the jet-set Indians or are you talking about your average techie in the office or that Indian professor you had in college?

    Any how fights like this happen daily in India. Not a litigous society so I’m kinda surprised this fight is so popular. I guess that’s how y’all learn about us… every Indian wedding from a family from the north has a fight yo! Just go to one. Sometimes multiple fights… Americans are so ingorant.

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  69. So about what happened above – if the crew didn’t kick his ass, the girl’s family would have. Plus that’s a good way of showing off as others said. Who wouldn’t like to jump in a throw a few punch a la Fight Club and get their tension out?

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  70. Indian men have a very high percentage of Betas. Betatude is drilled in from day 1.

    But a provider Beta can still get a hottie, since most marriages are arranged. ‘Game’ is of little use, since a nascent alpha still gets an arranged marriage by his parents. Young women have no power – they have to marry someone out of 3-4 choices that their parents select for them. It is older people who have total dominance over younger people.

    So ‘Game’ has little importance in India.

    Commenter AE is a Beta himself. He thinks that an Indian man with money automatically become ‘Alpha’.

    Now, of Indians who date in a Western society, about 1% somehow become Super Alphas. The other 99% are lesser Betas who could not lose their virginity if not for arranged marriages.

    PS> The word ‘Beta’ in Hindi means ‘son’. ‘Beti’ means ‘daughter’.

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  71. Everyone is beta there, but the contestand is slightly alpha.

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