Sarcasm Is Unfeminine

I had the following conversation with “Hal’.

Me: How goes the dating circuit?

Hal: That abrasive girl called me back. Her sarcasm is really grating.

Me: What was it this time?

Hal: She asked me what I did this past weekend. So I told her I went to a Civil War reenactment, and she was like [Hal affected a drippingly caustic tone of voice] “Oh GOD, don’t tell me you were one of those guys who dresses up in the uniform and everything. That’s SOO sexy.”

Me: It’s SOO sexy when girls talk like that.

Hal: It’s unfeminine. It doesn’t make me want to have sex with her, I can tell you that. I explained that I went to watch and learn some history, but she kept being sarcastic. She can’t turn it off. I mean, I know she likes me since she called me, but she can’t talk like a normal human being for one second.

Me: What happened next?

Hal: So I said “Well, what did you do this weekend? Yoga book club? Rescue an orphaned cat?” Then there was this long awkward silence. I relished it. There was no sound. I could hear her thinking on the other end of the phone. Finally, she says “Ach, I’ll just speak to you later in the week” and hangs up.

Me: You need a sweetie-pie. This girl wasn’t it.

Hal: No, she was a vomit-pie.

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Sarcasm is a leading indicator of low self esteem in a woman. It is a masculine manifestation driven by the ego that cannot coexist with the inner feminine driven by the heart. A girl who leans on the crutch of sarcasm to thrash her way through a conversation is hiding insecurities behind a phony facade of gritty toughness. She sees the world through a lens of negativity. Her first instinct is to doubt sincerity in others, because she is herself insincere in everything she says and does. When your date wallows in sarcastic “humor”, you will know you are dealing with a girl who is untrusting, manipulative, and incapable of being vulnerable around you. She is afraid you will see right through to her core being, and you will judge. Sarcasm shields her self-doubt from you.

Low self esteem + fear of vulnerability + sarcasm = typical urban woman.

These are the key ingredients of the Bitch. She is inherently unfeminine. Screen for these types early and often, and let the betas suffer the Bitches’ weaknesses. They deserve each other.

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  1. “Oh GOD, don’t tell me you were one of those guys who dresses up in the uniform and everything. That’s SOO sexy.”
    -I think is more of an example of what a dumb c*#t would say than sarcasm.

    I’m often witty/funny/sarcastic but in clever way (from what I’ve been told). I like making people feel comfortable and give them a few laughs when appropriate. I think sarcasm can be abrasive if you don’t know your date that well and vice versa (many men I’ve dated are sarcastic and it’s difficult to know what is their real opinion or a sarcastic comment). It’s fun to gently tease someone you like, and sarcasm does that if done well and in appropriate situations.

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  2. on October 22, 2008 at 4:21 pm ironrailsironweights

    Very few people – male or female – can pull off sarcasm effectively. It doesn’t sound as if this woman was among them.

    Oh … aren’t Civil War re-enactments total Beta loser nerdfests, attracting men who make Star Trek fans look like Alpha studs?

    Peter

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  3. on October 22, 2008 at 4:24 pm ironrailsironweights

    Me: You need a sweetie-pie.

    Or, even better, hair-pie.

    Peter

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  4. Sarcasm is the only kind of “humor” females have.

    They can’t tell good jokes or funny stories.

    If you don’t believe me, name me one funny female comedian?

    Trick question. There are none.

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  5. Aside from the sarcasm (low level humor in both men and women) she demonstrates a lack of respect and curiosity for his interest in history. Interesting women would *love* the opportunity to vicariously learn and share from his interest in civil war history. She wasted an opportunity.

    What purpose does it serve to assign “feminine” or “unfeminine” labels to another ? What purpose does it serve to assign “masculine” or “unmasculine” labels to another?

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  6. I don’t think her problem is sarcasm but just bitchiness. That being said, I think sarcasm is more forgivable in a woman than a man, so I don’t know if I agree that it’s a masculine trait. Sarcasm by its very nature is passive-aggressive. You can have a little passive aggression and still be alpha, but consistent passive aggression is as bitchy and beta as it gets.

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  7. Roosh, props on a brilliant post. Every word you have written here is pure gold.

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  8. Sarcasm is the only kind of “humor” females have.

    They can’t tell good jokes or funny stories.

    If you don’t believe me, name me one funny female comedian?

    Trick question. There are none.

    I don’t blame women for this, i blame men and their desperation. Men learn to be funny because if they are not, they will get dissed by other men for failed jokes, and women especially are dismissive to an unfunny man who tries to be funny. Picture an unfunny guy who approaches a group of strange women with a lame joke and visualize the facial expressions he’s likely to receive in return? They may not even respond to him and instead just roll their eyes and turn away. Now picture a decent looking girl approached the usual male group with an unfunny joke. No matter how unfunny it is, they’d guffaw, pretend that it is and fall all over themselves fawning over her. How is she ever going to know she is unfunny if no one tells her and keeps hanging on her every word?

    I have met some funny women, but usually they are fat or ugly chicks. People don’t pretend to laugh at their jokes so much because they aren’t hot, so they have to work at it. I also notice that when a hot chick is funny, she was usually a late bloomer, an ex-fattie, she grew up a tomboy or didn’t look hot until adulthood. Lemmonex for example has some good zingers in her comments, like an exchange she just had about baby-killing with Kick a Bitch. Her comeback was hilarious. You can totally tell she used to be a chubb.

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  9. @12

    You’re right, there is no reason for an attractive girl to learn how to be funny, it’s simple economics, she’s getting approached and will have success in life from looking good, it’s only when a girl can’t attract guys, and has nothing else going for them that they’ll try to be funny, and if there is a ton of bitterness it will turn into needy sarcasm.

    I don’t think it’s a very complicated issue, she wants to create conversation, and if a guy demonstrates that he teases, and games her she wants to feel loved and tries to do the same. I generally try to stay unfazed by it, but begin to look for something new, as I know this will go nowhere as she needs someone that can either deal with her bitterness or spend time being exactly what she wants, and most super sarcastic girls aren’t that attractive in the first place.

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  10. By the way, JAPs are the all-time worst women to date. Spoiled, shallow, self-centered princesses with absolutely no hobbies or interests outside of talking about themselves, huge sense of entitlement, etc.

    There was a great blog, now defunct, dedicated to dissecting the JAP mind called “The IJC” (Interchangeable JAP Chick):

    http://ijc.typepad.com/

    Go through the archives. Hilarious.

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  11. “How low self-esteem can a woman who is living in the high IQ, high income D.C. dating circuit really be?”

    Seriously?

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  12. most super sarcastic girls aren’t that attractive in the first place.

    With the exception of some Jewish-American chicks. I find that a lot of them, even when hot, can still be super-sarcastic. I just think it’s a big part of Jewish American culture or something.

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  13. A woman who uses it constantly would be off-putting (especially if, as in the example above, she was being sarcastic about an interest or important hobby of mine), but a gently mocking irony now and then can be very sexy in a film-noirish way,

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  14. You’re right about the Hebrew ladies, Ricky Raw. I never though of that but now it occurs to me that even constant sarcasm in Jewish women, whom I’ve always found sexy anyway (I was raised Irish Catholic so they’ve always been the “forbidden fruit”), wouldn’t be a turn-off as it would be with WASP women.

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  15. I hate when girls say they like sarcasm. When asked for an example it turns out they mix up “sarcasm” with “irony”. Irony is funny. Sarcasm is not.

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  16. true… but it’s not their self-esteem you’re trying to cover in man-goo.

    but i hear you, sarcasm has its time and place. when it’s a bitch’s default vector of communication it gets old pretty quick.

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  17. I somewhat reluctantly went to a Renaissance Festival a few years ago – thinking that it would be pretty lame. It turned out to be way more interesting than any amusement park. The jousting match was fun. Well, fun to watch anyway because it has to hurt getting knocked off a horse and landing flat on your back. The mud pit comedy was funny too. Far better than Disney or Universal as far as I’m concerned and I would have guessed otherwise.

    Sarcasm hs its place, but sneering at things you know nothing about is just ignorant. Dressing up in a uniform and marching around with rifles isn’t my idea of fun anymore, but I’ve done the Parris Island eleven week tour and even that had its comedic moments.

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  18. on October 22, 2008 at 5:15 pm Patrick Bateman

    Great analysis. I picked up a very sarcastic chick recently, and though I immediately pegged her as having a masculine personality, I hadn’t wet my dick with new pussy for a couple of weeks so I went for it. I got her to open up. This is what she had to say about me.

    Chick: Of all the guys I’ve met in _____ you’re the only one that I automatically assume is in control. You just dominate others.
    Me: How does that make you feel?
    Chick: I feel scared.

    She went on to reveal that her father was abusive and so she’s taken on the role of a man in order to prevent men from hurting her the way her father hurt her and her mother. It seems a lot of girls of good natural quality are fucked over by bad environments.

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  19. on October 22, 2008 at 5:22 pm ironrailsironweights

    Puns and sarcasm are the lowest forms of humor.

    Sorry, Lem, but I have to sort of disagree. Sarcasm can be a very clever form of humor, but only when done right. The problem is, the vast majority of people don’t know how to do it right, and it comes off as mean-spirited or just pointless.

    Peter

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  20. thanks

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  21. @23

    Yeah you need to get them to open up and it’s always a question of is this really worth the effort.

    @Rick Raw
    Yes there are certainly a large number of attractive JAPs that are super sarcastic, but when you look at how attractive they are and compare that to the work that will be required to open them up, or just deal with them, your time is better served elsewhere.

    I’d also like to point out that after you get to know an Indian girl they’re about the same as a Jewish girl when it comes to sarcasm and annoying behavior.

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  22. Why don’t you address the rest of my comment, instead of cherry picking one line.

    Is this the routine: you are the blogger, so you cherry pick a line and come off looking like you’re always right.

    My point is that the D.C. women are probably high IQ, high income to begin with. They are not low self-esteem.

    They have qualities that place them at the dominant end of the human hierarchy to begin with. They are genetically superficial, materialistic, shallow, and genetically sarcastic.

    The group you are referring to is 15 IQ points above the Caucasian mean.

    Are you going to tell us such people are not objectively dominant in many measures – or at least have a genetic tendency to act in such ways?

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  23. Not only is sarcasm very unfeminine, it’s also unmanly and unalpha. It’s very betaish, in fact.

    Sarcasm is the refuge, and the hiding place, of those who lack self-esteem — male and female.

    For the wussy, simpering low self-esteem beta male, sarcasm is the indirect way of saying what an alpha will always say directly.

    For the manhating, ballcutting faux-alpha bitch (the typical DC woman Roissy describes), sarcasm is a way of projecting a false bravada. The bitch gets to feel like “one of the guys”, a tough girl who can go head-to-head with males. She doesn’t realize she’s imitating the worst of the beta males, not alphas.

    As a self-admitted high self-esteem beta, I have never automatically resorted to sarcasm. I was raised in a family where there was almost zero sarcasm, by an alpha father and a feminine mother. So, the little sarcasm I use is all learned, and comes with difficulty. I’d much rather tell an asshole he’s an asshole or a cretin or a scumbag, than use the cutesy, precious, indirect swipes of sarcasm. If the guy is much bigger than me, I won’t say anything to his face, but I’ll figure out some way of fucking him over when the time comes.

    One ex-girlfriend of mine, who leaned much more to the typical American “sarcastic bitch” type, used to comment that she was shocked that my mom never used sarcasm. This girl seemed to think it was a given that all “smart” American women would naturally have a sarcastic bent.

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  24. It’s not American Jews. It’s just Jews.

    Politics makes it a lot of fun to date them, though, if you’ve got the evil blue eyes and you’re more than a little nationalistic.

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  25. @29 Higher Frame

    “My point is that the D.C. women are probably high IQ, high income to begin with.”

    I agree, but self-esteem doesn’t always come from your job, income, intelligence. There are a ton of smart rich people who feel bad about themselves because of their weight, inability to talk to others, inability to land a relationship, inability to bang etc.

    The women (and Men) in DC are for the most part better off than others, in terms of Job, education, income, and because of that they feel like they deserve more in terms of relationships with the opposite sex, and when they continue to fail they look at themselves and wonder why, thus lowering their self esteem, after all these are the same people who wondered why and did so much self-analysis that they got the high paying job and good education etc.

    It’s why there are so many herbs and beta guys in DC, and the same reason why their are so many sarcastic/bitchy girls in DC

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  26. And Roissy, sorry for my comment at 10, in which I called you Roosh. I really have to get back to reading his blog…

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  27. My point is that the D.C. women are probably high IQ, high income to begin with. They are not low self-esteem.

    Yes, they are.

    They have qualities that place them at the dominant end of the human hierarchy to begin with. They are genetically superficial, materialistic, shallow, and genetically sarcastic.

    The group you are referring to is 15 IQ points above the Caucasian mean.

    Are you going to tell us such people are not objectively dominant in many measures – or at least have a genetic tendency to act in such ways?

    Yes, they have low self-esteem because those traits are mostly valuable in men. In women, especially in the dating pool, not so much so. Most men, if given the option to date a hot, young model of average intelligence of an average looking woman who went to grad school and is highly educated and upwordly mobile and has a high IQ, would often choose the former, and this is even when the guy himself is an educated, savvy, high-IQ alpha type of guy. Look at Donald Trump, he doesn’t marry business women or female movers and shakers, he marries young, hot eye candy.

    This is why women can have all those traits and still have low self-esteem. Because they reach an age where they realize that all this time they spent judging themselves by the value system of men—career, IQ, money, education–has mostly been a waste in comparison to capitalizing on their youth and beauty and trying to stay skinny.

    I know plenty of high-IQ, hyper-educated, supercompetitive professional career women who lament how they can’t find a man and how they are such a catch. And I tell them, yes, you would be a catch…if you were a man with those attributes. By female standards, though, all men see is 10 years past her prime and a lot of accumulated bitterness.

    I would wager that the type of woman you describe with all those credentials and in her late 20s or older has lower self-esteem than a hot 21 year old slacker chick in her dating prime.

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  28. on October 22, 2008 at 6:32 pm Large Hadron Collider

    Sarcasm is like contempt – very cold – even liquid oxygen seems warmer to me.

    Roissy – what is the best way to quickly strip away the bitch defense and get to the inner rabbit underneath?

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  29. @12 & 13

    these are possible reasons for the whole ‘women aren’t funny’ idea, but there are others. most humor is based on being either self-deprecating or openly mean to someone else, and neither of these things are particularly ‘feminine’ traits.

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  30. @32 “I agree, but self-esteem doesn’t always come from your job, income, intelligence. ”

    Self esteem comes from –

    High Rank Potential (what you think you deserve)- your genetic predisposition towards feeling dominant, aggressive, entitled, etc. +

    Congruence in reality (what the world actually shows you that you deserve) – you objectively have achieved indicia of dominance – high status job, income, IQ (DC area – prob 25 points above white mean)

    High HP + congruence in real world = high self esteem.

    Who is going to maintain this is not reality for this group of women in D.C.

    @34 – “those traits are mostly valuable in men.”

    Agreed. But the components of high self esteem isn’t parsed out based on male vs. female as you know. Its passed on genetically regardless of gender based on one’s racial line.

    I never said sarcasm is attractive in a woman.

    I AM saying that sarcasm in certain women is probably genetic, habitual, by nature.

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  31. @34

    Ricky Raw – BINGO!

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  32. @37

    Higher Frame – You’re missing Ricky Raw’s point completely.

    It doesn’t matter how these things are genetically “parsed out”. People deal with their genotypes in the real world, and adapt their personalities to their genes and to others’ expectations.

    Ricky is just saying that women who try to conform to male standards, by being supercompetitive, climbing the career ladder, and all that, usually end up with low self-esteem.

    They aren’t automatically granted high self-esteem because of their genes.

    And even if they start out with relatively good self-esteem as teenagers, it rapidly declines when they realize their mating prospects have been dramatically reduced by adopting male-oriented standards of success.

    These women are very conflicted, and in the end what you have is a bitter bitch who clings to her so-called achievements, as markers of her self-worth. But her success with men is always pitifully bad, and consequently her satisfaction ends up being rock bottom, in the long term, because she didn’t follow the path that is most natural for a female. The one that is really written into females’ genetic script.

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  33. 34 T. AKA Ricky Raw

    I know plenty of high-IQ, hyper-educated, supercompetitive professional career women who lament how they can’t find a man and how they are such a catch. And I tell them, yes, you would be a catch…if you were a man with those attributes.

    Oh, if only. One of the big things Roissy gets right is that these attributes aren’t even valued in men anymore (by most women).

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  34. I think the ability of a woman to be sarcastic in a humorous way (and to be funny in general) depends on what her parents and siblings were like. A household with clever, funny parents will create clever, funny children. Someone already said it, but I’ll concur that the funniest women I ever knew, from hot to not-so-hot, were Jewish girls from NYC. Back when I was in college I was surrounded by them. In fact, if I hadn’t been a lowly Gentile I’m sure Ilana’s mother would’ve let me marry her. Now there was a chick who could make people laugh…

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  35. higher power:
    Why don’t you address the rest of my comment, instead of cherry picking one line.

    you gonna start paying me for my time?

    My point is that the D.C. women are probably high IQ, high income to begin with. They are not low self-esteem.

    T said it well, above. obviously, not all DC women are low self esteem. just the majority of them, if experience is any guide. women are not naturally suited to the role of income/career/education dominance like men are. when they get to those levels and discover that men are not finding them any more attractive than before their material success, they begin to harbor resentment towards men and doubt towards themselves.
    this feeling manifests as biting sarcasm.

    The group you are referring to is 15 IQ points above the Caucasian mean.

    i wasn’t referring to any group. the jdate reference was included to maintain story continuity.
    personally, i have known many sarcastic gentile girls with low self esteem. this is not to say that there aren’t group differences in levels of self esteem and sarcasm usage.

    Are you going to tell us such people are not objectively dominant in many measures – or at least have a genetic tendency to act in such ways?

    it depends how you define dominance. a woman who is dominant by virtue of her beauty, sexiness, and femininity will have, i bet, higher self esteem than a woman who is dominant in male endeavors. the question of the genetic genesis of that dominance is irrelevant to the purposes of our discussion. dominance can lead to low self esteem if it doesn’t placate the ego in the way expected.

    I AM saying that sarcasm in certain women is probably genetic, habitual, by nature.

    so is female hirsuteness. but that doesn’t mean men can overlook it. like with everything else, if you have a negative trait that lowers your market value, either own up to it and fix it, or deal with the consequences.

    large hardon collided:
    Roissy – what is the best way to quickly strip away the bitch defense and get to the inner rabbit underneath?

    remote operated vaginally inserted vibrating egg.

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  36. For once I agree 110% with Roissy. The sarcasm epidemic among DC women is disgusting and a turn-off. It’s simply a form of thinly veiled aggressiveness and nastiness. Contrast someone who actually has a good sense of humor based on observing the ironies in life.

    Marry a woman who is overly sarcastic early in dating, in ten years she’ll be making nasty, passive-aggressive comments at dinner parties about how she had to settle for you.

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  37. @43

    MQ said:

    “Marry a woman who is overly sarcastic early in dating, in ten years she’ll be making nasty, passive-aggressive comments at dinner parties about how she had to settle for you.”

    Try one year. Six months for a DC bitch.

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  38. jaakkeli–My entire Jewish family has blue or green eyes. Just saying. If you are going to use a fake cliche or be semi stereotypical…why don’t you go with dark hair and big noses? Oh wait…my entire Jewish family has small noses and are natural blondes.

    My bad.

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  39. Marry a woman who is overly sarcastic early in dating, in ten years she’ll be making nasty, passive-aggressive comments at dinner parties about how she had to settle for you.

    Case in point, Michelle Obama gave a speech on how she kept turning Obama down for dates when they first met and how he was so persistent and begging that he finaly “wore her down” and she gave him a pity date. I can guarantee she was probably sarcastic from the start before she ended up the passive-aggressive public ball-cutter she is now.

    (Okay, I’m just harping on Michelle Obama at this point to bug Chic Noir now, I admit it. 😉 )

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  40. Also, on the civil war reenactment stuff — sure, a lot of reenactors are geeky. But the Civil War is the most important event in U.S. history after the Revolution. DC is right in the center of the area where the key battles were fought, many of the battlefields have been preserved in close to their original condition. Anyone who can’t immediately see why someone might be interested in getting a sense for that history lacks intellectual curiousity and openness.

    A lot of success in elite education in the U.S. is just being obedient/good at following fashions/the herd, what someone who automatically snarks at nerdy civil war reenactors is doing is showing that dimension of education was much more important for them than real intellectual curiousity.

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  41. Sarcasm is not attractive, as it is by its nature, biting humor directed outward for the amusement of the individual inflicting it. Giving someone a good-natured ribbing, however, is different because it tests whether that person has a sense of humor or takes him/herself/life too seriously.

    A sarcastic person is a cynical individual. Dealing with such a negative person takes the joy out of life and kills any passion you may have for him/her.

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  42. Roissy – I’ve changed my screen name to reflect your voluntary deference to me –

    You say: “the question of the genetic genesis of that dominance is irrelevant to the purposes of our discussion. dominance can lead to low self esteem if it doesn’t placate the ego in the way expected.”

    Far from being irrelevant, it’s central. If we’re talking about self-esteem, and self-esteem is irrefutably partly genetic – than the genetic genesis is relevant.

    Dominance is partly genetic, and so is sarcasm. The wise ass at age 27 was probably a wise ass at 13.

    If you take the sarcastic 27 year old woman at the bar – and look at her back in time when she is a 13 year old girl in the leafy suburb mall being picked up by her mother in a Mercedes who never worked married to the typical placating ‘yes, dear’ husband – you will see the same sarcasm, spoiled, entitled view of the world in the teenager as in the grown adult.

    The progression is usually: obnoxious teenager to raving bitch.

    The total nice girl at 13 rarely turns into the raging bitch.

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  43. Btw, there’s no question Michelle Obama is cut from the same cloth as Hillary Clinton:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/10/03/ST2008100302144.html

    But Michelle could also frustrate her supervisors. Quincy White, the partner who helped recruit Michelle and who headed the marketing group, remembers finding her a challenge to manage. White, who is now retired from the firm, says he gave her the most interesting work he could find, in part because he wanted to see her advance, but also because she seemed perennially dissatisfied.

    She was, White recalls, “quite possibly the most ambitious associate that I’ve ever seen.” She wanted significant responsibility right away and was not afraid to object if she wasn’t getting what she felt she deserved, he says.

    At big firms, much of the work that falls to young associates involves detail and tedium. There were all sorts of arcane but important rules about what could and could not be said or done in product advertisements, and in the marketing group, all the associates, not just the new ones, reviewed scripts for TV commercials to make sure they conformed. As far as associate work goes, it could have been worse — “Advertising is a little sexier than spending a full year reading depositions in an antitrust law suit or reviewing documents for a big merger,” says White — but it was monotonous and relatively low-level.

    Too monotonous for Michelle, who, White says, complained that the work he gave her was unsatisfactory. He says he gave her the Coors beer ads, which he considered one of the more glamorous assignments they had. Even then, he says, “she at one point went over my head and complained [to human resources] that I wasn’t giving her enough interesting stuff, and the person came down to my office and said, ‘Basically she’s complaining that she’s being treated like she’s a second-year associate,’ and we agreed that she was a second-year associate. I had eight or nine other associates, and I couldn’t start treating one of them a lot better.”

    White says he talked to Michelle about her expectations, but the problem could not be resolved because the work was what it was. He is not sure any work he had would have satisfied her. “I couldn’t give her something that would meet her sense of ambition to change the world.”

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  44. @48 –

    Bingo.

    Sarcasm is a dominance play.

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  45. I love it when they’re angry. Kassy, crucify me!

    BTW I can’t believe I made her post on this site.

    Racial stereotyping, it’s my shtick.

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  46. 50: what you describe there is way worse than anything I’ve heard about Hillary. Hillary earned what she got pretty much every step of the way and didn’t complain about it. Most of hte male dumping on Hill is purely fear-based.

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  47. @ 49 Higher Power – I think you are confusing ego and self-esteem. I can have a huge ego and be arrogant about my accomplishments but have horrible self-esteem. This genetic predisposition you speak of I think is better described as a big ego rather than a high self-esteem and it is often the exact thing that makes these women’s self-esteem drastically go south when life disappoints them in any way. It also makes them extra bitter and snarky and angry in response to lfe’s disappointments because they felt entitled to so much more due to their perceived innate superiority. Someone who always had low expectations for themselves and was humble from birth does not get as personally devastated and bitter when life doesn’t turn out to be incredibly spectacular. Princesses who were groomed from birth with expectations of a superstar lifestyle and had big egos from birth take it much more as a devastating blow to their self-esteem when reality gives them anything other than perfection.

    For example, whose self-esteem would take a bigger hit from landing a $30,000 a year job, a Harvard grad/Rhodes scholar with the genetic predisposition to big ego you speak of or a community college grad with humble self-image? I’d be willing to bet that the genetically inherited big ego would have lower self-esteem from that result than the community college grad. Likewise this high ego girl who thinks she can be powerful by male standards and still be a supermother, ideal wife and attractor of prized alpha males similarly gets a rude awakening and low self-esteem when reality slaps her in the face and she has to settle for a provider beta she can barely stomach looking at.

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  48. jaakkeli–Alas, you win! 🙂

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  49. 46 Slick Rick:

    (Okay, I’m just harping on Michelle Obama at this point to bug Chic Noir now, I admit it. 😉 )

    Carry on, carry on 🙂

    52 jaakkeli:

    I love it when they’re angry. Kassy, crucify me!

    LOL

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  50. t said:Okay, I’m just harping on Michelle Obama at this point to bug Chic Noir now, I admit it.

    lol&smh

    harold ford much

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  51. BTW I know perfectly well that there are lots of blue and green eyed Jews. Surprisingly many ex-Soviet immigrants are Jews that pass here. I guess Finland is a good place if you want to escape poverty but want to keep the brooding drunk company and bad weather.

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  52. 50Anonymous said
    Btw, there’s no question Michelle Obama is cut from the same cloth as Hillary Clinton

    I’ve been saying it all along. Two sides of the same coin.

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  53. @ comment 50:

    Wow, I knew Michelle Obama was a ballbuster before, but man I had no idea she was that bad. She makes Hillary look downright adorable and feminine in comparison. I think Obama should now be rechristened on this site as O-beta.

    Bad enough he’s so powerful and he chose a 5, but it’s not even a 5 with a pleasant personality.

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  54. Chic – you realize Harold Ford endorsed and wrote a letter in support of Obama this month, right?

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  55. jaakkeli
    BTW I know perfectly well that there are lots of blue and green eyed Jews

    I’ve seen Jewish people with blonde hair and blue eyes. Wait for it wait for it… there are a small number of African-Americans who have this color combination.

    http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Feminists

    Roissy,T, Whiskey, Jaakkeli,DoJ, which one of you are responsible for this^^^

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  56. T. AKA Ricky Raw
    Chic – you realize Harold Ford endorsed and wrote a letter in support of Obama this month, right?

    Only because he hopes to fill Obama’s shoes should Obama go missing. You know people have problems telling “us” apart 🙂

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  57. Good point . Ricky Raw, about the difference between big ego and health self-esteem. Many of the big-ego types I’ve run into seem to have a great need to impress other people, and such neediness does not strike me as a sign of a healthy self-esteem.

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  58. Sometimes, Roissy, sarcasm is just the only way to get things done.

    For instance, if you’re engaging in a political argument with a complete idiot…you can either be sarcastic and make fun of him, or fly off the handle and yell at him.

    The first would be a lot more acceptable for a woman than the second.

    And I love a girl who can chat politics 😉

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  59. I agree that if you’re a sarcastic bitter human being at 13 it’s a high likely hood that you still are when you’re 25. And some part of that is probably genetic, some part socialized, but some part of it is the expectations you have. We’re all taught at early on, that everyone is the same, and you should strive for the best grades, best colleges, best jobs, make good money etc. Well what happens if you find yourself on top of the big heap and now you can’ t get the girl/guy you want, or any for that matter. You become increasingly bitter with life, and sarcasm is a more accepted way of dealing with this. And as far as proposition of who would feel this to the highest degree? It’s going to be people from wealthy families, and successful backgrounds, especially girls whose families instilled these values into them at a young age. When they got older they realized that they have this interest in men, and it’s going nowhere even though what they’ve been socialized to believe, (good job, education, wealth etc is all you need) leads them no where with the opposite sex, then they go watch Sex in the City and think Big will come save them. He never shows up and the bitterness and resentment grows, and thus becomes sarcasm, as that’s what is appropriate and acceptable by our social (sub)standards

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  60. #66 – Exactly. They think becoming successful by the standards of the male world makes them superior to the hot young bimbo or the attractive Stepford housewife because feminism told them so. So when they see their male, high-status counterparts passing them up for the younger, supposedly inferior models who are pretty, young, submissive and low-ambition, they get bitter. And they write shrill articles like this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/13/opinion/13dowd.html

    Maureen Dowd is a perfect example of high ego, low self-esteem, and that article is proof.

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  61. Okay, I’m a woman and here is my best joke:. (dirty joke)

    A man and woman are lying on the sofa together. He touches gently behind her neck. Then slowly reaches along the side of her chest. He traces along her belly and then her hips.

    He stops. She waits.
    She: “Honey, why did you stop?”
    He: “I found the remote control.”

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  62. 62 chicnoir

    http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Feminists

    Roissy,T, Whiskey, Jaakkeli,DoJ, which one of you are responsible for this^^^

    Wow, you really don’t pay attention to how I think…

    67 T. AKA Ricky Raw

    They think becoming successful by the standards of the male world makes them superior to the hot young bimbo or the attractive Stepford housewife because feminism told them so.

    Well, nobody seemed to pay attention the first time around, but I’ll try again…

    Males succeeding by many of the standards of the male world can be as shafted as females who do. Productivity, in general, just isn’t socially rewarded much any more; this problem is far deeper than just feminism.

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  63. what is up with Roosh’s blog. It keeps trying to make my download something everytime i try to load the page.

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  64. How much of this is generational? I don’t get that vibe at all from people born from 1959 to 1964, and they didn’t seem to be that way when they were in their 20s and 30s. But Generation X identified itself with sarcasm. Janeane Garofalo and Jon Stewart being the two best examples — and both painfully unfunny (and ugly).

    I also don’t hear it much from high school and college kids nowadays.

    The Jewish thing is probably right. Combine Ashkenazi Jewish with trying to block out her going-nowhere career, *and* being Gen X, and you’ve got a lethal combination in 99% of all cases.

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  65. Sarcasm is unfeminine? That’s terrible.

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  66. I love your little “was this post” poll, but none of the choices apply. You wish! Hurtful? Helpful? Fiercely Alpha? *cough*

    How about No Effect?

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  67. Oh … aren’t Civil War re-enactments total Beta loser nerdfests, attracting men who make Star Trek fans look like Alpha studs?

    not if you go as a spectator to enjoy a reenactment of fighting to the death, warfare, and history that hasn’t been wrung bloodless through the feminazi ringer at a liberal arts college.

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  68. “You need a sweetie-pie.”

    Thinking of you saying that just made my day…and that isn’t sarcastic.

    I do defer to sarcasm sometimes, I admit it. It generally is when someone says something so ridiculous, it seems the only way to counter. That being said, it can grate on my fucking nerves when the only way a person–man or woman–can express themselves is through sarcasm. Puns and sarcasm are the lowest forms of humor.

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  69. I’m not sure sarcasm is always an indicator of low self-esteem.

    For the readers who are familiar with “frames,” and frame control, dominant people, or high Rank Potential people, may use sarcasm as way of staying one-up on you and controlling the frame of the conversation.

    This idea that a dominant person doesnt need to show it often isn’t true in my experience. In my experience, dominant people want to feel – dominant. Sarcasm is one way to control the frame.

    If the women in a certain area are from a certain background heritage-wise – and exhibit certain similar traits – you may be looking at something that is simply a genetic inherent trait to some extent.

    How low self-esteem can a woman who is living in the high IQ, high income D.C. dating circuit really be?

    Chances are she is really a shallow, materialistic person who is genetically, biologically, high RP and uses sarcasm habitually with everyone.

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  70. Actually I’ve never felt sarcasm was a masculine trait at all but I have to ask, what the hell was Hal doing on JDate?! The deck is so stacked against men who go online that it’s almost impossible to pull a girl even remotely as attractive as you would with the old fashion approach. You would have to be in a dry spell so severe you’d be envious of the sahara’s total average rainfall.

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  71. @71

    agnostic – what’s funny in a comic (Stewart, Garofalo, Colbert, Fey), is emphatically NOT funny or amusing when it’s some chick throwing you shit testing you in a bar, or for that matter, in any venue of life.

    Too often, the default mode for young, urban, professional women these days is sarcasm.

    It’s so refreshing when I go to places Ukraine and the notion of incessant sarcasm as a replacement for a personality is unknown.

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  72. DOJ that’s not me.

    As far as the sarcasm thing, IMHO it’s probably the whole Daily Show thing. Lots of people imitate celebs.

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  73. agnostic – what’s funny in a comic (Stewart, Garofalo, Colbert, Fey), is emphatically NOT funny or amusing when it’s some chick throwing you shit testing you in a bar, or for that matter, in any venue of life.

    Problem is, even with those comedians i don’t think its that funny. This insistence that Colbert and Stewart are so brilliant just for being sarcastic really shows me how the word “genius” is truly the most overused word in our current lexicon in this country.

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  74. By the way, JAPs are the all-time worst women to date.

    My older cousin seems to be able to date them like crazy. His last JAP girlfriend was a daddy’s girl living off his money, and she always somehow managed to financially prop up my cousin. She even wanted to have his kid, but she aborted after he made his decision to avoid having kids. Mind you, my cousin is rather handsome and has a great personality, and admittedly, she was kinda attractive to me despite being older…

    Of course, if you’re obsessed with having high IQ kids, putting up with an annoying JAP that the other men don’t want is a great way to ensure a proper genetic lineage…

    Look at Donald Trump, he doesn’t marry business women or female movers and shakers, he marries young, hot eye candy.

    Doesn’t that lead to the possibility that his children may be of slightly lower IQ?

    I know plenty of high-IQ, hyper-educated, supercompetitive professional career women who lament how they can’t find a man and how they are such a catch.

    Some of these women entered into such professions in order to meet the high ranking alpha males that desired, while some did so out of a feminist desire to be a powerful woman with high income, and others did so to please their parents. If you’re not an attractive female, given the low quality of the average beta specimen, it probably makes a lot of sense to go develop the professional career and not rely on sleeping with an ugly loser for a decent income…

    Princesses who were groomed from birth with expectations of a superstar lifestyle and had big egos from birth take it much more as a devastating blow to their self-esteem when reality gives them anything other than perfection.

    I’d argue that why the transition from high school honor student to de facto college dropout loser has been so difficult. Once you become accustomed to a certain lifestyle, it’s hard to leave it, and once it’s gone, one becomes obsessed with trying to rebuild that former stage of glory. Eventually, when it doesn’t come back, one feels bitter, and increasingly isolated from the rest of society.

    So when they see their male, high-status counterparts passing them up for the younger, supposedly inferior models who are pretty, young, submissive and low-ambition, they get bitter.

    If you believe in marriage as a life partnership with two individuals with mutual interests coming together, then their bitterness is in feeling that their attributes should have made them attractive as life partners. It’s one thing to see a guy bang a pretty, young submissive, low ambition girl, but it’s another when they see their male counterparts marrying such women who don’t meet so-called “life partner” or social class qualities.

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  75. higher frame:
    How low self-esteem can a woman who is living in the high IQ, high income D.C. dating circuit really be?

    you just answered your own question.

    anonymous:
    What purpose does it serve to assign “masculine” or “unmasculine” labels to another?

    yin yang polarity is at the heart of humanity.

    DF:
    Actually I’ve never felt sarcasm was a masculine trait at all but I have to ask, what the hell was Hal doing on JDate?!

    hal says he is like a wolf among sheep on jdate. the pickings are easy for him when the competition is so weak.

    above&under:
    Hey, I know how you feel about DC women. So out of curiosity. How do you feel about Canadian women?

    canadian women are the most beautiful, feminine women in the whole world.

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  76. added to that list is the fact that most overly sarcastic women despise having it turned on them, much like how it’s a firefight if you wish to oppose the views of a liberal-minded woman….it’s okay to be liberal and open-minded as long as your views are congruous….just like it’s okay for her to disparage and mock you as long as you take the donkey punch like a good little gay porn fluffer and bend over.

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  77. “A girl who leans on the crutch of sarcasm to thrash her way through a conversation is hiding insecurities behind a phony facade of gritty toughness. She sees the world through a lens of negativity. Her first instinct is to doubt sincerity in others, because she is herself insincere in everything she says and does. When your date wallows in sarcastic “humor”, you will know you are dealing with a girl who is untrusting, manipulative, and incapable of being vulnerable around you. She is afraid you will see right through to her core being, and you will judge. Sarcasm shields her self-doubt from you.

    Low self esteem + fear of vulnerability + sarcasm = typical DC woman.

    These are the key ingredients of the Bitch. She is inherently unfeminine. Screen for these types early and often, and let the betas suffer the Bitches’ weaknesses. They deserve each other.”

    quite true

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  78. so what are we suppose to be…nice all the time? i don’t think that is physically possible for me.

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  79. Ricky Raw (14):

    That IJC site is great. Best part is Stephanie Klein in the comments claiming to be “hot.”

    http://ijc.typepad.com/ijc/2004/10/as_promised.html

    Yuck.

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  80. Some of you who are thinking about egos, sarcasm, dominance, etc, might find the work of Sam Vaknin interesting. He writes about narcissism and is very enlightening about it. He’s an interesting character too — a self-described narcissist himself. Anyway: he’s good at stuff like egotism, heathy vs unhealthy narcissism, drive, etc. Read a bunch of Vaknin and for a few weeks afterwards everyone you know will seem like a narcissist. His main website is here.

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  81. Why Women Aren’t Funny by Christopher Hitchens: http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/01/hitchens200701

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  82. 82 Michael Blowhard:

    Read a bunch of Vaknin and for a few weeks afterwards everyone you know will seem like a narcissist.

    Hey kids, it’s the latest craze that’s sweepin’ across the nation…

    “Both Satanic cults and Christian fundamentalists are closer to seeing the truth than most normal people. Something is going on but it’s not what they think. The Beast is staring out from each pair of eyes you see. Each glance in the mirror is the story of this world…” — C.S.H.

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  83. Incidentally, while I think generally y’all are right about girls not being as funny as guys, I also think you’re missing a few points about guys, girls, and humor.

    1) Different styles and tastes. Guys tend to like prodding, jokes, explosiveness — dick humor. And then they’re disappointed when most girls don’t do what’s basically dick humor. But have you ever listened into an all-girl group? They laugh hysterically at each other. Now, most of that is girls showing rapport to other girls. But not all of it. To one extent or another, they’re evidently finding each other funny.

    2) Well, really an elaboration of 1. If you’re open to it, there are actually numerous funny girl-performers out there who can make guys laugh as well as other girls. There are a few outrageous types who can really sell a joke, like Bette Midler. But the more common funny chick performers are the ditzes, the crazies, the offbeat sweetie-pies, etc. Cameron Diaz — pretty funny in “There’s Something About Mary,” right? Drew Barrymore can be sweet, oddball, and funny. NYC is crawling with quirky, oddball, eccentric chick-performers. Key point here: Most of them don’t do joke-humor. Most of them character humor. Or personality stuff. The “ditz” in fact is a long-established performer-type, kind of like “the ingenue.” And ditzes generally make audiences laugh, though almost never by telling a joke.

    Anyway: very few girls are funny — but maybe especially if you’re judging them by typical male-humor standards.

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  84. I like the feedback tool.. good post and pretty accurate. I made a cameo on an internet dating site… the beasts were well adjusted and affable, but they post tricky over the shoulder camera angled photos that conveniently hide the multiple chins, massive bellies, and obviously unsymmetrical tits. Regardless I applaud their effort at trying to take down well adjusted, fit, attractive men using the logic “once he meets me he won’t care that I incessantly eat pudding and am too heavy for carnival rides.”

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  85. “remote operated vaginally inserted vibrating egg.”

    AMEN to that! lol…

    sarcasm is like orgasm without the fun. kind of useless, really.

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  86. on October 23, 2008 at 2:03 pm ResidentCynic

    Sarcasm from a hot girl you just met is “cool”. Sarcasm from an ugly chick? Perhaps not so much.

    Lesson? Hot chicks get away with more BS.

    I’m cool with sarcasm from chicks though. It’s an opportunity if handled correctly.

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  87. This is pure sexist drivel. Who says it’s negative for a woman to bite like a man? Granted, it is grating if someone (man or woman) is sarcastic all the time, but to say that there’s no place for sarcasm is silly. Women are allowed to vote, drive, work and yes, be funny.

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  88. Women are allowed to vote, drive, work and yes, be funny.

    You’re right — we should really revoke these privileges if they’re not going to make good use of them.

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  89. Sarcasm is neither feminine nor masculine. It is cutting, hurtful lashes, disguised as humor. We laugh along only if we vicariously enjoy the subject being cut down.

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  90. How unfeminine is sarcasm really ?

    If ch is correct that a woman is the ultimate judge of a man’s value …

    And women, by nature, are natural judgers and critics

    And one manifestation of judgment is sarcasm

    Then sarcasm may be NATURAL to women.

    It’s one thing for the men here to say we don’t like sarcasm in a woman. In that sense, it is “unfeminine” to us because our concept of a “female” is one where she is not a wiseass.

    But it’s another thing to claim sarcasm is actually alien to the female nature.

    Sarcasm may be inherent in women. The AMOUNT of sarcasm you get from a certain woman may depend on her particular genetic makeup and the culture she’s living in.

    Today’s culture encourages American women to be outspoken, to feel entitled, and to have led women astray in believing deserve a certain kind of perfect man – sarcasm may be encouraged.

    Yet in a 1950’s patriarchal culture, women were less vocally sarcastic. They maintained the critic role, damped down. “Father Knew Best,” and women took a matronly, ‘yes, dear’ attitude with a raised eyebrow.

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  91. Women are funnier than men, and by a long shot.

    I read the Hitchens article and agreed with it…if you accept his premise that humour is stand-up, with one person holding the floor, essentially dominating a group into laughing. That’s humour all right, but it’s the kind that men are better at, not the whole of humour.

    Do a thought experiment: imagine a hall filled with tables with five people at each table (maybe a kind of banquet or gala dinner of some kind). For some reason, each table has only men or women at each: five men per table or five women, no mixes. Fifty/fifty split in total numbers.

    Now stroll around the banquet hall. Pay attention to how much laughter is coming from certain tables. My experience has been that you’ll hear laughter, often gales of it, coming from the women’s tables, esp. after a glass or two of wine. From the men, occasional explosions, but overall nowhere near as much sheer laughter.

    Now women laugh a lot at men’s humour…sometimes out of politeness, but I think, really for this reason:

    Women love to laugh.

    Laughter, including laughing jags, is one of the great pleasures in women’s lives. That’s why they laugh so much at men. They’ll use any excuse to let loose.

    But in the experiment, there are only women to laugh at. No men at the table. And yet, the women are still laughing, far more than the men are.

    So at least some of the women at the table are cracking one another the hell up. And I’ll bet the laughter-inducing is spread around each table more evenly than at the men’s. No solo acts, no one hogging the comedic limelight.

    Women, when they get together, even outside of my thought experiments, out there in the real world, laugh like lunatics. They must be finding something funny. They must be making one another laugh. They must be being funny, not just appreciating funny.

    My conclusion: women are funnier than men. It’s just that when men are around, hogging the spotlight, women don’t get the chance to show how funny they can be. Perhaps it’s because they don’t want to show it at all. They just want to tell their funny story, because the story is funny, not them.

    When no guy’s there, watch them work. Women are comedy gold, and not as the targets of humour. But as the creators.

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  92. “vomit-pie”!!! Mind if I steal that one?

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  93. Roissy saidwhereas for men laughter is a genuine reaction to something actually funny.

    Men find cruelty and perversion funny.

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  94. Chic, serious question – do you have any lesbian inclinations? Have you ever tried or considered being with a woman in the past?

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  95. No Ricky why do you ask?

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  96. Men find cruelty and perversion funny.

    that is also true.
    but it does nothing to contradict my point that men are funnier than women.

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  97. Chic –

    The only sexual act you claim to enjoy is oral sex, you refuse to go down on men, and you seem to think very lowly of men in many ways and find them insensitive and cruel. It occured to me that maybe you are on the road to dykeness. You’d have no worries about someone asking you to go down on their cock, you’d get oral sex galore and you’d get all the female sensitivity you want from your partner, since she’d actually be a woman. Based on how you love the modeling world you already have a high appreciation for women on a physical level. Lesbianism really has never crossed your mind ever?

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  98. I assume this “sexual marketplace” you speak of roissy is the expression of male/ female sexual relations as a form of commerce. This dehumanizing concept you’ve subscribed to aptly aligns itself with the traditional and twisted model of gender roles you defend.

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  99. No T, it has not. FYI,I like men but the nice type like DoJ. I keep far away from PUA. I think I mentioned I would be open to doing “that” if I was married to certainly not with every Tom Dick and Harry.

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  100. nanbot:
    I assume this “sexual marketplace” you speak of roissy is the expression of male/ female sexual relations as a form of commerce. This dehumanizing concept you’ve subscribed to aptly aligns itself with the traditional and twisted model of gender roles you defend.

    you must be new here.

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  101. fembot:
    This is pure sexist drivel. Who says it’s negative for a woman to bite like a man?

    the sexual marketplace.

    hater:
    Women are funnier than men, and by a long shot.

    you’ve just discredited yourself.

    My experience has been that you’ll hear laughter, often gales of it, coming from the women’s tables, esp. after a glass or two of wine.

    that’s because women will laugh at anything. they get emotional highs from laughter and will use any lame-o humor to get those highs. plus, laughter is a bonding mechanism for groups of women, whereas for men laughter is a genuine reaction to something actually funny.

    My conclusion: women are funnier than men.

    your conclusion needs revisiting.

    It’s just that when men are around, hogging the spotlight, women don’t get the chance to show how funny they can be. Perhaps it’s because they don’t want to show it at all.

    right. that must be why women refrain from drawing any sort of attention to themselves at all in the company of men. it’s just all those intimidating guys hogging the spotlight. or something.

    They just want to tell their funny story, because the story is funny, not them.

    do you actually know any women?

    Women are comedy gold, and not as the targets of humour. But as the creators.

    answer: no.

    ps: you can take your nose out of clio’s anus now. it’s not turning her on.

    pps: this is not to say there aren’t exceptions to the rule. hi canada!

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  102. 104 editor:

    you must be new here.

    LOL

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  103. The problem here isn’t sarcasm, it’s lame sorority girl-level sarcasm. There’s a ton a great sarcastic replies available here.

    “So I told her I went to a Civil War reenactment”

    1. Who won?

    2. Did you all roll for your characters first?

    3. (Only works live) Resisting…urge…to…take…your…lunch…money.

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  104. PatrickH made a valid point. There are some timid girls with a great sense of humor.

    I think there are two essential intellectual components of crafting funny statements: breadth of knowledge and quick ability to free-associate. We are all using the same vocabulary, but it is the experience you have to draw on and the way you put the words together. Gender doesn’t play a role, it’s all about incentive to hone the ability as previously pointed out. Looks are one incentive. Hardship is another. For instance I notice people who grew up poor or in large families with a lot of siblings tend to be funny people.

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  105. 81: Mr. Dobalina — Mr. Bob Dobalina?

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  106. Roissy, you really are just a house of cards. Lean on you and you just fold right up. What a pushover you are.

    Been talking to clio, have you? Hey, she’s says hi back.

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  107. “When your date wallows in sarcastic ‘humor’, you will know you are dealing with a girl who is untrusting, manipulative, and incapable of being vulnerable around you.”

    ch,
    Isn’t a girl who refuses to be vulnerable around you smart?

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  108. “ch,
    Isn’t a girl who refuses to be vulnerable around you smart?”

    Ba-dum-bum

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  109. I think we need to castrate Patrick H. Then again, he does not have a pair to begin with.

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  110. “ch,
    Isn’t a girl who refuses to be vulnerable around you smart?”

    Hee. Agreed.

    Besides, you’re just going to dump the “sweetie pie” when she hits 25, right? So what’s the point? She can hide her personality, pretend to agree with you, and she’s still totally disposable.

    Why on earth would a girl want to be your sweet, vulnerable plaything for the short time that you will be attracted to her? Sex is great, but there are easier ways to get it.

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  111. […] friend sent me this post last week and asked me what I thought about it. Being a very sarcastic (and witty, if I do say so […]

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  112. Wow, this guy’s a tool. Sorry, but I’m not going to take advice on femininity from a guy. Period. “It doesn’t make me want to have sex with her, I can tell you that.” Yeah, cuz every SINGLE thing we do is an attempt to get a guy to have sex with us. (Like that? Some sarcasm for you.) Did you consider that perhaps she DIDN’T like you as much as you thought?

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  113. Cause sarcasm in men is SOOOO sexy….

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  114. I have a burning desire to sic Germaine Greer on your ass.

    It’s fine to complain about people with a poor sense of humour, of a particular type of humour you don’t like. It’s not okay to presume that you have some sort of authority to ascribe what women can and can’t do just to satisfy your medieval, patriarchal view of their gender.

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  115. It’s just as unattractive in men. Why are you focusing on women? I’m always surprised that people think they’re being edgy when they’re really being sexist.

    “It is a masculine manifestation driven by the ego that cannot coexist with the inner feminine driven by the heart.”

    Femininity does not mean puppies and rainbows. Masculinity does not mean cutting observations and sarcasm.

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  116. Sounds to me like you’re the one with the insecurities. I understand a constant barrage of rude, sarcastic comments is no way to make an attempt to start a relationship (or anything, for that matter), but the fact that you were so very threatened by this woman shows that you need to prove your “maleness” to yourself. That and the whole “watching men pretend to kill one another” thing. I love history too, that’s why I read books.

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  117. I’m sorry. It must have slipped my mind that my every action and word spoken to you is an attempt to get you to have sex with me.

    Next time, I’ll just nod and smile demurely along with everything you say, so as not to appear unfeminine, or ruin my chances of coming into contact with the wonder of the world that is Your Penis.

    Whoops. Am I being abrasive? Sorry, back to the kitchen I go. You like mayo on your sandwich, right?

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  118. These “sarcasm sucks” entries baffle me (since he regularly uses his own caustic wit to degrade others…..which is basically the definition of the word)

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  119. Dishing out plenty of sarcasm, but you can’t take it.

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  120. I’m sarcastic mostly when a man is sarcastic with me. It’s a form of defense because many times they find my campy humor dorky. And especially if I like a guy and he’s sarcastic with me, I give it back ’cause part of it stings when you genuinely invite him out and he zings something back at you, totally not flowing with the conversation. So… there goes a relationship of sarcasm folks. Guys… if you think it’s unfeminine, then don’t use a female as your target.

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  121. It’s not unfeminine in a woman. It’s natural sometimes. And of course, women who start acting sarcastic with men are verbally and/or physically abused. So, guys, if your woman acts sarcastic, with you, don’t call her a bitch or punch her around, you’ll land in jail. Either you tolerate her or dump her.

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  122. Um, no, sarcasm definitely is unfeminine. It’s what dudes do to each other, not what women do to men unless they want to be “one of the boys.”

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  123. A true Alpha is protective and desires for nothing more than for those less strong than them to flourish and become strong themselves. They are not threatened by a wounded or weaker animal coming near them unless they see that animal will harm something else that they are protecting. If all that they are protecting is themselves, then they will use justifications much like your claim of ‘not feminine’ in order to make themselves feel better.

    She does not sound pleasant nor like someone I myself would befriend, but her faults do not make your actions look like those of an Alpha male in my eyes at all. If you had labeled her actions as petty and mean, actions that should be avoided by both sexes as opposed to simply females, you would have had my respect. By making it an issue of sex instead of that of good manners, you have lost my respect for your intelligence.

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