Sarcastically Disqualifying Girls

Sarcasm is unfeminine. Girls who lean on the use of sarcastic humor are a turn-off to men. Hot girls are especially prone to sarcasm, and they wield it profligately. However, there is a flip side to this fact that is good news for men. Girls *love* sarcastic men. They love being assailed by a man adept at the coarse art of sarcasm. You see, when girls are sarcastic, they are projecting their desire to be verbally molested by a sarcastic man. Psychological projection explains so much of human behavior.

Sarcasm is a powerful tool in a man’s seduction arsenal; it is particularly useful for men who shoot for girls that would conventionally be considered out of their league. Qualification (qualifying her for your continued interest) and disqualification (disqualifying her or yourself as a potential love interest) are methods by which men can make women chase them, and thus become more attracted to them. Sarcasm combined with disqualification is an especially potent combination, that when unleashed on hot women will bridge the attraction gap and spark her curiosity. If you only need to know three things to build attraction with a girl who is otherwise indfferent to you, it is these:

  1. Alpha body language
  2. Negs
  3. Disqualification

Sarcastic disqualification is not just a powerful game technique, it is fun to do. (Hot) girls lap it up. (Lesser girls could become bitchy if they think you are making fun of them for being unworthy of your time.) SDs should be dropped early in the pickup, when she is learning about you and gauging your level of alphaness. SDs are perfect answers to shit tests. You should normally say SDs with a smile, as a sarcastic line tossed off with a straight face can be misconstrued as an insult. You also need to be careful not to overuse SDs. Once attraction is there, additional SDs risk portraying you as a class clown at best, a glib asshole at worst.

Here are some examples of sarcastic disqualifications:

“Oh yeah, with that charming attitude, how could I not instantly fall in love with you?”

“Sorry, I have a rule against dating princesses.”

“I’ve been searching my whole life for a woman like you… to set up with my friend. He plays the flute!”

“I bet a sweet girl like you has a full dating life with all those Craigslist guys.”

“Wow, I can’t even talk to you… you’re too perfect in every way. I mean, just look at those flip-flops.”

“It’s a good thing you’re SOO far out of my league. Like, WAAAY up there [reach for the ceiling on your tip-toes]… otherwise I’d have to think about hitting on you.”

“Don’t worry, I only date girls who aren’t queen bees.”

“Yes, after you’re done dating George Clooney, maybe then I’ll have a shot?”

“This is amazing… to be in the presence of such beauty. You like my new watch?”

“No, I just don’t see you that way. You’re too perfect. You shouldn’t be ruined by a low-down jerk like me.”

“You are the most awesome girl ever! Wow, why aren’t I proposing right this second?!”





Comments


  1. Sarcasm works a treat with everyone all the time. It’s also cross-cultural.

    Do this with Chinese girls and you instantly jump up in the queue.

    Korean chicks might judge you, but if you persist in their “I’m Upper Class And Don’t Appreciate Such Things” face, and never let up, they eventually decide You’re A Man and when they fuck you, they don’t even have pretensions. But with them, you really have to keep it up.

    Banter is sexy.

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  2. I think sarcasm works well because it’s a reflection of both confidence and intelligence. That’s quite a combination. And it’s my favorite alternative to a neg, cause it comes so natural to me…

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  3. so really, these are just better responses to shit tests. It’s a wonder that nature programmed men with the tendency to act like puppies when we see someone we like. It’s almost like men don’t matter and this behavior is a weeding out mechanism developed for the benefit of women.

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  4. @askjoe
    so really, these are just better responses to shit tests. It’s a wonder that nature programmed men with the tendency to act like puppies when we see someone we like. It’s almost like men don’t matter and this behavior is a weeding out mechanism developed for the benefit of women.

    Um, … yes.

    Exactly.

    Not almost like.

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  5. 100% true. Easiest thing to fall back on, and easy if you always feel superiour to any woman anyways. Of course the line between beta and alpha is, is it sarcasm or bitterness?

    i’m naturally sarcastic, but as this article points out, the few girls that feel unworthy will be hurt and think yr an a-hole. But it’s still a good measuring stick to see how easy you can seduce her, or how you can seduce her.

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  6. you see what i did there…

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  7. Some of these could come off as a little too much. I think you have to calibrate this to the personality of the girl, not just her looks. Some girls are not verbally adept, some are more sweet and non-combative, etc. All context and situation dependent, but the constant principle is being detached and confident, however that plays out verbally.

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  8. on October 21, 2010 at 12:27 pm Ari Hinkelberger

    Sarcastic bonds are the juice that brings down the panties.

    When you get that jive going and you feel the flow back and forth as the sarcasm rolls of both of your tongues, you know you’re fucking later on.

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  9. Do this with Chinese girls and you instantly jump up in the queue.

    I think you’re right on this one, Gorb. Thanks for the heads up.

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  10. Girls *love* sarcastic men. They love being assailed by a man adept at the coarse art of sarcasm. You see, when girls are sarcastic, they are projecting their desire to be verbally molested by a sarcastic man.

    yes, yes – yes and hell yes.

    Amen, brother.

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  11. nothing is more annoying than sarcasm gaming a girl for months.. yea you get her, but then the smartass bitch learns your style & gives it back to you.

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  12. @Tim,

    For Chinese girls, sarcasm is gold.

    For Korean girls, less: I mean, it’s just as good, but they might get the Prim and Proper response, in which case you can happily walk away. What it means is that you need to be just as fierce not giving in: It’s a shit test, but a mighty one, and to pass, you need to be as cool as a cucumber in a freezer and when she doesn’t like the sarcasm, ignore her.

    Korean women are killer for the class-related shit tests, and if she sees you as playing a game not “worthy” of her social class, you can’t give in – then they lose respect for you.

    But with Chinese women, you’re good. Play the sarcastic banter as much as you can. Bear in mind they’re queens at bantering, though.

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  13. These mostly blow….

    You can disqualify most simply by in passing talking about:

    -age,
    -height,
    -hair,
    -skinnininess.

    These as are bueaty equalizers that all women compete on.

    Cant be blatant: ie, fashion or hair color, or race.

    Just, “Wow no blondes here”

    and a Brunnette is on the defensive

    For higher level PUA, you can allude to THIER taste, affluence, station or lack of in: “awe I remember Coach” or “Is that a Chanel knockoff”

    Again you need to be i Porsche, not on the bus

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  14. on October 21, 2010 at 1:02 pm Ascending Alpha

    I’ll have to give sarcasm game a try on my Chinese fuck buddy.

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  15. on October 21, 2010 at 1:04 pm Ascending Alpha

    Wait, do Taiwanese girls react differently to sarcasm than Chinese?

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  16. If you’re making fun of a girl and/or teasing her then you are most certainly doing it right.

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  17. Taiwanese, I don’t know. I’d guess no. It’s a Chinese thing.

    Any brand of Chinese probably works the same.

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  18. Whoever is doing the writing is just as bad as before with actual dialogue and quotes.. The main point of this post is right, but god awful examples.

    “Oh yeah, with that charming attitude, how could I not instantly fall in love with you?”

    Who would say that even with attitude/sarcasm? Its just way to wordy and a moutful.

    [You’ve gotta be kidding. Unless you’re crippled with shyness, these lines are easy to say. Obviously, if you’re uncomfortable with the lines as written, you don’t have to say them word for word. The gist of it is what’s important.]

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  19. on October 21, 2010 at 1:20 pm Willard Libby

    Girls *love* sarcastic men.

    Maybe that’s why lots of hot girls have gay guy friends.

    Bitchy, sarcastic fags know how to play women I guess.

    Do gay guys have more natural game with women than normal men?

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  20. This is rather advanced level game because once you start that sarcastic banter with a girl who digs it, it becomes a mini verbal battle and you need the wit and presence of mind to keep it up, either at a nice simmer or turning up the heat. Older or more experienced or intelligent men are going to be naturally better at this.

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  21. on October 21, 2010 at 1:27 pm The Rational Male

    Did an inadvertant disqualification a few weeks ago when I was having drinks with a female friend and her coworker. I had recently dated another one of this girl’s friends, and the conversation eventually turned to that subject.

    This isn’t the first friend of hers that I’ve banged, so I jokingly asked her which one of her friends was next, not realizing that her friend that was sitting at the table was single (in other words I hadn’t paid any sort of sexual attention to her the entire day).

    She said, “well, you could date Megan here! No, wait a minute, she’s too nice for you”, to which I immediately followed with “yea, you’re wayyyyy to nice for me Megan…..I always end up with the crazy women”.

    Evidently it pushed some buttons because immediately after that she started doing everything she could to get my attention, throwing out IOI’s, and it was game on the rest of the evening.

    This chick has a hot roommate that I’m thinking about using the same tactic on. I am the rooster in the henhouse with this group so it’s SUPER easy to spark attraction. It is usually there before I even meet them. Makes it incredibly easy to amp things up with a disqualifier when they are alreadfy diggin’ you…..

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  22. Hypergamy FTW

    http://www.tabloidprodigy.com/?p=23100

    Whore isn’t even a looker. Just a UK fattie who finds the biggest betas/omegas in the Empire.

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  23. “It’s a good thing you’re SOO far out of my league. Like, WAAAY up there [reach for the ceiling on your tip-toes]… otherwise I’d have to think about hitting on you.”

    No. Just no. I imagine that coming out of the mouth of a Todd Seavey type, all bitter and defensive. Ugh.

    [What part of “say it with a smile” didn’t you get?]

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  24. on October 21, 2010 at 1:37 pm rebelliousvanilla

    Harmonica, WTF? What do they see in her? I mean, it’s hard not to see her, but what to see in her?

    The guy in the middle is actually relatively cute in that picture. They should all sue for rape. 😛

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  25. You’ve implanted a mind and understanding in me, whole. Yesterday I opened an 18-year-old online with,

    “You are totally awesome.

    Totally.”

    Her: What makes you say that?

    Me: I don’t even know where to begin.

    And of course we’re moving along. Apparently she loves blowjobs 10 out of10 on a 10 scale and doesn’t mind that I’d fuck her anytime, anywhere.

    This man didn’t exist before I happened upon your original Yad video commentary. What a year.

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  26. “Maybe that’s why lots of hot girls have gay guy friends.

    Bitchy, sarcastic fags know how to play women I guess.”

    They don’t play women, they play women.

    “Do gay guys have more natural game with women than normal men?”

    it sure helps if half of your mind isn’t concerned about fucking them.

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  27. Herb sighting

    Segway Seduction

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  28. “When you get that jive going and you feel the flow back and forth as the sarcasm rolls of both of your tongues, you know you’re fucking later on.”

    @ari

    great description, and an awesome feeling when you realize “its on”

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  29. on October 21, 2010 at 2:29 pm The Real Vince

    The examples are terrible, but sarcasm is 95% performance anyway. Sarcasm is a kind of proof-reading for too-careless social gabbing; it’s also typically solid evidence of a good listener. It indicates: “I’m staring off into the distance, hardly even paying attention, but I get everything that’s being said. Now here’s a cutting remark.” As a karate expert I like clever, sarcastic girls, but they have to be sincere (and not too clever).

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  30. Ascending Alpha

    Wait, do Taiwanese girls react differently to sarcasm than Chinese?

    Yes, the Taiwanese won’t threaten you with economic destruction and nuclear retaliation.

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  31. I find that this sort of tactic works best when you approach by yourself.

    In order to pull the cocky, sarcastic, confident game on a girl I think being alone, in itself, shouts out that you’re alpha so your routine won’t come across as being rehearsed and will be more believable.

    Also, whenever I do this with buddies around I invariably get cockblocked by one of them. I think there is something deeply emasculating when a man has to watch his buddy or another man take a woman off a pedestal and build an attraction that is counter-intuitive to how they believe they should. I get nods of disapproval and snickers from my pussy friends whenever I try this approach. Even when its obviously working. All this is front of the girl! It makes me look like a creep and there’s really no way to recover from that.

    Whenever that happens I lose interest in the girl and basically just wanna yell at my buddies for being bitches.

    How would you deal with this?

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  32. ““Do gay guys have more natural game with women than normal men?”

    it sure helps if half of your mind isn’t concerned about fucking them.”

    If you are game is tight, you will display this same lack of concern, so in essence, you should match the gay males’ indifference.

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  33. you should match the gay males’ indifference.

    Just try to NOT match their lilting delivery and all-around fabulousness.

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  34. I’m glad alpha body language was listed as number 1 because that is more important than anything else and is what a lot of guys don’t realize. You do actually have to back up your words. Alpha words from a beta mean nothing.

    Sarcasm through messages and texts is tough, but can be done. One misinterpreted sarcastic comment can quickly end an interaction when there is no body language to back it up.

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  35. on October 21, 2010 at 3:01 pm rebelliousvanilla

    SN2, get better friends, for one. And no, a man going to a bar or club by himself isn’t alpha, he’s just creepy. lol

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  36. rebelliousvanilla,

    I don’t go to clubs by myself.

    I just don’t need a wingman when approaching girls. So, I’ll walk up alone. My friends can watch. Alpha.

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  37. on October 21, 2010 at 1:27 pm rebelliousvanilla

    I disagree about sarcasm being a turn off for women. It is only if they’re being idiotic and sarcastic all the time like the girl in the blog post you quoted to was. Answering a man who is sarcastic with another sarcastic comment is good in three ways:
    1)you can see if he is for real or is an idiot who read some sarcastic lined off the internet or if he losses composure
    2)you can provide a proper answer to what he said in a way that it allows him to make a funny-sexual comment in reply to what you said – if you like the guy
    3)if the two are sarcastic to each other, it can lead to great sex
    Obviously, sarcasm is a huge turn off if done in inappropiate times, about inappropiate things. For example, the girl in the link you have was stupid to be sarcastic about a man’s interests. I said on the other blog post of yours that we should take an interest in the interests of men if we are to gain relative value in the dating market. Being sarcastic to men’s interests is the opposite.

    I do agree about smoking, despite being a smoker(hopefully, my ten weeks plan will succeed and I will quit).

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  38. “Girls *love* sarcastic men”

    This should read:

    American Girls love sarcastic men.

    Sarcasm on Latina girls goes over like cigarette smoke at an Asmatics convention.

    Most times.

    – MPM

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  39. A guy out by himself is creepy? Why.
    What if he is new to town or has some interesting reason for being out alone that night, shit, at least he went out, by himself for that matter has to demonstrate alphaness alone. Do all women feel this way?

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  40. Roosh has written some good stuff on guys out by themselves.

    No its not creepy, but guys can mess it up by trying to make excuses for why they are out solo (for which most girls in DC will call you on). If you just say, I’m out by myself and what? Most girls dont think twice.

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  41. “[You’ve gotta be kidding. Unless you’re crippled with shyness, these lines are easy to say. Obviously, if you’re uncomfortable with the lines as written, you don’t have to say them word for word. The gist of it is what’s important.]

    No, the lines in the post have the right idea, but they are just way too wordy. The one I cited begins with “oh, yeah”… In real life, who actually ever says “on, yeah” to start a sentence. When I was in 11th grade creative writing I’m pretty sure my characters used “oh yeah” a lot though.

    [You’ve never heard “oh yeah” in a real life back-and-forth conversation? Were you born in the woods and raised by Nell?]

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  42. Rxman

    A guy out by himself is creepy? Why
    What if he is new to town or has some interesting reason for being out alone that night, shit, at least he went out, by himself for that matter

    to the superstitious peoples of Eastern Europe
    this means man is Nosferatu
    he is Wampyre

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  43. Females may fall for sarcasm but u should take not not to make ur sarcasm sound like an actual conversation, calling a pretty woman beautiful is like asking a tall person do the play basketball they hear it all the time and it gets annoying

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  44. if you think about it, sarcasm is just a more socially acceptable form of abuse. it can be used to great effect.

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  45. on October 21, 2010 at 4:24 pm rebelliousvanilla

    Rxman, pretty much. And it’s simple – going out by yourself means you went out to hit on women. Going out with friends means you went out to have fun.

    Since your purpose in that club is to hit on us, we have a lot more leeway. I thought it should be fairly obvious. If you go out by yourself, don’t go hit on women. Befriend people in that location first or something.

    SN2, that’s different. I thought you’re into going clubbing by yourself. lol

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  46. …and, of course, no reminder needed why eastern europeans girls smell like the garlic and hide in woods during menses —

    the undead – wampyre. Nosferatu

    mout

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  47. RV

    “If you go out by yourself, don’t go hit on women.”

    I’ve found it best to hit on women in large, well-formed, concerted packs, like wolves. Much better.

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  48. on October 21, 2010 at 4:31 pm Gunslingergregi

    My woman not usually sarcastic but sometimes her nipple will work its way out of her shirt at night and give me an attitude so then I got to lay down the law.

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  49. If a woman asks me why I’m out alone I say I’m trying to get laid.

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  50. Were you born in the woods and raised by Nell?

    I wonder what it’d be like to bone a chick like Nell. Would lack of mental faculties be compensated by an over-eager beaver?

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  51. When I go to the supermarket alone, I always announce to nearby ladies how I’m not there to hit on them. Because like RV said, a guy being alone is creepy. And when I’m driving alone and I come to a redlight, I always roll down my window and announce loudly to all the nearby female drivers, “It’s safe! I’m NOT here to hit on you! Go about your business!”. Because to not do so would be creepy.

    Jesus H. Christ RV, the women in bars and clubs are whores almost to the last. Most of them have put men’s cocks in their mouths in under an hour on multiple occasions. Do you really think a guy with game skills won’t be able to overcome the minor stigma of being alone with them?

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  52. Bars where I am you don’t even need game skills. How much game skills does it require to bone a slut? Pretty much zero.

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  53. Another: “Let me guess… you’re single.” They always are.

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  54. rebelliousvanilla – you seriously don’t think guys who go out in groups are doing it to get laid?

    Anyway, I’ve been alone out before, either because friends left or plans got cancelled or whatever. But girls do always ask “where are your friends”? I’ll usually say my friend got a call from his ex who wanted to bang, and I thought I’d stick around for a little. Women are irrational so lying to get the pussy can be necessary.

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  55. on October 21, 2010 at 5:44 pm Vincent Ignatius

    This all makes sense. The thing to be careful about is not appearing passive aggressive. A lot of people are sarcastic because they’re too afraid to be upfront with people who are annoying them.

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  56. Excellent post. Funny lines towards the end.

    We ladies do need to laugh more. If there is an insightful, witty/irreverent man who can (deflate egos) make a girl laugh its always attractive. It is fun. Not mean, harmful or hurtful.

    (deflate ego’s? I thought of that when queen bees and princess types are around. they scare me. today, a queen bee was working out and I so happened to interupt her highness while working out. me thin, her 60 ish overweight. she gave me dirty looks for an hour as I grinned ear to ear. thanks 4 letting me post from time 2 time)

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  57. No no, always hit on women as just one voice among many in a pack of like-minded lotharios. You will totally stand out, and it’s not creepy or beta to have a whole fucking posse of home boys on your wing in case a fearsome amazon puts up resistance. Girls only like Group Men anyway. Run with the herd. Peace out.

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  58. Just because a girl is bantering with you doesn’t mean she is IN to you. I know you guys would like to think so. Some of us are just natural at it cause we’ve been teased a lot growing up and when you’ve taken it, you can dish it. It becomes a natural way of communicating. It’s like building rapport. It starts with bantering, fun, fun, fun!! If we are into you, the more serious talk will …simply develop…..naturally.

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  59. Couldn’t figure out how to send an e-mail, so I thought I’d post this prime example of a shit test.

    Texting:

    me: hey lets go for that drink tomorrow

    her: hi!! I actually already have plans, sorry
    (note no attempt to reschedule)

    me: gay.

    her: my brother is gay but I suppose this is gay too.
    (shittest. chances were good she was bs’ing, but you have to assume shes not)

    me: oh ya? so is my cousin we should hook them up
    (lie)

    her: haha! I was just kidding, i just wanted to see how you would react
    (skank. but she might as well be telling me shes down for the cause)

    me: my cousin will be disappointed. when are you free this week

    [Editor: Good job dilla. You get it.]

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  60. @Firepower
    @Ascending Alpha

    “”Wait, do Taiwanese girls react differently to sarcasm than Chinese?

    Yes, the Taiwanese won’t threaten you with economic destruction and nuclear retaliation.””

    Sooooo smart..you’re right, how’d you know?

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  61. @Gorbachev

    Regarding Chinese, especially Hong Kong girls. They’re usually quite short and I”m quite tall. It’s something they often draw out:

    “Wow…I think you’re so tall, too tall for me…”

    ME: “And you’re short, did your parents forget to feed you?”

    Every single time…it’s the uncontrolable giggle, the tapping of my arm and the “Noooooooooooo”….I’m in.

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  62. @walawala
    @Gorbachev

    Regarding Chinese, especially Hong Kong girls. They’re usually quite short and I”m quite tall. It’s something they often draw out:

    “Wow…I think you’re so tall, too tall for me…”

    ME: “And you’re short, did your parents forget to feed you?”

    Every single time…it’s the uncontrolable giggle, the tapping of my arm and the “Noooooooooooo”….I’m in.

    Chinese girls love banter.

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  63. on October 21, 2010 at 6:59 pm The Rational Male

    rebelliousvanilla

    “Since your purpose in that club is to hit on us, we have a lot more leeway. I thought it should be fairly obvious. If you go out by yourself, don’t go hit on women. Befriend people in that location first or something.”

    By all means befriend people, but it’s not necessary to meeting women when you fly solo.

    I like hanging out with friends when I go out but I meet more women when I’m by myself. Probably because I don’t feel like I have an audience scrutinizing me.

    If a chick asks about your friends you can give just about any excuse as to why you are out alone. As long as it looks like you HAVE friends it doesn’t matter.

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  64. on October 21, 2010 at 7:02 pm Gunslingergregi

    It is wild to see confidence changes in real time.

    Good stuff.

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  65. I disagree that sarcasm is always a negative attribute in women. Sarcasm can be a negative attribute for both sexes, it just depends on how it’s delivered.

    Like under the link you posted. Yes that was negative sarcasm, but I don’t think that should be used as an example of “female sarcasm”. For examples of sarcasm from males that you posted, those were fine, but I’m sure that there are bad examples as well.

    I also don’t think that female sarcasm is evidence of or always an evidence of females having low self esteem, etc., etc.

    OT,
    …..but I think it’s funny how you use the word “girls” for females and “men” for males, as if 18-25 yr old females are girls. Yeah, yeah, maybe I’m nitpicking, but it’s something that stood out to me.

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  66. on October 21, 2010 at 7:20 pm alonzo portfolio

    The larger point is right that sarcasm is something to which women respond, but it’s all wrong to say that it’s something hot chicks often use. Their main weapon is eye-rolling in gangs. Sarcasm, though a somewhat low-ranked rhetorical tool, is actually beyond the ability of most hot chicks, who are usually not all that verbally adept.

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  67. on October 21, 2010 at 7:22 pm The Rational Male

    Renee

    “I disagree that sarcasm is always a negative attribute in women.”

    Any display of smugness in a woman is unattractive. Feminine women are sweet and demure.

    Lemme guess….you’re an American chick?

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  68. on October 21, 2010 at 7:49 pm The Quest For 50

    I’ve wondered about where to draw the line between “sarcastic” alpha and true, threatening alpha. I jokingly told a girl I was done with her and turned to walk away, and then turned right back to her. “You can’t even really do it,” she said. I guess that was the time to really walk away…

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  69. Jack, lying is beta. I hope CH agrees with me on that.

    [Editor: Depends if she finds out. Even then, it may not be beta. Clinton was busted for his lies and he handled it like a champ. Panties continued being thrown at him.]

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  70. on October 21, 2010 at 8:15 pm schfifty five

    This reminds me…

    I need suggestions for an online dating username. I dont want to use any of my real names…

    Im a creative person, but everything I think of seems pretty weak, or overly cocky…Im thinking something that conveys aloof I-dont-give-a-F attitude.

    What ya got?

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  71. “Osbert”

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  72. The delivery’s important. Sarcasm from a bitter beta, delivered in a faux-whiny voice and scowling face just reeks of failure, anti-charisma, poor character, a miserable unhappy fuck.

    Sarcasm with a smile – an “I get it” subtext – or drily delivered humour in the vein of Jack Dee, is gold.

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  73. Renee said:

    …..but I think it’s funny how you use the word “girls” for females and “men” for males, as if 18-25 yr old females are girls. Yeah, yeah, maybe I’m nitpicking, but it’s something that stood out to me.

    Darlin’, you’re ALL girls, regardless of age. And we are men. I dare say there’s a post or two regarding that distinction somewhere in the archives.

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  74. Renee:

    OT

    But it’s amazing how in countries like Russia or Hungary where ladies prefer to be called girls, the women are often hot, slim and well-spoken while in countries that get obsessed about feminist claptrap and insist on referring to 18 year old hamster-spinning teenagers as women, the females are predominantly over-entitled hippos with bad skin, no culture, and a future that often involves too many cats.

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  75. @CR
    “panties continue being thrown at him”
    My mom thinks he’s hot. He’s sleazy, but I like him.

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  76. There are smart, more effective sarcasms and there are simple rude insults . Here are two sarcasms. One works and the other sucks. Which one is the smart one? Why? Which one is the sucky one? Why? If you don’t know, you really don’t understand women.

    Here it is:

    “And you’re short, did your parents forget to feed you?”
    “Sorry, I have a rule against dating princesses.”

    The answer revealed later, if I want to..hehehe!!

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  77. Sorry. I didn’t quote you exactly right, but I don’t think it makes much of a difference.

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  78. Renee,
    I do that too. I sometimes call women in the 18-25 age group “girls” and yet I would never call men in that same age group boys. I don’t think women mind quite as much. My father in law still sometimes refers to me as a nice girl.

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  79. How to look as beta as possible with a bisexual wife

    http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Married-A-Bi-sexual/284281

    Nothing in there says he’s got a sex drive. It pretty much reads like a eunuch’s diary.

    Note to y’all. If your girl/wife is bisexual, ALWAYS play it in your favor. Either say no if you don’t like the idea, or exploit it for more pussy. NEVER seriously “support” her blindly like the beta. Like any other woman, she’ll dump your ass for being a chump.

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  80. My wife is 49, and I call her “girl”. “Good girl” if I am happy with something she has done.

    Daniel Rancour-Lafferiere writes about this in his book on evolution and sex. He says that women allow themselves to be called slightly derogatory names because it implies that the men who use the terms will be protective of them.

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  81. So let’s see here, Obama has reached out to minorities and women for the midterms.

    If only Republicans weren’t incompetent.

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  82. When you get to be a certain age, it’s nice to be called a girl. 🙂

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  83. @ David

    I do the same with my wife. I call her girl, good girl and all that when it’s positive, but I use “woman” when she’s getting uppity or doing something annoying. Ex. “quit tickling me, woman!”

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  84. Oh, I use a lot of “woman” when I want to talk down to her. I learned that from my father, who used to call my Mum “woman” when he was annoyed with her.

    My daughter has taken to calling my wife “woman” sometimes.

    But if my wife does something I like in bed, I may say, “good girl”.

    Sometimes she complains “I am a woman, not a girl”, to which I may respond “To me you will always be a girl.”

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  85. RV, you don’t think sarcasm is unsexy for a woman only because men don’t care what you’re saying.

    Enjoy it while it lasts. When you’re older or if “life happens”, your personality will matter a lot more.

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  86. @what

    yeah the “princesses” line would not work, at least with a girl who actually acts entitled. nothing is worse than an actual *direct* insult.
    if you’re just meeting the girl, you must deliver this stuff with irony (e.g. the princess line could work on a woman who’s the opposite — too shy) or with humorous deflection (did your parents forget to feed you).

    if you’ve been in a relationship for some time you can call a spade a spade, but still only on the *behavior* — no direct insults. i.e. “it’s bad when you *do* X” is ok, “it’s bad when you ARE X” not so ok.

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  87. This site is hilarious. I checked it out against my better judgment on the recommendation of a friend & can now see my original instincts were right.

    The talk of sarcasm or no sarcasm being attractive in women, your other articles about desperately trying to get the hottest, tightest girls. Jesus. You are all pathetic social climbers — I feel like I’m in an episode of Sex & the City but the male version and you’re all chasing the elusive Miss Big and scheming to get into her pants instead of getting a proposal.

    Do you really think guys who have it all concern themselves with these stupid issues? No one who was born wealthy would ever have such a ridiculous discussion. Men of my status marry a fairly attractive woman of similar social status, not the drop dead gorgeous babe you all seem hell-bent on aquiring (they’re never good for more than a side fuck, especially if they’re stupid or slutty, which most are).

    We look for a good woman who will raise our kids with good moral values, who’s smart enough to handle the family’s finances and business, probably went to a great school and came from a powerful family, and maybe screw around with the slut on the side when we feel like it. Beauty is one of the MANY factors to consider when settling down, and it’s not even close to being the most important. But I suppose that’s all you have in the middle to lower echelons. I know the women I date wouldn’t look at any of you social climbers twice.

    All of these contortions for beauty and youth are absolutely hilarious to me. All that work for a “prize” on your arm to prove your worth to other men. Those in real power are laughing at you.

    [Editor: Read some more of the blog. You sound ignorant. It’s been said here by the blog authors since almost day one that beauty and youth are a necessary but not sufficient condition for happy fulfilling long term relationships, including marriages.]

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  88. @schfifty five

    Sperm Count

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  89. A woman who makes an obvious EFFORT to stay looking good to her man can expect to receive in return the strongest thing he has – His undying Loyalty.
    But if she bleats out ,”Accept whatever I choose to do with my food addictions and fupa explosions because I am me”. She deserves to be left to her cats and eventual psychotic devolutions.
    Most men are incapable of leaving a woman who honors him by TRYING to remind him of who he married.
    Think Nancy Reagan. I bet her juice got splattered on the walls of the Lincoln bedroom.
    B. Bush, maybe not.

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  90. Its just been a day of cunts

    “What Anita Hill did for America”

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/10/21/greenberger.anita.hill/index.html?hpt=C2

    Other than prove that liberals are racists? Not much. Hussie just spoke lies upon lies against a man who is one of the best justices in decades.

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  91. hey!

    New here. Anyway. I love this blog and I usually agree with what you say, so I haven’t found a reason to post. But I have to say that in this case, you aren’t exactly right. Sarcasm is a turn-off for men when it is directed at *them.*

    I’ve actually been able to get men interested by exhibiting sarcasm and/or mild attitude if it isn’t related to anyone else. It can be a form of flirting.

    Recent example:

    Him: How’s life been treating you?
    Me: Great! Working all the time is awesome…

    This led to flirting. But I didn’t continue the sarcasm. Too bad I’m married.

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  92. Rum says, “A woman who makes an obvious EFFORT to stay looking good to her man can expect to receive in return the strongest thing he has – His undying Loyalty.”

    Loyalty yes. Sexuality, no.

    That’s just how the world works. Very few men can stay sexually attracted to a woman who becomes physically ugly to them, even if it wasn’t her fault.

    Many women who’ve gotten fat due to injuries or illnesses that caused inactivity, many women who’ve gotten cancer, and many who’ve been in car accidents, have learned this the hard way.

    If you can’t even handle a fupa, there’s no way you’d be able to deal with a coloscopy bag or a radical masectomy scar, or amputations.

    Let’s cut the crap here. You don’t care how a woman became ugly…especially if her type of ugly is socially inconvenient.

    I can’t believe someone in the giving me hell for being hypothyroid and not knowing about paleo 15 years ago crew, would lie like this.

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  93. Damn…colostomy bag. I’m too sleepy.

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  94. @Southern Man

    “Renee said:

    …..but I think it’s funny how you use the word “girls” for females and “men” for males, as if 18-25 yr old females are girls. Yeah, yeah, maybe I’m nitpicking, but it’s something that stood out to me.

    Darlin’, you’re ALL girls, regardless of age. And we are men. I dare say there’s a post or two regarding that distinction somewhere in the archives.”

    Disagree, Southern American English makes the distinction between “old boys”, males who have grown old without growing up and “that Man”, males who have grown old AND grown up and must be dealt with seriously and carefully. There are women who are referred to as “that Woman” as opposed to “girl” or “old girl” also in the same way, someone who needs to be dealt with carefully, they are just very, very rare.

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  95. @ Rum

    “Think Nancy Reagan. I bet her juice got splattered on the walls of the Lincoln bedroom.
    B. Bush, maybe not.”

    Peter Lawford wrote that Nancy Davis gave the best head in Hollywood and he should be a good judge of that.

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  96. This is new post material – Scientists discover that wolf cubs that were coddled in childhood end up producing fewer offspring:

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19604-coddled-male-wolf-cubs-father-fewer-pups.html

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  97. Gotta weigh in on the “girl” thing.

    I refer to any female that is sexually interesting to me as a “girl”, no matter what her age.

    For some odd reason, I seem to be most attractive to strong feminists. Not a single one has ever objected to being referred to as a girl, as long as it wasn’t in a professional setting (which I would never do).

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  98. Bravo!

    I didn’t know what those acronyms meant, but other than that, this was a very insightful and entertaining post.

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  99. looks like a tie between “spermcount” and “colostomybag”

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  100. I cringed reading the first sentence of this post. My parents are Nigerian and sarcasm is a very Nigerian thing (if you knew anything about Nigeria, you’d understand) and even though I’m American born and raised, I’ve always been sarcastic. But I read your original post on sarcasm and the type of women who use sarcasm (pessimistic and those with low self-esteem), and the description fit me like a glove. I guess I have some work to do. Great psychoanalysis.

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  101. Don’t know if sarcasm game would work effectively against s**t tests from those lovely, charming, modest and sweet Russian, EE, Balkan or Baltic girls. Would probably get a “Vat did you say?” accompanied by a bewildered look.

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  102. celimene, and you base that on nightly shrieks of eagles, tea leaves or what?

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  103. @Bling Bing

    Jack, lying is beta. I hope CH agrees with me on that.

    >>>>

    Bling Bing, this entire site condones and high fives dudes lying.
    I don’t think it’s Beta though. Betas tend to blurt out wrongdoing.

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  104. The Rational Male,

    Any display of smugness in a woman is unattractive. Feminine women are sweet and demure.

    Lemme guess….you’re an American chick?

    Yes I am American, but I’m never smug myself….

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  105. @sin barreras
    @what

    “yeah the “princesses” line would not work”

    I totally agree. This line is dangerous. Plus, what girl will actually admit to being a princess, so in any case is an insult.

    The other line is actually cute and funny. The girl knows she’s short, so what, so her parents not feeding her is hilarious. Also, the correlation between feeding and stunting growth is also great! I would laugh for sure and think the guy is totally funny and witty!

    alpha star to you!!! hehe!!

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  106. If sarcasm is unattractive to men, why do women do it?

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  107. @soothsayer:

    You are a classic case of projection. You are projecting your own status concerns onto other people. Not everyone is as obsessed with status as you are.

    And you’ve completely missed the point of the blog. Its not to find someone to marry, its to get laid more often with more attractive girls. Marriage is for chumps, as our host has explained many times. If you were familiar with this blog you would know why so many of us are against marriage.

    Like most men, I am attracted to women mainly by their youth and physical beauty. Their social and family background, education, and careers mean very little to me. I like to bang young, hot women because thats what I enjoy doing, not to show them off or impress other men. I really don’t care what other men think.

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  108. off topic-
    i was at starbux today at around 10am-noon by brown university and on laptop at a bar type table/stool overlooking out the window and someone taps me and says excuse me, i turn and she asks me to help her with her internet. i glanced at her window and saw no wireless connections so i says well i got a bunch here on mine, how do you usually connect online? she says, “its usually automatic.”

    i suggested she reboot and she did. I took a phone call and after 15-20 min went to br and when i came back noticed she got it working. i broke right into this 9/10 latina and saw what looked like a jos a bank website or some shit, a bunch of donkeys wearing suits. So, I said,

    Me: hey you got it working. What are you shopping for a suit? Her: no…
    Me. I cut her off and I said is that for Halloween costume or something?
    Her: No, (laughs) Points at the title and says its for some company website.
    Me: Ok I never heard of them what is it.
    Her: IP..i AM APPLYING
    Me: Ah, intellectial property. Are you a lawyer?
    Her: (laughs). No, I am a PhD/Phd student?

    I am not sure which she said. prob student because she seemed to be same ageas me (25)

    Me: Good luck
    Her: Thanks (smile)

    Phone call- one fckin hr long. I noticed her leave after maybe 45 minutes and sit at a table behind us and sit across some donkey beta. I didnt even get a good look, but I overheard them talking in spanish. When I finished my call I looked back and there were 2 fatties sitting there.

    Was this all a dream since I had not slept for 36 hours at that point, or 50 hrs with no sleep as I am writing this post now at work or did I actually get lucky with a girl who seemed to make it real easy for me. I had good eye contact for whatever short the interaction was, and when I looked into her deep eyes I think she felt alpha fucked and jizzed in her pants for that one second. Or was the whole internet thing a shit test?
    I guess I will never know until I another encounter at which point I plan to ask her out on a date or do a venue change to the mall (halloween costume shopping maybe?) and then fuck the shit out of her while she wears the costume, and then have her pivot for me on halloween and/or fuck the shit out of her once again. She def seems like LTR potential, but way too soon to tell.
    Pretty, genuine, smart. Not a lawyer cunt yet. Any suggestions for next encounter if there is one.

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  109. Online sarcasm can go either way depending on if the person knows you. For instance, A radio personality I know posted this on her face book:

    I have pretty much accepted the fact that I’m a hell-raiser! Yeeeep, my tongue is sharp, my words are sarcastic, I’d prefer to lead and not follow, I’ll start a rebellion in a nano-second, I can be bytchy if needed Annnnd I’ll go from debutante to disaster in t minus 30 seconds! *Sigh* to know me is to love me!

    And my response was :

    With all that going for you, you must be happily married right?

    She responded with :

    Simon you better be glad I like u! It’s just another side of me that emerges when I’ve had more than enough!

    After that 4 women from her friends list tried to add me as a friend. Online sarcasm for the win. But a few people tried to call me out for being “mean”

    [Editor: “Mean” = truthful. You hit the right note.]

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  110. […] Chateau – “The Forager/Farmer Thesis is Wrong“, “Why So Serious?“, “Fat and Happy Girl is Fat and Happy“, “Compare and Contrast: Two Bitter Ex-Lovers“, “Sarcastically Disqualifying Girls” […]

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  111. on October 25, 2010 at 12:14 am Queen Sara the Great

    If you’re encountering numerous shit tests, it’s highly apparent that you’re asking for it. Begging in fact. You can hardly wait for the shit test so you can impress others and congratulate yourself on your brilliant responses.

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  112. I like this sarcastic neg (I believe it’s from Mystery) when introducing a girl you’ve just met to friends…

    “This is ____, she’s funny, smart, cute, can you believe she’s never had a boyfriend??”

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  113. Queen Sara the Great

    If you’re encountering numerous shit tests, it’s highly apparent that you’re asking for it. Begging in fact.

    Now, where I heard that argument before? Aah, right, it was about rape. “She begged for it.”

    Overwrought? Well, a different level of interaction, no doubt, but the principle underlying both is the same.

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  114. @ Simon

    I think the four additional women Facebook-friended you because of the social proof (a radio personality stating that she liked you) more than as a reaction to your sarcasm, but that was definitely a good neg.

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  115. OP mad because girls are being mean to him, lmao

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  116. After months of no communication to this seemingly ADD, grrl-child, that I made out with on night one during new years, i get an out the blue text:

    “when r u coming back to town?”

    [I live just under 2hrs from her]

    given the utter randomness of the text, presumably ADD is on a post-break-up search for the bone.

    now having followed this site…i did not immediately text back. I should have waited a day. But I waited a (what in retrospective) was a few minutes and wrote:

    “depends you requesting or inquirying?”

    ADD-girl does not respond immediately. probably got a booty call. Later that AM, 10 hours later, near 5am, im up and she’s doing bookFace chat banter. She does not answer my text question. For some reason the signal goes down.

    i wait a day & send her a bookFace message the next day. she replies a full day later (this ADD is so annoying), asking:

    “Give me a call.”

    A day later, I call her. No answer. I suspect she hears the phone. Clearly she sees my number at some point. Normally I don’t leave messages. I left one:

    “Call me back. You know my number.”

    A day later no text or return call from ADD-grrl.

    Two days later I pen some meaninglesss drivel on bookFace:

    “Awk. awk. awk.—its a bird… looking for [you] at the ocean…”

    THREE days later ADD message replies:

    “You’re a weirdo. I got your message. I’m not going to make it to the event. But give a shout if you’re out and about after.”

    (I note that she has returned the call. Are kids really this fucking nutso…I digress.)

    Now I am thinking ADD, is either really suffering from ADD, or more likely on and off the break-up cock, or she’s the “weirdo”

    So I waiting almost two hours later, and offer:

    “You have problems with weirdos? Event is done at 9. we’ll definitely go somewhere…You have my # amiga:

    ###-555-1234. Use it if you feel obliged.”

    The next AM, presumably before she goes to work, she pens:

    “I’ll give you a call.”

    ••••
    I know this game ain’t over. And I am not in hot pursuit…but she did edit a sex magazine–so she claimed. So I’m playing long, in search of the inner freak.

    (where we are she’s an 8; in a city, if she didn’t clean up and suit-up properly –heels, cleavage, etc.– she’d be peer-reduced to a low to mid-7. but the sex work might compensate.)

    Further analysis & advice requested.

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