Why Whiter People Love Public Transit But Hate The Bus

Knife-wielding man beheads fellow passenger on bus.
 

A passenger traveling on a bus across Canada’s vast Western plains stabbed, gutted and decapitated a man seated next to him in an unexplained attack, a witness told media Thursday.

The victim had been sleeping before he was repeatedly stabbed in the chest by a man with a large knife, witness Garnet Caton told public broadcaster CBC.

The other 35 passengers and driver were jolted by “blood-curdling screams” and fled. “He must have stabbed him 50 times or 60 times,” said Caton.

When Caton and two others returned to check on the victim, he said they saw the attacker “cutting the guy’s head off and gutting him.”

“While we were watching … he calmly walked up to the front (of the bus) with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stared at us and dropped the head right in front of us.”

It isn’t bad enough that status-striving whiter people who routinely sing the praises of mass transit but make the mistake of following their self-congratulatory morality to riding the bus have to deal with snoring, stinky, pus-dripping, hacking, nose-picking, nail-biting, farting, leering, grunting, grossly obese degenerates. Now they’ve got to add knife-wielding homicidal beheaders to their list of unsavory characters who ride the bus.

What’s a holier-than-thou dillweed to do? Buy a Prius!

Or price out the degenerates and take the $200 roundtrip Amtrak.

On a related note, isn’t it great how the DC cabbies got around the meter system by charging a $4 base fare as soon as you get in the cab? That’s $1.50 more than New York’s taxi base fare, where the cost to operate a cab is a lot higher. End result: You’re paying about the same as you did under the zone system for short distance travel within DC. Sneaky fuckers.





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  1. Screw that! You can have the bus!

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  2. The Second Amendment really needs to get re-elevated to be on par with the First Amendment. That way, there would have been at least two carrying folks (statistically speaking) on the bus and the moment the pyscho raised the knife a well-placed bullet would have ended the crime.

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  3. in addition to its many wonderful qualities (uh…the panoramic view?) i should add that the greyhound is well-known as an easy way to ship large quantities of contraband across the country unchecked. it would also be easy to stick, say, a machete in your unchecked carry-on luggage.

    i once awoke, on the greyhound bus, to an elderly man attempting to lick my sandalled foot. its the absolute worst way to travel.

    never again.

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  4. #2 El Guapo

    Yes, I agree, but this took place in Canada and so your recommendation is inoperative.

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  5. 2: except that this took place in Canada.

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  6. Beheaded and gutted? Maybe the attacker had been out hunting, and in a delusionary moment thought the victim was a deer. He probably would’ve carved a nice rib roast if he had the time.

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  7. on July 31, 2008 at 7:06 pm Old Ben Kenobi

    The bus between DC and NYC or NYC and Boston is not bad at all. Plenty of them even have internet connections now.

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  8. “Knife-wielding man beheads fellow passenger on bus.”

    Race, religion, national origin? The article doesn’t say. Of course.

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  9. on July 31, 2008 at 7:39 pm Patrick Bateman

    Race, religion, national origin? The article doesn’t say. Of course.

    I know what you’re getting at, but this type of shit is usually done by white people.

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  10. So what’s the prob? Our tax code has been gutted and plundered and it does more damage than one murder and nobody ever does anything about it.

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  11. on July 31, 2008 at 7:42 pm Gunslingergregi

    Great so now some fag is gonna make a law you have to go through a metal detector to get on a bus because one guy out of 450 million or so got gutted. See how this works. I could see changeing the law if the guy ate him but he didn’t.

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  12. I noticed another news article that gave the ethnicity of the victim (minority) and a full description of the attacker, short of anything that might give away his ethnicity.

    I don’t know about Canada, but in Finland all crimes are commited by someone with either blue eyes or eyes of no particular color, blonde hair or hair of no particular color, Western clothes or no clothes worth mentioning…

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  13. I used to ride the Metrobus between College Park and Hyattsville some ten years ago. I remember the regulars:

    Tuberculosis Woman, hacking her lungs our behind me. OCD Man, eating his breakfast out of an array of small tupperware boxes, but not before he re-arranged them several times while muttering. And as a late evening treat, The Ancient Protstitute, in her hot pink nylons every time.

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  14. Jaalleli,

    How far along the multiculti deluge is Finland?

    I spent two days in Helsinki in 2001, did tons of walking around the city, rode buses, shopped, and I don’t recall even once seeing somebody who didn’t look Finnish or heard a language that didn’t sound like Finnish or Swedish.

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  15. sorry about the typo Jaakkeli

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  16. on July 31, 2008 at 8:02 pm Usually Lurking

    PA, AFAIK, Finland is one of the best countries for the multi-culti PC garbage. That is , compared to other European countries.

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  17. on July 31, 2008 at 8:03 pm Usually Lurking

    By best, I mean, they are still very Finnish…if you know what I mean.

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  18. The Finns kicked Stalins ass. Look it up. Very Alpha.

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  19. I spent two days in Helsinki in 2001, did tons of walking around the city, rode buses, shopped, and I don’t recall even once seeing somebody who didn’t look Finnish or heard a language that didn’t sound like Finnish or Swedish.

    That would be next to impossible today. We then had a government with tough-headed realists, but that has changed for one that is massively delusional even by multiculti standards. It’s a deluge, they’re talking about importing millions of people and preparing Finns for being a minority. The crimethink authorities are getting ever bolder. We probably made a record of some kind by giving a guy over two years in jail for wackass racist blogs, Muhammed cartoons and other assorted internet “activism”. (Not that I have much sympathy for wackass racism, but two years is more than you get for child rape here!)

    Our immigration minister is a Swedish feminist… nuff said

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  20. I was once on the Greyhound back from NYC. The fucker in the seat behind me shot some heroin. I haven’t taken it since. If you wanna sip on your 40 on the bus, that’s one thing. But this is different…

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  21. I used to ride the bus in Manhattan for my short commute to work because the clientele were always more genteel and upscale than the subways. Everyone that lives in my neighborhood is pretty well off so its a pleasent ride but you couldn’t pay me enough for a long ride up into harlem or the bronx, and forget about greyhound. I’ve switched to riding a motorcycle to work but I see alot people on vespas in NYC.

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  22. Roissy – you may not agree here but in some ways you say people are animals and so right you are. Of course stabbing people is crazy and some people are certainly crazy, but going “head to head” (sorry) with the crazy guy here could create some kind of poetic justice…

    So please in a situation like THIS pardon my projecting a scenario onto your friend JEETS here. (I don’t know you or him at all ) as he comes to mind as your “wildest” friend.

    Perhaps your friend JEETS might take the severed head and bash in this maniacs head with it. From the alpha standpoint – the best way to handle a maniac is to get right back “maniac” in their face, but using superior skills and reflexes and in a situation like this anything that is handy – like the severed head .

    I have no idea if he is that crazy – but I’m sure it may add some comments! ha ha

    Myself I don’t like to fight – but when it comes down to it – if I had too it would be all out and not pretty if some nutjob was stabbing the guy next to me. I wouldn’t do the head thing but maybe Jeets would? ahahahahahaha

    *whenever I come back from the beach I let myself write in any direction for a while* hope u like it

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  23. We probably made a record of some kind by giving a guy over two years in jail for wackass racist blogs, Muhammed cartoons and other assorted internet “activism”.

    Is it then fair to say that Finland now has political prisoners?

    I believe this is already true about the UK.

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  24. If this guy isn’t a paranoid schizophrenic I’ll be shocked. But anything’s possible. I guess Canada went down the same sorry road we did in the States regarding mentally ill people. Close the institutions, throw them in the street and let them self medicate. Regarding the discussion about Finland, In 50 years it sounds like Europe isn’t going to be European anymore. Sad to think the self-loathing white liberals are winning. We have a big problem with them in America too, but we’re not nearly so far down the track as Europe, so there’s still some hope. After all, we get to own guns here. Even in DC now. *he he he*

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  25. PA, I suppose so.

    Unfortunately, our first political prisoner makes a sucky martyr. I’ve never seen anyone with such a creative talent for hateful filth anywhere on the net. And that’s something.

    Not that we’re not in good company. Belarus, I hear, has also jailed people for Muhammed cartoons.

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  26. @2 guapo

    we don’t want guns. there is a reason why Canada has far less murders per-capita in major cities than american cities.

    the last thing I want is some redneck taking matters into his own hands, shooting on the bus, and missing someone. or, more realistically, if the laws were different up here that psycho would have been carrying guns instead of a knife..

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  27. on July 31, 2008 at 10:01 pm posting again -- first time did not post

    @2 guapo

    we don’t want guns. there is a reason why Canada has far less murders per-capita in major cities than american cities.

    the last thing I want is some redneck taking matters into his own hands, shooting on the bus, and missing someone. or, more realistically, if the laws were different up here that psycho would have been carrying guns instead of a knife..

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  28. Paleocons don’t have their talking points straight today. Roissy says whiterpeople like the bus, Sailer says they don’t…?

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-contribution-to-stuff-white-people.html

    Hint: Light rail

    Sailer: 1
    Roissy: 0

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  29. they’re talking about importing millions of people and preparing Finns for being a minority

    The Great Crimes of the 20th century:

    National Socialism (1933 – 1945)
    Communism (1917 – 1991 + minor holdouts)
    Population Replacement (1945 – ?)

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  30. on July 31, 2008 at 10:11 pm posting again -- first time did not post

    @3 fine

    you a guy or a girl?

    eeew..

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  31. Or price out the degenerates and take the $200 roundtrip Amtrak.

    Yeah, I gotta admit, that’s why I like and support bourgeois Amtrak. The high prices chase away the unwashed masses to Greyhound or Chinabus, and ensures a healthy mix of Trustafarians and hot women.

    The only ugly folks on Amtrak are the railfans like myself…

    The Second Amendment really needs to get re-elevated to be on par with the First Amendment.

    I’d prefer to live in a country where I don’t have to carry a gun around to deal to protect myself from other crazy and violent people with guns.

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  32. 27, yes, we all know the drill. Those gun-toting rednecks have ruined inner city America. If I ever visit the Great Satan’s most crime-ridden urban hellholes, I know that I need to avoid white people.

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  33. on July 31, 2008 at 11:11 pm Gunslingergregi

    jaakkeli
    they’re talking about importing millions of people and preparing Finns for being a minority

    Here we are worrying about sex and it is not just that but the entire breakup of culture that is happening. How about that. Wish you guys luck.

    Someone else obviously needs to take over the reighns.
    This shit is out of control. So not a phenomenon in one shithole city its really world wide or trying to be. Guess world war iii not needed there tearing the shit apart anyway.

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  34. on July 31, 2008 at 11:13 pm Patrick Bateman

    there is a reason why Canada has far less murders per-capita in major cities than american cities.

    Racial composition explains most of the difference. Admitting this doesn’t make you a racist, it’s okay to take off the blinders.

    Everyone that lives in my neighborhood is pretty well off so its a pleasent ride but you couldn’t pay me enough for a long ride up into harlem or the bronx, and forget about greyhound.

    I grew up in the south Bronx and though it felt normal as a kid, I admit that I feel uneasy whenever I have to go back now. I once took the subway up there with a friend, and by the time we reached Yankee stadium, I was the lightest and he the 2nd lightest person in the car by many shades. The Dominicans really darkened up my old neighborhood.

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  35. Could be just an image problem and some bad logic, Roissy. Have we ever seen documented evidence that Greyhound is so terrible compared to Amtrak or a plane trip?

    I haven’t. And anecdotes sure aren’t “evidence”

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  36. The Finns kicked Stalins ass. Look it up. Very Alpha.

    Not bad. The Poles kicked Lenin’s ass in 1920.

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  37. If you encounter and unarmed psycho (knives don’t count) and you are in a car, you always have the option of running over them.

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  38. @29.

    i’m a girl. i don’t know if that makes it better…or worse.

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  39. Have we ever seen documented evidence that Greyhound is so terrible compared to Amtrak or a plane trip?

    Yeah, really! Why, on the last 100 plane trips I’ve taken, it’s been routine to see homeless people — reduced fares to ship the homeless problem to another state? I don’t know, but somehow they, along with unemployable drug-addicts and psychotic gay prostitutes, have found a way into my cabin.

    Based on most of the comments here, I swear, it’s like our schools are failing to teach critical thinking.

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  40. And then Stalin kicked Hitler and everyone else’s ass in 1943-45.

    I took Greyhound across the country when I was 19. Ummm, entertaining experience. When you’re 19. Lucky not to sleep next to any homicidal maniacs. I tried to stay in the front of the bus…the ex-cons tend to congregate in back.

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  41. ATC:
    Roissy says whiterpeople like the bus,

    no, i wrote they *say* they like the bus as method of public transit, but in reality try to avoid using the bus at all costs because they don’t really like to rub elbows with the dregs they use as moral canes to thwack the wrong kind of white people with.

    please, people, let’s try to keep up.

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  42. Why so serious?

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  43. Why so serious?

    because… you complete me.

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  44. jaakkeli, haha.

    Belarus jailed somebody over Muhammad cartoons? wow.

    I think Belarus and Ukraine are the most racist European countries Ive ever seen, you can get seriously hurt if you happen to be wrong shade at wrong hours/place 😀

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  45. @29 PA

    Population replacement isnt always bad, do you dislike Polish repatriates 😀 ? Many of them were able to return after 91.

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  46. on August 1, 2008 at 4:13 am Steve Johnson

    “I think Belarus and Ukraine are the most racist European countries Ive ever seen, you can get seriously hurt if you happen to be wrong shade at wrong hours/place”

    Is that the standard for racism?

    Because I don’t think it implies what you think it implies.

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  47. Racial composition explains most of the difference. Admitting this doesn’t make you a racist, it’s okay to take off the blinders.

    Percentage Black & Murder Rate per 100,000 in 2006

    New Hampshire: 1.05% black / 1.7 murders per capita
    Maine: .77% black / 2.0 murders per capita
    Vermont: .76% black / 1.9 murders per capita
    Iowa: 2.5% black / 1.9 murders per capita
    North Dakota: .85% black / 2.2 murders per capita
    South Dakota: .8% black / 1.2 murders per capita

    For Comparison Purposes Per Statistics Canada (2006)
    Quebec: 2.5% black / 1.22 murders per capita
    Ontario: 3.9% black /1.54 murders per capita
    Nova Scotia: 2.2 black / 1.71 murders per capita

    I’ll also add that while Toronto’s population is 8% black (1.8 murders per capita), somehow, it manages to be have a lower murder rate than 10% black Seattle (5.1 murders per capita) or 6% black Portland (3.7 murders per capita).

    I’ll leave the reader to determine the magical factor…

    i wrote they *say* they like the bus as method of public transit, but in reality

    No, it’s because buses are slow as fuck, noisy, and ride like crap. Hell, if DC would replace some of their bus routes with streetcars, you’ll magically see the whiter people who love transit…

    Is that the standard for racism?

    I’d personally love to go visit Eastern Europe, but unless I go escorted with a native male, I have no faith in my personal security at the hands of the locals, especially if I go into Russia or Ukraine…

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  48. on August 1, 2008 at 5:02 am SovereignAmericanMale

    Meanwhile, back in the good ol USA…

    Lesbian Gangs Raping Young Girls, Some Attacked in School Washrooms

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1860470/posts

    4-Year-Old Killed for Refusing to Call Mom’s Lesbian Lover “Daddy”

    h t t p://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06032407.html

    Why is the mainstream media not giving this fair play?

    GLBT can do no wrong in the Big Three’s eyes.

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  49. on August 1, 2008 at 5:07 am SovereignAmericanMale

    Of course, the second happened in South Africa.. but it could have just as easily been the US.

    This is referring to a short length post #48 awaiting moderation approval.

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  50. @47 DA

    “New Hampshire: 1.05% black / 1.7 murders per capita
    Maine: .77% black / 2.0 murders per capita
    Vermont: .76% black / 1.9 murders per capita
    Iowa: 2.5% black / 1.9 murders per capita
    North Dakota: .85% black / 2.2 murders per capita
    South Dakota: .8% black / 1.2 murders per capita

    For Comparison Purposes Per Statistics Canada (2006)
    Quebec: 2.5% black / 1.22 murders per capita
    Ontario: 3.9% black /1.54 murders per capita
    Nova Scotia: 2.2 black / 1.71 murders per capita

    I’ll also add that while Toronto’s population is 8% black (1.8 murders per capita), somehow, it manages to be have a lower murder rate than 10% black Seattle (5.1 murders per capita) or 6% black Portland (3.7 murders per capita).

    I’ll leave the reader to determine the magical factor…”

    Thanks for taking the time to dig those up. I’d like to point out that our blackest provinces have similar murder rates to Maine, one the US’ whitest states.

    It’s not predominantly race. It’s guns, and people being stupid with them.

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  51. Yow. A rural Canadian run is the last place I’d expect to encounter a bus psycho. The good thing is that it wasn’t black-on-white in LA. The jury would probably acquit based on the forty witnesses being racially biased. … I actually used Greyhound recently when I wasn’t in a hurry. There just aren’t any more circus freak shows, so I regarded it as cheap entertainment. What was funny was when I made a beeline to the window seat next to a cute asian girl when there were still a couple of empty aisle seats. She was pissed (didn’t say anything to me, just swore under her breath) and tried to change seats, but the bus was filling so fast, she had to come back and sit next to me again. It was a long trip and I never said a word or even looked over at her. When I disembarked (my stop came before hers) she flashed a wan smile as if to say “You ended up being an ideal seatmate…gawd, I hope your replacement is as polite as you!”

    3 finefantastic “Its the absolute worst way to travel. Never again.”
    Ah, for the good old days before airlines were affordable and psychos were unusual on a Greyhound.

    8 Whatever “Race, religion, national origin? The article doesn’t say. Of course.”
    If a Canadian media source specified it and the perp (er, alleged assailant) wasn’t white, the Canadian “Human Rights Commission” would be all over them. Seriously. It would be “fomenting hate.”

    11 Gunslingergregi “Great so now some fag is gonna make a law you have to go through a metal detector to get on a bus”
    There are handheld metal detectors in use at some big-city stations. BTW, Greyhound can still be ridden without ID if you’re paying cash.

    26 Anonymous “we don’t want guns. there is a reason why Canada has far less murders per-capita in major cities than american cities.”
    Hmm, let me think. Maybe it’s because Canada is full of…Canadians? Move the population of LA to Toronto (or Tokyo) and I suspect things would be different. And yes, they’d have guns. Outlaws aren’t very good about obeying laws.

    35 GVChamp “Could be just an image problem and some bad logic, Roissy. Have we ever seen documented evidence that Greyhound is so terrible compared to Amtrak or a plane trip? I haven’t. And anecdotes sure aren’t evidence.”
    GVchamp, presuming you didn’t say that just to stir things up, to those of us who have ridden the dog lately that is funny . You don’t even need to ride the damn thing, just go to a Greyhound station and have a look in the waiting area. To steal a line from Seinfeld, “It’s a LEPER colony down there!”

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  52. Ive always had a car as far back as 16, so Ive never needed to ride a bus.

    However, Ive noticed the racial composition in some of the buses that have been idle and ones that Ive driven by. I can tell you that once would be all Id ever be willing to ride one.

    I have “primitive” instincts when it comes to be outnumbered by other people who might want to do me harm. Would I be afraid to board a bus in Tokyo full of Asians. No, of course not. But being outnumbered by inner-city blacks or heavily tatooed hispanics and being outnumbered by cosmipolitian Asians are two different things, and Im not going to insult anyone’s intelligence explaining the difference.

    People are going to leave places where they instinctively know they are not safe. People will not go to places that they’d LIKE TO GO because they fear they may not be safe. In our state, the State Fair was once a “big deal” and I can honestly say that during my boyhood, I had some of the best times of my childhood there with my parents and my friends that we brought along. Would I bring my little brood to the fair nowadays? No. There are some fights and some gang activity and we’d be ethnically outnumbered pretty badly now, so we drive to a mega theme park once a year in the summer. I’ll go out of my way to avoid potential dangerous conflict, like any rational adult human being. In a nutshell, this is why whites avoid the bus.

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  53. Raphael, they gave *3 years* for publishing the Muhammed cartoons:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1812262620080118

    Of course, it’s Belarus. They jail journalists for fun. It’s likely that they had also published an article about the size of Mr. Dictator’s penis or something and this was the excuse.

    Funny to see the big media and the human rights people talking about “abuse of hate speech laws”. If someone claimed that Canadian hate speech laws could be abused some day, they’d be derided for hate speech…

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  54. Population replacement isnt always bad, do you dislike Polish repatriates? Many of them were able to return after 91.

    I’m not sure I understand that question. By population replacement I mean the governing elites’ practice of inviting large numbers of people from unrelated countries to settle in their country.

    This in effect displaces the host country’s own native population and is normally accompanied by a bombardment of propaganda of the “celebrate diversity” sort and political correctness laws that are more (EU, U.K.) or less (U.S.) oppressive in nature.

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  55. me @ 53

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  56. I’d personally love to go visit Eastern Europe, but unless I go escorted with a native male

    Always a good idea, especially if you stand out in a crowd as a foreigner. I also once advised Roissy to befriend a local guy on his trip to Poland.

    The thing about Eastern European countries, is that people tend to be very hospitable and happy to have a foreigner see their country in a positive light. The key thing to keep in mind, though, is that hospitality is extended to people who are perceived as visitors, not as settlers or invaders.

    Of course, standard rules of common sense in avoiding robbery or assult apply.

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  57. Guys, this stupidity of short-sighted elites isn’t even limited to self-loathing white liberals. Even Mugabe has decided that it’s a bright idea to force a massive number of alien immigrants on the population – in fact, lots of African dictators have now decided to import masses of Chinese to build stuff for them.

    Of course, diversity there will work perfectly and without conflict since no racist white people are involved.

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  58. on August 1, 2008 at 12:56 pm SovereignAmericanMale

    @53 Anonymous

    This in effect displaces the host country’s own native population and is normally accompanied by a bombardment of propaganda of the “celebrate diversity” sort and political correctness laws that are more (EU, U.K.) or less (U.S.) oppressive in nature.

    The real problem lies within introducing an insular group into a standing different population of the land area.

    If the new group does not merge into the culture of the first, then racial-culture competition for resources breaks out, spawning profound malcontent.

    Its clear from the rioting in France the Islamic groups will not blend and seek to remain islands of separatism. While demanding equal access to the same resources, they expect to live under a separate legal system called Sharia.

    In rural and suburban Texas, we have a folk remedy for dealing with an invasive specie of ants. They are called “fire ants”.

    Take two men, and two shovels and go to a pair of nests. Dig in with the shovels at the two separate nests and then quickly switch places. Dump the full shovel loads of fire ants on each of the two disturbed mounds.

    They will go into open warfare with each other, and hunt down each other’s queens and kill them.

    End result: dead nests in days.

    Ask yourself: Are we in a culture war/s and with whom, and for who’s benefit?

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  59. on August 1, 2008 at 12:58 pm Patrick Bateman

    @47 and 50
    You have to look at dense population centers. I admit that this explains some of the difference and I neglected that. BTW, black and white are not the only racial and ethnic groups.

    City/% Black/% Hispanic/Robberies per 100,000/Homicides per 100,000
    Ottawa 3.3 ? 88 1.5
    Toronto 6.9 2 108 2
    Montreal 7.7 3.4 148 1.5

    Baltimore 64 1.7 638.5 44
    Washington 55 8.2 552 36
    Boston 25 14 419 10

    Of course the trend isn’t perfect but it’s unquestionably there. Furthermore, the substructure of the Hispanic population is important. Racially, Argentines have more in common with white Americans than the average Mexican or Dominican.

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  60. Another decapitation.

    Remorseless murderer: “I should’ve tossed the suitcase in the river.” He murdered her, went to a party afterwards, then took pictures of the crime scene on his cell phone.

    In other news, some black girl in the military got raped, brutalized, and shot and set on fire, and they declared it suicide.

    What affects men affects women, and what affects women affects men. Human compassion does not — and should not — choose based on gender.

    The consensual hallucination that is our civilization is breaking down. Some people are seeing what power they can grab for themselves, their sights set on the most short-term gratification possible, and then afterwards they do whatever it takes to cover it up or exculpate themselves.

    Women’s self-entitlement, divorce theft and foolish choices in general are parts of it, but the breakdown in civilized behavior is happening more and more often everywhere. The shackles that were keeping a lot of people back from their blacker natures — like religion, family, community, courtesy and social norms — are unraveling. Things are getting worse.

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  61. Stay off the bus. Lots of blacks on the bus. Blacks are violent, so be careful.

    http://www.examiner.com/a-1089067~Students_beat_woman_on_city_bus__police_say.html

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  62. #60 Hope-
    An white Irish-American woman from MA was also declared a suicide in Iraq under less than clear circumstances. It seems to be the way it goes when a woman dies there.

    Percentage of minority population is historically under-reported, especially aliens trying to escape detection by the Man. The mayor of Boston believes that the city’s minority population is undercounted, and he’s trying to make the Census Bureau add to the total so they can get more aid.

    Maine and New Hampshire, held up as examples of the “whiter” states, are in fact now teeming with minorities being priced out of Greater Boston. Section 8 housing vouchers have made these people more portable, and they would obviously choose to get out of the shitholes of Roxbury and Mattapan. But as the Atlantic story American Murder Mystery shows, crime is also portable.

    The humor for a lifelong MA resident is that welfare in New Hampshire and Maine has historically been a bus ticket to Boston, and now the exodus has been reversed.

    FYI-the bus killer is named Vince Weiguang Li. I would be willing to guess that he’s not Caucasian.

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  63. The thing about cutting off someones head on public transportation is that there is no way
    to make it a “win/win” scenario

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  64. @60 Hope

    WTF? It’s BRAZIL! You find out your boyfriend è um dealer, you just run away and break contact, never mind trying to turn him in to the cops who will probably betray you to him for a few thousand reals. Move and change your cell phone. Women get done in by underworld figures in the UK, and while misogyny is a factor, this is NOT a domestic abuse story. The guy was probably a fairly big dealer as the source of supply for a small town, and the lurid details smack more of “disappearing a threat” in a country with NO forensic science in its rural areas rather than axe-murdering woman-hate. Bad luck, bad people, and sad that her UK-bred sense of civic duty in a country where even the cops clam up to stay alive (“plomo o plata?” “Lead (i.e. a bullet) or silver”?) contributed to her death.

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  65. on August 1, 2008 at 10:28 pm Gunslingergregi

    on August 1, 2008 at 6:21 pm63 miik
    The thing about cutting off someones head on public transportation is that there is no way
    to make it a “win/win” scenario

    Ok I hope I am not the only one who laughed my ass off.

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  66. brutus said: FYI-the bus killer is named Vince Weiguang Li. I would be willing to guess that he’s not Caucasian

    he’s not blk either.

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  67. Gunslingergregi, I laugh that you are trying to make this about race. The guy who beheaded the other passenger was not black. Now what????

    While you are so busy spewing your hatred, the rich are getting richer. The handful of rich elites (mostly W.hites) are laughing at the rest of young working and middle class idiots who use race as an answer for any of your troubles.

    They keep importing poor people with natural tans because they can pay them less and reap bigger profits, you big dummy.

    As you said in comment number 33, it’s worldwide.

    Wake up, it’s called divide and conquer!
    .

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  68. Guns make even weaker people equal to the hardest hard-boy. Even a 90lb woman. After all, the deadliest shot in the late Old West was Annie Oakley, and Doc Holliday was feared even though he was so physically weak saloon girl prostitutes could and did push him around — woe betide any man who tried that. Holliday would escalate any disagreement into a gunfight for just that reason.

    Guns are the great equalizer — they allow normal, civilized people the same access and ability to use deadly force as your hard-core criminal. No wonder Liberals hate ordinary people using/owning guns (Libs love criminals having them though).

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  69. on August 2, 2008 at 5:32 am Gunslingergregi

    Gunslingergregi, I laugh that you are trying to make this about race. The guy who beheaded the other passenger was not black. Now what????
    Seems like you may be a racist against gunslingergregi’s Sir or Mam.

    Look below and show me where I referenced the article.
    I was talking about comment from jaakkeli.

    jaakkeli
    “they’re talking about importing millions of people and preparing Finns for being a minority ”

    Here we are worrying about sex and it is not just that but the entire breakup of culture that is happening. How about that. Wish you guys luck.

    Someone else obviously needs to take over the reighns.
    This shit is out of control. So not a phenomenon in one shithole city its really world wide or trying to be. Guess world war iii not needed there tearing the shit apart anyway.

    Obviously you are a little tilted to one side

    Not Racist But U R!!!
    “While you are so busy spewing your hatred, the rich are getting richer. The handful of rich elites (mostly W.hites) are laughing at the rest of young working and middle class idiots who use race as an answer for any of your troubles.”

    That was funny shit dude anyone can make it in us even the black people. Why it is funny hearing everyone complain. Or why growing up in the ghetto I learned I sure as shit don’t want to live near african americans en mass for ever. Having travelled the world it seems to be a us phenomena.

    Divide and conquer yea prob. I see you have already been divided and conquered lol I’ll be happy to see the Asians take over. It will be good for us. What I refered to on taking over the reighns. I gave up yea I’ll admit I don’t give a fuck what happens in the states anymore let it go to mud. Well ok I still care but f it. I can’t change it fuck it.

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  70. on August 2, 2008 at 5:58 am Gunslingergregi

    Gonna be sad when people don’t care enough to be racist. Just indifferent because there is nothing to protect nothing to lose and no one has a culture and there are no groups just individual people who have no sence of place in the world or their community.

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  71. People were asking. The news today named those involved.

    The STABBER was a 40 y/o ASIAN GUY.

    The VICTIM was a white 22 y/o kid

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  72. jaakeli 57 “Lots of African dictators have now decided to import masses of Chinese to build stuff for them”
    === Not a very apt comparison to Western elites’ inviting peasants to immigrate. These situations were initiated by the Chinese government, which is trying to secure resources in raw-commodity-rich Africa. Of course you are correct in implying that the natives won’t be pleased to see the immigrants–all legal, and wealthy in comparison–doing boom-boom with the extremely loose native women (there have got to be almost no females among the Chinese immigrants).
    Imagine the legions of Chiafrican babies on the way!

    62 Brutus “the bus killer is named Vince Weiguang Li. I would be willing to guess that he’s not Caucasian.”
    === According to the reports, the two men never exchanged words, a Zorro movie was playing, and Li–who had no record–did the stabbing without any apparent passion. I would be willing to guess Li had become schizophrenic or some such.

    63 miik “The thing about cutting off someones head on public transportation is that there is no way to make it a “win/win” scenario”
    === ROTFL
    Li will undoubtedly be getting marriage proposals now. Calm decapitation is not beta behavior!

    BTW, yesterday in comment 51 I said I rode Greyhound partially for entertainment, since there are no more freak shows…and now I see in the news that the murder victim was a carnie!

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  73. To answer Patrick Bateman I dont think the guy was white not that it would make a diffrence to the victim . But the name sure did’nt sound English Irish Scotch or German it was Ganwag something Li so that do not sound like the average white name do it .

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  74. Thats a first for and probably the last but just wait it wont be long before you all got copy cats doing it in the USA .

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  75. on August 2, 2008 at 4:07 pm sara the boring and repetitive

    72 Not Peter

    62 Brutus “the bus killer is named Vince Weiguang Li. I would be willing to guess that he’s not Caucasian.”
    === According to the reports, the two men never exchanged words, a Zorro movie was playing, and Li–who had no record–did the stabbing without any apparent passion. I would be willing to guess Li had become schizophrenic or some such.

    Sorry, it really pisses me off to read this kind of B.S. My brother is schizophrenic and as such I’ve done a lot of research on the subject and have to tell you this image they have of being more violent than the general population is true and false. True because they are more likely to commit or attempt suicide, but in fact they are far more likely victims of violence. My brother has been raped, beaten, robbed, and abused in so many ways and he is by far the kindest, gentlest, and most SANE member of my family.

    My mother is alcoholic, my father is just neurotic as hell, and my younger brother is filled with hatred for the entire human race and becoming an alcoholic himself. My schizo bro? Just delightful. He makes sense and makes me laugh, pain in the ass that he is to deal with. Thanks for listening.

    http://208.69.42.138:8080/jiveforums/thread.jspa?messageID=39697

    Mentally ill unlikely to commit murder

    The highest risks of death by both murder and accident were in patients with alcoholism and in patients who were drug users.

    The mentally ill are frequently victims of violent crime
    BBC Online News December 21, 2001

    Mentally ill patients are six times more likely to be murdered than the general population, researchers have found. The mentally ill also have higher death rates from suicide and accidental causes.

    The researchers, including the government’s National Director for Mental Health in England, Professor Louis Appleby, said public and media attention usually focuses on the mentally ill as dangerous and as perpetrators of homicides.

    Writing in the Lancet, they say more attention should be paid to the risk mentally ill people face of becoming murder victims themselves.

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  76. on August 2, 2008 at 6:23 pm Patrick Bateman

    @73 Chubbs

    Yeah, I saw that too. Asians do this shit too, but they’re just aren’t as many of them here. Drive-by, Hispanics or blacks. Crazy motherfucker decapitating children with a samurai sword, white or asian.

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  77. 11. the gutting and beheading falls just short of cause for a new law to protect citizens? damn. fucker SHOULD have eaten him.

    lol @ u ><

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  78. Hey, Sara, you and I have something in common. (Besides being female and regarded as nuisances by male posters here.) I’ve got a schizophrenic brother too. He’s also a delightful and gentle person, and I understand the indignation you feel about generalizing that schizophrenics are more likely to become violent than other people. On the other hand, it’s not very likely someone would commit this kind of crime without having had some sort of nasty psychotic episode – or, possibly, a drug habit.

    Whether black people in Canada are likely to have criminal tendencies seems to depend on where they are from. Toronto Jamaicans are notorious for violence, but other Caribbeans there are perceived as law-abiding citizens. In Ottawa, members of the Somali community (here as refugees) are acquiring a bad reputation for crime, but West African black folks (usually middle-class professionals) are well-regarded.

    Anyway, in this city I’d be far more nervous of a white, biker- looking fellow (probably French-Cdn, my own ethnic group, sigh, but not necessarily), than of any person of colour, with rare exceptions. The focus on blackness/crime is an American obsession. In many parts of the country the most problematic racial division is the one between Aboriginal Canadians and everyone else. They have serious problems with poverty, drug abuse, and crime. It’s not as if we can tell them to “go home”, though.

    Clio

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  79. on August 3, 2008 at 3:44 am SovereignAmericanMale

    @75 sara the boring and repetitive

    “My brother is schizophrenic… and most SANE member of my family.”

    *warm smile*

    So tell me sara, this brother you’ve mentioned, has anyone else seen him? Do you have pictures?

    A really good movie about delusional schizophrenia is “A beautiful mind” staring Russel Crow.

    A very harmless guy really.

    He refuses to accept his illness, until he realizes that one of his imaginary friends (a very young girl) has never aged into a older child and then into a teen.

    On the other hand sara, I have known men who were paranoid schiz. who were acting out of fear; but who were extremely violent to protect themselves. They really do have people out to get them (the guys in white suits).

    Your in good company tho, sara. As a five year old, I was diagnosed “childhood schiz.” & I had two imaginary friends 1. was snakey the snake, and 2. skelly the skeleton.

    By nine, I had no memory of their existence. Just the word of Mom, and two different shrinks.

    So I was crazy once, during my developing years no less.
    Whats your excuse Babe?

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  80. on August 3, 2008 at 4:02 am My name is not sara!

    79 S.A.M.

    So tell me sara, this brother you’ve mentioned, has anyone else seen him? Do you have pictures?

    What the fuck kind of comment is that? Do you think I’m lying about him? One thing I am not, and that is dishonest. Please!

    So I was crazy once, during my developing years no less.
    Whats your excuse Babe?

    I don’t need an excuse to be crazy. It’s a life style choice, and believe me, many men love the WAY I am crazy, because it’s harmless and can be a lot of fun. Normal things are for crazy people. My daughter clued me in on that. I have literally created myself from nothing and am happy with myself more than ever.

    But people are like crabs in a bucket. When one tries to crawl out, the others want to drag him back down. The happier I am, the more SOME people think I am crazy. I tend to get along with young people (zero to 30) or at least those who are energetic, open minded, and happily crazy too.

    You were diagnosed as schizophrenic at the age of five? I dare say your shrink was a quack. Schizophrenia typically hits between the ages of 17 and 25.

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  81. on August 3, 2008 at 4:08 am My name is not sara!

    78 anony clio

    I’ve got a schizophrenic brother too. He’s also a delightful and gentle person, and I understand the indignation you feel about generalizing that schizophrenics are more likely to become violent than other people.

    It is a small world as they say in Disneyland. Schizophrenia is way too common and it’s my opinion that it’s caused by mercury poisoning perhaps in the womb. There are studies which support this. Interestingly enough, when my brother (who refuses to see a dentist) had all his silver filled teeth fall out, his symptoms reduced dramatically. I believe that his schizophrenia has morphed into seizures though, as mercury does not leave the body on it’s own.

    It’s quite the thing having a sibling with Schizophrenia. My brother is lucky that he has the support (almost too much) from my mother and father. They have sacrificed their lives for him just about. I hate the way mentally ill people are treated and have great respect for them and their struggles. My brother has maintained an amazingly optimistic attitude and I would love it if he would/could write a book on his life experience.

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  82. on August 3, 2008 at 7:41 am SovereignAmericanMale

    Not Sara

    You were diagnosed as schizophrenic at the age of five? I dare say your shrink was a quack. Schizophrenia typically hits between the ages of 17 and 25.

    Thats why they have the term diagnosis: “Childhood Sciz.”
    and not the regular kind. Also, its one that can normalize, into typical brain function unlike the traditional Sciz.

    Also, I have said before the science is good for identifying problems / illnesses but not for curing them.

    What the fuck kind of comment is that? Do you think I’m lying about him? One thing I am not, and that is dishonest. Please!

    Its the same kind as the one I made about your daughter sometime back. Exactly the same.

    I do not think you are lying, & did not imply dishonesty. I implied delusion, in a humorous manor. Its clear your brother is a Hot Button issue with you. And even comments not directly about him, but about you, trigger some fight response.

    You may want to talk with your therapist on why that is.

    and kindly please, go “F Yourself” if you cant take a joke, Crazy Lady.

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  83. in this city I’d be far more nervous of a white, biker- looking fellow (probably French-Cdn, my own ethnic group, sigh, but not necessarily),

    That’s a dodge of a person who is skittish about the topic of race and on at least one level is afraid to deal with his/her own “forbidden thoughts” on this subject.

    As I explain more further down in this comment, thuggishness (like that of your bikers) is not really what it’s about. Rough-looking people are present in every balanced, organic society. The idea is to know the difference between “your thugs” and “their thugs.”

    To me the fact that there are still “my thugs” out there is vaguely reassuring, because I know that if “my thugs” went away, the streets would be ruled by “their thugs.” Which would suck.

    The focus on blackness/crime is an American obsession.

    The difference between Americans and Canadians on the subject of race is that you (the Canadians) are a babe-in-diapers innocents on this subject and see it through an entirely different lens. For Americans (from most but not all regions/states) this has been a part of our history for 400 years.

    Personally, I think crime, IQ, welfare, and what will you are proxy subjects for what is really going on, which is far more existential. When people of two or more races live in proximity, they are aware, deep in their bones, that their very existance as a distinct people is challenged because intermarriage is a possibilty and cultural norms will come into conflict.

    Culture was defined by Eliot as “that which makes life worth living” and one way to define success is “having many grandchildren who look and think like your grandparents did.” It’s not about crime and IQ. It’s about something much more profound.

    Canadians are a lot like the western Europeans a few decades ago, when mass immigration was just beginning: their official narrative was that racial problems were an American failing, but they the nice non-racist Europeans, will have no problem whatsoever welcomng and assimilating the Somalis in Oslo, Moroccans in Rotterdam, Arabs in Paris, Pakistanis in London….

    That kind of thinking, “I will do better than those racist Americans” is sewn through with moral vanity. Which as a Catholic, you know is kin to Pride, a mortal sin.

    Back to the United States: which white people did Obama do well with? ones in states with lots of black people, like Mississippi, or ones with almost none, like Iowa?

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  84. In our state, the State Fair was once a “big deal” and I can honestly say that during my boyhood, I had some of the best times of my childhood there with my parents and my friends that we brought along. Would I bring my little brood to the fair nowadays? No. There are some fights and some gang activity and we’d be ethnically outnumbered pretty badly now, so we drive to a mega theme park once a year in the summer.

    I’ve never heard that sort of thing about a state fair before, ever. Are you willing to say what state?

    In Ottawa, members of the Somali community (here as refugees) are acquiring a bad reputation for crime

    It’s been said that the Somalis in London are an embarrassment even to other African immigrants.

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  85. PA, I meant what I said about racial preoccupations in Canada: blackness is not their focus. They’re different. I did NOT say that they didn’t exist. Did you read the bit about Native Canadians? That’s a seriously huge issue in Canada today, partly because trying to resolve it is costing us so much money.

    As for the rest, I’m sure you’re right about Canadian naivete on the subject of immigration and race, although I think we’re probably in the same boat as Europeans, and not five decades behind them.

    There was no self-congratulation in that comment of mine, and no anti-American sniping. I was trying for a little close discrimination – i.e., the making of fine distinctions – that’s all. Remember, the guilty man in roissy’s original story turned out to be of Chinese descent…

    Clio

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  86. 75, 78, Sara, Clio
    I just meant mentally ill, didn’t mean to pick on schizophrenics in particular. That’s why I said “schizophrenic or some such” instead of just “schizophrenic.” Based on the news report, it certainly seems likely the man was having a paranoid delusion rather than simply being in an ornery mood. Would be interesting to hear his reason for carrying a big knife (not that his lawyer will tell the truth about it if it doesn’t help the insanity defense). BTW, I’ll be surprised if he does any time since it will be easy for a good lawyer (with a case this notorious, a competent criminal lawyer will probably take the case pro bono) to basically say “Of COURSE he didn’t know what he was doing, how could anyone knowingly do such a gross thing? The very act proves he was insane.”

    BTW Clio, better be careful with comments about Somalis and Aborigines. That is hate speech, is it not? : ) You may have a better chance of doing prison time than the bus butcherer. No wait, *you* won’t, because the Human Rights Commission there in Canada won’t prosecute anyone who is not a caucasian male. Carry on!

    79 SAM
    Funny! But damn, dude, there are still people in this world who haven’t gotten around to seeing A Beautiful Mind on DVD…that was a huge spoiler!

    81 Sara “when my brother (who refuses to see a dentist) had all his silver filled teeth fall out, his symptoms reduced dramatically”
    === Well, of COURSE he felt better…he no longer had to hear all those government and alien radio transmissions. Duh!

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  87. @83 PA

    You’re not mentioning that America and Canada have had extremely different foreign policies for 60+ years, as well as different approaches to running their own country. That certainly makes a difference as well.

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  88. on August 3, 2008 at 3:16 pm Steve Johnson

    clio:

    “Remember, the guilty man in roissy’s original story turned out to be of Chinese descent…”

    Apparently, he’s a Chinese muslim. The other group that gets the news blackout when violence is involved. He’s (allegedly) been reported as such in a Chinese language newspaper.

    Evidence for:

    (1) someone claiming that one of his readers told him that it was reported in a Chinese-language newspaper. (pretty flimsy)
    (2) the fact that there’s a media blackout on Muslim violence. (only a factor if you suspect that he’s Muslim in the first place)
    (3) very odd thing in the story: within minutes, the RCMP stated that they don’t have any idea why he did it but they know that it wasn’t terrorism (as a motive). Uh, how can you you know that without knowing what the motive actually is?

    Link to the story with the odd quote:

    http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_25353.aspx

    Link to the blog article w/ the reader claim:

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011114.html

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  89. But while authorities here admit they don’t yet know the motive for the murder, they’re adamant terror wasn’t behind it.

    I grew up hearing Soviet-sponsored propaganda in schools, papers, and on TV. But in my recollection, the Party treated its audience as adults; their lies never so brazenly insulted the masses’ intelligence.

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  90. on August 3, 2008 at 3:34 pm My name is not sara!

    82 S.A.M.

    and kindly please, go “F Yourself” if you cant take a joke, Crazy Lady

    I was taking it as a joke, actually. The Please! was my way of conveying that. I tell my almost boyfriend to fuck off all the time and he loves it. You forget I am just bawdy and foul mouthed by nature. It’s actually a form of affection. I sit over here very light hearted about 99% of the time. I’m here for fun and entertainment even if my comments are sometimes of a sober nature, my mood is not….or ususally not. Now fuck off! LOL

    Even my daughter and I will say “fuck you!” occasionally to each other, she calls me a hag (one of her favorite insults, and mine), etc. I need a man I can tell to fuck off and go to hell occasionally. It clears the air.

    86 Not Peter
    === Well, of COURSE he felt better…he no longer had to hear all those government and alien radio transmissions. Duh!===

    That was quite good! Very clever. I’m glad to say, he’s beyond the radio transmission stage. Age usually reduces the symptoms and he is 57, but looks much, much older from the ravages of the meds and smoking addiction.

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  91. Steve Johnson, PA, etc.,

    My main point was that you have to know something of a country’s history to understand which racial groups are antagonistic to each other. Aboriginal Canadians have been a federal government responsibility since our country first came into existence. This has been the cause of a great deal of resentment among other Canadians, though it would be hard to say that “First Nations” people, as we call them here, really benefitted by the government’s largesse.

    Speaking of terrorism – which may or may not have been an element in this murder – I once saw an online commentator opine that Muslims were the main source of terrorist violence everywhere, including India. Yes, India – a country that lost a prime minister to assassination by her Sikh bodyguards, and where terrorism has been used by virtually every religious and political community against its perceived enemies. Again, you need to know a country’s history to know who hates whom, and why.

    clio

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  92. on August 4, 2008 at 1:41 am SovereignAmericanMale

    Let boil the truth down sara…

    1.
    I need a man I can tell to fuck off and go to hell occasionally. It clears the air.

    2.
    I need a man I can tell to fuck off and go to hell occasionally.

    3.
    I need a man.

    So this is the source of your mental disquiet. Get a man, get shagged rotten on a habitual basis, and you will feel much better.

    Ps
    Remember, cussing like you have Torrete’s syndrome is only sexy in the bedroom.

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  93. lots of it appears when you guys drift off into political or social commentary.

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  94. doing boom-boom with the extremely loose native women (there have got to be almost no females among the Chinese immigrants).

    not peter, what makes you think native African women are extremely loose?

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  95. PA, good job on comment 83.

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  96. 92 SAM

    So this is the source of your mental disquiet.

    Mind by nature is disquiet, which is why “peace” of mind is an impossibility. Only by stopping the mind is quiet possible. Sex will definitely quiet the mind. The better the sex the longer the quiet.

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  97. I read about postings about mental illness. There are many other forms of mental illnesses besides schizophrenia. There are bipolar, chronic depression, schizo-effective, Asperger’s Syndrome, and many others. I will admit that I have Asperger’s Syndrome. The reason I am open to say this is that everyone knows one person who has it. That person is the richest man in the world and his name is Bill Gates. I was looking online for people who had Asperger’s Syndrome and he was listed as one of them. I was in total shock. When I found out that Bill Gates has a mental illness, I realized that even mentally ill people can do great things and possibly change the history of the world. Bill Gates should be considered an idol for those with mental illness. He proved that we can do great things when we put our minds to it.

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