Ugly People Made Me An Atheist

Sometimes, dark ominous thoughts intrude, and a feeling of utter hopelessness overwhelms me. I wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat, fearing that god may exist, and that I will be punished in eternal hellfire for my many, many, MANY years of sinning.

And then I see people like these…

ugh1

ugh2

ugh3

ugh4

…and a wave of relief sweeps over me as I happily reaffirm that god does not exist, and I am free to go on sinning without worry.

Made in his image, indeed. I wonder if game would help these guys?

(Hat tip: el chief, for pointers to the omegas among us.)





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  1. Oh come now, that one small girl in ugh3 is a cutie. And ugh1 can’t be real.

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  2. Happy Halloween. So which one is Zunder?

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  3. not sure what Roissy’s message is. Is he annoyed that ugly people can find joy and happiness, in contra to Roissy’s script for them?

    [editor: which group do you believe commits suicide at a higher rate — ugly people or beautiful people?]

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  4. let’s hope they have god at least. they’ll need it.

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  5. “Ugly People Made Me An Atheist”

    Trick or treat!

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  6. Hey look at Pic 3.

    Ruby, Obsidian, Chic Noir, FeministX – the gang’s all here!

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  7. It would be sad to look really, really ugly… but. What if God makes some people ugly on the outside so they have to learn to develop their inside more? People who have to struggle in life for being ugly develop other talents to charm others – look at Disraeli and Queen Victoria. In religions that believe in reincarnation and/or karma, people have to “pay back” for past misdeeds. So according to that an ugly person probably used their beauty for bad in another life… and teased the less beautiful. Its more complex than that of course (duality is an artificial construct for the limited embodied human mind – no bad without good, no ugly without beauty), but… Oh wait is this post a joke? Oops loll . So meannnn mr. Roissy!

    [editor: why would god require extra effort on the part of some people and not others? seems a bit… capricious… don’t you think?]

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  8. Ah, Wilbur. That was funny.

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  9. not sure what Roissy’s message is. Is he annoyed that ugly people can find joy and happiness, in contra to Roissy’s script for them?

    [editor: which group do you believe commits suicide at a higher rate — ugly people or beautiful people?]

    Well, he answered that clearly. He is annoyed at their happiness and joy.

    [editor: actually, no, i’m asking you a simple question cunt. answer the question.]

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  10. Are National Geographic-style topless photos NSFW? I figure if it’s not not wankable, it shouldn’t be.

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  11. lovelysexybeauty inquired lala:

    It would be sad to look really, really ugly… but. What if God makes some people ugly on the outside so they have to learn to develop their inside more?

    he just makes them bloggers
    who won’t post
    their
    pic

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  12. [editor: which group do you believe commits suicide at a higher rate — ugly people or beautiful people?]

    Pupu suspects the suicide rate is higher among beautiful or *once* beautiful people. Oddly enough, psychologically disturbed people are often physically attractive. Perhaps, artistic temperament has something to do with it.

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  13. ugly people made me a racist,

    because I am to much of sissy to be an atheist. I am not prepared to bet the whole eternity that God doesn´t exist

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  14. God is calling you, Roissy…

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  15. That third picture is interesting. The kid in the front is actually quite good looking. It is presumably the spawn of some of those others in the picture. How did this one kid come out looking much better than the rest?

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  16. the blue eyed guy in the first picture is not ugly, he´s a freak

    the dark-haired couple in the second picture offer us a beautiful example of human repulsiveness

    if I had to live among aborigenes for more than 2 weeks, I´d become impotent

    the baby looks photoshopped

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  17. “In religions that believe in reincarnation and/or karma, people have to “pay back” for past misdeeds. So according to that an ugly person probably used their beauty for bad in another life… and teased the less beautiful.”

    I smell a contest! If there’s anything to reincarnation, Roissy will come back as ….

    Looking like Joyce Wildenstein?

    Lady Rain’s latest illegitimate son?

    A yeast infection in a crack whore?

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  18. imagine that you die and suddenly you realizes that you still have conscience of what´s happening.

    than God appears. And says that you will spend eternity with 72 fat-old aborigen ladies

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  19. My guess — suicides are a province of higher-end people. Their expectations can become stratospheric and the letdown can be epic.

    Like Japanese teenagers who humiliate their family and their nation by getting a B+ in quantuum physics.

    The dull and the ugly don’t expect much to begin with.

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  20. on October 30, 2009 at 12:43 pm Brick Oven Bill

    Australia appears to be lightening. One wonders who did the heavy lifting two generations ago.

    This must have been a man of zeal.

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  21. The first picture—zunder and his now ex-wfe—she caught him cheating with bessie out in the cow patch.

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  22. @editor To us it may seem that way, because we can’t comprehemd the entire narrative of a life and the personal development of someone in totality. There are other ways people have to develop themselves, its not just beauty. Some people are naturally smart, others have to work hard to learn. Can’t really quantify effort made… If u get it easy in one area, likely u have it hatd in another. More money more problems happens in other parts of life too not just money… @pupu lsb thinks that’s a good point. Beautiful people are used to getting instant respect, ugly people are used to having to earn that respect. @firepower lolllll

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  23. That should be @pupu and @pa. By the way spending too much time on blogs seems to make a person too serious all the time. Like everything is a debate not just a funny halloween joke! Hehe.

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  24. gig´s iron law relating beauty and religion

    1 – whenever Christians and Non-Christians live side by side, the Christian populatio will be significantly more beautiful than the Non-Christians

    2 – WHenever Catholics and Non-Catholics live side by side, the same effect applies in favor of Catholics, though it is moderated by the lower ugliness of CHristians

    3 – Reincarnation is a belief of ugly peoples

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  25. Was talking about myself there by the way… Roissy online is like anti-sexy potion, or maybe cerebral sexy potion (snoooze)

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  26. It’s like you read my mind Roissy. Every time I see someone who loses the genetic lottery hard, I think the same thing.

    Nothing is more universally appealing and something to strive for than a perfect female form. Then you get some unlucky people who start in negative to get that goal, tis’ a cruel world.

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  27. Corollary to Gig’s laws:

    a) when any two peoples anywhere in the world fight each other, America/The Left will favor the uglier-people side.

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  28. Ah, nothing more hilarious the sight of very plain people cackling at ugly people (okay, a few of you may not be plain, but excessive plainness is probably the average here.)

    The third picture is interesting because that’s what all Aborigines look like.

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  29. PA —

    Wow, a white nationalist suggesting brown people are ugly. Imagine that!

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  30. on October 30, 2009 at 1:07 pm gunslingergregi

    Todd like when your mom sucks my dick after cooking me dinner.

    Yea that was funny

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  31. 1) I wish really ugly people wouldn’t reproduce; but that 2) society otherwise be reasonably kind to them.

    In part along the lines that kicking mangy dogs is not likely to lead the kicker to be kinder to either good dogs or good people.

    Of course the leadership in our society generally takes the views of 2) and my second paragraph to extremes and ends up both encouraging and often subsidizing the ugly to reproduce – which is dysfunctional and decadent.

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  32. on October 30, 2009 at 1:10 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea abe its throw label day anyone who says anything about blacks is racist. yay

    If you stop a black man from raping a white woman I suppose thats racist in your book to eh abe he he he

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  33. abe

    Wow, a white nationalist suggesting brown people are ugly. Imagine that!

    PA may be something of a white partisan but he doesn’t seem to me to race hater at all as your attempted shaming and labeling would have it.

    Lord knows there are enough black and Latino partisans or in the former case racialists. Damn few aren’t in fact.

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  34. I don’t think it’s a good idea to apply flawed human logic to a being that’s supposed to be all powerful and all knowing.

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  35. I’m not a big believer in deity either, but I don’t think you have much here. If life is eternal, then how pretty your mortal body is for a few years isn’t that big of a deal. It’s like if you play Monopoly, someone hands you the iron, and when you look at it, it’s kind of scratched up.

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  36. Hmm. Not sure about any of this. Serious physical ugliness seems to be the result of a) biological conditions – illness; genetic damage; or extreme hardship; or b) social conditions that may in some cases cause the illness, genetic damage or hardship. There’s also the opposite problem of affluence and the weight gain that occurs in societies in which food is plentiful.

    The men in the first two photos (esp. the first photo) look as if they might have been born of alcoholic mothers: their faces show signs of fetal alcohol syndrome. The woman in the first photo is very plain but she has good teeth, a nice smile and a clear complexion, so does not count as truly ugly. The woman in the second photo is overweight, badly dressed, and in need of a more flattering hairstyle – i.e. her worst problems are self-inflicted, poor thing. The aboriginal people – well, as a group they looked better – lean and fit – before they began to mingle with whites. At least these look cheerful and friendly. And the baby in the last photo is a cute child who has been terribly overfed by its parents.

    So Roissy, there’s a certain amount of human sin that goes into making people ugly. Not invariably – but in the worst cases it’s often Sin that’s responsible. Not always or usually the sins of the ugly ones themselves.

    Still, I sort of agree with you. Don’t know why God adds to our burdens so much – it’s hard enough to live in this world.

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  37. “reclaiming words” is an hilarious term, invented by left wing blacks and feminists and SWPLers and other intellectual midgets. There’s simply no such thing. Or else ask yourself: is the word “nigger” now meaningless because its been reclaimed?

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  38. Awww, look at the white nationalists standing up for each other. It’s cute!

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  39. abe

    The third picture is interesting because that’s what all Aborigines look like.

    oy vey
    they do
    soitanly look very
    ‘interesting’

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  40. lurker

    is the word “nigger” now meaningless because its been reclaimed?

    For most of society – even the status quo – the word certainly has meaning because you know one, when you see one.

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  41. I’m an atheist myself, but even I think that “the problem of evil” type arguments are silly.

    Yes, I could say “ooh god doesn’t exist because of mongoloids, AIDS, and suffering” but all that rules out is the christian view of god. “God” could be a sick fuck or simply everything we perceive as bad has no actual “evil” intention. Humans aren’t exactly highly advanced when we compare ourselves to some hypothetical thing that created the universe.

    You’re just taking the piss of course. Yeah, I get it. You need to look at ugly people to feel good about the way you look and also to assuage any fears about all the moral conventions you shit on.

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  42. on October 30, 2009 at 1:26 pm gunslingergregi

    I didn’t start the race thread it is impossible since “reaching” out and dating a black woman. Even black men don’t do that. I am impervous to racial profiling now he he he

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  43. [editor: which group do you believe commits suicide at a higher rate — ugly people or beautiful people?]

    “The dancer slows her frantic pace
    In pain and desperation,
    Her aching limbs and downcast face
    Aglow with perspiration

    Stiff as wire, her lungs on fire,
    With just the briefest pause
    The flooding through her memory,
    The echoes of old applause.

    She limps across the floor
    And closes her bedroom door…

    The writer stares with glassy eyes
    Defies the empty page
    His beard is white, his face is lined
    And streaked with tears of rage.

    Thirty years ago, how the words would flow
    With passion and precision,
    But now his mind is dark and dulled
    By sickness and indecision

    And he stares out the kitchen door
    Where the sun will rise no more…

    Some are born to move the world
    To live their fantasies
    But most of us just dream about
    The things we’d like to be
    Sadder still to watch it die
    Than never to have known it
    For you, the blind who once could see
    The bell tolls for thee
    The bell tolls for thee…” – N.P.

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  44. on October 30, 2009 at 1:29 pm gunslingergregi

    Did ya see abes cute nationalist label bounce off of me. Everyone needs to date the black chick once so that labels just bounce off your sparkling new race shield.

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  45. What if God makes some people ugly on the outside so they have to learn to develop their inside more?

    What if God just has a sick sense of humor?

    “And when I die, I expect to find him laughing…”

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  46. on October 30, 2009 at 1:32 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””abe

    The third picture is interesting because that’s what all Aborigines look like.
    ””””””’

    I can’t believe abe is a seperatist white nationalist. It just boggles the mind. I don’t even get it. I am too enlightened.

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  47. there’s a certain amount of human sin that goes into making people ugly. Not invariably – but in the worst cases it’s often Sin that’s responsible.>>

    Agreed.
    God gave us free will. Some people choose a life of avarice or other acts that make them and their genepool ugly and useless. Others have gone down a path that tear down their societies, giving truly evil people power, whether it’s the union thug who does everything he can to turn GM into a laughing stock so he can sit on his fat ass all day or the pseudo-alpha who takes advantage of the slutscape of urban environments thereby creating the end of his own civilization.

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  48. gunslingergregi, please, to the SWPLer crowd, it never goes away if you in any way support right wing policies. And it never becoems attached if you support left wing policies.

    Which si why its a meaningless term, as is racist.

    See Limbaugh—my producer is the black James Golden, aka Bo Snerdley.

    Also see Al Sharpton.

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  49. on October 30, 2009 at 1:34 pm gunslingergregi

    “And when I die, I expect to find him laughing…”

    lol tarl

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  50. gunslingergregi

    I didn’t start the race thread it is impossible since “reaching” out and dating a black woman.

    Me too. I’ve had more black pussy than a welfare midwife.

    ps – you spose to save da race threads fo Obsidians new blog.

    dint yall get
    da memo

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  51. Yes,there is a Goddess! And she’s an American!

    http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=5525

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  52. What if God just has a sick sense of humor?

    “And when I die, I expect to find him laughing…”

    I do believe in a kind of god, and this is the one.

    Or, alternately, I believe with Heraclitus that “The Aeon is a child at play with colored balls.”

    He is just as lost in the world as the rest of us, and makes it up as He goes along. Stumbling, bumbling, ocassionally getting it right, but more often than not, getting all FUBAR on our asses.

    “The principle activity of Nature, like some eternally frustrated artist, is destruction.” – De Sade

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  53. on October 30, 2009 at 1:39 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea lurker everyone labels before they kill or dehumanize someone. I suppose hypothetically could label abe a white nationalist hater in order to dehumanize him before you cut off his head with a butterknife so that his screams where not those of a human being in pain but just another subhuman white nationalist hater.

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  54. Anonymous

    I’m an atheist myself bla bla…

    You’re just taking the piss of course

    bla blah…

    Well, you’re obviously an English schoolgirl, so your opinion is worth a fuck into a cocked hat.

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  55. on October 30, 2009 at 1:42 pm gunslingergregi

    I see the force is strong in you firepower. Your shield must actually encompass even people in your vacinity.

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  56. I have sympathy for them. Not pity, just sympathy. We’re programmed to be put off by asymmetry and other unattractive qualities. To have that effect on others would make life harder. As for their happiness, I hate to say it but that has more to do with their innate temperament, I think.

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  57. Hey Gig, you really ought to check out “Paranormal Activitiy” when you get a chance. I think you’d really like it.

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  58. Tupac Chopra

    I do believe in a kind of god, and this is the one.

    He is just as lost in the world as the rest of us, and makes it up as He goes along. Stumbling, bumbling, ocassionally getting it right, but more often than not, getting all FUBAR on our asses

    Hey, tell Him to finally get that flipper-limbed baby shit right. It’s about fucking time. Oh, and wtf is up with asian’s eyes

    Just a Steeltown Girl
    on a Saturday night
    looking for
    the fight of her life

    In the real time world
    no one sees her
    at all
    they all think
    she’s crazy

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  59. I think there’s a tragic beauty in the horrendously ugly. Like a car crash. It’s hypnotic.

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  60. FP:

    He’s still working on the Harlequin Baby problem. Will get back to you.

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  61. Anonymous – Also God could be less than all-powerful. Why does he have to be ALL powerful. Maybe he’s extraordinarily powerful but far from all-powerful and he can’t make everything perfect. I’m an atheist too but you’re right, the argument from evil only disproves an omnipotent, benevolent god.

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  62. You’re also ignoring that ugly people might be the very assertion that God exists. Ugly stick could have been punitive measure for past life misdemeanours.

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  63. Tupac Chopra

    FP:

    He’s still working on the Harlequin Baby problem. Will get back to you.

    I love them Harlequin Baby Romances.

    I insist
    all my bitchez
    read ’em

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  64. FP: Perhaps Bhetti could enlighten us. I haven’t had the pleasure.

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  65. Sofia

    You’re also ignoring that ugly people might be the very assertion that God exists. Ugly stick could have been punitive measure for past life misdemeanours.

    It’s time Buddha
    ceased punishing
    His Indians

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  66. on October 30, 2009 at 1:51 pm gunslingergregi

    On the sinning though if you mostly do good got to even out I would think. Sure selective application of laws but I haven’t mass murdered yet and there has been plenty of reasons to do so. Think I should get the big pie in the sky for that alone.

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  67. Tupac Chopra

    FP: Perhaps Bhetti could enlighten us. I haven’t had the pleasure.

    Me either.
    you and I
    must be
    the only two

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  68. gunny–

    Everyone needs to date the black chick once so that labels just bounce off your sparkling new race shield.

    Two that come to me off the top of my head. One was a real tall (I’m talking 6 foot here) elegant looking (but not so much acting) Haitian-American. Hot monkey sex girl. Coal black skin. The other was a longstanding AA, with some claimed AmerIndian blood in the mix. Looked like it. That one wasn’t so hot in the sack – princess type.

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  69. One man’s ugly is another man’s hate crime.

    Just sayin’.

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  70. gunslingergregi

    I see the force is strong in you firepower. Your shield must actually encompass even people in your vacinity.

    thanks bro.
    when i perfect the art of the ’email orgasm’ sometime next week,

    I will share the secrets with “The Community” lol

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  71. which group do you believe get sexually harassed (…and so on: stalked, raped) more? -beautiful or ugly people?

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  72. http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=5918

    best thing about this pic? the little girl standing in front of daddy.

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  73. Rejoice, gentlemen, for tomorrow is National Dress Like a Skank Day!

    http://www.alldivamedia.com/blog/2007/10/31/happy-halloweensluts/

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  74. Sofia–

    Ugly stick could have been punitive measure for past life misdemeanours.

    Aboriginals ancestors must have been up to some mighty mischief then. Enough to put whitie to shame for lack of evil imagination, much to the chagrin of the cultural Marxists. I don’t think the later got your memo though Sofia.

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  75. on October 30, 2009 at 1:57 pm gunslingergregi

    See abe apparently we all have race shields so its all good.

    I got mine a little late but hey you try fucking a black chick with a dick that doesn’t listen no matter how many thing you say to convince it that its ok.

    Ain’t that the truth lurker.

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  76. on October 30, 2009 at 1:59 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’roissy
    http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=5918

    best thing about this pic? the little girl standing in front of daddy.
    ”””””’

    That is the kind of attitude you need just to survive a diversified area.

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  77. Doug,

    Heh. I greatly appreciate the cultural marxist reference you managed to (gratuitously) sneak in. It’s like you knew what to say to get me going.

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  78. alias clio trying to find the sunshine:
    Hmm. Not sure about any of this. Serious physical ugliness seems to be the result of a) biological conditions – illness; genetic damage; or extreme hardship; or b) social conditions that may in some cases cause the illness, genetic damage or hardship. There’s also the opposite problem of affluence and the weight gain that occurs in societies in which food is plentiful.

    fat certainly uglifies. but most bone-deep ugliness is fused at the moment of conception.

    The woman in the first photo is very plain but she has good teeth, a nice smile and a clear complexion, so does not count as truly ugly.

    surely you josh. the woman in the first pic is a grotesquerie. she’s not plain, she’s repulsively ugly. squashed noggin, malformed raccoon eyes, aggressive proboscis, pencil thin lips, joker grin, rippling mandible muscles.
    or, in the parlance of the day, she’s a 1.

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  79. lol at the Michelin baby at the bottom. Kid needs need to be told no once in a while.

    Then again, he’s probably a boob man.

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  80. on October 30, 2009 at 2:02 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’That one wasn’t so hot in the sack – princess type.””””””

    Yea I have noticed that mine has a lot to learn in the ways of the bedroom but a willing pupil I suppose.

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  81. Ok. Man your wacked. I think this post shows why life without God is life without compassion and empathy.

    I agree with much of what you say on Game for today’s man in the Western world but this does not show a flattering side to you at all.

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  82. Yooohooo Roissy,sh’e waiting!

    http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=2591

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  83. on October 30, 2009 at 2:06 pm gunslingergregi

    Is that tank abbot?

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  84. on October 30, 2009 at 2:08 pm gunslingergregi

    omg ovid you sob

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  85. Gunslingergregi:

    “Is that tank abbot?”
    —I dunno. Wait till he pulls a knife during a pro wreslting show and scares the shit out of a dying company.

    (old WCW joke for you old timers…)

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  86. abe–

    As for your “all”, there is this girl, who I’ve seen trotted out several times as an example of an “Aboriginal” hottie. So I’ll do it here for you:

    I wonder what percentage Ab she is though abe.

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  87. on October 30, 2009 at 2:10 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””’DeepThought
    Ok. Man your wacked. I think this post shows why life without God is life without compassion and empathy.
    ””””””””

    Reversed without god you can actually have empathy not jealousy because even ugly people get to go to heaven.

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  88. on October 30, 2009 at 2:11 pm gunslingergregi

    It is harder looking at fucked up things in the world if you don’t believe there is any redemption for them on this earth.

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  89. A better example that god doesn’t exist would be genocide, holocaust and… the bible. Bunch of bs written by “priests” on psychedelics.

    Yeah so sad ugly people can replicate. If they didn’t we wouldn’t have anything to judge what good looking is though? Or would standards drastically increase and little flaws like red hear would be considered ugly? That would be a day when Lindsey Lohan is considered ugly because she isn’t brunet like Monica Belluci. I would love to live in that kind of world where standards are so high due to elimination of the weak and pathetic.

    Who believes in god anyways? People who refuse to abolish their childhood ignorance and people who hate logic/science/common sense? Religion is beta…

    “I AM GOD!”

    Malice, Alec Baldwin (Uber Alpha)

    P.S.

    God complex and narcissism are both good for you…

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  90. I feel sorry for the aboriginals. I wonder if they are conscious of their appearance relative to the pervasive standard of beauty, or do they still lead fairly secluded lives?

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  91. “I’ve met God across his long walnut desk with his diplomas hanging on the wall behind him, and God asks me, “Why?” Why did I cause so much pain? Didn’t I realize that each of us is a sacred, unique snowflake of special unique specialness? Can’t I see how we’re all manifestations of love? I look at God behind his desk, taking notes on a pad, but God’s got this all wrong. We are not special. We are not crap or trash, either. We just are. We just are, and what happens just happens. And God says, “No, that’s not right.” Yeah. Well. Whatever. You can’t teach God anything.” -Chuck Palahniuk

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  92. Roissy–

    in the parlance of the day, she’s a 1.

    Nah.

    If she’s a one then where’re we gonna put the famous cigstach? Or a number of other of your hotness spectrum girls. What about that nerd girl picture you put up in a group pic with that super whimpy nerd looking guy? Or innumerable obese fatties with ugly faces beyond the fat. Like that girl marrying the micro Army dude you graced us with. There are a lot of ugly people out there.

    The first girl is a 2 or maybe a 3. Gotta leave room below.

    Of course their female child – shudder. Cause the guy is truly unfortunate looking.

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  93. I am omega and I am attractive to the point where I get plenty of eye contact ja. Omega can be a state of mind.

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  94. on October 30, 2009 at 2:22 pm the_alpha_male

    Wasn’t there a blog post somewhere in the HBD blogsphere recently pointing to a study indicating that atheists were ugly?

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  95. Pupu finds that extreme ugliness, except for obesity, can almost seem cute.

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  96. ”””God complex and narcissism are both good for you…””””

    Now take your medicine little johnny lol king

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  97. How odd
    Of God
    To choose
    The Jews.

    –William Norman Ewer

    A rather charming couplet,wouldn’t you agree?

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  98. Ovid

    Yooohooo Roissy,sh’e waiting!

    http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=2591

    This is the most disturbing site I’ve ever seen.
    Thanks for fucking ruining my lunch.

    Next time somebody asks you if America is worth saving, just link to that site.

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  99. That the world has always been over-flowing with un-deserved misfortune has never been seriously in doubt.
    That the mere ugliness of these folks is a pre-eminent example of cosmic unfairness is a different matter.
    Spend some time in a pediatric cancer ward. Or talk to a freshly quaded 17 year old guy who just fell off a bike the wrong way.

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  100. Roissy, don’t be a douche.

    The guy in #1 looks deformed, but the girl is okay-looking– I mean, hardly going to win a beauty contest, but a 4 or a 5, not a 1. You can’t even tell if the guy in #2 has attractive features because they’re so drowned in fat.* The girl in #2 would be kind of pretty, actually, if she was younger and thinner. And the baby in #4 is just ridiculously overfed.

    *Contrary to Roissy’s thoughts, I personally think a woman can carry a few extra pounds much easier than a man can– it’ll come off as ‘curvy’ on a woman on levels where a man would be ‘fat pig.’ Conversely, men age better.

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  101. on October 30, 2009 at 2:30 pm ironrailsironweights

    Hey Roissy,

    What do you think about this story? [112-year-old man marries 17-year-old girl in Somalia]

    My opinion: as long as the girl has a GNP, I’m fine with it.

    Peter

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  102. Also,

    we’re forgetting Chin Chan.

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  103. Niel Degrasse on “Stupid design” goes along with the ugly people but even more harsh examples and reason to doubt the Omni ghost.

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  104. @doug
    “The first girl is a 2 or maybe a 3. Gotta leave room below.”

    ha, i see you’re being merciful.

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  105. I sense a Catholic upbringing in this post …

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  106. She has nice tits though sofia. Plus what looks like an arm lodged in her throat so also talented.

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  107. deGrasse Tyson be da bomb –

    and sofia is much, much crueler than i realized

    mout

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  108. Gunny:

    It is harder looking at fucked up things in the world if you don’t believe there is any redemption for them on this earth.

    “There are other worlds than these…”

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  109. @ Tupac

    so what? Do you think I´d get a direct line with God so he would command me to stop whoring around instantly?

    I´d rather live Augustine´s life, keep the doubt until youth passed.

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  110. Hopefully or all this do gooder shit I have done is for naught he he he

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  111. the blonde in the first picture is not perceived as ugly as she really is because she is not deformed like people in othe rpictures

    think about her around normal people. Then you will see how ugly she is. Yet she is not a 1 like cigstache, more like a 3.

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  112. peopleofwalmart is one of the most evil sites I´ve ever visited.

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  113. Gig:

    Bawk bawk!

    Pio pio pio!

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  114. FP: I believe he meant Harlequin Ichthyosis.

    The picture of a perfect God who loves without subjecting you to hardship and pain is utterly ridiculous.

    And how can you respect or love a God who demands nothing from you, who never tests your loyalty?

    You have to earn that love. After all, He is the alpha.

    And our reaction to people and the kindness we show them is just one way in which we are always tested. You do what you can to stop what is wrong and to stop it decisively, which can and should involve harshness should starting with a gentle approach doesn’t work. You also do what you can to ease the suffering of those who suffer, they are echoes of the Christ figure, they test the rest of us and believing in God means their suffering will be forgotten and as nothing when in paradise.

    In essence, those who suffer innocently get the automatic heaven pass.

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  115. Pupu finds that extreme ugliness, except for obesity, can almost seem cute.

    If it’s merely a matter of facial deformity, I can sort of agree with this. But if we’re speaking of really bad skin and bad teeth – broken and dirty – then it’s harder for me to do so. I hate to admit it, but this is one of the parts of “Christian charity” I really have to struggle with. Really ugly people, especially if they’re dirty and smelly, upset the pagan side of my nature and make it depressed. For that matter, anything really ugly, including buildings, streets, and landscapes, tends to have that effect on it. Deformed people merely make me feel “sympathetic”, as one poster above puts it.

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  116. Do they write Harlequin Ichthyosis Romances in heaven?

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  117. As people of walmart shows, there really is not ugliness like Southern uneducated white-trash. These holy-rollers really corner the market.

    Yes, the argument from evil is silly, and no sophisticated atheist would ever make it. I assume Roissy is not seriously making the claim.

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  118. ”””””You also do what you can to ease the suffering of those who suffer, they are echoes of the Christ figure,””””””’

    Ok uhh what was that?

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  119. Bhetti

    FP: I believe he meant Harlequin Ichthyosis.

    OK, so you both know Greek shipping tycoons. rub it in.

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  120. on October 30, 2009 at 3:10 pm Marcus Aureliette

    Yes, I could say “ooh god doesn’t exist because of mongoloids, AIDS, and suffering” but all that rules out is the christian view of god. “God” could be a sick fuck or simply everything we perceive as bad has no actual “evil” intention.

    Or He could be Trelane, the Squire of Gothos!

    I´d rather live Augustine´s life, keep the doubt until youth passed.

    “Lord, make me chaste — but not yet.”

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  121. A message for all the lonely ladies out there.

    http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=5725

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  122. ”””””I bet not only does the fat kid get more cake, he also gets more p****y.”””’

    lol theres comments wtf

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  123. this is why sex exists. to mix up the genetic material for the next generation, keeping us one step ahead of the microbes and capturing the best mutations for the betterment of the species. and there’s a natural bell curve associated with this mixing, so 2 or 3 STD above the mean are your stunning beauties, whereas 2 or 3 std devs below produce the horror shows above. i know i’ve been skeptical in the past about universal standards of arttractiveness, but these and the wal-mart links remind me of the old joke that beauty is skin deep but ugly goes clear to the bone. yeesh. happy halloween, everyone.

    that said, i think there’s no need for gratuitous cruelty to ugly or obese people. unattractiveness doesn’t imply low intrinsic worth, even if social preferences associate them. mating and social value are separable.

    to roissy and the various religiously oriented posters: If there is a God, does He care about our suffering? If He is omnipotent, why does He allow it? Frankly, there are a lot worse fates out there than being unattractive. I’d save my theological agonizing for harder cases like the death of an innocent child or something like that.

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  124. Agreed, the girl in #1 is a 4. You’re tough, Roissy.

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  125. Smile on me Jesus, spinal meningitis got me down…

    Those wacky Ween boys…

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  126. p.s. with the confluence of Halloween and elections next week in Virginia – a slogan:

    CTHULU FOR GOVERNOR

    because…

    why settle for the *lesser* evil?

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  127. on October 30, 2009 at 3:27 pm Ferdinand Bardamu

    Ugly people made you an atheist, Roissy? Funny – the nonexistence of God or any higher power in this sick, twisted universe was what made me an atheist.

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  128. FP: Yes, Andreas Ichthyosis is an intimate acquaintance of ours.

    TC: The oldest survivor ain’t doing too bad:
    http://www.10news.com/health/3919722/detail.html

    He invited 10News anchor Carol Lebeau to workout with him at La Jolla Cove.

    Even though the salt water stings Ryan’s tender skin, his stroke is strong and his determination is nothing short of amazing. After swimming a mile in the ocean, he’s still smiling.

    Yeah, she’s totally into him.

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  129. Absent high levels of redeeming alphatude, professed atheism carries with it the stench of nerd.

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  130. maurice–

    this is why sex exists. to mix up the genetic material for the next generation, keeping us one step ahead of the microbes and capturing the best mutations for the betterment of the species.

    We got here all sapiens and stuff, and sometime hot looking, by having selection happen on those reshuffled results. Sexual selection and natural selection both.

    Not by having the biggest mess ups reproduce the most, or by having the most successful population slices reproducing the least but sending reliable, let no one die aid during times of famine or disaster to the highest birth rate, least intelligent and least capable parts of the worldwide human population.

    Dysgenics going on much in these first world lefty times?

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  131. I can’t believe Beastman posted that video.

    There was a time when human suffering inspired people to help others; now their suffering is laughed at and used as propaganda to convince people that God is a myth for suckers and a cancer that must be destroyed.

    What a disgusting display of nihilism.

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  132. maurice:

    why settle for the *lesser* evil?

    And it’s women who’re meant to be hypergamous?!

    Anyway, he’s been reduced to being ‘cute’.

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  133. you want to see nihilistic reaction to human suffering, go read the comments on bestgore.com, if you can stomach the pics. they will make you want to pull a noah’s ark and start over.

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  134. Why, might one ask?

    Because, barring a sophomoric exhuberance in one’s early youth or the cynicism of old age, atheism generally accompanies men with little or no experience with emotional highs and lows, thus in the fullness of human experiences.

    Also, one way to define a nerd is as someone who impressively processes limited data. Thus, a nerd will understand the material reality in the most spectacular fashion, but have no capacity for understanding the transcendent reality that exists parallel to the physical one.

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  135. “or, in the parlance of the day”

    You of all people stealing lines from Maude Lebowski?

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  136. Willard Libby

    Firepower

    There’s more. The horror, the horror: {generous links of depraved depravity et al}

    Worst, most vile compilation of shit I’ve ever seen. I’m gonna go fap to it now.

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  137. @doug- yeah, but now the weak don’t die off or reproduce less, they’re supported by government programs derived from the Christian charity that is one of the foundations of Western civilization. For good and ill, I guess – good from the point of view of the milk of human kindness, bad for the gene pool.

    Not only that, but Western societies have below replacement fertility rates, and the “best and brightest” (quotes intended both ironically and non-ironically) choose not to reproduce within these societies, leading to an “Idiocracy” effect. Those Wal-Mart pix? *that’s* who will inherit the earth, or at least this country.

    xsplat has it right – head out to SE Asia and shag the rest of your days away with young hot things. Depressing. We’re doomed.

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  138. least intelligent and least capable parts

    Don’t forget ugliest.

    If Danes and Ukrainians had average IQs of 80, I’d still want there to be more of them.

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  139. Dysgenics going on much in these first world lefty times?

    Clearly, you must do all that you can to combat it personally. Perhaps by producing offspring? Lots of them?

    Unless, you — like maurice — are an extremist follower of Cthulhu:
    “I am a God of Unknowable Evil. There are countless civilisations which have fallen beneath my horrible might. But in all my years I’ve never been so cruel to the universe as to produce offspring. What unspeakable beasts are you?” — Cthulhu

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  140. a test of your game:

    in a discussion a few minutes ago, the guy I bet is the greatest alpha at work said, to the women´s astonishment, that he won´t call back girls that ask for popcorn in their first time in cinema.

    I gave him two reasons for that. He said that one was correct, the other was also correct but didn´t apply to the short term. so I ask the forum: why you shouldn´t call back a girl who asks for popcorn?

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  141. What willard the flatbillers weren’t so bad they may be our saviors he he he

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  142. Ugly People Made Me An Atheist

    Ugly people have power.

    Power to topple even religious belief

    Therefore:
    Ugly people can end illegal immigration

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  143. ”””””’why you shouldn´t call back a girl who asks for popcorn?””

    She is not creative enoug to pop that shit and put it in her purse and also there better be some fucking brownies too. Along with some mountain dew cans. Which she surprizes you with to show what a smart good girl she is.

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  144. Todd:

    I can’t believe Beastman posted that video.

    There was a time when human suffering inspired people to help others; now their suffering is laughed at and used as propaganda to convince people that God is a myth for suckers and a cancer that must be destroyed.

    What a disgusting display of nihilism.

    Welcome to the jungle.

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  145. @bhetti – lol, but I didn’t say I was a follower or even a fan – just making a joke. Although you have to wonder, given the caliber and some of the statements of politicians these days.

    there’s the classic Simpsons episode in which Kang and Kodos, the evil slavering aliens, impersonate Bob Dole and Bill Clinton on Halloween/election eve ’96 to take over the world.

    Didn’t “The Exorcist” take place in Washington DC?

    Sheesh, maybe my joke was simply behind the actual times. Maybe Cthulu’s already in charge and cable news has been a huge conspiracy to keep this fact from the masses. Would explain a lot.

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  146. ROISSY: “The existence of ugly people made me an atheist”

    TUPAC: “The existence of Clio made me a Believer”

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  147. gig

    so I ask the forum: why you shouldn´t call back a girl who asks for popcorn?

    she knows Alphas exclusively apply that old trick of cutting a hole in the bottom of the container. We males are the ones that properly initiate that kind of stuff

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  148. feministix, kindly go play pretend somewhere else.

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  149. P.S. I don’t quite understand why Thursday bothers with all that church stuff. I mean, after all, EVERYONE KNOWS GINGERS DON’T HAVE SOULS.

    Hell, even gingervitis Chuck understands this, if even only on a subconscious level: there is nothing for Jesus to “save” in him.

    No soul = no salvation

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  150. The picture of a perfect God who loves without subjecting you to hardship and pain is utterly ridiculous.

    And how can you respect or love a God who demands nothing from you, who never tests your loyalty?

    You have to earn that love. After all, He is the alpha.

    And our reaction to people and the kindness we show them is just one way in which we are always tested. You do what you can to stop what is wrong and to stop it decisively, which can and should involve harshness should starting with a gentle approach doesn’t work. You also do what you can to ease the suffering of those who suffer, they are echoes of the Christ figure, they test the rest of us and believing in God means their suffering will be forgotten and as nothing when in paradise.

    In essence, those who suffer innocently get the automatic heaven pass.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Sometimes I really wish I was this retarded and ignorant.

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  151. aliasclio
    “Pupu finds that extreme ugliness, except for obesity, can almost seem cute.

    If it’s merely a matter of facial deformity, I can sort of agree with this. But if we’re speaking of really bad skin and bad teeth – broken and dirty – then it’s harder for me to do so.”

    Pupu agrees with Clio: when nature is the cause, ugliness evokes sympathy; when negligence is the cause, ugliness breeds contempt.

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  152. .

    Bhetti

    Unless, you — like maurice — are an extremist follower of Cthulhu

    meh. Only Americans can properly pull off Lovecraftian didacticism.

    And, only Yankees at that.

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  153. @tupac – that was beautiful. not eric cartman’s view on ginger kids – the other thing.

    @gig – the idea seems to be that it’s a small marker for spending/entitlement problems to come. Asking for stuff on a first date, even as small as popcorn at a movie. I wouldn’t care about that – i’d be more concerned about the lousy eating habits. Theater popcorn is nasty and greasy.

    @FP – lol, and there was a bit in “Diner” about that, if I’m not mistaken.

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  154. Is funny crack the new best seller?

    The good mood permeating.

    fucked up pics really take the edge off.

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  155. Bhetti-

    Clearly, you must do all that you can to combat it personally. Perhaps by producing offspring? Lots of them?

    But who could I find to volunteer to aid the aging but vigorous and in shape me in that endeavor? Young and nubile and brainy, beautiful and eager? With a seriously good girl background but a seriously horny and eager appetite, struggling with chastity, tempestuously passionate and obsessive when in love? Who? Me demanding much?

    Someone who has a seriously committed view about pair bonding and stable marriage, including for the children, but also the belief that women can and should support themselves, at levels commensurate with their gifts though effort, though putting family first. And the view that women capable of supporting themselves should not expect or want alimony under any label if a marriage does, despite great efforts, fall apart. Someone who wants a man to lead her, but only if that man feels her and knows her and wants best things for her.

    Have any volunteers meeting such super difficult criteria in mind?

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  156. Carl Sagan: omglike totally. but like u have been listening to satan, u kno?? God has a plan for all us k?? Just read the bible!!!! YOU WILL SEE THE LIGHT!! LET HIM INTO YOUR SOUL!! u know u want to.

    maurice: I didn’t actually believe you were an extremist Cthulhu follower.

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  157. Gunslingergregi

    Is funny crack the new best seller?

    The good mood permeating.

    fucked up pics really take the edge off.

    hellz yeah, until obsidian’s blog is up and lilgrl posts partypics of her chic Halloween french maid costume

    it’s what we got

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  158. Bhetti

    FP: I believe he meant Harlequin Ichthyosis.

    The picture of a perfect God who loves without subjecting you to hardship and pain is utterly ridiculous.

    That’s why, when I’m blessed with my own passel o’ harlequin babies, I want their teachers to sprinkle em’ with a dash of salt to show them how much they care. Just before coaxing out the red-rocket for a little litany of archdiocese lovin’, of course.

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  159. @bhetti – yeah I know, but I am increasingly disturbed at the prospect that my joke may not be fictitious. The Omen??!?? Hello, people…?!?!

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  160. Bhetti–

    Oh and down with polygamy, if done right by the right man.

    Only if done really right I should add I understand, and only with the seriously right man.

    (I refuse to kowtow to feminists and call it polygyny. As if the polyandry exists, to a rounding error. As if. Take back the language men. It’s polygamy. Always was, still is, science doesn’t suggest otherwise. If you say polygyny you’re kissing feminist ass based upon a logical possibility but a real world non occurrence.)

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  161. I think not a joke pretty much all growing up I have noticed the massive push to get people to not have kids or that having kids is some sort of evil on the earth.

    Abortion rights
    condoms
    date rape
    child support
    divorce laws
    parents worried about you having kids before marriage
    kids acting like little brats towards their dads in all movies
    people saying things like kids are so expensive
    you have to be “ready” financially to have kids
    Its soooooooooo hard to raise kids

    Who do you think all this was really aimed at not having kids?

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  162. To other people having kids is there form of retirement.

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  163. Yeppers, I agree, Gunslinger. Its all about hedonism, and against responsibility.

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  164. Cthulu’s been the going thing for years now.

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  165. The picture of a perfect God who loves without subjecting you to hardship and pain is utterly ridiculous.

    And how can you respect or love a God who demands nothing from you, who never tests your loyalty?

    You have to earn that love. After all, He is the alpha.

    He negged His bitch Job repeatedly, with plagues of boils and all kinds of horrible shit, and this only increased His value in the eyes of Job.

    Bible proves Game!

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  166. Yea lurker but raising kids is a pieve of cake just ask my wife shes having a good time.

    Plus I don’t think he will ever ask why did daddy miss my school play because of work?

    Or act like a little bitch about some trivial item dealing with some thing I didn’t do because I am out taking care of the family.

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  167. Nor will there be some snide comment from the wife siding with the kid against me on yet more trivial shit.

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  168. “What if God makes some people ugly on the outside so they have to learn to develop their inside more?”

    God doesn’t make ugly people ugly. Genetic decay does that. Genetic decay was not God’s intent, but then neither was sin.

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  169. Pupu, I don’t feel contempt for fat people, for example. Dirt is harder for me to process than fat, but at the same time I know that many people (in “first world” countries) are dirty more because of mental or physical illness than through some moral flaw of their own.

    As I said, it’s the pagan in me rather than the moralist that recoils in distaste from ugliness. For the most part, though, I have it under control, recognising that we’re all destined to be ugly one day…

    Maurice,
    Frankly, there are a lot worse fates out there than being unattractive. I’d save my theological agonizing for harder cases like the death of an innocent child or something like that.

    Yes.

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  170. Gunny

    Yea lurker but raising kids is a pieve of cake just ask my wife shes having a good time.

    Plus I don’t think he will ever ask why did daddy miss my school play because of work?

    Or act like a little bitch about some trivial item dealing with some thing I didn’t do because I am out taking care of the family.

    Yes that culture, lead by American feminist influenced sitcoms and movies is poisonous. Just such dreck.

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  171. Oh, shit. There is always a time when a comedian wants to be serious and screws the whole act.
    Roissy, you are entertaining when you do your alpha thing, but when you sidetrack, it is a disaster.
    You don’t know shit about metaphysics or theology, if you use this example as proof of Atheism. Keep away from adults things.
    Please bury this article under 12 other funny ones, quick !

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  172. @clio – ah, but there’s a kind of beauty in old age, if not attractiveness per se, as Rembreandt and others have shown.

    Why do you view your distaste for ugliness as pagan? what’s specifically polythiestic about it? Or is it just an aesthetic association with the values of pre-Chrstian antiquity? I’d just call it an aesthetic preference, an example of the generic attraction all people have with beauty (however defined) and a corresponding revulsion from ugliness.

    I couldn’t help but note that you did not comment on Tupac’s awesome road-to-Damascus expression of faith above. Modesty, no doubt. And this after he changed his avatar to reflect the muse of drama, to complement that of history.

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  173. the dude´s reasoning is that a girl who asks herself for popcorn is showing herself to be too much authoritative. girls should wait for the guy to offer it.

    I also answered that it is not cool for girls to show any impulse towards eating,specially so early and specially towards such trash as popcorn

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  174. with = > toward. usage error, sorry.

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  175. Doug: Assuming you did find such a woman who is — as I understand from what you’re saying:
    a) smart (not as much as you are)
    b) pretty
    c) has a high libido (but is not a slut… difficult combination, isn’t it?)
    d) respectable background
    e) strongly financially independent
    f) strong family values
    g) selectively happy with a polygamous model
    h) passionate and full of enthusiasm
    i) ridiculously younger than you
    j) likes you to lead in faith that you will do it in her best interests, for the most part.
    k) crazy about you.

    Would that impossible list really be enough?

    Because, when you put it that way, I definitely do have someone in mind. And you do too 😉

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  176. Carl Sagan: omglike totally. but like u have been listening to satan, u kno?? God has a plan for all us k?? Just read the bible!!!! YOU WILL SEE THE LIGHT!! LET HIM INTO YOUR SOUL!! u know u want to.

    I just want to take the opportunity and mention that about 40% of Americans LITERALLY believe that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, jesus was born of a virgin, all life was created in 6 days and so on.

    40%!!!!!

    This blog (among others) always harps on how civilization is going to hell etc. because of the black man or feminism or some other nonsense.

    No.

    40%’ers + modern weapons (i.e. nukes) = the likely extinction of our species.

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  177. Maurice–

    Tupac’s obsession with Clio, always a tad tongue in cheek but real as well, is pure chivalric pedestaling, in the extreme.

    However, it’s one woman pedestalling in the early and strong tradition of bardic chivalry, not the pedestalling of all women. (The leftist version is indeed the pedestaling of all women, lest one fall into the sin of being judgmental – against anything other than transgression of the left cannon where judgmentalism is not only permitted buy required e.g. “racist” “sexist” “nationalist” “chauvanist” “ethnocentric” “misogynist”. )

    One woman for real reasons.

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  178. Probably better to obsess about what you have but maybe on her deathbed she will convert who knows.

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  179. He gave up the good fight for a “dreamwoman” that does not reciprocate. Hopefully she is being kind by finally revealing flaws so as to break the spell for if not then maybe it is a true love for the ages when the drem becomes the nightmare but the love remains.

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  180. @abelard – yeah. and? it’s touching, in the same way your courtship of Heloise was touching as well, in a quasi-real cyberspace sort of way. I am a big cheerleader for both those e-pairings and others to come. I know that kind of thing annoys a lot of commenters, but I take the view that genuine human kindness and affection are sufficiently rare that they should always be encouraged – and when their green shoots appear in a forum as cynical and rough as this can be, well, it’s a thing to behold. Alas, Tupac’s volcanic e-love is apparently destined to remain forever unrequited. The Muse of History is blind indeed in this instance.

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  181. Don’t really follow the theology here. Existence of ugly people implies non-existence of God?

    As far as being punished for sins goes, some religious people would say that these peoples’ physical ugliness is in some way a punishment (i.e. karma) for sins in a previous existence.

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  182. For all the guys who pedestal Aliasclio, have they stopped to consider that the picture of her is not recent, but likely 15 years old or more?

    I mean, guys here are quick to talk about ‘The Wall’ and cougars, yet have built a whole pedestaling force around a woman who uses a picture of what she looked like 15 years ago, rather than today.

    Are there any recent photos of her that she has posted?

    Shouldn’t the Tupac-Aliasclio relationship be more of a nephew-aunt nature?

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  183. Tupac’s obsession with Clio, always a tad tongue in cheek but real as well, is pure chivalric pedestaling, in the extreme.

    However, it’s one woman pedestalling in the early and strong tradition of bardic chivalry,

    aka Oneitis.

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  184. @anon

    dream becomes the nightmare but the love remains

    Yea a true test

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  185. “that said, i think there’s no need for gratuitous cruelty to ugly or obese people. ”

    There’s no need for gratuitous cruely to stupid people either.

    The genetic jackpot winners must adhere to something analogous to noblesse oblige. Regadless of social policies one deemly sadly necessary, in one’s personal life one shouldn’t behave reprehensibly towards the less fortunate . We are not animale.

    As I’ve said, the militant atheists on the rise are as damaged (if not more) as the fervent believers. I suspect many of them have or are borderline Asperger’s. As intellectually capable as they can be in some ways, they are positively retarded in others.

    These freaks can cause a lot of damage to civilization and must be watched carefully.

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  186. deemly=deems

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  187. Tupac seems to use clio as the template for the female ideal and enjoys her mind and persona, with no real intent of having her as his (otherwise he’d Game her, which he clearly knows how to do and well). His little comments at her are the his version of getting her to ‘lighten up’ and teasing her for her inability to do so. It’s also a convenient comedic tool to illustrate the plight of a beta, which he is always acutely conscious of, despite his acquiring Game.

    And I can be corrected if I’ve misunderstood.

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  188. I think he is serious and has been on her mind. She cannot fathom true love though and does not really feel up to the challenge of testing his resolve with reality or she may feel as you do that he never had real intent or up to the challenge of turning him into a one woman man.

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  189. Bhetti–

    Yes, I think you’re spot on with this last.

    God I love smart, insightful girls, esp. if they’re passionate too. So fun.

    Tupac hints around about his being more or less lesser alpha at this point. That may be but I suspect he’s using harsh criteria. In contrast to e.g. Obsidian, who’s nothing if not a 5’8″ super peacocking fronter, and god’s gift to women. Just ask him. He’s endlessly told us. And some have bought it.

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  190. I think he is serious and has been on her mind.

    But she is 20 years older than him….. And he presumably doesn’t know what she looks like today, only what she looked like before the Internet age.

    Didn’t Roissy have an article last week about the fiction of cougar/young man pairings?

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  191. Anonymous–

    Read Bhetti–

    I really don’t believe that Tupac’s expressed devotion (again always a little tongue in cheek, but also real too) to Aliasclio slowed him down any in his quest for real life hotties to bang, to love him, to love, and so on.

    That’s the real point. And that’s what Bhetti was getting at.

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  192. i see some hybird vigor going on in that third picture of the aborigines.

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  193. *beep*……..*beep*……*beep*….

    HUMORLESS PUA NERD DETECTED IN RED SECTOR A

    *beep*…….*beep*…..*beep*….

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  194. Tupac is trying to get me to “lighten up”?

    Bhetti, you deeply wound me. As far as I am concerned, I am the very personification of lightness, esp. when I write on my own blog rather than here.

    Dear me. Does no one perceive my tongue-in-cheekiness?

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  195. Hey man it’s Halloween weekend….who doesn’t enjoy wearing masks.

    Truth be told, the last flickering dying embers of my former romanticism find expression here. Clio is a good foil. The real world has already done a good job beating it out of me.

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  196. p.s. The photo of me is around 6 years old. When I first put it up it was around 3 years old.

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  197. Dear me. Does no one perceive my tongue-in-cheekiness?

    Heh. Hmm.

    You could use a little push now and then.

    Like Ferdinand said, you’re a dying breed.

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  198. clio–

    You are quintessentially Apollonian, and also a religiously influenced good girl. Well the two are quite compatible.

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  199. Clio,

    Since it is impossible for you to pull off grammatical mistakes, Pupu suggests you trying emoticon every now and then? 😉

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  200. miami is a long way from montreal or ottawa, literally and figuratively in this case. i hadn’t focused on the age difference, but Internet love is abstract and ageless, at least in theory (or possibility).

    i hope our two principals chime in – but I can guess what they’d say. seen it before.

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  201. No Doug, she was a nerd girl.

    p.s. still waiting on the new pic Clio

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  202. TC/aliasclio: I apologise!! Clearly you need to share your good cheer and help him find the last vestiges of his romantic soul, clio.

    A good story about… Thomas of Aquinas.

    Or something.

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  203. This is an argument against the omnigod of Dr. Pangloss and “He’s got the whole world in his hands” Sunday school children’s songs.

    It is not an argument against the Christian God described in CS Lewis’ Out of the Silent Planet and Milton’s Paradise Lost. In the Biblical account, Earth is prey to Sin and Death and ruled by Satan, hence deformed babies, genocide, etc.

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  204. Yes, Tupac, I’m getting that organized. But remember, it’s going to be a new pic of the old me, er, that is, the young me. No recent photos.

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  205. Bhetti:

    Clearly you need to share your good cheer and help him find the last vestiges of his romantic soul, clio.

    No thanks, I’d rather keep it dead and buried under 6 feet of dirt…with a stake through its heart.

    Get more chix that way.

    Yes, Tupac, I’m getting that organized. But remember, it’s going to be a new pic of the old me, er, that is, the young me.

    I’m placing my order for an industrial sized case of KY as I type.

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  206. sheesh, posts crossed in the ether of the net.

    @clio- lightness? not the word i’d choose. you are no doubt not as prim and proper as your prose style (or you wouldn’t be seen in a place like this), and you wrote at one point of youthful romantic entanglements. but you do come off as rather serious. And I know whereof I speak, being afflicted with a similar writing style. that doesn’t mean we don’t love ya, but it does mean you could indeed lighten up a bit. exhibit A: “dear me” …?!?

    @tupac – who’s the nerd? me? true ‘nuf, but i’m no PUA, which is what confused me. If so, yeah, i know your Internet love is tongue in cheek, but also is an expression of something real. as i think you just noted. clio’s persona/type is that which, in days gone by, easily inspired devotion from a certain kind of man. which is why the whole e-drama has been such fun to watch.

    clio never showed tupac any e-affection in return, even in similar humorous form – only bafflement and occasional anger. really, is it too much to ask to play along and show a little e-ankle in response to such devoted e-courtship? 🙂

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  207. maurice:

    Clio was the nerd girl. Ask Thursday.

    clio never showed tupac any e-affection in return, even in similar humorous form – only bafflement and occasional anger.

    Because Clio is not a slut, online or otherwise.

    To her credit.

    It’s all good. I still enjoy knowing I make her blush from time to time, even if she doesn’t show it.

    I would have paid good money to have seen her face when she read Racer’s screed.

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  208. ””’I’m placing my order for an industrial sized case of KY as I type.””””””

    See I was right he is in love he he he

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  209. Sorry to burst people’s bubble here, but the research shows there isn’t any relationship between how good looking someone is and how happy they are. I refer you again to Jonathan Haidt’s The Happiness Hypothesis.

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  210. @tupac – stake in the heart and KY jelly. Sounds like a hell of a Halloween weekend. although I doubt your beloved Muse of History is much of a fan of that particular holiday.

    btw, ordered that T book you recommended in the running-barefoot thread a month or so ago. will take a look.

    @LGH – those are all works of literature and so allegories, not the real thing ( of scripture or theology).

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  211. e-ankle lol

    Speaking of e love where the heck is my exception don’t tell me I lost another one.

    See really that is all it takes just keep putting yourself out there and eventually you find one that fits.

    Game it does a body good.

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  212. game game game till ya find one that meets criteria and fits into the master plan.

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  213. @tupac – noted, but affection =!= sluttiness. ex: Bhetti has a clear e-thing for Doug but not remotely in a slutty way. Clio’s cool and aloof attitude toward your ardent supplication was/is (which? is it over now that we are discussing it in broad daylight?) a marvelous throwback to traditional courtship, even if with a wink. A lot of pleasure in watching it unfold over the, what, last year or so…?

    the RacerX post was a bit over the top, even if in the same vein. but sure, blushing must have been the least of it.

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  214. Here’s the thing about Tupac’s semi tongue in cheek pedestalling of aliasclio.

    I doubt if he ever really wanted the real clio. I also think the real alias clio felt that, perhaps subconsiously, perhaps consciously.

    Instead Tupac wanted an ideal that he could interact with, but that in the public space of this forum he partly constructed as well. An ideal based on real things that are true of aliasclio, but ignoring anything not with his program.

    As Bhetti said, an ideal, that he could tease and interact with.

    I have to say that I agree with Maurice. In actual fact, aliasclio wasn’t very gracious or creative or fun in interacting with Tupac. She wasn’t very self assured. Instead she felt a bit alarmed, and threatened, and in reality wasn’t that perceptive about him.

    This will likely win me no points with Tupac, but I think it’s pretty accurate.

    However, this is not to say that Tupac’s initial perceptions about what is attractive about aliasclio were wrong. I don’t think they were.

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  215. that doesn’t mean we don’t love ya, but it does mean you could indeed lighten up a bit. exhibit A: “dear me” …?!?

    That’s part of her charm Maurice. Where would I find someone like that in my milieu? It’s like something out of a classic film, or an old novel. I love it.

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  216. Doug nails it FTW.

    I don’t mind the cold shoulder. Sometimes it’s more fun and theatrical to play the tortured soul than the guy who Has It All.

    Life gets boring when you always win.

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  217. @doug, tupac – agreed. but i also think that the real clio (as opposed to her online self) is not quite so old fashioned, not to say prudish. the formal writing comes in part from a conservative demeanor and in part from a career in academia, i’d guess. maybe i’m wrong, though.

    but yeah, she is lovable in her way, is she not? clio, are you out there? are your fingers tingling? come and tell us what you think about all this e-love…

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  218. @doug, tupac – agreed. but i also think that the real clio (as opposed to her online self) is not quite so old fashioned, not to say prudish.

    I’m dying to find out about that part of her.

    but yeah, she is lovable in her way, is she not?

    Absolutely. A slender, pretty, feminine nerd girl with Old World grace and elegance will always inspire me.

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  219. …and a wave of relief sweeps over me as I happily reaffirm that god does not exist, and I am free to go on sinning without worry.

    More inane stupidity. Thankfully God doesn’t care whether you can find a scientific study to validate her existence or not.

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  220. on October 30, 2009 at 7:17 pm gunslingergregi

    Its always easier to come up with excuse as to why we lose than why we win.

    When you lose you can always pick yourself up dust yourself off and try again.

    When you win what else is there to prove?

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  221. I don’t quite understand why Thursday bothers with all that church stuff.

    See below for the answer :

    the research shows there isn’t any relationship between how good looking someone is and how happy they are.

    Research conducted by you?

    Or the rationalizations of an ugly person?

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  222. Looking at the extremely ugly or mentally retarded, Ive harbored some similar thoughts to Roissy on the subject.

    Maybe, if there is a God, he’s a “tough-love” kinda supernatural being.

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  223. For me, the absolute worst thing to observe is not the ugly people, but the retarded people. And not the “so retarded as to be happy in their little world” people like the Downs people. I mean those with borderline sub-clinical levels of retardation where they still possess enough self-awareness to KNOW that they are fucked up and to KNOW how others perceive them, yet are powerless to alter their behavior. They are not the happy drooling idiots. I can see in their faces the sadness of too much self-awareness.

    I always have to look away in anguish.

    Probably because they remind me of me in my own way.

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  224. maurice–

    @tupac – noted, but affection =!= sluttiness. ex: Bhetti has a clear e-thing for Doug but not remotely in a slutty way.

    You have no idea how slutty she is privately with me. She’s become completely abandoned with me. Utterly. Beyond hot. And she’s a virgin. There go a lot of theories.

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  225. @doug – well, OK, wow, but in this public forum full of aggressive and libidinous men she retains a very proper demeanor. as well as her usual intelligence and insights. so i’ll leave whatever e-salaciousness may exist to the two of you, Tristan and Isolde, Romeo and Juliet, Abelard and Heloise.

    also, doesn’t necessarily destroy any theories- i bet she was not that way when she first started e-mailing you. needed to build up trust to go from e-madonna to (curious) e-whore. (bhetti, not that i think you are actually any of these things.) even virgins have sexuality and sex drives.

    QULN.

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  226. Unlike Tupac, my interest in Clio is not one based on traditional chivalry. Rather, my desire is to provide Miss Clio with the purest, most intense forms of erotic and sexual pleasures she ever has or ever will experience. And I would provide this service for her for a single night, without any demands made on her time or emotions beyond. Despite her calm, cool nature, I am sure Miss Clio, like most women, has her secret sexual desires lurking deep within her. If true, one of those is eroticism for the sake of eroticism. But she is quite modest and a challenge, and a worthy one at that, hence the continued persistence of my efforts. I dare say most women have the capacity to enjoy nothing but pure sexual pleasure for a short period of time, even one night, given the right circumstances. I think this is one aspect of the female sex that Roissy has so skillfully written about here. Most women like to be nothing but completely naughty every now and then. It only takes the right type of man to tap into that. She would feel terribly guilty the next day, but it would be a pleasurable sort of guilt.

    Blushing is the least of the effects I would have on Miss Clio if we ever had the pleasure of mutually exploring the finer, erotic things in life.

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  227. Lucifer might like this:

    “Each and every individual has an almost comical desire to see himself destroyed. This puts an end to the waiting and the filling of time with nonsense. To fill time means to make time tense.
    This doesn’t argue against the survivalist theory, but is in fact supported by most Neo-Darwinian speculations. This race, in this form, is obsolete. It can’t carry the possibilities of the future(s) for too long.
    Few individuals can tolerate the mental void of Nihilistic Chaos which surrounds him. Always there is some little quirk or some little error which causes him some misery, pain or destruction. Without the need to change diapers, most mothers would strangle their infants.
    It always appears that this little something or that could have been avoided and, if we didn’t wish to hide from the inherent ugliness of the human condition, we could have side-stepped this misery.
    But, remember, those who do not readily, eagerly and graciously accept this world of conventional in-voluntarism will be labeled misfits and psychopaths. As such, be prepared — for enemies are needed to blame for every “bad ending.”
    Look at the dinosaur — they might have blamed the automobile. And if you look at things perversely enough, the death of the automobile [Peak Oil?] might create a species more horrifying than the dinosaur.

    Even with horror and death aside, few can tolerate complete success. It leads to boredom and to the final realization that we are all food within the belly of a giant monster whose final goals we only have a glimmer of — and the glimmer we see is not comforting.” — C.S.H.

    HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

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  228. Maurice–

    Yeah. She’s one man slutty only, but totally abandoned there. Given permission and a little encouragement (all it took) — fireworks!! Really. Damn broke, zowie.

    She’s basically been raised in fairly liberal Islam, with her wanting to a bit more touch base. Pretty much rocks.

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  229. Racer — agreed that surmounting the Clio prude shield would be most gratifying. I too have known of such pleasures, with other women.

    Don’t know if I’m up to the Clio Challenge, however. Godspeed.

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  230. Tupac…

    The highest challenges are always the worthiest and, as you say, most gratifying, because they are the most difficult. The Clio Challenge is something I will always be ambitious to undertake. It is one of undying hope and desire.

    Her prude shield can be surmounted. Any woman’s prude shield can be breached, if one knows the proper tactics.

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  231. Racer, is your real name “D”?

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  232. “Servicing Miss Clio” has to be one of the most brilliant titles in literature.

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  233. on October 30, 2009 at 8:14 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’self-awareness to KNOW that they are fucked up and to KNOW how others perceive them, yet are powerless to alter their behavior. ”””””

    Yea the mom is like that now. Almost enough of an excuse but not quite.

    Watching forest gump.

    Nothing like running full speed through the woods or down a mountain.

    ”””””Even with horror and death aside, few can tolerate complete success. It leads to boredom and to the final realization that we are all food within the belly of a giant monster whose final goals we only have a glimmer of — and the glimmer we see is not comforting.” — C.S.H.”””””””””’

    I’ll let ya all know but it is more scary than a horror mivie for sure.

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  234. on October 30, 2009 at 8:16 pm gunslingergregi

    Cheated out of destiny I know how he feels. Poor lt dan. Fucking arabs and there inability to aim.

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  235. on October 30, 2009 at 8:24 pm gunslingergregi

    Really though how many fucking roads can the mind take

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  236. lurker
    The first picture—zunder and his now ex-wfe—she caught him cheating with bessie out in the cow patch.

    ~

    No, I passed on Bessie as I am not partial to your ‘sloppy seconds’, Lurker.

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  237. Sofia,
    I like your new hairstyle.
    I’d hit it.
    But I’ll pass on your ‘girl-game’ blog.

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  238. on October 30, 2009 at 8:48 pm gunslingergregi

    But an asian woman saved his soul too we shall see.

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  239. These pics can’t be real. They look like freaks!

    “Me too. I’ve had more black pussy than a welfare midwife.”

    Sorry, but this is too funny and I’m gonna steal this line.

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  240. The blonde in the first photo would be a “3” in my area.

    Bleach her teach white and give er a makeover, she might even reach -5-status.

    Shit, she’s a blonde, give her 1 point. She’s not fat, give her 2 more.

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  241. on October 30, 2009 at 11:19 pm msexceptiontotherule

    I knew there was a reason why I only go to walmart at 3am to buy tampons because every other store is closed. That’s motivation to make sure I have properly prepared myself for the monthly ladybusiness while shopping at places that are not walmart. Regardless, that is a mission that I must complete myself: asking any guy to go out and buy something from an aisle with all the choices that are invariably present is basically asking them to bring home the wrong one and writing it down doesn’t help because they’re not going to bring in the paper you’ve written what you want them to get inside the store – if it makes it to the car in the first place.

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  242. on October 30, 2009 at 11:21 pm msexceptiontotherule

    oohh wrong thread wrong place. But when I think about it, that picture is really likely to be of two people who shop walmart regularly. I bet they went and had their picture taken at one that does photography sessions. So screw that irrelevance factor.

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  243. I will reduce my opinion of her a bit because of her plain nails. She knew she was going to be taking a picture with her bfriend, and she didn’t even get her nails done.

    Womens nails are one of those markers which we can use to discern her general opinion of herself.

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  244. I have to say that I agree with Maurice. In actual fact, aliasclio wasn’t very gracious or creative or fun in interacting with Tupac. She wasn’t very self assured. Instead she felt a bit alarmed, and threatened, and in reality wasn’t that perceptive about him.

    Mean, Doug1. Not really accurate, either. I was neither alarmed nor threatened by Tupac. In fact, I didn’t take him seriously – or at any rate I thought there was only a pinch of seriousness in his oceans of teasing.

    But it is true that I didn’t know how to respond, even knowing he was teasing. (You listening, Tupac?) Let’s just say I’ve had some, er, “traumatic experiences” associated with misinterpreting male teasing. That is, thinking it was playful teasing and then finding that there was real hostility behind it, mixed with real attraction. Never thought that about Tupac (and besides, I don’t know him in real time), but even so it’s hard to put certain memories behind you and they affect the way you interact with the world.

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  245. On a different topic entirely:

    I was listening to talk radio today, and the topic was how kids store-bought holloween costumes for females are all slutty in appearance. Even the ones for grade school females.

    THis just proves that:
    A- Females like to show lots of skin, no matter what their age. They are natural exhibitionists.

    B- Females like to belong to whatever is considered “cool”. Hence their devotion to “pop culture”.

    C- Females have a natural slutty nature.

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  246. You all made my Friday night at home worthwhile. I love when you guys get all touchy and feely and stuff. Clio melting her heart, Bhetti becoming a wanton e-slut , lurker and zunder romancing the moon…

    Oh and Walmart hits everyone with the ugly stick, it’s in their mission and vision statement.

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  247. aoefe–

    Bhetti becoming a wanton e-slut

    I trust you are an accomplished expert at pistol marksmanskip.

    I am.

    Because I challenge you to a duel, over the honor of my Bhetti.

    Beware and be forearmed.

    J’accuse.

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  248. LOL Doug. 😉

    You and I both know that I’d leap to Bhetti’s honour (Canadian spelling). I also knew Clio had a heart. And I know that Lurker and Zunder have the tempestuous kind of love affair.

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  249. aoefe

    honour (Canadian spelling)

    Get real.

    Brit spelling.

    You abject colonials. Until even they didn’t really want you any more.

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  250. aoefe-

    Hey. Let’s leave aside this BS.

    You seem full of vim and vigor.

    You really feeling as chipper as you seem?

    Tamiflu conquors all?

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  251. I feel remarkably better than I did the last three days…but I did learn an aquaintance is on life support and not expected to make it due to H1. 😦 She had compromised health to begin with…which put her at higher risk.

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  252. Well good for you and your healthy genes. And getting tamiflu, maybe?

    I’m so proud of you for not going into work today, even though you felt able to, soley to not run the risk of infecting others.

    Even though they need you big time at your work – that you top apex manage, at least locally.

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  253. I do top apex manage, surprising from a bottom, antapex type eh?

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  254. Oy vey, the things I would do to aoeofe’s lips…

    In fact, I believe “aoefe” is the sound made by those children’s squeaky toys you accidentally step on in the darkness of the night. You know, the air-filled ones that wheeze “eeeee-fuh, eeeee-fuh” when you squash them with your foot.

    I bet that’s the sound she makes when you plow her folds with your mighty warrior. 😉

    eeeeeeeeeeeee-fuh

    eeeeeeeeeeeeee-fuh

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  255. I will admit to a slight wheeze but i think it’s the h1…. 😉

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  256. Clio:

    But it is true that I didn’t know how to respond, even knowing he was teasing. (You listening, Tupac?) Let’s just say I’ve had some, er, “traumatic experiences” associated with misinterpreting male teasing. That is, thinking it was playful teasing and then finding that there was real hostility behind it, mixed with real attraction. Never thought that about Tupac (and besides, I don’t know him in real time), but even so it’s hard to put certain memories behind you and they affect the way you interact with the world.

    No worries. Just let me know. If there’s anything I can do for you…er…or rather…to you, just let me know…

    Tupac meets Clio and her well to do father for the first time:

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  257. Fucked up the tag for the video.

    Try this:

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  258. Aw fuck it

    start at 7:22

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  259. Pupu = Jordan

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  260. aoefe–

    Your lips, and your sexy sexist male entrapping red lipstick, are very kissable aoefe. Very enticing. Very entrapping….

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  261. Clio: Can you hammer a six inch spike through a board with your penis?

    Tupac: Not right now.

    Clio: A girl’s gotta have her standards.

    Hmmmm can’t imagine her saying those words, but I do imagine her looking like that.

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  262. She might not say it but you know she’s thinking it.

    They all do. 😉

    Lova ya babe. 🙂

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  263. Maybe I typed too soon when I said Roissy should explore the Om3ga Factor. 😦

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  264. In actual fact, aliasclio wasn’t very gracious or creative or fun in interacting with Tupac. She wasn’t very self assured. Instead she felt a bit alarmed, and threatened, and in reality wasn’t that perceptive about him.

    I agree. Aliasclio failed to meet Tupac even a quarter of the way, to reciprocate the witty banter. She will never again have such a comedic genius do this much work to stay in character and maintain the fervor. She didn’t know how to use the treat she will never receive anywhere else.

    Sort of like an 11 year old boy going to the playboy mansion.

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  265. You sure that white looking kid in the aborigines picture is not the child of a member of the camera crew or a couple of tourists who painted her up for a photo op?

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  266. What’s good, peeps?

    Interesting discussion.

    As one who was born with the Morning Star on the Eastern horizon as I emerged from my mother’s womb, and have always been regarded as rather good looking, I too have thought about this question that Roissy raises. Of course, being a Believer, I take a differing tack on the matter than the R, and see it along the lines that other folks, such as Pupu, do. I am content with the idea that I do not know all things, but God does, and has His reasons for doing, and/or allowing, what He does.

    And I’ll take it a step further: ugly or misshapen people in a way, serve as a mirror to us, reflecting who we are in the inside. In fact I was just listening to an excellent interview on the local NPR affiliate here in Philly, about a guy who was busted for white collar crime and was remanded to a prison that doubled as a Leper’s Colony down in Louisana. He wrote a book about it, which I may pickup, since I just happen to be stumbling accross the discussion now.

    Anyway, the author makes the point, that very often, the “beautiful people” can be and often are just as ugly in terms of actions and temperment, as those with congenital ugliness-much moreso I would say, because at least the physically ugly cannot help their condition; those who are “beautiful” often abuse their gifts because they can. We all know full well that good looking people can and do get away with all kinds of stuff, BECAUSE they’re good looking. And as for the notion of ugly people commiting more suicides?-really? OK, so how does one account for the many suicides in the Hollywood/Glamour world? As we all know, and this is especially true for Women, physical beauty is fleeting, and lots of formerly hot Women fall HARD upon finding this out the hard way.

    To bring it back full circle to Game, this is why I am such a strong advocate for Inner Game, which is about developing one’s character, having and showing grace to those less fortunate than us. Some of the most ungrateful, haughty, and downright meanest people I’ve ever come accross in this world haven’t been those who resemble the people above in the pics-theyve been the people who look a lot closer to those in the Glitterati.

    I believe God made Ugly People to teach the rest of us powerful lessons about the Human Condition-and not necessarily those that we may think.

    I’m just sayin’.

    The Obsidian

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  267. @anony, doug – agreed.

    @clio – sheesh, we weren’t trying to be mean – just pointing out, correctly, that you responded coldly, if at all, to tupac’s virtuoso performance. you said why, and that’s cool.

    now what? is the tupac and clio show over? *sniff*

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  268. Surely David Alexander can see there are people who are worse than he is?

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  269. “now what? is the tupac and clio show over? *sniff*”

    Say it ain’t so!

    On another note I had a dream last night and I’m sure it was because of this thread. I dreamt I was pregnant and while having an ultra-sound they discovered there were 14 babies! The pictures of the babies were like actual photographs – some of the babies were beautiful and looked like Angelina’s baby, Shiloh, and some looked like the guy in the top picture. Good news part of the story was I didn’t care what they looked like I just was worried about having to stay off my feet for nine months. Too funny. Roissy you even effect my sleep. 😉

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  270. Actually, Roissy, ugliness is one of the more unfortunate effects of Adam and Eve’s fall.

    And you laugh at that baby now, but twenty years from now, he’s going to be falling on quarterbacks and killing them.

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  271. *We now interrupt the usual programming to bring this announcement*

    The Eagle has landed:

    theobsidianfiles.wordpress.com

    Spread the word.

    The Obsidian

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  272. Tupac,
    “Pupu=Jordan”

    Jordan? Michael?

    Maurice,
    Pupu won’t run this year. She only did one year, ehich has gotten her the tee that tells the world that she did it!

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  273. Sorry, *which*

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  274. Obsidian your blog has a good look to it – tasteful. I’m sure your traffic will be increasing exponentially.

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  275. Ugly people are the killers of God…or at least the Santa Claus idea that most believers seem to favor as God. If you need God to be Santa Claus in order to believe in it, then you’re made of fail to start with.

    When I see an ugly person, I don’t pity them or feel particularly repulsed because I understand that I am just as mortal as they are. If anything, I marvel at their survival, and hope that I am not so weak that becoming ugly (as we all do eventually) won’t kill me.

    …and if it does, that it will kill me quietly.

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  276. on October 31, 2009 at 1:15 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’And you laugh at that baby now, but twenty years from now, he’s going to be falling on quarterbacks and killing them.””””’

    laughed my ass off at that one. Might be true.

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  277. on October 31, 2009 at 1:36 pm gunslingergregi

    Tupoc response should have been:

    Of course I can.

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  278. Shoot…typing while in the middle of cooking.

    That should have been I hope I’m not so weak that becoming ugly would kill me.

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  279. Tonight is the night for ugly and skanky and sometimes they go hand in hand.

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  280. Being reincarnated to suffer for misdeeds in past life is quite a silly notion. Criminals are punished in order to make them understand that the anti-social or criminal act they committed was wrong. In order to learn the lesson, they must remember the act they committed. Since reincarnation, by definition, involves mind-wiping before each birth, the “guilty” has no memory of their previous misdeed. Punishing people for acts they have no memory of makes no sense at all.

    Also, what kind of acts are we considering criminal? Rape? Murder? Theft? For an act to be considered criminal, it must involve an aggressive act against an innocent party. What criminal act committed in the past would qualify a person to be required to be ugly in the next life? Religion seems obsessed with punishing people for possessing certain character traits, not for the commission of actual harm against other individuals. This alone is grounds for rejection of religion (and is why I rejected it while in college).

    Sin lies in the commission of intentional harm to others. All other sin is invented nonsense.

    One man’s theology is another man’s belly-laugh.

    Trust me on this. I’m as comfortable with my libertarian worldview as any Christian or Muslim is with their religion.

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  281. Tupac,

    People do not need to be saved, especially when they are conciously digging their graves. It all comes down to ape mind hubris (I can get away with it forever).

    Whites are just the latest group of humans to venture in that direction.

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  282. The question about suicide is irrelevant, only an extreme at one end of a scale. A better question would be, What contribution is made to humanity by “ugly” vs. “beautiful” people? Which group scores higher on the misery index, thus (probably) spreading misery as they go along? Which group is happier and values the propagation of happiness?

    Too bad you can’t fit the whole population into both groups.

    I find beautiful people often have only too little to contribute to their communities aside from aesthetic pride, which they guard and maintain jealously. If that is what you value over the greater range of humanness there is no shortage of utopias for you. Enjoy.

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  283. When I see an ugly person, I don’t pity them or feel particularly repulsed because I understand that I am just as mortal as they are.

    We are all born unequal, but we all die as equals.

    – Seneca

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  284. Doug You have no idea how slutty she is privately with me. She’s become completely abandoned with me. Utterly. Beyond hot. And she’s a virgin. There go a lot of theories.

    *chic noir gives doug the evil eye*

    Are you out of your damn mind??? Don’t tell other men about how your woman is behind closed doors. I don’t think she is the type who can be taken away but you don’t want other men to start wondering about her either.

    tupac to aoefe I bet that’s the sound she makes when you plow her folds with your mighty warrior.

    *chic noir blushes and looks away*
    Reads like something str8 out of a harlequin romance novel.

    Aoefe I dreamt I was pregnant and while having an ultra-sound they discovered there were 14 babies!

    I bet one looked like default user.

    Aoefe Too funny. Roissy you even effect my sleep.

    Wow, r got three e-women fighting over him. You, femx and Wendy Schwartz. You better be careful aoefe, Wendy Schwartz is getting ready to make a comeback.

    Okay who gonna show their boobs next. Hey, I like looking at good-looking women too 🙂

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  285. on October 31, 2009 at 6:33 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’We are all born unequal, but we all die as equals.

    – Seneca””””””’

    Good point though at the end some of us have the balls to sing our death song.

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  286. o:

    I believe God made Ugly People to teach the rest of us powerful lessons about the Human Condition-and not necessarily those that we may think.

    if God is all powerful and all good then why are some people condemned with being ugly and all the problems that go with it just so everyone else can learn a valuable lesson?

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  287. Doug1 In contrast to e.g. Obsidian, who’s nothing if not a 5′8″ super peacocking fronter, and god’s gift to women. Just ask him. He’s endlessly told us. And some have bought it.

    *snacthes cup of hatreaid from doug’s grasp*

    You can say what you want about the man but he has helped a few guys get poon and that says something. I’m talking about within a week or two. That’s fast!

    Maurice I am a big cheerleader for both those e-pairings and others to come. I know that kind of thing annoys a lot of commenters, but I take the view that genuine human kindness and affection are sufficiently rare that they should always be encouraged

    *chic thinks of default user and blushes*

    Of course Chic Noir agrees with this. There is just something about e-romances that just make chic noir’s heart contract. I love when I’m on a forum where I see the romance bloom from the very beginning.

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  288. on October 31, 2009 at 7:01 pm D. Ray Morton

    Some of those look PS’d. Like the couple.

    If not, then poor folks. There’s a judgmental asshole with no real problems around every corner.

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  289. Mr. Roissy,

    If ugliness disproves God, then beauty proves Him, and we’re back to square one. Do you have any evidence (as opposed to just the hope) that there’s no God? And, more importantly, do you know the correct criteria for judging the evidence for and against God? For if you apply the wrong criteria to judging the evidence, you’ll draw the wrong conclusion, and given what’s at stake, you’d better be damned sure your conclusion is correct.

    Regarding your post “Visualizing Omega:” God or no God, insulting people over weaknesses they can do nothing about is evil and contemptible. You need to stop behaving like a degenerate and start behaving like a civilized person.

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  290. @chic- yeah, i wondered why doug put that on the board myself. not surprising, and great that our favorite, brilliant virgin poster is opening up a bit in that regard. not surprising at all. but i don’t think we needed to know.

    where is default user these days? and are we ever gonna see an e-catfight between you and aeofe over him if/when he comes back? 🙂

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  291. LOLMaurice. For now my default is safe because aoefe has turned her attention to R and doug.

    Default is just taking a break, he will return shortly.

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  292. on November 1, 2009 at 2:21 am Conservative Cock

    Alan,

    Please understand that Roissy deliberately makes provocative posts and tends to write tongue-in-cheek. This is his style of writing, and he incidentally stimulates much thought and good debates.

    So if you’re going to come here — a place with a bunch of horny betas and fiery, half-brained feminists — to argue about God you’re in the wrong place. That’s like going to a strip club and arguing the merits of the work of St. Augustine.

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  293. Gentlemen,

    I neglected to mention one rather important point: If Christianity is true, then forgiveness of your sins is available through faith in Jesus Christ. That’s why it really is Good News, rather than another bleeping set of rules ya gotta follow.

    Conservative [Rooster],

    When people speak of important things, even crudely and briefly, even in a place like this, they reveal that man has intuition of what matters most. Unless he’s flat-out lying in this post, Roissy shows an intuition, however limited, of truths about God and judgment for sin. And even if he’s lying, others have this intuition stimulated by his words. I’m not looking for a philosophical discussion; I seek to arouse intuitions and provoke thinking about ultimate truth. It doesn’t matter much what people post here; what really matters is what they’ll think on their own.

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  294. Heather
    My God. Your pussy is like that of an 11 year old virgin.

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  295. @ Maurice:
    Milton and Lewis are primary allegorical interpreters of Christian theology. If you’d like to go to the source, Jesus declines Satan’s offer of all the Earth’s kingdoms, rather than disputing Satan’s capacity to make the offer. He also refers to Satan as the ruler of this world, IIRC. An angel sent to Daniel is unable to deliver a message for 40 days while locked in combat with the prince of persia.

    Arguing that the existence of evil falsifies Christianity just demonstrates ignorance of the Christian canon. The eradication of evil would falsify Christianity. And HBD is now accumulating evidence that evil is ingrained in human nature, whereas major atheist schools have posited man’s melioribility.

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  296. “For now my default is safe because aoefe has turned her attention to R and doug.”

    Nah…I have eyes for another. R and D are taken men – I harmless flirt cuz it’s fun. 😉

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  297. on November 1, 2009 at 8:04 pm Conservative Cock

    Alan,

    Please forgive me. I insufflated large amounts of cocaine for 4 consecutive days, so I am not quite sure yet if I have fully recovered my critical thinking skills. I will heed FeministX’s advice to lay off the powder, however. I have some productive things to do — like finding real-life feminists to fuck up the ass.

    That’s Conservative COCK, not Rooster. You seem to show queasiness over human sexuality.

    What Roissy is indirectly talking about is the way society imposes judgment over natural drives. He’s indirectly referring to society’s needless guilt-tripping and moral puritanism in the face of blatant contradictions and hypocrisies.

    Please understand that the audience Roissy directs his writing to, for the most part, consists of sexually-starved beta males.

    What solutions do you have for these sexually-starved beta males? What can Christ do to satiate their irrepressible drives? Do you believe game and religious observance are incompatible?

    Sincerely,

    CC

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  298. Hmmm…does Roissy preside over Black Mass? Some of this stuff sounds awfully familiar…

    From Wikipedia…
    The Nine Satanic Statements outline what “Satan” represents in the Church of Satan.

    Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.

    Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.

    Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.

    Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates.

    Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.

    Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.

    Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development”, has become the most vicious animal of all.

    Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.

    Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years.

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  299. @ATC – sheesh, you sound like Dana Carvey as Church Lady back in the day. “could it be … SATAN ??” lighten up.

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  300. @LGH-

    Arguing that the existence of evil falsifies Christianity just demonstrates ignorance of the Christian canon

    did anyone argue this? roissy said the existence of ugly people made him not believe in God. nothing to do with evil or Satan.

    Church lady joke applies here too. The whole post is tongue in cheek, not an earnest theological statement.

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  301. @maurice- most people don’t joke around when it comes to their religion.

    Science is the God for some who read here and they protect it with the same fervor that the very religious do their God.

    Chic Noir has no judgments either way, she’s just noting.

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  302. @chic- sure, but this forum is not really the place for that. even though it does, interestingly, pop up from time to time. caveat reader. i don’t judge either, i respect those beliefs even as i (mostly) disagree, but there’s a time and a place for all kinds of discussions. sorry for any offense, none intended.

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  303. maurice sure, but this forum is not really the place for that
    agreed but on posts like this, I think it’s only natural that people will bring in God of course which gets the GodvsScience people rolling.

    The posts dedicated to game seem to have fewer hijackings and fewer women posting*

    *sad to say 😦

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  304. Where is Ruby anyway?

    She could sum up this post perfectly using words and terms that would make chic noir run to goggle.

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  305. *sum up the comment section of this post

    sorry

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  306. @maurice
    Lighten up yourself, you dead Bee Gee. Do you really think “Hmmm…does Roissy preside over Black Mass?” is anything but a lighthearted comment?

    The similarities are there; I offered no value judgments.

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  307. ATC,

    Satanism seems kinda tame wtf is that?

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  308. @ATC – point taken. guess my sense of humor had left me for a moment when I posted that. apologies.

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  309. on November 2, 2009 at 2:04 am unlearning genius

    Ugly people do not shock as much when you deal with them on a daily basis or when you humanize them. Social failure has sometimes propelled many to heights, how many socially popular good-looking jocks/cheerleaders do you know that are bagging groceries or manning walmart shelves? However it is also more likely that ugly people are bitter and beneath a surface of extreme sweetness are harboring generalized malice.

    That said, I would rather deal with ugly people through email or blogs, that way I can access their intelligence and observations. The beauty of the modern wired world is you can have your cake and eat it too!

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  310. did anyone argue this? roissy said the existence of ugly people made him not believe in God. nothing to do with evil or Satan.

    @ maurice
    The reason we’re overanalyzing is because you keep asking questions. Roissy’s post contains three Biblical allusions. His logic requires an omnimax god which isn’t Biblical. Hence the non-sequitur.

    It’s within the bounds of humorous license. I merely wished to note a little-understood point about a subject I enjoy.

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  311. God is a retarded delusion.

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  312. People who talk about themselves in the third person tend to have a repulsively inflated sense of their self-worth.

    Just saying.

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  313. Michelin called, they wan’t their baby back.

    That is all.

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  314. these *have* to be photoshopped…

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  315. In Response to Chic Noir :

    I’ve been in DC for the past week or so taking care of family business.

    Let me just declare that DC’s suburbs [Dulles, Centreville, Herndon, Sterling, etc.] are the possibly the most SWPL-infested in the world. I’ve left these common-sense-forsaken places with a seething hatred for suburbanites and hipsters…

    Combine this with the disgust of the “People of Wal-Mart” website that you bastards have made me addicted to and I have come to the conclusion that I’ll either move to a rural community or fully expatriate as soon as possible from this dying nation.

    Anyway, I’m back now — If in a diminished capacity due to the upcoming holidays.

    Thank you for the concern.

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  316. nice post, worth reading

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  317. The last picture was just gratuitous.

    Shame on you.

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