I Hate Bachelorette Parties

Like a swarm of locusts or a flock of shitting geese, the bachelorette party is the most loathsome sight in the club. When I see them stumble into my favorite bar holding hands like a train of circus elephants I don’t think “Oh, here comes fun!”, I think “If they ask for my underwear I’m really going to give it to them, skid mark and all.” All I want to do when I see the girl wearing the white veil is shoot a load of my hot spunk in her hair until she’s crying that I’ve ruined her $300 wedding coif.

My friends secretly hate me for getting married first.

My friends secretly hate me for getting married first.

Bachelorette parties come in two varieties: The bride-to-be is really ugly or she’s the hottest chick of the bunch. There never seems to be an in-between. You can tell which one you’re dealing with without even looking for the one in the veil. The friends of the ugly bachelorette will have a look of genuine happiness and relief on their faces for the good fortune that the least marketable of them managed to snare a guy. (My buddies and I are left to imagine just how beta the unlucky bastard must be.) They have inflated egos because joy has filled their hearts with the thought that their own chances must be very good if their incendiary warpig friend beat the odds.

The friends of the hot alpha bachelorette smile just like the friends of the ugly bachelorette do, but their smiles are masks covering their seething envy and resentment. Their yearning to be seen as desirable means that you can make some headway with one who is a little less attractive than the bride-to-be.

In my experience, bachelorette parties are dead-ends for pickup. (Bachelor parties, on the other hand…) The girls are too drunk, too insular, too bitchy, and wracked with too much Freudian drama to bother with. And have you ever been mass cockblocked? Try hitting on a girl in a bachelorette party and watch in wonder as five girls swoop in to make your life miserable.

In a righteous and virtuous world, bachelorette parties would be shunned, and those girls who participated in them would be shamed by other women. There is no good reason for a girl who is about to vow sexual fidelity to the man she loves for the rest of her life to suck from a veiny penis-shaped straw and dare horny drunk men to bite candies from the necklace nestled in her cleavage. (The bachelor party is perfectly acceptable because men sacrifice a lot more when they get married.) This insipid, low class cultural trend should be used as a litmus test for men who still have a shred of dignity – if he finds out she cavorted around town sloppy drunk and wildly flirting with every guy within shouting distance he should call off the wedding immediately. No self-respecting man marries a closet slut.

Here are a couple of stories to give you an idea of what I mean.

Story one.

A bachelorette ran up to Zeets and implored him to bite off one of the life savers glued to her white t-shirt. He obliged and, naturally, targeted the life saver perched over her left nipple. Like a hungry bear mauling prey, he ripped off the life saver and took a swatch of her t-shirt with him. She shrieked, her left boob exposed for hundreds to see, while Zeets had a piece of cloth dangling from his mouth like a hunk of meat, and a shit-eating grin on his face. What a touching photo to add to the wedding album!

Story two.

This past weekend a hot blonde from Texas in a slinky black cocktail dress came up to me and started dirty dancing, rubbing her crotch on my thigh and turning around to grind her ass into me. We flirted and laughed for 20 minutes while my hand was on her back, hips, and ass, feeling around her thong strap. She pressed her tits into my chest. I leaned in and she was about to kiss me when her drunk friend wedged herself between us.

“She’s about to get married! Look!” She held up Texas girl’s left hand.

I squinted in the dim light and saw a barely noticeable silver ring on her finger, turned around so that the very large diamond was inside her palm, out of sight. I asked her why she had her ring like that. She looked ashamed. “Oh, it gets caught on my dress.”

Word to the wise: $20K on an engagement ring won’t banish the inner whore from your dearly beloved. Save your money.

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Recap for girls who love love love romping through town in a bachelorette party and think it makes them famous for the night:

There is nothing cute or charming about you.
You and your bridesmaids are annoying, which is the opposite of fun.
Your bachelorette party games are retarded.
You take up space better used by girls who actually want to hook up.
Your fiancee is a sucker.
You don’t have that bride-to-be “glow”. It’s just drunkenness.
You’re still fat in a tiara.

If most “men” (and I use the term loosely) weren’t such tools they’d stop giving these dorky bachelorette party girls the acknowledgement they crave. Ignoring them is the only way to end the plague.





Comments


  1. on August 11, 2008 at 5:22 pm Patrick Bateman

    “She’s about to get married! Look!” She held up Texas girl’s left hand.

    I hope that filthy whore’s fiance left her at the altar.

    if he finds out she cavorted around town sloppy drunk and wildly flirting with every guy within shouting distance he should call off the wedding immediately.

    I might leave my fiancee if she even suggested throwing a fucking bachelorette party.

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  2. Agreed a hundred percent on this post as I have often said to friends that one of these bachlorette parties is reason to call off the wedding. And they are definitely deadends in terms of pickup. The phallic worship thing is particularly vile and is intense enough to surpass the quantity of fertility symbols I saw at Pompeii.

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  3. Amen! Just recently visited Dallas and a bachelorette party was going on at the Loon. School teachers…Bride was hot, but they were so insular except for the fattest organizer of the bunch. She dragged me over to the table from the bar to meet the bride. A lovely leggy blonde in a sundress… I obviously made a faux pas in encouraging them by buying the bride some nonsensical female shot as per the bison’s request. As the drunk buffalo said she thought I would be a good fuck, better than her husband, the bachelorette began crying about a recent fight with her soon to be groom. She then collapsed and started the slow gurge vomit. As it oozed on the table and very near my shoes, I excused myself from the fuck crazy dirty talking grand poobah, and exited gracefully, while the annoyed waitress said to the assembled harpies, she was going to call the cops.

    Mmmmm fun! But hey after all, it was Texas.

    Dr. F aka Man Whore

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  4. In DC, most of these bachelorette parties are comprised of cum-burpin’ gutter sluts from outer-lying trailer parks whooping it up in the big city for the night. Adams Morgan is lousy with them on weekends, the vast majority being of the moo moo variety. Aren’t womenfolk supposed to have bridal showers where they just sit around and giggle for a few hours at home? Bacherlorette parties did NOT exist 20 years ago. This is a shitty new trend, indeed.

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  5. on August 11, 2008 at 5:34 pm SeaFighter HSV

    Remember that post VK did when someone died? He was talking some crap about his African ancestors having a village feast? That was the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

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  6. My friends and I give bridal showers, not bachelorette parties. But I did once go to a bachelor-girl party a little like the ones you describe. Guess what? It was at the instigation of her slightly trashy family; the bride-to-be sat there looking miserably embarrassed all night, beside a giant inflatable “phallus”. There were no candy-biting challenges.

    I think those kinds of parties are ridiculous. On the other hand, if it’s just some women out dressed up and drinking together, without the other nonsense, I don’t see any harm in it.

    Clio

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  7. Well said Rossy, well said.

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  8. there’s no point in depending on women to end bachelorette parties. even those women who want nothing to do with them have no incentive to weigh-in.

    personally, i’m glad they exist. where can you find a better lesson in cock-teasing and cock-blocking? the day i finally figured out that bachelorette parties were a waste of time was the day i took one step further away from being a schmuck-on-wheels.

    i take two approaches when i find myself in close proximity to one: either i ignore them or i hold out my compliance with one of their little tasks as bait to see just how ridiculous they will become.

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  9. i learned long ago it’s a waste of time…minus the time by best friend hooked up with the bride to be AND her mom…..the raging whoredom or complete ice frostiness of the entourage both COMPLETELY turn me off and I groan every time I see a group in Raleigh….pure irritation.

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  10. Perhaps we’re on the same wavelength today because I made precisely this point earlier at Roosh’s. Bachelorette parties are an abomination of modern western culture. In NY its usually the bridge and tunnel proles but I’ve run into a few Manhattanite bachelorette parties, all of which I avoid like the plague. I’ve got nothing against women getting together to celebrate an approaching wedding perhaps with dinner, a few drinks, or even something creative like a treasure hunt. As long the ladies stay clear of clubs and bars and the bride to be is inconspicous, i.e, without cheesy tiara, vail, or silly banner.

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  11. on August 11, 2008 at 6:34 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    One thing no one has said is that these parties are yet another way US women are trying to behave like they’re men.

    That’s the real problem. The constant “ambition” of US women to do everything men do, from getting tatoos, to being “jocks” to this. Men like women, not pretend-men.

    In much the same way women are iput off by non-aggressive men (ie nerds), we’re put off by this. The difference is that the “you go-gil!” media and culture now tells men we’re supposed to act like mindless cheerleaders for these types of women.

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  12. #5 SeaFighter HSV

    I was googling something and ended up on the VK post that you are alluding to a couple of days ago.

    I am not much for sap and that is precisely the reason I thought that was some good quality blogging – he dealt with a serious and potentially sappy issue straight up, and without an sap. Most people would agree with me on that- at least most people without an agenda like you seem to have.

    Anyway, go eat some horse cock. You know you want it.

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  13. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!

    SeaFighter HSV,

    You’re comment hate is weak sauce… you’re definitely not from the old school where we used to go harder than that. But speaking of agenda….

    Remember when Seafighter HSV got blocked from VK’s blog for leaving comments that weren’t even funny, then he e mailed VK apologizing if his comments came off as being “combative”. He then offered to buy VK a drink next time he was in DC.

    VK sensing this was on obvious homo pick up line responded in kind, “Thanks but no thanks” Then SeahFighter that he could, “go suck your mother’s cock”.

    Man, never anger a gay seaman. Jesus Christ

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  14. The worst part of it is that they crowd the bar. It made getting a steady stream of COOH difficult and annoying. I finally learned that when a bachelorett party shows up, I leave. Momma didn’t raise no fool.

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  15. “In a righteous and virtuous world, bachelorette parties would be shunned, and those girls who participated in them would be shamed by other women.”

    I think that more women than you think do actively shun hen nights and their stars than not: the ritual is absolutely moronic and smacks of the kind of high maintenance attention American women have come to expect over the years. It’s right up there with Girls Gone Wild: let’s not forget some of these “ladies” actually thought it would be a good idea to fuck Screech.

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  16. well said Roissy, well said.

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  17. on August 11, 2008 at 7:04 pm Usually Lurking

    One thing no one has said is that these parties are yet another way US women are trying to behave like they’re men.

    You’re right. Yet another obvious example.

    But why?

    Did they just forget how to act like ladies? Did they not like it? Is it more fun being a “guy”? Or is it simply one more thing to build up Political Correctness? Like, if a mother encourages her daughter to act like a lady then she is simply propping up the hetero-normative patriarchal sexist society.

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  18. A roissy first, I completely agree.

    Was with my daughter on a weekend trip and we headed out to hear some music and had the misfortune of being seated next to a bachelorette party. At first I thought the penis straws were cute, but then they were getting progressively more sloppy drunk and made spectacles out of themselves. I’d much rather attend a private party where we could hear some Avenue D and Larry Tee.

    http://video.aol.com/video-detail/larry-tee-and-princess-superstar-licky-herve-goes-low-remix-check-out-the-video-/2287653692

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  19. I hate them too, even though I have unfortunately participated in a few.

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  20. They are an epidemic at the gay bars I frequent on weekends, even my queeniest friends turn away in disgust at the self-indulgence on display. It is a running joke at one three-story club here that every Saturday and Sunday a drunken bachelorette falls down the stairs — whoops, there she goes! They’re all virtually indistinguishable. And the horny ones — care to guess whether the husband-to-be ever gets to see that side of her?

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  21. Bacherlorette parties did NOT exist 20 years ago. This is a shitty new trend, indeed.

    I’m not old enough to know from personal experience, but I checked the NYT, and this is true.

    Search the NYT for “bachelorette party” and the earliest results you get are two entries from 1981, and both are about some Governor getting married — the phrase is used ironically, clearly not as a “wild gals’ night out.”

    There’s a steady stream of results starting in 1990, and they all use the term in the sense of slutting it up before the wedding.

    When you do the math, you learn that who started this trend? Generation X. Yeah man, we’re like so ironic and turning the tables on society’s constructed gender roles, or whatever. Buncha dumb shits.

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  22. BTW, another reason to hang out at younger bars or clubs.

    I’ve been blessed never to have seen one of these things, and I go dancing every Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night — but to clubs where the age range is 15 to 23, and mostly 17 to 21.

    Kittens only, thanks. No cougars.

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  23. on August 11, 2008 at 8:53 pm Patrick Bateman

    Agnostic
    but to clubs where the age range is 15 to 23, and mostly 17 to 21.

    Do you think your relatively strong preference for these younger girls could be due to your size?

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  24. I hate Bachelorette Parties so much that it sometimes scares even me. I have been preaching anti-Bachelorette Party rhetoric for ages.

    “You take up space better used by girls who actually want to hook up.”

    Sums it up right there.

    On a positive note, there are two good things about Bachelorette Parties:

    1. If you cannot otherwise tell you are in the WRONG Bar/ Nightclub out at night (shitty dj, lame people, crap service didnt give it away?) and you see a Bachelorette Party, you now know beyond a shadow of a doubt you are in the WRONG Bar/ Nightclub.

    2. Most guys get attracted to Bachelorette Parties like a moth to flame. Which, obviously makes it easier for you to swoop any decent girls in the Bar/ Nightclub.

    – MPM

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  25. Do you think your relatively strong preference for these younger girls could be due to your size?

    Holy stiletto, Bateman! Why don’t you just cut the guy’s heart out and make him eat it? Or blowtorch his pits? Or something merciful like that?

    Remind me never to get on the bad side of a guy whose name Dexter uses as an alias.

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  26. on August 11, 2008 at 9:07 pm A Texas Groom

    That fucking whore!! And I was the one that bought the cocktail dress, too!

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  27. There is no good reason for a girl who is about to vow sexual fidelity to the man she loves for the rest of her life to suck from a veiny penis-shaped straw

    That could be your opportunity to offer her a very special straw.

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  28. @4 Hardcore: this is exactly why I tend to avoid Adams Morgan on weekends.

    @11 Broken Arrow: it is totally a girls acting like guys thing, sadly. And what the fuck is it with chicks who love football? I don’t want a girlfriend who watches football with me! And they think this is a positive…

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  29. Doubtful: I got an email from a reader who is (I think) 25 years old, 6’1 or 6’2 and muscular, who said how insightful I was about the diffs between under-22 girls and mid-20s and up women, and that after trying it out for himself, agrees.

    I don’t mind comments about my height, since the only thing it’s relevant for is attracting attention *, and girls stare at me already, including girls who are taller than me. I’ve been pulled in by my tie on the dancefloor by a girl who was 6’2.

    * In the past, it was also relevant to fighting, but guys don’t get into frequent fights anymore.

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  30. Bachelorette parties are like the motorbike parade on Memorial Day in DC — they are a bit silly, but the goers usually get a kick out of them. Pupu thinks they are harmless.

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  31. What a timely article. Thursday night I was out and after my first date got shit house drunk/incapable of holding a conversation she went home. I went to the next bar to find a small bachlorette party in a relatively empty bar. I was hanging out, and one of them came up and gave me a nice ass slap. I took it from there, saw the penis straws, and 20 minutes later one of them was “triple dog dared” to make out with me… right. I did, took her to the other side of the bar and was practically fingeringher while she stradled me, while sitting at the bar.

    Everyone I had arrived with left, and it was getting late, so I went for the fuck close… no deal… “My friends won’t let me leave with you”. Fucking cockblocks… I settled for the number close, but never caught up with her again, since she was leaving town 36 hours later. Wise Roissy, I vow never to fall for the pink penis straws again.

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  32. on August 11, 2008 at 10:21 pm SovereignAmericanMale

    two words: “air horn”

    One Saturday night, in Austin Texas, at a 6th street club called the “Roxy” (now a movie theater) where I just finished up a set for the evening. I went all in against a bridezilla and her goonsquad.

    After I realized words were ineffective at shooing them away from the bar, and my much needed drink…

    As I had come to the club straight after a day in the Sun on Lake LBJ, I was in luck.

    I went to my yachting dufflesack and removed 2 portable air horns.

    I handed one to my wingman and we cleared a landing path for the dry men and women.

    Later, we let rip anytime one of them batchlorettes opened their silly mouths to say anything.

    Right near their drunk ears… something about a 115 db blast of air causes even the drunkest cow to move her fat or cute ass out of the way.

    Nothing like 10 guys with horns to run them right out of a club, when they get out of line, and disrespectful.

    For a few months, I had a trend going on 6th street.

    After this, the batchlorette girls found a few clubs setting up specific nights just for them. (imho a good thing) Never again on a Friday/Saturday night either.

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  33. You guys sound like you’re just put out that there are women out there with the gall to have some harmless — if dopey — fun that doesn’t revolve around you. Wah, wah, wah.

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  34. 1) Women only want alpha males as beta males are specimens.

    2) There never was and there will never be any incentive to get married.

    BTW, current de facto girlfriend substitute attended a bachelorette party a few weeks ago, and she had nothing but complaints about the experience. The strippers were ugly, the food wasn’t good, and the older women were absurdly trashy and crazy while the younger women were a bit more reserved.

    Personally, as long as there’s no cheating, I don’t care about what goes on at either sex’s party.

    Men like women, not pretend-men.

    Pretend men fuck better and don’t require $$$ to take care of their every need.

    Is it more fun being a “guy”?

    Poor with kids and a boring husband? Rich without kids having great sex with an alpha?

    Hmm, which option would you take?

    Fucking cockblocks… I settled for the number close, but never caught up with her again, since she was leaving town 36 hours later.

    I thought weddings where the places to find desperate girls angry over their best friend’s marriage?

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  35. Ah yes, I remember the look of horror in that young bride to bes face, as her shirt got caught in my ravenous maw! I am evil Homer, I am Evil Homer, Cha CHa, CHa, CHa!

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  36. …….Funniest blog out there since Udolpho hung it up.

    Roissy should really consider writing a novel based on his own character, working in all he as experienced over the past three or four years—-as anonymously as possible. He should get paid for such lively content. I think a publisher would be impressed.

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  37. on August 11, 2008 at 11:48 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    Agnostic… “but to clubs where the age range is 15 to 23, and mostly 17 to 21.”

    “Do you think your relatively strong preference for these younger girls could be due to your size?”

    Q: Why do short guys date younger girls?

    A: Because they can.

    Sorry, the tall guys grow to look like the daddy of twentysomethings real quick, and the short guys can still pass for younger because of boyishness. This doesn’t work for all younger women, of course, but when it does, it becomes the one area where being short pays off.

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  38. on August 12, 2008 at 12:06 am InterestedParty

    Bachelorette parties are hit or miss. All depends on the the talent involved, though generally, looks-wise, it breaks down pretty much as roissy describes it.

    I’m a bit more bullish on them than roissy, but most of my experiences have been Vegas-based, which I’m guessing are much better than DC-based bachelorette parties (on average).

    Female-wise, other than probably higher average intelligence/refinement, everything about DC sounds worse than LA/Vegas. Sorry DC ladies; I’m just going by second-hand evidence here. 🙂

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  39. on August 12, 2008 at 1:45 am Milton Freedman

    Roissy you and your boy Roosh better watch out, the police are onto your pump and dump methods http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7552009.stm

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  40. Well, it all depends. I only directly experienced one Bachelorette party at a strip bar. They sent the girl over to kiss my bald head. Not bad. The girls at the party were a lot better behaved than the usual girls who come in the bar on Friday night for the male revue, (noisy and disgusting and doing things to the male dancers which would get any male customer ejected promptly if he did same to the female dancers.) and then pollute the main dance area with their presence after the male revue is over.

    I don’t know why Roissy would be no negative on these girls. After all, they are out to enjoy themselves, not pick up guys. Let’s hear it for diversity. Just because they are not in the mood to be picked up doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be out drinking. Roissy sounds pretty much 19th century in his attitude towards the gentle sex. Keep in mind that in a few decades these ladies, and you gentle reader, may be old/sick/disabled/depressed/alone/etc or just plain dead. So let them blow off some steam while they have it. Enjoy their craziness.

    One of the strippers told me what she and her friends like to do to celebrate birthdays and all. Four or five will go bar hopping. The game is to drink all night without buying a drink or going home with anybody. They enjoy acting cute and noisy, and just showing off their beauty, with the aim to entice men to send drinks over to them, who they acknowledge with waves and smiles. The last thing they want is for guys to hit on them. Their favorite marks are older men who won’t approach them because of the age difference but who send over rounds of drinks. They can party and drink all night, have great fun showing themselves off, and nobody is sorry the next morning. And, it didn’t cost them a cent.

    You just have to love them.

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  41. on August 12, 2008 at 2:35 am Nastasya Filippovna

    That’s the real problem. The constant “ambition” of US women to do everything men do, from getting tatoos, to being “jocks” to this.

    Yeah really… the next thing you know they’ll be running around acting all rational and making decisions based on logic.

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  42. I don’t think there is any danger of that happening.

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  43. on August 12, 2008 at 4:23 am Nastasya Filippovna

    The Roissy Song:

    I fuck on the first date, cause that shit just ain’t worth the wait
    I fuck on the first date, you keep dreaming – I be wide awake.

    http://www.davidlehre.com/miamiice/movies/pittsburghslim.html

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  44. on August 12, 2008 at 4:27 am Nastasya Filippovna

    Notice he has better arcade skillz…

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  45. on August 12, 2008 at 11:57 am Patrick Bateman

    @Patrick H
    Holy stiletto, Bateman! Why don’t you just cut the guy’s heart out and make him eat it? Or blowtorch his pits? Or something merciful like that?

    I don’t have a problem with agnostic. He’s open about his relatively small frame, otherwise I wouldn’t have brought it up.

    Remind me never to get on the bad side of a guy whose name Dexter uses as an alias.

    Dexter is a fucking hero. I relate to him on many levels.

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  46. 45: So you were making a serious point. DoBA in 27 did the same. I thought you were slipping a stiletto into agnostic’s ribs, while smiling politely.

    I apologize to you for misinterpreting your comment, but also to agnostic for making the comment into an insult by putting my own cynical spin on it. Sorry, agnostic.

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  47. Heh, Damn just when you thought it was safe to Yacht on LBJ…

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  48. #40 Joel

    Joel, are you for real….I mean you and guys like you are the reason why these women – and Sara I mean “these” women, not all women – have an attitude like this. Good god, the fucking gall to say that their aim is to get through a night of drinking without having to buy a drink…

    I have read only a smattering of roosh, VK and roissys blogs over the last couple of days – so I don’t have much of an idea but my impression is that the general message they are trying to get out is that if some one wants to get with these women – and once again Sara, I mean “these” women, not all women – they need to change this widespread pussy like attitude for which I think we have people like you to blame Joel.

    seriously, I don’t get it – all you wanted was to be kissed on your bald head?.I don’t get it ….if there was only one part of my body that a woman would kiss it wouldn’t be my head -well, not the one you think…….I really, really don’t get it. I just don’t. I guess to each his own…

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  49. I’ve always loathed bachelorette parties. I’ve never understood why women have to adorn themselves with various penis apparel. Maybe it’s because of their massive penis-envy. I mean, you don’t see men running around with vagina hats or a big ass inflatable set of tits when they throw down for their bachelor parties do you?

    Further proof that women are fucking retarded…

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  50. @ 40 joel

    WHAT THE FUCK DUDE?!?!?!

    At what point did you misplace your balls? You’ve GOT to be trolling…

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  51. on August 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm Ferox Obscurus

    One more reason not to frequent the vast majority of bars.

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  52. on August 12, 2008 at 3:31 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    The Joel post has to be a satire of guys like Steve from the Jerry Springer Show. I hope it’s satire.

    Who “buys women drinks” anymore? 50-year-olds in pale blue leisure suits? Yeah, I’ll buy you a drink honey, ask your sign, and we’ll disco to Donna Summer…

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  53. Ugh. So glad my bachelorette party was basically an excuse for my friends and I to go bowling and play Rock Band until 4.00 a.m.

    Yes, I am that much of a geek.

    Thanks.

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  54. on August 12, 2008 at 4:45 pm Sara saw Fight Club and got laid last night.S Got

    Roissy, how are you going to deal with two Sara’s? 53 will have to change her name! I was here first.

    I just wanted you guys to be the first to know that ‘Sara saw Fight Club and got laid last night’, saw Fight Club and got laid last night. Three words on both accounts; Oh…..MY……..GOD.

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  55. I agree with you about the bachelorette parties. There’s no excuse for a woman to go act inappropriately with other men when she’s in a monogamous relationship. How, though, can you say that bachelor parties are just fine? Because men “give up more” for marriage? What? That’s bullshit. And even if it were true, the man has still willingly entered a monogamous relationship, and should absolutely be held to the same standard of loyalty as the woman is.

    Bachelor parties are just as disgusting and disrespectful to the future spouse as the typical bachelorette party.

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  56. Your post reeks of irony.

    Quite funny that as I am getting married I am going to give up my job, my family, my friends, my freedom and even my country just so I could cook and clean and bear children for the man I love.

    And he’ll still look after every pretty woman no matter how I am and what I do and get jealous even if I just talk to a man other than him.

    Yet I don’t hate him or men in general. Already got used to all the disappointments.

    So can I has bachelorette partay? No.

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  57. on August 12, 2008 at 5:12 pm Sara saw Fight Club and got laid last night

    55 Desiree

    How, though, can you say that bachelor parties are just fine? Because men “give up more” for marriage? What? That’s bullshit.

    You speak much truth Desiree, and I like your choice of words.

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  58. haha… you shut your bitch-ass hole and you LIKE it!!!

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  59. and oh yeah… if you buy some random slut a drink, you have got to be one of the biggest tools on the planet. the object is for THEM to buy YOU a drink.

    lol…

    Yeah, niggas be brown-nosing these ‘hos, and shit. Takin’ bitches out to eat and spending money on these ‘hos, you know what I’m sayin’. I treat a bitch like Seven Up: I never have and I never will. I tell a bitch like this: Bitch, you without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes… you’ll never go platinum.

    — Snoop

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  60. on August 12, 2008 at 5:37 pm Patrick Bateman

    Because men “give up more” for marriage? What? That’s bullshit.

    Men have more to gain from promiscuity than woman do, so yes, men give up more when they get married. Men continue to appreciate until about 40 while women start depreciating in their early to mid 20s.

    …the man has still willingly entered a monogamous relationship, and should absolutely be held to the same standard of loyalty as the woman is.

    Double standards are more biological than cultural. Women who are sluts are low quality and not desirable for marriage. Men who bed many women are high quality and desired by many women. Think of it this way. A slut is more likely to get impregnated by another man and cause her husband to waste his efforts raising another man’s seed. A Casanova is likely to give a woman children who will be very good at propagating her genes.

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  61. on August 12, 2008 at 5:37 pm Usually Lurking

    Quite funny that as I am getting married I am going to give up my job, my family, my friends, my freedom and even my country just so I could cook and clean and bear children

    Why be a victim? If you want to work, work. If you don’t want a baby, then don’t. And if you do want these things, then he is not MAKING you do shit.

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  62. […] really, I’m in perfect turmoil about actually giving more air time to this guy named Roissy http://roissy.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/i-hate-bachelorette-parties/. However, I happened to read his blog and had several thoughts of my […]

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  63. Bateman, have you ever had viagra without any reason?

    Women’s sex drive skyrockets at about 30, the “deprecating in early-mid 20s” is because the wish to explore and experience disappears. Sex itself is not half as important or enjoyable as it will be a decade later.

    However women’s sex drive is directly tied to how men treat them in bed. If you are not good or interesting enough, women’s sex drive fluctuates. Also if she is left dry for a while the sex drive also disappears and most men seldom take actual initiative to get her back on track. So in short, the reason why women might not want to have sex with you is because you have not been good enough to her. Following that thought it becomes clear that marrying can completely destroy a woman’s ability to enjoy sex so… still think men lose more?

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  64. Why be a victim? If you want to work, work. If you don’t want a baby, then don’t. And if you do want these things, then he is not MAKING you do shit.

    The thing is that those are the things women are traditionally supposed to do in a marriage. I wrote that as a reply to someone here saying that men lose more as they get married than women which is a rather painful generalisation.

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  65. on August 12, 2008 at 5:59 pm Gunslingergregi

    Roissy you and your boy Roosh better watch out, the police are onto your pump and dump methods

    What about naked shorting noone gives a f about that the bastards. I lost 25k on a penny stock they are pretty much worthless unless you do 1k trades only. I have still lost less money than it costs for a masters degree so no big deal.

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  66. Also, thanks for not saying anything about the rest of my comment.

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  67. on August 12, 2008 at 6:00 pm Sara saw Fight Club and got laid last night

    63 kimbulimbu

    So in short, the reason why women might not want to have sex with you is because you have not been good enough to her.

    This is so true in my case, but many here seem to prefer girls who prefer assholes. There’s zero commitment, quick results, more drama and ego gratification. I love men who are equally picky about who THEY have sex with. Let me tell you, it’s worth the wait. IMHO

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  68. on August 12, 2008 at 6:02 pm Patrick Bateman

    @kimbulimbu
    Bateman, have you ever had viagra without any reason?

    I tried something similar. I really don’t like the side effects so I just stick to my natural wood now.

    My primary reason for believing that women depreciate above ~25 years is looks, not sex. I know older women have a stronger sex drive. Most of a woman’s desirable qualities peak around 25 and stay pretty constant after that, the main exception is her looks.

    Trust me, the men on this blog don’t have to be told how to turn a woman on and keep her interested.

    … still think men lose more?

    I’m quite positive.

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  69. Bateman.

    So american of you.

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  70. on August 12, 2008 at 6:15 pm Sara saw Fight Club and got laid last night

    68 Patrick B.

    Sorry, will try to avoid over posting today…

    Since 2/3 of divorces are initiated by women your certainty that men give up more in marriage is illogical and makes sense at the same time. Bear with me. You can say whatever you want about women’s “flimsy” reasons for wanting a divorce, but bottom line is if they felt they had gained so much in marriage they would not be initiating 2/3 of divorces. I agree that there is a lot of societal pressure for women (and everyone) to focus on the negative in their relationships with men and it’s so not helpful. If you look at commercials and how men are portrayed, it’s pathetic. TV shows depict men as subhuman jerks. I’m completely against all that, but regardless women perceive that they are giving up more and that is their reality until they change it.

    They are encouraged to “give up everything” even themselves for their children and marriages and at the same time getting messages from feminists that they don’t need a man at all and instead need a high paying career. It’s extremely confusing and stressful. Eventually they often just break down and blame the man for everything.

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  71. on August 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm Patrick Bateman

    @69 kimbulimbu

    My parents came to this country for a reason. Your observation is correct, I am very American, but I am also very good at dealing with non-Anglo culture, probably due the years I spent living in New York.

    #sara

    You’re missing something in your argument. The women have already extracted most of the value their men have to give them by the time they initiate divorce. Upon initiation of divorce, the (very rational at this point) woman calculates the value she will gain from the divorce is greater than she would gain by remaining married to this man any longer.

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  72. Women who are sluts are low quality and not desirable for marriage.

    OTOH, there’s a 50% chance of improved and higher quality sex.

    Upon initiation of divorce, the (very rational at this point) woman calculates the value she will gain from the divorce is greater than she would gain by remaining married to this man any longer.

    Then maybe we should abolish marriage?

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  73. on August 12, 2008 at 6:42 pm Gunslingergregi

    Divorce is a woman’s retirement plan coming to fruitition in the states.

    Sara saw fight club and got laid
    And now you may see the light. Fight club will be the worlds bible 2000 years from now.

    Oh My God.

    Yea you have to watch it more than once too. It can change your life.

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  74. I am also very good at dealing with non-Anglo culture, probably due the years I spent living in New York.

    I never realised New York was not America. I also never realised that all americans are of Anglo-Saxon descent.

    What I rather meant was that we are playing with stereotypes here. You are saying that women lose their attractiveness after the age of 25 (which we on this side of the ocean tend to attribute to your women (if they ever were attractive at all)) and your manner of thinking is very reminiscient of a younger, unmarried Al Bundy. I am not saying all women are not moneywhores or just bitches, most of them are but there is always a certain percentage of good ones in any society. Besides, any human’s mind is adaptable and not only to what happens below the belt.

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  75. on August 12, 2008 at 8:08 pm Patrick Bateman

    @74 kimbulimbu

    Did you notice when I wrote Anglo race in my post? No. Me neither. I wrote and meant Anglo culture. Individuals of any race or ethnic background may be culturally Anglo. Culturally, Americans of French descent resemble the English more than the French.

    I wrote about New York because it is full of people from all over the world and is often the entry point for immigrants like my parents. Even though I grew up in the states, the particular city I grew up in, New York, gave me the opportunity to interact with many different cultures.

    I am fully aware that I am generalizing. I’ve known women who didn’t hit their peak attractiveness until 30, and I agree that European women are usually more attractive. I do not mean to imply that women become trolls at 26, but rather that the average woman, American or European, starts losing value around 25 because her looks are decaying. That decay usually begins much earlier than 25, but other factors are still improving in that time.

    @DA
    OTOH, there’s a 50% chance of improved and higher quality sex.

    Agreed, but when you fuck other women, sex is low on the priority list for attributes you look for in a wife.

    Then maybe we should abolish marriage?

    We just need better marriage laws. We’d be better off if the state didn’t define marriage at all. The state could merely adjudicate contract disputes.

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  76. on August 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm Turkeybaster115

    I wonder if the my-saw-jenny on this website, will ever cease. I hope more and more american girls absorb raunch culture, so that some of the beta’s, and so-called “alpha’s” on this site get laid. We really need to start seeing more positive posts about american male-female relations, or please give us the gay-blog link. end of rant

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  77. on August 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm Sara saw Fight Club and got laid last night

    73 Gunslinger (on Fight Club)

    Yea you have to watch it more than once too. It can change your life.

    I like the way it’s changed my life already. *smile* I’m up-or down as my paramour says-for watching it again. He was laid up with an injury and saw it numerous times over a three week period. Last night he noticed something he hadn’t before.

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  78. Bateman.

    if you’d compromise, talk to her, hell, even give hints to go to a gym if needed, you could achieve a lot more with her than you could’ve thought. Most women can adapt to maintenance if they are given some support. It’s more often that men stop giving the support thinking the “decay” and thus shitty selfesteem and all else to come are natural. These things, they are just looks, they can be solved. How hard can it be to understand?

    But I guess you are more about conquering, not long term relationships.

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  79. thank you for writing this. I keep noticing thos trend every time i go out in ny. Like you said, they just take up space standing aaround looking for some kind of mysterious gratification. Likewise they tend to be either very attractive or butt ugly. I dont even know why the ugly crew bothers. This trend needs to stop asa fuckin p. Gentlemen….please pay no attention to these ccloset cluster sluts….it’s getting rediculous.

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  80. on August 12, 2008 at 9:26 pm Gunslingergregi

    Turkey
    Fags will soon have the same problems if the marriage laws begin to be applied to them. There will be no escape for the men of America gay or straight.

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  81. My fucked up optimism has now reduced me to tears. Wonderful.

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  82. I think we were thinking the same things sunday night

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  83. “Since 2/3 of divorces are initiated by women your certainty that men give up more in marriage is illogical and makes sense at the same time. Bear with me. You can say whatever you want about women’s “flimsy” reasons for wanting a divorce, but bottom line is if they felt they had gained so much in marriage they would not be initiating 2/3 of divorces.”

    No-fault divorce, communal property and state-mandated alimony and child support have made getting our of marriage. They have everything to gain and not that much to lose. Women can bail out of a marriage and are guaranteed to have at least a base of support. A man divorces his wife and is automatically on the hook financially no matter the educational and financial level of their partner.

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  84. on August 13, 2008 at 5:43 am Sara saw Fight Club and got laid last night

    83 Boomhauer

    A man divorces his wife and is automatically on the hook financially no matter the educational and financial level of their partner.

    I know a woman who had to pay spousal support. Her husband was a public school teacher, she was a computer graphics consultant and made money. Sure she resented it, but the law is the law.

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  85. on August 13, 2008 at 11:00 am SovereignAmericanMale

    A few isolated instances of palimony doesn’t discredit the fact that men *on the whole* are the ones who get raped in the divorce courts.

    Vaginamony, not palimony is the order of the day. States like California, recognize that primary bread winning provider can be a woman, and will give payment to the male dependant afterwards.

    Women tend to marry up though. Men not so much. Thus the inequality.

    I think the whole system is screwed. Ex spouses should get nothing after the settlement. 1/2 is fair enough, but a percentage of all future earnings is slavery.

    Don’t bring up kids, they are provided for, with something called “Child Support”.

    The answer to divorce in the US, is a weekend in Haiti:

    Fly in on Friday, file Saturday morning and get an official finalized divorce decree, spend the day on the beach, fly out Sunday morning.

    The beauty of it is, simply this:

    Plane Ticket + 48.00 filing fee = Liberty and Financial security from a gold digger.

    US Judges have no jurisdiction over the Haitian divorce decree, and she cannot appeal it here. If she flies to Haiti, she will find out that she has no recourse there either.

    Final Decree means just that.

    Follow Up Action Item List:
    1.
    Monday, empty the joint checking into a new single owner account.
    2.
    Have the locks on the house re-keyed.
    3.
    Then impound her car, that you are paying for.
    4.
    Box up all of her possessions, stick them in a storage rental space, and bill her for storage fees.
    5.
    Bring in a Rottweiler or Doberman Pinscher to protect your back yard from her intrusion.
    6.
    Bring in a new woman to protect your home from her front door barge-in attempts.

    Preferably a hot blooded Spicy Italian or Spanish girl, extra points if she is a sex/violence type (scorpio). She will kick the ex’s ass physically, if need by and go to jail if the cops show up.

    Hey better her then you, right?

    (ask me if I play fair)

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  86. Yeah, there was a nice article in the Wall Street Journal a while back about women who had to pay support to their ex’s.

    One was an out of work actor, she was the successful career person.

    Another was a woman whose husband sacrificed a high paying job so she could get a promotion and a high paying job on the West Coast. Sweet.

    All the women in the article expressed high resentment in paying alimony. Some said they spit on every check they sent their ex, and had other unpleasant ways to vent their anger. IMAGINE!

    As a long term married man, I have decided that marriage (the legal contract stuff) is at the core an economic alliance to raise children. Everything else in the marriage could just as easily transpire without a marriage contract. Our current experience shows that raising children without a good marriage contract is a social disaster.

    All experienced guys know that women expect to get paid for their services/company, whether as prostitute, mistress or wife. It is just in their genes. That just seems fair to their system of logic, which is quit different from that of men.

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  87. on August 13, 2008 at 12:18 pm Patrick Bateman

    @#78 kimbulimbu

    I agree that men should encourage their wives/girlfriends to work out rather than just giving up on them. My girlfriend has never been fat but she did start gaining a bit of weight in undergrad, understandable considering she was an athlete in high school and continued eating like one. I got her in the gym and now her body is even better than when I met her. We encourage each other to stay in shape.

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  88. I agree that men should encourage their wives/girlfriends to work out rather than just giving up on them.

    It’s hard to provide much encouragement when, for the typical man over age 35 or 40, “exercise” consists of flopping down on the couch to watch the game while sucking down obscene amounts of beer, nachos and chicken wings, with maybe an occasional round of cartball.

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  89. on August 13, 2008 at 2:37 pm Usually Lurking

    Damn, Peter, you are really on this. Don’t get me wrong, guys have gotten much fatter. But you take every opportunity to point it out.

    Quick note: I had heard on NPR the other day that the average American gets more calories from the things we DRINK than from what we eat. So, Soda, Fruit Juices, Cappuccinos, Beer, etc.

    The person theorized what would happen to American waistlines if we simply replaced everything we drank with water. That is, if we continued to eat fast food, refined carbs and other crap, that we might not be that fat. This had to do with the fact that we metabolize these liquid calories differently than we do food calories.

    It was interesting stuff.

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  90. 85: Plane Ticket + 48.00 filing fee = Liberty and Financial security from a gold digger.

    Why don’t you save yourself even that much expense and just avoid marrying a gold-digger in the first place?

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  91. on August 13, 2008 at 2:45 pm Usually Lurking

    Why don’t you save yourself even that much expense and just avoid marrying a gold-digger in the first place?

    If it was easy, everybody would be doing it.

    Or, to put it differently, “Hall hath no fury like a woman scorned”.

    Very few women are interested in thinking objectively when going through a divorce. They tend to be angry, or bitter (for obvious reasons) and those feeling feed their intentions. And, the current divorce laws do not help none.

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  92. 86: All experienced guys know that women expect to get paid for their services/company, whether as prostitute, mistress or wife. It is just in their genes. That just seems fair to their system of logic, which is quit different from that of men.

    Jesus, what kind of twisted, morally-bankrupt beasts are you dealing with?!

    What you’re describing is not logical, nor is it universal among women. If that’s what you’re encountering, you need to find better women.

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  93. 91: If it was easy, everybody would be doing it.

    Well, it might involve looking for qualities beyond “hott”. Caveat emptor, is all I’m saying.

    Very few women are interested in thinking objectively when going through a divorce. They tend to be angry, or bitter (for obvious reasons) and those feeling feed their intentions. And, the current divorce laws do not help none.

    It’s almost entirely due to the laws. If objective thinking were required, suddenly you’d see a lot more of it. Like magic! People — not just women, but Americans in general — are a litigious lot, eager for any lucrative legal loophole.

    I’m not endorsing this in any capacity whatsoever, mind you, but to suggest that only women embody this behavior, or that it’s somehow an unavoidable component of womanhood? Come on. Greed and laziness are not gender-specific.

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  94. Damned tags.

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  95. Damn, Peter, you are really on this. Don’t get me wrong, guys have gotten much fatter. But you take every opportunity to point it out.

    It frustrates me no end that every time I walk into the gym I think I’ve accidentally stumbled into Chuck E. Cheese’s. Only the lack of pizza shows me that I haven’t.

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  96. on August 13, 2008 at 3:12 pm Usually Lurking

    Americans in general — are a litigious lot, eager for any lucrative legal loophole.

    Yes, now we are.

    …but to suggest that only women embody this behavior…

    No, not only women. But we, both sexes, feel freer to do whatever the hell we want nowadays. For men, when they fly off the handle, they often end up dead or in prison. So, to some degree, their behavior is “checked”.

    For women, they become entitled and self-involved. So, they go for as much as they can get during divorce. They could care less that they are greatly increasing the chances that the father of their children will commit suicide.

    One thing that I am sure you have noticed is that women of a certain “class” look down their noses of a lesser “class”. And I am not talking about the rich looking down on the poor, but, instead, the intelligent and reserved looking down on the selfish and gaudy.

    These lesser girls were once shamed into submission. No longer. And divorce often shows the extreme of these uninhibited feelings.

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  97. 96: These lesser girls were once shamed into submission. No longer. And divorce often shows the extreme of these uninhibited feelings.

    And the best way to counter this, in the absence of fading societal controls (and in the absence of character & backbone being impressed upon children — all children — at an early age,) is to stiffen up the laws surrounding it.

    If the laws don’t allow advantage-taking, then it won’t matter whether those of lesser character could be tempted to take advantage. It would be better all around if they weren’t weak enough to succumb to the temptation in the first place, of course, but removing the outlet for acting on that weakness will temper the behavior, too.

    To a large degree, it still comes down to Caveat Emptor.

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  98. on August 13, 2008 at 5:05 pm Usually Lurking

    And the best way to counter this…is to stiffen up the laws surrounding it.

    Great. Get the women of America on board and it will be a breeze to change the laws. Somehow, someway, I think that women will have a problem with changing anything about the Alimony, Child Support or Visitation Rights as they currently exist.

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  99. Roissy, so its ok 4 guys 2 have fun nd not girls is tht wot ur sayin

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  100. on August 13, 2008 at 5:35 pm Sara is recovering

    86 Joel

    Everything else in the marriage could just as easily transpire without a marriage contract.

    It really is just a piece of paper and only has whatever meaning people insist on putting on it. In too many cases the relationship takes a nose dive after the wedding because of the ‘ownership’ each starts to feel. After all, they have papers on each other. *smile*

    All experienced guys know that women expect to get paid for their services/company, whether as prostitute, mistress or wife. It is just in their genes. That just seems fair to their system of logic, which is quit different from that of men.

    Isn’t the payment, respect? Isn’t that what everyone wants? Appreciation for what they bring to the table?

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  101. on August 13, 2008 at 5:45 pm Usually Lurking

    Roissy, so its ok 4 guys 2 have fun nd not girls is tht wot ur sayin

    Katie, everybody knows that when guys act like girls, there are consequences. And when girls act like guys, well, same deal.

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  102. on August 13, 2008 at 6:03 pm Gunslingergregi

    I think katie may be like one of those male cops that is a pedofile more than likely that sits in a room pretending to be girl trying to get the guys on the web to try and get with an underage girl. Except shes of age she said who knows.

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  103. I think katie may be like one of those male cops that is a pedofile more than likely that sits in a room pretending to be girl trying to get the guys on the web to try and get with an underage girl.

    So that’s what happened to Gannon.

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  104. 98: Great. Get the women of America on board and it will be a breeze to change the laws. Somehow, someway, I think that women will have a problem with changing anything about the Alimony, Child Support or Visitation Rights as they currently exist.

    Well, I’m on board, for one. And it’s more realistic than expecting people to just spontaneously change while the laws stay the same.

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  105. on August 13, 2008 at 8:39 pm Usually Lurking

    And it’s more realistic than expecting people to just spontaneously change while the laws stay the same.

    Yes, the problem is that 1.) the most intelligent and well-reasoned people are the least likely to scream and shout in an attempt to change laws and 2.) the “rest” are either happy to have the laws work in their favor (i.e. imbalance of power and an injustice) or are too stupid and lazy to realize that the laws are killing them.

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  106. instead, the intelligent and reserved looking down on the selfish and gaudy.

    These lesser girls were once shamed into submission

    Selfish and gaudy girls are better looking than their intelligent and reserved counterparts.

    And the best way to counter this…is to stiffen up the laws surrounding it.

    Maybe the best way at this point is to simply abolish marriage and force couples to create their own legally binding structures as to how they should live together and how said relationships should dissolve. Given the unique structure of each marriage along with its formation and dissolution, it’s probably best for unique solutions for each couple than to create constraining one-size fits-all solutions that may not work for everybody.

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  107. on August 14, 2008 at 1:34 am SovereignAmericanMale

    @90 Anonymous

    85: Plane Ticket + 48.00 filing fee = Liberty and Financial security from a gold digger.

    Why don’t you save yourself even that much expense and just avoid marrying a gold-digger in the first place?

    Gold diggers are not always apparent, some who you think are not, may just be latent in their development.

    I would hazard to say at least 45% of US females are overtly concerned with their husband/fiance’s wealth/income for this reason.

    Some of my counterparts may say that, I am being conservative in my risk assessment and would set the bar at somewhere north of 55%.

    Also, my option is for those men who already married…

    As your premise of avoidance: e.g. “in the first place” doesn’t do anything for the men who are currently married.

    Please consider your remark superfluous, and within that context non-constructive. I suspect you as being both a female, and a gold digger.

    Good Day Maam

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  108. on August 14, 2008 at 1:39 am SovereignAmericanMale

    D.A.

    it’s probably best for unique solutions for each couple than to create constraining one-size fits-all solutions that may not work for everybody.

    Genuine Marriage has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.

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  109. 107: Also, my option is for those men who already married…

    And my option was not. That doesn’t render it useless.

    Please consider your remark superfluous, and within that context non-constructive.

    It could conceivably be of help those who haven’t married — or remarried — yet, therefore it’s not superfluous. QED.

    I suspect you as being both a female

    I am.

    and a gold digger.

    On the basis of what, exactly? That I suggested that men should choose carefully, on the basis of more than superficial qualities? They should. And being an advocate of women having both independence and integrity, in fact I am quite vehemently anti-gold-digging. Nice try at an ad hominem attack, though.

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  110. on August 14, 2008 at 2:41 am SovereignAmericanMale

    @109 Anonymous

    You reason too well, and answer too directly to be a female.
    therefore:
    I was wrong to suspect you of being a woman.

    Any women who targets my originating post and cues in on the phrase “gold digger” and then posts in response to that is a high potential candidate for the same.

    Its not a try at an ad hominem. It was suspicion. I could have said it was other then a suspicion.

    It could conceivably be of help those who haven’t married — or remarried — yet, therefore it’s not superfluous.

    Its outside the scope of my comments, and the scope was not meant to address them. As I clearly pointed this out. I was speaking strictly within the context of the married men and solutions for such.

    Its like a doctor who is doing a open heart bypass, and a nearby doctor starts addressing protocols for a different heart procedure; e.g discussing lifestyle options to prevent cholesterol buildups that require a stent that could have prevented the procedure currently in operation.

    Rather then suggestions to help men who are married, you sought to butt in on gold diggers, and avoiding them. Something not exactly germane to the specifics.

    Its called being “on point”, ask a law student what it means sometime. For a clue consult:

    Superfluous = irrelevant = *NOT* on point.

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  111. 102 & 103 haha lol male cop paedophile, thanx alot. I sed tht sarcastically i hope u know. By the way peter im not underage im 20 thts not underage in most places, well in England it isnt dunno abt america.

    Nd I think soon monogomy wil be a thing of the past and polygamy will bcome prevalent. Ppl marry cos its fun u get 2 wear nice clothes nd stuff.

    I think tht before only men used to cheat with really slutty girls but now if u luk at society everyone cheats dont they?

    Nd i think its ok 4 women who r gold diggers cos arnt the ppl who marry gold diggers as greedyas the gold diggers, like y do they wanna marry sum1 who they know is far prettier thn them, nd who they prob know is with them 4 their money only, they shud be able 2 figure tht 1 out lol. If she is with an uglier guy she shud be able 2 get more of his money dont u think so?

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  112. 110: I was speaking strictly within the context of the married men and solutions for such.

    And I was speaking within the context of nipping the problem in the bud. If more care were taken at the outset, there would be no need for band-aids after the fact.

    Since you’re so keen on analogies, think of it as preventive medicine. HTH.

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  113. on August 14, 2008 at 12:51 pm SovereignAmericanMale

    @112 Anonymous

    Fine and dandy

    Oh I guess you cant get on point &

    Offer a better band-aid would ya?

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  114. 113: Oh I guess you cant get on point & Offer a better band-aid would ya?

    It makes more sense to address curing the disease rather than merely treating a symptom. Feel free to deal in band-aids, if you wish. Go wild.

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  115. on August 15, 2008 at 11:03 am SovereignAmericanMale

    Ad Hom. Incoming.

    You/this reminds me of the shrew who I saw while at a payphone, yelling at her husband while he is changing a flat tire on the roadside: “you should have had them checked and rotated and this wouldn’t have happened”

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  116. 115: Ad hominem? Shrewish? You said you’re interested in band-aids; I said I’m interested in precluding the need for them. I’m not browbeating you to change your approach, I’m just pointing out — per your original accusation of irrelevance — that we simply have two different approaches to the same problem. That doesn’t make either one irrelevant, it makes them different.

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  117. Also, since most of the male posters here appear to be single, and the married ones appear to be content with their situations, it seems to make more sense to be proactive rather than reactive, does it not?

    Making a wiser initial choice will spare a guy from having to resort the drama and expense of your solution. No amount of verbose blathering on your part will render that false.

    More interesting threads beckon….

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  118. LOL @ You’re still fat in a tiara.

    My story. I lived in England for a few years and ran into a bachelorette party at a bar we frequented which just reopened after some renovations. They went whole hog with male stripper and the works. He did a little dance for the group and then took the bride-to-be into the back room for her private dance. What the party and special girl didn’t know was that the bar fitted cameras in their party rooms and a projector and screen in the main room (rolls up into he ceiling). About 90 seconds into her “dance” she started blowing the stripper, to the complete shock of the party, particularly the groom-to-be’s sister that was in attendance! breaks out cheering her on the sister barrels into the room and starts beating her ass. The rest of the party freaked out as well and it quickly turned into a up close version of Cheaters. Who knew we’d have such a fantastic night?!

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  119. ”””””’About 90 seconds into her “dance” she started blowing the stripper, to the complete shock of the party, particularly the groom-to-be’s sister that was in attendance! breaks out cheering her on the sister barrels into the room and starts beating her ass.””””””

    Awesome.

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  120. This crap is totally ghetto. I am proud to say that I have never attended such a gathering. I might be biased because I abhor weddings and bridal culture. American women are becoming increasingly classless. Pat yourselves on the back, ladies.

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  121. Wow. You just can’t stand seeing women having fun!

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  122. […] buy drinks for girls. That rule goes double for girls in birthday or bachelorette parties. Or you could put her on the spot and ask what gifts she got for her birthday. It’s fun to […]

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