The Alpha Male Head Tilt, & Asstd.

“Hold your head high” and “chin up” aren’t just esteem-boosting slogans; they’re nonverbal indicators of the alphaness that women lurv:

Our research investigated if looking at the face from different perspectives as a result of the height differential between men and women influenced perceived masculinity or femininity. The research found the way we angle our faces affects our attractiveness to the opposite sex.”

Men, typically taller than women, view a woman’s face from above; and women view men’s faces from below. Through a series of simulations, the research tested whether the angle of view was an important determinant of masculinity/femininity and attractiveness.

The research found that female faces are judged to be more feminine and more attractive when tilted forwards (simulating viewing from above), and less feminine when tilted backwards (simulating viewing from below). Conversely, male faces are judged more masculine when tilted backwards and less masculine when tilted forwards.

Ya gotta love these traditionalist “real man” throwbacks leaving their drive-by comments at the Chateau castigating the players for their “black and white” view of the “false dichotomy” of alpha males and beta males, while a steady drumbeat of scientific studies flies in the face of their indignant assertions. Here is yet another one of those studies providing support for the view expounded at this blog that there really are objectively identifiable traits — physical, emotional and behavioral — that distinguish alphas from betas. And that you… yes, you the reader… can learn those alpha traits, apply them, and become alpha yourself.

Starting now, you need to hold your head up so that your chin is slightly elevated from parallel with the ground. This is especially critical for short men, who can mimic the alpha gravitas that naturally accompanies taller men by tilting their heads a bit upward. If you find your chin unconsciously returning to its basal beta level pointing at the ground, you can use mental tricks to realign your head tilt to the dominance position. Imagine you are a haughty snob looking down on all the insufferable SWPLs (or proles, season to taste) who live and work around you. Soon, your mind will associate the identification “haughty snob” and “insufferable SWPL” with the backward head tilt, your head will accordingly readjust, and pussy will flow to you like the Orinoco.

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Evidence for group selection?

How well a person performs in a coalition is partly hereditary, according to a recent study.

Researchers found that how successfully an individual operates in a group is as much down to having the right genetic make-up as it is to having common cultural ties with fellow group members.

After assessing nearly 1000 pairs of adult twins, researchers at the University of Edinburgh found that strong genetic influences have a major influence on how loyal a person feels to their social group.

It also has a significant impact on how flexibly they can adapt group membership.

Can a cooperation gene that recognizes in-groups and out-groups evolve without some sort of group selection mechanism at work? Group selection is fascinating to a lot of thinkers because of its implications for the evolution of hard-wired racism in all human populations.

Religion may mitigate inborn xenophobia:

Family ties were less influential. Instead factors outside the family such as ethnicity and religion seem to account for the environmental influences that determine how successfully a group will operate.

To assess the influence of genetics, scientists asked the twins a series of questions about how important it was for them that people with whom they are affiliated share their religion, ethnicity or race.

They found that identical twins – who share all their genes – gave very similar responses, whereas non-identical twins were much more likely to differ in their answers.

Interestingly, they found that being part of a strong religious group made subjects less likely to emphasise ethnic and racial influence when deciding with which coalitions they become involved, regardless of genetics.

The insular, secular elites for whom religion is not needed to pursue successful life strategies need to come to grips with the fact that religion serves as a moral anchor for the lower classes, without which their tendency to flounder, regress and parasitize the provider classes would mushroom. Richard Dawkins wept.

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Yet more evidence confirming the Chateau maxim that women are the biggest misogynists.

Employer callbacks to attractive men are significantly higher than to men with no picture and to plain-looking men, nearly doubling the latter group. Strikingly, attractive women do not enjoy the same beauty premium. In fact, women with no picture have a significantly higher rate of callbacks than attractive or plain-looking women. We explore a number of explanations and provide evidence that female jealousy of attractive women in the workplace is a primary reason for the punishment of attractive women.

Me-OW! Jizzabomb denizens wept.

But other research shows that hot babes receive higher raises than plain janes or fuglies.

Previous research, however, has found that good-looking female workers receive higher raises than their plain or ugly counterparts.

Easily explainable. HR women are the ones filtering potential hirees. Men in positions of power are the ones offering raises.

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Women live longer than men because men are biologically expendable.

On average, women live five or six years longer than men. There are six 85-year-old women to four men of the same age, and by the age of 100 the ratio is greater than two to one. Many hypotheses have been proposed to explain the greater longevity, but there is growing evidence for the disposable soma theory, which says males are genetically more disposable than females.

Maxim #200: Chicks dig guys willing to risk an early, gruesome death. Expendability is a DHV.

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Straight men are becoming A-Ok with smooching their male buds. Chateau hosts called this. The feminization of the Western “man” continues apace. Is it the fuckin soy?

Researchers at the University of Bath have found that heterosexual male students are more comfortable kissing their friends than ever before.

Their research shows that university students now see nothing wrong with showing friendship to another man through a kiss on the lips.

Dr Eric Anderson, from the University’s Department of Education, found that 89 per cent of white undergraduate men at two UK universities and one sixth form college, said they were happy to kiss another man on the lips through friendship.

He found that 36 per cent of these men have also engaged in sustained kissing, initially for shock value, but now they occur just for “a laugh”.

Dr Anderson said: “Heterosexual men kissing each other in friendship is an offshoot of what happens when homophobia is reduced. At these universities, overt homophobia has reduced to near extinction, permitting those men to engage in behaviour that was once taboo.

“Men are kissing each other in university clubs and pubs, in front of their peers, and for many it serves as an occasional, exuberant greeting or banter when partying. The kiss is a sign of affection in student social spaces, a sign of victory on the pitch, or celebration at a nightclub but it does not have a sexual connotation in any of these spaces.

If it isn’t the soy, maybe it’s the fact that British women have turned into a waddling mass of warpigs.

“We noticed that more and more men were kissing each other in clubs or after scoring a goal as a form of celebration, and many would put pictures of themselves kissing their friends on Facebook. We then began our research and realised that the way men tell each other that one has made it into their circle of close friends is to kiss. In this respect men are catching up with women who regularly use a kiss as a sign of affection to a female friend.”

Too funny. I guess fist bumps aren’t cutting it anymore. Theory: As more Western women become cad-chasing, self-entitled solipsistic sluts, the men will respond by finding their affection fix in the arms of other, similarly situated, men. Or there’s something in the water.

Adi, who is heterosexual, added: “My first experience of kissing a man was at uni and I was bit taken aback, but now it feels like a normal act of friendship. It doesn’t feel that it threatens my masculinity or heterosexuality – instead it is becoming part of acceptable masculinity and heterosexuality.”

If you mention your masculinity enough times, Adi, maybe you’ll believe it. By the way, this is how the slippery slope to park bench masturbating and sheep sex starts.

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Kissing other men isn’t the only alternative outlet available to underloved betas. There is always the green card whore option:

An upsurge in marriages between older Swedish men and young, underprivileged foreign women raises serious questions about gender equality, according to a new report.

In a new ‘migration by marriage’ study, experts at the University of St Andrews found that over a fifteen year period there has been a 44% increase in young women moving to Sweden from mainly poorer nations to marry.

The study also found that the poorer the country of birth of the migrant woman, the bigger the age gap between her and her Swedish partner – a finding that experts say raises serious concerns over such women’s freedom of choice.

Green card whores these foreign women may be, but I don’t fault Western men for pursuing this avenue to sexual and emotional fulfillment. No surprise this is happening in Sweden, land of the institutionalized überfeminist and castrated pissbucket boy. When your native women are egomaniac wide-load femcunts unworthy of your time or investment beyond a three month fling, the overseas alternative begins to look very appealing. Sure, it’s straight up barter, but betas getting the shaft end of the stick in the modern dating market might be inclined to overlook the crass exchange of sex for citizenship and dispense with their idealistic romanticism for the chance to steadily bang much younger, and typically more submissive, pussy. Who could blame them? Anything less would be… uncivilized.

And to the shibboleth spewing clackademic tards wringing their hands about “female freedom of choice”: No one’s slapping chains on these poor foreign babes and dragging them into relationships with relatively wealthy Western men. Just as no one’s forcing men at gunpoint to compete for the attention of young, slender chicks. Until these inane feminists come to terms with the fact that men and women have different reproductive goals and sexual desires, we will continue hearing them say the stupidest shit in so-called respectable academic journals.

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Newsflash! It’s better to be born a winner than a loser. Tony Robbins wept.

Attractive people have it all. As babies they get less chastisement, more cuddles, and better presents.

At school they are more popular, have more friends and are less likely to be bullied. And as adults, they have more sexual partners, and are more likely to be married, have a good job, and earn a higher salary – around 10 per cent more than plain Joes and Janes. They are also perceived to be healthier, smarter, and more trustworthy, and if they go into politics they are more likely to be elected. But why are some people seen as attractive and others not? And why have we evolved to find some features attractive and others not?

According to new research, it may all be down to oxidative stress and antioxidants. Psychologists have discovered that men who were rated as the most physically attractive by women have the lowest levels of markers of oxidative stress. […]

Ten bilateral features of the men – ear width, ear height, wrist width, elbow width, lengths of four fingers, ankle breadth and foot breadth – were measured and compared. The men’s urine was measured for markers of oxidative stress and for hormones, and they were quizzed about any birth complications, such as late or premature birth, which can increase levels of oxidative stress. Finally, a group of women were asked to rate images of the men’s bodies and faces for physical attractiveness.

Results show that men who were rated as attractive by the women had significantly lower levels of oxidative stress. And men with more symmetrical bodies had lower levels and were rated as more attractive. Men who had experienced birth problems had higher levels of oxidative-stress markers. […]

Lesson: Ladykillers don’t sweat the small stuff.

Some studies have shown that men are especially attracted to women with a low hip ratio – small waists and large hips. Just why remains elusive, although suggestions have included better child-bearing abilities, improved health, and greater survival. One University of California study showed that women with larger hips perform better in intelligence tests, as do their children.

Body mass index, a measure of both height and weight, is another dimension that has attracted the attention of researchers. A ratio of 20.85 has been found to be most attractive in women, because, say researchers, it is seen by men as sign of good health and good reproductive potential.

The fat cows who lumber in here to moo that female BMIs of 25 are attractive (they use the euphemism “curvy”) are full of shit. Science once again confirms the validity of the Dating Market Test for Women that has been at the top of this blog for three years. Oh, and you gym rats stuff it. BMI is a reasonable measure of attractive body composition for women because most women are not muscle-bound meatheads.

In the same article, why do men prefer blondes? Answer: Handicap principle.

[A]ccording to research out of the University of California, the answer is that blonde hair, like the peacock’s tail or the rooster’s bright-red plumage, is a sign of fitness. The evolutionary reason why men are attracted to blondes is that the hair and skin colour make it easier to spot problems. Anaemia, jaundice, skin infections, cyanosis (a sign of heart disease) and some other conditions, are, these researchers say, much easier to detect in fair-skinned individuals than in brunettes.

So, in ancestral times when bugs and infections were thick on the ground, there was an evolutionary need to be able to pick a mate who would be healthy and have healthy offspring – hence the preference for blondes.

Prediction: this post was very painful to read for we-are-the-world equalists.





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  1. first bitches

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  2. I don’t care what anyone says. I don’t care how acceptable anyone may think it is. I can’t think of anything more disgusting or less appealing than kissing another guy, even if he’s my best friend in the world, on the lips. I can’t imagine that there’s really too many other guys out there who feel differently, no matter what the study says. If I’m wrong, then maybe I just don’t understand the world anymore.

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  3. on November 23, 2010 at 1:13 pm Just A Horny Dude

    Hilarious proof that chicks dig jerks most of all:

    http://www.lamebook.com/its-snow-joke/

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  4. Hooray science. Finally, science nerds can become the alpha they never knew they wanted to be.

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  5. The dude kissing phenomenon has to be a soy product reaction, right? Maybe all the female hormones dumped in the water supply from the pill? As for the hopeless beta theory (and the soy theory), I don’t think there’s a ton of mansmooches in Japan where people marry video games.

    I think the Darwinists are sometimes as bad as the climate change pagans. Blondes are preselected because what? It’s easier to detect bugs, jaundice, dirt? That’s just stupid. Blonde hair is definitely eye catching. But, your results may vary, who doesn’t like a nice redhead? Also, what? There’s no jaundice or bugs in China? Maybe the asians preselect for women with bugs in their hair?

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  6. “I can’t think of anything more disgusting or less appealing than kissing another guy, even if he’s my best friend in the world, on the lips.”

    You lack imagination. What if a guy shit in your mouth while rubbing his ballsack on your nose?

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  7. Lots of goodies in this post.

    Being 6’2″ I don’t have to worry about the head tilt thing but it sounds like a good trick.

    This

    Interestingly, they found that being part of a strong religious group made subjects less likely to emphasise ethnic and racial influence when deciding with which coalitions they become involved, regardless of genetics.

    was interesting but I’ll bet that only works for universalizing religions like Christianity and Islam and not for Judaism or Hinduism. The corollary you draw

    The insular, secular elites for whom religion is not needed to pursue successful life strategies need to come to grips with the fact that religion serves as a moral anchor for the lower classes, without which their tendency to flounder, regress and parasitize the provider classes would mushroom.

    therefore makes the most sense when the lower classes are ethnically varied but religiously compatible, which was the case for example in America in the last century but is inapplicable to a place like Britain today.

    Absolutely spot-on about hiring and promoting. I have observed at a company I consult for regularly how particularly attractive women don’t last long because they get sabotaged by the middle-aged harpies who have been there for 20 years; furthermore men who flirt with these attractive women get criticized for creating a “hostile work environment” (sexual harassment law jargon), not by the attractive ones but by the others, for telling a racy joke or watching a woman’s butt wiggle as she walks away.

    I don’t get the kiss-your-buddy thing at all, not at all.

    For the Swedish story, I want to see the stats on age and country of origin for the brides.

    Low WHR is very good biologically, BMI can be higher as long as the WHR is low. For most women they are strongly correlated because of the proportion of fat going to the abdomen, but putting weight on the boobs and hips while keeping a small waist doesn’t hurt.

    Good theory about blondeness, though I wonder how natural-looking the blonde hair has to be. If a woman has compatible coloring (blue or blue-green or blue-gray eyes, medium to fair skin) then blonde>ordinary-brown though red or auburn or black hair have added value so going blonde isn’t as helpful (though it doesn’t hurt as long is it can look natural). Even an unnaturally bright platinum blonde still looks good if the coloring would be compatible with ordinary blonde.

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  8. The story/study about men kissing men has to be total bullshit. I just don’t buy it.

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  9. roisshie:

    If it isn’t the soy, maybe it’s the fact that British women have turned into a waddling mass of warpigs.

    The New British Woman will be a model of power and feminine drive – a much needed improvement over the past fattiefat fugster.

    problem is, we can’t yet assess her weight status due to this rising new lass wearing a burka.

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  10. “– small waists and large hips. Just why remains elusive,”

    Elusive? How about brain case? Abdominal fat puts pressure on the heart and so does pregnancy. Its quite clear fertile women move their stores to a place that will tend not to kill them.

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  11. on November 23, 2010 at 1:38 pm flyingsquirrel

    All good except the “blonde” part. The “blonde” countries today have fertility rates below replacement, and the “brown” countries are reproducing like rabbits. Some fitness.

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  12. “Maxim #200: Chicks dig guys willing to risk an early, gruesome death. Expendability is a DHV.”

    Go buy a motorcycle.

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  13. on November 23, 2010 at 1:50 pm Lawyer from Hell

    Not so sure about the expendability of males being the reason women live longer.

    Women living longer is a very recent phenomenom that coincides with better care at giving birth, better food supplies and medicine.

    Historically men lived longer.

    Higher attrition due to accidents, suicides, violence and working in settings immicable to health (coal mining, firefighting, nuclear waste disposal) probably explain the dirth of men at the old ages more than anything else.

    Quite frankly, just as women physically age much faster than men at the wall/Cougar event horizon, so to do their evolutionary utility dry up at about the 40 mark.

    Once the kids are grown and they can’t produce any more children, they are unnecessary to the continuation of the species.

    So I suspect it is modern life that helps women live longer and not their natural gifts.

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  14. Zammo

    “Maxim #200: Chicks dig guys willing to risk an early, gruesome death. Expendability is a DHV.”

    Go buy a motorcycle.

    Be a Tea Party poll worker in downtown urban Chicago

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  15. Keep your back straight. Physically impossible to become depressed with an upright, erect posture. Spinal fluid pumps optimally to the brain.

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  16. on November 23, 2010 at 1:54 pm Beta States of America

    This wasn’t Roissy posting this.

    Roissy goes to Estonia and wouldn’t dream of bringing up that radical feminist shibboleth about men being supposedly inferior for dating Russian babes.

    Only betas believe that men who go to Russia are betas.

    That section of the post above should be deleted.

    Roissy has correctly noted that to believe that inferior males go overseas, is to artificially raise the sexual market value of American women.

    Men who fly to Europe to buy quality European cars aren’t doing so because they weren’t adequate enough to drive a Ford or a Chevy back home.

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  17. Better to signal expandability through stories, etc. then to actually risk your life.

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  18. As to the ‘false dichotomy’ of alphas and betas: An alpha is everything a woman wants, and a beta is not quite. Except that women don’t know what they want, and what they want now is not going to be what they want later.

    If you’re talking about a prehistoric group of nomadic ape-men certainly you can make a case for alphas and betas, but in our world, where people live past their mid-twenties, where a nuclear family is (supposed) to be the norm, women ultimately want a combination of alpha and beta traits. That you can net a school of sluts at the local bar by acting like a thug-lite version of yourself doesn’t change that fact.

    Women’s ‘sexual liberation’ is the primary creator of the current alpha/beta dichotomy because they have the impression that they can have their cake and eat it too. They think that they can slut around in their late teens/early twenties, giving their biological programming free reign and then settle down later. Well, in the past their conscious awareness and their unconscious urges had to compromise with each other to choose a mate that had the best qualities from each archetype – short term attractiveness and long term dependability. But this is a false impression, because eventually ‘beta’ men are not going to be willing to put up with their sordid sexual pasts, and women are going to come to a realization that alphas are not going to give them what they ultimately want. Either that is going to happen or this society is going to crumble.

    So in a sense there is a real alpha/beta dichotomy, but only biologically, and in the real world sane people make compromises with their biology for other benefits.

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  19. on November 23, 2010 at 1:57 pm Beta States of America

    Seriously, not to delete that bullshit is to say that American women ARE superior and alphas would, of course, stick around in the US to date them.

    Otherwise alphas would go where the highest quality women really are.

    There simply is no argument around that. You’re beta if you stick around in a feminist culture because you’re lazy or can’t figure out how to swing your career to give yourself more time elsewhere. Period.

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  20. on November 23, 2010 at 1:58 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lzozozozlz i loove you roissy but not in the butthex kinda way but like if we were in the trecnches together i would watch your back but not your buttsecuxl hole zlzozozozo like da neoocns ecnourage zlozozoz and like and publish and porift off of.

    lzoozozozlzl i just started wlaking around with my head-my cockhead–held high and peopele in the coffee shop respect yo!!! I think you misspelled cockhead as head in the flollowing passesage and i just want the boyz to know what you menat: lz

    “Starting now, you need to hold your cockhead up so that your shaft is slightly elevated from parallel with the ground. This is especially critical for short men, who can mimic the alpha gravitas that naturally accompanies taller men by tilting their cocks a bit upward. If you find your cock unconsciously returning to its basal beta level pointing at the ground, you can use mental tricks to realign your cocka tilt to the dominance position. Imagine you are a haughty snob looking down on all the insufferable SWPLs (or proles, season to taste) who live and work around you. Soon, your mind will associate the identification “haughty snob” and “insufferable SWPL” with the backward cock tilt, your cocka will accordingly readjust, and pussy will flow to you like the Orinoco. And rmemeber–lotsa cockas for da ladies!!”

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  21. intp

    Keep your back straight. Physically impossible to become depressed with an upright, erect posture. Spinal fluid pumps optimally to the brain.

    At the club, along with all of Mystery and Style and TD’s tips for hot guaranteed PUA, I shall file this as Crucial Tip # 94,632 in my “Tips That MUST Be Remembered For Successful Kisscloses” sub-folder Gunwitch 3.a6-e4. para 64

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  22. Don’t buy the blond part. This could just as easily be used to explain why men DON’T prefer blonds, as non-blonds are able to hide health better than them.
    But since men prefer blonds, we need some circular reasoning to make that claim.

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  23. Evolution: Don’t pin hopes on group selection. It may be a factor, but will always be overridden by gene or individual-level selection. Individuals are selfish, doubly so when it comes to reproduction. At best, it’s just a hint of a note in a wider chorus, utterly dominated by selfish individuals.

    “The study also found that the poorer the country of birth of the migrant woman, the bigger the age gap between her and her Swedish partner – a finding that experts say raises serious concerns over such women’s freedom of choice.”

    You don’t get the tone at all, CR. You miss it.

    This is the cry of a union getting angry at strikebreakers. Nothing – *nothing* – more.

    And oin men:

    Relax. Of course, dudes.

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  24. I have to agree with Half Canadian. Facts are facts, but these half-assed “Just So Stories” trying to explain the facts are often complete bullshit.

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  25. on November 23, 2010 at 2:07 pm Beta States of America

    Article: “the bigger the age gap between her and her Swedish partner – a finding that experts say raises serious concerns over such women’s freedom of choice.”

    Guest Chateau Poster: “but betas getting the shaft can’t be blamed…”

    That can’t be Roissy or anyone over 30 writing the post above.

    Older Swedish men are not “beta” for dating much, much, much younger women.

    What the Hell – was the implication that older Alpha Swedish males stick with what they can get in Swedish women? Or that there is no such thing as an older Alpha Swedish male?

    Older men, period, are not beta for going for massive age differences.

    The really young person (or older female) who wrote the post above, should speak with Roissy and edit the post above.

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  26. on November 23, 2010 at 2:14 pm Beta States of America

    It is not even remotely true that an older western guy can easily score 9s and 10s in Russia anymore. There is no such thing as a “Mail Order Bride”.

    Western feminists have propagated the myth out of their own insecurities.

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  27. Men, typically taller than women, view a woman’s face from above…The research found that female faces are judged to be more feminine and more attractive when tilted forwards (simulating viewing from above)

    Is this why so many men fall victim to the myspace angles?

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  28. on November 23, 2010 at 2:22 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lzozozlzozozlzozozlz

    all this worrying about game and all here are the two rules summary fo y’alls

    all ya need 2 rememeber is 2 things

    1: text her: lotsa cocka

    2: she texts back: WTF? LOL?

    3: you text back: sory wrng number lzoozlzl bring da movies

    it works EVERY TIME

    she’ll be over craving your cocks lozlzozozlzlz sucking and sucking on it lzozozozozl and foondlding it tryhing to get it to squiret your master sklpha smeems giving her life meaning and her fac ewhite sticky makeup pleaseure slzozlzlzozozozo

    and then hse’ll go oout one hert date lzozolzozlz and some guy wil buy her idnner and w rings slzozlz

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  29. @ Lawyer from Hell

    Please tell me at which point in human history girls had to live and work more (or even equally as) dangerously than men in order to survive. Get a fuckin clue

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  30. I’m not so sure about the male kissing thing. There’s plenty of macho cultures in which kissing a male relative or close friend is considered an acceptable form of greeting. Context is important.

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  31. on November 23, 2010 at 2:39 pm Beta States of America

    Gorbachev – The person writing for the Chateau today just called you “beta” for having fun in Korea. Riiight.

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  32. @C

    Complications from childbirth used to account for a lot of female deaths.

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  33. Even nerds understand the head tilt. Just look up the “haters gonna hate” meme.

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  34. Two points.

    The first point you make about head angle has little to do with “support for the view expounded at this blog that there really are objectively identifiable traits — physical, emotional and behavioral — that distinguish alphas from betas.” That study shows, “Women like tall men.” This is not news. It is possible that women prefer short men who angle their heads back, but the study is not evidence for that. This is a pretty typical example of greatly over-reading scientific evidence to support your own world view.

    Second, your whole thing about kissing. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with traditional cultures, but this isn’t really indicative of gayness or feminity. If you walk around Cairo, then you will quickly notice – besides the fact that every single woman wears a head shawl, because it’s a very conservative culture – it is quite common to see men holding hands. Kisses are a pretty common greeting – see also the Mafia, hardly a bunch of herby cross-dressers. The deep fear of anything approaching a semblance of male-male affection is actually a rather recent and Western outgrowth of a fear of being perceived as homosexual. Portraying men being physically affectionate as a sign of gay-ness or herb-ness is rather myopic, since such actions are common even in very masculine cultures. I can only hope that the bulk of this comment doesn’t get edited out like it did in that twilight chick thread; I hardly think my ideas are so powerful that they must be hidden from the public.

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  35. The insular, secular elites for whom religion is not needed to pursue successful life strategies need to come to grips with the fact that religion serves as a moral anchor for the lower classes, without which their tendency to flounder, regress and parasitize the provider classes would mushroom.

    Very true. And yet, for years those elites have been teaching us the exact opposite: people emerge from the womb pure at heart and living in harmony with all things, and religion turns them against each other and brings war and hatred. What nonsense.

    The straight-men-kissing thing has to be BS, unless some huge percentage of the men in the blue-state cities are bringing up the average. Out here in the small-town Midwest, I don’t know a single man who’s ever kissed another male who wasn’t A) his young son, or B) European, doing the kiss-on-both-cheeks thing. If it’s happening at all, it’s in private, and sure as heck not in public in bars, even college bars. I’d guess this reflects college students trying to be both PC and shocking to their parents’ generation, more so than reality.

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  36. If the Saudis wanted something that would keep them financially solvent after their oil ran out, they should exploit their status as a country where women don’t run things.

    If they allowed enclaves to exist where Western betas could live comfortably without having to put up with Islam, and also without having to deal with Western divorce laws, I could see lots of Western betas being interested.

    The male could offer a woman from a poor country a chance to live more comfortably, but without the risk that she will wind up raping his assets.

    Saudi could populate their own high-tech enclave with Western nerds that way.

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  37. on November 23, 2010 at 2:53 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    the angle of the dangle determines the tingle of her pringle lzozzllzlzlzo

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  38. Half Canadian

    Don’t buy the blond part. This could just as easily be used to explain why men DON’T prefer blonds

    dont think about it too much – everybody knows blonds are just dumb – its the brunettes that are whores.

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  39. on November 23, 2010 at 2:55 pm Beta States of America

    Instead of concentrating on the disgusting men kissing men theme, let’s hear more about how its the alphas in Sweden who are dating the young foreign women, not the betas who are content with the Swedish feminists.

    The alphas take the ferry across from Stockholm to Tallinn (via Helsinki if need be).

    They have their fun in Estonia (like the real Roissy would have noted).

    In the meanwhile the foreigners figure out how to come to Sweden. Alpha of all ages go for them.

    Only a radical feminist would believe that its the betas who do the young foreign women…unless we’re talking about the kind of guy who quickly marries a real whore.

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  40. on November 23, 2010 at 3:00 pm Beta States of America

    Is today’s host afraid that western women readers will think less of him if he comes right out and admits that its the alphas who prefer the foreign women?

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  41. on November 23, 2010 at 3:02 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    hey roissy why do you spend so much time enetertaining us for free? i mean we never thnak u enough buy do it anyways, kinda like jesus–giving freely to all da guys zlzozllzo and not demabdning that we butthex like teh eneoncons noeoecnockas zlozzzlzlozol

    so let me say that on this thanksgiving we are all thankful 4 u zlozlzlzlzlzol our favorite non-butthexual hero zlzolzolozoz

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  42. on November 23, 2010 at 3:05 pm Beta States of America

    What’s more beta:

    1) Practicing keeping your chin up among fat feminists?

    2) Moving to a country where 9s and 10s date men much, much older?

    Hint: the easier one is beta

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  43. on November 23, 2010 at 3:05 pm DevastatinglyFemale

    >>A ratio of 20.85 has been found to be most attractive in women<<

    a young girl with this ratio would be pretty chunky, not to mention it only gets worst after that 'most attractive' phase.

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  44. on November 23, 2010 at 3:08 pm Beta States of America

    Roosh likes going to Brazil. Is he beta?

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  45. Kissing among men is common in Middle Eastern and Mediterranean cultures, but I only see those men kiss on the cheeks or the forehead. I know a lot of Arabs and I’ve never seen two men (or two women) kiss on the lips.

    Honestly, the part of the post about men kissing was uncomfortable to read. I’ve never kissed another woman on the lips.

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  46. “its the alphas who prefer the foreign women?”

    I don’t know. The problem with western women, as far as I can tell from what has been articulated by the host, is that they’ve lost the keystone of civilization of slut-shaming. That means that most chicks in the West are unwilling to settle for anything other than an alpha, tossing away their youth participating in soft harems, eventually getting to be an aged S&TC zombie who believes that there’s a market for washed up cougars with a taste for expensive shoes and handbags.

    The betas can’t compete in this environment since most women seem capable of being sexual dromedaries as five minutes of alphas beats five years of beta.

    Girls who are in marginally good shape and marginally good looks from other countries who still think there’s Marriage 1.0 (instead of Marriage 2.0 for aged betas and revolving slut carousels for alphas) in the USA are good match for betas who lose out in Marriage 2.0 (but who were the backbone of America back in Marriage 1.0). Girls who would’ve been marriage material 30 years ago are now slutting it up on facebook, living off of compliments from chumps or submitting pics to the Chive.

    So, yeah, the host likes a non-slut ten from Belarus not because she’s from Belarus but because she’s willing (nay, able) to pair-bond for the host’s desired 3 month coupling before moving on. Betas would like that too and these hypothetical girls may be the only high value girls they can reasonably get.

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  47. @Beta States of America
    Gorbachev – The person writing for the Chateau today just called you “beta” for having fun in Korea. Riiight.

    First –

    Hey, I never said I was Alpha or Beta – I just like women. And I found some neat angles to get lots and lots and lots of attention. And I’m clever enough to learn and apply the principles of game and not be a social retard. If that’s alpha, so be it – or beta, so be it.

    Second –

    This is what CR said:

    Green card whores these foreign women may be, but I don’t fault Western men for pursuing this avenue to sexual and emotional fulfillment.

    “Western men” – not western Betas.

    No surprise this is happening in Sweden, land of the institutionalized überfeminist and castrated pissbucket boy. When your native women are egomaniac wide-load femcunts unworthy of your time or investment beyond a three month fling, the overseas alternative begins to look very appealing. Sure, it’s straight up barter, but betas getting the shaft end of the stick in the modern dating market might be inclined to overlook the crass exchange of sex for citizenship and dispense with their idealistic romanticism for the chance to steadily bang much younger, and typically more submissive, pussy. Who could blame them? Anything less would be… uncivilized.

    He doesn’t say alphas can’t do the same thing.

    Besides, my current paramour is of vaguely American extraction. She’s at least a citizen. And pretty SWPL, too.

    Enjoying yourself in other countries is par for the course. You’re not taking from these places. You’re adding value, in a way. It’s win-win.

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  48. Obama does the chin thing all the time (as did Mussolini), but in his case I think he really is just a haughty snob, looking down his nose at us.

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  49. on November 23, 2010 at 3:25 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lzozozlzlzl

    someone made a funny video about today’s males trying to navigate the modern neocon feminsiiziens workspspalce zlozlzlz trying to impress theireieic eosos lzozlzlz zlzlz

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  50. Michael kissed Fredo only once, just sayin’.

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  51. You guys can’t kiss until you’ve farted in front of each other first. hee! hee!

    couldn’t help myself! hehhe!!

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  52. Beta States of America

    Roosh likes going to Brazil. Is he beta?

    like, c’mon dood – he has a sixpack

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  53. what

    You guys can’t kiss until you’ve farted in front of each other first. hee! hee!

    here it IS diff: you see, that’s because in asia couples are only comfortble with each other after they’ve devoured their first ceremonial girl-fetus

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  54. The section “Straight men are becoming A-Ok with smooching their male buds.” would be better titled
    “British straight men are becoming A-Ok with smooching their male buds.”. I haven’t seen this anywhere in the US.

    I don’t see the Brits (or other commonwealth types) I know going for this either, but then they’re not pussies.
    Perhaps
    “British straight wimps are becoming A-Ok with smooching their male buds. “

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  55. @Firepower
    “what
    You guys can’t kiss until you’ve farted in front of each other first. hee! hee!”
    “here it IS diff: you see, that’s because in asia couples are only comfortble with each other after they’ve devoured their first ceremonial girl-fetus”

    They don’t devoured them. They abort them or put them up for adoption. How is this related to farting and kissing? Firepower…what are you on?!! hahhaha!!!

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  56. oh right, I wonder if Krauser wants to weigh in on his countrymen?

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  57. The study also found that the poorer the country of birth of the migrant woman, the bigger the age gap between her and her Swedish partner – a finding that experts say raises serious concerns over such women’s freedom of choice.

    Feminist bias. Just as easy to say “men’s freedom of choice” and to assume that older men are more easily taken advantage of by young seductive women using the men’s loneliness and money for immigration entry purposes.

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  58. what

    They don’t devoured them. They abort them or put them up for adoption. How is this related to farting and kissing? Firepower…what are you on?!! hahhaha!!!

    when i trvel to your city [and your not a dood-i know not likely] and you’re hot , i’ll be on you.

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  59. Sweden and foreign brides: That’s the country where is it not illegal to be a prostitute and sell sex but it is illegal for the man to buy the sex. The prostitute is always a victim. Imagine the mind that formulated that law. How man hating can you be? If a man can’t get sex for free, he is a criminal. Imagine the free sex an unattractive man of 65 would be able to get. Ugly, huh? Makes me shutter to think about. Look for a movement to ban these marriages in Sweden by showing that the very willing foreign brides are victims. Maybe they will incarcerate the men.

    About women living longer than men: This is a very new phenomenon. Men used to go through a number of wives, women being used up having children. Talk about disposable.

    POLYGAMY ALERT.

    A good example of men doing just fine by not caring one bit for society’s restrictions on male behavior.

    Saw an article about Mormons in a town in Canada. Some have 20 wives. The trick is the state doesn’t recognize their 2nd marriage as legal. Therefore, there is no polygamy going on legally and nothing to prosecute. Just a bunch of single moms in a small town with a steady boyfriend. The single moms are all on welfare, so the state is actually subsidizing polygamy. Take note of that, beta boys.

    This is a better deal than the men and women got in Albert Schweitzer’s day in Africa. Then, the young man would negotiate a bride price with the father, but pay the bride price in installments. He would put the wife to work farming, and sell the food to pay off the bride price, and, save up money for the down payment on his next wife. Really, women have it too easy these days. Maybe that is why they live so long.

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  60. @rob

    “I can’t think of anything more disgusting or less appealing than kissing another guy, even if he’s my best friend in the world, on the lips.”

    You lack imagination. What if a guy shit in your mouth while rubbing his ballsack on your nose?

    Put a lot of thought into this, have you?

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  61. Firepower,

    I made a promise to the editor that I won’t engage in SUCH conversations.(looking real innocent) hehe!! or…he will band me. I promised. plus…I’m taken. boo.

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  62. @FactCheck

    your whole thing about kissing. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with traditional cultures, but this isn’t really indicative of gayness or feminity. If you walk around Cairo.. [blah blah blah]

    Yes, yes, we all know about French/Mediterranean/Arab types who have always been into social smooching other dudes. The point is that this is not traditional in Anglo-Saxon culture. It’s unthinkable that this would be common in Britain or America as anything other than a very short-lived fad for shock value.

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  63. North Korea – Alpha or Beta?

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  64. I am of asian descent (fob). Why would I find blonde/blue eyes more attractive than dark features if there were no women with blonde/blue eyes in my home environment?

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  65. Or it could just be more gay propaganda. Let’s criminalize bullying and by criminalize bullying, I mean criminalize criticizm of teh gheys.

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  66. As an Anglophile, it pains me to have to write off the UK.
    But what must be done must be done.

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  67. <<<<>>>>>>>

    Misogyny is hatred of women.

    What we have here are old bitter seacows in Human Resources who hate good looking females.

    Not all women, just the ones who actually care about looking good or are hot naturally.

    An attractive chick will face this bias from unhappy unattractive women in all walks of life.
    It really frustrates me.
    I like the world being full of hot people, male and female.

    If someone is disabled or born with physical defects, they have my full compassion.

    But to actively let yourself go, look frumpy and then punish other women for it, is pathetic.

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  68. “The insular, secular elites for whom religion is not needed to pursue successful life strategies need to come to grips with the fact that religion serves as a moral anchor for the lower classes, without which their tendency to flounder, regress and parasitize the provider classes would mushroom.”

    I think the smarter elites know this all too well (and the others are merely useful idiot sheeple anyway.)

    How does one control the “bitter clingers” when they, well, keep clinging?

    These fuckers are commie scum (or “progressive-fascist” if you prefer.)

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  69. Straight men are becoming A-Ok with smooching their male buds. Chateau hosts called this. The feminization of the Western “man” continues apace. Is it the fuckin soy?

    In Fifty Years We’ll All Be Chicks: . . . And Other Complaints from an Angry Middle-Aged White Guy

    Your daily inoculation against the rise of the liberals, cunts and homos.

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  70. on November 23, 2010 at 5:29 pm Vincent Ignatius

    In ten years, frat boys engaging in butt sex will be just as acceptable as girl on girl action in sororities is today.

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  71. on November 23, 2010 at 5:39 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    “Vincent Ignatius

    In ten years, frat boys engaging in butt sex will be just as acceptable as girl on girl action in sororities is today.”

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  72. At its essence, religion is a vehicle for expanding trust and cohesion outside the family/clan, thereby maximizing genetic benefits. It is an integral part of evo-psych. Even stupid SWPL ideology serves as a proxy for this.

    Of course Islam allows first-cousin marriage, defeating the whole point (and creating a planetful of mooks.)

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  73. on November 23, 2010 at 6:00 pm Lawyer from Hell

    “C
    @ Lawyer from Hell

    Please tell me at which point in human history girls had to live and work more (or even equally as) dangerously than men in order to survive. Get a fuckin clue”

    Hey retard, try for reading comprehension. Where did I say that? i said women died more historically than men. Men lived longer unitl recently Read a little Aristotle and you’ll see him mention the fact that men live longer.

    Women have way more health problems than men over the course of their lives. Most of the health care expenses goes toward women in the United States ( up to 75%) and keeping them alive.

    In the last 500 years the lives of women has gotten considerably easier and safer due to men and they have reaped more of the rewards in terms of longevity than men, while men still engage in hazardous labor and still have more risks in their lives.

    From an evolutionary stand point since men need to compete, sometimes violently to mate (and approximately 50% of men get culled every generation in terms of having offspring) it makes sense they are more hardy over the majority of their lives, while women are from a continuation of the species point of view, wholly unnecessary and unable to produce after 40.

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  74. Blond hair is linked with more estrogen.

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  75. “its the alphas who prefer the foreign women?”

    Everybody prefers foreign women. Some people don’t get it. If some middle aged schlub can get the attention of a decent looking woman, think what a lessor alpha can get. Everyone does better.
    What do Russian Hockey players like?

    “I have a true love, so I don’t look at any other women. You know, I’m extremely fortunate that I met a Russian girl in America. It’s difficult to look at a lot of the local women. You get the feeling that just don’t take care of themselves! There are an awful lot of heavyset ones. But Russian girls have nice trim figures. I couldn’t imagine myself being with an American girl.”

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  76. I’ve noticed that my jaw looks more square, and my face overall more masculine, when my head is tilted back. I really feel sorry for short guys with weak jaws…

    until I remember that most of them are little Napoleonic shits. Ive worked with and for several.

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  77. Roisy

    I have only been aware of your blog for the past two weeks. It is an eye-opener. What you are describing here is proper conduct in the prosecution of a war. How did this war begin then ? And will it ever end ? Me, I am getting tired of this.

    I wish I could settle down and be a fat old slob that hollers at the sport on the telly, while she’s knitting. I wish I could hide my cigarettes where she wouldn’t find it, and if she does, she’ll leave a few because of the chocolates next to it. Is this beta ?

    If it is, I don’t care.

    It seems in my headlong dash for blissful mediocrity, I’ve got to be a real prick to got a good pussy.

    My God that’s a schlep.

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  78. on November 23, 2010 at 6:39 pm Devilishly Alpha

    I got a mohawk during this past summer, and girls creamed themselves over it, even when I wasn’t too sure I liked it. I’m 22, have an athelitc build (trying to get that six pack), work as a bartended and just got a motorcycle. When I feel myself having shitty posture. I throw my shoulders back, and tilt the head up. I’m not worried about not getting laid or losing a chick because I know there’ll be more. I tease mercilessly and smile and wink to all the girls I know, and even new ones I meet. I also take the liberty of letting them know they’re attracted to me. I have to beat girls away with a stick to get anything done, and have orbiters who will do anything for me =)

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  79. on November 23, 2010 at 6:54 pm Obstinance Works

    You lack imagination. What if a guy shit in your mouth while rubbing his ballsack on your nose?Now that’s what I’m talking about. She also likes when you piss on her tits.

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  80. @lcs

    “Obama does the chin thing all the time (as did Mussolini), but in his case I think he really is just a haughty snob, looking down his nose at us.”

    Disagree, I think someone trained him to do that. Political consultants manufacture political images.

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  81. Super-informative article. One of the very best posts ever here IMO.

    The info about chin angles, blondes, and oxidative stress (frozen blueberries and frozen cherries are terrific) are the kind of info that publications like TIME should provide us with, but don’t.

    Thought-out-loud for the Chateau:

    Contemplating the old footage of the Beatles performing while girls literally were “crying over them” in the audience made me think of just how hard a woman’s circuitry must be to obtain alpha-male sperm over beta-male sperm. The women in the audience would cry when the security personell kept them away from the stage. You can see this in some old Rolling Stone footage (YouTube “Under My Thumb” and “live” to see). The men in these bands were generally nothing special to look at, except perhaps the young Paul McCartney being considered “cute”. They weren’t physically imposing or muscular. But they were the unquestioned alphas of those particular environments to such a degree that women would act in ludicrous ways to display their desire for these men, even to the point of acting batshit crazy to signal it.

    BTW—-I wonder if the “peacock” theory could be as well stated as a “immune system” theory. When the swpl behaves as if he doesn’t care if this nation even watches its border and doesn’t regard as many as 20 million people crossing it per year as a danger to him, what he is saying (my opinion) is, “thats OK, my teaching job will still be here, it doesn’t affect me”. He is signalling that his immune system can handle that particular threat. Mention online education with teachers recording lectures in Mubai, and the same liberal will grow very intensely agitated………..because his immune system wont swat that fly. When he demonstrates “fabulous unconcern” about potential competition for proles (outsourcing manufacturing) but overweening concern about competition for himself, who is he signalling that he considers his real life-competition is?

    I say the people he (or she) view as potential sexual competition are what their hindbrain views as the greatest potential adversary. Nuclear weapons in a very indirect way, have provided for this. If this were a nation really afraid of being conquered, I doubt people exhibit these feelings, but MAD ends all that. We can’t imagine being “regime-changed” like Iraq, and occupied.

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  82. Geez, Beta States of America, get the sand out of your vagina. All he said was that foreign green-card whores are an option for betas. I think any kind of whoring is beta if you ask me, whether it’s green cards, green backs, or green sofas.

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  83. on November 23, 2010 at 7:37 pm Professor Woland

    I had though that the reason blond hair evolved was that it disguises age. The lighter the hair the younger someone looks because hair has a tendency to darken as we get older. Only “true” blonds stay blond their entire lifetime. It is an evolutionary trick.

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  84. @chi-town

    Blond hair is linked with more estrogen.>>>>

    This is true according to two very solid scientific studies done a few years ago.

    And as a natural Strawberry Blonde I find it interesting….

    http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/the_evolution_of_blond_hair_and_blue_eyes_among_nordics/

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  85. z,

    Good observation about competition and social immune systems. Of course the SWPLs don’t realize that their “safe” jobs are the froth on the beer, even if an immigrant from Mexico or India can’t do it that won’t help them if the job goes away.

    In my own industry I don’t compete directly with foreigners — there are plenty who come here on H1B visas but I am at a level which requires lots of business skills and experience, and linguistic as well as technical excellence. However, they still affect me because the influx of H1B’s has kept salaries stagnant for the industry as a whole, which trickles up.

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  86. I’m not surprised that blond hair is linked to more estrogen. I often find natural blondes to have pleasant personalities.

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  87. – Hmm, I should practice that head tilt, not only as I have a somewhat receding chin so should probably learn to compensate for it, but also because I have a disdain towards both SWPLs and proles.

    The insular, secular elites for whom religion is not needed to pursue successful life strategies need to come to grips with the fact that religion serves as a moral anchor for the lower classes, without which their tendency to flounder, regress and parasitize the provider classes would mushroom. Richard Dawkins wept.

    The lower classes do not quite develop the same internalized cost/reward model as the higher tiers, so had to be coerced into acting out of hope of reward or fear of punishment, hence religion. I was trying to explain this to a fervent atheist of the usual progressive mould but he just wouldn’t hear it. Comfortable liberals tend to assume other people are wired like them, when they aren’t.

    However, most openly religious people I know (barring Muslimmigrants and the Irish diaspora) are middle-class. I put this down to status seeking. The middle-classes wish to appear pious, whether it’s through religion or the currently more modish secular progressivism. And yet, by nature the proles do not acknowledge bourgeois status-games, so naturally they reject religion and progressivism. Their status-games are far more primitive (e.g. who’s got the most the most consumer goods and general ‘bling’). Tougher anti-crime measures are the only sure-fire way to keep them subdued.

    At the end of the day, status-games, as dictated by the socio-cultural/political hegemony, ultimately neuters the middle-classes, paving the way for a more aggressive yet degenerate and parasitic proletariat, resulting in societal breakdown. Karl Marx, the world’s first SWPL, knew this but he couldn’t hack it. So he and his chums go about condescendingly telling the proles that they’re oppressed; the proles simply see an excuse to let off some steam by smashing shit up, after which the poncey Bolsheviks just sauntered into the Kremlin.

    – I think the trend of more heterosexual males kissing is less to do with compensating for lack of female company and more part and parcel of progressivism. I see mostly trendy hipster SWPL students doing it, and all shades in between that and ‘bro’. If men naturally sought other male company through lack of female intimacy, we’d be seeing far more beta/omega aspie nerdy types gaying it up with eachother.

    In the UK, it’s not the attractiveness of British girls that’s the problem, it’s that they’re the most self-entitled.

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  88. This is the most awkward website in the history of the world.

    http://www.attackofthehoverhand.com/

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  89. An example from above site:

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  90. Hair color is genetic, not hormonal. Blondes are blonde because that’s what their ancestors were.

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  91. @Trim

    I think the basic idea is that blond correlates with more estrogen not that estrogen make people blond.

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  92. on November 23, 2010 at 9:05 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    this video has more alpha head tilting than all of y’all combinedzlozzlolzlzzllz

    and this one it has more alpha head tilting than my cockas has inches:

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  93. Vincent Igantius: “In ten years, frat boys engaging in butt sex will be just as acceptable as girl on girl action in sororities is today.”

    Damn, I sure the @#$% hope not. At least Snoop Dogg wouldn’t do Boys Gone Wild if it does.

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  94. Hey, the hoverhand website has a photo Roissy has used for alpha/beta comparo purposes. Fourth one down, I swear I’ve seen it here.

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  95. Gramps:

    “About women living longer than men: This is a very new phenomenon. Men used to go through a number of wives, women being used up having children. Talk about disposable.”

    Hilarious for being totally, totally wrong. Read pretty much anything on prehistoric times. Or anything on human evolution. Menopause is an evolved trait. Women have lived to old age – and lived longer than men – for a very, very long time.

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  96. Thanks for the head tilt tip. Roissy, do you have any advice about when to use the opposite: the Clooney, tilt down and peering up with the eyes look?

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  97. on November 23, 2010 at 10:21 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    The “men kissing men” meme has some basis in truth, probably.

    But it’s being pushed by the media since it fits the college/liberal/feminist/SWPL”narrative” that we’re all equally bisexual and “gender is socially constructed.”

    Instead of sweating the details of such articles look to see what the agenda is behind the fact that they’re written.

    This is also why you also constantly see articles praising women doing men’s jobs or behaving like men do sexually. The (false) message is “See, we’re all the same! Genetics don’t matter!”

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  98. More proof Alphaness is genetic! More proof that game might work for decent Betas but the rest ought to just stay at home.

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  99. haha hover hand is awesome.

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  100. Survived by his wife ….

    In the book, The Lucifer principle: a scientific expedition into the forces of history ; author Howard Bloom writes.

    “Men were designed to live short, nasty, brutal lives. Women were designed to live long miserable ones.”

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  101. Thanks for the Summer Glau pic.

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  102. Thank you, @FactCheck. @Lawyer from Hell, you are evidently so because you make ignorant assertions based on your own limited, subjective knowledge and experience.

    Historically, women have lived longer than men – obviously those who didn’t die in excruciating pain while giving birth, and even discounting all the males who killed themselves in stupid foolhardy accidents or violence.

    Evolutionarily, there is an excellent reason. Men are the more disposable ones – not women who are ‘used up’ from having children. Older women were valuable help in birthing and raising their daughters’ and others children. Old men who could no longer hunt or produce were just another mouth to feed.

    Think of it – 9 men and 1 women only means at most 1 child every 1.5 years or so.

    9 women and 1 man can mean 9 children every 1.5 years.

    From an evolutionary standpoint of species survival, men are clearly less valuable, particularly when old – hence women have always on average lived longer.

    So easy to point out the arrogant, delusional irrationality on display here.

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  103. on November 24, 2010 at 2:31 am Beta States of America

    Karl Marx an SWPL? I thought he was a Satan worshiper, which is why he let his hair go like that. Apparently his grave is still a major place for Satanic rituals. Both his daughters committed suicide.

    Lenin and the Bolsheviks were given 20 million US dollars by a banker in New York to launch their revolution when the Tsar was at his weakest. The banker was a member of Skull & Bones (of Bush family fame) which started in Germany after the Illuminati were banned and took up a home at Yale University and (for their once per year meeting) Deer Island in the St. Lawrence River.

    GBFM: I’ve been reading “Hope of the Wicked” which is your kind of book.

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  104. on November 24, 2010 at 2:51 am Beta States of America

    GBFM: I’ve been wondering about what “Hope of the Wicked” is trying to say about the CFR-Skull and Bones-Illuminati conspiracy to “control the world”. The book was written by a devout Christian who hates the idea that the conspiracy has wanted to lower the influence of religion (I’d give the conspirators a high five for that part – except the book says that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen for nuking because they were the two Catholic cities of Japan, which isn’t cool if true).

    A theme I wanted to see more written about was why the bankers want to see the average western person impoverished (why the current financial crisis would have been deliberately designed to put men and women into crisis mode). The Christian author, being apparently asexual, wouldn’t have had a clue on whether there was a sexual competition component to male bankers impoverishing the average male competitor.

    A working theory of mine is that the bankers know the secret that all the money in the world won’t help them, individually, to get laid with 10s from the general population UNLESS the average 10 is impoverished, which will make her more amenable to meeting up with an aging Rothchild or Rockefeller male.

    On the surface, this would be evil: the rich bankers controlling the world causing a massive financial crisis because they “can’t compete” with young bartenders with mohawks who get a lot of women in bed when the women are capable of working for and paying their own rent.

    But I’ve seen it discussed on this blog that the financial crisis has been a real boon to all men who still held their jobs. I’ve seen guys here say they were HAPPY about the financial crisis because it took a lot of women off the carousel of chasing after bartenders their own age and into the arms of those who could provide (Alpha Providers exist just like Beta Providers).

    So I’m not sure if the Illuminati are evil so much as exercising human nature: these banker guys want to control the world so they can snap their fingers and get laid anytime they want.

    I just don’t get the part about why they support anti-male feminism and the feminism that insists American women should only date their own age. Can anyone answer why the CFR-Neocon-Skull and Bones types are such supporters of this type of feminism?

    If real men wanted to control the world, I’d do everything to join them.

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  105. on November 24, 2010 at 4:44 am Beta States of America

    A man can have all the game in the world and he still has to face this:

    Looks: Women will reject him if he is more than 2 points below what she thinks she is on the looks scale. The only way to beat this is for SOCIETY to tell young women that they are ugly or soon will be. He can neg but that’s apparently built into what gets him the 2 point difference.

    IQ: Dumber guys will say on this blog that genius guys are often socially inept and, therefore, get rejected by hotties. What’s really going on is that women will refuse to date men long-term who are more than 20 points higher on the IQ scale than they are. Women marry up, but not too far up. Women fear rejection more than men and know a much smarter men will reject them after they lose their looks. Smart guys often have to play dumb to keep dumb women interested.

    Politics: A woman who has swallowed the Marxist world view will go out of her way to be rude to a conservative Alpha. Game can barely get around that and only temporarily. Very temporarily. Women on US campuses are often seen with skinny Muslim boyfriends (white guilt syndrome). Similarly, anti-American propaganda in other countries can be very effective in stopping “educated” foreign women from being interested in American men.

    Age: Depending on the culture, it is deadly for a man to tell a woman he is a certain number of years older than a woman at the beginning of the relationship (after sex it matters less what the truth is). The US is the worst place of all for a man to be over 35. That can change but probably only after a massive world war, huge financial crisis or at least the destruction of the current anti-male media that molds how Americans think.

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  106. on November 24, 2010 at 5:06 am Beta States of America

    Its a standard theory around here that “betas” are disenfranchised by feminism, but “older guys,” and “conservative guys” are hurt far more while Marxism (and PUA propaganda) marginalizes “rich guys,” thus hurting the incentive for men to work hard building civilization.

    One can argue that to state that mainly “betas” are hurt by feminism, is a call for alphas to support feminism as being to their own relative advantage.

    I’ve also seen it stated here that average joes won’t work so hard if the rich guys or alphas get big harems, but this IMO is a more left wing way of looking at things than the more right wing theory I have that, if men can’t get rich and build huge harems partly as a result, then what’s the point of trying so hard to get rich?

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  107. “Older women were valuable help in birthing and raising their daughters’ and others children. ”

    your grandma breastfeeded you?

    “Think of it – 9 men and 1 women only means at most 1 child every 1.5 years or so.

    9 women and 1 man can mean 9 children every 1.5 years.”

    yeah and if a bear attacked and killed the man then you’ll have 9 rag munchers looking for any man, young or old, to satiate their hungry wombs. and then there are other contingencies:

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  108. on November 24, 2010 at 6:43 am Timothy Webster

    @Gorbachev

    Are you available for some offsite consulting? Currently gaming a girl from Cologne.

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  109. Completely off-topic question, Roissy: One thing I don’t fully understand is why does women’s fertility follow a life course so different from men’s. Why is it that women peak AND plummet much faster than men in terms of reproductive capacity? How does evolution explain that?

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  110. on November 24, 2010 at 7:21 am Beta States of America

    Tim: Ask her about whether she participates in the Karnival celebrations in February. If she says she does, run.

    Seriously, read up on the annual celebrations there so she knows you’re hip to what her city is famous for. Google the history of the massive cathedral, now by the main train station, as well. This was apparently the tallest building in the world for hundreds of years until the Chrysler Building or something in New York was built.

    One hundred years ago, tourists thought of the cathedral like people later thought of the World Trade Center.

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  111. Lawyer from Hell:

    “while women are from a continuation of the species point of view, wholly unnecessary and unable to produce after 40.”

    If you had children, you’d know how extremely useful grandmothers can be as babysitters. In the past when there was little professional healthcare available and women gave birth at home midwifery was an old women’s job.

    (In another comment, you also mentioned nuclear waste disposal as an example of a particularly dangerous male dominated line of work among such as mining or firefighting. What makes you think nuclear waste disposal is particularly dangerous or unpleasant work?)

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  112. […] This post was mentioned on Twitter by John Orok, Tori Lafferty. Tori Lafferty said: DR's Love Update The Alpha Male Head Tilt, & Asstd. « Citizen Renegade http://bit.ly/g7YZ3a #love #women #kiss […]

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  113. >Prediction: this post was very painful to read for we-are-the-world equalists.
    Nope. all shit I already knew.

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  114. Interesting article, indeed. I’ll try that chin trick because I’m pretty short (5’5″), does anybody have any experience with that?

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  115. This is interesting.

    http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/EP08682694.pdf

    These scenarios produced intriguing sex differences, such that men’s ratings of women fell after learning she had rejected her last partner, but women’s ratings of men increased after the same information was introduced.

    That is women liked men more they broke off a previous relationship and men liked women less when they did it.

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  116. I recall being teased mercilessly as a teenager by certain people about my prominent jawline and chin. Now I get compared to Mel Gibson in the looks department, so I suppose it was just plain old envy. That, my friends, is how other people will try to chop you down.

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  117. @DJ

    They went after my deep voice. Now I am with a girl where you can smell the estrogen in her voice. At first, I would get all chubby just listening.

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  118. They went after my 300 lb frame and ultrasmall penis. Now that I date trannies, it’s not such a big deal. Everyone else is just jealous.

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  119. RE: Prehistoric Male Vs. Female life expectancy.

    Can’t remember all the reasons, but life expectancy of men WAS indeed higher than women. I remember learning it in an Anthro class. Proff said there were exceptions, but the majority of digs he knew about revealed men lived longer.

    Even less than 10 years ago several countries had higher male life expectancies. Consider Bhutan:

    0-14 years: 30.2% (male 106,410/female 102,164)
    15-64 years: 64.3% (male 235,988/female 208,484)
    65 years and over: 5.5% (male 20,169/female 17,926) (2009 est.)

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  120. mr Beta states of america.
    The Illumninati is evil.
    The created feminism to destroy the nuclear family.
    Check out http://www.henrymakow.com.

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  121. I’d like to point out that in the picture of “Bring the movies” guy, he has his head tilted well back and to the side.

    Bring the movies, people. Bring the movies.

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  122. on November 24, 2010 at 12:01 pm Anonymouses Anonymous

    @Roissy:
    “Straight men are becoming A-Ok with smooching their male buds.”

    It does not matter if I am the last guy who does not kiss guys. Anyone who attempts something gay like that on me is dead.

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  123. @J. S. Mills “Older women were valuable help in birthing and raising their daughters’ and others children. Old men who could no longer hunt or produce were just another mouth to feed.”

    Older men (and keep in mind that in the context of primitive society, anybody over 30 is “old”) are also helpful in raising the kids. Making arrowheads and spear points is a very skilled activity (you ever try chipping flint into a useful shape?) that takes a while to learn to do correctly. You need to have somebody who can teach the younger males, make needed stuff, and defend the camp while the younger hunters are away. Young teens have speed and stamina (good for hunting) while men don’t come into their maximum strength (good for defending your current location) until later in life.

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  124. The handicap principle is probably not the reason why blondes are more attractive. There are plenty of people with very fair skin who don’t have blonde hair (redheads, the Irish who typically have dark hair and fair skin).

    The reason is more likely youth.

    “Blond hair is unique in that it changes dramatically with age. Typically, young girls with light blond hair become women with brown hair. Thus, men who prefer to mate with blond women are unconsciously attempting to mate with younger (and hence, on average, healthier and more fecund) women. It is no coincidence that blond hair evolved in Scandinavia and northern Europe, probably as an alternative means for women to advertise their youth, as their bodies were concealed under heavy clothing.”

    More in the article below; I have a feeling Mr. Kanazawa would feel at home in the chateau.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200706/ten-politically-incorrect-truths-about-human-nature

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  125. what

    Firepower,

    I made a promise to the editor that I won’t engage in SUCH conversations.(looking real innocent) hehe!! or…he will band me.

    surely an editor worth comprehending then dedicating homage to The Story of O is up for a bit of the old banding. plus, he has much in common with me, as a devoted fan of DAZNs

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  126. DAZNs… je ne comprends pas.

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  127. dizzy asian girls – or dags if you want

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  128. I learn something new everyday! yeepee!

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  129. Caligula,
    My hairdresser told me it is rare for an adult woman to be naturally blond, even if she was as a child.

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  130. thats just because all hairdressers are fags

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  131. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser
    A story on linux nerds and mail order brides. You might appreciate it.

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  132. @Roissy “religion serves as a moral anchor for the lower classes, without which their tendency to flounder, regress and parasitize the provider classes would mushroom.”
    Correction: It USED to serve this purpose. Now these lower classes tend to see church as a day-long social gathering (thus conveniently avoiding any real productive work on Sundays) and the concept of divine forgiveness as their guarantee of being “saved” no matter how destructive their behavior.

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  133. Phaggot,

    You lost us at bride…

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  134. Lara, having lived in Scandinavia for much of my life I know this to be untrue. Blonde hair darkens with age, but there are plenty of young women with naturally blonde hair.

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  135. on November 24, 2010 at 9:40 pm Timothy Webster

    @Beta States of America

    Thanks for the recommendation, looking those details up now.

    If a girl has good facial features and a nice body, but hides it with a butch haircut and manly cover-alls. But adds a splash of purple to her hair. And spends her time “rescuing” pitt bulls at the animal shelter, and being there for her single mom friends as they go to AA meetings… What are the odds she slutted it up at an early age, and is now burnt out at age 30? Or is she just a shy girl who has been avoiding the sex scene? My first guess was she is a dyke, but her body language says otherwise.

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  136. Ugh, men kissing. Vomit.

    They may as well drop their drawers and bend over.

    Sheesh, if herbs weren’t a big enough turnoff, now they are going all out submissive.

    Please, tell me we have hit rock bottom.

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  137. @Beta States of America

    “Karl Marx an SWPL? I thought he was a Satan worshiper, which is why he let his hair go like that. Apparently his grave is still a major place for Satanic rituals. Both his daughters committed suicide.

    Lenin and the Bolsheviks were given 20 million US dollars by a banker in New York to launch their revolution when the Tsar was at his weakest. The banker was a member of Skull & Bones (of Bush family fame) which started in Germany after the Illuminati were banned and took up a home at Yale University and (for their once per year meeting) Deer Island in the St. Lawrence River.”

    “Apparently his grave is still a major place”

    See: ZARDOZ

    I didn’t get the HEAD until I saw a picture of Marx’s gravestone.

    Besides it’s got a young Charlotte Rampling in it, what’s not to like.

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  138. on November 25, 2010 at 4:20 am Beta States of America

    @Phaggot

    Another good link for that would be

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/04/reiser-defense/

    Radical feminists (and the elites who control the US media) will ignore the 1000 murders per year that often socially inept betas and gammas conduct on often bitchy, money grubbing wives (999.75 of which were not met on “foreign bride” websites).

    Then they will highlight the 0.25 murders per year that occur between a nerd (gamma) who married a dishonest Russian, Kyrgyzian or Peruvian green card hunter.

    They do this to get laws like IMBRA passed. IMBRA openly states that men who marry foreign women are more likely to be dangerous than other men and are thus in need of background checks BEFORE they are allowed to communicate with foreign women online via a dating site that contains less than 50% American women on it (IMBRA is really about protectionism – rare murders like this are just an excuse to try to uphold the law).

    The stats prove that gammas mostly murder local American women. Sometimes one gets overseas, marries a foreigner and, when she divorces him after getting citizenship, she meets a horrible fate when he overreacts to the rejection.

    The feminists and the CFR-media elites will want to give the impression that mainly socially inept US males will marry these foreign women and that all foreign women who marry westerners are green card hunters (propaganda propagated in the above post).

    In reality, there are foreign scammers preying on western gammas and these scammers sometimes get killed for their efforts. This doesn’t change the fact that marriages that occur between Russians and Americans, for instance, are more likely to survive than not and that the American male is as likely to be alpha as gamma (both of these kinds travel overseas while the betas pretend they don’t have to).

    A real faggot would be Wired’s David Kravets who insisted in the above story that the murdered green card hunter was found in a “Mail Order Bride Catalogue” which is a loaded radical feminist term when used by a “male” who might think himself above meeting a gorgeous woman in St. Petersburg.

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  139. on November 25, 2010 at 4:33 am Beta States of America

    Believe me, American alphas are roaming Russia and Asia right now and getting much higher quality women then the great looking ones they get back in the States.

    I see them in action (not touting myself here).

    Both the Wikipedia article and the Wired article were written by White Knighters seeking to make local American women admire them (somehow).

    If any of you guys have time on your hands and are accepted as Wikipedia editors (men needs some MRA editors on Wikipedia to watch for anti-male phraseology) then please go to Phaggot’s link to Wikipedia and edit that Reiser met his wife Nina via a “Russian dating agency” instead of a “Mail Order Bride Catalogue”.

    Remark that the change is necessary because the latter term is loaded to the hilt with POV (radical feminist POV).

    Unlike the Wired article which is written by a faggot who thinks himself above meeting women in Russia, the Wikipedia article doesn’t mention that the defense attorney in the murder trial did point out that Nina was a money grubbing whore who could not have seriously married Reiser out of love or physical attraction.

    The rules of Wikipedia will allow someone to add the defense attorney’s remarks on that.

    Feminists would say that she was bought out of that catalogue (which is what both biased articles implied) and that she needed to “find a better life” and innocently married whom she thought was a “good man” who could “save her”. That is bullshit: St. Petersburg is a great place for women to marry a local Russian man and live happily.

    Sadly, Wikipedia is so filled with feminist lefty boys that it is often better to leave well enough alone because a radical feminist boy could actually add a phrase in the Reiser article saying that this murder case somehow “justifies laws like IMBRA that background check men before they meet these women”.

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  140. on November 25, 2010 at 4:44 am Beta States of America

    I’ve seen American alphas in Russia doing much better than me…ferreting out the freshest and nicest young women and making them fall in love and lust within 24 hours.

    They make me envious and I can clearly see why US feminists and beta males would consider them a threat. If I’m envious and feel like saying “don’t go to bed with him, he bedded three others just in the past week”, imagine what less fair people would think and do.

    That’s why the fems and White Knighters are so determined to use rare examples of gammas who murderously snapped after being scammed as anecdotal evidence of a “problem” of “socially inept males preying on innocent foreigners in search of a better life”.

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  141. Jerry,
    If any of you guys have time on your hands and are accepted as Wikipedia editors …

    Why don’t you just go edit it yourself?
    You can do that, you know.

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  142. on November 25, 2010 at 8:37 am Beta States of America

    Wacko feminists (mostly left wing teenage boys) tend to immediately redact (edit back) when just anyone tries to change feminist phraseology on Wikipedia.

    However, partly thanks to Roissy’s blog, there is a growing movement of young men with time on their hands, who have the (teenage) gravitas required for edits to stick at that site and who’ve made inroads in getting Wikipedia articles edited to a modicum of fairness toward males.

    More are needed. All the readers of this blog could assist in making edits on Wikipedia whenever they see bullshit (such as whenever child support laws are made to sound like they are mean to just support children).

    Another great new development is that the http://www.Reddit.com site (similar to Digg) now has a very active “MensRights” section.

    I was very surprised to see that.

    The Chateau and other PUA/MRA bloggers could get great new post topics there.

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  143. This is crap.In Serbia guys kiss each other all the time and we are most homophobic nation in the world

    and BTW our girls are very feminine

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  144. on November 25, 2010 at 4:46 pm DevastatinglyFemale

    ^ yeah…if being feminine is acting like men most of the time, cursing, playing tough and walking around with those big noses 🙄

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  145. This is too hard, the alpha stuff, etc., it’s easier to become gay…

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  146. @depressedboy

    At least learn inner game and find a hobby/career/mission and then you never know…

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  147. God fvcking damn, that statistical research about men kissing each other made my throw up on my keyboard. That gay shit is hideously sick. The hell happened to fist bumps???

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  148. on November 26, 2010 at 9:12 am Beta States of America

    Meanwhile that escort that stole Charlie Sheen’s watch is reaching out to MyGirlFund where White Knighters are waiting to help her with her legal bills as Sheen tries to sue her for blackmail and theft.

    These White Knighters may get nothing more than a few signed photos of this wench.

    Apparently the men of the US have gotten so deeply beta that many of them will help any reasonably attractive woman attack any man no matter how much in the wrong the woman is.

    I can just see a church group paying the legal bills of this thief because Charlie had been “exploiting her for her body” when she was “innocently but desperately trying to make ends meet financially”. That’s what the MyGirlFund is telling its readers.

    There’s more on that TMZ.com site that y’all should be reading because of the daily material on misandry you’ll find there.

    I will note that my browser doesn’t recognize the word misandry and thinks I meant misanthropy.

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  149. Beta, if you’ve got so much to say you should start up a blog.

    I’m fucking serious. You’re half the posts here and then some.

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  150. Referring to the Sweden article above, the Scandinavian Welfare State is state institutionalized cuckoldry. As white Scandinavian woman, you can have sex w/whoever you want and never be called a slut (they don’t use that word the same way we do), get knocked up by the man with aggressive genes that you desire w/o having to care if he will provide, and the state funded by beta-males effectively taxed at 70% of their incomes will provide you with free housing, education, healthcare, and often tax free cash on top of that.

    The Danish Nazi Party (literal translation: Danish People’s Party, but People’s Party means communist in American english and their platform is anything but) formed a coalition government in Denmark and had the “Love Bridge Laws” passed. These laws force Danes who marry non-EU citizens to pay $5000 to the Danish government to get legal residency for their spouses. Hmm, I wonder which Danish gender this hurts more. As a bonus, the head of the Danish Nazis is woman who was formerly a nurse.

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  151. “Women live longer than men because men are biologically expendable.”

    If you arrange a listing of countries, sorted by the gender longevity gap, there is a clear and unmistakable correlation between life-span and affluence. (click on column headings to sort by male or female life expectancy).

    The poorer the country, the less extra life a woman can expect – which suggests that a woman’s age advantage isn’t genetic at all, but purchased.

    In fact, in some of the countries where there is no surplus national wealth to be commandeered and applied to the benefit of the ladies (eg Mozambique), men actually live longer.

    [Editor: Women’s longer lifespans purchased by affluent societies… interesting theory.]

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  152. Kissing straight buddies on the lips has got to be a UK university thing. I’ve never seen it in the US.

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  153. no mongo, life expectancy difference is purely biological and not socially influenced like gender.

    /a concerned feminist.

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  154. Progress IS being made. I have just seen an article on the return of the alpha male in my wife’s Women’s Weekly, the top women’s magazine in Australia. Quite positive too, and very accurate. Even down to how he doesn’t seem to care much about your female presence.

    I think the feminist ice is starting to crack.

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  155. @mongo/ editor

    First, how exactly would an affluent society actually ‘purchase’ longer life exclusively for females?
    Medicare is for both sexes, you realize.

    Second, as I’ve noted elsewhere on this site, in poor/primitive societies women die exponentially more often from childbirth, which on brings down the mean life expectancy of women compared to men. For those women who do survive through their childbearing years, in these societies as well as affluent ones, women live longer than men into old age.

    @MichaelC – yes, both sexes get better at tool-making skills as they age, and both are valuable for passing on knowledge. Yes, I actually have tried making a spearhead out of flint, starting a fire from scratch, etc, and it is extremely difficult – as are more traditionally feminine skills such as weaving baskets from reeds, butchering animals and making tools from their bones, constructing shelters and sewing clothes, etc. Point being, both sexes are equally valuable for such skilled tasks when elderly.

    @namae – post is a shining example of your intelligence. Only a complete ignoramus would take my words a meaning grandmothers can “breastfeeded”. But did your grandmother never babysit you? Mine did, and so did most other peoples.

    And yes, likewise, if there were 9 men and 1 woman, and a bear ate the woman, then you’d have 9 guys buttfucking each other to satisfy their raging desire for sex and dominance, and no future of the species, ‘among many other contingencies’.
    Great point, genius.

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  156. @ J.S. Mills

    Okay, but do you spit or swallow?

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  157. Tinderbox – the “Okay” there shows even the least bit of interest or acceptance with what she said. In order to achieve the full aloofnessalphaness effect you should show complete disinterest. a tone-less, punctuation-less “So do you spit or swallow” would suffice.

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  158. “First, how exactly would an affluent society actually ‘purchase’ longer life exclusively for females?
    Medicare is for both sexes, you realize.”

    -J.S. Mills

    The most obvious way female longevity is purchased is the dedication of surplus wealth to improving female health – you acknowledge this already when you observe how better child-birthing knowledge and technology had an immediate effect on average female age at death. National research into medical problems is heavily lop-sided in favor of women.

    A less obvious but much more material way in which female life expectancy is purchased is by sheltering women from the more hazardous perils of daily life: less exposure to physical duress, less material deprivation, less stress. All of this favoritism is only possible when surplus wealth is both available and easily extricated from the control of others (via taxes and comprehensive records).

    Take away the wealth, and the mechanisms for central control of it, and what do you know? Men and women have the same life span.

    Also interesting is that the only two countries where men live beyond 80 years on average are Andorra and Macau – two tiny little places as far apart ethnically, geographically and climatically as it gets. What both these places have in common is 1) they are both affluent 2) they are low tax environments 3) they are so small that one couldn’t quietly ignore men and favor women without the effect of it being noticed in every family.

    http://www.vcclan.org/forums/view.php?pg=someni_longevity_gaps

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  159. ” post is a shining example of your intelligence.”

    stop, you embarrass me.

    ” Only a complete ignoramus would take my words a meaning grandmothers can “breastfeeded”. But did your grandmother never babysit you? Mine did, and so did most other peoples.”

    as a matter of fact, yes she did, but how in a gender-neutral world of ours, you can somehow think that grandfathers can’t babysit? let’s say a bear comes upon the baby and the babysitter….

    “And yes, likewise, if there were 9 men and 1 woman, and a bear ate the woman,”

    who faces the bear in a clan, you nincompoop?

    ” then you’d have 9 guys buttfucking each other to satisfy their raging desire for sex and dominance, and no future of the species, ‘among many other contingencies’.
    Great point, genius”

    or they go out and kill the 1 man of your clan, like men do. The couplings are perfect. I win.

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  160. kinda funny.

    @mongo- you purposefully misread me. Affluent societies are able to put wealth towards improving the health of both sexes- and because the majority of female deaths during childbirth require relatively little extra wealth to prevent and are usually not very medically difficult to treat, any increase in a society’s wealth has a quick and immediate effect on female childbirthing mortality.

    This does not require in any way dedicating an outsize proportion of societal wealth towards this purpose at the expense of male health. Also, more national research dollars are given towards womens’ health issues largely because womens’ bodies are more complex, and much of early male mortality is due to known and preventable causes, such as accidents stemming from reckless behavior, heart disease caused by poor diet, etc.

    As for the effects of stress on female longevity – the highest levels of stress on average are among single mothers (another topic for another time), NOT among men.

    @namae – i was postulating an insulated world where the groups couldn’t combine. don’t want to get to far into the statistics of people eaten by bears, but do like your use of the term ‘nincompoop’.

    @tinderbox – swallow. In fact, I’ll give you an undeserved freebie – semen is full of seratonin, potassium, and other beneficial hormones and elements (presuming of course disease-free). Very useful info if trying to convince a girl to give you head. Besides, you taste it less if you just swallow it right away.

    @Deutsch – i disagree, you kraut – his response seemed sufficiently aloof and disinterested as is, the ‘okay’ acted as more of a segueway

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  161. ” and much of early male mortality is due to known and preventable causes, such as accidents stemming from reckless behavior, heart disease caused by poor diet, etc.”

    http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/22/life-expectancy-data/

    http://www.healthywomen.org/content/blog-entry/heart-disease-awareness-month

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  162. never said that women don’t also die of heart disease, but that a greater proportion of men do. also, men above age 55 are also more prone to die of reckless behavior than women.

    match point, me (hahaha)

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  163. Yeah, but,

    On Friday, February 5, 2010, Americans nationwide will wear red to show their support for women’s heart disease awareness on National Wear Red Day®.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Wear_Red_Day

    Though one can make a case that because wear pink hogs all the limelight, you need this for women.

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  164. and what reckless behavior do 55 yr old men engage in?

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  165. motorcycling/driving too fast in sports cars in efforts to impress younger women; household chores that require a level of dexterity/balance they no longer possess; thinking one knows more than they do about electricians’ work; hunting (see: Cheney, Dick); hiking/outdoor expeditions (including gathering and chopping of firewood); etc, etc, etc.

    BTW, I detest all these ‘wear pink in a awareness of breast cancer’ month, ‘wear red in awareness of blah blah blah’.
    what the hell is ‘awareness’ supposed to do?
    make anyone, male or female, actually put down the double whopper and move their asses?

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  166. […] trick that photographers use to emphasize largeness and dominance. Plus, it’s been shown that women like looking up at men. Extend the honor to your junk! Lighting is important, too. When lit from below, the penis will […]

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  167. It was just crossing my mind today how sickeningly hypocritical the fat-acceptance people are.

    Fat people want thin people to think fat is beautiful, because fat people think fat is ugly and they want thin people to date them.

    Pretty much comes down to that.

    Lose weight and you notice three things that unfold with metric accuracy:

    1) It is a meaningful challenge to master yourself into an attractive figure, though by no means is it impossible – it is a character challenge that a person with character and determination is capable of achieving

    2) As a line drawn on a graph, with every lose of 2-3 pounds, you get incrementally more looks from the opposite sex

    3) -1- makes you feel like you paid your dues to earn -2-

    So here’s the thing: who do the “fat is beautiful” people want to date? Who do they wish found them attractive?

    Answer: thin people.

    Fat people, want thin people, who work hard at being thin because they care about their bodies and actually have some sensitivity for the sensibilities of what other people think is attractive (i.e.: they pass the VERY FIRST TEST of not being a selfish prick) … fat people want THIN people to think they are attractive!

    It’s not like they want to date each other, if they did, why would you even need a “fat is beautiful” movement?

    So fat people, in particular the “fat is beautiful” people, not only fail the very first test of not being a selfish prick, but they morally pig-ify themselves (yes, pun intended) by demanding of thin givers what they themselves are unwilling to give on the very face.

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  168. “As for the effects of stress on female longevity – the highest levels of stress on average are among single mothers (another topic for another time), NOT among men.”
    -J.S.Mills

    I suspect you can knock out reasons to blame men for everything and keep the victim focus on women faster than a computer can generate random numbers.

    The ultimate measure of advantage is life expectancy – all else is just noise – and usually the noise is designed to preserve favorable life expectancy.

    What country you live in has a far greater effect on your life expectancy than any other factor. The wealthier a country, the longer you can expect to live – whether you are a man or a woman. But you can expect to live even longer if you are a woman.

    So having established that wealth fuels life expectancy, it’s not unreasonable to suppose that if women live longer than men, then they probably live in greater wealth. And what do you know – by all other measures of how much wealth accrues to women, that’s exactly the case.

    If women had a longer-life gene, why doesn’t it work in Mozambique, Lesotho and several other African countries? Why does its life-giving effect suddenly change dramatically by doing something as insignificant as crossing every national border on the planet?

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