Another Convert

An American friend, let’s call him Phil, has discovered the bounties of East European girls.  After a lifetime of drama dating compatriots of every known taxonomy, he recently hooked up with a cute Polish chick and, in his words, “there’s no going back”.  We had an IM exchange where he explained his revelation:

Phil: she gave me a BJ in the park
Phil: behind a tree
Me: how long have you been going out?
Phil: a few weeks
Phil: she is completely sexually uninhibited
Phil: have you ever had a girl lick your asshole?
Me: she’s already doing that for you?
Phil: well, not quite. i didn’t want her to. so she licked the taint.
Me: TMI
Phil: that’s not the half of it
Me: your game must be exceptional
Phil: actually, i used very little game on her
Phil: she said she was going for a walk and i said “why don’t you join me for a walk near my place”.
Me: and two weeks later her tongue was on your taint
Phil: as if it was the natural progression of things
Me: no shit tests?
Phil: not a one. her sincerity actually confused me at first.
Me: how old is she?
Phil: 23 [editor’s note: considerably younger than my friend]
Phil: i told her i was going to tell my friends about her, the sex stuff and everything
Phil: and she said “it’s OK to share our joy with your friends”
Me: wow
Phil: she treats me like a king
Phil: she loves sex
Phil: you should see her smile when she sees me.
Me: is she shorn?
Phil: yep, and she offered to shave mine
Me: i hear wedding bells
Phil: i can’t believe what i’ve been missing all these years
Phil: no more yentas for me

And so another red-blooded American male urbanite has succumbed to the sweet nectar of foreigner love, forever turned off to the idea of dating the homegrown talent.  Phil said that if, in the future, he found himself in the company of an American girl his expectations for her would be much higher.  Thanks to the eye-opening experience with this girl, there are certain behaviors and outlooks on life he just won’t abide anymore.

I asked him, as good as things were with his Polish girl, if he thought there was a catch.  His answer?  “When is there not a catch?  At least with her, getting caught doesn’t feel like a power struggle.”

Phil is now a big proponent of importing into the US millions of young women from former Communist countries.





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  1. “When is there not a catch?”

    At least your friend still has the wherewithal to realize this fact of life. Getting a NSA blow job in the park would blind most guys.

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  2. Me: is she shorn?
    Phil: yep

    Bleccch. That’s all I had to read. Shaved women are an abomination.

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  3. on August 7, 2007 at 1:51 pm de tocqueville

    All women (and men) should shave. Sex appeal aside, it’s plain good hygiene. Let the Japanese soldiers out of the bushes and let them know that the war is over.

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  4. A nice, thick, luxuriant bush is a thing of beauty. And there’s definitely something pedophilic about a hairless adult woman.

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  5. I love when my women have HUGE bushes. I’m talking bushes so big you to blow dry it and then afro pick it out. Some times they just walk around with the fist part of the afro pick sticking out of their skinny jeans. If she’s naked and doesn’t look like she has buckwheat in a cross leg scissors lock, I can’t fuck with her…. Nah mean?

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  6. There is certainly a big “what happens in America stays in America” factor behind this girl’s wildness. The Spring Break effect, you could say. While EE women are great catches (I’m married to one), a liaison in the park doesn’t say much about women or their culture in general.

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  7. vk – dude, thanks for the visuals!

    pa – she’s been in the US for years. maybe the IM wasn’t clear, but the BJ happened after a few dates. it’s more than a liaison. they’re dating.

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  8. My bad. I skimmed through the IM exchanges.

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  9. Peter, are you for real?
    LOL @ VK’s comment…good lord

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  10. Why limit the bush to the crotch? Bring on the hairy nipples and the happy trail. Wait, who said that?

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  11. Americans are just unable to compete on the global stage.

    Our health care sucks compared to any other industrialized nation

    Our cars suck compared to Toyota

    Our economy is bleeding money to emerging markets

    Our students get destroyed in math and science.

    Our women can’t hold a candle to anywhere else in the world.

    Yet, somehow we’re the greatest nation on Earth?

    All we’ve got left are slowly eroding civil liberties.
    If the SBC have their way maybe soon mini skirts will be illegal like Irina wants.

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  12. on August 7, 2007 at 4:52 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    “If the SBC have their way maybe soon mini skirts will be illegal like Irina wants.”

    Who is the SBC — Southern Baptist Conference? And when they did they want to outlaw minis?

    As for the civil liberties, what the gov’t has not taken away, coroporations have.

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  13. Hilary Clinton is Southern Baptist.

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  14. I’m somewhere in the middle on the bush debate. Give me the 1″ wide mohawk. Nice grooming is a plus, a huge bush is a serious turnoff, and the shave cooch leaves nothing to the imagination.

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  15. First, let me preface this by saying I love Nullpointer. He reminds me of why I fall asleep in lectures.

    Second, if women only knew the “REAL” power of pussy there would be less BS and more sex.

    There’d also be more diamonds on the fingers but who cares because the guys wouldn’t notice since they’d either be digging into his back, bunched into the sheets, or at the jewelers (sp?) being cleaned.

    At least when I imagine it.

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  16. Unkempt bush has no business in a civilized society with widely available grooming products. I get enough fiber in my diet.

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  17. DF,

    You have no clue what real pleasure is, what Heaven is, until you’ve muff dived and felt the pubic hair of an unkempt woman, tickling the back of your nostrils. Now that’s some deep shit right there. Hold that thought son.

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  18. VK,

    Ha! I just spit out my water!

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  19. Now, I understand why VK’s site is filtered by my company >_<

    Nice job. You managed to get your blog censored by the government.

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  20. as a longtime pubic servant, trim that snatch thatch. i don’t want to put on my pith helmet and machete and start wacking away at the jungle like indiana jones searching for the holy love bud. i’m too pampered for that.

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  21. I like natural but scissor-trimmed bush, shaved at the bikini line. Bald pussy is disgusting in a pedophile sort of way. Mohawks or stripes, esp. real thin ones, are ridiculous.

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  22. nullp0inter–
    How many years have you lived outside the USA? I’m gonna say not too many if you need to ask why the USA kicks ass inspite of your list. That list sounds like the shit I hear people say (yeah I live outside the USA) to try and feel better about themselves.

    Beware of foreign women and their seemingly limitless appetite for sex. It’s just a hook. When you come to in 5 years you’ll be sitting across the table from a 210lb babushka and her entire extended family feasting on borsch in your kitchen. That cute accent wont seem so cute when it’s nagging you 24/7.

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  23. I think you guys are totally misinterpreting the conversation. “Is she shorn?” when discussing a eurobabe is very clearly referring to the armpits. Tell your buddy not to let her shave his pits, it’ll itch like hell..

    That being said, “it’s OK to share our joy with your friends” clearly translates to “Make me into a set of Chinese finger cuffs.”

    Perhaps I’m missing the draw of having my butthole tongued by a Slav. Nevertheless, I’m with you on the need to import massive quantities of foreign females. Just as long as they can cook a dinner without a massive dose of pickled vegetables.

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  24. I grew up in South America. See Roosh’s last post, for my short explanation of what to do in Chile, Colombia, and Peru.

    I’ve been all over (Western Europe). The only places I haven’t been is Andorra and Denmark

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  25. Hey Roissy, the next cute Russian chick that hits on me in Black Cat is MINE ALL MINE, you hear me???

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  26. Dear brainless,

    Gee. What happens when you take a little american girl

    add a cup of culture of luxury and comfort, with little worry or responsibilty

    add a cup of obesity-friendly environment and diet

    add two cups of perfect-10-model saturated media

    two tablespoons of young men grown on internet porn

    add a dash of narcissism

    and a pinch of spoiled princess syndrome

    and finally, let this mix sit in a room full of men who dissect women’s appearances as a sport.

    …what does that recipe make?

    oh an insecure woman with body issues who cannot be uninhibited in bed.

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  27. Is there such a thing as too soon for a girl to start the ass licking and park blowjobs? Roissy makes it sound like it should take a few weeks to work up to…and I guess I could see how it would freak a guy out, like it’s standard issue. I’m kind of worried all of the sudden..thoughts?

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  28. irina:
    What happens when you take a little american girl

    child porn.

    add a cup of culture of luxury and comfort

    we’d all rather be poolside.

    add a cup of obesity-friendly environment and diet

    her inability or unwillingness to adjust her eating and exercise habits is not my moral crisis.
    or:
    change happens.
    or:
    mirrors are a girl’s best friend.

    add two cups of perfect-10-model saturated media

    envy is 100% bad box office.

    two tablespoons of young men grown on internet porn

    so you agree with fundamentalist christians and muslims on this point.

    add a dash of narcissism

    this dash contradicts your conclusion.

    and a pinch of spoiled princess syndrome

    as does this pinch.

    and finally, let this mix sit in a room full of men who dissect women’s appearances as a sport.

    do you think fat, ugly, and old women need to hear the buzzsaw of dissection to feel the pain of male indifference?

    …what does that recipe make?

    no one said life was fair.

    oh an insecure woman with body issues who cannot be uninhibited in bed.

    strength of character is a virtue.
    but i know many men can be clods. it is in their interest to make sure the women they love are as comfortable giving their bodies to them as possible. having done that, if she is still sexually repressed he’d be happier leaving for greener pastures.

    lisa:
    Is there such a thing as too soon for a girl to start the ass licking and park blowjobs?

    there is no reason why a great long term relationship can’t start with passionate lovemaking on the first date.
    however, tactically delaying distribution of various sexual pleasures has been known to rope a guy in.

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  29. Saludos a mi compatriota Nullpointer de Chile

    En Chile, en términos generales las mujeres son mucho más atractivas que las obesas norteamericanas y bastante menos putas, but Southamerican women are great at playing games and at deceiving. Otra ventaja es que en Chile la edad de consentimiento sexual es a los catorce años, que para un tipo como Roosh que bordea los treinta no es interesante pero para un universitario si lo puede ser. Son muy ricas las cabras de media en jumper, y si un hombre todavía está en sus early twenties todavía está entre lo socialmente aceptable el hecho de tener una colegiala como polola.

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  30. however, tactically delaying distribution of various sexual pleasures has been known to rope a guy in.

    That doesn’t make sense to me. Wouldn’t most guys move on instead of waiting for sex, or we dealing with men who are unable to attract women on demand?

    En Chile, en términos generales las mujeres son mucho más atractivas que las obesas norteamericanas y bastante menos putas

    Given how so many men complain that women don’t have sex enough, why is there a strain of thinking here that women are whores? If anything, we need to have more women having sex. That alone might create a trickle down effect for some of the lowly men. Even if it doesn’t, more sex is better because sex is a highly enjoyable activity for most people.

    Plus, some chubby girls are hot. I’ve never been fond of the athletic, B-C cup look that some girls have, and European women have that natural beauty-supermodel look which isn’t attractive to me.

    BTW, Gannon, fucking a 14 year old is rather shitty. Most have pathetically small breasts that generally don’t grow to full size until they’re 18, and in poor countries in Latin America, the women are leeching off your income because they can’t find good middle class jobs.

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  31. “BTW, Gannon, fucking a 14 year old is rather shitty. Most have pathetically small breasts that generally don’t grow to full size until they’re 18, and in poor countries in Latin America, the women are leeching off your income because they can’t find good middle class jobs.”

    I have never fucked a 14 year old, your Spanish is lacking.
    what the post suggested is that if you are in your late teens early twenties you won’t end up in jail for having a a serious loving relationship with a teen girlfriend, specially if you intend to marry her. In fact, having a girlfriend in her middteens is socially still somewhat accepted throughout southamerica for a young man below thirty. But you don’t play games on her, but are in a committed relationship. I wouldn’t recommend Chile as a fucktour anyway. Chilean women are conservative and usually only hand out after a couple of monhs, but of course in Santiago’s pubs (Bellavista) some of the local easy girls, whores (real whores) and some fat ugly American tourists can be had. Bondforming years for a future wife are very early, around 14-22 years old. After that, the bond between your wife and you will be considerably weaker.

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  32. Wouldn’t most guys move on instead of waiting for sex, or we dealing with men who are unable to attract women on demand?

    it’s the whole madonna/whore dichotomy. many would like to believe it is culturally modulated, but smarter people surmise it is biologically ingrained in the male sexual psyche to shun sluts for long term commitment because the quicker a woman gives it up the more likely she is to stray in the future, being unable to restrain her libidinous urges.

    so men push for fast sex but reward more chaste women with commitment and resources.
    it’s a double standard, i know, but hey, life ain’t fair.

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  33. How gullible is your friend?

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  34. Roissy I do see your point and I guess already employ “tactical distribution” without really knowing what it is or why it works…which is why I like reading you guys, you put things into words well.

    For instance Alexander, a girl can wait until you’re both fully spent for the evening, then say hey, you know what I’ve always wanted to do…or something like that. It’s great because even though no one has the energy to do it right then just talking about it will probably lead to another lazy cuddly round, and the anticipation of what happens in the future is so delicious.

    You know what though, Phil needs to step up. It sounds like he isn’t recieving all this great sex with the enthusiasm and whole-heartedness it deserves. He turns down her offer for a salad toss and then brags about it to his buddies. WTF? If he declines to participate then he didn’t really experience anything other than the novel *thought* of a girl’s openness. And if he didn’t experience anything he didn’t learn anything, he just has a bit of bragging rights but bragging about what, the fact that this 23 year old is too kinky for him thus far. I would tell him DO WHAT SHE WANTS or else he will look back on this with regret at opportunities wasted. Also reciprocate.

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  35. Ireland and the UK are ground zero at the moment for hot, young East European girls. In 2004 10 East Euro countries joined the EU, and the only countries to allow free movement of labour were the British Isles. So many have arrived since that wonderful day that it’s not even a challenge anymore. (The British govnt predicted 13,000 would arrive – well over half a million did in under 2 years)

    And the beauty of it is – East European guys are not attracted to British/Irish girls, who are pretty ugly vis-a-vis what they’re used to, but of course East European girls are attracted to British/Irish guys, as we can play the status card with relish, so our pool of available women has increased exponentially. It’s fucking brilliant.

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  36. unfortunately, the 50,000 per anum limited visa lottery really put a crimp on the numbers of EE women to the US, as the lottery is required to draw from “underrepresented” countries as i understand it. also, big countries like russia that have sent over many more than 50,000 lovelies to the US over the years are currently excluded from the lottery.

    btw, i don’t know why you think irish girls are ugly (british, maybe) because the ones i know are quite ravishing. is there a beauty differential between black irish and the rest?

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  37. Ick. Not what first comes to mind when I think “alluring foreign babe.” More like “Anacostia streetwalker.” There’s just something suspicious about a girl who licks your taint, especially so soon.

    is there a beauty differential between black irish and the rest?

    We may be biased in the US b/c dark Irish types usually have something more than just Irish (although I think the dark Celtics from the UK are still pretty good-looking).

    E.g.: Sherilyn Fenn is only 1/4 Irish (plus French, Italian, Hungarian).

    Jennifer Connelly is 1/2 Ashkenazi Jewish and 1/4 Norwegian.

    Lindsay Lohan is 1/2 Italian. (oh don’t groan, she wasn’t that bad)

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  38. I have no idea whence the ridiculous assumption that Irish girls are attractive emerged, but it is completely false. They are no better looking than the Brits, seriously. Now there is a bit of variance, most pronounced in Dublin between the affluent, attractive ‘Southsiders’ and the ugly, underclass ‘Northsiders’ – they look like slightly different races. But on average no, Irish girls are not attractive..

    Agnostic is correct that Irish girls with continental admixture, particularly South European, can be very attractive. Irish girls can have very alluring eyes, and freckles, in small doses, can be quite attractive, especially combined with darkish features. Dark Irish girls can have world beating looks, look at Andrea Corr and try not to fall in love, but they are not the norm.

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  39. Irish women are not good looking, although many Americans seem to think so for some reason. They are similar to the British, and in many cases are uglier. There is some variance in Dublin between attractive affluent southsiders and ugly underclass northsiders, who look like different races, but that’s it.

    Agnostic is correct about admixture though. black irish are attractive. not many though

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  40. andrea corr looks spanish.

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  41. My boyfriend’s ex is Russian. He randomly said once that I’m his best lay (I never asked, mind you). So, not all Eastern European girls can be that good. Actually… I think I’ve done “more” with him than any other girl has. Which is weird considering we haven’t done that much yet…

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  42. on October 12, 2007 at 5:23 pm Gunslingergregi

    Until she lets you tattoo your name in her arm with a sewing needle and she takes it. You just never know.

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  43. If a girl doesn’t at least speak broken English there is no point in dating her. I waited too long in life to finally discover the joys of dating Mexican and Colombian women in their country. When you’re focussed on finding the thcikest dark bush you can find language barriers are secondary.

    Why do so many men bang their heads against the wall for so many years trying to date American urban chicks who do nothing but squeeze the life out of your wallet and ego?

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  44. Im 49 ; this polish girl 29 , blonde, Blue Eyes…worked for me. I fancied here but she had no idea.

    She left the business and I met bumped into her in a club a week later.

    I ran game on her ..but she was already attracted..

    I knew she was hooked…but I played it cool ..ran game….

    Within 2 hours we were snogging on the dance floor, I had her in a corner and had my hands all over her and under her dress..

    I told her nothing was going to happen that night..and that fried here circuits – she told me this later.. and her attraction went through the roof. She later told me that men never say that yo her…she says that to men…

    Anyway we hooked up a week later and had a 6 mont relationship….

    I can vouch for everything the poster said…. the sex was awesome..I just could not believe my luck…

    I eventually lost her because I was too aloof…because she knew I was married ( she knew this from get go ) .. and she may have felt she was out of my league.. I am nothing special but women always think I have lots of women after me…

    She set the bar so high for me that now it is a problem for me

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