Sweden Does One Thing Right

Commenter Stu wrote this in the comments:

As for you guys thinking about kids, do not do it.  I speak from experience here.  I love my kid but fuck man, it’s such a drag being a parent.  Especially since I got divorced (and having a kid fucking accelerated that process) and have joint custody so I have to be daddy every other week.

The reason why I do it though is two fold: I don’t want my daughter to be brain washed by her psychotic mother and it means I don’t pay a single penny in child support.  I’m glad I got divorced in Sweden – no alimony ever and no child support if you have joint custody.

If this is true that in Sweden joint custody means no child support or alimony is extorted from the man, then their divorce laws are more just than the divorce laws in the US. All that’s left to answer is how often Swedish judges award joint custody.

Yet one more reason to ditch American women for a foreign lover.

I also agree with Stu’s advice to avoid having kids. Every guy I know who has kids has no social life and, judging by their griping, a nearly nonexistent sex life. I say get your kid fix from nieces and nephews. You visit a few hours each month and play airplane with them, then you leave. All of the fun, none of the fun-killing responsibility.





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  1. on July 16, 2009 at 5:41 pm WHITE SURVIVAL

    Roissy: “I also agree with Stu’s advice to avoid having kids. Every guy I know who has kids has no social life and, judging by their griping, a nearly nonexistent sex life.”

    Fuck that Roissy…what the hell is wrong with you? If lots of Whites started following your advice we’d find ourselves even more swamped by Browns, Blacks, and Yellows, and Whites would eventually go extinct or become so mixed and submerged in the non-White mass that they would basically disappear.

    Whites are already the minority race in the world (no more than about 10-15% of the world’s population), so why would we want to dwindle even more?

    You and other superficial, non-forward-looking urban Whites want to avoid having kids and continuing the White race (nature’s highest creation) just so you can continue to live pointlessly hedonistic lives of incessant clubbing, drinking, and fucking? FUCK THAT.

    [editor: sounds pretty good to me.]

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  2. “I say get your kid fix from nieces and nephews.”

    Excellent advice.

    Same thing with Boats.

    Get your Yacht fix from a mulit-millionaire buddy.

    – MPM

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  3. “just so you can continue to live pointlessly hedonistic lives of incessant clubbing, drinking, and fucking?”

    Sounds good to me.

    Don’t forget:

    smoking
    getting fitted for custom suits
    chilling at the horse races
    kicking back ringside
    Spending Feb in South Beach
    working on your kung fu

    and

    swooping fly girls.

    Wait, we already said that one.

    – MPM

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  4. “I say get your kid fix from nieces and nephews.”

    Mr. David Alexander III is on line one.

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  5. on July 16, 2009 at 5:51 pm russell rodriguez

    “Fuck that Roissy…what the hell is wrong with you? If lots of Whites started following your advice we’d find ourselves even more swamped by Browns, Blacks, and Yellows, and Whites would eventually go extinct or become so mixed and submerged in the non-White mass that they would basically disappear.

    Whites are already the minority race in the world (no more than about 10-15% of the world’s population), so why would we want to dwindle even more?

    You and other superficial, non-forward-looking urban Whites want to avoid having kids and continuing the White race (nature’s highest creation) just so you can continue to live pointlessly hedonistic lives of incessant clubbing, drinking, and fucking? FUCK THAT.”

    god i have been seeing more racist on thos blog lately than girl meeting tips

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  6. @HIPOTS “I say get your kid fix from nieces and nephews.”

    You have to do that because herpes left you infertile.

    [editor: dude, i’ve relegated you to the spam chamber cuz your comments have gotten increasingly banal lately. if you’re gonna hate, put some oomph into it. otherwise you’re just blocking the view of superior commenters. ps rainman!]

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  7. Wait, I though SWPLs are always saying that ‘Scandinavia is better than America for the following 250 reasons, and we should copy them’.

    This is an EXCELLENT counterpoint to that discussion, challenging a chick to extend her appreciation for all things Nordic to divorce laws.

    It can even be worked into Game as a neg and qualifying routine for a chick.

    Useful, useful information.

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  8. @Tood:

    If a girl disagrees with this sort of divorce settlement, she’s a selfish gold digger.

    Fact.

    It’s 100% fair.

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  9. Roissy

    Every guy I know who has kids has no social life and, judging by their griping, a nearly nonexistent sex life.

    You got that one right. But it starts getting better when they get to school age.

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  10. If a girl disagrees with this sort of divorce settlement, she’s a selfish gold digger.

    Fact.

    It’s 100% fair.

    YES. But the US women have been trained to expect more, and too many Beta males enable this, excuse this, or are afraid to confront this.

    But the fact that an admired Nordic country does this, is a superb club to beat down feminists with. I think France also has better divorce laws than the US…

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  11. So now the definition of “alpha male” involves being a genetic dead end?

    My head is spinning. I thought the point of attracting lots of young fertile women was breeding lots of fit sons and daughters.

    [editor: no, the point of attracting lots of young fertile women is to enjoy fucking them.]

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  12. roissy:

    If this is true that in Sweden joint custody means no child support or alimony is extorted from the man, then their divorce laws are more just than the divorce laws in the US. All that’s left to answer is how often Swedish judges award joint custody.

    From what I’ve read, joint custody is normally awarded in Sweden, and they don’t practice U.S.-style punitive alimony and child support either. However, there are two huge differences between Sweden and the U.S. in this regard.

    First, Sweden has a far more extensive welfare state, which greatly decreases the legal and political pressure by women to demand money from their exes. This of course means that the burden is shifted to the taxpayers in general.

    Second, in a small, homogeneous, and monocultural society such as Sweden — which also doesn’t have a ridiculous litigation culture and a depraved predatory class of lawyer parasites, certainly nowhere comparable to the Anglo-Saxon countries — conflicts between people in general, and divorces in particular, are much more often resolved by informal customary agreements without the need for bitter court battles. Also, Swedes are apt to consider divorce as a normal eventual outcome of marriage, not as a failure that invites blaming and confrontation. (If it sounds dehumanized, well, that’s because it is.)

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  13. I also agree with Stu’s advice to avoid having kids.

    I dont agree with this. A man should have kids, the only problem to me is when exactly? (not young of course but how old) Also it has to be with a hot ass dime piece, who fits who you want as a mate and has the least amount of red flags.

    Your real sole mission as part of the human race is to procreate and thats all.

    [editor: there is no mission. only urges and things we do in service to those urges.]

    The universe doesn’t give a flying fuck whether your living the ecstasy that comes with a hendonistic lifestyle or the despair it comes to live in a depressive state.

    [the universe doesn’t give a flying fuck if we procreate, either.]

    Life Maxim: Its fuck, reproduce, and die..

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  14. “editor: no, the point of attracting lots of young fertile women is to enjoy fucking them.”

    It’s also enjoyable to masturbate while you think about those same girls. In one’s imagination, those girls are completely submissive and they don’t flake on dates at the last minute.

    There’s also much less chance of getting herpes.

    From an evolutionary point of view, what Roissy does is equivalent to masturbation. Except that it carries a serious risk of herpes.

    [editor: keith, i’ve found your perfect match. two gay lovers, firmly affixed at the anus!]

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  15. But if the alphas stop breeding entirely, the world will be overrun with genetically inferior spawn and the last shred of civilization will go down the crapper. Although for a nihilist like you, that may not matter…?

    [editor: you don’t have to be a nihilist for your concerns to not matter. nihilists and theists are going to the same infinite void.]

    “Don’t marry” makes good sense from the financial angle for men, but “don’t breed at all”?

    Scary.

    [the truth underneath it all is scary.]

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  16. on July 16, 2009 at 6:32 pm Seeking Alpha

    @ kalli0pe

    Roissy is like an open borders person…

    Happy to sacrifice our culture and civilization for personal convenience.

    [editor: so you agree that open borders sacrifices our culture and civilization? good to see you coming around.]

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  17. My divorced parents (broken home alert!) had joint custody and no child support.

    I have two divorced girlfriends with children, joint custody, no child support.

    As I understand it, these were the default options the court awards unless one party petitions for a different arrangement.

    Perhaps the men who get married and end up getting screwed should either a. chose better quality women to start with or b. not be such unmitigated dicks that the women get vindictive/batshit crazy. (note that option a. should rule out unprovoked initial vindictive/batshit crazyness.)

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  18. on July 16, 2009 at 6:37 pm Seeking Alpha

    [editor: so you agree that open borders sacrifices our culture and civilization? good to see you coming around.]

    I had a feeling I’d get a quick response with that one.

    [editor: i’m more than a feeling.]

    I really have no idea if it does or not…

    … but I’ll happily agree that it does if you admit my point above.

    [i’ll agree that if everyone followed my example the culture would rapidly assume mad max proportions. i won’t agree that the analogy to the open borders traitors is entirely apt. i want the culture to be strong so that i can continue freeriding.]

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  19. on July 16, 2009 at 6:46 pm Cliff Arroyo

    Sweden is no longer homogenous or monocultural. It’s been an immigration destination since at least the 70’s. In some parts of Sweden there are problems where they’ve taken on so many immigrants, especially Iraqis, so quickly that assimilation and adaptation have been difficult.

    But Sweden also has what some sociologists call a feminine culture, which in case of conflict (like divorce) prefers negotiation and compromise (and declaring things a draw) rather than a fight to the death to declare a clear winner and loser as is the preference in the US (a more ‘masculine’ culture).

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  20. Roissy is roissy. He has always been in the moment and about maximal getting laid = alpha, a definition for the purpose of the art of pickup.

    The political and evopsychology content seems mostly a nihilistic observation about what has made women the way they are these days. And how to use it.

    [editor: there is no mission. only urges and things we do in service to those urges.]

    It’s largely not a call to action, although his testosterone-driven rage may make it seem that way. But I don’t think he says anything about what to do, except create more pickup artists.

    That’s how it seems.

    As men without children normally see it (and perhaps men who do but are conditioned not to voice it), this is the hedonism scale from most to least:
    — roissy (no kids, sex from lots of hot women or maybe an LTR)
    — PA (kids, sex from LTR)
    — DA (no kids, no sex)
    — Beta husband (kids, no sex)

    Depending on the man involved and his approach to childcare, he may find having kids much more in line with his life expectation. Passing on your legacy is a human impulse and perhaps an impetus for happiness, and I think this blog of roissy’s is thus his surrogate progeny:
    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-my-hypothetical-future-kids/

    [armchair psychology, ahoy]

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  21. on July 16, 2009 at 6:50 pm Seeking Alpha

    i want the culture to be strong so that i can continue freeriding.

    I want that too. And if we both tell ourselves that’s what we want, we can sleep soundly knowing our intentions are good.

    [editor: i’m just an asshole whose intentions are good. oh lord please don’t let me be misunderstood.]

    I will say that my opinion of the local immigrants has decreased since I moved to Greenwich and now live among them (neighborhood is a mix of blue collar contractors like my neighbors and hispanic immigrants 10 to a house). They sneak down our driveway and steal my cans out of my recycling bin.

    Come on, amigo! Not cool.

    [nothing like a little reality to focus the mind. altho can stealing is kinda tame. one of the girls i’m currently seeing lives in a borderland between ghetto and gentrified swpl-dom. walking her home late at night… lemme tell ya, the CHUDs come out at night, and it’s like a war zone. i usually carry a heavy metal pipe with me to ward off anyone thinking of doing something.]

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  22. editor: there is no mission. only urges and things we do in service to those urges.

    Are you saying you don’t have an urge to have a son later on?

    [editor: the force is weak in me….. thank bog!]

    Kids are loud and for the most part an ungrateful bunch i agree on that but the reason being is because they are more attune to their amoral natures without caring if society judges them.

    [it’s not just their ingrate natures. it’s the fact that they kill romance by their very presence. spontaneity is destroyed. freedom is curtailed. fun is shat upon. i’m not seeing an upside.]

    the universe doesn’t give a flying fuck if we procreate, either.
    true, but lets get real roissy. youth doesn’t last forever. nothing does. when you get old to the point where your every move is a overwhelming task what then?

    [heroin and hookers. also, it’s no guarantee that children will see you through your dotage. how many people actually help their aged parents move around? most of them visit the home for ten minutes then get the hell out before they get too depressed.]

    I advocate a hedonistic lifestyle like you do, but their will come a certain point where you will comtemplate the arc that is your life, and ponder about a kid you could have raised. He or she would have been a walking monument of your life/teachings/maxims/everything. He or she could have spread this knowlegde amongst their peers, and the glorious cycle of circulating the truth would ensue for decades to come.

    [you would only be aware of that glorious cycle of truth circulating while you were alive. after you’re dead, your awareness of any contribution to truth circulating is the same as the guy who contributed nothing. of all the delusions about what exactly our purpose is in life, this intrinsic inability to fully grasp the total and utter finality of death and its eternal dark void of nothingness and all the ramifications following thereof is the pretty lie most dearly held by the greatest number of people. if you are ready to truly think clearly on this matter, you will see that my advocacy for a life of hedonistic pursuit is the only logical answer to the meaning of it all.]

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  23. Many commenters seem surprised and dismayed at Roissy’s “genetic nihilism.”

    In Roissy’s defense, the sun is going to burn out in 5 billion years. So for all the racial survivalist types out there, even if your race, ethny, tribe, clan, family, descendants, genes, etc. makes it that far (which is highly doubtful), they’re all going to burn out with the sun.

    And if you think that it’ll all be ok because they’ll have built space colonies in different solar systems by then, just remember that, again in the unlikely event they make it that far, they’ll be far different from what you see in the mirror. Millions of years ago your ancestors were a bunch of slimy amoebae. What do you think your descendants will be 5 billion years from now?

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  24. on July 16, 2009 at 7:02 pm Cliff Arroyo

    “the point of attracting lots of young fertile women is to enjoy fucking them”

    But you don’t fuck them (which implies interacting with them at some kind of human level) you use their bodies to masturbate with.

    [editor: are you and keith swapping notes in between swapping dribbles of cum?]

    It’s a fine distinction but one worth making. For your purposes they could be Realdolls with some moving parts.

    [have you ever been in love?]

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  25. PATERNAL LINEAGE DYNASTY:
    One can envision a man propagating his DNA in time through strictly a paternal lineage. I.e A “family” where each generation of guy:

    – Gets raised as an alpha badass by his single-parent Dad
    – Makes lots money & lives a hedonistic lifestyle
    – Upon entering certain “breeding years” he commissions a son (or two) via egg donor + surrigate technology.
    – He chooses eggs with superior family longevity, IQ, and achievement characteristics. Also he always uses his y-sperms, ensuring that the offspring is always a son.
    – The cycle repeats with each generation observing this strict paternal code.
    – The wealth stays and accumulates in this dynasty, as there are never any female/nester spendthrifts in any generation.

    Alternate version of this: Use an identical clone of yourself, instead of a donor egg.

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  26. kalli0pe 0pined:

    So now the definition of “alpha male” involves being a genetic dead end?

    I respect my precious spermlets TOOO much
    to permit them the priveledge of paying for the future of ghetto mamas, gangsta rappas
    and roman catholic border jumpers
    all with 21 bambinos.

    let them feed themselves

    go watch Idiocracy

    eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow…

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  27. collegeboy

    Life Maxim: Its fuck, reproduce, and die..

    nope. not life’s – that’s one of Mystery’s

    as re-interpreted, extrapolated and collated thru dozens of others works.

    M is almost 40 and he apparently got snagged by an Brit and…. had a baby girl. So, he is a success.

    No one knows (yet) what potential joy he’ll have surrendering his earnings to a British court for child support.

    [editor: mystery had a kid? cite?]

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  28. on July 16, 2009 at 7:29 pm Seeking Alpha

    altho can stealing is kinda tame. one of the girls i’m currently seeing lives in a borderland between ghetto and gentrified swpl-dom….etc.

    Interestingly, that would suggest that the culture isn’t innately thuggish but that the Hispanic thugs a product of their ghetto environments. None of the teenage hispanic kids in my neighborhood are thuggish. They’re actually mostly skinny skater kids.

    Now I’m no liberal saying ‘they’re a product of their environment’ as if the thugs have no say in their own moral development and they’re innocent victims of the white establishment. They’re not.

    But it is worth noting that the Hispanic kids in the ghetto act differently than the Hispanic kids in the blue collar suburbs.

    [editor: the night creatures i was talking about aren’t hispanic. although their hoods aren’t great shakes either.]

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  29. on July 16, 2009 at 7:30 pm Cliff Arroyo

    C’mon, I’m much more original than herpesboy.

    “have you ever been in love?”

    Have been more than once and currently am and cohabitating happily with no plans or pressure to legalize things. It’s not always easy or calming on the nerves, but it keeps me and my otherwise hermit proclivities engaged in the world and (relatively) sane.

    [editor: that’s good. so then you know what it’s like to have sex with a woman who means more than just a hole to masturbate into.]

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  30. it’s on youtube – he recorded a song for her on guitar and introduced it along the lines as “to my lovely baby daughter”

    it was a private video not meant for the public. i was sent a link from a kiddy pua mm fanfap site / or a competitor looking to bash him during the vh1 pua2 wars

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  31. I’m starting to agree on the breeding issue. I’m a teacher and seeing the way many kids are raised (or rather, NOT raised) it would be cruel to raise nice, smart kids who will eventually have to compete for diminishing resources with all the undisciplined little sociopaths. My feminine biological urges clash with my rational understanding of what a messed-up world my progeny would inherit…leading to a weary resignation to forget it all and join a nunnery. For some girls, “the wall” hits mentally before it does physically.

    Roissy is lucky not to be plagued with the “must have baby” urges.

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  32. roissy:re your last response;

    no one has any real absolute explanation as to what happens when you die or whatever happens thereafter.

    [editor: true. but there isn’t a scintilla of evidence for anything other than complete cessation of life.]

    your logical answer, could be just as wrong/flawed as the next guy. regardless of whether he could be a hedonistic/spritual/scientific/high IQ genuis type of guy.

    truth is we don’t know it all. we never have and we never will. regardless of our logic/philosophies that we so dearly cherish.

    All I know is if I ever have a kid (preferably a son) I will expose him to your blog, the mystery method, rooshs bang book, and my own maxims up until then.

    [sounds like you’d make a good father. just tell your daughters to stay off the pole. or have them read about lady rain’s life. that should scare them straight.]

    Whatever happens after that, just happens.

    Fin.

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  33. oh and mystery does have a kid roissy.

    its a girl her name is Dakota Breeze.

    [editor: goddamn it’s the end of an era.]

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  34. Roissy,

    “my advocacy for a life of hedonistic pursuit is the only logical answer to the meaning of it all”

    Well said.

    – MPM

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  35. on July 16, 2009 at 7:45 pm Glass half empty

    kalliOpe,

    In addition to hedonistic considerations, there are compelling other-regarding moral ones to defy “must have baby” urges:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=oXqs8QCwCpUC&dq=better+never+to+have+been&source=gbs_navlinks_s

    But if you must have baby, then adopt.

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  36. collegeboy

    “oh and mystery does have a kid roissy.

    its a girl her name is Dakota Breeze.”

    Anyone want to give odds on the girl becoming a porn star with the name Dakota Breeze?

    Wow.

    That song sucked.

    Had to cut it off at 00:17.

    – MPM

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  37. on July 16, 2009 at 7:52 pm Cliff Arroyo

    “Wow.
    That song sucked.
    Had to cut it off at 00:17”

    Pussy! I made it to 00:23.

    And yeah, she’s gonna be a porn star, it’s written in the wind. Daddy’ll be so proud.

    On the other hand, she might get borned again and end up on PTL club (Daddy’ll be so ashamed).

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  38. Cliff Arroyo:

    Sweden is no longer homogenous or monocultural. It’s been an immigration destination since at least the 70’s.

    Yes, but even with a percentage of immigrants well into the double digits, its legal system and the culture of the classes that wield significant influence are still homogeneous and monocultural. They are already feeling the consequences of mass immigration, there’s no argument about that. But it will take a while more before its consequences are felt in things like marriage and family law, where the relevant cultural, legal, and political influences are still almost purely home-grown.

    But Sweden also has what some sociologists call a feminine culture, which in case of conflict (like divorce) prefers negotiation and compromise (and declaring things a draw) rather than a fight to the death to declare a clear winner and loser as is the preference in the US (a more ‘masculine’ culture).

    Well, here we’re getting into complex cultural issues. I’d say it’s not so much about “feminine” culture. In small, homogeneous nation-states, and even in larger ones if they’re homogeneous enough, the spirit of politics and government in general has far less ruthlessness and hostility compared to the U.S. This isn’t an unalloyed good, of course; it produces a system of far stricter enforced conformity and less toleration for any sort of dissent. However, people in such places tend to perceive the government as a cooperative effort, rather than a scorched-earth ideological battleground, and together with a homogeneous culture and a high level of conformity, this leads to much less need for heavy-handed governing.

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  39. Roissy, while I find myself generally in agreement with the wisdom you pass down I have to register my disagreement here. If you are going to use evopsych to explain the attraction triggers that must be pulled in the pursuit of seduction, it would seem odd to ignore the central insight of evolution, which is that reproductive fitness is the mechanism through which genetic change is transmitted. Put differently, while a man can certainly be alpha in his regular behavior patterns, those are mere vehicles to finding the best possible reproductive partner. It is not until he transmits his genes that he actualizes alpha. Not for nothing is Genghis Khan #1 Alpha in history, with more than 16 million people (accurate as of 2003) directly descended from him.

    Speaking generally, (young) children are loud, ungrateful, and demand large investments in time and resources. As are (frequently) women. Alpha males are capable of handling the latter. Why should the former be any more difficult?

    Finally, I’ve noticed a distinct tension in your beliefs. You have rightly criticized government policy regarding the changing demographics of this country. (I think in particular of this passage🙂

    We are importing tens of millions of the peasant class from culturally and genetically antagonistic countries who do not possess a natural instinct towards American-style individualism and distrust of government. Our historical “anti-power” ethos is rapidly being replaced in a great demographic tsunami by a “daddy government” ethos. Way to go, guys!

    If you object to this, and it is perfectly reasonable to do so, are you not duty bound to offset the demographic tsunami through offspring of your own? That’s an honest question by the way, and I’m curious how you respond to that. Extra points for going into greater depth beyond merely “hedonism is the only rational response to life’s emptiness.”

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  40. jesus carny christ. the point is not what the guy’s talent level is in singing to his child.

    the point is:

    how much of a “genetic success” is one, really, for having had offspring?

    should PUAs therefore, have dozens?

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  41. And….knowing more about HTML would have helped right here.

    Apparently placing a “:” before a “)” creates a smiley face. Just so everyone’s clear, I wasn’t attempting to do that. So, slag away for that, but the rest of the comment should stand on its own.

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  42. on July 16, 2009 at 8:19 pm Cliff Arroyo

    “In small, homogeneous nation-states, and even in larger ones if they’re homogeneous enough, the spirit of politics and government in general has far less ruthlessness and hostility compared to the U.S.”

    Well Japan is the most ‘masculine’ country on the planet and they are very much into winner-take-all competition (though for various reasons outsiders are not very good at reading the signals that are crystal clear to Japanese about who has won or lost any particular skirmish. (Next time you see a Japanese movie ask a Japanese person about how they understood the story – it’ll seem like a completely different flic).

    Also Sweden has a looooong history of presumed equity between the sexes. Part of this will result in electoral set-asides and part will result in relatively sane alimony laws.

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  43. @ Firepower-
    how much of a “genetic success” is one, really, for having had offspring?

    should PUAs therefore, have dozens?

    You are a genetic success because you managed to secure a means for your genes to survive. That’s all. It’s not the same as success at life, with women etc. But offspring are the only way to determine genetic success.

    And I don’t think PUAs en masse represent the most genetically successful people. It seems that many – but not all – HAD to learn game to make up for various types of genetic inferiority (i.e. being born beta, nerdish, short, terrified of vaginas etc.)

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  44. on July 16, 2009 at 8:30 pm Cliff Arroyo

    Again white-knighting for Roissy (really I don’t want anything in return …. really!!!!)

    Evolutionary success isn’t so much measured in offspring but in … offspring that (live long enough to) reproduce.

    Given Roissy’s general profile (and evolutionary psychology) the last thing he wants to do is to have offspring that can be traced to him. Alphas have a habit of making enemies and offspring that can be traced to them will generally pay the price of their father’s notoriety. Quick quiz: who’s the worst person in the world to be? answer: The king’s (acknowledged) pre-pubescent son just after the king has kicked the bucket: Lots of ambitions released that can only be fulfilled if you stop breathing. In other words, guys who simultaneously praise Roissy and condemn cuckolding are at best not-very-aware and at worst raging hypocrites.

    This also makes me wonder about Roissy’s hard anti-cuckolding stance: If he has any biological kids they’re almost certainly changelings and his calls for husbands to psychically abuse changeling kids is _really_ maladaptive, encouraging men to abuse his own genetic legacy. That he doesn’t realize this (or care) is more evidence that he should never marry or father legitimate children.

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  45. on July 16, 2009 at 8:36 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””””””””””Seeking Alpha
    i want the culture to be strong so that i can continue freeriding.

    I want that too. And if we both tell ourselves that’s what we want, we can sleep soundly knowing our intentions are good.

    [editor: i’m just an asshole whose intentions are good. oh lord please don’t let me be misunderstood.]

    I will say that my opinion of the local immigrants has decreased since I moved to Greenwich and now live among them (neighborhood is a mix of blue collar contractors like my neighbors and hispanic immigrants 10 to a house). They sneak down our driveway and steal my cans out of my recycling bin.

    Come on, amigo! Not cool.

    [nothing like a little reality to focus the mind. altho can stealing is kinda tame. one of the girls i’m currently seeing lives in a borderland between ghetto and gentrified swpl-dom. walking her home late at night… lemme tell ya, the CHUDs come out at night, and it’s like a war zone. i usually carry a heavy metal pipe with me to ward off anyone thinking of doing something.]””””””””””””””””””””””

    This was big this was really big. Yea and he changed his mind because of garbage cans stolen. Jesus Christ try growing up with them.

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  46. on July 16, 2009 at 8:37 pm Gunslingergregi

    Still got to give immigrants some props though they know how to save money.

    That is what my former neighborhood looks like now to 10 to a section 8 house not immigrants though.

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  47. About having or not having children: you gotta want it, and this desire either will come to a guy in due time, or it won’t.

    I had two pregnancy scares at two different points in my 20s, with two different girls. The fear, if anyone has experienced it, is a pure ice cold hand of death. Luckily they were false alarms (though the first one may have been an abortion without my knowledge.)

    Once I was ready, by my mid/late 30s (my wife is significantly younger than I am) I wanted a kid more than anything else. The day he was born was … exhausting. And a happy one.

    The feeling of looking into the eyes of a creature that has your eyes and face is difficult to relate. It’s unlike anything I’ve experienced. I’m a regular guy, nobody special, but circumstances of my birth, my parents’ lives, and some of my choices had presented me with a lot of unusual challenges to overcome and experiences. If you take Frank Sinatra’s “My Way” and scale it down to my age, the words would apply.

    I say this to illustrate a feeling that everything I’ve experienced in life up to now fades to insignificance when I look at my son. Obviously, it is not a feeling I have every time. No one lives in a state of constant exhaltation. But the feeling is nevertheless always there under the surface.

    It also makes me look forward to things. Like when I’m 60, and he’ll come up to me and bring me a beer, and shoot the shit with me. Stuff like that.

    Roissy gets some flack for not reproducing, and think they have a “Gotcha!” on him both for not being a real alpha (alphas procreate) and not being the traditionalist he professes to be.

    Fuck that noise. The dude runs a good blog, that’s legacy enough just by itself. I printed out a couple of his best articles to have my boy read them when he’s ready.

    And if my guess as to R’s age being early/mid 30s is correct, he may yet soon feel the urge to have his own kid.

    From the “patriotic” viewpoint, I don’t harangue dudes to reproduce. Historically, most men didn’t anyway. The reproduction bottleneck is young women. There is more than surplus of sperm.

    The point about bratty out of control kids and their zombie fathers at Ikea: our culture is anti-parenthood, and many parents lack the intestinal fortitude to be firm.

    Go to Eastern Europe or patriarchal areas of the non-Western world. You’ll be amazed at seeing properly behaved, respectful kids.

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  48. on July 16, 2009 at 8:44 pm Cliff Arroyo

    Okay, I’m stupid (the key to growth is to realize when you’ve missed something important, own up to it and move on ….).

    In evolutionary terms Roissy’s professed hatred of changelings makes sense in terms of deep cover: by openly professing disdain for changelings (even though they are not to blame for their state) he’s simultaneously drawing attention away from himself (as probable provider of cuckoo babies) and, rather perversely encouraging men who love the children in their life to not examine (or think about) their real possible paternity. Mr. Average who has emotionally bonded with Roissette jr. doesn’t want to imagine himself being nasty to her is more likely to disregard the fact that she looks nothing like him or his wife if he’s openly encouraged to do her harm.

    It all makes (horrible but completely human) sense.

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  49. One possible clue as to the relatively high and independent role of women in Swedish society might be because for a long time Sweden was abundantly supplied with slaves – otherwise known as “labor saving devices” that do a lot to liberate the wifey from doing anything she does not want to do. That fact, like the onset of hyper-convenient living here starting in the 1950s, could explain why Nordic women felt liberated in respect of homelife. The Vikings stole everything they could get on their ships but their Irish & English captives were the most valuable in the market place. This went on until they were Christianized in the Middle Ages.
    Nihilism is a special issue, imho because it is not legitimate to deal with it on a purely “objective” or detached level. An “utterly cold vacuum” is not just how we would label “life” or humanity, or whatever, but every single moment of our own lives.

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  50. on July 16, 2009 at 8:55 pm The Older Man

    I dont agree with this. A man should have kids, the only problem to me is when exactly?

    I had my first batch when I was 16 and 19 – yes it was F’n hard BUT I was young with heaps of energy at my physcial prime.

    It didn’t completely kill me financially because of plenty of the welfare state support. (Australia)

    The best part is that I was financially free of CS when I hit 37 became a partner at 39 and my earnings skyrocketed.

    I plan to have the second batch when I am 60 to a 20yo woman from the 3rd world who is completely reliant on me with little or no english language skills and is appreciative of her new home in the west.

    I then give her and the kids a classical liberal education with plenty of readings from Popper, Hulme and Hayeck and You Tubes from Reagan and Ron Paul.

    This way my prime income earning years (39 – 59) have been unencumbered by my countries puniative CS laws.

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  51. on July 16, 2009 at 8:57 pm Gunslingergregi

    Thinking back I have not seen them spank or seen one of the kids cry/or yell in indo unless they were a baby and hungry or fell down and were a girl. Interesting.

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  52. Hey, at least no worries about healthcare for those familias con doce bebés
    http://docs.house.gov/gopleader/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf

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  53. Naw. I agree with Roissy. Of course, the birth-rate is nose-diving. Babies and children are outright liabilities nowadays. They serve no purpose other than to make parents feel good that their genes are present in the next generation, that’s all. If you someone who loves you for being you then get a pet.

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  54. Once again a massive, stroke level failure of imagination is blinding people.

    The notion of a duty to pass down our genes made sense when genes could only be passed down through sex. Times are changing. Soon we’ll be able to pick and choose genes – build babies from the ground up.

    There is no duty to procreate. Technology is changing too fast to even begin to guess what the next moral crises will be – but it certainly won’t be about a duty to donate sperm directly into a womb.

    Man, you guys can be migraine level boring and obtuse. Get it through your thick skulls. Technology changes everything.

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  55. It is money that changes everything. That you are thinking of changing.

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  56. xsplat:

    Man, you guys can be migraine level boring and obtuse. Get it through your thick skulls. Technology changes everything.

    You’d probably have more fun on Ray Kurzweil’s website than here. Imagine the fun of debating his propellerhead fans about whether the Singularity will come about through genetic engineering or mind uploading first!

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  57. @Vlad “Also, Swedes are apt to consider divorce as a normal eventual outcome of marriage, not as a failure that invites blaming and confrontation.”

    From Marginal Revolution, courtesy of super-alpha Tyler Cowen, who regularly pushes his cock on Roissy’s prostate when he assfucks Roissy, making Roissy cum like a girl:

    [editor: you are so gay.]

    From an interview with a Swedish woman:

    A young woman gave me a thoughtful answer and so I asked her, “What are you looking for in a husband?” Without batting an eye or pausing for thought, she answered: “Three things. One, he must be good in bed. Two, he must be a good father. Three, when we divorce, he mustn’t be bitter.”

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  58. Rum, there has always been money. There has not always been bio-tech and Moores law.

    There must be some reason why people are so mule headed about facing the fact of the upcoming changes. Must be too incomprehensible to seem real.

    Pisses me off that people quibble about stuff that is soon to be completely pointless. Without any notion of how pointless. More inane than a duel on a sinking titanic – because at least in that situation you’d be aware that the Titanic was sinking. People seem pointedly unaware that race is soon a non-issue. Genetic engineering changes that. Why is that so incomprehensible to people?

    And let’s not forget that the borg is coming.

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  59. Vlad, I’m more interested in getting pussy than second guessing the future. I live in the here and now.

    It’s the ignorant second guessing of social changes and the ignorant notions about morality existing independent of technological changes that wears my spirit down.

    This blog is meant to be my intellectual stimulation, but can be like watching the tards have tard talk.

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  60. on July 16, 2009 at 9:27 pm Gunslingergregi

    Yea but xsplat you could frame that as life has no purpose and die now.

    But if your gonna be here. It is fun to argue some shit. And also probably fun to try and put out some information for the time you are here under this ruleset to make sure you don’t get enslaved. Because being enslaved if you are here is not so much fun at least to my mind. Also fun to here a bunch of points of view. nice to excercise the brain so maybe you can still remain autonomous even if attached to the borg.

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  61. Yay for Sweden for no alimony and child support, boo for Roissy for his anti-species propagation stance. Dude *has* to be on the payroll of the Elders of Zion.

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  62. Gunslinger, ever since I was a kid, I’d get irritated when TV and movie entertainments failed to appreciate physics.

    Entertainment is more entertaining when it is potentially realistic.

    You guys too often loose sight that the ship we are sailing on is actually a transformer, and talk as if it’s just smooth sailing straight ahead, like always.

    The current physics underlying the entertainment we discuss includes bio-tech and borg-tech getting rapidly more complex. Face it. Put that into your TV show. It will be more entertaining, not less.

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  63. on July 16, 2009 at 9:32 pm Seeking Alpha

    Yea and he changed his mind because of garbage cans stolen.

    I haven’t changed my mind at all. I never made it up in the first place. I’m sure my German and Irish immigrant ancestors weren’t much of a pleasure to live next to either.

    The two questions on immigration are – what are the costs and benefits economically, and what are the costs and benefits culturally?

    Most people here don’t care about the first question until the second question is answered. Which is fine. Everyone has their own priorities.

    The more specific question is, do second generation Hispanic immigrants assimilate and become brown-skinned American teenagers or not?

    I don’t believe this is settled. Most ‘statistics’ on the cultural effects of immigration are used the way a drunk uses a lamppost – for support rather than illumination.

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  64. on July 16, 2009 at 9:32 pm Gunslingergregi

    The old man,

    Why not sooner than 59 f that why not 45 to 49?

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  65. on July 16, 2009 at 9:34 pm Gunslingergregi

    Well yea xplat and perfect war will happen too. If you let it control your life though. When it doesn’t happen and utopia happens instead. You will get fucked up planning for one event.

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  66. on July 16, 2009 at 9:36 pm Gunslingergregi

    Really once I have 10 k a month coming in I will be in my own personal utopia. I could probably do it for less but my dam inner soul don’t like it I guess.

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  67. Technology changes everything, but rarely in ways expected. Henry Ford’s cheap autos, in the post-War era, combined with cheap new suburbs meant the end of Segregation. Because Whites did not need to fear the inevitable Black political and otherwise retribution, given that they’d live outside the jurisdiction and physical retaliation space of majority Black cities.

    The internet makes Game and the ability to hone it more practical, with free and nearly free guides, feedback, and so on.

    Contraception, cheap and reliable, and anonymous urban living allow women to pile on the sex partners and choose men for short-term flings.

    I doubt Kurzweil has nailed anything, rather, stuff like Iphones (video coaching for seduction/Game), pheromone research, and so one will have huge impacts in unforeseen ways as people adapt technology to uses not originally foreseen.

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  68. As I said gunner, I live for now and for pussy. There is no contradiction to facing reality and living for now.

    It’s much more enriching to discuss reality. More fun. More full. Someone needs to slap 99% of the people on this blog upside the head. The world you are discussing neglects the enormity of change – as if this were the 1300s and we should expect our kids to live in anything resembling todays world.

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  69. on July 16, 2009 at 9:40 pm Seeking Alpha

    Xsplat,

    By your reasoning, we should never discuss anything involving the future or the implications of present trends. Kurzweil’s Singularity is called a Singularity for a reason.

    We can’t look past it.

    And if we can’t look past it, we can’t really discuss it.

    Sounds boring to me. You could cut off almost any intellectual debate by throwing down the Singularity gauntlet (but everything will be DIFFERENT!) and while you’re not wrong, you’re also not adding anything useful.

    So if faced with the choice of a) discussing the world with the unstated assumption that technological change is linear and at worst sharpening your critical reasoning skills or b) always assuming the truth of Kurzweil’s Law of Accelerating Returns but then being unable to discuss anything of consequence…

    I’ll go with A. Most of the time. B can be fun from time to time (esp. with respect to military strategy and national power) but it doesn’t have to be ALWAYS.

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  70. xsplat:

    Vlad, I’m more interested in getting pussy than second guessing the future. I live in the here and now.

    It’s the ignorant second guessing of social changes and the ignorant notions about morality existing independent of technological changes that wears my spirit down.

    These changes are by no means guaranteed, and almost certainly won’t happen within our lifetimes. And anyway, who has ever guessed anything correctly about long-term technological developments, except by random luck? Just look at science fiction and “futurological” stuff written more than 30-40 years ago.

    What you predict may or may not happen, but until it actually happens, I think it’s wise to stick to rules that worked reliably throughout human history.

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  71. Exactly Whiskey. Technology changes everything, and in unforseeable ways. You got it.

    Now you may understand why race talk that looks ahead more than one generation is irrelevant to me. Because it’s irrelevant.

    Duty to procreate is mere race talk. In genetic terms, irrelevant.

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  72. on July 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””””’vladimir,
    What you predict may or may not happen, but until it actually happens, I think it’s wise to stick to rules that worked reliably throughout human history.””””””””’

    One change though gun prenump he he he

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  73. Vlad, what did I predict? I predicted massive change.

    And that is a certainty. The only thing that could stop extreme and rapid technological growth is war on a scale that shuts down civilization capable of our level of technology.

    Either way, it’s extreme change from today.

    You do see that, don’t you?

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  74. on July 16, 2009 at 9:53 pm The Older Man

    Gunslingergregi
    The old man,
    Why not sooner than 59 f that why not 45 to 49?

    Because I am having toooo much fun living the bachelor lifestyle i missed out on in my 20’s

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  75. on July 16, 2009 at 9:58 pm The Older Man

    And I want to set a good example for my sons….

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  76. In that case Seeking, you’ll have to concede that your choice of what to discuss is not reality. It’s a chess game. That’s fine.

    But don’t pawn it off as relating to reality.

    Because this is no cartoon. In real life, when Lois Lane falls from the building, and Superman catches her, she dies from rapid deceleration.

    You can discuss cartoons, if that pleases you, but don’t pawn it off as discussing reality.

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  77. on July 16, 2009 at 10:03 pm Gunslingergregi

    I am 33 it does seem wierd that I could retire in two years or so. I like to think I have the imagination to do it though. The fear is there don’t know why.

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  78. on July 16, 2009 at 10:13 pm Seeking Alpha

    xsplat

    But the… condenscension?… is still there in your reply. By your logic, it is impossible and childish to discuss ANYTHING relating to the future.

    The logical end point of such a stance is itself childish – forget tomorrow.

    Anyway I’m gonna try and get to bed early tonight. I’ll try and find any reply tomorrow morning at work if I remember.

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  79. The third alternative, between supporting children and not having them, is to play the role of rouge alpha interloper; inseminate women who are committed to betas and/or flee the country when the child support load becomes too much to bear with uncommitted women (the Grandaddy Obama Method).

    Provides the ego boost of passing on their genetic material and/or provides the sense of moral superority/necessity of knowing that you did your duty of spreading your superiority genetic material to as many members of the next generation as you possibly could.

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  80. @TheOlderMan:

    How old are you?

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  81. I, for one, don’t think there’s much of a conflict of interest between Roissy’s lifestyle and my own parental unit servitude.

    In fact, I wish I had an “uncle Roissy” over here to dump the kids off on once every month or so. I’d moan and gripe to uncle Roissy about how unfair it is that he gets to go out and get laid EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, until he finally gave in and agreed to hang out with the kids every once in a while.

    In the long run, it would be good for everyone, because the children would hang on his every word and worship the ground he walks on, so they would actually have a good time together. As the kids got older, they could call him up and have candid conversations, and I’d never have to know what they were, and wouldn’t want to, because I’d ultimately trust him to give the right advice.

    Every kid should have an uncle Roissy, and every uncle Roissy should have little acolytes. When they grew up and he got old, they’d still love each other, and they’d all still love to get together and hear stories. That’s family, and guys like Roissy fit in just fine.

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  82. on July 16, 2009 at 10:25 pm Gunslingergregi

    Well Aanigma there is a cap. I would probably encourage a son in the states to go ahead and impregnate them all. I would go ahead and provide him a job making 1500 a month and finance his living expenses he he he

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  83. I am a child fundamentalist. You can´t live without having children. Roissy and DA are genetically equivalent

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  84. In fact, I wish I had an “uncle Roissy” over here to dump the kids off on once every month or so. I’d moan and gripe to uncle Roissy about how unfair it is that he gets to go out and get laid EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, until he finally gave in and agreed to hang out with the kids every once in a while.

    Aren’t you assuming that “Uncle Roissy” has a conscious to pester into submission?

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  85. anedocte wrt LILGRL

    são paulo has the largest japanese colony outside Japan, spo by living here you get used to them. but only if you leave you realize the dynamics that you take for granted by living here.

    whenever someone spoke about a mestiza, or Japanese-white girl, everyone assumed hotness. But you couldn´t believe the despise of japanese girls and mestizas when talking about boys who were mixed race themselves.

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  86. Wow, Mystery could not have thought this video would get out!

    He’s actually not a bad singer, though. The recording quality is really bad (the guitar sounds more like a ukelele than a guitar,) but you can hear that his (vocal) pitch is good and it sounds like he has a pretty decent tone. I’ve heard a hell of a lot worse. (Evaluating singers is sorta my job, so I can’t help myself here.)

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  87. theblanque

    In fact, I wish I had an “uncle Roissy” over here to dump the kids off on once every month or so. I’d moan and gripe to uncle Roissy about how unfair it is that he gets to go out and get laid EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, until he finally gave in and agreed to hang out with the kids every once in a while.

    Aren’t you assuming that “Uncle Roissy” has a conscious to pester into submission?

    You mean conscience?

    I’ll say this:

    It isn’t the honest people who worry me. I differ from most others in that respect.

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  88. The logical end point of such a stance is itself childish – forget tomorrow.

    The logical endpoint is to make your mind and lifestyle fluid. Be prepared for anything, and live for today. The logical endpoint is a tomorrow vastly different from a today.

    We don’t need to know what will happen tomorrow to prepare as best we can for it, nor do we need to believe in an afterlife to quell our existential angst enough to enjoy a hearty breakfast.

    There is no contradiction between living with the facts of death and an unknowable future, and enjoying a pragmatic and engaged present.

    The condescension comes from seeing people avoid the obvious. It’s irritating.

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  89. You mean conscience?

    Arrgh…yes. SpellCheck I have–thesaurus I don’t.

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  90. Does anyone have any details on Mystery’s Baby Momma?

    Hot? Not?

    LTR? So-so one night stand?

    Raw Dog? Broken Condom?

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  91. “Whenever someone spoke about a mestiza, or Japanese-white girl, everyone assumed hotness. But you couldn´t believe the despise of japanese girls and mestizas when talking about boys who were mixed race themselves.”
    === They are revulsed by boys who are part AfricanAboriginal?Or is it any boy who is any sort of mixture at all? Looking at the ethnic components of Sao Paulo in the Wikipedia article on that city, I see potential for lots of combos that I would think could result in attractive men (e.g., Persian/Japanese). Certainly seems like they would be better-looking on average than pure Japanese males, who are not exactly known as studs.

    @xsplat: As our new condescension troll, here’s a string you can just copy and paste to save time in the future:
    “I can’t BELIEVE you’re stupid enough to even SAY that.”
    Hmm. In fact, maybe we should all gang up on you and make that our standard reply to whatever you say. “Fight condescension with condescension,” I say. Especially since I strongly suspect you’re under thirty.

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  92. “I will say that my opinion of the local immigrants has decreased since I moved to Greenwich and now live among them”

    Funny how fuzzy bunny fantasies never survive actual prolonged contact with the actuality of the rodents.

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  93. on July 17, 2009 at 12:14 am The Older Man

    Mandy! xD
    @TheOlderMan:

    How old are you?

    43 single slim loaded

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  94. [it’s not just their ingrate natures. it’s the fact that they kill romance by their very presence. spontaneity is destroyed. freedom is curtailed. fun is shat upon. i’m not seeing an upside.]

    There is less spontaneity and freedom, romance is still there (it just has to be worked at more than previously), but being a dad is a hell of a lot of fun! It is a life experience that everyone should have, and I am damn glad I did it. I feel certain that if I didn’t, I’d regret it later.

    Is there anything more pathetic than a guy in his 40s (or older) in a nightclub trying to score? If you plan to pursue hedonism into middle age, your conops are going to have to change…

    From the “patriotic” viewpoint, I don’t harangue dudes to reproduce.

    That would be pointless, since you can’t make them do what they don’t want to do, and a man has to make his own decisions. Just the same, I regard people who do not successfully raise a child to adulthood as failures, especially if they are intelligent and well-educated.

    “The Singularity” is the Rapture for nerds.

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  95. James – not much content to your trolling for xsplat comment, none that I noticed as usefull, at least. You must not have read many of my comments on this blog, as I’ve mentioned my age repeatedly. I also disagree that my comments are as vacuous as you imply.

    As to condescension – yup, damn straight. You never addressed whether in this case it was justified. I think it is.

    Not sure why I bothered to reply to you. Really not.

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  96. on July 17, 2009 at 12:35 am Gunslingergregi

    Dam exsplat time to get some drink bud. Don’t normally suggest that as option.

    Oh yea and what the fuck happened in jakarta.

    2 bombs marriot, and ritz carlton.

    Some american chick get really pissed off or what.

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  97. on July 17, 2009 at 12:36 am Gunslingergregi

    I’ve been to both hotels. They have guys with machine guns that check the vehicles. before you get inside the hotel dropoff area.

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  98. Moderated, so reposting in two sections..

    Gun

    Dam exsplat time to get some drink bud. Don’t normally suggest that as option.

    You’re talking to someone who could fairly be described as alcoholic, who recently discovered that he has serious heart disease – through recently having two mini strokes. But ya, had some beers last night, and some booze most every day this last week.

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  99. I’m expecting to improve and fix the vascular problems, with some meds I’ve found for that. Niacin, dried worms (same ingredients in them that they give to stroke victims, to break down blood clots), and pomegranate extract.

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  100. As for taking the chill pill, I decline. It’s more therapeutic to vent – and I’ve been polite on this issue long enough. Steaming point on this one.

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  101. on July 17, 2009 at 12:49 am Gunslingergregi

    Where you anywhere near it when it happened?

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  102. One of these words is a moderation trigger:

    I’m expe cting to impr ove and fix the vas cular probl ems, with some me ds I’ve found for that. Nia cin, dri ed wor ms (same ingred ients in them that they give to st roke victi ms, to br eak dow n blo od clo ts), and pome granate ex tract.

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  103. No Gun, I haven’t even heard that news yet. I’ll tune into some local stations to see.

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  104. XSPLAT

    If you never go to any of those meetings you are not an
    alcoholic.

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  105. Ya, Rum, that’s why I was so careful in my phrasing. I also doubt the validity of the term. But there can be some meaning in it.

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  106. on July 17, 2009 at 1:22 am Gunslingergregi

    Dam Bro,

    You need any help?

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  107. @ gig

    anedocte wrt LILGRL

    são paulo has the largest japanese colony outside Japan, spo by living here you get used to them. but only if you leave you realize the dynamics that you take for granted by living here.

    whenever someone spoke about a mestiza, or Japanese-white girl, everyone assumed hotness. But you couldn´t believe the despise of japanese girls and mestizas when talking about boys who were mixed race themselves.

    Interesting. I don’t know the situation in Sao Paulo OR in Japanese Japan…just third-culture Japan, and in that part of the community, half-Asian guys are pretty IN DEMAND.

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  108. Nope – thanks for asking though.

    It was weird at the time – I became partially blind for almost a week. Then partially blind a second time for about 4 minutes.

    Apparently some blood clot must have dislodged and got stuck in a place my eyebones needed to get their blood juice from. That’s why I eat dried worms every day – they help the body to break up blood clots.

    My readings suggest that arteriosclerosis is reversible, and it seems I’m taking the proper steps to reverse it.

    I had a workup a few months ago – before the strokes – and ekg was fine as were the organs and blood. I’ll get more tests done in a few months, as my business is starting to boom and I’ll be swimming in cash soon.

    My plan for that is to get a few pembantoos (live in young maids) and rent a nice villa. My 2nd girlfriend is plenty freaky, and will abide any of my lusts. She’s great.

    Going to see the 1st girlfriend in a few weeks. Threesome coming up?

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  109. …half-Asian guys are pretty IN DEMAND.

    Yes, in SE Asia, halfie boys are considered as rock stars.

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  110. It is just so wrong to be a fat slow-moving target.
    Learn to run, like you did when you were a lithe, high speed child.

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  111. retarlded

    Is there anything more pathetic than a guy in his 40s (or older) in a nightclub trying to score?

    Is there anything more pathetic than a guy in his 40s who thinks he’s too old to go to a nightclub and score?

    I assume you are not close to 40 Tarl. When you get there you’ll notice that people don’t age. Only their bodies age. Stay fit, and you’ll have the same drives you did in your youth.

    And yes, 40 year old guys score. In nightclubs and elsewhere. We do fine.

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  112. People who say that “procreation is the whole point of life; evolution proves it!” have never studied evolution.

    It is true that without procreation, a particular genetic line will die out. But it is also true that if you choose not to breathe, or eat, your genetic line will die out. This doesn’t make them the “evolutionary reason for existence.” We breathe and eat because we’ve been programmed to want to do these things by genes that would have died out if they didn’t make us do them. Sex is the same.

    The basic mistake people make is to assume that organisms want to pass down their genes. Organisms have absolutely no concept of passing down genes, and until very recently, neither did homo sapiens. Evolution equipped us with various drives and instincts that assured we would pass down our genes, and they have been very effective up to this point. People want sex because it feels good, not becuase they want to pass down their genes. Just like we eat because we get hungry if we don’t, and not because “evolution” has given us some concept The concept “passing down one’s genes” is an intellectual concept that has been grafted onto the basic desires we have, which are to fuck genetically desirable mates.

    Human beings (like all organisms) are not fitness maximizers that go around trying to be evolutionarily “fit”. Rather, we are adaption-executors, equipped with various adaptions that we have evolved and which we go around executing, like computers programmed to perfom a certain function without understanding what that function is.

    That said, there is also an instinct for children separate from the instinct for the sex which creates them, and which is relatively weak (especially in men), but still present. That’s the instinct that makes many (though not all) people get all gooey-eyed over cute babies.

    I, for one, plan to have like 8 babies with a woman who will be a good mother. But that’s because I’ve made an analysis of what makes Master Dogen happy and I’ve decided that’s what I want (provided all the circumstances and the woman are right… and if they’re not, I’ll stick with lots of sex, thanks). I’d be an idiot to say I want those 8 babies because of “evolution.” The main thing “evolution” wants me to get is an endless string of sex with perfect 10’s.

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  113. This is one area that the normally-nutty Swedes have got it 100% right.

    Much like the French getting 80% of their electricity from nuclear power, the most sensible non-Carbon-DIOXIDE**-negative alternative, the left will simply not reply when informed some of their Euro-heros are doing anything that they would not want for their host country, the United States.

    ** Dont you love how the Global Warming bullshitters (we are seeing 50-degree mornings in July in Wisconsin, and 84 degree highs in July in Tennessee) have labelled it merely Carbon, implying we are putting a black powder in the air, when we are simply putting the same thing into the air that we breathe out, that animals all breath out, the most natural “natural” by product there is and one that plants MUST breathe in? Some in the farming sciences think the excess of carbon-DIOXIDE probably HELPS crop yields.

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  114. DA, xsplat wants to be your friend.

    Z “Some in the farming sciences think the excess of carbon-DIOXIDE probably HELPS crop yields.”
    === Indeed.
    http://tinyurl.com/C02enhance

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  115. You’re all idiots! The alpha impregnates a chick and leaves the beta to support and raise it. Thus avoiding the headache of raising and paying for crumb crunchers. You can also leave behind as many offspring as you like under this strategy. A good tactic can be substitute the beta husband with welfare government. The lesson here is to exploit others for your benefit. That is the alpha way.

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  116. on July 17, 2009 at 3:56 am Gunslingergregi

    lol the alpha can support 500 midgets no prob and gets to play a part in the raising all of them with his views on the world.

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  117. on July 17, 2009 at 4:00 am Gunslingergregi

    not 500 using him for cs but 500 with the woman working as a team he he he

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  118. Second, in a small, homogeneous, and monocultural society such as Sweden

    Incorrect. Since the 1970’s Sweden has had a large and growing immigrant population. Your description fits Finland or Sweden pre-1970’s much better than today’s Sweden.

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  119. on July 17, 2009 at 5:48 am Epoxytocin No. 87

    Meanwhile, Australia is on its way down the toilet, and fast.

    As of March 1 of this year, partners (i.e., women) in “de facto relationships” that have lasted at least 2 years can now get alimony.
    Even from married men.

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=664147

    It gets worse. Read these lines:

    Queensland Law Society chair Julie Harrington said the laws would also hit polygamists who had only one recognised marriage but multiple de facto partners who now had some rights under the Act.

    She added that men who had been in a succession of monogamous relationships could also face paying maintenance support to multiple ex-partners.

    I have no words. None.

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  120. on July 17, 2009 at 5:50 am Epoxytocin No. 87

    And notice, in the above, the deliberate inclusion of “men”. They are making it clear that this new law certainly won’t work the other way around; i.e., high-earning women won’t have to pay any of their ex boyfriends.

    If and when the new muslim order takes over, the people who drafted and voted for these laws should be shot. I would gladly pull the trigger myself.

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  121. on July 17, 2009 at 6:07 am Gunslingergregi

    ”””””””””on July 17, 2009 at 5:48 am Epoxytocin No. 87
    Meanwhile, Australia is on its way down the toilet, and fast.

    As of March 1 of this year, partners (i.e., women) in “de facto relationships” that have lasted at least 2 years can now get alimony.
    Even from married men.

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=664147

    It gets worse. Read these lines:

    Queensland Law Society chair Julie Harrington said the laws would also hit polygamists who had only one recognised marriage but multiple de facto partners who now had some rights under the Act.

    She added that men who had been in a succession of monogamous relationships could also face paying maintenance support to multiple ex-partners.

    I have no words. None.”””””””””’

    Like I said china is our only hope for the world at least maybe the whole world won’t be enslaved if china can exterminate the west.

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  122. on July 17, 2009 at 6:10 am Gunslingergregi

    They are trying to make our incomes equal the third world instead of raising the third world incomes lol

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  123. on July 17, 2009 at 6:19 am Gunslingergregi

    There where 857 comments. The comments need to change from oh well I’ll get a woman from another country to I will kill the judge that would put that on me. Only way it will change the judges obviously do not care about the human misery they are inflicting. They do not deserve to be held in any sort of high esteem anymore if they commit crimes against a person. You used to be able to think they would be fare but if stuff like that starts happening then wtf are they expecting people are gonna do?

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  124. on July 17, 2009 at 6:21 am Gunslingergregi

    Maybe at least the asians will leave each other mostly alone to live there lives like they do now.

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  125. on July 17, 2009 at 6:25 am Gunslingergregi

    History buffs has there ever been a time when men where enslaved almost worldwidfe?

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  126. on July 17, 2009 at 6:30 am Gunslingergregi

    Courts are commiting crimes against humanity. In hitlers time it did not help the people under him to say that they where under orders they still hung.

    This shit is like judge dread the movie.

    ”””””'””I am the law, judge jury, and slave master”””””’

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  127. on July 17, 2009 at 6:32 am Gunslingergregi

    Ok we need 1000 men to do hunger strike. Try to reason with them.

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  128. on July 17, 2009 at 6:32 am Gunslingergregi

    Need men lighting themselves on fire in front of the white house

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  129. on July 17, 2009 at 6:34 am Gunslingergregi

    Men are already sacrificing themselves in suicide they need to make their sacrifice more heard.

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  130. on July 17, 2009 at 6:35 am Gunslingergregi

    So that by there deaths they can shine a beacon of light on those left behind.

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  131. “Some in the farming sciences think the excess of carbon-DIOXIDE probably HELPS crop yields.”

    Not some, all. Not probably, definitely, as proven by experimentation over and over again. The increase in crop yields from increased CO2 levels is documented and calculated in studies of crop yields over the 20th century. Unlike AGW BS, we know crop yields are positively affected by higher CO2 levels.

    “(we are seeing 50-degree mornings in July in Wisconsin, and 84 degree highs in July in Tennessee)”

    Yet the AGW BSers in the Federal government have announced that June 2009 was the 2nd warmest on record. NOAA is making this claim despite the fact that both UAH and RSS satellite data show that June 2009 had a 0C anomaly. That’s zero, as in June 2009 was no warmer than the 20th century average temperature, a full 0.8C below the temperature predicted for this time period using AGW climate models.

    NOAA is also making this claim despite the fact that anyone living in the U.S. can tell you this summer is a cool one and no where near the warmest in memory.

    Some days I truly hate our government…

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  132. Cool! I got a post mention! And here I was thinking it got missed with all the sucking up to Lillgirl and LadyRaine.

    Joint custody is the norm here (for the record I’m English but had the misfortune to marry a Swede) – if either parent wants sole custody then they have to prove in court that the other parent is unfit to be a parent. The general idea is that parents are to come to agreements between them without getting the courts involved.

    As someone noted, the socialism here means that pretty much no woman goes without.

    The only thing about divorce law here that annoyed the fuck out of me was that all assets “should” be split 50/50 on breakup but again the fact that there is no mandatory court intrusion means the couple can sort it out between them. In my case the split could have cost about a quarter of a million pounds. In the end I got away with only paying about 40 grand from my assets. Needless to say she had fuck all (one a related note has anyone done a gender based study on saving and investing? Because I get the impression it’s only men who do that. Women spend everything they earn in the hope that some man will pay for their dotage).

    Anyway, thanks for the mention Roissy.

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  133. on July 17, 2009 at 6:42 am Gunslingergregi

    We need a vietnam style memorial of all the men who died in prison from child support. We need to also include the roll of men who have had felony convictions handed to them for not being able to pay. Then how the fuck are they supposed to get jobs.

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  134. Epoxytocin No. 87 – I am at a loss to express my utter disgust for Australia right now. If I lived there I would never, ever date a woman for longer than one year.

    Family law courts are going to push it so far that men won’t get involved with any women other than strippers and hookers. And then the family law courts will award them “rights”!

    Gunslingergregi – “Ok we need 1000 men to do hunger strike. Try to reason with them.”

    No, we need 1,000 dead judges. If judges who commit human rights violations against men in the name of “family law” wound up dead more often, maybe other judges would stop violating men’s rights.

    I know that sounds extreme, but I’m sick of it. I haven’t even faced it and I’m sick of it. Seeing what some friends have gone through I really, truly do not understand why more men don’t go into court guns blazing.

    The only option left for western men is to get the big V and avoid marriage at all costs.

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  135. on July 17, 2009 at 6:45 am Gunslingergregi

    Crazy right you had net worth of 500 thousand pound and she still divorced you lol

    Shits funny sorry.

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  136. on July 17, 2009 at 6:48 am Gunslingergregi

    I am saying start with hunger strike
    The shit is out the bag right now
    perfect time
    because everyone knows about that guy that spent 14 years in jail.

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  137. on July 17, 2009 at 6:49 am Gunslingergregi

    That is funny it would only take the sacrifice of a thousand men and there wouldn’t be the personnel to have a divorce system. I am pretty sure we come close on men killing woman each year.

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  138. on July 17, 2009 at 6:50 am Gunslingergregi

    1 fifth of the sacrifice of soldiers that are over here to keep america “free”

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  139. on July 17, 2009 at 6:52 am Gunslingergregi

    Thats why it is fun flirting with woman it is like playing rushian roulette.

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  140. on July 17, 2009 at 6:53 am Gunslingergregi

    Or jumping out of a plane without a parachute exciting stuff.

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  141. on July 17, 2009 at 6:59 am Gunslingergregi

    I just want revenge for my dad that shit was so fucking disgusting. Lost respect for my dad and my mom at the same time. My mom for being able to do all that shit without a conscience without any reason. She was like the terminator, and my dad for not either killing the bitch or beating the shit out of her to save the day.

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  142. on July 17, 2009 at 7:03 am Gunslingergregi

    I couldn’t do shit either I was like why can’t you let him in to get his clothes?

    It was like talking to a wall.

    I think what really happened is she lost her mind. The crazy part is there was no one to actually help her. Just there to fuck over the guy not check if the womans thyroid is all fucked up. Not to see if the woman is acting in any kind of rational fucking way.

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  143. on July 17, 2009 at 7:05 am Gunslingergregi

    No pretty lies during that time it was all real life. Took 2 years to stop begging god to let me die every day since I couldn’t pull the trigger.

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  144. on July 17, 2009 at 7:15 am Gunslingergregi

    I have gotten good at putting myself in situations where I can die it is just not as easy as it looks to get killed.

    So if one of your fears is getting killed. Probably not gonna happen. Need to break that fear lol

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  145. Is there anything more pathetic than a guy in his 40s who thinks he’s too old to go to a nightclub and score?

    I assume you are not close to 40 Tarl. When you get there you’ll notice that people don’t age. Only their bodies age. Stay fit, and you’ll have the same drives you did in your youth.

    And yes, 40 year old guys score. In nightclubs and elsewhere. We do fine.

    I have no doubt that you don’t feel old… I’m just thinking about all the times we’ve snickered at the older guys in the bars and the clubs.

    The alpha impregnates a chick and leaves the beta to support and raise it. Thus avoiding the headache of raising and paying for crumb crunchers.

    I don’t really see the point of this. I don’t care all that much if my seed lives on after me – what do I care once I’m in the void? The point of having children is not merely to have them but to raise them properly. The “headache” part is what you’re actually after. =)

    As of March 1 of this year, partners (i.e., women) in “de facto relationships” that have lasted at least 2 years can now get alimony.
    Even from married men.

    Alrighty then, 23 months into the relationship, you pull the plug. Sorry, baby, of course I love you, it’s the court that’s doing this to you, not me. I’m just playing by the rules you women made!

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  146. And Gregi, what’s with all the spam? Show some comment discipline, dude. Settle down, collect your thoughts, put them all in a single post.

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  147. on July 17, 2009 at 8:07 am Keep a Movin' Dan

    Question for Roissy: What’s your take on prenups? In theory, they seem to have the power to avert the problems with marriage–do you think they work in practice?

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  148. Tarl – don’t you find that sniggering is usually a sign of ignorance? Teenage girlish?

    What young men fail to understand is how attractive older men are to a large percentage of young women. Even when young women agree with that sentiment on blogs, the young men can’t get it.

    It’s exactly the same as men who can’t get that technological change has already happened and will continue to happen.

    They can’t alter their internal map of reality to match up with the externalities.

    An older man can be so much more than a younger man can be. That you can’t imagine that is a failure of your imagination. An unnatractive failure, and sign of teenagery youth.

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  149. Tarl, what women find attractive is not MOSTLY about what youth offers in abundance. It’s MOSTLY about what age offers in abundance.

    Wisdom, confidence, talent, experience, mastery, humor, nonchalance, brevity, practicality, and a sense of paternal authority.

    And in some locations, an older western guy can elicit an immediate response in women of interest. Wide eyes, rapid heart beat, pussy moistening. Women sometimes have intense reactions when they see famous people. They get lusty for good bods, but its the high statuss guys that get them afluter.

    It’s perfectly natural, when in a culture that doesn’t browbeat men for lusting after youth and beauty, for youth and beauty to pair up with age and experience. Happens every day.

    You’ll sleep better if you think it’s only for money. Your ego couldn’t handle thinking it might also be because you are inferior to old guys in more than just the money department.

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  150. Here in Asia where men are still seen as Daddy figures, women pairing up with older guys is seen as natural. It’s what women want, and what men want.

    Men here are openly used for security and protection and guidance and affection, and women are openly used for sex and companionship and youth injection and fun and as personal secretaries.

    It’s fair, and usually called love, of some sort.

    What you guys are doing in the west, THAT’s the abberation. I don’t snigger at it, but now find it to be feminist indoctrination you all fell under.

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  151. on July 17, 2009 at 8:49 am Seeking Alpha

    xsplat

    I think you missed my point from earlier.

    The logical endpoint is to make your mind and lifestyle fluid. Be prepared for anything, and live for today. The logical endpoint is a tomorrow vastly different from a today.

    Of course. That you can acknowledge the Singularity and still… LIVE… is obvious.

    I was talking about intellectual discussion of the future. If you require that every discussion of the future MUST take into account the unimaginable technological changes of the future, then you can’t have an intellectual discussion in the first place.

    It would be impossible to discuss anything.

    So yes, you are technically right that the solution is to never think about anything involving the future and just ‘LIVE’ – so inspiring – but then you’re really just the average American couch potato watching American Idol and ignoring the world with the added condescension that you’re not REALLY the same because you have a REASON for ignoring intellectual discussion.

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  152. Seeking, I disagree with your premise completely.

    I suggest that discussions about the future include, in at least vague hand waving ways, the realities of science. Not merely realities of social mores, or of economics, or of aesthetics.

    Ken Wilber coined 4 quadrant theory. He says that reality always includes 2 aspects, the subjective and the objective. You can’t reduce one to the other. If you reduce science to a solipsistic philosophy, you are no longer talking about an inclusive reality, and vice/versa. Those two aspects are further divided into personal, and group oriented. So you have subjective personal, and subjective interpersonal. Subjective interpersonal would be morals. Objective interpersonal would be social science. Objective personal would be hard sciences. Subjective personal would be aesthetics.

    Or you can just talk about the big three – the good, the true, and the beautiful.

    In discussing the future, we have to include in our mental maps social changes. But if we neglect that social changes come about because of technological changes, and neglect to include technological changes, then our mental maps won’t be accurate.

    I agree with you that rigorous mental maps about the future are fun and engaging. I agree completely with your underlying idea that discussing the future is valid and fun.

    I suggest it’s done in an incomplete way, if we don’t try our best to include all 4 quadrants in our maps.

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  153. on July 17, 2009 at 9:02 am Seeking Alpha

    Xsplat

    But if we neglect that social changes come about because of technological changes, and neglect to include technological changes, then our mental maps won’t be accurate.

    Except that, by definition, life after the Singularity is impossible to forecast or predict. And if you can’t begin the social discussion until you’ve nailed down at least the broad changes that will occur in science – and if those changes could be discussed endlessly without ever coming to a conclusion – it works out to the same thing.

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  154. SA, that’s assuming the singularity, which I don’t.

    When you play chess, how many moves do you think ahead?

    You are calling me out as a bad sport for deciding to think only 3 to five moves ahead.

    I find it more realistic and practical.

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  155. on July 17, 2009 at 9:11 am Seeking Alpha

    xsplat

    So why don’t you offer an alternative instead of sticking with condescension and dismissal? Here was your first post.

    Once again a massive, stroke level failure of imagination is blinding people.

    The notion of a duty to pass down our genes made sense when genes could only be passed down through sex. Times are changing. Soon we’ll be able to pick and choose genes – build babies from the ground up.

    There is no duty to procreate. Technology is changing too fast to even begin to guess what the next moral crises will be – but it certainly won’t be about a duty to donate sperm directly into a womb.

    Man, you guys can be migraine level boring and obtuse. Get it through your thick skulls. Technology changes everything.

    So you yourself offer nothing there. Be productive and offer something worthwhile.

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  156. SA, I am being productive as I know how. There is a white elephant shitting on the carpet, and I’m mentioning it to people so they don’t continue on with the same old waltz.

    You’re welcome.

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  157. on July 17, 2009 at 9:17 am Seeking Alpha

    xsplat

    So you’re incapable of discussing the future in the ‘proper’ way or you can’t be bothered?

    And if the latter – why would you admit the former? – you clearly have plenty of time to waste with pointless posts. Work a little harder and make a non-pointless one.

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  158. Meh. I’m pretty sure it’s safe to say that there are many guys (and gals) who’d make humanity better off if they only left their jeans to the next generation. :

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  159. SA – am I really, truly, genuinely being unclear?

    Seems I must be, if you say

    So you’re incapable of discussing the future in the ‘proper’ way or you can’t be bothered?

    Can I make it simple? I think the ‘proper’ way to discuss the future is to include in any discussion of it some sense that changing technology is affecting our future.

    Did that help?

    I discuss the future all the time. I suggest diversification of investments, for example. Of money and female investments.

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  160. on July 17, 2009 at 9:26 am Seeking Alpha

    xsplat

    You’re confused.

    I think the ‘proper’ way to discuss the future is to include in any discussion of it some sense that changing technology is affecting our future.

    That’s HOW to discuss the future in the proper way.

    Discussing HOW to discuss something isn’t the same thing as discussing it.

    I discuss the future all the time. I suggest diversification of investments, for example. Of money and female investments.

    So give it a try here. Only make it a lot more interesting than ‘diversification of investments’.

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  161. xplat, I laugh when something amuses me, and the sight of a 40-something guy in a bar is usually amusing in a pathetic and sad way. Their dating market value is not nearly as high as they (and you) think it is. Yeah, some of them have those positive attributes you describe, but most of them don’t, and if they are back on the market after a divorce they have lost any semblance of game.

    A guy in his 40s oughta be home with his family, not out trolling the bars.

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  162. I’m a practical man, SA. My mind is most attracted to things that affect my life, and how to relate to them. So when considering the future, investments and women is foremost on my mind.

    Keeping my life fluid in eventuality for change, especially war, is up there.

    Black vs White culture is nowhere in my mind.

    My mental maps are used for practical aims. I worked on my philosophical needs in my youth – living in Buddhist monasteries and the like. Now I’m otherwise engaged.

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  163. on July 17, 2009 at 9:33 am Seeking Alpha

    A guy in his 40s oughta be home with his family, not out trolling the bars.

    Depends on the bar. At a hipster place in Adam’s Morgan along side VK and Roissy? Looks like a loser.

    Suited down at an upscale spot where people are drinking vodka sodas instead of Jaegar shots? Fits in no problem.

    And the girls at the 5 star hotel bars are usually hotter (and less sloppy) than those Adams Morgan girls.

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  164. Tarlded

    A guy in his 40s oughta be home with his family, not out trolling the bars.

    Right, and DA ‘ought’ to be in his moms basement, masturbating.

    The two of you make me ill with your lack of will and drive.

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  165. on July 17, 2009 at 9:35 am Seeking Alpha

    Now I’m otherwise engaged.

    So then shut the fuck up and change the channel. An ‘enlightened’ man such as yourself should be beyond complaining that comments on a blog are not up to his high intellectual and philosophical standards.

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  166. OK, SA, I’ll change the channel. Channel SA, changed.

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  167. Right, and DA ‘ought’ to be in his moms basement, masturbating.

    The two of you make me ill with your lack of will and drive.

    What are you babbling about? How does my contempt for 40-something guys in bars reflect a lack of will and drive on my part?

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  168. Tarl, unless you remake yourself, you’ll have the same attitude towards yourself when you are 40 that you have now.

    You are dissing your future self when you diss 40 somethings.

    You expect to be a loser. Planning for it.

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  169. Instead of getting yourself some heros and mentors to emulate, like Berlusconi, you prefer to mock your elders, to shore up your weak ego.

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  170. Bzzzzt, wrong. If I see people who are obviously losers, and correctly identify them as such, that hardly makes me a loser or a wannabe loser. Far from expecting and planning to be them, I expect and plan not to be them, and intend to avoid their bad example not emulate it.

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  171. Tarl,

    I’m 41, divorced and have a 5 year old son 50% of the time….and I pull chicks like a motherfucker…just like I did prior to marriage.

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  172. And yet you say that men should be home with their kids, rather than out looking to attract young women.

    Sounds like you are planning to be a loser to me.

    But maybe I’m just not a family man.

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  173. Wow, Tarl is monolithic. Unchangeable. He is a True Believer.

    Whatever he believes now, he will always believe. Reality is just something that tests his resolve. He has faith in his views, and no reality that disagrees can alter that faith.

    The fact that your life directly contradicts his views will not one milimeter alter his perception of reality.

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  174. Schoolboy true, but lets get real roissy. youth doesn’t last forever. nothing does. when you get old to the point where your every move is a overwhelming task what then?

    euthanasia

    I have to back up roissy, having kids is no guarantee than you will have someone to take care of you in your golden years esp if you have male children.

    Roissy it’s not just their ingrate natures. it’s the fact that they kill romance by their very presence. spontaneity is destroyed. freedom is curtailed. fun is shat upon. i’m not seeing an upside.]

    I agree 100%. I would hate the loss of freedom more than anything.

    Nashville Speaking generally, (young) children are loud, ungrateful, and demand large investments in time and resources

    *And have become moreso because parents are afraid to discipline their children.

    Quick Question: to over 40 people, could any of you pulled the stunt the little boy in the video pulled on his parents? Would Joe Jackson have taken this from any of his children?

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  175. xsplat The fact that your life directly contradicts his views will not one milimeter alter his perception of reality.

    whiskey jr. ?

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  176. WOW Epoxycotin, that is harsh and wrong. What does “just cause” to change the court’s opinion even mean? Also, I wonder if I can use this against my male ex-roommate. We lived together down under for awhile …

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  177. Brief google search indicates that Sweden, while they generally do not award alimony, does have the proverbial trap door in that the law does provide alimony can be awarded under ‘special circumstances.’ Those circumstances can include a long marriage where spouse has difficulty providing for themselves or other possible circumstances.

    First, there’s always a ‘trap door’ like this.

    Second, how much you want to bet that the bulk of the Swedish divorce courts fight over this issue?

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  178. You also have to remember that the marriage rate in Sweden is pretty low compared to many other countries, especially the US.

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  179. @Chic – “Would Joe Jackson have taken this from any of his children?”

    There’s a happy medium between Joe Jackson and this guy.

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  180. on July 17, 2009 at 11:26 am GNPs are for Apes

    While xsplat and a black dude may seem similar, there is one notable difference between the two :

    When a black dude is fucking an obese woman who is a 1 in looks, at least the black dude knows that the woman is a 1, and knows what a 9 is. He simply chooses to fuck the 1.

    Xsplat on the other hand, fucks 1s but actually thinks they are 6s. His scale is only 1 to 5 for the rest of us, but he adds 5 points. A 1 to us is a 6, and a 5 is a 10 to Xsplat.

    This enables Xsplat to convince himself that he fucked a 6 yesterday, and that a 10 was in love with him. See how easy life becomes if one adopts the Xsplat scale to Uggo elevation?

    This is the difference between Xsplat and a black man.

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  181. on July 17, 2009 at 11:31 am GNP is a NERD

    This is the difference between Xsplat and a black man.

    Difference between GNP and a TOTAL FUCKING NERD?

    None.

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  182. on July 17, 2009 at 11:32 am GNPs are for Apes

    Difference between GNP and a TOTAL FUCKING NERD?

    Yawn….. you are still humiliated from when I tricked you into providing the Chris Rock video that made you yourself look like a fool……

    Heh heh heh

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  183. And yet you say that men should be home with their kids, rather than out looking to attract young women.

    Sounds like you are planning to be a loser to me.

    But maybe I’m just not a family man.

    Um, yeah, a guy who has kids should be home with them – assuming he has custody of them – not out picking up women. I have a wife and kids, and needless to say I am not out in the bars trying to pick up young women. Not that I care what you think, but if you call that being a “loser”, you can go fuck yourself.

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  184. on July 17, 2009 at 11:36 am GNP is a NERD

    Yawn….. you are still humiliated from when I tricked you into providing the Chris Rock video that made you yourself look like a fool……

    Heh heh heh

    You mean the one that outed you as a liar? Yeah, it really humiliated me to tool you like that. 🙄

    NERD.

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  185. on July 17, 2009 at 11:36 am too late for romance

    The two of you make me ill with your lack of will and drive.

    Look on the bright side.

    More pussies who adopt defeatist attitudes just means less competition. I encourage defeatism because it helps the weak weed themselves out of competing for the things that really matter, like money and pussy.

    Life is too tough. Just give in and go with the flow. Why fight it?

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  186. I say get your kid fix from nieces and nephews. You visit a few hours each month and play airplane with them, then you leave. All of the fun, none of the fun-killing responsibility.

    Nieces and nephews actually are an entirely valid evolutionary strategy. By this, I mean one that IS PRACTICED.

    A hardened bachelor, by choice or necessity, dotes on his sisters kids. Spends money and time on them. As a result, she has five kids instead of the two or three she and her husband could support. So, is Mike the Hardened Bachelor an ‘evolutionary dead-end’ or is Mike the Hardened Bachelor a relative winner evolutionarily speaking, and certainly a winner as far as quality of life goes?

    Most Game ‘evolutionary’ people like to say ‘your genes will be weeded out if you can’t learn the Venusian Arts’. We’ll Master or Fool of the Venusian Arts, Mike is doing quite fine from an evolutionary perspective.

    A version of my sisters/brothers kids as my own taken to another level….. the Man with the Silver Nose!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tycho_Brahe

    “God gave us Tycho Brahe so that we may know the motion of the planets”-paraphrased Kepler

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  187. Xsplat It was weird at the time – I became partially blind for almost a week. Then partially blind a second time for about 4 minutes.

    Soory to “hear” this but I glad you’re on the mend 🙂

    My readings suggest that arteriosclerosis is reversible

    From what I’ve read it is. Eat less meat, more fruit and vegetables, and walk as much as possible.

    Xsplat What young men fail to understand is how attractive older men are to a large percentage of young women. Even when young women agree with that sentiment on blogs, the young men can’t get it.

    maturity, resources(money), the power a younger woman has on an older man, and you’ve finished most of your hoing.

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  188. Man proposes to his girlfreind in underwear.
    http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/vid/14547285

    Proposing is a beta minefield. Some ways to avoid stepping on one:

    – Never do it in a nice restaurant
    – Never get down on one or two knees
    – I’m not a fan of public proposals (like on a jumbotron) but I suppose some guys can pull ’em off

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  189. Hmm. Very interesting post & resultant thread.

    It is not my place to attempt to wrangle w/Roissy or anyone else as to what they should or should not do w/their lives. While I don’t share their views of course, I respect their right to “do them”, so to speak.

    While it is certainly true that old folks are treated horribly in this country by their own children, this isn’t something I can personally say is true for our family. Both my parents and grandparents were cared for, by me and my siblings, until the end. Only my dad died in a hospital; my mom, and both grandparents, died at home, surrounded by their kith and kin.

    I delivered three eulogies myself, refusing to let the Preachers, Good Men all, do it, for the simple reason that they did not know my mom, dad & grandmom the way we did. I wrote them and delivered them myself.

    And, in the case of my mom and dad, I dug their graves. Doing all of this has given me a great sense of perspective on life, and deepens my understanding of an Islamic view of such things.

    I’ve seen people die. Often quite violently. And either alone, in the streets, in ugly ways, undignified ways. Far too soon, to boot. My parents and grandparents lived highly productive, and long, lives. And they died w/people who loved them around them to give em a good sendoff.

    One of thee most profound moments of my life, was the night before my dad died. It was on this night, a decade ago, that we had our final conversation in this world. And like so many fathers and sons, we had our rough patches. But when we looked into each other’s eyes and I said we loved each other, that is something I will take with me all the days of my life.

    I think of my parents often. I miss them. And while I do not know for certain, I *believe* that I WILL see them again.

    As for children, I love em myself. And hope to have quite a few before its said and done. Sons, of course, but if God sees fit to give me daughters, I’ll love them just the same.

    Maybe one day I’ll speak a bit more about my close call w/being a daddy to a babygirl.

    The Obsidian

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  190. More pussies who adopt defeatist attitudes just means less competition. I encourage defeatism because it helps the weak weed themselves out of competing for the things that really matter, like money and pussy.

    I certainly agree that David Alexander is defeated, and a defeatist. However, the reason I am not in the “pick up women in bars” scene is not because I refuse to play, but because I won the competition. I am in a successful LTR and am raising children, and this is victory, not defeat.

    The man who refuses to be a father when the time is right for him is the pussy, not the man who is a father.

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  191. @pa

    I agree with the beta minefield comment. Personally when/if it happens I hope he just tells me what we’re doing. Some random stranger dude (handsome in his own way of course) comes up to me on the street – bends me over backwards (not frontward), kisses me hard and says come with my girl we’re getting married. And of course we live happily ever after – he has multiple affairs which I condone because Roissy has taught me a LOT about men and I make sure I look killer till I’m laid in my grave. Sigh….

    (tongue in cheek? – ya ok a leetle beet)

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  192. I’m sour on the idea of proposals. I reject them with laughter.

    The chick I currently dig has accepted a proposal, of sorts. She wants to live with me until dead, and I proposed to take care of her for as long as we were happy with that arrangement.

    She agrees that marriage kills love and sex drive. That kids suck the fund and freedom from life. That the certainty of marriage is the ultimate buzz kill.

    She also agrees to my travelling and philandering and to us having other girls live with us and occasional sex parties.

    Did she agree to all of this because she is a born slut? Had a history of slut-dome? Not really. Because a woman in love loves to submit to an alpha, and the way I play it, I come across as THE man. Makes her more bonded to me.

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  193. @Vino, yeah there is an exception to the rule for unusual cases – when I was researching divorce law here I found the same thing but apparently it is very rarely used anymore. The usual case for it is where the couple have been married for decades and the wife has stayed home to raise the kids without having worked at all. Then the husband can be asked to contribute to the wifes upkeep for a transition period to enable her to (re)train and enter the job market.

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  194. @Stu,

    I hear ya. I was making the mistaken assumption that the courts there would use the exception as so many courts here use it – to eviscerate the rule. Good to see it’s being used as intended.

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  195. Seeking Alpha:

    And the girls at the 5 star hotel bars are usually hotter (and less sloppy) than those Adams Morgan girls.

    Trouble is, they’re likely to be golddiggers from hell, if not outright whores.

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  196. Vladmir

    Trouble is, they’re likely to be golddiggers from hell, if not outright whores.

    As opposed to what?

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  197. Am I the only one who has the impression that for someone who supposedly lives a life of magnificent and endless delights, Xsplat sounds a little too bitter and confrontational? I mean, just compare his tone with someone like, say, PA, who sounds like a man genuinely happy with his life and with who he is.

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  198. Just spent 4 nights in Vegas minus the wife and kids and had a blast. Blew through about 2 grand. It’s all in how you work your game. Real G’s never die.

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  199. I don’t pick up women in bars either, because I, too, an in a long term relationship with a woman I am happy with. Its true she is not American (she is Japanese). We have what you might call a “relationship-based” (or soulmate) marriage. So, we are happy. We do not have kids and that we are not “kids” people. Not everyone is cut out to be a good parent. I am neither a bar slut or a parent.

    The ranting and raving in this thread is very typical of the digital either/or mentality that I think is reflected in the political spectrum. Either you are always running around trying to screw the next available girl in the bar, or you do the white picket fence thing with the kids, home mortgage, car payments, and medical and educational bills. The idea that anyone can do anything other than these two digital choices seem completely beyond your comprehensions.

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  200. DG

    …Real G’s never die.

    They just
    (return home)
    and fade away

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  201. @LR – “However I know for myself that if I have the “option” of being unfaithful (meaning the man I’m dating is fine with it) that’s really all I need. The FREEDOM to do it if I wish. When one has that freedom to choose, that’s usually good enough (meaning I don’t act on it). ”

    I don’t want the option nor do I think it fits what a man requires of his woman. We are wired differently. A woman craves A leader, not leaderS. Men require variety – it’s innate – biological stuff. I think open honest discussion about these obvious differences will lead to understanding. Women will leave their husbands to follow another leader because its unusual for a woman to stop themselves from emotional entanglements – a man on the other hand can compartmentalize. That said my partner would not be given free rein to have unprotected sex, or produce chilluns. I don’t want THAT drain or health risk, I think that’s fair. I still believe regardless a woman owes her man, unless of severe health risks, her full attention – sexual or otherwise.

    LR we are quite different in our beliefs (understatement of the year).

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  202. on July 17, 2009 at 2:47 pm mandy been here a while

    The Finns view the Swedish men as fairies…just sayin’

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  203. Vlad, who was making the bigger dig against women? You, with your painting women in high class joints as “golddiggers from hell, if not outright whores.” , or me, who loves all women as they are, including their inner opportunistic whore?

    Who is the more bitter man?

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  204. Aeofe, I don’t usually post just to agree, or to say “good job”, but I agree, and good job.

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  205. The Finns view the Swedish men as fairies…just sayin’

    Been to Finland. One of my favorite countries. The Finn guys were cool. The Swede guys? well…

    I came down to the hotel restaurant for a late-night midnight meal and to get drunk. Jetlag, restlessness, and lotsa time on my hands. And no chicks in the coed hotel sauna.

    A Swede came up to my table and babbled on about something in Swedish. I speak neither Finnish nor Swedish, but I can tell the diffeerence between the two when I hear it.

    He wouldn’t respond to “Do you speak English” or same question in 4-5 other languages. Just babbled on in Swedish, as my annoyance grew.

    He didn’t set off gaydar alerts. But I still don’t know if he was a fairy or not.

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  206. on July 17, 2009 at 2:57 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””Tarl
    And Gregi, what’s with all the spam? Show some comment discipline, dude. Settle down, collect your thoughts, put them all in a single post.”””””””

    Anger at what the country I grew up in has turned into. The woman and men where made for each other and there has been a great divide of anger placed in between that union to destroy that which can make us most fulfilled. They have made slaves of men and you ask why I lose dicipline. Would you be disiplined while being led by the masses to the gas chamber or would you feel like fighting it.

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  207. on July 17, 2009 at 3:09 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””””””’too late for romance
    The two of you make me ill with your lack of will and drive.

    Look on the bright side.

    More pussies who adopt defeatist attitudes just means less competition. I encourage defeatism because it helps the weak weed themselves out of competing for the things that really matter, like money and pussy.

    Life is too tough. Just give in and go with the flow. Why fight it?”””””””””””””’

    That was brutal and yet words of inspiration.

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  208. GNP said:

    While xsplat and a black dude may seem similar, there is one notable difference between the two :

    When a black dude is fucking an obese woman who is a 1 in looks, at least the black dude knows that the woman is a 1, and knows what a 9 is. He simply chooses to fuck the 1.

    Xsplat on the other hand, fucks 1s but actually thinks they are 6s. His scale is only 1 to 5 for the rest of us, but he adds 5 points. A 1 to us is a 6, and a 5 is a 10 to Xsplat.
    ……..

    Meanwhile, back in the real world, Xsplat IS NOT IN AMERICA. Got that? He is the hot foreigner, the other. He is also the relatively wealthy hot foreigner other. He is the relatively wealthy, hot foreigner other with a high opinion of himself.

    At that point, it’s pretty irrelevant whether he knows Game or not.

    In fact, it would be downright unfair if he did know it.

    As a very wise person said:
    “I don’t like fair fights, they are to easy to lose.”

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  209. The Finns, Norwegians and Danes all have a bit of a thing against the Swedes – it’s a big brother thing like a lot of countries have against the US. Having said that though, Swedes are fucking gay. There’s no such thing as real Alpha Swedes – just pretend wannabes. They have no idea about being cool – they can do fashionable, which means that all the guys where the same gay scarves on a Saturday night.

    They all spend a lot of time in the gym so they look good and they’ve all got tattoos but none of them strike me as being Alpha in any way. The first time I ever saw a fight in this town it was between immigrants (think they were Bosnians).

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  210. Firepower,
    I don’t see your point. Define ‘fading away’

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  211. on July 17, 2009 at 3:22 pm GNPs are for Apes

    Yes, xsplat lives in a place of so much poverty that women will sell themselves into slavery to a man with just an engineer’s income.

    Sure, poverty can be sad. But what is odd is that xsplat himself elevates 1s to 6s and 5s to 10s. Hence, he has hypnotized himself into thinking that the distortions of his environment are normal. Hence, he deludes himself into thinking “Hey, there was actually a 10 who liked me”, when it is really a 5 he is referring to.

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  212. on July 17, 2009 at 3:57 pm mandy been here a while

    PA

    I’ve a soft spot for Finns, I went to high school with a bunch and they taught me how to swear in Finnish(I grew up in a town with the largest population of them outside of Scandinavia)

    How can you tell an outgoing Finn?
    He stares at your shoes when he talks

    What is a German without the fantastic sense of humor?
    A Swede

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  213. on July 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm Gunslingergregi

    gnp there are no 1’s to 4’s where he is. The place is the real world where no one is propped up by artificial means. They are just human beings.

    You act like american woman can’t be taught to do everthing for their man. It is just the consequences of failure and the brainwashing that makes it bullshit.

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  214. Hah!

    How can you tell an outgoing Finn?
    He stares at your shoes when he talks

    What is a German without the fantastic sense of humor?
    A Swede

    What’s a perfect man?
    A combination of English soldier, French lover, Italian chef, and German engineer.

    The worst man?
    A combination of English chef, French engineer, Italian soldier, and German lover.

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  215. Hey dos anyone notice that Apeman spends a great deal of time in the doings of Black Men? For someone who has such bad things to say about Black Women, you’d think he could care less. Hmm. What’s up with that?

    O

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  216. You gotta check this quote on sweden:

    Inevitably, the subject turns to sex and marriage. I’ll never forget asking one group what they thought of marriage in a country where most educated young people (and half go to university) don’t get married or bear children until they are well over 30. A young woman gave me a thoughtful answer and so I asked her, “What are you looking for in a husband?” Without batting an eye or pausing for thought, she answered:

    “Three things. One, he must be good in bed. Two, he must be a good father. Three, when we divorce, he mustn’t be bitter.”

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  217. on July 17, 2009 at 6:39 pm GNPs are for Apes

    For someone who has such bad things to say about Black Women, you’d think he could care less. Hmm. What’s up with that?

    We’ve been over this, Obese-dian.

    Humor. H-U-M-O-R.

    Aren’t you supposed to be working on getting the fattest possible ‘sista’ for Norbit Alexander? Such a woman’s contact info exists in your Big Black Book.

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  218. Can we please forget the blacks and go back to Swede-bashing?

    Just for one thread?

    Please?

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  219. Hi Ape,
    Oh yea, humor! Ok, ok, I got it. Only problem is-no one’s laughing!

    You’re a real riot, Man. You gotta take that act on the road…

    O

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  220. @xsplat

    Thanks for your comment to my comment, the comment was appreciated. 🙂

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  221. Chic

    maturity, resources(money), the power a younger woman has on an older man, and you’ve finished most of your hoing.

    Ya, older guys are often perceived of as more ready to settle down. And ugly guys are also often seen as attractive, in that other girls are less likely to steal them.

    So an older ugly guy who acts alpha and has some form of high social status and is the bomb in bed? It can be an attractive package.

    And while ugly doesn’t wet the panties as fast as does handsome, an ugly face will grow on a girl, the more she gets used to it. Women learn to love the fugly they are with. Keeping her long enough to make that happen, turning the date into a romance – that’s the art I’m most interested in practicing. The art of living.

    Young guys, because they have lived less, are usually less artful in living.

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  222. woops – that’s Xsplat above.

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  223. I consolidated the thoughts I posted in this thread here

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  224. Sweden and the EU do a lot of things right… They beat the Puritanical Empire every time.

    Check out this video about the UK’s National Health Service and its “Orgasm a Day” campaign…

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  225. DG

    Firepower,
    I don’t see your point. Define ‘fading away’

    Not
    in front of
    your children

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  226. Markku:

    Incorrect. Since the 1970’s Sweden has had a large and growing immigrant population. Your description fits Finland or Sweden pre-1970’s much better than today’s Sweden.

    Read my other comment above where I wrote about this. Yes, I’m well aware that Sweden has large numbers of immigrants these days (I have several family members living there). However, as far as I can tell, their presence is still not felt when it comes to issues like the marriage and family law, and the Swedish legal system still operates pretty much the same as decades ago. Like in most other European countries, the immigrants are virtually invisible for the sorts of people that wield significant influence on such issues, and they certainly don’t let the immigrant customs and attitudes influence the way Swedes handle things. Whether and how this will change as the minority population increases, remains to be seen.

    Or do you know about some recent changes in Swedish marriage and family law due to immigration? (You’re Finnish, I assume, so you probably know better than me.) I’d be curious to hear an example.

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  227. @anon 9:29 pm- you summed it up perfectly.

    And while ugly doesn’t wet the panties as fast as does handsome, an ugly face will grow on a girl, the more she gets used to it

    I find this is the case with ugly of either gender. Someone the person become *less ugly* over time if he or she has a good personality. On the other hand, there is nothing like a pretty boy

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