Prettiness = Sense of Entitlement

There are many factors that contribute to a woman believing the world should fall in her lap (for example, being an American), but none are as important as how she perceives her looks compared to other women.  I’ve found that the prettier a girl is, the more she feels entitled to special treatment and unearned rewards.

I remember this conversation I had with a woman I had been sexing for a couple months.  She was a solid 8 and turned many heads, and more pertinently, she knew it.  I glibly brought up the subject of men paying for women on dates; she took my half-serious bait and offered her deep thoughts on the matter.

Her:  I would never date a guy who didn’t pay for me on the first few dates.
Me:  Is that a hard and fast rule?
Her:  I’m not saying he has to spend a lot on dinners or whatever, but he does need to pay for me.
Me:  Why?
Her:  Because that’s what guys do for girls they are interested in.
Me:  And what do girls do for guys they are interested in?
Her:  Give them sex!
Me:  But guys give girls they like sex, too.  Shouldn’t that be enough compensation?  It’s even steven!
Her:  That’s different.  We can get that from anywhere.
Me:  So guys have to bring twice as much to the table as girls — their sex and their money.  Sounds like a fair trade-off.
Her:  Every guy I’ve ever dated paid for me.  Why should I expect less now?

She had a point.  Why stop the gravy train?  After all, I paid for her, although I take some pride in the knowledge that I most likely invested much less monetarily in her than her previous suitors to get the same piece of ass.  It’s like finding an awesome pair of shoes at DSW for 70% discount when everyone else is paying full price — you feel like you got one over on the plebe consumers.

Clearly, pretty girls feel entitled to a man’s money in exchange for the pleasure of her company, where in this case “company” is defined to mean her ability to sit still on a bar stool or a dining chair for the date minimum of 15 minutes and hear the guy’s pitch.

Why do they have this sense of entitlement?
Because they can afford to.  Behaviors change only when there is incentive to change or disincentive to maintaining the status quo.  As far as I can tell, most guys have not abandoned the man pays paradigm, so the beat goes on and will continue to go on unless human nature changes.

Which brings us to today’s handy chart.  Here I will illustrate how a woman’s sense of entitlement varies with respect to her attractiveness.

Woman’s Hotness                    Her Sense of Entitlement
0                                    Must pay for sex with any non-homeless man;
                                      feels entitled to walk away alive from any sexual
                                      encounter.
1                                    Expects man not to call her a “dirty filthy whore”;
                                     “cuntface” is OK, though.  Doesn’t consider knifings
                                     part of foreplay.
2                                   Expects man not to shout out another woman’s
                                     name during sex or to forget her name less than
                                     10 seconds after she told him it.
3                                   Expects man to open eyes at least once during sex;
                                     also expects no less than 1.5 seconds of post-coital
                                     cuddling not necessarily face-to-face.
4                                   Thinks man should at least pay for his own drinks;
                                     she will make a polite but disingenuous move to pull
                                     money out of her purse first when the bill comes.
                                     He’ll call her bluff.
5                                  Thinks man should split the check with her, but she
                                    winds up footing the bill while he covers the tip;
                                    feels entitled to one date before getting harangued
                                    for sex.
6                                  Expects to be wined and dined at a 2 star establishment;
                                    Wants a man to hold out for two dates before prodding
                                    her vulva with inanimate objects.
7                                Expects to be treated to drinks, dinner, and a non-matinee
                                    movie;  wants the man to spend twice as much on her as
                                    she spends on him; will judge him based on which sushi
                                    restaurant he takes her to; expects him to deal with at
                                    least one of her flake fits; will not put out until he has
                                    paid for a minimum of 3 dates.
8                               Feels entitled to spend absolutely nothing on dates;
                                   becomes highly offended if man even suggests splitting
                                   bill; will regularly show up late to dates as if it is her
                                   prerogative; 4 star establishments only – accepts no
                                   substitutes; will not be picked up in a toyota camry or
                                  honda accord; expects man to perform at least
                                   three chivalrous acts; won’t put out until date six; will
                                  flake twice and expect the man to take it.
9                               Feels entitled to forget man’s name; won’t even say
                                  ‘thank you’ when man pays the bill; looks in the
                                 mirror more than she looks at her date; expects his
                                 watch to cost as much as her emu-skin purse; talks
                                 about herself incessantly except when she asks the
                                 guy about his credit limit/job title/stock portfolio;
                                 won’t accept less than $200 being spent on her on
                                 any date pre-sex; will walk out on date if man’s
                                 shoes don’t comply with fashion industry standards
                                 of the week.
10                             Will not settle for less than a first date aboard his
                                 private yacht – 50 foot+ class only; expects payment in
                                  the form of pink diamonds before putting out; feels
                                 entitled to do absolutely nothing in bed.
10+American            The federal government was invented to placate her.

Of course, what a woman expects from a man she’s dating and what actually turns her on to want to fuck the guy are two different things.  If you are an alpha male and have lived a day in your life, you know the best way to please a woman who is hard to please is… to not try hard to please her.

‘Opposite George’ comes to mind here.





Comments


  1. I disagree. While I do know a few girls that use their looks and assets to get free drinks and such, most of the women I know have no problem splitting the bill on a date.
    I put myself in the 7 or 8 range in looks and I always offer to split the bill or even cover a few dinners myself.
    Give us ladies some credit here. We are not after your money.

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  2. mm – it’s not just a man’s money hot girls feel entitled to; it’s also his infinite patience for her flakey behavior and ridiculous opinions. an entitlement attitude pervades all aspects of one’s personality.

    but like i said, if the guy knows how to handle women, this chart is irrelevant to him.

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  3. another brilliant chart!

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  4. On the other side, there’s the entitlement chart for men, too. While all of them seem to genuinely believe they are entitled to sex regardless of how attractive the woman is (comparatively), the ones in the 8-10 range expect women to put up with significantly more crap, too. Like his *need* for an *open relationship*.

    Of course, the value of something is really only that which people are willing to pay – so perhaps the ability to pull it off is what really puts someone in the 8-10 category?

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  5. Total agreement. Girls who need a man to shell out money to get with them may be missing out on some of the best sex. Poor men know how to do it too. My point is and has always been, when did sex stop being for pleasure?
    However
    It *is* nice to be told you’re pretty. That’s what I like to get from the man in my life in return for being pretty. It’s okay if he coos it over and over while I’m looking up at him during…you know. Makes a girl feel good. Then I coo about his muscles. It makes sense.

    But money for pretty, what is the corolation? Money for having a man’s babies. Money for shacking up (b/c why live with a guy if you wouldn’t be willing to have his babies.)

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  6. These charts are hilarious!

    Apropos, this posting’s timing coincides with an email that is getting wide distribution among bankers. Allegedly it’s an actual Craigs List posting of a 25 year old woman describing herself as “honest, spectacularly beautiful and classy”, looking for advice on capturing a man whose income exceeds 500K per year. She believes her beauty merits that income threshold. Her posting goes on in gory detail, deriding her female competition, and thumbing her nose at 250K per year as nothing more than “middle class” by NY standards. A response to the woman’s post by an investment banker within the same email is pure brilliance.

    I am forwarding the email. Enjoy.

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  7. I actually have a group of college friends who are all 8-9-and yes 10s…this is undisputed by anyone who has ever met them….they are unbelieveably good looking girls.

    They are all into sex and none of them “wait” 4 or 5 or 6 dates for sex.

    I think the whole “holding out until he gives me things” is bizarre and more likely to be something an ugly girl would do to compensate for the fact that she is less attractive. Maybe she thinks that if she waits to put out she is less of a slut and that is attractive in the guy’s mind?

    Who knows but no hot girls I know wait like that….its always my less attractive friends who expect more before sex.

    Its almost like men are more dispensable to hotter girls so they don’t NEED to wait…they can use you for sex and just go on to the next guy.

    BUT if you are an ugly or skeezy guy however and looking for someone above your rank (I cringe saying that because I think its horrible)…sure your stats are right on.

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  8. roissy can you please use your analytic skills for something else? these posts go right through my heart and kill any shred of romance i still have left in my soul. i almost want to stop reading, but something draws me back. it’s like all of the ugly truths are true, but they’re also not true. it depends what sorts of circles you’re running in. and there’s my sensitive side rambling.

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  9. DF- my lawyer friend just sent me that e-mail!

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  10. irina – why would you take a blog so purposefully and thoroughly skewed towards gratifying men in het relationships so seriously?

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  11. As much I enjoy some these charts and status outliers, most of these are DC-centric. In cities like Philly (a lot better than you might think), Portland, Seattle, Chicago, and Austin, status and money is not as big as a factor in dating. These cities have creative classes, meaning as a guy, you get hell of a lot more leeway for being in a band or a writer. Some of you who get all depressed about this should find another city.

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  12. Tweengene–As someone from a different city originally I agree with you 100%.

    DC is very shallow in every way. And its ironic bc so many people who are here are so dull and colorless and expect way more than they would ever give. I would take a poor artist who treats me well over a rich investment banker who treats me like crap anyday.

    Maybe that is cliche of me but its true. Most people here are not like that unfortunately.

    This is a power city. Barf.

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  13. Tweengene and KassyK, no doubt. you totally run into that all the time here. It gets annoying… especially after two years of hearing and seeing it all the time.

    Working in the creative field (art/internet/music) and not into politics, its almost a death knell. Well, especially if you aren’t a very ‘indie’-type of person (though, stereotypically, they are more “politically” active I suppose).

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  14. on October 4, 2007 at 9:08 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    ” As far as I can tell, most guys have not abandoned the man pays paradigm, so the beat goes on and will continue to go on unless human nature changes.”

    The beat will go on until we legalize prostitution and undercut the market for vagina. I am convinced this is why European women have better attitudes, they’re not selling vagina to the highest bidder like American women do.

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  15. on October 4, 2007 at 10:17 pm David Alexander

    I’m guessing the same would be true for my poor, living at home with my parents ass, here in New York in respect to finding women who might consider me to be remotely attractive?

    BTW, why isn’t there a bigger push for legalized prostitution here in the US?

    Bizzare Question: At the mall, I noticed a South American or European woman with high heels. Are these women more likely to wear high heels when compared to their American counterparts?

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  16. Your chart implies that the relationship between hotness and entitledness is always increasing. I’ve said it before, but that’s not true — the 9s and 10s (or maybe just 10s, I don’t know) are not the way you say. This is true of Americans at this level, the uber-rich international students I met in college, and those who I met in Barcelona.

    I think it patterns class behavior — that woman who thinks $250K is “middle class” reveals her atrociously middle class background by talking about how much someone earns. The same goes for her looks: I’d bet she’s an 8, 8.5 tops. If you’re at the top, you have nothing to prove, and thus act more nonchalantly. Would a Brazilian supermodel ever describe herself that way? Nah, she knows she’s among the elite. You can tell a lot from celebrity interviews — most are very humble, even though they know they’re hot.

    The right relationship would have entitledness increase as hotness increases up to 8, then turn around and decrease but not to 0…. I’d say it ends up at the whatever the entitledness value is for a hotness score of 5, maybe 6.

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  17. DA, there IS legalized prostitution in the US–right here in northern Nevada. Come visit us and try the experience yourself.

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  18. Sestamibi, I’d prefer somewhere a bit closer, and where the amount spent on flying to LV is justified with other non-sex activities.

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  19. I botched up my last post. It should read:

    Sestamibi, I’d prefer somewhere a bit closer, and plus, it would be nice to go somewhere the amount spent on flying there is justified with other non-sex activities. I’d be bored out of my mind in LV.

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  20. Yo, DA,

    Sestamibi said northern Nevada. LV is in the sourthern part. Quite a different land. Though, I don’t doubt you might get bored there as well… might be why prostitution is legal, everyone is bored and there’s nothing else to do.

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  21. “it’s like all of the ugly truths are true, but they’re also not true. it depends what sorts of circles you’re running in. and there’s my sensitive side rambling.”

    He is perfectly describing what feminists refer to as “the patriarchy.” Basically, a set of assumptions about the world and each sex’s respective place in it. It’s so prevalent that most people recognize it when they see it, but have never acknowledged it directly. And he describes it so exactly “Demanding American women who want ‘intimacy’ ” “Ugly older women who are no good for having children but still try to get laid” “Ugly men who DESERVE to get laid” “Nice, quiet, foreign women who rate being the mother of my children because they are so HOT and never ask for anything”

    I’m starting to think he’s a feminist Archie Bunker, playing the buffoon so the people who agree with him will look ridiculous.

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  22. And if the hot women are so objectionable, stop asking them out.

    Oh. Wait, then how could you ever collect enough “Hot girl” notches to be considered an alpha?

    Yes, I guess it is a problem…

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  23. on October 5, 2007 at 2:50 am Days of Broken Arrows

    DF,

    I heard about that Craig’s List e-mail on the Tom Leykis Show. Is there any link to it you can post?

    Thanks.

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  24. DA, yes things are a little slower here in the outback. However, my point was to show that it is legal in at least one state–even if it is inconvenient access from most major population centers. I agree with you that it should be legal elsewhere too, because the lack of competition makes it pretty expensive here.

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  25. I’ve actually considered going to the Bunny Ranch on a few occasions since it’s the best known of the brothels out there. The problem is that it’s not really worth paying all that money for air fare and car rental to do this.

    I’d kill for some cheap, legal prostitution. If anything, prostitution should improve relations between men and women since men can have their sexual needs met by the prostitutes, and their emotional needs met by normal women. It would free both men and women from the drudgery of their incompatible sex drives.

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  26. it’s not just a man’s money hot girls feel entitled to; it’s also his infinite patience for her flakey behavior and ridiculous opinions.

    I LOL’ed.

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  27. If you agree that this is a generalized trend, then you’re clearly missing something about what women want. Your assumption is definitely not true for me, and judging from the other comments here so far, I’m not the lone exception to some estrogen-driven rule.

    Now, I believe I’m an objectively attractive woman– and those of you who know me should keep your own assessments of my hotness in mind as you consider this– but I have always been uncomfortable with men paying for experiences that we share together. I don’t like the unspoken pressure that arises from letting a guy (whom I haven’t yet slept with/committed to in any meaningful way, yet who clearly has a sexual interest in me) pick up our $80 dinner tab. I know he wants to get in my pants, and if I’m still wearing them, it means I haven’t yet made up my mind about the kind of access I want this guy to have. The more I let him pay for things that I would normally either forego or pay for by myself, the more I’m establishing an implicit expectation that his investment in me will be rewarded in kind– and let’s be honest, most guys don’t want to be paid off in fancy hamburgers.

    In fact, I would argue that it’s precisely because of my relative hotness that I feel the need to maintain financial independence in budding romantic relationships. Because I’m cute (and I understand the critical role of sex in the male mind), I assume that when a guy initially expresses an interest in me, he’s probably already imagined rocking me with his reverse spider monkey. (Yeah yeah, and I’m sure he’d also love to hear my thoughts on Islamist political movements or common misinterpretations of Frost’s poetry, but definitely not as much as he wants to see me naked.) Once you’re aware that every suitor’s primary goal is to bed you (not an ignoble goal, per se), you start to become more mindful of how you can achieve your own ends (getting to know him better, feeling comfortable with him, deepening his interest in you) without sending him misleading signals about your immediate sexual intentions.

    So you see, financial independence is not about getting a guy to like me more, or making him wait a certain number of dates for sex– it’s simply demonstrating an awareness of what both parties are investing in the relationship and acknowledging what each person is hoping for in return. My refusal to let a guy spend money on me allows me to acknowledge our sexual tension (or even increase it) while maintaining control over exactly what and when I want to put out. I don’t like feeling pressured to relieve a guy’s load at the end of a date just because he dropped a load on dinner– yet if I don’t at least feel guilty for not doing so, then I’m not taking appropriate responsibility for the imbalance I’ve created in our sexual dynamic by encouraging him to spend all that money in the first place. I’m certainly not saying girls have to put out the second a guys puts up some cash, but I AM saying that girls need to realize that money has the same power/value for men as sex has for women. Ladies, your cunt is your currency.

    Look– I am a confident, intelligent woman, and I’ll be the first to admit that girls are not such incredibly special creatures that a guy should spend $100 just to bask in their magical light for a few hours. Let’s face it: when a guy does that, he’s investing in the holy grail of an unseen vagina, and if a girl lets that transaction happen without acknowledging to herself that “the troops are advancing on the drawbridge” (so to speak), then she’s completely delusional about the value of her own company and should be encouraged to pick up an equally hefty check on the next date. That said, if you’re masochistic enough to go on several more dates with a tease like this, you probably deserve to die poor with blue balls.

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  28. Touche Nikita.

    DoBA, I sent the email to Roissy perhaps he can use it as material for a future posting.

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  29. […] Prettiness and a sense of entitlement… […]

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  30. Two things.

    (1) I can’t believe no one else has caught this yet. but prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas – or anywhere in its home county of Clark, for that matter. That’s why business is booming in such desolate locations as Pahrump, over an hour’s drive away (counties are big here).
    (2) When I was 16, I probably would have agreed with the statement that prostitution could take care of men’s sexual needs. Now that I’m almost thirty, I realize that it just … can’t. Sex is usually better when there’s a relationship to go with it (although the occasional foray outside the relationship is great too), and – let’s face it – if prostitutes were the main source of sex, we men wouldn’t bother with the platonic relationships at all until we were close to the brink of death. That’s bad, because kids need fathers.

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  31. on October 6, 2007 at 4:14 pm David Alexander

    I think it’s been well established that the brothels are located outside of the main cities of Nevada.

    Sex is usually better when there’s a relationship to go with it (although the occasional foray outside the relationship is great too), and – let’s face it – if prostitutes were the main source of sex, we men wouldn’t bother with the platonic relationships at all until we were close to the brink of death. That’s bad, because kids need fathers.

    That’s only true when the girl is hot, slutty, and makes for a great sex partner. Otherwise, if she’s like 90% of the female population, she’s not hot, probably sexless and views sex as a chore like putting out the garbage, and makes for a poor sex partner.

    Given the fun that I had with my female friends, I would like a long term relationship with a female friend for emotional support, but I’d never have sex with any of them. They’d be quite useless at that. As for children, one can use the old sexless method of invitro fertilization for children to be born, or women can choose random sperm from various high ranking alpha males to raise. Just because there’s no sex doesn’t mean that men have no desire feel loved and desired from somebody or to have children. It’s 2007 and we have the technology to do those things without dealing with the incompatibility of the female and male sex drives.

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  32. David, the fatal flaw in your worldview is the fact that a slutty girl will quickly tire of you, and then deny you both sex and companionship.

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  33. […] difficult and intricate sexual relations into understandable broad assumptions. Some employ a point-scale and others abstract to racial or gender groups (e.g., Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus; […]

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  34. First of all, you only use the slutty girl for sex. Most slutty girls tend not be interested in developing relationships.

    Even if she did leave me, you just move on and you find another slutty girl to enjoy yourself with. Just don’t make the mistake of getting too attached. I almost had the platonic friend + slutty girl on the side set up once, but the platonic friend wanted more, and I wasn’t interested in giving her more while slutty girl wanted to get out of the slutty girl rep.

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  35. BTW, my worldview presumes the following theory:

    Both slut and nice girl will leave me (eventually) for a alpha male (e.g somebody richer/white/taller/better or shit, Roissy), thus, I should spend my time with the girl who has better sexual skills and output than the girl who with weaker sexual skills. The emotional skills from the girl would be useless because I’d become attached to her, and I’d feel sad once she leaves me super-alpha-mega man. Instead, get the emotional needs met from an emotional girl who sleeps with heartless alphas (e.g Roissy) to get her sexual needs met.

    The whole point is to maximize sexual and emotional needs, and using the same person to deliver both is impossible. Unlike most other men, I’m not going to tolerate this half-assed process, and I’d rather be alone with my porn than deal with a half-assed expensive “relationship” where the lack of good sex ruins the emotional portion of the relationship.

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  36. Just don’t make the mistake of getting too attached.

    Easier said than done. Sometimes someone gets too fond of the other person and it hurts to see them go.

    I wonder how Rossie goes through 100s of his girls and no emotional attachment ever seems to happen.

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  37. That’s the problem PA, in an ideal world, we would be able to pump and dump without much trouble, yet in the real world, even the most hardened can become fond of another and hurt when they leave.

    As for Roissy, I suspect that either he’s lying and exaggerating his claims or he’s pure evil. I think it’s the latter more so in his case…

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  38. johnny five–

    Legal brothels in only 10 of the “cow” counties in NV–Clark (LV) and Washoe (Reno) excluded, as also Douglas and Carson City, so that excludes counties including 90% of the state population.

    So yes, you do have to trek out to the boonies to get some. Whether it’s worth it I leave to those who have had the experience.

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  39. in an ideal world, we would be able to pump and dump without much trouble,

    We already have that – it’s called beatin’ off to porn or visiting a prostitute.

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  40. irina:
    these posts go right through my heart and kill any shred of romance i still have left in my soul.

    irina, do you think about the horrors of aging that are to come when you are kissing the one you love?
    neither do i.
    the capacity for self-delusion is a survival trait.

    drsnacks:
    irina – why would you take a blog so purposefully and thoroughly skewed towards gratifying men in het relationships so seriously?

    know your enemy.

    tizzy8:
    He is perfectly describing what feminists refer to as “the patriarchy.” Basically, a set of assumptions about the world and each sex’s respective place in it.

    i also assume gravity will stop me from floating into space.
    i haven’t been proved wrong yet.
    some assumptions adhere so closely to reality that the odd exception isn’t cause to invent convoluted alternative explanations.

    “Demanding American women who want ‘intimacy’ ”

    that’s never been one of my talking points.
    in fact, just the opposite.

    “Ugly older women who are no good for having children but still try to get laid”

    i don’t blame them for trying to get laid.
    i blame them for not lowering their expectations accordingly when they bitch and moan about it being so hard to find a decent man.

    “Ugly men who DESERVE to get laid”

    deservin’ ain’t got nothing to do with it.

    “Nice, quiet, foreign women who rate being the mother of my children because they are so HOT and never ask for anything”

    nice and quiet were not variables in my foreign girl formula.
    what was a variable was them being free of that giant chip on the shoulder that so many american women have.
    and which you prove over and over with every comment you make.

    And if the hot women are so objectionable, stop asking them out.

    false premise.
    accurately describing the sexual mating market is not the same as finding it objectionable.
    hth.
    may i suggest tizzy that you read my oeuvre a little more closely for comprehension.

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  41. nikita:
    If you agree that this is a generalized trend, then you’re clearly missing something about what women want.

    the hotter a woman gets, and thus the more entitled she feels to certain things from the men she dates, the more likely she is to demand payment in some form.
    this form does not necessarily have to be in coin.
    to illustrate, nikita, answer the following question:

    you are dating two guys equal in all respects except for their job status. neither man pays for you on dates. would you be more likely to put out for the

    a. doctor
    b. garbageman

    The more I let him pay for things that I would normally either forego or pay for by myself, the more I’m establishing an implicit expectation that his investment in me will be rewarded in kind–

    this is why i counsel men that it is in their interest to not pay for women before they have bedded them.
    it’s better to win a woman over with your personality than with your money, because money can disappear.
    your personality can’t.

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  42. We already have that – it’s called beatin’ off to porn or visiting a prostitute.

    Masturbating is okay, but everybody knows it’s a substitute for sex. Having sex with a prostitute is just masturbation inside of a vagina. Having sex with a girl who isn’t interested in having sex with you isn’t much fun, and being afraid of disease or being caught by the cops doesn’t make the experience that enjoyable.

    what was a variable was them being free of that giant chip on the shoulder that so many american women have.

    For the shits and giggle factor, what is this “giant chip” that you keep talking about, but are unable to explain about in details. I haven’t noticed it, IMHO, and most white women are down to earth and rather sensible. In contrast, I don’t think you’ve ever experiences the “joy” of dealing with a black woman…

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  43. Sigh. Irina. I think you missed the entire point of what I was saying.

    I SAID Roissy was accurately describing what many people think about relationships. I don’t argue with him. I think his descriptions are scarily accurate, actually. I just don’t want to date him or anyone else who thinks like him. There are a lot of people like him. There are also a lot of people who are less shallow.

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  44. Oh. Crap. I meant to address that to Roissy. I misread the top of the response and thought it was from Irina. Anyway, I don’t argue with your descriptions of the dating world. There are a lot of people like you out there. Not everyone, though.

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  45. on October 11, 2007 at 4:22 am bloggingbarbie

    my, caused quite a stir with this post! personally? i thought it was funny. nice chart, btw.

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  46. “you are dating two guys equal in all respects except for their job status. neither man pays for you on dates. would you be more likely to put out for the a) doctor, b) garbageman?”

    Woah there, tiger– I’m gonna have to call you on a flawed hypothesis. Show me a real-world example of a doctor and a garbageman who are “equal in all respects except for their job status,” and I’ll readily put out for a garbageman.

    I’m not suggesting that there aren’t down-to-earth, smart, funny, trustworthy garbagemen out there (or, for that matter– dull, unsophisticated, humorless doctors), but if the two men in your example truly have comparable levels of worldly experience, intellectual understanding, and personal complexity, then I’ll really have to wonder why one ended up as a garbageman.

    Maybe I’m a victim of the new-agey indoctrination that “you are whatever you think you’re worth,” but I maintain that belief in your own potential can get you almost anywhere. And no way are you going to tell me that the aforementioned modern man thinks his greatest purpose in life is collecting other people’s refuse. Status is something we accept just as much as something we aspire to.

    So perhaps, in the end, confidence is the one thing your garbageman lacks… And– call it what you will– that’s mainly what it takes to get into my pants.

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  47. Nikita – how bout a confident, cocky garbagemen or bricklayer or drug dealer, for that matter? There’s gotta be something else….

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  48. nikita:
    I’m gonna have to call you on a flawed hypothesis.

    nikki don’t lose my number
    you don’t wanna call nobody else

    Show me a real-world example

    granted there are few. but then a thought experiment isn’t invalidated because of a small sample size.

    then I’ll really have to wonder why one ended up as a garbageman.

    which is another way of saying, all else equal, job status is important to you.
    as it is to nearly all women, relative to their own sexual market value.
    now we’re just quibbling over the details of payment.

    “you are whatever you think you’re worth,”

    the talented mr. ripley agrees.

    I maintain that belief in your own potential can get you almost anywhere.

    i read that the dropout rate in socal high schools is over 50%.
    unbelievers, the lot of them.

    And no way are you going to tell me that the aforementioned modern man thinks his greatest purpose in life is collecting other people’s refuse.

    does incredulity cocoon you from the ugly truths?
    only the truly status-conscious question another man’s motives. beware limited thinking. perhaps he finds amazing personal fulfillment in disposing of society’s trash. perhaps it is his calling. i wonder why tibetan monks practice celibacy, but they seem to be pretty fulfilled with their purpose in life.

    Status is something we accept just as much as something we aspire to.

    status is all against all.
    aspirational sloganeering only serves to make the pill easier to swallow.

    So perhaps, in the end, confidence is the one thing your garbageman lacks…

    your end needs re-working.
    ceteris paribus.
    i stipulated that the garbageman had just as much overflowing confidence as the doctor.

    And– call it what you will– that’s mainly what it takes to get into my pants.

    so the answer to my leetle question is that you are just as likely to put out for a confident garbageman as you are for a confident doctor?

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  49. yep.

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  50. what about the hot girls with self esteem issues?

    or are we only talking about those that are aware of their worth?

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