The Elusive 10: Found!

The votes have been tallied and the verdict is in:

Paulina Porizkova was the only babe (in her prime) who got a plurality of 10 votes. Zeta Prime (nee Catherine Zeta Jones) came in a close second with a bare plurality of 9 votes edging out her 10 votes. Here is a better photo of the young Paulina:

Great Zeus’ beard. Her body may be a little too lithe for some of you, uh… drum and bass butt lovers, but there’s no denying her face is perfection. It simply doesn’t get any better than her when she was young. There may be equally beautiful women, but you’d have to search high and low to find a woman objectively *better* looking. Ric Ocasek, inarguably one of the ugliest men in the world, got to bang this ethereal beauty during her prime. He continues monopolizing her pussy today.

Look at their properly polarized body language. She truly loves him. And he her.

From Wikipedia:

Ric has been married three times; he married early in life, but divorced and was married to his second wife, Suzanne Ocasek in 1984. Ric was still married to Suzanne when he made the acquaintance of model Paulina Porizkova during filming of the music video for The Cars’ song “Drive” (directed by Timothy Hutton). At that time, Porizkova was just 19 years old and Ocasek was 35.

Five years after meeting, in 1989, Ocasek and Porizkova married. This was Ocasek’s third marriage, and Porizkova’s first. In 2009, the couple celebrated their 20th wedding anniversary and their 25th anniversary since they first met. Ocasek has a total of six sons, two from each of his three marriages.

Ric Ocasek is a super alpha. He has spread his seed far and wide, and enjoys the love of a beautiful woman. His fame, voice and catchy pop tunes whisked away his ugliness. No ugly woman with talent and fame can claim the same compensating appeal to men. Kathy Bates, a great actress with an ugly face and a fat body, once went on Letterman and lamented the trouble she had meeting men despite the advantages of her money and fame.

Ocasek hit the jackpot with Porizkova, which is why their marriage endures today after 25 years together. He really can’t do much better. Although, as Porizkova ages — and admittedly Porizkova started off her aging trajectory with such an overabundance of beauty that it might take a decade or two longer than the average woman for her to hit the wall — Ric may start feeling that old feeling again and eyeing little sluts with bad intent. I doubt he’d need much more game than taking a chick home and popping in one of his circa 1980s music videos.

Let Ric’s and Paulina’s love be a lesson, ladies. If you want a shot at winning commitment from an ugly-ass rock star, you had better be a 10 with a heart of gold. And preferably foreign-born.

Speaking of Porizkova, she recently had this to say about the occasion of her 40th birthday:

Former supermodel Paulina Porizkova has described the pain and frustration of losing her looks in the ageing process – insisting she has felt “invisible” since she turned 40 years old.

Porizkova shot to fame in the 1980s and became one of the world’s highest paid models, gracing the covers of the most high profile fashion magazines and spending seven years as the face of cosmetics giant Estee Lauder.

The 45 year old has stepped away from modelling in recent years, turning to TV instead with a regular role as a judge on America’s Next Top Model and a stint on Dancing With The Stars.

Porizkova now admits she misses her days as a model and feels “sad” her beauty has faded.

She tells the New York Post, “Nothing ages as poorly as a beautiful woman’s ego. When you have used your beauty to get around, it’s like having extra cash in your pocket. I was so used to walking down the street and having the young guys passing by at least give me a flicker of a look. But once you’re over 40, you become invisible. You’re a brick in the building and it’s sad. It just feels like the sun went down a little bit. It got a little cloudy outside.”

But the former supermodel is adamant she would not consider cosmetic surgery to regain her youthful appearance, insisting her former catwalk pal Janice Dickinson looks worse since she went under the knife.

Porizkova adds, “She was one of the most beautiful girls you’ve ever seen in your whole life. Now she looks like a transvestite.”

Another brick in the building. Any fat part of the bell curve women reading Paulina’s pained regret probably felt their hearts drop into their flabby stomachs. After all, if a ravishing beauty and former supermodel like Porizkova can suddenly become “invisible” to men at the age of 40, what hope do they have? Porizkova looks as good as a 45 year old woman can possibly look (she’s up there with Monica Bellucci for defying the hands of time), and yet even she has noticed the men’s eyes have stopped undressing her.

In comparison, this is where it is so much better to be a man. With an attractive lifestyle and a charming demeanor, a man can enjoy the lustful yearnings of younger women many more years than the average woman can expect to enjoy the pursuits of men, younger *or* older.

I have read that beautiful people suffer more psychologically from aging than plain-looking or ugly people, because they have more to lose. A twenty year deterioration can turn a hot babe into a barely recognizable hollow-eyed zombie of her former self, while an ugly MFer will still look pretty much like an ugly MFer twenty years later. The only thing unusual about Paulina’s observation of her rapidly declining sexual market value is her willingness to publicly acknowledge it. This marks her as a woman of excellent character.

Paulina is right about cosmetic surgery, too. The procedures aren’t good enough yet to slip past the quasi-tranny valley where aging broads surgically altered in the hopes of regaining their youthful glow instead resemble puffy bat-faced transvestites. Hopefully, science will advance on this front and true anti-aging breakthroughs will bless the world with more beautiful women for me to plunder.

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Some other notes from the “Elusive 10” voting:

Lollygirl got the most 7 votes. The person who submitted her pic as an example of a 10 clearly has a jones for natural redheads. Truth be told, so do I. Unfortunately, Lollygirl was a little too skanky looking to compete with the exquisite beauties on display in that post. May her lolly forever shine on suggestively. Too bad redheads may disappear from the face of the earth.

Seven of the girls got rated a 9. This demonstrates that wide agreement exists on what constitutes 8s and 9s, but once you attempt to nail down feminine perfection, you run up against a dividing line of growing subjectivity past which men have individualistic tastes, and that this taste likely differs based on race. The reason for the boisterous disagreement probably arises from the fact that 10s are simply too rare in the state of nature to have exerted much of a selection effect on men’s mental beauty templates.

10s are not 10% of the population. Whoever claims that is living in a bubble. Female beauty isn’t on a linear scale. 10s are no more than 0.5% of all women. Probably more like 0.01%. You people need to get out in the world to reacquaint yourselves with the sad fact that most women walking around day to day are repulsive warthogs. If you limit your visual scope to non-obese women between the ages of 15 and 25, then you can plausibly claim a lot of women are bangable 6s and 7s, but you’d have to have laser-like focus to erase from your peripheral vision the aforementioned warthogs.

80% of the voters were white. (Voters and readers are not necessarily identical sets.) I suspect, though I cannot prove it, that white men are more transfixed by female facial beauty than are black men, who tend to focus more on the voluptuousness of the female body.

9% of voters were Asian, which far exceeds their proportion in the American population. Perhaps they boosted Hyori Lee’s rank? Of course, some of those self-identified Asians may be subcontinental Indians, in which case Aishwarya Rai got the boost.

The Finnish race represented 2.65% of the Chateau votes. Finns are 0.0008% of the world population. A fling I had with a Finn chick (you can see her arm in this post) was a twilight zone-ish experience. Pleasurable, but weird. She had incredibly soft skin.

Blacks accounted for 4% of the voters. The black girl got 6% of the 10 votes, which means there’s some jungle fever going on! The Finns, gotta be them.





Comments


  1. on November 8, 2010 at 1:17 pm Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

    I still think Grace Kelly in _To Catch A Thief_ is a 10, and to me she beats out Paulina, Carole Bouquet or Audrey Hepburn in their respective primes.

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  2. Paulina seems like a classy lady. Ric is lucky to have her.

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  3. Reportedly the first time supermodel Cindy Crawford laid eyes on Paulina P. she asked herself “Why do I even exist?”

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  4. on November 8, 2010 at 1:38 pm Former server

    61 years old not bad.

    Kind of make it seem almost worthwhile to get your shit together.

    weed game in cali is gonna be hot when it is legal.

    he he he

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  5. I remember reading that Paulina was smitten at first sight of Ric. I wonder if it’s a matter of him being famous and a rock singer or if she was just wired that way. Surely, she met other rock stars and rich tards before that.

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  6. Can’t say that I am surprised. Paulina, in her prime, was an absolutely stunning woman, an unmatchable combination of a perfect face (check out those azure eyes), fantastic hair, and a great body (for proof, pick up an old copy of the SI swimsuit issue).

    Re: Ocasek,
    What a lucky bastard! And to think, he probably first sampled the goods when she was 19!

    Re: Paulina,
    More women need to look to her example. She exploited her beauty to the fullest when she was at her physical peak.Ladies, if you want to nail down a high quality man, do so before you hit 25.Remember, no man gives a damn how much money or status a woman has. Give a man a choice between marrying a waitress who looks like Jessica Alba and a 50 year old millionaire who looks like Kathy Griffin, and he will pick Jessica every time.

    RE:Black male preference for body over face,

    Can you blame them?No one, including Black people, likes Black female facial features.

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  7. One of my favorite music jokes was David Spade on SNL during his “Hollywood minute” bit. Shows picture of Ric Ocasek and says, “Ric – Why the long face?”

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  8. “The Finnish race represented 2.65% of the Chateau votes.”

    The fact that the leading, if not only, Finnish MRA blog frequently links to CR might go some way in explaining this phenomenon.

    “A fling I had with a Finn chick (you can see her arm in this post)”

    And a full facial picture of her appeared in another post. It was later taken down, in a characteristically chivalrous move by the Chateau proprietors.

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  9. Why are the uber-talented Beatles (well.excepting Ringo,maybe)so beta? Look at Pauls history. Anyway,kudos to Ocasek,I wonder what he does to keep his girl happy? Quote”…most women walking around day to day are repulsive warthogs.” LOL! But not really because most of us ignore and dont even register these women.

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  10. If you limit your visual scope to non-obese women between the ages of 15 and 25, then you can plausibly claim a lot of women are bangable 6s and 7s

    Yes. Men’s eyes naturally gravitate toward attractive females. If you only take into account the girls you notice, your perception will be biased. A majority of girls in their twenties are 5+, but the population as a whole is skewed downward.

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  11. Ocasek has a total of six sons, two from each of his three marriages.

    Even more proof that he’s alpha. When the girl loves you, her body chemistry favors XY sperm because she want to have a child that is a replica of her man.

    But when she’s ‘meh’ about you, the chemistry is biased toward XX sperm, just so she can get a girl, or a copy of herself.

    [Editor: I’ve read that beautiful couples have more daughters, whereas couples where the man isn’t good-looking but has high social status have more sons (eg: Ric & Paulina). This is presumably a Darwinian imperative to maximize the number of grandchildren, where our genes have “figured out” that hot daughters and socially dominant sons provide the best means to succeed in the reproductive sweepstakes.]

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  12. i guess i shoulda submitted a couple of latinas. there’s plenty of 10s in that bunch

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  13. I’ll add that it’s hard to appreciate or decide if a female is a 10 from photographs. In static pics we have more time to indulge in anal-retentive nitpicking.

    In person though, we see the woman in all her glory and are less critical. The way her hair flows, her graceful movements or lack thereof, the curves of her body, her voice, her feminine personality, how she looks in the morning without make-up (if we get the chance to see it). I love women who still looks pretty without make-up, an organic beauty.

    Put all these together and we can appreciate better the wonders of the female form, and are more willing to overlook flaws. Actually, mild flaws often enhance an otherwise beautiful woman that you know in person, as oppose to flaws that we see in photographs that we can isolate and dwell on (like Porizkova’s squarish jaw). Flaws, within reason, provide contrast and also give character to a women because it helps to keep her a tad insecure and humble.

    I’m not surprised at the results, although I think Zeta wuz robbed. That pic you posted of her in the poll was a 10! Most of the choices were right on target with how I voted, and even if they were off by a point, I can objectively understand why they were. It’s just more proof that female beauty is greatly objective. Universally so.

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  14. For example that pic you posted of Izabella Scorupco was pretty bad, in person in her younger days, I think most people would have given her at least a 9.

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  15. Interesting, I’ve read that fighter pilots have more daughters. As Specimen pointed out, these guys are probably emasculated betas because I’ve never met a liberal fighter pilot. Anyway, maybe instead of high g-forces scrambling the pilot’s swimmers, it’s cause pilots are the non-rock star rockstars out there and they grab hotter girls accordingly.

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  16. Paulina Porizikova very delishus.

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  17. Still Hot-
    Really?

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  18. woh i didn’t realize she’s actually 45. she is still quite pretty though for a 45 year old: http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/400_pporizkova_071127_pkramer_73253616.jpg

    but no where near where she was when she was younger. (hate that, it’s kind of tragic). what’s that french proverb? oh yeah: “aging is the revenge of the uglies.”

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  19. The black girl selection was terrible, the one black chick was a horribloe example of sexy black chicks

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  20. the face looks mannish, amazing eyes though.

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  21. Short video of Izabella Scorupco. A lot of makeup yeah, but she looks almost a ten here:

    what a face!

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  22. “Why are the uber-talented Beatles (well.excepting Ringo,maybe)so beta? Look at Pauls history. ”

    It’s true that Lennon and Mac, post 1969, were pretty much monogamous (well, except for that two-year period where JL left Yoko and screwed every woman he could). I blame satiety, mainly. J&P had screwed so many women in the Sixties that they were mainly interested in finding a loyal non-gold-digging woman, which they both got. The problem was the beta “my wife’s the best/woman of the universe” crap songs they wrote about it.

    have to admire Ringo, though. Ugliest Beatle by a mile, hottest wife (in her prime).

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  23. Paulina is the ultimate beauty….no doubt.

    Question to think about:

    Is the longevity of beauty ( aging well) a prerequisite for being a 10 or is 10 a rating that only applies to the moment at which the girl is beautiful.

    This leads to another question:

    How would we know whether someone will age well or not. Perhaps there are factors that might influence the aging processes? I guess it’s all probabilities not certainties.

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  24. I don’t know Ric personally, but I guarantee that even as hot as Paulina Porizkova is (she’s gets my “10” vote,) he was still strayin’, even in their younger days.

    There’s an old saying, “Show me a hot woman, and I’ll show you a guy who’s bored of fucking her.” There’s just no helping it. Heck, it’s what my blog is based on.

    Even in my own case, I married a very hot woman (honest Injun, I really did,) but after a couple years, it’s just too difficult to not want some variety. So believe it or not, in the early days when I started cheating, what I craved most was women who were a little chubby, I believe because my thin wife was not. Funny, once I bagged a chubby girl, my standards were reset and I again lusted after perfect bodies.

    I also wanted different hair colors, etc. It’s just programmed into us (me at least) to want variety.

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  25. One other thought – Lollygirl is kinda growing on me. Come to think of it, it has been ages since I boned a natural redhead . . .

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  26. Fail. You guys are old. Too old. on top of asking ethnicity you should of asked age. I don’t find that lady attractive and don’t even know who those ppl are. You should of added more ethnicity in the pics. The chick is pasty and homley.. No big eyes no big lips…FAIL

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  27. on November 8, 2010 at 2:45 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    I’ve read that beautiful couples have more daughters, whereas couples where the man isn’t good-looking but has high social status have more sons (eg: Ric & Paulina).

    This is one of Satoshi Kanazawa’s theories and it was falsified. I am a big fan of ev psych (Steven Pinker, Robert Wright, Greg Cochran, David Buss, Matt Ridley etc.) but Kanazawa really does exemplify everything the critics of ev psych say is wrong about it, Just So Stories and all.

    P.S. I’m back. At least as a commenter.

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  29. My dad agrees. He bought her Sports Illustrated calendar 24 years ago.

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  30. Even more proof that he’s alpha. When the girl loves you, her body chemistry favors XY sperm because she want to have a child that is a replica of her man.

    But when she’s ‘meh’ about you, the chemistry is biased toward XX sperm, just so she can get a girl, or a copy of herself.

    [Editor: I’ve read that beautiful couples have more daughters, whereas couples where the man isn’t good-looking but has high social status have more sons (eg: Ric & Paulina). This is presumably a Darwinian imperative to maximize the number of grandchildren, where our genes have “figured out” that hot daughters and socially dominant sons provide the best means to succeed in the reproductive sweepstakes.]

    As someone who is involved with real science on a day to day basis, I just threw up in my mouth a little.

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  31. @ Riff

    Variety is a motherfucker.

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  32. Re: Paulina’s ranking,

    Paulina aged 15-25, compared to all other 15-25 year old women: perfect 10.

    Paulina aged 45, compared to all other 45 year old women: 11. Seriously, she is off the charts for a woman in her age bracket.

    Paulina aged 45 compared to all other women in the 15-25 bracket: Still a solid 8, a very remarkable accomplishment.

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  33. I was one of the black voters and I didn’t vote for the black chick being a 10. I’m also a woman.

    I’ve seen more beautiful black women than the one in the photo. I think I called her an 8.

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  34. on November 8, 2010 at 3:03 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    Her body may be a little too lithe for some of you, uh… drum and bass butt lovers

    Assuming that picture of a girl’s body you posted is your ideal, the ideal for most men would seem to be about 5-10 pounds heavier than yours.

    Note that this should not give much comfort to fat girls.

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  35. Actually, Huffington Post & lefties all swooned over Paulina’s spew at other women trying to stay young with help of plastic surgery ….

    Somehow her whining about feeling ugly now was a good thing.
    I don’t think it marks her as having “excellent character.”

    Just seems whiny and classless.

    Thinking of truly great beauties, they’ve had a sense of cool demeanor and would talk trash about other and also try and make others feel sorry for them.

    Random anecdote:
    I was shopping in NYC’s Chelsea Bad Bath & Beyond about 5 or 6 years ago and Paulina was shopping there too.

    At first I was excited because here was a model I had thought was amazingly pretty when I was a kid growing up.

    But my awe quickly turned to derision when I witnessed her mannerism. She wanted some information on some random home appliance and was incredibly snotty towards one of the employees.
    She also kept looking around like she wanted people to notice her. Um in Manhattan, no one notices Celebs.

    She looked very withered and drawn and wasn’t putting effort into looking hot or even fashionable. So she already hit the wall in her late 30s.

    Yes, I was aware she was basically a NY stay at home Mom, but she has a an attitude and arrogance that didn’t make her attractive in person.

    Very disappointed.

    Reading her recent snarky interview, just reinforces the negative opinion I formed from seeing her in the flesh several years ago.

    There was no point in saying such catty things about other models/celebrities.
    She’s ugly inside to be so mean with her words, no heart of gold. And that shows on the outside.

    Monica Belluci on the other hand is still hot as hell and exudes a lot of attraction.
    Plus she has to have uber amazing genes, because she had both her kids very very late and naturally.

    http://www.hotpoa.com/2008/10/monica-bellucci-photo-gallery-1.html

    Anyway, I will opine that putting Blondie Boathead girl’s head on Bodfromthegods = Perfect 10.

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  36. I’m clearly not seeing the same thing others are in Monica Belluci. She looks slightly more voluptuous than top-tier beauties generally are, and her face is very … commoner, without that something special and radiant that marks a Ten.

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  37. There’s a lot of grown crack babies voting I see. Again WHERE ARE THE DIMES? These girls are like Ceelo 4, 5’s and 6’s. Just AVERAGE. Purely disgusting.

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  38. She’s just vanilla to me. Sure she’s good looking, but no higher than an 8. In the second picture she looks alright, but in the first, she just looks like a fairly attractive, stuffy brunette white girl.

    Lee Hyori, Aishwarya Rai and at least 4 or 5 of the other women are much hotter than her.

    She’s far from a perfect 10. If she was in a bar full of 8.5’s and 9’s, I wouldn’t even look at her until I got rejected by at least 5 other women. She’s what I’d describe as a hot plain jane, if that makes any sense.

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  39. At age 45, it is now payback time for Porizkova; being tethered to an aging man. No amount of charm will keep his dwindling mental and physical faculties at bay. While other 50 year old women may continue recreation, skiing, climbing, dancing, she’ll be visiting him in the rehab after his hip replacement, his post-UTI discitis, his glaucoma surgery, and prostate surgery. His erections have withered.

    Ex: catherine zeta-jones . How’s that old guy husband working out for her?

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  40. I don’t think Paulina Porizkova is special. Monica Bellucci, Catherine Zeta-Jones, and Megan Fox (Transformers 2 Megan Fox) all look better than her. In fact, I would say that you can’t find anything closer to facial perfection than Bellucci and Zeta-Jones.

    “I suspect, though I cannot prove it, that white men are more transfixed by female facial beauty than are black men, who tend to focus more on the voluptuousness of the female body.”

    More transfixed by facial beauty? Perhaps white men are just more beta than black men. If given the choice between a 10 face and a 6 body or a 6 face and a 10 body, most black guys would choose the latter FOR THE SMASH. When it comes down to commitment, most black guys would choose the former, as would most men. But if white men are indeed “more transfixed by facial beauty” than black men, it’s probably because the beta core of so many white men causes them to favor a pretty face, which inspires commitment, over a voluptuous body, which inspires all sorts of depravity. At this point in my life, I opt for the depravity.

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  41. anonymous

    At age 45, it is now payback time for Porizkova; being tethered to an aging man.

    uh, in case you have not noticed, everybody ages.

    calling into question a successful 25-year marriage between a rock star and supermodel is most…

    odd

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  42. I don’t care how alpha you are. Dating a woman with an ego raised to such stratospheric heights through fame will only bring torment. I’ll take a country girl 8 over an IMG model 10 that’s been on a few dozen magazine covers.

    The sweet naivete of the former makes a LTR much more manageable. The process of making it to the top changes you, and so does staying there.

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  43. Holy crap!!

    Give her another 5 yrs (or less makeup) and she will look EXACTLY like my Russian physics teacher back in high school.

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  44. I think anonymous is hating on the old-guys with game and high status.

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  45. “”Her body may be a little too lithe for some of you, uh… drum and bass butt lovers”””

    A great thing about a body with good genes is that it CAN be molded and turned sexy. Paulina Porizkova has natural curves, so all I need is to feed her meat+milk and make her do ass-to-grass Squats, lunges and RDLs.

    In 6months she will have a firm ‘n bouncy bubble-butt with 0 celutile.

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  46. The more I ponder the Ric “ewww he’s so odddd” Ocasek thing, the more I view him as not that terribly odd.

    He has blue eyes, a full head of hair, dresses well, is TALLER than PP and has a lot of money and fame. What else does he truly need.

    For his body type, put a Lakers jersey on him and he wouldn’t seem odd at all.

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  47. Iron law of biomechanics:

    A Black/Negroid* 10= a White/Caucasoid (Bollywood style Indian beauties fall into the Caucasoid spectrum, as do White and Castizo Hispanics) or Asian/Mongoloid 8.

    Re:Paulina’s “bitchiness,”

    Nothing is sweeter than taming a shrew. Further proof of Ric’s massive balls.Imagine the tumescence induced by watching a dominant female submit to your mastery.

    *Special caveat for East African women, with their Caucasoid (cf. Iman, etc) facial features.

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  48. on November 8, 2010 at 5:21 pm dante culpecker

    lol she was the first one kicked off of dancing with the stars when she was a contestant . . . which i couldve bet on that one, i called it when i learned she’d be on

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  49. Ric Ocasek, inarguably one of the ugliest men in the world,..

    Lemmy from Motorhead disagrees with you.

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  50. on November 8, 2010 at 5:44 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Those of you who believe that game is the end all be all should take notes.

    Dudes who lock down top shelf women have some combination of wealth/status/power. Sure, you might be able to temporarily talk your way into her panties by taking advantage of her evolutionary programming, but if she’s “all that” you can rest assured that the only way you’re going to keep her around is if you can walk the walk.

    Game is a blessing to all men, but it should not the only gun in a man’s arsenal.

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  51. on November 8, 2010 at 2:46 pm Lawyer from Hell

    In the original post, CH expected at least one of these women to garner 60% of the male vote as a ten and could thus be called a “ten.”

    Yet, even this woman, and she indeed is beautiful, only garnered around 40% of the vote as a ten.

    So there really isn’t a “universal” ten. There are just beautiful woman somewhere near that perfection.

    And I completely agree that a woman of that beauty is indeed rare, if you took women, lets be generous from 18-30, 60% of them would fall into the 3.5 to 6.5 range, the 2-8 range would be 98.5 of all women.

    The less than 2 and greater than 8 would be only 1.5% of all women. With all the fatties out there, I suspect this curve is shifting downward too.

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  52. You don’t get the Paulina/Rick coupling until you realize they are both Czech. Quite a few people are hardwired to be attracted to like genetics…. they love themselves and the thought of perpetuating their union with genetic reproductions (kids) is the tingle that keeps them together. The fact that either would be hardpressed to find high quality alternatives in their ethnic/genetic category would also be helpful in maintaining a longer term relationship

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  53. Getting 10s is all attitude.

    I am banging a 8.5 Bulgarian 26 yo for 4 mos.

    Her cheekbones and perfect body would make 96% of you weep. I would post a pic if this cooment box allowed it.

    She was fading on me for 3 weeks. So I ignored her for 1 wk, blew her off on halloween. Then sent a hail mary txt saying it was time for her next orgasm session.

    Like clockwork txt worked. I kept Sat night open. Txted her @ six, saying I was in mood for sushi.

    She says will call @ 9. She does. Is with GF having drinx/pizza. I defer till 11, order Indian/ Chicken Tikka & Watch Kill Bill.

    @ 11 she frees up, Drives downtown NYC and we meet.

    Comes over to my pad “to use bathroom first”. Asks for a drink. Then gives me a monologue about how I dont have the lifestyle she wants (ie,dont drop $$$ on clubs, dinners, bottle service, trips) Adds my clothes are not top notch. I buy budget Ben Sherman mod style (fraction of Ted Baker or Gucci, same style) do splurge on Prada loafers.

    I listen. Split my last 8oz bottle of Tonic water, make myself a G&T. Prop her up on my kitchen counter, and start feeling her tits, ass, pussy, and whip out my cock.

    Key: I was patient, not defensive, or on edge. I had relaxed all day with my Car; had a nice dinner, and was ready to fuck.

    In under 30min. had her stripped and spread her on granite counter and fucked. Then moved to my mid-century leather Knoll bench which btw is perfect for fucking doggie.

    She came & so did I.

    She was running game; I was scoring.

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  54. There’s an ancient rock video with a very young Paulina Porizkova without makeup (and long boots to mask her short legs.) She was ugly. She looked far worse than any other bare-faced supermodel.

    Porikova’s success depends on her makeup artist. She may have the perfect bone structure, but only as a blank canvas for makeup to paint a face on.

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  55. arguing over who’s a ten gets pointless after a while.

    when do we get the official CR take on this little gem?
    My son is gay

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  56. She’s got nothing on Monica Bellucci, the modern day Venus.

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  57. So Paulina fixed her teeth. Nice

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  58. The self-awareness and honesty displayed in that comment of Porizkova’s is remarkable.

    I wonder if this relates to your recent post about the “Training of the Shrew.” This super-alpha woman married (quite young) to a super-alpha man. Now she’s hitting the wall and realizing that she is becoming sexually invisible.

    Rather than living in denial it like a terrifying nasty scag trying to be sexy: http://bit.ly/9Ieft8 ….

    Or rather than blaming human nature on the evil patriarchy like some aging Jezebel harpy….

    This woman greets this life change with the appropriate response: wistful, accepting sadness. She knows she can’t do anything about it; she knows that plastic surgery is a stopgap at most and a travesty (transvesty?) at worst; and she knows better than to compound it by raging like a spoiled brat at the universe.

    Old women do have value, just not sexual value. If they spent their lives being happy and feminine, an old woman can be sweet, loving, comforting, and a source of happiness and stability for younger people.

    There will be precious few *good* old women in the near future. Most of them will be the most horrible, self-loathing, other-loathing beasts imagineable — the products of a lifetime of feminism.

    Ugh… I just depressed the hell out of myself.

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  59. My 10 votes went to Porizkova and the Yoga girl.

    But my curiosity is piqued…where does my current favorite (and really, the only reason to watch ‘Community’…admit it) rate?

    I say 9.5-10, not quite Porizkova in her prime but damn close.

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  60. on November 8, 2010 at 7:40 pm betondo fuchatuch

    Great analysis. Nothing better (on the www, that is) than strong, well thought out opinions buttressed with equally strong data drawn from a well-prepared study.

    By the way, editor – have you given thought to the ratio of people with straight-up, no frills, politically incorrect, kiss my ass if you don’t like it commentary (people like yourself, with original, untainted opinions) to the masses who wait patiently for one of you individuals to pipe up, so they can eloquently (or not so eloquently) puke their response? There’re entire freaking talk/tv shows (with panels!) devoted to discussing the opinions of the opinionated. My guess is 1:500,000.

    And yes, as a black man we are more inclined to the body than the face (but unfortunately the stereotype of brothers who go for the beer bottle balancing booty with no regard for the face gloms on to all of us).

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  61. She’s pretty. However, I have to give my sole perfect 10 vote to Japanese goddess Mai Nishida. IMO, it is impossible to get prettier than that.

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  62. Instead of learning from this apex alpha, the metrosexuals are making fun of his looks. Yeah, let’s compare credentials: Billionaire Rockstar with 6 sons from three different Supermodels : Metrosexual herb who asks out girls behind the counter.

    How about a post on what are and internalizing this guy’s beliefs.

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  63. Incredibly beautiful at 19, but didn’t age that well. A lot of girls at 45 will top her now.

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  64. Instead of learning from this apex alpha, the metrosexuals are making fun of his looks.

    True that. Most of us don’t get it because we are chasing the wrong things to attract women, so we get shocked by what actually works.

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  65. I don’t rate her, she’s got a strong jaw line and has thin lips. In all honesty, there’s prettier chicks in my neighbourhood alone.

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  66. Awwww poor Paulina …. this is how I feel about her current plight with getting older …

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  67. “….with bad intent.”
    “….another brick…”

    Do I detect song references?

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  68. Ric Ocasek looks like an old lesbian. And I STRONGLY suspect his hair originally belonged to some dead Chinese woman.

    Now maybe his personality is dominant enough to keep Paulina hanging on him . . .

    . . . or maybe they have a good-looking pool boy.

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  69. Ocasek may be considered Alpha by definition, but man… undersides of catfish have better colour and I’ve formed turds that are more handsome.

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  70. I caught a few episodes of “Dancing with the Stars” when she was a contestant.

    She seemed like a very cool broad: well-spoken, self-deprecating, gracious, and equipped with good comic timing. She had the vibe of being a nerd who just happens to be good-looking.

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  71. I think Paulina in her prime was one of the best looking women ever. but dare I say it… she has what you guys call man jaw .

    Oxana Fedorova has the same coloring but is better looking if you ask me.

    paulina on film

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  72. It’s not often the world seems like a better place because of one woman’s beauty, followed by a way of talking that is just as beautiful – stunning in its honesty and complete lack of feminine solipsism. There isn’t even any spite in describing her cosmetically altered friend as looking like a transvestite – its the ideal word for a sad, plain truth. There is a little of the man in this woman – and she is so much better for it.

    Did I say ‘not often’? I should have said ‘never before’.

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  73. Yeah, what a super alpha. What people living in America don’t understand anymore is that you don’t have to be a super alpha on steroids to get a good girl. You just have to be a man true to your nature. The difference here is that this guy has money, status and lifestyle which matches with her looks and status. I’m pretty sure a man like this does not ‘game’ his wife 24/7, he looks like a lesbian for Christ’s sake. I’m sure he listens to her when it’s appropriate and I’m sure they’ve grown together, willingly or not. They have the same background and probably similar cultural feelings which probably do not include whoring around and breaking up at the slightest hint of trouble. In other words they are compatible. Few men could match his lifestyle, so she doesn’t have to leave out of boredom or for money.

    American mentality is so childish and prone to extreme thinking. Yes, a man should be a man and a woman a woman. Beyond that it’s just a personal learning experience. You don’t have to ‘figure out’ women and know them, you just have to know yourself. What’s led to the cesspool that American society has become is the excessive artificiality of it. People don’t know how to act anymore because they are suppressed. There has been a concerted effort to create a sub-class of proles that will support the consumerist economy. These proles should not think, feel, or act out inappropriately. It’s a class war, as it has always been, but this time the propaganda machine is much more powerful. Nobody spoke out when the ship started sailing towards dangerous waters and now we are so far into the storm that we don’t know our bearings any more.

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  74. A ten?

    Right eye is far bigger than her left (I understand most woman have this however, we are talking “10” here), her Jaw looks like Ivan Drago’s, and look at the receding hair line.

    I’d give her a seven at best.

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  75. i agree so much
    Paulina has nasty
    too-pointed elbows

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  76. mr. c

    haha, well said .

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  77. I am not gay but prefer a more shapely (e.g hourglass) figure woman. Give me a woman with a porn star build over a bony ass high fashion model.

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  78. It is very odd to see a writer who constantly gripes about “man jaws” hold Porizkova up as the epitome of feminine hottness.

    With her height, angular body, and formidable chin, Paulina could easily impersonate a man (or at least a teenage boy.) Why do you think she’s afraid of looking like a transvestite if she gets cosmetic surgery? She knows she already has some masculinity in her features, and it wouldn’t take much to move her into the tranny valley. She scored highest in your poll only because you wrote “flawless” under her picture.

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  79. Seriously? I ‘ve seen way hotter girls than that.

    Her expression says “are you as mystified by my beauty as I am”?

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  80. shes hot, but now that i look at her the man jaws disqualify her as a 10. a solid 9 though.

    i wonder what most guys definition of a 9 or 10 is

    for me, maybe top 1-2% of women are 9’s, top .05% are 10’s

    not that im that picky in real life, but my 1-10 scale is much more like an exponential scale than a linear one

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  81. On a related note, I recently wrote this:

    The Score for Men

    * Height
    * Intelligence
    * Shoulders
    * Waist
    * Some Muscle
    * Middle-Class Money or above
    * Social Proof / Fame
    * High-Status Job
    * Good Looks
    * Personal Behavior / Game

    Each is worth one point out of ten. So what’s your score?

    More at my new site.

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  82. Personally I prefer Famke Janssen as Xenia Onatopp, hot lust murders just do it for me.

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  83. So she’s a plurality 10 who averages a 9.1.

    Lends support to the theory that there no universal 10s.

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  84. “The Score for Men”

    That’s fairly insightful, even the little details like +1 for MBTI N for a female N. I’m impressed.

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  85. on November 9, 2010 at 3:24 am Georgie Porgie

    “Lollygirl got the most 7 votes. The person who submitted her pic as an example of a 10 clearly has a jones for natural redheads. Truth be told, so do I.”

    So do I. Pretty ones:

    http://bit.ly/a7CPkc
    http://bit.ly/bGzzqg
    http://bit.ly/cFQwPx
    http://bit.ly/bBm0LF
    http://bit.ly/bnZ6lu
    http://bit.ly/cciuJX

    Paulina is uncontestably gorgeous. Still, I’d rank both CZJ and Aishwarya above her (of that lot).

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  86. Paulina & Ric Topless …. Twilight : The Geriatric Years.

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  87. I call bullshit on the part about cosmetic surgery. Getting an ugly person to look beautiful may not be achievable, and keeping an older woman looking young may not work, but at least for men, surgery can keep a good looking man looking younger and aging more gracefully into his 40s and even 50s. Look at Keanu Reeves, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, George Clooney, and to a lesser extent Brad Pitt. These are men near or past 50 who look at least 10 years younger than they actually are. 99.9% of men can’t afford the skilled surgeons these guys see but it IS doable.

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  88. As someone who has banged a Czech girl, I was not surprised to see the familiar “ova” surname 😀

    Overall, this post gives me hope. Very impressive. I hope Ric doesn’t dump her when she’s 50 though, even as far as biological imperatives go it would be just ridiculous of him (and raise ASDs everywhere around the world).

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  89. A couple of years ago I was talking to a dude that had been to Prague , the capital of the Czech Republic.

    He claimed that he had never seen so many attractive women and so many ugly men in the same place.

    It turns out Ric Ocasek is of Czechoslovakian heritage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric_Ocasek

    Something extra that probably worked in his favour.

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  90. Also , for a small place with a population of only around 10 million , the former Czechoslovakia ; now Czech Republic has produced what could be a disproportionate number of female pornstars and models.

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  91. I agree, a perfect 10!.

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  92. Paulina may have won in her prime, but there’s no doubt that CZJ has aged better, at least up until about a year ago. Catherine circa 2008 still had a reasonable degree of beauty, given her age. Paulina is now firmly in hag territory.

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  93. I knew a man who worked with Paulina in the early ’80’s, he was an art director for a bathing suit company that used her in their ads (overseas). He said that she was very intelligent, but a real bitch, and not a very nice person. Elle McPherson, however, he thought was much better looking in person, and much nicer, but as he put it:”She has the brains of a brick! It’s painful to talk to her, she’s so stupid!” But she was his ideal of feminine physical perfection. Just my .02…..

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  94. O yeah, I just saw that picture posted by That Guy – unimpressive tits ( Porizkova’s, not his if you’re wondering )

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  95. CH is approaching Steve Sailer in blogging eminence
    since like Steve he can claim: “I’m big in Finland”.

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  96. About older men and younger women marriages and the guy getting old and feeble. Depends on the age spread. Woman fail physically much sooner than men (must involve hormones falling off sooner) but live longer (again, likely due to less hormones). Just think about osteoporosis in Asian and Caucasian females. So, guys, never marry an older woman.

    The younger wife can always take a lover when her older husband gets feeble. Who would criticize her? I certainly hope her husband would be understanding.

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  97. Re: Silver Fox and screwing that girl.

    That story is a perfect example of why successful, attractive men use prostitutes. Who the hell has that much time to waste to lay a woman?

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  98. I just wanted to say, in regards to all this beauty stuff, that the Golden Ratio has been widely proven to help determine beauty. Both in face and body.

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  99. I voted for Paulina as a ten. She is a stunning beauty. It does seem to be that some traits that make a girl a ten do not seem to ensure that one ages well. For example Cindy Crawford, while beautiful, was never as stunning as Paulina. Yet, she has aged much much better. It seems to be kind of a trade-off for some, especially us Mediterranean girls.

    Paulina came off very well in that interview. I liked that she was not delusional. I can appreciate that her fading beauty must mean that she experiences the world in a completely different way.

    I have become a little bit more aware of this since reading the Chateau and I do wonder how much niceness is directed at me because humanity is inherently good and how much because I am cute.

    I also wonder how much more difficult the world will be when I am older. Will the cop who let me drive home after he could have arrested me for DUI still do so when I’m 40? Was he nice or did he feel sorry for me? Or was he expecting a bang? Is the guy who gives me 50% discounts at my local lunch place just being subversive towards ‘the man?’

    You know, you guys here talk so much about women erroneously believing that they are the center of the universe….it’s partly men’s fault. We wouldn’t think we were so special if we weren’t treated as thus. And frankly, I am not some great beauty, just a cute girl. Can you really fault the 9s and 10s for being pure unadulterated ID?

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  100. @Lost,

    Gould is a joke, especially among actual scientists.

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  101. Yeah. Back in the 80s she was the shit. A perfect ten. I had a huge crush on her. She would come into the place I worked at all the time to look at the fashion rags and books. Then she started coming in with Ric and then stopped coming altogether.

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  102. “A Black/Negroid* 10= a White/Caucasoid (Bollywood style Indian beauties fall into the Caucasoid spectrum, as do White and Castizo Hispanics) or Asian/Mongoloid 8.”

    @Syon

    Whenever someone “tourettes” a personal version of

    “White girls got no ass”
    “Black girls are too manly”
    “Asian girls look like boys”

    I always tell them the same thing…You really need to get more pussy than you have been getting.

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  103. [email protected] as a “real critic” of ev psych

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  104. Mr. C

    A couple of years ago I was talking to a dude that had been to Prague , the capital of the Czech Republic.

    He claimed that he had never seen so many attractive women and so many ugly men in the same place.

    All use Hostels.
    Czech girls, most Hungarian girls -and ALL rumanian girls drink blood of wirgin. They are Nosferatu – wampyre.

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  105. “Read up on the hunter gatherer tribe of Hadza’s mating study concluded a year ago. A little blow to “universal mate choice patterns”

    @Lost

    LMAO. I’d surely bang a fat chick if stuck in a mine for 60 days, but that doesn’t mean shit about my body preferences. All these conclusions based on studies of the mating “choices” of some tribe numbering <300 who eats dirt to stay alive is bullshit. In a modern society aka the land of plenty where I can get pussy close to my ideal, my true preferences are revealed.

    A scientist who is TRULY interested in the universal will ask "Who do you want to fuck?", not "Who are you fucking right now?"

    [Editor: Well said, EA.]

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  106. Hmm. These results kind of surprise me. To me, this just demonstrates how subjective it is. I thought her face (and all we had was a face shot) was too angular and so I didn’t rate her that high (if I remember, 8?).

    For the record, I thought “Cocked-head girl” was the only 10. (OK, I don’t know what 10 really means, but this was an opportunity to just exercise intuition on the matter, right?) I thought Bollywood and Cocoagirl were the 2nd and 3rd best, respectively. And I don’t consider myself a hyper discriminating guy or anything.

    Now I realize from the comments that most of the guys who saw Paulina here simply recognized her face and made their judgment based on their total mental memory gallery (having now seen other images of Paulina, I can upgrade my ranking to 9, but the face still doesn’t melt me particularly; it just reminds me of a Virginia Slims ad). Anyway, I’d never heard of her and only had the one shot to go on. I protest! This is grossly unfair!

    The conclusion is sad but unavoidable. This test is invalid. It needs to be undertaken again with only unknown girls and more rigorous controls. Get to work!

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  107. Evil Alpha:”Whenever someone “tourettes” a personal version of

    “White girls got no ass”
    “Black girls are too manly”
    “Asian girls look like boys”

    I always tell them the same thing…You really need to get more pussy than you have been getting.”

    The aesthetic superiority of White and Asian women is a fact, not a mere matter of personal preference, as evidenced by the world-wide marginal status of Negroid women in fashion, porn, glamour photography, Hollywood, etc.

    Dating Negroid women:I confine my experiences in such matters to quadroons.

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  108. “At age 45, it is now payback time for Porizkova; being tethered to an aging man. No amount of charm will keep his dwindling mental and physical faculties at bay. …”

    Am I wrong in thinking you’d be out the door in a second if, say, your husband had a bad car accident? Don’t forget to take him for at least half.

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  109. “The more I ponder the Ric “ewww he’s so odddd” Ocasek …”

    In addition to the above — gentlemen, whatever the movies may tell us, let us recall that women in practice don’t seem to mind bonding with somewhat heavy set, brutish, rather ugly persons with a sparse carpet of hair growing all over them.

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  110. appropriate:
    http://www.cracked.com/article_18866_5-reasons-women-are-as-shallow-as-men-according-to-science.html
    See #4. Women like good looking guys. The difference is that there’s no universal good looking guy. So, Porzikova gets weak-kneed over Ric while other people are like “huh?”
    I think the gala photo from 2008 of P&R shows she’s still hot when dolled up and that topless photo, if as recent, shows that wow, boob longentivity is that last frontier, or rather most important part, of mate selection. I’ve seen droopier hooters on 28 year olds, so again, bravo Ric.
    Going back to the gallery, I still don’t understand the hype about the asian nominee, and I like asian chicks. And yoga girl is still nice…

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  111. Porizkova admittedly has a bit of a manjaw, which in this case I’d be willing to waive. High-T means above-average horniness, right? No wonder Ocasek looks a bit worn.

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  112. “The aesthetic superiority of White and Asian women is a fact, not a mere matter of personal preference, as evidenced by the world-wide marginal status of Negroid women in fashion, porn, glamour photography, Hollywood, etc.

    Dating Negroid women:I confine my experiences in such matters to quadroons.”

    @Syon

    Quadroon??? Damn. I had to look that term up. I didn’t realize a cock could soften at the exact racial percentages of a piece of ass.

    Well, my dong ain’t as sensitive as yours so I have one ONLY word… P-U-S-S-Y for all these combos

    .25 Asian/.75 Black
    .25 Asian/.75 White

    .25 Black/.75 Asian
    .25 Black/.75 White

    .25 White/.75 Asian
    .25 White/.75 Black

    Now I know lots of hot Asian girls, but don’t see lots of gook 10’s on the big screen or on the cover of mags so I’m not so sure how you think media marginalization is an objective indicator of beauty within a race. I mean down’s syndrome was once called “mongoloidism” for chrissakes, yet there is still plenty hot “love you long time” ass running around in San Jose, CA

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  113. That brings about the question… why did you include a “Finns” race? Aren’t they just white?

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  114. Finns do throw my “genetically mixed people are the hottest” theory out the window. Or does it…

    Euro whites are some of the most genetically diverse people in the world, along with latinos. and you’d think that finns would be less diverse that most euros, since they’re all tucked away up there… but
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_U_%28mtDNA%29
    Haplogroup U5 is estimated to be the oldest mtDNA haplogroup in Europe and is found in the whole of Europe at a low frequency, but seems to be found in significantly higher levels among Finns and Estonians (both have hot women). Being the “oldest”, does that mean they’ve been in Europe for the longest, seen the most change and interbred with the highest number of newcomers?

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  115. no, actually that’s totally wrong:
    Nevertheless more than 80% of Finnish genes are from a single ancient North-European population, while most Europeans are a mixture of 3 or more principal components.

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  116. palo what

    palo who?

    palo why?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

    I was right suckers!!!!!!

    eat less food, wear smaller sizes (KL)

    and don’t forget to walk.

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  117. @syon

    I have never in my life seen an asian 10. or even a 9. I’ve seen several of black 10’s plenty 9’s, but never an asian one.

    And hispanic women are also much much much more attractive than asian women. I would in fact bet that universally hispanic women are regarded overall as the most attractive women.

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  118. on November 9, 2010 at 9:22 pm Gunslingergregi

    lolzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Your trying to hard for reaction tone it down a little.

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  119. EA said

    A scientist who is TRULY interested in the universal will ask “Who do you want to fuck?”, not “Who are you fucking right now?”

    And the former is what they did ask

    All these conclusions based on studies of the mating “choices” of some tribe numbering <300 who eats dirt to stay alive is bullshit. In a modern society aka the land of plenty where I can get pussy close to my ideal, my true preferences are revealed.

    You're joking, right ? "eating dirt to stay alive" is exactly the situation where those preferences should be as visible as they possibly could and as relevant as they could – parasites, food scarcity, predators, all the fun shit, it's only in modern times where we have had artificial means to fight all that off, so it's today when beauty is a sort of relic, as enticing as it is. Umm, this is like the basic tenet of evo psychology – prefernces shaped in environment where everybody was eating shit. And there's 1000 of them Hadza 🙂

    Anyway, I'll take Gould over Buss any day, at least he's not self taught in evolutionary theories.
    Buss' loins recently spewd out that book "Why women have sex ?", number one answer : "Because I felt attracted to the guy". Well, just fuck me, the guy is Nobel prize material.

    BTW my type for a 10 was the Lolilop girl, anyone who's into Porizkova is a sub human.

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  120. Ah, shit, missed the quotes, sorry ( I hope saying sorry doesn’t make me beta )

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  121. she looks flawless here.

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  122. About racial preferences.

    How often do you see a black male with a black woman who is of darker complexion than he is?

    It almost never happens in real life. It is never shown in advertising or the movies (stuff people pay to see or will be influenced to spend money on).

    I see more white guys with black girls than black guys with darker women.

    The current occupant of the White House is a big outlier in this regard.

    So, what do they (black males) see in blacker women they find unattractive?

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  123. Quote: “I have never in my life seen an asian 10. or even a 9. I’ve seen several of black 10′s plenty 9′s, but never an asian one. ”

    My guess is that in China , there is one “10” for every few hundred million.

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  124. How often do you see a black male with a black woman who is of darker complexion than he is?

    It almost never happens in real life.

    wow, this is the stupidest fuckin’ claim i’ve seen in a long time. you’ve gotta be shittin’ me. if you rarely see black men with darker women, then you rarely see black men, period.

    guess what: not everyone wants to be white.

    advertising is a different story, i’ll give you that.

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  125. Porizkova never really did it for me.

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  126. Evil Alpha

    A scientist who is TRULY interested in the universal will ask “Who do you want to fuck?”, not “Who are you fucking right now?”

    [Editor: Well said, EA.]

    ouch – now he’ll vow
    never to shut up

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  128. “ouch – now he’ll vow
    never to shut up”

    @Firepower

    I took that vow long ago. Zing…

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  129. Speaking of the inexorable clock of doom:

    Caprice my love! Nnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

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  130. “A scientist who is TRULY interested in the universal will ask “Who do you want to fuck?”, not “Who are you fucking right now?”
    And the former is what they did ask

    You’re joking, right ? “eating dirt to stay alive” is exactly the situation where those preferences should be as visible as they possibly could and as relevant as they could – parasites, food scarcity, predators, all the fun shit, it’s only in modern times where we have had artificial means to fight all that off, so it’s today when beauty is a sort of relic, as enticing as it is. Umm, this is like the basic tenet of evo psychology – prefernces shaped in environment where everybody was eating shit. And there’s 1000 of them Hadza :)”

    @ Lost Sheperd

    We don’t communicate well because you don’t understand fundamentals… and I assumed you did.

    A scientist does not “ask” a woman her weight (You took me far too literally). He simply puts her fat ass on the scale!!! Directly asking a woman what she finds “attractive” in a guy is absurd. Are you new to this site?

    And who cares where ones preferences are forged! Preference is best measured in the context of abundance not scarcity. Case in point. If you take Paulina and Zeta Jones off the beauty list, all of a sudden a blond wins! Now, you have a thing for the lollipop girl, but most think she is a 7. Others can’t stand cocoa girl. Yet either of these women will kick ass on a list comprised of randomly chosen American females. As Damaris Lewis would most likely be the new winner, are we then to conclude that CH readers have jungle fever? No!

    The Hazda study is shit. I’m not interested in the height of the men women “settle” down with. I’m interested in the height of the guys who women are giving the most pussy to. And I would be even more interested in introducing a tall NBA stud into their environment to track TRUE preference.

    Sorry, but it is impossible for me to respect a scientific paper with the phrase “size does not matter” in its title… especially when said paper is about an ethnic group that has a fascination with stories about Giants.

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  131. And for all that is holy and good, woman, for God’s sake take down that avatar of the nasty fungus-ridden, callous-covered misshapen, discolored corpse feet.

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  132. Evil Alpha

    “ouch – now he’ll vow
    never to shut up”

    @Firepower

    I took that vow long ago. Zing…

    You’re learning.
    Maybe you can teach the lesson to Tidnerbox

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  133. from Snoeperd:
    ‘Try taking the implicit association test’

    Yeah, the African American images in the implicit association test are some of the most asymmetrical faces I’ve seen in a long time. If this is what the designers of the test associate with African Americans, I’d have to say they’re remarkably racist. That level and frequency of asymmetry is unusual and almost certainly had to have been deliberately selected for (I’ve not noticed that asymmetry amongst African Americans is more common than amongst whites and I’m pretty sure that it isn’t). Or, more likely, the test is rigged to make people feel bad about themselves. No thanks.

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  134. If this is ‘flawless’, which I believe it is though I’m not certain, then I definitely would not regard her as a 10. She got an 8 vote from me. Nothing spectacular about her at all.

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  135. Porizkova does have a strong jawline, but it’s sleek rather than bulky. A strong and sleek jawline on a woman is a classic element of female beauty.

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  136. on November 11, 2010 at 11:04 am The Man Who Was . . .

    Porizkova does have a strong jawline

    So did Audrey Hepburn. They’re both obviously trannies.

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  137. Paulina is a ten in theory but I was never much into her because she has a vacant look. She lacks that spark in the eyes or smirk that says she would be fun to banter with or of any interest at all beyond her paper doll looks. She’s basically a mannequin.

    Catherine Zeta Jones has that spark in spades, as do several of the other women in the list. Even “nextdoorgirl,” who is at least two points lower on the scale than Paulina, looks like she’d be more fun to hang out with and in bed.

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  138. “”Reportedly the first time supermodel Cindy Crawford laid eyes on Paulina P. she asked herself “Why do I even exist?”””

    … Cindy Crawfords partner at the time Richard Gere walked in , saw Paulina and exclaimed ….

    “Compare to her (Paulina) , I’m fucking a man.”

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  139. @ EA
    “Sorry, but it is impossible for me to respect a scientific paper with the phrase “size does not matter” in its title… especially when said paper is about an ethnic group that has a fascination with stories about Giants.”

    Lol, yeah, those are some major deal breakers here – the title and mitological motives.

    EA, what you said in your post ( the first one as a response to mine ) is tantamount to this : “When discussing evolutionary aspects of human attraction, we shouldn’t give a shit about actual mate choices of a primitive people living in an environment resembling that in which humans have evovled”

    M’kay, let’s just say we have to agree to disagree on that.

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  140. @ lost

    I guess I need to repeat myself… the best gauge of “preference” exists when a man has options… and the more of them the better. You do realize that “choices” is the fundamental tenet/purpose of this site, right?
    Folks on the donner trail turned cannibal because they had nothing else to eat, not because we prefer human flesh.

    Why don’t you just man up and admit you backed the wrong horse. Your example study sucks. It has a “Cosmo” title (which signals intent) and well there’s that the GIANT problem that they compiled marriage data not fuck data.

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  141. Hi CH,

    Aside from agreeing with you, could you give us a breakdown by specific physical characteristics that make her a queen among her counterparts?

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  142. I’m a woman and always thought Paulina was the most beautiful woman on the planet. She is undoubtedly a 10 and your post reaffirms what I know to be true, that she is THE ultimate standard of beauty.

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  143. namae nanka November 8, 2010 at 2:14
    the face looks mannish, amazing eyes though.

    I agree with you, Paulina Porizkova’s was/is masculine.

    The contemporary female beauty standard is actually a perversion of the greco-roman (and italian renaissance) notions of masculine beauty. The long thin legs of a slender man, the small flat bottom of most men, the face of a man – hell even a torso of a man being recast as now bizarrely as feminine

    Testosterone gives the male face its greater definition over the female face (usually) – the eyebrow ridge, the high cheek bones, the jaw line.

    Most contemporary makeup styles on womens faces actually add definition to their faces.
    Painting on the allusion of high cheekbones, shaping the eyebrows to be accentuate the eyebrow ridge men naturally have.

    Compare the geisha makeup:

    with Paulina Porizkova, or cindy crawford


    which makeup style masculinizes the face more?

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  144. Stiletto

    Hi CH,

    Aside from agreeing with you, could you give us a breakdown by specific physical characteristics that make her a queen among her counterparts?

    most alphas i know say “brunet, skinny and young”

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  145. on December 2, 2010 at 9:51 pm Epsilon Eridani

    Oh, hell yeah! Paulina had the Perfect Female Face in her youth. It is Plato’s Form of the beautiful female face.

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  146. talk about a 10

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  147. Epsilon Eridani
    Oh, hell yeah! Paulina had the Perfect Female Face in her youth. It is Plato’s Form of the beautiful female face.

    as you know, aphrodite the goddess of beauty ( venus to the romans) has not a feminine female face, but that of a MASCULINE female face.

    images of;
    Aphrodite:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite

    venus:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_(mythology)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_de_Milo

    the Greco-roman notions of beauty, cast the male body as the ideal form, and the ideal face was to our eyes masculine with minor elements of the feminine

    The ancient Greek and roman believed, the male body and male face was more beautiful than the female. I note how in their paintings, mosaics that women makeup their faces to be like men’s with sharp features.

    Note how plain women look without makeup, they cant match the definition of our face

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