I Have Stolen Many Prime Years of Girls’ Lives

That’s what my mother told me over the phone yesterday in so many words.

Mom:  Why aren’t you settled down yet?
Me:  Just lucky, I guess?
Mom:  Don’t be a wiseguy.  You’re dating these young girls during their prime years and not marrying them.  Poor things.
Me:  I can’t believe my own mother isn’t on my side.
Mom:  You’re stealing the best years of their lives!  Don’t you feel guilty?
Me:  I dunno.  Did you feel guilty when you didn’t put out for a guy you were dating?

Mom:  Grow up!

Afterwards, I did ponder the wreckage of lives I have left behind in my copulatory wake.  Technically, I should feel some guilt.  If we define the prime marrying years of a woman to be between 21 and 26 — too young and she’ll be emotionally ill-equipped to perform her wifely duties of indulging my every need; too old and I’ll be emotionally ill-equipped to accept her indulgence — then I have squeezed the juice out of the ripest years of quite a few girls.  For free.  The next beta in line will be stuck marrying the rind.

I take a philosophical view of my biological thievery.  While I have reneged on my end of the deal, many women renege on theirs when they string a man along in LJBF perpetuity.  What guy with bloated testes hasn’t heard this from a girl he really liked:  “you’re my friend. i just don’t see you in that way.”

Therefore, my actions are helping to bring balance to the force.  On the cosmic scales of justice the cads and the cockteases are locked in battle supreme for everlasting victory.  I unsheath my sword with strength of purpose.

On a scale of 1 to 5, 1 being tongue lightly grazing the cheek and 5 being tongue firmly pressed to side of mouth, this post was 2 tongue in cheeks.





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  1. on October 8, 2007 at 3:26 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    “Me: I dunno. Did you feel guilty when you didn’t put out for a guy you were dating?”

    You really said this to your mom?! And she answered?!

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  2. on October 8, 2007 at 3:33 pm not crying in my cheerios

    I think every girl (myself included) is thankful for the ass bags she dated in her prime marriage years… and didn’t end up with in her 30’s. 😉

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  3. You really said this to your mom?!

    yes.
    it’s a foolproof way to scuttle a conversational thread.

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  4. All four of my brothers are married and have kids. I’m 31 and still single, and when I talk to mom it is a constant nag fest about me settling down.

    I think your approach will help me survive those phone calls.

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  5. By the way, how old are you Roissy?
    I agree with you that it may not be a good idea to date girls younger than 21, but you can date them before that and marry them a few years later.

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  6. What is your lower age limit when dating women Roissy, btw?

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  7. You are mentioning an esssential point. Most women nowadays believe that the thirties are the new twenties, a hideous lie which will leave many women helplessy seeking a partner in their perimenopausal years.

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  8. In post number 5, the first “date” should be replaced with “marry”

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  9. on October 8, 2007 at 5:00 pm Cynically yours

    In other words, mom thinks you have great power over young women, but that you use it unwisely. Congratulations. That’s as good as being declared an alpha.

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  10. I tend to look at his a little differently folks. I have found that a good majority of women from say 18 to 25 are out getting THEIR rocks off, not looking for a serious relationship, but exploring their options. It is nothing for a woman to grab a one night stand, and if it happens to go farther then cool, otherwise just walk away. I don’t believe anyone is stealing “prime Years” unless there has been wordplay on staying together, getting married or whatever. It’s not just men who sow their oats here. Thanks for letting me throw out my .02
    Joe

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  11. on October 8, 2007 at 6:11 pm David Alexander

    Interesting conversation between the two of you. While your mother is chastizing you for leading women on, my mother chastizes me for being such a lonely underachieving loser, and goads me with questions such as “when will you get a girlfriend” and “I can’t believe that you go to college and you still haven’t found anybody attractive”. Using the gay excuse doesn’t work for her since we’re Caribbean, and she stopped buying my “I don’t have enough money” excuse.

    Most women nowadays believe that the thirties are the new twenties

    Given the choice between having fun and doing interesting things and having sex with Roissy or being impoverished and having babies with ugly beta male fathers, one would suspect that most women when given the chance would delay childbirth.

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  12. It’s hard for me to see how a male that engages in promiscuous casual sex is ‘stealing years’ away from women. Maybe some “stolen” hours or days. Or weeks or months in longer short-term pseudo-relationships.

    But even then, the women aren’t seeking reproduction and that’s the point.

    I have never seen a seduction guide that recommended tricking girls into thinking casual sex was a long-term commitment. In fact just the opposite, they recommend NOT investing in women (buying drinks, etc), which are all the classic signals of promissory commitment, and to drop the neutered nice guy persona for an overtly sexual one.

    It’s ridiculous how people still view women who engage in short term sexual relationships as ‘victims’ and the men as victimizers. Birth control, education, and careers have changed the landscape.

    I have a feeling that roissy is only playing up this dubious angle because he finds it funny how much strange anxiety it causes in those ‘out of the loop’. This includes older types like his mom, religious and conservative folks, and (contrary to the Beta Avenger stuff) have-not “nice guy” males who feel they are being short-changed by “Cheater” Males.

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  13. Maybe the cosmic balance would be complete if we could somehow know for certain that you’ve done the Juiceman routine to a few girls who are serial LJBF-ers.

    I think that would be an excellent felicific calculation to appease your mom.

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  14. on October 8, 2007 at 8:39 pm David Alexander

    This includes older types like his mom, religious and conservative folks, and (contrary to the Beta Avenger stuff) have-not “nice guy” males who feel they are being short-changed by “Cheater” Males.

    To be honest, Roissy, I’m not fond of Roissy’s tactics and how he treats and thinks of women, but he probably thinks that my viewpoint is broken and mysogynistic. It would be nice to have the access to women that Roissy has but I can’t be Roissy. It’s not my personality, nor can I live with myself if I ever used his methods. So, given the choice between no women and no sex, or becoming Roissy, I’d choose no women because how I see myself is very important, and I’d feel guilty for being a “jerk”.

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  15. Yes, DA, you are exactly the type that roissy enjoys punishing with “I ponder the wreckage of lives I have left behind in my copulatory wake”. (Hey, if his mother is fair game, don’t take it personally ;))

    It’s possible this is true, but roissy hasn’t actually advocated much here that is consistent with this. Sex is not a trick men play on women.

    Don’t let myths about ‘wreckage’ keep you from building mutual attraction with the opposite sex. There’s nothing wrong with it, and no reason you shouldn’t be able to “live with yourself”. Don’t let that be your convenient excuse for inert antisocial yearning.

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  16. on October 8, 2007 at 10:48 pm David Alexander

    I wouldn’t say that men like Roissy punish me by “looting” all of the women. I’d imagine if I was in his position, I’d end up doing the same thing myself. I’d imagine most other men would too. 😛

    Sex isn’t a trick since there are two willing participants. While there may be societal pressure to say yes or no in either direction for the women, but in a situation where the sex is consentual, if a woman picks a guy like Roissy over quiet shy beta male, then there really isn’t a trick there. It just means that Roissy is more attractive, and there really isn’t much that we can do to change or fix that.

    Still, I could become a virtual clone of Roissy or VK or Roosh, but that’s not my native personality. I’m just simply a shy geek who looks after his two sick parents with a conscious. I’m the kind of guy who feels guilty for treating the ugly girl poorly over the nice girl or for not giving the homeless guy some spare change. I like waking up with a clean conscious and that lifestyle of “trickery” would leave me with a lot of heartbreak and guilt. And quite frankly, I’m just too much of an introverted Internet addict to socialize with people, and too much of a porn addict to find normal women attractive. Quite frankly, most white can, will, and have done better than me, and would certainly rather be with somebody who’s just simply better and has their own place. OTOH, a former college football playing friend managed to get laid on many occasions while living in his parents basement while his friend who lived on his own gets nothing. 🙂

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  17. I was the textbook guy who used the PU community to change for the better. Was 20 something, IT geek and no luck landing good women.

    Years later, the best parts are internalized into my personality. I don’t think of them as tactics any more and left the training wheels aspects of seduction (routines and shit) behind. You simply don’t need those anymore when you project sexual confidence and a care free attitude to hot women.

    Your body language, eyes and tone say far more than the words mean.

    Women like to be seduced, they like sex and they like a man who will give them both in an exciting way. They are grown ass people who know exactly what they are getting into having flings.

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  18. DA, you mean “conscience”, don’t you?

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  19. on October 8, 2007 at 11:07 pm David Alexander

    Yes you’re right. That mistake is certainly a sign of my pissantly low IQ… 🙂

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  20. somehow i identify with you (post 14) but when roissy said something about LBJF (whatever) i see his point too. if onloy everyone could see it the way u do, then it would a leveled playing ground.

    sex is 2 ways, so if u dont wantr ur prime stolen maybe u keep ur self to urself, else if you have to look for exciting then u inherit what comes with it.

    Things are looking up. lots of girls with conscience too, u got to find them.

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  21. on October 8, 2007 at 11:57 pm secret asian man

    An embedded video is worth a thousand words.

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  22. just when i think you’re evil, you make me laugh. damn you.

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  23. Roissy, I’m pretty sure a conversation like that would greatly add to your application to become an honorary Jew. If she had thrown in some Yoda-esque “Some grandkids before I die, that would be nice” quip you’d be set.

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  24. on October 9, 2007 at 1:01 am David Alexander

    Things are looking up. lots of girls with conscience too, u got to find them.

    Sadly, those girls aren’t fuckable…

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  25. I wouldn’t say that men like Roissy punish me by “looting” all of the women.

    No, the punishment is reinforcing your self-defeating conviction that you are losing out on account of virtue rather than cowardice.

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  26. Oh no, I’m well award that I’m a coward, and I have never asked a girl out on a date. Virtue explains why I don’t act like a player, and cowardice (along with a well stock alternative and maybe common sense) explains why I don’t bother at all.

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  27. Contrary to the replies here, the LJBF motif is hardly new. It wasn’t even started back in the 70’s either but it was bolstered by the burgeoning feminist movement and its Junior Anti-Sex League adherents at the time.

    Back then I could handle the rejection, but what I really resented was being told that I shouldn’t even want to get laid, and that those doing the rejecting didn’t seem to want anyone else either. They preferred to hang with each other instead.

    And as I got older I found that they had broken the ancient contract of the sexual division of labor: basically food for sex. Rain And got it right when he said “Birth control, education, and careers have changed the landscape.”

    So with that in mind, the only advice I can offer is this: If you are lucky enough to be an alpha male, you should NEVER feel guilty about sticking it in as many vaginas as you can find. Just remember two things: don’t knock her up, and don’t get/transmit any STD.

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  28. While I have reneged on my end of the deal, many women renege on theirs when they string a man along in LJBF perpetuity. What guy with bloated testes hasn’t heard this from a girl he really liked: “you’re my friend. i just don’t see you in that way.”

    And as I got older I found that they had broken the ancient contract of the sexual division of labor: basically food for sex. Rain And got it right when he said “Birth control, education, and careers have changed the landscape.”

    Dude, food for sex was a crappy trade. The current system works out better since it forces everybody to go out and get their own food, thus allowing people to have sex with the hot women without worrying about knocking her up, and women can have sex with the alpha bad boys without worrying about marrying him. If anything, it’s a marked improvement over the days of being forced to marry some ugly village girl that was assigned to you.

    If you get the LJBF, from a girl it shouldn’t be anymore painful than falling dying in Mario World. Just move on and find another girl who may be receptive to you. Sure you blew money on her, but you’d probably end up squandering the money away something useless anyways.

    So with that in mind, the only advice I can offer is this: If you are lucky enough to be an alpha male, you should NEVER feel guilty about sticking it in as many vaginas as you can find. Just remember two things: don’t knock her up, and don’t get/transmit any STD.

    Unless I get a girl from just being a nice sweet polite guy, then I’m not going to bother. Too much of that Catholic School/liberal/sweet boy/equal index-ring finger ratio guilt. 🙂

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  29. if i might make a lil request: can u do something on defining alpha, beta, omega and gamma (the last 2 are new to me) although u have done something on alpha, can you do some extrapolation on these 4 (yes big grammar) and how do any move to another state.

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  30. gannon:
    By the way, how old are you Roissy?

    the evidence is in the case file.

    What is your lower age limit when dating women Roissy, btw?

    barely legal.
    hey, you stipulated limit.

    b for beta:
    alpha – gets pussy when he wants
    beta – gets pussy when she wants
    gamma – gets pussy when luck wants
    omega – gets pussy when prostitute wants

    how do any move to another state.

    applied learning.

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  31. you cant move b/n levels. on the other hand, you can realise your original state. 🙂

    go through http://www.geocities.com/protopop_1999/treatise.html, if you have time. if you can read it, then u will get the alphabet.

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  32. on October 9, 2007 at 1:13 pm startingtoday

    I didn’t read all the comments.. but…. nice job getting in the blog log!

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  33. DA, can you help me out? Where is this case file?
    By the way, my philosophy is the same as Roissie’s, that is barely legal. However, barely legal changes from country to country and from state within the US. But that is fine because the law indicates what each peculiarsociety deems as acceptable, and the US model should not be taken as universal.
    And really DA, you are a nice, likeable guy, with some courage and a little bit of game you could have your voluptuous, slutty, white early twenties girl. Thanks for your help for explaining me where and what this case file is.

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  34. There is no case file. 🙂

    Judging from the references Roissy has made and the way he speaks, I presume that he’s a white male in his late twenties of some upper middle class ancestry. His taste in good clothes and aversion to fat women precludes him from being working class or high prole origins.

    And really DA, you are a nice, likable guy, with some courage and a little bit of game you could have your voluptuous, slutty, white early twenties girl.

    Trust me, I’m not really a nice likable guy, and underneath that fake smile is a vain, elitist, sometimes racist, jealous, spiteful person where evil thoughts can lurk underneath, but are only contained by the divine grace of God. Seriously, maybe I *could* get a girl like that, but that would just require too much work on my part. My interest rate at the bank offers a better return than trying to get and use game would. 🙂

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  35. I’ll also add that I have the social skills of a brick, but yet, I manage to get high scores evaluations at work where I’m a frigging customer service rep… 🙂

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  36. Thank you!
    So cas filr refers to deduce from the circumstances, the case.

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  37. “Dude, food for sex was a crappy trade. The current system works out better since it forces everybody to go out and get their own food, thus allowing people to have sex with the hot women without worrying about knocking her up, and women can have sex with the alpha bad boys without worrying about marrying him. If anything, it’s a marked improvement over the days of being forced to marry some ugly village girl that was assigned to you.”

    DA, I don’t understand how you could say this and then advocate legalized prostitution, which is probably the most fundamental form of food for sex there is. The fact is that girls can get laid any time, anywhere, while men can’t. They have what we want and need, while they can get by quite easily without it (protestations from female readers of this blog notwithstanding). Problem is they now can get the food just as easily by trading other skills instead.

    In the long run, Western society cannot survive this way. Unless and until women’s options are narrowed to (as Philip Longman put it) being a nun, a prostitute, or marrying a man and having his children, our long birth dearth will continue and other societies where this is true will replace us.

    “If you get the LJBF, from a girl it shouldn’t be anymore painful than falling dying in Mario World. Just move on and find another girl who may be receptive to you. Sure you blew money on her, but you’d probably end up squandering the money away something useless anyways.”

    On this one you are absolutely right. It took me a long time to get lucky, but I wasn’t going to waste it in the manner you describe.

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  38. There’s a difference between legalized prostitution and marriage. In the case of prostitution, I am transferring money in exchange for the temporary right to “use” the female for sexual activity for a limited duration. In prostitution, I am guaranteed sexual activity. I can supplement this female’s services with that of another female or if I’m not satisfied, I can find another replacement female. I take no responsibility for her, and her maintainaince is her own responsibility. It’s a short-term, strictly business related affair, and the ability to end a business relationship in this case is simple and quick.

    In marriage, it’s a long-term arrangement in which resources in spent in taking care of her and the offspring with no guarantee of sex. I can spend millions of dollars on my wife, and I can have no recourse in terms of the amount of sex that we have, how many sex partners I can have, or the quality of the sex. If I choose to exit this business arrangement, it’s an expensive and long drawn out process that’s more complicated with longer relationships.

    Prostitution allows me to have sex without the burden of dating and courtship. It’s cheap, easy and effective for meeting my sexual needs in a way that no woman with any self-respect would be able to meet. If I become bored with the appearance of my prostitute, like a tired porn video, I can find another one who’s good looking and substitute her into my rotation. In contrast, that’s impossible in marriage where in effect, you’re stuck with her even if you’re bored and grow tired of her.

    For men like me with no chance of attracting women and no income to cover up massive faults that alpha males don’t have, prostitution is a great way to meet my needs since the alternative is literally the ugly village girl from my arranged marriage situation.

    Quite frankly, if we dissolved marriage, openly had prostitution, and let women become single mothers with nearly 90% of all children being alpha off-spring, I don’t think it wouldn’t be that bad. It allows for women to get the alpha sperm that they want, it allows for alphas to spread their seed, and with prostitution, beta men can have their sexual urges relieved.

    Besides, even if we magically reduce the options per Longman’s suggestions, it doesn’t butterfly away the problem of the high and increasing cost of raising children. Dual income families can barely raise their kids in a middle class environment and send them off the public college. How the hell can they raise five children with one income?

    High birth cultures have low investment in their children, and churn out lots of kids as de facto farm workers and due to the fact that most of those kids will die before the age of 5. Even in these high birth cultures, the urban population has lower birthrates than their lower counterparts. Make birth control cheap for poor third world nations, and watch the birth rates plummet.

    Trust me, if push comes to shove, we can and will nuke off the other cultures with high birth rates.

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  39. DA, your last line is superb.

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  40. on October 10, 2007 at 7:37 pm David Alexander

    It’s true and everybody knows it. We have real bombs, they just have idiots with dynamite belts. 🙂

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  41. “Afterwards, I did ponder the wreckage of lives I have left behind in my copulatory wake. Technically, I should feel some guilt.”

    One. I f I would not do it, some other guy would, as the ladies themselves “are not ready”

    Two. How many women have cause damage to my balls, turning them blue, and not felt guilt?

    Three. They had good time, I am assuming equality, thus, good time given is the price for receiving good time.

    Four. The ladies are independent and strong. So they are adults. They can make the right choice (assumption). Thus, I dont do anything they do not want to be done.

    I walk away happy, with no burden.

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  42. gannon:
    By the way, how old are you Roissy?

    The evidence is in the case file.

    My best guess on pretty good evidence would be 33. He said at one point that he’d dated a girl as much as 15 years younger. Don’t how what’s the age of consent in DC/Virginia/Maryland, but lets use her 17 or 18. Makes him 32 or 33. Or a year or two older. I’m guessing 33.

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  43. Do what works

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  44. […] If you are a man who can face the marital abyss and not flinch, then at the one year mark you may be put into relationship limbo. This is what it implies — a relationship in a holding pattern with a woman who is slowly withdrawing her affection. She will go to bed without sexytime, make breakfast for herself instead of the both of you like she used to, start complaining that you hog the bed, happily recite a list of her friends who are getting hitched, ceaselessly mutter about your “incompatibility”, bitch that you don’t take the “initiative” (read: “propose”), and generally become a sourpuss around you. This is because women get very, VERY, pissed and bewildered when their prime directive (to get married) is thwarted. […]

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  47. lol Who the fuck cares? The women don’t have to be with me, they chose to…

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  49. Don’t you fellas find it amazingly entertaining that, whenever you call a woman on her bullshit, she resorts to ad hominem?

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  51. […] to self at thought of proposing. (“Bended knee, my ass!”) – good girl dumps you for wasting her prime years. In your sorrow, you respond by traveling and banging a couple of international hotties – Your […]

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  53. on February 26, 2011 at 1:49 pm Michael Ejercito

    If we define the prime marrying years of a woman to be between 21 and 26 — too young and she’ll be emotionally ill-equipped to perform her wifely duties of indulging my every need; too old and I’ll be emotionally ill-equipped to accept her indulgence — then I have squeezed the juice out of the ripest years of quite a few girls.

    I suspect that most women in that age range are not willing to get married, even if they find a man with an alpha-type personality willing to be married.

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  54. I remember a guy who posted here who said that of all his friends, the ones who proposed to their girlfriends ended up either rejected or divorced later down the line; the ones who had their girlfriends propose are still happily married.

    Hey if you want to start a family, you need to have your girlfriend propose, and a law degree just in case…

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