Time To Boredom

There are two reasons men get bored with women: Intellectual incompatibility and beauty incompatibility. The less mentally stimulating or aesthetically stimulating a woman is to a man, the quicker he will grow bored with her and throw his worm back into the waters for nibbles from new fish. Which of these two factors controls a larger portion of a man’s interest? Beauty, clearly, and especially so in the critical first few months, but assuming a threshold for acceptable beauty is met intellectual attraction or lack thereof serves to capture a man’s interest beyond the three-month mark. If neither the beauty nor intellectual threshold of attraction is crossed, a man will get bored after the first ejaculation. If both are met, a man is susceptible to the woman’s ploys to entrap him into marriage.

Beauty and intellectual compatibility are relative to the man’s dating market value. If the man is a 9, he will need a woman who is a 9 or 10 in beauty, and no less than 10 IQ points lower than his own, if he is to avoid getting bored with her after a month or two. Although I’ve known plenty of people whose wit, charm, and humor belied their average IQs, I will use IQ in this post as a rough proxy for intellectual and personality compatibility. For purposes of discussion, I’ll set aside the few exceptions where the IQ of the partners is equal but their interests are so contrary that boredom becomes a manifestation of despising the other person’s hobbies.

What follows is a handy chart illustrating Time To Boredom for the average man (male dating value rank = 5 on a scale of 0 – 10 inclusive) based on the two critical variables of female beauty and IQ. Note that Time To Boredom is a relative value that will, on average, occur much sooner for a high ranking man than it would for a low ranking man. It is conceivable, in fact, that a male 10 will get bored with every woman he meets within hours if he doesn’t have mistresses to take up the slack in his attention span, while a male zero might take years to get bored of a female zero, although in the latter case the boredom might be just as quickly forthcoming but given the dearth of options available to the male zero he will work hard to keep his boredom and disgust hidden from his ugly partner.

Female IQ is measured against a male baseline of 100.

Female Hotness            Female             Time To Male
Rank IQ Boredom
0                                   +-10 points     1 nanosecond (Neural disgust registers
before conscious awareness)
0                                   >-10 points      same diff
0                                   >+10 points     same diff
1                                   +-10 points      1 millisecond (time to retinal burn)
1                                   >-10 points      irrelevant
1                                   >+10 points     1 millisecond to boredom + annoyance
2                                   +-10 points      1 second
2                                   >-10 points      1 minute (male inspired to
ridicule the dummy)
2                                   >+10 points     1 minute (male inspired to
ridicule the nerd)
3                                   +-10 points      5 minutes (male tries to find
redeeming quality)
3                                   >-10 points      3 minutes (male fails at finding
redeeming quality)
3                                   >+10 points     6 minutes (takes male extra minute to
realize she’s ugly thanks to her
impressive knowledge of
computer hardware)
4                                    +-10 points      1 hour (male wants same night lay)
4                                    >-10 points      1/2 hour (male wants same hour lay)
4                                    >+10 points     2 hours (males wants same night lay
with talky talky chick)
5                                    +-10 points      5 weeks (bloom off the rose after
third bang)
5                                    >-10 points      3 weeks (pillow talk excruciating)
5                                    >+10 points     4 weeks (male charmed, then annoyed,
by chick’s nerdiness)
6                                    +-10 points      3 months (best he’s ever had,
but still not that good)
6                                    >-10 points      2 months (her hobby is beer pong)
6                                    >+10 points     2.5 months (emasculated by her
sharp tongue)
7                                    +-10 points      1 year (a beta’s heaven)
7                                    >-10 points      9 months (tard kills boners dead)
7                                    >+10 points     1.5 years (male inspired by her,
but relationship unstable)
8                                    +-10 points      5 years (even a beta will get tired
of sex with same hottie)
8                                    >-10 points      5 years (she’s too hot to care
about tardness)
8                                    >+10 points     5 years (she’s too hot to care
about nerdiness)
9                                    +-10 points      30 years (beta suffers seizure from
constant stream of endorphins)
9                                    >-10 points      30 years (she’s too hot to notice
tardness)
9                                    >+10 points     30 years (she’s too hot to notice
much of anything except
how hot she is)
10                                 +-10 points      forever (entered realm of unreality)
10                                 >-10 points      forever + 1 (tardness means she can’t
tell he’s a beta)
10                                 >+10 points     forever -1 (one day, she uses big word
that renders him impotent)

As you can see, it is almost guaranteed that men of every status rank will grow bored with their girlfriends, dates, wives, fuckbuddies without an external injection of groinal stimulation. There is only one way a man can delay Time To Boredom:

girl1girl2





Comments


  1. Yes,but can time to boredom be mitigated by raunchiness or kinkiness? I believe it can.

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  2. Dr Seuss for the win.

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  3. What is the male baseline looks/personality wise? Are we talking about a male 10 or 9 with a baseline IQ of 100?

    While I understand where you are coming from, I disagree on the fact that a female’s tardness would keep her from recognizing that the male is a beta.

    This innate ability for females to recognize beta behaviors in their men (and those men that they aren’t with) is something that has NOTHING to do with their IQ. Women can smell betas the way dogs sniff out narcotics at the Mexican border.

    I hardly ever see a female 9 or 10 with a beta because she’s to stupid (IQ wise) to sniff out his betaness. Women are naturally repeled by this stench of beta.

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  4. Hmm, after looking closer at the chart. I take back the first part of my above comment. The chart, I think, is focused on a male 6 or 7 (or whatever the male equivalent of a beta is).

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  5. I call it
    “Jessica Simpson Syndrome”

    {JSS}

    This is the embodiment
    or, to use a bastardized word

    The Avatar of that oft quote, oft miscredited phrase:

    “No matter how hot she is,
    some guy somewhere
    is sick of fucking her”

    Mine is much more simple, thus more effective.

    Please give
    to the Firepower Writes! For JSS Charity
    so I may be able to continue my research in finding that one piece of ass that does not disappoint

    amen

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  6. on October 12, 2009 at 1:29 pm Seeking Alpha

    I’m going to push back on the importance of having an intellectual equal (or close to it). Especially on the highest end of the spectrum.

    Your woman isn’t meant to be your debating partner anymore than she’s meant to be your Sunday football buddy or your video game partner.

    If you want to stimulate your mind, work a challenging job, read a good book, or go have drinks with a smart but liberal friend.

    But I know when I get home after talking finance and politics for 10 hours, I want a drink, some dinner, and a warm body pressed close to me.

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  7. I agree with Brad’s first part of the comment.

    I have noticed a pattern where lower IQ chicks tend to demand more masculinity from their guys.

    At the other end of the spectrum we have the gold digger: super smart, yet willing to accommodate a beta for the benefits. She’ll be cheating in no time, of course, but the beta has better chances with a smart 9 or 10 than with a dumb 9 or 10.

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  8. The issue with dumb 9s or 10s, is the ability to not embarrass the alpha socially. Alphas don’t want their airhead gal to lower his status, unless they are airheads too, in which case the IQ gap is lower.

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  9. @Seeking Alpha,
    But I know when I get home after talking finance and politics for 10 hours, I want a drink, some dinner, and a warm body pressed close to me.

    that’s interesting,….. and what if your job was to talk to idiots all day?

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  10. on October 12, 2009 at 1:41 pm Seeking Alpha

    @ anony

    Then you’re not applying yourself and you should get a better job. Or a hobby.

    I can see how it might be enjoyable for some people to combine an intellectual friend and a sexual partner into one, but I think it probably does more harm than good in most cases and comes from a sense of insecurity and status seeking, usually among one’s overeducated liberal friends.

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  11. why is it that almost every 6 enjoys beer pong?

    anyway, i’m curious as to why the scale seems to regress and progress in TTB for different hotness ratings based upon increased IQ? a smart 10 is slightly less desirable compared to other 10s but a smart 7 is slightly more desirable (if higher TTB implies increased desire) compared to other 7s.

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  12. “Contrary to the old jokes about dumb blondes, beautiful people seem to be cleverer, too. One of the most detailed studies on the link between beauty and intelligence was done by Mark Prokosch, Ronald Yeo and Geoffrey Miller, who also work at the University of New Mexico. These three researchers correlated people’s bodily symmetry with their performance on intelligence tests. Such tests come in many varieties, of course, and have a controversial background. But most workers in the field agree that there is a quality, normally referred to as “general intelligence”, or “g”, that such tests can measure objectively along with specific abilities in such areas as spatial awareness and language. Dr Miller and his colleagues found that the more a test was designed to measure g, the more the results were correlated with bodily symmetry—particularly in the bottom half of the beauty-ugliness spectrum.”
    http://vitruvianmind.com/?p=670&akst_action=share-this

    From this day forward I’ll refer to myself as bright blond – thank you very much. 🙂

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  13. A holiday treat — a post with a table AND a picture!

    As far as the content goes, Pupu can see herself settling comfortably for beer pong in the not so distant future.

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  14. the Anglosphere whites are still so much wealthier than the rest of the human race that, whetever their senior citizens decide to move in, they will create a bubble.

    again with the Uruguay example. 200 thousand white Americans would have savings taht are probably as big as the total stock of capital of Uruguay.

    with no more than 50 thousand White Anglos there, there would be an almost urgent need for cheap workforce to help build the houses and the business created due to the credit explosion created by the Anglo´s savings. Africa anyone? Most of SOuth AMerica has less than replacement fertility levels anyway.

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  15. @seeking alpha,

    I can see how it might be enjoyable for some people to combine an intellectual friend and a sexual partner into one, but I think it probably does more harm than good in most cases and comes from a sense of insecurity and status seeking, usually among one’s overeducated liberal friends.

    WOW! please reread that.

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  16. I think creativity, humor, and intellectual curiosity matter a lot more than IQ as far as intellectual compatibility goes.

    I dated a 140 once who could talk fast but was basically a bore. Because everyone had been telling her how smart she was, she was actually quite bland. She was also poorly behaved and had awful tastes in men.

    I’ve also dated women who were probably in the upper 120s who were extremely interesting– creative, curious, constantly pushing themselves to learn about new ideas– and I never got bored of them, even though I’d likely never be able to explain Lebesgue integration to them. The girlfriend I miss the most (intellectually, as well as in other ways) is probably around 125-128, but she was funny— a trait that is uncommon (and to be treasured) in women.

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  17. on October 12, 2009 at 1:55 pm Seeking Alpha

    @ anony

    I apologize if that wasn’t clear. Usually doing several things at once as I type these comments.

    =====

    I can understand why some people might want to have a sexual partner who is also an intellectual friend – someone to discuss intellectual topics with.

    However, in most cases, I think a relationship based on traditional male/female dynamics – intimacy, sex, love, companionship, – will be more likely to succeed than a relationship based on a shared intellectual passion.

    And I think that many times a man might choose an intellectual equal as a partner to gain the approval of his social circle (particularly if this circle is educated and liberal) rather than because it’s who he is most attracted to.

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  18. on October 12, 2009 at 1:57 pm Seeking Alpha

    Although I can imagine how much fun it must be to have a girl so smart that she gets excited when she finds a poorly written comment on a blog.

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  19. Pupu PreDicted:

    Pupu can see herself settling comfortably for beer pong in the not so distant future.

    why would pupu downgrade
    from her current
    Bourbon Pong?

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  20. @Seeking alpha: You said,

    However, in most cases, I think a relationship based on traditional male/female dynamics – intimacy, sex, love, companionship, – will be more likely to succeed than a relationship based on a shared intellectual passion.

    Even, if not especially, in traditional marriages there’s give-and-take and negotiation. You don’t want to be having these discussions with someone who’s not very bright. Also, I think intellectual and spiritual passion are an utterly necessary component of a romantic relationship, although the four elements you listed– intimacy, sex, love, and companionship– are also equally necessary.

    Holding out for a toe-to-toe equal is insane, especially for HI daters. On the other hand, there needs to be some reciprocity. 150/125 can work because the two people are likely to be equal in most areas of intellectual life. 150/100 or 125/90 is doomed.

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  21. @s. a.
    However, in most cases, I think a relationship based on traditional male/female dynamics – intimacy, sex, love, companionship,

    that’s hard to understand, wanting companionship, intimacy and love with a simpler partner. don’t you ever feel alone?

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  22. on October 12, 2009 at 2:08 pm Seeking Alpha

    @ Cless

    are also equally necessary

    So you think a relationship where the two people could discuss Chaucer for hours on end but have absolutely no sexual energy or intimacy is as likely to work as a relationship with lots of intimacy and love and lust but zero intellectual passion?

    150/100 or 125/90 is doomed.

    Mine is probably close to 150/100 if not a bit wider on both ends. It very rarely bothers me. A 125 is as incapable of discussing my passions with me as a 100. At least the 100 knows it and can ask me simple questions that provide me great pleasure to answer (I’d love to be a teacher when I retire).

    I think you were right when you said it’s less about the level of IQ and more about its nature. My beautiful lady is not a very bright cookie but she is certainly curious – in many ways – and of all the problems I have with her, intelligence has never been one of them.

    Just my perspective.

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  23. that’s hard to understand, wanting companionship, intimacy and love with a simpler partner. don’t you ever feel alone?

    It’s not a matter of wanting a ‘simpler’ partner. It’s a matter of not looking at someone being not as smart as you (or smarter than you) as a completely disqualifying feature.

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  24. Firepower:
    “why would pupu downgrade
    from her current
    Bourbon Pong?”

    Because it is faster
    and cheaper to
    come up with
    so many
    bottles
    .

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  25. on October 12, 2009 at 2:12 pm Seeking Alpha

    that’s hard to understand, wanting companionship, intimacy and love with a simpler partner. don’t you ever feel alone?

    I’ve felt alone my whole life. Man is an island. But I have a great ferry system that lets me visit other islands all the time. It’s more fun that way!

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  26. on October 12, 2009 at 2:15 pm Seeking Alpha

    a smart guy is not gonna deal for long with a dumb chick cursing at the TV when nascar is on.

    My lady is probably 90-110 and loves Bravo reality shows. My mom is probably more like 140 and loves Dancing with the Stars and People magazine.

    Shit, if she wants to put on ‘Flipping Out’ after dinner, that means I can read a bit more of Debt of Honor or The Economist in peace without having to hear about the cute things her students did today. Silence is golden.

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  27. Seeking Alpha,

    “My lady is probably 90-110 and loves Bravo reality shows. My mom is probably more like 140 and loves Dancing with the Stars and People magazine.”

    Every week, Pupu browses through People, US, In Touch, Lifestyle, and OK to check and balance their contents.

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  28. So much truth to this post.

    And the comment that says “Why isn’t the 6’s always love to play beer pong?” is funny as hell!!!

    So true – so- so – so – so TRUE.

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  29. gig,

    Only as long as their money is worth something.. which it soon won’t be.

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  30. an alpha male…will happily choose a woman of middling intelligence as long as she is hot and feminine and treats him like a king.

    …a smart guy is not gonna deal for long with a dumb chick cursing at the TV when nascar is on.

    This ‘king treatment’ factor is a missing variable – an important one.

    If she’s attractive, cooks good and – importantly – gives me the king treatment, I overlook some flaws.

    MOST important is if she practices that lost feminine art of

    Shut The Fuck Up

    She can be as dumb as a box of Kotex, so long as she frequently girls out and shuts the fuck up, I’m cool w/ it.

    When she learns her yapping gfs are the proper sponge for all that female whining, and I dgaf, it’s cool

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  31. Posts like these are just depressing.

    the squirrels running in her head NEVER SHUT THE FUCK UP.

    This is true. However, it may be surprising how often they’re not yapping about the boy.

    And beer pong is hard, yo.

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  32. Pupu LaMenTed:

    Firepower:
    “why would pupu downgrade
    from her current
    Bourbon Pong?”

    Because it is faster
    and cheaper to
    come up with
    so many
    bottles

    how sad it makes Firepower
    discovering that pupu
    needs to purchase
    her own drinks

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  33. I think many men will agree with the following assessment:

    If you could have a very pretty, feminine, NICE woman with mediocre intelligence

    or

    a very pretty, feminine, cuntess with high intelligence

    He’d pick the nice, pleasant, positive, “lets-make-the-best-out-of-whatever-comes-along” chick every single time. Men dont wan’t women who are “challenges” long term. They might enjoy chasing and having a three-month fuckfest with a “challenge”, but letting that kind of woman live with you (trust me, Ive done it), is a pain-in-the-ass.

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  34. great post.. so true. I’ve found that as Ive gotten more experienced and attained higher levels of quality in my women, I get bored so much faster. A girl that I’d have killed for 5 years ago, gets boring to me after the first or second fuck… unless of course she is very cool/smart/funny but that is rare.

    “Why do the 6’s always love to play beer pong?” Because their looks alone cant get the best men so they’ve had to hone their skills in activities that appeal to men. Beer pong is popular activity among a certain subset and age range of men. These are the same girls who happen to know a lot about the NFL, wear the jerseys of their favorite teams, eat buffalo wings and drink beer on Sundays and describe themselves as laid back.

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  35. “an alpha male who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about what a bunch of preening anally pinched SWPLs think about his girlfriend will happily choose a woman of middling intelligence as long as she is hot and feminine and treats him like a king.”

    It’s funny how female hypergamy is derided here as the source of civilizational downfall while male hypogamy (desire for a partner of lesser intelligence and social status) is treated as perfectly fine and dandy.

    [editor: hypogamy is not what is in play. men don’t actively desire a partner of lesser intelligence; it’s just not that important to men in the scheme of things.]

    I kind of understand, who wants a pet who can criticize or judge you? But fundamentally, hyper- and hypo- gamy are inseperable and if the only way to keep one in check is crack down on the other.

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  36. “i’ve known many average IQ people who were more stimulating company than their mediocre educational or career attainment would predict they’d be.”

    Very true – I’m at a ~#15 university, and I’ve got a 1540 SAT – 140-150 IQ. And I’m always surprised at how dull and unintellectual/uninteresting people are here, despite being relatively intelligent (most are not as smart as me, but there are plenty smarter too). Even when people are considerably smarter, it’s usually in a nerdish way.

    It’s partly a result of a dumb popular culture – the most high brow piece of culture college kids enjoy is The Office.

    But even more so, I blame compartmentalization – it’s rare to find someone interested in something other than their major.

    From one girlfriend: “Basil, I don’t like it when you use big words, you know I don’t know what they mean.” Very endearing.

    Is it just me, or are intelligent Europeans much less nerdy than intelligent Americans?

    All else equal, higher IQ is good. But all else is rarely equal, and on average, past IQ 125, increased intelligence is negated by an increasingly substandard personality*. Its only use is smarter children.

    *May not apply to Europeans. And maybe I didn’t meet many, but I don’t recall meeting the strong undercurrent of nerdishness among high IQ euros, that’s characteristic of their American counterparts. And it seems harder to tell a 125 IQ Euro from a 150 IQ Euro, than it is for a 125 IQ American vs. 150 IQ American.

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  37. Firepower,

    “how sad it makes Firepower
    discovering that pupu
    needs to purchase
    her own drinks”

    Money is money
    Cheaper and
    faster is
    better
    !!!

    [editor:

    !!
    ?
    !

    ]

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  38. @Cliff: It’s funny how female hypergamy is derided here as the source of civilizational downfall while male hypogamy (desire for a partner of lesser intelligence and social status) is treated as perfectly fine and dandy.

    It depends on the style of “hypergamy”. Hypergamy when it inspires women to seek men of character, talent, and strength is a good thing. When it’s the female flip-side of strong-man polygyny, it’s a bad thing. The current setup favors a definition of “alpha” that rewards rotten traits and behaviors, and is therefore bad.

    @Basil: All else equal, higher IQ is good. But all else is rarely equal, and on average, past IQ 125, increased intelligence is negated by an increasingly substandard personality*. Its only use is smarter children.

    *May not apply to Europeans.

    The douchery of high-IQ Americans comes from the way our men are asexualized and our women are put on a pedestal (because of the lopsided gender ratio among HI, due to higher variance in men). It’s a defense mechanism, on the part of men, and a consequence of having it easy, for the women. In Europe, having a high (140+) IQ doesn’t automatically desexualize men, so smart people over there are a lot less bitter.

    My experience is that most high-IQ develop social skills and become normal in their mid- to late 20s. Some never do, but it’s likely that those are the people who would have been socially awkward even if their IQs were mediocre.

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  39. on October 12, 2009 at 3:38 pm ironrailsironweights

    throw his worm back into the waters for nibbles from new fish

    Unless it’s one of those gigantic earthworms from Australia, the type that kids use for playing jump rope (seriously!), that is not a very complementary term. It’s sort of like the classic line “Is that a half-roll of dimes in your pocket, or are you enjoying the strip show?”

    Peter

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  40. “how sad it makes Firepower
    discovering that pupu
    needs to purchase
    her own drinks”

    Money is money
    Cheaper and
    faster is
    better
    !!!
    [editor: Is the
    !! editor
    ? wondering
    ! about playing
    ] a fast and cheap
    game of beer
    pong
    !? ?!

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  41. All the terrific formatting was gone 😦

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  42. The shape of Pupu’s message was a ladybug!

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  43. Love the scale! What a hoot. I always saw myself as about an 8 at most. According to your scale, I must be a 9. 😉

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  44. WOW! please reread that.

    anony this is where you, yet again, mistakenly project your female wants and desires onto men. FACT: men don’t care as much as women do about intellectual or personality compatibility in a sex partner.

    seeking has a point. many men are perfectly happy with a warm body who isn’t an educated or intellectual star, but peer pressure among credentialist whoring friends (and this is a particular problem with the SWPL set) often pushes men to date within their narrow educational milieu. an alpha male who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about what a bunch of preening anally pinched SWPLs think about his girlfriend will happily choose a woman of middling intelligence as long as she is hot and feminine and treats him like a king.

    beyond a certain disparity in IQ, say 20 points or more, intellectual sex partner compatibility does become a more serious issue. a smart guy is not gonna deal for long with a dumb chick cursing at the TV when nascar is on.

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  45. on October 12, 2009 at 2:06 pm Carolus Reconditus

    A lot depends on the female ageing process, which he strangely enough seems to have factored out. My first date was a 16-year old stunner, 9 or possibly -10. No sex of course in those days (we’re talking 1965), but perchance I met her again after a period of ten years had elapsed.

    She had degenerated into a 5 or possibly 6 minus (by my standards at any rate) and I phoqued her once, more out of pity than out of desire. Bad sex at its worst but I think she was grateful I went thru the motions anyhow.

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  46. Although I can imagine how much fun it must be to have a girl so smart that she gets excited when she finds a poorly written comment on a blog.

    heh. yes, there is the downside to dating a smart chick. the squirrels running in her head NEVER SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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  47. on October 12, 2009 at 4:20 pm Biting Beaver

    This post is retarded.

    [editor: but is it rape? survey says… ]

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  48. CH:

    By focussing just on IQ, I think you are missing the point. Some very smart girls are incredibly boring. Having similar interests can’t always make up for her boring personality either.

    [editor: i know. that’s why i noted in my post that IQ is a *rough proxy* for intellectual and personality compatibility. i’ve known many average IQ people who were more stimulating company than their mediocre educational or career attainment would predict they’d be.]

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  49. Why do men want relationships with aging parasites?

    A woman’s attitude towards men is dependent on what she can extract and get away with. Women do not want relationships, other than of a parasitic nature.

    Just buy what you want, it is cheaper that way.

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  50. @H: There’s a difference, of course, between the SWPL metric of intellectual compatibility, based on credentials and education, and actual intellectual compatibility.

    I know some smart (130+) girls who’ve never finished college and work as waitresses. SWPLs would look down on me for dating someone like that, but we’d still be able to have interesting conversations. On the other hand, there are SWPL-acceptable, Ivy League girls who are just dumb or vacuous and would be boring as hell to date.

    @Seeking:

    So you think a relationship where the two people could discuss Chaucer for hours on end but have absolutely no sexual energy or intimacy is as likely to work as a relationship with lots of intimacy and love and lust but zero intellectual passion?

    I think both would fail, at least for me. I’d always feel like something was missing.

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  51. So Lucifer, you have never actually experienced having a woman love you?

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  52. I have been in multiple long and short-term relationships with hot women of middling intelligence. I ended them due to boredom, despite that they were feminine, submissive, dedicated, compassionate, etc. Now I am with an equal with whom I have a deep compatibility, and we enjoy doing the same things (including picking up girls). The pleasures of an integrated life with the person you are spending most of your time with are immense. I reflect with revulsion back on the days when I had to endure reality TV shows, celebrity gossip, and ordinary, plain conversations. It takes a while to find, but anything less than a deep compatibility is settling. I too used to rationalize being with a”complimentary” girl, but the reality is that life can be much, much better (and he is right that threesomes stave off boredom well).

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  53. ”””””’Please give
    to the Firepower Writes! For JSS Charity
    so I may be able to continue my research in finding that one piece of ass that does not disappoint

    amen
    ””””””””

    Well you have definetly given yourself a lifelong challenge. Even the greatest piece of ass at somep point you still get tired of it. That is where love comes in he he he

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  54. In Response to Lucifer :

    Houellebecq wrote something along the lines of, ‘After a while, having sex with women who don’t actually want to have sex with YOU becomes disheartening.’

    Only the most ultra-rationalist, sociopathic man is devoid of a desire to BE desired and loved.

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  55. “So Lucifer, you have never actually experienced having a woman love you?”

    Obviously not, unless you count his mother.

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  56. on October 12, 2009 at 5:04 pm Cannon's Canon

    i had my IQ tested when i was about six. how commutable is that score to my late 20s?

    btw: it’s fun seeing commenters drop their own numbers. i suspected the very high skew.

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  57. how commutable is that score to my late 20s?

    divide your current age by your age when last tested (i.e, 6). Then multiply your IQ at 6 by the result. That´s your current IQ

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  58. on October 12, 2009 at 5:18 pm Seeking Alpha

    divide your current age by your age when last tested (i.e, 6). Then multiply your IQ at 6 by the result. That´s your current IQ

    Do not do this.

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  59. the post overestimates how much men are hardwired for commitment. If anything, this post makes the common female mistake of imagining that all men are alphas

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  60. on October 12, 2009 at 5:24 pm Cannon's Canon

    gig, is that your formula for calculating US inventory levels?

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  61. Do not do this.

    as expected, the Jew wants to keep the goyim in ignorance

    is that your formula for calculating US inventory levels?

    the formula I gave you won´t allow negative values, even for blacks. To solve this problem, apply to same formula I gave you but multiply the final number by -1 if the current FED Funds rate is an odd number

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  62. Why do men want relationships with aging parasites?

    It is not a surprise that Christ forgave Mary Magdalen

    For whores, having sex with entities like Lucifer doesn´t count as a sin, but as penitence.

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  63. on October 12, 2009 at 5:38 pm Cannon's Canon

    gig, are you calling me black and stupid? if so, i am doing a satisfactory job of projecting base testosterone and non-threatening intelligence. i am now free and clear to focus on approach anxiety.

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  64. Cannon just go to all black clubs no approach anxiety they approach you. Good for training to be a ninja.

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  65. are you calling me black and stupid?

    sort of.

    i am now free and clear

    I always have this effect on people.

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  66. ””””””1 nanosecond (Neural disgust registers
    before conscious awareness)
    ”””””’

    This could be one of the drawbacks though so be carefull.

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  67. Pupu is a ladybug in sky
    In fancy outfit
    but finds it hard to fly
    She try and try
    and she cry and cry
    A ladybuy in sky
    who finds it
    hard to
    fly

    [editor:

    i am the demon in your dreams
    in robes of velveteen
    hooves and hot breath
    tumescent horns
    your little death
    cry and cry
    ladybug in sky
    down to earth
    your demon red
    desire birthed
    ignites your bed
    so hard
    hard
    time
    to love.

    ]

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  68. Not to say I haven’t been seeing ugly people everywhere I go. I mean dam it is like a fugly paradise with constant brain overload over here. Dick stays inside stomach most of the time. Unless in stripclub seems to be an almost fug free environment.

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  69. I have sent the open-borders Jew into the underworld, improved Cannon´s slef esteem by making him believe he has a high IQ and high-testosterone, humiliated Lucifer and gave a consistent and robust model for predicting US inventories for the whole audience

    all of this in half an hour.

    It must be Columbus day

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  70. “Got to define smart because my woman is not book smart she can’t read but she is the smartest person at life that I have ever met. ”

    Sounds like the ideal woman for gregi.

    Where in the 21st century does an American find a woman that cannot read?

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  71. @not too late

    The scale is decidedly off. He asserts that a woman can be a “9” for 30 years– meaning at least late-40s. I think he’s developing a soft spot for old ladies.

    [editor: in the interest of keeping the post to a blog readable length, i had to cut a few reductionist corners. but yeah, after 30 years no man who is honest with himself will be excited by the presence of his hagged out wife.]

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  72. IQ at age 6 can be quite a bit higher or lower than at maturity. This is why I don’t take people who claim an IQ of 150 to 200 very seriously, unless they’ve been tested as adults. In addition, the most common IQ tests (such as WAIS) aren’t accurate over 160 (>4 sigma.)

    Your best approximation is converting a standardized test, but even there some of the more popular conversion sites are full of crap.

    (E.g. My old SAT of 1400 converts to 144.55. I do NOT have that high an IQ — perhaps my VIQ approaches that, but PIQ is in the low 120s at best.)

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  73. “I challenge my male readers — particularly my beta readers — who have girlfriends to an asshole experiment. When your GF makes you genuinely angry I want you to yell at her “SHUT THE FUCK UP”

    I did this yesterday. … She kept going on and on about it until I did exactly as he suggested.”

    Too funny.

    No one had to tell my husband to do this. He came by it naturally!

    He says the same thing without the profanity, however.

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  74. H readers will be interested in this:

    Not All Alphas are Obvious

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  75. on October 12, 2009 at 6:00 pm Cannon's Canon

    that’s a lot of irrational exuberance just for winning an olympic bid. but… besting a few prominent blacks in a game of political grandstanding must feel good.

    yes, that’s it. gig is very happy that the charms of brazil overcame the petitioning of barack obama and oprah winfrey. he takes such pride in this occurrence because of the great esteem he holds for blacks. we may even infer that HE WISHES HE WAS BLACK!

    damn gig, i had you pegged for rational self-confidence all this time!

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  76. on October 12, 2009 at 6:02 pm Fijian in Portland

    I have a penchant for double booking my dates…
    thusly, My novelty-to-boredom ratio is very high.

    “Lady, you might wanna say something to engage me, be it funny or smart… or your getting out right here”.

    American Academic women of very HI are often passed over for being too smart, and this is deemed undesirable by most (95% If I had to guess) males. This trait makes them easy prey to effective gamesmanship.

    The smarter they are, the easier they fall. But I lose interest very quickly, and the rate is exponential post coital.

    An effective solution to making her develop an increase in novelty:

    After making sure of her buy-in, begin to game superior women within her line of sight, until you collect no less than 3 IOIs.

    All women have a competitive side, and will endeavor to recapture your interest in her.

    And if she fails, to buy herself more time, its no loss, as you already have warmed the hearts of perhaps suitable replacements (go close em).

    I, Bau have spoken.

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  77. on October 12, 2009 at 6:28 pm Cannon's Canon

    i was just sent a link to http://www.fapseek.com

    this website shows you two nudie pics and has you click on the one you prefer, eventually aggregating your votes to bring you optimal preferred content.

    it has been speculated here already that the continued refinement of available internet porn, culminating with sex-bots, will help restore “traditional western society.” this thought experiment ends with porn trumping the sexual desirability of all women below a base threshold.

    for example, i might fuck an average girl when opportunity presents itself, but i would not seek out sex with average girls if i can stay home and beat off to a high resolution POV blowjob from three chicks. i’ve eliminated rather unfeminine women from my equation.

    i originally had concluded that porn (and sex-bots) will replace 6’s and below. this will inspire women to beautify themselves (lose weight, really) and also overcompensate with increasingly doting, submissive attitudes. betas who are already ensnared by porn are not part of the equation.

    the catch is that porn will eventually start chipping away at greater betas and lesser alphas. obviously, no one who can orchestrate a three-mouth blowjob really cares about watching porn. but as porn refines, i now think it will replace women of beauty-levels previously thought “safe” from selection… yeah I am saying it; porn will replace sex with 7’s someday soon.

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  78. Fuck iq the question is:

    Can you do anything?

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  79. And to top it off:

    Have you done everything?

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  80. And finally:

    Do you rely on some outside force out of your control to support yourself?

    For the woman the question would be:

    Who do you worship?

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  81. BTW,

    “9 >-10 points 30 years (she’s too hot to notice
    tardness)”

    No…that’s not quite right.

    You do notice the tardness, you just RATIONALIZE it.

    E.g. “hey, I’m smart enough for the both of us” or (subconsciously) “maybe the kids would have her looks and my brains. This is especially easy if she possesses feminine charms.

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  82. @Cannon’s Canon:

    i had my IQ tested when i was about six. how commutable is that score to my late 20s?

    If it’s very high (160+), then not very. Childhood ratio IQs follow a log-normal distribution with mean 100 and multiplicative standard deviation of about 1.16. Adult deviation IQs, by definition, follow a (100,15) normal distribution.

    So a 160 R-IQ is actually only log(1.6)/log(1.16) = 3.167 standard deviations above the mean, or a deviation IQ of 148.

    Add to that the fact that gifted people regress to the mean a little bit as they get older. I’d say a realistic regression factor is 0.85, so that person’s likely to test at 3.167 * 0.85 = 2.691 standard deviations above the mean, or IQ 141, in adulthood. That said, don’t be misled about this: a real, adult 141 is an exceptionally good IQ. The average Ivy Leaguer is about 125.

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  83. x

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  84. on October 12, 2009 at 6:53 pm Fijian in Portland

    feministx.blogspot.com

    “Where in the 21st century does an American find a woman that cannot read?”.

    ProLiteracy estimates:

    Two-thirds of the world’s illiterate are women.

    I have also found that…

    About 1 in 7 americans (32 million) can’t read it. They’re illiterate.

    So… for every 100 women there are 96.3 men (per last Census)

    Consequently, just over 16 million american women
    cant read this post.

    Where would we find these 16 million females?

    Wherever the inequality of squalor and poverty is greatest.

    The bombed out inner city cores of Urban-i-stan, the rural stripclubs nearest highway truckstops, or the backwoods of Appalachia. (deliverance anyone?)

    I, Bau have spoken.

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  85. ””””’editor
    Although I can imagine how much fun it must be to have a girl so smart that she gets excited when she finds a poorly written comment on a blog.

    heh. yes, there is the downside to dating a smart chick. the squirrels running in her head NEVER SHUT THE FUCK UP.”””””””””””

    Got to define smart because my woman is not book smart she can’t read but she is the smartest person at life that I have ever met. She has nothing holding her back from beating the game unlike supposed smart woman who are always hamstinging themselves into being slaves. She has no problem being free and can handle that in her life. Kind of a major deal to meet someone like that.

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  86. ””””””(and he is right that threesomes stave off boredom well).”””

    Yea threesomes are a requirement to a life well lived. It can also mean you have done everything though, and grow bored with life period oh well. When you have reached perfection what the fuck else is there to look forward to. Hopefully find something.

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  87. Perhaps the same principle holds true for women.

    And perhaps it has a spiritual basis.

    Perhaps we are not meant to be monogamous to one person because it denies our connection with the All that Is.

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  88. You guys need to learn the difference between an embodiment of true masculinity and garden-variety narcissism.

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  89. I think it’s highly dependent on the man’s age or experience – a variable left out above. So, at 20, a 20-y.o. female is glorious, not only because she’s young and beautiful, but because you’re as young, inexperienced, and immature (relatively speaking) as she. at 40, a 20 y.o. female is that much more physically glorious, relatively speaking, but harder to hold your attention otherwise. Unless she’s exceptionally mature, gifted, and/or educated. Hey, wait – sounds like my wife. Geez, I’m a lucky man…

    Second Dr. Seuss reference in as many months … can we reduce attraction and mating to a series of zen-like parables for children? Thing 2 and Thing 1 – heh.

    @pupu – come out on the town with us – he and i will find you all the bourbon or beer you like – take your pick. pong not required.

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  90. Lucy
    Did it ever occur to you that if you can buy something (luv) from a woman, any other guy can buy it as well?
    Why would you value such a thing? Why not invest in an inflatable? It is a one time expense but it keeps on putting-out.

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  91. bongoman,

    who decides what “true masculinity” means? who decides what “narcissism” means?

    you?

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  92. I look at what people do, not what they say. The end result is more important than intent.

    That is why I do not believe in love. There is no advantage in being desired or liked. If I can buy better ass by paying for it than pandering to some suboptimal woman, why care about the feelings of some aging woman.

    It is all about me. I like myself because of who I am, not what others tell me about myself.

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  93. Rum,

    By that same logic, any woman who ever had sex with another guy makes you less than special.

    The difference between an escort and “your girl” is that escorts are so much more honest, fun and without hidden strings.

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  94. Erika,

    You are just another cunt trying to justify your cuntiness through sophism.

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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  95. What is wrong with being narcissistic? Every non-retarded woman that ever existed was a vain narcissistic cunt, to varying levels.

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  96. IQ is worthless.

    If it was not, how do you explain white educated clergy and seculars, in the middle ages, asking women accused of withcraft about the size and feel of the devils penis. It is curious that the most well off and educated white men in Europe until the late 1600s (in many areas) were so enamoured by the concept.

    Think about it- if the devil is not real, the joke becomes stale by the hundredth witch torture/burning.

    If the devil is real, how are you going to measure up.

    I can give many more examples of gross stupidity and idiocy perpetrated by so called high IQ people for decades and centuries.

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  97. H said ” i’ve known many average IQ people who were more stimulating company than their mediocre educational or career attainment would predict they’d be.]”

    Yeeeeessss! Score! I knew if I waited around long enough I’d have the smallest validation. 😉

    Yes, I’m aware he WASN’t talking about moi – but heck I’m average AND stimulating company (that’s what my mom said).

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  98. So you think a relationship where the two people could discuss Chaucer for hours on end but have absolutely no sexual energy or intimacy is as likely to work as a relationship with lots of intimacy and love and lust but zero intellectual passion?

    What if you really can’t have the one without the other?

    Being female, and thus attracted (sexually and emotionally) to qualities other than looks, my views may not contribute much to this discussion. (And btw, looks do count for me, though not as much as they do to most men.) Still, because I admire men who can “do things” as GSG calls it above, and because I think that book smarts are often over-rated, I was willing for years to date men with practical skills and worldly accomplishments but whose intelligence, esp. verbal intelligence – and yes, I know it’s not the only kind – was not equal to mine. It didn’t work. Either I unintentionally made such men feel insecure, which brought out a nasty streak in them, or I grew bored with their literal-mindedness and lack of imagination. I don’t demand a stratospheric IQ but the latter two qualities drive me to distraction.

    Some men feel the same way: it’s not that they want to talk Chaucer all day, but that when they say something playful, or interesting, or funny, they want to know that their girlfriends can appreciate it. A blank uncomprehending stare at some witticism is painful.

    Clio

    p.s. One of my former dates once did tell me to “stfu”, and in public too. I was outraged (and in the context, which I won’t try to describe here, I had reason to be), and I think I can safely say that he was really, really sorry for it afterwards. I didn’t do anything illegal or even immoral (except in so far as all vengeance is immoral from a Catholic perspective). I just made life difficult for him for a few days. I would advise men to be careful when and above all with whom they use this trick.

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  99. Lucifer, Gunslingergregi

    Brutus, alpha or beta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hgcC2NFwo

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  100. [editor:

    i am the demon in your dreams
    in robes of velveteen
    hooves and hot breath
    tumescent horns
    your little death
    cry and cry
    ladybug in sky
    down to earth
    your demon red
    desire birthed
    ignites your bed
    so hard
    hard
    time
    to love.

    ]

    looks like this painting
    http://www.studio-international.co.uk/studio-images/munch/weeping_b.asp

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  101. C’mon. Be nice and tell us how to game nerd women already? Us geeks want to know, and don’t you want us to pass on our genes so as to prevent Idiocracy? Like it or not we are less destructive to society than morons.

    Besides, all the smooth-talking humanities majors will pass on their genes and drag society to the left. Geeks tend to be more middle-of-the-road, so there will be a net shift to the right.

    C’mon, you want there to be people who can build bridges and discover medicines and stuff. Help the geeks breed!

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  102. Who cares if Brutus was ‘alpha’ or ‘beta’?

    Try Augustus.. Not the physically most imposing guy, but the one person without whom the roman empire (as opposed to an imperial republic) would not have been possible. Julius may have been the first roman emperor, but it was augustus who made subsequent roman emperors possible.

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  103. What is wrong with being narcissistic? Every non-retarded woman that ever existed was a vain narcissistic cunt, to varying levels.

    Well, narcissism blinds one to one’s own weaknesses; how can you make an honest assessment of your strengths and weaknesses when you are in love with yourself?

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  104. umm, Lucifer, well that comment felt jarring. Until I realized that “cunt” is yet another meaningless word.

    A cigar is not a cigar if no one agrees on what it means. Judgments are meaningless because no one can agree what they mean.

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  105. theblanque,

    I know, but try telling that to a woman.

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  106. I’d rather not.

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  107. Aliasclio,

    I can think of many legal and moral ways to put women six feet under.

    Slavery was once moral and legal. I would argue that the millions killed by Hitler, Stalin, Mao was both legal (they made the laws) and moral (enemies of the people).

    The genocide of native americans was also legal and moral. The rape of Nanking, batan death march, treatment of POWs by imperial japan was also legal and moral.

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  108. lucifer, you’re a highly intelligent moron. you are writing deliberately provocative things that make no sense after a few seconds’ cognition. either put a little more thought into your posts or go the fuck away. in fact, given your track record, stick with the latter. isn’t there some prostitute somewhere eagerly waiting to take your money away … ?

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  109. “I would argue that the millions killed by Hitler, Stalin, Mao was both legal (they made the laws) and moral (enemies of the people).”

    You’re a moron. Torture to extract confessions is neither legal nor moral. Can you please spare us from your uninformed drivel?

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  110. maurice,

    I do not pay whores any alimony or child support. Nor do I believe in the specialness of their ‘love’.

    Think about that.

    PS- I see people like you as entertainment, to justify my views about the human condition.

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  111. on October 12, 2009 at 9:36 pm The other Just saying

    I wonder how much a low IQ wife => low IQ (or mediocre) kids.

    Would a guy with an IQ lead of over 25 points be happy with that outcome?

    Dad went to college; kids flame out of trade school, etc.

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  112. lucifer – what value do you think you’re adding here with that crap? I think we all understand the narrow appeal, such as it is, of that purely nihilist view of women, sex, and the human race, without having to see it in 20+ posts per thread. We also see the massive costs and drawbacks in a way that you evidently don’t.

    Do you get a psychological charge out of posting the same kind of thing over and over again ?? Why? What do you have in common with the community of men (and women) who come here looking for insights about love, sex, relationships, and such? It wasn’t my place, strictly speaking, to tell you to “go the fuck away” just now, but a lot of us are wondering why you stick to teh same depressing shtick over and over again. At least DA is entertaining and (occasionally) funny.

    If I entertain you with my rather basic comments, then you’re sadder that I thought.

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  113. Legal is “what laws allow”, but who makes the laws?

    In the US- slavery, seggregation, anti-inter racial marriage laws were once legal.

    Morality is often based on religious beliefs, essentially voices in some guy’s head.

    Therefore various pogroms against jews could be considered moral, as could the burning of witches and heretics.

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  114. Morality is often based on religious beliefs, essentially voices in some guy’s head.

    I can hear Boethius doing revolutions as we speak.

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  115. Maurice,

    But how can you find what does not exist?

    Pussy exists, Love does not.

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  116. [email protected] j reilly reference perfect

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  117. Lucifer I fell in love with you the first time you posted. I know we’re destined to be together for all eternity and I know in your heart you know this too. I’ve been taking courses in how to be the best hooker I can be – all classes available by distance learning. Next week I graduate to camming – I’m very excited to be doing all this for you.

    You act sociopathic but I know that’s a cover for your vulnerable heart – you feel more than the average man not less. You act dumb because you have a low IQ – I don’t want IQ I want YOU!

    One day you’ll pay for my services – you’ll be unaware it’s me that will pleasure you until you see me on my knees. Our destiny will be fulfilled.

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  118. Lucy is a hate-junkie — the more hate there is in him the more he craves. The trouble is, Lucy, you see, mass manufactured hatred does not taste as good or authentic as organic ones. You should aspire to become a hate connoisseur. By then, some of us may be convinced to follow your taste. Now, you are not convincing, only weird.

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  119. @pupu – i left a comment above that has been stuck in moderation for hours. in it, i suggested you come out with us in DC – we’d find you all the bourbon and/or beer your heart could desire. no pong required either. you’d just have to meet your idols in real life. The fear/thrill of losing your anonymity would be akin to the fear/thrill of submission.

    What say you?

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  120. on October 12, 2009 at 10:09 pm Fijian in Portland

    Dear Lucifer,

    Oh how wrong you are… Love is very existent. As the hard science of neurochemistry… in fact the changes in brain pattern functioning when the same brain experiences this state are easily seen on High Def MRI screens.

    It is a neurochemical high, very similar to the high experienced by consuming an amount of chocolate.

    Dare you to say that neurochemistry induced states are non-existent.

    As for the Lawmakers being above the law…
    There exists global laws, and such things as War Crimes do exist.

    National law is not higher than the judge’s gavel at the Hague.

    Ask the sentenced ones of the Nazi regime, or Dr. Josef Mengele… who lived his life like a coward on the run for 34 years.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

    Morals:
    Conforming to a standard of “right” behaviour; sanctioned by or operative on one’s conscience or ethical judgment.

    Or

    Conduct; behavior; course of life, in regard to good and evil.

    Given that you have a malformed conscience, and are in capable of understanding what morality and ethics are…
    thusly incompetent regarding good and evil.

    You unwittingly outed yourself as clearly a psychopathic sociopath.

    Good Job Dr. Evil!

    Did the kittens cry, and the world not hear…
    When you tortured them, Lucifer?

    You sure showed them that love doesn’t exist.

    I, Bau have spoken.

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  121. “I wonder how much a low IQ wife => low IQ (or mediocre) kids.

    Would a guy with an IQ lead of over 25 points be happy with that outcome?”

    It’s quite a bit of a crapshoot. There’s regression to the mean even for two high IQ spouses.

    The wisest strategy for breeding smart kids is a smart spouse, but there isn’t a guarantee. And if the spouse is dumb but good looking the kids might have an easier life even with a lower IQ.

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  122. “Legal is “what laws allow”, but who makes the laws?”

    He who makes the laws must abide by the laws he makes. Got it?

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  123. Maurice,

    Pupu wants to remain digital. It is more fun this way.

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  124. IQ is worthless.

    If it was not, how do you explain white educated clergy and seculars, in the middle ages, asking women accused of withcraft about the size and feel of the devils penis. It is curious that the most well off and educated white men in Europe until the late 1600s (in many areas) were so enamoured by the concept.

    There is an old joke about this exact phenomena…

    A man blows a tire while driving past an insane asylum.

    He gets out to put on his spare, and is unnerved by one of the inmates staring at through the courtyard fence.

    After taking off wheel and preparing to put on the spare, he accidentally upsets the hubcap sending his five lugnuts rolling down a storm drain.

    He paces back and forth not knowing what to do when the inmate says, “Take one lugnut off of the other three wheels.”

    The driver, in stunned gratitude to the inmate says, “What is someone like you doing in there?”

    The inmate replies, “They put me in here because I’m crazy, not stupid.”

    Good joke to have on hand for a high IQ underachiever.

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  125. Fijian,

    Google ‘shiro ishii’ and ‘unit 731’. Makes joseph mengele look good.

    Ishii worked for the US after ww2. Talk about evil paying..

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  126. No one seems to have brought up that people can be intelligent in different ways.

    There is spatial intelligence, there is social intelligence, there is kinesthetic intelligence (hello Olympic athletes who overcome pain and execute in the Zone?), for example.

    I think girls (and guys) with social intelligence know how to adjust to the person they’re talking to. I think most girls who are successful with men tend t dumb down a little until they realize what “level” they guy they are talking to is at. Acting too smart in most areas (non-feminine areas), no matter how hot a girl is, will tend to emasculate.

    Social intelligence is what makes someone know how to make what they talk about interesting… how to engage with others… how to realize if the other person is spacing out or with you. The most powerful combination is probably spatial + abstract intelligence, where someone can not only read the audience but understand all sorts of complex concepts too.

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  127. There are always tradeoffs made. Let’s say my IQ is 140. if I limit myself to women with IQ > 130, I’m limiting myself to about 2% of women. Gotta drop a bit further. Many very smart women are arrogant and have this mistaken belief that their intelligence and education is a real benefit to them in the dating market. Many women with top degrees have vapid interests and unhealthy habits – especially in law school. Women of slightly less intelligence are more feminine on average.

    Boredom could be a problem, but for very intelligent men, it’s probably best to look for someone with complementary qualities. She doesn’t have to be interested in everything I am. A 115 woman would probably bore me somewhat, but to be honest, smarter women aren’t much less boring. If she’s hot, feminine, compassionate, etc, those are more important.

    So I’m willing to go 20-25 points lower in IQ or so to find someone good. Otherwise, you are severely limiting yourself. If she has a degree from a respectable university, she passes that threshold. Then it’s about other things.

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  128. I think girls (and guys) with social intelligence know how to adjust to the person they’re talking to.

    This is definitely true.

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  129. If a girl was a 9, slightly younger than me, dressed to show it off, read the economist with me at night, and also had a good career…. I would be happy. Thats pretty much all I want.

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  130. LI’LLIAR:

    I think girls (and guys) with social intelligence know how to adjust to the person they’re talking to.

    This is definitely true.

    Yes, but with a qualification: they are able to empathize and understand the inner state of the other person. Theory of Mind, if you will.

    But to constantly “adjust to the person they are talking to” is to be someone without a distinct sense of self — a social chameleon — a sociopath.

    But hey, it’s what gets the ginas a-tingling…

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  131. “If a girl was a 9, slightly younger than me, dressed to show it off, read the economist with me at night, and also had a good career…. I would be happy. Thats pretty much all I want.”

    I like a dude who can keep his expectations low.

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  132. Pupu Golightly:

    Pupu wants to remain digital. It is more fun this way.

    Digital killed the Analog Star:

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  133. on October 13, 2009 at 1:54 am Fijian in Portland

    stephen”

    Please allow me the opportunity to edit your list…

    If a girl was a 10 and brought her 8-9s friends to bed with us,

    was much younger than me,

    wore a burquah in public with fredericks of hollywood underneath,

    read the Economist article from…

    http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9149827

    about Burqah fashion highlighted: Saudi Arabia and Iran, No woman may appear in public with more than face and hands exposed.

    …with me at night, before being locked in her crate,

    and also had massaged my feet after making me a nice sandwich.

    I would be happy. Thats pretty much all I want.

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  134. ”””””explorer
    Lucifer, Gunslingergregi

    Brutus, alpha or beta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hgcC2NFwo
    ””””””””’

    Anyone chopping off limbs in a battle alpha as long as they don’t piss themselves and run away.

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  135. ”””Aliasclio,
    Still, because I admire men who can “do things” as GSG calls it above,”””””””

    I said everything. There will be plenty of time to read the books and know what the elite know after I have exhausted my current knowledge and make it. Plenty of time to live the life of leisure when retired. For now doing becoming free. Plenty of time to learn how to be a slave he he he

    Either that or I come to conclusion it is not worth the effort. I mean really look around.

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  136. How many more opportunities will there be to transcend the mundane. Martyr has a nice ring to it. Always thought that would be the way to go.

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  137. ””The wisest strategy for breeding smart kids is a smart spouse, but there isn’t a guarantee. And if the spouse is dumb but good looking the kids might have an easier life even with a lower IQ.”””’

    If you raise them to beat the game and give them the tools they need to be a freeman by 30 then what does it matter.

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  138. on October 13, 2009 at 2:32 am Fijian in Portland

    Guns, tell me…

    How fast would you get bored with this nut job?

    (Cute to Psycho ratio .50/.50)

    *Strong Adult themes Warning*

    http://girls.onlygirlvideos.com/video122928/hillary_scott_on_carebear

    and would you rate her a 7 or a 7.5?

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  139. First she would have to shave that shit but yea fuckable. Would have to see some id first just to make sure. Pretty original shit I would think but not porn connoieur. I would think you could get any woman to fuck a teddy bear like that if you where dating so as far as specialness/psycho capability I wouldn’t give her many points. Would have to see what else she could do to make a descision. Body decent tits could be bigger. But yea cute. Like I said fuckable.

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  140. on October 13, 2009 at 3:07 am Fijian in Portland

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Ghost of Nicole:

    “Smart women have squirrels, but smart men have hamsters”

    And sexual geniuses have goats!

    Yesh, I know… I keep pricing the Czech ones.

    I almost can buy one, after all, I am 40% owner in a few gentlemen’s clubs here in Portland (the number 1 strip club city in the US, TAKE THAT VEGAS!

    I, Bau have spoken.

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  141. ””””””’If a girl was a 10 and brought her 8-9s friends to bed with us,””””””””’

    I imagine your asuming in that she is loyal or does that matter. Other than that your list kind of tame he he he

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  142. Then of course after that you know she would do anything you wanted. Of course it helps if she spends almost every waking moment of her life thinking of ways to please you because why should you be expected to know everything that makes you happy.

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  143. There are of course things that will lead to insta-boredom. The girl lying to you, is one.

    Goes without saying that as she gets fatter he gets more bored.

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  144. First wife did fatten up I def got more bored.

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  145. on October 13, 2009 at 4:19 am unlearning genius

    @Lucifer,

    You are such a troll, dude and you aren’t really that smart. You are probably a book-smart bitter perpetual adolescent who uses big words like stochastic nonlinear dynamical systems, Ising models, black swans, fat tail distributions, levy flights, kurtosis and so on .. but when it comes to life is clueless .. I am glad the women are not selecting your gene for further transmission .. my progeny would be glad to not have people like you on board ..

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  146. Unlearning, Lucy is clearly a stupid sociopath. I mentioned this many months ago near to when he first started posting.

    He’s textbook sociopath. And either socially clueless or a troll – either way, useless for discourse.

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  147. Fijian, so long as she doesn’t have to have any emotional attachment to you at all, you can buy one of those in eastern Europe these days.

    You could even get one who’s Muslim, so she’d be okay with the niqaab. (Burqua are too cumbersome for western living.)

    H says, “heh. yes, there is the downside to dating a smart chick. the squirrels running in her head NEVER SHUT THE FUCK UP.”

    Smart women have squirrels, but smart men have hamsters.

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  148. So, I’m guessing you were dating someone dumber than you. Welcome to the club. Women with my hat size tend to have moustaches, so it is fortunate I’m fairly shallow. I prefer merely above average women in the brains department, who are 4 standard deviations away from average women in the agreeableness department. Because, seriously: who fucking cares how smart she is if she ain’t ironing my shirts?

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  149. Fiji in portland: “How fast would you get bored with this nut job?”

    It took me about 3 weeks. Oddly, she had a giant IQ and did impressive enough code money work she had a clue as to what I was talking about a good half of the time. No amount of brains can make up for being that much of a fruitbat, however.

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  150. I’m going to push back on the importance of having an intellectual equal (or close to it). Especially on the highest end of the spectrum.

    Your woman isn’t meant to be your debating partner anymore than she’s meant to be your Sunday football buddy or your video game partner.

    If you want to stimulate your mind, work a challenging job, read a good book, or go have drinks with a smart but liberal friend.

    But I know when I get home after talking finance and politics for 10 hours, I want a drink, some dinner, and a warm body pressed close to me.

    Amen.

    Similarity in IQ is not nearly as useful shared hobbies. Imagine you’re a sailing buff but your partner refuses to set foot on a boat. A friend of mine spends all of his summer vacations sailing – with the family. No complaints from the rest of the family.

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  151. @dana

    I can see you’re re-gaining your raised consciousness — after faking an image of a grown up woman here for some time. After I read some of your comments on another site (characterizing the men here as “autistics”), I can see you began to use the more effective techniques of shutting up men in misery: going for the jugular.

    Yes, it’s pretty obvious Lucifer never experienced that wonderful, blissfull thing called “being loved by a woman.” We, unloved men, keep scratching our heads every day how the heck the world possibly turns, how internet and cell phone networks are maintained, roads fixed, ER rooms manned, terrorists fought, lectures delivered, etc. etc. all without the indispensible assistance of being truly, TRULY loved by a narcissist who is into you because she spotted you’re alpha cock and managed to trick you into dedicating your “alpha-ness services” exclusively to her.

    “I Love Lucy” has an even more-finely-honed brain, and spotted that Lucifer is just a boy who failed to grow up. This press-the-button-hear-the-recorded-message is one of all time favorites demonstrating the Power of Women. You see, a truly powerful woman will never love a man who… has never been loved by a woman since he is… a child who has failed to grow up and made himself into something that is loveable by women. Only a she-beast can think that this chain of reasoning computes.

    “unlearning genius” is even more enlightening. He is glad that men who can comprehend all those things that Lucifer seems capable of comprehending is being weeded out of the gene pool (and being replaced by true romantics of value to women like you, dude? Now, that’s one fine display of peacockery and sucking up. Keep going, your market value — as “useful idiot support troop” — will start increasing by the minute.)

    Who would have thought that the concept of love — so much extolled by the old order since religions understand “charity” by it, a notion most essential to creating a social fabric that goes beyond dog-eat-dog competition to tingle the ginas of narcissists — would one day come to this? A neat weapon in the hands of sociopathic girlies to try to hurt men of any demonstrable value to civilization-building so that girlies can keep on playing Home Alone to their hearts’ content.

    I sound bitter, don’t I?

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  152. IQ is a bonus.

    1) Sexual chemistry, lumped together with looks.
    2) Emotional balance and cheerfulness
    3) Agreeability and submissiveness
    4) Able to understand and laugh at most of your jokes
    5) Able to make you laugh
    6) Cooking and cleaning
    7) Intellectually engaging conversation.

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  153. Nice defense abject dam. Who says lucifer is wrong. He is kind of right. Look around. Slavery sucks.

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  154. Abject, you don’t sound bitter – you sound disorganized and all over the place. Are you another hebephrenic? I read your words but can’t summarize anything from them. Other than that you, personally, don’t know how to induce love from a woman, and that you, personally, question the value of it altogether.

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  155. xsplat I don’t think it is the people in the states but the laws that make it so one sided. Would be more difficult to find love when the social conditioning and laws are so against it actually happening. Lucifer is actually on a self preservation curve but yea may find it difficult to find love. There is hope though he still has his freedom. He has choices he can make for the future. He can change his lot. Look at divorced men with kids their choices have been severely reduced.

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  156. Gunny, Lucy’s problems are not law related, or even culture related. It’s his brain that is the root of his brain related problems. His brain can’t learn game, because hes stupid and unmotivated and autistic. Usually being sociopathic would help someone with chicks. In his case it works against him as he not only can’t feel normal human emotions, but can’t imagine even intellectually the emotions of others. He is incapable of being empathetically social.

    As for how large is the effects of laws on womens unleashed hypergamy – I don’t care to speculate. But women are the same now as always. Love was always difficult, and was always elitist.

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  157. unlearning genius,

    If simple gene transmission is your objective, microbes are vastly superior to and more resilient than multicellular animals, to say nothing of humans.

    A chemoautotroph in the oceanic crust or an archeabacteria near an undersea tectonic fault WILL transmit it’s genes much better than you ever will. They have been around for billions of years and have survived everything that the universe could throw at them, and will be around long after everything else on the earth is dead.

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  158. Is it just me, or are intelligent Europeans much less nerdy than intelligent Americans?

    By nerdiness you mean narrowly focused? I would imagine there is stronger pressure in North America and the USA in particular than in Europe to put into economic use whatever intellectual strengths or interests one has, the difference between North America and Eastern Europe being particularly noticeable.

    That is one of the downsides of advanced capitalism. As the markets for goods and services have to expand to keep up the built-in expansion of the financial market to keep monetary chaos and social disruption at bay, they not only expand geographically but also in the sense that new facets of life are brought into the sphere of the economy. One of those spheres is the life of the mind. (I been asked more times I bother to count whether I “should become a professional” go player, which question I considered laughable to anyone knowing the gap between amateur and professional dan-level skills until I recently found out there were several players of roughly my level on Kiseido Go Server offering lessons for money). Another is social life in general and even family relationships as in the case of relatives-for-hire in Japan!

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  159. on October 13, 2009 at 6:01 am unlearning genius

    @Abject Man,

    “”“unlearning genius” is even more enlightening. He is glad that men who can comprehend all those things that Lucifer seems capable of comprehending is being weeded out of the gene pool (and being replaced by true romantics of value to women like you, dude? Now, that’s one fine display of peacockery and sucking up. Keep going, your market value — as “useful idiot support troop” — will start increasing by the minute.) ”

    Actually you seem not to understand peacocking display deeply enough. It works by the handicap principle .. It signals to the female ..”look i can spot this huge feather and still save myself from predators .. so mate with me ..bitch”
    By this token, exactly what handicap am i displaying and pray tell me to whom am i signaling?

    sucking up? to who dude? my “market value” as “idiot support troop” .. will start increasing. So yer telling me that I need to work my way up? Tut ..Tut ..so much hostility and you do not even know me.

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  160. “So ironically, the more women you have actually gone through.. the less excited you will be. ”

    Why am I the only one who mentions that a hedonistic life strategy is moderation?

    Sure, Buddhists are always harping on about the middle way, neither hedonism nor ascetism. Wrong. Go for hedonism, effectively. It’s innefective to the persuit of life satisfaction to lose the ability to love and to the enjoyment of it.

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  161. Xsplat,

    You want to ride a horse into battle, I just prefer to use a machinegun.

    So how did cavalry charges fare against the maxim gun in ww1?

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  162. Wow – spot on metaphor, Lucy! Holy shit, I’m so impressed I crapped all over the bed.

    Try it out on the girls – worth a go, right?

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  163. And why would I exhibit self-deprecating humor? What is in it for me?

    I cannot make myself see what does not exist.

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  164. I look at only one measure- outcome.

    So if I want a 20- something hottie, I can:

    1. Pay 200-300 $/hr after a little research on escort review boards.

    2. Try to get a bitch sleep with me for “free”.

    Option 1 has lower total cost, and no hidden strings. Option 2 had higher total cost and hidden strings.

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  165. on October 13, 2009 at 6:25 am unlearning genius

    @xsplat,

    “Why am I the only one who mentions that a hedonistic life strategy is moderation? ”

    wow ..buddhism and all …no brother .. i am no monk. The basis for my argument is purely neurological. The pleasure center of the brain is involved in any hedonistic pursuit and the more it is triggered, the more it ratchets its threshold. This is similar to other addictive processes. I am not speaking out of my ass brother. I have torched my pleasure center any which way you can imagine. Girls, gambling, drugs, alchohol, travel, adventure sports, money, law-breaking, killing small animals for pleasure .. there certainly is a saturation effect.

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  166. Yes, unlearning, we are in agreement.

    The baseline level of satisfaction falls with too much stimulation, and rises with periods of prolonged quiet general attentiveness.

    We need both stress and rest.

    It’s important to have an overarching philosophy of life satisfaction. A philosophy grounded in history of effectiveness.

    With women, be effective, but not dissipative.

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  167. Lucifer – consider this. Why not make your same point 1000 times, no more.

    Or choose your own number. A million?

    As long as you give me some hope that you will eventually go away, my future looks brighter.

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  168. on October 13, 2009 at 6:43 am unlearning genius

    @Lucifer,
    Two fucking words: SOUR GRAPES. We all see it very well indeed.

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  169. on October 13, 2009 at 6:47 am Epoxytocin No. 87

    As long as you give me some hope that you will eventually go away, my future looks brighter.

    Eh.

    Au contraire, I find it’s always nice to find that your putative competition (however indirect) is not only inferior, but actually dedicated to its inferiority.

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  170. “but actually dedicated to its inferiority.”

    I’ve had close interpersonal relations with people with alternate personalities.

    Figuring out how broken brains work gives little benefit, compared to the cost.

    Understanding the Lucifers of the world is less valuable than being able to avoid them.

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  171. Lucy’s analysis:

    “I look at only one measure- outcome.

    So if I want a 20- something hottie, I can:

    1. Pay 200-300 $/hr after a little research on escort review boards.

    2. Try to get a bitch sleep with me for “free”.

    Option 1 has lower total cost, and no hidden strings. Option 2 had higher total cost and hidden strings.”

    He assumes a negative sum of value of all possible strings attached with a long-term relationship. It reveals a fundamental lack of trust in positive human nature.

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  172. on October 13, 2009 at 5:52 am unlearning genius

    @Lupo,
    Agreed. Men requiring women to be intelligent is similar to women whining that they need sensitive men. Truth is these qualities are icings on the cake .. rarely deal breakers.. . ..at least for those of us that like to deal with reality.

    @H,
    A truth about life though is that the smarter and more observant you are, the quicker you start to bore, the heightened your need is for novelty and taller your barrier for excitement. This is true of women as well. So ironically, the more women you have actually gone through.. the less excited you will be.

    @xsplat,
    There is no redeeming self-deprecating humor in his posts at all. It is a tape that goes
    > women are worthless
    > I am above all kinds of judgments
    > I like sex
    > women have decided not to give me sex for free
    > I like to pay for sex
    > I do not like white people
    > white race will die off
    > You are all worthless

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  173. Lucifer returned to his usual mode of making incoherent arguments through unrelated sentences.

    the thing is, sex with hookers, no matter how hot they are, will always have a “loser” label attached to it. You can see it by the despise women have for men who use hookers

    hookers, to be fun, require some sort of orgy and friends involved. Girl swap, the Clintonesque use of cigars in girls´ sexual organs, strip tease, neighbours complaining aboutt the noise and empty whisky bottles in the floor. Weekends with hookers in the countryside make for memories for the rest of your life, also

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  174. There are parallels between dealing with women and the entertainment business.

    A few successes can be built on, and it’s an up and down enterprise. Big success is possible. Staying in the game as a B grade movie producer is possible. Losing is guaranteed for some.

    Charisma. Social intelligence.

    Sales, and the entertainment business, and dealing with women are big business. Big money.

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  175. on October 13, 2009 at 8:03 am Epoxytocin No. 87

    @ Pupu

    He assumes a negative sum of value of all possible strings attached with a long-term relationship. It reveals a fundamental lack of trust in positive human nature.

    Nah, it definitely runs deeper than that.

    I don’t trust “positive human nature” at all. I once did – in the same way that many conservatives were once liberals, before they were (literally or figuratively) mugged – but I’ve since grown up.
    But I can definitely see the value in a long-term relationship. Especially in the … long term.

    In any case, Pupu, note that Lucifer is not only dissing the value of long-term relationships – he’s even dissing the value of sex that a woman wants to have.

    I just had a chilling thought:

    CHILLING THOUGHT OF THE DAY

    It is possible that beta/herb men get the same type of sex from their girlfriends/wives that they would get from an “escort”.

    Emotionless, frigid, clock-watching sex, which, if infused by any sort of passion at all, is infused by utter revulsion.

    That is depressing. I need to stop this, right now.

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  176. It is possible that beta/herb men get the same type of sex from their girlfriends/wives that they would get from an “escort”.

    Emotionless, frigid, clock-watching sex, which, if infused by any sort of passion at all, is infused by utter revulsion

    I was trying to make this point in a more oblique way. It is ahrd, but it is true. And probably most of the emotional damage whoring does to whores is due not only to excessive number of sexual partners, but the extremely high proportion of lowstatus sexual partners among those

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  177. beta/herb men get the same type of sex from their girlfriends/wives that they would get from an “escort”.

    I’d say this is analogous to the listless sex a man will have with his fat wife. Therefore: women, don’t get fat. Men, don’t become beta/herb.

    The beauty of Game, LTR game in this case, is that it is theoretically accessible to all men who are capable of getting married.

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  178. on October 13, 2009 at 8:24 am Epoxytocin No. 87

    And probably most of the emotional damage whoring does to whores is due not only to excessive number of sexual partners, but the extremely high proportion of lowstatus sexual partners among those

    Yep. That’s whoring.

    Whoring = damaging, from excessive number of low-status partners.

    Slutting = damaging, from excessive number of high-status* partners.

    …and that, my friends, is the difference.

    *a relative term. i.e., “out of her league for an ltr, but not for a fuck”.

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  179. Scorecards are held up for the Epoxy post.

    9, 9.5, 8

    The third judge was female.

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  180. In “Pretty Woman,” which I saw in 1990 so I don’t remember much, but which has since become an iconic movie on the subject of whoring: did it turn out in the end that Julia Roberts’ character never in fact slept with a john because Gere’s character was her first streetwalking client?

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  181. If so, PA, that was not a representation of male sexuality, but of women anti-slut aggression.

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  182. abject sock puppet

    ooh zing

    i have characterized myself as autistic proudly as well oohh bam pow ya got me!

    many high iq and high visuo spatial intelligence males exhibit autistic/aspergers traits as those appear to be extreme masculine mind traits, as opposed to williams syndrome (pixy syndrome) which is the opposite of autism and seems to be extreme feminine mind.

    as i myself exhibit those traits, several male posters here do as well as do most people who test as intjs–and they know it.

    as for regaining my “raised consciousness”, uh–what? you can’t regain what you never had or what you don’t even accept as a concept. that wasn’t feminist shaming language it was an accurate observation about a poster who eschews even the existence of love and devotion, let alone its worth, on a site that frequently discusses how to inspire and maintain that love and devotion (aka attraction) in LTRs.

    and i have been quiet because with the exit of Welmer, Nova, Whiskey, Tupac, Thursday, Doug, Esquire, Vladimir et al the level of discourse in here has dropped below interest level–though watching that new “I, Bau” persona evolve itself after the spectacularly gay and phony Ruby fail has been interesting.

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  183. Meaning, women have a social movement to slame sluts.

    That’s a women’s interest.

    I know Whiskey and other losers hate sluts. But a man who can induce love out of a slut is not anti slut. The slutty is not the problem.

    The problem is the ease of love inducement.

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  184. Slutting = damaging, from excessive number of high-status* partners.

    a whore is a woman who sleeps with anyone. a slut is a woman who sleeps with anyone but you.

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  185. on October 13, 2009 at 9:18 am Epoxytocin No. 87

    But a man who can induce love out of a slut is not anti slut. The slutty is not the problem.

    Heh.

    One of the surest indicators of a man’s status with women is if, at his command, sluts* will stop slutting around.

    I know Whiskey and other losers hate sluts

    Heh. Maybe.
    It’s possible that they hate the game, not the players.

    They could just as well hate the players, though.
    Easy to do.
    Especially when you can’t even get into the stadium, let alone onto the field.

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  186. @dana

    Thanks for the name-calling. What is a “sock puppet”? English is not my native tongue, and I’m not up to date on the latest idioms.

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  187. @unlearning genius “…killing small animals for pleasure”

    Are you mentally ill? Honest question.

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  188. and i have been quiet because with the exit of Welmer, Nova, Whiskey, Tupac, Thursday, Doug, Esquire, Vladimir et al the level of discourse in here has dropped below interest level

    When and why did all these people exit? Did something happen?

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  189. What follows is a handy chart illustrating Time To Boredom for the average man (male dating value rank = 5 on a scale of 0 – 10 inclusive) based on the two critical variables of female beauty and IQ.

    This is really earth shaking information. Where did you get this? From The Bureau of Meaningless Statistics?

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  190. on October 13, 2009 at 4:14 pm Fijian in Portland

    gig:

    whore is a woman who sleeps with anyone. a slut is a woman who sleeps with anyone but you

    A correction sir, if you please.

    1. A whore is a professional woman who sleeps with anyone for money.

    2. A slut is a woman who who sleep with anyone.

    3. A bitch is a woman who is a slut to everyone but you.

    I, Bau have spoken.

    “Woman’s destiny is to be wanton, like the bitch, the she-wolf; she must belong to all who claim her.”

    Marquis De Sade 1740-1814

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  191. on October 13, 2009 at 4:30 pm Fijian in Portland

    dana:

    though watching that new “I, Bau” persona evolve itself after the spectacularly gay and phony Ruby fail has been interesting.

    Please inform me on which thread this occurred, I may need to address it.

    Sometimes I don’t get to read every post.

    After all, I do have a life. (Not saying that “You” specifically dont, but most of the others here, well… the proof is in the pudding)

    I, Bau blah blah blah

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  192. But higher IQ is known to correlate with lower libido. (See http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php) So high IQ women are likely to not want sex very often. A high IQ woman who looks like a 9 or 10 won’t hold your interest once you find out how low her drive is.

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  193. ””””’CHILLING THOUGHT OF THE DAY

    It is possible that beta/herb men get the same type of sex from their girlfriends/wives that they would get from an “escort”.

    Emotionless, frigid, clock-watching sex, which, if infused by any sort of passion at all, is infused by utter revulsion.

    That is depressing. I need to stop this, right now.
    ””””””’
    That is chilling.

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  194. ”””””Joe
    and i have been quiet because with the exit of Welmer, Nova, Whiskey, Tupac, Thursday, Doug, Esquire, Vladimir et al the level of discourse in here has dropped below interest level

    When and why did all these people exit? Did something happen?
    ””””””””
    Aww the ebs and flows are a good thing.

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  195. The best thing to do with a smart girl is nut in her mouth. They tend to give above average head, because they pay attention, but it’s the willing submission to degradation, the undeniable polarity of it — that and the fact that you’re hitting her where she lives (in her head) — that make it such an exquisite joy.

    Lucifer, no one is fooled by this rationalization, no matter how often you repeat it. Least of all you. If your little plan really worked, would you feel the need to come here and ask a bunch of strangers to validate it/you, over and over again?

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  196. on October 14, 2009 at 1:19 am msexceptiontotherule

    “feministx.blogspot.com
    “Got to define smart because my woman is not book smart she can’t read but she is the smartest person at life that I have ever met. ”…

    Sounds like the ideal woman for gregi…

    Where in the 21st century does an American find a woman that cannot read?”

    I don’t know about where to find a woman who can’t read in the current time in America. However, I can probably say with reasonable accuracy where to find a man who is illiterate. I had a guy who was always sitting behind me thanks to alphabetical order seating arrangements used by teachers from k-12; he liked the fact that I usually was able to breeze through the entire reading portion done in class without taking a breath long enough for the teacher to have me stop so that the next student could continue with where I left off. It turns out, he was functionally illiterate and probably still is – I guess that’s what sometimes happens to guys whose only encouragement involves their playing sports.

    Were I to make an argument that I knew through proof by example only, that there are no women who are illiterate in America today, I’d find myself in the midst of a logical fallacy. Simply because I don’t know any myself, doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.

    —————-
    “Gunz:

    Fuck iq the question is:

    Can you do anything?”

    I can do lots of things, though some of them (like the state of being a dialetheian paradox, or taking up a side in an argument simply because it was previously not represented even if I don’t agree with whatever the basic points of said side are based upon. ) would require someone to have a high enough IQ to appreciate. But I find that everyone appreciates cookies, and I make a hell of a meatloaf, though the BBQ scares me since I already light myself on fire quite often enough when I ash as it is.

    “And to top it off:

    Have you done everything?”

    Of course not, though I should warn you that I do not have a list of things that I would never do, because no one is supposed to know it exists. (oops).

    “And finally:

    Do you rely on some outside force out of your control to support yourself?….

    Does that include the U.S. Treasury? My checks come from there, so yeah, if the whole economic thing collapses in on itself and makes the dollar only useful as wallpaper…and I advocate against co-mingling of funds completely, even when married I would advise against it. I know it’s supposed to be some stupid display of trust and committment, which is ridiculous. Maybe wanting to keep all of what was mine alone before the mr. without having to consult about something that was mine; maybe the fact that I know my parents are the rare example of being able to manage budgets and finances in a complimentary fashion rather than constantly bouncing checks because neither balanced the damn checkbook or said anything about writing a check to anyone like most of the couples I’ve known throughout my life; it’s probably a combination of all of these things, and having a strong dislike for being less than completely autonomous with what I earn once the bills and miscellaneous funds have been taken care of first of course.

    “For the woman the question would be:

    Who do you worship?”

    Is this the part where I say something silly like..how can you even ask such a question? You know I worship you and shoes!

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  197. on October 14, 2009 at 2:13 am Gunslingergregi

    I see you premtively expanded the list I asked for.

    ”’Sally’s typical way of disagreeing with John is a consequent utterance of ¬P. Yet, if we accept dialetheism, Sally’s so uttering does not prevent her from also accepting P; after all,””””

    I do find that interesting.

    The question would be would you look down to see if I had or had not placed the stuntman cushion before you jumped off the cliff?

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  198. on October 14, 2009 at 2:27 am Gunslingergregi

    “””You know I worship you”””

    he he he

    Dang I am a god little g.

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  199. on October 14, 2009 at 6:19 am msexceptiontotherule

    Gunslingergregi:

    “The question would be would you look down to see if I had or had not placed the stuntman cushion before you jumped off the cliff?”

    Of course not, but that’s because I don’t put anything past anyone. There’s nothing more avoidable than finding out someone IS capable of something you assumed they weren’t capable of.

    Now shush, I’m trying to stalk you, and you’re ruining my concentration 😉

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  200. on October 14, 2009 at 6:20 am msexceptiontotherule

    Oh yeah, and if you hadn’t placed the stuntman cushion, who’s to say you wouldn’t push me over when I was looking anyway? It’s a “I’m gonna jump regardless” kind of day.

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  201. on October 14, 2009 at 11:02 am Gunslingergregi

    But thats the beauty of it when you give yourself completely you may know happiness. I am content to forever be the tortured soul and bear the burden of leadership.

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  202. on October 14, 2009 at 11:02 am Gunslingergregi

    ”””’It’s a “I’m gonna jump regardless” kind of day.””

    lol

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  203. on October 14, 2009 at 11:07 am Gunslingergregi

    Just a thought on new avitar wtf is that. I see you are working on a new disguise.

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  204. my life is the most stable when i’m in two concurrent consistent relationships. the amount of random girls on the side virtually stops, i find myself looking around less….it’s about as faithful as i ever manage to maintain.

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  205. Time to boredom is about two seconds reading this blog.

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  206. “many high iq and high visuo spatial intelligence males exhibit autistic/aspergers traits as those appear to be extreme masculine mind traits, as opposed to williams syndrome (pixy syndrome) which is the opposite of autism and seems to be extreme feminine mind.

    as i myself exhibit those traits, several male posters here do as well as do most people who test as intjs–and they know it. ”

    There is nothing wrong with being on the autistic spectrum. Men here ought to be flattered; to be autistic is to have a brain that stereotypically male.

    But autistic traits do not an autistic make.

    I am bright, test as an INTJ, have plenty of autistic traits, and yet have deficits in my visual-spacial intelligence and am empathetic, socially and verbally adept, and nurturing. I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child, but autism was never a question…

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  207. on October 14, 2009 at 10:14 pm msexceptiontotherule

    Bonnie: well, then telling you I’m an ENTP will actually have a point because you’ll know what I was talking about.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Gunslingergregi: I’ve said too much already, wouldn’t want to give up all of my secrets that easily.

    Though it’s very apparent how well fluttering of lashes and the attitude of a minx work to get more than a lion’s share of everything one’s little heart desires. At least in most things.

    “Frankly my dear Scarlett, I don’t give a damn.”

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  208. Yea transferrence of power can get fucked up when not having sex. When having sex not as much matters because there is always that tranfer of physical power that can be felt.

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  209. on October 15, 2009 at 3:04 am msexceptiontotherule

    gunz: I’ll give you a transfer of physical power.

    What? I didn’t say it would actually be from *me*! 😉

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  210. Well if ya read it ya kind of did.

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  211. on October 15, 2009 at 3:23 am msexceptiontotherule

    oooohh I did not! For all you know, I could have meant….oh nevermind. Fine, but don’t say I didn’t warn you.

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  212. on October 15, 2009 at 3:26 am msexceptiontotherule

    …my dog is adorable…I must go fight with her (and restart my computer) so she stops hitting me with her ‘baby’.

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  213. you shouldn’t mess with lucifer like that iloveluci. He could never endure god’s love and it asked little of him. How could he endure a woman’s which will ask his very soul?

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