Old School Strong, Silent Dad Game

A hilarious field report from Ironsides, about his dad meeting his mom,

According to my mother, my dad’s entire conversation during most of their first date consisted of one word: “Hello.”

They did go out to eat, while she chattered away and he remained absolutely silent, after which he drove her back to her parents’ house. He didn’t open the car door for her.

This apparently intrigued her enough so that she thought ‘I’m not getting out of this car until he asks me out again.’ They sat there silently for several minutes until my dad said, “Let’s go out next week.” That completed his entire verbal effort for the evening.

Considering that they’re still married a number of decades later, the strong, silent approach apparently worked.

Postscript: they actually DIDN’T go out the next week. My dad’s uncle, who he hadn’t seen since before he joined the Army, came to the state and stayed for two weeks. Since he was about the only close-ish relative my dad liked, they spent the time chewing the fat, going out shooting, etc., and my dad didn’t call my mother back at all until his uncle left. She says by the time he did call up, she was in an absolute frenzy to hear from him.

I don’t even think this was particularly deliberate on his part, just the way his personality was at that point; I’ll have to ask him.

One part dread, one part jerkboy, one part challenge, one part scarcity (aka abundance mentality). And all of it subcommunicated with an economy of words. Ironsides’ dad followed the CH Poon Commandments before they were written down for the masses.

One thing you’ll notice if you date a lot of women is that while women are chattier than men on average, some women are chattier than other women. For the loquacious ladies, letting them blab while you laconically punctuate their verbosity with occasional pithy insights or sexy innuendo is just the balance that those women need. (Don’t try to out-gab a gabby woman, because she’ll never let you and she’ll get annoyed, draining the sexual tension from the date.) For less garrulous gals, you’ll want to speak more, to rev up the conversation before it stales out.


  1. In some instances if the man is silent and the woman’s rambling, doesn’t she at some point get nervous at this and then ramp up the talking? Is this where her hamster’s rolling at 10,000 RPM questioning “why is he quiet? what did I say/do wrong?”

    Or are we at the point where women don’t even remotely consider anything like that and just talk to talk since it’s all about them?


    • on December 7, 2017 at 11:38 pm Diversity Is Good

      In some instances if the man is silent and the woman’s rambling, doesn’t she at some point get nervous at this and then ramp up the talking? Is this where her hamster’s rolling at 10,000 RPM questioning “why is he quiet? what did I say/do wrong?”


      Or are we at the point where women don’t even remotely consider anything like that and just talk to talk since it’s all about them?</i



    • Yup… A great move is to look around while she is rambling on… then when she is trying to meet your eyes, chasing your face around – you say something to her. But not in response to what she is saying. You start a new thread “look squirrel!!!” and then do it over again. finish up with pulling her in for a kiss, or leading her out by the hand “let’s go take a walk”…

      literally nothing she is saying matters one bit. Pick up on the other cues – she is engaged, she is trying to get you engaged (qualifying) she is following your lead (change of topics etc.) and she is there… close to you. That is understanding Catonese…


  2. on December 7, 2017 at 2:01 pm Gregory Daniel Nikolic

    I disagree with Heartiste.

    [CH: you’re not really disagreeing with me.]

    I’m a VERY good talker, and a born raconteur and story-teller. Women, whose poor storytelling and smooth monotone can be actually painful to their OWN ears, relish these traits.

    [when have i said that women don’t love men who are good at telling stories?]

    If you out-talk them, they will appreciate it. Heartiste underestimates how bored these poor, little creatures are.

    [non sequitur]


    • on December 7, 2017 at 2:23 pm Wilbur Hassenfus

      “I think I’m a good talker. Therefore all men should talk a lot.”

      He wasn’t talking about you. But if you share the female habit of assuming that every general remark is an invitation to talk about yourself, I guess you really do talk like a woman. I mean, like a yappy, self-involved dominant alpha male who rattles on about nothing while you tune out and check out the waitress’s ass. Yeah.


    • I’m more and more convinced every day that lambda is simply gamma on steroids.


    • It’s the x-farter guy with another new name. Same ghey writing style.

      Fuck off, douche.


  3. on December 7, 2017 at 2:04 pm Oliver Elkington

    I always find that talking a little is much better than talking a lot, women do not actually find what men have to say that interesting, especially young women, it is all about them. A guy is better off just saying a few things in order to keep the conversation going and that is that. Men who talk a lot appear anxious to please the girl more than anything, don’t be like that.


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  5. Somewhat off-topic… One of the girls I’m seeing on the side has been texting me this afternoon about our next meetup, when she just dropped this text on me: “This might sound terrible, but I’m used to having the upper hand. I don’t with you.” This is just a few minutes after she texted that she has “cared for” other guys in the past, but she “craves” me.

    I credit a lot of this to the Poon Commandments, specifically the first one, (she said it first, I haven’t said it yet) IV, and VII. (Or, in my case, three.) Thanks again as always, CH!

    [CH: you’re welcome!]


  6. Listening to a woman talk is unbearable.


  7. Hate to be the negative Nelly here, but I don’t think that scenario would play out today. Today she’ll be on her phone if you don’t play “entertainer/clown” and that several minutes of sitting in the car would have been her on her phone. That two weeks wait? She will run half a mile of cock through her in that time and then when he called she would have forgotten.

    Nice quaint story of the days of olde though. Maybe after the war it’ll be like that again.


    • Nah, it still works today – I know, because I’m living it. The fact she’s overstimulated with iPhags etc (thanks CO) and inundated with thirsty dudes on dating apps just serves to make her remember *even more* the man who doesn’t play by her rules, because he seems an even a rarer commodity by comparison.


      • Yeah dating apps are 100% thirsty fags ;] ;D


        If women dont want you to be their secret fuckbuddy and you arent part of the Secret Society, youre being played.


      • Heh, heh… “Secret Society”… do they have a special handshake? :duckface

        Youse yeggs have been watching Seinfeld again, ain’t ya? 😉


    • “Today she’ll be on her phone if you don’t play “entertainer/clown” ”

      You should be able to shame her off her phone “oh wait – is there an urgent cat video? Or did Beyonce just tweet something profound?” Smirk. Hold frame.

      And if that don’t work “here let me see that…” and put it in your pocket…


  8. If this had occurred today then she would have hit up tinder and fucked a couple guys by the time he had called her back; she probably wouldn’t even have responded to him either

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    • on December 7, 2017 at 5:26 pm traitors first

      “If this had occurred today ……” She would have been a tatted up whore that would have divorced him before the second kid was named and that’s assuming either kid was his. There is a reason that story above works and has the ending it has.


  9. This type of stuff worked when people lived in small communities and every interaction with the opposite sex was meaningful. Modern day overstimulation does not allow for more than a nanosecond of boredom. The story describes the way things should be, but not present reality.

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  10. Would never exist now a days. She’d be on tinder while sitting in the car.


  11. on December 7, 2017 at 5:44 pm Oswald Spengler

    President Calvin Coolidge was a man of few but memorable words.

    Both his dry Yankee wit and his frugality with words became legendary. His wife, Grace Goodhue Coolidge, recounted that a young woman sitting next to Coolidge at a dinner party confided to him she had bet she could get at least three words of conversation from him. Without looking at her he quietly retorted, “You lose.”



  12. There’s laconic and there’s shy and tongue-tied. Being sparse with words isn’t alpha by itself, it has to be accompanied by non-verbal tells of alpha.


  13. In this line of work, the one thing you don’t want is…

    air in the conversation.


  14. on December 7, 2017 at 11:42 pm Diversity Is Good

    Most people can’t abide silence. Women especially will try to fill it up with words. Silence is a great tool for many purposes. If you are chatty, just stop sometime and see how she reacts.


  15. Now I see why Ironsides is my kind of man…

    … he comes from good stock. 😉

    Fun fact: “good stock” used to be common parlance among White folks, usually mentioned in reference to prospective sons- and daughters-in-law that found favor with the paterfamilias.