Science Proves Me Right… Again

A while back, this Chateau post caused veins to bulge on the foreheads of haters. It was about instilling the dread of an impending breakup or loss of interest to promote a healthy relationship.

Women respond viscerally in their vagina area to unpredictability, mixed signals, danger, and drama in spite of their best efforts to convince themselves otherwise. Managing your relationship in such a way that she is left with a constant, gnawing feeling of impending doom will do more for your cause than all the Valentine’s Day cards and expertly performed tongue love in the world. Like it or not, the threat of a looming breakup, whether the facts justify it or not, will spin her into a paranoid estrogen-fueled tizzy, and she’ll spend every waking second thinking about you, thinking about the relationship, thinking about how to fix it. Her love for you will blossom under these conditions. Result: she works harder to please you.

The key for the man is to adopt a posture of blase emotional distance alternated with loving tenderness. Too much of either and she’ll run off.

Oh, how the haters swooned with indignation over my helpful advice. “You’re such a jokester”, said the disbelievers, somewhat nervously. “That’s a good way to end a relationship prematurely”, said the dating advice columnists. “It only works on girls with low self esteem”, said the shibboleth spouters.

Well, well, welly welly well… look what we have here!

Uncertainty Can Increase Romantic Attraction.

This research qualifies a social psychological truism: that people like others who like them (the reciprocity principle). College women viewed the Facebook profiles of four male students who had previously seen their profiles. They were told that the men (a) liked them a lot, (b) liked them only an average amount, or (c) liked them either a lot or an average amount (uncertain condition). Comparison of the first two conditions yielded results consistent with the reciprocity principle. Participants were more attracted to men who liked them a lot than to men who liked them an average amount. Results for the uncertain condition, however, were consistent with research on the pleasures of uncertainty. Participants in the uncertain condition were most attracted to the men-even more attracted than were participants who were told that the men liked them a lot. Uncertain participants reported thinking about the men the most, and this increased their attraction toward the men.

This study’s results confirm the “Dread” post to the letter, although I used slightly more… ornamental… language to get the point across. (Consider my methods a social experiment  — a sort of crisis and observation — designed to get under the skin, with exquisite pain amplification, of those predisposed to hate the message here, and to observe how many of you can handle the truth when it is stripped of all its sugarcoating.)

I don’t need the science to certify what I can already see with my own two eyes, but it’s nice to have it so that I can do the happy Snoopy dance and throw it in the faces of the usual tard crew. Weep those tears of unfathomable sadness, femcunts and nancyboys.

Naturally, some skirt-twirling teacups will chime in and attempt to muddy the waters by caviling about how men are susceptible to uncertainty game as well, while neglecting to mention the difference in degree between the sexes. Sure, men can fall for the Chateau patented dread psy ops, but they don’t fall for it nearly as often, or with the same intensity, as do women. Vulnerability to dread game is predominantly a female phenomenon.

Chateau Motto (posted at the gate):
Come for the truth, stay for the mindfucking of your enemies.





Comments


  1. “Sure, men can fall for the Chateau patented dread psy ops, but they don’t fall for it nearly as often, or with the same intensity, as do women.”

    How do you know this? There are plenty of chumps who end up married to women well below their potential. For every hot chick nailing an unemployed but roguish ex-con, there’s likely a decent-looking rich dude married to a frumpish, overweight harridan who made him sincerely believe she was his best or only option.

    [Editor: Doubtful there are as many of the latter as the former. But I suppose you might believe that if you live on planet pretty lies. In the meantime, check in with those rich guys married to frumps and see how many of them have hot mistresses.]

    I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying you probably don’t date a representative sample of straight men (or straight women),

    [Define a representative sample of straight women.]

    so you’re basically talking out of your ass when you say this works better on women than on men. It doubtlessly works better on some women than some men, but it probably also works better on some men than some women. You just don’t have any basis besides your own mental self-fondling to figure out exactly where it does more.

    [It didn’t take long for the first tard to pop his rotund prairietard head out from the burrow on this post.]

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  2. The haters you get elsewhere on the internets, good sir, can be identified immediately as worthless retards by their reflexive recourse to ad hominem.

    Such retards are sickened when you rob them of the ability to lazily and cravenly resort to poising the well in response to arguments that upset them, when the speaker cannot be targetted. For example, the response “bitter failure” cannot be imputed to a highly successful person. The response “failed PhD” cannot be imputed to a professor at a top tier university (who argues against, say, the tenure system). This is a highly enjoyable way to own fucktards and punish them and enjoy their blunt pain. Success with women – while mindfucking your enemies – is a beautiful thing to witness.

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  3. Indeed, a clockwork orange was awesome

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  4. I think your use of “dread” is way too strong. In fact, the research you cite suggests that if women believed that the men thought negatively of them (“dread”), they would in turn express dislike. This is a defense mechanism that I have often observed in women.

    It is the uncertainty that gets the hamster running. And more often than not, its the positive uncertainty, not the negative ‘dread’ uncertainty. When a girl has picked you out as her target, and she is uncertain if you feel the same way, her impression for you is at its most unrealistic high favorability.

    [Editor: My experience, and the experience of men who know a thing or two about women, tells me that “negative” uncertainty is just as powerful, if not more so, than “positive” uncertainty. (If a difference can even be claimed to exist.) Have you ever delayed answering a phone call from a GF, only to get a rapid fire succesion of calls from her leaving messages that sound progressively more frantic? This is how female stalkers are created.]

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  5. Hey, babe, you’re hot… now, justify my love!

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  6. Be honest Roissy, did you filch this link from Tyler Cowen?

    [Editor: Please, we call that man by his real name here: Cheap Chalupas Cowen.]

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  7. on December 23, 2010 at 5:14 pm david letterman

    another great advancement in the field of pussyology

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  8. It’s almost as if the women have no idea what they are talking about…

    It’s almost as if men shouldn’t listen to a single thing that women say…

    Roissy, you are a true Vagina Scientist. I commend you sir.

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  9. that anyone who has lived part of their life as a young woman would deny this is a testament to the tenuous relationship females have with anything even remotely resembling “the truth”.

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  10. dread game also works on betas with oneitis

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  11. poor FactCheck

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  12. “Consider my methods a social experiment – a sort of crisis and observation — designed to get under the skin, with exquisite pain amplification, of those predisposed to hate the message here, and to observe how many of you can handle the truth when it is stripped of all its sugarcoating.”

    What a Straussian Platonist you are, CR! I like it.

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  13. This is a bad idea for some chicks with insecurities: although it will be effective it can cause them a great deal of pain. Use only when other techniques fail; alternatively, if you can maintain alpha frame while doing it, be so generous and patient normally that even mild expressions of displeasure or subtle withdrawals will by contrast get the wheel spinning crazily.

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  14. Yes, one of the underpinnings of game, and why it works, is that women (the vast majority, anyway) have no knowledge of their own hindbrains, what their attraction drivers are. We are simpler creatures and understand ourselves much better.

    @dana- what happened to your blog? It was going pretty well there for a while.

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  15. on December 23, 2010 at 6:08 pm Mr. Happy's Conscious

    “The Game” is a brutal.

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  16. on December 23, 2010 at 6:10 pm Mr. Happy's Conscious

    Add “mind fuck” to the end of that above post.

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  17. Risk makes the pussy grow fonder.

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  18. “Pussyology”. Sweet. I love that term. Spread that term around and get it into a dictionary somewhere.

    [Editor: My experience, and the experience of men who know a thing or two about women, tells me that “negative” uncertainty is just as powerful, if not more so, than “positive” uncertainty. (If a difference can even be claimed to exist.) Have you ever delayed answering a phone call from a GF, only to get a rapid fire succesion of calls from her leaving messages that sound progressively more frantic? This is how female stalkers are created.]

    This is absolutely true. Part of my regular LTR game is this: After shit tests, I always get sullen and “have to think about things.” And then cease contact.

    I always let it go just a bit loner than she wants. When she’s apologizing to me for being such a bitch, for the typical Woman-hysterical-drama-testing fitfests they go into, I slowly begin to come around and entertain accepting her apology – always saying, well, you know, I’m not sure about someone like you any more, maybe we should think about it, it’s a little bit uncomfortable, you’re unstable, irrational, … but let me think about it. Invariably, I get the apology now.

    When I was married, I appeased. It dried up pussy faster than you can blink. Now, denying her need for me to appease never fails to make her need to fuck me all night and prove the strength of our relationship.

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  19. The haters just hate.

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  20. Has anyone here ever attempted Ross Jeffries’ methods?

    I ask because obviously there is more than 1 way to get a woman and keep her. I am just wondering what the hypno-seduction results are long-term. That method is basically “Make her feel incredible without being a romantic pussy faggot bitch” where as your method, which is the method of many other PUA’s, is treating them like garbage so they’re so paranoid and whacked out of their minds that they end up on your dick without realizing what happened. They don’t actually feel incredible, so it isn’t love that’s keeping them. Don’t fool yourself into thinking she looks at you guys with the love she feels holding a baby, or the love you felt holding your first love back when you were stupid enough to think she wasn’t planning on dumping your ass to suck and fuck every frat boy she sees when she leaves for college.

    I’m not suggesting that one might work better than the other (“work” meaning keeping her for as long as you want, with the smallest amount of problems possible), just observing that 1 method plays with her emotions and insecurites while the other plays with her emotions and uses lame brainwashing techniques to make her feel good.

    I only want to know from people who actually used NLP. Not just theories or anecdotes claiming that it’s all horseshit

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  21. I’d like to add that I find NLP to be weaselly and just makes me hate them more than I do when I realize insulting the stupid whore will yield better results than giving her a compliment. Easily brainwashed people sicken me more than I can possibly express.

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  22. The female creature has an insatiable need for drama in her life. If you are not supplying her with the proper amount of drama and emotional ups and downs, she will create such drama herself or leave.

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  23. Hot-cold is also an excellent tactic for girls on the periphery of your social circle that you are not actively gaming. For example, baristas, bartenders and other neighborhood service workers; friends of friends of friends that you haven’t had a chance to socialize one-on-one with yet.

    Other than the DHV of letting these girls see you with other hot girls, one of the best ways to pave the way for future gaming is to be really casual, teasing, and friendly with her on one occasion, then distracted and disinterested on the next occasion… you only vaguely remember who she is and you have other things on your mind anyway. Third time in… charming and engaged once more. Etc.

    Sets the hamster wheels a-spinnin’.

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  24. This isn’t science. Its statistics. Science would have to show a mechanism of why women feel this way. All this is pointing to is a statistical correlation. But there are many questions that can be asked of this study.

    First of all, this study deals with college women. Today’s colleges and high-schools are post-modern, Leftist hotbeds. The entire student body of today’s colleges have been dumbed down by progressive education. Nothing can be proven using such people as samples.

    The most I’m willing to concede is that “dread” may lead to female attraction. But even there, not in a psychologically healthy women. But then again, all Gamers care about is there notch count so I guess dysfunctional women are your best bets.

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  25. on December 23, 2010 at 8:07 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    they don’t fall for it nearly as often, or with the same intensity, as do women

    They only fall for it with really hot women, or women who otherwise exactly fit their dream girl profile.

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  26. OT… just an opinion… How would you rate the wench in the image?

    Warning: NSFW.

    She is 34 in the set. The wide hips may mislead into an impression that she may have a bit more pounds than ideal, but her BMI=20.5.

    http://tinyurl.com/29qypvp

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  27. “”Participants in the uncertain condition were most attracted to the men-even more attracted than were participants who were told that the men liked them a lot. Uncertain participants reported thinking about the men the most, and this increased their attraction toward the men.””

    This is again a timely post.

    I have a comment a question…

    Since I started learning about game a year ago, I’ve begun to understand the concepts in the post more clearly, it’s the “myth of attraction” vs the “reality” as outlined in today’s post. It’s logic vs emotion.

    Since the start of this year, I’ve had 5 great successes and one good “learning” ie epic fail.

    I see this concept played out all the time with women I game. If I game them and I don’t see them for a while, or I DHV them and don’t see them for a while, they all approach me with “Hey long time no see…” or some such IOI indicative of the uncertainty.

    The question I have: Last night, a girl I’d been gaming for a while in my social circle: push-pull, lots of kino, teasing, disappearing, showing interest, not showing interest….we go out for a Christmas dinner at a place she suggested.

    It’s game on…

    There’s a terrace, on the terrace, we’re sitting looking up at the moon, chatting about nothing…a major IOI that she’s getting turned on…she’s holding onto me…so I go for the deep kiss….

    We make out for a few minutes, she’s clearly into it.

    I stop. Pull away, then continue talking about whatever it was we were talking about.

    Again, go for it. Make out. Stop. Get up, have a beer, look out at the buildings. Make out.

    We went to a party after that friends were having. I played it cool and treated her the way I always do, with that cool aloofness broken up by attention.

    Then I left. I could see the “hamster” spinning.

    My question: What’s the best way to handle the “Why did you kiss me? “shit test….It’s coming… I want to be ready for it.

    Best way is to smile. But anything else you guys have tried?

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  28. “Why did you kiss me? “

    “Because it was obvious you wanted me to”

    Delivered with a smirk.

    If you want to ramp it up; ” kinda like now” and go in .

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  29. @walawala
    If a woman asks that question, I think you are in a trouble. If you do things right, she won’t.

    Prompt escalation will make that question not coming up–e.g. you should be at the question “Why did you fuck me?” and she is not likely to ask that. At least, I’ve never heard them asking it.

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  30. @Julian…Gold! Reframe, and amplify… again with the “uncertainty” idea running through her head: “What did he mean by that?”

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  31. My question: What’s the best way to handle the “Why did you kiss me? “shit test….It’s coming… I want to be ready for it.

    First, that’s not a shit test.

    Second, you should try answering with complete gibberish (don’t smile, laugh, or acknowledge what you’re doing — just plough) to prove to yourself once and for all that logic has no use with women, ever. There are lots of other responses that would work, but they would all postpone this critical milestone in your mindset.

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  32. @Marcus…

    “There are lots of other responses that would work, but they would all postpone this critical milestone in your mindset.”

    Interesting comment, please elaborate.

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  33. Sort of surprised that they were more attracted to the guy that “liked them a lot” than to the guy that “liked them a little.” Would have been interesting if they could have added a guy “that was still thinking about ” – in other words, the uncertainty of ongoing judgment rather than a final result that they did not know.

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  34. @bob anderson

    the existence of psychologically healthy women has never been conclusively proven.

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  35. “dread game also works on betas with oneitis”

    This is true, but that’s the only exception, I think. No man with a spine and options would fall for it.

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  36. Interesting comment, please elaborate.

    For example, cocky/funny is a fine response to just about anything a woman says, and it’s great for self-amusement, but it usually relies on you saying something that relates in some way to what she said. Your suggestion of simply smiling also relies on actually acknowledging her communication and responding in a logical way. Both are a big improvement over directly answering her question, but I’m pointing out that you can go even further and eliminate any semblance of a logical chain of thought/action whenever you feel like it.

    My recommendation is to do or say something totally incoherent, observe how her logical brain kicks in for a second (don’t take the bait and engage!), plough, then notice that it’s as if her memory was erased when you refused to acknowledge what just happened. You will have pulled off a pretty intense form of domination over her — reality is what you say it is — that her vagina will appreciate, even if her brain cannot.

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  37. @Marcus

    I understand. I will try this.

    In my last interaction, I actually did that.

    Her reaction was interesting.

    I went for it…then continued on with the conversation….

    Got up…wandered around, took photos.

    Went for it.

    The reaction was as you describe. Each successive time she got more and more into the make out.

    If I had to point out one thing about my learnings of game, it’s what you, Marcus point out.

    Game is counterintuitive to logic.

    I saw an interesting interaction on the subway the other day between a couple who were arguing.

    She was prodding him on something he hadn’t done. He kept responding in some logic way “I did…..”

    Then suddenly she changed tack, was kinoing him, stroking his chest, in a way calming down his anger which was amounting to “You’re driving me crazy with this stuff.”

    Her response: “I learned it from you….” The “Agree and amplify” chick style.

    I saw that she was gaming him. He didn’t know it.

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  38. julian

    “Why did you kiss me? “

    “Because it was obvious you wanted me to”

    Ya, that serves several purposes. It is a hypnotic suggestion, telling her that she is perceived to be wanting you. This will lead her to think that she internally wants you. Much of our internal state is guaged by watching our actions, and the reactions of those around us. I know it’s counter intuitive, but our internal state is not always primary, and anyway the feedback mechanisms that help to adjust it can be hacked. So you tell her what she is feeling, and if it is believable, she’ll believe it.

    This comment also serves the purpose of denying her satisfaction that has you interested. You don’t want to give a lot of hand to a girl. Avoid letting her feel sated or satisfied with your level of commitment and interest.

    This brings me round to a sex technique I use on some submissives in bed. I tell them what to say, while fucking. “Say I love you Daddy, say I love you Daddy!”, then as she’s close to coming she’ll be screaming that out. Then “Say I’m Daddies little bitch! Say it!” Then she musters all her focus to get her speech centers to work, and screams that out. In those deeply intense moments, you begin to own her. So while plunging in you mind meld in the belly area, feel her energy, feel how she grabs, opens, releases and twitches, but mostly feel the energy of feeling. You can mix in the heart area, and full body. Let your voices mingle. And then proclaim, from your belly, in certain and conquering tones; “I OWN you! I OWN you!”

    And you will. She will become your slave. Pass a few dozen daily shit tests more, and show some extreme temper if needed, and she’ll give up and you know the meaning of devotion. Shoes taken off for you when you enter the house, drinks brought on demand, blow jobs on demand, constant clinging on your arm wherever you walk.

    These small techniques add up. A simple phrase like “Because it was obvious you wanted me to” conveys a depth of attitude.

    It also shows that you are willing to lead.

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  39. This is correct, and it works…but it comes at a cost. The cost is that you are enraging a part of the female competitive instinct. This will definitely spring her into action to draw you more into her circle. The risk is, however, that you will create the fertile ground for a jealous and crazed individual.

    I think that while this is true, and that “dread” game does work, it should only be used for a brief period. Otherwise you risk either desensitizing her or creating a monster.

    Timing, duration, and execution are critical on this one.

    (also, Professor Chateau Roissy Esquire….the example you give of a girl calling you several times after delaying the picking up of the phone…the frantic calls….to me is not a pleasant experience. It is irritating an indicative of a nutcase.)

    My 2 cents.

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  40. I saw that she was gaming him. He didn’t know it.

    A guy who has his pimp hand grafted on properly would have nipped her shit-test flowers in the bud. He would have felt a rising anger at the first sign of the girl trying to rise up and usurp his throne. Or if not anger, he’d have jovially put her in her place. That the man let her toy with him so long just shows that he has no clue yet about how women toy, let alone how to counteract, and no concept whatsoever on how to dominate.

    A guy must know who is boss. And he must be able to make the woman know it, feel it, agree to it, accept it, and love it.

    Otherwise, move on.

    My 9 is still trying to date me, but I’m tiring of her, as she is a tomboy at heart, always vying to be dominant, and I just don’t have the time. Nothing I can do seems to get rid of her, and she is smoking hot. I love her huge firm meatily nippled breasts. But her attitude doesn’t fit in with my style.

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  41. @xsplat

    “Say I love you Daddy, say I love you Daddy!”, then as she’s close to coming she’ll be screaming that out. Then “Say I’m Daddies little bitch! Say it!”

    I’m still pretty new with formalized game, but this is the best.

    I use it when I fuck a “lesbian” who’s married to another woman who is in town every so often. She loves it. She’s really strong outside, but when we’re together she’s daddy’s little girl and does exactly as I say.

    Incidentally I’ve known her for a while and I used to have a massive crush on her pre-game, but post-game I did something about it and now she’s mine. That’s how I proved to myself and really internalized the undeniable fact that game works. I do need to work on cold approaches though, but I just don’t have the time to devote to it right now.

    Getting back to the point, in the sack she especially cums hard and often when I start telling her what to do and say while I bang her. Particularly as I’m really rough and use a lot of vulgarity, which I always do with every woman because I am a proud and dominant degenerate.

    And you’re right, there’s nothing like making a “strong” woman do and say exactly what you want while she enjoys every degrading minute of it. It’s like freebasing power. You can watch her battle inside, with her logical side and her vag tingle locked in a death struggle. And guess which side always wins? Me.

    In her case, I think that her submissive nature has something to do with her public façade of strength, being an out “lesbian,” and especially in her Catholic upbringing.

    It’s my belief that the guilt trip Catholicism lays on its adherents manifests itself in the chicks being more likely to enjoy sexually submissive roles, as well as being into getting spanked, whipped, and other fun masochistic stuff. At least that’s what I’ve learned from my field research to date. That’s why my ears perk up when a woman mentions that she’s gone to or is currently attending a Catholic school. The odds of her being a submissive just skyrocketed.

    Regardless, I’m training this particular little girl as a submissive as much as the situation allows, and she’s coming along well. And the best part is that she works for a feminist organization sponsored through government grants and private cash funneled to the group through middle age DC socialite political cunts spending their husbands’ money on bullshit via their pet charity organizations.

    I’m using the experience to form a template on how to create future situations in a similar vein, now that I know a little game and I’m learning more every day. This kind of relationship is perfectly suited to my needs and I want to make sure they continue even after this particular affair dies.

    Irony on top of irony on top of irony, and all glazed with my cum. Perfect.

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  42. And the best part is that she works for a feminist organization sponsored through government grants and private cash funneled to the group through middle age DC socialite political cunts spending their husbands’ money on bullshit via their pet charity organizations.

    I like your pragmatic attitude. Instead of complaining about the injustice of the system, you use it to your advantage. It happens that this causes all around benefit, but that’s just a side effect.

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  43. “Naturally, some skirt-twirling teacups will chime in and attempt to muddy the waters by caviling about how men are susceptible to uncertainty game as well, while neglecting to mention the difference in degree between the sexes. Sure, men can fall for the Chateau patented dread psy ops, but they don’t fall for it nearly as often, or with the same intensity, as do women. Vulnerability to dread game is predominantly a female phenomenon.”

    Writer, have you ever watched television? Sitcoms? Have you ever seen what other married couples are like? If you have been outside and seen the world and still believe that a majority of men don’t fear a loss of pussy, let alone good looking company – then i’m at a loss for words…

    Women taught us uncertainty game! For men, its not uncertainty of security, its sex! Men are scared of losing sex. Scarcity mentality based on perceived lack of sexual options (when really anybody can get laid).

    Men don’t have to be better than women in all aspects. And you don’t have to fabricate reasons justifying that. We’re different. We have different motivations.

    It was solid post that you ruined with an unnecessary conclusion.

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  44. It takes true genius to rebut a material objection with nothing but unfounded ad hominem.

    It’s easy to think of rich guys as all having hot mistresses. Some no doubt do. Many rich guys, however, could not manage to have an affair if you drove them to a whorehouse. There are plenty of beta chumps who could do far, far better than their current wives, but don’t and didn’t think they could. Some women I know have managed to rope themselves far better husbands than their market value should entitle them to. This does not seem like a point you’d contend, if it didn’t happen to contradict your theory du jour.

    The selection of women you base your theories off of is invariably the group that is most sensitive to game – women on whom your openings fall flat are never observed beyond that. I’m also willing to bet it’s white, urban, and mostly middle class, with some sprinkling of upper middle and lower classes as well. You pretty much definitionally don’t date straight men. Therefore, you have absolutely no idea how well tactics work on your typical straight man. Assuming you’re not totally full of shit, you’re substantially better with women and have more options than your median straight dude, so generalizing off of what works on you is pretty much retarded. This is spelling out my point about you talking out your ass, which I don’t think you necessarily disagreed with.

    I enjoy posting here. I look forward to one day being met with a valid counterargument or, y’know, facts, instead of being called names. But hey! At least you stopped censoring my posts.

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  45. I enjoy posting here. I look forward to one day being met with a valid counterargument or, y’know, facts, instead of being called names. But hey! At least you stopped censoring my posts.

    FactCheck you’re a goon failure. No one wants to debate you because this isn’t the Debate Team and no one cares what some nerd on the internet thinks. Ad hominem is all you get because it’s all everyone else thinks you deserve.

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  46. Malcolm,
    Nothing like sticking it to the enemy directly.

    Personally, not sure about the Catholicism hypothesis. The strong exterior idea makes more sense: such ladies often like being put in the gutter. Or girls with domineering fathers also have this particular yen.

    FactCheck, always good to have a differing viewpoint. And there’s no censorship here. Just an unpredictable moderation system with a lot of downtime

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  47. [ “dread game also works on betas with oneitis”

    This is true, but that’s the only exception, I think.
    No man with a spine and options would fall for it. ]

    Yes , but so many do fall for it; or at least they do until they wake up and realise what is going on.

    If these men don’t wake up and grow a spine ; women have an uncanny ability to whittle down that man’s options until his value to her and to other women is far less than he began with.

    This is when he finds himslef either married to a tryant or is dumped onto his sorry ass and then wonders to himself where he went wrong.

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  48. If you specialise in highlighting the disparity between the cerebral and the visceral (or the frontbrain/hindbrain, whichever you like), you are guaranteed haters. People are just not comfortable realising their true nature. They especially don’t like realising that they are a product of their biological and consequent social standing. Understandably nobody wants to feel like they come up short, lack free will or are less high-minded than they think, so they rationalise, obfuscate or simply avoid.

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  49. Haters are a bit like fat or ugly chicks that say,
    “It’s what’s on the inside that counts”

    Haters will hate ideas that are against their own self-serving interests.

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  50. Merry Xmas and Happy new year Roissy and to all you guys..betas and alphas!!! Have fun chasing skirts…tis the season to use those alpha skills!! hehehhe!! Good luck!

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  51. Law 17: Keep Others in Suspended Terror: Cultivate an Air of Unpredictability
    Humans are creatures of habit with an insatiable need to see familiarity in other people’s actions. Your predictability gives them a sense of control. Turn the tables: Be deliberately unpredictable. Behavior that seems to have no consistency or purpose will keep them off-balance, and they will wear themselves out trying to explain your moves. Taken to an extreme, this strategy can intimidate and terrorize.

    Naturally, some skirt-twirling teacups will chime in and attempt to muddy the waters by caviling about how men are susceptible to uncertainty game as well

    I would argue that this is actually the default psychology for women. Sexual agency is a woman’s only real tool in her exercising hypergamy. When a Man (Roissy) even suggests overtly flipping the same script women have been using for millennia he’s labelled a sociopath. Feminine social conventions have seen to it that any attempt at revealing their psychology, any looking behind the lace curtain, is met with shame and prejudice.

    Think of it as one global meta-shittest; to be socially intelligent enough to see the feminine Matrix for what it is and to be Alpha enough to go against an entire world of women deliberately bent on telling men the key to understanding them is actually contrary to their own hypergamy.

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  52. 70% of women don’t orgasm via penetration alone and the other 30% are lying or don’t know wtf an orgasm is.

    It’s not ‘hypergamy’ that causes women to stray or ride the “cock carousel”, it’s that she keeps hoping she will find someone who can actually make her cum.

    So, your homework for this Holiday is:

    Passion And Power The Technology Of Orgasm

    If you dumbass men don’t learn how to be less selfish in the sack, you are always going to cry “hypergamy” when she leaves your prick ass.

    [Editor: Chicks cum more easily with alpha males. This has been demonstrated in studies.
    ps you write like a femtard.]

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  53. [Editor: Chicks cum more easily with alpha males. This has been demonstrated in studies.
    ps you write like a femtard.]

    No, idiot. “Chicks” just ‘fake it’ more with ‘Alphas’ in order to ‘secure’ the ‘alpha cock’ but later end up realizing that sex still sucks even with a hunky ‘alpha’.

    Life. Learn it. Dumbass.

    [Editor: Keep telling yourself that.]

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  54. Pity Phuck has a valid point. Women are not hypergamous as much as they are naive about their own bodies and men are just as clueless and it took ‘Victorian era’ doctors inventing the vibrator to get women off for “hysteria” in order for women to reach their full orgasmic potential.

    I wonder what those husbands thought when their wives kept making doctors visits to ‘get off’?

    lulz

    [Editor: Higher status doctors will do that to women.]

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  55. first

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  56. Studies have shown that women orgasm more with their alpha affair partners – which has been postulated as a cum-sucking adaptation, i.e. suck up his badboy love juice and acquire his sexy genes.

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  57. It takes true genius to rebut a material objection with nothing but unfounded ad hominem.

    I’m a big Roissy fan, but let’s hold out the “true genius” label a little longer. Premature.

    I enjoy posting here. I look forward to one day being met with a valid counterargument or, y’know, facts, instead of being called names. But hey! At least you stopped censoring my posts.

    Maybe, if you’re lucky, and drop the entitled, knowing attitude. But I wouldn’t count on it.

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  58. I don’t know why the nerds on this board don’t shut the fuck up and listen.

    “Ever since I have started studying Game, my Game has rocketed upwards with exponential magnitude as I run DHV Game on my harem of bitches giving my major IOI’s as I push pull kino hot cold aloof dominance their lesbian asses.”

    I think this describes it perfectly:

    “The cognitive ability of children with AS often allows them to articulate social norms in a laboratory context,[1] where they may be able to show a theoretical understanding of other people’s emotions; however, they typically have difficulty acting on this knowledge in fluid, real-life situations.[5] People with AS may analyze and distill their observation of social interaction into rigid behavioral guidelines, and apply these rules in awkward ways, such as forced eye contact, resulting in a demeanor that appears rigid or socially naive. Childhood desire for companionship can become numbed through a history of failed social encounters.[1]”

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  59. “The key for the man is to adopt a posture of blase emotional distance alternated with loving tenderness. Too much of either and she’ll run off.”

    Works with men too.

    Too much loving tenderness and my boyfriend thinks I’m “clingy” or “needy”.

    Too much emo distance and I’m “cold”.

    The perfect balance is what you said – a bit of both.

    Also, if I pamper him too much he starts to take me for granted.

    Can’t have that, now can we?

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  60. Yadda blah. Long reader, never poster. Just thought this place could use a little Christmas cheer. Proceed.

    (POF profile diddy) Names Canesten.

    Twas the night before Christmas, and all through my pants,
    chick looks cute, probably needs a dance,
    start a’givn’r, lookin around,
    little bit cautious, no boyfriend be found,

    She gives me the smile, full of twinkle and delight,
    I start thinkin Damn, this is my night,
    Got no standards, she’ll fit through a door,
    So I bring the A game, grind to the floor,

    By now other chicks start, lookin at their guys,
    thinkin “there ain’t no tingle”, no matter what he buys,
    where’s the passion, the lust, the love
    I’m just a place, for his****to shove.

    See, yer humble narrator, knows what is up
    He only cares, bout what’s in his cup
    Get all in the music, dance to the song
    If I bang this chick, won’t last long

    Ladies, guys are different, so take no offense
    We do f’ed up shit, ta get through yer defense
    Write lots of goo, on a POf profile
    know nothing of women, full of denial

    So what do women want? yer starting to think
    Fuck what you want, just buy me a drink
    Chicks still dancin, this must be a dream
    I ain’t so hot darlin, named for a vaginal cream

    MERRY CHRISTMAS LADIES!

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  61. Rossy,

    This site is the f*****g business.

    Betatude for eighteen years. So I know what I’m talking about.

    I have been reading this site for a while. Really this IS the mother lode.

    Scenario 1. BR (Before Rossy)

    Arrive back home from work.

    She: You’ve been to the pub.
    Me: No, (lying) I’ve just been working late.
    She: Don’t lie to me, I can smell it on you.
    Me: Well I did pop in for one.
    She: One? You’re drunk …. bla bla bla ..

    … bla bla bla … how lazy and uncaring – how unfair my behavior is, (true), She hates it when I am drunk (true).

    …endless recriminations.. both end up in a terrible temper, not talking and futile wasted hours.

    Scenario 2. AR (After Rossy)

    She: You’ve been to the pub.
    Me: Yes, just had a couple with the guys, it’s Christmas eve after all.
    She: That’s not fair, I’ve been slaving away on the Christmas dinner (true), we’ve got guests arriving tomorrow (true), you are so unreasonable(true). You’ve been drinking, you stink of it. Get over your side of the bed, you are too heavy to move, you are going to snore all night and wake up with a terrible headache (true true true).

    [silent prayer to the dark lord of the crimson arts]

    Me: You can kiss me if you behave.
    She: I don’t want to kiss you you stink of beer.
    Me: Yea, it could have been worse, the girls at work wanted me to go to the pub at 11 am, I didn’t meet up with them ’till twelve though.

    She: thoughtful silence.

    [a little more unrepentant chat later and she is rubbing herself on me, and snuggling in]

    Me: Behave yourself and I’ll let you rub my chest.
    She: chuckles with pleasure.

    [The whole scenario is over in 15 minutes]

    I’m still drunk but her mood is utterly reversed.

    Praise be to the Dark Lord.

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  62. on December 24, 2010 at 3:01 pm Malcolm Tucker

    @Saigon

    Personally, not sure about the Catholicism hypothesis. The strong exterior idea makes more sense: such ladies often like being put in the gutter. Or girls with domineering fathers also have this particular yen.

    Cool. Fair enough. It’s just a working theory.

    It’s going to take a lot more field research before I can come (heh) to a conclusion, but I’m always open to new evidence. Preferably evidence with tattoos, piercings, pale skin, and short blonde or red hair.

    And a vagina.

    Merry fucking whatever! I’m looking forward to pub crawling after the stupidity is over tomorrow. Lots of fun to be had with the college kids in town. Good luck and happy hunting all.

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  63. Roissy as usual you are bombastic to get ratings 🙂

    Check it out:
    human nature obviously says that uncertainty makes us commit more resources to something to figure out out, and then backwards rationalize that this thing must be more important to us, thus giving it more weight

    yes, uncertainty is a great way to get attention

    it is also a great way to make someone try harder, because just like a slot machine, there is an addiction factor — if the highs are really high, but you don’t egt them all the time, you get addicted to pressing the lever, because you can’t just rely on it always giving you the high whenever you want

    however, does this mean we should abuse other people and cause harm to others?

    no.

    Why do you focus so much on the negative sides of attraction, where there are so many positive techniques (read: beneficial to both sides) that cause attraction?

    Over the years my game has been distilled to a very simple set of principles:

    1. Be confident (know you are good, focus on judging others)

    2. Create magic together (make sure the interaction is beautiful, rather than worrying about a person’s momentary feeling, that’s what’s memorable in the long term, and is the basis of social tact)

    3. Actions BEFORE intentions. (only intentions can get rejected. But actions open the door to new opportunities. Men who act get ahead.)

    The first two work with all people, the third one is best done with women, as they are hardwired to pay attention to males taking action. See the animal behavior called Lekking for group male actions.

    Notice that none of these are explicitly framed to take advantage of others. 1 and 2 can be done to raise attractiveness for men and women. For 3 I would replace action with femininity (ability to please) and beauty (whatever cosmo says).

    Oh yeah, and sex. But that comes from experience.

    Greg

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  64. psycho, that sounds spot on. A large chunk of the wannabe-PUA community are, almost certainly, spergers/autistic. You can almost tell immediately just from the way someone writes, e.g. someone in the comments will try to take one of Roissy’s maxims and apply it, but when describing it it just sounds so horribly spastic and robotic.

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  65. reading about how douchebags get success by self-consciously “smirking” for women isnt doing anything for my misogyny

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  66. in my house we call that my husband’s “jerk smirk”

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  67. on December 24, 2010 at 3:52 pm Good Luck Chuck

    The old “If you fuck her good enough you will never have to worry about her leaving you” myth rears its ugly head once again…..

    The power to keep a woman around rests in the power to make her wet. Making her hit the ceiling with ecstasy is just icing on the cake.

    This fits nicely into the theme of women being aroused by uncertainty; making her tingle will drive her crazy WONDERING what it feels like to have your cock inside her. After you bang her she has her answer.

    When it comes to the importance of sex in a relationship an ounce of sexual tension is worth a pound of sexual satisfaction.

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  68. “Say I love you Daddy, say I love you Daddy!”, then as she’s close to coming she’ll be screaming that out. Then “Say I’m Daddies little bitch! Say it!”

    I’m curious. I’ve heard about this wanting-to-be-called-daddy fetish elsewhere recently and couldn’t wrap my mind around it. Do you think it indicates a tendency toward pedophilia/incest? I tried to picture myself asking my boyfriend to call me “mommy” and it made me gag.

    What gives?

    I’m asking this in all seriousness. Humans, what they do and why, is an interesting phenomenen, or na.

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  69. Hologu,

    Unless the pics are misleading, I’d give her a 6-7, maybe 7+

    i would, for sure. who is she?

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  70. To add another anecdote, try getting a little angry about something over the phone when distance is involved. The phone card ran out and by the time she got back to me, she was in a panic, and I mean she sounded dire. Its just the way it is.

    I have lived long enough to see every principle of game by chance. The closer I acted to the principles of game, the more success I had. A man will telegraph a station in life. If a man is sitting on a mountain of gold, girls have been bred to read his poker face. Its adaptive.

    A simple line can be drawn between those who understand simple adaptive principles and those who cannot. The ladder, for the sake of expediency, may be referred to as idiots.

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  71. “Say I love you Daddy, say I love you Daddy!”, then as she’s close to coming she’ll be screaming that out. Then “Say I’m Daddies little bitch! Say it!”

    Has any research linked wanting to be called a parent during sex to actual pedophilia or incest?

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  72. “The most I’m willing to concede is that “dread” may lead to female attraction. But even there, not in a psychologically healthy women.”

    God it cracks me up every single time people bring out the NAWALT canard. In case you haven’t noticed dude, there aren’t many “psychologically healthy” women in the First World. Even were it true that [x] aspect of game works solely on girls from some kind of kook provenance, that happens to be every single girl to-day.

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  73. I never got the “daddy” thing suring sex.

    Fuck me daddy!

    WHAT?

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  74. on December 24, 2010 at 5:11 pm Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

    “Why did you kiss me? “
    “Why not?”

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  75. ” If you dumbass men don’t learn how to be less selfish in the sack, you are always going to cry “hypergamy” when she leaves your prick ass. ”

    The smart thing to do is first get her off and then you are pretty much free to do as you please and take all the time you need to get yourself off.

    With my last ex ; I usually made sure there was a good dose of foreplay , I would then go down on her (which I happily did as she had a magnificent pussy) until she came , then within a couple of minutes I was in and pounding her. Sometimes she would come again, most times she didn’t , but it didn’t matter, what mattered then was my enjoyment.

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  76. Holugu , IMHO , her body is a 6.5 – 7 , her face is a 4.5 – 5.

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  77. schfifty five, just an average type of wench that was a fun to fuck. I was just curious how people rate, that’s all.

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  78. As someone who travels meets women when I’m “out of town” often, I’ve found this plays a monstrous effect on the interaction. That uncertainty of whether I’ll be there again, whether we’ll keep in touch, whether some day we’ll grow into something more… I’ve found that these interactions are FAR more intimate and exciting than women I meet going out in my home town.

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  79. two brilliant posts in a row.

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  80. Model Date.

    So i just got back form a internet-date with no less than a Model, Hollywood actress, lingerie spokesperson, perfect 10.

    I told her she looked like an avg local newscaster 3 days ago via a email; she took the bait, and showed up 1 block from my apt for coffee.

    She turns out to be a model with a page on Model-Mayhem with 10 pages of comments; a lingerie endrosement, in a hollywood film; and a total babe.

    She is 27, 5’8”, 24 in waist, 35 chest C cups; from midwest; moved recently from LA, Southbeach.

    Now, I have commented here many times about internet dating.

    So, why is a perfect 10 Model, have no BF, is alone on xmas eve, wit no New Yrs plans, and meeting me a strager 42yo for coffee????

    She said point black she never talks to guys out at bars/clubs; and avoids them 24/7.

    Via the magic of intenet dating, I have her #, email and she is a babe.

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  81. “GIRLFRIEND

    “Say I love you Daddy, say I love you Daddy!”, then as she’s close to coming she’ll be screaming that out. Then “Say I’m Daddies little bitch! Say it!”

    I’m curious. I’ve heard about this wanting-to-be-called-daddy fetish elsewhere recently and couldn’t wrap my mind around it. Do you think it indicates a tendency toward pedophilia/incest? I tried to picture myself asking my boyfriend to call me “mommy” and it made me gag.

    What gives?

    I think that women and the whole “Daddy” issue is that the father is a girls first male authority figure. He’s the classic template from which an idealized Alpha male is built in her mind.

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  82. Silver Fox, I call your bluff. There’s no such thing as a 35C. Bra inches go by even numbers.

    But it’s Christmas so I’ll believe your story 😉

    Ghost Ship, I was thinking more in terms of the partner who wishes to be referred to as a parent during sex, not the one saying it.

    Do you think a man wanting to be called “daddy” by an adult sexual partner indicates an inner tendency towards pedophilia or incest?

    Is there also a class of women who like to be called “mommy”?

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  83. “As someone who travels meets women when I’m “out of town” often, I’ve found this plays a monstrous effect on the interaction. That uncertainty of whether I’ll be there again, whether we’ll keep in touch, whether some day we’ll grow into something more… I’ve found that these interactions are FAR more intimate and exciting than women I meet going out in my home town. ”

    Well of course , for the woman it’s an anti-slut defence ploy.

    The guy she fucks the same night she meets him won’t be around for everyone else to find out about what happened.

    The same thing happens when a woman goes on vacation , say to Europe.
    Putting aside all her other rationalisations for fucking while on vacation , when she gets back noone will know what happened therefore there is no slut label put on her.

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  84. @silver fox

    your description answers your question why – she’s new to the area and alone for the holidays! some people just can’t handle that.

    she is your christmas present mate, hit it with no regrets!

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  85. “…when I’m “out of town” often, I’ve found this plays a monstrous effect on the interaction. ”

    As Mr. C and other have speculated, it could be the anti slut defense at work.

    But consider an evolutionary biology explanation. Including some travelers genes into your small tribes blood is beneficial. It’s likely that simply being not from here is inherently sexy on an instinctive level.

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  86. Do you think a man wanting to be called “daddy” by an adult sexual partner indicates an inner tendency towards pedophilia or incest?

    Is there also a class of women who like to be called “mommy”?

    I haven’t met a girl who likes to be called mommy, but out of scores of girls, I’ve only met a couple who didn’t naturally take it on themselves to call me Daddy.

    It’s a common nickname for the man for a reason. It’s an archetype.

    And you’d be surprised how many girls thrill to the erotic play of being fucked by their Daddy. You might think it’s a small fringe group, or a group of people with a fetish who’d ever do that. Nope. Probably 90 percent of girls get off on it.

    About the same number of girls who get off for rape play.

    As for this erotic fantasy rape play having anything to do with real life pedophilia or incest, it doesn’t seem to, no. The brain for normals just won’t go there. You can’t teach someone to go there, or be open to going there – it’s just a place that holds no attraction unless you have the brain structure for it. And unlike the commonality of the daddy fucking fantasies, it’s a rare and broken brain that gets horny for children.

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  87. At the risk of triggering the anti incest buttons that we have hard coded into our brains, I’ll go into more detail why the Daddy fucking fantasy can be powerful for guys.

    Guys have very powerful paternal feelings of love for their children. We have these subroutines of overwhelming love and devotion in our brains that we can call upon, and these neural networks call forth a flood of hormones and the full body feeling is a specific type of love.

    When you feel a paternalistic love for your the same person you feel lust for, whammy whammy! You’ve just mixed together two of the most intense emotions you can have. You’re heart can flood open and your loins will grow ten sizes.

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  88. xplat, i just got totally grossed out by your last 2 posts.

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  89. If after referring to yourself during sex as Daddy a couple of times “Daddy loves you! Daddy loves you!”, your girlfriend is not calling you Daddy, there is a power struggle issue.

    I’ve only known a very few girls who didn’t naturally love the dynamic. Those that didn’t have the name happily dance off their tongue wanted to be the man of the house, or some sort of “equal”. Uggghhhhh.

    The girl beside me now calls me Daddy even when referring to me to other people. Even when arguing with my other girl, she’ll say “Don’t make Daddy stressed!”.

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  90. Girlfriend, I would expect the same girls who love the Daddy fantasy to be grossed out by it in print.

    It’s a full body experience, not a text experience. You’d probably love it with a dominant male who you were in love with. It’s submission with a spicy twist.

    Don’t tell your Mom!

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  91. Nope. It’s psychologically deviant. It makes me picture incest and feel totally gross like my skin is crawling.

    Disgusting.

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  92. Women are neotenous to trigger our inner Daddy. Every male on the planet gets turned on by neoteny.

    So go with it – use that to your advantage, for both inner hedonism and outward seduction. It’s natures design.

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  93. Girlfriend, read for comprehension. Yes, picturing incest will be a turn off for you, as it will for most women.

    I’m not talking about having sex with a parent.

    Women who’ve never had S and M also are disgusted by the idea. But nearly all women are into it, in the flesh, in the context, in the situation, in real life.

    Try to grasp that concept. If you can. I guess you probably can’t.

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  94. Silver, congrats on your internet babe.

    I’m in a similar situation. I’d call my girl a nine. I don’t have her chest measurement, but her tits are as large as they can possibly be without being too large. Twenty one. Perfect face.

    I saw a picture of the last guy she was into, and he looked remarkably like me, and also looked mid forties.

    Some girls PREFER guys aged above forty. Some will come right out and tell you that it’s a requirement. And then for many it’s not their ideal, but they will willingly put up with the age difference.

    As for why the girl is on the internet, I find it a bit of a silly question. That’s like saying why would she go to a nightclub. Why should she go to any social venue, when males flock to her wherever she is? Because she can and it’s enjoyable. Girls love attention.

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  95. “Why did you kiss me? “
    “I felt like it. Do we have any beer?”

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  96. Most of female flirting is hyping up the neoteny.

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  97. For me the daddy thing seems to be about the woman feeling safe and secure, as I’ve been told after we both collapse in a sweaty heap after mad crazy fucking. Maybe that’s a deep seated thing in their heads. I don’t know. I don’t care.

    All I know is I enjoy it and they enjoy it, so let the good times roll.

    And by the way Girlfriend, it’s a hell of a lot more common than you might like to think. Like xsplat said, secret daddy fantasies and rape fantasies are practically a dime a dozen. Why do you think romance novels sell so many copies?

    Deviant implies minority status or abnormality. I would say it’s precisely the opposite, or at least a hell of a lot closer to 50/50. Maybe too close for comfort for those who haven’t taken the red pill.

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  98. Much of female flirting is arousing the paternalistic instinct in a man.

    Of course, pointing this out directly and removing the veil of mystique will make girls squirm uncomfortably. They’ll come up with all sorts of smokescreens. “Not all girls are like that!” “Only low self esteem girls are like that!”.

    Or in the extreme, “that’s deviant!”. Ya, ninety percent of the population deviates from the 10%.

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  99. Well, anyway… WHO’S YOUR DADDY! (Hey, if get’s ’em going.)

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  100. While i would agree that Roissy is (at times) a dick, thats what this world needs… For christ sakes men have become such damn pussies that they don’t know how to get pussy.

    At least Roissy can back up his arguments with facts, and at least his techniques DO work, and CAN help the average beta male.

    Unlike your bullshit *game*

    1. Be confident (know you are good, focus on judging others)

    2. Create magic together (make sure the interaction is beautiful, rather than worrying about a person’s momentary feeling, that’s what’s memorable in the long term, and is the basis of social tact)

    3. Actions BEFORE intentions. (only intentions can get rejected. But actions open the door to new opportunities. Men who act get ahead.)”

    1. be confident –> Wow you truely are an innovator
    2. create magic together –> jesus i just threw up in my mouth. wtf is this man, really. bring this bullshit someplace else where people care. This isn’t social tact, this is the definition of Beta behavior. I care more about what you think about me, rather than doing whatever will amuse me.
    3. Actions BEFORE intentions. —> whatever dude this doesn’t even make sense. clearly I’m at a bar, im at a club- my intentions are to get laid. Newsflash girls know you are hitting on them, well maybe not with you…

    your game is pointless and you should not teach it to others.

    “however, does this mean we should abuse other people and cause harm to others?

    no.”

    Hes not saying to abuse others but bottom line is women get too comfortable and will leave you if there is ZERO doubt in their minds. I know from my experience when a chick leaves some doubt in my mind if she will stick around i get more attracted (irregardless of my logical, rational reasoning that this shouldn’t make her more attractive, it still does).

    Why do you focus so much on the negative sides of attraction, where there are so many positive techniques (read: beneficial to both sides) that cause attraction?

    Cause dude women got some BIG heads after the sexual revolution and the only way to GET hot American girls nowadays *American* is to use these “negative” strategies.

    “Oh yeah, and sex. But that comes from experience.”

    –> *does this feel OK???*

    Greg ‘Missionary is my favorite position’ Marshabeta

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  101. Calling a woman “mama” is a standard trope of rock and roll.

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  102. on December 25, 2010 at 12:56 pm Gregory Magarshak

    lol @ the guy who replied to me, I can tell what kind of sexual relationships you’re getting.

    hmm, average-to-ugly chicks sometimes want a relationship with you but you try to troll for hot chicks in a loner fashion, rope your friends into it but they don’t quite help you out, and are still trying to get “hot pussy” while you laugh at all the frustrated betas out there

    I don’t think I’m far off. I can tell from your post 🙂

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  103. Firstly, you know nothing of my sexual prowess, and cannot substantiate any claims based on a singular internet post. This does not, and can not, actualize any real FACT about my sexual relationships.

    In return for you accusing me of sleeping with ugly chicks, i counter with my evidence that you sleep with ugly chicks.

    Your reepy profile pic where your hair is a salt-n-pepper wannabe mullet, your horrendous excuse for beta nice guy game, and a condescending attitude backed by facetious use of emoticons.

    For shame Greg Marshabeta, for only a true Beta would end an internet insult with 🙂

    Merry Christmas, ya filthy animal.

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  104. Xsplat, I googled “neoteny” and found this site:

    http://www.neoteny.org

    with the subheading:

    Neoteny, Autism, and Evolution –
    Social Transformation and Biological Evolution

    Anonymous: ” Like xsplat said, secret daddy fantasies and rape fantasies are practically a dime a dozen. Why do you think romance novels sell so many copies?”

    No idea. Never understood their appeal, myself.

    However, way back when I was a little girl I would sometimes skim through them at the book store and not a single one had a romance between a father and a daughter or a rape scene followed by the victim falling in love with her perpetrator.

    Aren’t most romance novels about non-blood-related adults near the same age of each other having a mutally satisfying relationship?

    Anyway, as far as “daddy and rape fantasies” as well as “S and M” – to be honest I had never in my life known or thought about these things until I was exposed to them via media – so I no, I don’t think they are something “natural” to most humans.

    What I think is that most humans these days are so “plugged” in to electronic and other media that they are divorced from their natural, organic instincts and are their brains are being flooded with non-natural images and ideas, which spread like viruses.

    That’s called “memes”, not genes.

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  105. “rape” fantasies is a false description–women have “ravishment” fantasies.

    to illustrate:

    “ravishment” is rhett butler carrying scarlett up the stairs to bed

    “rape” is a nigger in an alley at 3am

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  106. @@,

    Nor sure if beta would (betas out there can you yes/no it?), but beta mangina with a developed “feminine” side amost certainly would.

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  107. @dana

    “rape” fantasies is a false description–women have “ravishment” fantasies.

    to illustrate:

    “ravishment” is rhett butler carrying scarlett up the stairs to bed

    “rape” is a nigger in an alley at 3am

    Put another way, “ravishment” is an alpha seeing through her coy game, realizing she really wants to be fucked hard without having to ask, and just doing it. In other words, accurately figuring out what she really wants.

    Of course, it’s also playing Russian Roulette if you either guess wrong or she’s unimpressed enough with your performance to scream rape afterwards…

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  108. on December 25, 2010 at 7:18 pm Gregory Magarshak

    I don’t need to know much more than your views and your attitude, to know what gives rise to them. What tipped me off was your reaction to my 3 principles, and your statement about roissy’s “techniques” helping the Beta man.

    It would be nice if I wasn’t right, wouldn’t it. But hey, you know I am… and that’s enough for me.

    I will leave you with one hint:

    “I care more about what you think about me, rather than doing whatever will amuse me”

    therein lies your problem. You should do things that amuse both you and the person you are with, even they only do so at the very end looking back.

    Fix this and you will get better results. And take things more slowly.

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  109. on December 25, 2010 at 7:19 pm Gregory Magarshak

    and don’t you diss mah gravatar! 🙂

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  110. Silver fox “She is 27, 5’8”, 24 in waist, 35 chest C cups; from midwest; moved recently from LA, Southbeach.”
    –> Umm ya
    Bra’s dont come in odd numbers. And south beach is in Miami not LA.

    Cooks : broth :: details : lie
    lol

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  111. on December 26, 2010 at 3:27 am Paleo Cream Puff

    Why is disagreeing with something seen as hate?

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  112. on December 26, 2010 at 11:39 am Gregory Magarshak

    @MichaelC – I don’t know why you are trying to justify that raping women is what they want

    A woman may enjoy any of the following:

    * a fantasy about being raped by guys she finds physically sexually attractive

    * a fantasy about being ravished by guys she finds physically sexually attractive

    * actually being ravished by guys she finds physically sexually attractive

    but not actually being raped

    where is your disagreement? Can you produce many women who enjoy real life rape?

    looking at it in a simplistic way that Roissy does is ignoring the complex language that goes on between a man and a woman. It’s like ignoring human language and society and trying to explain to a dog why humans are ok with it being in the living room 5 days every week, but not sat or sunday, except if it’s thanksgiving break, or Christmas break, or if the person is sick from work. “Teaching” the dog via shock collars these kinds of rules is ridiculous. So is teaching a man how to behave around women without understanding the nuances of the higher level language that aware men and women speak. Unless of course you just care about getting laid and “results” and don’t care about slaps and restraining orders, which I think some “alphas” don’t 🙂

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  113. The difference between ‘rape’ and ‘ravishment’ is that you want it. That’s supposed to be based on rational consent, but in fact is based on suave and circumstances.

    The dark guy in the alley may be exciting but too scary at 3AM, but he is your casanova in the day. You accept the heavy approaches of the guy at the bar, even by virtue of their forcefulness and strength.

    You hate the rapist not because he is strong but because he is weak. The spastic rapist only grabs your body, but you love the man who overpowers you fully.

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  114. on December 26, 2010 at 12:00 pm Deluded Hipster

    If we must be generous to the poor, and free love is a value, how could it be rape if a needy man is clumsy in overpowering a leftist?

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  115. “Ron Potato
    The difference between ‘rape’ and ‘ravishment’ is that you want it. That’s supposed to be based on rational consent, but in fact is based on suave and circumstances.

    The dark guy in the alley may be exciting but too scary at 3AM, but he is your casanova in the day. You accept the heavy approaches of the guy at the bar, even by virtue of their forcefulness and strength.

    You hate the rapist not because he is strong but because he is weak. The spastic rapist only grabs your body, but you love the man who overpowers you fully.”

    Great, another virgin.

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  116. yeh that was the dumbest thing i ever read

    no woman finds being raped by a stranger they could never be attracted to at 3am in surprise conditions “exciting”

    “exciting” is when a man you are ALREADY ATTRACTED TO or to whom you could be attracted to in he right circumstances overcomes your resistance

    in fact–basically “rape” is when someone you are not or could not be attracted to overpowers you and you NEVER had even the deep seated will to consent.

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  117. on December 26, 2010 at 9:03 pm betondo fuchatuch

    Man. This whole Daddy thing.

    Women love that shit – “oh, Daddy, please fuck me. I’ve been a bad girl. Please make it right. Punish me, Daddy – fuck me.”

    I tell 7 to 10 – level women to say that shit, before I raise up their skirt and fuck them standing up against my bedroom wall. No panties or bras – they know to take those off before they arrive. My house, my rules.

    Daddy is not a relationship/incest thing – it’s the acknowledgement that the king of her pussy castle has arrived and he’s going to take what’s his, not what’s given. And after I pumped it for 3-4 Cythereas on every surface not called a bed, I’ll gently carry her dominated form to a bed and lay there with her, whispering to her that she’s a good girl now, but Daddy will never withhold his loving discipline.

    Too many men try to make love to women instead of doing what she wants – fuck her hard and half-dressed, give her something to drink when you’re finished with her (tea maybe – replenish those fluids), lay with her and hold her tight (possessively), then make love to her later. Maybe. Or take up more of her pavement.

    Women are easy. Listening to them and believing them makes it hard. The Almighty didn’t put your ears on your dick. What does that tell you?

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  118. @dana

    “rape” fantasies is a false description–women have “ravishment” fantasies.

    to illustrate:

    “ravishment” is rhett butler carrying scarlett up the stairs to bed

    “rape” is a nigger in an alley at 3am”

    Thank you for the clarification. The right term is so important for non-sloppy thinking.

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