“There Was Good Sex With Him”

From the email wing of the Chateau:

I’m doing relationship game. How do I deal with comments from my girlfriend about her ex. Well, really he was just a friend with benefits. She recently told me “There was good sex with him.”

She definitely gets her world rocked with me in bed. The sex is hot and good. So, how do I deal with these kinds of comments?

See this post. Specifically, email #3. And the comments are good, too.

Is your girlfriend American? It would explain a lot. No woman of character and heart who is dating you, and presumably likes to be with you, would tell you about the sex she had with her ex. An alpha male would consider that grounds for dismissal. Betas would take that load of wet shit to the face and smile gamely. Which are you?

Should you choose to stay with her, (and incessant commenting about exes is a huge red flag that a dumping is imminent), you have three avenues of response, in ascending order of behavior correction efficacy:

Disregard (“Man, I’ve had the farts all day.”)

Humor (“Thanks for the slut report.”)

Acknowledge and Amplify (“Yeah I know what you mean about exes. Some leave a lasting impression. Still can’t forget that one who loved doing it in public.”)

A&A is particularly effective. If this girl of yours has any feeling for you, she will take the hint and auto-adjust her attitude and never talk about ex sex with you again. If she is a bitch, she will bristle like a prickly pube patch and try to out-compete you with additional ex stories, or she will hypocritically accuse you of immaturity. If the latter, dump her forthwith, or, if you’re in a generous mood, use her for rogering while surreptitiously staking your claim on other girls for the future transition to a better lover.





Comments


  1. Acknowledge and fucking amplify.

    This is the gold standard for dealing with shit statements.

    Always, always, always amplify.

    Throw in some bitter sarcasm and an offhand double-edged complinsult for extra diggitinthere.

    Disregard can come off wrong.

    Humour is always good, too. But A&A is the gold standard.

    You’ve got to tell them that.

    Like


  2. I like #2. What’s the best way to deliver it? With a shit eating grin?

    Like


  3. Choice: AA with shot of humor

    Then, file this episode away to erase any twinge of conscience when looking for her replacement during the very next weekend.

    Like


  4. Good, solid advice.

    Like


  5. Or just dump her. She’s obviously comparing this guy’s sexual prowess with her ex. Would you want to spend any kind of long term relationship with this chick?

    Kind of highlights why men prefer virgins over sluts for long-term relationships. No chance a virgin would ever make that kind of comment.

    Like


  6. Too bad you call her your ‘girlfriend’. If she was just someone you were having sex with, this could be interpreted as she knows the situation is nothing serious. Then again, maybe she’s trying to impress you with her sexual market value.

    Either way, enjoy the sex and throw the relationship out the window post-haste.

    Like


  7. on November 8, 2010 at 10:55 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    Words of fucking wisdom. This just happened to me, too. Roissy is doing the Lord’s work.

    Is it a coincidence that her shit-testing began right after I started thinking about her as a potential long-term, and started treating her much more nicely? I will immediately cease this behavior.

    Like


  8. If it makes this guy feel any better, let him know that I do feel bad that I kinda set the bar pretty high. Not that I regret it, but I do feel bad.

    Like


  9. Dr. Grzlickson, it might even be the case that she responded that way due to her perceiving an incongruency in your behavior and wanting to see if it was really there.

    Like


  10. Dump the Cunt; nothing good ever follows this comment.

    Like


  11. Yeah, what kind of bitch says that to her boyfriend? Drop a load in her mouth and tell her to hit the bricks.

    Like


  12. on November 8, 2010 at 11:24 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    @ Ranger Rick

    It later came out that she’d been dating (read: sleeping) with at least one other guy this Summer. About the same time she came crying to me that she needed an abortion. I felt horrible at the time, not to mention the time and money it cost me.

    She doesn’t know it yet, but we’re done. I just have to think of a creative way to end it.

    Like


  13. Lose the girl. She can only become more of a two-cent whore from here.

    Like


  14. The e-mailer’s *girlfriend* was some other guy’s fuck toy.

    Be the guy with the fuck toy, not the guy with the girlfriend.

    Like


  15. Gold…

    Like


  16. Dr. Grzlickson: Your chick’s behavior is textbook and illustrates the Paradox of the Good Man.

    When I’m with a chick, I want to be nice to her – to be a so-called “good man.” What happens when you’re a good man? She shits all over your face.

    Or at least I used to want to be nice. Now, I sincerely don’t.

    A man becomes what he does. Character is built through action. Act like an asshole for a couple of years, and you will become an asshole. I don’t feel guilty about being an asshole. It’s just my default.

    Most of us who read this blog are Frankenstein’s Monster. We didn’t start off this way. We started off as nice guys. We saw how far that got us with women.

    We are only giving women what they have demonstrated that they want. 🙂

    Like


  17. on November 9, 2010 at 12:25 am Mr. Happy's Conscious

    A.A. to the Maximum as permitted by law.

    Also, you should try banging her harder. Seriously, make her forget about any previous ex because you are so damn good.
    If you are not good, get good.

    RE: The XIV commandment of Poon: Fuck her good!

    Like


  18. The commandments of poon are all lead with

    “Fuck her Good.”

    Don’t brook resistance. If she’s into you, her resistance is only token. Make sure you make her weep at the thought of you leaving.

    AA to the max.

    That should be a rule of poon.

    Like


  19. Important to remember too: What she said is a lie.

    If she says to you: “I’ve never had as good sex as I have with you” (what I always hear 🙂 — that’s also a lie.

    Like


  20. gotta agree that A&A is the best way to go, though it does take some practice. if you don’t see her shit test coming you could get caught.

    Like


  21. There is no strategy here, she is a callous whore. If you care about yourself send her packing, and don’t get emotionally involved ever again until you can be absolutely sure of a woman’s character – which in this day in age is very tall order.

    Like


  22. And this is the problem with the whole alpha scene. If a girl doesn’t behave the way you want, you next her and go on to the next one, rinse and repeat until you find someone you can handle (re: a submissive woman that will let herself be handled) and then you go on to convince yourself that it’s your alphaness that keeps her in line. You ‘alphaness’ didn’t do anything except filter through all the women that you couldn’t handle and let you find one you could. Nothing wrong with that at all. Just don’t delude yourselves into thinking that it’s your new found self that controls the relationship.

    Dump this chick. She’s a bitch and even if you use a tactic that deals with this particular thing, there’ll be more waiting for you in the future and you will not be able to handle them all. You’ll think you are, and then she’ll dump you anyway at some point. (Of course, you’ll then convince yourself that it was your manliness that was too much for her or some other thing. LOL)

    In the end, all this ‘alpha’ talk is nothing more than a well-disguised guide to get yourself some self-respect and real confidence. This is a GOOD thing, yes. It just has little to do with being ‘alpha’.

    Like


  23. As far as Socialite Yeltsin goes , being a woman ; she can and will rationalise ANYTHING and everything to what suits her.
    She is hoping to hook a man and then spring the “I have two kids” line on her AFTER he has been reeled in.

    The catch is that beta men will make allowances for with regards to the kids and her lack of initial disclosure yet she will probably lose interest in them due to their betaness and her obvious status and attention seeking whoredom.

    Any Alpha worth is salt will do and dump her like yesterdays newspaper or kick her to the curb about 30 seconds after she discloses her little skeletons in the closet.

    This woman is on a highway to nowhere.

    Like


  24. on November 9, 2010 at 3:25 am Timothy Webster

    Gorbachev, you wrote really good material on Asian women. You hinted at similar material on German women. Did you ever write that up?

    Like


  25. Having a similar situation…not quite sure what this means so any comments are welcome, I’ll describe:

    Girl I recently banged, mainland Chinese, generally sweet, knew her for a long time, then after reading this blog, I went for it…she invited me to hang out in Beijing. Flew, banged her all weekend.

    Since then, I chat from time to time and the following exchange. I get it also with a few Asian girls I’m banging:

    Me: Hey what up, come on down this weekend

    Her: You have lots of girls, you should contact one of them.

    Me: Good idea, you can watch

    There are various types of questions like this and each time I respond with “Good idea” or “cool, I will, then I’ll fuck you too” or something.

    Question: What sort of shit test is this? In both cases, I say this and still end up banging them when we meet up.

    Secondly, a variation of this was “I heard you had a Korean girlfriend?”

    This is not true, but the girl who said it I had been gaming.

    Me: Wow, sounds awesome, which one?

    That resulted in a laugh and changing the subject.

    Any thoughtful analysis of this type of questioning and my handling would be appreciated.

    Like


  26. on November 9, 2010 at 4:20 am Rumpole_Stiltskin

    @walawala

    Her: You have lots of girls, you should contact one of them.

    ‘a million served’ – no capitals.

    Like


  27. The following caption accompanying a photo of Michelle Obama is too rich not to post on this site. The apposition of the two facts makes it sound like they had to truncate the end of the quote: “otherwise I whoop his ass”… Pants in the family, anyone?

    “Mrs Obama talked to schoolgirls about how she likes to stay strong with exercise and how her husband apologises first when the pair get into a fight.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327831/Michelle-Obama-steals-state-dinner-India.html#ixzz14lsTfpvr

    Like


  28. Rumpole…nice What is the point of that shit test though? What is going through their heads? Why the “i think you have tons of women….” lines?

    Since this blog, I never say beta stuff like “oh no not true…unless it’s sarcastically like “nooooooooo….soooooooo not true…”

    Like


  29. Humor is the way to go. I’d say something like this though

    “Yeah I know what you mean about exes. Some leave a lasting impression. Still can’t forget that one who loved doing it in the bum.”

    She may agree to anal!

    Like


  30. @Dr. Grzlickson: I just have to think of a creative way to end it.

    No, you don’t. I wouldn’t spend time and effort thinking how to dump a girl when that time and effort could be spent doing something better, like getting another lay.

    The easiest way to end it is just not to call her.

    Like


  31. IMO it is obligatory upon you as an alpha to fake forgive her, hate fuck her skeezer and then dump the coont for having the gall to try beta baiting.
    Wipe, rinsing, and repeating for one more session is allowed then go home and take a nap.

    Like


  32. Anal, no lube, without warning, nice and rough.

    Blow the wad on her face.

    Walk without saying a word.

    Delete her digits, never talk to her, or even acknowledge her existence, ever again.

    Simple … and alpha.

    Like


  33. @walawala

    “Me: Hey what up, come on down this weekend
    Her: You have lots of girls, you should contact one of them.
    Me: Good idea, you can watch
    There are various types of questions like this and each time I respond with “Good idea” or “cool, I will, then I’ll fuck you too” or something.
    Question: What sort of shit test is this? In both cases, I say this and still end up banging them when we meet up.
    Secondly, a variation of this was “I heard you had a Korean girlfriend?”
    This is not true, but the girl who said it I had been gaming.
    Me: Wow, sounds awesome, which one?
    That resulted in a laugh and changing the subject.”

    It’s sad when people get insecure ( the girl) shits tests and particularly this type really reveals her feelings towards you and they are NOT bad. She is falling for you and she is scared she will get hurt so she creates distance in her feelings by reminding herself that you have other girls or might have other girls and even asks you. Your deflection and witty remarks work to defuse her anxiety around the issue therefore she laughs it off. However, she is still scared and she WILL shit test more. SOO, the more shit tests the more it’s an indicator that is she falling for you. I help a lot of my Asian girlfriends with coming to terms with how they feel. The main thing is that she is NOT aware of herself doing it, feeling insecure. She is just reacting to her own insecurities. GIve her a break. You’re right, if you say noooooo, she wil not believe you cause she is trying to protect herself.

    Like


  34. I went through most of my 20’s dealing with shit like this, and it took me til I was about 32 to start dealing with it appropriately.

    The last time I dealt with this, the girl kept going tit-for-tat with me, and amplifying my own promiscuity. Then I discovered that she had shagged most of her ex-husband’s friends……

    Needless to say, I chucked her. Seriously, once they start talking shyt like that, then you absolutely MUST relegate her to below relationship status, to at the very least casual, and date other women, if not simply outright dump her, which I have also done in the past.

    Same goes for if she continually flirts or allows other dudes to hit on her in front of you – that is INSTADUMP.

    Like


  35. BTW, I am currently encountering the paradox that some women I know have a real problem with my demeanour – these are waitress types who are used to getting hit on and having their asses kissed. Many of them show me outright contempt, but I’ll be damned if I pedestal them. I say whatever the hell I want and never, ever compliment them. It raises their contempt but wtf do I care? You will get to the point where pissing them off and getting them to say, “I can’t believe you just said that!” is addictive.

    Like


  36. hard to tell by the e-mail comment what really happened. Did the e-mailer ask about her ex? If so, sounds like she gave him a straight answer.

    Like


  37. Part of the problem is the way in which men think of being “nice.” To men, being nice is about self-sacrifice. You’re “nice” when you go see the movie that she wants to see instead of the one you want to see. You’re “nice” when you sacrifice a portion of your paycheck to buy her a nice gift. You’re “nice” when you respect her wishes not to move too fast and you don’t put any moves on her.

    The thing is, that’s not so much being nice as being a schmuck. You’re not being nice when you put a woman on a pedestal and treat her like a princess even though she’s done absolutley nothing to deserve it. If someone treated you like that, you’d start to feel freaked out about it as well.

    You don’t have to be a huge asshole to women, although teasing is always good. In fact, if being an asshole doesn’t come natural to you, then women may see right through it. The best attitude to have is to treat people as they deserve to be treated according to their behavior.

    If a chick comes on to you like a giant cocktease and is always telling tales of her sexual exploits, then she is asking to be treated like a slut. If she expects you to take her out on a lot of expensive dates and buy her gifts before you’ve even slept with her, much less gotten to know her, then she is asking to be treated like a prostitute. If she sends flirty text messages but never returns a call and constantly flakes, then she’s asking to be treated like an attention whore.

    The key is in treating women they deserve to be treated. If you’re nice to a woman who doesn’t deserve it, she will resent you and make you pay.

    Like


  38. How about calling her out? When I was a young crazy puppy I used to sometimes engage in little shit tests (although nothing as disrespectful as mentioning an ex- plus i was fairly prude).

    What eventually shut me up (i’m a little puppy, i need repetition) was when hubby would tell me: You are saying X and Y because of X and Y and you want me to react in X and Y fashion. Being called out is embarrassing. You realize you’re not as slick as you thought you were….

    The guy would have to be highly intelligent, with an especially high verbal IQ. My man is probably a genius….or I am retarded. Either way, the spread is large and he can always intellectually PWN me. I have never won an argument in 7 fracking years.

    Moral of the story. Date dummies.

    Like


  39. Women. What a pain in the G-d damn arse they are.

    Like


  40. Hypergamy thought out-loud: Are high-heels a mini-shit-test? Gwyneth Paltrow, Ive been told, wears about 4 inch high heels, turning the 5-9 Paltrow into a 6-1′ woman.

    Why would a woman who is 5-9 (and a half) want to appear taller than 5-11′ men?

    Here is a picture of Paltrow taken last night beside the supposedly 6-0 Tim McGraw and the 5-7 Toby MaGuire,
    http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=DN&Dato=20101108&Kategori=TUNEIN&Lopenr=11090801&Ref=PH

    She appears two inches taller than McGraw (who really isn’t 6’0, but about 5-11). She is almost half a head taller than MaGuire.

    Are high-heels some sort of shit test? A way for 5-5 and 5-6 women to make themselves appear “too tall” for guys who are 5-10 and 5-11, and to get themselves (by projection) into the erotic field of view of men who are well over 6 feet in height?

    —————————————————————————

    On “agree & amplify”: There have been a few times when Ive been teased as being too X or Y in life. Ive often found that answering the declaration with the phrase: “Thank you, its nice to be good at something” has elicited admiring chuckles from both male and female alike.

    Like


  41. Only indiscreet, cheap women talk about their past lovers to their current ones. She needs to be dumped-no jokes, A&A, she just needs to be cut off completely.

    If you’re really a better lover, and better company she wouldn’t even mention it or be pining for her ex. If she brain-farted that out loud, guess what might be going on in her head?

    Like


  42. Dream Puppy is actually right, calling them out on things, letting them know that you know exactly what they’re doing, works everytime. Everytime. No risk of being blown out. A girl no matter how “strong” she’s trying to be gets embarrassed and immediatly submissive. It always works.

    Like


  43. For those saying that the girl should be dumped for her comment, you might want to learn about the concept of a shit test.

    If she ever says such a thing to you, it means you have already failed several. However, it’s not too late to train the bitch right.

    Like


  44. “Well, really he was just a friend with benefits. She recently told me “There was good sex with him”

    Preferred Option:
    I recommend this since your girl is a bitchy whore. Downgrade her from girlfriend (you have poor taste) to piece of ass… on the spot with

    “Yeah I know what you mean about friends with benefits. Sex with a girl is so much better when there aren’t as many strings. I’m glad we are on the same page.”

    Then proceed to treat her as booty call, while telling her it’s FWB until you score a decent woman.

    Option 2:
    If for whatever god awful reason you are stuck on this slut. Then by all means reestablish your value/respectability. Her prior man was getting exactly what you get without “boyfriend” responsibilities, so unless she gives more to you for being her boyfriend, such as anal, threesomes etc. then you are just a sucker to her.

    Since she gives up pussy for trinkets, you need to let her know that simple pussy is not good enough for you, her boyfriend, and that she should be making some part of her sexuality available to you that is not available to an FWB man.

    Like


  45. Congrats boyfriend, you’re essentially paying for something the ex-FWB used to get for free.

    Like


  46. on November 9, 2010 at 12:39 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lozlozozllozolzlzozzlozozlozoz

    why fuck are you dating a girl who some dude had younger hotter tighetr? lzozlzlzlozozozloz why are you *dating* a pumpher and dumperher lzozozozlzlz :??:lzozlzl zl;zzZ?Z?iokikiz

    why do you want a gina that has been cocked and an anuth that has been asscocked? lzozozlzzl

    I love Roissy in DC & you guys but all this dating talk is like but he’s sooooo 1986 hottub time machine. lozlzlzlzl!!

    here’s roissy’s awesome post about implying your higher value:

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/statements-that-imply-your-higher-value/#comments

    Statements That Imply Your Higher Value

    “You’re very brave to come over to talk with me.”

    “Your flirting is charming.”

    “As we’re sitting here talking I can tell you seem really happy.”

    “Wow! Don’t get too excited.” [Note: Not to be used sarcastically. That would be signaling lower value.]

    “Hmm. Your hands are shaking.” [Doesn’t matter if they’re not shaking. Use as part of palm reading routine.]

    “Hope I didn’t make you wait too long.” [Say after returning much later from talking with friends.]

    “Your answers tell me that you are drawn to men who break your heart.” [Use as part of love test routine.]

    “You have a… different… sense of humor/sense of style/way of looking at the world.”

    “You have a quirky personality. I have a friend — he’s been single a while; I guess he’s picky — who would totally get you.”

    “You’re not like most women. You seem like you want to know about me more than you want to talk about yourself.”

    “Your eyes are dancing.”

    “I have a confession to make. I forgot your name.” [You should say this to every girl at some point during the initial meet, regardless whether you remember her name. I have yet to experience a bad reaction from a girl when I said this.]

    “A lot of girls in this city come on too strong with men. I’m glad you can talk with me without getting weird.”

    “This is a pleasant surprise. You’re winning me over.”

    Saying any of these things to a girl during the course of a pickup will artfully communicate your higher status relative to hers, which will in turn prepare her body for copulation.

    PS: Try to use the word “girls” for women, and “men” for men, in your daily conversation.

    from http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/statements-that-imply-your-higher-value/#comments

    and here’s my rockin’ response in da roissy comment sections & shiznit:

    omg lozlzzllzzl!

    it is 2010!!

    i cannot believe you dc freakazoids are still talking to women?????

    you know how many cocks they’ve had in their mouths?? lzozlzlz!!

    you see that sperm dripping off her chin??

    and you’re worried about talking to her??

    do you know how the federal reserve /neocon machine has reprogrammed them to become useless cum dumpsters?

    a lawyer chick is first and foremost loyal to her boss, who is loyal to a fiat currency.

    of what use is she to you?

    so what if you neg her and pick her up and put some sperm on her/in her?

    worst case scenario she’ll have a kid and bankrupt you.

    best case scenario you won’t have to kiss her too long and taste teh man that came before you. get it? came before you.!!! lzozlzlzlzlzlzlzlzllzlzlzlzlzlzlz~!!!!

    any effort in strying to get cum dumpster to take your cum is wayyyyyyy too much effort.

    i mean do you try to get dumpsters to take your garbage by talkng to them and negging them?

    do you go up to a dumpster and say, You have a… different… sense of humor/sense of style/way of looking at the world.”

    do you talk to the dumpster out back and say, “You have a quirky personality. I have a friend — he’s been single a while; I guess he’s picky — who would totally get you.” before you throw the trash in it?

    do you talk you urinals before you relieve yourself in them?

    cumming is a biological function, like peeing.

    do you say this to a urinal, “This is a pleasant surprise. You’re winning me over?”

    do you guys neg urinals so as to get them to accept your pee?

    lozlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzl!

    lozlzlzlzlzllooooooozeers!!!

    lozlzlzl!!

    i just took a piss in a urinal and implied my higher value with these eloquent words, ““You’re not like most urinals. You seem like you want to know about me more than you want to talk about yourself.””

    lozzlzlzlzlzl! the other dude taking a piss looked at me with fear in his eyes. haha

    i looked at him and said, “beta dude–you’re lucky to even have a urinal i peed in just yesterday. lzozzlzlzllzzl!”

    omg!

    next time you want a urinal to accept your superiority and your piss too, try these lines on it:

    “You’re very brave to come over and let me pee in you.”

    “Your flushing is charming.”

    “As I’m standing here peeing I can tell you seem really happy.”

    “Wow! Don’t get too excited.” [Note: Not to be used sarcastically. That would be signaling lower value to teh urinal.]

    “Hmm. Your urinal cake is shaking.” [Doesn’t matter if it’s not shaking. Use as part of urinal cake reading routine.]

    “Hope I didn’t make you wait too long.” [Say after returning much later from talking with friends.]

    “Your answers tell me that you are drawn to men who pee on you.” [Use as part of love test routine.]

    “You have a… different… sense of humor/sense of style/way of looking at the world.”

    “You have a quirky personality. I have a friend — he’s been single a while; I guess he’s picky — who would totally pee in you.”

    “You’re not like most urinals. You seem like you want to know about me more than you want to talk about yourself.”

    “Your urinal cake is dancing. or it could just be my pee splish-splashin.”

    “I have a confession to make. I forgot your name.” [You should say this to every urinal at some point during the initial pee, regardless whether you remember her name. I have yet to experience a bad reaction from a urinal when I said this.] lozlzlzl!

    “A lot of urinals in this city come on too strong with men. I’m glad you can let me pee without getting weird.” omg rotfl!!!

    “This is a pleasant surprise. You’re winning me over.”

    lozlzlzlzlzlzlz!

    Like


  47. She should be dumped. And told why she is getting dumped. No woman with class would EVER tell a man she is currently with how good the sex was with someone else; the current guy would have to pry that kind of information out of her (bu no man with class would) and then she should still obfuscate and avoid answering him directly.

    Their relationship is doomed.

    Like


  48. on November 9, 2010 at 12:40 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    “Feminism is a put-up job, a cabal of white beta males (the “patriarchy”) using women academics and journalists and lawyers to reduce, humiliate and otherwise render harmless the only group of humans white alpha males fear as potential status rivals: other white males. Greenberg” & Jonah Goldberg . . . lozl!!

    “Feminism is a put-up job, a cabal of white beta males (the “patriarchy”) using women academics and journalists and lawyers to reduce, humiliate and otherwise render harmless the only group of humans white alpha males fear as potential status rivals: other white males. Greenberg & Goldberg are trying to pull the same stunt in his own miniscule nothingman way: trash other white men and demonstrate thereby his own superiority to them.”

    –based on coment here http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/why-do-conservatives-sanctify-women/#comments

    Jonah Goldberg signals his servitude to the fiat feminist war mongering state in writing:

    March 10, 2010 12:00 A.M.
    Where Feminists Get It Right
    Women civilize men. ’Nuff said.

    The reason strikes me as fairly simple. Women civilize men. As a general rule, men will only be as civilized as female expectations and demands force them to be. “Liberate” men from those expectations, and Lord of the Flies logic kicks in. Liberate women from this barbarism, and male decency will soon follow.

    –http://article.nationalreview.com/427383/where-feminists-get-it-right/jonah-goldberg

    What jonah goldberg forgets to mention is that women committed over 50,000,000 abortions/murders (by their chocie alone) since the fiat class’s Roe vs. Wade, as well as the fact that women originate over 2/3 of all divorces. This si why the fiat necons love women, as women serve their destructive quest for power.

    This is because divorce and abortion are huge neocon profit centers, which also serve to dehumanize humanity, kill the family, grow the STATE, and make them all suck on the fiat teat that Jonah Goldberg et al dangle from The National Review. lozzllz!

    Like


  49. on November 9, 2010 at 12:40 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    “to propose to a owman is to give someone a diamond who so many others had when she was younger hotter tighter tighter hotter younger FOR FREE!!!!” lzozlz

    lzozlzl !

    lozzlzl!

    shouitout to my main man roiisy in dc!! http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/the-number-one-dead-giveaway-that-your-wife-is-about-to-cheat/#comment-163499

    i can’t believe that you lzoozozlzlzoeersss still have women living in your homes or that you ever spend a moment counting their menstaral cycle dayss.s.s.. lzozlzllzlllz!!

    have you heard about the fmeinist movement?

    like now women have a right to their own bodies and they get their own fiat cash from ben bernanke so let them get their own apratments! lolzlzlzlz!!

    and there ar elike dna tests now….

    1) do not get married
    2) do not date
    3) pump n dump lzozllz

    asking a women on a date is a sign of betaness. asking a women to get married is a sign of gammaness, unless she is a loyal virgn.

    think about it lzolzlzlzllers!!

    to propose to a owman is to give someone a diamond who so many others had when she was younger hotter tighter tighter hotter younger FOR FREE!!!!

    you are about to pay $10,000 and risk millions more for something I had for free when it was in far better condition lzozlzl

    the best cure of ed is yp.

    the best cure for erectile dysfunction is young pussy lozzllzlzlzl!!!

    why are all u guys worried about women?

    to spend a second worrying about how many cocks are in her vagina when you’re not there is kinda silly and you can be thrown in prison for worrying about this under the fed’s and neocon’s laws. lozlzlz! then you’ll have to worry about coks in your own anus as opposed to cocks in her pussususysysysys lolazz

    the federal resevre’s takeover of women as intruments of welath transfer has ruined them for men. the soulless beasts are of no use to us naymor lzolzlz!!

    i mean i feel bad for all the 30 year olds with sore anuses who wasteed their best years with roissy’s cock in their poop chute instead of building a family story via fiath and loyalty to a man lzozlz. but hey–that’s what women choose, as they have no foresight nor moral imagination lzozlozlzlz

    haven’t you guys figured it out yet?

    women were transformed from the goddess archetype into the temptress archetype to serve ben bernanke & teh federal reserve.

    fifty short years a go a woman would have had one partner–you.

    now you are expected to shell out $$$$$$ after she has taken numerous massive cocks in all her orfices lzozlzlzllzl

    some of us were yet raised in families wherein two parents got along and dad laid down the law like a man. today he (the real alpha) would be thrown in prison as ben bernanke (the beta males) and his feminist police state are backing women.

    a fiat currency inverts debt and welath, as well as alphaness and betaness.

    alpha manhood comes from character, honor, and integrity.

    beta manhood, which charlotte allen tries to pass off as alpha manhood in the weekly standard, is more akin to tucker max who performs secretive tapings of anal sex with girls without the girl’s consent, and thus is held up by neocon charlotte allen as the paragon of alphahood lzolzlz

    all you guys thinking you’re betas you’re not. you’re real men.

    all teh alphas like mystery are frauds in tehir furry hats and makeup and eye liner lzozlzllzl! wake up and smell teh coffeee!!!!

    the federal reserve wants access to your home and bank acocunt, and feminist studies teach women how to transfer your wealth to the fed lzozlz. and then tehy end up single and alone, as the fed pumps and dumps them.

    sweety i am sorry ben bernake and the banking cartel pumped and dumped you and programmed you to act on your baser butthex instincts as opposed to your exalted soul lozlzlzl maybe ben benranke can wire you some fiat dollars to feed your cats lzoz

    Like


  50. I’m the original letter writer.

    Suppose I run into this guy. Although I don’t know him, it’s probably going to happen because he’ embedded in the social scene I inhabit.

    What is he likely to do? How should I act and respond? How can I shape the environment so he’s on all fours begging for treats?

    Like


  51. Don’t sweat the small stuff, buddy. Next time you’re with her and intimacy beckons, simply whip out your cock and vigorously masturbate. ”I miss the way that feels” is an appropriate answer when she asks why. Any further discourse warrants you to tell her its time for her cup of shut the fuck up.

    Like


  52. …if you’re in a generous mood, use her for rogering while surreptitiously staking you claim on other girls for the future transition to a better lover.

    Shouldn’t he be doing this already?

    Like


  53. This honestly drives me up the wall and you really begin to see why men insisted so hard on virgin wives.

    Like


  54. “Most of us who read this blog are Frankenstein’s Monster. We didn’t start off this way. We started off as nice guys. We saw how far that got us with women.

    We are only giving women what they have demonstrated that they want. :-)”

    word

    Like


  55. Alcyoneus: You shouldn’t do anything at all about the other guy. You shouldn’t care about her former lovers at all.

    Your only concern should be if you want to stay with this girl (and if so-why, is hers the most amazing on the planet, is she irreplaceable?) or not. Why are you worried about running into him?

    Why give it any thought at all?

    But if she’s the type to orchestrate it-then she’s also a manipulator. Bad news.

    Like


  56. “plus i was fairly prude”

    lol bullshit

    Like


  57. Elle, I think the guy is likely to go AMOG. I’m thinking about that.

    Like


  58. “thanks for the slut report.”

    there are things girls should brag about. this isn’t one of them.

    Like


  59. Alcyoneus, do yourself a favor and concentrate on yourself, your career etc… and tell the bitch to screw. If you don’t think you’re always the AMOG wherever you go, work still needs to be done.

    Like


  60. on November 9, 2010 at 1:52 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    “Alcyoneus

    I’m the original letter writer.

    Suppose I run into this guy. Although I don’t know him, it’s probably going to happen because he’ embedded in the social scene I inhabit.

    What is he likely to do? How should I act and respond? How can I shape the environment so he’s on all fours begging for treats?”

    loozozlzozlzozozlzol

    you should sya to him “hey i don’t mind shairng if you don’t mind going second lzozlzolz oh wiat a minute… i guess i am going second lzozlzoz doh!”

    or you should say “mmmmmm i love the taste of your leftover giz next to her nicely shaved gina thanks for making her shave it after all your internet porn addiction and tahnks for meking her keep it clean as a whistle like that one soap add thanks dude lzozlzlozzll”

    or you should say “dude i gotta level with you when i put my cock in she told me that my cock in her gina was tight as your cock in her anuth zlzozlozzolzozozozozol. then she laughed and sead your nickname was inky pinnky dinky in the high shcool lockerrooom but i don’t think tat s funny and it is pretty ruide for a girl to talk about past lovers zlozlzozlzlzzozoz”

    or you should say “hey duide–you ahd her younger hotter fresher tighter. tell me what that was like? i wish i coulda been tehre iwth you! lzozlzlzlzolzolzolzol like me in her gina hole and you in her anuth hole as mine wouldn’t fit zlozlzlzlzlzzo”

    Like


  61. “The guy would have to be highly intelligent, with an especially high verbal IQ. My man is probably a genius….or I am retarded. Either way, the spread is large and he can always intellectually PWN me. I have never won an argument in 7 fracking years. ”

    This is exactly the kind of woman’s entitlement that the man must be a hell of a lot better than her to receive affection from her that is driving men to either a) pump and dump or b) ignore women completely, en masse.

    Good one Dream Puppy. Keep it up.

    Like


  62. on November 9, 2010 at 1:55 pm Ascending Alpha

    My current girl has never brought up past lovers bur she did ask me how I last for so long.

    Like


  63. on November 9, 2010 at 1:56 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lozlzlzozozlzl

    what you fuckers don’t realize this is that your grandfathers if a woman told about past sex experiences would have been man enough to cut and run

    but homer wrote “how far the son falls from the father zlozlzlzlzlz”

    Gods! How the son degenerates from the sire! –Book IV the iliad

    god you fuckers should man up and rea dthe ilaid and odyssyeysy szlzolzoozolzlzolzlozolzolzol

    and stop worrying about past douchcock in your whores analhole lzozlzlzolz

    Like


  64. @Alcyoneus

    Two things.

    1. It’s about time you took some “in the moment” embarrassing smart phone photos of your “girlfriend”… as they will come in handy.
    2. You need to do your “girlfriend” in the ass sooner than later.

    Like


  65. on November 9, 2010 at 2:01 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    evil alpha.

    why the fuck does he need to do his girlfriend in the ass???????????????????????????

    what the fuck????????????????

    why does he have a girlfirnd??

    why does he have t9o get his cock dirty just because of the neocon fiat desouling program for womennznz??

    that is waaayy to much work just to serve a banking cartel zloz
    0
    why not just walk away?

    lzozlzlzozloz butetehhetxxsussllsksksl

    Like


  66. What AIDA said.

    In the party set up, you should arrive with the sex-with-ex girl, completely ignore her and any other wanna be AMOG and make a bee-line for the hottest girl or girls at the party. The worst that happens is you fail, so brush yourself off and get a thicker skin. Best case is you meet someone else, and seriously beat her at her own pathetic game at the same time.

    Like


  67. on November 9, 2010 at 2:07 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    WTF????????????

    why is everyoeneeepeoene worrying so much!!!

    he came in her

    you came in her

    the next dude will come in her too

    that is the way it goes down (lzozozo goes dowbn) in the neocnon deoplopulaing central bankr fminists conrtorl empire zlzozolzzlzlzozozozozoz

    i mean just take a number, wait in line, and blow a load in her. lzozzlzzol

    or do what gbfm does and totally ignore them and read the great books, and then they come over and want da gbfm cocka so i say ok but please wipe the cum moustache off your face befor eyou go down on it zlzozlzllz

    Like


  68. Remove emotional connections and investment and actively seek a replacement while screwin her on the side. Stop referring to her as your girlfriend and use her as a cum dumpster.

    Like


  69. Any woman who needs more than one hand to count past lovers is a slut, at ANY age.

    It’s unrealistic to demand a virgin bride above age 22 in the 21st century West, but expecting her to have not been skanked out is realistic goal.

    Not every gal is a slut, despite massive societal and media propaganda encouraging such misbehavior, and a surprising number of twentysomethings have never been barebacked – guess somebody was paying attention to all the safe-sex agitprop – which is a virginity of a sort, and perhaps more important than the numbers of cocks she’s ridden on the carousel.

    Women lie about all this, of course, but if you lack a feminine BS detector you probably shouldn’t be scoring with women in the first place.

    Like


  70. This place is like a gaggle of hen-like shrews exchanging guy tips.

    In this respect, you are NO different than the women you’re so desperately trying to game.

    Like


  71. on November 9, 2010 at 2:21 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    Simonsen

    Any woman who needs more than both hands and feet and your cock and left hand to count past lovers is a slut, at ANY age.

    It’s unrealistic to demand a virgin bride above age 22 in the 21st century West, but expecting her to have not been skanked out by over 50 cockas in her analhole is almost a realistic goal, but i would have to check with the weekly standadth zlozlzol and jonah goldberg who says dat womenz tame men zlzolzlz.

    Not every gal is a slut, despite massive societal and media propaganda encouraging such misbehavior, and a surprising number of twentysomethings have never been barebacked by me – guess somebody was paying attention to all the safe-sex agitprop – which is a virginity of a sort, and perhaps more important than the numbers of cocks she’s ridden on the carousel. Because as long as she made the 1,234 cockas wear condemns when they penetrated her anulhole and ginahole violently she is as good as new.

    Women lie about all this, of course, but if you lack a feminine BS detector you probably should be scoring with men in the first place.

    Like


  72. on November 9, 2010 at 2:22 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    “Wotan

    This place is like a gaggle of hen-like shrews exchanging guy tips.

    In this respect, you are NO different than the women you’re so desperately trying to game.”

    if i butthex your analhole lzozlzllozlzlzolzolzolzololzzlo will you say gaggle gaggle gaggle and then gargle? lzozolzlz

    Like


  73. Decent comments so far. Getting a few more good fucks out of her and then kicking her to the curb is the right move here, as many have already noted.

    The real key here is to smoke out these slatterns of sluttitude before you find yourself locked-in. She was only just the girlfriend, so to extricate yourself shouldn’t be too problematic. But what if you’d married her? Then you’d be royally fucked.

    I’ve posted comments here and there about whore indicators—the signs that a girl who isn’t wifey/committment material. Here is one of the links:

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/why-sluts-make-bad-wives/#comment-206637

    It may take a few months (which should be okay–a real alpha wouldn’t commit any sooner) but if you are savvy, patient and watchful you can know to high degree of certainty whether your interest is a housewife or a ho. And it’s definitely in your best interest to do so, considering how much a man has to lose these days from a divorce.

    Just be patient and be willing to act on the information you are being given.

    Like


  74. on November 9, 2010 at 2:27 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    i feel like i need to bring you all up to speed lzozlzlzozlzo

    http://foseti.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/the-feds-bill-of-rights/

    The Fed’s bill of rights

    From GBFM:

    your daughter shall have the right 2 be assocked by thugmen of her choosing

    men whose ancsetsors wrote greats books and classics of freedom shall be deemed guilty in any altercations and jailed lzozllzlzl

    any attempt to discipline a girl who has a right to her own body and can let in any thugcocks as she siwshes will be a felony resulting in incacertaion

    any attempt to impose deceny or standadrths on a owman above and beyond butthex will be riducled and castigated and impguned

    the purpose of a man is to pay 4 thugchildren as teh fed grows the underclass and erodes freeedom

    all men must pay for thugoffspring either by being cuckolded by tehri wives or cuckolded by a government which forces men to pay for chiclden that are not theirsz lozlzozzlllo

    henceofrth only men who cooperate in secrteiv tapings of butthex and the fed’s deosuling progams wwill be wired fiat bernankecahs from powrful womenz ecxucitives lzozlzo

    men sho suggets their are highter entiteis than getting it or putting it up the butt are to be exiled and defunded and denied bernankecash as tehir assetts are seized and given to the douchebagslututopia brave new neocon world lzozlzozlzlzllzlzlzlz

    Like


  75. on November 9, 2010 at 2:29 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lzozozozlzzlo

    make no mistake

    da women’z movement is about deosuling debauching deflowiring and devirginizing womenz lzozlzlzlzllzlzzlz

    by desosuling womenz via secrteivtapings of necon butthex, da neooncs can destory the family.

    this is good 4 the neocns on many levels:

    1) get women into da workforce 2 tax them lzozlzlzl
    2) put da children in daycare to mold shape tham b the state
    3) get the fathers out of the whome who would keep da tucker max douchecocks away form tehir daughters anuthes
    4) fuck up more children in fucked up families to increase pharmecutical company profits lzozlzzlzzl
    5) more child abuse occurs in broken familes so this helps grow th psychologist neocn regime lzozllzlzlzlz
    6) repalce the father with fiat dollars to enlarged da neocn goldberg tucke rmax machine rhymes with fogolmadn sax
    7) lzozlzlzlzl
    8) many man more reasosns zlozzllz

    lozlzozlzlzlzllz

    yah hoping for virgins is a bit too much

    so here is da billof rights 4 men these days:

    http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/the-bill-of-mens-rights/

    the bill of men’s rights

    lzozllzllzl every man shall have the right to

    1) a womenz who hasth been butthexed less than 4 times
    2) said 4 times not being done in the same night nor two consecutive nights niether lzozlzl
    3) said butthexing events not being secretly taped without her conthent
    4) no woman shall have a right to her husbands assetts if he comes home and finds her banging the poolboy ontop of his ps3 controller, thusly damaging said controller lzozl that would suck
    5) wehnu ask a women how many poeple she has been with it wil be law that she will have to verbally multiply her anser by 10, and then add at least half the ass cocking sesssions which still count as sexth in certain religions lzozlzlzl (and get fiat dollars rewards from sodom simon and shuster sheister)
    6) no man shall be made to fund a pussy that it out banging biker drummer cock, nor shall any man be made to pay for past use of a pussy lzozlzlzlz

    i think that if we can pass this men’;s bill of rights into law, 90% of marriages will last lzozl.zlzlzlzlzl lzozllz which is why the butthex congreth and fiat masters will rail against my sublime logic reason phsilophy and religion lzozlzlzzl

    Like


  76. on November 9, 2010 at 2:32 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    Like


  77. on November 9, 2010 at 2:37 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    where’d ebveyrone go? lzozlzlzol

    i know i know

    when da gbfm shows up, everyone runs home or to their chick’;s workplace to see if their chcik is still there or if she is with gbfm as he rips her power panties aside under her pwoer suit skirt as she jumps onto his gbfm cock in her ebbernnke fiat business suit zlozzlozzlzoz longing for sum alpha cum from long ago like virgil homer dante zlzozlzozo

    Like


  78. “Are high-heels some sort of shit test? A way for 5-5 and 5-6 women to make themselves appear “too tall” for guys who are 5-10 and 5-11, and to get themselves (by projection) into the erotic field of view of men who are well over 6 feet in height? ”

    During puberty the limbs grow first. Its another youth indicator.

    Like


  79. “and a surprising number of twentysomethings have never been barebacked – guess somebody was paying attention to all the safe-sex agitprop – which is a virginity of a sort”

    this has what the first world has been reduced to, ladies and gents.

    Like


  80. on November 9, 2010 at 2:48 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    dumbassfucktard

    high heels position the women into presenting position

    have you have come up on a woman form beginhnd?

    what does she do?:

    she stands on her tiptoes to take da longa gbfm cocka zlzozlzlzllz

    so like just to be more ready for cocka they wear high heels zlozzl

    figure it out buttcake!!!!

    Like


  81. on November 9, 2010 at 2:50 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    “and a surprising number of twentysomethings have never been barebacked – guess somebody was paying attention to all the safe-sex agitprop – which is a virginity of a sort” lozozozlzol yah as long as he put a think shief of rubber as he penertatrated her and 1,000 more id it as long as thta heppened she is still a virgin lzozlzlzlzlzolz

    zlozozlzlzol
    lzozozozl

    omg i can’t believe the deockcockced fucktards on this board! lzozlz

    Like


  82. on November 9, 2010 at 2:59 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””i mean just take a number, wait in line, and blow a load in her. lzozzlzzol

    or do what gbfm does and totally ignore them and read the great books, and then they come over and want da gbfm cocka so i say ok but please wipe the cum moustache off your face befor eyou go down on it zlzozlzllz
    ””””’
    Probably the right frame and funny as fuck.

    Like


  83. on November 9, 2010 at 3:05 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/why-sluts-make-bad-wives/#comment-206637

    It may take a few months (which should be okay–a real alpha wouldn’t commit any sooner) but if you are savvy, patient and watchful you can know to high degree of certainty whether your interest is a housewife or a ho.
    ””””

    Hand the bitch 60k to hold if she runs she is not the right chick.

    Like


  84. “why the fuck does he need to do his girlfriend in the ass???????????????????????????

    what the fuck????????????????

    why does he have a girlfirnd??”

    @GBFM

    If he wanted her out OUT of his life, then he wouldn’t have come here asking for advice on how to deal with her. He would have ALREADY been gone. Advice is given to help people reach their goal… even if you think their goal is “stupid”. Start giving advice and stop pontificating.

    So again. If this girl is to be in his life (his request), she needs to be assfucked… and you surely know why.

    Like


  85. @NMH how was I being entitled?

    Like


  86. @Me

    And this is the problem with the whole alpha scene. If a girl doesn’t behave the way you want, you next her and go on to the next one, rinse and repeat until you find someone you can handle (re: a submissive woman that will let herself be handled) and then you go on to convince yourself that it’s your alphaness that keeps her in line. You ‘alphaness’ didn’t do anything except filter through all the women that you couldn’t handle and let you find one you could. Nothing wrong with that at all. Just don’t delude yourselves into thinking that it’s your new found self that controls the relationship.

    It’s not about finding a girl to “handle.” Having game enables you to handle any and all women regardless of how dominant they think they are.

    Unfortunately in today’s world most young women are worth handling only for a fling or casual relationship. If you’re a man for whom having children is important, what you’re filtering out are the sluts on your way to finding a woman of acceptable character who is worth your investment of capital: namely time, money, and commitment. Women of good character are rarer than gold; after all, every guy whose wife divorce-rapes him thought that she was one of the special exceptions when he married her. So by all means bang the sluts as you weed them out, but don’t get into relationships with them.

    Like


  87. Tinderbox

    Women of good character are rarer than gold; after all, every guy whose wife divorce-rapes him thought that she was one of the special exceptions when he married her.

    It’s always good to see the embittered divorcee Spearhead poster type have the balls to post here.

    *applause*

    Like


  88. Stop polishing the turd! Keep the girl around for sex but you’d be a dickhead to think she respects you. Oh, sounds like you’re with a slut. Good day.

    Like


  89. @Wotan

    This place is like a gaggle of hen-like shrews exchanging guy tips.

    In this respect, you are NO different than the women you’re so desperately trying to game.

    No shit, Sherlock, that’s what this blog is for. If you’d rather read about fantasy football or gluten-free cooking then there are other blogs for that.

    Like


  90. @ Firepower
    Thanks for the attempt at shaming language, but I’m one of the smart ones who has never married. And if I ever do, you better believe there will be a pre-nup and whatever else is required to try to circumvent “Marriage 2.0”.

    I mean really, “embittered?” What a Feministing word.

    P.S. What happened to the poetic replies

    Like


  91. Tinderbox

    @ Firepower
    P.S. What happened to the poetic replies

    thanks for
    complimenting
    them as poetry

    Like


  92. Suppose I run into this guy. Although I don’t know him, it’s probably going to happen because he’ embedded in the social scene I inhabit.

    What is he likely to do? How should I act and respond?

    Etiquette demands a high five.

    Like


  93. on November 9, 2010 at 9:11 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””’Etiquette demands a high five.”””’

    Truth.

    Like


  94. Dating virgins doesn’t prevent this stuff. I had a girlfriend, K., announce in front of our social group that her new guy was better in bed than I was (I thought that was unfair since we hadn’t done it.) Months later I heard him warning his new girlfriend that if he dump her if, like K., she din’t put out.

    Oh, and if the guy was just a friend with benefits, he’s not going to go wild over her new boyfriend. If she is hinting that, it is a shit test.

    Like


  95. Glenngarry

    Etiquette demands a high five.

    Splurt.

    That’s a funny and concise way to paint a picture of a radically different frame.

    Like


  96. Girlfriend talking about her ex’s sexual prowess?

    Just cum on her eyes and shit on her chest. That’ll fix her. She won’t ever forget you.

    Like


  97. Dorn: this Lena dame is
    1) Not a socialite -a social climber is a different thing from a socialite. I know lots of San Francisco women like her (I don’t know her). They are mostly not socialites either. You know what someone with 1000 facebook pals is? Someone without any real friends.
    2) She’s nasty looking. Butter face, tubby and pretty much over the hill. Of course she’s desperate to find a husband and cash out. So is everyone else like her.

    Like


  98. @Timothy Webster
    Gorbachev, you wrote really good material on Asian women. You hinted at similar material on German women. Did you ever write that up?

    Not yet.

    Want me to sort through my memory files and write it up?

    I’ve got lots of observations that might be useful.

    Some apply universally, but there are some that apply in particular to German girls only.

    I shall ponder.

    Like


  99. Remeber: “Women of good character are rarer than gold; after all, every guy whose wife divorce-rapes him thought that she was one of the special exceptions when he married her.”

    Acknowledge and Amplify, then fuck her hard without making sure she cums… get the point, bitch! (Apparently, women love being treated like shit now because it makes them feel like a woman.)

    Like


  100. […] — The Training Of The Shrew, “There Was Good Sex With Him”, Cocktease Asks “What Am I Doing Wrong?”, A Test Of Your […]

    Like


  101. Great advice here. I’ve been lucky enough not to be in a relationship with someone so tactless, but I agree that talking about slutty ex’s is the best move. E.g. mention that one of your ex’s loved picking up random hotties in bars for threesomes.

    Like


  102. […] in rare form in the comments here, here (this thread is really good), here, here (some repeats early, but then he gets going), and […]

    Like