Cocktease Asks “What Am I Doing Wrong?”

I have this friend, a girl, who is a total attention whore. Fittingly, she would glow with pride at being called that. As a cute, young single girl without brat baggage and of slender proportions and flirtatious disposition, she usually has some beta or two wrapped around her finger at any given time. You could accurately describe her as an eternal ingenue. She is always complaining about meeting men, yet she hardly goes a day without a “date”, i.e. some man willing to do her a favor for the reward of a three minute makeout. But no sex. Never sex! Oh no, there is hardly a man good enough for THAT prize. One time, a bread pudding excuse of a man who had been on three dry dates with her over the course of six months drove an hour and a half from out of town to drive her to an appointment she had only a few blocks from where she lived. She didn’t want to spend the money on a cab. Naturally, when she called him she framed it as a “chance for me and you to get together and hang”. And just as naturally, he bit down on that stinky bait. I bet he furiously masturbated on the drive over with thoughts of what he fantasized would happen.

Yes, there really are girls like this, and yes there really are… ahem… “men” who fall for the shit girls like this pull.

If it isn’t obvious by now, this girl is the succubus that strikes fear, loathing and lust in the hearts of betas everywhere. She is your worst nightmare; the epitome of every self-entitled pedestaled princess bitch we talk about here at this exclusive Chateau. When Satan made the mold for the quintessential cockteasing attention whore, she poured out.

And yet I like her. She’s a lot of fun to be around. I dig her style. Since I’m not interested in her as a potential lover, her games have no effect on me. Her manipulations of men who chase after her is something I can observe from a third party distance, with raised eyebrow and gleeful smirk. She knows this, and of course it drives her to distraction around me. I may be the only man in her life, besides her long term ex-boyfriend, who calls her bluff and swats aside her shit tests. Thus, I have earned her trust and confidence.

While my instinctual sympathies lie with her smitten suckers suitors, I don’t blame her for playing them like puppets. If I were in her shoes, I would take advantage of those needy losers, too. I don’t care how cute a girl is, if she asks you to do some outrageous favor for her — like driving an hour and a half to chauffeur her to an appointment just because she asked — for no sex in return, you are a chump.

A mark.

A dupe.

A fool.

A beta.

In this day and age, it is amazing there are so many men who think that supplication is the magic key to her secret garden. The Chateau has been in business for over three years, and yet the tidal wave of betas who fail at the most elementary concepts of female sexual psychology continues rolling on, crushing hopes and dreams and blue balls like so many beachfront tiki bars.

So one day, Queen of the Cockteases asks me a question. She was hanging on my arm, partly drunk.

“I keep pushing men away. I find them, and go out with them, and then they disappear! Seriously, real question. What am I doing wrong?”

“I haven’t noticed any men disappearing. Didn’t some dude just buy you tickets to a play and invite you to his shore house?”

“Oh, that. Yeah, but that’s not something. I mean the guys I like.”

“Poor bastard.”

“Are you going to help me? I want so bad to be your friend. We can be good friends if you just try with me.”

“You’re a basketcase after a few Shirley Temples.” For a moment, I thought about going hardcore on her ego and edifying her with the lessons gleaned from evo psych and game, but I was tired and not in the mood to talk much. Plus, I doubted it would register. I kept it light instead. “Stop going up to men. Let them come to you.”

“Why? If I like a guy I want to meet him.”

“Yeah, that’s great, but guys like to chase. If you approach them first, they will downgrade you. We give more value to girls who play a little coy.”

“And if he doesn’t approach me?”

“Suck it up. You can’t have every man in the world. Look, most likely you are approaching the top guys, the ones you think are the best. A guy like that has options. All he sees is a chick who has just showed she really likes him, which means sex is only a few drinks away. But you’re a major cocktease, so when they realize that it isn’t happening, they bolt.”

“Hey, I’m not that kind of girl.”

“We all know that. But they don’t. If a guy comes up to you first, he’s more likely to stick around putting up with your bullshit. But then you have the problem of wanting guys to chase you, but only respecting guys who don’t. That’s why you go up to them first and flirt like crazy. If the guy approaches you, you think he’s not worthy.”

“What’s that supposed to mean?”

“It means you only get horny for guys you have to chase. You’re the classic example of a girl who wants what she can’t have.”

“That’s not true. I don’t waste my time with guys who don’t like me.”

“I can tell you really need an asshole in your life.”

Communication on the subject was done by that point. On certain matters, a woman’s brain simply can’t process in any internally logical way the implications of the discussion. Her biosocial female imperative is one of those matters. Try it some time. Explain to a girl why she behaves the way she does with men and watch as her eyes glaze over with incomprehension or she lashes out in fury at you for rattling the peace of her inner hamster sanctum. You can get girls to nod in agreement with you, as long as you don’t make them the subject of your elucidation. Girls have a habit of perceiving conversations about abstractions personally, and won’t abide finger pointing in their direction. The solution is to explain human social dynamics in terms that will spare her ego.

A cocktease is an older term for an attention whore. They are one and the same psychologically; only the details of execution differ. The cocktease’s ideal man would be someone she approaches first, but who doesn’t flirt back. He just stands there being amused by her antics, making her work harder and harder for his attention, until his value is outsized in her mind. One step forward, two steps back, is his motto for dealing with cockteases. And then when the time is ripe, he pushes hard for the close, leaving her little head space to rationalize yet another coquettish escape.

Unfortunately, the Western world is full of chauffeuring betas pumping princess egos the land over. For men in the know, like you and me and hopefully the rest of the readers of this site, this means the girls we meet have been pre-primed to act like selfish, self-loving brats. These special snowflakes and their boot-licking beta enablers both are our insufferable foes. Chastise the one and you must chastise the other. Nothing of worth operates in a vacuum.





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  1. This post made me cringe a bit as I remember a time or two that I’ve been the chump who would go out of my way to drive a girl somewhere. “You’re so sweet!” would be my reward.

    ~Cringe~

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  2. There is a reknown cocktease among my social circle. She’s incredibly hot, possibly the hottest girl around, but piercing the attention-whoring veil has proved difficult.

    Time and time again she greets me all flirtily at a party, kissing me on the cheek and hanging on me, only to be pushed off and introduced to a girl by my side. The slight look of disappointment on her face afterward is priceless, reminder after reminder that I’m not going to play her stupid games and will instead leverage her to my own benefit.

    Seeing the dour expression on her face when she realizes she’s being used as an previously unwitting pivot almost makes up for not fucking her.

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  3. Once again, we see that women suffer the most under feminism.

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  4. Wait . . . was I supposed to have started my post by saying “First!”?

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  5. Made YOU cringe? This was my life, for a long, LONG time. Still is, in some ways (my daughters can still pretty much have their way with me) but progress is being made. Slowly. A girl did say “you’re so sweet” to me the other day. At least I recognize that as a bad thing now.

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  6. Disturbing the inner hamster’s peace is one thing. I’ve noticed that girls don’t ask advice like men do…you know to learn something. Most girls will advice shop around her problems until she finds the one person with an opinion that matches exactly what she wants to hear.

    I think the appeal of facebook also appeals to the tease as it allows them to have an almost unlimited number of beta applicants to supply her with consoling, compliments, and other chaste supplications. The market value for cooter is never zero and there’s always another chump willing to drive 1.5 hours to help a girl wipe her dog’s butt after doggy yoga.

    Practical advice to be gleaned from this post? It seems that teases of this variety will never be seduced by guys she doesn’t preselect, so don’t try, betas. If you are approached by a flirty tease, then you at least know you’re preselected.

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  7. Riff here I thought you were a born alpha….

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  8. on November 9, 2010 at 2:58 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

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  9. on November 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

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  10. Cocktease Asks “What Am I Doing Wrong?”

    November 9, 2010 by Chateau

    I have this friend, a girl, who is a total attention whore. Fittingly, she would glow with pride at being called that. As a cute, young single girl without brat baggage and of slender proportions and flirtatious disposition, she usually has some beta or two wrapped around her finger at any given time.

    braveau, Chateau – for finally calling out that kassyk.
    darn her.

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  11. on November 9, 2010 at 3:14 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

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  12. on November 9, 2010 at 3:15 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

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  13. From: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-11-03/fat-studies-colleges-hot-new-course/

    “The Fat Studies movement is really important and valuable for smaller people to participate in,” says Linda Bacon, a professor at City College of San Francisco

    hahaha

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  14. on November 9, 2010 at 3:16 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    GIRL: Do you think I’m a 9?

    ME: It’s complicated. Let me do the math for you. lzozllz

    http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/most-chix-who-r-3s-think-they-are-9s-because-now-and-then-an-alpha-gets-drunk-and-bored-and-bangs-the-shit-out-of-them-lzozllzlzlzlzlzlzl/

    this is going on the back cover of my upcoming book:

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    most 3s think they are 9s because now and then an alpha gets drunk and bored and bangs the shit out of them lzozllzlzlzlzlzlzl

    she sounds like a 2 who got banged by 7 drunk alphas so she reasons that 2 + 7 = 9.” –bestsest quotas ever from da r!! lozllzozlzzl

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/best-reader-comments/

    then later on they think they are 9s because they count 1
    2
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    cats

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  15. Which is worse? A cocktease, or an honest slut?

    [Editor: False dichotomy. A slut can be a cocktease with betas.]

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  16. on November 9, 2010 at 3:29 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    Your shit is played out, GBFM.

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  17. on November 9, 2010 at 3:31 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    “Dr. Grzlickson

    Your shit is played out, GBFM.”

    lzoozzlz yah you sucka on my long hard cocka so long and hard that you’re bored now zlzozllzolz

    cool!

    lotsa cocka for da new ladies.

    see ya!!!

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  18. A cocktease is the worst.

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  19. Walk away. It’s better to be alone than with a woman who is disrespecting you or playing you.

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  20. Roissy, where in the fuck were you when I was 21?

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  21. on November 9, 2010 at 3:39 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

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  22. That exactly describes one of my female acquaintances (not friends, we don’t hang out too often). She is very pretty with a smoking hot body, probably a 9, and occasionally works as a model (personality-wise she is quite dull and childish). Needless to say, she is always surrounded by drooling men.

    Her Facebook profile is full of her semi-nude pictures, all of which have at least 20 likes and a ton of comments like “you’re so beautiful!”. Half of those are from men who would like to bang her but never will. Her statuses are always about dumping someone or not being able to find a worthy man or such, which also get a ton of attention like “single now? When do I get a drink with you?”.

    And her Facebook quote reads:
    “SINGLE! But never available!!!”

    Having known her since high school days (when I had no game), I’m thinking of dropping some negs on her when we next meet, just for effect 😉

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  23. I spent so much time being a good Beta chump, it humiliates me to remember.

    Fuck.

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  24. A close friend in Korea, an airline stewardess, and an ex-lover, is a total cocktease. A terrible woman to a beta.

    An alpha can win her respect. barely.

    Lot of work, at any age.

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  25. Much to my chagrin, I made similar mistakes in my youth. Not quite 1 1/2 hour drives, but more frequent smaller favors for various and sundry who would never give me time of day otherwise.

    Problem was the same types were stilling pulling that shit well into their 30s, at which point I concluded that this wasn’t worth it anymore.

    I’m glad I finally found someone who was worth it, but still bitter about how long it took.

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  26. on November 9, 2010 at 3:56 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    hey man we were all beta chumps now and them zlozlzlzlolzlzlzl

    i plauyed every rolse along the way lzozlzlz

    and where i grew up in a small town midewetsts being a beta chump gotya laid a lot too!!

    times wer eidfferent and beta wans’t so beta but just what a guy did and the girls didn;t slut and whore aorund and ufucka nd suck well nowehre as much as they do now!!!!

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    so yes it all made snese being a nice guy lotsa nice guys got alid

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  27. Point # 1:
    “I don’t care how cute a girl is, if she asks you to do some outrageous favor for her — like driving an hour and a half to chauffeur her to an appointment just because she asked — for no sex in return, you are a chump.
    A mark.
    A dupe.
    A fool.
    A beta.”

    I agree with this cause it is outrages—and any outrages proposition from either sex is to be disregarded. BUT……… for those who are looking to truly finding someone for a LTR you need to follow the this rule:
    ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE THAT WAIT……..
    You all are always saying how you want a GOOD GIRL NOT A SLUT, then if she makes you wait SHE’S A GOOD GIRL!!!!!!
    You can’t have everything. She’ll be your slut if you WAIT!!

    Point # 2:
    “Hey, I’m not that kind of girl.”
    “We all know that. But they don’t. If a guy comes up to you first, he’s more likely to stick around putting up with your bullshit. But then you have the problem of wanting guys to chase you, but only respecting guys who don’t. That’s why you go up to them first and flirt like crazy. If the guy approaches you, you think he’s not worthy.”

    Weird….there is a contradiction here. If she wants guys to chase her, why is she approaching them? If a guy wants you HE WILL COME AND GET YOU ….how stupid can you get! Just for that logic alone, she deserves to have NO one.

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  28. Cocktease and attention whore are both current terms.

    They are roughly synonymous; a cocktease devotes more time to fewer targets. An attention whore goes after bigger audiences, and is not as explicitly sexual in her conduct, just attention seeking. The girl in question is definitely a cocktease.

    A screening tactic: Make her move to a different part of the venue with you. If you’ve talked to a girl for 15 minutes, and she refuses to say, join you at the pool tables, she’s probably a tease. The only way to win with them is to not lose. Make your seduction forceful and abbreviated. Bail when progress halts. Or simply spot them and walk.

    With teases, circumstance is essential. Involuntary isolation – when fate has placed you and her in seclusion – is your greatest aid. Being the *best* option is not good enough; to most ensure success, you must be the *only* option.

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  29. @Paladin – do it! Meet up at a bar and use her to talk to new girls. She deserves to be used and mistreated.

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  30. on November 9, 2010 at 3:59 pm Gunslingergregi

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    http://minx.cc/?post=308049

    Good post cr it is always nice to get inside the minds of chicks while at same time owning that ass.

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  31. I gotta give gaybooksformen GBFM credit

    she clears this place out faster than Obsid-ian

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  32. Hey, a key point slipped by that no one noticed.

    She is always complaining about meeting men, yet she hardly goes a day without a “date”, i.e. some man willing to do her a favor for the reward of a three minute makeout. But no sex. Never sex! Oh no, there is hardly a man good enough for THAT prize.

    If you are good at heating up girls, getting to the makeout stage is most of the battle. Dating virgins is a good way to learn how to make first base as hot as you need to. A valuable technique to have, if you’ve got it she won’t notice that the three minutes have passed, or thirty for that matter.

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  33. Until enlightenment through Game, many of us were beta chumps, pathetic lickspittles for even a withering and derisive glance of attention from an attractive vagina support system.

    Joyfully, we have learned important lessons and it’s our moral duty to spread the message of Game to the vast herds of beta chumps still shambling our streets like horny zombies.

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  34. Please guys, beta qualities are great! If you were once beta, always a beta. SOOOO? It’s great, cause you can always pull up that tool if and when you need to. It’s all about balance alpha and beta. My SWEEEEEET guy is BOTH I LOOOVE him! hehe!!

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  35. polymathblogger

    Hey, a key point slipped by that no one noticed.

    She is always complaining about meeting men, yet she hardly goes a day without a “date”,

    If you are good at heating up girls, getting to the makeout stage is most of the battle.

    now that Lost is over, many guys had access to kassy, but that all ends when Dancing With The Stars starts again.

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  36. on November 9, 2010 at 4:17 pm Gunslingergregi

    What it has been like 2 weeks. Slow down.

    he he he

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  37. Gun,

    hehehe!! I am over excited when I talk about him!! lol!!

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  38. Actually longer…not telling.

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  39. damn, that KK is all about teh Lost tv show.

    I think she needs Gman to swoop in with some binks and roll her to some culture.

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  40. Which is worse? A cocktease, or an honest slut?

    [Editor: False dichotomy. A slut can be a cocktease with betas.]

    fair point.

    will rephrase to make clearer

    Which is worse,

    (a) a cocktease who leads men to believe she will put out, but never puts out (chaste but dishonest)

    or

    (b) a slut who is up-front about who she will and will not put out with. (promiscuous but honest)

    [Editor: The cocktease, because sex > no sex. After all, it’s not like we’re marrying the honest slut. Well, those men with options, at any rate. Hehheh.]

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  41. GPS pussy map

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  42. The Truth – “Riff, here I thought you were a born alpha….”

    I dare venture to guess that no one who reads (or writes) this blog is a born alpha. It’s the recognizing of various things we’ve all done wrong that makes this place so much fun to read. If a guy has never made any of our common mistakes, he’d probably find all of this very tedious. That’s my theory, at least.

    My other theory is that a born alpha has one of two destinies, neither of which is good.

    Destiny A is the natural asshole alpha. This guy naturally attracts certain girls when he’s young, and probably even nabs a few when he’s older, but as an asshole, his professional and social careers are probably doomed. The guy who’ll “do anything” is great when he’s 19. Not so great when he’s 35. The guy who used to get the girls I couldn’t, is now the guy who has the Sunday shift cleaning out the clogged sewer line at my house.

    Destiny B is the Big Man on Campus alpha. This would seemingly be great, but these guys invariably get some Beta pounded into them as they get older. It’s interesting that every “guy who played quarterback” that I’ve ever known is now either a complete loser, or completely domesticated. I think this is because this guy never understood intellectually *why* he was alpha, so he didn’t know how to keep his status when situations would change (no longer good looking, no longer young and strong, no longer high status quarterback type, etc.)

    I think the best situation is to have some natural alpha, but not so much that you aren’t forced to still observe others as well as learn from your own mistakes. That’s the road to long lasting success.

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  43. on November 9, 2010 at 4:50 pm Gunslingergregi

    Give me the honest chick whatever she does.

    Except there isn’t one lol

    It is insane being on the inside and having the details.

    Thinking god dam you feel bad for the dudes not in the loop on what the fuck there bitch is really thinking.

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  44. Sometimes there are girls that are naturally fun and flirty not meaning to tease your sensitive cock. So, if your cock is teased it may not be her fault. It may be your wishful thinking of your cock. Your S E N S I T I V E cock needs to be tamed!!! lol!!!

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  45. and look GBFM polluting the comment space, I use to think he was witty till I realized he says the same shit over and over.
    Get some originality bud…
    Lolz

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  46. With cock teases, ramp up the sexual aggression. With them it’s all about control. There’s nothing they love more than a dominant guy who can take control away from them. I’m not saying physically restrain her if she tries to pull away or anything, I mean more like rough play, like grabbing hair and whispering dirty things in her ear, pushing her up against a wall and things like that. If she’s not with it, then at least she knows that you’re not the beta who’s going to sit there with his shriveled little balls in hand and do nothing.

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  47. on November 9, 2010 at 5:04 pm Good Luck Chuck

    I am friends with a 40 year old who is just like this.

    The fact that she can get 2 new dates per week off the internet makes her believe she’s still entitled to marry a 45 year old guy with a private jet.

    She was a fuck buddy until I banged her best friend one night when she pissed me off. Now she’s a drinking buddy who I have trained not to cock block me, so she’s a pretty good pivot. I treat her like I treat my bratty little nieces, and she loves me for it. It just works.

    Moral of the story- with the way society is structured your friend is going to end up just like my friend- washed up yet oblivious to her negligible sexual market value.

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  48. You are walking into a trap. She has a personality disorder. It’s like trying to convince the schizophrenic that the chicken wing on her plate isn’t covered in maggots.

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  49. on November 9, 2010 at 5:22 pm Artful Dodger

    I fell for a girl like the one you described above my sophomore year of college. She always said: “I never get approached by the guys I want to get approached by.” I used to always wonder who these “guys” were because she was beautiful and certainly had a number of objectively high quality men approaching her on a daily basis.

    If these types of girls only get turned on by guys who don’t want them, then how do they ever get married? Are they hopeless?

    @ psycho – I do agree that many of these types of girls have personality disorders. In hindsight, I believe that my college ingenue was truly a sociopath.

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  50. Haha GBFM must have some sort of mental retardation which make him repeat himself over and over .

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  51. Perhaps this is an “obvious” question, but how does one go about learning game? Specifically, day-game. I’ve seen dozens of askmen.com articles and a lot of sites that blatantly try to hawk crappy e-books at you. Even this site only hints at elements of game, rather than being geared around developing it (and that’s not Roissy’s goal, obv).

    Recommended resources?

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  52. I think the trick you’re missing is that the teaser saying why can’t I meet men I like is looking for ego reinforcement. Tyra Banks pulled the same thing in an interview in GQ once and the interviewer pretty much said it’s part of her allure, it could be you she’s looking for. Again, most chicks don’t care about your advice unless it reinforces what they want to hear (Brad Pitt would love to date you and the guy you’re crushing on is a fool who will come around as long as you keep doing whatever it is you are doing).

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  53. Roissy, im sure you gonna appreciate this:

    http://lolsnaps.com/?media_id=487&cat_type=all&order_type=latest&pagenum=1

    What’s that game called?

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  54. on November 9, 2010 at 5:43 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””’what
    Sometimes there are girls that are naturally fun and flirty not meaning to tease your sensitive cock. So, if your cock is teased it may not be her fault. It may be your wishful thinking of your cock. Your S E N S I T I V E cock needs to be tamed!!! lol!!!
    ”””’

    My cock has callouses.

    he he he

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  55. Off topic, but you all will love this, I’m still not sure wether it is a good or a bad thing (my thoughts at the end):

    http://www.elmundo.es/accesible/elmundo/2010/11/09/espana/1289322846.html

    (In Spanish, as this is from Spain; translation follows):

    Fathers will be held accountable for their children even if they have no relationship with them.

    Efe @ 09-11-2010 18:20

    Santander.- A man will have to compensate a minor for being stabbed by his son, despite the son neither living with him nor having any personal relationship of any sort.

    Being separated and having no relationship with one’s progeny does not exempt a father from the corresponding civic responsibility for them breaking the law or damaging other people, according to a sentence by the Cantabrian Court.

    The court used this criteria to dismiss an appeal by a father who was ordered to pay together with his ex-wife a compensation of 60,000 Euros to a minor who was stabbed by his son, then a minor, in a night club.

    The father had claimed in his appeal that he was separated and had no relationship with his son, so he could not be held responsible for his actions.

    “Not living together or lacking a relationship cannot be an argument to justify not fulfilling the tasks or obligations of the family jurisdiction, as it would put the whole burden on the other parent (TR: They _specifically_ used the female form “progenitora” here), who did or tried to fulfill those obligations, such as providing lodging for, feeding, and educating the minor,” the Court explains.

    The sentence further explains that the responsibility of the parents “includes too the duties of education, moral guidance, and teaching tolerance and respect towards the individual rights and properties of others.”

    The Law of Responsibility for Minors, the court insists, imposes on the parents not just the duty of guarding their children and being in their company, but also giving them “a complete education.”

    According to the sentence, it would be “completely unfair” that someone who showed “nil or very limited involvement” in the education of the minor would see “such neglect rewarded with an exemption of such civic responsibilities resulting from the actions of their son.”

    In this case a minor was judged for stabbing another minor in a nightclub with a knife, at the town of Suances, and giving him a wound that took eleven months to heal, one of them spent in hospital.

    — End translation.

    Good reading: Now women can’t completely cut off the fathers because they have a responsibility towards the education and well-being of the minor (as the law says).

    Bad reading: Now on top of everything that happens on a divorce, a man will be held responsible even if the woman goes to great lengths to make sure he never sees the kids again.

    Good times.

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  56. on November 9, 2010 at 6:04 pm Caesar Augustus

    Riff Dog – Good analysis on the born alpha guys. They peak early on in life and then fall apart often cuz they never understood what being alpha was about conceptually.

    Mukluk – Alex Coulson and Paul Janka are PUAs who do day game. They sell stuff but they have a lot of content up on youtube for free as well. Keep in mind though these guys are pretty good looking. While it takes more than just good looks to get ahead don’t underestimate how much of the battle is won by just being good looking.

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  57. I don’t get it. Why would you hang out with a girl you’re not fucking?

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  58. on November 9, 2010 at 6:21 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lozlzoozlzlzoz

    i rpeeat myself because the past is prologue and tehre isn nothing new under the sun zlozlzozlzzolozolz

    homer rpeates himslef and so does virgil and dante and that is why the fanboys and feminists get bored and go off to asscok lzozlzlzoz

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  59. this is indicative of histrionic personality disorder, no? same goes with the eternal ingenue in my opinion.

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  60. Gun,

    ewewew!!yuck! haha!!

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  61. I don’t get it. Why would you hang out with a girl you’re not fucking?

    Because pre-selection is King.

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  62. So when women complain that men want girls who put out but only respect those that don’t, the response is that girls want men to chase them but only respect those that don’t.

    SilverFox,

    I think there are a few demographic factors going on. The western US is a lot more likely to have more Hispanic immigrants (legal and illegal) than the rest of the country, and those are going to be mostly men. It would be enough of an effect to reverse the usual 51% female/49% male ratio in society. After all, naively there’s a pussy surplus since women live several years longer.

    I dont think those factors (a difference of a few percent) would have nearly the effect of 65-35 ratios at some colleges, but then again San Jose has been called Man Jose.

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  63. That is the question, aragorn.

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  64. Beauty tends to corrupt. Absolute beauty …

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  65. “Try it some time. Explain to a girl why she behaves the way she does with men and watch as her eyes glaze over with incomprehension or she lashes out in fury at you for rattling the peace of her inner hamster sanctum”

    Christ that’s so fucking true.

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  66. I once had an FB, amazing hottie, great lay, perfect body, pretty face, who was a complete cunt to betas: she specialized in tormenting/enslaving lower beta co-workers, especially the sad-sack married ones who would do anything for her attention, knowing full well it would result in zero lovin’. She pulled the Lucy-with-the-football trick countless times, getting favors of all sorts, professional and personal, for zilch in return … and the betas never even complained. She was an expert.

    With alphas, however, she was completely different: sexy, and perfectly happy to put out. With a top alpha like yours truly she could even be sorta committed (not that I wanted that), and a real pleasure to be around in a post-modern seductress manner. Just get her on her knees and she was happy and easy to be around.

    Lesson here being that the line between bitch, cocktease, and slut is flexible since, as we know, women’s whole concept of morality is flexible and entirely situational. They lack any objective sense of right v. wrong. And they never, ever feel bad about abusing betas.

    But we knew that already …

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  67. “My SWEEEEEET guy is BOTH I LOOOVE him! hehe!!”

    @What

    Women that are in so in looove with their guys ALWAYS call them “sweet”. What a lucky man!

    /sarcasm

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  68. on November 9, 2010 at 7:52 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””””[Editor: The cocktease, because sex > no sex. After all, it’s not like we’re marrying the honest slut. Well, those men with options, at any rate. Hehheh.]”””””””””’

    Some guys keep their options open whatever the case may be.

    he he he

    ””””A cocktease is an older term for an attention whore. They are one and the same psychologically; only the details of execution differ. The cocktease’s ideal man would be someone she approaches first, but who doesn’t flirt back. He just stands there being amused by her antics, making her work harder and harder for his attention, until his value is outsized in her mind. One step forward, two steps back, is his motto for dealing with cockteases. And then when the time is ripe, he pushes hard for the close, leaving her little head space to rationalize yet another coquettish escape.””””

    That is probably the secret.

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  69. Evil Alpha,

    I call him other names toooo!! alll sorts of names!! hahaha! lalalala!!

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  70. You should at least fuck her, just to see what she is like sexually.

    Cockteases need to be dominated sexually at some point in their lives, or they will never change.

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  71. Caesar Augustus: Thanks. I’ve been watching Janka videos; he’s a little over-the-top, but I guess that works if you’re looking strictly for pump-n-dumps as he is. I’ll check out Coulson.

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  72. @Schmoe

    From: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-11-03/fat-studies-colleges-hot-new-course/

    “The Fat Studies movement is really important and valuable for smaller people to participate in,” says Linda Bacon, a professor at City College of San Francisco”

    Thanks for the link. What career does this, just as expensive as the rest, course prepare one for? College students really don’t seem to get that they are or will be, paying for something and should get something back for that that is useful in later life.

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  73. Cockteases should be gang raped

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  74. Stud Report

    Went for a swim @ 7pm at the Houston St YMCA in Soho to soothe my aching back.

    Big Surprise – Two 10 Russian Models are in the pool.

    These chicks were pure 10s. Seeing their bodies in bikinis was an other worldly experience: skinny, perfect asses, great tight asses, immacualte cheekbones, delicious gaps b/w pussy / legs.

    Go to E Euro…dont settle for <10.

    They smiled a few times asked me where the sauna was. They had just bought swim caps and gor the hand out towels. They will be back. I msiled & played it cool, They will be in Whole Foods above this place and I will swoop in during lunch or coffee.

    Guess what: Young models are broke & hot YMCAs not clubs & $500 bottle service !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  75. “”Explain to a girl why she behaves the way she does with men and watch as her eyes glaze over with incomprehension or she lashes out in fury at you for rattling the peace of her inner hamster sanctum.””

    – speechless

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  76. Riff Dog: “Destiny A is the natural asshole alpha…as an asshole, his professional and social careers are probably doomed…”

    I probably qualify; I’ve been a total bastard my entire life. Most of this crap is easy for me, once I realized, oh yeah, “just be yourself” actually does work in my case. I also own my own business, and if my luck holds out, I’ll die embarrassingly rich. Unquestionably, I have a hard time in large organizations, but the thing us, we assholes seem to do really well outside of them. That’s not to say I haven’t been a beta pussy a lot of the time, but I’m just pointing out that natural assholes won’t always end up as fry cooks.

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  77. Since studying game and starting to read your blog nearly a year ago, I have discussed this material with many women. It is not true that they are incapable of understanding it. In fact, I have secured agreement in principle from 100% of the women I’ve talked to about it.

    The key is in phrasing. “You need an uncaring asshole” is going to provoke anger. “You just don’t want some needy pussy” is going to meet with agreement.

    By carefully escalating the theory, just like you gradually escalate kino with a shy girl, I have eventually convinced numerous women to agree that what they really want to submit to a stronger man. My current girl is also very self-aware in this respect, and it makes honesty and harmony both possible at the same time.

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  78. on November 10, 2010 at 12:35 am almost 40 year old virgin

    Cockteases, eh?

    Sorry “alphas” but they´re basically the female version of you PUA “commitment teases”. No wonder Roissy likes hanging out with her. Birds of a feather and all that.

    “Inner Hamster sanctum” – priceless! Made me actually LOL!

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  79. These kind of women have their uses. Some of them are smart enough to provide titilating conversation, and most of them smell pretty good with or without their panties on.
    When needed, massive doses of booze, ketamine, and mild strangulation can inspire deep truth-telling – even when they are innocent. Just like me…
    With these chicks, try this experiment; Ask nicely, “Is 200 dollars about right for a blowjob?”
    Do not worry about offending them with this sort of dialogue. They have been working on the correct number in their heads for a long before you brought it up. At any rate, making an offer clears the air. It lets them know you are OK with their deepest impulses.

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  80. Im sorry but how do you Uberbeta’s fall for shit tests? Females who ask you for favors WANT to hear you say no.

    Lets draw the line here, there is a difference between the females you are friends with and the females who you want to fuck. If you can’t make that distinction your fucked.

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  81. That map posted by Silver Fox is interesting:

    Nationally, men tend to vote Republican and women tend to vote Democrat:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/election2010/exit.shtml?state=US&jurisdiction=0&race=H&tag=contentBody;electionCenterHome

    But the West Coast tilts heavily Democrat, despite tilting heavily male.

    Do men in California and Seattle vote like women? Is this a map of the beta population?

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  82. Two uggos say: Don’t worry, your 30s are when you’re grown up!

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/11/09/generation.thrisis/index.html?hpt=C2

    Fuckin’ cunts.

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  83. will the real Roissy please stand up? After the first two sentences I knew this was not written by the prince of darkness.

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  84. >Perhaps this is an “obvious” question, but how does one go about learning [day] game?

    Turn off your computer and go work on it

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  85. You summed this up perfectly!

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  86. They’re fun, makes for an interesting game!

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  87. “I think the trick you’re missing is that the teaser saying why can’t I meet men I like is looking for ego reinforcement. ”

    These types of girls usually have serious daddy issues. As Roissy pointed out, they’re looking for a nonexistent situation.

    OT: Is the culture finally turning?

    “Allen will return to ABC (where his successful series Home Improvement ran for eight seasons) for the new sitcom Man Up.

    The show is described as a man “fighting for his manhood in a world of women.” That’s not a lot of information, but already Tim Allen seems perfect for the role.”

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  88. “The Fat Studies movement is really important and valuable for smaller people to participate in,” says Linda Bacon, a professor at City College of San Francisco”
    ———————

    Ironic that the professor of that course is named BACON

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  89. …And this is why I’m telling men that I won’t sleep with them at all unless they marry me. That way, I can 1) tell if they’re prone to discussions like this, and if they are, 2) I can tell them to get over it, and if they can’t and 3)leave, then it won’t be a big deal, and it 4)won’t be my fault because I didn’t “lead them on”.

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  90. on November 10, 2010 at 8:13 am Vincent Ignatius

    Even for a man with game, these girls usually aren’t worth the effort; there will always be a girl easier to bed and just as cute.

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  91. I am a beta who is attracted to these type of wpmen. I don’t mind being used by them because I enjoy their company. They are fun to be with.

    Yes I have given them rides. The most extreme example would be a girl who would have me pick her up from one night stands she met at the club. Sometimes she would get in my car and say something like “he was so good”. I would get kind of jealous but a part of me was excited for her..that the object of my desire got sexual pleasure. The other extreme example was a girl who had me drive her to the abortion clinic. I remember her telling me what a good friend I was.

    None of these young ladies had sex with me (even if they had plenty of sex). Here’s the thing, I would rather take a woman out to dinner who I am attracted to and who has a fun personality than have sex with some boring, frumpy girl with no “coktease” appeal. I would not even give a girl like that a ride around the block much less across town.

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  92. youve got to be a fucking troll

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  93. “It means you only get horny for guys you have to chase. You’re the classic example of a girl who wants what she can’t have.”

    Doesn’t that apply to 99% of people? Even for men? The difference is men can rationalize this and form realistic strategies to deal with it. The majority of women can’t. Some are lucky to find higher betas and settle for them but most I’ve seen they stumble thru life till they past their sell-by date and continue to blame ‘bad men’ for their demise. I can confidently say most single women above the age of 30 falls into that category actually.

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  94. @Vincent Ignatius

    “Even for a man with game, these girls usually aren’t worth the effort; there will always be a girl easier to bed and just as cute.”

    I have to agree with this. My experience is that attention-whores aren’t that great in bed, despite outward appearances of hotness and strong interest in sex. Although there has been an exception or two…

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  95. @Jay Fink

    Yes I have given them rides. The most extreme example would be a girl who would have me pick her up from one night stands she met at the club. Sometimes she would get in my car and say something like “he was so good”. I would get kind of jealous but a part of me was excited for her..that the object of my desire got sexual pleasure. The other extreme example was a girl who had me drive her to the abortion clinic. I remember her telling me what a good friend I was.

    None of these young ladies had sex with me (even if they had plenty of sex). Here’s the thing, I would rather take a woman out to dinner who I am attracted to and who has a fun personality than have sex with some boring, frumpy girl with no “coktease” appeal. I would not even give a girl like that a ride around the block much less across town.

    How about getting some game and sleeping with a few of these women?

    It’s, um, a damn sight more rewarding.

    What you’re doing now is more pathetic than anything else. About as unmanly as it’s possible to be.

    You might as well be a 12-year-old girl.

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  96. Some betas may be happy to be payed:You get to hang out with a beautiful girl(if she’s Asian,so much the better)–her selfishnes makes her all the more attractive–do things for her(Aww,you’re so sweet! my little hero!) and if very lucky get some making out–which should prime the beta for a vigorous bout of self-abuse later,back at the overheated match box he calls home! Being denied orgasm is a huge theme in porn. (La belle sans merci)

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  97. “It means you only get horny for guys you have to chase. You’re the classic example of a girl who wants what she can’t have.”

    “Doesn’t that apply to 99% of people? Even for men”

    @ Captain

    Men chase because they ARE horny, not to get horny. Nice legs, tits and ass are the catalyst for male arousal, not “chasing”.

    Exactly what do you captain?

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  98. “You can get girls to nod in agreement with you, as long as you don’t make them the subject of your elucidation.”

    Haha, excellent observation. Point at other girls in the bar and whip out some pseudo-psychology and she’ll be lapping it up like candy. Use it on her directly, though…

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  99. Reading this, all I could think of is how our esteemed host is playing the role of Beta Orbiter to a Horrid Cunt, and doesn’t even have the balls to call her out on her bullshit (instead, using his own rationalisation hamster to justify why he shouldn’t shit on her ego).

    Respect level just went way down bro.

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  100. @ Riff Dog:

    Spot on observations about the destinies of Alpha types A and B.

    I have known many ex-super-alphas, including a couple of retired big NFL players. They have hot wives in many cases but are UNBELIEVABLY beta, and let the wife control everything. The only reason they don’t get dumped/cheated on by their wives are because they are rich and still have very high social status among men. The ‘Leader of Men’ meme still seems to garner them respect from women despite their beta behaviors at home.

    The other type of guy I know a lot of is the former super player from high school. His luck was mainly in his good looks, with a bit of natural charm thrown in. Still gets lots of decent lays here and there with younger girls, but can’t hold together any long term relationships and has no money/shitty jobs. This type of guy will increasingly be seen as a sad joke the older he gets.

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  101. “Reading this, all I could think of is how our esteemed host is playing the role of Beta Orbiter to a Horrid Cunt.”

    @Johnny

    Have you never been friends with a stripper? Almost all female friends are horrid cunts…to other people. Beta Orbiting requires one to get less than you are giving out to said friend.

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  102. Roissy said: And yet I like her. She’s a lot of fun to be around. I dig her style. Since I’m not interested in her as a potential lover, her games have no effect on me. Her manipulations of men who chase after her is something I can observe from a third party distance, with raised eyebrow and gleeful smirk. She knows this, and of course it drives her to distraction around me. I may be the only man in her life, besides her long term ex-boyfriend, who calls her bluff and swats aside her shit tests. Thus, I have earned her trust and confidence.

    This is the same way I feel around my guy friends that are complete assholes/players. They’re alot of fun to be around, have great style, can always be counted on to tell me the harsh truth, etc.,

    I’ve found that “players” make great friends, as long as you don’t make the mistake of having sex with them you’ll probably never regret making their acquaintance.

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  103. Yes I have given them rides. The most extreme example would be a girl who would have me pick her up from one night stands she met at the club.

    With that skill set, I hope to god you also have a natural pimp hand, because otherwise there’s a whole genre of porn made just for you.

    Self-test: imagine that you’re married to that girl. Worse or … better?

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  104. @glengarry One of those girls, while drunk, told me what a great guy I am and that if I asked her to marry her she would say yes. This made me so happy. But then the next day after she sobered up she said she wasn’t ready for a relatonship much less marriage. I basically offered to be a cuckold husband..not that I get off on the idea…but I liked her so much and enjoyed every second I was with her.

    So she soon met and got married to an alpha. She started cheating very soon after the marriage (and having his child)and he divorced her right away. I ended up settling for a live in relationship with a girl I am not realy into. I totally look back in fondness to the days I hung out with girls I liked, was attracted to, was excited by..even if they were using me. I was happier then.

    So a cuckold marriage might have worked out for the both of us, better than the choices we made.

    I am happy for you guys that have game, learn game etc. I don’t have it in me. I’m a lesser beta. I have a choice of LJBF relationshps with girls I like or romance with plain, fat, or ugly girls. I prefer the former..I honestly do.

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  105. “I am happy for you guys that have game, learn game etc. I don’t have it in me. I’m a lesser beta. ”

    Is that you, David Alexander?

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  106. “Girls have a habit of perceiving conversations about abstractions personally, and won’t abide finger pointing in their direction.”

    Understatement of the century.

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  107. @Vincent Ignatius: “”Even for a man with game, these girls usually aren’t worth the effort; there will always be a girl easier to bed and just as cute.””

    Here’s my own dilemma. Since learning game, when I encounter these kinds of women, I can be sucked into “over-gaming”.

    Walking away seems to go against my own personal nature.

    So when do you walk away without looking beta and without being shot down?

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  108. SDaedalus–

    sdaedalus

    Which is worse? A cocktease, or an honest slut?

    The question should be, for what purpose.

    The honest slut is often much better for casual sex.

    The cocktease, while not ideal, might be in the running for a LTR.

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  109. Jay Fink,

    Assuming you are for real, you are not a lesser Beta. You are below that, and I say that with no rancor, just with a desperate need to shake you up. I was a lesser Beta myself, and I would never have put up with the kind of crap you are talking about. If back then even I would have looked down on you with disgust, and I would have, you are something else.

    You are somewhere between Beta and Omega, I think, but maybe Omega in fact. Maybe the other folks can nail that down.

    Maybe that is a better classification then that, but what I mean by that is you think you are Beta because you are in the proximity of woman you believe are, what, 7-8+, but in reality, you are functionally asexual both in their eyes and in practice. What is worth, unlike Betas who delude themselves that they will get somewhere, that she will “appreciate me just the way I am”, you fully acknowledge that you will always be so woman’s poodle, even to the point of accepting her screwing other men while married to you.

    You are of course free to live your live as you wish, but I think you would be better off going the full Omega and find fulfilment in life from something other than women, or getting in the game in some capacity and get involved with women, even if they are only 6 or 7’s (depending on what your feasible reach is).

    I just don’t think you should fool yourself and think you are lesser Beta, because I don’t think it’s accurate.

    Peace.

    Seran

    The fact that you are

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  110. My apologies for the total lack of proof-reading on that last post. Hopefully my meaning is still clear.

    Seran

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  111. It’s getting bad up here in Canada with all the betas and their chump ways – chasing, kissing arse and pedestal praising antics have made women up here expect to have their boots licked.

    Often I am noticing these women are not responding to alpha tactics very well – they are so spoiled now that they literally have harems of men buying them shyt and spending money on them to the point that they don’t respond to non betas.

    Bear in mind, I am off my game bigtime at the moment.

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  112. @Jay Fink – you should be using those girls as the gateway to banging other women. Then when they see you bang the other women they might possibly put out.

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  113. on November 11, 2010 at 12:31 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””’Hot Karl
    It’s getting bad up here in Canada with all the betas and their chump ways – chasing, kissing arse and pedestal praising antics have made women up here expect to have their boots licked.
    ”””’

    Well I guess if online is any indication of real life yea it probably is pretty sick.

    So hey save your loot and go to tiajuana lol

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  114. @ Mukluk: Mystery Method
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    Great fucking post…. God did I cringe at the memories of the lower-beta I was.

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  115. Jay Fink, Assuming you are for real, you are not a lesser Beta.

    His behavior was classic beta, maybe a bit below that. Being strung along is normal chump behavior, quite common, unfortunately, among otherwise-normal younger guys who know better when they get older. However, his joyful acceptance of his servile station is lesser beta.

    The key difference between betas and o m e g a s is that betas can find their place in hot girls’ orbit, albeit at her outer rings. Meanwhile, o m e g a s are beyond the oort clout. They are too wierd or creepy for most girls.

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  116. @Gunslingergregi

    Canadian has achieved new heights in betatude, and it has truly ruined our women. Because then they become massively bitter when they do actually get gamed by an alpha. Problem is, as someone said earlier, gaming these women is too much effort.

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  117. Hell, even our fatties have attitude.

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  118. Riff Dog: “This post made me cringe a bit… ”

    Damn straight. Don’t waste your time with these; they just like the chase (being chased, that is). If she actually got down with the sex, she might have a guy.

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  119. bitter girl:

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  120. I have 2 female friends who use betas for free car rides, food, shelter, drinks, new clothes, everything. The funny thing is, they always seem to get extremely angry and livid whenever the beta finally realizes he’s been had and stops talking to them/doing favors. 1 of the chicks who’s your typical blonde ending up kicking her dog down the street and breaking her cellphone when one of her beta minions showed up, GF in hand, inviting her out with them to go see a movie.

    They’ll come to me complaining and using their delusional logic about how insensitive and mean the beta is being for ignoring them, or how much of a douchebag he is for getting a GF “behind her back”( Imho, ROFL). I always call them out, in a friendly way, and tell them that they’re basically female playas and are basically getting somethin’ for nothin'(they never, ever put out for the beta) and should be giving themselves a pat on the back for getting away with this for months but no matter, they get angry nonetheless and wish all kinds of evil and harm on the beta who slipped through the cracks.

    Funny yet disturbing, the inner hamster is a creature of it’s own man.

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  121. I have 2 female friends who use betas for free car rides, food, shelter, drinks, new clothes, everything.

    It’s possible to use girls like that to your own ends, mainly as social proof to get other girls. Blogger “Agnostic” had some good posts about this a while ago.

    Obviously you don’t want to buy them stuff or inconvenience yourself in the process.

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  122. @PA,

    The trick is to use these girls to impress others. They’re going to try their best to make sure you *don’t* seem attached to them romantically; they need you to seem to want them, while not wanting you.

    You need to reverse this – at least have them appear to be hangers-on or ex-gfs or something to that effect. It’s really hard to do, because they don’t play ball voluntarily. The best thing is to not act like you want them – but to act like you’re their best friend, and you don’t want them. Play cool.

    Then be on the watch to use them to get other women. If they’re hot, this is especially effective.

    I see betas like this at parties all the time. They’re easy to spot. The girls are usually too cute or hot for the likes of them, especially with their fawning behavior; and often, they’re trying to act too cool for their own good.

    The betas have the chance to alter the dynamic if they want to. I’ve seen that done. One friend two years ago was a closely orbiting beta who had a thing for this woman who just used him for everything. At one point, he just started displacing his attention – arriving somewhere and then leaving her to her own devices, chatting up other women.

    Within a month, he was sleeping with her. A month later, he broke up with her.

    Last I heard, he was bedding women left right and center.

    Betas, think about it.

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  123. It’s possible to use girls like that to your own ends, mainly as social proof to get other girls. Blogger “Agnostic” had some good posts about this a while ago.

    Obviously you don’t want to buy them stuff or inconvenience yourself in the process.

    Yes, I’ve been doing exactly this and it’s worked wonders for my social status. I still consider myself a greater beta though. I can shutdown shit-tests all day and get the ball in my court most of the time but keeping the girl interested for more than a few days still is a major hurdle for me and that’s where I fall short.

    Still learning and practicing, taking this one day at a time man.

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  124. “The key difference between betas and o m e g a s is that betas can find their place in hot girls’ orbit, albeit at her outer rings. Meanwhile, o m e g a s are beyond the oort clout. They are too wierd or creepy for most girls.”

    I stand corrected. Omegas should be reserved for those who are completely out of female orbit.

    Still, I think there should be something between Lesser Beta and Omega based on Jay Fink’s claimed attitude. He is not merely being “strung along”, but is fully aware that his is a chump, and is accepting of that to the point where he is accepting cuckold status with any future spouse.

    That seems worse than even Lesser Beta, but maybe its just that I am so repulsed by the idea and the attitude.

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  125. If you were a little tired of the cocktease’s behaviour and wanted to have some fun at her expense what could you say to her something like ….

    There is nothing wrong with you , you are an amazing charming woman and you deserve the best and you should settle for nothing but the best …. it’s the guys that are getting it wrong.

    This is an evil ploy , but she deserves it.

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  126. I know this type very well. She is a Keirsey Idealist type (NF) — writer, journalist, marketing chick probably.

    Any attempts at edifying them are a gigantic waste of time, Roissy, trust me. Although they are very flirty, they are also very conflicted sexually, quite repressed and frustrated. They can go for months and months until they luck into a suitable asshole who introduces a major jealousy plotline (like a gf or wife) and goes caveman on them. They are fucked up about sex and relationships.

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  127. I know this type very well. … Although they are very flirty, they are also very conflicted sexually, quite repressed and frustrated.

    I’ve often thought that the most flirty girls are that way not because they are sexually open, but because deep down they are sexually closed. They know they are safe from any real deep intimacy, so they can play this superficial intimacy.

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  128. Woops – I should say the cocktease type of flirt.

    Some flirts just have high libido.

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  129. Yikes, this sounds a lot like me. Except I don’t go after guys. I usually assume most guys want to be my friend and are just helpful. Then I’m usually proven wrong.

    I don’t ask guys for things, they offer, and I don’t provide sex in return, but I guess, since they offer, and I’m not the one asking, they’re the ones that lose?

    I don’t make or ask anyone for something they don’t want to do. If they offer to do my homework, drive me places, teach me to drive, etc. then that’s on them.

    I even say,”It’s ok! you don’t have to!” they usually insist.

    Maybe I’m surrounded by omegas? idk, these guys usually have no trouble hooking up with chicks. The ones that really do tend to be bitter towards me and whine to me a lot.

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  130. Women MIGHT take advantage of me in that way once at most. I would inevitably hit on them, and immediately break off all contact when rejected.

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  133. A well written and enjoyable humorous read. Keep entertaining the masses with your insightful writings Mr. Roissy. I look forward to the next social commentary you write.

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  134. GOLD. this thread is GOLD!

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