The Jerkboy Forged By Circumstance (And The Fear-Charisma Axis)

Jay in DC writes as a jerk who earned his jerkitude the hard way — by circumstance and experience instead of gifted to him by the cosmic overlord.

I unfortunately find myself walking down this same road. But I got here in an odd way. I was on the OTHER side of this equation for almost a decade. Law Enforcement and Prison were my job. The thing is, because you are dealing with literal animals all day, its adapt or die. So you get hard as fuck just like the creatures you have to “handle”.

This is also when I noticed the pussy starting to flow like mana from heaven. Couple that with already being a bit of a natural alpha and very decent looking (think young pre-insane Charlie Sheen) and yeah… I slayed vag for 2 decades straight.

In the last few years, I was on the OTHER side of the bars and that shit ain’t no kinda fun. Not going to get into the whole story but I nearly was killed in the process by overzealous cocksuckers who like to play “soldier” against US Citizens. (read: SWAT faggots)

Survived, but it just made what I already was much much worse. I have true killer instinct now because if I’m ever threatened in such a way again, I will put you in the fucking ground even if I’m going with you.

The thing is, this is a double edged sword. You usually have to soften this up around chicks because if you are ‘full on’ they will be afraid. Some natural charisma will leave them fearful but turned on. It is a balancing act for certain.

That last paragraph is crucial. Most men don’t readily grasp how entwined fear and arousal are in women. When men are aroused by the sight of a hottie, fear is not the emotion rumbling through us. There’s a bit of fear just before the approach, but that’s the fear of rejection and hurt pride, not the fear of physical harm, and it vanishes as quickly as it appears. Women….they’re different. Powerful, dangerous men arouse them, but these men also could hurt them, badly, in ways Mean Girls can never do. That fear is always present in women and it’s always bound closely with the men women find most alluring — the jerks, the assholes, the powerful, the strong, the sociopathic, the charismatic, the passionate, the unpredictable, the ambitious, and the reckless. The irresistible man is also the uncontrollable man, and women are fated to love the very men who could crush them as easily as they crush weaker men.

So when women say they are “intimidated” by sexy men, they aren’t lying, nor are they denying their sexual interest. A sexy man is necessarily an intimidating man, in one form or another, or he wouldn’t be sexy to women. Fear and arousal are hitched to the female id and work in concert to coax her to a fulfilling relinquishment to the insistent and desirous sex of a powerful man. Grrlpower is a temporary phase shift in the sexual market; a response by women to the emasculated soyboys who leave them cold. What women really want, beneath the feminist posturing for social media head pats, is to embrace their vulnerability and repose in their femininity, reflected through the overpowering lust of a man who doesn’t take to the leash.

This is why dangerous men have to walk it back and soften their hard edge, and why your typical beta male mediocrity has to find his inner jerk and turn it up. Without that element of fear, women won’t feel the white hot passion they are all capable of feeling for a man. But too much fear and women’s survival instinct will override their desire. (Not all women, though. Many such cases of women ignoring their fear response in favor of their furrow response, and paying the toll later.) This is where the fear-charisma axis comes into play; charisma, aka a self-knowing facility with teasing banter, relaxes women just enough to allow their fear of a powerful man to sublimate as carnality. This is why a woman will sometimes confess in the afterglow that the idea of you “having your way with her” turned her on so much. That’s the chord of fear you skillfully plucked in her which merged with the rhythm of her desire to elevate her to ecstatic surrender.

I loved that he was so powerful I was nothing.
– O





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  1. […] The Jerkboy Forged By Circumstance (And The Fear-Charisma Axis) […]

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  2. I met a young prison gaurd from a max security prison a while back. Ugly older single mom wife. WTF? How could he not leverage his job into some jerkboy cred?

    Concerning the latest rash of Weinstein and all being exposed, despite their power they remained betas, other wise they’d never be in hot water.

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  3. This is why the idea of being chivalrous is so dangerous when misapplied. It was designed for an aristocratic warrior class.

    Applied to a wealthy, dangerous man who spent most of his life training to run people through with spears, it softens them enough to function in polite society.

    Applied to a soy boy dweeb it just makes them into more of a pussy.

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  4. “This is why dangerous men have to walk it back and soften their hard edge”

    I’ll modify this, using Vox Day’s categorizations, which are helpful here:

    Scary-looking men need to dial up the delta — at the very least so other men will trust them — but ruthlessly kill any gamma tendencies they may have.

    Scary and gamma? DEFCON 1 Frankenstein’s Monster-grade creep.
    Gamma but not scary? Harmless little soyboy who can be used as a plush sobbing pillow.
    Scary but not gamma? Mad tinglezlzozlzolz. (Sigmas fall under this category.)

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  5. Being one of the scary dudes, tattoos, facial scars and all, I have always played up my sense of humor etc etc because it’s a fine line between scared and wet and too damn scared and dailing 911

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  6. on December 19, 2017 at 7:10 pm gunslingergregi

    yea I might be too far gone why not being able to speak to the bitches might actually help rofl

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  7. “Most men don’t readily grasp how entwined fear and arousal are in women.”

    Comment on CH I rejected at first but think more and more true over time: “I feel sorry for women. Imagine if the only way you could get horny was when someone was mean to you.”

    Change ‘mean’ to ‘threatening’ and it’s about right.

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  8. “reflected through the overpowering lust of a man who doesn’t take to the leash”

    Reminds me of that saying – ‘you gotta be cruel to be kind’ and that Nick Lowe song. Except it’s his honey baby saying that to him, the way the lyrics are written …. to his mystification.

    OK – so let’s say you buy the idea (as I do) that the operation of women’s dominance hierarchy is about mindfucking female competitors in order to reduce their competitor’s fitness, in order to reduce their competitor’s hotness ….. well …… creatures with said design feature certainly wouldn’t have an aversion to cruelty – right?

    So let’s say you are a guy (like me) that loves the orgasmic feeling associated with prevailing by way of dominant aggression of one form or another, but that immediate gratification is tempered by downstream regrets (like 5 minutes later), so you tend not to do that – feel like it’s better to try to get through life without hurting too may people if you can help it. Because, you know, it takes about 5 minutes to realize what it might feel like to be the other party, and that realization feeling sucks.

    OK – now, some people (maybe alot of people) may interpret that like you be a man that will accept the leash. Except they would be wrong in that interpretation, because it’s not about submitting to anybody except myself. I put my own self on the leash.

    And maybe to get the steady diet of thrills you absolutely must have by way of prevailing within the dominant aggression mode – you tend to direct that upon yourself – sorta like self-mastery – go to the gym and turn it on 100% with the full body lifts, or on the rower, or do sprinting intervals on the single track trails in the river valley, or sprint up the 20 flights of stairs taking two stairs at a time, or on the bike, or on the skis, or on the dirtbike.

    Alright – so you have had some problems with women in the past. It’s like the way you read it, inside the relationships, it’s – to yourself – ‘fuck-off with the constant drama provocation already you crazy cunt’ – except you don’t actually say that – you just kinda give her the ‘fuck – whatever’ then try to ignore. So you end up like what people might label mgtow except that’s not really accurate because instead it’s sorta like – ‘I’m on hiatus to finally get this sorted out because I’ve been around the block alot of times already’.

    Alight – so I think what I am reading here at CH (and elsewhere), is that I gotta convince myself I gotta be cruel to be kind with the ladies (or with the ‘bitches’ depending on how you choose to see this – because fuck, even though the ladies are soft and lovely and all, clearly also, they are cunts). So I gotta be cruel to be kind means that I love you, and all that. Jeez – sure seems like alot of work for pussy.

    Look – I know this advice is right – because of course you gotta try it out for yourself to see what happens, and lo and behold it turns out the ladies are just gaga for this. The ladies literally swoon for this. But man it just weirds me out. I can’t seem to get past that. It feels like I am operant conditioning their ass. Why would the Powers That Be give Man such a weird creature as this as a companion? Or maybe another way of saying this – I already raised one child, …. I don’t want to be in that business anymore at this stage in my life.

    What I want is an adult woman. Is there even such a thing?

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    • “What I want is an adult woman. Is there even such a thing?”

      you said some very interesting things in there wild man. as usual. bravo.

      I’m in a similar place with regards to women. sure I could turn a few dials in how I manifest myself in order to float their boats, but why should I?

      in business they say the way to solve many problems is to increase your marketing, which gives you access to more clients which enables you to raise your prices which enables you to hire better people, create better products, move to a better facility, etc.

      along the same lines, MANY of the so-called “problems” men face with women can be solved simply by him raising his own personal value. better shape. better informed. better finances. better friends. better communication skills. better sex skills. better game. better better better. move up the pecking order – problems disappear.

      if a guy follows this path of investing in himself, and continually RE-investing in himself, eventually he’s getting so many offers from women that he will simply find it ridiculous that he would do any real work to please them. in fact, he will feel the exact opposite. “what can you do, little girl, to get me interested in you, and how can you KEEP me interested in you?”

      a guy’s presence is so intense at this stage that really the only “game” he needs is to strategically push and pull his attention towards or away from her. no tricks. no canned routines. she’s living and breathing on his attention, trying to figure out how to keep it flowing. as long as he passes her shit tests and resists turning his affection into a predictable routine, she’ll dance for him indefinitely.

      now, regarding “adult” women, meaning those that behave at their feminine, submissive peak almost all the time: attractive, horny, intelligent, affectionate, giving, loyal, modest, helpful, etc., are rarely, if ever, in their twenties. more like late thirties. I’ve dated a couple. fantastic girlfriends, but when it came time to pull the trigger and start a family, I couldn’t do it. I just wasn’t confident that they could pop out more than one healthy kid.

      best girl I’ve had yet was half yenta. calm. self-assured, wonderful personality. pretty face. hot tight body. 36yo. probably could have popped out two healthy kids, but I’d see pictures of her family and think “eesh! fuck no!” one time we thought she might be pregnant and suddenly the reality of raising kids with semitic dna hit me like a ton of stale bagels. that was the end of that. plus you goys would’ve probably hunted me down.

      now if I can just find a young, hot Aryan girl like that, with that level of maturity, I’d be set… that seems to be VERY hard to find for me right now. young attractive white women in our pozzed culture are generally a confused mess. and s-l-u-t-t-y. and the good ones generally don’t want to bring a guy 25 years older than them home to mommy and daddy, unless she’s a butterface or a bit chubby. not happening. I’d rather take my DNA to my grave than bend the knee to the culture and become a dancing monkey for a second rate slut, or settle in with a girl that has a weird face and/or body.

      so I’m taking my own advice: better better better. hopefully I don’t overplay my have. I might be 60 before I find one worth knocking up. I’m okay with that…I think…

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      • overplay my *hand

        (I’ve really been working on my proofreading.)

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      • …and the truth is, our women are going to have to be “better better better.” seriously. the sluttiness needs to go. the cattiness needs to go. the SJW BS needs to go. THAT’S the message men need to hear and spread. NOT, “hey if I act more like this women might like me more.”

        no.

        the message guys need to hear and spread is: “look, bitch. I’m on top of my game. if you want some of this Aryan shitlord seed you need to clean up your act.”

        seriously.

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      • on December 19, 2017 at 10:20 pm Captain Obvious

        “best girl I’ve had yet was half yenta. calm. self-assured, wonderful personality. pretty face. hot tight body. 36yo. probably could have popped out two healthy kids”

        I like to think that I loathe The Tribe as much as anyone else in the Dark Enlightenment, but I’ll let you in on a little secret: It’s far, far, far better to have k!ds with the “wrong” person than never to have any k!ds at all.

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      • Genetically, yentas are no different than any other Middle Easterner women, of which there are some true gems with European temperaments and IQ (Elite Persians, Turks, etc.)

        What you absolutely must do is convert her to Catholicism and purge her of all Talmudic beliefs.

        The root of Jewish evil is the Talmud and its Satanic teachings. If Talmudic teachings could be wiped from the memory of every Jew, they would just be opportunistic Christians and Muslims, which we already have and can easily deal with. It is the special admixture of evil within the Talmud that has spawned Satan himself in the form of the Sanhedrin.

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      • PJ, I never cared about dying early until I had a son. Now I worry all the time about being there for him when he needs me the most. I will be 70 when he is 15 and 80 when he is 25. The Little Man deserves it and more.

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      • wise words CD, CO. thanks.

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      • “Genetically, yentas are no different than any other Middle Easterner women, of which there are some true gems with European temperaments and IQ (Elite Persians, Turks, etc.)

        What you absolutely must do is convert her to Catholicism and purge her of all Talmudic beliefs.

        It is the special admixture of evil within the Talmud that has spawned Satan himself in the form of the Sanhedrin.”

        DT, those are some very interesting thoughts. with this particular woman, I observed her with an electron microscope to see if she had any of that talmudic shit going on, and I couldn’t find any. the only thing she did was light a menorah at Hanukkah, and she barely knew what it meant. it was only way she had of making the holidays festive. otherwise she behaved like an upright Christian woman in almost every way. she even LOOKED Anglo. she had completely rejected her Jewish background and found their collective behavior patently self-destructive and absurd. she was pretty much right wing and redpilled on everything, including her own people, women, minorities, etc.

        all that worked in her favor, but…I just couldn’t get past my visceral reaction to seeing her next of kin, her mother and sister particularly. they were just too jewey. screechy voices. jew-fros. Jew goggles. social justice warriors. worked in politics and media. the whole vat of poison was right there, just a sibling away. a bit too close for comfort. my girl clearly was an anomaly, and I worried I wouldn’t love my kids if they favored her side of the family.

        what a great, solid, loving girl though. I don’t know if I’ll find another one like her.

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      • on December 20, 2017 at 9:03 am Captain Obvious

        How old is she now?

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      • she’d be about 40 now. probably goes to some alpha widow’s support group.

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      • on December 20, 2017 at 6:23 pm Captain Obvious

        If she’s kept good care of herself, you could probably get two or three kids out of her.

        But she would have to put in the effort of trying.

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    • on December 19, 2017 at 10:16 pm Captain Obvious

      “but that immediate gratification is tempered by downstream regrets (like 5 minutes later)”

      Dude, I used to get HORRIBLE post-co!tal depression – immediately after shooting my wad – and then for days afterwards, I’d still be depressed about having p1ugged a chick with whom I knew I couldn’t ever be serious.

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      • on December 19, 2017 at 10:18 pm Captain Obvious

        “‘I’m on hiatus to finally get this sorted out because I’ve been around the block alot of times already’… What I want is an adult woman. Is there even such a thing?”

        That little voice in the back of your head is trying to awaken you from the slumber of the purposelessness of the life through which you have been sleep-walking…

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    • You are operant conditioning their ass.
      They need us to tell them how to think and feel lol. We are complementary that way

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  9. I’ve worked with many ex-cons. Of all races. They do not all come out slaying pussy, with hard attitudes. In fact, most don’t. Most are sad sacs. The few who do get pussy, get gross fat ugly pussy. The fags go into prison to be fags. The winps go in to be wimps. The hard men go in hard. They all come out the same.

    I have a very hard time believing the stories told by the subjects of these posts.

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    • IDGAF if you believe it or not. And what you are saying is actually not untrue which is especially why I question your motive. You talk like a mewling beta, “I…I… it just can’t be true!1!” This is not some recipe for success, far from it. And prison will harden you or defeat you, which is exactly what you are saying, innit?

      Yes, if you are a faggot in the first place, the pen ain’t going to change you much. I didn’t start in LE / prison job as anything other than a scared ass white boy. But like I said, adjust or die. If you think that isn’t reflected once you clock out it means it is -you- who have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

      One of my longest relationships burned down in no small part because of the world I was constantly exposed to during that time. I remember the exact phrase, and she wasn’t wrong. “You are changing, for the worse. You bring that darkness home with you, and it is scary.” This was a girl who knew me as “the nice guy” so that dread effect only worked negatively with her.

      When I met newer ones, different issue as I learned to tailor the “experience” to fit their needs. But if you are a fucking chump going in, you will likely be one coming out. Nowhere did it say everyone comes out a pussy magnet, did it? You need some “raw material” to start with.

      Just like running off to Eastern Europe won’t turn you into the most desirable man alive over night too. If you were a beta chump in the States, well… you get it.

      Plus, what would be the point of making up a story about the fact that my life was basically ruined for literally just about nothing? There wasn’t a happy ending other than the fact that in a sea of soyboys the alpha predator I was before is even more magnified. In year 2007 it was noticeable, in year 2017 they will literally part like the red sea if you turn “it” on. But I went from a respectable career in law enforcement to being a convicted felon. That ain’t no kinda fun brah. I lived it and am living it. I’d much rather have my life back and be a bit less ZFG but this is the hand I was dealt by the system which is out to destroy us. (white males)

      If I wanted to make up a tall tale I would tell you who I ventilated every SWAT cocksmoker that raided me and got away clean. Reality is far more brutal and unkind than that. Interestingly, I learned that lesson 10 years earlier -working- around felonious scumbags. See how that works?

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      • on December 19, 2017 at 10:22 pm Captain Obvious

        MOAR about the single M0m Nordic blonde ex-lifeguard-ette, puh-LEEZE.

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      • Uhuh

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      • “MOAR about the single M0m Nordic blonde ex-lifeguard-ette, puh-LEEZE.”

        She was a lunatic cock carouseler. Still -very- hot for being post wall, strikingl so actually. Those ice blue eyes were like a Naziesque fap dream but three kinds of crazy ain’t for me… pass.

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      • on December 19, 2017 at 11:35 pm Captain Obvious

        “Those ice blue eyes were like a Naziesque fap dream”

        You gotta poast some pictures of that ch!ck, man!!!

        Any hope for an “Oops!” pr3gnancy and a Li’l Jay-Jay Jr outta her?

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      • Lol ” you bring the darkness home with you”. Someone get this guy a job writing for soap operas.

        No women has ever said anything even remotely like that without it first being written for her by someone else.

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      • “No women has ever said anything even remotely like that without it first being written for her by someone else.”

        This is part of the reason I had to ‘step out’ of places like this too. There are SO many beta/gamma herbs here with no life experience whatsoever.

        I understand why, they come here to learn, but on the other side of it. They speak as if they are the authority on all matters when most of them have never left their county, much less their state, much less have a passport with any mileage on it.

        Intelligent, hot, articulate women / girls DO exist. That girl was well spoken and chose that phrase -very- specifically because it was something we had spoken about before, but don’t let that stop you from your gamma expert musings.

        These women, they are not the 80IQ inbred GGW itard whores you are swimming in, hence, “no women talk like that.” They live in rarified air at an altitude your little plane’s max flight ceiling cannot achieve you gamma sperg cunt.

        So expert!1 So WOW!11!

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      • The double plus super secret darkness within super duper extra alpha thing to do here would have been to simply ignore or short insult.

        Instead, you took the beta/female path and wrote me a fucking novel.

        Add another point to the “made up bullshit” column.

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    • I didn’t bother to reply anywhere because the gentlemen who have the knack already get it or have an idea how to incorporate it, observe fine specimens like wild man and plumpjack whom consistently absorb and riff and contribute mightily. In your case, the best you can hope for is the reset comes long after you’re gone. You’re ‘authority’ has been given to you through a broken state, mine comes from when I shake your hand I’ve already thought of five ways to overpower you and end your life, if needed. Needless to say what a women sees in my eyes when I take her hand, hence the point of these posts but didn’t you spend all that time in school to learn about real life there, judge?

      Yes, social workers/psychologists/parole officers/judges are well known as pussy slayers and leaders of men. Without the weight of the state you become as you were meant to be, prey. Heartiste has heard from tens of thousands of men from all walks of life pouring their heart out and yet in your illustrious opinion you feel that some randoms can cruise by and pull a fast one. Pathetic and too dense to understand what can be seen from the few short sentences you wrote. Spineless effeminate cuckold comes to mind but I bet your mother always said you were bright. Take off your blinders and brush up on history, we are out here waiting and we will not be kind. Judge not lest ye be judged.

      and thank you, Heartiste, truly a Christmas gift I will treasure for a lifetime. Merry Christmas to all who still stand proud.

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  10. Cops change as they deal with ghetto minos, especially white cops. You can’t help becoming like them.

    Usually they start out pretty normal. It doesn’t take long for the cop who lives in the lily-white suburbs to start talking and acting like a nigger.

    Some cops get hooked on the streets. They find that way of living highly addictive.

    There is a darkness in being a cop, CO or soldier. That’s why they suicide themselves so often. The leading cause for all three is their own hand. They kill themselves MORE than the enemy kills them.

    You might come by my plantation, Jay. You have valuable information that would be useful to the movement.

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    • Yo man, long time no see. Part of my absence was exactly what I posted about.

      And you are 100% on point in your assessment. It is funny I ended up back in the slam because I remember dealing with the scum of the earth thinking “man if I ever thought about it committing a crime, I will think again”. Just being around that element was killing me. Like you said suicide rates for cops, CO, soldiers is thru the roof for a reason. I remember a black cop friend of mine who was a state guy picking up his service weapon after a night of hard drinking and he pulled the fucking trigger! Didn’t go bang because in the drunken blackout stupor he didn’t slot a mag. He got out soon after too.

      Another friend of mine is a career soldier. He left his fairly hot Aussie wife and kids here in DC to go where and do what? To live in fucking KABUL Afghanistan. He is a mid-ranking officer no less! Why? “Everything is so goddamn slow here, these people have no idea about anything, and I’m not use to not being shot at with any frequency” Burned his life down because he wasn’t getting the rush back in the States.

      Of course, my “crime” was offending a minority with an -obvious- joke but in current year you even breath the wrong way around some brown dude with a bone to pick and yes, you can be visited at 3am by the Waffen SS Korps of the US. Over-militarized motherfuckers I cannot say enough bad about them. They crash old ladies houses apart but piss down their leg when ONE guy in a hotel room has a weapon comparable to their own.

      Soldiers I respect even though they are mostly misguided fighting jew wars, modern police can eat a dick. Even when I was involved in that world it was already getting really bad. Now its insane. I’ll drop by your haunt soon. I was in survival mode for a good while there.

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      • on December 20, 2017 at 12:31 am gunslingergregi

        ok how you get felony ””””Of course, my “crime” was offending a minority with an -obvious- joke but in current year you even breath the wrong way around some brown dude with a bone to pick and yes, you can be visited at 3am by the Waffen SS Korps ””””””

        for offending

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      • on December 20, 2017 at 1:05 am gunslingergregi

        police seem to be former military and cool so uhh yea

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      • on December 20, 2017 at 1:06 am gunslingergregi

        now riot situations seems don’t be white lol

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      • on December 20, 2017 at 9:07 am Captain Obvious

        Gunslinger, like I was saying recently, if you’ve got righteous LEOs in your little corner of heaven [Appalachian Ohio?], then THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS.

        And forge alliances with as many righteous LEOs as you can.

        You’ll need those alliances cum da troublezzzezes.

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  11. What I want is an adult woman. Is there even such a thing?
    ………
    Nope. Even 80 year old girls want to twirl around in their skirts and be told they are pretty

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    • Cold fact.

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      • When I hear women talk to each other…especially in the work place, I want to put my head in my hands.

        “That top is so nice. Did you try the food that Kelsey brought in?”
        “Yeah…not my type”
        “No way…I thought it was awesome…try it with some cool whip”
        “Oh maybe later…ive already eaten too much”

        And on and on…jeez.

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      • to be true a horror scene they need to speak with the valley accent
        with 10 omg’s and 22 like’s in 3 f*ucking sentences
        I do not think that purgatory comes close to having to suffer 2 hours of
        like’s and omg’s

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  12. When I was desirous of sexual congress with the girlfiend who subsequently became my wife I would announce, presumably whilst undressing for bed, in a haughty but casual way, never in a theatrical way, I would announce, “I intend using you tonight”, or something like “I intend taking my pleasure with you tonight”.
    She, being an English girl, land of Chaucer and Benny Hill, would think this was most amusing.

    Twenty years later I was living with the next girlfiend (not from the British Isles) who also became my wife, and I used the same turn of phrase with her. After a couple of weeks of this she said to me “Martin, (NMRN), I wish you wouldn’t talk like that, it makes me feel that I shouldn’t let you do it”. She thought I was being serious!

    But the funny thing is that during that time she had never failed to comply with, what to her, were commands, and indeed when I looked back it occurred to me that she had approached sexual intimacy in a rather robotic way, as though she were a machine following instructions.

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  13. Carlos Danger:
    “PJ, I never cared about dying early until I had a son. Now I worry all the time about being there for him when he needs me the most. I will be 70 when he is 15 and 80 when he is 25. The Little Man deserves it and more.”

    I really hope to meet all of my children before I go.

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