The Fleece Marriage

Reports coming in from the field suggest a new form of marriage is appearing on the scene that capitalizes on late stage societal sanction of divorce theft. From Days of Broken Arrows,

I’m starting to notice a trend of older thirtysomething women marrying older guys, having a kid, and then almost immediately divorcing the guy. These aren’t rich guys, either, but average men who get nailed with child support.

This just happened to a guy I know and I don’t know how he’s going to deal with the financial fallout.

What these women are doing has to be some sort of racket. It’s one thing when couples meet and marry young, have a few kids and then split when the kids are teens because they grew apart. That I get.

But from what I’m seeing, these thirtysomething women (all pushing forty) are in and out of these men’s lives by the time the kids are 3. I’m posting it here because I think it plays into the main topic. Once they get past a certain age, these women don’t bond.

I did an online court records search and this is what my formerly happy-go-lucky friend is now facing:

Issue: DIVORCE LIMITED
Issue: POSSESSION OF PROPERTY
Issue: CUSTODY
Issue: VISITATION
Issue: SUPPORT
Issue: FEES

The sexual market in the US is warped beyond salvageability if shit like this is happening. So much wrong, where to begin?

DoBA is right that after a certain age women don’t emotionally bond with men like they could when younger. As the pool of eggs dries up, the reservoir of passion salts over. Men, too, lose some of this bonding ability with age but the difference there is that men can instantly regain the feeling of a strong bond if they date and marry considerably younger women. The bonding agent is called YHT — younger, hotter, tighter. You down with YoHoTi?

Misandry, not misogyny, is the law of the land. Literally. Look at that legal imprimatur for divorce theft. There’s even a line item for FEES, always a convenient catch basin to levy nebulous punitive damages against the poor schmuck who thought he was marrying forever.

The mate landscape is now so bad for American beta males that they’re wifing up late 30s Wall victims and aged feminist careercunts for one or two, max, years of tolerable sexual relief with a rapidly depreciating ASSet who will get her one kid with him after wasting her prime bangability on the cad carousel quaffing birth control pills like vitamins, and who will unceremoniously divorce rape him after the beta dupe has pitched in to help raise the little snotbag during the most inglorious, dull, and thankless years of its life between birth and toddlerhood.

No joys of fatherhood for you!

Only everlasting financial servitude and psychological destruction.

A sex market that rewards this sort of dynamic is irretrievably broken. We are spitting in the face of millennia of sex polarity, denying the God of Biomechanics his tribute. Instead of passionate love marriages with young women notarized by multiple children, we have socially expedient striver marriages in which haggard careerist shrews on perpetual headache mode diddle the bean to Fifty Shades of Gay and suck dry the resources and emotional commitment of beat-up fap-weary sex-starved limp beta noodleboys before chucking them to win cashmoneyshekels right at the moment fatherhood presumably gets interesting for the damned fools.

Gentlemen, beware the Fleece Marriage! (brought to you by an antagonistic state sponsored divorce theft apparatus and women responding to dystopian incentives).

I really wasn’t kidding when I said Game can save the West.

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DoBA added additional context to the above story. I reprint his comment here,

I feel that I should have provided Heartiste with more background before I submitted this comment. Since this blog post will read by a lot of men in the future, I’m going to add some more info here pertaining to some comments here.

1). The man in question is by all definitions Alpha. Super-tall and good-looking with no shortage of women. Yes, he could have been “internally Beta,” but the Divorce Industrial Complex makes everyone Beta since Big Daddy Government and his child support collectors are Alpha by comparison.

2). The woman has requested as “pendente lite hearing,” which is a way she can get child support and custody before the divorce is settled. Translation: “Give me money, now.”

3). From what I gather, she had him evicted from their home. Or removed. Or something. Whatever the case, she’s still there and he’s renting a place in another Maryland town…in Prince George’s County. This is like being sent to hell. I don’t even like to drive through there.

4). I didn’t even think of this until I read some of the comments, but this woman does, in fact, have a bunch of female friends who are bad influences and likely leaned on her to file for divorce. I should know. I went out with one: Government worker, divorced, eternally single, makeshift “Christian” (i.e. frigid or mentally unstable), etc. In short, every negative stereotype about American women in one package. We went out once and I was warned about her by a guy who dated her but didn’t listen.

5). From the court records, it looks like this divorce has gone through something like a dozen hearings already. She first filed for divorce last October and they’ve been in court every month disputing something. A lawyer I happen to know charges $350 per hour. If this guy’s lawyer is charging (let’s say) two hours per hearing, that’s a LOT of money.

6). He’s now about 50 and she’s about 40.

In short, if you’re thinking about getting married, really think about what you’re doing. As someone who is divorced, I would say that you have to get in on the GROUND LEVEL with women. Once they’re about 33-34, you don’t know where the hell they’ve been and their anger toward men or neurosis about them will likely be taken out on YOU. From what I see, the best marriages are when the couples meet in high school or college.

That last paragraph is gold plated good advice. Single women get bitter and spiteful with age in a way that men don’t, because every added cock scours a woman’s soul while every added pussy gild’s a man’s soul. Bad relationship experiences accumulating over the years can ruin men and women, but men in my observation, when they bounce back, are more seamlessly able to reconstitute a loving relationship with a new woman minus the emotional baggage of past women who left him with bad memories. Women who have run through failed relationships tend to dump increasingly heavy loads of baggage on their new men.

tl;dr: younger women >>> older women.





Comments


  1. on September 27, 2017 at 1:06 pm XTRABEING ZILLIONZ

    Game is a powerful tool, but I stand my assertion that internalized Masculine Sexuality — what you would call inner frame — is the best.

    By that I mean, move sexually, feel like you’re a sexual being — know that you’re desired by girls FOR BEING A MALE. Seems simple to me.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 7:52 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      Thanks for putting this out, Heartiste. I’m leaving this comment up here so it won’t be missed. I want to make clear that in this court case HE is the defendant. It’s HER suing for divorce. Also, I noticed on Faceb**k that she and all her friends are no longer friends with him. So, this is a major freeze-out on her part, yet they have a 3-year-old. Gee, I thought it was women who said “Think of the children?”

      I won’t go into the wasted expense regarding their wedding, which was less than five years ago. I wouldn’t want the readers here to get physically ill.

      [CH: i feel bad for this guy. the best thing he could do now is start over in another part of the country, find himself a brand new woman, and build a new family.]

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      • Or better yet, start off in another country, away from the divorce raping he is going to get.

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      • Women never think of the children. It’s a myth that women are naturally good parents.

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 10:05 pm Vagina dominator

        Assuming our society and financial system is going to continue much longer anyway…

        1. Never let a woman know who much money you have, where it comes from , how you spend it, and how you save or invest it. Even if you are married, it is none of her fucking pinheaded business.

        2. In anticipation of this and many other different ways the State likes to seize your assets, from the very start keep all of your assets out of the court’s jurisdiction.

        3. Try to have two passports.

        4. Let her have the financial assets assessed at current value (soon to be 5% of current value)

        Assuming the opposite (imminent end of this system)

        1. If you have food, guns, and a safe place, her loyalty is assured.

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 10:06 pm Vagina dominator

        Assuming our society and financial system is going to continue much longer anyway…

        1. Never let a w0man know how much money you have, where it comes from , how you spend it, and how you save or invest it. Even if you are [email protected], it is none of her fucking pinheaded business.

        2. In anticipation of this and many other different ways the State likes to seize your assets, from the very start keep all of your assets out of the court’s jurisdiction.

        3. Try to have two passports.

        4. Let her have the financial assets assessed at current value (soon to be 5% of current value)

        Assuming the opposite (imminent end of this system)

        1. If you have food, guns, and a safe place, her loyalty is assured.

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      • The overwhelming majority of divorces are instigated by the wymminz.
        He can count himself lucky if she doesn´t start accusing him of child molestation and/or domestic violence.
        A standard tactic suggested by the divorce lawyer.

        Godspeed to your friend.

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    • This happened to someone I know about 10 years ago. He was early 40s to her early 30s, and she had one kid from a previous marriage. He adopted the kid to boot. They were married five years plus one day when she filed for divorce. Law here says five years is the same as twenty years. A marriage under five years is far less profitable. She got half of everything, including his pension to come and his retirement investments, plus alimony and child support. Her “career” was five years with him, and it’s going to take care of her for the rest of her life.

      [CH: that’s an injustice, there’s no other way to describe it.]

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    • on September 29, 2017 at 12:39 am Days of Broken Arrows

      I feel that I should have provided Heartiste with more background before I submitted this comment. Since this blog post will read by a lot of men in the future, I’m going to add some more info here pertaining to some comments here.

      1). The man in question is by all definitions Alpha. Super-tall and good-looking with no shortage of women. Yes, he could have been “internally Beta,” but the Divorce Industrial Complex makes everyone Beta since Big Daddy Government and his child support collectors are Alpha by comparison.

      2). The woman has requested as “pendente lite hearing,” which is a way she can get child support and custody before the divorce is settled. Translation: “Give me money, now.”

      3). From what I gather, she had him evicted from their home. Or removed. Or something. Whatever the case, she’s still there and he’s renting a place in another Maryland town…in Prince George’s County. This is like being sent to hell. I don’t even like to drive through there.

      4). I didn’t even think of this until I read some of the comments, but this woman does, in fact, have a bunch of female friends who are bad influences and likely leaned on her to file for divorce. I should know. I went out with one: Government worker, divorced, eternally single, makeshift “Christian” (i.e. frigid or mentally unstable), etc. In short, every negative stereotype about American women in one package. We went out once and I was warned about her by a guy who dated her but didn’t listen.

      5). From the court records, it looks like this divorce has gone through something like a dozen hearings already. She first filed for divorce last October and they’ve been in court every month disputing something. A lawyer I happen to know charges $350 per hour. If this guy’s lawyer is charging (let’s say) two hours per hearing, that’s a LOT of money.

      6). He’s now about 50 and she’s about 40.

      In short, if you’re thinking about getting married, really think about what you’re doing. As someone who is divorced, I would say that you have to get in on the GROUND LEVEL with women. Once they’re about 33-34, you don’t know where the hell they’ve been and their anger toward men or neurosis about them will likely be taken out on YOU. From what I see, the best marriages are when the couples meet in high school or college.

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  2. Only one child, but they will always be able to add a 5th cat.

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  3. on September 27, 2017 at 1:08 pm XTRABEING ZILLIONZ

    I’ll go into some details of what I call Masculine Sexuality.

    You’ve got biceps on your arm. Think of them as your tits. They really are, you know. As you move and flex, it’s — to straight women — like if you were shoving breasts in a man’s face.

    When I played pool with two girls and two guys, the girls were watching my ass as I stretched over the table. Now, granted, I’m pretty damn good-looking, but the principle stretches to every male under 65 who’s in half decent shape.

    And finally, for GOD’S SAKE ACT LIKE YOU’RE A SEXUAL BEING. Low-cut tops, tighter jeans, light lithe movements on the feet…I never see Heartiste talking about this, leading me to believe that Hbomb has a low self-esteem. Too bad, really — that.

    [CH: low cut tops?]

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 1:28 pm XTRABEING ZILLIONZ

      You know, Heartiste, the V-shaped ones, with the Buffalo or Guess label, something that shows a little skin. Men are so conditioned to wear suits right up to their chins they don’t realize male skin is an attractant, not something to be hidden.

      [CH: i have some posts in the archives on men’s fashion where you’ll find i have suggested v-necks as an all-purpose sexiness boost.]

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      • CH, damn, you really have the patience of Job. How you manage, time after time, to shiv without snarking is a mystery. You are the exemplar of tact.

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      • The only other person on here I’ve ever seen recommend v-necks was the faggot within…

        From last years march (2016)

        The Spirit Within
        Context is king.

        Beta male with chicken arms in a washed-out gray polo shirt at a sports bar on Saturday night? Ain’t gonna work. Bitch shield has been activated. You’ll get blown out worse than eighties mall hair.

        Alpha male with muscle tone in a fitted v-neck at the dog park on Saturday afternoon? Better odds. (Dog is optional. Just go and strike up convos.)

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      • Golf polo, nice slacks or good quality dark jeans, and brown leather shoes and belt. And a good watch. Nice style and not too try hard.

        If you’re feeling extra douchey, a gold or silver chain is all good as well (not a niggerish one though).

        Too formal and you come off as some steampunk larping omega (seriously fuck fedoras excepting very specific circumstances). Too casual and you look like you’re stuck in high school or college.

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      • Women are attracted to the male ass more than anything. If it’s in shape. Yes you have to tell some men that last part.

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      • on September 28, 2017 at 10:39 am Les Saunders, Protestant

        The dress pants and golf shirt look is gay. Make up your mind, either you’re going casual or you’re not. It’s a boomer Florida real estate agent look, or worse, like a Governor wearing a golf shirt with the state logo on the chest trying to look approachable.

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    • >low-cut tops

      http://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=lOzAiDlJGp8

      Ben Stiller v-neck sketch.
      Yes the Cathedral mentions masculinity only to laugh at it, but you can always just “not get the joke.”

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 2:31 pm Muerte aka Luciano

      They love armz

      but dudes really underestimate how much ladies luh luh love a well sculpted ass.

      if u ain’t squatting hard, u a losah

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  4. How many of the ‘dads’ also get to pay for the IVF because the wifey isn’t able to conceive because of the various STDs and byproducts of a lifetime of hormonal birth control?

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    • So much this.
      Also the “slut cancer” HPV vaccine craze a while ago led to a shit-ton of vaccine injuries effectively sterilizing the young girls.
      Apart from the fact the vaccine is absolutely useless, as there are so many HPV strains.
      Of course you hardly hear THAT in the (((news))).

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  5. on September 27, 2017 at 1:10 pm XTRABEING ZILLIONZ

    The hardest part of getting Masculine Sexuality is looking in the mirror and seeing a sexual being there. Your friends will mock you, girls will giggle at you, and — until you BELIEVE YOU’RE WORTH BEING FUCKED BY — you will doubt yourself. Doubt is the masculine-sexuality killer. You must not — for one single solitary second — “pretend” to be sexual. You must BE sexual. X.

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    • I bet you say that to all the guys as you look back over your shoulder.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 1:44 pm A concerned reader

      It’s sad how I’ve been lurking here for years, and this is the catalyst to cause me to break my silence.

      Xtrabeing, “masculine sexuality” isn’t and shouldn’t be your end goal. When I look in the mirror I want to see about 100 things before a “sexual being” crosses my mind. Stop shitting up this forum.

      T. A concerned reader

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      • Concerned reader, you don’t say much, friend, but when you do it’s to the point and I salute you for it.

        I do think it’s kinda funny to imagine Xtrabeing gazing in the mirror and telling himself “I AM A SEXUAL BEING” over and over.

        X, for the Zillionth time, we’re not your friends, and if we were, you’d be getting a lot worse from us.

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      • These two comments remind me why this is the only site whose comments I read.

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      • I often wonder what the payoff amount for CH to get rid of annoying commentators would be. Like we could have one of those fund raisers every month and set the goal amount to the level of annoyance they bring.

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      • I got 1k on Rick if he ever starts up again.

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      • Concerned reader, you don’t say much, friend, but when you do it’s to the point and I salute you for it.

        SaucyQueer/Xtrabeing believes that, in his line, the one thing you don’t want is….

        … air in the conversation.

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      • I often wonder what the payoff amount for CH to get rid of annoying commentators would be.

        Lucky for me, all my enemies here are either irate kikes who are extremely loathe to part with even a shekel of JIDF shillgeld…

        …or basement dwellers that don’t have two nickels to rub together after their weekly Cheetos and Red Bull stock-ups..

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      • Why don’t you ninnies stop looking in the mirror so much?

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    • -looking in the mirror and seeing a sexual being

      I’ll pass…

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    • Reminds me of the globlowhomo senator from Minnesota.

      “I deserve good things. I am entitled to my share of happiness. I am attractive person. I am fun to be with. I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and, doggonit, people like me!

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    • It puts the lotion in the basket or else it gets the hose again.

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  6. I had heard a lot about divorce rape but am just now seeing friends go through it. Sickening to think about how much wealth transfer feminism has brought about, and not just to single “mothers” (any woman who chooses to let her kids grow up without a father isn’t a real mother).

    Feminism has led to a vast increase in tax revenue to the fed gov, lower wages, thus more money for empoyers, plus all the tax revenues and bueracracy of daycares. Divorce represents plenty of money for the bueracratic machine that administers all of the theft from beta males, de facto slavery of earning men paying child support, and money for the lawyers. Plus all the welfare and gov programs for liberated single mothers and their doomed spawn. It’s all a big sick awlf licking icecream cone

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    • “any woman who chooses to let her kids grow up without a father isn’t a real mother”

      Agreed. Even if you stand back and look at it from a coldly clinical perspective, all studies point to children only being able to reach their max potential if they are raised in a stable home with both parents. Any woman who chooses her vagina over her childrens’ well being is worthless and will inevitably die alone.

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      • agreed

        d1vorce is never good but i’ve seen quite a few parents who have successfully raised good well adjusted kids afterwards. that was only because the made an effort to get along and the mom didn’t make it impossible for the kids to have a relationship with dad. 50/50 custody all the way, flexible schedules, both parents fully involved in everything, etc

        and most men want to be in their kid’s lives. so these women are usually pretty sh1tty wives/moms/people if the man doesn’t even want to stick around and raise his own kid.

        so many cases of moms who make sure the dad has no chance at staying connected to the kids. she moves far away, shacks up with new men so kids bond with him instead of dad, makes sure the father sees the kids only every other weekend or less, badmouths the dad to them, etc.

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      • makes me sick when i see how proud these women are to call themselves single moms too. especially since some of them aren’t even single moms. the dad is actually still around and trying to be involved so she’s not doing it all alone like people think.

        divorced mom is one thing. single mom is something else. that implies there is no dad in the picture at all and that’s nothing to be proud of.

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      • They should be lined up against the wall and shot, but that’s just my opinion.

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      • Agreed. Even if you stand back and look at it from a coldly clinical perspective, all studies point to children only being able to reach their max potential if they are raised in a stable home with both parents.

        Not really true. There have been studies that showed that children raised by single fathers did as well as those raised in two-parent homes.

        [CH: yeah i’ve seen those. single moms appear to be the central problem.]

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 8:35 pm Days of Broken Arrows

        Two points:

        1). Feminism is in fact to blame for divorce rape. But to a lesser degree, so is the “daddy-daughter dance” crowd on the right, who idealize women and believe they can do no wrong. Cuckservatives have to take some blame for this.

        2). A lot of people can’t get it through their heads that single mothers are often not just “victims.” A lot of them don’t want a man interfering in the raising of their child because they have control issues.

        I got in a huge argument with a woman from the “daddy daughter dance” crowd about all this recently. She called me sexist, misogynist, etc. But I know women like this first-hand. They might agree that having a man around is good for a child, but they can’t make that jibe with their personal life. They don’t want THAT MAN in their child’s life. It’s like listening to an old Reba song.

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      • on September 28, 2017 at 12:41 am Oleaginous Outrager

        “But but but, the TV told me any group of friends can be a family, even better than a boring old ‘nuclear family’. All you need is love (and problems that can be easily resolved in less than 27 minutes)!”

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      • Single Fathers do better?

        Make sense; you teach your kids to “walk it off” and to prove your value by actually you know….doing something of worth….to not define yourself by your emotions.

        To be competitive and “win”.

        Reminds me of something I heard about once, supposedly there was a study that showed people who did sports in high school vs people who did high and college but no sports, and on average the people who only played sports but did no college were doing at the very least, economically better than their higher educated counter parts.

        Success is about drive and what sports teaches you is the value of winning and the value of being a good sport and how to deal with losing.

        People who don’t engage in any competitions end up not having to discover what losings like until “after” they graduate college.

        Maybe not the best time for that, certainly as compared to discovering it at twelve years old.

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    • Same things happen in Ireland/UK. My wife’s sister left her husband for her lover of many years (she had a date arranged with him for when she returned from her honeymoon!! I’m serious) stuck the husband with looking after the kids, took half the value of each of the following: house, savings and pension and with the proceeds set up home with (and later married) the lover.

      Can it be much worse in America?

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    • Feminism is just an offshoot of Marxism attempting to bring about the same ends. Redistribution of wealth and the destruction of the West. In this case the Patriarcy is Capital and Women are Labor. Upending traditional sexual mores and destroying traditional strong families is (((Their))) fruit.

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    • Only men pay taxes..

      All women are a net drain on society.

      Not sure about the actual veracity of this, but it has the ring of truth to it.

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  7. If you’re getting married, Bitcoin and gold are your asset protection. And to be safe, she should know about neither.

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    • Won’t do any good. Google “imputed income.” Child support is based not on what you’re known to have or what you earn, but what the judge thinks you could earn, if you worked 96 hours a week and ate nothing but store brand ramen.

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      • Yes. I’ve never divorced (never married) and knew nothing of imputed income until it came up with a few of my friend’s divorces. Imputed income alone is why I will never marry. There are so many other reasons but the concept of imputed income is the most in-American, non-free thing I’ve ever heard about. That a guy has to work certain (hellish) jobs for certain (high) amounts of hours just to bankroll someone who he is NO LONGER IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH, is the most unfair concept imaginable.

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      • I’ve been thinking, isn’t this some form of indentured servitude with imputed income? How is that even legal??

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      • Wrong to say metals/bitcoin will do no good. While gold/silver and bitcoin will not protect you from child support calculated based upon your income, they absolutely can shield your savings from divorce theft. Just make sure she doesn’t know about your squirreled-away assets.

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      • I’ve been thinking, isn’t this some form of indentured servitude with imputed income?

        Oh, absolutely. It’s modern-day debt peonage. And I’m sure that powerful and evil men are racking their brains to come up with some sort of way that it can be extended to men who don’t have children. (Actually, they have made a lot of progress on this. Google “prison-industrial complex.”)

        How is that even legal??

        This is probably a rhetorical question, but in case it isn’t, I’ll answer: Anything the courts say is legal is legal. And the courts are totally corrupt.

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      • Imputed income alone is why I will never marry.

        Marrying is not so much the danger; it’s fathering children. In this day and age of working women, alimony is really not much of a thing; it’s child support that they really screw you on. Which, of course, is satanically dysgenic. It’s only men who have future time orientations–which means mostly white men–that are opting out of the scam through non-reproduction. Every dirtbag negro out there is still reproducing like gangbusters. After all, jail is their second home anyway so what do they care if they spend some time there once in a while for non-payment of child support.

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    • ^^Wisdom speaks. Discount at your peril.^^

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    • IRS is tracking bitcoin now.

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      • Correction: The irs is ATTEMPTING to track bitcoin. Also, for all the anonimity bitcoin offers (moderate), Monero is allegedly ENTIRELY anonomous and untraceable. Its price is not tracking bitcoin as much, either, so it seems to be more independent, unlike most cryptos (good sign imo). Seems its the new crypto of choice for black market, to boot. Food for thought.

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      • The IRS can track every bitcoin transaction that doesn’t have strong opsec. They are trying to catch bigger fish. The rest of that sounds interesting. I am trying to clean up my online presence at the moment. But that all sounds like something to research. I know that even lightcoin offers a lot of security against establishment le.

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    • Lolzozozoz gold has no resale or inherent value.

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 10:19 pm Vagina dominator

        @ Publius “gold has no resale or inherent value.”

        1. From the perspective of economic theory, *nothing* has inherent value. The economic value of something is a matter of individual preference and market perceptions.

        2. As it stands today, gold is a freely tradeable commodity and can be exchanged for currency anywhere you go in the world.

        So how should one hold assets to keep them safe from the various predators that inhabit our world? Hard question. Depends on what you think the future holds.

        May I suggest you watch the video of the Gordon T long video I posted below? I think it gives a very good idea of where our financial situation is headed these next twelve months.

        This information may help you decide how you wish to either hold or dispose of your assets given what is coming.

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      • @Vagina dominator: “*nothing* has inherent value”

        I would like to disagree with that statement. There are a lot of things that have inherent value. Examples:

        Food. Water. Clothes (to keep you warm). Fuel (to keep you warm). Housing (to fend off the elements).
        Without the above you’d probably die or get sick. Ergo they have inherent (utility) value.

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      • Moron, gold&silver will be the only real world assets left, when the (((fiat money))) system breaks down, worldwide.

        It´s in fact already breaking down, as the wild bitcoin price swings are an actual indicator how our “real” money is constantly deprecating in value.

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      • Ok, then by all means do continue investing in other assets and leave the barbaric relics to us barbarians.

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      • “I would like to disagree with that statement. There are a lot of things that have inherent value. Examples:

        Food. Water. Clothes (to keep you warm). Fuel (to keep you warm). Housing (to fend off the elements).
        Without the above you’d probably die or get sick. Ergo they have inherent (utility) value.”

        Don’t forget rocks and sticks (to throw at game)… Everything that exists has inherent value by this reckoning. Where does this get you?

        To discuss specific value apart from a market is nonsensical.

        How much would you pay for the last can of sardines if you were starving? All that you had? How much would you pay today at a grocery store?

        What then is the “inherent” value of a can of sardines?

        It’s a meaningless concept. Only God could declare such a thing. Different men occupying different markets could never agree. It’s the same for gold as it is sardines as it is for any commodity.

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      • It does in jina

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  8. well you have to ask yourself why this guy did what he did. why get married so late, to such an old woman? if someone puts their hand in the fire, i don’t feel any sympathy when they inevitably get burned. guys like that deserve to be raped; it’s nature’s way.

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    • Yes. That’s the entire point.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 10:23 pm Vagina dominator

      Modern people, in particular men, are kept in the dark about the reality of this predatory world by on one hand being soft and coddled and on the other by being manipulated and abused.

      No psychological defenses. It is nature’s way. But is isn’t nature’s only way. The could have been raised strong and with self respect.

      Still, most of these guys never learn.They just get raped over and over again.

      They refuse to accept that in this world there are *no* eternal sweet princesses.

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    • on September 28, 2017 at 5:49 am Les Saunders, Protestant

      Why do these guys márrÿ them in the first place? Because moderin men are hapless and helpless in today’s sexual market. They’ve been thrown into a war for which they’ve received no training and are utterly ill-equipped. They are jumping over the top and getting mowed down by machine gun fire. The rest, terrified and unable to fight, are sitting out the war. By the time they get to be 40, desperation has set in and they’ll take anything that spreads her legs for him. Sad!

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    • I guess you´re some know it all young punk.

      From personal experience I can assure you that the “baby rabies” are very much a male problem too.
      When you approach the 5 – OH a cavalcade of cunts or for the incels/MGTOWs, “the blessed peace” suddenly looses its appeal.

      As you sure as hell don´t want to wait till fücking sixty, so you can be the proud 75 year old dad at the high school diploma ceremony.

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  9. “I really wasn’t kidding when I said Game can save the West.”

    Amen. Before I even got to that line in this post I was thinking that if this guy knew better he would have avoided this entire situation. Or, even better, banged her a few times and moved on.

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  10. Marriage/divorce has become an integral part of the American woman’s story. First it’s a romance, then a huge wedding. Then when the luster of that wears off, the story moves on to a divorce, followed by the “abuse survivor” narrative (strangely, SHOCKINGLY, women in truly abusive relationships seem to stick around), and then a transition into single mom secular sainthood. All of this part of the dramatic story arc, all parts replete with opportunities for delicious drama and emotions. Rinse and repeat after single mommery gets old

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    • This This This

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    • One upon a time, a woman’s life revolved around her family. Today, it’s all about her “journey.”

      What men need to understand is that the modern woman’s “journey” INVARIABLY INCLUDES DIVORCE. Year after year of being a committed wife and mother makes for dull TV. We need something to spike the ratings. Nothing shakes up the storyline like a good breakup.

      It used to be shameful for a woman to be a divorcee. Now it’s a badge of honor. Ever notice how much support and praise women get when they nuke their marriages? They’re not destroying their family — they’re exhibiting courage and strength, embarking on an exciting new chapter in their lives.

      Today’s woman gets married in order to get divorced. Maybe not consciously, but ain’t it suspicious how many follow exactly the same pattern?

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    • Pro comment….

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    • And they assume they are entitled to all of it.

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    • on September 28, 2017 at 5:57 am Les Saunders, Protestant

      After their frivorce, they become strong and independent, posting melodramatic pap on Faceberg, and garnering hundreds of likes and supportive comments. Facebook, with its pictures of dogs for profile pics, has become society’s lowest common denominator.

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  11. […] The Fleece Marriage […]

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  12. Check typical behavior in your own state: http://realworlddivorce.com/

    In Massachusetts, they allowed an activist lesbian to become a judge in family court. Of over 500 reviewed cases that the lesbian ruled on, 99% of the time the woman got primary custody, which in MA means she got the cash and prizes to go along with that.

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    • the libs have a bizarre thing about giving LEO and judicial roles to outsiders.

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    • This site is a gold mine of crazy information. I just read up on my state and learned so much. They had interviews from two big time divorce lawyers, and different scenarios/couples that they often see. Many of those types of couples and divorces were already talked about here in the comments… they also mentioned how it’s typically the woman initiating the divorce.

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    • (((Lesbian))).

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  13. Read Bannon-endorsed The Fourth Turning by Strauss and Howe, they say Gen X will fix the divorce mess. The next big thing to push for (now that the wall is going up) is the merciless elimination of No Fault Divorce.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 1:32 pm XTRABEING ZILLIONZ

      Never happen. It can’t. The liberals have made an unholy Deal with the Devil, namely females, to ensure they get elected.

      For most of the 20th century, they would’ve lost the majority of election if they hadn’t had the female and nonwhite votes in their pocket. They will never turn their backs on their vaginal benefactors. Besides, Dems make the best Betas.

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    • No Fault has been a catastrophe, and paradoxically was first signed into law by St. Ronnie when he was gov. of Calif.

      A legal paper once noted that no-fault divorce made ending a marriage by one party (to the distress of the other) so easy, it was easier than ending a lawn-care contract.

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      • No Fault has been a catastrophe, and paradoxically was first signed into law by St. Ronnie when he was gov. of Calif.

        He also signed the Mulford Act and the law that de facto legalized abortion on demand in California (that was about five years prior to Roe.)

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      • Nor should we forget St. Ronnie signing his amnesty bill in 1986 that turned Cali blue forever.

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    • What needs to be eliminated around the Western world are ‘Courts of equity’(aka Family Court) they are not real courts. No rules of evidence, no presumption of innocence and hearsay evidence is treated like real evidence. In the U.S. they are unconstitional, everywhere else…well they’re just bullshit. If the government wants to lower the divorce rate, stop incentivising it. If the government made sure Men kept the money,assets and the kids. Stopped giving money to the domestic violence industry, and womyns groups. Then this would lift the handbrake on the whole industry.

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    • Elimination of No Qualification Voting is preferable.

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    • These problems occurred before and will again. I agree with the vast majority of the comments I’ve read. As far as I’m aware it has only been solved ONCE, attacking the issue legally and culturally. Though technically a success, the cure was bitter and poorly received. Culture downstream from politics.

      Rome’s first Emperor Augustus Caesar enacted laws making adultery illegal (circa 18 BC?) Allowed husbands to kill adulterers bound them to divorce adulterous wives. If they didn’t they were basically prosecuted as pimps. (Wouldn’t it be nice to rid the country of all these husbands “standing by” whore school teacher wives who bang their students?) Also allowed fathers to kill adulterous daughters and the adulterous partner.

      Of course the first thing he did to cement power was basically OUTLAW DIVERSITY. He restored all the statues of Julius Caesar and exiled all those who practiced, trafficked in, bought or sold any cultural icons of Egypt. And he banished them to…. Africa!

      Hail Augustus Caesar!
      What a guy!

      FE

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      • Yea dad’s should definitely have the right to kill daughters for going against moral codes doing them a favor saving from a fucked in the head life
        Heads of family men should hold their families lives in their hand makes marriage a fuck of a lot more serious but men are expected to go die in war
        Allthough in my case I do also allow the female power over my life and death and I have done it with every woman I loved after my first wife

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      • That’s where the Muslims have a point or two about familial life.

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    • Too late for gen x and our children.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 10:28 pm Vagina dominator

      Adulterous married people should be prosecuted non-optionally *by the State* under the criminal law.

      Unmarried people who commit adultery with a married person should be open to civil prosecution.

      Divorce by mutual agreement should not be onerously difficult.

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  14. lol, if you 40 and marrying any bish, you probably have assets. You need to prenup the shit out of that and make sure you’re pre-marital assets are clearly defined.

    But who knows, divorce court is a dick, from what I’ve heard. There was a documentary showing one court required an “expert” to discern the best interests of the children. He was a coke blowing fag. He charged $5K per consult.

    Holy shit!

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  15. See if the forum will let me post today.

    My overly wordy story yesterday was that the first women I “knew” in the Biblical sense had been with guys before me. She was apparently enthusiastic about the whole thing, even went into detailed plans about kids, getting a house, etc. Then she ran across a guy who appealed to her temporarily in some way and she was gone, with an apology but apparently as little concern or emotion as she’d have deciding to eat at a different fast food joint.

    Ran into her years later; in the meantime, she had been married twice (no kids), divorced twice, and was then banging the random guy on the street who had helped carry her boxes in when she moved. She was friendly with me, as if it had been maybe a week since we saw each other instead of 10 years, and told me all this stuff without the slightest bit of reticence.

    Out of curiosity, I friended her on FaceBerg. She soon dropped U-Haul Man, with tragic writhing on her FaceBerg, then picked up another goon. trumpeting it with a mix of triumph and totally casual, relaxed cheerfulness, like “oh, yeah, I got a new pair of shoes today. Yay me!”

    Then I contrast this to my parents, who got married at 21 and 18 years of age, and are still together. Practically joined at the hip; two sides of the same coin. Shoulder to shoulder allies. It’s hard for me to believe that they’re even the same species as the women I’ve run into since.

    Can only imagine that there’s a pair-bonding window in a woman’s early fertile years. Let her carousel around and her ability to pair-bond will be “shot off in the war.”

    It’s hard to see how to fix this situation on an overall scale. How do you get pair-bonding when half of the population (at least) has been permanently rendered incapable of pair-bonding?

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    • How do you get pair bonding when half the population is incapable of it?

      When the other half gets enough self-worth not to pair bond with them.

      The woman sounds like either a psychopath or a nymphomaniac.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 8:38 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      This is a great story. I know women like this too. I think some of the behavior is driven by anti-depressants and other prescribed drugs.

      What does the woman you describe do for a living? That’s often a tell for me.

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  16. One that Early Pair-Bonding Window is shot, there’s no going back. Can’t see how this is going to be fixed on a large scale. Individual, sure, Overall? Seems impossible.

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    • Once*. Damn it.

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    • that really is the gist of it. men are wifing up women who are not fully bonded with them and then wonder why they get cheated on or dumped. sad times.

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      • it’s tough though. most men would assume a girl has bonded with them because she says she loves him and wants a commitment. no way to really know if she’s in it all the way and fully attached.

        that’s why it’s so important to look at the risk factors and not take chances on girls who hit the markers. there might be exceptions but for the most part you just have to avoid girls who were raised without fathers or have bad relationships with their fathers, avoid cheerleaders and sorority girls, avoid girls who have had more than a couple men in their lives. that includes one night stands, multiple marriages, a lot of LTRs, casual relationships. that first return of kings list of slut tells that was posted in the other post covers all of these.
        you can ignore the signs all you want because you think your girl is different but you’re doing so at your own risk and it will most likely end badly

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      • A lot of 30yo women are just children with children being paid a salary.

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      • I dunno about this “bonding” thing. as CO pointed out the other day, women are wired to shit test you for weakness, 24/7, from cradle to grave.

        if you want to keep a woman bonded to you, you have to demonstrate strength of character, a willingness to walk, plus frequently plow her like there’s no tomorrow, AND be willing to occasionally listen to her whine (after making her work for it) AND keep her on her toes, and do this DAILY without ever slacking off THEN she will stay bonded to you.

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      • the idea that you do the work once and your job is done is some beta fantasy. women (and people in general) are attracted to strength. it’s that simple.

        there’s other factors, sure. like loyalty. but do you want her hanging around because she’s a loser with no options herself, or because she can’t stop thinking about you and wishes your cock was inside her at all times?

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      • Plumpjack’s got a point; the best you can do to keep “bond” is to keep being a man.

        When does a man ever have the excuse to stop being a Man?

        Do it for yourself, do it for her. Do it for the kids.

        Considering how beta so many men have gotten almost can’t blame when for not pair-bonding with them.

        They are so weak it’s almost disgusting.

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 5:45 pm Captain Obvious

        “as CO pointed out the other day, women are wired to shit test you for weakness, 24/7, from cradle to grave”

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 6:01 pm Captain Obvious

        38yo Former Carousel Queen: “Honey, I’m sorry, but I just can’t go on like this anymore. I wanna a d!vorce.”

        45yo Sh!tlord Father: “If you ever speak that word again, I will rip you limb from limb, dump your remains in a swamp, and the last creatures to see hide or hair of you will be the snapping turtles & the crayfish which will be feasting on your stinking rotting entrails. Now go make me a sammich.”

        38yo Former Carousel Queen’s Hamster: Tinglezzzezes…

        …LATER THAT EVENING…

        45yo Sh!tlord Father choke-phucking the 38yo Former Carousel Queen’s brains out of her ears, with his left hand about her throat & his massive shiv thrusting deep into her midsection, and with his right-hand fingers rubbing the sh!t outta her throbbing erect clit0ris…

        38yo Former Carousel Queen: [muffled] “Oh my gawd, I’m cumming, I’m cumming, I’M CUMMING, OH MY GAWD OH MY GAWD OH MY GAWD AAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!” [muffled]

        …NINE MONTHS THEREAFTER, IN THE LABOR & DELIVERY SUITES…

        Ch!ld #2: WAHH, WAHHH, WAAHHHHH, WAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

        [CH: Carousel Queen would be a great title for a novel. hm.]

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      • You could even do a song about it borrowing from Caribbean Queen. . .

        You don’t even have to change the first stanza:

        She dashed by me in painted on jeans
        And all heads turned ’cause she was the dream
        In the blink of an eye I knew her number and her name yeah
        Ah she said I was the tiger she wanted to tame

        Carousel Queen
        You are not quite what you seem
        All those lays they bleed as one
        Round and round just for fun

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      • It’s like I said before Trump grabbed the pussy lol ya check the pussy if it’s hot all day sure she may tear out your heart and fuck u over but she will come back lol just never marry in us I guess

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      • Don’t be thinking you can compare my wife to the woman I been hanging with it’s universes apart I can’t be there now to make sure she dont get another dude she has to do it on her own every woman I talk to here cannot even comprehend a year of being faithful never mind 6 years they all say wife cheating on me so yea different universes to what I’m dealing with here like the bitch that got out jail I stick my dick in and got another dudes nut in the half black chick which ok for her culture it might be normal for group of guys to take turns but not in mine

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      • Bitch that got out jail might get prize for most disgusting bitch in the world she is a good cuddler though and I like the body now actually but no future so I see of yea later dpimgy thing and she just always fucking another dude and thinking she a prize of some sort like wtf man why she wanted me to kill her I guess she discussed with herself too
        But whatevs man we are really different species

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      • i believe what you say when you talk about your w1fe.

        a lot of people don’t understand how loyal a girl can be. they are always dealing with crap people so they think everyone is like that.

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    • i don’t think you can fix most of the women who are already damaged.but you can be choosy and hold out for a decent girl. there aren’t as many around but they do still exist. they are your introverted girls, the bookworms, crafters, etc. who don’t seek out attention, tons of friends, partying, etc.

      you can find them at bookstores, craft stores, empty cafes that are off the beaten path.

      but in the long run this can all be changed by bringing up the next generation of girls right. only allowing fraternization with boys in groups, no formal dating until late teens, limited electronics use, keeping them busy with wholesome activities like sewing, cooking, reading, etc.

      then when they are ready you introduce them to young men who are sons of people in your peer group so they have like values.

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      • Young women that were homeschooled are generally not bitchy cuntz. Most were raised in traditional conservative homes with clearly defined gender roles and have intelligent dedicated mothers who respect their breadwinning husbands. Carousel riding is unheard of and a you will find a high likelihood of unplowed fields. Tradwife central express

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      • yeah, my lady was homeschooled for a big chunk of the time. came from a good family too.

        really does make a difference in how they turn out.

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    • Your reaction, plumpjack, that something I saw every day for the first 19-ish years of my life and several times a week since, generally, as “fantasy,” simply shows how far things have gone off the rails.

      It’s interesting that you think my mother is a “loser” because she stuck with my dad all of her life. So now being feral and incapable of attachments is being a “winner?”

      If that’s being a winner, I don’t want to win.

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      • Ironsides, my parents are “bonded” also, but that doesn’t mean my dad gets a pass on shit tests even after 50+ years. he still has to pass them regularly, otherwise his life is a living hell.

        why would a woman continue to test a man after all that time? my and other’s theory is that they can’t help it. it’s how their hindbrain gets the reassurance it needs that it’s in the safest possible place.

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      • We’ve evolved to painfully grab or slap a woman whose shit testing gets out of hand. Physicality makes those 50 years go by more smoothly.

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      • obviously you have to keep gaming them but come on.

        are we seriously going to pretend that all women are equal? that carousel riders, bitchy endlessly shit-testing feminists, and sloots are just as good an option as a low notch count sweetie who tries to please you from day one and doesn’t bust your balls every minute of the day?

        you can’t be serious

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      • that was meant for plumpjack and random guy

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      • plump jack:”I dunno about this “bonding” thing. as CO pointed out the other day, women are wired to shit test you for weakness, 24/7, from cradle to grave.”

        There was also this thing called “culture” that completely, unreservedly shamed divorce (and sluttery, and assholery, take-a-kneeism,etc)

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      • “sloots are just as good an option as a low notch count sweetie who tries to please you from day one and doesn’t bust your balls every minute of the day?

        you can’t be serious”

        I don’t consider sloots an ‘option’, but they’re not the only ones who shit test either. the stronger the woman, the more she tests her man. and that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

        sweeties may not shit test as much, but they do find ways of testing your mettle. and they have their downsides too. the sweetness can become boring after the months and years go by, and one day you might find yourself craving the testosterone-boosting company of a real, nut-busting cunt.

        [CH: sluts are for fun. damsels are for buns.]

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 6:15 pm Captain Obvious

        Cracker, what’s your relationship like with your Mother?

        ‘Cause I’ll let you in on a precious little secret of my own: My Mom throws major sh!t-tests at me at least every other day, and often every day, and I have to up the T and stare [or even shout] her down just like I do with my plates.

        IT. NEVER. ENDS.

        The Hamster will go to its grave testing your resolve & your fiber & your constitution & [above all else] your masculinity.

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      • i hear ya

        can’t speak for others but i’ve done the nut-busting cunt thing a few times and don’t care to repeat it.

        and after 11+ years with my lady, i’m still not tired of her sweetness. don’t miss the shit tests one bit either.

        also, sweetness does not mean weakness. that’s a feminist philosophy that needs to die. a woman who is still sweet, feminine, and kind despite all that life throws at her is as strong and tough as they come.

        ball busting, cunty women are not strong at all. they behave that way because they are weak.

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      • that was meant for plumpjack. was still typing when you responded CO

        as far as my relationship with my mom, it is good now. she can be a handful and tormented my dad so had a hard time with her for a long time. she also was a bad role model for what i should pick in a woman. my dad is now with a sweet lady that takes good care of him.

        i followed his example without even realizing it. spent a lot of years with bitchy women trying to manage them, pass endless shit tests. just like my dad did with mom.

        found my lady later on and saw how different it could be with a better type of woman.

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      • Cap is wrong with good woman basically no shit tests unless at beginning
        Just worried boit me really getting with ho I’m states well yea I said that chick could have my baby but she freaking didn’t even come straight to my house after jail so she can go ahead and live her life she wants to live told her I need to move on from that shit and if she wanted to be part of it she could try well she don’t want to be a part of real life she got on drugs and I don’t need another misscariage in my life

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      • yeah, most men these days think all girls are the same because that’s all they’ve ever known.

        that’s too bad because it can be a real life changer when you meet a good woman. life is so much easier, more fun, all of it.

        sad to think a lot of guys will settle for crappy girls because they think girls like that don’t exist

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      • The sad part is good woman probably get killed for making oneistake that a shitty bitch gets away with all the time because of contrast and irony

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      • Not that the wife doesn’t shit test me but yea it’s different than the woman now she doesn’t shit test me to the point of killing her cause she wants to die like the poor things here man it’s sad but anyway they aren’t that bad even the chick with other dudes nut in her pussy when I had shotgun to my throat and told her to tell me to pull trigger she said no allthough I didn’t offer any prizes I do fear if prizes involves she might of said do it

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    • Random?

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    • The only fix is the system breaking down.
      Namely the (((fiat money)) central banking system.

      Funny money is making all this perversion possible.

      It will be brutal though but it IS coming, the only REAL problem is the current (((Moneylender bastards))) instigating yet another slave money system through their willing and desperate minions.

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  17. DO THEY NOT HAVE SPERM BANKS?
    Oh wait that little vial does not come with an economic mule.

    Seems like the only way to fix this is to bring on the collapse so that these women will starve out and then, without “people like that” (and the shitlibs too) we can rebuild in a decade.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 6:18 pm Captain Obvious

      “the only way to fix this is…”

      Well, except the other way, which is to b!tch slap ’em, choke-phuck ’em, ridicule ’em, humiliate ’em, rub their cl!ts until they cum & cum & cum and make them wake permanently bow-legged from either being phucked by you or from pushing out your babies via natural vaginal delivery.

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  18. well, older guys want to get married too. At some point…eh, players?

    I guess you got to get your ducks in a row beforehand, even if you do nail down a girl who isn’t a wall victim. The goal being to marry a girl in their 20’s or very early 30’s. I guess surreptitiously move fam to a jurisdiction with a not insane family court.

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    • If a man doesn’t think it’s immoral to sleep with a woman out of wedlock, then in this culture he is absolutely insane to EVER get married. I truly don’t get it.

      Christians, sucks for us, but we were never told things would be easy.

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      • well, if I understand this correctly, 18 years of child support out of marriage is 10-15% while divorce child support is 20%+.

        So, there are incentives away from your Christ-ian teachings. You’re like the ones hiding from the Romans right now. You can game the system accordingly.

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      • I agree. It’s a kind of tragedy of the commons – someone is going to have to follow CO’s advice if we don’t want the ferals to win by default, but to do it yourself in this environment is to play Russian roulette with five chambers loaded.

        If we’re going to fix this we have to take a chainsaw to both the divorce theft industry and the Daddy State wealth transfer apparatus. Hard to see how this happens short of collapse or civil war.

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 5:34 pm Muerte aka Luciano

        lol @ following the advice of a sperg incel

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      • The point of “marriage”, i.e. the state’s enforcement of a legal contract that binds the two participants, is to optimize the child rearing environment.

        There is no other point to marriage. It’s not a religious thing. It’s not a love thing. It’s not a pair-bonding thing. It is a contract, the breaking of which is punishable by the legal system, wherein two people agree to remain together and committed to raising their children. It’s a guarantee from the other person that they won’t simply disappear (or conjugate with someone else, or spend their money on something else, or sleep all day, or whatever)

        And of course the society/state is willing to expend the resources to enforce the contract because it knows that healthy, two-parent, nuclear families are the best way to get law-abiding, tax-paying citizens. That is the return on its investment. At least, that’s how a healthy, sane society thinks.

        No-fault divorces completely destroys the rationale for marriage. It makes the contract toothless.

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    • The goal is to marry a girl the youngest possible in your jurisdiction. The younger a girl is married the more will the whole universe be centered around her husband and family, and “college”, anal rides, hypergamy,etc will be like things from other dimensions for her. Just as traditional families with honor killings are for us.

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  19. I get this sense that western society frowns on younger women marrying. Unless they are ‘diverse’ I think people would harshly judge any woman who chose to do this and so it would require a lot of courage on her part. but also, any man who tries to marry a younger woman would be accused of taking advantage of her because she hasn’t experienced life yet. of course it’s ridiculous but I believe that is how people think at the moment.

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    • http://www.boundless.org/relationships/2005/the-cost-of-delaying-marriage

      “I remember congratulating a young woman upon her recent marriage to a friend of mine and commenting perfunctorily that both of them must be very happy. She was 24 at the time. She grabbed my hand, held it, and said with emotion, “Thank you!” As it turned out, I’d been the only woman to offer her congratulations without immediately expressing worry that she’d done the wrong thing. Her single female friends had greeted her wedding announcement as a kind of betrayal. A few had managed to stammer some grudging best wishes. Her best friend nearly refused to be a br1desmaid. They simply couldn’t fathom why she’d tossed away her freedom when she was barely out of college. And she, in turn, couldn’t convince them that she really had met the man she wanted to marry, that she didn’t want to keep going out to bars in the evenings and clubs on the weekends, postponing her marriage for half a decade until she reached an age that her friends would consider more suitable.”

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      • Similar thing happened with one of my sisters. Women will sabotage one another like it’s no one’s business.

        Bitches be cold yo’.

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      • somewhere in here is a hidden message as to the old wisdom of not letting women make decisions ………….. at 24 and she is 1 out of how many of her friends actually making the right decision

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      • Crabs in a bucket. Women drag each other down to the lowest common denominator. We do this instinctively. If Woman A is doing well, she’s a direct threat to Woman B’s ability to pull a good man. The most depraved, the ugliest, the fattest, the most miserable, the most unstable woman in a group will pull the rest down to her level. This is just happening at a social level.

        It doesn’t help that the Boomer women got all the benefits of pre-war patriarchy with none of the consequences. Most older Millennial women I know tried their mothers’ advice and are now miserable. Conversations about “my career isn’t worth it” are becoming more common.

        Hopefully, the next generation learns.

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      • “Women will sabotage one another like it’s no one’s business.”
        A misogynist is a man who hates women as much as women hate one another
        “Bitches be cold yo’.”
        On a lighter note “A misogynist, a misandrist, and a feminist walk into a bar” bartender looks up and says,”What do you want to drink lady?”

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      • Libertardian, you may have to be the voice in the wilderness to counter the toxicity that’ll come from her so called friends who’ll try to undermine her marriage.

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      • 24 is alleady fucking old for a woman to marry it’s like a 60 year old dude lol

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    • You must be doing well then cynth

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  20. Had an attorney about a decade ago that put together my will/trust etc. He specifically had me set it up so it would comply with what he called the ‘Cabana Boy’ clause. He said it happens all the time, husband dies, wife meets younger man (Cabana Boy), is enthralled by his charm, and then she pisses away your children’s inheritance on boi toy.

    He also told me I’d be shocked at how many men in their early 50’s end up sleeping on friend’s couches when they get hit with a divorce out of nowhere.

    I only remember this because I found out through a mutual acquaintance a few months ago that he and his wife are now divorced. I was honestly shocked, as they would have been the last couple I’d have expected to go through that.

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    • I wouldn’t be shocked. Seen it. One poor bastard I know, he got divorce raped on his SECOND marriage. She was a good looking cougar, and most likely BPD or Bi-Polar, I met her and she had screws loose everywhere. He told me she was amazing in bed (crazy ones, right?). As for him, he’s a retired military officer, went to a great college, makes good money, thoroughly beta (then. He’s oh-so-red pilled now). 1st wife divorced him after 2 kids and about 15 years, and regrets it. She just wasn’t happy, and now she tells him what a mistake she made. They’re amicable, he’s got a good relationship with his kids. His second marriage lasted 2 years, she got his house and he had to pay for it for 3 years, I think. She also got child support, for her 16 year old kid THAT WASN’T EVEN HIS. I think that was only for a few years, too, but still. It bankrupted him. Literally. And this happened in the most conservative state in the good ol’ USofA, ALA FUCKING BAMA.

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      • like your post Major7 and remember, great in bed, [email protected]$ed in the head

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 6:30 pm Captain Obvious

        [email protected]$ed in the head”

        Uh, yeah, but then there’s that whole great in bed thang.

        A man’s gotta do whadda man’s gotta do…

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      • My divorce has cost me $500,000 liquid, plus a $500,000 house, and my credit score (future income, real property, and retirement opportunities) after a six year marriage, and I have a long way to go. And my sanity (as you all know) and my physical health.

        Even worse, it has cost my young children approximately 8,000 hours and 2,600 mornings and bedtimes they should have had with me, so far.

        Despite all of this, for now I am still my children’s hero, because of my heroic effort to stay in their lives.

        I never lied to them about Santa Clause, ghosts, or niggers. They know there are enough real monsters to worry about.

        Repeal the 19th. Women should not be allowed to be judges either.

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      • Alabama is only fair for divorce. If your wife is pretty and can turn on the waterworks, you will be screwed.

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      • Carlos, what’s the best state for men when it comes to divorce, and do you know anybody there that might be hiring

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  21. I’m pretty sure that a lot of these men are gammas, often already divorced, and the women know their SMV is headed to zero. They recognize that they’re actually an appropriate pair-match SMV-wise, but their disgust is too much. After they have the kid and fulfill their prime biological directive, they walk.

    As out h0st pointed out, the key is for these men to learn Game and avoid these traps. Gamma Huntresses will avoid men with Game like the plague.

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  22. western society discourages younger women from marrying now. a young woman who marries is seen as poor or stupid and a man who is interested in this is viewed suspiciously and accused of taking advantage of her and not allowing her to experience her life first. it makes it harder for both really.

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  23. I’ve got a cousin who went through this. Much older than me, early 50s, married a woman who was 38 or 39. He spent a small fortune on her fertility treatments so they could have 1 child. Mom filed for divorce before the kid was 2 and took him to the cleaners. He now spends his days working 12 hours and drinking until he passes out in his shitty studio apartment. He’s in his 50s, is reasonably successful in his career, and lives in a studio apartment by necessity of paying her bills as well.

    I’ve tried to talk to him and give him advice, but in his eyes I’m just a kid and don’t know anything. This was his 3rd marriage as well. You’d think he’d have learned by now.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 6:33 pm Captain Obvious

      “This was his 3rd marriage as well. You’d think he’d have learned by now.”

      No offense, but your cuz has got more serious problems than just 3 ex-w!ves.

      Fool me once, shame on you.

      Fool me twice, shame on me.

      Fool me thrice, uh, uh, uh…

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    • on October 10, 2017 at 2:12 am Maverick Wolf

      Some people are simply doomed and can’t be saved. Rollo said it also:

      “Save the ones you can, read last rites to the dying.”

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  24. There is a growing trend for younger Millennial women marrying older men (10-20 years their senior) because they have assets. I have not seen examples of resulting divorce rapes yet, but the stage is set for that. Given such an age disparity it’s a sure thing that the man will really get shafted because he will be perceived as taking advantage of the young woman.

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    • This isn’t the same thing, since a man who m4rries a woman in her 20s demonstrates he has a much higher SMV than one who m4rries a woman in her late 30s.

      And quite honestly, there’s a simple reason young women are more open to silver foxes these days: because it’s taking much longer for young men to be m4rriageable due to the sh!tty job situation we’re in. The fact that employers hire young women much more quickly than young men doesn’t help.

      (Ke$ha’s song “Dinosaur” is counterintuitively another hint that this is happening.)

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      • The shitty job situation isn’t confined just to the men, only a low percentage of women get the high-paying career-gurl jobs and the rest can look around and figure out they could do better by getting married. And it’s also true that given the cultural trend to destroy masculinity and dominance in men, the younger women have to look to the older men to find the confidence, dominance and masculinity they crave. So, while the older men that can nail down a young wife have a high SMV, assets and income, the point was that it sets the stage for divorce rape somewhere down the road when the young woman gets unhaaaaappppy..

        The OP was about fleecing, marriages that are engaged in with the goal of divorce on advantageous terms that provide cash and prizes to the woman. I’m not saying that the May-December trend is part of that trend, just saying that the opportunity is certainly there. Maybe he can hold frame, maybe he can’t.

        OTOH, we are fast approaching the kind of lawlessness that is common in South America, characterized by the phrase:

        Un sicario son mas barrato que un abbogado.

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      • “And quite honestly, there’s a simple reason young women are more open to silver foxes these days: because it’s taking much longer for young men to be m4rriageable due to the sh!tty job situation we’re in”
        Also that so many young men are living in their parents house, working part time, playing video games and tossing off to Pron. Losers

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    • Unlikely; divorce happens because they reasonably feel they can do better.

      Super rich old dudes aren’t as easy to replace, that and you can just wait a few years until they die off, so less hassle.

      And rich dudes can be serious workaholics, pretty easy to fit in an affair when your married to a guy who works 90+ hours a week.

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      • Thinking about it; seen a few summer/fall relationships where the old dude didn’t have much money. Or even an amazing amount of game, some game so not beta but not anything special.

        Which in a world of beta-cucks might be something special I suppose.

        But it’s possible that they are settling with older dudes because older dudes are willing to settle.

        Maybe even most beta-cucks nowadays don’t actually want to marry or even won’t marry the blue haired land whales with huge plugs in her ears.

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    • It’s not that cynical. Girls in my generation think our guys are pussies, and our guys realize most girls their age aren’t worth the investment. Makes sense that some girls are reaching beyond their age group in an attempt to find a mate.

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      • I frequently get interest from women younger than my adult children. Serious interest.

        Their comments are similar to yours except they’re a lot more blunt. Universally I hear that 90% of the men their age are pussies and the 10% who are not do not have any desire to commit to a relationship. Not because the girls their age are not worth the investment, but more along the lines of the MGTOW view that no woman is worth the investment in this legal environment.

        All the happy-crappy stories about the economy doing better is mostly just that. The economy sucks and plenty of women are interested in getting married rather working at a dead-end job that doesn’t pay very well.

        Noteworthy is the fact I occasionally hear bits of manosphere wisdom from them, particularly that a woman’s SMV peaks at about 23 and she needs to nail down a high-value mate while her value is highest. As a group they seem to be expanding their horizons.

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      • “It’s not that cynical.”
        Can I get an AWALT over here, or as rollo likes to say,”the female imperative ALWAYS uberallies”

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      • Cynthia. Do you have Daddy issues?

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      • We were just mentioning this the other day.

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      • Girls in your generation are actively looking for older mates?

        And here I was thinking it was all due to my charm and charisma.

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      • due to my “charm and charisma”

        no, no ………………… cash and credit

        or as tim allen likes to say, “All women are bi-sexual ……….. I buy them sh!+ and they get real sexual.”

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  25. I used to be completely against prenuptial agreements, deeming marriage too sacred to taint with the idea that divorce is an option.

    Seeing now how evilly the courts treat men, I’m considering branching out in my practice to include drafting brutal prenups favoring men.

    http://www.FuckMyFutureExWife.com isn’t taken. Yet.

    Any other ideas for a catchy URL?

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  26. Most infuriating about Spousal Support (at least in the state in which I was trained) is that it’s based on the man’s income, not the woman’s.

    The ex can remarry a billionaire but the State won’t adjust the ex-husband’s obligation, because reducing her support would be “punishing her new spouse for marrying her by forcing him to provide her former spouse’s obligation.”

    This is actually case law, settled in the courts. What planet is this?

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  27. LOL SO MUCH DEEPLY PERSONAL BUUTHURT EXCRETES FROM DIS HEAH LIVEJOURNAL U JUST KNOW ITS PROPRIETOR HAINT SO MUCH AS SEEN NON PIXELATED PUSSY FOR YEARS

    [CH: our resident pixelated pussy expert heard from. i swear this sock sounds like a motha from anotha forum.]

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  28. Do never marry, exhibit #(error_int128_too_large)

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  29. How to say this, maybe guys should only marry girls who are crazy about them. Not crazy stalk stalk (although I wonder about the rich girl who stalked me .. ) but squirt squirt cray cray for you.

    But it’s like I once told a friend, repeating what I read here…”only give 1 compliment for every 3 she give you,” to which he replied “but what if they never compliments you?” I was like, well, there’s your problem. Maybe these divorce rapees are going through the motions.

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    • no maybe about it

      the girls are absolutely going through the motions

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    • The problem with advising a man only to marry a woman who is “crazy” about him, is that five years from now (or hell, one year from now) she might not be so crazy about him. In fact, she might actively despise him. Her intense feelings of desire become transmuted into intense feelings of hatred. The (good) “crazy” becomes the “crazy crazy.” See u in court, a$$h0le!

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  30. Another side or angle to this preventable end predicament is the allowing of this crap to continue.

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    • history is littered with stories of how that always ends badly

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      • It continues because individuals don’t work and act together in a common purpose and as such the results are all manner of contemptuous social and legal outcomes.
        If history has continually shown bad endings to allowing crap living conditions, then so be it today, given humanity’s predilection toward repitition and that so few perhaps are actively investing in their neighbour’s welfare.
        Some dudes here have the advisory backs of others. I’m suggesting the same elsewhere.

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  31. on September 27, 2017 at 3:57 pm safespaceplaypen

    What these women are doing has to be some sort of racket. It’s one thing when couples meet and marry young, have a few kids and then split when the kids are teens because they grew apart. That I get.

    To be honest, I really don’t get this sh!t. Who the fcuk cares if you “grew apart?” You’re married. You made a vow. It really doesn’t matter how you feel. That’s like saying murdering someones permissible because you just “felt” it was necessary. Feelings really are unjustifiable when it comes to moral issues such as marriage, or any moral issue for that matter lol.

    “I felt like stabbing someone today” => doesn’t matter. you go to jail.

    “I felt like punching you in the face” => doesn’t matter. You pay the price.

    “I felt like [email protected] your daughter” => doesn’t matter. You get raped in prison.

    There really aren’t any excuses for divorce lol. Either (a) you stay married or (b) you break your vows, which makes you a vow breaker, which implies that you’re a sh!tty person who can’t keep his word. Really simple logic.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 5:51 pm Michael Thompson

      As a “sh!tty person who can’t keep his word” I am guilty as charged–and you are absolutely correct. Am impressed that you are able to proudly maintain the moral and ethical high ground.. I really am and good on you.

      As for the rest of us, I don’t know one person who hasn’t wracked by guilt and sadness about becoming divorced. I can say though that my ex and children are in reasonably good emotional and psychological and financial) health 10+years later.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 6:07 pm Muerte aka Luciano

      this poast kinda dumb man

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    • Matthew 10: 8 – Because of the hardness of your hearts, Moses suffered you to give a writing of divorce. But, from the beginning it wasn’t so. Jesus said – whomsoever divorces his wife except it be for fornication …

      God gives you a wife – you mileage may vary – but she was given.

      You made a vow – before God – and God means for you to keep it.

      Keep your vow – but not at the expense of being cuckolded.

      In rank order of importance are a mans dignity, his word and his husbandry.

      What hardens a woman’s heart is conspicuously absent from the scriptures.

      Start the reactor …

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    • But now it’s all about the feels. Even starting a race war is about the feels to many on both sides. How many would actually do it?

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    • Or better yet. Make it a bout the feels and most people would kill their own mother for you. Feeeeeels!

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  32. on September 27, 2017 at 3:58 pm safespaceplaypen

    What these w0men are doing has to be some sort of racket. It’s one thing when couples meet and [email protected] young, have a few k!ds and then split when the k!ds are teens because they grew apart. That I get.

    To be honest, I really don’t get this sh!t. Who the fcuk cares if you “grew apart?” You’re [email protected] You made a vow. It really doesn’t matter how you feel. That’s like saying murdering someones permissible because you just “felt” it was necessary. Feelings really are unjustifiable when it comes to moral issues such as [email protected], or any moral issue for that matter lol.

    “I felt like stabbing someone today” => doesn’t matter. you go to jail.

    “I felt like punching you in the face” => doesn’t matter. You pay the price.

    “I felt like [email protected] your daughter” => doesn’t matter. You get [email protected] in prison.

    There really aren’t any excuses for d!vorce lol. Either (a) you stay [email protected] or (b) you break your vows, which makes you a vow breaker, which implies that you’re a sh!tty person who can’t keep his word. Really simple logic.

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    • “It really doesn’t matter how you feel. That’s like saying murdering someones permissible because you just “felt” it was necessary.”
      you really haven’t been paying attention to the whole punch a notsee, hospitalize a fascist thing have ya………… and yes this is all over the commiefa(antifa) female supremacist(feminist) internetz
      so yes to emotional(women and some males john scalzi(not men) thinkers “felt” “lulz” is all that matters

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  33. on September 27, 2017 at 4:23 pm safespaceplaypen

    Also lol it was mentioned somewhere above that sometimes k!ds turn out alright after a d!vorce. This is definitely true. There are many cases. But there are MORE cases where they do not. So if we sit down and use basic utilitarian logic:

    1) we know that traditional LIFE LONG [email protected] is beneficial to raising ch!ldren around 90% of the time (more like 99% of the time, but let’s just go with 90), and

    2) we know that non-traditional [email protected] (anything to do with [email protected], d!vorcees, trannies, single m0ms, ad0ption, etc.) is beneficial to raising ch!ldren around 50% of the time, and

    3) we know that we CANNOT have both (1) and (2) simultaneously in the same nation through empirical evidence (i.e. every nation that has tried to have a lassiez faire attitude towards [email protected] results in more broken h0mes, single m0ms, [email protected] [email protected], (i.e. more non-traditional [email protected]), etc.) and through basic intuitive reasoning.

    It follows that you can either support (1) or you can support (2) but not both simultaneously (this would be the “have your cake and eat it too” kind of scenario that many tradcons/not-ugly-feminists want and that never actually plays out in reality). Furthermore, by NOT supporting (1) you are necessarily supporting (2), and vice versa. So if you DON’T support the idea that a traditional life long [email protected] is the ideal manner to raise children, then you DO support alternatives – i.e. non-traditional [email protected] This implies that you support sh!t institutions that have a success ratio of raising good k!ds to be around 33% to 50%, rather than the 90% you would find in (1).

    Put it bluntly lol, by supporting non-traditional [email protected] or by not supporting traditional [email protected], you are necessarily supporting the [email protected] raising of ch!ldren. And if that doesn’t bother you than good on you lol you’re a fully indoctrinated member of the cathedral or a moral nihilist or a retard.

    And to put it even more bluntly: if you think “but muh some k!ds turn out fine from d!vorce so that means div is ok and is not necessarily bad by any means” is a persuasive argument to you so much so that you are willing to support non-traditional [email protected] institutions => then yes, you necessarily support the [email protected] raising of ch!ldren, because on the macro level that’s always what you’re going to get lol.

    Either support an institution that churns out decent ch!ldren 50% of the time, or support an institution that churns out decent ch!ldren 90% of time. On a utilitarian basis you will choose the latter.

    [CH: the metanalyses finding that kids turn out fine after divorce only measures SES life outcomes — education. income, etc — but doesn’t consider more nebulous qualities like happiness, contentment, and self-esteem. there is an emerging field of study that is finding evidence that divorce negatively impacts those less quantitative outcomes.]

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    • Stats for kids coming through divorce okay are more like 75% of the time but point still stands.

      Either way, kids come out better with married parents.

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    • my comment above was not saying divorce is okay or acceptable for kids. obviously it’s not. the gist of my comment was how women handle the split.

      a divorced mom who gets along with the dad and co-parents with him in a reasonable way is a whole hell of a lot better than a mom who screws up so bad she is raising the kid without the dad involved at all.

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      • on September 27, 2017 at 6:30 pm safespaceplaypen

        I see what you mean. Didn’t want to come off as giving a backhanded shiv. This is just a common theme I hear from time to time from certain folks I know. They’re like “Well billy turned out fine so what’s the big deal?” missing the bigger picture in the process.

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    • my comment above did not imply in any way that divorce was okay or good for k1ds. it’s obviously not ideal.

      the gist of my comment was about how women handle the split though.

      a d1vorced mom who gets along well with the dad and co-parents in a reasonable way is a whole hell of a lot better than a woman who screws things up so bad that the dad isn’t even around

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    • Also lol it was mentioned somewhere above that sometimes k!ds turn out alright after a d!vorce.

      Not only is this mentioned a lot, but it has become crimethink to go against it in polite discourse. “Kids are resilient” and “children are better off with happy separated parents than with unhappily married parents” have become received wisdom; even 20 years ago this was a debate.

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  34. It’s just another predictable outgrowth of the left vs nature.

    Leftism, at it’s correct, functions by playing on people’s propensity towards escapism. Whether it’s careercuntism (escapism from SMV and motherhood), trannyfagism (escape from biological two-sex reproductive system), or socialism (escape from market forces), it’s just different flavors of the same Kool aid.

    By imposing these debased laws with regards to marriage, you arrive at our societal state today. Voila, liberal inversion leads to demographic death. Who would have guessed.

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  35. Uplifting anecdote: Russia which suffered moribund birth rates for decades could be on the upswing after decades long fertility push by Putin. Several Russian females I know, including one I had a passionate fling with, are 23-24, married with 2 y/o olds and newborns.

    I know I get shit from Anglo-Saxon American purists and angry Slavic men for coveting their women…but it must be done…we need to flood America, I mean FLOOD, with millions of Eastern Europeans.

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    • speaking of documentaries:

      1. there was the lawyer divorce rape one…which showed the coked up fag the court required parents to get to show “best interests of the kids” when duh.fuckface…how fucking hard is it?
      2. There’s also the russian bride one. It had its moments, the girls are hotter than the americans at issue could get. Some were clearly batting for the fences and were being used but one…or maybe two…met russian farmer barbie who was happy to be barefoot n’ pregnant in the steppes of rural Texas.
      3. I guess roosh talked about hte hot girls wanted doc but I haven’t seen it.
      4. the red pill doc for bishes which I haven’t seen.

      any other good docs to make us hate the world?

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    • We’d only throw it away. Those eastern euro women would be riding city alpha cock with contraception up to their gills in no time.

      I’m not an anglo american purist but until circumstances change slavic wombs will be best utilized under Putin’s purview.

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      • Judging from this, Russian men enjoy alpha paradise:

        (dailybeast. com)
        ‘Russia’s Single Ladies Fed Up With Country’s Useless Bachelors’

        “…The litany of complaints that Russian ladies have against their male counterparts is long: They smoke too much and drink too much. They cheat shamelessly and curse freely. They expect their girlfriends and wives to clean for them, cook for them, and to look like models. More seriously, they are often violent and feel threatened by independent, high-earning women.

        “The dating prospects are so grim, in fact, that…[many Russian women who fail to tame an alpha]…are consciously deciding to stay single. Moscow alone boasts more than 3 million single women between the ages of 25 and 50, out of a population of 11.1 million (that’s three times the number of single Muscovite men). In Russia as a whole, there are 11 million more women than men, due in part to a century of bloody revolutions, gulags, and wars that drained the country’s male population…”

        [CH: and now you know where beautiful women come from……men with options!]

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      • Well pack my bags he he he

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      • Sounds like it’s time to pay a visit to Russia.

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    • ” angry Slavic men ”

      Not you again ! Dont you understand that race, culture, and nation creates a people. If you bring these woman into the American corrupt environment, you will get the same negative result.

      I don’t mean this as an insult, but it is the western male that dropped the ball because they are ultimately afraid to die for an ideal. As the saying goes: ” If a man has not discovered something that he will die for, he isn’t fit to live. ”

      The ultimate honor is to die in defense of your people. Sadly not many American men would even think of doing that because [ insert an excuse ] . Nothing gets a pussy as moist, as seeing her man pick up a weapon to go into battle against the enemy.

      Here’s an example of Russians from Donbas. These are not professional soldiers, but truck drivers, plumbers, dentists, mechanics, I think you get the picture. Hard men + tough environments = beautiful women. Sadly right now, the US seems to have neither.

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      • on October 1, 2017 at 4:57 pm Lurker from afar

        As if chump Americans would keep those women the same. You see the opposite with EE women who move to the West. The few exceptions prove the rule.

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    • I’ve been saying this for a long time around here 🙂

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  36. I’ve been married 29 years to the feminist Waffen SS – Brearley and Bryn Mawr.

    The first three years weren’t too bad but by the time I woke up we had two kids. I came within inches of divorcing her 15 years ago but I love my kids and it was going to cost me half my sh!t plus $7,000/month.

    We’re still married because of what I’ll call Scorched Earth Game. I told her if we divorce she’d never see or hear from me again because I’d be on a different continent, a credible threat because I’d done this once before I met her. I’ve also been in semi-retirement since I was 45 because without a supportive wife you literally have nothing to work for. Anything you achieve is an incentive for divorce-rape and ashes in your mouth. So I paid the bills, my kids had a normal-ish childhood and are doing well.

    Marriage is over, gentlemen. It’s soooo 20th Century. Find a different path to happiness because marriage ain’t it.

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    • Waffen SS was a men elite combat that could only be matched for its bravery and brotherhood with a few examples in history
      It was also the first pan European armed force and therefore the precursor of white European army that will eventually emerge from this darkness
      You deserve your punishment

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  37. I think another reason the fleece divorce occurs at this period is that the women are at the pinnacle of romantic disillusionment which is exacerbated by dating older beta men who clearly have no better options and who themselves have been left behind in the dating market. It is rather insulting when you analyze it like that, thus these women are even more spiteful and unstable than typical.

    These fleecers are facing additional humiliation knowing men that aren’t good enough for them………are settling for them, further crushing their SMV. The subconscious, maybe even conscious, rage this generates results in a woman being unable to experience empathy or respect for a man who has invested in her. As far as the woman is concerned, her being forced to date such a man is worthy of reparation in the form of government sanctioned divorce rape. Her misery is a burden that must be shared…….

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 5:25 pm Muerte aka Luciano

      ya’ll depressing as fuck

      god damn.

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    • This is accurate. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard women who have achieved nothing in their professional lives complain that women always have to “marry down.” As if that sheepskin from Mt. Holyoke and a shitty job in PR means you’re a “catch.” I think a dude who dropped out of community college but can rebuild my engine like a boss is a much greater asset to society than some office dink who writes lies for a living and fudges her t&e expenses. So fuck them and their delusions. When the shit truly hits the fan, their “skeelz” will mean fuck all. And starve the institutions that make their illusions possible.

      [CH: yeah the reality is that women’s career accomplishments have nothing to do with their marital success. only beautiful women can claim with any seriousness that they always have to marry down. ugly women can only marry up and plain janes can go either way.]

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      • Or watch career gals enter that weird time in their lives when they realize their career is literally shit. Like, wow, can’t afford to eat PBJ sandwiches poor and guys are not quite there in their lives anymore either. Especially with lawyer gals who got that sweet sweet six figure student loan to pay off. There are nervous breakdowns.

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  38. Fear Of A Sexbot Planet – “Should we ban sex robots while we have the chance?”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/25/ban-sex-robots-dolls-market

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  39. Lol, I know you guys aren’t into footballz what with the “groids” n shit but I just saw a heartening tale that the semi-lovely lasses of the Lingerie League won’t be shitting on the flag. Just saying, athletic girls who don’t kowtow to PC (I’m assuming).

    Don’t marry crazy, don’t marry bitches who don’t maga. There needs to be a successful marriage database of what kinda girl isn’t going to do these awaful divorces.

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  40. One takeaway is never ever marry a woman over thirty. It would be better to stay single and use decent hookers when needed.

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  41. on September 27, 2017 at 5:45 pm Muerte aka Luciano

    tldr: islam is the only answer

    [CH: no]

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  42. Would he get less than 18 years for just killing her as soon as she said divorce?

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    • A man comes home and goes to his bench in the garage, he sits there balling his eyes out, sobbing crying, like a little five year old. Finally his wife comes home and sees him at his bench sobbing.
      The wife ask, “What’s the matter with you? Why are you crying? Don’t you know today’s our twentieth wedding anniversary?
      The man sobbing heavier answers, “YEESSSS”
      The woman persist, “So why are you crying?”
      The man still sobbing ask, “Do you remember when we got married because you got pregnant and your dad said it was either marriage or jail?
      The woman says, “YES, so why are you crying?”
      Then the man says with tears rolling down his cheeks, “BECAUSE TODAY I’D BE GETTING OUT.”

      [CH: haha]

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  43. on September 27, 2017 at 6:11 pm Lord of the Gulf Stream

    I’m starting to understand why some men kill their wives.

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    • on September 27, 2017 at 6:34 pm Captain Obvious

      You don’t need to k!ll them.

      Just choke phuck their brains out of their ears while you’re rubbing their cl!ts.

      Like every night.

      And then make sure that they push out a ch!ld nine months later.

      Natural vaginal delivery. No epidural. No caesarean.

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  44. on September 27, 2017 at 6:12 pm Lord of the Gulf Stream

    Heh, beat me to it.

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  45. jeangray07

    “any woman who chooses to let her kids grow up without a father isn’t a real mother”

    “Agreed. Even if you stand back and look at it from a coldly clinical perspective, all studies point to children only being able to reach their max potential if they are raised in a stable home with both parents. Any woman who chooses her vagina over her childrens’ well being is worthless and will inevitably die alone.”

    Good except for needing both parents. Kids raised in father-only households do practically as well as do kids with both parents. Post-weaning, it’s the presence or absence of the FATHER that’s crucial, far more so than the mother.

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  46. on September 27, 2017 at 7:17 pm Some Day My Mod Will Come

    I know two men, both military like myself, who were thoroughly raped by a psychotic former wife and a sympathetic legal system. In both cases, about the time the alimony was running out they got knocked up and married by some beta schlub, so her golden ovaries generated multiple income streams for the rest of her natural life. Yes, it’s a racket.

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  47. . “If you bring these woman into the American corrupt environment, you will get the same negative result.”

    Pravda!

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  48. on September 27, 2017 at 10:09 pm Vagina dominator

    How are you currently holding your assets anyway? Will there be anything left for the courts? Gordon T. Long interviewed on Greg Hunter.

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  49. on September 28, 2017 at 12:58 am Oleaginous Outrager

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  50. I think the reason men are marrying 30+ walled women is because the younger women are feminazi piles of fat.

    Five years ago, I moved west of the Mississippi. When I first got here, women were attractive. The average 20-ish was bangable hot. In five years, I’ve seen the young twenties become whales or the angry cunt that Heartiste showed as the fourth year college student.

    The last bastion was church. There was a time when you could trust to find wholesome girl with a bent towards submission. Now, is like a grrlpower version of a Star Wars bar scene.

    Tattoos, enough rings on their faces to hang a curtain, porky, Tammy Fay makeup models. And with the more libtard churches, you have no idea whether it’s a girl or a guy!

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  51. http://www.ddorn.net/papers/Autor-Dorn-Hanson-MarriageMarket.pdf

    When Work Disappears: Manufacturing Decline and the Falling Marriage-Market Value of Men

    David Autor, David Dorn, Gordon Hanson – July 2017

    ABSTRACT
    The structure of marriage and child-rearing in U.S. households has undergone two marked shifts in the last three decades: a steep decline in the prevalence of marriage among young adults, and a sharp rise in the fraction of children born to unmarried mothers or living in single-headed households. A potential contributor to both phenomena is the declining labor-market oppor- tunities faced by males, which make them less valuable as marital partners. We exploit large scale, plausibly exogenous labor-demand shocks stemming from rising international manufacturing competition during the period of 1990 to 2014 to test how shifts in the supply of young ‘marriageable’ males affect marriage, fertility and children’s living circumstances. Trade shocks to manufacturing industries have particularly negative impacts on the labor market prospects of men and degrade their marriage-market value along multiple dimensions: diminishing their relative earnings—particularly at the lower segment of the distribution—reducing their physi- cal availability in trade-impacted labor markets, and increasing their participation in risky and damaging behaviors. We document that adverse shocks to the supply of ‘marriageable’ men reduce the prevalence of marriage and lower fertility but raise the fraction of children born to young and unwed mothers and living in poor single-parent households.

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  52. luckily more and more guys are avoiding the trap these days as we grow smarter as a society and don’t continue to just do things because that is how things have always been done

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  53. […] I am SO glad I am outside the mating game, or rather, the mating nightmare: […]

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