Signs Of Sluttiness

There are a few red flags that tip me off about a girl’s sexual history.  I’m a big fan of loose girls as they make my job easier, but there’s no doubt a girl who has spread for you, your friends, your father, mr. ed loses some luster in my eyes.

If I take a girl back to her place for the first time and her roommates act like my presence is no big deal, I lower my opinion of her.  I’m a guy these roommates have never met before, there to engage in explicit acts of defilement, and they’re coming up to me shaking my hand all smiles and telling me to make myself comfortable and would I like anything to drink?  This is how that gets processed in my brain:

Just another guy that XXX has brought back with her.  We’re so accustomed to this by now the shock and awe has worn off.  In fact, maybe I should tell him the house rules about disposing of used condoms.

Here’s a hint, ladies.  When I go back to your place and you have roommates, I want your roomies scurrying like rats looking for a dark place to hide.  I do not want it to be the View with special male guest.  Unless your roommates are cute females open to group sex, nothing kills the passion faster than a nonchalant hippie commune vibe.

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I appreciate a girl who asks if I have a condom.  But when I don’t and she reaches into her nightstand to get one I don’t want to see six different varieties (especially Trojan Magnum) in half-empty econoboxes tumble out.  Again, this is what I’m thinking:

So you work as a condom quality control tester.  After much trial and error with repeated penetrations from an assortment of penis shapes and sizes you have zeroed in on your favorite brand.

“Happen” to have one lying around.  Ignorance is bliss.

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Spontaneous dirty talk is hot.  Sex talk that sounds like either you watch a lot of porn and are trying to mimic a pornstar (which is kinda pathetic) or it was rehearsed over and over again with many different guys until you got it just right is not hot.  I don’t want our intimacy to sound scripted.

Yeah, right there, fuck me right there.  yeah you like it there don’t you?  Oh yeah, a little harder.  Harder.  HARDER!  you want some of this?  you like my tight pussy?  stick it in me deep.  all the way in.  fuck me fuck me fuck me oh yeah i’m a bad girl aren’t i? you like a bad girl dontcha?  oh yeah your cock is soo big it feels soo good a little more like that just like that.  you love jamming it into my hot wet tight pussy…

Sometimes silence is golden.  A soft moan goes a long way.





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  1. indeed

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  2. Another sign of sluttiness? Upon penetration, it feels like you’re just another visitor.

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  3. Does any body here value virginity in a girl or expects marrying a virgin girl, or at least if she ins’t virgin that she was virgin when you initiated the relationship?

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  4. I think the cult of virginity is the stupidest thing ever. Any woman who has lived on her own is going to have a history (this includes sexual history). Any woman without a history is so sheltered she’ll bore you out of your wits.

    In other words, learn to deal or buy a Real Doll.

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  5. It seems to me that you are not a Christian Shannon. Some people say that a virgin wife is better because she will not be adulterous, because her virginity is proof that she can control her sexual urges, while other say that she will try to make up for the lost experience.

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  6. on October 29, 2007 at 5:42 pm David Alexander

    Does any body here value virginity in a girl or expects marrying a virgin girl, or at least if she ins’t virgin that she was virgin when you initiated the relationship?

    Now I understand why you’re so obsessed about having a much younger wife.

    Seriously, I really would prefer not to have a virgin wife, and it’s not an important trait for me. Sex isn’t a defiling act, but one that should be of mutual pleasure and enjoyment.

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  7. Gannon, please don’t play guess-the-religion with me. I don’t trumpet my faith. Fetishizing virginity seems like a great way to get a very sheltered, ignorant wife. Now, if two virgins want to marry each other, that’s great. But if a sexually experienced man wants to marry a virgin, it’s a sign he’s looking for someone he can push around. Blech.

    Asking about your partner’s sexual history can be good for a relationship if it is a way of opening up trust and communication. However, digging for a sexual history, then bludgeoning your partner with it is a massive red flag.

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  8. on October 29, 2007 at 6:39 pm Gunslingergregi

    I’m not sure who’s richer the guy making 600 a month that gets to marry a virgin and knows it is for life or the guy making 6 figures that doesn’t.

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  9. “Any woman without a history is so sheltered she’ll bore you out of your wits.”

    99% of women do that anyway.

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  10. “I’m not sure who’s richer the guy making 600 a month that gets to marry a virgin and knows it is for life or the guy making 6 figures that doesn’t.”

    Is this a trick question?

    The answer is neither. The guy who doesn’t get married is richer, and he’ll get to bang the virgin wife on the side.

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  11. I don’t want to see six different varieties (especially Trojan Magnum)

    So, shacking up with my leftovers are we??

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  12. this probably opens a whole other can of worms but:

    Gannon – explain to me why a woman must control her sexual urges while a man does not/cannot/will not?

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  13. Shadi, a woman is wired much differently than a man sexually. Just pick up any evolutionary psychology text.

    http://www.drmillslmu.com/Sexdiffs/spr03/Townsend-summary-042403.htm

    “[A woman]’s sexual desire fluctuates throughout her life. It is discontinuous. Women can go weeks, months, and even yeas without sexual activity. Women don’t need that stimulation of the genitals as men so often crave. Their sexual desire as well as activity can be high one day and low another. This irregularity is not found within males.”

    “Men are focused on the stimulation of genitals and having an orgasm. Women can often become side tracked during intercourse. Women need the internal feeling of feeling loved, wanted, and appreciated.”

    Etc. As a woman I can definitely relate to these words.

    Read down the middle of this link:

    http://www.drmillslmu.com/Sexdiffs/spr01/panel4.htm

    “Men often refuse to date women whose physical features do not meet their standards, regardless of how ambitious and successful the women are in their careers. In their part, women are rarely willing to date or have sexual relations with men who have lower socioeconomic status than they do, despite the men’s looks and physiques.”

    Also:

    “The different reproductive strategies of men and women have been a central feature of our evolution, and our sexual behavior and reproduction are mediated by our sexual psychology- the emotions, desires, fears, and aversions that motivate and channel our sexual behavior.”

    For these reasons a woman who controls her sexual urges fares better evolutionarily speaking than a woman who does not. The opposite is true of men. This is the reason for much gender conflict.

    Rape also plays into this, but that’s opening a bigger can of worms. For the sake of brevity, let’s just say that a smart woman does not have sex with every man she *can* have sex with, and even with contraceptions, it would be going against a woman’s natural impulses to do so.

    Then again, humans go against what is natural all the time. The dumb ones also get to leave a big footprint in the gene pool.

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  14. Hope – i’m studying psychology. i certainly agree with the resource above but it is *evolutionary* psychology and therefore very generalized, and the emphasis is more on how humans have *evolved* (and are still evolving) over time. it is great info for the sake of argument, (same argument my parents use on me to get hitched quickly because my eggs will rot after a certain point), but, in my opinion, it is not reasonably applied in western society anymore, let alone in the year almost-2008.

    if i conduct my own research experiment (i am very compelled), i would challenge the “regularity of sexual drive among males” vs. “irregularity of sexual drive among females.” (all the other facts you mentioned aside). i have known men and women who “need” to fulfill their sexual desires the same amount where men choose to act on it and women do not. i have also know many women who have acted on sexual urges as well and men have chosen not to. also, i just find it so hard to believe that a man has more of a sexual drive than a woman just because it has been an evolutionary process to spread their seed or disseminate their genetic material – women have not always expressed their desires openly until kinsey’s surveys came about; also, women were obviously discouraged to act on sexual urges b/c they are more prone to diseases and can get pregnant. and don’t get me started on how sex drive differs between men and women; men have been wired (socially and physiologically) to be “jump started” must faster. their sex drives are simpler and, thus, fulfilled easier. still doesn’t convince me that they have *more* of a sex drive.

    yes, on average, men ask for sex more often than women (and get turned down more often). but i have seen occasions where a man couldn’t keep up with the woman. just sayin’.

    bottom line: men and women both need sex, and good sex will keep both of them happy.

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  15. Shadi–

    Are you really that stupid as to think that evolution is going to change things over the short span of our lifetimes?

    If you’ve seen “occasions where a man couldn’t keep up with the woman” you are very lucky indeed.

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  16. but i have seen occasions where a man couldn’t keep up with the woman.

    People have seen meteor showers too. That doesn’t mean they happen every night. Plus that “freaky” girl who is always “down” for sex turns into a “pathetic” girl who is always “begging” for sex pretty fast. Then before you know it you’re waking up in the middle of the night with her sitting there staring at you.

    men have been wired (socially and physiologically) to be “jump started” must faster. their sex drives are simpler and, thus, fulfilled easier. still doesn’t convince me that they have *more* of a sex drive.

    How are we defining “drive” here? A need to do something? Like, say, eat? If you’re really hungry, does it take more for you to begin the process of eating than someone else who is equally hungry?

    bottom line: men and women both need sex, and good sex will keep both of them happy.

    What an astute observation. Thanks for “bottom lining” it for us. So when do you graduate again?

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  17. on October 30, 2007 at 12:02 am Days of Broken Arrows

    Regarding the male and female sex drives: Anecdotes that disprove the general theory do not make the rules.

    The fact is, if men’s and women’s sex drives are equal, women would behave like men and there would be screwing in the streets, everywhere all the time. And what about adolescence? Guys are ejaculating five-six times a day, obsessed with sex, and women…well, I dunno what they do, but it’s not what we do!

    This is stupid to even argue. There are those female sex columnists who like to argue men and women’s sex drives are exactly the same, but they live in fantasyland, or just want to play at exhibitionism.

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  18. on October 30, 2007 at 12:21 am David Alexander

    Yes, I know I’m hated here, but the past few posts have raised an interesting question. If the male sex drive is “stronger” for lack of a better term when compared to the female’s, then why bother with women and getting married and the rest? This may admitttedly sound silly, but it makes living alone and masturbating seem enticing? Seriously, there has to be some benefit to long-term relationships since sex doesn’t seem to be one of them.

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  19. I don’t hate you. In fact, I’m trying to show you the error of your ways.

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  20. david..im a lover not a hater..:-)
    xoxo

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  21. considering the majority of the readers/commentors on this site are male, your responses don’t even surprise me.

    the guys here aren’t even capable of carrying a debate; do you feel more manly/alpha/dominant when you insult someone you disagree with? particularly a woman?

    aww, i suggest you release some tension. DA seems to have the idea on how to do that.

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  22. “I think the cult of virginity is the stupidest thing ever. Any woman who has lived on her own is going to have a history (this includes sexual history). Any woman without a history is so sheltered she’ll bore you out of your wits.

    In other words, learn to deal or buy a Real Doll.”

    Amen. Human rights abuses around the world, from genital mutilation to honor killings, have been about suppressing sex in women. The societies that are the most paranoid about the virginity of their females treat the fallen girls the worst and have terrible conditions for prostitudes.

    Look, I’m not saying I’m crazy about slutty girls, but these beliefs are PURELY based on our evolutionary irrationality. How can a guy refuse to committ to a girl after a one night stand, while also trying to get the one night stand at the same time? Hypocrite.

    But at the same time, while I know my desire for a nonpromiscous girl is irrational, I sympathize with it too.

    I wish all girls became enlightened, and all the resources that men put into gaining social status to get laid (cars, houses, yachts, bling, dating coaches) would go instead into curing world poverty or something. But alas, we are human and flawed. If reason was really that powerful, then we wouldn’t have religion anymore. But we do.

    Regardless, kudos on the signs. Very interesting information to have, though it may be better to enjoy the experience with the girl rather than worry about who else she’s been with.

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  23. “in my opinion, it is not reasonably applied in western society anymore, let alone in the year almost-2008.”

    Shadi, I was not born in the West, but I am living in the U.S. and received an American upbringing. Yes, it is great that women here have the ability to express their sexuality much more so than women in other cultures. However, it is a double-edged sword (as pointed out — the madonna/whore dichotomy). It’s not only some men that dislike sluts — remember that many women are also proponents of feminine behavior and dislike the competition posed by overly sexually aggressive women.

    You dispute the science of “regularity of sexual drive among males” vs. “irregularity of sexual drive among females.” I would agree with you that it is a bit too narrowly defined. Men can experience periods of sexual lows due to a variety of factors, including drugs, alcohol, sleep deprivation, etc. Also, I am actually very regular in my sex drive. Since I started tracking my menstral cycle, I notice that when I am ovulating my sex drive reliably goes up.

    “i have seen occasions where a man couldn’t keep up with the woman. just sayin’.”

    The outliers you speak of, women with higher sex drives, tend to be women with the ability to orgasm regularly from sex. In this regard they are more masculine in their sex drives. Many women, myself included, cannot orgasm from intercourse. Of course I would love to be able to do so, just like I’d love to be as strong as a man, but that just wasn’t in the cards. Sexual dimorphism and physio/psychological differences between the genders persist through the hundreds of thousands of years of human existence, and we are the evidence that our ancestors left behind to prove that they were successful, men and women respectively.

    Sex drives necessarily exist in both men and women. Without such urges we would not perform the acts necessary to produce offspring. Remember the line from Fight Club about the pandas that wouldn’t fuck to save their own species? Humans in general have no problem in this regard.

    So you ask why should females control their sexual urges? It’s really just sensible. While women no longer require a man to be around to raise the kids in such times of civility and bounty, for most of history that was frequently not the case. And even today, eggs are expensive, and sperms are cheap. At the bare minimum to sire progeny: 9 months of incubation and labor for the woman vs. perhaps not even the need to reveal his identity for the man. Of course, more and more, people are opting out of having children altogether. I’m troubled by this trend, particularly among women because — as those who espouse shagging young girls love to point out — our window of reproductive viability tends to be smaller.

    In any case, I can’t convince you (or myself, even) that women shouldn’t be able to simply act on her sexual impulses as she pleases, if men don’t need to do so. However, giving women so much leverage (and supposed “equality” with men in sex) leads down a dangerous slippery slope — would you want practically every man out there to never control his impulses either? To shag every willing woman that comes along? To even resort to violence and rape in order to satisfy his sexual cravings? Please, I hope your answer is no.

    “good sex will keep both of them happy.”

    I would re-think your belief that the ability to do random fucking for women is being “liberated.” It may be that other shackles blind you from seeing the harms done to women in this supposed sexual liberation, STDs notwithstanding (HPV, which is quite common, causes far more harm to women’s fertility than men’s).

    It is, again, natural human arrogance that leads us to stare biology in the face and spit. We use contraceptives and spend our lives childless, going from bed to bed, ever chasing after another high, until we’re spent and empty. Carpe diem sounds awfully tempting — to lead a gluttonous and epicurean lifestyle sans consequences — but is it really such a great life? We still have the same brains that we possessed thousands of years ago, but what else is more human than to believe we are better than even our former selves? In so many ways we still act according to these impulses.

    It’s been postulated that soon, the only people left will be the fanatically religious who will procreate. It’s also been said that the planet cannot support much more human growth. Thinking about the future is a bit depressing. This is a bit arrogant of me, but I’d much rather see more intelligent people in general had more children. That doesn’t seem to be in the cards either.

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  24. “However, giving women so much leverage (and supposed “equality” with men in sex) leads down a dangerous slippery slope — would you want practically every man out there to never control his impulses either? To shag every willing woman that comes along? To even resort to violence and rape in order to satisfy his sexual cravings? Please, I hope your answer is no.”

    This is absolutely ridiculous reasoning. What problem do you have with two consenting adults engaging in behavior that harms no one?

    I understand the evolutionary psychology behind your reasoning, and I agree with it. But realize. HUMAN GENES ARE OUT OF DATE. All your proving is that there should soon develop a need to create medicines to increase female sex drive. I mean, nothing humans do is “natural” anymore. Why should our sex lives be governed by a moral system from the middle ages?

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  25. Shadi, I was not born in the West, but I am living in the U.S. and received an American upbringing.

    Hope, just out of curiosity, what is your ethnicity? It may play some role in determining your viewpoint.

    Many women, myself included, cannot orgasm from intercourse. Of course I would love to be able to do so, just like I’d love to be as strong as a man, but that just wasn’t in the cards.

    I know women who’ve said that condition is due to being in a poor mental state for sex or poor partners, but this brings up a crucial question. If most women cannot orgasm through sex, then why do women engage in any sexual activity at all? It’s the corollary to my unanswered question of why should men have sex with women who don’t enjoy sex or have low sex drives.

    Of course, more and more, people are opting out of having children altogether. I’m troubled by this trend, particularly among women because

    This is a bit arrogant of me, but I’d much rather see more intelligent people in general had more children. That doesn’t seem to be in the cards either.

    As I’ve stated before, the cost of raising children in the Western world has spiked up so much that it’s become burdensome to have more than one or two children for most middle class families. To have any more kids takes such a hit on the income due to lost wages and the intensive resource needs to ensure your kids reach their maximum potential has created a situation where smart people have done the calculations and have determined that having children is just too expensive for them. Sure, maybe I’d like to have three kids, but there’s no way my future wife and I can afford the house, Catholic School, and college for three children.

    We use contraceptives and spend our lives childless, going from bed to bed, ever chasing after another high, until we’re spent and empty. Carpe diem sounds awfully tempting — to lead a gluttonous and epicurean lifestyle sans consequences — but is it really such a great life?

    I don’t know. To have lots of stuff, a big bank account, beautiful home, exotic vacations, access to hot women (or men), and to be around the highest ranking people in the world just simply having fun? I don’t see why not if it’s the lifestyle for them. Nobody put a gun to your head to become like them, and nor should you do the same to them. If you want them to have kids, then you’re going to have to figure a way to convince these people that having big families is the cure to a problem that doesn’t exist for them.

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  26. Shadi – are you trying to say that women should’nt use restraint, or that men should? I’m not sure what you are implying.

    Anyway, I love these “liberated” feminists who have created a situation where many educated women now think that fucking random guys through their 20’s is a good lifestyle to lead. Judging from surveys done of college women, this lifestyle isn’t fulfilling and they really only get into it because it’s now the norm and men don’t need to ask them on dates. They want some companionship, and they will take what they can get. It harms their future relationship attitudes, not to mention the danger of STD’s, currently rising in college students (alcoholic slutty girls do not use protection 100% of the time).

    Biology is one thing, but if a woman is intelligent, she would realize that even in today’s society, it makes much more sense for a woman to only sleep with a long-term relationship. Unfortunately, many do not realize this. So guys have a situation where, just like for a long time, there are girls you “fuck” and girls you “marry”. Difference is, nowadays the former group is larger than the latter. The American young attractive women worthy of marriage are harder to find than they used to be.

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  27. considering the majority of the readers/commentors on this site are male, your responses don’t even surprise me.

    the guys here aren’t even capable of carrying a debate; do you feel more manly/alpha/dominant when you insult someone you disagree with? particularly a woman?

    This comment is priceless. Do you feel more womanly/alpha/dominant when you insult someone you disagree with? (by dismissing their opinion based on their gender)

    Again, when you do you graduate?

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  28. jack & hope, i should have clarified: in my opinion, the evolutionary and biological theories don’t justify or excuse men sleeping around with as many partners as they want anymore. this isn’t caveman times, folks. it is particularly insulting to my intelligence for a man to simply state: “i am a man, i have more sexual urges than you, therefore i should act on them and you, woman, should not act on YOUR sexual urges.” to me, a male slut is no different than a female slut, and they shall deserve and expect each other’s experiences (and i shudder to even use that word in the first place).

    among the most important things that differentiate us human beings from animals is self-control, will power and the restraint NOT to hump the first available female that comes along. perhaps that is too idealistic of an expectation from men – particularly the male readers on this site.

    i speak for myself, and myself only, when i say that i believe women can have as much or more of a sexual drive or desire to have sex than men do. it is rare, but possible. if women are expected to be more selective, not act on *everysingleurge*, then i believe men should be expected to do the same.

    hope:

    Many women, myself included, cannot orgasm from intercourse. Of course I would love to be able to do so, just like I’d love to be as strong as a man, but that just wasn’t in the cards.

    1 – it is unfortunate that you have given up on orgasming during intercourse. i hope you still try by other means.
    2 – i never claimed that a woman can attain sexual satisfaction the same way a man does, but why should she not pursue that satisfaction by whatever means necessary if her man is guaranteed satisfaction regardless?

    would you want practically every man out there to never control his impulses either? To shag every willing woman that comes along?

    1 – i never implied this.
    2 – my issue is that men often use “impulses” as an excuse to shag every willing woman that comes along.

    I would re-think your belief that the ability to do random fucking for women is being “liberated.” It may be that other shackles blind you from seeing the harms done to women in this supposed sexual liberation, STDs notwithstanding (HPV, which is quite common, causes far more harm to women’s fertility than men’s).

    1 – i never implied this.
    2 – again, my issue is men that use biology or “higher sex drive” to justify random fucking with women. the liberation that i think women should seek and achieve here is in equal pleasure and enjoyment, and the *possibility* that they desire the same end result that men do. disease is spread by both women and men (i agree it is no coincidence that certain sexual disease is more harmful to women) which is why, again, i think women and men should be equally selective.

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  29. roissy: controversial, i told you. i hope you find this entertaining 🙂

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  30. “This is absolutely ridiculous reasoning. What problem do you have with two consenting adults engaging in behavior that harms no one?”

    None whatsoever. You missed the slippery slope part of my point, which is that men should and already do exercise restraint on their sex drives, and it’s a fallacy to say that men do not hold back their urges to fuck women that they want to fuck.

    “Hope, just out of curiosity, what is your ethnicity? It may play some role in determining your viewpoint.”

    I’m Chinese. I believe that I do hold some more traditionalist Asian female viewpoints, and I have read in other places that Asian women tend to date for marriage rather than for random flings. Go from there, I guess.

    “If most women cannot orgasm through sex, then why do women engage in any sexual activity at all?”

    Various texts will tell you that it’s for pair bonding and emotional expression, and that this is why women have trouble separating sex from love. I’m one of those women who refuse to have sex with a man unless I know beyond a doubt that he’s in love with me. Also, an orgasm is not necessarily the end all and be all. It still feels good for both people, it’s exciting, and it’s one of life’s pleasures. Even though I cannot have an orgasm through sex, I am still a very sexual person, love giving, and love having sex with my husband.

    “To have any more kids takes such a hit on the income due to lost wages and the intensive resource needs to ensure your kids reach their maximum potential has created a situation where smart people have done the calculations and have determined that having children is just too expensive for them.”

    I’ve done the calculations, and I agree (although I’m sorely tempted by the option of egg donation). I’m amazed my mother didn’t just give me up for adoption, given how expensive I was to raise. I do believe that having kids transforms most people though, so much so that they literally glow with adoration and fondness for their little brats. People like you and me cannot understand, since we don’t have kids. But it’s obviously another evolutionarily advantageous genetic trait to want children and to care for them.

    “To have lots of stuff, a big bank account, beautiful home, exotic vacations, access to hot women (or men), and to be around the highest ranking people in the world just simply having fun?”

    Time and again, social scientists have noted that material goods do not necessarily make people happy. Some of the happiest folks on this planet live in tribal societies, and they tend to have very tight social bonding. The modern “rich” life that you describe is characterized by superficial interpersonal relationships, constant spending to keep up with the latest fads, and often a lack of trust and true friendships. Not saying that I experience great fulfillment in life either, but none of those things you mentioned survive death like genes or actual legacies (in terms of fame/infamy or great deeds; this is part of the reason why I suspect the super billionaires are contributing so much to charity).

    “The American young attractive women worthy of marriage are harder to find than they used to be.”

    I hear quite a few women bemoan the same about quality men, although some of them perhaps aren’t up to the American cultural standard of beauty. That’s the thing I find interesting — makeup, dieting, clothing and cosmetic surgery have made it possible for an ugly woman with great personality to be transformed into a beauty. Which brings me to this quote:

    “All your proving is that there should soon develop a need to create medicines to increase female sex drive. I mean, nothing humans do is “natural” anymore. Why should our sex lives be governed by a moral system from the middle ages?”

    With various technological advancements, a woman can look more beautiful than her genes would normally express, artificially giving them more value and therefore more opportunities on the sex market. Some men tend to balk at this. Also, I don’t disagree that there should be medicines to increase the female sex drive, but as one astute observer once pointed out — it’s far easier to create a sex robot to please a man than it is to create one to cater to women. We simply demand the impossible.

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  31. Shadi, the problem may have been that the way you posed your question implied to me that women should be free to be as slutty as men are, which admittedly was due to my own (somewhat libertine) views on sexual relations.

    “disease is spread by both women and men (i agree it is no coincidence that certain sexual disease is more harmful to women) which is why, again, i think women and men should be equally selective.”

    Perhaps so, but perhaps not. For example, this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/books/chapters/0708-1st-land.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

    I find this article interesting, as it some hidden costs to being too selective. I’m rather clear-eyed about the possibility of, say, my husband sleeping with another woman, and I’d much rather that it’s with a randomly available woman than a prostitute, who would have a much higher chance of AIDs. The pool of women willing to have random sex now is much larger now than previously, which means men aren’t all sleeping with the same few extremely slutty women.

    “Imagine a country where almost all women are monogamous, while all men demand two female partners per year. Under those circumstances, a few prostitutes end up servicing all the men. Before long, the prostitutes are infected; they pass the disease on to the men; the men bring it home to their monogamous wives. But if each of those monogamous wives were willing to take on one extramarital partner, the market for prostitution would die out, and the virus, unable to spread fast enough to maintain itself, might well die out along with it.”

    I kind of dig that logic.

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  32. I have a sex drive that matches every man I have slept with and dated. The difference is I’m the one left “holding the bag” should one of those one-tailed gene-bags fertilize an egg. Do I want be a single mother? No. Do I want to pass on a crippling IQ to my offspring b/c I was too drunk and horny to control myself one night for a hot body? No. Do I want to get HPV? No. Do I know the difference between bad sex (aka average sex) and great sex? Yes. Can I smell within 10 yards which guys will be good lovers and bad lovers? Yes. Do I exercise self control? Yes. Do I masturbate a lot? Yes.

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  33. I’m Chinese. I believe that I do hold some more traditionalist Asian female viewpoints, and I have read in other places that Asian women tend to date for marriage rather than for random flings. Go from there, I guess.

    That probably does explain certain things. In contrast, I’m from the Caribbean with some French ancestry. 🙂

    Various texts will tell you that it’s for pair bonding and emotional expression, and that this is why women have trouble separating sex from love.

    I’ve read things to that effect, but isn’t it possible to create the same bonds without sex? Sex seems like a highly bizzare way of expressing love and care towards somebody.

    Also, an orgasm is not necessarily the end all and be all. It still feels good for both people, it’s exciting, and it’s one of life’s pleasures. Even though I cannot have an orgasm through sex, I am still a very sexual person, love giving, and love having sex with my husband.

    If you’re not having an orgasm thru sex, then how would you know about an orgasm? 🙂

    The first time I had sex, I didn’t orgasm, so I actually felt cheated out of an orgasm. Maybe my limited sexual experience and masculine viewpoint cloud my judgement, but I think of the orgasm as the important part of sex. If my partner doesn’t orgasm, I feel that I’ve done something wrong that is preventing her from enjoying the experience. Sex without orgasm feels pointless and the best comparison would be exercise while masturbating and failing miserably at both tasks. I guess I just can’t see sex without orgasm and a sexual woman sans orgasm from sex.

    I’m amazed my mother didn’t just give me up for adoption, given how expensive I was to raise. I do believe that having kids transforms most people though, so much so that they literally glow with adoration and fondness for their little brats. People like you and me cannot understand, since we don’t have kids. But it’s obviously another evolutionarily advantageous genetic trait to want children and to care for them.

    I’ll agree that having children changes many people, but unlike in previous generations where children magically fell from the sky as unplanned events, children are effectively things that are “scheduled” into our life plans especially due to their high resource utilization. Most people want to have children when their careers are stable and they’ve achieved their “young” life goals which delays children for some into their 30s and 40s. Plus, it just seems like intelligent people are just too afraid to have children. I’ve become a virtual chicken little about the potential IQ of my own children after learning that IQ is genetic and blacks have a lower average IQ. I’d imagine there are some who fear peak oil, global warming, and the terrorists.

    Time and again, social scientists have noted that material goods do not necessarily make people happy.

    I guess I indulge myself in material goods because it’s way for me to “compete” with and buy the affections of others, and in some strange way, those goods fill a whole that certain friends and family weren’t filling.

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  34. Roissy: considering that they are just taking you home for sex, considering that for them you are just another guy – one of many – considering the your intimacy with them is, in fact, scripted, and considering that the obvious sluttiness does not seem to make you back out of sex and run home: why would they bother to maintain the illusion that you are somebody special and that the situation is somehow unique?

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  35. There was this rich older man who was absolutely obsessed with marrying a virgin. So obsessed, in fact, that he paid big money to have a 10-year-old orphan girl raised by monks in a remote monastery until she reached the age of 18, at which point he took her from the monastery and married her. That way he would be guaranteed to have a virgin bride.

    As they prepared for bed on their wedding night, the rich man took out a tube of lubricant. “What’s that?” asked his new young bride.
    “It’s something to make things smooth so I won’t hurt you,” the rich man replied.
    “No need for that,” the girl said. “Just use a little spit … that’s what the monks did.”

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  36. I know some girls who only have anal sex because they want to keep their virginity as a gift for their future husbands.

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  37. Gannon, sex is sex, and anal sex is particularly not for amateurs — without proper lube, small tears caused by anal sex can be conduits for all sorts of STDs. In that sense, it’s more dangerous and potentially harmful than vaginal sex. This is just the sort of foolishness caused by “abstinence only” sex education and hard-line repressiveness.

    Virginity is not a “gift”. Men who can’t deal with so-called-tarnished sexually experienced women are wholly unequipped to deal with a real relationship. A true relationship requires love, respect, and the ability to overlook your partner’s imperfections. Virgin-or-bust is a way of taking one trait and blowing it out of proportion.

    As an aside, of the men posting here – are any of you married, or have been married?

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  38. the dude quotes Tori; that must account for something.

    Hide the magnums! I concur.

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  39. As an aside, of the men posting here – are any of you married, or have been married?

    Me.

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  40. As an aside, of the men posting here – are any of you married, or have been married?

    Me.

    I’ve just skimmed through the comments, but Hope makes lots of sense.

    “Pro-sluttiness” women who post here seem unaware of the tremedous costs that libertinism had on society.

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  41. “Pro-sluttiness” women who post here seem unaware of the tremedous costs that libertinism had on society.

    What costs? Everybody here who blathers on about the pre-1960s world seems to think they’d all score hot looking women. I’d imagine that the vast majority of posters here would end up with so-so looking women, boring sex, and you’d complain about your stay at home wives and children draining your income while the alphas get the hot wives and mistresses. At least today, I can hold out for the girl that I want without being socially ostracized, and she can support herself through her own income and effort.

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  42. I hate the word “slutty”, unless it’s applied to both men and women equally. There are consequences for every action, and I’m sick and tired of women always having to be the sexual gatekeepers. Men, you have brains and moral compasses, too. Step up to the plate and use them!

    Men, if you have a one-night stand with a woman, then despise her for it, you are nothing more than a foul little disgusting weak-willed hypocrite. You were there too, you know. You can dress it up as natural urges, spreading the seed, whatever, but you still made a choice. And you cannot despise someone for making the same choice that you did. Step up. Be a man. Take responsibility.

    And to bring things full circle, if you are not a virgin, and you want to marry a virgin, you are a hypocrite as well. Don’t ask someone for what you yourself can’t deliver.

    And I’m not letting women off the hook. In the end, each of us are responsible for what we do with our bodies. Your body is the express lane to your soul, and it needs to be treated with care and respect.

    But, for the love of all things sensible and kind, don’t put virginity on a pedestal. Don’t idealize the things that don’t matter. Cake: you can have it or eat it, not both.

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  43. “This is just the sort of foolishness caused by “abstinence only” sex education and hard-line repressiveness.”

    Shannon, I think the comment you made in #37 was unfair to abstinence education. It most certainly doesn’t promote or hint at promoting anal sex as a mode of chastity! Nor does it fetishize virginity for women but not for men.

    As for repressiveness, well, I suspect you’re right that preserving “virginity” through anal sex is a relic of a certain kind of repressiveness – but not specifically a Christian one, and certainly not an American form of repressiveness. Gannon lives in Latin America, where I’m sure that attitude is much more common. I doubt very much that any young woman in the US preserves herself intact by this method. (Some may do so with oral sex and other similar forms of sexual contact.)

    BTW, the idea that virginity is in itself a prize – so much so that to lose it by any means, even by force, is a personal shame – is actually pagan rather than Christian. When Rome was under constant threat of barbarian invasion, St Augustine wrote against the idea that rape was so shameful for the victim that her only honorable choice was to commit suicide. That’s not specifically concerned with virginity, of course, but it is related. See, in many pagan traditions, including the Roman one, virginity was a possession to be given to a woman’s husband, not a mark of purity, and so it didn’t really matter how it was lost; once it was gone, it was gone, and the woman was soiled and damaged goods. (The Romans were not particularly interested in what Christians came to call purity, but they did expect girls to marry as virgins.) This particular pagan idea was one with a long history – deeply rooted in the human psyche as it probably is – and it endured, especially in southern Europe, long after Christianity had become nearly universal. People probably intuitively regard the womb and birth canal with a kind of mystical awe because of their association with the origins of life.

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  44. “Shannon, I think the comment you made in #37 was unfair to abstinence education. It most certainly doesn’t promote or hint at promoting anal sex as a mode of chastity! Nor does it fetishize virginity for women but not for men. ”

    Abstinence education provides misleading and inaccurate information (for example, it wildly overstates the failure rates of condoms). Kids are more savvy than we give them credit for. If we lie to them, they know it, and then they stop listening to us.

    In an information vacuum, people make stuff up. Rumors fly. Gossip prevails. It’s human nature. So, yes, there are kids out there who believe anal sex is ok because it preserves virginity. There are also kids who believe you can’t get pregnant the first time you have sex, and that you can’t get pregnant by a boy who drinks Mountain Dew. (We call those kids, “teenage parents.”)

    There’s a world of sexual stupidity out there, and abstinence education is one of its toadies. Having an open, intelligent, loving discussion about sex is far more successful than “abstinence only” scare tactics and stonewalling.

    Plus, I kind of crack up at the idea of a “mystical womb.” It’s one thing to have an appreciation for women as bearers of new life, it’s another to view us as somehow superhuman because of it. That leads to the whole fetishization of virginity that I was talking about earlier – people are people, and we need to break through the pagan silliness. Let’s demystify these things.

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  45. What the Fuck! Did anyone else besides me notice this when David Alexander in comment 33, droped this line, ” I’ve become a virtual chicken little about the potential IQ of my own children after learning that IQ is genetic and blacks have a lower average IQ.” WOW. What a fucking racist! I won’t even get into it. But how would he explain,” Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of any immigrant group in the United States with higher levels of completion than the stereotyped Asian American model minority. Source Wikipedia. David Alexander, you are an ignorant motherfucker.

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  46. Shannon – women ARE the moral gatekeepers. Feminists like you have tried to get rid of that role for 40 years with disastrous consequences for society (higher illegitimacy rates, higher crime rates, higher drug abuse rates, etc.). Men and women each have a role and expectations. Women’s role is to be nurturing and moral. It is their natural rold as the bearer of children. It is not men’s natural role – ours is to lead and be strong, and to fight when necessary. So accept your role and succeed at it.

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  47. Very interesting subject, not discussed much even in men’s magazines. Of course, you put your inimitable “Roissy” stamp on it, of having had huge amounts of experience with all kinds of women… I unfortunately cannot claim to have that kind of breathtaking range of experience.

    Although I like a wide variety of body types (except for fat), I see the appeal of the ultra-feminine body. However, why is it that this type of idealized woman has rarely taken an interest in me?

    Usually what I get is the “amazon” types… the athletes, the runners, the swimmers. Yes, they’re toned, but they’re not the ideal, “Raphaelite” female. I think I have yet to have my experience with that kind.

    Also, have any “shorter” guys noticed this… I am 5’8″ (not really short, but in the DC area, I was definitely considered short)… Cute shorter girls (say, 5’5″ and under) were never really much interested in me. By contrast, taller, amazon-like women (5’8″ and up) in my experience, have much fewer no qualms about my being on the short side.

    What about height people, and how it figures into male-female relations and attraction….?

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  48. Sorry, meant to post that one in the “Sex Machine” thread…

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  49. You’re a guy who goes out looking to pick up women who are susceptible to certain types of manipulation and are willing to sleep with someone they’ve only known for a matter of hours, and you’re surprised they’re slutty? That’s like going fishing in a pond with worms for bait and being surprised that you landed a catfish instead of a swordfish.

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  50. My general impression of abstinence education is not that it lies, or overstates the failure rate of condoms, which after all can be quite high, especially among the inexperienced. I know several people, too, who have become pregnant as the result of condoms breaking. And they were not inexperienced, as it happens.

    Certainly there’s a great deal of sexual misinformation out there, but I’ve found it to be surprisingly common even among people who are otherwise sophisticated and well-informed. On the other hand, if there really are people wandering around today believing that you can’t get pregnant by a boy who drinks Mountain Dew, then I fear that the best sex education in the world is unlikely to help them much. In any case, I believe most teenagers who become pregnant today do so either because they want to, naively thinking of the baby as a kind of toy, or a route to independence (via income supplements, etc.), or because they are ambivalent about actually having sex (very common among young girls, I suspect), and so don’t acknowledge to themselves that they are doing so until it’s too late. It’s not ignorance that’s the problem, in other words. Sex education programs that fail to discuss or even acknowledge this kind of ambivalence (which is to be found in both sexes) are every bit as culpable as parents and schools that keep the young in ignorance.

    I’m not certain I understand the opposition to abstinence education in principle, since there is no reason why it should be impossible to encourage abstinence until teens reach a suitable age and level of independence, AND teach them about sexuality and contraceptive methods. And I believe some abstinence programs do just that.

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  51. If you’ve seen “occasions where a man couldn’t keep up with the woman” you are very lucky indeed.

    This comment and others like it above are simply ridiculous. Are the men here virgins or what? Any man who hasn’t experienced a woman who has greater sexual capacity and drive than he does is simply not very experienced. Men have biological limits to their sexual powers. Women don’t. There are women out there who can string multiple orgasms together all night long.

    Can I smell within 10 yards which guys will be good lovers and bad lovers?

    Women always believe they can do this, but I don’t think they can. Outwardly shy / nervous or somewhat geeky guys can often be the best lovers because they don’t take it for granted. This was/is true of me. (Although I’m not that shy and nervous any more — but I might have been a better lover than I am now back when I wasn’t getting so much, because I wanted it more).

    In my experience, though, women don’t generally won’t have a relationship with a guy for his sexual prowess. They’re after something else usually (there are exceptions).

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  52. “The fact is, if men’s and women’s sex drives are equal, women would behave like men and there would be screwing in the streets, everywhere all the time. ”

    Unless, I don’t know. Women were subjected to something like honor killing, or the threat that no man will ever respect them, (or marry them, or refrain from raping them) unless they are a virgin, or maybe even social ostracization, the bullying treatment the designated high school “slut” gets. Or something like that.

    In fact, there is a school of evolutionary psychology that believes that the woman’s sex drive is so much more powerful than a man’s, that men have evolved to control the woman’s drive through social means and force, because they so fear the risk of raising another man’s children or being cuckolded. (Two very big fears on this board, right?)

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  53. And Jack, sexual gatekeepers? Really? We get to stay home with the kids, refrain from having sex unless it is somehow morally appropriate, and “nurture” everyone too? Did you boys keep any of the fun jobs for yourself at all?

    Oh wait, it wasn’t men who created this system where they get exclusive rights to all the fun and the money and the sex. It was “nature.” Yeah. Right. Seems very plausible.

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  54. Did anyone else besides me notice this when David Alexander in comment 33, droped this line, ” I’ve become a virtual chicken little about the potential IQ of my own children after learning that IQ is genetic and blacks have a lower average IQ.” WOW. What a fucking racist! I won’t even get into it. But how would he explain,” Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of any immigrant group in the United States with higher levels of completion than the stereotyped Asian American model minority. Source Wikipedia.

    David Alexander is black, Haitian specifically.

    As for the high educational levels of African immigrants, that’s probably attributable to selection bias – only the best and brightest come to America. The same thing is true for Indian immigrants, many of whom are quite high-achieving despite coming from a very poor country.

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  55. “This comment and others like it above are simply ridiculous. Are the men here virgins or what? Any man who hasn’t experienced a woman who has greater sexual capacity and drive than he does is simply not very experienced. Men have biological limits to their sexual powers. Women don’t. There are women out there who can string multiple orgasms together all night long.”

    MQ, my mistake was thinking that shabi was a man. Other than that, yes I once did meet a woman like that. She was married and used me to have an affair to say fuck you to her husband. I knew that, but I wasn’t getting any otherwise and was desperate enough to do it anyway.

    Otherwise, men have biological limits to their sexual ABILITY in the short run. We don’t have ANY sexual POWER at all! I’ll say it once again: there isn’t a female alive ages 15-40 who can’t get laid on demand, and no man can ever do that!

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  56. 52, 53: yeah, some of the stuff on this blog demonstrates pretty well why women would be afraid to reveal their sexuality to men. The mixture of attraction to and repulsion from women’s sexuality in posts like this one is sort of amazing. It’s easy to see how a guy like Roissy would try hard to seduce a woman and then turn on her if he felt threatened by her sexuality.

    With that said, I do think women are naturally more “discriminating” in their sexual choices than men. But I haven’t really found them to be less exual.

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  57. You guys on the board here must forgive Dizzy’s rudeness. She only acts that way because sheis too old now to land herself a husband, so she like to insult men to make up for her own lost opportunities.
    To Sestamibi:
    It’s more like 14-30.

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  58. for give the typos, old keyboard

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  59. “Women’s role is to be nurturing and moral. It is their natural rold as the bearer of children. It is not men’s natural role – ours is to lead and be strong, and to fight when necessary. So accept your role and succeed at it.”

    In other words, men can do whatever they want, because they may eventually need to protect the homestead from invading Mongols. Oh, come on. We live in modern society. We have jobs and mortgages and other assorted minutiae. Nobody’s fighting off invaders (what, have you seen Red Dawn too many times?) If you can’t enter the 21st century, at least please enter the 20th.

    And, yes, I’m a feminist. I believe women should have the opportunity to lead the lives that they choose for themselves. It has a lot more to do with being pro-woman than anti-man.

    Oh, and Gannon…”You guys on the board here must forgive Dizzy’s rudeness. She only acts that way because sheis too old now to land herself a husband, so she like to insult men to make up for her own lost opportunities.”

    I can’t speak on behalf of dizzy8, but the men on this board make marriage seem like a hell all of its own. If y’all are all that’s out there, then I’d rather be single forever. I’d rather be single than be in a relationship where I’m not respected. (Yes, I did “land a husband”, I left him because he didn’t treat me well, and would rather stay unmarried forever than be in a bad marriage.)

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  60. Nobody’s fighting off invaders

    It depends on how you look at it. Street thuggery, even of the petty sort you can encounter in a mall, is increasing. My wife and I were sitting in a restaurant recently, and at the next booth, there was a group of thuggish teenagers who were being loud and vulgar. The staff and patrons were pretending not to notice, until I asked the juveniles to stop.

    I am reasonably athletic, and in my mid-30s, but not intimidating at a glance. Yet, I was in a situation where I had to act firmly and possibly risk getting beat up.

    The Mongols point is a strawman. Men always have to be ready to “fight off invaders,” being from projecting a “don’t F. with me” aura when necessary, to earning a living, to investigating a noise downstairs in the middle of the night.

    By the way, the teenagers looked surprised when I copnfronted them, but they did quiet down.

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  61. A serious question for Shannon:
    Did you leave your husband because he really disrespected you or because yiou were bored? Most of divorces I have heard of all follow the following logic: women becomes bored, feels that life passes her by so she decides she wants to get divorced. Also, what some women really like about marriage isn’t the marriage itself but the prospect of cleaning financially out a man. Did you get the house and nice alimony too Shannon?

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  62. Gannon, sheesh. Way to stereotype women as grasping and materialistic. A “serious question” wouldn’t include a sideways slam about women “cleaning out” men’s bank accounts.

    No alimony, no house. I’m young, I’m able-bodied, I don’t have kids, I can work. I gave up my job and moved overseas for the guy, so all I asked for was enough money to get back on my feet while I looked for an apartment and a job. I took less than a court would have given me, and no more than I deserved.

    And I got divorced because the marriage was beyond saving – the guy turned out to be very traditional, didn’t want me to have a career, and he wanted to make all the decisions. I felt bullied and lonely. I’m a very independent person, and once I figured out that he wasn’t up for an equal marriage, I asked for a divorce. I’m in a relationship now that is going well. But overall I’d rather be single than be in a relationship where I feel controlled.

    PA: “Men always have to be ready to “fight off invaders,” being from projecting a “don’t F. with me” aura when necessary, to earning a living, to investigating a noise downstairs in the middle of the night.”

    Nah. No thanks, I can confront rowdy teenagers on my own. You don’t have to be a man to project a badass aura. I must say I view the whole thing as “meathead mentality”, which I find very unappealing. I’m sure there are women out there that are into that, but I like men who are masculine without being macho. (As in, will defend himself if attacked, but doesn’t go looking for trouble.)

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  63. DA:
    Yes, I know I’m hated here,

    ah, the old pity power play. this will bring some comforting words from the girls, but here, in my thunderdome, the weak and pitiable sink or swim.

    hope:
    Many women, myself included, cannot orgasm from intercourse.

    hope, have you taken my dating market value test for women? i’d be curious of your score. if you’re older try to figure out what your score would’ve been when you were in your prime.

    dizzy:
    Oh wait, it wasn’t men who created this system where they get exclusive rights to all the fun and the money and the sex. It was “nature.” Yeah. Right. Seems very plausible.

    why do you have a neurotic fear of masculine desire?

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  64. “It’s more like 14-30.”

    My husband’s coworkers tend to go for the cougar type older women. One of them, a rather good looking fellow with a six-pack in his 30’s, exclusively dates older women. My husband also almost always dated women older than him before he met me, and even then he told me I was far more mentally mature than my age. I don’t claim to understand it, but I suspect older women take on more of a teacher role for the younger males.

    “hope, have you taken my dating market value test for women? i’d be curious of your score. if you’re older try to figure out what your score would’ve been when you were in your prime.”

    Yes. I’m 23 right now, and scored a nascent alpha (36). Though, I never really was in the traditional dating market. I’ve been online since I was 12 and self-identify as one of the nerd crowd (which is overwhelmingly male-dominated). I don’t drink, go to bars, or party, so almost all of the men I’ve dated I met in school or online.

    “Nah. No thanks, I can confront rowdy teenagers on my own. You don’t have to be a man to project a badass aura. I must say I view the whole thing as “meathead mentality”, which I find very unappealing.”

    While I agree that overly macho, egotistical and violent traits unattractive, I do adore masculine, gallant and chivalrous gentlemen. I like the type who always opens doors for people (not just women), would never intentionally lay a finger on a woman but who can hold his own when a street brawl comes to him. I usually live rather obliviously to danger, and I prefer to have a strong man with razor-sharp survival instincts to protect me.

    I like this quote by Robert Heinlein:

    Whenever women have insisted on absolute equality with men, they have invariably wound up with the dirty end of the stick. For women, “equality” is a disaster.

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  65. Yes. I’m 23 right now, and scored a nascent alpha (36).

    this confirms a suspicion i have that women who have trouble orgasming through intercourse tend to rate higher on my DMV test.
    i think it has something to do with an inverse correlation between very feminine features (high estrogen, smaller clitorises) and orgasmic ability.
    iow, high estrogen women are primed more for love than sex.

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  66. Oh, Dizzy isn’t so bad. She has good intentions. But you know just what to say to rile her up. The truth is I believe that women and men have different roles to fill, but I have no problem with women wanting to advance themselves in life. But I will not accept that the sluttiness trend for women nowadays is good for them, or for society.

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  67. on October 31, 2007 at 5:58 pm David Alexander

    iow, high estrogen women are primed more for love than sex.

    In other words, I have to choose between the sweet chubby white girl and “boring” sex, or the thin masculine looking white girl lots porn-like sex. It seems rather frustrating that my choices are limited like that, and being loveless with sex or emotionally satisfied, but forced to jerk off, which seems no different than now.

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  68. Gannon–

    Yeah, I think 14-30 is right. Slow drop off after than, then over the cliff at 40.

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  69. Okay, I’m late to the game here and responding directly to Roissy’s post, not the avalanche of comments.

    “I appreciate a girl who asks if I have a condom. But when I don’t and she reaches into her nightstand to get one I don’t want to see six different varieties (especially Trojan Magnum) in half-empty econoboxes tumble out. … “Happen” to have one lying around. Ignorance is bliss.”

    So then you’d prefer the girl be all coy and pretend to have just one condom available just for her big special night with big special you? Or maybe you’d prefer she have no condoms in her nightstand at all??
    Sorry, dude, it doesn’t work that way. Either a girl is responsible about her own health (and therefore has condoms handy), or she isn’t. Don’t expect her to put on a show of modesty for you when you’re getting ready to be naked and sweaty together.

    The same goes for how her roommates behave when they meet you. 1) They live there too, so expecting them to scatter for your benefit is merely you being unjustly arrogant and territorial. 2) Everyone’s well aware that you’re some random new guy coming over to bang the roommate, so again, why put on a show just to protect your ego and your opinion of her moral values?

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  70. #69, I believe the term (as used in Tom Wolfe’s novel, “I Am Charlotte Simmons”) is “sexiled”.

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  71. Sestamibi –

    I read that book. It’s a completely inaccurate portrayal of American college life, allegedly from the perspective of a small-town freshman girl, but actually written by a 70-something man who got a lot of shit wrong. Nevertheless…

    “Sexile” refers to actual roommates, as in you sleep in the same room, like in a dorm. One roommate needs the room, the other has to sleep elsewhere. But in an apartment where the other girls each have their own bedrooms, expecting them to vacate the common living spaces just for His Majesty Roissy (or any guy!) is ludicrously demanding.

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  72. “why do you have a neurotic fear of masculine desire?”

    Where did that accusation come from? You and your commenters have a long list of things that you don’t want women to do. If a woman risks your displeasure with her behavior/job/condom collection, you all say that she has lost her chance to live a “normal” life because you don’t want her anymore. That doesn’t, technically, work as a logical syllogism. Unless you supply the missing clause, “Only women who please me are normal.”

    So I point that out, and your only answer is that I don’t get you horny? Or that I am afraid of you being horny? I guess I’m not even sure what you were trying to say…

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  73. DA:
    Seriously, there has to be some benefit to long-term relationships since sex doesn’t seem to be one of them.

    false premise.
    david, have you ever been in love?

    dizzy:
    I guess I’m not even sure what you were trying to say…

    you have a chip on your shoulder that expresses itself in your hatred of male sexual desire and male psychology.

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  74. Dizzy8,

    Funny how roissy jumps on the closing line of your post, and leaves the substance untouched.

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  75. “Dizzy: I guess I’m not even sure what you were trying to say…

    Roissy: you have a chip on your shoulder that expresses itself in your hatred of male sexual desire and male psychology.”

    Yeah. Ok. Where does this hatred of sexual desire and male psychology appear again? I said you were… wrong… And you’ve somehow cleverly deduced that means I hate sex and half the world’s population?

    Are you sure it doesn’t just mean that I think you’re wrong (or at least you have some logical holes that could use a plug)?

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  76. […] lying to his face? This could be the beginning of a horrible relationship! Given that sluttiness reduces a woman’s sexual market value, it doesn’t surprise me that this whore can’t bring […]

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