A Tale Of Two Loyalties

Obama after the Henry Louis Gates, Jr. incident:

Obama after Muslim fanatic Nidal Malik Hasan went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood while shouting “Allahu Akbar“:
“We don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”
Sez it all, really.




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  1. so is Hasan A, ß, Ω ?

    also, I haven’t seen you use this term, but when I was a kid we called betas “pussy-whipped”

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  2. invite him to the white house for a beer

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  3. This is the comment of the month.

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  4. Umm…Professor Gates was clearly in his own home when the police arrived. He was enticed to come outside by the responding officer and then arrested on his own doorstep. All of this was fairly clear at the time Obama made his statement.

    At this time, there are still a lot of things we don’t know about Major Hasan and the massacre at Fort Hood. It probably does make sense to withhold judgment until all the facts are in. Unless you’re just looking to engage in free form religious bigotry. In which case, go right ahead.

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  5. Stick to posting about women, you are better at it.

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  6. Roissy’s right, but this thread will devolve rapidly into a pointless political discussion about African Americans starring Obsideon.

    Anyway – update about seeing my ex-girlfriend. For background: we were together 3.5 years, then broke up semi-mutually, then I chased after her until the relationship was completely broken. Our last conversation was in June; she agreed to see me recently after putting it off for about a month. It’s been a little over a year since the breakup.

    Overall I feel that I did well, utilizing aspects of game. I Kept the conversation generally light; we ate a late lunch then walked around. But I felt that I was in a huge hole from my actions post-breakup. She told me that she was seeing someone but he wasn’t her boyfriend, and that she didn’t want anything serious right now. She said she didn’t want to get back together, and that I should find someone else so then we could be friends (she knows about Ladder Theory). I maintained state control. I was pushing the angle of “let’s be friends in the context of seeing if we’re right for each other now, a lot has changed in the last year” – I put stress on the “seeing if we’re right for each other now” part, because I’m not going to be a vagina spineless beta friend. She was on the fence about it, and at the end I asked her (stupidly) how we’re going from here, and she wavered between keeping the line of communication open or her calling me, then said she would call me.

    This was yesterday (Friday). I think the odds are decent that she’ll call in the next 2-4 days, and I think I’ll follow up in a week or so and invite her to go hiking or something if I don’t hear back.

    Yes, I’m trying to FTOW. Meanwhile I seem unable to write this off as a loss.

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  7. You do realize that Obama made the Gates comment on the 22nd of July, 6 days after the Gates arrest on July 16th. After 6 days, most of the facts were known. You can dispute his judgment as to whether the arrest was stupid, but he did at least wait 6 days.

    If he continues to withhold judgment on Hasan after November 12th, at which point we’ll know almost all the facts about the shooting – this argument will hold water. But until then, you’re a little premature in your criticism.

    I realize this is your blog and you will write about whatever interests you – and if I don’t like it I can leave – but I find your blog more enjoyable and informative when it stays away from politics. You have a great niche and I feel I learn something every time you post about women. When you post about politics, it feels as if you didn’t post anything that day.

    Why not create a second blog that holds your political posts? You want to write them and some of your audience wants to read them, but they are off-topic and dilute your site. Link the two together and occasionally cross-post for things like Berlusconi. That would seem to be the best of both worlds.

    I’m a fan of your site and have recommended it to many of my friends. I just find it harder to recommend now than I did 6-9 months ago, because of the political polemic.

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  8. if only life were as simple as one line quotes taken out of context.

    “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”

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  9. Your radid right wing views make you lose credibility when it comes to talking about Game. It is best that you keep them hidden.

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  10. JC: Seriously, you have to leave it. If you want a remote chance at bringing her back to you, you have to leave it.

    She was only being nice to you for the sake of your previous association. It is currently not going to work, as she doesn’t want you and she is thinking about someone else: NOT you. She has moved on. You are bothering her.

    If you had good enough memories, she will be thinking about you positively in six months time to a year if you completely exit her life. That is the only strategy that is going to work, not least because you have demonstrated too much neediness and you need to fix that. You are currently sabotaging this completely.

    Meanwhile, date other women and seriously. You don’t need her in your life, you don’t.

    she agreed to see me recently after putting it off for about a month.

    How can you be so blind and not understand what position you’re in? She has been umming and aahing for a month. She is seeing someone else. You need to leave her. Six months to a year — where you gather interesting stories (and, come on, much more fun experiences with women) and have self-development — otherwise you lose your chance completely.

    Though hopefully you find someone new and start fresh instead of clinging to her like a stubborn, wet limpet.

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  11. I can see the Obamatons are out in force today. You just don’t like the hypocrisy of your Dear Leader being questioned.

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  12. Gates engaged in an epic Chimpout, that’s why he was arrested, and Obongo-bama knew that. But his bruthaly love made it impossible not to reflexively take the side of Spades, err, Gates.

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  13. So, Obama has a loyalty to violent Muslim fanatics? Is that what you’re implying?

    What, was he supposed to say, “Looks like another crazy raghead, killed some people. Case closed.” ?

    Going after Obama’s treatment of these two situations which aren’t even remotely comparable is a weak point of critique.

    But sure, why not contrast a horrific mass killing to a shouting match that ended in friendly beer drinking and thereby derive judgments about an uninvolved man’s loyalties?

    It all makes sense now.

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  14. Bhetti: thanks for the response. I had waited 5 months since our last conversation to contact her, and I’ve had sex with one girl during that period, got close with another, hooked up with a third, and turned down a fourth. Not a lot, but it’s something. There’s also been serious self-development – once a week in therapy with an awesome therapist, and reading Roissy’s blog has helped tremendously.

    Yeah, I knew the position I was in when she put me off for a month. yeah, it was beta to force the issue – I guess my confidence in myself and my ability to find someone as good as her is low (petal-ization). I’m actively looking for something new but finding something that works for me is difficult. The closest thing I have going right now is some serious flirting with an engaged chick.

    My ex is seeing someone, but not seriously enough to even call the guy her boyfriend.

    If I don’t pursue this now, after 5 months of not talking and over a year being broken up (which I screwed up royally – the details would have you squirming) – when’s the opportunity?

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  15. Nothing surprising here, any rational person understands that Obama is a catastrophe, the affirmative action president. But the most idiotic decision in the first place is to receive Muslims in the military while you wage war against Islamic terrorism, in the name of diversity. It’s like Charles Martel welcoming Muslims in his army or the Romans including some Carthaginian soldiers during the Punic wars, for diversity’s sake. Suicidal. Obama is one of the symptoms of our suicidal tendencies as a society.

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  16. The image she has of you is not working. You need to change the image of you completely:
    a) leave it a long time: give her the opportunity to forget the bad and/or lukewarm times, remembering the good stuff by exiting her life
    b) please leave it a long time: demonstrate that you’re not actually that attached or needy and an independent adult.

    Then, after leaving it a long time and if you’re still interested in her:
    a) demonstrate she ‘missed out’ by showing how desirable you are to other women
    b) you are a different man. Not only did you two have good times before, but now you can show her a much better time.
    c) But you’d only show her a good time if she was worth it.

    This is a strategy, JC. Your current strategy will not work.

    Right now, you need to move on. You will take the lessons this has given you. I’m pretty sure you’ll find something much better, you will, and you probably would not want to exchange that for getting her back. You’re single, free and young: you’ve got the chance to learn, it’s all looking good and the whole world’s your oyster. Have fun with it. You’ll be chained to some clever woman soon enough.

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  17. Erm….pointing out the The One’s reckless jump to a conclusion on one issue while counseling a delay of judgment on the other is “rabid right wing?” I think not.

    Six days post the Gates event the facts were still murky. And Obama more or less retracted his “stupid” comment through later statements. So it’s pretty clear to him and all that he was foolish to make that statement before all the facts were in. There is plenty of blame to go around, but it’s hard to say the Cambridge cops acted stupidly. Read the actual police report. A neighbor had just called the cops and reported a break-in next door. Cops arrived and found 2 guys who fit the description in the house, asked for ID. Gates starts screaming and being belligerent. Lucky for him he wasn’t tasered.

    This is Roissy’s blog and he’ll write what he pleases. He never declared this is just about gaming. I find his political views refreshing.

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  18. on November 7, 2009 at 12:52 pm i don't come here for political analysis

    stick w women. the implication obamas a secret muslim, or at least a muslim sympathizer (while arming israel with billions worth of bombs destined for muslim civilians) is absolutely ridiculous. try getting your political news from sources other than fox news

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  19. Thank you Bhetti. You’re right that my current strategy isn’t working, and that to follow up would be counter-productive. I feel sad, because I felt that our issues generally stemmed from me not understanding evolutionary psychology and male-female dynamics – i.e. not doing what I needed to do to keep the attraction alive, rather than any fundamental differences between us. To me, she’s the one that got away – and that’s heartbreaking and hard to deal with.

    I’ve bookmarked your blog – you’re erudite and a clear writer.

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  20. JC: Ah, okay, seen your response. Slightly different picture there. It’s not time if she’s reluctant. Did you act differently from before?

    Now, confront your nonsense. You know you can do better. You’re a better man. You feel a better man. Why wouldn’t you? Illogical, JC. You know you’re being illogical.

    Slept with one woman, nine others to go (is what a PUA would say to you).

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  21. on November 7, 2009 at 12:56 pm i don't come here for political analysis

    and by the way, funny how when muslims have bombs rain down their heads, its “terrorism” to retaliate, but planes flying into buildings seems to justify retaliation on a mass scale. but its kinda hard to see the mote in the eyes of others when there a beam in your own.

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  22. To me, she’s the one that got away – and that’s heartbreaking and hard to deal with

    Hugs. You’ll do so much better as you learn from it, you’ll see.

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  23. the implication obamas a secret muslim, or at least a muslim sympathizer (while arming israel with billions worth of bombs destined for muslim civilians) is absolutely ridiculous.

    Not really. It is called “playing both sides against the middle” and our elites are experts at it.

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  24. “I find his political views refreshing.”

    Yes, in my opinion, he should write more texts of this kind. My favorite was the one about Ted Kennedy.

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  25. I am not an Obama fan but this is stupid post.

    The two situations are not at all analogous. We DON’T yet know what happened in the Hasan case. The Gates case was clear more or less immediately.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120183526&ps=cprs

    It’s not even clear he was actually saying Allahu Akbar.

    Poor form, Roissy.

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  26. Let me just say that there are so many pickup artists but none that write like roissy. I hope he’s too genuinely narcissistic to actually change his content and combination styles; it’s what makes him unique and make him appeal to an audience so widely varied.

    He’s a buffet: something for everyone.

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  27. Yes,this proves that Barry Soetoro is a muslim!

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  28. Thanks Bhetti. Yes, I acted differently than before – maintaining state control, using a dose of cocky/funny, trying to keep things light (but not always, as we discussed my personal development to some extent), not trying to manipulate her feelings but putting how I felt on the table.

    I hope she contacts me and that we can go from here. She was reluctant though, both in getting together and then during the meetup. It’s difficult because of the hole I put myself in, and while seeing her and even after I felt a great sense of sadness – maybe stemming from the fact that there’s nothing more I can do.

    I don’t know whether I can do better. We stayed together for 3.5 years, including 2 years when I went to serve in a foreign army, with her fighting a losing battle of slowly losing attraction because I was a complete beta. That’s such a long time to be fighting that battle. She’s a wonderful woman and worth fighting for. But there’s nothing more I can do…

    By the way, your background is really interesting. Very few people are on the quest for truth, but you are certainly on it – and so young, too.

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  29. “To me, she’s the one that got away – and that’s heartbreaking and hard to deal with.”

    Which is why you’re not dealing with it. Waiting and giving her time and planning are not dealing with it. Dealing with it is getting on with your life and chalking one bad break up to experience. There are situations that cannot be fixed and this sounds like one. The meeting you described sounds awkward and her doing everything possible to let you down gently and not give you hope (and unwittingly cruel of her, a firm ‘do not call, ever’ would be kinder).

    “when’s the opportunity?”

    There is none. Give it up. Pursuing it (with ‘game’ or whatever) is a one way ticket to creepy-guy-who-no-girl-wants-to-talk-to-ville.

    You deserve better (and probably so does she).

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  30. If only we could contrast Obama’s statement with those made by Bush after 9/11, we might be able to show some real differences between elite Democratic and Republican opinion concerning Islam, AKA the “religion of peace.” Unfortunately, Bush uttered many of the same PC platitudes during his administration.

    The same utterly delusional PC also infects our military as evidenced by the relevations that this Major Hassan publicly showed sympathy with the jihadist barbarians, passed out Korans to his neighbors, and used his position as an Army psychiatrist to try to persuade soldiers he was treating that the terror war was unjust!

    I’ve always been skeptical of the “suicide of the west” posts that crop up from time to time on your blog, Roissy, (because almost every generation believes they are living the end-times), but when one combines virtually unlimited immigration, an expanding welfare state, and cowardly political correctness, one can really believe that the barbarians are at the gate screaming “allahu akbar!”

    I can only hope that heads will role in Hassan’s chain of command.

    I won’t hold my breath.

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  31. on November 7, 2009 at 1:30 pm Horatio Sanchez

    Hey, I’m all for the political stuff on here, once in a while anyways. Roissy has a talent for concise but revealing little jabs, and it really irritates the liberals. What the hell are they doing on a site which, as its foundation, dispels myths of male/female “equality” (and equalism in general)?

    Roissy does not equally politically correct. Something about pretty lies and perishing.

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  32. Tsk tsk, should have done your homework.

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  33. It’s pretty obvious this blog is (getting) political some times, but getting pussy is political too. What made it okay to engage in preteen mother-daughter threesomes and then slip on the top hat and monocle and walk out as an honorable gentleman in the beginning of the 20th century, as portrayed in the historically accurate Pretty Baby with Brooke Shields? How come men in the West nowadays are increasingly being threatened, vilified and jailed for sex offences and increasingly omegad and betad into submission? Politics and morals, basically.

    And for the people who don’t like political postings and prefer women and game, why not just skip to those posts and stop bothering everyone about your uninteresting personal preferences?

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  34. on November 7, 2009 at 1:36 pm Brick Oven Bill

    You err in attributing words to Obama when his head is swiveling back and forth at 45 degree angles Roissy. These are not his words. He is reading these words.

    The Gates words were his own, but you could learn more about the man by looking at his eyes, which were angry.

    The only judgment one can make about the talk before the Tribal Leaders was the light-hearted conversation and joking in the introduction, indicating that the President was not personally bothered by the shootings.

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  35. In a similar vein,after a black kid was killed by a railroad tie weilding bad guy at Fenger high in Chicago,Barry sent 2 bigshots(Arne Duncan,the failed supe of the Chi Public Schools & (ugh!) Eric Holder,the affirmative-action baby (Columbia,harvard…zzzzzzz) whose parents came here from Barbados,where lite skinnded blackies like himself rule over the darker massess)to Chicago to make a big stink about it. After 6 thugs brutally beat a white “youth” in Louisiana,he came out…for the thugs!!

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  36. There are plenty of other sites where this sort of half ass analysis is viewed as brilliance. If people want to participate in a right wing wank fest, they should just head over to RetardState.

    Btw, Roissy, you do know that your views on marriage and women make you an outcast among the majority of your fellow right wing nutters right?

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  37. This is pretty weak.

    A shoot up in America? zomg. No way.

    And an Army guy at that. Those people are the most sane people of all!

    Get a grip people. This “muslim fanatic” also had an alcohol problem, and was fucked up in all the ways the average American gun toting, rampaging psycho is.

    There was another shooting at the same base, less than a year ago.

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  38. Serious weak sauce, this post is.

    Obama made the Gates comment after most of the smoke had cleared and the facts were, indeed, known. His view that the cops were stupid was one of several views towards the case that were perfectly reasonable based on the known facts. The quote about the Fort Hood massacre was spoken virtually within hours of the incident, the root causes of which are, by all accounts, complex, perplexing, and mysterious. Obama’s response was pretty much the only responsible option given his role as the national leader. Also, given the MSMs profound bias for sensationalism, it is pretty naive to accept at face value that the shooter really shouted “Allah Akbar,” just because 1 associated press article claims that a few soldiers–shaken up and confused–thought that they heard it.

    Just a lazy, vapid post. Way below roissy.

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  39. JC

    You are acting like a whiny little pussy male kitchen bitch. Your ex no longer wants you. Face the facts. She is fucking someone else. Do you get that? While you are at home pining away over her, dreaming about how wonderful things were, how wonderful things might be if you could only get her back, she is taking some guy’s cock in her mouth, in her pussy, probably even her ass, moaning and groaning and telling him how much she likes it as she wraps her legs around him and they kiss and she grinds her hips into him and tells him how she wants him to fuck her over and over again. When she swallows his cum she is not thinking about you, ok? When he is eating her pussy, she is not thinking about you, ok? Then after he and who knows who else has fucked her she probably lies in bed with him and laughs about her pathetic ex who wont leave her alone and how she wishes he would just go away and how lousy a lover you were. Trust me, she talks that way about you to her new lovers. You no longer do anything for her sexually or emotionally.

    Leave her. Never talk to her again. Don’t do the “lets be friends” thing and “have lunch” with her as if you were some purse carrying girlfriend of hers. She has contempt for you, even if she would never admit that to your face. You don’t make her pussy wet anymore, and that is the bottom line. And because of that, you never will make her wet again. So find new and fresh pussy. You are disgracing yourself by pining after this bitch. If you don’t stop wining about her I will have to recommend castration for you.

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  40. Your [rabid] right wing views make you lose credibility when it comes to talking about Game.

    Answer three questions, Adrian:

    What view or belief is expressed in this post? Nobody debates that Obama said certain things on certain occasions. So what is there to argue with, here? Can you articulate the implicit belief you characterize as right-wing? (I can, in about twenty words.)

    Can you show that the belief is false?

    Whether it’s true or false, can you show any rational connection between this belief and Roissy’s credibility with regard to Game? (I know the answer to this one, too.)

    You don’t need to actually reply. Just think it over. If you’re honest, you’ll notice that you’re thinking it over for the first time. I mean this kindly: your comment is not the result of a thought process, any more than a squid is thinking when it squirts ink and jets off backwards. This is normal, but it’s nothing to be happy about. Game is largely about taking conscious action to exploit unthinking human responses. Your comment shows that you can be gamed.

    It is best that you keep them hidden.

    So typical. You don’t have an answer, you don’t even really know what is being said. You just feel that people shouldn’t say it.

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  41. Evidence is starting to come out that women aren’t particularly unhappy under patriarchy:
    http://inductivist.blogspot.com/2009/11/muslim-women-are-as-happy-as-their-men.html

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  42. These kinds of poll results aren’t new Thursday. People also don’t consider that in much of the Muslim world, there exists a matriarchy within the home (where she is in charge of finances, and how the home is ordered) and a patriarchy in the private sphere. Women have their own spheres of power, and it’s enough for them.

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  43. Above should read *patriarchy in the public sphere*. Sorry.

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  44. [blockquote]Answer three questions, Adrian:

    What view or belief is expressed in this post? Nobody debates that Obama said certain things on certain occasions. So what is there to argue with, here? Can you articulate the implicit belief you characterize as right-wing? (I can, in about twenty words.)

    Can you show that the belief is false?

    Whether it’s true or false, can you show any rational connection between this belief and Roissy’s credibility with regard to Game? (I know the answer to this one, too.)[/blockquote]

    Overall, I would agree with you, Jiggle O, that there is little to no connection between roissy’s credibility wrt game and roissy’ credibility wrt politics, though at the same time I can partially sympathize with Adrian. Even though this is not a post about game, it is still an attempt at abstract analysis, for which roissy must rely on the same skills of reasoning and logic which he utilizes to to articulate his thoughts on game. As it happens, the analysis offered in this post is shockingly poor, depending on huge leaps in reasoning, which themselves depend on some fairly unsophisticated, un-rigorous political judgements.

    Because I have been following roissy’s advice on game for almost a year, and have seen excellent results, his credibility in terms of practical game advice will never waver for me personally. It does make me second guess his judgement on is more abstract thoughts on female psychology, though–particularly the ones that are based on little more than scant observation and a cursory understanding of evolutionary psychology.

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  45. “After 6 days, most of the facts were known. You can dispute his judgment as to whether the arrest was stupid, but he did at least wait 6 days.”

    Umm, Obama himself said “we don’t know all the facts yet” but it is “clear” the police acted “stupidly.”

    Now why would he say that if all the facts were already known?

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  46. Clear cut double standards from the Obama. Truth hurts.

    And the truth must be told. Keep it up.

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  47. Whereas there is a dump-truck load worth of evidence that women are miserable under the feminist “liberation” they’ve created for themselves.

    Good fucking job, women.

    The only problem is that women were assisted in their riding roughshod over millenia of gender normative roles by beta males, who thought that indulging women’s every equalist whim would make women respect them more. Today, your average guy on the street is beta-ized and brainwashed by equalist bullshit to the point where he will defend modern women knee-jerkedly.

    We are faced not only with bitter bitches, power grrrrrls, feminists, and the rest of their cunty ilk, but also with legions of self-loathing betas who back the anti-male agenda and do so with a sense of self-righteousness, white knightism. (“Women are equal, man! Stop your hate speak! My woman is so equal that she makes 3x more than me, relegates me to cleaning the house, and bangs every guy at the office! Equal, bro!”)

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  48. on November 7, 2009 at 2:17 pm Cannon's Canon

    racer x is speaking real truth to jc. i wish someone had that chat with me six years ago.

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  49. Not necessarily two loyalties but maybe a sign that he is learning the ropes of being president.

    Quote#1: Obama was reflexively defending his buddy. Being new in office he was too stupid to realize that what a president says carries “weight.” Lesson learned: Don’t be too quick to make a judgement without all the facts.

    Quote#2: He made that quote based on the lesson learned from quote#1.

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  50. As it happens, the analysis offered in this post is shockingly poor, depending on huge leaps in reasoning, which themselves depend on some fairly unsophisticated, un-rigorous political judgements.

    There is no analysis in this post. It’s a Rorschach test. What does it say to you? Here’s what it says to me:

    “In any conflict or debate involving a member of a Designated Victims Group, President Obama will take the side of the Designated Victims Group.”

    Which, as far as I’m concerned, is banal. It’s about as debatable as “water is wet”.

    The only particular thing Roissy says is that Hasan is a Muslim fanatic. Well, Hasan says that too. There’s basically nothing here to argue about.

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  51. Yup, Obama has shown that he will always side with the bad guys. And, par for the course, the media was first to speculate that it was whitey (e.g., PSTD troops) who did the shooting, similar to how they speculated about the beltway snipers.

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  52. on November 7, 2009 at 2:47 pm It's My First Day

    Roissy, I love your posts about women; you’re a superstar when it comes to game and a brilliant writer to boot. That said, I don’t come here for political discourse. I assume that you think you are offering a world view that is necessary to fully see past all the “pretty lies”, but I for one don’t think that a right wing/elitist political frame of reference is necessary to game women.

    Now, don’t get me wrong, I think I’m better than everyone else, but I don’t let that be the overarching motivation behind all my political views – I think that having too much of an elitist/aristocratic ruling class leads to the guillotines being sharpened. You have your politics though, and that’s fine. They just aren’t important to what this blog should be about.

    But I digress. What I’m trying to say it is, I’m here to read about getting pussy, not to hear right wing talking points and xenophobic rants about how the Muslims are coming to take all our women from us.

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  53. IMFD:

    There are lots of other places to get equally good pick up advice. People come here for the social commentary.

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  54. Pretty lies perish.

    Roissyism is inseparable from a clear-eyed view of the world (aka seeing the vast western self-delusion and suicide evident in these whiny comments)

    Post away, Roissy. The politics and the man are one and the same.

    Your proudest achievement should be not your notch count,m but that you survived the barrage of lies in 30 years of PC western indoctrination, and have had the intelligence and honesty to resist.

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  55. Indeed, if you want a PUA with the standard leftwing insanity, read Style’s “Emergency.” Pretty lies, if not dying, are regularly assaulted here, including the soft, unthinking herd mentality of urban leftism and international sheep porking. It’s not a rant or talking points, it’s an actual thought pattern.

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  56. There are lots of other places to get equally good pick up advice. People come here for the social commentary.

    I enjoy the advice on game and relationships and human behavior.

    Social commentary and politics is a waste.

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  57. And actually, I recall that R’s pickup-sphere is based on the downfall of western civilization, caused by the destruction of traditional viewpoints, such as calling a Muslim who kills a bunch of people while yelling Allah Akbar a “terrorist,” and not trying to blame PTSD or some other blame shifting strategy. So, it’s all related. As women are no longer constrained by society, he rakes in the ladies.

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  58. Obama spent the first nine years of his life raised a Muslim, with a Mom who was weak and PC-ridden, and a nice but corrupt Indonesian guy not his father that his Mom did not respect and hen-pecked. Obama sought “strength” by identifying with the boys who threw him in canals for being part Black and American, and could decades later recite the call to prayer in Arabic to NYT reporter Nick Kristof.

    Obama somehow (never explained) roomed with a Pakistani Muslim while at Columbia, and spent an unexplained summer in Pakistan while at Columbia where he had no friends or family. He was very likely at the Mosque extensively at Columbia. His first book is full of criticisms of his room-mates abandonment of Islam (eventually) for drugs and praise for his half brother’s conversion to Islam. These are all things we know about Obama.

    He is culturally Muslim, he is not culturally American, and is indeed hostile to America, Americans, and particularly White Americans. His “shout out” to some guy in the audience on the occasion of another Jihad by a Muslim killer in the US was telling — he also hates the Military and (again) Americans as the famous picture of him cradling his crotch during the National Anthem while even Hillary and Bill Richardson have their hands over their hearts attests.

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  59. Actually, it doesn’t say very much at all. Fucking Republicans.

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  60. Whiskey, true dat. I would contend that he is culturally left-wing anti-American. His first response is to always blame the US. He has no value for our history or our values. That is why he thinks he’s transformative. I don’t know how “Muslim” he is, but he sure felt at home at some make-believe black power church that regularly pooped on America. Just as I am sure his whole social circle did.

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  61. none of you fools are americans. its been a mere 250 years since genocide on the natives and the overthrow of the original colonist ruling class.

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  62. Drawing a long bow there, Roissy.

    There is a rather large disparity between a case of mistaken identity, and some fuck-knuckle gone on a shooting spree.

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  63. The cops responded to a call from a neighbor who said she saw some guy break into the house next door. When the cops show up that guy started yelling “yo mama!” when they tried to talk to him.
    Obviously the cops were stupid.

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  64. Because Americans never went on shooting sprees before the Muslim hordes, emboldened by their secret Muslim president, took over. Right.

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  65. I don’t know about Roissy’s connection between these cases, maybe they turn out right. But for me they point at two really bad ticks in Obama’s fur. In fact, they’re both infected, and threatening to seriously scab his style.

    The point about Gates is the police acted completely according to instructions and reason. They responded to a reported burglary, Gates refused to identify himself and started screaming instead. If you don’t know you need to identify yourself to a police officer and you can’t scream at them, you’re very dense. In fact it’s pretty safe to assume Gates knew, he just wanted to make an episode of it, so he could use it to underpin the world beliefs that maintain his current high ranking academic position. What happened was Gates was either being a complete idiot or trying to make trouble with the police, presumably to get career and personal advantages. And Obama has supported Gates through all this. That’s not a good decision, and that’s the main fallout from the episode.

    The leader of a country has a really big problem if he’s recruited enemy soldiers and spies to vulnerable positions, and those people start going nuts and attacking. Regardless of what will be known as the end result of this, that now looks very possible. Coupled with the US financial crisis, expensive and atrocious wars and a rapidly declining and segregating right side of the bell curve white and other high functioning groups, you have the recipe for a very long term decline. Granted Obama didn’t invent multiculti, but he’s certainly a product of it, he wouldn’t be president without it, he embraces it, and he’s still responsible for running it if it fails.

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  66. and yet America is the longest living constitutional republic on the planet (except for something called San Marino), I think we can dispense with anti-American sophistry.

    People do bad things all the time, but what similarity can we find between these events?
    The Beltway Snipers’ mastermind John Allen Muhammad
    UNC Chapel Hill, SUV driver Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar
    The LAX El Al shooter Hesham Mohamed Hadayet
    The Glasgow airport SUV bomber Mohammad Asha
    London tube bomber Mohammad Sidique Khan
    Madrid bomber Mohamed Almallah Dabas

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  67. Not roissy’s most incisive post. The difference is that Muslims are at a much greater risk of suffering a backlash of bigoted violence and/or political oppression than are police.

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  68. It doesnt say anything at all unless you want it to. It’s two quotes pulled out of context which do not combine to explain anything. The first quote is an opinion expressed well after the event in question. The second quote applies to a wholly different, and certainly more complex event and was uttered as the fog of war was still clearing.

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  69. Carl Sagan,
    I disagree.

    Politics has similarities with being “ALPHA”.

    Most BETA laws are passed by conservative governments, swayed by the relighous right wing bible belt”do-gooders”.

    Some people get confused and lump extreme left wingers and those of the centre or centre-left all together.

    Those on the far left are just as BETA as their far rgiht zealots.

    I dunno, when I thing conservative I picture some Wallstreet type fag in a pin-stripe suit – when I think centre-left I picture a working man, beer, bitches, and rugby.

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  70. Charon, you misspelled Jews.

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  71. Oh yeah, one more…Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab.

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  72. The actual more probable effect of Obama and his apparent pacifism is quieting the muslim hordes; he’s sucking up, has ‘Hussein’ for a middle name and is not being threatening. Hey! He even won the Peace Prize!

    That’s the word on my muslim grapevine, anyway.

    It’s all about the image, not the actions.

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  73. This knee jerk excuse reflex for Muslims is disgusting. Muslims seem to be doing ok, it’s the SWPL’s who always worry about the never realized backlash, and their PR base is willing to use your naivety to avoid criticism. With one breath you urge to withhold judgment of Islamic crimes, but on the otherhand, you’ll never give America, it’s allies, or our citizens that same benefit of the doubt.

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  74. JC: Oh, you’ll definitely do better especially with what you’ve learned. Slowly killing attraction with beta behaviour? Ain’t going to happen to you again. That’s a wealth of good news.

    By the way, your background is really interesting. Very few people are on the quest for truth, but you are certainly on it – and so young, too.

    Clearly, someone doesn’t need the advice ’cause he’s moving on. Sure, he’ll mope appropriately but as if he’s going to remember it when an interesting, good-looking woman crosses his path and new possibility is in the air… 😉

    Anyway, thank you for your interest. I do realise you weren’t flirting, just playing.

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  75. R’s frequent entrées into the political realm are more often than not insipid and reflecting more feeling than thought — approximately the opposite of his writings on women and game.

    That said, I do enjoy a good argument and debate, so polemics don’t bother me. The problem is the drive-by fashion in which they’re delivered, which, instead if setting up a good back-and-forth, simply invite the batshit ravings of Whiskey* and others.

    It comes off as a “cue the knee-jerk Obama-bashers, race baiters, and shit stirrers,” signal. I doubt this is intended, but its the inevitable result.

    Remember when Medvedev and Silvio each AMOG’ed Obama, except they didn’t? Um, yeah.

    * – “culturally muslim” like attending a Christian church, drinking alcohol, and eating pork ? You’re a fucking idiot, Whiskey.

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  76. Was Timothy McVeigh a Muslim?

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  77. Therapy is beta. Someone, probably a woman (or close), tells you what to do and what you are — not a real show of strength on your part. Terms like personal development are more than gay. Just read real thinkers yourself, ones who are one in 100 million. They are dead and can give you no dialog, but they knew how to design their books to be alive. What psychotherapist is smarter than Stendhal, Kierkegaard, or even Saul Bellow? None. Now, it is masculine to call things in a way that’s plain and literal, like a rural man would. Refer to your philosophical-ish activities as “learning,” not “personal development” — or far better yet, “reading.”

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  78. If you really like your therapist and think they are actually wise — then just don’t tell anyone about it.

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  79. What about the Columbine kid? Muslim?

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  80. The point of this whole thing was that the president instinctively blamed the police because his world view is such that the police are bad while he urged caution before judging the acts of home grown islamic terrorist.

    To bring in McVeigh, remember that Clinton used the Oklahoma bombing as a political instrument to blame his political critics.

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  81. If yer a soldier, you must be alpha in some way which you can expand into more of your self concept. Probably more alpha than me for example.

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  82. For example, just think of all the wusses who couldn’t cut it as a solider — and feel a little more arrogant.

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  83. askjoe – you really believe the number one of your country, the President himself – reall thnks the Police are (all) Bad?

    well, he is a cunt if he thinks that, but I truly believe it is your blinkerred right wing ideology that is imagining this.

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  84. Are you implying that there’s a connection between McVeigh and Kobold?

    As for this list, I wonder what the connection is.
    Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab
    John Allen Muhammad
    Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar
    Hesham Mohamed Hadayet
    Mohammad Asha
    Mohammad Sidique Khan
    Mohamed Almallah Dabas
    Mohamed Atta

    hmm..it must be because they were upset at the pluperfect anti-muslim backlash that could have occurred if they did carry out terror attacks.

    Also, remember Hasan Karim Akbar

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  85. I rather you talk about women. We get the point Roissy, you don’t like Obama. Anyways, I enjoy reading your blog.

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  86. First of all, NotMyPresident made his Gates comments based on only Gates’s words, and used the opportunity to blame whitey. It was only when public outrage and fact showed up and smacked him down that Barry the Scumbag backtracked.

    Second, Nobama is clearly playing the left-wing inconsistent strategy card: every left winger “victim” who claims “victimhood” by “the man” is automatically right and believed, but every left winger “victim” who is accused of “victimizing” someone else calls for restraint, nonjudgmental words and is probably wrongfully accused.

    Muslims are “victims” in the lefts ideology, especially radical ones, who most resemble left wing radical methods–Bill Ayers, anyone? No doubt if this had been an anti-abortion guy shooting up the base, Nobama would condemn him immediately and sick and wrong and driven by his evil politics.

    Nobama is a tool, and any shit for brains defending his inconsistency is a tool as well.

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  87. ananumis
    For example, just think of all the wusses who couldn’t cut it as a solider

    ~

    G-DUB for one.

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  88. I love the beta liberal bitches begging and yelling at roissy that he shouldn’t degrade the Beta-in_Chief. Shows how pissy they are, trying to tell a blogger what he should and shouldn’t post based on their tastes.

    All you beta fags—kindly go to feministing.com and enjoy your anal rapeage by the dykes there.

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  89. No Askjoe, I am implying that white-trash are just as capable of getting a gun/s and shooting indiscriminately.

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  90. Zunder the dunder:
    “G-DUB for one.”
    —lol. wrong again baby. GWB was a soldier—served in the national guard.

    But don’t let facts get in the way of your sheepfucking socialist narrative!

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  91. askjoe –

    Have you actually read the reports and documentation of the Gates incident?

    Obama’s sin wasn’t in calling the Cambridge police’s actions stupid, which they definitely were, it was his failure to acknowledge that Gates himself lost his cool and acted stupidly in alleging racism as well.

    This is a trivial matter, however, because Gates isn’t a public servant acting in a law enforcement capacity, so his behavior and conduct are not held to the same standard as that of officers of the law. If you can’t appreciate this important distinction of responsibilities and accountability in the two primary actors here, you’re unqualified to comment on Barack Obama’s tangential and ultimately inconsequential role in this matter.

    If you’re a white cop who gets bent out of shape at being called racist, you’re in the wrong fucking line of work.

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  92. Zunder, being zunder:

    “you really believe the number one of your country, the President himself – reall thnks the Police are (all) Bad?”
    –everything the man’s done and said in his life prior to becoming president indicates this.

    But hey—facts are meaningless to liberals like you, right, shit for brains?

    ” I truly believe it is your blinkerred right wing ideology that is imagining this.”
    —and I truly believe you are extremely fucked in the head, pussy.

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  93. blinkered right wing ideology? Why not comment on shit you know about, what’s going on in Kiwi politics?
    Second, you leftists seem to be unable to make actually points, relying on totemic phrases that are apparently supposed to make a point (avoid the issue and just call it a rant, a Beck listener, a Palin fan, Limbaugh, etc. Oh, great, now some incoherent W bashing.
    Anyway, to put it simply, in America, leftists will always assume that police are racists targeting innocent blacks. So yeah, Obama comes from that mindset. Does it mean he wouldn’t call the police if his house was robbed, no, but he did call them stupid while admitting that he didn’t know the facts.

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  94. Obama is no Beta.
    When you wake up to that fact, fucknuckle?

    Lol. I love the way these right wing baptist/christian fanatics think they are ALPHA.

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  95. Patrick, an idiot:

    “Have you actually read the reports and documentation of the Gates incident?

    “Obama’s sin wasn’t in calling the Cambridge police’s actions stupid, which they definitely were,”
    –You clearly never read anythign about the incident. The police were called because someone reported a 2 black men breaking into Gates home. Gates admits he and a cab driver had to bust his door open, because the lock was broken. When the polcie arrived, they found an hysterical man screaming at them and refusing to prove that he lived there. And then causing a public incident.

    They took him in for all the right reasons, idiot.

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  96. “Obama is no Beta.
    When you wake up to that fact, fucknuckle?”

    —lol. wow, you truly are on the kool-aid, huh bitch?

    http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/29/obama-beta-in-chief-in-23096-words/

    Go read that, and suck it, bitch.

    “I love the way these right wing baptist/christian fanatics think they are ALPHA.”
    —-and I love how animal-fucking dimwitted pussies think Nobama is an alpha.

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  97. National Guard eh. Gee, one tough soldier boy that G-Dub, hiding in the National Guard while the real Alphas joined the real army and fought the real battles.

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  98. I don’t think the Columbinites were white trash or shared McVeigh’s sympathies. Your style of “arguing” is just to call people names and shotgun out a bunch of unrelated, well not points, but things you think make a point.

    I have read the report, Patrick. Your point is that Gates isn’t held to the same standard as a cop? He was held to the standard of not being in contempt of cop and not creating a public disturbance. Anyway, you’re just obfuscating. It’s all so complex and deep that we can’t draw any conclusions from certain events (unless we are bashing republicans, natch), got it.

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  99. Aww, go to Church lurker, and confess your gayness to the priest – he will probably numberclose you when you do.

    lol, baby.

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  100. lol Zunder. So you admit you were wrong. But now you say any soldier who’s in the reserves/national guard is a pussy, huh?

    This despite the fact that in America, thye regularly are called up for duty. So they do fight, qwuite often. Not like your pussy soldiers in Kiwi land, who never fight for anything, never win any wars,a nd hide behind American military might.

    You are a beta from a beta nation, bitch.

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  101. Dunder:

    “ww, go to Church lurker, and confess your gayness”
    –the only fag in here is you, you brain fart.

    “to the priest – he will probably numberclose you when you do. ”
    —why, when I can wait to download the video of you and bessie making sheep babies and crying like a faggot?

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  102. Thats the best you can comeback with? The well worn Sheep jokes.

    lol, baby.

    How many days did BETA BUSH serve in the National Guard?

    lol, baby.

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  103. Beta nation?

    What kind of fag nation plays football with pads on?

    Come down here and play a bit of rugby, you christian fag boy.

    lol

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  104. lurker – needless to say, you’re wrong and your comment,

    “when the police arrive the found a hysterical man screaming at them”

    is an abject lie.

    read Crowley’s own report, and stop pulling lies out of your ass:

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates2.html

    “Took him in for all the right reasons,”

    Wrong. Crowley let his (understandably) wounded pride get the better of him and after failing to control the situation, he chose to use the power of his public authority to teach Gates a lesson – a lesson that Gates no doubt deserved – but NOT one which he should be taught at the hands of a police officer who’s lost his cool and lost control of the situation.

    Did the big bad liberal PC police make the prosecutor drop the charge against an obviously guilty man, too?

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  105. zunder the dunder:

    lol baby. a bunch of faggots playing tag with each other, and you think that makes you tough? lmao.

    You and your pathetic fag nation better thank your lucky stars there is a real alpha country to protect your scrawny asses.

    Well was. The beta in chief is destroying that quickly.

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  106. Zunder,

    You’re a fucking dumbass.

    Just about any average player in the NFL would murder those pussy rugby players. I’m currently picturing Brian Urlacher decapitating some loud mouthed aussie/kiwi faggot.

    Rugby players are built like soccer players with a little more upper body muscles. It’s pathetic. Please don’t try to compare them to the superior athletes playing in the NFL.

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  107. Patrick, get a clue, you fucking liberal “police are all raaacist” pussy.

    a crazy man screaming nonsensical things like”why, because I’m a black man in america?” Note the phrase “while yelling” and consider your ass owned.

    Every cop on the scene supported Crowley’s decision to arrest Gates, including the black ones. Its shit heads like you trying to paint a racialist liar like Gates as a victim.

    Crowley did everything right. Gates is a hysterical numbnuts. Case closed.

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  108. While I am centre-left politically – whatver your political bent, the facts are that the commies have had the most ALPHA leaders.

    Cuba = Fidel & Che

    Russia = Lenin, Stalin

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  109. “Did the big bad liberal PC police make the prosecutor drop the charge against an obviously guilty man, too?”
    –actually, yes. Nobama put pressure on them to make incident go away. They made a choice: try Gates—with a left wing cambridge jury and idiots like you defending everything Gates said or did and blaming a blameless cop—or drop it in return for a Gates apology.

    Guess which one they took, bitch?

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  110. And Nobama isn’t one of them, baby. That’s why Castro, Iran, Chavez, etc. are walkign all over them.

    Zunder: the EPIC FAIL from a beta faggot nation.

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  111. @ Chuchundra– At this time, there are still a lot of things we don’t know about Major Hasan and the massacre at Fort Hood. It probably does make sense to withhold judgment until all the facts are in. Unless you’re just looking to engage in free form religious bigotry. In which case, go right ahead.

    There is a whole lot we do know about him that most of the media, especially the TV media, are keeping largely hidden. Virtually no one is going after it hard.

    We who have done just a modicum, ten or fifteen minutes or so of online digging of print news sources, know that he was being deployed to Afganistan (or perhaps Iraq), that having been switched from Iraq due to his great expressed unhappiness about the deployment, both of which he was deeply opposed being deployed to. He’s single, apparently doesn’t have a girlfriend, and has apparently never been deployed out of the country, though he’s been in the military eight years I believe, most of that in medical training as a psychiatrist on the Army’s money (after becoming an ostopathic = second rate – doctor, an OD not MD) . We know his reasons for REALLY not wanting to go are deep opposition to both wars. We know he very much sides with the Muslim insurgents and against the US military in both. We know that he considers suicide bomb attacks on enemy soldiers to be an act of heroic fighting, and not true suicide prohibited by the Koran. He has said so on websites discussing that and related issues.

    We know that he got poor performance reviews as a working Army psychiatrist in Bethesda, such that he had to be transferred. (He clearly should have been cashiered out of the Army at that point read on.) We know that he regularly argued with other soldiers and tried to convince them that the US missions in both countries were wrong and that those fighting the US military in both countries were right, and that he did so with patients. We know it’s extremely likely that at last part of the reason for his poor performance reviews in Maryland were that he mixed his passionate politics with his psychiatric counseling of deeply disturbed soldiers including those back from deployment in Iraq and Afganistan.

    In other words we know he was identifying with the enemy through and through. We know he was in effect a fifth column in our military, at the mid level officer level, in an important position for maintaining morale and bolstering mentally shattered soldiers – and that he was demoralizing those he counseled – or at least that the later is extremely likely.

    But is the press all hot all over that as a possible scandal? No. Is it up in the Army’s face for why they didn’t discharge this man from the Army some time ago – dishonorably? No.

    It’s utter lunacy for the Army to keep a psychiatrist with his views expressed to patients on in the military, and even more lunacy to send him into the war zone. And yes his Islamic faith was obviously a factor. Which is not to say that it keeps all Muslims in our armed forces from being loyal to their service duty and country, not to even get to what he doesn’t tell us about our civilian Muslim population necessarily.

    @adrian—There’s nothing rabid right wing about what he says here at all. You sir sound like an ideologue. But hey if you want to let that keep you from benefiting fully from Roissy’s game, gender realism and anti-feminism wisdom, go ahead. Lose out. Btw, I’m a registered democrat in NYC.

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  112. Lol, Mr Human

    Are you fucking serious? You poofters have both attack and defense, and spend most of the time on the field having a rest.

    In the rugby codes, especially rugby league, you do both attack and defense with no rest.

    watch this:

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  113. I said above.

    We know that he considers suicide bomb attacks on enemy soldiers to be an act of heroic fighting, and not true suicide prohibited by the Koran.

    To be clear, army psychiatrist Major Hasan considers the US Armed forces to be those enemy soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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  114. And, baby? lol. The video of a bunch of pussies playing butt tag.

    Urlacher would rape those fags and eat their children for dinner.

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  115. Zunder: the EPIC FAIL from a beta faggot nation.

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  116. Lol, lurker baby – your ‘roided up NFL fags wouldn’t last two minutes playing the real mans game.

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  117. JC

    She said she didn’t want to get back together, and that I should find someone else so then we could be friends (she knows about Ladder Theory). I maintained state control. I was pushing the angle of “let’s be friends in the context of seeing if we’re right for each other now, a lot has changed in the last year” – I put stress on the “seeing if we’re right for each other now” part, because I’m not going to be a vagina spineless beta friend. She was on the fence about it, and at the end I asked her (stupidly) how we’re going from here, and she wavered between keeping the line of communication open or her calling me, then said she would call me.

    This was yesterday (Friday). I think the odds are decent that she’ll call in the next 2-4 days, and I think I’ll follow up in a week or so and invite her to go hiking or something if I don’t hear back.

    If she does call or text you, reply that on reflection she was right. We should each go our own way now. Say you do need to find someone else you care about as much or more than her.

    That’s by far your best play for maintaining any hope of reattracting her.

    Her waivering is due to either 1) her feeling it was easier to make you feel that way so you’d stop pressing her in your face to face; or 2) her not being totally sure about whether her interest in you might rekindle since you did seem less beta and needy than she last remembered you. (But still a lot more beta than your self perception of this meeting, for sure.)

    Either way, it’s gonna go downhill to a certainty if you start up with her again now. Yes I’m sure. Only question is how long she’ll let seeing you go on before she breaks up with you again. Taht will be total forever curtains.

    So as Bhetti said, give it a rest for now – for at least six months to a year. And get a hot other girl in the meantime. At least hottish, or cute. That is critical. It will change you and will also allow you to DHV / show social proof to her. You’ll be able to find ways of letting her know. The less it seemed you tried to the better.

    Really you’ll likely be better off moving on permanently no matter what, as I said to you in some detail last time you posted up about this girl here. But for sure it’s you’re only hope to actually make something work with her that you do temporarily.

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  118. Most of your best sportsmen, especially football players, are black anyway.

    How does that sit with a white-trash supremist racist right wing zealot fanatical christian faggot like yourself?

    lol. baby.

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  119. Real men don’t fuck sheep, play butt tag, and have their failure of a military hide behind the American military alphas, baby.

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  120. We have great sportsman, baby; you just have faggot betas playing grab ass.

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  121. Woman is allergic to husband’s semen. HAHAHAHAHA

    http://www.aolhealth.com/health/womens-health/semen-allergy?icid=main|aimzones|dl3|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolhealth.com%2Fhealth%2Fwomens-health%2Fsemen-allergy

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  122. JC–

    I just got to the second comment to you from hot babe Bhetti.

    Yeah, what she said. She’s dead on. She’s learned more about guy game after hanging around here for six or nine months or so than a whole lot of guys here have. Yeah she has the advantage of being able to introspect as a girl on what would work with her — except most girls CAN’T do that accurately worth squat. Particularly when they’re near as young as Bhetti.

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  123. Yeah, again, great sposrtsmen, mostly Black.

    B L A C K, baby. lol

    Muhammad Ali
    Tiger
    Jordan

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  124. Actually, your arguably greatest athletes was Jim Thorpe, an American Indian no less.

    Yeah, you really treated him well.

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  125. lol baby. I love raaacist liberals. So fun to watch their inconsistencies come through.

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  126. @adrian—

    There’s nothing rabid right wing about what he says here at all.

    You sound like an ideologue, with no more going that what you regard as shameful name hurling.

    But hey if you want to let that keep you from benefiting fully from Roissy’s game, gender realism and anti-feminism wisdom, go ahead. Lose out. Btw, I’m a registered democrat in NYC.

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  127. An example of truly alpha politics:

    Forcibly sterilize everyone, both genders with sub-20 percentile IQ.

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  128. In 2009, calling a white cop “racist” is akin to calling a black cop the n-word in 1959.

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  129. Zunder,

    They’re glorified soccer players that run ZERO plays and pitch the ball back and forth while playing butt darts. There are no specific positions (except maybe scrum positions) and no tactics involved. The NFL thrives on superior athletes with actual PLAYS. Oh, and yeah football was almost outlawed after a dozen players died at the beginning of the 20th century.

    Let’s examine a specimen like Adrian Wilson (Arizona Cardinals safety): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vL19q8yL54

    Who cares what percentage of athletes are white or black? There is talk swirling around the MLB that there aren’t enough black players on teams and that there’s some illegitimate reason behind this. Yes, the betacons want affirmative action in sports now!

    I am all in favor of a meritocracy. The absence of such in the United States worries me greatly.

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  130. Zunder, feel free to make a point at any time.

    I should’ve realized it earlier but Z-troll hasn’t done anything except insult my country and make insane, unsupported political statements. Ztroll is a twelve year old. I’ll let Lurker interact with Ztroll.

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  131. JC–

    If I don’t pursue this now, after 5 months of not talking and over a year being broken up (which I screwed up royally – the details would have you squirming) – when’s the opportunity?

    That does make it a little different than what I’d thought.

    But you do need to make her feel twinges of jealous by doing other girls and having them want you. Other at least cute girls, with value in your ex’s eyes.

    Still you’re better off focusing elsewhere. Really.

    Even if she does get back with you, do you think she’s gonna feel MADLY in love? Settle city.

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  132. Zunder is one of those latent homos who get all atingle (like Chris Matthews for Obama) at the thought of black males.

    Of course, Zunder lives in New Zealand. Likely saw very few blacks in his life. It’s all idealization; sort of like he idealizes Lenin and Stalin. Perhaps he shouldl sucking fat Maori cock instead.

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  133. Great commentary…. but belongs in a separate political blog. Great fuckin’ commentary, though…

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  134. Clearly, someone doesn’t need the advice ’cause he’s moving on. Sure, he’ll mope appropriately but as if he’s going to remember it when an interesting, good-looking woman crosses his path and new possibility is in the air…

    Anyway, thank you for your interest. I do realise you weren’t flirting, just playing.

    Can’t it be both? A little harmless flirting never hurt anyone – I’m sure your sheikh proposer would agree 😛

    Even if she does get back with you, do you think she’s gonna feel MADLY in love? Settle city.

    Doug: you’re right, that’s a really big problem. It’s a rule of evolutionary psychology that once a girl discovers your inner beta, even if you reconnect later, you will always be five steps behind the ball, and every mistake will be amplified through the prior beta lens. Ugh – if only I knew now what I knew before.

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  135. Err – if only I knew before what I know now. Lol.

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  136. “Obama spent the first nine years of his life raised a Muslim, with a Mom who was weak and PC-ridden, and a nice but corrupt Indonesian guy not his father that his Mom did not respect and hen-pecked. Obama sought “strength” by identifying with the boys who threw him in canals for being part Black and American, and could decades later recite the call to prayer in Arabic to NYT reporter Nick Kristof.

    Obama somehow (never explained) roomed with a Pakistani Muslim while at Columbia, and spent an unexplained summer in Pakistan while at Columbia where he had no friends or family. He was very likely at the Mosque extensively at Columbia. His first book is full of criticisms of his room-mates abandonment of Islam (eventually) for drugs and praise for his half brother’s conversion to Islam. These are all things we know about Obama.

    He is culturally Muslim, he is not culturally American, and is indeed hostile to America, Americans, and particularly White Americans. His “shout out” to some guy in the audience on the occasion of another Jihad by a Muslim killer in the US was telling — he also hates the Military and (again) Americans as the famous picture of him cradling his crotch during the National Anthem while even Hillary and Bill Richardson have their hands over their hearts attests.”

    Obama naturally extricated himself out of the ranks of dumbasses (that’s all of you blog readers) whether white, black or purple, to the level of prominence and he did it on merit alone. When he calls out for people to do some action, he calls on all Americans, although it’s obvious that some have more work to do than others.

    There is virtually no evidence that he is religious at all other than paying the necessary pretense to the braying morons who distort the constitution in their feeble attempts to feel safer in the inevitable light of death.

    It is always fascinating (and entertaining) to watch as people, who are incapable of rational perception of the world, try to mould everything into neat brackets of religious beliefs. There is one simple message that could save them a lot of time: experiment. And if you can’t, then read upon the notes of those who could. There are wonderful things waiting for you to discover that no conservative quack can come close to dispensing.

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  137. Roi-ssy = R (N) C?

    Oui, c’est possible!

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  138. on November 7, 2009 at 7:26 pm Stud Dynamite

    Cut roissy a break. He lives in DC and Obama’s been pretty big among the certain type of chicks (image search Obama’s coming, open wide). I’m sure he encounters that pretty often and thus sick of him. Not to mention its roissy’s site and he can post whatever, you on the other hard don’t have to read or like all of it.
    Now, that said, suck it, in-evolution-not-believing, sanctity-of-marriage-babbling, Palin-is-hot mission-accomplished con morans in comments. Go “your own way” to freerepublic already. Your input on game is pretty much nil anyway.

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  139. George Bush is plenty brave — he flew one of the most dangerous jet fighters ever supplied to the U.S. Air Force. He could have easily spent 2 years in the army behind a desk somewhere (only about 1 out 20 soldiers served in combat in Vietnam). I suspect his motivation in joining the National Guard was to drastically reduce the TIME he spent in uniform, not avoid danger.

    Obama, like all Leftists, sees the world in terms of opressed and opressor. Whites, and especially white males, are the opressor class. Anything done by a member of the opressed class is due to some pathology produced in them by past or current opression. He firmly believes this.

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  140. on November 7, 2009 at 7:46 pm Stud Dynamite

    JC, my 2c, there is a right way to “be friends” for you. Stay in touch, basically leave on talking terms, friend each other on facebook, hang in the social circle, but not too close. I.e. come to same parties, chat/take pics with her crew if met in a club, etc. Then you can start subtly gaming her, with a major part being that she sees you with other women. Still, not quite sure what’s so special about her. When you F 9 more OW, you might wonder yourself.

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  141. Stud: we don’t travel in the same circles. She’s on her way toward becoming an opera singer and businesswoman; I’m in law school. We have no true mutual friends.

    She’s special because: (1) she’s a 8.5-9 (to me); (2) she’s got good morals and values and would make a good mother; (3) she’s incredibly hard working; (4) she put a tremendous amount into the relationship even when I wasn’t upholding my end of the bargain; (5) she doesn’t sleep around (wife material, not slut material). She does have downsides: (1) She’s Russian and with all that entails – i.e. a status whore; (2) she thinks she’s perfect and doesn’t admit when she’s wrong; (3) she has a will of absolute iron, (4) she’s deceptive, not just to me but to herself.

    Additionally – while my higher calling is figuring out my own personal truth, her higher calling is creating a beautiful life for herself. These may be mutually incompatible life goals.

    Hopefully I can find better, but so far it’s been a challenge.

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  142. Take that up your big, obese Republican butts. While you guys sit here wanking off over Obama is a racist/Muslim/not born in the USA, he is making history. You pathetic bitter morons best head over to RetardState or FreakRepublic and wallow in your collective sorrow.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/health/policy/08health.html?hp

    Health Reform Passes a Big Test, With Obama’s Aid

    WASHINGTON — President Obama exhorted Democrats on Saturday to approve a sweeping overhaul of health care and to “answer the call of history” as the House began debating legislation that would transform the nation’s health insurance system.

    Democrats quickly took a significant step toward passage of the plan by surmounting a key procedural hurdle in approving the rules for debate.

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  143. This post is an obvious attempt to get long time Roissy reader, Sarah Pahlin, to give in and give Roissy some alpha poonanny.

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  144. We know it’s extremely likely that at last part of the reason for his poor performance reviews in Maryland were that he mixed his passionate politics with his psychiatric counseling of deeply disturbed soldiers including those back from deployment in Iraq and Afganistan.

    There really should be no softness given to religious and political views when it comes to contradicting the tenets of the existing culture in the country. Here, we have a bigger extreme where it even has an effect on a patient’s care. The number one person is the patient: you mention religious or political beliefs only if it makes them feel more comfortable and normally avoid. This was clearly very bad practice.

    Why tiptoe around someone’s beliefs, why? Sure, allow muslims in the army. But why allow shame and correctness from watching them closely and having zero tolerance when you’re having wars in muslim countries and its theoretically a muslim tenet of belief to prioritise their fellow muslims over any others?

    Why work for the Army if you’re against what they do? I wouldn’t. And I don’t think anyone should let me as a muslim without watching me carefully.

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  145. How can this blog be so Republican when it is written by a sensible atheist? Can’t figure it out. You want abortion to be illegal?

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  146. How can this blog be so Republican when it is written by a sensible atheist? Can’t figure it out. You want abortion to be illegal?

    Ladies and gentlemen of the traveling circus, for our next act, behold a man so blind…that he can not see beyond the red/blue dichotomy fed to him since birth!

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  147. on November 7, 2009 at 9:04 pm sorry to bring my politics to the table

    This guy put bullets in at least 43 HUMAN MOTHERFUCKING BEINGS.

    He killed 13 and wounded 30.

    He no doubt shot at MORE PEOPLE and missed a few. Its very likely he attempted to shoot at least 50-55 of his fellow soldiers in the United States Military.

    He yelled “Allah Ahkbar” (or some such spelling thereof), which means “God is Great” in Arabic, and is universally used as a jihadist war-cry. He prepared for the event by having 2 automatic pistols with extra magazines.

    And Borat Hussein O’Chicago can only say some horseshit (lie) like, “we dont know all the facts”.

    I hope all of you patriotic and loyal Americans really let that lie seep into your consciousness. Borat Obammy thinks he can tell you the sky is green and the grass is blue and the water is tangerine and you will believe it because you think he’s the Obamessiah.

    Our military’s morale is not supernatural. They are human beings. This is disgusting.

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  148. JC:

    She’s special because: (1) she’s a 8.5-9 (to me);

    I reckon you’ll be revising this down, anyway. But well done. If you got an 8.5-9, it’s more likely to be awesomeness rather than er… luck.

    (2) she’s got good morals and values and would make a good mother;

    church, country gals, areas not in America… basically if you’re really having trouble: go foreign.

    (3) she’s incredibly hard working;

    do you really need that in your woman? Most women are good at being good at their jobs, anyway. It’s the relationship side of things. They’re going to drop out on maternity leave if you give them babies, though.

    (4) she put a tremendous amount into the relationship even when I wasn’t upholding my end of the bargain;

    Guilt on your side. But every woman will put a lot of effort in for a man she loves.

    (5) she doesn’t sleep around (wife material, not slut material).

    See (2). This isn’t rare as long as you know where to look and as well it’s not much of a problem with some lightly applied Game principles.

    She does have downsides: (1) She’s Russian and with all that entails – i.e. a status whore;

    Having personal experience with this, I can tell you it can be a horror to finances and kids’ psychology.

    (2) she thinks she’s perfect and doesn’t admit when she’s wrong;

    Egad. Run for your life.

    (3) she has a will of absolute iron,

    She thinks she’s perfect and she’s iron-willed and she’s a status-whore? My friend, you have just had the luckiest break in your life. This was a recipe for a lifetime of buying things you didn’t want and doing things you didn’t want to do. As well as drama, so much wanting things she doesn’t need drama.

    (4) she’s deceptive, not just to me but to herself.

    She would have happily blamed you for all her inadequacies instead of fixing them herself. The pedestal is smashed: throw it out of the window into a lake of acid, my friend. QED.

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  149. Adrian: giving Zunder the dunder a run as the biggest ‘tard on the blog.

    Note how zunder ran away, lol. Poor wittle beta, going to watch his other beta countrymen hide behind the american military.

    pussy. lol.

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  150. sorry, america is over. It’s funeral was the day NotMyPresident was inaugurated. Enjoy the chains boys; he’s putting them on us all.

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  151. on November 7, 2009 at 9:17 pm Stud Dynamite

    JC – the only way anything can work is if she “sees you as the prize”. Otherwise, if you’re lucky she’ll have nothing to do with or LJBF you. If you’re not, you’ll get into a pretty bad relationship. A lot of red flags too. Iron will may only work if yours is even “ironer”. Hypergamy pretty much is not a choice (unless she’s a dominatrix I guess). Perhaps with her good values, you can be her provider and not get screwed. But is it what you want? What for? Look at Clooney.

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  152. Bhetti:

    I reckon you’ll be revising this down, anyway. But well done. If you got an 8.5-9, it’s more likely to be awesomeness rather than er… luck.

    Luck of the status whore draw. I come from a wealthy family and we met at a social event at the family house. Instant sparks and chemistry, and that propelled me forward through a lot of the initial beta mistakes. That and the long distance thing kept it going for so long.

    church, country gals, areas not in America… basically if you’re really having trouble: go foreign.

    I’m in LA. Probably the worst city on the planet for quality girls.

    do you really need that in your woman? Most women are good at being good at their jobs, anyway. It’s the relationship side of things. They’re going to drop out on maternity leave if you give them babies, though.

    It’s her hard workingness that makes her a status whore and not a gold digger. Whether the woman I love works hard at home or at work, I do want her to work hard.

    She thinks she’s perfect and she’s iron-willed and she’s a status-whore? My friend, you have just had the luckiest break in your life. This was a recipe for a lifetime of buying things you didn’t want and doing things you didn’t want to do.

    Intellectually she has some severe faults. A big part of my hangup stems from my personal upbringing where I was denied nothing growing up. This is the first failure in my life that has meant anything substantial to me, and having not faced failure growing up, it’s a bitch to work through psychologically at 25.

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  153. *Intellectually I recognize that she has some severe faults. Much different sentence, lol.

    Perhaps with her good values, you can be her provider and not get screwed. But is it what you want? What for? Look at Clooney.

    I’m a romantic at heart and I want a loving and lasting relationship. I’ve educated myself enough to know that I can’t get it by being beta, but I don’t want to end up like Clooney any more than I want to end up as a vagina beta.

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  154. The more you expose Jomama for the windbag fraud-latto that he is, the more frothing-at-the-mouth hysterical they become.

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  155. “They” being his followers/cultists, I obv meant.

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  156. I’m amazed at all the stupidity on this thread. Where are all the whiny lib-boys coming from?

    Roissy is not saying that Obama is a secret Muslim. He is saying that he has a passionate identification with his race that is remarkably absent with regard to the country he governs and military he commands.

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  157. Take that up your big, obese Republican butts. While you guys sit here wanking off over Obama is a racist/Muslim/not born in the USA, he is making history. You pathetic bitter morons best head over to RetardState or FreakRepublic and wallow in your collective sorrow.

    Does he get a blowjob with that too? “Making history” – oh, you’re not wrong, he’s making history for quickest balls-up of a Presidential agenda (Bush a close second).

    Btw, one needn’t be obese nor Republican to dislike Jomama. I wouldn’t expect a binary thinker to understand that, though. Subhumans are not known for nuanced understanding.

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  158. This is Roissy’s blog, if he wants to discuss politics it is his go. Jesus. I don’t cater to the demands of whiners on my blog, what the hell makes you think self-consciously alpha Roissy is going to?

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  159. on November 7, 2009 at 9:44 pm Stud Dynamite

    JC, forget for a second all the alpha, beta, attraction and game stuff. Let’s assume you got it all down and it will work. Now look at the dynamics – you’re asking a chick to let you come back and be the provider husband for her, willing to do whatever it takes to get into a role (learn Game etc) that benefits her. Forget all the game rules, that prove that it won’t work at getting her wet and pretty much gives her a license to do whatever. Just tell me, how is that romantic? Romeo and Juliet is romantic. Perhaps if you’d come, sweep her and take her with you into a new life that would cinderella-style romantic. What I described above is Hallmark-tic, not romantic.

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  160. Isn’t it funny how bone-gnawing savages have to resort to fucking athletics to make whites “feel inferior”? Yeah, not many engineers, scientists, mathematicians, architects, etc in Abboland or KwaZulu Natal, are there? Hey kiddies, whites also dominate most sports, though you’d never know that gulping down all the ESPIN.

    You can jack off all you want trying to insult whites, we’ll just laugh at you.

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  161. Being very destructive and “making history” are not mutually exclusive of each other.

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  162. on November 7, 2009 at 10:02 pm Advocatus Diaboli

    Roissy,

    Why should Obama have any loyalty to a system that treated people who looked like him as less than human, based on how he looked (and his ancestry).

    Only a house nigger would accept second class treatment and still be loyal to his masters.

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  163. advocate,

    he SHOULDN’T feel any loyalty to the US, he should leave, immediately–and not be PRESIDENT of that country. and everyone else who feels that way should leave too

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  164. on November 7, 2009 at 10:13 pm Advocatus Diaboli

    dana,

    People like you have been telling people like him that they are not human and deserve to either slaves or die.

    Do you think he cares (about what you think)?

    His options:

    1] Care about you (and STILL be treated as a house nigger).

    2] Not care about you and do what he wants.

    No man with any shred of self respect will go for option 1.

    But then again, you see blacks as animals (not equals)…

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  165. @Adrian

    Hmmm, either mandatory insurance or federal prison and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines for individuals and families. Yeah, that’ll make the Dems, oh, so popular among the tax-paying middleclass.

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  166. ad,

    why would a person who felt that way about a country stay in that country? i don’t understand, i wouldn’t. and why would he want to be PRESIDENT of that country? and should the citizens of that country be happy their president feels that way?

    he isn’t just some guy on he street

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  167. @Advocatus Diaboli

    For starters, blacks are given the red carpet treatment in the US, currently. Black existence in the US is the product of historical conquest, and I don’t suppose you know what happens to most conquered peoples? They’re exterminated. However, the US decided to show magnanimity and eventually you get to what you have now, which is a situation where you have massive and systemic transfers of social resources from whites to blacks. If blacks have no loyalty, given future considerations to whites, do you think it’s going to take very long before whites are going to adopt a similar attitude?

    At the point where an actionable majority of whites figures out that black people, en masse, abrogate any sense of duty to US society, it ain’t gonna be pretty for blacks.

    Do you really want that day to come?

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  168. People like you have been telling people like him that they are not human and deserve to either slaves or die.

    Fuck off, you lying little cunt. Bantus hate white people and always have, since you set eyes on us. Now you think because of the history we have that it is your right to rob, rape and murder us at will. Go peddle your lies and guilt trip somewhere else.

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  169. JC

    Unless you change some things, I see some unfortunate signs of hopeless and irreversible pussiness on your part. I say these things for you own good so you can change your behavior and butch up. In a recent post you used LOL. Chicks use that. Or gay men. And in another post you used a cute little smilely face. A man should never use these expressions, ever. Teenage girls use such things. Or young, inexperienced and naive chicks like Bhetti and Hope. The use of these girly expressions on your part suggests an overly feminine interior that will repulse most women, except those who want to use you as doormat. If you continue using such things and continue pining about marriage and family even though you are only 25, I might start to think you are actually a lesbo masquerading as a man. Your first step to getting over this chick is to stop acting like a chick yourself. As I said, butch up.

    Most women despise men who are interested in marriage and family right off the bat; women want a challenge, they want to be able to earn your love and commitment. In all the great romantic stories of the world the men are always in one way or another unattainable. Chicks love that shit. It makes the gina tingle.

    You can change if you want to. Stop acting and sounding like a girl. If you do I can guarantee that will be the first step in having lots of women at your beck and call to chose from. If not, you will destined always to be doormat for women. Suck it up and forget this bitch and go out and fuck a ton of women for the next decade. Live and learn. Then you can think about marriage at age 35.

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  170. on November 7, 2009 at 10:28 pm Advocatus Diaboli

    dana,

    Don’t you get it?!!

    He may not care, but is in it for the entertainment?

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  171. ah, i see–you are not a serious person

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  172. on November 7, 2009 at 10:32 pm Advocatus Diaboli

    Asher,

    Blacks and others are in no mood to reciprocate your ‘magnanimity’!

    If you believe that power flows from a gun, you better pray that someone else does not get a better gun or a means to counter it. Primitive ape like dominance has it’s disadvantages in a technological society, that requires people to willing cooperate with the system

    The reality is that you screwed up and cannot dig yourself out of this hole.

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  173. I would hardly qualify Roissy as “right wing”. He’s anti-religion, pro-abortion, and certainly not a defender of tradition family values.

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  174. on November 7, 2009 at 10:35 pm Advocatus Diaboli

    Asher,

    many non-white countries now have the tech to fuck white countries over..

    If push comes to shove, you guys are definitely going to become extinct. It is YOU who should pray that things do not come to that..

    On an other note, how is your 600 year old economic system handling the effects of the industrial revolution and demography?

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  175. on November 7, 2009 at 10:37 pm Advocatus Diaboli

    Mike Hubbard,

    Come on.. what is wrong if they do to you what your ancestors did to theirs?

    Payback is a bitch..

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  176. Roissy raises a great point. Obama had absolutely no problem jumping to conclusions when a his buddy, a notorious anti-white racist, was arrested. However, now he wants to wait until all of the facts are in before “jumping to conclusions.” Obama is an embarrassment to the presidential office.

    Advocatus Diaboli, please do explain how Obama has ever been treated “as less than human” in this country. He’s been given undeserved and unearned handouts left and right throughout his life. Since when do subhuman people receive all of these benefits?

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  177. To Roissy [ & Co. ] :

    (Wow, a race thread in less than 200 comments. The trolls are getting better at sowing bullshit…)

    Anyway, question — What is the best way to break up with a girl if you are in the same social group as her and you don’t want to cause awkwardness, distress or hate within it?

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  178. on November 7, 2009 at 10:57 pm Advocatus Diaboli

    Kurt_S,

    How is the treatment that Obama got any less “undeserved” than what the kid of a rich WASP gets?

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  179. @Advocatus Diaboli

    *sigh* … too bad you didn’t even attempt to address the point that when you have one group entirely disavowing any duty to engage the social contract, that contract quickly evaporates. I have no idea what you meant when you babbled

    If you believe that power flows from a gun, you better pray that someone else does not get a better gun or a means to counter it.

    Are you saying that blacks, at 12 percent of the population and with relatively no inventive or organizational ability, are going to somehow counter the fact of white dominance? Look, I’m not a white nationalist, got zero desire to live in some sort of racially “pure” crap. That being said, my point remains, undisturbed by your nonsense, that, at some point, complete black abrogation of any loyalty to society will be returned.

    You simply can’t get away from that dynamic, regardless of whatever rhetorical squirming you manufacture.

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  180. on November 7, 2009 at 11:01 pm Advocatus Diaboli

    Asher,

    Whites are busy hanging themselves and backstabbing each other.

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  181. @Advocatus Diaboli

    Look, another way of looking at it is that even if whites are screwed so are blacks, because blacks in the US rely on whites for everything, and that will never change.

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  182. Well, I simply don’t understand what you’re trying to say here. Look, even if whites are, basically, engaged in a civil war, it’s not even plausible that “blacks” are going to emerge as some sort of victorious group. I use the scare quotes because the notion that there is any sort of black unity outside of a purely reactive element to white dominance is silly. If US society falls, blacks will feel the brunt of that collapse more than any other ethnic group.

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  183. Dynamite

    …What I described above is Hallmark-tic, not romantic.

    Pithy images.

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  184. on November 7, 2009 at 11:16 pm Cannon's Canon

    oh good… i was actually just lamenting that dana didn’t post here anymore. thanks for piping up, and let me say it once: i would overlook your ancient, decrepit physique and flawed ethnic makeup (j, that is) to make sweet, tender mouth-love to your pussy on a one-time basis, pending future considerations.

    i take myself too seriously, so i have typed and then deleted a few responses to the manics today.

    i am still astounded that so many indignant political-leftists frequent this blog. this indicates how far the anti-“tradition” passion flows. i believe it to be the curse of capitalism: it will bankrupt the most noble nincompoop, to his dismay.

    in my mind, game is remarkably akin to that howard rourke “hold yourself to your own standard, and delve wholeheartedly (only) into self-critique” ideal that flicked a switch for me.

    who in the fuck can argue that quantitative psycho-sexual success is “democratic”??? isn’t ‘vitalism’ a progression from failed ‘liberalism’???

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  185. As pained as I am to say this, I have to agree with Asher on a few things:

    [1] The continued health and wealth of the U.S. depends on these same factors applied to the white peoples within its borders. Only through the peaceful and productive diffusion of power and resources to other peoples will this ever change.

    I am not calling for such a change; I am only revealing its conditions.

    [2] Speaking from a position of EXPERTISE on the matter, there is NOT any sense of cohesion amongst blacks in the U.S. besides a general feeling of socio-economic and socio-political mutual victimhood.

    There are many sub-cultures, interest groups and ethnicities thrown together under the label of “black” for various conveniences and conniving.

    [3] In the event of any sort of social, political or economic collapse in the U.S., blacks WILL INDEED be one of the most hard hit, if not THE most hard hit groups.

    Whereas 40 or 50 years ago, there were solid bastions of self-sufficiency amongst blacks, now the vast majority of blacks in the U.S. are within the material/energy/time/information sinks known as “cities”, working in the service industry and possessing no solid civilization survival skills.

    Then again, most urban and suburban whites, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, etc. will be in similarly doomed circumstances.

    Force, coercion, necessary materials, skills and farmland will be the ruling factors of such post-SHTF scenarios.

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  186. Roissy, you know all about the game, but sadly, if you are against Obama, then you are just a sucker in the political game. Only suckers believe in the “History 101 for Idiots”, where America is only good, the rest of the world is evil, and that the USA has to protect the rest of the world from all the evil dictators in the world. That is what suckers believe! Are you a sucker? I thought you were smarter than that.

    The world is a complicated place, there are many more layers than what Republicans would like you to believe, and America is a great country, but we are an empire just like every other empire in history. We have good things, and bad things.

    Don’t be a sucker!

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  187. Ruby

    Anyway, question — What is the best way to break up with a girl if you are in the same social group as her and you don’t want to cause awkwardness, distress or hate within it?

    The way you frame the question creates a situation in which there is no answer. You can’t get there from here. There is no resolution to the tension you seek to avoid.

    Re-frame, and the “problem” disappears.

    You set the social scene. You decide what is akward or not – you don’t look around the room to see who is akward, and adjust your actions accordingly.

    If you don’t feel akward, and assume high social standing, those who agree with your social standing will agree that there is no akwardness.

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  188. @MiamiKing

    Your insinuation that Roissy is some rank, idealistic moralist has got to be one of the more amusing, and idiotic, assertions I’ve seen in awhile. Don’t you even read this blog? Roissy is a complete amoralist, the sort for whom “the most guns” is the final answer to everything.

    This original post is an observation that US blacks, in general, with exceptions of course, behave with absolutely zero loyalty to the US. This is not a moral condemnation of this lack of loyalty, but at some point this lack of loyalty will inevitably have a steep price. Either whites will grow wear of black ingratitude, or US society will recede, probably disintegrating into regional entities, which will hit blacks harder than any other ethnicity.

    It’s silly for blacks to not invest in the success of the US, because there ain’t not other game in town.

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  189. on November 7, 2009 at 11:41 pm Cannon's Canon

    Ruby: “What is the best way to break up with a girl if you are in the same social group as her and you don’t want to cause awkwardness, distress or hate within it?”

    become “too clingy”

    yeah this is difficult if you are of perceived ‘equal-value’. so, you are within the same social group and reserve the right be anti-undateable. thinking out loud, displaying too many better options won’t do it for you.

    when i was a sophomore in high school, a very nice, generous fat girl had a death-crush on me. soon enough, i upgraded that crush, off the positive airplay of my social status, to the hottest girl in the crew, aka the biggest boobs on a size zero. (ahh, high school)

    so yeah, my “friend” that i was trying to shake got dissed. she eventually got over it three or four years later, after she fucked my cousin as useless retaliation against me for fatty-fucking in front of her. she also sucked my cock in the booth of a bar that was closing to “prove” that we had definitely never not ‘wound up hooking up’.

    the girl of my pursuit was highest on the food chain, and her inferiors, though they were my “closer” friends, sought me out as the prize. the only one that i did not turn out (the least attractive) is the only one of these “lifelong” friends that i still hang with on occasion. btw, she is a female lawyer that i do not speak freely before.

    bottom line: the girls in your social circle will not hate you for upgrading, even if elsewhere. the guys, if they resent you for mistreating their fantasy, should not be among your close company.

    holler at your MFB!

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  190. Advocatus Diaboli, how many rich WASPs are there in this country? Certainly not as many as the 12 or 13% of the US population which is black. I’m sure that wealthy black families also have connections of their own.

    Black people in America get far more handouts than rich WASPs and a fool would deny this. I would love for Obama to release his SAT and LSAT scores so that we can compare them against the SAT and LSAT scores for rich WASPs and see who has been getting the bigger handouts.

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  191. Obama should be tried for treason, and when found appropriately guilty, hanged until his entrails fall out.

    Impeach the son of a bitch now!

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  192. on November 8, 2009 at 12:12 am Cannon's Canon

    i tried to “study” for the SATs against my average hour per night of homework, for about five nights in advance. i went 650-750 verbal-math. in the interest of trying something new, upon taking it a second time, i drank (five beers, significant back then at 150 lbs) the night before and scored a 670-780.

    my sister, who savored that type of thing, rocked a 1580 her first time out.

    last year, in an ‘unorthodox’ attempt to reel in my potential, my father revealed to me the previously-secret IQ score “in the 150’s” from back when i was about age six. it was an off-kilter tactic for him to make me “care again”. a previous manager, in a sales capacity, had worked this angle with me to great success, though coincidentally.

    thanks to cless alvein, i’ve tempered that rag to the 140’s at present. this has definitely been helpful in fighting the “i’m so alpha, i’m omega!” mindset.

    anyone who voted for obama is fundamentally flawed.

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  193. Roissy is a coward.

    At least Glenn Beck had the guts to outright call Obama a racist.

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  194. on November 8, 2009 at 1:00 am Cannon's Canon

    if roissy switched styles to a “mostly-political” blog, how many of these so-called “sarah-palin-is-hot”, high-falootin’, “intelligent-design” groupies… that so many of today’s obama-apologists qualify themselves against… would piss and moan this much about his radical discrepancies about his tutorials toward women? i would guess none. thus, the incongruence lays with the dems here.

    for the record, there has NEVER been an involved thread about sarah palin’s “hotness”, though there have been dozens that mentioned michelle o’s masculine jawline, linebacker shoulders, and characteristically disdainful expressions. can any man here say, nothing else considered, that he wouldn’t rather lay down with the isolated, creationist family-woman???

    ANYONE????

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  195. Zunder is one of those latent homos who get all atingle (like Chris Matthews for Obama) at the thought of black males.

    Of course, Zunder lives in New Zealand. Likely saw very few blacks in his life. It’s all idealization; sort of like he idealizes Lenin and Stalin. Perhaps he shouldl sucking fat Maori cock instead.

    @ Advocatus Diaboli
    Lucifer, is that you? demoted from No. 1 devil to a devil’s shyster… how’d you screw up this time?

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  196. on November 8, 2009 at 1:06 am Cannon's Canon

    ruby: xsplat put things better than i did regarding your admirer

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  197. PA,

    Why did you think that the devil’s lawyer was not the devil.

    Given that your ancestors spent 5-6 centuries torturing witches to find out how the devil’s penis looked.. what does that say about white intelligence?

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  198. I’ll say it again….Stalin, Lenin = Alpha.

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  199. on November 8, 2009 at 2:51 am Cannon's Canon

    WHAT on earth will you “say again”, zunder the dunder??? that the great leftists of history commanded their sway of pussy? do you advocate ‘slave-owner’ game? is that the political stasis… that your comrades pine for here??

    go practice your tennis, the sport of manly-men in your mind, you sheep-fucking poof! that’s no disrespect to homosexuals.

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  200. on November 8, 2009 at 3:44 am msexceptiontotherule

    Ahhh…there is…..such…..pain….much anger there is. Sadness, I feel.
    Lost
    many are.
    Suffering…on all sides.
    I must go contemplate
    in my
    fortress
    of security-system protected
    solitude.

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  201. on November 8, 2009 at 3:45 am msexceptiontotherule

    Where
    I also have
    much
    in the way of
    firearms.

    Just in case.

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  202. Charon said: The difference is that Muslims are at a much greater risk of suffering a backlash of bigoted violence and/or political oppression than are police.
    ——

    You’re just proving Roissy’s point. Thousands of Americans have been murdered here in the U.S. by radical muslims (including 13 dead and 38 wounded this week). And yet, the leftist obsession is not on the victims or how we can make sure it never happens again, but rather on make believe fears of “bigoted violence” and “political oppression” against muslims. It’s repulsive.

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  203. “And yet, the leftist obsession is not on the victims or how we can make sure it never happens again, but rather on make believe fears of “bigoted violence” and “political oppression” against muslims.”

    This is the leftist mantra everytime a minority is overrepresented in a certain type of criminal activity. If you showed statistically that immigration is the main cause in gang-rapes, murders and violence skyrocketing in recent years, the main concern of the leftists would be to take measures against potential “racism”, instead of defending the victims. According to the leftist worldview, it’s preferable to sacrifice more people on the altar of political corectness – like Fort Hood victims – than pointing out the real problem. Leftists are really scared of the moment when pretty lies perish, because they would perish too in the process of reavealing the truth.

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  204. You morons. I’m way on the right side of centre, but this level of paranoia only hurts our cause.

    It’s about statistics, facts and looking at the big picture.

    America has a problem with gun violence. Guys in the army routinely go AWOL. There was a shooting at the same base less than a year ago.

    Not every muslim with a gun === jihadist. This kind of sloppy thinking only weakens our position against the real jihadists.

    Get some perspective. The guy was mental, and flipped out. This should have been a matter that the chain of command in the army recognised, especially when Hassan himself was trying to get out.

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  205. Obongo’s loyalties lie with the non-white, the non-Christian, the non-American. Obongo venerates The Other. Obongo worships at the altar of the Multi-Cult, from which drips the blood of millions of White victims of anti-white rape, ethnic cleansing, and murder.

    America has an immigrant problem. A third world immigrant problem, to be exact. There will be MANY more incidents such as this one, thanks to the out-of-control third world immigration policy that is leading to the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the indigenous American population.

    Yesterday morning after the gym I stopped by the local mosque and Muslim elementary school to do a little ‘recon’ with my digital camera (you never know when this info will come in handy for future activities), and there were three (3) police cruisers parked outside the buildings. WTF?! The cops (2 white, 1 Asian) were standing beside the motor cars talking. I took a photo anyway.

    There are many Muslims in this city. The ones who seem to cause the most trouble are the Pakis. I know of two Muslims (Pakistanis) who have discussed going to Afghanistan to fight US troops. Another Muslim acquaintance, a very young European-looking Lebanese dude, has also talked about going to Afghanistan because, according to him, that is where the Mahdi will appear. He gets these ideas from a local Pakistani imam. Surprise surprise!

    Arm yourselves. Buy a handgun or a rifle. Take shooting lessons. History is a wise guide and it tells us that America’s experiment with Multiculturalism and Multiracialism will end very, very badly.

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  206. All you multicultist newcomers, Go Read Ten Other Blogs and maybe you can, like, reinvent yourselves and hook up again in a couple of years when the bad feelings have gone away.

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  207. on November 8, 2009 at 9:03 am Willard Libby

    PA

    Zunder is one of those latent homos who get all atingle (like Chris Matthews for Obama) at the thought of black males.

    So true. What is it about these kinds of White “guys”?

    Somebody needs to do a study on this. I don’t think they are really homosexual at all, most of them. Maybe the term is homosubmissive?

    But they are out there. They become aroused and “inspired” by certain black males, become fans/groupies and then lash out hysterically at any other White men who don’t share their emotional commitment.

    It really is an amazing phenomenon.

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  208. “…when I was a kid we called betas ‘pussy-whipped'”

    I think to be pussy-whipped you first must have pussy.

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  209. I don’t think they are really homosexual at all, most of them. Maybe the term is homosubmissive?

    That’s a good clarification. There certainly is a category of white guys who are normal hetero men, but have a psychological attraction of some sort to males of another race, usually black males. Maybe it’s a psycho-social submissive tendency toward a ‘superior’ male?

    I once participated on an Easter Euro-themed blog, on which the host was a hetero and very intellignet, but very PC / neoconnish non-Jewish guy that found every possible reason to suck up to “black maleness.” Even though there were hardly any Americans, much less black ones, on that blog.

    He made impassioned arguments for mass immigration of Arabs and Africans to EE, according to him because “we’re so wonderful we wanna share our wonderfullness wth the world. He also stressed that mass intermarriage. And wherever he had an opportunity, he liked to proudly note that his boss / wedding minister/ etc. is African American.

    With guys like these, and Zunder appears to be the type as well, arguing ‘anti-diversity’ sort of points requires a different tack. Pointing out things like crime stats, for example, will only serve to excite them even more on a subconscious level.

    This white male hetero/Afro-fetish is a real phenomenon. Likely present among anemic intellectual types with leftist inclinations. Probably prevalent among white sportscasters as well. To be fair, I also know a US-born E. Asian guy who is all atingle for black male celebrities and lashes out at anyone who criticizes Kanye, for example.

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  210. Nathan wrote:

    “It’s about statistics, facts and looking at the big picture.

    America has a problem with gun violence.”

    Blacks in the United States cause 50% of all violent crime, according to FBI statistics. That means America has a negro problem, not a “gun violence problem”.

    Hispanics aren’t much better, they cause a disproportionate amount of violent crime as well. Thank you 1996 Immigration Act.

    Why was this muslim in the USA anyway?

    When I was a kid, the neighborhood schools were unfenced, so that kids could use the playground equipment even during the summer. Now they are all fenced off with security. THe middle and high schools in my area all have law enforcement officers stationed on campus. Why? Because of increasing nonWhite demographics causing increased theft, violence, gang activity and other crimes.

    When I was a kid, all the neighborhood schools

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  211. What cracks me up are these “white males” who mimic Black dress and mannerisms. Talk about homosubmissive. Its no wonder White females are chasing Black males so much these days, if the males of their own race behave submissively towards Black males.

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  212. @Cat Patrol

    It’s the white devils’ fault. Don’t you watch CNN?

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  213. Nathan–

    Get some perspective. The guy was mental, and flipped out. This should have been a matter that the chain of command in the army recognised, especially when Hassan himself was trying to get out.

    No you PC doofus. The reason the chain of command turned a blind eye to the indications was obviously because of warped political correctness. “Can’t discriminate against him just because he’s a Muslin and shows sympathy for Muslim political causes.” That’s only appropriate up to a point when someone’s in a particularly sensitive position especially. As a mid level officer and an Army psychiatrist he was.

    It looks so far, far more a case of his fully identifying with the enemy in our war against Islamist terrorism than that he “was mental”. His was a deeply political act.

    All the indications are that he sympathized with Islamist attackers of US armed forces. He identified with the enemy. He was the enemy in our war on Islamist terror. And enemy we kept within our military since political correctness kept us from kicking him out.

    As an army psychiatrist he counseled soldiers including those deeply traumatized by their war experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan, this Islamist did, who got very poor evaluations for his work counseling soldiers in Maryland.

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  214. Well, I’m not advocating political correctness am I doug? I’m saying since he made his feelings clear, since he himself didn’t want to be deployed – the army should have discharged him.

    He got poor reviews, he had a problem with alcohol, he had made his political views well known and been reprimanded several times. Why was he still allowed to be part of the forces?

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  215. Because he’s a fucking camel fucking raghead and is therefore a minority. Ever had to fire a minority?

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  216. It’s interesting to see the reactionary/progressive breakdown on this blog.

    1) First, this blog deals with principles that only moderate to highly intelligent people can conceptualize (lower intelligence males can be alpha, but their positions are not conceptualized, rather instinctual).

    2) Moderately and highly intelligent people have been educated/indoctrinated in the university system, so they are heavily predisposed toward Progressivism. Additionally, Progressives are the party of power (and always have been, but that’s a different discussion), and the intelligent are attracted to power.

    3) On the other hand, this is a blog about game. Game is necessary today because society has fallen into a pre-civilizational state with regards to male-female relations. Good behavior is punished and bad behavior is encouraged. Therefore, game is reactionary because by its nature it’s against the general flow of society’s leanings.

    Congrats, Roissy. What a motley group of conflicted and confused conscripts you have on this blog.

    (As for me, I fall into the heavily reactionary camp. Fuck you, progressives.)

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  217. Nathan–

    He got poor reviews, he had a problem with alcohol, he had made his political views well known and been reprimanded several times. Why was he still allowed to be part of the forces?

    For the reason I said before.

    Because of political correctness.

    The reason merely poor performance reviews or trouble with alcohol didn’t lead to his being discharged most likely have to do with the rather severe shortage the Army has of psychiatrists. Those were not particularly warning signs for his going mass murdering against his fellow American soldiers. His radically political Islamist views in vehment and oft expressed opposition to our two active wars at the moment in Iraq and Afganistan were.

    (btw, I’ve come to think we should probably leave Afganistan as well, along the lines of John Derbyshire’s thinking. Leave it but warn we’ll come back abombing if they allow Islamist terrorist training bases on their soil again. That sort of opposition is vastly different than deeply siding with our Islamist enemies.)

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  218. Agrred on the last point doug.

    Michael Scheuer is someone everyone should read to understand Islamist violence.

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  219. So true. What is it about these kinds of White “guys”?

    Somebody needs to do a study on this. I don’t think they are really homosexual at all, most of them. Maybe the term is homosubmissive?

    But they are out there. They become aroused and “inspired” by certain black males, become fans/groupies and then lash out hysterically at any other White men who don’t share their emotional commitment.

    It really is an amazing phenomenon.

    You have just as intensely emotional, visceral, intense and knee-jerk a reaction at the mention of black males and their sexuality as the liberal white guys you criticize, just in the opposite direction. Therefore you are as fucked in the head obsessive as the white guys you describe. So criticizing them is hypocritical, you’re exactly the same. Maybe you should volunteer yourself to be the subject of a study if you want the answers you claim to seek, since you’re the same.

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  220. You have just as intensely emotional, visceral, intense and knee-jerk a reaction at the mention of black males and their sexuality as the liberal white guys you criticize, just in the opposite direction.

    Why? Because Joe says so, that’s why. Actually demonstrating his assertions is not necessary, because narcissists are always right.

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  221. Cobi: “The two situations are not at all analogous….”

    No, they are. The point of the post is not a comparison of the larger situations, but a comparison of Obama’s near-instant, spontaneous, unscripted, unconsidered, instinctual if you will, response to those larger, outside situations. Does that make any sense? The point is: what people say when they are not consciously thinking or planning out what they say = what they are _really_ thinking.

    Which is what this whole blog is about, really.

    Excellent form Roissy. One of the best takes on Obama’s response on the web I’ve seen. Certainly better that the shrill hothouse flower courtiers’ analysis I’ve seen in some so-called conservative blogs who style themselves critics.

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  222. So psychiatry being a selecting branch of medicine rather than a recruiting branch of medicine is a problem in America as well?

    Hmm, I wonder why that is.

    While we’re wondering:

    In other comments Mr Khan said that Maj Hasan had tried, but failed, to find an equally religious woman to marry. — BBC

    Could Game have saved these lives?

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  223. Excellent form Roissy. One of the best takes on Obama’s response on the web I’ve seen.

    What is amusing me to no end is that all he did was quote from two places and say ‘A Tale of Two Loyalties: that says it all.’

    I think someone may have actually called this brilliance ‘analysis’.

    In any case, such backlash from a post that is probably less than 100 words.

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  224. Why? Because Joe says so, that’s why. Actually demonstrating his assertions is not necessary, because narcissists are always right.

    Yes, because the proof Willard Libby’s had before making his accusation toward Zunder was SO MUCH MORE RIGOROUS.

    What I use in my claim against Libby is the same thing he uses when criticizing Zunder…his own comments. Whenever anyone mentions black males, black women, and their sexuality, he comes the woodwork drooling and frothing at the mouth to do deranged rants. So it’s not because I say so, it’s because Libby himself says so in his months and months of commenting.

    Idiot. If you don’t have a good comeback just don’t respond at all.

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  225. Willard, PA, Canons Canon and fuck-knuckles……….but especially Willard,

    What does pointing out your best sportsmen are mainly black have to do with being a latent homo towards blacks?

    I am very comfortable with my heterosexuality.

    Any twat (Willard) whom spends more than a cursory glance at BITCHIVILLE INCORPARATED’S blog (Wendy Schwartz), bothering, to comment at all on that slag’s rants, says more than anything about what a deranged fuckhead they are.
    Why you give that bitch the time of day?

    The best you, lurker, and co. can come back with is the well worn sheep fucker or latent homo crap. Fact is, I am getting to you because I wont back down to conservative christian cocksuckers and their looney white supremist shit.

    Joe made the point well- you are an idiot.

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  226. I wish the Right would finally come to grips with the fact that the War on Terror, the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the various and sundry “national security” matters that Conservatives support really serve only one purpose: to make America safe for the Democratic Party.

    Why can’t the Right realize that the vast majority of Red-States America is not, and will not, be affected by any level of terrorism and that terrorism is primarily a blue-state phenomenon? That all of their rabid support for the various Republican military programs ultimately benefit’s the Republican’s political enemies.

    Look at the ridiculous pissing matches between those on the Right railing against those on the Left. Don’t you guys realize that these Leftists don’t have a future? Between the non-white immigration that will swamp the Democrat Party, the looming nuclear bomb in New York, and the below-replacement birth rates, these liberals simply don’t have a future.

    But to send the children of the Sarah Palins of the world to fight wars so that the Tina Fey’s can send their kids to Harvard is ridiculous.

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  227. Bhetti,

    Learn how to read and quote.

    Or just make up your own misleading bullshit (strawman if you ever crack a book on logic).

    Look, I agree, it’s sad but true. Or mabye I’m just reading the wrong websites, but a lot of the other conservative wanna be cites I read focused on the ‘oh, first he gave a shout out to such and such, and then he got around to the mealy-mouthed stuff about non-discrimination.’

    The criticism that what Obama said was weak and mealy-mouthed was on the money. What made Roissy’s take on it –yes, merely quoting and comparing two lines, was that Roissy remembered something from a few months ago, something that was relevant, and made a great point about the nature of Obama –and a telling point if you think about it; about what that _real_ attitude of Obama means for Americans. Yes, it’s sad, but if you grade current social commentators on a bell-curve, then merely remembering something relevant from a few months ago is huge. Have you read Steve Sailor’s book on Obama? Do you even know who he is? No? Fuck yourself.

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  228. Fuck me. Sailer.

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  229. For every anti-Obama book there would be an anti-Bush book that dems would say “Have you read…….’.

    Books books blah blah blah.

    I like Roissy’s take on game and women – he knows his shit, but I am not going to kiss his ass when I don’t agree – and he is drawing a very long bow here, as I have previously mentioned.

    Just as for some under the previous draft dodgers regime, no matter what Obama does there will be those what will be anti.

    So it is with politics – and life in general.

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  230. on November 8, 2009 at 4:39 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    Your party’s VP nominee was Sarah Palin.

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  231. You think I’m kissing his ass when I disagree? No? Then what the fuck are you saying?

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  232. entrepon, where the fuck do I mention your name?
    I use the word “I”. Meaning me.

    so, what the fuck were you saying?

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  233. Zunder vs. Everyone Else:

    Your exchange is the sort of high-testosterone fuelled ‘men love spilling blood for the sake of spilling blood’ that extremist misandry is based on. Is misandry utterly baseless only in it’s extreme form?

    Men do need control exerted on them — I suppose — but primarily by pacificist women or by other men? [Although some women start fights; let’s not go there.]

    How in real life are these sorts of silly exchanges prevented:
    ‘You loser. You are wrong.’
    ‘You’re a bigger one. You are so wrong it’s ridiculous.’
    ‘You’re gay as well.’
    ‘You do it with animals.’
    ‘OH IT’S ON *punch is thrown*’
    *someone dies*

    This is all on the Internet and good, manly fun so carry on (not that you are awaiting my permission).

    However, I would humbly request you would all be more coherent so that if you are actually arguing about an issue of substance, the third person audience could actually learn something.

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  234. I would not be surprised to discover that bone-headed posts like this one are pranks that Roissy pulls on readers who are dumb enough to be persuaded by this level of reasoning.

    Nobody as smart about social dynamics as Roissy could be this stupid.

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  235. entrepoon: If I’m reading you correctly, you seem to be attributing some sort of criticism of the post above or the concise nature the point was made. I didn’t intend that so I apologise for my incoherency. I just found it amusing compared to the normal word count.

    Yes, I know who Steve Sailer is.

    (Sorry for emphasising the spelling mistake. I couldn’t resist.)

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  236. Alright Zunder you don’t know that the fuck your talking about, so let me spell it out:

    Exhibit A, noted by Roissy: Black guy loses his cool, gets arrested, and Our Great Hope Obama –while knowing Jack Shit about the case, shoots his half-black totally black sympathetic mouth-off, blaming whitey, case-closed. Aaaaaannnnd has to back track later. Over beer. With the white cop and the mad black professor.

    Exhibit B, noted and juxtaposed against Exh. B by Roissy for effect: Palestinian-American muslim late 30’s Army doctor blows away 12 or so and wounds another two dozen or so on an Army base, and that same Yes We Can Man –again while knowing totally Jack Shit about the situation, now urges restraint, urges a nice, slow, rational, passive, judicial, response.

    Why the difference? Why is it useful to compare and contrast his responses? What the fuck are you talking about with ‘long bow’? The disparity noted is not between the mistaken identity and the fuck-knuckle, but between Obama’s response and what that tells us? For instance, if we stuck Kelly Brook in front of you and watched your response, and then later stuck Ellen Degeneris in front of you, we could probably infer a few things by your response.

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  237. Fucking on alright ,Bhetti.

    I’d love to meet the tough guys that post on here, and dish out my own brand of justice.

    It that T filled enough for you?

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  238. Bhetti,

    Yes, I admire the concision too, if that’s what you’re now saying.

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  239. Zunder,

    So when you get proven wrong in arguments you beat people up? That’s your definition of tough?

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  240. Yeah he mouthed off about dome non-descript professor. Who gives a fuck.

    It is absolutely appropiate for him to watch what he says, legally, in a mass shooting by some nutfuck that hasn’t been brought to trial yet.

    I mean, like what the fuck, if he passed judgement on every alleged mass shooting gunman – he would be spending a lot of time in front of the camera. You seem to have some fuck-knuckle pulling off crazy shit like this every other week.

    What is it with your country and it’s specaility at producing crazed nutjobs that want to shoot up innocent fellow nationals?

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  241. entrepon
    proven worng?
    I don’t think so.

    Man on Man square ups? Whats the problem?
    Fair one on one punch ups – great. Bring it on.

    Mass murdering by cowards with guns – utlimate Beta action.

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  242. “Yeah he mouthed off about dome non-descript professor. Who gives a fuck.”

    I give a fuck. Shows where his loyalties are.

    So, just to get this straight:

    US President, chief executive officer of the federal government shoots his mouth off about a local police action and calls it –while knowing Jack Shit mind you, stupid,

    as against,

    Same US President, now [9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, immigration, hundreds of billions spent, debate about counter-insurgency vs. counter-terrorism, example of Europe, anti-discrimination, economy tanking, etc. etc. etc.], and a muslim US Army officer blows away some people at a base and, he says, hold it, let’s not jump to conclusions.

    I agree there’s a virtue in being politic, and two wrongs don’t make a right (meaning just cause he shot his mouth off on the cop thing doesn’t mean he needs to shoot his mouth off but with better aim this time).

    But the argument here is: Does Roissy, by comparing and contrasting those responses, make a valid point about Obama’s loyalties? Does the comparison not suggest, at least, a little wondering in your head about what Obama _really_ thinks? I say yay. You say nay?

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  243. By the way – my favourite Americna would have to be Larry Flynt.

    Imagine if he had not have taken on the conservative christian twatheads.

    He fouught the battle more for a free america than any of the right wing pussies that post on this blog.

    I’ll say it again: Conservative politics, by its very nature, is almost all about beta rule makers imposing their shit on alpha’s. And there is usual a fundamentalist christian rhetoric used to justify their conservative “don’t do this” “don’t do that” crap,.

    Don’t let left wing hippified dope somking tree huggers from San Francisco delude you from anything other than the fact that Conservatism is, generally, Beta.

    Gotta fly, my Republican friends.

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  244. That’s it?

    Ok.

    Ron Paul, btw.

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  245. zunder – you are dull. sod off.

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  246. Let me just say so that this comment has purpose, y’all need to support this bill:
    http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2009/11/finally-chance-to-reduce-false-rape.html
    please and thank you.

    entrepoon: I was saying that the concise way the point was made was brilliant (with no sarcasm); I was also saying it was not analysis. I insist you need more words and exposition for it to be analysis. There may be analysis behind it but it is not analysis itself. You cannot move me on this. No, sir, you can’t.

    Don’t let me distract you with that bit of insignificant pedantry.

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  247. Bhetti–

    @entrepoon: If I’m reading you correctly, you seem to be attributing some sort of criticism of the post above or the concise nature the point was made. I didn’t intend that so I apologise for my incoherency.

    You weren’t in the least incoherent. I understood you exactly. You were however being similarly concise.

    That Roissy could make a point that was so grating to many on the left who are reading here with so few words, none of them epithets or labels, is telling.

    It tells how much those on the left know Roissy’s observation get’s at truth – but they don’t care. They feel there are “bigger issues at stake”. And therefore want to clamp down such trenchant observations about their venerated dear leader. Roissy should stick to talking about game.

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  248. Bhetti

    Let me just say so that this comment has purpose, y’all need to support this bill:

    Yummy girl.

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  249. As much as you guys like to point the finger @ blacks for playing the victim, you guys seem to be doing pretty good job of it yourselves. You like to blame immigration, the government, globalization, muslims, feminists, gays – everyone but yourselves.

    The truth is that the US is in decline because we don’t make anything anymore. We are a net exporter of financial derivatives and little else. Having sutdied at a top 5 engineering program, and I can tell you that American natives were very much in the minority there. Working in high end R&D, I can tell you that only 30% of the scientists and engineers at my company are US natives. If it was’t for immigration and the influx of the intelliigencia from foreign countries, we’d be more screwed than we are now. Pretty much the only reason we still dominate in R&D and high end tech and manufacutring is because the US has a superior legal framework with respect to intellectual property rights, and the best and brightest from other countries want to live here. Please keep in mind that we draw the best talent because the US is a much more tolerant and open society than any other, mainly because of the efforts of all the various lefty -ists that you guys malign so much.

    If you don’t want America to go down the toilet then maybe you should have get married, have children and encourage them to learn math, not coast through college on a bullshit polysci, phsych or soc degree and go into a field like science or engineering where they’ll actually be creating something of real value. Maybe you should donate some of your time to mentor teenagers to put them on the riteous path. Maybe you should dedicate yourselves to something other than your own self absorbed, decadant, hedonistic pursuits and do something other than bitch about how you’re getting your asses kicked by people from other parts of the world that have their noses to the grindstone.

    Seriously, you guys whine like a bunch of little bitches. Sack up!

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  250. on November 8, 2009 at 6:35 pm Passing through

    Well said, Specimen.

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  251. on November 8, 2009 at 7:04 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””””””””’Whenever anyone mentions black males, black women, and their sexuality, he comes the woodwork drooling and frothing at the mouth to do deranged rants.””””””””””’

    The chick I am with for a minute who is black said she moved where she is from dc to live a better life for her and her kids. Every other day I hear about someone else that got shot back home or is in prison. She is in process of bringing a lot of people from the hood of dc to what used to be the all white area she lives now. I asked her where are you gonna go when you bring dc here and the same shit happens here as in the ghetto in dc?

    She didn’t really have an answer for that one.

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  252. The Specimen
    Please keep in mind that we draw the best talent because the US is a much more tolerant and open society than any other, mainly because of the efforts of all the various lefty -ists that you guys malign so much.

    cosign. the fact that we’ve never had a major Rwanda/ holocaust /Bosnia type civil war here speaks volumes.

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  253. Prettty embarrassing post, Roissy. Unsubscribed.

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  254. It’s sad that I have to remind some people here that there are millions of Muslims here in the US who are peaceful, upstanding citizens loyal to this country. Antagonizing them by attacking Islam won’t do you any good.

    For all we know, the man had a mental breakdown. That said, it’s probably not a coincidence that he yelled “God is Great” before his attack the same way Osama Bin Laden justifies all his crimes as Islamic Jihad. Why do so many Muslims seem to have a beef with the West? Yes, there’s an answer behind that question for anyone smart enough to ask. It starts with us stopping our shipments of F-16s to Israel that is uses to massacre defenseless Palestinian civilians.

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  255. @JC

    Everyone’s telling you to forget that girl but you don’t want to. If you forget her, then you move on. If you still want her back, the fact is that she’ll want you more if you move on. So both ways, the right answer is to move on. Go out and do something fun. I recommend buying a plane ticket. Is there someone in another state/country that you haven’t seen in a while? Call them up, tell them you’re coming for a visit, have a blast, take a lot of pictures!

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  256. The chick I am with for a minute who is black said she moved where she is from dc to live a better life for her and her kids. Every other day I hear about someone else that got shot back home or is in prison. She is in process of bringing a lot of people from the hood of dc to what used to be the all white area she lives now. I asked her where are you gonna go when you bring dc here and the same shit happens here as in the ghetto in dc?

    She didn’t really have an answer for that one.

    I was talking about how Willard Libby is as obsessed with black cock as he claims zunder is. You respond to my point with your utterly stupid and irrelevant anecdote above about some conversation you had with your black side chick about the ghetto.

    WHAT THE FUCK DOES ONE HAVE TO DO WITH THE OTHER GENIUS? You are so freaking STUPID gunslinger. Kill yourself. Please.

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  257. Allow me to encapsulate EVERY single left-winger’s response to this post:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/andrewklavan/2009/03/31/shut-up/

    Yeah, Roissy’s not a public utility. Sorry. Free speech is a bitch…for now, anyway.

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  258. lol zunder baby. Through your every post on this blog, decrying so-called “conservative” politics, you show ignorance on the scale of he-who-must-not-be named.

    You know absolutely nothing of America or American “conservative” politics (however you define them). You merely repeat what your left wing pundits in your god awful beta pussy country say, and do not look at the facts without them.

    Let me repeat that in terms your simple little beta mind can understand: everything you have said about GWB; Rush Limbaugh; the American constitution; liberal versus conservative politics; and international affairs; in short, EVERYTHING you have tried to “argue” has been 100% incorrect and wrong on a basic, factual level.

    You know nothing, baby. You hide behind the American military in your little pussy whipped country, pretending to be a tough alpha, but really taking your 3 inch penis and hiding whenever a female above a 5 waltzes into your view—which isn’t often, considering the ugly, toothless whores that dominate your pathetic little shitstain of a nation.

    Now you’re going to go back to fucking sheep on your god forsaken ass-grabbing pathetic little beta third-rate nation, you fucking pussy-ass troll.

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  259. joeI was talking about how Willard Libby is as obsessed with black cock as he claims zunder is

    I asked him about his obsession once and he never got around to giving me answer but something must have happened to him many many years ago to have that sort of hatred inside of him.

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  260. on November 8, 2009 at 10:36 pm unlearning genius

    @JC,

    Step out into the cold winter night that is reality fucker. You are way up your own ass with oneitis …GFTOW .. what the fuck are you doing over-analyzing this situation with bhetti ( i am sure she is smart, but perspective is perspective) ..

    You read alpha-beta stuff everyday, but internalize it man .. at the core of “game” is a cultivated nonchalance .. any one win or loss is too small to shake your ego ..

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  261. on November 8, 2009 at 10:40 pm unlearning genius

    @Lurker,

    “Now you’re going to go back to fucking sheep on your god forsaken ass-grabbing pathetic little beta third-rate nation, you fucking pussy-ass troll. ”

    Hands down, a hilarious post .. way up on the alpha scale too ..(no i am not being facetious at all).

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  262. “Unless you’re just looking to engage in free form religious bigotry. In which case, go right ahead.”

    Ya I mean you can’t be a bigot against a religion whose prophet was a pedophile and warlord. Who killed men and the raped their wives. I mean who could anyone possible hate a religion like that. Its not like they slaughtered millions upon millions and raped and pillaged everywhere they went.

    Fuck Islam! Fuck the Prophet Mohammad! May feces be upon him.

    Islam unites the world in hatred. Chinese, Indians, Americans, Europeans …. we all fucking hate Muslims.

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  263. I wonder how whiskey feels about Sgt. Kimberly Denise Munley. She is his type after all.

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  264. I wonder how whiskey feels about Sgt. Kimberly Denise Munley. She is his type after all.

    I am in love. She reminds me of Sara Palin. I have already written a few letters to her. I hope she loves Buffy The Vampire Slayer as much as I do.

    I just fear that she may hate hate hate betas like me.

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  265. To Xsplat & Cannon’s Canon :

    Much obliged for the advice. I’ll definitely have the opportunity to test frame & state control against the odds very soon…

    To the Quasi-Political Pundits Commenting in this Thread :

    What the hell have you done to improve your desired circumstances other than complain about majority or minority special interest groups over obscure web forums?

    To The Specimen :

    If I were to go into a scientific or engineering field with a Master’s at 30, is there a decent chance of me being hired and promoting vs. those who are 6 years younger? Thanks.

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  266. Speciman: “Having sutdied at a top 5 engineering program, and I can tell you that American natives were very much in the minority there. Working in high end R&D, I can tell you that only 30% of the scientists and engineers at my company are US natives. If it was’t for immigration and the influx of the intelliigencia from foreign countries, we’d be more screwed than we are now.”

    You are missing the point, and pretty much have things backwards. Importing foreign talent has allowed the powers that be to dumb down our educational system to the point where we can’t really produce our own talent anymore, or at least not enough of it.

    Why turn out scientists and doctors of our own? Just let Chang do it, and he’ll do it for less. Instead of having a real educational system, we instead get the politically correct dream: “education” as political indoctrination. Let Chang handle the real thinking. Just make sure the white kid knows about how evil racism is, and whatever else may be on the politically correct agenda.

    Result: an increasingly dumbed down, moronic and ridiculous excuse for a nation.

    If you doubt this, or think that I engage in hyperbole, just compare the educational response during Sputnik with the educational response today.

    One of the characteristics of a Third World shithole is that it can’t produce it’s own skilled talent, but is instead dependent on outsiders. That’s where we are heading, or perhaps are already there.

    This is not something to celebrate or pat ourselves on the back for. Quite the opposite.

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  267. Anonymous
    none of you fools are americans. its been a mere 250 years since genocide on the natives and the overthrow of the original colonist ruling class.

    I look forward to the day when we can finally lock all you Marxist traitors away in gulags and treat you to the same you would do to us. I imagine a feminist gulag building a monorail across the north pole to Russia specifically so men can go over there faster and get real women.

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  268. Off-topic request:

    Could someone point me to the Mencius Moldbug blog post outlining the Jewish-African alliance dynamic which attempts to make an end-run around Whitey? The one that ends with the Jew singing some traditional African song that basically translates as “stick it to Whitey”?

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  269. on November 9, 2009 at 1:02 am gunslingergregi

    ””””””””I was talking about how Willard Libby is as obsessed with black cock as he claims zunder is. You respond to my point with your utterly stupid and irrelevant anecdote above about some conversation you had with your black side chick about the ghetto.

    WHAT THE FUCK DOES ONE HAVE TO DO WITH THE OTHER GENIUS? You are so freaking STUPID gunslinger. Kill yourself. Please.
    ””””””””””’

    lol I am doing some intense study from the inside. Obsidian was always saying you can’t know what it is like you weren’t in the hood. Man I am dealing with the hoodiest hood people there are. People she knows smoking crack and shit lol
    I am putting my life on line for this material that I am getting. Pretty cool learning experience though. I am enjoying myself. Cool people but shit they do bring some problems. This shick is alpha female though all the way. She knows like 8 millions people shit wierd. Like another planet. Anyway yea learning a lot about life from inside the black side. Plus her and I undefeated in spades whats up now. I pretty much have figured out the key on how to help the black folks. Yea man I almost wish I had an education to develop my doctoral on this shit but yea probably not worth it he he he

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  270. @ Ryder

    You sound like a paranoid lunatic bro. The powers that be aren’t trying to dumb us down by importing foreign talent. It costs substantially more to relocate and obtain an H1B for a foreign national than it does to hire a US citizen. Most businesses are not in the habit of throwing money away. There just isn’t enough homegrown talent to go around. In fact, most PhD programs in the hard sciences are fully funded by the government in an attempt to produce more homegrown talent.

    There is no conspiracy except the one in your head. The problem is that here people say “that math stuff is too hard”, and don’t want to put in the hours of work necessary to master the sciences, while in places like india, korea, china, and yes even Iran, they don’t. Like I said bro you guys love to whine and play the victim. You remind me of a bunch of spoiled middle class black kids whining about how ‘the man’ is trying to keep you down.

    @Ruby

    Being older the going is always going to get tougher in the job market just because older employees cost more in salary, health, and life insurance. Not sure about a masters, but I guarantee that if you have a PhD in something like chem-e, o-chem, solid state pushics, or similar hard science (maybe not CS) you will always have employment options. Maybe not your dream job in the city you want to live in, but somewhere there will always be someone in need of your services. And as far as advancement goes, there’s plenty of opporunity, but it’s really up to you and whether you’re willing to do what it takes.

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  271. Zunder lost all credibility when he claimed that Obama was not a Beta. Regardless of whether you are a Republican or a Democrat how can you possibly deny that Obama is a Beta? His ugly fatass wife clearly wears the pants in their relationship and the man seems to be very indecisive as president. I bet his wife has bossed him around and told him what to do ever since they started dating.

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  272. Specimen, I have a challenge for you. Go over to pretty much the leading chem blog, Derek Lowe’s “In the pipeline” which has been quoted by Nature. They will absolutely laugh at you assurances that there is brisk demand for o-chem PhDs. Probably the whole commentariat will pause to make fun of you.

    The same applies to bio. You’ve been swallowing the propaganda of the ACS which in this capacity functions as a spokesmen for the interest of tenured profs and the like. They will always be glad to increase their pool of grad students and low level employees.

    Your claims about the government propping up graduate study is false in biology. Profs are able to hire more postdocs and less grad students with their NIH money if that’s what they want. The grad students are paid because they further the profs “business” of doing original science and making the NIH happy; they are not dicking around in the lab or directing any research ideas of their own. When they can’t further the profs’ interests passably they are criticized and ultimately asked to leave the program.

    Americans want to be lawyers and shit like that, things where they will not face competition from intelligent foreigners and thus make a shitload more money. I don’t care about this that much, though it’s not a good thing. Immigration of peasant castes is far more damaging to this country.

    Science is a cool thing to do but it’s not a great way to make money and there is competition for spots and jobs because science is fun to do.

    There’s no conspiracy by the government to do stupid shit, and I don’t think your interlocutor was suggesting so. They just ARE STUPID. There is no master plan behind what they are doing.

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  273. Somewhat related to the original topic of this post: I’m sick of everybody in our government being so goddamned concerned about the Mohammedans.

    First, it was Janet “Conservatives are Terrorists” Napolitano telling us that, regardless of what Mohammedans do, we must always be nice to them. No, there musn’t be “backlash”. Because, you know, ordinary Americans will otherwise go around indiscriminately shooting Mohammedans, shouting out “Jesus loves rednecks!” Now, even the fucking Army Chief of Staff Casey is worried about the poor little Mohammedans in the US armed services who might receive “backlash”. The only thing that would even remotely qualify as backlash would be for truly loyal American soldiers to randomly open fire on the Mohammedans while they were kneeling down and putting their faces in the dirt towards Mecca.

    Julie’s small but brilliant post near the top of this thread is worth rereading.

    Lan astaslem! Lan astaslem! Lan astaslem!

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  274. I’m not a frequent commenter, but for the past few months, every time I have submitted a comment, it is held for moderation and doesn’t show up until hours later. By that time, there are another 50+ comments (which apparently were not held for moderation) below mine. So no one ever responds to my brilliant insight and wit because my comment is buried too far up-thread – as this one is sure to be as well.

    Cut a fellow American posting from overseas some slack, Roissy!

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  275. on November 9, 2009 at 5:42 am Willard Libby

    PA

    Zunder is one of those latent homos who get all atingle (like Chris Matthews for Obama) at the thought of black males.

    Of course, Zunder lives in New Zealand. Likely saw very few blacks in his life. It’s all idealization; sort of like he idealizes Lenin and Stalin. Perhaps he shouldl sucking fat Maori cock instead.

    But why? What is the psychology behind these types of White “males”?

    I don’t think most are homosexual at all so why do they adopt homosubmissive mannerism toward certain black males?

    Why are they so defensive when confronted with criticism of their unmanly behavior?

    Chris Matthews actually admitted on national TV that a chill went up his leg when he saw Obama. WTF!

    We know why black males are terrified of the criticisms by White men, it’s the black male’s historic fear of a lynching. Check.

    But what’s the deal with the White male adulation of Obama or his black male sports heroes? Where does this racial submissiveness come from? And why are these White males in a panic when a mirror is held up to their pathetic behavior?

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  276. Holy shit Roissy… 300 comments? and one of your shortest posts yet… I’m gonna have to blog about Obama on my site =)

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  277. Where does this racial submissiveness come from?

    It’s a good question, and one worth exploring, I don’t have an answer.

    But I think of specimens like Michael Moore, who is on record making tons of statements along that line. I understand his background, to the extent Sailer and others had speculated on, as being a small-town / working class kid. Possibly brighter and more sensitive though more chubby or weak than the rough, hearty white kids he grew up with in working class Michigan.

    And maybe, as a chubby kid, he’s been picked on. Maybe he resented being the smart kid in the class who never got any attention from girls. Even the female teachers gave off an impatient vibe with him.

    And so he learned to hate his own, and fantascise about the “other,” the nobel savage (of whom there was next to none in his neck of the Michingan woods.) Upon whom he projected his alienation, and with whose imagined prowess he identified. After all, the boys who picked him last for a teammate were not named Leroy, Tyrone, or Anthony. They were named Johnny, Tommy, and Ricky.

    And this failure to overcome his low-betaness among boys of his own culture metastized into a profound hate for them, and profound love for the mythical Noble Savage.

    By the way, the movie “Revenge of the Nerds” is virtually a blueprint for the Brahmin-Dalit alliance (upper class leftie whites – NAM underclass alliance) that Mencius Moldbug writes about. See the Alpha-Beta fraternity guys: all handome, nordic, cool and athletic. And evil evil evil.

    The Nerds’ reg-tag, melodramatically-christlike long-sufering and marginalized fraternity finally overcomes the Alpha-Betas when an alliance is formed with a black fraternity.

    By the way, notice how in this scenario, blacks exist only as tools of the nerd’s deliverance, not as men in their hown right. The white leftist’s “love” for the black man is not a fraternal sort of love for one’s fellow man. It’s a psychological projection of their imagination upon their vision of a black man that has very little in common with blacks as real-life humans.

    Exoticism is key. Real life is not. Notice that Zunder is not going atingle over his nearby Maoris. He’s in love with guys he only sees flexing in hip-hop videos on Youtube.

    So in the movie, the black frat intimidates the evil Alpha-Betas in a scene that is a pure, distilled snapshot of the crippled psyche of a low-beta white guy yearning for revenge against his co-ethnic betters, delivered at the hands of a completely fabricated image of the Other.

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  278. on November 9, 2009 at 10:32 am Comment_Whatever

    And so the puppet plays his role.

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  279. Bigot! All you’ve demonstrated is that Obama learned from his prior experience.

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  280. Chic Noir said “cosign. the fact that we’ve never had a major Rwanda/ holocaust /Bosnia type civil war here speaks volumes.”

    Uh. We had a civil war that killed more than half a million people. I’m pretty sure that counts.

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  281. Hmm, the Noble Savage concept seems to have play. I’ve never thought about it in those terms. White liberals idealize blacks and believe they were “stolen” from a paradise. Blame whitey’s evil society for all ills.

    I think, however, Hollywood propaganda plays a huge role. How many of us, through Sesame Street on upwards, saw constant portrayals of black people that either made them Christ-like victims or else makes them saintly models of perfection, with all “racists” being the utmost evil? In a movie or TV show, the first person to say nigger unironically is the bad guy.

    Many black people complain that “white people only know blacks through what they see on TV,” which is true, but they fail to understand that those images are overwhelming positive. I grew up watching the Cosby Show, A Different World and The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, dude—where blacks were presented as a group as intelligent, nonviolent, wealthy, etc. And in music videos, they are intelligent, tough, cool, sexually promiscuous, and wealthy. Quite frankly, media teaches white people that blacks are positive role models.

    And lets not forget the sexual implications. A strong subset of porn is interracial black-men-on-white/asian-women, and a trolling of Craigslist or online “sex diaries” tells the same story: many non-black men getting some kind of weird thrill pimping their whorish wives out to black thugs.

    Another strain is this: the Declaration of Independence states that all men are created equal. White liberals take this as a postulate and apply it to all areas of life, not just law. So the fact that blacks are worse off in many areas must be (in their eyes) because of oppression, since white liberals have, as a foundational belief, that the races statistically can’t be different. To believe differently would hack at the base of their beliefs and upset the apple cart.

    Finally, victimhood. People strongly identify with the udnerdog, wanting him to over come. In addition, many stories in the media portray the misunderstood-outcast-becoming-savior/leader. And everyone in their teenage years feels a certain sense of isolation/outcastedness.

    Many white liberals see themselves as outcasts in high school, and, instead of trying to fit in, extoll their outcastedness and join support groups to attack what they perceive as the majority. By identifying as victims themselves (whether because of feminism/gayness/weirdness/intelligence/etc.), they set themselves opposite the “jocks” and “mean girls” who run the school.

    Since this narrative dictates that the oppressed must unite to overcome the oppressors, other outcasts must unite in a coalition. So blacks must be brought into the fold, since they are outcasts (poor/held down by “the man”).

    White liberals thus identify with blacks, and pointing out that black people’s problems are caused by their own choices attacks white liberals’ victimhood as being not a product of being oppressed but their own choices to be victims; in a sense, you shake their self-world view. Plato’s parable of the caves, anyone?

    Of course, the easiest answer is self-loathing. Their is always a strong sense of denial and self-punishment in many civilized people. If people do not sacrifice themselves, societies cannot continue. White liberals, in bowing down as betas before blacks, twist the idea of self-sacrifice into a pretzel. Instead of taking a bullet for their country or taking a punch for an abused child, they lay down themselves prostrate and take an emotional beating from black people.

    It is an idea worth studying in great depth.

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  282. One Army doctor who knew him (Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan) said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim soldier had stopped fellow officers from filing formal complaints.

    tenkev

    Chic Noir said “cosign. the fact that we’ve never had a major Rwanda/ holocaust /Bosnia type civil war here speaks volumes.”

    Uh. We had a civil war that killed more than half a million people. I’m pretty sure that counts.

    But these were almost exclusively uniformed military deaths and half were due to infection and exposure to poor hygiene.

    The American soldiers fighting on each sided didn’t target civilians for war crimes.

    In fact the US Civil War arguably had the lowest level of civilian rape by soldiers in the history of warfare.

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  283. tenkev:
    “Chic Noir said “cosign. the fact that we’ve never had a major Rwanda/ holocaust /Bosnia type civil war here speaks volumes.”

    Uh. We had a civil war that killed more than half a million people. I’m pretty sure that counts.”
    —the Civil war was between two opposing armies who were not trying to ethnically cleanse one another.

    Chic noir was talking about ethnic cleansing—where a government targets a subset of people to exterminate, and pursues that as the ultimate goal. The ultimate goals of the Civil war were reunification (Union) and secession (South). Both sides were willing to have their goals without bloodshed, but the other would not allow.

    That’s not ethnic cleansing at all.

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  284. The American soldiers fighting on each sided didn’t target civilians for war crimes.

    Not entirely true. A massive part of the North’s miltary strategy lied in scorched-earth campaigns against Southern civilians, Sherman’s March to the Sea being best known.

    The WW2 firebombings of Hamburg and Dresden were later on conducted with the same aim of demoralizing the enemy combatant into submission by devastating him on the home-front; ie, killing his civilians.

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  285. Chic noir was talking about ethnic cleansing—where a government targets a subset of people to exterminate, and pursues that as the ultimate goal.

    One could argue that policies that have been creating white-flight since Brown vs Board are conducted in the spirit of ethnic cleansing of conservative demographics from cities and replacing them with Socialist-voting ones.

    And if you account for property and violent crime that accompanies the ‘diversification’ of formerly mono-ethnic communities, then you can also say that warfare-levels of violence are part of these peacetime population replacements.

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  286. Pardon me, but wasn’t the American civil war elicited by different opinions about slavery???? pretty much again, ethnic origin to that war.

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  287. Who would have thought? The Army Chief of Staff is a closet Muslim? It really says it all doesn’t it?

    “You know there’s been a lot of speculation going on, and probably the curiosity is a good thing, but we have to be careful, because we can’t jump to conclusions now based on little snippets of information that come out,” Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey said in an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    “And frankly I am worried — I’m not worried, but I’m concerned — that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers.”

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  288. PA, you’re comparing wartime atrocities with full fledged governmental programs to exterminate people.

    For example, the Japanese internment camps (the ones run by the Japanese holding foreign soldiers) in WW2 were atrocities—brutal conditions, torture, random killings, etc. But They weren’t ethnic cleansing—the goal of the war wasn’t to ethnically cleanse, but to get land for the Japanese Empire. The camps held resistors—foreign army guys, native people resisting occupation, etc. Had the resistors started fighting *for* the Japanese, they would have been freed.

    The German camps were ethnic cleansing–their goal was to wipe out peoples. The Jews could have come out in favor of Hitler and joined the army and would have still been gassed to death.

    About the closest we have in America is when the Army handed out the smallpox blankets. But those were done on very few occasions to a small number of tribes–it wasn’t US Government policy to give every red man small pox. That certainly was an atrocity, but the mass scale we’re talking about here simply didn’t happen.

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  289. Obama after the Henry Louis Gates, Jr. incident:

    “The Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.”

    Obama after Muslim fanatic Nidal Malik Hasan went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood while shouting “Allahu Akbar“:

    “We don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”

    Sez it all, really.

    I like it when My President discerns between the important – and the trivial.

    This is 21st Century America – of course a black man getting his Cosby sweater pulled-out of shape by The Racist Cops! warrants more censure than than a bunch of dead white kids in Texas. They probably gave “funny looks” to the Dr. and deserved it.

    No matter, Brangelina, Ed Norton and Clooney are sure to soon call for investigations into discrimination against patriotic Arab-Egyptian-American’s in the military.

    I’m glad My President can keep focus on minority victims at such a time as this.

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  290. “Pardon me, but wasn’t the American civil war elicited by different opinions about slavery???? pretty much again, ethnic origin to that war.”

    —-Nope. First, the civil war was not about slavery. Or at least not in the majority. Most fo the Southern Officers wanted slavery abolished. Most Northerners were indifferent.

    Secondly, those who opposed slavery opposed slavery as slavery—-the fact that blacks were slaves didn’t matter. they could have been whtie men and they would have opposed it.

    third, an ethnic origin was not ethnic cleansing. No one—north or south—was trying to wipe out black people.

    So, no, the US Civil war is not a valid comparison to ethnic cleansing.

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  291. Firepower, I agree, but Brangelina might abstain. Angelina is her father’s daughter on many points—her father being the conservative actor Jon Voight. She mentioned during the run up to the election that she was still deciding between McCain and Nobama—I think she leans libertarian. And Brad’s a cypher and will follow her.

    That being said, she adopts black children like their Furbies, so maybe she’s a knee-jerk liberal on race.

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  292. “Who would have thought? The Army Chief of Staff is a closet Muslim? It really says it all doesn’t it?”

    Nah, just a PC diversity monger.

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  293. Adrian

    Who would have thought? The Army Chief of Staff is a closet Muslim? It really says it all doesn’t it?

    “You know there’s been a lot of speculation going on, and probably the curiosity is a good thing, but we have to be careful, because we can’t jump to conclusions now based on little snippets of information that come out,” Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey said in an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    “And frankly I am worried — I’m not worried, but I’m concerned — that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers.”

    Gen. Casey’s comments have been shameful. He seems to be committed to evading the truth for political reasons.

    Fellow doctors have recounted how they were repeatedly harangued by Hasan about religion and that he openly claimed to be a “Muslim first and American second.”

    One Army doctor who knew him said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim soldier had stopped fellow officers from filing formal complaints.

    Gen. Casey should be suspended or removed from the US military.

    He wrote in a command climate survey sent to Pentagon officials that fear in the military of being seen as politically incorrect prevented an “intellectually honest discussion of Islamic ideology” in the ranks.

    That climate needs to change IMMEDIATELY. Starting with the removal of the politically correct rat Gen. Casey.

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  294. For those of you who constantly obsess over the “Evils” of race mixing, I would like to point you to an article for miscegenation by Steve Sailer himself :

    http://www.isteve.com/Caublinasians.htm

    I am liking this pundit more and more as I read him.

    No surprise that the backlash aimed at Sailer for this article ever since it was printed has attacked him for his partial Jewish heritage and claims that he’s part of a worldwide conspiracy to dilute the white nationalist movement with rationalist views.

    Idiots.

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  295. Military officers who want to be promoted above the rank of Captain (Army) develop a strong sense for where the political winds are blowing. To go from LTC to colonel today, you need to be very careful about cultivating a politically correct image. One instance of, say, an inadequate response to some bogus sexual harassment charge several levels under your command some years back can be a career-ender.

    To go from colonel to one-star general you pretty much have to be as politically correct as a Wellseley college brochure.

    A lot of filthy, shameless, no-honor careerists among military officers above the O3 pay grade.

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  296. One more name for my earlier list, Abdulhakim Muhammad.

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  297. lurker

    Firepower, I agree, but Brangelina might abstain. Angelina is her father’s daughter on many points—her father being the conservative actor Jon Voight.

    lurky, like any fuckable bim, Angelina is doing what she does best: piss off daddy by doing her best Electra act. If he were for liberating Africa from it’s White Oppressors, she’d be into eating Rwandan orphans.

    Let us pray, and hope – for change – that He who is above us all can keep the focus on African-Namibian-Gold Coastian-American VS Racist White American. At such a time as this, only He can heal our wounds with his change.

    By his stripes, we are healed.

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  298. How amazing it is to see a nobama thread immediately, hastily, abandoned for a trenchant vegan-fetus eating thread.

    It’s as if,
    America has a short attention span. Like Octomom suddenly reappeared to claim her primacy over the face-eating chimp from Joisey.

    Like a new flavor of the week grape-pizza crust suddenly triumphed over Beef Wellington at the latest Irish Bar at the strip mall.

    Blogs (and the effort of writing) have such an profound effect on the world.

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  299. Adrian. You are an idiot my friend. “Don’t jump to conclusions about this?” Are you F***cking kidding me? The guy shouted Alluh Akbar as he was shooting innocent people. The political correctness of this country might be its ultimate downfall.

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  300. Chuchundra: I vote for calling it like it is. You?

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  301. Sal,

    You re the fucking idiot here. Those are not my words. Those are the words of the Army Chief of Staff. He not only said the exact same thing Obama did, but expanded on it further.

    The Chief of Staff must be a Muslim or racist against whites, the same as Obama.

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  302. He got poor reviews, he had a problem with alcohol, he had made his political views well known and been reprimanded several times. Why was he still allowed to be part of the forces?

    The army doesn’t want people to think that they can get out of going to Iraq by being a fuck-up.

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  303. lol. Adrian, you are a moron.

    Nobama has an entire lifetime of evidence hsowing him to be a racist prick. His pastor, his autobiopgraphies, his words—-all show a racist prick.

    Casey only has these words. It sounds like pc bullshit, but he has to mirror what NotMyPresident, his commander-in-chief, says.

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  304. on November 9, 2009 at 3:07 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””””’Sal Paradise
    Adrian. You are an idiot my friend. “Don’t jump to conclusions about this?” Are you F***cking kidding me? The guy shouted Alluh Akbar as he was shooting innocent people. The political correctness of this country might be its ultimate downfall.
    ”””””””””’

    On the shooting. Yea surprized it wasn’t more dead although the dude did pretty good by himself. The politically correct shit extends to soldiers living in building and not having ammo. The soldiers are not trusted to have ammo except for military police. Now the guns are all locked up in the basements of the building. Reallly lets say a coordinated attack with a 4 gasoline trucks. 60 percent of army equipment is located at fort hood in lines along one road. Take the four trucks take up strategic postion equally dispersed within the camp and just start spraying down the motorpools with gasoline. You have around 500 vehicles in each motor pool with a chain link fence around it. So yea no one really there at night. Could probably get away with spraying the whole 20,000 gallons each truck carries and then light that shit up like the fourth of july.

    I brought that shit up in germany when the fire lanes where so fucking clear on post it was stupid. Couple people could have covered the whole post and there would have been no chance. Other team could have gone door to door killing unarmed “soldiers”. Look at iraq soldiers at least usually have ammo 24 7 even though it ain’t much. How many incidents of soldier shooting people up have there been not many. Soldiers should have a weapon and ammo to defend themselves 24 7 no matter where the fuck they are.

    Note: hopefully someone reads this and gets there head out of their ass and implements some sustainable security measures.

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  305. Adrian–

    Those are not my words. Those are the words of the Army Chief of Staff. He not only said the exact same thing Obama did, but expanded on it further.

    Yes. For thorough going lean over backwards adherence to political correctness reasons. If he didn’t, he’d be out out of a job. Literally.

    It’s no that he’s 100% wrong about being careful about inciting a backlash against Muslim soldiers or Muslim civilians in America. The danger is at this point much overblown I think, but it is something to avoid.

    However it’s high time that we stopped skirting the issue of a few soldiers sometimes identifying with our enemies. That should not be sheltered, nor tolerated in active military – or on call reserve troops either.

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  306. Major Hasan’s trial should be executed with a quickness.

    His trial should be held fairly quickly. The issues are really simple. There’s no question that he killed multiple persons in one incident, which qualifies him for the federal death penalty. There’s really no question that it was premediated, within the legal meaning of that term. There’s very little question about his legal sanity. He was a serving psychiatrist supervised by psychiatrists.

    For similar reasons his appeal should proceed quickly as well. The whole deal could and should be over within two years. This is an incredibly simple case.

    Whether to stay his execution or not should be on Obama’s desk within two years as well.

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  307. on November 9, 2009 at 3:28 pm Usually Lurking

    But I think of specimens like Michael Moore, who is on record making tons of statements along that line. I understand his background, to the extent Sailer and others had speculated on, as being a small-town / working class kid.

    PA, it was my understanding that he was not all that “working class”. I believe he went to the upper-middle class high school in Flint and then started dressing in a more shabby way and keeping that ridiculous facial scruff to maintain an image of a working class Joe screwed by the corporatist policies of the right wing Reaganites.

    He lives in a pretty expensive place in Manhattan. Well, that is, at least, one of his homes.

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  308. @Doug
    Soldiers who somewhat identify with or have knowledge of enemies can be an asset if properly employed.

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  309. Dreamer–

    Soldiers who somewhat identify with or have knowledge of enemies can be an asset if properly employed.

    That’s true too. Language skills, cultural knowledge, go betweens, etc. But they need to be carefully watched. They do merit somewhat greater suspicion. Major Hasan however was obviously WAY beyond “somewhat” or even “quite a lot”.

    This is all really just common sense. Or common sense among the reasonably knowledgeable. Though in some cases the line will be hard to identify. It doesn’t seem to have been in Major Hasan’s case. He was way over it.

    The trouble is that in many cases political correctness as currently shaped doesn’t allow common sense, but rather censors it, and makes it taboo.

    The Senate investigation Liberman as Chair of the Homeland Security committee wants to get underway offers some hope of change in this within the military. But you’re right, the last thing we should want is to discourage any Muslim or native Arabic speakers from being part of our armed forces.

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  310. Roissy is correct. Obama was willing to rush to negative judgment on the white police based on rumor and innuendo. When a person of color behaves badly he’s a paragon of cool headed rationality, fairness and objectivity.

    Don’t forget that his Attorney General dismissed the case against the New Black Panthers for blatantly violating voting rights act in intimidating white people at a Philadelphia polling place. Think the Klan would have gotten off so easy with black Eric Holder? Obama and his ilk are anti-white bigots and black supremacists.

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  311. @Willard and Lurker – uhm I can’t believe I’m writing this but thank you very much. You two got my point.

    Tenkev, got it buddy?

    Comment_Whatever, the other thing your video showed is how many world leaders didn’t get enough cow milk as children.

    Laikastes,don’t worry, I read your comment handsome:)

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  312. I find it hilarious that a whole bunch of white supremist racist jerk offs are on here crying foul because Obama is supposedly a racist. You people are too stupid for words. I am amazed that you idiots even manage to find you way to Sarah Palin rallies.

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  313. Nobama hates white people, Adrian. Get over it.

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  314. “[1] The continued health and wealth of the U.S. depends on these same factors applied to the white peoples within its borders. Only through the peaceful and productive diffusion of power and resources to other peoples will this ever change.

    I am not calling for such a change; I am only revealing its conditions.”

    What does this even mean, Ruby?

    Sounds like what we have now — the wonders of PC and diversity “diffusion.”

    You can have a “wealthy” America. Or you can have “diffusion” of PC. Don’t even try to pretend that one leads to the other.

    Or you could have, you know, a true COLORBLIND MERITOCRACY. Most efficient utilization of human capital.

    This obsession with “resources” is just primitive sillyness.

    Resources alone do not lead to wealth. Human capital plays a rather crucial part. And human capital only produces under certain conditions, which “diffusion of resources” can squelch rather handily.

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  315. @Adrian

    There is no such thing as a racist, it’s a completely made-up concept with no basis on reality.

    Obama’s agenda is clear, and it is the same as for 80 to 90 percent of the black populatino in the US: transfer as much as possible from whites to blacks.

    That’s not “racism”, it’s just greed and avarice.

    Pointing out that the entire African-American political project can be summed up as “gimme, gimme, gimme” is not white supremacism.

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  316. In Response to JB :

    I was simply stating that the majority of material, monetary, social, temporal, political and informational wealth rests in the hands of white people in this country.

    For that reason, the continued health and wealth of this country relies on the continued health and wealth of the white peoples within its borders.

    This is simply a pragmatic conclusion and not an ideological prescription for what ails our country.

    The only foreseeable way this equation would change would be the centralized diffusion of multi-capital into other communities — whereas based on ethnicity, gender, sexuality, religion, .etc or the decentralization of different types of capital among similar lines.

    (The third alternative is something along the lines of Neal Stephenson’s “The Diamond Age” where technological advancements strip material and geopolitical power bases of their potency and various special interest groups voluntarily and jovially decentralize and self-segregate along similar lines as well. Multiculturalism is one of the forces tearing this country apart. Something akin to this solution appears to be one of the most peaceful options to mitigate against it.)

    On the colorblind meritocracy of IQ and accomplishments— I absolutely agree with you.

    One of the reasons I am wary of many HBD-Advocates is that they seem to want to create and enforce a ‘genearchy’ based on racial divisions rather than illuminate genetic differences for the sake of their objective utility.

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  317. Dumb fuck nigger liberal muslim POTUS doesn’t know about the dumb fuck nigger Army officer who is a muslim and who hates infidels? What a shock!

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  318. More shocking was “Obama’s delayed empathy”:

    IN TIMES of national tragedy, Americans expect their president to capture the mood and moment with the right blend of emotion, empathy, and urgency. It’s a delicate act of timing and tone. And President Obama, despite his eloquence and dignity, has yet to master it, as illustrated by his awkward response to the deadly shootings at the Fort Hood Army Base in Texas.

    Obama’s initial remarks came shortly after 5 p.m. Thursday, while Americans were struggling to come to grips with the shocking rampage and its chaotic aftermath. The stage was set for the president to quickly and somberly address the tragedy. Instead, a serene-looking Obama offered light introductory comments, keyed to those attending a Tribal Nations Conference that was hosted by the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Indian Affairs. His introduction included a convivial “shout-out’’ to one of the conference attendees.

    Several minutes in, Obama finally called the Fort Hood shootings “a horrific outburst of violence.’’ The words he spoke next were respectful and appropriate. But it took him too long to get to the point of delivering them.

    It takes more than scripted eloquence for presidents to connect with their fellow Americans. It requires a visceral ability to grasp the scope of tragedy, calculate its impact on the national psyche, and react swiftly to it. Ronald Reagan did it after the Challenger explosion took the lives of seven crew members on Jan. 28, 1986. So did Bill Clinton, after the Oklahoma City bombings of April 19, 1995, left 168 dead and more than 600 injured.

    When a gunman fired those shots at Fort Hood, the country immediately felt the pain. Obama missed the first moment to show he understood just how much it hurt.

    http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2009/11/07/obamas_delayed_empathy/

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  319. I surprised nobody has offered parallels between Hasan and Sodini. Hasan was single and in his mid 30’s, though we don’t know for sure, it is probably safe to assume he wasn’t very active in the dating or casual sex scene. Living in isolation for years and/or decades can make men do crazy things. The culture/religion in both cases are more catalyst than underlying cause.

    yet another reason to promote game

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  320. “Obama’s agenda is clear, and it is the same as for 80 to 90 percent of the black populatino in the US: transfer as much as possible from whites to blacks.”

    It’s to transfer money from the hyper-wealthy to the middle class. The former has seen skyrocketing increases for decades while the latter has stagnated. It’s not inappropriate to tax these people, unless you’re a brain-dead supply sider who’s been ignoring the last thirty years of evidence.

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  321. Tax them fuckers.

    Rich Bernie Madoffs and Kobe Bryants, flush with cash from useless endeavors that contribute jack shit to society as a whole.

    If white boys get the ‘privilege’ of military duty and the resulting “honor” of parading their hook-for-an-arm at an NFL or NBA game that happens to inconveniently fall on Veteran’s day.

    Make every rich bastard pay for the safety that they steadfastly refuse to earn themselves.

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  322. Quack Dr. Grzlickson:

    “It’s to transfer money from the hyper-wealthy to the middle class.”
    —which is why the middle class is seeing their taxes go up. Or….you’re wrong.

    “The former has seen skyrocketing increases for decades while the latter has stagnated.”
    —so the productive classes made wealth and everyone benefitted. How dare they enjoy the fruits of their labor!

    “It’s not inappropriate to tax these people,”
    —-destroy the producers!

    “unless you’re a brain-dead supply sider who’s been ignoring the last thirty years of evidence.”
    —yes, those policies that created 30 years of unparalled growth, destroyed communism, and gave us the computer age?

    Go. Fuck. Your.Self. Hippie.

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  323. lurker bbqgrzpwnage

    remember, this good doctor talks down to g manifesto

    now it is clear: he wants to (passively) steal his loot

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  324. i’m sure someone can add in Bill Ayers somehow. c’mon, make somethin’ up. let’s legitimize this discussion!!

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  325. liberals never bring up bill ayers, so those that do, are republican plants

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  326. This bit from Fox is the most hard hitting on his non crazy but zealous Islamist motivation as it was ripening. They followed up on a fellow military psych student back in Bethesda Maryland source that noted Washington Post reporter Dana Priest had turned up, but quoted him at much more length.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573547,00.html

    A classmate of Hasan, meanwhile, told FoxNews.com that the warning signs were all there — the justification of homicide bombings; spewing anti-American hatred; efforts to reach out to Al Qaeda — but that the military treated Hasan with kid gloves, even after giving him a poor performance review.

    And though he was on the radar screen of at least one U.S. intelligence agency, no action was taken that might have prevented the Army psychiatrist from allegedly gunning down 13 people and wounding 29 others in the Fort Hood massacre last week.

    “There were definitely clear indications that Hasan’s loyalties were not with America,” Lt. Col. Val Finnell, Hasan’s classmate at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He and Hasan were students in the school’s public health master’s degree program from 2007-2008.

    “The issue here is that there’s a political correctness climate in the military. They don’t want to say anything because it would be considered questioning somebody’s religious belief, or they’re afraid of an equal opportunity lawsuit.

    “I want to be clear that this wasn’t about anyone questioning his religious views. It is different when you are a civilian than when you are a military officer,” said Finnell, who is a physician at the Los Angeles Air Force Base.

    “When you are in the military and you start making comments that are seditious, when you say you believe something other than your oath of office — someone needed to say why is this guy saying this stuff.

    “He was a lightning rod. He made his views known and he was very vocal, he had extremely radical jihadist views,” Finnell said. “When you’re a military officer you take an oath to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.

    “They should’ve confronted him — our professors, officers — but they were too concerned about being politically correct.”

    Finnell said the warning signs were clear to many, not just classmates. Faculty members, including many high-ranking military officers, witnessed firsthand his anti-Americanism, he said.

    Finnell recalled Hasan telling his classmates and professors, “I’m a Muslim first and I hold the Shariah, the Islamic Law, before the United States Constitution.”

    I find the following encouraging though further down in the same article:

    — In the days and weeks before the shooting, Hasan voiced his objections to Muslims fighting the war on terror to members of his mosque, the Islamic Community of Greater Killeen. Congregants at the mosque said he voiced his objections to Muslims serving in the U.S. military and to his impending deployment to Afghanistan.

    — Over the summer, Hasan’s comments led Osman Danquah, co-founder of the mosque, to recommend that it deny Hasan’s request to become a lay Muslim leader at Fort Hood, the Associated Press reported.
    Of course they may have mostly wanted to keep their noses clean, but that’s something.

    He doesn’t seem to have been crazy any more than the 9/11 terrorists were crazy. He was a zealous Islamist backed up against a wall w/r/t to his beliefs because of his impending deployment to Afghanistan he felt even as a doctor and shrink rather than a combatant, and decided to refuse to go in an action that would take a chunk of the US military down with him, in furtherance of his Islamist loyalties.

    Islam isn’t to blame for Fort Hood but an Islamist acting in furtherance of that cause was.

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  327. Well I found that Mencius Moldbug post in case anyone is interested:

    http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/02/theory-of-ruling-underclass.html

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  328. Speciman: “You sound like a paranoid lunatic bro.”

    LOl! Such witty repartee. Try to do better next time.

    Speciman: “There just isn’t enough homegrown talent to go around.”

    No shit, dude. The question is why? Why has an educational system that, not so long ago, was a world leader in producing quality talent no longer doing so? What has changed? Are those changes for the better?

    Speciman: “There is no conspiracy except the one in your head.”

    We aren’t talking about conspiracies, we’re talking about reality. But the truth is you aren’t interested in reality. You are interested in calling others whiners. Pathetically, this probably makes you feel sophisticated, though your sophomoric replies reveal that you are anything but. This also causes you to miss the truth staring at you every day: our educational system has been transformed into a massive political indoctrination center. It no longer really cares about turning out scientists, they’ll just import Chang for that. The establishment is clearly fine with this. Again, see the response of our system in the aftermath of Sputnik, and compare it to today.

    Speciman: “The problem is that here people say “that math stuff is too hard”, and don’t want to put in the hours of work necessary to master the sciences, while in places like india, korea, china, and yes even Iran, they don’t.”

    Sophomoric attempt. Again, brah, why is that? Wasn’t science hard just a few decades ago? What changed?

    If you were interested in reality and facts, you might ask these sorts of questions. Naturally you don’t. But even the sophomoric mentality should be able to understand that a country that is transformed from a world leader in producing scientists and researchers into one that is dependent upon foreign talent is not a good thing or a cause for celebration. It is, in fact, characteristic of a Third World nation to be unable to produce your own scientific talent.

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  329. I don’t have time to read all the responses to this post, but it seems, from the first few I’ve read, that the liberals on the forum are screeching, “So you’re saying Obama has sympathy for violent Muslim fanatics, then? That’s what you’re saying?? That’s why he encouraged everyone not to jump to conclusions before all the facts are known here?” the liberals’ goal when asking these rhetorical questions is to discredit conservative critiques of Obama on this issue, but this effort is an epic failure. all you liberals are doing is creating a colossal, towering straw-man capable of scaring away no one but the most glib fools who haven’t given the issue any thought and don’t want to be thought of (by themselves or others) as bigotted. “Ooh I get it, so Obama is an extremist Muslim sympathizer!” = straw-man.

    the problem here is not that Obama is an extremist Muslim sympathizer–unequivocally, he’s not. the principled conservative’s problem here is political correctness and how beholden Obama is to it. political correctness is what prevented this guy from being investigated and removed from any environment in which he could have wrought harm to others. PC is what kept this guy “on the streets” when it was known he had been communicating with known terrorist groups. had this guy been a conservative Christian with ties and communications to violent Christian terror groups (none of which exist, or if they do, they’re so marginal as to be of no consequence and are probably racist strains of “Christianity” that aren’t Christianity at all, such as the kind practiced by Aryan supremist groups), he would’ve been hung out to dry long before this massacre happened. but, since he is a Muslim, we’re not allowed to ever insinuate that there MIGHT be something latent in Islam that lends itself to violence. of course, anyone who has been paying attention knows exactly what it is: the Islamic teaching that killing is bad, but not taking up arms to defend Islam from persecution is worse. (see Qur’an 2:214 for exact quotes). since such an exception, under which it is permissible to spill blood, can be endlessly interpretted and applied to whatever or whomever is in the line of fire of a Muslim “perceiving” persecution, Islam has been riddled with PR blights such as this pretty much since its inception. but, I digress. the issue at hand here is PC and its protection of Islam, not Islam itself.

    Roissy was simply pointing out–quite accurately and quite succinctly–that Obama devoutly worships at the altar of PC. telling the American “Muslim community” to get its shit together is political suicide. but specifically requesting beforehand to be asked a question by a reporter about the Cambridge incident when he didn’t know all the facts and then siding with the minority over the white cop is political sweet sauce to the “oppressed” minorities who eat that shit up. very brave indeed, Dear Leader.

    this tragic state of affairs cost several good people their lives at Ft. Hood, and until America can remove the albatross that is PC from around its neck, there will be others whose lives are sacrificed in the name of not hurting someone else’s feelings in the future, common sense be damned.

    good job, Roissy. you’re completely right.

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  330. @Zunder: my friend, if you think conservatism is beta but liberalism is alpha, you a) have no idea what you’re talking about and b) are fooling no one but yourself. need the proof? read it and weep, faggot (which I mean not in the “you’re gay” way, but rather in the “liberal pussy” way) . this has long been my favorite trump card when betas such as yourself try to claim the title of alpha for liberalism. listen to the descriptions of Republicans and Democrats the author talks about in this article. what do the mannerisms of the Democrats sound like to you? again, read it and weep, faggot:

    http://www.gq.com/news-politics/mens-lives/200603/republicans-in-bed-best

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