A Test Of Your Game: Turn The Other Cheek

Imagine yourself in this situation, however painfully.

This is a test of your Game. Ground rules:

  1. This is not a test of your ability to state the bleeding obvious or throw satisfying insults. That means refraining from leaving stupid comments like “I wouldn’t have been in that situation to begin with.” The purpose of this test is to demonstrate how you would skillfully rescue what seems like a hopelessly bad ending to a date.
  2. “I’d stay home and fap to my pornhub waifu princess” is not an acceptable response.
  3. Cut Your Losses isn’t an example of Game. It’s an example of cutting your losses, which is a perfectly reasonable suggestion for the no-Game-having beta prone to self-embarrassment spirals, but by no means anything resembling “Game” in its colloquial sense.

No doubt any man having a passing familiarity with the charisma arts would know better than to save the kiss for the last possible moment, when he’s standing at the door to her place ostensibly to drop her off and thank her for yet another sexless evening added to his string of sexless evenings. It’s never a good idea to put that kind of expectational pressure on girls; all that does is create awkwardness and deflate the air of mystery which girls love about men. It’s like charmlessly hitting on a woman in an elevator…if she does’t feel like she has an escape hatch and that you’ve only screwed up the courage to ask her out because she’s cornered with nowhere to go and no cockblock to summon if you’re a dud, she’s gonna physically and emotionally turtle. And then write a bitter tumblrhea post about the experience.

(FYI the proper way to do an elevator pickup is to open with “damn, looks like I only have 63 floors to flirt with you. Don’t get too excited, I need fifty floors to think about it”. In other words, make light of the perception that elevators are breeding grounds for sexy pickups.)

Game 101: kino escalation is your night-long companion, not a hurried afterthought at the end of the night. You make your move for the kiss close during an emotional high, as the date is steaming up, not after all the energy has dissipated and she just wants to go to her apartment and pig out on PozTV.

So we all know the doofus in this video clip fucked up the kiss close timing. We also know he made his fuck-up worse by leaning way in and for far too long trying to steal a smooch, only to be left with his puckered lips smacking empty air like Pepe Le Pew after his chat amour squeezed out of his grasp. To get not one cheek, but two cheeks as he futilely tongue bathes the infinite space between his craning mouth and her obviously practiced dodge and weave raises this scene from a tale of beta woe to a Jumbotronic piece of performance art.

That’s where you the reader come in. You’re this man. What’s done is done. Now tell us your next step.

What do you do?

Sometimes the most impressive Game is the Game you spit when the odds are nowhere near your favor.





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  1. You’ve got some food stuck on your neck.

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    • One hand to throat, the other behind her head so she don’t bang it into the glass. Say, “Ah, I see you are not the romantic type. Open your mouth!” When she does, spit in it, then proceed as the situation (or you) calls for.

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    • “U have something on ur neck”.
      Great neg in this situation…notice she is smiling..a big indicator of interest

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    • Drop all the crap in your hands, pick her up and throw her over your shoulder, ass slap three times while she’s there, then give her a shoo away gesture.

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  2. Hand to throat, push her back against the glass and put one on her. She’ll either submit in that moment or if she fights that, well, already messed up earlier so cut my losses and walk off.

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    • More playful… Put down all the luggage and walk into her space, holding her close. Eye contact. “You’re right, I didn’t do that very well.” Go in again.

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    • For starter i would not have attempted the kiss as the book sheilding the vagina is fairly obvious dont kiss sign. More foreplay to remove said cock blocking book is required.

      That being said i’m inclined to agree with Bob, that if you really just gotta kiss her, then grabbing her arm and puling her tto you would be the go (this is what they do in the romance novels (no i’m not a fag; did reaserch im my early years for what chick dig)). Many times this does work (experience) or Vilolent protest, joke it off that you thought she was playing hard to get, then quickly get out of mace distance.

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      • get it you do.

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      • whose bags are he holding? If a chick pulls that, sorry, I walk off. She’s not worth “attempting to save.” If they’re her bags, I drop them and leave.

        Why does this always have to be about getting chicks to put out who are in the end gonna not be worth it? Go call a hooker and just be happy or something. Walk away, delete her number. Don’t look back. Leave her the fuck there and just go get back in the car.

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      • Yeah, we all know that, but the question wasn’t what you would’ve done differently but what you would do from that point going forward. That kiss dodging is a massive shit test imo, she is effectively demanding you grab her by the throat and dominate her or slunk off like the pussy she suspected you are so she can go find an actual man.

        The ‘grabbing her by the arm’ shit won’t work here, gotta be the neck where she will instantaneously make the decision to submit to you or fight back in which case you may as well walk.

        8 years of marriage with a 3rd child otw, and grabbing my missus by the back of the head/hair or putting a hand around her throat and looking her dead in tthe eyes with that ‘woman, i’m going to fuck you now look’ remains the sure way to get her in the mood.

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  3. Hot and cold; you act like it never happened and keep moving forward. Looks like these two are going into the building together so he should proceed as normal. If she says something like “well it was nice meeting you” then he should proceed as normal.

    If that’s the only girl that is an option for him than that is his fault. Also, I’ve lost count how many times I’ve gotten the first ‘date’ cheek turn and then ended up hooking up with the girl after another date. It’s not that big a deal that she didn’t want to kiss him at that moment; might as well view it as just another shit test and keep plowing through

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    • Calmly, without butt hurt attitude, set my stuff down, smirk, look her in the eyes, reach a hand up to cup her face, stare into her eyes for 3 seconds (smirking), say “let’s try that again”, and pull her into ME with both the hand cupping her face and the one I put around her lower back. Kiss her with calm confidence.

      His energy was low. He needs to change it to one of bemused mastery.

      Nobody bats a 1000. No big deal. He’s got it on take two.

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    • yeah but people saw him so he can’t just take it like that

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    • Yes but the post says that’s not a relevant answer.
      No “cut your loss”, even though cutting your loss is a better course of action than some others for sure.

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  4. “You smell good… like a cheese sandwich.”
    — Yohami

    Stole that from Yohami. That guy is solid.

    And Yohami would then add… “And then when she laugh, kiss her.”

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  6. Smack her ass, then walk. There’s cutting your losses, and then there’s going for broke.

    All on red, and bring me another scotch, toots.

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    • Modify with “Well, that’s an alternative” or other witty, and point behind her. When she turns, then smack. When she turns back, be walking away with a cheery “goodnight!”

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  7. “Look over there!”
    “Huh?”
    **Steal a kiss**

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  8. And that post is full of razor-sharp truisms about game. So much that rings true.

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  9. “Oh, I didn’t know you were a lesbian”

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  10. He starts from way outside and leans in like he’s wanting to eat an uppercut. Getting her inside your stance would seem essential before even bothering. If she’ll tolerate being there cupping her back or ass should cut off these escape routes as you would be pulling her in to the kiss.

    He didn’t make that grade so this attempted kiss is just confirmation of what we can already observe from his body language.

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  11. Make a joke of your huge fail and then escalate with some comical assholery.

    e.g – act a little bit comically surprised , “like what?!” Then turn point at own ass and say “no? ok then how about right here?” But jokey.

    [CH: Conspicuously insincere self-deprecation could work here. “I knew I should have showered this morning.”]

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    • on September 19, 2017 at 6:23 pm Subarctic Hillbilly

      Good stuff. Better: “I knew I should have showered this week.”

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    • Yeah, I’m thinking I’d just say what I think in the moment and change the scene.
      “ooff. Well that sucked…” with a smirk, then a comical,but low toned “Come on, let’s get you out of here, princess”
      Walk on, get a mutual laugh about how awkward that shared experience was, reminding her you have enough game to recognize a crash and burn, and get an arm around her and walk to next location. Now that you hope no one was watching. Maybe another couple laughs about it while kino escalating.
      If she can’t share a laugh with you about that, then I don’t know.

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    • Unbelievable that my “girl turns the other cheek, I turn the butt cheek” stratagem didn’t win this thread outright.

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  12. “you got herpes ? “

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  13. I’d just grab the bitch by the waist (I’m not GodEmperor enough to grab by the pussy)

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    • Close…pin her against the wall with your arms on both sides of her, then tease her by flirting with a kiss, but avoiding it. Been there, done that…my next door neighbor was my frat pres and his gf kept flirting with me in the hall when I’d pass her in my towel on the way to the shower…one time I grabbed her by the shoulders and pinned her against the wall and went for a kiss and she turned the cheek, smiling…I could have waited and teased her until she kissed me…my point was to get her to stop this shit…the frat pres was awesome and he knew his gf was into me and he didn’t care…he trusted me a hell of a lot more than he trusted his gf. You could give the girl in the photo a swat to speed up the process.

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    • HA! I like it.
      When in doubt do the Trump.
      Step in, pat lower back ‘Slippery one, sadly I´m short a billion to grab the pussy’..

      Actually had a comparable situation myself a couple of weeks ago with a solid 8 (in my eyes 9) hottie half my age (her in the middle twenties) and VERY verboten.
      After a week of constant banter, AMOGing and deep looks we managed to avoid disaster with a determined step in and good bye kiss on the cheek.

      Actually pretty much the opposite of this, now that I think of it.

      Next lesson, how to AVOID the lurid trap of game WITHOUT creating a wench that starts hating you for NOT going for it.

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    • Always grab your wife by the pussy though that shit will just stay heated 24 7

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      • yep…and look down her top (did that this a.m. and mrs. gamer held her top out so that I got a better view) and grab her ass…she’ll paw your crotch…mrs. gamer is very sensitive around the ears, so, of course, I always go for those and she’s always annoyed when I sneak up behind her and do that when she’s working at home, lol

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    • that just might work. he should have grabbed her and then kissed her. she’s got nowhere to go…

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  14. I would grab her and nibble-bite her shoulder, right then left.

    Her demeanor seems still fun and shit-testy.

    Or I would say “Dang your quick! Let’s try again at your apartment door.”

    This looks like a continuing test rather than a hard-stop.

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    • Exactly. He should have never leaned in without wrapping an arm around her waist and pulling her in.

      She wants competence. Demonstrate it and you’re in.

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  15. Look her straight in the eye and ask “You gonna put out or what?” That might be enough jerkboy to salvage the evening.

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  16. “Got herpes? Thanks.” Hold up my hand (talk-to-the-hand-style), ambiguously blocking/waving while turning away and leaving.

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  17. Look at the way she’s smiling when she tosses her head around. The guy should take a step closer to her and say “What are you smiling about?”

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  18. Tussle her hair, say gotcha!

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  19. “you’re really flexible, yoga, huh?”

    [CH: jerkboy responses are a rich vein of amusement, even if they don’t guarantee a kiss. For example, take a step back, breathe deeply, and say “OK, let’s try this again” then turn around and moon her.]

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    • Thread winner

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    • you don’t even have to pull your pants down…just bend over like you’re expecting a swat, then pull your butt away when she goes to hit it…tease her a bit like this, then change it up and dip her and spin her…take her by the shoulders and put her against the wall and do the things I wrote up top…demonstrating physical dominance and putting her off balance = tingles

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  20. on September 19, 2017 at 4:45 pm Unintended Consequences

    Wearing a huge purse with pink stripes kind of set the stage, didn’t it?

    If she did that to me I would have yanked down on the drop sleeves she’s sporting and left her tits in the wind as I walked out, but then I wouldn’t wear a purse.

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  21. I’ll make a little game out of this. I’ll say in slow words, somebody like to tease. Wonder what your evil plan could be? Surely you’re not trying to steal my virginity are ya? Make her crack up and relax then get closer. Play a guessing game with a little kino and takeways to build up a bit of heat. Then while she is relaxing and smiling go for a kiss.

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  22. Anything you do willmake you seem Tryhard snd Butthurt. Just rape the bitch.

    [CH: isn’t rape literally the most try-hard thing a man could do? she’s gonna put up more than token resistance.]

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  23. “Mm, love your cheeks….”, followed by tender smoojies.

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  24. I’d laugh uproariously at her. When she asked why I was laughing, I would take quite a while to stop and then say “oh, never mind, it would take too long to explain.”

    There are other possibilities involving humorous misinterpretation of her behavior, but unless you know her sense of humor well enough you can’t be sure they will be funny enough to do the trick, so let her stew.

    Maintain frame and it will get awkward for her, she’ll say “ok good night then” and walk in, at which point you make the snorting raspberry noise that signifies an unsuccessful attempt to suppress mirth, then say “sorry, I’m just…” and then turn away and walk off with your shoulders shaking and obviously trying to not laugh out loud. Maybe she’ll call you back, bug if she doesn’t don’t look back until you reach your car, if she’s still there give her a thumbs up sign and drive off.

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  25. Incipient THOT LORD: “Wow, you can really limbo!”

    THOT OF THE DAY: “Wait wut?”

    Swinging again at bat: “The way you moved your head and mouth back and forth.” Mimic for effect theatrically.

    (THOT mind goes there)

    Lord arising: “Just thought of kissing you but, ok, THAT’S alright too.” Smirks like a boss. “Let’s go on upstairs.” Holds frame and opens door, hand to her waist.

    THOT laughs and protests but it’s in her mind now. Escalate the kino as you walk upstairs.

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  26. I’d go for a kiss on the neck. It’s still exposed. Also I’d avoid standing with my feet that close together like a little boy seeking approval, and avoid carrying any kind of bag. At the very least I’d carry it more masculinely. This dude’s body language, mannerisms, and style of dress doomed him before he even started. He doesn’t strike me as the main subject of female pursuit in a romance novel, which is what I tend to use as a general guideline for behavior. He seems to be more like the side character that she parts ways with before seeing the jerkboy later that evening.

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  27. Go for the neck.

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  28. What’s all the luggage in aid of?

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  29. on September 19, 2017 at 5:09 pm Wrong Side Luciano

    weew lad

    she got ass.

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  30. Drop the bag with a bit of dramatic flair as if to say “OK it’s on now girlie.” Eye-fuck her, raise one eyebrow, cock head slightly to one side.

    Take a step towards her, close the gap. Grab her hand, hold firmly but caress the back of her hand with your thumb.

    Re-engage conversation briefly with something about the night. Call-back humor, bring up a topic that caused positive vibes from earlier in the night.

    Move in closer still, pull her in while staring deeply into her eyes.

    “I’ll see you later,” then move in for a wet kiss. If she melts, continue, if she stiffens, peel off, walk away, don’t look back.

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  31. “good call, my girlfriend would be jealous”

    or non verbal with a hip grab and push

    dude is chode but her gaze tells truth

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  32. I didn’t know you were into vampire bondage roll-play. Let me put in my fangs.

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  33. OT, though related–Emil OW Kirkegaard‏ is a Danish psychologist and dissident; an American libtard, female and hysterical, confronted an American friend of his in a Danish bar bc he was wearing a MAGA hat, throwing a glass at him in the end, yelling “racist” etc. I’m not happy with the friend’s reaction, I’d welcome suggestions on how to do it better.

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    • Sometimes, it’s better to keep calm and let the libtard make herself look like a total cvnt. Which is what happened here. Winning.

      And, thank goodness Danes appear to have considerably more sense than their relatives to their northeast.

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      • need to channel your Havery Keitel from Reservoir Dogs. You make like you gonna smack a bitch and she’ll shut up.

        SRS tho…these pussies need to get rocked. In what world do they think they live in that they can act this way? One where they think they the galactic overlord. and that’s not a world I want to live.

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    • i) Er, even I can hear that Miss Pudgy there isn’t any kind of American – presumably some sort of Nog larping as a Yank for whatever reason.
      ii) I was curious enough to look up some other sources of this odd little vid, and right at the end of one I am sure I heard none other than Franco Begbie describing her as a “fucking cunt”, at 1:10, right after the other lad with the comedy Danish accent whinges about assault.

      Verdict: lame clickbait got up by college kids
      Advice (to shouty young women): do not aggravate Begbie. There were bottles on that table.

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    • on September 19, 2017 at 7:22 pm Vagina dominator

      The cunt is nuts. Here is the solution:

      1. Needs fat, cervix-eroding white cock and choking, but as that was not possible at that exact moment, the hands-down reaction was perfect.

      2. When MAGA next sees her he can tell her that if the charge sticks, she will never get any job in the future better than wastebasket emptier.

      3. Tell her that if she wants to come along for a drink, she can buy the first round and they can talk about it.

      4. See Step 1.

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    • (drag the slider to 9:19)

      Spoken by a guy that, you can probably rest assured, as had a *lot* of experience with women.

      In the context of that video, it’s exactly what that hare-brained bitch needed. It would probably get you arrested, but it’s much better than whining about being physically assaulted (by a bitch!) and hate-crimed. God! It’s either slap the everlovin’ dog shit out of her or, after getting drenched, laugh and say, Of all the dames and all the gin-joints in the world…, then get up and go to the men’s room.

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  34. At first glance, this looks grim. But your inner game has to be ready for this and see the opportunity, where lesser men would see crisis.

    Notice her body language. She is precisely in the middle with this guy. Her hands are resolutely guarding access to her eggs from beta sperm. But she hasn’t crossed him off yet as a mate prospect – she doesn’t move her legs or push him away, and she smiles knowingly the whole time. This game is very much alive.

    After her bob and weave, you’d have to maintain an unperturbed smirk and lay on some jerkitude:

    “Afraid of smearing your lip gloss on me?”
    “Yeah, I thought so, that piece of lettuce is still there. Go brush, willya.”
    “Cute. But I bet you can’t limbo like that again.”

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    • Yeah… her teasing is so obvious and over-the-top, it’s quite clear that they both know and understand they’re flirting. He could still have her if he sacked up. Or even if he simply doesn’t gamma out.

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    • Yeah, I was also thinking of something along the lines of the food bit.

      I feel in his situation, you gotta neg just right, playfully, like it’s been said, in the jerkboy vain. Brush it off, open the door and tell her to get her ass inside.

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    • Incipient THOT Magnet: “Wow, how agile! And thanks for the offer!”
      THOT: wut?
      Master of the THOT: Mimics the motion in a manner most lascivious. Says: “just wanted a kiss, th you sure move fast..” smirks
      Thot enlightened, realizes the head bobbing implications, frowns upon the thought.
      Sword of THOT: drops luggage, reaches for her waist, laser eye her and try again.

      Option 2, an old CH classic, toddler games, since she’s acting childish

      “You smell nice…just like my grandma!”

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    • All good points Hackett…

      A few ways… close space, pull her in by waist, nuzzle her neck from base up to her ear then PUSH her away.

      Or channel Mystery… “you looked like you wanted me to kiss you. I wasn’t going to.” And roll off cool and collected and keep bantering.

      A kiss is just a diagnostic test to see where you are in the seduction. Don’t take either outcome – brush off or kiss – too seriously.

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  35. “Oh are you worried about your breath? Let me get you a mint”

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  36. What I’d do is let the embarrassment wash over me – and look unflinchingly into her eyes – then hold the tension until she breaks eye contact – politely say good night – and walk away without looking back.

    Two days later – text a picture of my chiropractors business card – and ask her out again… then rad her into a moment when the sexual tension is ripe to plant a kiss on her

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  37. You’ve gotta laugh right in her face,put your hands together, wiggle em around a bit and say “I’m feeling like a real snake charmer now!”
    Play it further with either jerkboy or tenderness depending on wether she answers with indignation or mirth.

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  38. “Too tame for you, huh?” Go for neck and/or shoulders. Proceed or not depending on response.

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  39. “Look just accept it or you’re going to be googling ‘best bruise concealment techniques’ all night”

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  40. imagine 63 floors lift ride with this
    could you ever recover afterwards

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  41. “I’m assuming a blow job is out of the question…..Well good night then.”

    Then open the door for her and slap her backside as she walks through .

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  42. Did you forget to brush your teeth?

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  43. on September 19, 2017 at 5:51 pm strongwhitecock

    I would do in the situation. First, I’d start with a coyish, beta question like “third times a charm?” followed by the beta lean-in again. This all being a lure to get her to bend her head back and away again, exposing her neck. When she does, yes as possible, I grabbed her hair at the back of her head, jerk her head back further, grab her by the ass and pull her crotch zone into my jerk her head back further, grab her by the ass and pull her crotch zone into my buldge, and bite the shit out of her neck, and leaving a well-deserved hickey. Whether she slapped me or just pulls away angrily, I would stand there with a shit eating grin on my face. “Next time, I won’t be so gentle if you aren’t a good kitten from the start.”

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  44. Given the stance he took:

    “Huh, I guess it isn’t the lighting. You really are starting to wrinkle.”

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    • Also, if they were just on a date, why does it look like he’s just arrived from the airport?

      All that baggage (heh) he’s got makes me wonder how they wound up at that point.

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  45. I would keep kissing the air with a loud smacking noise and my eyes closed, acting like she was actually laying one on me in the most overly dramatic style possible. Maybe wrap my arms around me while making out with my hand telemundo style.

    After I finished, I’d open my eyes and deliver a really ernest line like “Wow! That was amazing, I didn’t realize you were so into me” while giving her a wink and a smile. Then I’d follow up with a “We should do that again” while moving closer.

    After all she is smiling in this video and her movements are so overt that they strike me as more playful than standoffish. Capri-And-No-Show-Socks-Man is closer to the target than he knows, methinks.

    But, if it’s still a no go I’d make my exit with something like,

    “Don’t want too much in one night huh? Well, do try and think of something other than me while I’m gone, babe.”

    If she drops a parrying shit test line, I’d follow up with “Feisty. I like it. I love girls like you: all sass and no ass,” fake doff my cap, and beat a swaggering retreat.

    Alone, yes, but manhood and dignity still intact.

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  46. Drop the fucking luggage. What are you even doing carting her shit? And grab her, one hand on each buttock and grind it on her mons.while sticking your tongue down her neck.

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  47. on September 19, 2017 at 5:55 pm Ignatius O'Reilly

    “Slider…you stink.”

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  48. Agree, it does look like they’re together. Maybe he is coming back from a trip or visiting. Either way my move would be to chuckle, maybe say teasingly “ok I see how it is”, and proceed into the building (with her). Maybe open the door, hand on her lower back as she walks in, etc. Basically ignore and keep moving forward.

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  49. Kino touches have a way of subtly sparking connection.

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  50. My best first kisses… recently.. stopped them while walking to the next bar and did a quick hard kiss.. other than that the best bet is in a dark corner of the bar or lastly on her or your couch.

    If I was the guy in this video I’d immediately look down at tinder and hit up another girl because that one was long gone before he got to her door.

    An another note, I nominate the guy in this clip for shitlord of the week or month: https://youtu.be/vbr-F7WsChI

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  51. Afraid I’ll smell your breath?

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  52. “That’s a lot of makeup. Someone’s trying hard to impress me, huh”

    or

    “Thank you for respecting my space and boundaries, you really know how to make a lady feel special.” – This is honestly what I would say in that spot then maybe tell her next time she doesn’t have to be such a gentleman.

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  53. Easy one.

    I’d just say “Aww shucks” and hold my hand out to shake good night. I’d maintain eye contact the entire time until she released the handshake and then without blinking flip her the double bird – bam – kick to the gut and drop her in the stack of dimes she calls a neck with the Stunner.

    Then I’d get on the floor and yell at her an inch from her face and pull some beers from my pack and chug them over her unconscious body.

    Oh hell yeah!

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  54. Looks like she’s merely toying with him. They got luggage of sorts and she has a “wait till later” look more than a “no you don’t” air about her. It does not look like a “closing” situation.

    A hand to the side of her head and pulling her in gently but firmly (“you cannot just get away from me”), lay one on her cheek or side of her head and say “gotcha” then let go. Pressure and release concept.

    A note on the “kiss close”. IMO (and on observation) this is not a very good place to be in. Done wrong, it’s almost like saying “OK now I took you out give me my obligatory kiss”. It’s already a position of weakness, like a dog that just fetched for his master and expects a treat. It creates an awkward situation with a little bit of Shroedinger to it: if you expect the kiss you might look weak or entitled (looking weak still) but what if you don’t go for it? Would that be worse? It would be better to maintain the situation such that you don’t end up in the “it’s time for my treat” situation. Like try kissing earlier.

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  55. Le Pepe Me: “Dang, you foiled my cunning plan. Give me 5, girl.”
    Her: [as she tries to give me 5, I feint and let her hit the air]
    Me: “Too slow!”
    If she laughs, declare a draw and challenge her to a thumb fight. If she’s game, tease and eye-fuck her as she gets ready.

    Effect:
    1. De-escalate an embarrassing situation into a silly contest of oneupmanship.
    2. Reframe her actions as a game she’s playing.
    3. Get revenge in a non-spiteful manner.
    4. Frustrate her.

    Physical toddler game is a versatile tool in a player’s kit.

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  56. “Oh – I should have known to wait until after you take off your makeup.”

    That being said – it looks like a weird situation. It’s not the end of date. He’s returning from a trip. She’s carrying a book. Hmmm???

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    • on September 19, 2017 at 6:54 pm Vagina dominator

      It is a fascinating setup.

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      • on September 20, 2017 at 12:08 am Oleaginous Outrager

        I suppose it’s irrelevant to the thought experiment, but the gay seems strong with this one: the ankles-together stance, the odd head move right at the end.

        Is he even trying to kiss her? It’s looks more like he talking, and possibly drunk.

        Are those emergency service lights of some kind flashing in the car from which the video was taken?

        The luggage and his reaching into the large bag indicates it’s his place, not hers. Roped into picking up and delivering an out-of-town relative?

        Book or small white purse?

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    • Trying to dress her down verbally isn’t gonna do shit when she had the balls to physically avoid his kiss, your only option is to respond physically as well, and none of this take her by the hand or arm bullshit, you take her by the neck and force her to decide in a brief moment to submit to you or not. You don’t have to do it in a rapey fashion, just firm enough that her unconcious mind either submits (you’re fucking her) or fights (you’re not fucking her, time to walk).

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  57. Her:
    You: Laugh roariously and say “My cellmate is definitely ranking this at the top! Catcha later!

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  58. on September 19, 2017 at 6:30 pm snowdensjacket0x0x0

    First a flat, “wow”, will the thought in your head of what girl could resist me. Followed up immediately with a smirk and, “those are some nice moves. I’ll have to remember you can duck and weave that way when we get into our first fight”. Proceed to create some excuse to get into her apartment.

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  59. a hearty slap in her ass. then walk off as if nothing had happened

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  60. Why is the guy carrying enough luggage for a 4 day vacation?

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    • Is that an EE woman, an American/westerner who is visiting her in her country, trying to grab a kiss before he goes in to his hotel, and she’s not having it since he arrived 20 minutes before?

      Just a random thought.

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  61. Girls deserve kisses only after I fucked them

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  62. on September 19, 2017 at 6:50 pm Vagina dominator

    Say “What’s the matter? Have a bad experience with a white man?”

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  63. Freeze, face goes blank. Neck tweaks to the side. Arms go stiff at 90gree angles. Pivot. Do the Robot. ( Amuse ones self with antics that only you find funny)

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  64. on September 19, 2017 at 6:53 pm Vagina dominator

    “So now I’m not going to show you what’s in the bag.”
    “What’s in the bag?”
    “Dirty laundry. But if you wanna see it, you got to earn it.”

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  65. on September 19, 2017 at 6:57 pm Vagina dominator

    He gets back into the car. HIs pal (videoing) says
    “What happened?”
    “Oh,” shrugs, “she said she had a sty in her eye, but I couldn’t see anything.”

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  66. “I’m not even left handed” and then switch hands

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  67. on September 19, 2017 at 6:59 pm Vagina dominator

    Gently grab her blouse and pull it up to cover her shouders.

    “Then I suppose all of this bare skin isn’t really necessary.”

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  68. “I was right about you. You have probably never been kissed… Maybe even a virgin (lol).” Contrapposto, leaning away as if leaving in dissatisfaction and disappointment. Her reaction is your “in” to further game her…

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  69. on September 19, 2017 at 7:04 pm Vagina dominator

    How about the spergy movement patterns where his arms hang at his sides like a robot and his feet don’t move, like he’s leaning out over a cliff to bite an apple. And at the same time he is loaded down like a burro and all she has to carry is that little pussy-blocking clasp.

    Truly, body language *is* 90% of communication.

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  70. spin her around and take her from behind. give her the finger blaster.

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  71. I’ve been in this situation. I ignore the head turn. I would open the entry door, walk in, quickly pull it closed behind me and begin walking towards the elevator.

    She would do one of two things: 1) start pounding on the door or playing along with the gag and say “Let me in!” in which case I’d turn around, open the door and start the make out.

    2) She’d sulk and walk away. In that case it’s soft-next for at least 1 week.

    Either way, I win.

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    • on September 19, 2017 at 7:28 pm Vagina dominator

      Yeh, she may have spotted him as a beta provider and is wanting to box him into his (thirsty) place. Certainly he is carrying all the shit and she has nothing but that pussy-clasp.

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  72. With a kind of cocky, pretend confused look… “Wow…the rumors about you *were* true. I owe my buddy a drink.”

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  73. Grab her ass as she walks in. Smirk as she looks back in horror.

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    • this. glad someone else realized this is how you unequivocally win the chess match taking place in that situation.

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  74. Better to turn bad tension into good tension and resist the temptation to break it with a song and dance. Stand up straight, lock eyes, raise one brow, avoid making a goofy grin. Hold until she laughs or speaks. Proceed normally after that.

    Judging by the bags, this is his stop as well – or at least, he is carrying her stuff. Maybe a shared apartment building. Either way, it’s fair to expect a beer. Game normally, but this time escalate to kiss close with real kino. Clink glasses, lean in to speak low and close, use some familiar gestures, really anything to begin escalating good kino from a lower level. Don’t stand two feet away and then try to launch a surprise kiss attack after a long silence without eye contact; build to it. Don’t cut the tension, work with it.

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  75. President Trump’s United Nations speech like the nest steal I ever ate he he he
    He is God

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  76. Damn moderation….

    Her: (matrix kiss dodge)
    You: Laugh uproariously and say “My cellmate won’t be able to top this one! Catcha later! (Wait for her call, it WILL come)

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  77. I call foul, CH. That is a trick question. There is no amount of game, at this late stage in the ‘date’ (if it is a date) that is going to save Mr. No Socks. Her body language clearly says, “I can’t wait until this evening is over.” She is not close to him, her hands are in front of her holding a purse blocking her vag, and she has that “you and I cannot be more than friends” smile going on. He clearly played, Mister Nice Guy all evening (or all day) with her, and blue balls are his only reward.

    If Mr. No Socks had any game, he needed to use it long before this point. He is like the Germans after surrendering at Stalingrad. No military strategy is going to help now…just the long cold march the f*ck out of there.

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    • That video is actually tough to watch. I’ve watched Africans necklace people with tires with less cringing than watching this.

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    • Maybe his best retort at this point, if he has the balls for it, would be to say (as he is fumbling around in that bag of his), “Good thing I packed my penis pump for this trip!”

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      • Or, “Good thing I packed my blowup doll! It never refuses me, and I don’t even have to buy it dinner.”

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      • Unlike some other commenters, above, who think that they can go in for another kiss or grab her, they are wrong. She is in blocking mode, and will just get more defensive if you get close to her, or touch her. To a feminist bitch, that’s tantamount to rape. Instead, I would verbally challenge her as frigid, cold, odd, weird, whatever, to the point that she would walk away from me (hopefully pissed), because that will get her hamster wheel spinning. Better to have her pissed off at you (which is just a short step away from tingles) than to have her not think about you (or think about what a lame, boring beta date you were). I would do this only if I were using some game off and on the whole evening, instead of being Mr. Nice Guy the whole time instead (which, again, is probably what he was doing). At least that way, it would be in character with some of your persona throughout the date. Going from Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde, with no in between, would just make you appear to be a nutter.

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      • Well, I think the rules essentially guaranteed some pretty clumsy responses (including my own). It’s painfully obvious that Game will NOT work here and that, in fact, cutting your losses is pretty much the only option. However, since that’s disallowed, it leads to solutions that nobody really believes in.

        The truth is that he has clearly dived permanently below her floor of potential mate consideration. She’s repulsed by him, and not in a way that could conceivably lead to tingles — it’s the contemptuous repulsion of a woman who has decided the guy has no value whatever. There is no retrieving the situation. He’s blown it, and any attempt to “Game” will lead to either no result except looking desperate, or to a nice talk with the police if it’s pushed too far.

        But since we’re pretty much obliged to pretend otherwise in order to participate, it leads to half-ass solutions.

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      • The only thing to do after playing Mr. Nice Guy is to just do a cold walk away (inside the hotel) after she rebuffed your (weak) North Korean-style lip missile attack from a 1,000 miles away. That means no verbal weakness before you high tail it. No, “Well, I had a nice time, I’d like to see you again”, or “So…what are you doing this next [day of the week]? There is an art show at the park that day, and a soap museum nearby that I have just been dyyyyying to see”, or “Yeah, so give me a call if you want, like…if you feel like it…you know…no pressure or anything, as I just like talking with you (and clinging to your awesome aura).”

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      • Johnny, the guy’s body language is so childish and needy and chasing and the girl is cockteasing him…she is smiling…if he just showed some nonverbal dominance, like I suggested above, her arms would uncross.

        When I pinned the girl in my comment above, her hands were flat against the wall even though she was avoiding a kiss…her head was lowered while it was turned to the side…the arms weren’t crossed…and the girl I pinned was also a cocktease

        The girl I pinned had been involved in setting up my frat initiation thru her bf who was the frat pres so that three frat bros stripped me after they caught me and the girl just happened to be there to witness it with two of her sorority sisters and she gave me her coat to wear…it was 38F

        After that she continued flirting with me when she passed me on my way to shower until I pinned her, then she stopped cockteasing

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      • Ironsides is correct.

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      • Ironsides is wrong. The only solution is physical dominance and it is the correct solution.

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      • Yeah. If you grab her and force something you’re gonna go to jail. Especially if the person recording it is her friend. You would get charged with sexual assault, unlawful imprisonment (for holding her against her will), etc. You would get put on blast on the msm too.

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    • This.

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    • Every married man has experienced this moment after returning from outdoor labor in the hot sun or a deer-camp weekend of poor oral hygiene.

      You either sniff your pits or put your hand over your mouth and check your breath, and then say, “Damn. My bad.” Then, turn away.

      Most women who harbor any interest will try to bridge the gap. A truly combative women will assert HER reason for rejecting you, which will provide another opening.

      Note that in the example CH provides, the girl is still facing the man. She’s wary, but engaged. Her eyes are still on him and his eyes, and she hasn’t turned away. What you’re witnessing is a slut defense, so, “assume the sale,” but also assume she’s still negotiating and address her concerns.

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    • I think the contradiction here is that a man with enough game could salvage the situation, but a man with that much game wouldn’t put himself in that position to start with.

      This post is for the betas who stumble into this situation, so they can either salvage the date, or salvage their dignity.

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      • This because the beta is always looks for that silver bullet, but the alpha is that silver bullet. The alpha can get into these situations and even handicap his game as an element of surprise or self amusement and easily escape or even for a self challenge. The beta however is best not getting stuck here ever.

        Fake it till you make it is the best advice because assuming the sale is the most purely alpha pose a man can take.

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  78. Sarcastically/jokingly quip “wow, do you always move this fast?”

    From there on out, any time she brought that situation up, you’d say “yeah you were all over me that night, couldn’t keep your hands off, it was ridiculous”.

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  79. “Jesus would be proud.”

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  80. Turn 90 degrees left, say “excuse me,” and start tonguing my arm sensually.

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  81. They look to me like a couple playing w each other more than the end of a bad date.

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  82. I’m not sure that it is possible, in a practical sense, to come back from this level of snub, with this timing, and in this place.

    I suppose that a “I shouldn’t have tried for that, I apologize, because what I really wanted to know is if you wanted to fuck” might stand a chance at triggering her need for cock, if it’s there at that moment, and basically make her forget whatever other beta shit this guy did on the date.

    However, both his beta boy distance from her, and her reaction, tell me that this guy has an entire night of beta behavior to recover from. I doubt that she’s anything but dry at this point. And if she’s dry after 2-4 hours of this guy’s behavior, nothing he can say or do at the door is going to change her mind / make her wet short of the direct Hail Mary that I before suggested, but I have my doubts given the probable situation.

    Whomever suggested grabbing her by the neck after that level of snub is asking to scare the shit out of this girl in a manner that might bring cops in. With how she reacted to him, you basically have to think that she thinks of this guy with the equivalent sexuality of a geriatric. If an old man grabbed her by the neck and tried to kiss her, would she call the cops? Yep.

    Most successful attraction behavior will have the girl coming toward you. That hasn’t happened here. Instead, the guy looks like he went toward her the entire date and she learned to move away, figuratively and then literally speaking.

    Attractive behavior on dates includes some carelessness for risk, kino, grinding, buying her drinks, talking about sex in a natural manner, being socially normal, not being afraid of her or treating her delicately, social proof from other attractive women and men, etc. A skilled mix of these things would have landed him that kiss, or an invite upstairs.

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  83. Turn my back, shove my hand down my pants, and start to self-pleasure right there.

    She’ll freak and try and scold me. “What the fuck are you doing?!”

    “Sometimes I misbehave.”

    Aloof, uninterested, totally rogue. The nuclear shift from uber beta to rule-less pleasure seeker will blow her hamster into outer space.

    Reframe, back off for a min, go at her again.

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  84. Please tell me he isn’t digging in his garment bag for a business card …

    [CH: lol i’d give him points if he followed up with “see these are the leads, but you don’t deserve the leads.”]

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  85. Oh man this is rich. For god’s sake !!!

    ” Illiterate Detroit School Board President. ”

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  86. Good night. Back turn. Walk away.

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    • beta. you will never reach peak cad without using moments like this as opportunities to test your skills and experiment.

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  87. ‘What’s wrong? Is that thing on your face contagious?’

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  88. on September 19, 2017 at 8:23 pm snowdensjacket0x0x0

    Alright I’m gonna step you nerds through this because all of your answers are awful. You step back, look her straight in the face (because this nuclear shit test is the jewlocaust part 2 or a vag explosion depending on how you act right now, so she will absolutely be staring to see if she just fire bombed your heart and soul or if you are the magalpha of her dreams), and you say “wow”. In her “heart” she is thinking, ‘wow…?’, (did I just destroy yet another betafag loser? Or….). You only let your wow sink in for just a second, so that she doesn’t think, “and here dies another betafag”.

    Just as that thought is crossing her lips (heh) you respond with an agree and amplify, “look at you stick and jive, I gotta remember you can move like that when we get into our first fight”. Here are you hearing, twisting her rejection of you back into her chasing you (she wants your commitment, and you just put that in front of her, in ‘our first fight’), while making light of her temporary rejection. While the heart between her legs is still slightly spinning from your blank “wow”.

    She will not know how to react. Which is perfect.

    “Let’s go inside. I’m kind of drunk and I need some coffee before I drive home” (bad boy vulnerability, gets you into her apartment. Where more moves.)

    Come the fuck on guys. I can’t be the only old man here who already done that.

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    • ^^^

      You’re trying too hard

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    • No dork. Would not world in this situation.

      She is DISGUSTED by him because of his betatude the preceding 2 hours.

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      • on September 19, 2017 at 10:18 pm snowdensjacket0x0x0

        Yeah guess what it’s only you pathetic nerds who were beta for the past two hours.

        God why even bother to read your pathetic stories when I’ve got my wife and four kids to look after? Hell go be your pathetic self. Why do I even go online?

        Go off. And gene die. Gene death for you betafag. Let my kids rule, right after we jewlocaust 3.0, or are we at 4.0 now? Hey we better get on that.

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      • Angry chap. Needs to unwind with a wench and a bottle of Woodford.

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    • these lines simply aren’t funny.

      None of them are, not yours and not the rest. They’re lame and canned.

      If you wait till the end of the night do not go in for the kiss. Just say hey see ya later and she will kiss you if she’s inclined.

      I’ve been given the cheek many times, but I went for a kiss far earlier in the date. That way I can order her another drink and continue being funny and eventually yes I either got the kiss or got arrested lol

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    • 1st of all, that’s not Agree & Amplify. 2nd of all, please don’t bother to read our pathetic stories anymore. 3rd of all, I don’t know what a jewlocaust 3.0 or 4.0 is (please don’t explain it). 4th of all, you write like a retarded hick.

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    • this is all gay

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  89. I think I would most likely stop, then, turn around look up into the sky and say “What the heck were you just looking at?” totally ignoring the kiss fail, and just see what she says, move on from there as if nothing happened and press on.

    I could come up with something better, but I am going with this because it was the first thing to flash in my head and it more “authentic” as to what I would actually do.

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  90. 1. Smile like a goon and laugh.
    2. Double middle fingers.
    3. Kick her in the gut.
    4. STUNNER! BY GAWD KING, STONE COLD STUNNER!

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    • If you actually did that ok den

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    • Lolzozozoz

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    • on September 19, 2017 at 10:22 pm snowdensjacket0x0x0

      God damn you betafags make me sick. You’re all so incredibly pathetic. Go jack off to more porn I’ve uploaded.

      But whatever you do never ever listen to me when I tell you how I’ve done what I’ve done. Why? You could even beat me at Starcraft, dota, or whatever faggot game you’re playing right now.

      Seriously 95% of this comment section makes me want to vomit. Whatever you do though dude don’t ever listen to me, just go jack off to the porn I’ve uploaded and pretend. Faggot.

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      • Awright, that does it! My agents are using their cyber skills to hunt you down as we speak. I’ll have you know I’m a Green Beret SEAL in the Marines, and I have more than 100 confirmed kills to my credit. Don’t even think about running from me, because you’ll just die tired. I am about to come down on you with the force of a thousand exploding suns, and your last regret will be that you didn’t find a soft spot to fall down before you ever messed with me!

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      • I’m starting to like this guy. Reminds me of Tom Jones.

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      • 200 comments, and not one of them from Xtrabeing!

        X, we could really use your help right now, so if you’re not too busy, could you give us some game pointers? Please?

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  91. “Hey, you ever noticed that during really good sex people don’t look at each other?”

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    • And she’s thinking “I threw out my best shit test and he still didn’t take the bait. This guy’s a player with zero fucks to give in any situation. Probably why I’m so wet right now.”

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  92. jeez. this kid doesn’t know that women were made to carry heavy loads. hand the bitch one of the bags. get her doing something useful by helping you out. then reward her with a kiss… if she does a good job.

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  93. Grab her face plant one solid and run away victory arms in the air laughing like an evil genius

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  94. Nothing can be done at this point after he’s fucked it up that badly. Sorry.

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  95. on September 19, 2017 at 9:21 pm everlastingphelps

    You’re committed to kino at that point. Go for her hands. Hands are wild cards. Grab her hand (which she has out for grabbing) and maneuver her into the corner. From there, it’s a judgment call. Face to face with noses almost touching but not and constant eye contact is probably better than a mediocre kiss.

    Then, when the elevator opens, tell her “bye” and walk away. Take the stairs to another floor.

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  96. Did you learn that in yoga class?

    Your form was a little off, I’ll give you another test later.

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  97. She is smirking — Big Time.

    She has her vag shield in place.

    It’s time to cross the threshold — and tipsy her up.

    BTW, never go-for-the lips before establishing kino elsewhere on the body. Never.

    Step 1: Pull the book away so that she can open the door. If it’s not a purse, it’s fine and dandy for a stand-up guy to carry a lass’ burden.

    Step 2: Protect her to her own door. Creeps, creeps, there are elevator creeps everywhere.

    Step 2(a): Kino in the shaft.

    Step 2(b): You’d better carry that heavy tome into her bedroom, being a gentleman and all.

    Step 2(c): Pit stop in powder room after a night of libation.

    Step 3: That’s a fine MP3 collection…. Wine, too.

    Step 3(a): Nice view, what else can one see from here ?

    Does the view go everywhere ?

    Step 4: Are those dentures ? … Prove it.

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  98. on September 19, 2017 at 9:33 pm culturedmasculinity

    wow just saw that it was a video, not just a picture that showed the huge physical distance between them.

    as a Latin, i always greet with a kiss on the cheek. weird or not, it’s par for the course. and the kiss, Americans, is not lips to cheek, it’s cheek to cheek. avoids the creep factor.

    i would’ve called her out on her pretentiousness or bad manners because i have a precedent to rely on (most girls don’t turn down a greeting cheek-to-cheek kiss because they’re open to how the date is going to go. plus kino). but i wouldn’t have sounded butt hurt going off precisely the initial greeting: “weirdo”.

    one word followed by “good night, here are your things”.

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  99. Draw back and hiss at her, ‘I can smell your count’. Works every time.

    [CH: i know this is a typo, but “i can smell your count” works too.]

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  100. Fuck I dunno. My first reaction would be to drop the bags, place my hands against the glass inside her arms (gently forcing her arms away from the crotch cover she also be doing there), and bump her sweetspot with my loins a bit (and maybe grind a bit too if she don’t immediately freak-out). No kiss. Probably the wrong thing to do though. But that strapless top she wearing – damn. If she let me I gonna caress that neck of hers with my lips though. Look’in like to me she might be offering that up.

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  101. “Darlin’ I said no dancing”

    “I wasn’t dancing” (or “you wish” or “excuse me?” etc.)

    (smirks) “exactly”.
    Frame re-established, move on with the date and follow up with kino.

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  102. on September 19, 2017 at 10:04 pm A narco capitalist

    He should pull a playground move. He should go, “No, you’re doing it wrong. It’s supposed to be like this.” Then drop his things, turn around with his back to her, and place his hands on his shoulders and back of his head and do the self-make-out motions. Always gets a laugh.

    [CH: that’s a good one]

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  103. what do you do when you find a whore? Whorefinder rape!

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  104. I would have cracked a joke. Damn…my breath that bad? Laughed, opened the door for her and walked away without looking back.

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  105. She’s got a big smile because she’s gatekeeping the sex. He should close the relationship door pronto. Say “good luck with your cats” and walk away…only stopping if she runs after and grabs his arm.

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    • She’s cockteasing…that’s the reason for the smile. She wouldn’t bother to cocktease if the guy was totally unattractive to her.

      [CH: this is why the clip is such great “test of your game” material. I see her smile too, and it means there’s an opening to game her into a more physically receptive mood.]

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  106. I dunno . Maybe another way to go would be drop the bags and say something along the lines – “wtf – you fancy yourself a southern belle – you want me to kiss your hand?” and take a hold of her damn hand and guide her to raise to you, to offer to it you, and then kiss her damn hand. And then move away a bit and slouch against the glass and tell her “you know I want a better parting good wishes than that. Come on over here and show me you got some manners”. When she approaches – well, take her by thew waist, and let her kiss you. If she don’t – oh well then. Too much drama. Fuck it. But she probably will. Look at her – she is actually having fun with this game of hers.

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  107. He blew it long ago, so might as well hold the frame and go more nuclear in hopes of sparking intrigue and attraction.

    “Not the kissing type? Awesome. Let’s head upstairs and whoever loses thumb wrestling gets their hair pulled.”

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  108. Very lame responses so far. Surprised, as the comment section is usually the best part of CH. The guy is clearly a beta-gamma, while the blond, bare-shouldered girl is clearly an airhead, who just wants a fun-filled, entertainment-saturated life, toying with men. In other words, your typical American woman.

    NO KINO here. VERBAL dismissal is key.

    “Thanks for sparing me that. Lose some weight.” (she’s thin, which means she LOVES being thin and would be SHOCKED to hear that).

    “I’m getting a bipolar vibe from you. Ran out of your meds?”

    “You make me think of one word: LITHIUM”

    “There are many fish in the sea. I’m throwing you back. See ya.”

    “Thanks for the boxing lesson. I’m going to my Fight Club now.”

    She MUST be cut down to size. American women have egos the size of giant hot air balloons. They must be punctured. The golden rule of game is SHE chases you, because YOU are the PRIZE.

    If she doesn’t chase you, a sharp psychological axe must be swung to cut down her California Redwood ego.

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  109. He should have left after the first dodge and said nothing and not look back. He never laid on adequate ground preparation and has blown it. He might recover by being a dick but she has already outed herself as a born again virgin.

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  110. I’m such a sperg that I wouldn’t have even gone for a kiss, but noticed something weird on her face/neck

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  111. You know maybe another way to go would be drop the bags, and look at her serious-like (but you know – with some heat), stand squarely, clasp you hands in front of you, index fingers held together, both pointed her way and say – “my dear, you neck line is truly divine’. and reach with one had and caress her there. Then tell her that you want to suck her blood and that you will definitely arrange for that for the next date.

    If she doesn’t flake on next date – game-on.

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  112. What did Rhett Butler say to Scarlett O’Hara?

    “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.”

    VERY scandalous in 1939. Fathers forbade their daughters to see the film for that ONE word.

    Well, what did Scarlett do? She reacted as all women do to Alphas:

    “I think of a way to get him back. After all, tomorrow is another day!”

    Swing the sharp psychological battle axe to the Giant Redwood Ego of the American Womyn. Never in a butthurt way. Always with a twinkle in the eye, and a snigger in the soul.

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  113. Alright – if the vestibule is open to the street (not clear from the vid), the dude could drop his bags, turn away and take a step towards the street and start howling at the moon. She will definitely say all incredulous-like “what are you doing!!?”. And then he could say – “I’m just howling at the moon, sharing my lonely lament with all my brethern out there on the prowl”. And tell her to “come on over, give it try – it’s theraputic!”. And hopefully he can convince her to loosen up and howl at the moon too. And then he should put his arm around her and howl together. Then tell her that is how the wolves say a proper good night to their midnight squeeze. Then squeeze her. Who knows she might just kiss the dude after all that. Seems like a lot of work though for a kiss.

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    • this is the dumbest fking thing I’ve honestly ever heard. Go from being a tryhard to a psycho creep in the span of a second

      [CH: i don’t think some of these comments are meant to be taken seriously….i hope.]

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      • Hahahaha! – I am psycho. Pretty sure you are too – never met anybody that was wasn’t. Let it out man – go outside and howl at the moon tonite – you might like it.

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  114. say “Imitating Neo from the Matrix?” Then cut your losses. I know you said cutting your losses isn’t an example of Game, but come on! With obvious body language like that; I can fee his shame burning from the screen. Her action wasn’t a hint to decipher and ponder for later, and you have to be that dense not to see it. We all have been there, blowing it big time with a hot chick. That is why abundance mentality is so important. It’s that ability to save your ego, say there is other fish in the sea, and walk away with some of your dignity still intact.

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  115. on September 20, 2017 at 2:53 am Vagina dominator

    Ask her about her favorite baby names. Tell her you think one of the babies should be named after her (the girl of course, snigger) and one after yourself (the boy! Hello!). Or after whoever the father turns out to be.

    So, what about that drink now?

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  116. If you want a chance at turning these sorts of things around, you need to reframe her rejection as garden-variety token resistance, aka a minor shit test she’s pulling on you to test your alpha frame. This is how I’d handle it:

    “Woops, I lost my balance there, heh… I hope you don’t think I’m a slut”

    I’d start off deadpan but then shift to a smirk so she knows I’m sarcastic and egoistically unperturbed. The second part is delivered in a mocking tone to reframe sexual embarrassment as a female emotion that doesn’t apply to me (since I’m a bold, reckless player who doesn’t worry about occasionally jumping the gun).

    Even if she didn’t think you were particularly alpha in your execution, you may be able to salvage it if you convey that your sloppiness is borne from too much rather than too little experience with women. Convincing her that you interpreted the rejection as a shit test rather than a disgust reflex accomplishes this.

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  117. Dawn girl, you are a master at pantomime!

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  118. “”AAaanndd…..no dandruff! I’m surprised.

    So um…Look, I was meaning to tell you allnight, but I never found the right moment. But it would be crueller not to tell you…

    This trip is no ordinairy business trip…Actually I am going to be gone for some months…I may not be back at all. I have a great opportunity that I need to go for.

    Don’t be mad, OK?”

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  119. This is a real mindfuck for me because this shit don’t happen to me anymore, thank the gods for the teachings of RM and CH (and R.Greene-laws of Power). When on a “date” I sit next to my woman, not ACROSS from her, have my arm around her immediately, and am usually kissing her within the hour. This one tactic alone has worked wonders-it shows intent, confidence, desire. You know, good shit.

    All that said my initial instinct is to grab her by the hips, pull her in and try again. If I just got the cheeks again she’d get a peck on the cheek and I’d turn away and cut my loses. Some of the other physical suggestions while amusing, are potentially problematic. I hate to sound like a herb, but we MAGA men live in strange, dangerous times, as that psycho bitch in the bar displayed in the video above. I work in a CA state prison, and like it or not, the potential for assault charges have to be taken into consideration in sceneriors like this.

    I fail to see where further talk or “conversation ” is going to be productive here. I still lack confidence in my lines at times, in those instances I go with ACTION. Most of the verbal suggestions offered are of the “get ur clown on” variety, which is great, but I think we’re past the point of words with this bitch (I was thinking to tell her it’s ok she needs to go to the dentist with that shit breath going on, but I doubt that’d get her wet).

    I rarely if ever comment, but this was a great, thought provoking exercise which inspired introspection on my part. Thanks CH! MAGA

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    • Yes – that’s the problem the vid vignette seems to be presenting. How to move to kino after not doing that right earlier. Watch the vid a few times and you will clearly see she still in the game tho. She doesn’t physically move away, she still stands in close proximity, doesn’t take a step back, doesn’t turn her body away, …. she is feigning the ‘don’t kiss me’ with amusement, it’s more like come and get me, arched back, exposing her neck, emphasizing exposure of her pert little breasts.

      Dropping the bags shows intent to take advantage of that. Drop the bags and take advantage of it. Which way the dude goes after dropping the bags with the intent of taking advantage of the opportunity she is still presenting depends on too many fleeting variables to list here. The point being … drop the bags… escalate to kino ….. see which way it goes (but come’on, it’s the neck, that what she wants), and don’t be too overbearing or rapey about it.

      Maybe some words are OK depending what happens next. If he feels this nut ain’t gonna be cracked that night, (which is what he is thinking by way of his own body language), then …. give her a story, a script, a narrative to have everything that happened fit into, and alright, for future salvation purposes, even if it ends up only being for the purpose of maintaining his own self-respect, …. – take control of the framing of the event for her (i.e. – to make what her actions and intent showed, and his, OK for the both of them – both her ‘come get me’ plus her ‘but I don’t want you’ actions and intentions, and his own ‘I want you’ action and intention).

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  120. Dance.
    I’m a musician, hear me out:
    Doubling down with more aggression after two consecutive denials would be disastrous. “Yes ladder” principles apply here. Without the long, slow burn of normal escalation and with such poor body language, she’s likely already “clenched” away from him in every sense. His leaning in further solidifies in her mind the wisdom of her withdrawing.

    What he needs is a re-set button, and this is where it gets tricky. He needs to do something that shows attunement to the reality of her rejection without overtly acknowledging it. Something that is playful and silly enough to be less threatening, but in a ZFG way that lets him still stay in the game. So how do you re-engage her without pawing, and yet step back without withdrawing? Watch again. See how she adroitly avoids his longing lips with a Stevie Wonder-esque jerk of the head from side to side? Girl’s got rhythm. This is a good thing. Pacing and leading is your friend. He attempts the kiss twice, and with expert timing she rhythmically bops her head( and entire body to an extent) first to the left, then right.

    As she returns to center, step back slightly, jerkboy smirking, and with eyes showing a sense of playfulness and deluded “it’s still on” confidence, continue following her motions as if what just preceded was a dance. Something you’re doing *together*. It doesn’t matter if she stops moving and continues eyeing you cautiously. If you can immediately seize that moment without hesitation, there is, however small, a chance. So with a smile on your face, rock your body side to side for one more repetition. You can move poorly as long as she gets the message. While still moving and immediately afterward, ad-lib something like “Oh, dance party time, yeah!” Sprinkle in backhanded negs as you see fit e.g. “You actually have a decent sense of rhythm”, “Sadie Hawkins blah blah blah…”

    If you’ve built at least enough attraction during the date(s) for her to not want you dead, if you can smoothly transition from awkward to awesome and if she still likes you at all, she’s probably smiling now too. Now the ice is broken. Smiles, movement, possibly laughter. You’ve turned her from repulsion to confusion to amusement in the space of four shakes. You’ve demonstrated awareness of your own prior mistakes and remedied them without apology, spiking her attraction further. Now plow in your own preferred way. This is where having your verbals dialed is essential. The content of your words is virtually irrelevant as long as you keep moving, your words taking place of the dance like movements. If you’ve got her back, chances are she will take on an apologetic tone, if only to rationalize her reestablished feelings of arousal. As if to say “Oh, my, this is awkward. I didn’t realize who I was dealing with.”

    Leverage the moment as far into more escalation as she allows. I personally would not attempt another kiss on the street. Verbally plow her with the intent to actually plow her. Joke and tease her with an “I understand what a big mistake you were about to make.” Invite myself up, “coffee, beer, bathroom.” Whatever. If, again, a big If, she has responded well, the only hope is to spiral up on the wings of her surprise. A mixture of attraction, confusion and guilt could lead upstairs. If not, just cut out.

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  121. There are three pieces of context here that matter:

    1- He is kissing her from a non-kino position. They are standing far apart, closed body language. He has done a poor job of turning up the physical heat during their evening out.

    2- She is standing at his door, meaning she followed him all the way there and, on some level, expects to escalate. This demonstrates compliance and interest. If she was truly uninterested, she would have left him a long time ago.

    3- She doesn’t want to kiss him (yet). This relates to #1. He isn’t getting her engine going – being too weak, probably or maybe distracted (holding laundry?)

    To summarize:

    1- Failed to lay ground work for escalation
    2- She is interested
    3-Attacked (kissed) from position of weakness

    So,

    1-Ignore. Assume she is interested, but playing games. Don’t even acknowledge her bad behavior.

    2-Keep going inside. Move forward with purpose. Assume she will follow. (If she does not, then she is not into it).

    3-While waiting for elevator, put your arm around her lightly and pull her in a bit. Look at her and say a few warm (ideally funny) comments about the night. Inside joke reference would be great. Let go when elevator arrives.

    4-In the elevator, after a few seconds, grab her waste again and pull her in close. Look at her with direct eye contact and smirk. Kiss her passionately.

    5-Bang.

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  122. Surely its too late and nothing can be done to make things good. Just say goodnight and walk away. Anything else will just be digging a bigger hole.

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  123. Slowly “air touch” her boobs and grab her ass as well in same manner. With accompanying words like “you are good for practicing”.

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  124. on September 20, 2017 at 5:40 am Wrong Side Luciano

    feint wit the head. drop the luggage, get into a boxing stance and act like she’s slipping punches.

    smug, man of mischief smile

    seriously

    not a gotdamn single word needs to be spoken

    least of all cornball wordy one liners that nobody would say on the fly like this a How I Met Your Mother episode

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  125. turn around, slump down, subtly take out my dick, jerk off furiously but without her knowing. when she comes to comfort me, turn around and BAM jizz all over her face. then tell her ‘play stupid games, win cummy faces’

    no contact for 2 weeks then propose via text

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  126. The first wave. First wave. First wave. Let that sink in. Thanks Trump !!

    – First wave of refugees to US from Pacific camps imminent – Australia –

    A first wave of refugees will leave remote Pacific detention camps and be resettled in the US in coming weeks, Australian authorities said Wednesday, under a deal that has rankled President Donald Trump. Canberra sends asylum-seekers who try to enter the country by boat to processing facilities on Nauru and Papua New Guinea’s Manus Island, with those found to be refugees barred from resettling in Australia. They are instead relocated to third countries, or resettled elsewhere in PNG. Immigration Minister Peter Dutton said the first group were expected to depart PNG and Nauru “in coming weeks.” The refugees “will receive notification of the outcome of their application to resettle under the US Refugee Admissions Program in coming days,” he said. (AFP)

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  127. I’d say “call me”, while taking a leak against the window.

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  128. She learns back and reveals her nostrils
    “Oh, booger! Gross!” And take a step back myself with a big grin.
    Reset from there

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  129. on September 20, 2017 at 6:43 am Clane Machirrica

    This one is a tough challenge, and the Komment Krew is not coming through with anything plausible to retrieve the situation, so far.

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  130. Fuck, CH, almost all these guys are kj’s.

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  131. I was at wally world yesterday waiting in line at the self checkout…the hot attendant approached me and said she would “take care of me”…I was wearing a red T and black shorts and I’m an old fucker…I replied, “So you’ll take care of me, huh?”…she blushed and we chatted and she told me about her drink preferences since I bought beer and I told her that Mrs. Gamer doesn’t like beer and she doesn’t drink around her kid and she only drinks with her husband…and she asked for my Id even though she could have put in any old birthday to do age compliance…getting intel…strong IOI…while we chatted she blushed a couple of more times…lots of IOIs…I don’t do married girls, so I was just having fun and she got a little attention and something to think about the rest of her shift and maybe her day was a little brighter…always be bringing value

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  132. Look at her with an expression of sad pity and say: “In a few short years your beauty will fade and you’ll be wondering why no man wants to kiss you anymore. Oh well, not my problem.”
    Then immediately walk away without saying another word, with an air of having more important things to do. Never contact her again.

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  133. “Game 101: kino escalation is your night-long companion”

    I second this. My last two Tinder dates, both of whom I closed that same day, said they got wet as soon as I took their hand and started tracing my fingers up their forearms. It doesn’t take much.

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  134. I know Heartiste doesn’t want people to throw in the towel, but honestly part of game is to have another options to just walk off without another word.

    When a girl gets you in the beta zone, it’s like 10% odds you’re gonna change her mind on that. It’s called the friend zone. And after a night of this guy not escalating, not having game, not passing shit tests, etc., he has essentially shown her multiple times that he is beta. And one or two alpha displays isn’t gonna bust him out of that zone.

    Girls want a man who is effortlessly alpha. They want a dude who “gets it”, and what that means is they want a guy who autonomously is wired to consistently demonstrate high value in almost every circumstance because it is natural for him to do so.

    He’s at the stage where he needs to get a couple 6s or 7s under his belt and just fail a few times and this will embolden him or at least make him less scared.

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  135. “Oh my god, that was awesome! You’re like Neo from the Matrix!”

    Any negative comment will come across as butthurt. Only thing to do at this point is joke it off and keep going.

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  136. Guy’s next response with a smirk: “What? You have some food stuck on your lip and I was hungry. Come on, cook me some real food upstairs. You can cook, can’t you?”

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  137. Honestly, if a girl did that to me I would simply walk away and cut my losses. There’s just so many more out there. I’ve always known by the end of a date if a girl was into me or not.

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  138. She actually doesn’t look like she’s disgusted by his move, more playful. I personally would have pulled her in, stared at her for a second looking like I was going to kiss her, then pushed her back with a big…..”Nah”

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  139. Novella Game
    I stumbled across this by accident but novella game works a treat
    Write a novella or short story – make it at least 6 pages even though most modern girls have goldfish spans.
    Have at least one violent scene and one raucous sex scene in the story. I wrote about some drug gang and the sex scene had vaginal and then anal as she was obsessed with the guy and “wanted to really feel his manhood…wanted to be owned by him”.

    Then in this kike run western world where women have few real jobs, find a babe who wants to be an actress or work in the creative bullshit world. Should not be too hard.
    Tell her you wanted to be a writer and you wrote a book. They always seem impressed by this.
    Be a bit coy about the whole thing but they will demand to read it.
    Again be coy and reluctantly give her a copy to read but express doubts that you hope she does not see you as some psycho.

    She will be turned on by it and will admire and be surprised by your dark side…it will open up her legs once you can close the deal

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  140. If by the end of the date she’s avoiding kissing you, it’s not a salvagable situation. A 2-4 hour bad date cannot be swept under the rug by 30 seconds of alpha.

    Most things like flakiness, last minute resistance or in this case a girl who refuses to kiss you at the end of the date are a result of a bad lead up.

    The reason alpha males get women into bed so quickly is they are aggressive/sexual from the start and do not let up.

    You can talk about negging, projecting indifference or throwing a game line or two, but all that will do at this point is give off incongruence. Who is this guy?

    All that’s left is to do your best is not take it personally, realize women are a dime a dozen and walk away with your manhood in tact.

    [CH: i can’t argue with this. 9 out of 10 times a blatant kiss rejection at the end of a date means the girl is unsalvageable. and last minute game (LMG) can backfire if it comes off really incongruent with how the man was acting all night. but if the kiss rejection isn’t stone cold revulsion there is a chance to make something positive out of it.]

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    • The luggage indicates that this was not any kind of traditional date.

      Guys walk gals to the door — not vice versa.

      The implication is that he’s toting her stuff — and should he walk off — she’ll be chasing him something fierce. The vag shield must surely belong to her, I’d say.

      The smirk indicates that she’s actually in a playful mood. He must escalate.

      I also strongly suspect that she knows that she’s on video… for obviously, there is a third party videoing the event.

      A PDA may be way too much for her, whereas in private, things could well unfold.

      A smirky denial is not a denial… as a rule.

      It’s usually a signal for pimp hand treatment.

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  141. “Excellent dodge work! But your training is not complete, Grasshopper. Meet me tomorrow at 8:00 to learn the true power of the force.”

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  142. The verbal slap down you did on your girl..

    If you are blue pill – you will feel bad about it afterwards. It will eat you up inside and you will say ‘I went too far…she may even dump me’. Then you go home and apologize to her (you family may even take her side).
    She will still be disgusted at you and this disgust you put down to your bad behavior.
    Red pill – ‘bitch was getting out of hand and was looking for a slap down’ and if you slap her down good, when you go home she will be happy and will cook for you.

    Women will arouse their men in many ways as they basically want to be fucked hard. That’s feminine nature to arouse the male and see a (violent) response.
    Liberal Trolls are similar when they go onto rival websites and troll in a certain way in seeking an angry response. Like TSW on here.
    Liberalism is the feminine politic.

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  143. Rape white sharia style. White men *are* owed white women’s sexuality.

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  144. on September 20, 2017 at 8:45 am Wrong Side Luciano

    swear to god

    there are some men that need their chin scraped every fucking day

    like these bashful boys critiquing without offering up anything

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  145. So it’s true about hookers..

    [CH: haha nice]

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  146. on September 20, 2017 at 8:59 am DeplorableNationalConservative

    1. Put down those stupid bags.
    2. Walk away.
    3. Go buy better clothes, and throw away the clothes he is wearing now. Get a better haircut.
    4. Get a nice cold drink.
    5. Meet a different girl.

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  147. on September 20, 2017 at 9:00 am Keyboard Warrior

    What’s the context though? We only see one gif and not what happened before.

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  148. With all that luggage, this doesn’t look like a date.

    I’ve found that saying, “Gimme a kiss” and offering my cheek to her results in a kiss. There’s nothing sexual about a kiss on the cheek, but you’ve given her a command and she’s obeyed. If this isn’t a date, there’s nothing wrong with setting the tone for the future. It’s also slighty submissive, as rather than you chasing her lips, you’ve made her chase you and given her nothing but a cheek in return.

    Never underestimate the value of not-chasing her. She’ll be the one calling back.

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    • This does work. Don’t even say the words, just tap your cheek and lean in about an inch, and you will get a tiptoe kiss. If you must speak say something light, like “gimme one” or “right here”, as the old Black ladies say, “gimme some sugar.” In the scenario in this post, it may work. “OK, have it your way. Gimme one” and present the cheek. Non-threatening, but it is a command and obedience and there is some kino to it. Possible to salvage later, maybe. Maybe …

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  149. on September 20, 2017 at 9:22 am Samuel T Russell

    A lot depends on what has led to this point, but a couple observations:

    –Those are his bags, almost certainly. The one on his shoulder is gray with reddish leather straps. The lighting makes it look off, but its a fine bag. He has arrived from some trip (or is visiting) and she met him at the airport.

    –That is his apartment (or he will be staying there). The positioning of her stance and the fact that he is the one with the keys (he starts rummaging in the bag after the denial), suggests that she is waiting for him to open the door.

    –She never moves her feet. This more than anything indicates that this situation is not hopeless. She hasn’t decided yet and she is teasing him, but she hasn’t shut the door permanently. Also, she met him at the airport dressed like that. Which means there is some history (this isn’t a first date) and she is interested.

    To all those recommending some biting humor or snark, that’s almost impossible to do without just coming off butthurt. If you want to go with a mean parting remark to stoke your own ego, that’s your prerogative. But accept that its a parting remark. That isn’t game. That’s just insulting people to feel better about yourself.

    A couple courses of action, depending on your style:

    –The only type of humor that could work here is self deprecating. Combine here with feigned confusion, like you’re trying to figure out what just happened. Something like: “Did I forget to comb my hair?” Better if your hair is so short that you obviously don’t comb it. The problem with this is that that approach was really bad. She saw it was really bad. If you crack a joke, you can’t re-escalate. You get her to laugh and you can continue the interaction later.

    –The other option is to drop the bags and make intense contemplative eye contact for a little too long. If she either breaks eye contact in a submissive manner or maintains seductive eye contact, you can proceed. If she’s not game, she’ll take a step back. Then you say in a low steady voice, “You’re right. I did that badly. Let’s try again.” Take a step forward into her space and put a hand on her neck/cheek, waist, or both. Then go for the kiss again slowly.

    The first option is actually pretty safe. But if we assume that’s his bags and apartment, she’s not coming up and the best you did is save some face for the next interaction. The second option has quite a bit of risk, but good confident delivery might go somewhere. Even if she backs away, you probably haven’t actually harmed anything worse than the first awkward attempt.

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  150. Scorched Earth Game: “I always heard prostitutes don’t kiss – now I have confirmation. So does this mean you only like getting fucked from behind?”

    Non-Scorched Earth: 2 high fives and then just get the fuck out of there fast.

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  151. Its easy to imagine what you would say and do, but knowing myself I would probably take it as joke and a challenge, with a grin on my face saying “oh really now!?” I would then drop my bag, playfully grab her around both her arms and playfully start a game of kiss stealing. I would probably then playfully smother both her cheeks with a kiss, even her neck, not yet her mouth, making some kind of “muahh” noice. Her receptive would probably open up since she would be smiling, and since we are face to face, a kiss in the mouth would then be easier to follow.

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  152. on September 20, 2017 at 9:43 am Static Observer

    I don’t think its as bad as it looks. Her body language is tellingly cute towards him. Facing him. Smiling. He’s not facing her. He doesn’t seem to care about the kiss all that much. He might be drunk and she is playing coy. I think they might be together already, and if that’s the case, he should continue opening the door, say something like: “Ok, so you are taking the luggage in then.” and drop a bag or two as he finishes opening the door … or “So, it’s going to be aggressive tonight.” And continue with the mission of getting into the building being generally aloof about the missed kiss.

    But I might be reading it wrong.

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  153. it’s all about the abundance mentality:

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  154. Unless your a “migrant” that is.

    – BLOWING THE WHISTLE: France may make wolf-whistling and asking women for their phone number a CRIMINAL offence –

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4506566/france-wolf-whistling-chatting-up-telephone-number-sexism/

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  155. The look on her face says there’s some playful rapport there. I’d go for a favorite move of mine, I’d smack that bag out of her hand and give her a huge, genuine grin (I love doing it). Invariably I’d get one of two versions of the O face. Angry or sparkling eyes. Either way when she’s reaching for it I put my bag down and when she’s standing back up I go for it again with a hand around the back of her neck. Then we got our answer.

    Possible foul ups:
    She has a death grip on the purse – BTFO, compliment on her manly grip strength, ask if she can palm a basketball too and leave.
    She DEMANDS I pick it up. I say nope while laughing and leaving. “see ya later nerd.” – Better chance of another chance than leaving it how it was.

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  156. This is a classic shit-test and you need to win it by putting her in her place.

    This guy needs to put one bag down and reach for the door with his right hand. When she goes to walk through the door, pretend to fumble it and let it hit her…you want it to hit her solid, but not knock her down or anything. If she glares at you, you’ve got a sly, slightly ambiguous, ZFG grin on your face. If she doesn’t glare at you, offer to help and there’s your intro to kino.

    Either way, you’ve reframed. If she’s a bitter-bitch, she knows you just called her on it and aren’t afraid to get a little physical. She will either back off the bitch routine and you’ll be in. Or she’ll get pissy and you’ll leave with dignity intact.

    If she’s toying with you, you’ve just reframed and given yourself an intro into a cold compress and some time showing her your bruise treatment regimen.

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  157. Done quickly.
    Drop the main bag.
    Plant left leg slightly behind playful wench. (Hers are together, she’s not moving)
    Arm behind her back. Hand on right hip.
    Hone in on the lips. Cheek will work.
    “Moving target huh”. “Strawberries?”.
    “Let’s try Baily’s”.
    Talk about the weather.

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  158. I hand her my number carelessly written on the back of an atm receipt which shows mad currency in my account. You know, I just happened to have that thing as scrap paper in my pocket, then I flex my biceps while turning to my ferrari as I say something cool like Bruce Willis, “let’s kiss air again”. And then call 3 weeks later…no … text a birthday cat emoji 3 months later.

    boom. instany lay

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  159. “The paralympic event in Mexico City has been cancelled. Strange as you’d think they would now have more participants”.

    “You’re such a jerk”…two hours later and she was sucking the jerk off

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  160. Novella Game
    I stumbled across this by accident but novella game works a treat
    Write a novella or short story – make it at least 6 pages even though most modern girls have goldfish spans.
    Have at least one violent scene and one raucous sex scene in the story. I wrote about some drug gang and the sex scene had ‘v’ and then ‘a’ as she was obsessed with the guy and “wanted to really feel his manhood…wanted to be owned by him”.

    Then in this kike run western world where women have few real jobs, find a babe who wants to be an actress or work in the creative bullshit world. Should not be too hard.
    Tell her you wanted to be a writer and you wrote a book. They always seem impressed by this.
    Be a bit coy about the whole thing but they will demand to read it.
    Again be coy and reluctantly give her a copy to read but express doubts that you hope she does not see you as some psycho.

    She will be turned on by it and will admire and be surprised by your dark side…it will open up her legs once you can close the deal

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    • A White woman, travelling alone, in foreign (non-White) areas. Yeah, that’s not a recipe for destruction. Suicide by stupidity.

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  161. *confused look*

    “Did you just try to resist me? How dare you!”

    Then, you assume a feet apart, alpha stance, and order her over to you with a smirk and a beckoning hand to give you a kiss

    Seriously tho, if this is really a first date gone wrong, anything alpha he does or says will be an improvment

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  162. If she wanted to kiss him, it wouldn’t have mattered where he leaned in, how far, etc.

    A girl decides in the first 5 minutes these things. If the attraction is there, there isn’t a lot a guy can do to mess it up because she’ll make excuses for it, justify it, ignore it, etc.

    I just don’t get girls who even go out with someone they don’t find worthy. Why waste the time?

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  163. I’m thinking something playful and detached works best more than the butt-hurt insults. Strong body language and attitude probably issue a greater impact than the actual words, but words can also show a lot of subtleties that us betas just don’t see. It takes a master of game like CH to come up with a Rubik’s Cube of a problem like this.

    Learning is fun here.

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  164. I would have placed 2 fingers directly between her petit little titties and proceeded to release them pulling her top down in the cold night air, thank her and walk away…

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  165. there is no salvaging this. she’s guarding her pussy with her purse, he’s lugging her luggage, probably from the airport. best gay friend, always available. he’ll smell the pussy, but he’ll never touch the pussy. don’t be that guy

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  166. I was wondering about the luggage too. I my days as lower beta drone I had a girl who crushed on my that I fucked up, I had her pick me up from airport and somehow screwed the deal.

    How to handle this hottie with her blonde hair and tight body (she is nice)?

    CH makes a good point with the elevator. If that’s her luggage, he’s picking her up from airport or whatever, then she’s trapped bc he’s holding her luggage. same as elevator game. Need to unload that shit. Slowly hand her the pieces and then when she’s got her gear, point to your cheeck and moon for some sugar? Geez, what a situation.

    If it’s the dude’s luggage then the bish picked him up, right? She likes him and she’s farting around. Do compliance, “here take the heavy bag and help me get this upstairs…” and then throw her the small bag. Get her to help you up to your place and then try to reengage with better escalation.

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    • the luggage is hers. chicks don’t pick “best gay friends” from the airport.

      she’s nearer to the elevator. he’s trying to kiss her while handing her the bag.

      again, no salvaging this one, not at this point. he’s deep in the friend zone. and he rushed to pick her up.

      maybe, if: “hey, my plane just landed”. “sorry babe, won’t come, very busy, karaoke night at betafag’s. get a taxy and hurry over, we’ll sing ‘if you really wanna hurt me'”.

      but that parallel reality unfolds way before the elevator luggage scene.

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  167. You do nothing. Wtf u want to do? You accept rejection and move on.

    Anyway my cousin who is a slayer once told me: if you are unsure, whip your cock out, works 2 times out of 3

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  168. both arms holding the purse that’s covering her grrrlparts: big sign she’s not into him :/

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  169. That poor dude. Probably carrying her bags;)

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  170. Easy, mirror her, flip the script, and act like she was trying to kiss you, followed by a sly grin. Cats and women want what they can’t have.

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    • i was thinking something similar. saying something as simple as..whoah, slow down, need to get these bags settled, you can kiss me later when i’m done

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  171. on September 20, 2017 at 1:21 pm Fredrik Johnsen

    This is the hardest test of your game I have seen here so far..I think for me it boils down to these two options::

    1. Laugh out loud, not in a hurt kindof way, but more in a “I cant believe Im dating such a retarded girl kindof way” then I would turn around slowly and say, See you later then and leave her there.

    Aftermath will include no contact. If she should try making contact I would wait minimum 5 days before answering. At this point my energy and attention would be 100% on other women. If never heard from her again I would also bever give contact.

    2. Grab her by the pussy. You already lost so might as well go out with a BAM and save some face, At this point one has nothing more to lose. Most likely she would enjoy it also. Then grin smugly if she tells you off.

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  172. Lame joke here but:

    This clip is like the alt-right (guy) and normies (girl) leading up to and resulting from Charlottesville.

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  173. Watch carefully.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/25/us/denver-cheerleaders-forced-into-splits-trnd/index.html

    This is jealous niggers torturing a white girl unfortunate enough to have to attend a. Offer school.

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    • This country has a nigger problem.

      #theageoftruthspeech

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    • Damn groids. This, too, shall be remembered.

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    • How can an entire race have no value.

      The hilarious thing is, of all slogans, black activists have to recite “Black Lives Matter”. Not “make our community safe” or “stop the violence”. They have to try to convince us that their entire race is worth almost anything at all. Good luck, history doesn’t like and neither does experience.

      Whites in the old south knew that lynching works because it targets the group. They realized nigs don’t have any innate sense of justice or deferred gratification, but they will behave somewhat if you send a message.

      They’ll be needing a lot of messages pretty soon if this shit keeps up.

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    • Thank her (most likely) White liberal parents for inviting all these ‘groids to settle in once-was-lily-White Denver. Give away free sh*t, and the blacks will magically appear, like flies to a pile of shit.

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  174. It’s so rare to have the feeling of outright rejection like that. It’s like some kind of alien fuel source if you just walk away. For some people, I can see that actually being worth more than any hail mary. Those people being those who wouldn’t make it about the girl, but those who could see it as a reflection of the world not mirroring what they know of themselves inside.

    I think I would lean into failing if I was going to hail mary. Dramatize it with an amused mastery.

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  175. lots of newfags here forcing the issue.

    1. I stand wide-eyed with an exaggerated look of amused disbelief on my face.

    2. I get the door for her and as I’m holding it I exclaim “Well I guess that means goodnight.”

    3. As she walks through the door I smack her on the ass, hard. She will turn in disbelief/anger. Cockiest shitlord “I win” grin possible. Turn and make my exit, looking down at phone perhaps to text another hb. Never look back.

    the newfags will say to force a kiss on her or play a bunch of headgames or be overly witty, close off the physical space, etc.

    smacking her ass is way more intimate than getting a goodnight peck. you’ve just blown her barriers the fuck out and taken way more than what you initially offered to settle for. this communicates you don’t listen to her shit tests nor do you actually give a fuck about successfully kissing her, nor will you put in a bunch of effort to do so.

    it’s a high status as fuck move. but if you’re not supremely confident in yourself and somewhat of a natural cad you will likely fuck it up in the execution. proceed with caution.

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  176. What…”guy in car filming the encounter” doesn’t know about us yet?

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  177. Step back (drop the luggage etc. whatever) and, if there was any personality or character trait of hers that attracted you to her in the first place or that you’ve genuinely come to admire, tell her. Like, ‘You know, you really impressed me when you … It made me think, now that’s the kinda girl –that’s a great girl.’ Or something like that.

    Then you’ll see what you are dealing with.

    I mean it’s not like the odds are good you’ll ever see this girl again. You might as well give her the compliment –if it’s sincere. Nuke her from orbit.

    Lotsa people will feel almost compelled to return the compliment. If she says some obvious bullshit, let it go. Say goodbye. Bolt. If she says something real and true -this reframing the entire situation to one of your positive attributes or accomplishments or whatever, then pause and –and this is the key part, we’re going movie fantasy land on purpose with purpose here, give her the Han Solo goodbye: “I know.”

    Don’t look back.

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  178. Say: “you’re right, would find out…see ya” (best if that person named is equally sexy)

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  179. She’s got a great butt. I love the ideas about giving her a much needed swat.

    IMO self-deprecating Game is a non-starter here because she’s already insulted you immensely and that just steps into her frame that you’re a loser who can be insulted to your face. This isn’t the time to turn on your inner frat boy, its time to channel your inner Frank Sinatra or Don Draper.

    She’s playing…..she’s like a cat dragging its tail across your hand when you try to pet it being coy. Close the distance immediately for Pete’s sake. Get your hands on her…..back of her neck (not the throat you lunatics), back of her head, or her waist. Back of the head is great because it puts a stop to her little dance. Other hand on the small of her back.

    Look her in the eyes and say “You’ve got a beautiful neck….” glancing down at her lips conspicuously before you’ve finished saying that. Then move in the for kiss. If she tenses and pulls back, you’ve blown it and disengage with your dignity. Don’t go all Buzz Lightyear doing a stupid mating dance.

    If she kisses you, smoothly tangle her hair in your fingers and move the other hand to her ass after a few seconds (you’re not desperate) and if it continues slip your thumb into the waistband of her pans and toy with the hem of her panties.

    If you’ve made it this far, you’ve got the lay.

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  180. Just put the bags down, gently, sort of playfully grab her (I would do arm around the back) pull in and say “your aim’s not so good…” before planting one.

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  181. Grab her hand and look seductively into her eyes. Then speak low and spit a few lines. Pull her a little close, plah with her hair, grab her neck from behind, and then kiss her.

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  182. Close in on her, tickle her ribs then go for it if it works

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  183. Parry and reframe:
    Look into her eyes, lock in the stare, with your right hand, grab her left wrist, bring the back of her hand to your lips, still maintaining eye contact, with just the most gentile touch of your lips to the top of her hand, kiss the top of her hand, still maintaining eye contact, tell her that you had a wonderful evening (do not say ‘night’, evening). Pause, still looking into her eyes. Maintain the Pause for longer than necessary, maintain the Pause—–it’s her move now. If, at this point, you have won her confidence in you, she will kiss you back.

    (and yes, DROP those freeking bags!)

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  184. Seems to me he had a split second decision to act after the second lame attempt… grab her low around the waist, pull her into you, smirk, eye fuck her hard and slowly, slowly move your face closer to hers as if you’re going for the kiss.

    Then don’t. Abruptly step back with one of two responses: 1) a furrowed brow and puzzled look. 2) another smirk and a simple “we’ll see”.

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  185. is it me or are half the responses in the comments terrible?

    [CH: i like this comment thread. it’s rollicking fun. don’t take all of the comments seriously. the leg sweep and cunt punch recs are clearly not sincere responses.]

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  186. It might be fun to walk away, holding the bags, not saying anything…”where are you going?”…”hey, give me back my bags”…you say, “I’m gonna pee on them” and you pretend to unzip your pants”…she will chase…you grab the bags and run like you’re holding up your pants…she chases more…you let her almost catch up…then you create a little distance…she walks away…then you walk to her and take her by the shoulder in a bro hold…she hits you…you turn her to face you and then game is on…nonverbally tease her about kissing…move into her grill…be hard to kiss…test for compliance, etc.

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    • Astonishingly, I like this one.

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    • BINGO.

      Those just HAVE to be her’s.

      This is NOT a date, and she didn’t pick him up at the airport.

      AND.

      She’s fully aware that someone is videoing her.

      Probably another guy.

      Being video’d so obviously, changes the ‘chemistry’ of this interaction.

      She’s playing to her audience.

      Hence, the sass.

      That smirk is quite the ‘tell.’

      Yes, she’s an attention whore.

      But, that comes with XX genes.

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  187. Here is how you deal with a blown kiss.

    ROLL THE FUCK PAST IT LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED AND TRY AGAIN.

    ::Tries for kiss::

    ::woman flops around like a fish::

    Man: “It’s cool if you’re not ready” (Put the onus on her that she is the slow, inexperienced one.)

    ::Guy tries another kiss in five minutes.::

    *** SUPER BONUS TIP ****

    Want to get into a girl’s apartment when things are stalling at the end?

    Man: “Hey, can I use your bathroom? That ten shots of makers mark went right through me.”

    Woman: “I don’t know…”

    Man: “You’re going to make me go in the alley?? If I get AIDS from some homeless dude it’m coming after you! (Said jokingly)
    Com’on, I’ll be quick. I promise I’ll only pee on your seat a little… (optional, also said jokingly.)

    So there ya go, if you get a girl that is non-compliant. Kiss, number, fuck, etc…
    Roll back your game and build up again, forgot you ever failed and keep coming back to it.

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  188. Smile, then look at your phone, and go “Yes! she’s not pregnant!…that was a close one!” And dance merrily away jumping with joy.

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  189. The “grab her by the throat and assert dominance” approach is way out of place here. This guys at the end of an entire evening of weak body language and poor (or nonexistent) kino. A throat grab would be a jarring sudden shift. She wouldn’t become submissive, she’d become scared.

    My instinct would be to follow up her second bob-and-weave with a very light playful slap to the cheek. Then ignore whatever she says about it and push the conversation forward. Keep a wry smile and some light laughter the whole time, mirroring the expression she had while she was dodging the kiss.

    The next step is to get one of her hands and escalate from there towards another kiss attempt 2 or 3 minutes later. And obviously set the bag down asap.

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  190. on September 21, 2017 at 10:23 am RedPillOfHergest

    Look, I’m old fashioned. There’s no way you’re gonna talk me out of my clothes unless you take it slow. I require a little smoochin’, a little hand holdin’…

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  191. “eww… cold fish, eh? do you have ugly feet, too?”

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  192. “ok then no kissing. Weird but I can dig it. Tell me we can at least put on some Marvin Gaye first.”

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  193. Get her to hold the bags with ‘Excuse me , while I kiss the sky’ and proceed!

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  194. Wanna smoke? (Makes smoking gesture) if yes, proceed. If no, give sacrcastic agree and amplify with option to bounce.

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  195. Who gives a fuck if a woman who is attracted to you dodges a kiss close attempt? You just act unreactively and try again later. If she is attracted to you, then sooner or later her defense will break down. Act as if it’s normal for her to resist a bit. On the other hand, if she had been acting cold during the date, then you shouldn’t be standing there in the first place. You should have left in the middle of the date and approached another woman in front of her.

    And why is he even attempting a kiss close at her door? This means that he probably walked her home without expecting to get into her apartment. Beta. Or he tried to get in and then, after she refused, attempted a kiss close. Needy.

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  196. Or, he could shapeshift into this guy:

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  197. Smile playfully. Slowly move closer and grab her lightly at the waist. Give her a stop playin around look for 2 seconds. If it feels right kiss her.

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  198. “Oh, I see…” (hand her a breath mint), “Now you”re good.”
    Then pull her in right and give it another go.

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  199. on September 22, 2017 at 10:28 am Amanjaw Marcuntte

    This is no date; he’s carrying both of their bags. Looks like a couple returning home after a particularly tingle-killing outing.

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  200. Wtf is wrong with you people. Completely misreading the situation….concerned with your own ego….asinine suggestions.
    Bunch of Fkg kindergarteners talking about things they don’t understand.

    CH most of these people need some rudimentary education about game.

    She is testing him. Make a witty quip and tease her, show dominance.
    Ugh

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  201. Me- Glad you did that. Want gum?

    Her- Does my breath smell bad?

    Me- Its ok, when we get to your place I’ll wait for you to brush your teeth.

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  202. This one is really simple. Might as well go for the jugular after that bullshit.

    I figured you needed a kiss to make you feel better because your tits are so small. It’s ok, I’m going to arrange some implants for you.

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  203. I guess grab-her-by-the-pussy would be a fail.

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  204. I don’t read this as a first kiss situation.

    To me it looks like a couple that’s dating. He’s a beta back from travel. They’ve had a spat and he’s trying to make good with giving her a lean in sweet kissy on the lips and she is shit t testing him hard, and SHE is the one in control.

    His body language shows he is dejected by the rebuff.

    I would suggest asshole game. Once they get inside the building and get on the elevator, he should fake like he got a phone call, tell her he left a bag outside and for her to go and grab it while he waits for her. Then he should ditch her and take the elevator back up by himself.

    If she just walks away, so be it. If she gets upset and wants back in the apartment, tell her no way until she flashes a titty in the hallway while you look through the peephole.

    Don’t let a girl be in control. Is she is momentarily, risk all to regain control.

    [CH: FYI i didn’t say this particular video was an outtake of a first date, but rather that what the video showed — an end of night kiss rejection — is a pretty common first date fail for betas. btw, the scenario you present (likely) of a post-spat beta trying too hard to kiss make-up with his gf is itself good material for a test of your game post.]

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  205. Tough one; most thing’s I can come up with would before he actually made for the kiss, step in closer or establish kino then go for it.

    Can’t quite call her behavior, dodges the kisses and blocks off her groin but doesn’t step back or away and continues to interact with and smile at the guy.

    Isn’t afraid of him or dislike him, just doesn’t respect him.

    Possibly married? Joke we can’t hear? Why is it being filmed?

    Why is he standing so awkwardly and robotic?

    Not totally sure how to salvage this one; maybe on a later date.

    Even change in how you go for personality, even if done well might actually be off-putting just for being so 360 at the last moment.

    I guess if I didn’t think the odds were that good for another date I would go with the butt slap as she walks in as recommended by others.

    Otherwise a joke of some kind would do it.

    [CH: the scene in this video is probably not a first date (it looks like he’s either back from a business trip or vacay having gone with or without her, or she’s back and he’s helping her with her bags), but the kiss rejection is definitely a common first date land mine for inexperienced men. it’s being filmed surreptitiously by a guy sitting in his car, filming it in his rearview mirror (so the camera is hidden from plain sight). she is smiling after the double cheek bob and weave so i don’t think this particular rejection is unsalvageable.]

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  206. Thinking about it; if those are her bags and she is aware they are being filmed.

    He should have waited a little longer till they got all the way inside and to her apartment.

    Since he’s still carrying them, clearly they have a little farther to go and not being on video might have made her more open and comfortable for the attempt.

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    • One mistake I can think of here; is that he did the bit where you stop and let them come to you but he did it from close to half a foot away.

      Would have been better to maybe do it around 2-3 inches, maybe less.

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  207. Just pull her close and kiss her passionately.

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  208. God I’ve been here before and it was embarrassing.

    Knowing what I know now I would:

    – Turn to open the door and looking away from her talk to myself saying ‘guess I’m always the more romantic person on dates’ (grinning, shaking me head)

    – Putting her in the situation where she thinks she’s the cold hearted bitch in the hopes that she’ll realise she’s actually is one and work harder to be more romantic later on.

    But I gotta say the best thing to do is go out more and get with more women so you forget about her and she’ll wonder where all the attention has gone (and if she doesn’t then fine you move on quick, plenty of women about).

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  209. Upon witnessing her situational double-dodge flexibility, and noticing she hasn’t walked off, but still coldly holding the book (or iPhag) in front of her vag, continue hard eye contact and, with a confident smirk, interestedly say,

    “Do that again.”

    If she attempts, set the bags down, slightly away from the door (don’t throw them or in any way make a big deal out of the bags). Observe to see if her arms have opened up. If they have, close the gap by stepping towards her. Do all of this very quickly, before she finishes her repeated dodge moves. Take the hand still holding the book/iPhag, remove and toss it over on top of the bags you just set down. Take your other hand and pull her in towards you, never having let up on the eye contact. If she lets all of this happen, you have a green light. If you feel the need to say anything from this point, say,

    “That’s better.”

    Then kiss.

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  210. There’s not much you can do about a cheeky cheek like that. Best you can do here – and there’s no shame in doing it – is smile, hold frame, and be as nonchalant as you can…I believe the phrase is “outcome independence”. This chick’s been here a thousand times before… but if you can act like you don’t give a fuck, then you’ll have responded a lot better than the thousand other jerk offs before. If you *actually* don’t give a fuck, then you’d probably be upstairs already. One of game’s little paradoxes.

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  211. on September 25, 2017 at 6:37 pm White Sharia Legislator

    I would laugh to myself at the young lady for showing good manners. If it twas me… The cutie would have sucked my cock off, twice, in the car already. She could not help herself and I would not stop her. Win/win.

    CLEARLY she did not want to get my remaining juices – present on her face and lips- onto me. While I would extend the courtesy of a good night peck on her cheek, she has class and DOES NOT want me to get befouled. Good girl.

    Also, why the fuck is the guy holding so many bags? Odd.

    In the event that there was no sexual exchange before hand and she pulled that move:

    “I get it. You don’t have a breathmint and now you are tying to bob and weave like some prize fighter… Scare I won’t like you due to stink mouth?”

    I would look her right in the eye, firmly and lovingly but harsh too, and tell her to hold still. I would make sure she was still and move closer.

    ” So you promise me you won’t be so forgetful here on out? I might forgive your poor planning,.. just this once…”

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  212. I’d do a gay air kiss on both cheeks.

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  213. You say, “Wow…some sort of test there? Pull out your phone, start checking texts/e-mails. Wait until elevator gets to her floor, make brief eye contact, say “hey-thanks for the night…” Go back to your phone. If she says anything, she’s back in. if not–no biggie.

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  214. I would have reached out and started rubbing her pussy while she was doing the lean back/ head turning thing

    Video is kind of shit but it looks like she is trying to be cute rather then out right reject him.

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  215. Slow clap while saying, “Stevie Wonder, right? Well-played.”

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  216. His mistake was not sliding his left hand around her waist or her neck and pulling her TO him. Never go to the girl.

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  217. I lean in for a Hail Mary kiss attempt at the end of the night. As she begins to comically lean back and shake her head, I pull back slightly but still leaned in, squint my eyes, cup her elbow gently saying “Wait, stop moving for a second.” Pull back, pause for a second while searching her hairline and say “Is that a grey hair?”

    Attempt to escalate again once she reacts (no matter positive or negative) by pulling her closer so our hips meet but torso is slightly back. Continue from there.

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  218. I agree with some commenters, too late to salvage. The only thing I’d think of would be, since he is making his way home or whatever;

    Order an Uber
    Keep talking (change subject, don’t even give a hint of defeat)
    Invite her to ride around the block with him “so you get less intimidated about making out in public.”
    Hang your garment bag between the driver and passenger seat to block out the driver and say “welcome to my limo babyyyy” with a grin. Tell the driver to bring out champagne no sooner than in five minutes. Lay your arm around her and lean in for the kiss a few moments after the car starts moving

    Don’t don’t don’t order anything but a cheapo Uber (but whatever you do don’t pool. Haha. World class if some sad dude turns up as a co-passenger.)

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  219. RAPE

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  220. Grab her head and forcefully kiss her then whisper in her ear: “cunt”

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  221. Kiss my right hand, look at it and say Never mind honey. I like you better anyway. Then walk off. If she says anything just laugh and keep walking.

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  222. Wait for communication from here. If none, send text the next day that says “We had lots of fun. You should have been there.”

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  223. This may work and get her interested because I don’t give a fuck. Or it may not. Either way, I don’t give a fuck.

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  224. “Well, I guess a BJ is out of the question”!

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