Measuring The Health Of Nationhood

Thought experiment: Knowing what we now know about how America is run, and feeling as we do now about where America is heading….if the Russians invaded our shores and stormed our cities and towns, would you be more apt to

a. fight them

b. stand idly by as they occupied your nation

c. actively aid and abet them?

I have a suspicion that 10-20% of Americans in 2018 would choose b or c on a truly anonymous survey, and by my calculus, those numbers indicate a severe decline in the health of our nationhood.

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From Observasaurus Rex,

I wouldn’t risk my smallest toe for a country that currently is calling me the root of all evils in the world while taxing me to death so I don’t reproduce so it can finally replace me with violent low IQ savages from places that aspire to the title of “shithole”.

Many more of us are on this wavelength. The tide changes slowly, but powerfully.





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  1. I’m afraid those numbers are much worse. Well over 20% of “Americans” are actively in favor of the illegal alien invasion caravan. And it appears the other 80% are standing by idly.

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    • All they would have to do is say “we hate white ppl” and it’d be 50% support.

      Then once they had full-spectrum control they could be like “haha lol jk”

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  2. Trick Question?

    The Russians ain’t Soviets anymore. They’re closer to the USA of the 50’s now, and the USA is some real gayriffic fag clown world now.

    At least they’re whyte.

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    • Russians are a worthless group. Italisn, irish, pols, germans, even Mexicans, etc have contributed, despite also being parasites. Russian immigrants however, are absolutely worthless. And the Russian Jews are of course Jews.

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      • Not quite sure what you mean by “parasites”; Germans and Irish and Italians carved out niches for themselves and pay into the economy.

        It’s not parasitical if you pay taxes and have jobs and are not on welfare.

        Illegals/Groids generally are on welfare and take/consume more then they contribute, if at all.

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      • on October 28, 2018 at 7:57 pm Reinald Vallejo

        Yeah but I like chess.

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      • Russians are a worthless group
        ———————————————————————-
        says a jew whose hatred of russians has no its equal in the kingdom of hate

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      • on October 29, 2018 at 8:57 am Hatemonger 1389

        @ cortesar

        seems like every american faggot and his gay dad hates Russia

        lol @ pathetic fags

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  3. Depends. (((Who))) are they shooting? What colors?

    After watching, if not helping, I’d gain their trust and slaughter them after they do our dirty work for us. I hate Russians. Worthless.

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  4. Depends on what the Russians are here for.

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  5. Tell you what, i was in the military for a long, long (lonnnnng) time and I’ve been studying Russian for the last year. This circus is about ready to go tits up.

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    • Regardless of why you’re doing it, learning Russian is one of the best things you can do. Definitely one of my proudest accomplishments.

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  6. That estimation is low. I’d guess more like 35-45%

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    • on October 28, 2018 at 10:42 pm whowantsgingersnaps

      I was thinking 80%. The left would cheer the Russians on as their ‘socialist saviors’, not understanding of course they’d be lined up against a wall and shot as soon the invaders got in a quick nap and meal.

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    • We would have had a lot of opportunist traitors in WWII as well. Americans by and large are disloyal opportunists and chase a buck far more than most European nations. U Boats used to be resupplied in the dark of night by Americans when they patrolled off of our coasts.

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      • What’s disloyal? Traveling across an ocean to shoot your cousins?

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      • Milch cows, buddy.

        Americans couldn’t even figure out where the U-boats were… they being secret. During the pre-Pearl Harbor period, U-boats weren’t even stationed near the US coast.

        The milch cows operated up near the Arctic circle, BTW. For obvious reasons, they had to stay away from all popular shipping lanes. Once the British got the German maritime codes, the milch cows were sunk, udders and rudders, both.

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  7. […] Measuring The Health Of Nationhood […]

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  8. An armed invasion (vice a non-shooting invasion like we’re seeing from the Lesser Americas) might call out the more patriotic people to join up.

    The selective service (i.e. men only) draft might be activated (no way they’re gonna draft brawds). They might even re-activate prior service members against their will if their reserve contract is expired.

    I sure as sh!t ain’t spilling blood for those in power; when they’re only too happy to see whyte men go to their deaths to protect shekels.

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  9. I love the white (cultured) russians, and hate the red ones. Russians have a pig mentality that you cannot fathom unless you have lived with them.

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    • on October 28, 2018 at 7:54 pm Reinald Vallejo

      Europeans in general are assholes.

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      • is that your mug reinald

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      • Europeans gave away their countries to the Muzzies, so basically, yeah. They are assholes.

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      • they did not give their land to muzzzies any more that Americansdid to all sort of invading hordes
        America is currently 61 per cent white
        I believe the worst case in Europe is France which still 80 or 75 at worst per cent white
        not to mention the (((stronghold))) which cannot be compared

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      • Perhaps it’s all disinformation about the Muzzies that’s coming out of Sweden and Germany and Spain and France?

        Or maybe those countries aren’t in Europe and I’ve looking at my atlas wrong.

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      • no these are not misinformation
        I am talking about numbers and percentages
        for instance spain is still 95+ per cent white/Spanish
        and Germany probably 85
        In short european countries probably have 20 years before it is too late (some of the most infested) while America, if something is not done. will sleep into 55 category by 2024
        at the time considering number of leftoids and even counting on plus side the electoral college will be to late
        Had presidential election been proportional it would have already been to late

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      • They have a government and bureaucracy that has sold them out. I heard yesterday that a German who was voting in the Hesse state elections overheard the poll employees being told to throw out any AfD ballots they came across.

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  10. “B” OR “C”? Hell, over 40% would do “C”, actively helping and cheering on replacement of genuine Americans, with the vast majority of the remainder frozen and watching passively. Or, were you referring only to white (or, actual) Americans? In that case, you might be accurate.

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  11. Putin is my dream politician, not afraid to not be a cuck.

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  12. on October 28, 2018 at 7:53 pm Reinald Vallejo

    C. Next question.

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  13. WOLVERINES. Wait, aren’t they white Christians? I’ve known a few Russians they ain’t exactly the same as Europeans but a hell of lot better than any race of muds.
    Sovereignty is sovereignty.
    I’ll go with Wolverine response, reluctantly, there are whole lot more people on earth deserving a bullet than Russians.

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  14. My country right or wrong. I’m suspicious of (((anyone))) who’d sell out his blood and soil — contaminated though they may be at any given time — in the name of a perceived higher ideal.

    Besides, this is not a war of conquering peoples, it is a fight against a pandemic. It won’t be won or lost on the battlefield. See the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares.

    Further, ask the blacks about what happens when another people wins your freedom for you. It doesn’t make a man free, it just sublimates the slavery into something more insidious, switching tyranny out for another tyranny.

    Finally, an invasion would unite us around a righteous purpose and true identity, separating the wheat from the chaff, eliminating the reason to ally ourselves with a liberating foreigner and against your own people.

    I know we call this a civil war, but it isn’t. It’s a slow-motion invasion of alien thinking. To defeat it requires a scalpel and it will take longer than a lifetime.

    [CH: my thought on this matter is simple (but not simplistic): if you begin to hate what your nation has become, you hesitate to defend it.]

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    • I’m with King. This is my nation. It doesn’t belong to the parasites that have infected it. It doesn’t belong to any foreign invader. It belonged to my ancestors, who passed it to me to defend, as I will also do the same with my posterity. There is too much of our fathers’ blood in the ground to lay down and give up.

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      • This is my country, and I have defended it, like my father and my uncles before me. But a nation? We’re dead in the water.

        It reminds me of the latter decades of the Ottoman Empire.

        It’s not the America of my birth and my ‘leaders’ are hell bent on replacing me. They take and take and take from me to give to people who have no skin in the game.

        I saw the question as a WHAT IF; an armed invasion is all but impossible. It’s more likely our leaders would roll over before any ‘invasion’ would occur. They’d co-sign an invasion and sell us all out to save their asses.

        I’d rather prefer to go out shooting. Better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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      • I’ll die on my feet before I’ll live on my knees.

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      • but you made OTHERS live on their knees/all fours?

        u don’t think what goes around comes around Massa Mosby, why not?

        U putridans speshul?

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    • on October 28, 2018 at 8:58 pm traitors first

      yeah we have enough problems without importing another group of commie invaders, I mean commiefornia is a bad enough of a problem without having the russians invading to so yeah I’d fight them tooth and nail

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    • Chesterton has some fine words on this in Heretics. He quotes his poem, “If England was what England seems, How quick we’d chuck ‘er – but she ain’t!” and notes “He admires England, but he does not love her; for we admire things with reasons, but love them without reasons.”
      Uncle A loved his people too no matter how mired in the poz of his time – still it it’s infancy – they seemed to be.

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  15. You left out part of the question. Assume Chinese infiltration. Would you ally yourself with Russia or China?

    [CH: i have no particular love for russians. WW2 POW stories are rife with russian soldier atrocities (in contrast, german soldiers were downright kind towards their POWs). but a successful chinese invasion would be a hell not even the russians could hope to match.]

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    • Chinese infiltration of America is well underway, most amusingly in Hollywood where they are going up against the, um, ethnic establishment there. The Chinese don’t give a flying fu manchu about being called anti-termite.

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    • Czarist Russia was an altogether different story than communist Russia. That is the baseline for Russian behavior. It isn’t a fair comparison. Soviet Russia was a Jewish fiefdom. Germans also deliberately neglected Soviet POWs because they weren’t signatories of the Geneva Convention. Guy Sajer talked of them being transported west in open flat cars and having to stack the dead to create some sort of shelter from the cold and wind. His book is a novel but the description is accurate. I believe the figure for Russians that died in captivity was about 3 million. Germans also imported large numbers of Russians and Ukrainians children to be slave labor and treated them as dogs.

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      • Yes but they had a “decent attitude towards these human animals.”

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      • on October 29, 2018 at 5:39 am Carlos Danger

        Oink, I spoke with a few of them and that is not universally the case. More than a few remained and were alive until the 90s. Germans can be massive dicks if they put their minds to it. They will step over three Ukrainians to help a nigger.

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      • You missed it: Stalin went out of his way to INSIST that the Red Army would violate all Geneva norms — and did so from the first.

        His speech went a long ways towards the ethos of the Eastern Front… total barbarism in modern times.

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  16. The Federal budget includes $583 BILLION in interest payments to a private ‘bank’ – that will not reveal who gets the money and what they do with it. That will make one think again. But what it comes down to his fighting for the U.S. Constitution.

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    • on October 29, 2018 at 5:41 am Carlos Danger

      That is only the beginning. The Central banks of the world are the foundation of our slavery wherever they are. They need to be audited and nationalized.

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    • It’s a matter of VERY public record that ALL Federal Reserve System profits are remitted back to the US Treasury. They are NOT remitted to the nominal owners of the bank. Those owners hold PREFERRED shares that pay 6% dividends… PERIOD.
      This entire scheme merely replicates the J.P.Morgan First National City Bank scheme.
      Plainly you are wholly ignorant of the System and its history. This is no place to cover what takes volumes to document.
      The actual ownership of the US Federal Reserve System belongs to the US Government — de facto. It is what the British term a QUANGO.
      It has the FORM of a private enterprise, while ENTIRELY functioning as as public trust… in theory. In practice, we see a fusion of financial interests. The US Government is permitted to spend LARGE while the bankers have off-loaded their liquidity risk to the nation-as-a-whole. So when things blow up, everything goes at the same time. No-one has a safe-space.

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  17. on October 28, 2018 at 8:10 pm kentuckyjerard

    I have no real problem with Russians? Should I?

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  18. I’m afraid nearly every possible iteration of an American Patriotism that would have the power to repel anything would have to be philosemitic. I think American ideals are philosemitic and that America, like Protestantism, was founded with philosemitism in mind. I can’t say the invasion wouldn’t also be philosemitic but I’d rather be killed by Jewish ideas (like Christ) than kill for them.

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    • and that America, like Protestantism, was founded with philosemitism in mind.

      HAHAHAHAHAHA!

      Martin Luther wasn’t Martin Luther King, bubeleh.

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      • on October 29, 2018 at 5:35 am Carlos Danger

        No but many of the follow on sects that emerged in Britain were philosemitic. Those were the sects that colonized America. There were very few Lutherans in the Colonies that were native English speakers. Lutherans are Germanic and Scandinavian mostly. The Dutch were Calvinists and the Wesleyans, Baptists, Presbyterians were philosemitic and Episcopals were at best neutral.

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      • No doubt… but I was only addressing the point of Protestantism being “founded with philosemitism in mind”.

        Luther is the one usually associated foremost with the founding… and some of his wrìtings would be described today as “rabid antisemtism”.

        As far as the rest of the players in re Protestantism, there’s a difference between being philosemitic in action (much of it by either happenstance or merely because there weren’t a lot of jews around to be of concern) versus a sect’s founding “having it in mind”.

        And the thought of a “New Jerusalem” had nothing to do with earthly jews or any future country of Israel.

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      • Like all lost gentiles, Luther was enchanted with the Jews. It was only after his error that he decided he hated them. The Jews used Luther like a two dollar whore. Not to say it wasn’t a failure of the Church that allowed the whole mess to begin with, but the founding seed of Protestantism was sown entirely under the yoke of Jewish influence.

        America was founded with the purpose of being a revolutionary state broken from a revolutionary state, therefore capable of at last completely destroying the remnants of logos and scattering white civilization to the four winds. It is fulfilling its destiny.

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      • Like all lost gentiles, Luther was enchanted with the Jews. It was only after his error that he decided he hated them. The Jews used Luther like a two dollar whore. Not to say it wasn’t a failure of the Church that allowed the whole mess to begin with, but the founding seed of Protestantism was sown entirely under the yoke of Jewish influence.

        Got any sources for THAT, Schlomo… besides oddball revisionist claptrap or rabbinical arcanery chicanery?

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      • You kidding me? Common knowledge. “Just gib us the Bible Luther, we’ll convert straightaways.”

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      • Common knowledge? To whom? The usual Cyberian fakirs?

        I’ve studied the Reformation in depth, bubeleh… don’t try to snow the snowman, Schlomo.

        Will no one rid the chateau of these meddlesome JIDF shills?

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  19. C., or welcoming the liberator, turns out badly. They tend to loot your stuff, cavort with your women, be slow to leave.

    [CH: to which i snark, how is this different than what we have now?]

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    • on October 28, 2018 at 8:52 pm posts only tweets

      I believe someone here (or perhaps gab) had posited what if it was Russia that was south of the border and they were the ones crossing over, would the shitlibs still welcome them in, call them refugees, give ’em free everything?

      Rocky IV is more seminal than we think.

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      • Yep. My comment on Russians, who are superior people, was disappeared. By WordPress, not CH.

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      • Free my comments on Russians.

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      • on October 29, 2018 at 5:58 am Carlos Danger

        I will not lie, I like Russians, White Russians, and Ukrainians a great deal. They are good people. I would trust them with my back more than most other nationalities. They fight like lions too. I have never met a German who said otherwise that faced them.

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      • I like the Russians and the Poles and to a certain extent, Romanians (ethnic Wallachians, rather).

        These Slavs only need proper leaders to show them the way. They’re brave and fearless in combat.

        Like CH said some time back, you take [whyte] allies where you can get them.

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  20. If it came down to my grandchildren speaking Russian versus Spanish or Arabic or, god forbid, Ebonics… I guess I’m going to have to pick Russian.

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  21. No Russian ever called me racist.

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  22. We’ve come down to identity politics, as everything must, eventually, descend (you may not be interested in identity politics, but identity politics is definitely interested in you!).

    In the context of this question: the choice is between hook-nosed middle-easterners with a hard-on for all sorts of degeneracy and their quisling minions… Or an overwhelmingly white, Christian-in-the-old-style nation that doesn’t fuck around with hostile alien influences.

    No contest, option C.

    Russians, at least the ones I know (there’s a community of them in my town), are lazy as hell, swear like sailors, and are alcoholics to a man, but if you avoid them when they’re behind a car wheel, they’re mostly harmless. And you’ve never seen a party if you haven’t seen one thrown by an old tovarisch. Good people.

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  23. The schemer in me says, D. Play the various sides off against each other while doing your best to establish an ethnostate, preferably with the support of both sides. Let the Rooskies and ZOG slug it out for the coasts while rallying the Heartland into a White Flyover Republic with a rifle behind every blade of grass to dissuade annexation.

    That would require a hell of a lot of unity and cooperation between Woke White Men to pull off, though. Lots of disillusioned military veterans to form the glue to hold it all together, due to their familiarity with organization and tactics, would be a must.

    Short of somebody managing that? Wavering between A and B.

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  24. on October 28, 2018 at 8:39 pm Ping Pong Association of America

    Thought experiment: Knowing what we now know about how America is run, and feeling as we do now about where America is heading….

    Well, knowing that:
    A. Thought criminals will eventually be rounded up, killed, tortured, made examples of, “reducated,” and at times “repurposed”…
    B. Some semblance of a trial or “assessment” of a given target will be loosely based on what they said, did, wrote online, thought out loud within range of a “digital assistant” spying device, appeared to have thought based on an algorithmic data assessment, what the individual or individuals making this decision feel like the target said, did, or thought and what said deciders had or did not have for breakfast on the day or days they make these decisions—except for when the aforementioned doesn’t happen and the decision is arbitrary…
    C. This blog is undoubtedly being monitored…

    … I’d have to say that if the Russians invaded I would… go get some KFC and watch The View!

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  25. Here’s the deal.

    America is under an occupation government now. I don’t mean the ZOG (though that’s certainly orthogonal to it) but a government of people who aren’t Americans, who don’t have the je ne sais quoi that makes them American.

    As an aside, being American is like being in a club. It’s not about race, heritage, or ideology; by definition it favors WASPy paleoconservatives who can trace their lineage to the colonists, although too many of those bat for the other team now. But you can tell, from a brief interaction or often from sight alone, who is and is not in the club. It’s just a gut feeling, a sixth sense.

    If you’re in the club then you get that sense of camaraderie, fraternity, the feeling that you aren’t alone here and someone has your six. If you aren’t in the club, you get left with a hollow mixture of intimidation, inadequacy, and hatred, which makes the actions by the non-members once they reach positions of power that much clearer. They want to eliminate everyone in the club and wear its skin as a suit while pretending they were (((born that way))).

    The point is, America the club exists separately from America the government. And when your people are suffering under an occupation government, you don’t get saved by someone else swooping in to replace the government on your behalf. That (((liberation))) shit is for third-world shitholes, and France. (Though I repeat myself.)

    The trick from this point forward is what America the club does to keep its clubhouse standing.

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    • on October 28, 2018 at 10:57 pm Ping Pong Association of America

      As an aside, being American is like being in a club. It’s not about race, heritage, or ideology;

      Everyone will be watching The View from their treehouses, bubelah, sowing little badges onto their BSA vests with Confederate flags and family crests while they tell stories about the plantation days. Plan for it but don’t get mishuga.

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    • @shark L

      Resident “alphabet soup” GE rejects such slanderous description of Massa.

      Only zhyds are in cahoots with each other and solidarity cooperate.

      U must be new around chere

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      • WTF is it with YOU people, oink? Tell a straight story or just STFU with your bullshit about kikes dancing to the tune of the WASPS.

        How often have I said the useful stooges of the Synathedral that are traitors to their own people are obviously much of the problem, and get the rope first?

        The neo-Sanhedrin couldn’t do shit on their own, were it not for the neo-Roman pols and muscle cooperation.

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  26. Russians, like Americans, have build interplanetary probes.
    To a lesser extent, so have some other countries, like Japan.
    So in each case, they cannot possibly all be stupid.
    Stupid people cannot build such.

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    • Russians are also more similar to Americans than other Europeans are. It comes from living in a large country. It was one of the first thing I noticed about them.

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      • It’s a truism of litcrit that the American novel – think Moby Dick or The Scarlet Letter or even Huck Finn – has more in common with say Dostoevsky than with Austen or Flaubert.

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      • I see Russians every day. At the park with their kids. Having good family time. I never see them smoking. They are always married, polite, and physically superior people. Dad is always at least 6’2” (if not 6’4”) and 215 pounds, with no use of steroids. Broad shoulders and thin, ideal natural strength. Like Ivan Drago without the extreme training. Just big strapping dudes. Mom is always top 0.5% beautiful. Often cartoonishly stunning by American standards. They are superior humans. Mom, dad, and kid all blonde and blue eyed.

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      • Publius, I agree with most of what you say, but come on. I don’t agree they are superior to the Anglo. And they do drink. A lot.

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  27. on October 29, 2018 at 12:53 am Observasaurus Rex

    I wouldn’t risk my smallest toe for a country that currently is calling me the root of all evils in the world while taxing me to death so I don’t reproduce so it can finally replace me with violent low IQ savages from places that aspire to the title of “shithole”.

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  28. on October 29, 2018 at 5:09 am Abyssus Invocat

    As former minion (16 years) there, I can confirm it. I can also confirm (because I was there) that there is a ruthless hardcore of counter-narrative warriors within that group who actively working to thwart their plots. Shiv lords and even a few shiv ladies who are quietly collecting documents and making notes. When the treason trials start, they will reveal themselves. Fear not. Though less numerous, they are orders of magnitude more ruthless.

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  29. If we were to be invaded, far better it be Russia than the caliphate or the Chi-coms.

    Russia is well to the right of the American left. And Putin annoys the shit out of our cuck white knights.

    Russia is expanding private property rights, not contracting them.
    Russia has a FLAT 15% income tax.
    Russia is expanding gun rights, and Putin has consulted with the NRA on this.
    Putin’s an Orthodox Christian.
    Putin is pro-traditional family values, and has enacted laws to buttress them, to the rage of Globohomo, Inc.
    And you know where Putin stands on immigration and race-mixing.

    No wonder the left now hate hate hates Russia, despite love love loving the Russia of the Brehznev era. And further no wonder why the YKW deplores Russia.

    Biggest downside – I’m not a vodka guy.

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  30. on October 29, 2018 at 8:38 am UndertheDRADIS

    Post the survey.

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  31. on October 29, 2018 at 9:56 am ChicoAndTheBear

    This is no idle question. Look back to the history of how rapidly the Islamic Arabs conquered the peoples of Byzantine North Africa & the Middle East and the Persian Empire. Those peoples must have been entirely sick of the imperial governments which ruled over them. It also looks like (the historical records are not the best) those peoples helped the Islamic Arabs attack their former imperial rulers in Byzantine.

    If you don’t identify with your government or your fellow citizens, why would you defend the existing order from an invader? Only if the invader is worse than the current occupier.

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  32. on October 29, 2018 at 4:22 pm Hitler is our pal

    B.
    I don’t consider Russians to be my enemies. My enemies are much closer to home.

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  33. Look at your local grocery store with its fleet of electric wheelchair carts piloted by slovenly hogs followed by filthy juvenile diabetics and mongrels fed with EBT cards you paid for. You gonna send your son to fight for that?

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