Gab Update

Gab is still down. Despotic shitlibs rejoice over the crushing of another platform for political dissidents.

Maybe they shouldn’t rejoice too much. From Z-Man,

From what I understand, Gab will be down until the weekend. They expect to be up by Friday, or thereabouts. They have a host and they are transferring their domain. These things don’t happen overnight.

This is probably a good thing for a number of reasons. The most obvious being that the media has been unable to mine the site for material. You just know that lunatics like Patrick Little were salivating at the opportunity to get attention for their crazy rants. Now any mention of Gab leads the curious to a page explaining that the tech oligarchs shut down the site. I suspect that’s why the media crazies are strangely quiet about Gab now.

By the end of this week, the media will be fixated on the Brown Wave they are trying to wish into reality. The gaslighting will be so intense some of them may burst into flames. Even the Antifa members working at the Daily Beast and Estrogen Post will be too busy to notice Gab is back.

That said, Torba needs to think about how to police lunatics like Little, who are just attention seeking wackos. The normal self-policing tools don’t work with these guys. My suggestion is that he create a penalty box for those who come to his attention. They are on mute for everyone but those who choose to follow them. This would work for the Antifa people who go on gab trying to create trouble.

Yeah, this sort of policing violates the ideal of free speech, but he has a business to run too. No one is going to fault him for a minor hypocrisy like this.

In the Reign of the Censor, these sorts of free speech compromises are inevitable if a website dedicated to free speech wants to have a platform at all. As (temporary) compromises go, this idea by Z Man isn’t bad. The truly deranged (and tbh I have seen vanishingly few truly deranged posters on Gab, and the few I have come across I sensibly muted and stopped thinking about) are limited in their scope to harass people uninterested in reading them, yet a communications conduit is kept open so that the deranged can still interact with anyone who does want to read their genteel philosophical musings.

I say this is a temporary compromise, because once we Heritage Americans regain control of the communications gateways, there won’t be a need to try and sidestep tyrannical censors always looking to SHUT US DOWN.





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  1. Torba’s a good man. Here’s hoping he figures it out.

    “Policing the wackos” is vague. That’s what twitter claims to be doing. Gab is a free speech site and legal political speech should be allowed. However, since most of the troublesome posters on Gab are probably government agents, or Big Tech actors (but I repeat myself?), Torba should probably have free reign to suspend accounts he suspects of being undercovers/honeypots. You should be able to report a post and check a box that says “I think this user is potentially an undercover agent or otherwise seditious to the Gab community”. This would give him some maneuverability for censorship that will still be palatable to the Gab community.

    [CH: also a good idea. bonus: it would maximally trigger libs who decided in the trump era that fbi plants don’t exist.]

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    • They just dropped a bomb on Mueller

      #WEBELIEVESURVIVORS

      start chanting now…

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      • The (((MSM))) is reporting that Mueller has referred a case of women being paid to accuse him of sexual harassment, in order to discredit him, to the FBI for investigation.

        Looks like he’s the one dropping a bomb, or what am I missing?

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  2. no. there can be no compromise on free speech – not the thinnest sliver. The second Gab compromises, then they lose their free speech high-ground. You shadow-banned Little, why not these other accounts. Before you know it Antifa is on the site pressuring Gab to shadowban everyone like they do on twitter. If he holds to an absolutist autistic interpretation of free speech, he can say, “We suffer with these crazies on principle. Our high principles keeps us from taking the easy way out.”

    [CH: in principle, i agree. but what good are principles in the vacuum of exile? torba is nobly dedicated to free speech, which may cost him any means of proving his dedication. temporary tiny hypocrisies may be the price we have to pay until the day arrives that the public square is no longer wholly owned and operated by our enemies.]

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    • The enemy will call him a Nazi no matter what he does. He needs to do what is necessary to appeal to a principled audience who is not already, by deep ethnic hatreds, set against him.

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      • We are all Nazis, and have been for decades to the gommies and libtards.
        I have been waiting to get my Hugo Boss uniform ( SS Black, of course ) for years.

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    • never apologize; agree and amplify

      where did I read that? couldn’t have been here…

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    • on October 30, 2018 at 3:03 pm Reinald Vallejo

      Free speech is a myth, fuckhead.

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    • Meh. Free speech is a liberal idea based on the liberal premise that we can talk out all of our problems. Speech, like all liberties, should be the privilege of a neo-aristocracy built upon the idea that all men are not created equal and therefore not everyone can handle freedom. You must have character (heritage) and training (discipline) to be free. Still, the great mistake of modernity is not the pursuit of liberty but the presumption of universality.

      “Few men want liberty, while the greater part seeks a just master.” — Sallust

      Rights should be earned and salable rather than presumed to be “endowed by our creator” and “unalienable.” I realize that offends our inborn liberal sensibilities, but that just means we have to go further down the rabbit hole: the only way out is through.

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      • Anyone interested in the history and purposes of ‘free speech’ should read J.B. Bury’s 1914 work “A History of the Freedom of Thought” https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/10684

        He viewed free speech as a salutary development that undermined the superstitions of Christianity and led to the technological successes of modern science. Unfortunately he did not see that undermining that pillar of our Civilization would lead to its imminent collapse, despite being able to see that “natural rights” do not really exist, including this “right” to free speech.

        From his introduction:
        “If a man has any “natural rights,” the right to preserve his life and the right to reproduce his kind are certainly such. Yet human societies impose upon their members restrictions in the exercise of both these rights. A starving man is prohibited from taking food which belongs to somebody else. Promiscuous reproduction is restricted by various laws or customs. It is admitted that society is justified in restricting these elementary rights, because without such restrictions an ordered society could not exist. If then we concede that the expression of opinion is a right of the same kind, it is impossible to contend that on this ground it can claim immunity from interference or that society acts unjustly in regulating it. But the concession is too large. For whereas in the other cases the limitations affect the conduct of every one, restrictions on freedom of opinion affect only the comparatively small number who have any opinions, revolutionary or unconventional, to express. The truth is that no valid argument can be founded on the conception of natural rights, because it involves an untenable theory of the relations between society and its members.”

        audiobook version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNshHtF4xIA

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  3. In any case, the solution is alternatives.
    I do not know how much of this is already in place.
    BUT as long as a domain name can be had and not removed
    (I don’t think domain names are censored, anybody?)
    then you need a host. Somebody friendly. Or one can
    be created.
    And then we are off to a reasonably attack proof medium.
    A massive Denial Of Service might be problem however.
    I see two levels of DOS here, one is simple swarming of the host,
    the other creating loads of garbage posts (crazy or just random text).
    This could be dealt with by using “membership only” and
    a) Making membership creation just a tad time consuming, and
    having verification of actual person built in
    and
    b) Deleting members that misbehave

    Now, the system should allow multiple blogs, likely on the same server, again with constraints based on blocking blogs that are DOS-like.

    There is some engineering here, but It should be workable.
    There would be some trial and error here.

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  4. on October 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm William of Orange County

    If history is any indication, deplatforming can work against the deplatformer, so long as the deplatformed maintains “frame” and dedication to their original principles. Shutting down Gab probably doubles or tripled (if not more) their visibility and recognition within the marketplace, but like a previous commentor mentions, if they compromise on their free-speech principles in the slightest it will be over for them quickly.

    Otherwise, this could end up being a positive for Gab…if they play their cards right and inoculate themselves against further attempts to shut them down.

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  5. “You just know that lunatics like Patrick Little were salivating at the opportunity to get attention for their crazy rants. ”
    SHUT IT DOWN

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  6. Does anyone know why WrongThink is down?

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  7. on October 30, 2018 at 1:54 pm posts only tweets

    Hadn’t realized that the one benefit to gab being shut down is that it cannot be mined for selective gabs, to give the (((MSM))) any fodder to further their case.

    As with most things, I’ll see how the weekend plays out and if gab’s back or not.

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    • You’re looking at it all wrong. I say we should pour it on.

      Every kike that kavetches on the news makes outrageous demands against the liberty of John q. Taxpayer…. The say foreign heeb words …. Shit they’re even revealing alliances; and you guys want to duck and cover?

      I’m fucking pissed, infact now that I’m thinking about it… Why is Torba making anti semitism take a back seat to him?

      Am I alone in this….

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  8. Lolz bullshit

    Winners write the history

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purim

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    • Fucking unbelievable. Read it carefully and apply what we know about how Jews lie. Figure out how it went down. Incredible. Read between the lines.

      But actually read Esther. Very easy to understand. You don’t need Wikipedia.

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      • It’s just so surprising that “antisemitism” arises wherever Jews are, for 2500 years.

        Must be that everyone else is crazy. Can’t be that there is anything wrong with Jews.

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    • i. The previous decree against the Jewish people could not be annulled, so the King allows Mordecai and Esther to write another decree as they wish. They decree that Jewish people may preemptively kill those thought to pose a lethal risk. As a result, on 13 Adar, five hundred attackers and Haman’s ten sons are killed in Shushan. Throughout the empire 75,000 of the Jewish peoples’ enemies are killed.[14] On the 14th, another 300 are killed in Shushan. No spoils are taken.[15]

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      • This is openly celebrated every year by Jews and they run the system such that schools (public schools) make teacher planning days coincide with the holiday.

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      • That is straight up murder of host nation goyim who had not done anything. Jews “thought them” to be a risk.

        Government sanctioned (because of Jewish control of the govenrment).

        Is it antisemitism to merely point out what the Jewish holiday Purim is about?

        They openly celebrate it. It’s in the Bible.

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      • Now is the time to accept our anti semitism.

        Normalize it…. Besides, it’s just good ole fashioned Jew hating talk.

        If we can push this, fucking dersowitz will captain a charge to make it jailable. I think some of you under estimate the sizes of the forces we have marshaled.

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      • on October 30, 2018 at 6:03 pm gunslingergregi

        hmm 75000 killed
        72000 overdoses

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  9. on October 30, 2018 at 2:24 pm Captain Obvious

    Cuck Ryan: President Trump Cannot End Birthright Citizenship with Executive Order http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3701306/posts

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  10. Patrick Little hasn’t done anything wrong. All the guy does is literally “name the Jew.” Why all the hate from the Z-Fag?

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  11. LOL YOU BITTER CUCK SHUT INS YOUR LIVES REVOLVE AROUND SOCIAL MEDIA AND TELEVISION LOL

    [CH: when are you gonna log out?]

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  12. […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  13. Hopefully. soon? Or never? I’m having withdrawals tho.

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  14. Gab or Gabbai

    A gabbai (Hebrew: גבאי‬), also known as shamash שמש‬ (sometimes spelled shamas) or warden (UK, similar to churchwarden) is a beadle or sexton, a person who assists in the running of synagogue services in some way. The role may be undertaken on a voluntary or paid basis. A shamash (literally ‘servant’) can also mean an assistant to a rabbi (particularly the secretary or personal assistant to a Hassidic rebbe)

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  15. Muting users like this seems like a sub-optimal solution. It wouldn’t have helped in this situation. Remember, leftists are actively looking for stuff so obfuscating wrong-think isn’t really effective. They’ll just go right to the profiles they want dirt on.

    I suppose you’re making it harder to find and perhaps will shield new users from certain insanity. Still, where’s the limit? Weev got banned. Is that just? Where are we drawing the line exactly? Naming jews? Naming race?

    There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot that can be done defensively. What I’d do if I were Andrew Torba is go on the offensive. Put up examples of Twitter getting away with this shit in the side-bar of my site on every page. When anyone asks me for my comment only talk about how Twitter doesn’t get this treatment. Anything to put the heat on the other side. Maybe get r/the_donalds or similar normie-tier right wing people behind me pushing this issue into the mainstream. Frame it like the tech giant Twitter getting away with this while the small competitor is getting crushed unfairly.

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  16. Gab or Gabbai

    A gabbai (Hebrew: גבאי‬), also known as shamash שמש‬ (sometimes spelled shamas) or warden (UK, similar to churchwarden) is a beadle or sexton, a person who assists in the running of synagogue services in some way. The role may be undertaken on a voluntary or paid basis. A shamash (literally ‘servant’) can also mean an assistant to a rabbi (particularly the secretary or personal assistant to a Hassidic rebbe).

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  17. on October 31, 2018 at 8:23 pm Maple Curtain

    Z Man is just another wannabe e-celeb who resents ‘lesser’ beings having an outlet for their musings, too. He’s not a free speecher; he’s a fuckin’ Bolshie. He just disagrees over who should be doing the censoring. If he’s got anything sensible to say about Patrick Little, he should say it, instead of this snobbish “more in sorrow than in anger” posturing…

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  18. Actually, shitstain..
    We will take gab down every single time it manages to be a herpetic sore on the web.
    The Left always wins.

    [CH: oh look, another queefing vagina who can’t handle man talk.]

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  19. I suspect something like that was already going on. Cantwell noted his followers reporting his content barely showing up in their feeds. I also personally saw a strange bug where certain profiles took a very long time to load.

    Torba also banned Pepe_Memes, JSello, and Onewaydotcom with no acknowledgment or explanation. Pepe might have been banned for memes construed as threats or something. JSello and Onewaydotcom were critical of Torba’s STO, one of them noting he had given himself a $10k raise.

    What’s alarming to me is Torba hasn’t said what he did and didn’t provide to the FBI, so it’s possible he let them image the entire server.

    Don’t browse Gab without a VPN and if you guy Pro, always do it with a Prepaid card (assuming they really do get a new payment processor). It is officially a dangerous platform on which to be a dissident.

    [CH: i use vpns on any site i have to log into. heck, i use vpns all the time i’m online. it’s good policy.]

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    • Fair. It figured you’d know how to handle your opsec.

      Still bugs me that Torba is so nonchalantly trumpeting his full cooperation to the corrupt FBI, while making no explanations or reassurances of protecting user data. But him bugging me is nothing new.

      Hopefully nothing bad comes of it.

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  20. Hope he gets it done soon.

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