Gaming Mean Girls

Game can work on middle school girls.

Now that your mind has prematurely (heh) drifted into the gutter, the follow-up context will save your mortal soul from eternal damnation. Reader mindweaponsofragnarok explains,

To show you how long Heartiste has been up:

2011….I’m awed and fascinated, high af on the Red Pill.

My daughter is 13 and having trouble with her female peers. A rich girl name Anna is jerking her around, “I’m your friend, I’m not your friend,” type games.

So I tell my 13 year old kid about Game. I tell her:

“Ignore Anna’s texts, until she sends you a few texts, then reply with one or two words at most, as though you didn’t have time or give a shit to even correspond with her. Trust me, try it!”

CH Poon Commandments V: Adhere to the golden ratio, and VI: Keep her guessing.

Give your woman [ed: or middle school BFF] 2/3 of everything she gives you. For every three calls or texts, give her two back. Three declarations of love earn two in return. Three gifts; two nights out. Give her two displays of affection and stop until she has answered with three more. When she speaks, you reply with fewer words. When she emotes, you emote less. The idea behind the golden ratio is twofold — it establishes your greater value by making her chase you, and it demonstrates that you have the self-restraint to avoid getting swept up in her personal dramas. Refraining from reciprocating everything she does for you in equal measure instills in her the proper attitude of belief in your higher status. In her deepest loins it is what she truly wants.


True to their inscrutable natures, women [ed: and middle school BFFs] ask questions they don’t really want direct answers to. Woe be the man who plays it straight — his fate is the suffering of the beta. Evade, tease, obfuscate. She thrives when she has to imagine what you’re thinking about her, and withers when she knows exactly how you feel. A woman may want financial and family security, but she does not want passion security. In the same manner, when she has displeased you, punish swiftly, but when she has done you right, reward slowly. Reward her good behavior intermittently and unpredictably and she will never tire of working hard to please you.

She did it, and Anna came to heel. She then used Game on boys, too, she used it on everyone. It was like I handed the kid a weapon and the answer to all social interaction became Game.

You opened Glandora’s Box for her. This is a dangerous power to give a flowering daughter.

However, she was also kind of a brat, but I sure as hell was NOT a beta daddy. I wouldn’t give her what she wanted, and she would wish death on such on me, and I would just laugh and say, “Whatever.” She would threaten all sorts of things, and i would just shut her out.

This was absolutely the best thing to do. The worst thing would have been to show weakness. She accused me of having no feelings at all. I would say, “That’s a good thing, LOL!”

Now she’s 19 years old and doing quite well.

For young daughters on the cusp of their formative years, Game save them from mean girls and preen boys. Or, it can turn them into femme fatales. The power of Game to warp female sexuality and self-entitlement is something to behold, because women live and breathe on their ability to jockey for intra-sex status through gossip, slander, and innuendo. Game can amplify all these traits in women, providing them with a better defense but also a thermonuclear offense. The wise daddio tempers his daughter’s growing power and keeps her grounded with tiny seeds of self-doubt, because the truth is that bloated female self-esteem is far more corrosive to the dating and marriage markets than is high male self-esteem.

Good to hear for this reader, his daughter learned just enough to exert active influence over her social life but not too much to make a lot of enemies and attract fly-by-night cads.


  1. Now that your mind has prematurely (heh) drifted into the gutter

    I don’t have a dirty mind….I have a sexy imagination!


  2. […] Gaming Mean Girls […]


  3. on November 14, 2017 at 3:23 pm Les Saunders, Protestant

    My default attitude towards girlz and womyn now is one of incredulity.

    There is yet another globalist girl intern in the orifice. She’s got a bit of Latin or Portuguese in her, but man, she’s spectacularly beautiful and sexy. Big slightly curled black hair, tight body, nice rump. About 22.

    She told me she’s never eaten fish in her life. I flat out said, “I don’t believe you.” She then, as they always do when I run incredulousness game, went in to protest (“nooo, really, please believe me”), and I dig in and dismiss.

    What I’m doing is challenging them, not going along, not letting them frame the narrative, and setting myself up as the master; the onus is on them to impress me. She’s a puppy looking for my approbation. Keep it slightly playful.

    When I hear the gay conversations older men (30s, 40s) have with her, the incredulity game must be like a two by four to head – and that’s just what you need. Knock them clean off their pedestal.

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  4. Congratulations to Andrew Anglin..front page cover on The Atlantic. Can I have your autograph?


    • Poor Luke O’Brien is nahzee obsessed.


    • Heh — I saw that. The fact that they’re quaking before an Internet nazi is delightful in itself.

      The article also seems to include tidbits that are almost like they’re TRYING to make Anglin sound like a tough guy — getting beaten up by people and just laughing contemptuously instead of fighting back, for example. Not to mention the cover pic itself, which does its best to make a singularly non-threatening-looking chap appear menacing.

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      • His high school girl is hot.
        Well in AA.

        O’Brien spent about 9 months working on this article.
        Anglin is making waves and is world famous…O’Brien is a parasite and a nobody.


      • isn’t he like 5’2 120?

        boy got spunk


  5. 7 public speaking tips from Trump:

    With clear Game applications for making yourself a more magnetic presence. Enjoy!

    1) Make speeches sound “off the cuff”
    2) Paralipsis, a.k.a., saying the thing said you weren’t going to say, e.g., “I will not say he’s low energy…”
    3) Avoid pauses through repetition
    4) Use ambiguity
    5) Find a common grievance
    6) Audience participation
    7) Use suspense

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  6. Think of the children !

    – Transgender lessons for two-year-olds: Drag queens drafted into nursery schools to teach children about sexual diversity –

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    • aight man


    • If the Daily Mail virtual fishwrap ever went off the ‘nets, some of youse yeggs would lose half your reading material and have to start hanging around supermarket check-out lines to get your tabloid fix.

      (((shakin’ mah haid)))


      • Maybe. But the DM is one of only a handful of MSM outlets that will publish unfavourable (i.e. truthful) stories about blacks, Muslims, immigrants and the vast array of sexual perverts out there.


  7. on November 14, 2017 at 5:09 pm pathfinderlight

    Any instruction in Game should be full red pill, especially for women. No one tells them the truth in Western society because we worship the god of the GoodFeelz. Women need to know about their declining value in advance, so they can best take advantage of their pretty years to get them the best chance at long term success.


  8. on November 14, 2017 at 5:42 pm strongwhitecock

    Brave soul, teaching game to his daughter, especially if you use the term “game”. As stated, it could easily backfire later in her as stated, it could easily backfire later in her life.

    Personally, I intend to teach my daughter the consequences of sex when she is around 15, and I don’t mean just pregnancy and STDs. I want to explain to her the unfulfilled life a woman sews by riding the cock carousel and staying unmarried until her 30s. Unfortunately, I’m sure there will still be plenty of real life examples around her to see.


  9. One of my biggest game breakthroughs came a number of years ago when I started being “unreasonable” in reciprocating communication.

    A bit like the 2/3 rule, but I take it even further than that. I will not respond to a girl unless she is *really* showing interest, or doing the things I want her to do. Taken to its ultimate conclusion it means I often won’t respond to anything other than nudes, compliments, or requests to hook up (a bit more nuanced than that but you get my drift).

    This has a multi-pronged effect. 1) It stops you from wasting your time on massive ego-driven validation whores (at the same time helping you preserve your self-respect) and 2) It actually turns chicks on, a lot.

    The chicks in my rotation who are consistently the horniest for my dink are the ones who are always slightly aggrieved by what they perceive as an injustice/inequality in my communication style.

    Injustice/inequality = tingles.


  10. Had to share this absolute PRO comment on Rational Male by commenter Razorwire in response to a Rollo post on male creepiness. Hits on so many levels. The Chateau will appreciate this.
    The unwanted beta attention has always struck me as a central to all of this creepy business.

    Women want fried ice sure enough, but in their protracted efforts to reduce any and all risk and personal responsibility (anything approaching actual “equality”), they’ve employed a variant of socialism to manage the SMP, outsourcing a massive amount of their responsibility for filtering potential mates to the State and other armed factions of the cultural overlords. So they end up creating the kind of disparity, chaos, and despair that one would expect.

    Under this regime, women desire to categorically control/limit the unwanted beta attention by creating (and subsequently shrinking) the landscape into an increasingly complex matrix of appropriate vs creepy. On the individual level, however, they reserve the right to ignore parts (or all) of the matrix for certain kinds of men, aka the “make rules for beta, break rules for alpha” concept extrapolated onto the entirety of the SMP.

    It’s sexual market anarcho-tyranny. AKA Laws are for betas.

    The increasingly paradoxical and self-defeating conditions set upon beta men are codified through things like sexual zoning and contextual/situational rules of engagement traps, aka venue appropriateness, affirmative consent, sexual harassment, etc. such that the average, decent “rule following” men are over-policed, over-regulated, and disproportionately punished for their fumblings.

    A woman will complain all day long about the creepy guy at the gym who interrupted her workout to chat her up and ask for her number. That same woman will question why I didn’t approach her sooner (at the gym).

    Beta men are ultimately regulated out of the market, ideally to be sequestered into holding pens where they can be selectively harvested to shore-up the downstream vacancies baked-into the system, i.e. the sexual price inflation on the road to “man up and marry that slut.”

    So while most men are under the tyrannical rule of the tentacles of feminine primacy, on the margins it’s anarchy; a shrinking subset of men run free. The right tail is where the pareto principle gets compressed, the 10% are in the gravy. The rules melt away. The creep matrix is simplified, if not gone altogether. Some of it is the savvy, game, and natural ability of those men to avoid the traps, but a lot of it is that the traps weren’t designed to snare them in the first place.

    The left tail is where r-selection runs wild and actual lawlessness, violence, aggression, dark triad, and ZFG have traction.

    For the majority in the middle, the zones have been reduced to only a handful of places, times, and situations – and the rules of engagement are a humiliating labyrinth of dissonance.

    We see this play out in things like sexual tension and aggression. The “law” says comfort and familiarity lead to “earned” sex but their eyes see certain men use tension and aggression – and it works. How many fingers am I holding up? Wrong! Beta men are fattened up and then asked to pass through the eye of the needle.

    We see this zone-shrinking in stupid shit like how Tinder lost traction for women. Slutting themselves out became problematic because men were treating them like sluts. But it wasn’t just that, it was that the *wrong* men were treating them like sluts and that gave them badfeelz.

    Also problematic was how the script of plausible deniability of the right men (“netflix and chill”) fell into the hands of the wrong men and the right men started to get lazy in the gravy, so the whole illusion ran threadbare. So: Bumble. More outsourced filtering, more built-in passivity to reinforce plausible deniability and fem-centric ROE’s.

    The wrong men can no longer even approach. Women get to retain the currency of male desire, attention, and *potential* investment but with minimal risk, corollary investment, or badfeelz from the reflective self-assessment as a result of men who might just be their SMV equivalent daring to pursue them beyond admittance of interest. Assortive mating, like most truth, is uncomfortable in this grand charade.

    The Tinder-Bumble shift is a microcosm of zoning at large – and illustrative of how technology can be part of the problem but also accelerate the self-destructive nature of this system.

    For most men, the risk/reward (and even just the energy) to constantly have to learn, adapt, and navigate the SMP is just not worth it. The “just keep your head down” strategy as a result of the HR threat has now moved out of the office and into the streets.

    The HR/SJW/State is everywhere, watching, listening, ready to haul you off to the sexual gulag. And the increasingly precarious reputation management of social media and ubiquitous, hyper-superficial connectivity amplifies the downside risk. All of this, predictably, produces a massive shortage of “real men” who “just get it”, but it also crushes the incentives for many who actually do get it.

    Decent men are hyper-regulated into being passive and reactive instead of pro-active and aggressive. This is not just a functional problem, it is also part of the positive feedback loop that reduces upward mobility in terms of attractiveness.

    And overall attractiveness is ultimately what drives the creepy factor. An (already) attractive man is rarely creepy. Too aggressive, sure. Poorly calibrating, sure. But this might land him as a cad, player, or fuckboi – critiques of function, not form. An attractive man is most often called creepy like he is called a jerk. The real “creepy” is largely about form. It is ultimately reserved for betas to keep them behind the velvet rope where they belong.

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    • Pro comment for sure….thanks for sharing.

      I’ll submit as further evidence the fact that France is looking to make illegal catcalling women. Talk about the state as bodyguard…..


  11. (1) So “Game” can work on women for non-sexual relationships?

    (2) “She then used Game on boys, too, she used it on everyone.”

    How does that work? That is, how do using the techniques for women work when used by women on men (or girls on boys?)

    [CH: some of the concepts of Game are unisex. they are universal hacks of human psychology. most game techniques work primarily on women, though, because they respond to different mate value stimuli than do men. i think there’s a post in the CH archives on this topic, in fact.]


    • on November 14, 2017 at 7:34 pm strongwhitecock

      1) Yes. All women respond to game, it’s just the frame of the game that changes for different situations. Sexual frame for getting sex obviously; punishment and reward frame for getting your kids to behave and do chores and shit,

      2) weeding out betas. If a boy texts her 50x to her one, beta. If she does asshole game to him aka usual women’s shit testing and he folds, beta; if he teases, agrees and amplifies, reframes, or any game technique, alpha/cad.


    • I gamed a girl at work and turned her from a shy neurotic mess into an executive in 3 years.
      To her I was high status…and her confidence exploded.
      Nothing sexual about it.

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    • We all like to be charmed–to have our oversized human egos stroked. We are all entitled pretty pretty princesses prancing in our petty pathetic own ways straight to Hell (without Jesus).

      Even when we know that it’s completely bullshit, we still love it deep down in our rotten faithfulness souls. It becomes a meta-charm at that point.

      It’s damn hard to keep it up for too long however, because friends become tyrannical.


    • Game biologically works like muscles, men use it against other men and women see muscles and are attracted.


    • Game isn’t just between a man and a woman, it’s applicable to all human relationships.
      Scarcity, push-pull, 2/3 rule, DGAF……all of it


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  13. If you listened to DC radio in the 1980s, you’ll now The Greaseman. Here is beta (psycho) dad’s encounter with his daughter’s first date:


  14. Interesting concept. I always thought of game as man towards woman. Of course it would be useful for a young teenage girl to influence her peer group.


  15. on November 14, 2017 at 9:07 pm gunslingergregi

    yea ex ex daughter said getting fucked with in school so yea got to have right clothes I guess or whatever so ahh yea prob some jealousy too now cause she so pretty now so wtf kids cruel but whatever can we get more of that shit on how to deal I guess


    • on November 14, 2017 at 9:10 pm gunslingergregi

      I think I did sense it so been doing the build up thing
      then the destroying of shit boyfriend
      and yea getting her self esteem up a bit
      cause bunch of pics were pulled out yesterday and yea when young she was a fat little thing but cute lol I remember taking her to swim lessons and broke my heart when she grew up and was a woman basically I don’t think she understands that cute innocent girl is ok in life nothing wrong with it jeez kids are cruel wtf man


      • on November 14, 2017 at 9:13 pm gunslingergregi

        she was embarrassed of her pic when young man I’m fucking emotional cause that is really fucked up man
        but what to do i’m gonna work on getting her braces I guess which is prob the norm now


      • on November 14, 2017 at 9:16 pm gunslingergregi

        she should be marrying a dang millionaire and making him happy how I ensure that he he he


  16. on November 14, 2017 at 10:04 pm gunslingergregi

    allright time to watch gunslinger dark tower for first time


    • on November 15, 2017 at 12:35 am gunslingergregi

      not bad i expected much worse i think they did a good job with the movie
      special effects at end decent
      him dropping a gun in beginning fuck no lol
      had someone literally grab my nine and yank it lol
      i did a complete flip in air and was still holding it he he he


  17. I love treating mean girls like shit. Makes my day!