The Great Men Foreseeing America’s Decline

Thucydides was describing today’s Democortez Party, and the partisan animosities that are driving us toward another civil war.

“thoughtless act of aggression now a mark of courage” = “punch a nazi”, excuse pantifa political terrorism.

“thinking of the future is cowardly” = electing a new people

“moderation disguises unmanly character” = MeToo sex panic

“plot against an enemy behind his back is self-defense” = Kavanaugh show trial

“family relations were a weaker tie than party membership” = shitliberalism

“these parties felt confidence in each other…because they were partners in crime” = Deep State

To better understand our present, we need to return to the Great Men of the past. They had the wisdom we lack today.

*da GBFM sheds a lone tear*

Similarly, I like to feature great womanizers and philosophers from the past, because they too had wisdom on matters of women and sex that our modren soyboys woefully lack.

Why do modrens lack the wisdom of their forebears? Maybe we have gotten stupider. Maybe less masculine and therefore more gullible as women are of passing fads in thought. Maybe we are less trusting of each other, and therefore more suspicious of wisdom that doesn’t come from ourselves.

Maybe we have been victimized by decades of anti-ancestors agitprop by perfidious forces seeking to undermine our venerated shared history and sever our family and social bonds to their personal advantage.

Whatever the cause, the solution is clear: read the warnings from the Great Men of our glorious heritage, and heed them as if our lives depended on it.


  1. on November 11, 2018 at 7:31 pm Corinth Arkadin

    There is nothing new under the sun.

    Trust the wisdom of the ancients.

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    • on November 11, 2018 at 8:17 pm gunslingergregi

      1.5 billion babies killed more dead than any war is new under the sun
      plus ability to exterminate the worlds population with drones / robots
      is basically here with one man only having to press a button and then the killing is done with no mercy no honor no compassion no sense of right or wrong just methodical cold killing of the masses

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    • The ancients failed, Thucydides would not have said what he said here had the wisdom of the ancients prevailed.

      We have to trust in something that goes even beyond them, as is written:

      “For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness.” And again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”

      “Therefore stop boasting in men. All things are yours, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephasc or the world or life or death or the present or the future. All of them belong to you, and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.”

      1 Corinthians 3:19-23

      The wisdom of men failed us, the ancients failed, and so shall we unless we place trust not in men but in God. Wisdom from men is pure poison in the end, do not place any confidence in them, God is our head, so foresight and perception are his alone.

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    • the “ancients” were driven to understand and tame a mysterious, perilous world. and so here we are. could it have turned out any other way?


    • There is nothing new under the skirt.


  2. Regarding old thinkers, I’d like to see you analyze Shakespeare. As You Like It and Twelfth Night are pretty spot on regarding sex differences. Rosalind disguised up as a dude has some good lines.

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  3. on November 11, 2018 at 7:50 pm Captain John Charity Spring MA

    Bowers kicked ww3 off. What you gotta do is get Jews talking a little about that Synagogue shooting after alcohol has loosened their tongues and record the filth about white that your er “patient” spews forth. Then edit down the choice stuff.


  4. I think there may be a dynamic here. A civilization will – usually – get rid of the most aggressive men by forcing them out (think Erik the Red) or simply killing them. This works well for many generations, and you get a more docile (this is not a value judgement) population. And lo, they will spend less time fighting each other and thus they will be more productive. (Yes, there are also other ways to reduce intragroup violence, think the 10 Commandments.)

    And then a more aggressive group comes in and takes over.

    This might create an oscillation, a loop, over timespans of milenia.


    • on November 11, 2018 at 8:15 pm gunslingergregi

      milenia too long
      it doesn’t take that long
      in 38 years woman killed 1.5 billion babies course that gonna change makeup of the world and fuck up their heads

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      • on November 11, 2018 at 8:22 pm gunslingergregi

        think of the worldwide baggage those woman have accumulated


      • They didn’t get pregnant by themselves. And, the majority of the doctor-abortionists are men.

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      • on November 11, 2018 at 8:35 pm gunslingergregi

        yea woman getting men to do the actual killing like usual they can just lay back and tell the man to do it


      • on November 11, 2018 at 8:36 pm gunslingergregi

        the men they had the baby with don’t have a right to make them not kill a baby though


      • on November 11, 2018 at 8:38 pm gunslingergregi

        that choice to kill babies all on woman’s shoulders

        the most evil sex to ever walk the earth

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      • I assume this is another anti abortion/anti birth control thing

        More humans and bigger cities logically mean less babies with anyone with a three digit IQ

        Infanticide too is nothing new to human civilization. Most of humanity practices it and for them it has little more moral significance than the many other animals ranging from wolves to rabbits and everything in between that do so. Its eugenic and tribe/species preserving

        Birth control among humans has existed as long as people could figure out how to do it , written evidence dates back over 3000 years.

        Its also had jack diddly effect on the aggressiveness of the non White population in the US at least

        Speaking of which, Gains assuming 100% of births brought to term, the US White population would not even reach replacement and neither would any of the others.

        Its not even relevant in fertility terms being under 1 million.

        Complaining about past abortions is useless and in current terms the average abortion is from a single non white mother in her 20’s

        Not the demographic I assume is of concern to you.

        As far as birth control, baring collapse or a theocracy, its not going anywhere. Even people with distaste for abortion aren’t going to ban condoms or to go all in on Gilead

        Its also futile, Japan’s population decline is largely do to celibacy

        Hoping for a total collapse in your lifetime and corresponding religious revival is about as useful as the magical thinking of some Millerite group. That things will just get shittier is about all you can count on

        If the Right wants to rule and it had better if it doesn’t want to be squashed it had better understand how to deal with a mostly urban , not especially religious population


      • The mother of a friend of mine had an abortion in the 1950s, in Israel. She was a Sephardic Jew with four kids, and the Ashkenaz were worried about being outvoted, so it was government policy to encourage Molochism among the non-Europeans. My friend’s older sister died in the IDF, and Mom felt that the death was retribution for having killed her own baby. That’s baggage all right.


      • on November 12, 2018 at 8:02 am gunslingergregi

        yea miscarriages not a womans fault fucks a lot of womans heads up thinking it might of been their fault or some shit
        never mind having a baby killed and it is their fault may god have mercy on their souls and only burn them couple thousand years he he he


    • on November 11, 2018 at 8:48 pm Cuddles the Cage Fighter

      The way I see it…

      A civilization is started by strong, determined men. Yet, civilization, by definition, removes the population from the direct Darwinian pressure of the wild. Over time, weak men that wouldn’t survive well outside of civilization accumulate and begin seizing power in feminine, passive-aggressive ways. Meanwhile, the number of strong men inevitably dwindles over time because they are the ones protecting the civilization and often dying in the process. Once the soyboys seize enough influence, the civilization collapses or is invaded because it simply cannot be maintained by weak men.

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      • But we’re being drowned in a tsunami of quasi-human near-vegetables and arrant cowards fleeing their own incompetent, indolent poverty and sometimes actual invasion of their own homelands.
        What is “strong” about these pathetic mendicants? Apart from the aroma, that is.


  5. The study of social science pushed out the wisdom of antiquity. A good chunk of the Alt Right suffers from this notwithstanding their other merits. There is more to learn in one Great Book than in 50 years of Charles Murray-AmRen social “science.” That’s the reason even conservatives have become unwise.


    • on November 12, 2018 at 3:52 am Captain John Charity Spring MA

      Worthy of CS Lewis.

      One good story is worth more than one million correlation coefficients.


  6. on November 11, 2018 at 8:26 pm gunslingergregi

    white men have no problem with going to war
    or killing

    see armed forces police swat

    but to do so on their own doesn’t really happen until some fbi agent tells em too


    • on November 11, 2018 at 8:32 pm gunslingergregi

      if the president said he needed an army
      then white dudes would volunteer like what happened with the contractors in war zones that volunteered to go
      so the us didn’t need a draft
      another new thing under the sun right?


      • I agree. If GEOTUS said “I need all able bodies American men to volunteer for a force to take back our country” then millions would show up. Well regulated too. With a full endorsement of our government and no fear of being in violation of any law.

        You’re right. Individually we are powerless. The state will grind us into nothing if we so much as put a toe over the line – whatever the line is today as defined by the shitlibs and mudmericans. We White men live in fear of the state. It is no longer led by us, and it is no longer structured for us or intended to do anything but keep us down. Because they know our military potential and fear a direct confrontation that they know they will lose.

        But with a real leader things can change. Unfortunately we don’t have that leader and our country has been structured to make sure that leader doesn’t arise. Even Trump can’t or won’t go that far. He’s full on civnat boomer in an alpha wrapper. We don’t have our Salvini yet but he may be waiting in the wings. I hope so.

        If we did ever have a leader who encouraged us to push back, the multicultural bullshit would come to a bloody end with millions of foreigners returning to their home nations so that we can have a nation for us and our posterity.

        As it is now, we are massive force with huge military power but we sit on our hands. Waiting for a leader that may never come.

        And as time goes by, as you have noted, there are less and less of us because our replacements have been aborted or were never born because of gogrrl feminism and courts biased against us.

        Our window of opportunity, when we still have the numbers and the ability to do something, is rapidly closing. In 10 years there won’t be enough White men of military age to win.


      • on November 12, 2018 at 7:15 am gunslingergregi

        go where you are appreciated
        kind of interesting I ended up wanting to live in a country where abortion is illegal and was at peace there
        there are other worlds than this one on this planet


      • on November 12, 2018 at 7:16 am gunslingergregi

        abortion illegal in Indonesia fascinating


      • on November 12, 2018 at 7:20 am gunslingergregi

        Our window of opportunity, when we still have the numbers and the ability to do something, is rapidly closing. In 10 years there won’t be enough White men of military age to win.”””””

        lol dude whites kill their own babies bro they should go the way of dodo along with every other country that condones it
        only few countries in world that believe in god and don’t kill their own children


      • on November 12, 2018 at 7:22 am gunslingergregi

        Oct 26, 2003 · In Iraq, a Muslim country, abortion has long been illegal – and socially taboo – except in medical emergencies.””””’



      • on November 12, 2018 at 7:23 am gunslingergregi

        Abortion is still haram , or forbidden, according to both Islamic law and to post-revolutionary Iranian law, and the punishments for providing or receiving an illegal abortion can be strict. Under current law, physicians can be sentenced to months of imprisonment, and women who get abortions before ensoulment are at the least fined blood money. [10]”””””

        fucking wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


      • on November 12, 2018 at 7:24 am gunslingergregi

        rofl islam is axis of evil though trolollalollalol


      • on November 12, 2018 at 7:44 am gunslingergregi

        You’re right. Individually we are powerless”””””

        not powerless while I have been in the location I am in against my will
        I have made the differences I can in many lives
        as far as fighting a war pretty pointless
        740,000 babies killed in us as of October and not to many people give a shit and nobody stopping it
        one man can make a difference in the lives he encounters though
        ex ex was mind boggled that 1.5 billion babies killed worldwide
        she said up to her would make abortion illegal
        so at least surround yourself with souls that can be saved


      • on November 12, 2018 at 5:11 pm Corinth Arkadin

        If only it was to protect our borders.

        Of course, the brass would use us anyway they saw fit and we’d see service in Europe or Japan or Dogdick, Iraq while under contract. TGE can’t be everywhere, so they’d get away with it.

        So, no, I’m not volunteering again.

        BTW, we do have a draft. It’s called the Selective Service and it can be activated any time they want.


    • Roy.

      If it came to war it won’t be a war of numbers. Its a guerilla war against a severely declining state . The odds aren’t that bad and as fragile as FUSA is these days , making sure no one wins or the system falls apart enough so that land can be taken is quite doable even ten years.

      As to what gunslingergregi said,

      Huge numbers of people who want a Whiter nation aren’t religious to any degree,

      This suggests that the US would not survive intact simply because we secular people on the Right don’t want y’all in power and have no interest in a theocracy of any kind.

      We’d be better off splitting the place unless we want a nice repeat of the 30 years war.

      The caveat here is if the Anti Abortion people can show a path to real leadership, how to run an urban society of secular people .

      You might be able to get a partial ban which a fair number of people otherwise fine with abortion would support.

      Also re: those abortion bans, they have jack impact on anything.
      Iran bans abortion other than risk to mother and server fetal deformity and has roughly the same fertility as the White people in the US.

      Its a direct religious state as well so that won’t help.

      As I’ve said before, these days almost all abortions are non White. A complete ban with 100% of babies brought to term would not increase the White TFR to replacement even as abortion is much less common now being under a million.

      A ban would essentially make the US a bit less White and slightly poorer . If this a policy goal of the anti abortion people?

      If not, its the likely outcome of such a ban.


  7. I’ve been out of touch all day for Veteran’s Day – anything TRULY newsworthy happen?


  8. “If you do not believe in your own stock enough to wish to see that stock kept up then you are not good Americans, you are not patriots; and if you do not believe in this, the I for one shall not mourn your extinction, and in such event I shall welcome the advent of a new race that shall take your place, because you have shown that you are not fit to cumber the ground”
    — Theodore Roosevelt, 1911

    There it is, from one of America’s greatest.

    So, here’s your stark choice: repent of your sins, use your Chateau skills to get married instead of sleeping around, and start having lots of babies…

    …or quit complaining about being “replaced” because the ghost of TR is standing at the border saying, “Bienvenidos, Raza Nueva!”

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  9. on November 11, 2018 at 9:30 pm Clayton Bigsby

    This has nothing to do with this thread…

    But this commercial shows how cucked the average joe is. Played during a football game.

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  10. To all the rest of you out there: today is also the day we celebrate the life of St. Martin of Tours. Professional soldier. Priest. Bishop. All around ass-kicker of the highest order.

    Today, we remember St. Martin and all of my brothers in arms. May the Virgin Mary watch over you. May the sword of St. Michael defend you. May you never know fear. May you never know defeat. May your eye never waver. May your arm never tire. May the world tremble at your coming.

    Here’s to the greatest sons of bitches I’ve ever known. God bless.

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  11. One reading of the history of the first democracy was enough to undermine my faith in democracy and ask, “Why would ANYONE think to try this again?”

    It was never going to end any differently than before.


  12. unfortunately, unless you all turn from sin to righteousness and Christ our Savior, you will get nowhere. there is no point in referencing the glory of white Christian America without embracing any of its values.

    I encourage you to watch this video:


  13. Democracy, as Plato knew, does not and cannot work. It results in mob rule by the low IQ … antifa of all times past and present. Just look at the French revolution. America was founded as a republic, not a democracy. The founding Fathers never intended for the low IQ rabble to vote since they, just as Plato, knew it was a recipe for disaster. We are now reaping the fruits of ignoring the wisdom of greater minds than ours. Prepare thyself and prepare well for darkness will once again descend upon the land.

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    • And how many times do you hear an American politician or media figurehead say “Our Democracy”?

      We are not a democracy and never were thank God.

      These people are so in your face with the lying and gaslighting.

      And I watched a little CFB Saturday after working all day. Every commercial that showed a man and woman (except 1 which showed an asian woman and asian man face-timing I guess the chinks won’t tolerate that shit even in the US) was mixed race. Either black man/White woman or the reverse.

      Every single fucking commercial. I never once saw a White family with a White father and a White mother. NOT ONE SINGLE SOLITARY GODDAMN TIME.

      Are any other White men who are watching TV noticing this at all? Or are they so numbed and cucked that they think it’s normal? That they wish their daughter would marry a nigger so their grandsons could be NCAA athletes?

      God help us.


    • on November 12, 2018 at 2:10 pm Samuel Skinner

      “The founding Fathers never intended for the low IQ rabble to vote since they, just as Plato, knew it was a recipe for disaster. ”

      Then they shouldn’t have created a system based on voting. You gain power by expanding the franchise and since people want power…


      • Sam – Plato, just like the founding fathers, envisioned an enlightened ruling class trained to govern. The concept of noblese oblige (obligation of the nobility) to govern for the good of all, as the good of all was also good for them. The fathers believed so much in this concept they gambled their own lives and fortunes to bring it into being.

        Such lofty ideals are far from immune to the innate deadly sins of men. Since the Constitution came into being there has been a steady erosion of those ideals by the ever increasing greed of the ruling class.

        The Constitution died on July 3, 1863, in Gettysburg, PA. Contrary to what schools propagandize about it, that war was fought over whether or not the country would be governed by the Constitution or by greed. Greed won.

        We then got the robber barons from the 1870’s through the Gilded Age. Then they gave us the Spanish-American War, WWI, the Banana Wars, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and now the never ending wars (Orwell) against terrorism which have turned America into a surveillance police state.

        Perhaps this grand experiment in our republic (not democracy) was doomed to failure from its birth. Human nature cannot be denied by the laws of men. And now that nature has been unleashed in an orgy of greed and egotism.

        This will not end well. My prediction is combination of the technological wonders of Brave New World in unholy alliance with an Orwellian police state. What it means to be human is rapidly disappearing into the screens of our smart phones.

        What will it mean to be human in the future? I don’t know, but I am certain it will be a world I do not want to live in. God help us all.


  14. I wonder what the trajectory of America’s decline would have been if the 1924 Immigration Act had instead been the 1874 Immigration Act.


  15. Regarding the ‘great’ womanizers of the past, they weren’t all that great really. ‘Womanizing’ was status quo normal under pre feminist patriarchy. Calling them ‘Great’ is a bit aggrandizing. Most married farmers, merchants and property owners were monogamous. Still feminists would claim that all patriarchal family structures were womanizing. Peasant workers and soldiers still relied on whores and dreamt of unicorns just like today.

    In pre feminist colonial America, a white property owning man could secure a clean 14 yo post pubescent virgin girl for dowry, and then turn around and breed her like a barnyard sow. He’d crack and breed her excellent fresh eggs one after another like a Waffle House at 6 am on Monday. Now THAT’S what you call patriarchy on a king size cracker brah! And our great green republic matured from the premier child of Europe into heretofore unseen greatness. Thank you patriarchy.

    As far as womanizing, playing tended to be a game of the power brokers of the day. Some colonial era players like Ben Franklin stood out very notably. Every time Franklin travelled to Paris, he had a cult following of French women who were Parisian society ladies. Franklin had a literal French HO TRAIN awaiting him during his diplomatic stays. Even Thomas Jefferson with his trophy cases of down low barnyard stable tarpit cowboy titles could’nt even hold an L.E.D. nightlight to the great BEN FRANKLIN. So yes, Franklin could be called ‘great’.

    But in today’s climate where western fertility is beaten down like it was a terroristic threat to leftist demagoguery, every western man with two good balls needs to ‘strive to womanize’. Make ‘GREAT’ womanizing the new normal again. We don’t want the west’s tombstone to be a statue of a naked soy boy.


  16. on November 12, 2018 at 7:09 am NowYouseCantLeave

    The lumping-together of all caucasoids as “White People” is one of the more ingenious forms of propaganda. It simultaneously robs all Europeans of the triumphs of their particular brand (English industrialism, Italian artistry, etc.) and saddles them with all wrongs ever committed by ANY brand. The more abstract the label, the easier it is to manipulate.

    Maybe the solution is to deliberately reduce European identity by a level of abstraction. They have rendered unacceptable any level of pride in being “White,” but have they done the same for “Irish pride” or “Forza Italia”? Of course, these national identities have been deliberately bastardized as well. Maybe then the solution is to go deeper into the roots: “[Anglo/Celtic/Norman/Saxon] pride.”


  17. “Maybe we are less trusting of each other, and therefore more suspicious of wisdom that doesn’t come from ourselves.”

    I think so this. We have such society that encourages narcissism and everything for the self. I remember posting in some forum, about love being some thing that is requering work. People did not agree and said if it is not serving YOU as a individual it is not worth it. We live in this age that if is not easy, then you deserve more. Why they would want to listen to ancient wisdom that takes them outside of theyre comfort zone?

    I posted this link before some weeks but I do not know if any one read it. It is very worth reading. It is wisdom from the patriarch of Constantinople to a new bride. And it is wonderfull advice to women. Ancient,, but timeless.

    Here it is.’s-advice-to-a-new-bride/amp/


  18. “Maybe we are less trusting of each other, and therefore more suspicious of wisdom that doesn’t come from ourselves.”
    good 1 wowe.


  19. It wasn’t just Thucydides who had valuable insight on the contemporary scene. The description of the democratic fetish for equality in Book VIII of Plato’s Republic is so relevant to today it’s spooky.

    Socrates describes the rise of youth culture, contempt for elders and teachers, equality of the sexes, animal rights, disdain for the law, and the treatment of foreigners as equals.

    But Socrates didn’t prophesy civil war; he prophesied the rise of tyranny out of democracy, when a demagogue arises as a so-called “friend of the people” and convinces then to invest in him the total power to indulge their appetites.

    I think this is actually what we are headed toward, rather than a civil war.
    I’d prefer a civil war because at least then I would have a chance to be on the winning side — or at least die striving for something. The more likely outcome is the rise of a dysgenic lumpenproletariat (what Nietzsche described as the “Last Man” or “maggot man”) investing total power in a government that promises to satiate their appetites.


  20. The Libertarian Party WAS pro-freedom at one time before it got captured by Beltwaytarian globalist cucks financed by the Koch brothers. And let’s be honest: before Hildabeast vs Trump, these Presidential races were basically between Dems and RINOs like Romney or Christian Zionist morons like Bush Jr. The only possible exception was Reagan, and he had the satanic Bush Sr on his ticket. That’s why as I life-long libertarian I cast my first major-party Presidential ballot for Donald Trump. If he stops the invader caravan, I’ll vote for him again.


  21. on November 12, 2018 at 11:29 pm Song For the Deaf

    The “Thucydidean Trap” is also something we’re about to step into with China, in another 15 years or so.


  22. I read this article about the looming “Sex Recession” of Millennial women on MSN, I think it’s worth checking out, get a load of what one of the girl’s says about her circle of friends and wonder as to why they’re single

    “How could various dating apps be so inefficient at their ostensible purpose—hooking people up—and still be so popular? For one thing, lots of people appear to be using them as a diversion, with limited expectations of meeting up in person. As Iris, who’s 33, told me bitterly, “They’ve gamified interaction. The majority of men on Tinder just swipe right on everybody. They say yes, yes, yes to every woman.”

    Iris observed that her female friends, who were mostly single, were finding more and more value in their friendships. “I’m 33, I’ve been dating forever, and, you know, women are better,” she said. “They’re just better.” She hastened to add that men weren’t bad; in fact, she hated how anti-male the conversations around her had grown. Still, she and various platonic female friends—most of whom identified as straight—were starting to play roles in one another’s lives that they might not be playing if they had fulfilling romantic or sexual relationships. For instance, they’d started trading lesbian-porn recommendations, and were getting to know one another’s preferences pretty well. Several women also had a text chain going in which they exchanged nude photos of themselves. “It’s nothing but positivity,” she said, describing the complimentary texts they’d send one another in reply to a photo (“Damn, girl, your tits!”). She wasn’t ready to swear off men entirely. But, she said, “I want good sex.” Or at least, she added, “pretty good sex.”