Spot The Alpha Male, Handshake Edition

Via 28Sherman, a series of photos of Trump and Romney shaking hands, with their faces cropped out, and a challenge to the viewer to determine who is who by the attributes of the handshake.

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I bet most CH readers will ace this Spot the Alpha test with barely a cortical strain. Pulling the hand of the other man into one’s torso is a classic alpha dominance move. (For you noodle-armed newbs, there’s a sneaky way to pull off this alpha handshake prestidigitation that doesn’t required ballsy muscular flexion; swivel the free-hand side of your torso into the person whose hand you’re shaking, which will give the visual impression that you’re pulling the person’s hand inwardly to your body.)

Verdict: Mittens is Trump’s bitch.

PS An LA Times story on the alt-right. Richard Spencer appears to have congealed as the official face of the alt-right. I have nothing against the man, so good luck to him. From what I’ve read (about himself and of his views), there isn’t much with which I’d disagree. I wouldn’t stress objectives like mandated racial segregation or mass deportations of nonWhite citizens, (that kind of stuff just serves red meat to an automatically antagonistic media), but his world view strikes me as mostly in line with a realist appraisal of the eventual fate of hyperethnic, multiracial societies.

The other criticism I’d level at him is the embrace of the ghey. Enough already with this fruitcup glorification as a perceived means of lending a revolutionary movement a sophisticate’s credibility to make it more palatable to a pozzed culture. I really don’t see NPI going anywhere if its brand is embroidered with the gay rainbow. The Trumpening is a clarion call to a resurgent masculinity, not to the poseur campulinity of roided up gays.

PPS An oldie-but-goodie: feminist women have masculinized digit ratios. Bonus LOLs: Swedish WOMEN have more masculine digit ratios than Swedish MEN. Sweden is so cucked it’s fucked….by swarthy invaders. Too bad. Say goodbye to the Swedish phenotype. It’s not long for this world.





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  1. […] Spot The Alpha Male, Handshake Edition […]

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  2. on November 21, 2016 at 1:40 pm (((Divine Son of Kek)))

    Spencer is a nerd. But at least he’s sensible about the JQ.

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    • on November 21, 2016 at 11:04 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

      Spencer is a very intelligent man, but it’s almost as if he’s trying to be an academic or an intellectual with deep things to say. No. He’s an organizer and political player. He’s worked too hard over the last several years to be written off as frivolous layman. Time to tighten up, gentlemen.

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  3. I was about to ask if Spencer was gay, as I had read that he was.

    That’s probably why the LA Times gave him the writeup.

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  4. on November 21, 2016 at 1:45 pm HungarianPatriot

    Can’t wait for the Swedes to go the way of the dodo.

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  5. Perhaps Romney barks like a poodle on command. Maybe he yips the Star Spangled Banner while sitting in Trump’s arms.

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  6. The first-phase of the war against the machines is over. President Trump, from his command post in Trump Tower, surveys the wreckage of the liberal assault machine-automatons, all talking the same way, none of them specific in their complaints against his Deplorables fighting with the Resistance movement. The Liberals’ real Skynet directive: Purge the West of its native white populations and usher in a high-tax, high-gimmedat regime under which all the happy brown and black peoples will celebrate together thanks to their moral limpwrister (liberal) terminator-overlords, who will employ them as junior executives in media corporations and academic institutions across the land.

    The overall war must not be lost. Trump is the last chance to teach true humanity to fight back against the Hunter-Killer drones of the media landscape and the Politically Correct cucks who rule the corporate hallways in terminator infilitrator units disguised with lipsticked smiles. To read the rest, visit torontogod.wordpress.com

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  7. I wouldn’t stress objectives like mandated racial segregation or mass deportations of nonWhite citizens, (that kind of stuff just serves red meat to an automatically antagonistic media), but his world view strikes me as mostly in line with a realist appraisal of the eventual fate of hyperethnic, multiracial societies.

    Spencer’s promotion of mandated racial segregation and “peaceful ethnic cleansing” is beyond foolish and shows an unredeemable lack of political sense. He is threatening to kill off this fledgling nationalist political movement, which otherwise has great potential to fold in moderate and loyal Americans of all stripes – Whites, Blacks, Asian, Spanish – and finally bring some sanity to our immigration policies.’

    His flamboyant employment of Nazi-era motifs (“Victory of the Will”, Luegenpresse – “in the original German (tee hee hee)”), and approval of “ethnic cleansing” in whatever form (as per above) during once-in-a-lifetime access to mainstream media is unforgiveable. It reminds me of a child lashing out angrily. Or someone who doesn’t actually want to win, or is afraid of winning. A LARPer.

    It would be one thing if there were established already a strong nationalist center in our country. There isn’t. The strategy against it is always to marginalize, push it out to the fringe in the public’s mind, make it socially and financially costly to adhere to. And Spencer is playing right into the globalists’ hands by feeding the media inflammatory bs that is marginalizing himself–and more importantly marginalizing a fragile movement that never elected him its leader.

    This guy is not a leader. He doesn’t have it. And he is destructive. An AIPAC/ADL/SPLC plant couldn’t be doing a more effective job.

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    • I agree 100%. That’s high school libertarian provocateur BS not serious political thought. The media will try to tar The Great Man with this crap.

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    • That and he talks like a fag

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    • One other thing. I watched the NPI press conference. Asked whether they had contact with the incoming Trump administration, the panel got all mealy mouthed. Spencer paused. Not “direeeectly.” He or another of the panel said that on an occasion a few of them may have shaken Bannon’s hand.

      Well, from that, the accurate answer is a resounding, “No.” And that’s what they should have said immediately. Sorry guys. You do not have contact with or contacts in the Trump administration. But Spencer, unable to admit this forthrightly, said just enough to leave a hostile press space to suggest to its mainstream audience that Trump has links to a group that tosses around phrases like “Triumph of the Will,” “ethnic cleansing,” “Hail Victory,” and “Luegenpresse,” and gives Nazi salutes at there gatherings.

      Go extreme if you want dude, but carry your own water. Don’t impose the costs of doing so on others. Incredibly dishonorable. Spencer should be strung up by the balls.

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      • Spencer should be strung up by the balls.

        He might like that.

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      • What has failed white movements before is infighting and splits.
        Assuming you are not a troll Spencer overall is an asset. He’s putting himself out there in a world that is totally against him. Just look at the shit thrown Trumps way by the liberal establishment. Melania getting it too.
        I hope Spencer us self employed because what he is doing would probably get him fired in this climate.
        He’s putting himself on the line instead of interest warriors who don’t do jack shit.

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      • Internet Warriors

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      • Assuming you are not a troll Spencer overall is an asset. He’s putting himself out there in a world that is totally against him.

        It is a narcissistic suicide mission that harms everyone else, the people he purports to represent. He’s doing it in a way that will turn the world against him, and against us. He is ruining the image of the movement. It is a net negative: he is making the Alt Right toxic. And it is all completely unnecessary. What benefit is obtained by his advocacy of ethnic cleaning? What is the purpose of quoting Third Reich motifs, like “Sieg Heil” and “Triumph of the Will”? Of strutting around sporting “fashy” haircuts.

        Is all that likely to make legitimate nationalist policy ideas more or less palatable to a broader segment of the populace? We have real work to do and an unprecedented opportunity to do it right in front of us. Serious people do not have time for this role playing bullshit.

        He’s putting himself on the line instead of interest warriors who don’t do jack shit.

        He’s making life more difficult for everyone else, and for himself. If he truly cared about us or policy change, he would be taking a different course.

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      • on November 22, 2016 at 3:54 am long dong silver

        Agree. His hail victory speech is making rounds on facebook. He is a bit too eager to play the part for a little fame.

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      • on November 22, 2016 at 12:14 pm Randy The Random

        I think you’re being soft on these LARPing man-children. They think if they collect enough Good Boy Points they’ll get to be Hitler.

        For example:

        In the parallel universe of Azeroth which they inhabit, supporters of Trump are “cucks” who are “useful for their plans.”

        Trump needs to eviscerate these faggots, and promptly. As you rightly stated, this movement is far too important to allow such faggotry to run amock.

        In my opinion, the best solution is for Trumpers to ruthlessly mock them: Agree and Amplify.

        Some questions to ask them:

        “Hey guys, have you checked to see if you’re pure 100% Bavarian Phenotype?” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67AodOb1e4)

        “How many Skypes have you gassed today?”

        “Luftwaffe or SS?”

        We must ridicule them into adulthood.

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    • I don’t mind “extreme” positions if they come from an intellectual think-tank whose job it is to push our ideas. NPI appears to be doing its job in that regard.

      My disagreement with Spencer (If I understand his position on the matter correctly) is with his apparent appeal to dissolve European national identities into one White identity.

      [CH: on the whole, NPI is doing more good than bad for the (re)nascent nationalist-populism rebellion. spencer may not be the ideal ambassador but he’s better than a lot of alternatives. and certainly he defies the msm caricature of pro-white thinkers as toothless hillbillies. maybe being good enough is enough to get the revolution rolling in our toxic anti-white culture. yeah not every idea he espouses is grounded in reality (or realistic in application) but he gets the discourse moving in the right direction.

      we had to move on from the meme wars at some point. pepe and his triggering ilk are great fun, but change at the policy level requires more; it needs faces and mouthpieces for the movement. spencer is one of those faces (tho tbh i don’t know why him and not someone else who’s spent more time in the realtalk trenches….but hey there’s something to be said for the power of self-promotion. this is a game blog after all)]

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      • But they aren’t acting as a think tank. (I won’t even get into here how intelligent I think he is.) He does not limit himself to descriptiveness or advocacy of particular policies (even for particular people). He is purporting to speak for a group of people and to have their support. It is bad enough that he claims to speak for the “Alt Right” but he is also pushing hard to be a face of Trump’s support.

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      • By the way, I do not mind the way CH has used “Luegenpresse,” on this blog and on Twitter.

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      • Who would be your ideal choice?

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      • Did Spenser select himself? No. MSM selected him. SPLC selected him. Thus he is suspect, at least, possibly colluding, and perhaps a convenient false future example of activism’s failures for advocates of passivism like Mark Yuray.

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      • on November 21, 2016 at 10:45 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

        Although far from perfect, Spencer and NPI are doing more good than harm. There are others moving up through the ranks who will take increasingly public roles. Give it time.

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      • on November 22, 2016 at 12:56 am HungarianPatriot

        “My disagreement with Spencer (If I understand his position on the matter correctly) is with his apparent appeal to dissolve European national identities into one White identity”

        Lol then fuck his bitch ass. I’m either Hungarian or dead.

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    • On MPC, Spencer’s beliefs have been described as a “whites-only globalism”.

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    • “Or someone who doesn’t actually want to win”

      This.

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    • on November 21, 2016 at 11:17 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

      Some of Spencer’s antics I will attribute to natural theatrical tendencies, over-compensation for having so many undesirables at the conference, and to an attempt to appease the Iron Right faction of the Alt-Right that is not happy with the watered-down, yid-friendly, “big tent” approach.

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    • on November 22, 2016 at 8:47 pm HungarianPatriot

      Not to mention that idiotic tacky Hitler youth hairdo.

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  8. Spencer doesn’t speak for anyone but himself; he is not a “leader of the alt-right,” as some are calling him. He is one of many thinkers and writers on the alt-right.

    He does, however, have his own theme song.

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  9. on November 21, 2016 at 2:36 pm Beautiful Truths Ignored

    The hand pull is over-the-top. Any self respecting man (i.e., not Mitt Romney) will laugh at you if you pull this crap.

    This is not the way Trump shakes the hand of a man he respects, such as Alabama Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

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    • I thought it was over the top, too, until I started doing it. Remember, 95% of men you shake hands with will be more beta than even Mitt Romney. Starting the handshake with a quick yank inward is super easy and they will go with it. Its subtle enough nobody watching notices it, but they *sense* it.

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    • on November 21, 2016 at 10:07 pm Randy The Random

      Agreed. This childish AMOGing makes no sense when you’re not at a bar trying to get the latest strain of antibiotic resistant gonorrhea from a pro-bono hoe.

      Phallus measuring contests get old for most of us around the age of fourteen. Men at the level of Trump understand quite well their relative power with respect to one another. Pence yanking Trump’s hand toward his crotch isn’t gonna change the fact the tail doesn’t wag the dog.

      The logical conclusion of this AMOGing is going full dindu, sagging and waddling with a sideways glock yelling indiscernible Ebonics. The dindu’s pants started above waist level, but due to constant AMOGing, fell gradually below his ankles.

      AMOGing is for teenagers. Real men understand their position within the power structure, and play their part. These games are useless at best, and catastrophic at worst. Do you really think the President of the USA needs to AMOG his subordinates?

      We have more important things to do, like saving the civilization that eons of our ancestors died for.

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      • Good points, although I’d say small dominance games are for the most part genetically ingrained and unavoidable.

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  10. You gotta be prepared for some guy to extend his hand in that downward position so that you shake like a beta. All pros do this move. Grab him hard and twist back up if you have to. The one initiating the shake has the advantage, like he who throws the first punch.

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    • The tell is if he lifts his elbow towards his shoulder. Most men won’t pull this move but when you see it know that he is trying to establish dismissive superiority while departing.

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    • Give him the special secret Lodge grip.

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  11. anglin for prez in 2020

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  12. I always shake harder than I think I have to with direct eye contact. Much better to hear “lay off, killer” than look like a punk.

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  13. I picked Trump out from his appearance. Suit jacket open, tie in a state of casual dishabile. Every photo.

    ZFG.

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  14. One other giveaway from Trump is that his suit jacket is always open. Romney would never appear that way in a formal public setting, unless it was for a photoshoot with his jacket off and his sleeves rolled up.

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  15. he has nazi sentiments but he’s still pro-homo? what heresy is this!

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  16. We should never tolerate cucking innout movement, but keep in mind that the AltRight is a spectrum. Steve Bannon, for one. There’s still a lot you can’t say openly in polite company, despite all of Trump’s good work. So with some of most visible figures in the movement, we have to play along a bit with what they say.

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    • God dammit I had a really good and passionate reply eaten by the mod. The short answer is “Fuck, no,” now that we won and Trump’s in we need to push the Overton Window as far right as possible. The jews never went moderately and neither should we. Plus what good does it do to “moderate”? From every single Trump voter in the country to Vanguard fucking News, EVERYONE who disagrees with the jews is labeled “White Supremacist.”

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      • But Spencer actually talks about “superiority,” dresses like a German National Socialist, and spouts Nazi slogans. There’s no need for such BS.

        The jews stay away from the equivalent–at least in public–in pursuing the continuity of their people. And they have been very successful. Perhaps we should watch and learn.

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  17. Game technique ..stay silent ..look.unmoved …be prepared to walk away.
    It works for me alot not just with women but with asking for pay increases in work.
    One thing I’ve noticed since the election is that Hispanics who serve me are more polite now to me. They are totally dependent on us and terrified that they will be kicked out of the country or we will walk away and form our own nation. Leave the trash behind and that includes tinder white trashy women.
    Slender hot East European girls would give anything to live in a white nation with a high standard of living, security, stability and low corruption.
    Melania again getting trashed by some Palestinian Hollywood bitch. Look you’ve been warned. Eventually we are going to say nothing and walk away. The ones left behind will be screaming to take them with us.

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  18. Game technique ..stay silent ..look.unmoved …be prepared to walk away.
    It works for me alot not just with women but with asking for pay increases in work.
    One thing I’ve noticed since the election is that Hispanics who serve me are more polite now to me. They are totally dependent on us and terrified that they will be kicked out of the country or we will walk away and form our own nation. Leave the trash behind and that includes tinder white trashy women.
    Slender hot East European girls would give anything to live in a white nation with a high standard of living, security, stability and low corruption.
    Melania again getting trashed by some Palestinian Hollywood bitch. Look you’ve been warned. Eventually we are going to say nothing and walk away. The ones left behind will be screaming to take them with us.
    Germania.

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  19. Anyone else eager for the first Trump-Putin handshake?

    We may get a magnum opus from CH.

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    • Putin (maybe 5’6″?) seems to utilise the Berlusconi (maybe 5’6″) gambit. Tall guys kept at a distance and sort of “handed-off”, in sporting parlance, body swivel outwards (“lookit me!”). Height-peers get sort of 50/50 depending on whether Vlad has left-hand advantage and shoots first.. Can’t link too many examples as mod-limbo ensues.
      I’d expect something neutral but a bit odd, like this, given they are both compulsively dominant, and Vlad could probably snap Donald’s arms like grissini if he wanted to, whereas DJT could simply haul him over his shoulder like a sack of spuds, farmer-style.

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      • Left-hand, as in entering stage left, his right to audience

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      • I’ve noticed the same in many photos, Putin makes up for his short stature with dismissive body language.

        [CH: Putin is a master class in how short men can use their bodies to project alpha male dominance.]

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  20. NPI et al will collapse under the weight of poz within the first year of Trumpening. Pax D. will pen post-mortem.

    Who will survive the Trumpening? Nobody poz’d.

    Mark your calendars: head-spinning change approaches. We live in interesting times.

    PS: Do your part.

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  21. on November 21, 2016 at 10:55 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    Spencer and NPI need to get serious. Being German, I expected more maturity from these men and more order to the proceedings. We had the same old speakers, but now with added journalists, jews, and fags. Enough. Spencer and NPI need to get their act together.

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    • Spence is getting it from everyone now. Before he was too cucky on jews and disappointed a lot of us. Now he reaches the right level of intensity and folks who are supposedly on our side are freaking out and tone policing the hell out of him. Still others say he hasn’t gone hard right enough– and I agree there should be no pandering to gays and jews.

      Spencer is being accused by ninnyers of “sabotaging” our movement when it’s tone policing and pusillanimity that will sabotage us if anything does. What did he say that was wrong? Why in the hell should he apologize for anything? (((THEY))) should apologize for what they’ve done and tried to do to our people.

      NIGGERS ARE BEATING US ON THE STREETS FOR BEING WHITE AND WE’RE WORRIED ABOUT RICHARD SPENCER EXPRESSING PRIDE IN OUR RACE? WHAT IN THE FUCKING HELL?

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      • Yeah Opinionater has written 5 anti Spencer posts here. A federal troll ?
        Trying to discourage us?

        Looks like Facebook are suspending accounts now as well as twitter…four of my friends were hit and they were only trolling for giggles

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      • on November 22, 2016 at 12:12 pm Randy The Random

        So, let me get this straight.

        His political strategy involves aping Adolf Hitler, using his victory salute and English translations of many of the Third Reich’s signature elements.

        You think this is a good idea?

        Hitler was a great man who had served in WW1, did time in jail for his beliefs, and came to power brilliantly using the system. He worked the system of Weimar Germany until it was time to take the reigns of power. A master Machiavellian.

        Spencer is a LARPer. There is no way to defend him. The way to make change is to gain power. The way to gain power is to work within the system you exist, not LARP as if you are in Azeroth.

        Trump is an example of how you do it, Spencer is an example in how you DON’T do it.

        [CH: i separate spencer into two entities. one is his online presence (radix), which is usually lucid, well-written, and coherent. the other is his IRL NPI persona, which is goofy, mischievous, and possibly subversive of his own cause.]

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      • on November 22, 2016 at 12:34 pm Randy The Random

        Also, how do you define “white”?

        Pure 100% Bavarian Phenotype?

        Or do you go with the Great Men?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Races_of_Europe_(Coon)

        1488ers aren’t big on brains, but I adore their spirit.

        [CH: you’re being disingenuous. Core America is Anglo-Germanic. Tertiary American is ItaloCelt-Slav. Shit tier America is everything else.]

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      • on November 22, 2016 at 1:48 pm Randy The Random

        CH, this is where we reach a crossroads.

        The downfall of civilization is either due to a) women’s subversion or b) outsider subversion.

        Did Rome fall due to (((outsider))) subversion? What about all the subsequent Eurasian Empires?

        If you read JD Unwin, Sir John Glubb and Roger F Devlin (and the Bible), you will very quickly realize that a civilization’s survival is directly tied to the degree of female power within a society. That is, if the society leans further toward a Matriarchy than a Patriarchy, the society is irreversibly doomed. As you know well, we define Matriarchy as the degree to which women control men’s sexual options, and patriarchy the degree to which men control women’s.

        So on the one hand, we have a theory that accurately explains the downfall of every Eurasian civilization in history. On the other hand, we have a theory that was espoused by one short lived Third Reich.

        I admire the Reich more so than most, but I am the first to admit its faults. National Socialism is still, at its heart, socialism. The White patriarchy is substituted for the (((Globalists))), and every social ill is blamed upon them. Thus, the responsibilities of the men of said society is fully absolved, and the evil (((globalists))) are the wizards behind the curtain, pulling the strings.

        Do you really believe the USA would be in the state it is today if the 19th amendment was never ratified? How do you explain the decline of lily white countries like Sweden, Denmark, Canada, Australia, Germany which had near zero non-white populations?

        The (((globalists))) again? Or was it a failure of men to contain weak, pussy pedestalizing betas who continued to erode male sexual power and authority in favor of women’s?

        The downfall of mankind has has always been women, and it will always be women. Women’s biology involves generating chaos by fitness testing men. They do this subconsciously and persistently. The do it at the family level, the community level and the national level. Every woman has a feminist at their core, continuously shit testing men for weakness. Any unit (family, community, nation, empire) which fails this test is doomed, as women immediately sabotage and wait for men who will pass their test. This the God of Biomechanics. We must be ever vigilant to their tests, and continously exert our masculine authority over them. They are never to be more than dependents, the same as children. Like children, they will be a protected and privileged class, but will forfeit autonomy and responsibility.

        P.S.

        As an addendum, it is obvious that Eurasians are the only ones who have produced escape velocity civilizations. The Bantu races had some primitive societies, but never made it. Obviously, this is a result of their evolutionary environment selecting for different attributes (lack of future time orientation, low IQ, etc). We don’t disagree on this. But we must understand that the Bantu influx is a symptom of the decline, not a cause. We can play whack-a-mole with symptoms all we want, but until we strike the malady at its roots, we will be bandaging our paper cuts while bleeding to death of axe wounds.

        P.P.S

        We can denigrate muslims, but the reason their societies have survived is because they at least have a system to control female hypergamy. There is no much else they do right, but this alone is what is required for survival.

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      • I tried to respond to (((Randy)))’s stupid neener-neener “What is White?” and the mod ate it just like when I tried to answer (((Divine Son of Krap))). I’m so sick of this shit.

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      • If Spencer truly wanted to draw attention to black-on-white violence, he should have refrained from the neo-Nazi role playing.

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      • on November 22, 2016 at 5:50 pm Randy The Random

        I find it hilarious that 1488ers have become the very CultMarxists we crushed in this recent election. As soon as I present them with hatefacts that dash their infantile hopes, they immediately resort to their version of “SEXIST! RACIST!”:

        “(((GLOBALISTS)))!!!!”

        It is embarrassing that grown up men believe in a cabal of supervillian Jews who are smarter than all of us combined, and who have somehow hoodwinked millions of men into destroying their own culture. If Israeli Jews are behind this, why the hell are they doing this to themselves as well?

        Yes, many globalist vampires are of Jewish ancestry. But so are many Nobel winning scientists. It is unfortunate, but it seems Askhenazi Jews have had a disproportionate impact on history due to their higher mean IQs. This IQ gap is why we seem to see them constantly at the top of influential institutions. Furthermore, liberalism and high IQ correlate strongly. This is why you see so many liberal Jews pushing the CultMarx agenda.

        But now they’re starting to get burned like the rest of us. Remember Larry Summers getting axed from Harvard? Wasn’t he one of the globalists?

        I know it hurts, but one of these days 1488ers will have to admit that it was the weak men of the west who gave the reins of power away to women and betas. Jews have become a scapegoat for 1488ers to absolve themselves of all responsibility, and sublimate their anger towards an external bogeyman.

        No more. We must take responsibility for our failures, and the failures of our fathers. We gave power away to those who never earned it or were in any way suited for it, i.e. women and net tax drains on society.

        You want to return the USA and Europe into the bastions of glory that they once were?

        Restrict the franchise to net tax paying men. And stop fantasizing for a return of a failed philosophy, and damaging a movement that is the only hope for our survival by LARPing as SS officers and sieg heiling each other in public.

        I predict that this will damage the reputation of massive intellects such as Jared Taylor and Roger Devlin more than anything else. Ironically, Spencer made some excellent points during the media debriefs and he seems to have at least some ideas in common with the Trump right. But his childishness will do more harm than good to the Trump right in the long run.

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    • on November 22, 2016 at 1:49 pm Randy The Random

      CH, I have a very lengthy post stuck in moderation, please review it it if possible, I am interested in discussing this subject at length.

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  22. on November 22, 2016 at 9:04 am Laguna Beach Fogey

    Cernovich is jealous that Spencer is getting serious media attention.

    He won’t admit it, but that’s why he had a meltdown.

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    • I agree.

      But, I also think Spencer will be just a flash in the pan. I’ve been reading alt-right stuff forever and although he’s purportedly one of the progenitors, I never found him interesting enough to read. So once he gets sick of playing the villain the media wants, he’ll retract. He’s actually a bit too normal to commit to being the next David Duke – after a few Seig Heil videos he’ll be spent.

      Cernovich should take solace that he won’t get this type of press hit piece because he’s a more effective propagandist than Spencer… although Cernovich is quite obviously a self-promoter before anything else. Which is cool w/ me – when our interests align there’s nobody better.

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  23. Here’s the recorded live stream of the NPI conference from Red Ice:

    The press conference portion, starting at 3:40:45, is particularly good. CH readers will be very pleased with Spencer’s reply when some feeble ‘male’ journo tries the standard gotcha ‘why are there so few women here?’ and Spencer explains his view of women in the movement and the wider world.

    Also in the presser, Brimelow, who overall I greatly admire for his decades of dedication to our race, unfortunately punched right by ‘casting out’ Anglin from the movement, identifying him as Neo-nazi.

    Opinionator: take note. If Brimelow, one of our staunchest members, can make mistakes, your whole troll in this thread is a mistake.

    Also of particular interest at the Chateau, F. Roger Devlin gave an excellent talk about sex and race, starting at 5:51:00.

    [CH: thx for the link. devlin has been glowingly referenced in this blog many times.]

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    • Also in the presser, Brimelow, who overall I greatly admire for his decades of dedication to our race, unfortunately punched right by ‘casting out’ Anglin from the movement, identifying him as Neo-nazi.

      Opinionator: take note. If Brimelow, one of our staunchest members, can make mistakes, your whole troll in this thread is a mistake.

      There are mistakes and then there are mistakes.

      Moreover, Spencer has made them in multiples, not just during the past weekend itself, but before. He does not strike me as someone who is amenable to recognizing and learning from mistakes. It’s hard to work with that kind of temperament.

      Spencer has been given plenty of chances. Time to move on.

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      • on November 22, 2016 at 6:09 pm Randy The Random

        None of us like punching right. But when someone is doing better than a paid saboteur to destroy what we’ve worked so hard to build, what choice to we have?

        Why does Spencer call himself Alt-Right, and proceed to quote Hitler and use the Nazi salute in public? Doesn’t that make him just a good old fashioned Neo-Nazi?

        Why is he trying to conflate Nazism and the Alt-right?

        I have already stopped referring to myself as an Alt-Right’er in public due to Spencer’s antics. I just call myself a Trump-right’er now.

        Spencer is a goddamn child playing with matches, and has no idea of the potential damage he can do to a Trump presidency and a Trump re-election in 2020.

        Unlike LARPing children, us adults understand this.

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  24. Claim: “Media will exploit [edgy alt-righter X] to discredit Trump” Reality: “Media will exploit [any alt-righter X] to discredit Trump”

    And their degree of success or failure will vary as a function of the comportment of the Alt Right.

    It’s over, CH. Time to cut our losses. Spencer has torpedoed himself, NPI, and, probably, the Alt Right as a brand name. You are great at reframing things, but there will be no coming back from the combination of Spencer’s past neo-Nazi statements and the vivid, unimpeachable visuals that he fed the media over the weekend. We all need to distance ourselves now from Spencer, and, unfortunately, the umbrella term, “Alt Right.” It didn’t have to happen.

    Spencer should resign from NPI, by the way.

    I write the above assessment as someone who has defended privately, in real life, almost every single one of Trump’s “gaffes” since he announced. I cannot defend what Spencer has said and done.

    [CH: you’re overreacting bigly. regular people won’t be scandalized by what was obviously a goofy gesture by buddies who had a few. the media will throw hysterics, but then when don’t they throw hysterics when they encounter a free thinker off the reservation?]

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    • regular people won’t be scandalized by what was obviously a goofy gesture by buddies who had a few.

      We shall see. I don’t think it is so obvious that was going on. And even if such a perception were to prevail, it has been my observation over a number of years that people aren’t disposed to be dismissive of such gestures or role playing, even when they are done in jest. At best, it shows poor judgment and a childishness that few of us wish to be associated with. This is a time for steely-eyed discipline.

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      • on November 22, 2016 at 6:12 pm Randy The Random

        I have to agree with Opinionator on all accounts.

        We are dealing with real politics now, not 4chan memes. Spencer may have doomed us all.

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    • It’s over, CH. Time to cut our losses. Spencer has torpedoed himself, NPI, and, probably, the Alt Right as a brand name
      I cannot defend what Spencer has said and done
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      Who asked you defend anything asshole
      For the rest of you who joined (((media))) in attacking Spencer and screaming Nahzi one would expect better or perhaps not
      Spencer did not say anything that is not true and while leftoids are attacking brutally anybody wearing any of Trump insignia, while the agitprop hits even harder than in pre-Trump days, you knowingly or unknowingly join the rank with the enemy sputtering 60 years old nonsense
      It was to be expected that first line of the attack will be divide and that their agents will be asshole of (((opinionator))) kind

      fuck you asshole

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  25. Mike Enoch says he was the one who got the stiff-arms up at NPI. Good for him. Fuck you concern trolls. No punching right.

    https://radio.therightstuff.biz/2016/11/22/the-daily-shoah-112-its-just-how-we-wave-hello/

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    • Spencer and NPI are radioactive now. Congratulations.

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      • Oh do fuck off
        Spencer like Trump are not ideal and have flaws but they are a step in the right direction.
        Trump for now is not going to ‘lock her up’ and no mention of the wall on his video yesterday.
        It’s a step by step and brings publicity to nationalism.
        Never seen Milo speak but the BBC reposted an interview he did a few weeks ago and he crushed it particularly regarding political correctness.
        We need Spencer and the NPI…we need Milo. All under a common umbrella.
        Two years ago we had Stormfront to moan on with no action going on. Desperate times . Now we have all this.

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