There were a couple of very hot women in my science/math classes 30 years ago in college. But that was a different era, pre societal meltdown. College was still mostly men, affordable, and full of intelligent, decent people.
The women might not have been pretty or thin, but they were sweet and feminine. I knew several of the athletes and that applied to them as well.
We were aware of feminism, but it was rarely discussed or cared about. Fags were not celebrities and the sex changers were recognized as mentally ill.
We can get back to that but it’s going to take an effort by regular folks. When someone starts spouting bullshit, call them on it. Laugh at their attempts to shame you. I tell them to “stop lying”.
“Sigh,” indeed. I’m a child of the ’80s myself, a consummate Gen-Xer, born in ’75, and God how I miss those days. Even Clintigula’s ’90s were wholesome in comparison to the degenerate freak show of a country we have today. And the early ’90s was essentially an extension of the ’80s with Reagan’s right-hand man, GHWB in office.
I never though I’d feel nostalgic for the Clinton years, but I do.
Reagan also did “Presidential Fitness”, which was a million times better than Michelle Obama’s watered down “play 60” trying to get modern obese kids to at least go outside. Boys had to do 8 pullups. I TRAINED to be able to do that, did it, and there has never been a day in my life since I was 10 years old that I could not do 8 pullups, all the way down, all the way up, smooth, not using jerking the legs momentum. In fact, since the age of 21, there has not been a day when I could not do 20 pullups in one set, with my PR being 28. I’m 42 years old. #winning.
> a couple of very hot women in my science/math classes” ——— YEP. “The women might not have been pretty or thin, but they were sweet and feminine.” ——— YEP. I remember ‘sweet and feminine’ as if it were frigging yesterday. No sarcasm. No snark. No uptalk. No vapidity. No mudsharkery. No antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea. No personal sex channels at XHamster/Redtube/Pornhub. No tats. No Lena Dungheap. Chicks still had pubes…
Amen. I simply cannot stand the shaved look. I want women to look like women, not something the prophet Mohammed would have sex with. Some trimming is fine. Shaving it all off? Why would you want to look like a 9 year old, women?
I do. But too few who are aware of realtalk do. And even more disheartening, very few men today are even aware of realtalk. They got a communist brainwashing hardcore from the state since 1990 and 95% of them are pussy faggots, obviously.
Hilarious! The feminist hags love to flock to the academically bogus and lightweight “gender studies” courses to learn how to bitch about how much they are oppressed by not taking the harder course, such as things in the sciences.
A) The Gullible Patsy: This group accounts for the vast majority of women who still consider themselves feminists. These women have completely bought into the bogus feminist mantra of “we don’t need men”. These are the women who are destined to become either, married to men they end up despising, mentally unstable spinsters or frustrated single mothers. Single mothers who, ironically, can only survive with state help, such as child care, income support, housing benefits and numerous other state handouts. Handouts that they conveniently fail to grasp, come mostly from men! That’s right, the majority of tax revenue comes from men and the majority of tax spending goes on women. So in truth, these women are still leaching off the productivity of men, the only difference is that they are now doing their leaching by proxy.
B) The True Believer: This group consists of women who harbour serious psychological resentments towards men. Their ranks include women with daddy issues or women who have been raised by single mothers with daddy issues. They also include lesbians and, ironically, over-masculine women who secretly resent the fact that they were not born a man. The thing that drives all of these male-phobic women, is there deep seated, and in many cases, pathological hatred of men and all things masculine. These are the women who would quite happily see men put into concentration camps or publicly castrated for even daring to question the validity of their victimhood cult. These are the women, who make it their life’s work, to toxify relations between ordinary men and women.
C) The Cynical Opportunist: This group contains both men and women who use feminism as a means to improve some aspect of their lives. They consist of various self-serving and unscrupulous narcissists, including Celebrities, Journalists and Politicians, who exploit the anti-male rhetoric of feminism in an attempt to further their own careers. Also included in this group, are the lowest form of feminist life; The White Knight – The Manginas – The Supplicating creepy men who believe [erroneously] that selling out their own gender will garner them access to intimacy and sex from women. These men really have no idea of the utter contempt women actually hold them in. These are the men that are destined to be robbed of all they have, including their children, in a future divorce court or humbled, humiliated and ruined via a maliciously falsified rape accusation.
Although there is certainly room for some overlap, these are the basic three Wise Monkeys of Feminism.
Well, Libtards are tards. Licensed concealed carry has been legal on campus for years….you just couldn’t enter the buildings. All the law did was extend carry into the buildings. Of course, no law ever stops illegal or unlicensed carry so these idiots are more worried about law abiding citizens who have had background checks than criminals and psychos.
I have observed and worked with women in a number of different STEM fields….and I am also deeply involved in education. Oddly, my top group of STEM students are mostly girls (real proud of them, too). A few observations:
(Note….people exist in a bell curve…there is a portion of women that excel in STEM fields and a portion of men who suck at it. The point, though, is that most women are not wired for STEM and most men are.)
Female engineers still tend to work socially rather than technically. They tend to be fairly successful not due to technical know-how but through their well-honed social acumen. **They trade in the currency of other people’s ideas.** They are consensus builders. Engineering by engineered democracy. Its the same game the sluts play, but with jet engine designs.
The [average] woman struggles with the hard linearity of math and science while a small portion take to it like you wouldn’t believe. The male brain is wired to devour structural engineering, but male testosterone has a hard time sitting still. We must build that shit, not just study it. Women on the tail end of the bell curve have the wiring AND the temperament to be better than the average man at the pure mathematics and science. However, they tend to not grasp the practical side in any way.
I might know of two women in STEM who is both a scientific genius AND knows her way around a machine shop or bulldozer….and I only know *of* them. Never met them or worked with them.
Most attractive female engineers in top positions got there by being pretty. Its just a fact. The average hot number in a design meeting is playing at a lower level technically, but this is excused enthusiastically. Her very mediocre contributions are received well by the betas who think that agreeing heartily with her quite obvious statement will get them a whiff of her panties after hours. After TRP, I cringe sooo hard seeing these women interact with my co-workers. They are friend-zoned so hard you can measure it on the Rockwell scale.
Women just cannot deal with leadership. Crises and challenges cause the clever ones to turn to superior technical know-how and the go-grrrrl ones to fly the plane into the ground. They think that five gears of being the golden girl leading the design team that’s normally on auto-pilot means she can power-strut into a technical crisis where feelings-hurting decisions need to be made. The reality is not pretty.
She will still be excused because those paying her are also hoping for a ride.
90% of workplace drama has a woman involved. Every. Single. Time. A STEM company without hot ass around is a bunch of dudes building cool shit and pragmatically criticizing each other. Women make this impossible. No one wants to criticize for fear of her thinking you aren’t a nice guy. No one wants to be criticized because then she won’t fuck you cause you’re a loser.
An engineering meeting with a hot woman in it is a bunch of dudes being perfectly mediocre because the only thing more important than building a fighter jet is fucking Ashley in Avionics.
I estimate that a woman’s desire to break into an all-male organization is about 60% wanting the thrill of being the center of all that male attention. Plus about 30% wanting jealousy from other women for “breaking boundaries”, about 9% the perverse thrill of ruining something that men enjoy & 1% desire to contribute to the actual goal of that group.
I’m sure the attention of being a sex object for so many half-high status guys (betas that build cool shit) is most of it. You can see it in how they dress. Female office attire is pornographic at times. Slacks that look like pants only when she’s standing perfectly straight. Any lean, and its all cheeks. The cleavage……I’ve seen two HR rep’s boobs in all their glory with a little lean.
The panty lines. The panty hems. The stripper heels.
love me some office attire. most of the women in our office look pretty dumpy but there are a couple who know how to do it right.
even if they don’t acknowledge it openly, they have to feel all the stares and raised heartbeats as they walk by our desks or wander into the break room while we eat. we’ll be chatting to each other in messenger about the tight skirts or low cut blouses that they’re wearing as they walk by. we talk about bending this girl or that one over a desk or sneaking away into the storage closet for an afternoon romp.
wouldn’t get involved with anyone at work myself but knowing what we’re all thinking about these girls, i sure as hell wouldn’t want mine working in an office full of men all day looking like that.
I went to a university that was almost entirely Engineering, architecture, science, and industrial design. Many of the women were there because there were very few women. Ten to one male to female ratio.
Women in engineering (especially in structural engineering) are total disaster and heavy burden for those who have to endure structural cunts on daily basis
There are few who could do work but even those as you mentioned have zero practical understanding of what they have calculated/analyzed
But what you will never encounter is a STEM cunt who wants to learn something for its sake, for curiosity or for pure desire of learning
That is why even those few are in the final analysis mediocre following the main trait of their gender which is the total impossibility to forget oneself in searching for new and unexplored, to aspire for something higher than their petty nature
For that reason alone (to not mention others) there has never and will never be(en) a woman genius
The mere presence of chics at these jobs slows everything down because MEETINGS. About shit that could be emailed. Which you will get in addition to the MEETINGS and FedEx packets of more useless paper. Just give the same project to a male team and a female team. Case closed permanently. Cheers
AX, also note what mkkby is saying above. Back in the day, even the nerd chicks were SWEET and FEMININE. And a few of them were actually hot. No snark. No Cluster-C or Passive-Aggressive undermining of you. By and large pleasant and well-mannered [except for some of the Eskimo-ess-es, obviously, but even they still wanted your Shegetz c0ck – you just didn’t reward them with it].
Quite a few are still pretty sweet. Girl I worked with recently was the definition of a quiet, hot churchmouse. Not typical, but they are still out there. They still play the game, but they aren’t in bitch mode.
No way is ANY chic better than the best man at basically ANYTHING. Math, cooking, building, child rearing. C’mon. Masculine /feminine dynamic is the rule of human interaction. I don’t need no fancy psyence degree to try an tell me diffrent
Worked in STEM and academics before moving on to International affairs.
Women in STEM were always in the middle, never in the top or bottom.
They were mostly hardworking and had impressive memory skills. However they lacked creative skills : totally unable to understand something unless it was explained to them, completely unable to take any decision either. But they would dig into the different options deeper than any man.
That’s just my own experience from 12 years in engineering. Maybe a different generation as well.
Great comment and thread here. It’s impossible not to flinch a bit when you’re trying to fit your frame into the “seat” on one of those connector flights and you get that female voice from the cockpit, “Hi, from the flight deck, this is Shannon.” I just know we’re gonna do a tail-stand like the gal in that twin-prop down in Carolina who flew it into the hangar, or maybe she’ll muff the landing and spin us into a cabbage patch.
Just remember to give thanks daily to the culture destroyers who brought you all this wonderful diversity and gender-freedom.
Most of the men have limited social lives or are married, thus are putty to the females. I was working in my cube and some mediocre chick came in and my cube mate called her “eye candy”. These guys are pathetic.
I should add to my comment that women can and do excel in Project Management, which is the direction many of them go in STEM fields. Project management is a people game and women are very good at it (sans the issue with leadership…..most women have a desire FOR authority [your desire will be for your husband….] but it really makes them deeply uncomfortable and unsatisfied to BE authority). A large number of high ranking female PM’s are on anti-depressants while the high-ranking executive assistants are happy as can be.
If anyone tells you that they know of tons of women who are doing great in a STEM field….ask if they are actually designing and building or just managing the actual designers and builders. You can manage a robotic gunsight design team without knowing really anything about PID stabilization of flight harmonic vibration down to microsecond precision.
yeah, and i saw one stopped like Greg Eliot in the first round ;by a farmer who simply diverted his irrigation ditch into the road, making a mudbath from which the over priced behemoth could not emerge.
The soldiers were forced to blow it up when the sun went down.
This is happening at my work. We deal with digital media and we’re having issues now that two developers left. Many of the people in charge, not the IT group, but our own dept’s group are women and they’re having difficulty explaining themselves. They get so flustered and then have to go “get coffee” to talk about why things aren’t getting done.
Those ladies are being led by other ladies that don’t know what’s going on. Our boss likes to invent shit to mirror the way she thinks it works, rather than taking time to SEE and GET how shit really works. She’ll ask my immediate supervisor for clarification. My supe tells her what’s what and the boss fights her on it, since it doesn’t match how she thinks it all should work.
Shit goes in circles with nothing done and my supervisor is fed up, knowing full well we have zero leadership.
> They get so flustered and then have to go “get coffee” to talk about why things aren’t getting done. ——— In the Steve Kroft interview on 60 Minutes the other night, that’s exactly what happened to QUOTA HIRE Barry Soebarkah Dunham – the sh!t started gettin real, and Barry had to jettison on Steve by saying, “Welp, I’m off to a Climate Change summit – y’all can deal with that mess in Syria – Adios! I’m outta here.”
It starts long before that, a lot of guys who like STEM are already dabbling with it before they get to uni, I don’t know any woman who is doing it in her own free time, even the ones who are in the field. Every time I see a link to something cool someone invented in their garage it turns out to be a man. It’s not like you need to enrol to a garage or that the garage “discourage” you or that there is inherent discrimination in the garage, it is just that women don’t want to do anything in the garage. Except from parking their car.
The window motor in my car burned out. Got a mechanic’s estimate, said [email protected] that, ordered a replacement on-line for a fifth of the price, watched a YouTube video of someone replacing a window motor on a kinda-similar car, spent a couple of hours dismantling my car door, replacing the defective motor, and putting everything back together.
My gf said “I would never do that.” I shrugged and said “yeah, it’s a y-linked trait.”
IME women are always lacking in the hands on experience. Both in school and professionally when I describe how something works by using examples, common machines and devices, I get dumb looks. They never took stuff apart! How can someone be an engineer without doing that? Worse is as time went on I started finding men like that. I call the lot of them “good at school” engineers. Their skill is school, institutional things. No Knack. Very little exception.
Years ago, Sweden offered huge incentives for women to enter STEM and men to enter more female orientated occupations like nursing. The experiment was successful initially then faded back to pre-existing norms much to the surprise and dismay of feminists.
Can I say (as a male) that Science and Math has always bored the pants off me: there is a wall ten feet distant, the wall is ten feet high; at what angle do you need to throw your javelin so as to just clear the top of the wall? Yawn.
What women are crap at is The Arts: being women, all they do is parrot what they have been told. Had Art been left to women we would still be in the stone age (but with nicely polished stones). Had you not heard, women have been kept out of The Arts by the Patriarchy?
> “Pre-civilisation the rule of adapt or die seems to apply, but under civilisation the rule becomes degenerate or die.” ——— UKIP, the degenerates DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. They are unbreeding themselves out of existence. The “adaptation” is to return to your Tradcon Christian roots and turn your back on all of this nihilism and HAVE FUN MAKING BABEEZ!!!
It’s because there are a lot of Indian men in STEM. Since white women hate Indian (and Pakistani) men, they avoid STEM fields.
[CH: women avoid stem because women have differently wired brains than men. in general, women are ill-disposed to math-related subjects. simple as that.]
I noticed that in the UK, white British women have a strong aversion to Indian and (more especially) Pakistanis. A lot of white British women like Afro-Carribean men though. I also noticed that Oriental/Chinese men do a bit better than Indians/Pakis.
There is absolutely no economic reason for a white american kid who is smart enough to be an engineer to be an engineer in today’s society. Today’s society has greater rewards for such a person in other fields. Fields which take a lot less effort.
Everything our corporate state does to promote engineering is to keep salaries down. If they wanted white american kids to be engineers all they have to do is cancel the H1B Visa program. The rewards and opportunity in being an engineer would go up to make it worth something again. But instead they try to flood it with women and foreigners and keep salaries lower than they should be compared to what the same people can expect to earn in other fields.
science requires spending time alone, thinking. i have never heard young women debate scientific topics out of interest or as a leisure activity. I wonder if women might be disinclined to do anything that in some way restricts their desire to be social and be seen by men and certainly studying science would do that. further, strangely, scientific and technical jargon seems to completely scare them off even though they have their own technical jargon that usually relates to something more socially known such as celebrities or clothing.
The hallmark of the feminist agitator is having no real-world experience in the job market; the goal of every SJW is to procur funding to continue their fight for social justice. The women clamoring about alleged mistreatment of women in tech do not have technical backgrounds and don’t work in tech. But they need money to correct “the problems”. Hence they create phony women’s advocacy structures such as STEM education initiatives (which need SJW to manage) and coding bootcamps for girls (which need SJWs to administer). And it’s big money. SJWs and race hustlers have blackmailed major corporations into payolas to buy the silence and approval of the SJW mobs. For the millions being spent no tangible benefits will be realized by either the corporation or the purported victims.
the goal of every SJW is to procur funding to continue their fight for social justice.
That right there is the truth.
The older I get (mid 40s now) the more I understand nearly everything gets corrupted by money. Just ignore what ppl say and follow the money. It’s the Jedi mind trick to understanding all human motivations.
Same as with blacks – easier to whine and destroy, than think and create. I think that is why so many women supported the Civil Wrongs movement, because they liked the idea of supporting another group that also cannot compete with White males.
“Masculinity isn’t toxic, doesn’t cause mass killings and it doesn’t need to be reimagined or rethought. Furthermore, this “masculinity is bad” mentality is driven by failed “men” and more importantly, liberal feminists. These women want men to be easily-controlled, neutered lapdogs and then they wonder why they keep getting bored with beta eunuchs who are supposedly everything they want. “
I was proud of my (now ex) wife when she got her bachelor’s degree in mathematics with a minor in physics.
Of course 2 years and one kid later she demanded an “open marriage”, which consisted of her facebooking 8 hours a day, complaining about how she had to work 2 days a week, and shagging other men, while I worked, went to school full time and did ALL the house work. She’s never worked in math or science, and is now devoted to fighting the patriarchy by becoming a sex coach teaching women that self love and free sex will make them happy. In this socio-politocal climate the vast majority of women are worthless in both relationships and the workplace.
I was so proud of my [now ex-] wife when she graduated with her bachelor’s of mathematics, with a minor in physics. It was tough but she did it.
Fast-forward… we had a beautiful baby boy and I’m pursuing my master’s degree in acupuncture. She demands an open relationship. In a year she’s gone from a n-count of 1, to n-count=8. Facebooks all day, never cooks, never cleans, complains about working 2-3 days a week, can’t stop texting her lovers to put our son to bed. Even as beta as I was I couldn’t take it.
She’s never worked in math or science and has now dedicated her life to “helping women” by fighting the patriarchy and becoming a sex coach-teaching self-love and free sex is the path to happiness.
Contemporary women in this socio-political climate are totally worthless in relationship and in business.