Girlfriend Or Fling? Holiday Edition

It’s a Very Special Christmas Girlfriend or Fling.

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This photo looks like an advertisement for Peroni, the Miller Lite of Italian beer, but it is in fact an actual nightclub shot.

Most Northeast Asian girls (Japan, China, Korea) are good girlfriend material.  They are more monogamously inclined than other races of women, save the Finns and Irish.  Ten randomly chosen Asian girls in relationships will have fewer cheaters amongst them than ten randomly chosen girls in relationships from different geographic regions of the world.  Based on this, my initial assessment is that the Asian in this photo has solid girlfriend potential.  However, closer inspection reveals details to the contrary that give pause.  One, the hand draped effortlessly over the guy.  Two, left boob contact with his arm.  Three, forehead to forehead contact.  Four, a slightly forward-thrust pelvic area.  Five, slouching… my unquestionable opinion is that slouchy girls are sexually looser than girls with good posture.  Six, the bedroom eyes… in a nightclub.  Seven, she’s not wearing any breast support.  Those mangos are hanging low on the tree and begging to be plucked.

If this guy is not her boyfriend, (and judging by that hammy look on his face, I’d guess not), then the Asian girl is clearly a fling.

The girl on the right has too much blush on her cheeks which screams dirty little tramp.  As the wisdom of the grandmothers says:  Ladies pinch, whores rouge.  She is showing the bottom row of teeth in her smile, which is a leading indicator of sluttiness.  Her voluminous cleavage reinforces my impression.   Also, she’s allowing the guy to wedge his leg into her crotch.  She’s riding his left leg like a mechanical bull.  Total fling.  Her saving grace might be that she looks like a hapa (half-asian, half-white… wasian) which should help keep her slutty urges in check by the forces of faithfulness.  I like the fact that she is not wearing dangly earrings.  Her minimal accessorizing speaks well of her.  I’d be tempted to give a girl like this a chance to become a member of my stable of regulars except that she looks six months pregnant.  Any girl swollen with that much baby should not be in a nightclub — she should be home learning how to crochet blankets or playing Beethoven to boost her fetus’s IQ.

If she is not pregnant, then she needs to jump on a treadmill instead of going out drinking.  If that is fat, I feel bad for her.  I’ve never seen a girl put weight on like a middle-aged man with a beer gut.  Did she swallow a keg?  If she’s not pregnant, and that is not a beer belly, then the only explanation left is that she is uncomfortably arching her back so her stomach and ass protrude for maximum attention-getting.  Which brings us back to total fling.

I like the guy’s shirt.  I bet he’s saying to her “Heeeeeey, how YOU doin’?”





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  1. I think it’s her vest, hanging from that “voluminous” cleavage, that is creating the illusion of tummy.

    And that guy is gay….or European. No straight American male would ever wear that nightmare of a shirt.

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  2. she’s gotta be preggers. go home.

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  3. That’s not blush. That’s the alcohol flush common among Asians on the girl on the right. She’s been drinking a little too much. That dude’s shirt is the ugliest piece of apparel I’ve seen in a long time. Do you have a closet full of that stuff?

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  4. Oh, and that dude is playing the spiritual angle. He’s got mala around his neck and that’s prob sanskrit with “ohm” printed all over it. Fugly but effective.

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  5. you can’t judge how a girl is by how she is with a guy like that
    that guy is a douche and a half. (beta who wants to be alpha in your tongue) i have guy friends, er, I know guys like that. i wouldn’t care if my forehead touched his or my boob rested on his arm because i don’t look at him sexually. sad but true

    most girls who go to nightclubs and ham it for cameras are fling material anyway. biased sample

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  6. As an Indian guy, things look up, maybe I should try to play the spiritual angle even if I don’t believe it (and I doubt the guy does either, since nightlife hedonism is pretty anti-moksha). Fantastic analysis.

    Remember, asian girls are now adjusting to white american standards. The question is: to what degree can cultural sluttiness offset genetic monogamy?

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  7. Asian girls are no more, no less faithful than any other girl from any other race.

    As a matter of fact, I’ve found that Asian girls are actually more flirty whether they were single or not.

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  8. Roissy,
    Normally I’ve got your back my freng but you are wrong about Asian women. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. I am in Japan right now and I can tell you that Japanese women (in Tokyo) are among the most morally bankrupt women in the world. They look sweet and act all innocent, but they are down. And to lump Chinese, Japanese, and Korean girls together based on personality in any way is apples and oranges and tomaters. The women from each country couldn’t be more different.

    Ten randomly chosen Asian girls in relationships will have fewer cheaters amongst them than ten randomly chosen girls in relationships from different geographic regions of the world.

    I never would have known that sooooooo many married women/women with boyfriends had shit going on on the side if I hadn’t seen it (done it) for myself or heard them talk about their friends who are doing it. Infidelity is rampant. They’re just way better at covering it up and lying about it, especially in Japan where being fake and not showing how you really feel is something they do from when they’re kids.

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  9. ps. I agree with your assessment that the girl on the right is hapa. And this is probably why she’s red.

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  10. I am in Japan right now and I can tell you that Japanese women (in Tokyo) are among the most morally bankrupt women in the world.

    That is because Japanese men are rather lackluster, to put it kindly. I’ve read a lot of complaining by women in Japan with respect to the coldness of Japanese men, who practically view women as slaves. I assume you are a European-descent or a white man, and I honestly don’t blame these women for falling all over themselves trying to get your attention. Even your denigration of their moral character is better treatment than what they are used to, which is far worse.

    And to lump Chinese, Japanese, and Korean girls together based on personality in any way is apples and oranges and tomaters. The women from each country couldn’t be more different.

    Culturally speaking, Asian American women are less different from each other than native women from each of these countries. I have had Asian American friends from Vietnam, Korea and Taiwan who share my (Chinese American) views on a variety of subject matters. First generation Asian women hold on to more traditional viewpoints, but not the second or third generation. We still have a common experience of being constantly perceived as outsiders, so that makes us feel less self-entitlement, which probably contributes to the stereotype that Asian Americans are “self-hating.”

    Many Asian American women want to settle down with men who treats her well. The perception is that Caucasian men do treat women better than the Asian men, who expect Asian woman to conform to traditional roles even though they are no longer in Asia. I would say that Asian American women are more inclined toward long-term relationship and marriage. Anecdotally, all of the Asian women who are over 30 at my work are married. Furthermore, there exists a very strong cultural bias among Asians against promiscuity, as this lowers an Asian woman’s value in an Asian man’s eyes. Unconsciously Asian women still abide by this rule.

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  11. From a typographic standpoint on your blog you shouldn’t type two spaces after your periods in your text; this is just a completely friendly suggestion to make your text easier to read! The reason we were taught to type two spaces in is because typewriters made every space letters took up exactly the same width so there was a need to put an extra space at the end to make it clear and separated, but with computerized type and automatic customized spacing there is no need for it and it’s redundant. It makes your text have too many white holes in it and it’s harder for your eye to follow along. Great blog!

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  12. The strange thing in all these comments is that no one has noted how neither girl is that attractive. The asian is a high 6 at best, and the fat one — be it due to pregnancy or otherwise — isn’t cracking the 50th percentile. If that’s what your stable looks like, Roissy, you may want to consider letting them run free.

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  13. Even your denigration of their moral character is better treatment than what they are used to, which is far worse.

    That’s a little dramatic… They don’t have it THAT bad, and one can respond to their situation by means other than fucking around on their husband/boyfriend.. A lot of it also has to do with the fact that Japanese tend to be very needy (click this: amae), and because individuality isn’t valued in society here, maybe getting made air tight by the staff at their english school makes women feel a little more relevant.

    But you’re pretty much right about marriage — the reason Japan is getting its women stolen by foreign barbarians is more because the foreigners are more willing to approach women and talk to them, make them laugh, show em a good time, actually talk to them, etc, whereas Japanese men typically have no game to speak of and are socially awkward around women. Most Japanese “game” is shameless pawing, retarded conversations, and shameless cockblocking. The .05% of Japanese guys who have game completely clean house. I used to work in a club in Shibuya and loved watching the difference in how Japanese, roundeye, (and occasionally Africans) work a scene.

    Furthermore, there exists a very strong cultural bias among Asians against promiscuity, as this lowers an Asian woman’s value in an Asian man’s eyes.

    Yeah, that’s why hymen reconstruction is biiig business in Korea. Right now there are thousands and thousands of men in Korea who think they married a virgin. Japanese aren’t particularly concerned about that though, as they generally take a much more “head in the sand” approach to dealing with problems. They’d rather just not know.

    Maybe morally bankrupt was a little harsh. Morally unmoored might be better. 🙂

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  14. Are the man’s beads a gang symbol? I believe black and yellow beads are a Latin Kings symbol, maybe these red beads are for another gang. Or maybe they’re just beads.

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  15. on December 7, 2007 at 5:44 am InterestedParty

    “’d be tempted to give a girl like this a chance to become a member of my stable of regulars except that she looks six months pregnant. ”

    Please dude. Don’t pretend that you wouldn’t bang that girl if given (half) the chance. Yeah maybe she has a little gut (hard to tell if it’s fat or clothes), but she’s still pretty attractive. You’re anonymous so there’s no point in jacking up your “standards”. 🙂

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  16. that’s not blush.. the girl on the right is cursed (asian curse w/ drining)

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  17. The guy in the picture is fugly! You talk much shit roissy. Would love to see what you look like. Is that you in the picture? LOL.

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  18. Anon # 12 you sound like one of those guys who shelters his inability behind impossibly high “standards”. And/or you’re one of those guys who has a knee-jerk one-upsmanship mentality. Which is it? Either way you haven’t had a girlfriend in years right?

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  19. I agree that purporting to have super-high standards is often a face-saving maneouver.

    I’ll add that many women just don’t photograph that well in spontaneous pics. An example that comes to mind for me is a couple of girls at my present and previous jobs who are unquestionably pretty, even “hot,” but looked like crap in photos of company parties or picnics.

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  20. In defense of Anon #12, the only thing the one on the left has going for her is that she’s Asian, which only matters if you’re into Asians. She’s not really good looking.

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  21. OH SHIT did Hope actually make a comment that was relevant and had something to do with the topic?!?! MY little girl is alls growns up! I’m proud

    In my humble opinion Japanese women are hot like Karate like Ms. Universe on Pageant girls. But to this day the hottest Asian I’ve ever seen was that chick in Rambo 2… nah mean.

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  22. anon #12 hasn’t gotten laid in 8 years

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  23. Lisa – “Impossibly high”? Yes, if you consider a street curb an insurmountable edifice. I wouldn’t fuck either of those girls with your dick.

    The raving tenor of your post — in which you defend two women you’ve never met by making demented insinuations about someone else you’ve never met — suggests that you’re not exactly underwear model material yourself, are you?

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  24. In defense of Anon #12, the only thing the one on the left has going for her is that she’s Asian, which only matters if you’re into Asians. She’s not really good looking.

    Compared to the typical Caucasian standard of beauty she doesn’t really measure up. However, she’s good looking for an Asian girl. She seems to emulate the typical Asian celebrity look with long, dyed hair and girlish facial features.

    As an aside, I saw a video recently of Lee Hyori (a famous Korean singer) next to Jessica Alba. Some interesting commentary here about who looks better. Maybe it’s the self-hatred coming through, but when I first read the post I thought it said “Hyori looks like a plain jane next to Jessica Alba,” rather the other way around.

    They don’t have it THAT bad

    I don’t know. From the interviews it sounds like the Japanese women have really bad lovers. You try having being stuck in a frigid relationship with a girlfriend or wife who makes you feel like you’re worthless, comes home extremely late, never talks to you, then is horrible in bed. Japan’s fertility rate is one of the lowest among developed nations, which is sad because they don’t have a one-child per family policy, but they’re practically living it.

    MY little girl is alls growns up! I’m proud

    I live to please, naturally.

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  25. Which is why you will see many Japanese women participating in the Thai sex industry by getting serviced by Nigerian gigolos while their husbands go to the Thai whores. Fascinating.

    But Rushton has some theories that make it very obvious as to why Asian men are less attractive.

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  26. The young woman on the right is pregnant, not fat. Probably well into her last trimester, too. If the bulge were fat, she would have a fatter face, and the bulge itself would be less noticeable because the rest of her body would be fat as well. Only impending motherhood gives that kind of hard, round (as opposed to large and squashy) belly, and swells out the top part of the cleavage in that way.

    I suspect both these girls are both very pretty if perhaps not perfectly beautiful young women, and that the photo doesn’t do them justice.

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  27. on December 7, 2007 at 4:57 pm Weatherman Says

    Hope — I dunno about that. Lee Nyori is hott! I think Hyori is also a more natural beauty than Jessica Alba, whose features always seem puckered.

    There are a lot of pics of Hyori out there, but here is one the guys will like. As for white features being more attractive, well, to quote from Seinfeld, stand in line at the Motor Vehicles Dept. sometimes and look around.

    Kyori:

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  28. the pregnant woman looks pretty good imho.

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  29. vk – i hear you brotha! she gets taken down in the jungle though….

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  30. Hello anon! What can I say, I just thought those are two genuinely lovely ladies. No implication you look bad. It’s your attitude.

    No I’m definately not underwear model material by any stretch. You don’t have to take my word for it, here’s me in all my glory:

    I was going to put this up anyway to make a different point about guys who love asians. I get mistaken for a hapa, usually by asians themselves like happened at the bank right before I took this pic an hour ago. Then there’s the guys who come up (or run me off the road on the freeway), ask for my number, and then ask what my ancestry is. You know what that means, it means oh shit, you might as well tear that up because I’m about to be truthful and you’re not going to call. What, you’re just an overweight white woman? Basically.

    Asian lovers are faithful god bless em.

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  31. Here’s my baby in all her glory… Julia Nickson Soul

    Holy shit, she ws in that movie Side Kicks and Double Dragon the movie… baby girl is a worker

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  32. *giggle*

    what? he’s funny.

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  33. Hope are you kidding me? Japanese women have it so bad? Maybe because Japanese men haven’t castrated themselves and bent over backwards to suck up and give up all self-respect like American men have. You know, they actually are MEN. In our country, women have all the social power and they act entitled and spoiled, with entirely unrealistic expectations. Japan is a wealthy country. Why the fuck does a Japanese man need “game”? Your husband isn’t supposed to be “good in bed”. He’s supposed to provide for you. I’m sure the Japanese women are better off than in many parts of the world, and your rationalizing of their promiscuous behavior is surprising.

    Who are the most monogamous American (white) girls? Irish? Jewish? Southern?

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  34. Hope are you kidding me? Japanese women have it so bad?

    I’m not Japanese, so maybe I’m speaking out of line here. But I do have a bit of background on Japanese culture and have done a bit of research into Japanese women’s experiences. In my opinion, yes, they do have it bad, not in absolute terms (victims of systematic rape in Africa would take the crown in “having it bad”), but in relative terms. I am not saying they are really suffering. What I am saying is that their behavior is not unexpected.

    Japanese men haven’t castrated themselves and bent over backwards to suck up and give up all self-respect like American men have. You know, they actually are MEN.

    Japanese men don’t castrate themselves and also being don’t say I love you. On the satisfaction of people in various countries with their sex lives, the survey reports that the Japanese rank last. The Japanese also have sex the least number of times per year. You might believe this to be manly behavior, but I disagree.

    Japan is a wealthy country. Why the fuck does a Japanese man need “game”?

    Japan is a wealthy country that isn’t keen on breeding. The researchers who ran the Durex survey theorized that it is because Japan is a male-dominated society where the men don’t really care about their partner’s satisfaction. Also, according to this article, “many Japanese men soon after marriage start regarding their wives as a mother or sister—too close to have sex with. And their wives tend to accept it, observing how their fathers treated their mothers.”

    I’m sure the Japanese women are better off than in many parts of the world, and your rationalizing of their promiscuous behavior is surprising.

    Why does it surprise you? Neither men nor women regularly go against their biological impulses. As a fervent believer in evolutionary psychology, I don’t justify behaviors — I prefer to analyze the reasons that underpin them. In many instances the reasons seem amoral or immoral, but human morality draws no hard and fast lines. Quick example: polygamy existed for many years in Asia, though it is no longer widely practiced. My rationalizing of their behavior is descriptive, not prescriptive. Don’t be so quick to judge.

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  35. “Your husband isn’t supposed to be ‘good in bed’. He’s supposed to provide for you.”

    Yeeeaaaa good luck with that….

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  36. Am I missing something? If she’s just going to be part of a “stable”, then who cares if she’s girlfriend or fling material? In fact fling is probably better. Girlfriends expect respect, commitment, fidelity, yadda yadda. Also if you are not faithful to the girlfriend & she is just one of many, the moral high ground is lost and she will not feel guilty about messing around with other guys on the side, in fact will feel justified in doing so & in keeping her options open. Fling girls are less of a headache.

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  37. Jeff-

    Japanese men are hardly “alphas”, and do you thnk everyone is running around with a grip of cash to swoon women? Japan is wealthy, but the salaries of young people are much lower than in the states and the cost of living is ridiculously high. the average person deals with a much lower quality of living than people in the same age/education group in the states does, and have waaay less free time. it’s not uncommon for women in their late 20s to live at home so they can “save money”, but women are usually buying vuitton bags and going on hawaii trips blowing their cash and hoping to get swept off their feet while the guys are broke in an efficiency apartment working until 1am every night.

    trust me, japanese women act entitled and are spoiled too, especialyl those in their mid-late 20s who grew up during the economic prosperity of the 80s.. and they are way more materialistic than american women.

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  38. umm… the girl on the right looks cursed (asian drinking)

    and she’s pregnant?

    WTF?

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  39. isn’t japanese culture really different from ours? like the men work to death and a lot of women are in the sex/geisha industry?
    i think they have a really different view on monogamy and marriage from ours. at least that’s what i’ve heard.

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  40. on December 9, 2007 at 3:03 am InteresedParty

    Here’s a great article from USAToday on what a lot of Japanese women are going through:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-06-02-japan-women-usat_x.htm

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  41. Is there any girlfriend material in that sort of nightclub?

    The guy is trying to use his South Asian ethnicity to bed some flaky Yoga-loving girl who would likely hang out at that place. She gets to brag about how she boosted her multicultural quotient to her dopey girlfriends, while he gets easy sex.

    Ain’t civilization grand?

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  42. interested party — the magazine AERA cited in that article is a “weekly”, which are pulp. they have all the candals and weird sexual stories found in japan. It’s considered pretty trashy stuff in Japan with little credibility, but fun to read nonetheless.

    Mainichi Daily has a little place where a lot of them are translated. Enjoy:

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/culture/waiwai/

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  43. on December 9, 2007 at 2:39 pm Weatherman Says

    Did everyone read the USA Today article to which Interested Party linked? It’s from 2004 and looks at issues that happened in Japan a while back that are happening here now and talked about on this blog.

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  44. on December 9, 2007 at 2:41 pm Weatherman Says

    From the article:

    “And so, to an astonishing degree, men and women go their separate ways — the women to designer boutiques and chic restaurants with their girlfriends or moms, the men to karaoke clubs with their colleagues from work or the solitude of their computer screens to romance hassle-free virtual women.”

    What was it we had been saying about sex bots replacing women?

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  45. Is there any girlfriend material in that sort of nightclub?

    No, but short-term “girlfriend” vs. long-term “girlfriend to maybe become wife” are two different subject matters. The short-term girlfriend is like a 6-month lease to make the man temporarily stop worrying about the next dry spell, and the club girl meanwhile satisfies the looking good criteria, because she probably won’t stop going out with her friends.

    What was it we had been saying about sex bots replacing women?

    Apparently in Japan, neither men nor women “need” each other anymore. In many cases in the U.S., too, young men are increasingly using porn to replace female companionship and video games to replace human interaction. It’s definitely about minimizing hassle — dealing with other people is mostly a PITA.

    To paraphrase Anonymous in #36, girls are a headache.

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  46. that article from japan is nuts!

    stuff is pretty different in america than in japan, but i could see plenty of nerds just check out of life like that.

    legal drugs and prostitution in america is long overdue. most these losers would be very happy to fuck a hooker, smoke a bowl (or whatever) and blast away on warcraft for an entire weekend.

    hell, change warcraft to watching football and weed to booze and a hooker to a wife and you have like 80% of married men’s perfect weekend.

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  47. the woman on the right has her ass on backwards.

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  48. i’ve been with 3 men and i like wearing blush on my cheeks, and i also tend to slouch, but that doesnt make me a loose gal. you don’t know what you’re talking about! sheesh!

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  51. Roissy do you date girls like this?
    Is this what you guys in America consider to be good looking? they look like they have nice personalities,but certainly no more than that, find a better pic lol
    (only joking)

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  52. Roissy,
    This is a picture of a CSI Miami drug dealer and two sluts. WTF?

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