Beta Male Orbiter Pulls Out The Stops For His Oneitis, Is Rewarded With Public Humiliation

A hopelessly lovelorn beta male high school junior hired a pilot to fly a black helicopter over his school’s football field to drop a stuffed animal via parachute with a message attached for the girl he loves. The message asked her to a school dance.

(More precisely, his father, (who should have known better), a senior official with US Customs and Border Protection, hired the pilot. He can’t close our nation’s borders but at least he can close the vaginal borders of the girl his son loves.)

The girl, a kicker for the high school football team

and future lesbian, responded to her suitor’s romantical betatude with the sort of shiv twist that only young women still familiarizing themselves with the extent of their power over horny teen boys are capable of delivering.

“He knew it was my senior year, and I’ve been asked some pretty creative ways before this,” said Victoria Burress, 17, a soccer player and kicker for the football team. “Everyone thinks that we like each other, but it’s not like that at all. It’s just unusual to be that close with a guy and to have him still do something nice for you.”

I bet you felt the sting of that through your screen.

This is the kind of female id napalm that burns so cruelly, that is so publicly humiliating, and is consequently so very illuminating as a lesson for other young men, that the Washington Post, man-hating feminist shitlib bastion, couldn’t bring itself to publish the boy’s name (the paper claims they couldn’t verify the boy’s involvement. yeah right).

High school is a time to make these sorts of mistakes, so it’s easy to forgive this fledgling beta his ignorance of women’s sexual natures and his self-defeating gamelessness. But if a strong alpha male authority figure doesn’t lead him to the light, he risks falling into soulkilling and incel-ifying beta male patterns that will make his dating journey over the years that much more perilous. The time for high school boys to BUSTAMOVE in the ways of women is sooner rather than later.

To the younger men reading CH and still finding their way through the thickets of the sexual market: you don’t want to be that try-hard, overeager, starry-eyed beta male, struck with a severe case of oneitis, who hears that scrotally deflating “but it’s not like that at all” from any girl you like. You want to avoid that at all costs. You want to be the man who hears instead from girls, “I hope he likes me back”.

You can be that man by welcoming the Rude Word of CH into your life.


Commenter eyes open notices something funny in the girl’s quote:

It’s just unusual to be that close with a guy and to have him still do something nice for you.


Eh, too. My guess is the girl was misquoted or….

she unintentionally revealed a deep truth about the modern American dating market: girls don’t judge close friendships with boys based on how nice the boys are to them. Niceness isn’t a characteristic that girls value very highly as a measure of the closeness of their relationships.


  1. Wanna bet that some other beta (maybe a dad) contributed to this fiasco?


    • sounded like an idiot dad yeah. parental malpractice. especially these days. he probably was just glad his son’s not gay and got caught up in the moment

      girls like grand gestures in movies BECAUSE IT IS A MOVIE STAR MAKING THE GRAND GESTURE

      do not apply this garbage to your real life unless you want to hear “everyone thinks that we like each other, but it’s not like that at all”


      • Grand gestures work in movies because the script calls for the gesture to work. Two good-looking actors who film take after take until the director has in the can pretty much everything he imagines his largely female audience wants.


    • Um yeah – second paragraph.


  2. on September 21, 2015 at 10:00 am Captain Obvious

    The fundamental problem is that the father is hopelessly Beta. Which begs the question: If Border Patrol is now filled with koolaid-swallowing Beta yes-men [doubtless Churchians and similar vermin, who are just biding their time until their gubmint pensions are fully mature], then what hope is there for the broader community of [what ought to be] our “Oath Keepers”? We’re running out of time. The hourglass doesn’t have much sand left in it.


    • I’m sure the Border Patrol is the only LEA that’s filled with koolaid-swallowing Beta yes-men. Invading wetbacks get the soft touch, we Americans (who the other LEAs mostly deal with) get screaming and cursing JBTs to deal with. Anarcho-Tyranny.


      • on September 21, 2015 at 10:37 am Captain Obvious

        When Richard Matt and David Sweat escaped from that prison in upstate J00 York, I thought it was more than a little chilling that it was BORDER PATROL agents who were pulled back from the Canadian border and ordered to turn their weapons back around and point them towards Amurikkkans. Even given that the escapees were murderers, it still felt like a violation of Posse Comitatus.


      • on September 21, 2015 at 10:42 am Captain Obvious

        I’m still getting the hang of MPC sh!tlib-face/non-sh!tlib-face, but there’s something about try-hard fathers – who try to interfere with the internal politics of their sons’ USA football teams [not to be confused with europhag soccer teams] – something about those try-hard fathers that really gets under my skin. All of my warning bells go off when I see that shiznat.


      • on September 21, 2015 at 2:31 pm Obviously Cap'n

        Given everything we now know about the omnipotent power of Evo-Psych, that try-hard father in the Border Patrol has access to fully automatic weapons [definitely shiznat in the category of Uzi 9mm subs, and maybe even 50-caliber full auto weaponry]. If that dude were to snap and go into Beta White Knight rage mode, then lots of people could die.


      • on September 21, 2015 at 2:38 pm Obviously Cap'n

        It reminds me of those Secret Service agents down in Columbia who got caught purchasing prostitutes. In MPC terms, those dudes ought to be such Uber-Sh!tlords that they can just walk down the street and the ho’s will get so wet between the legs at the very sight of their Uber-Sh!tlordery that the ho’s will gladly give away the product for free. WTF kind of Betas have to pay for ho’s?


      • on September 21, 2015 at 2:43 pm Obviously Cap'n

        The other thing about try-hard fathers f*cking up their sons is that it turns a proper fasc!st Alpha like Prescott Bush into a Beta Schlub Loser like GHWB-41 who in turn produces an Unter-Gamma [email protected] like ¡El Jeb!.


      • captain obvious. you are totally right. i see it in colombia all the time. i used to have a bar. u.s military men. with hideus whales as wifes would come for a drink typical case would be : guy is fit , tall , blond and blue eyed. you dont understand whats wrong. then the guy comes alone later and you hear his speech. total omega. he ends up hiring a hooker from a nearby place. god thing there is the other side. the unaffected aloof negging foreigner, perhaps not as good looking as his mates, but getting free dance lessons , all the pussy and then some more. he doest not spend a dime, the hot chicks he gets, pay for his bill. it happened all the time, and i wondered what would happen to this guys if their superiors knew how bad or how good their game was.


      • Captain Obvious, stop replying to your own posts, and limit yourself to two posts per thread. You’re smearing shit all over the walls and it’s stinking up the place. Nobody wants to read mental diarrhea.


      • on September 22, 2015 at 6:40 am Obviously Cap'n

        Well, “Harland” is another Mossad initiative which will need a new screen name now. Dan, as regards “if their superiors knew how bad or how good their game was” – once the Betas and Gammas and outright S0d0mites [cf the new Army Sec] rise to power in these bureaucracies, they will DESTROY any underling who shows even the slightest hint of Alpha. It’s why the Eskimos had to assassinate Patton and neuter MacArthur.


      • on September 22, 2015 at 6:45 am Obviously Cap'n

        And G0d forbid that the Bulldykes should rise to power – at least the poor Betas can get the [email protected] trains to run on time. Once you get a Bulldyke [or a Quota Hire] at the top of one of these bureaucracies, you very quickly get East Germany’s Stasi [respectively Zimbabwe] for a work environment and unit efficiency and total production and whatnot.


      • I’m not a Mossad operative, you dumb fuck. I’m someone who doesn’t like to see crazy people smearing their crap all over the page from top to bottom. Nobody wants to read it. Stop doing it. You’re harming your own cause, if you were Mossad you couldn’t do a better job.


      • on September 22, 2015 at 9:38 am Captain Obvious

        In all seriousness, I am starting to get very worried about the physical safety of Li’l Paris Airport Dude. In just a few short years, he completely reverse-engineered The Master Code of Eskimo Psychiatry, and now he’s applying it to Big Picture Stuff, and that simply CANNOT BE ALLOWED. Assassination has been an extraordinarily powerful tool for the Eskimos over the years [Solzhenitsyn felt that the Eskimo assassination of Stolypin was the Great Singularity for Russia – the point of no return]. The Donald and Rush can afford bodyguards, but anonymous bloggers? Who would ever even know if, one night, the Mossad arranged for a bachelor blogger in his single apartment to never awaken from his sleep?


      • Captain Obvious, stop replying to your own posts, and limit yourself to two posts per thread. You’re smearing shit all over the walls and it’s stinking up the place. Nobody wants to read mental diarrhea.

        I’m not Captain Obvious, idiot.


      • Just double up on the meds, and that anxiety will go right away. Then again, the friendly voices in your head whispering about the Mossad, 911, Kurt Cobain’s ‘suicide’ and the Eskimo psy-ops false flag operation involving the Kardashians will go away too. Well, can’t make an omelet without breaking some (moar white babyz) eggs…


      • on September 23, 2015 at 10:20 pm Obviously Cap'n

        Well, Mordecai, I guess we can all hope that the MAZI is staffed by just as many Beta Schlub Losers as are our Border Patrol and Secret Service.


  3. Cape Fear laugh award


  4. That’s it, I’ve decided. I’m sending my 16yo son your blog link. Too much good information here not to.

    Liked by 1 person

  5. The girl, a kicker for the high school football team

    Probably British, i.e., soccer team. Although future lesbian either way.


    • Never mind… both…

      “He knew it was my senior year, and I’ve been asked some pretty creative ways before this,” said Victoria Burress, 17, a soccer player and kicker for the football team.



    • high T doesn’t always mean dyke, a girl who wants to have an entire football team to herself is probably just a slut


      • heh +1


      • on September 21, 2015 at 2:50 pm Obviously Cap'n

        And yet still the try-hard father in the Border Patrol, with access to the FRIGGING BLACK HELICOPTER OF DEATH, can’t get his Unter-Gamma [email protected] little boy any p00ntang – not even with the team ho, who likely already has an [email protected] notch count greater even than her age [of 17]. I am so glad that my Dad let me figure out all of this shiznat the hard way.


      • Easy on those guys, dude. It costs a whole $12 to fuck cute pussy in Colombia these days; most guys now and then spend more than that on a single drink. Plus, in my personal experience, even cheap Colombian hookers sometimes supply the coke.


      • on September 22, 2015 at 6:50 am Obviously Cap'n

        DJ, your homeboyz out there in the San Fernando Valley had better pull any recent tape which came to them from Texas in order to make sure that the latest “Debbie Does Dallas” fantasy isn’t actually a ch!ldp0rn starring that football team’s placekicker. That’s how pathetic this situation is.


  6. The girl, a kicker for the high school football team

    I can’t be the only one who had to read that twice.

    Which reminds me, if the feminists are so eager to “level the playing field” for men and women to compete “on equal terms”, why do they insist on separate sports for men and women? Make it all same-sex. See how many women qualify for the teams and how many win individual medals. Or could it be that leftism is not about a level playing field at all, but simply what is best for feminists, browns and perverts?

    Everyone thinks that we like each other, but it’s not like that at all.

    Oh, that’s so awesome. What a shiv indeed. It’s like that video with the Chinese guy who bought 99 iPhones and shaped them like a heart in the company parking lot, then brought his girlfriend out there to give her the iPhones and propose, only to be turned down.

    Or the other Chinese guy who had been turned down by a girl for being too poor (his story), and later hired three or so movie theaters and gave away free tickets to show her how rich he had become.

    Or the New Zealand mystery meat who posted a girl’s picture in Facebook to ask fellow stalkers to track her down, because he had met her once in Hong Kong. Causing media to pick up the story. So now her name will be connected to that story in every Google search when she is dating or looking for a job, thanks a lot. And his name will be as well, so there is some justice at least.

    But back to the helicopter story. If he thought she would say yes by her own volition, he wouldn’t have needed a helicopter and teddy bomb to make her say yes in public.


    • Which is why beta game is much more manipulative.


    • Or F. Scott Fitzgerald, who became a successful writer in order to impress a jaded Southern Belle, only to have her bitch at him the rest of his life.

      But I guess genius at that level must remain it’s own reward. Hemingway was a greater beta who used what he learned from his conventional alpha inclinations like boxing, shooting and gambling, to eventually figure out women. He had Fitzgerald’s tragic beta nature figured out the first time they met.

      Now Hemingway wrote a lot of great work. Overall, I like it better than Fitzgerald’s. But Gatsby, the story of the Beta who could never please Belle, remains the Great American Novel.


    • on September 21, 2015 at 3:52 pm Captain Obvious



    • Or could it be that leftism is not about a level playing field at all, but simply what is best for feminists, browns and perverts?



  7. “””You want to be the man who hears instead from girls, “I hope he likes me back”. “””

    This is exactly the kind of clarity of language that a stubborn blue pill teenage boy will understand.


    • @PA It sounds like a scene form Modern Family, something Phil Dunphy would do. The problem now is that movies and tv shows have become so feminized they portray or allude to sexual strategies being a factor of “persistence paying off”…leading to pedestalization and this influences guys who don’t understand game to work for a girl’s attention instead of having her work for it.

      I was in this same position. The worst thing I ever did was give a girl a special seasonal seafood gift which a client of mine had passed to me in celebration of some event. I actually met her in the middle of a work day to pass it to her. Then later I asked her to go to a movie. She was busy. A few months later I discovered game and the manosphere.


      • on September 22, 2015 at 5:15 pm Captain Obvious

        WW, the sad thing is that that would have worked for your parents’ generation. But then this happened – “movies and tv shows have become so feminized” – Eskimo Psychiatry DESTROYED the modern woman, and they started doing so when the girls were 18 months of age, the very first time their mothers sat them down in front of a tv set and put on a Princess Barbie DVD.


  8. That’s Marky Mark Wahlberg in the picture? I just recently realized that he is the guy singing in Good Vibrations. Saw the video, what a whigger. How could anyone take that seriously? Yo, let’s wear an oversized jacket and a baseball cap backward, it’s gonna look totally gangsta. If you have the prerequisite gang of Blacks walk behind you when you sing and make aggressive gestures toward the camera. Self-respect, what self-respect?


    • What’s funny is that Marky Mark simply used whiggerdom to jump start his career to mega stardom because it was en vogue at the time he started.

      Dude was actually a hellion against minorities when he was a teen.

      From the article about how horrible he is:

      ‘Remember when Mark Wahlberg allegedly yelled racial slurs and threw rocks at black kids?’

      ‘Remember when Mark Wahlberg beat a Vietnamese stranger with a stick while calling him a “Veitnam fucking shit”?’

      ‘Remember when Mark Wahlberg blinded another Vietnamese man in one eye almost immediately afterward?’

      ‘Remember when Mark Wahlberg wrote a memoir?

      In 1992 20-year-old Wahlberg, now famous as Marky Mark of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, wrote a memoir. He dedicated it to his penis.’

      LOL at the dedication.


    • on September 21, 2015 at 2:57 pm Obviously Cap'n

      A, it’s actually a very underrated M Night Shyamalan movie – it’s like The Walking Dead meets Saving Private Ryan – Wahlberg is a high school science teacher, who has to unravel an apocalyptic science mystery, in an exceedingly short period of time, or else all of the womynz and chillunz and Betas and Gammas in his care will DIE!!! Ergo the look of near panic in his eyes, while he’s furiously trying to analyze the situation.


      • on September 21, 2015 at 2:58 pm Obviously Cap'n

        Never misunderestimate an M Night Shyamalan movie.


      • What? No!


      • The Happening, though nearly universally panned, was a lot better than most gave it credit for.

        The cries of “amateurish” acting and “bad dialog” missed the point of the whole movie… that of two soft and spoiled yuppies being thrown into the most dire of situations, and coming out at the end as mature adults.

        It hasn’t happened yet for the vast majority of their generation… and it was Shamalayan’s way of telling people that a wake-up call is needed… albeit with a bit of the ol’ environmental blowback schmaltz message tacked on… but there’s more than a little truth to that one as well.


      • on September 22, 2015 at 5:01 pm Captain Obvious

        GE, Shyamalan came out of a cow-worshipping background, but at some point his family converted to some form of Christianity or Popery, and I feel like he’s one of us. To the neophyte – if you can relax and suspend the disbelief and rid yourself of the cynicism, and just let Shyamalan tell you his story, at his pace, and allow him to let events unfold as they will, then his stories are about as intense and as gripping as anyone who has made any movies in the last quarter century. And his stories always have deeply conservative and religious themes to them.


      • Yeah, I’m a big fan as well… I especially like the fact that his movies require an attention span.

        Even the severely flawed Lady In The Water had its moments, although that’s one of his that I won’t try to redeem. But The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs, and The Village were all masterworks.

        It would be a lot to ask to keep that sort of quality going.


  9. Posts like these is one of the reasons that CH is sage wisdom. If I could go back to a time fifteen years ago and meet my younger self I would admonish him similarly; years of beta-male purgatory could have been avoided. But, anger (and, yes, shame!) at the past is wasted. It is better to channel it into teaching my small son how to be a man and avoid the mistakes his father made.


    • I think almost everyone will regret things done in the dating scene, it’s unavoidable. You live and learn. Hopefully without hiring helicopters.

      Would be interesting to hear how many people here have flown with a helicopter. First time I did that I was seven, it was at a town fair. I remember not feeling a thing, I was never afraid of flying. Heights sometimes, but not flying.


    • If there is one thing my daughter (3) and son (1) and hopefully many future white, Nordic children will learn, it is the distilled wisdom of the ages – lost for a century and re-broadcast here at CH.


  10. the father’s compliance with this beta plan is roughly equivalent to feeding twinkies to a hypothyroid daughter and chopping her hair off. It is, quite simply, child abuse.


    • on September 21, 2015 at 1:05 pm Diversity Is Good

      child abuse

      Yeah, pretty much. When sonny boy came up with this plan, a man would have told him “Nah, not gonna work, and here’s why…”. Probably Mom insisted, and “if momma ain’t happy…” betaized hubs complied.

      Either that, or the father has been trying to cram red pills into his son and figured that a dramatic crash and burn was required to get his attention. But not likely.


    • “Hey son, lemme teach you how to get good with girls, like me, a divorced dude whose only lay was a crackho in exchange for not arresting her. True love!”

      Father rape!


  11. It’s just unusual to be that close with a guy and to have him still do something nice for you.”



    • Every once in a while the truth is blurted out. Translation:

      “Guys I want to be close with, guys who make my pussy run like Niagra Falls, would NEVER do something that — ahem–‘nice.'”

      Giggles, hair arranging, and lip licking ensue.


    • Correct response to a LJBF nuclear strike: full retreat, radio silence, cut your losses and move on. The worse thing to do is hang in there and hope she comes around. It won’t happen.


    • on September 21, 2015 at 2:38 pm Flashing Lights

      I took her quote to mean “it’s just unusual to be that close with a guy and to have him still do something nice for you (and not expect anything (sexual) in return)”.

      [CH: classic “surprise i have a penis!” scenario.]


  12. Probably would have had better luck if he’d showed up in a cheerleader outfit and a strap-on asking her to peg him.


    • I get the humor, but most men don’t realize that pegging can give you orgasms 10 times more powerful than you’ve ever experienced. You going to let the ‘men should never allow penetration’ BS stop you from experiencing that? Not me! Your loss.


  13. […] Beta Male Orbiter Pulls Out The Stops For His Oneitis, Is Rewarded With Public Humiliation […]


  14. on September 21, 2015 at 10:37 am The Spirit Within

    Dude, this happened three years ago. I just googled her name and a HuffPost piece popped up, dated 2012.

    ROFL at Wahlberg reaction…

    [CH: old story, same old lessons.]


  15. I find any conversation about the Jews is what really puts me over the top with the ladies. I learned that here!


    • on September 21, 2015 at 12:50 pm The Spirit Within

      Plant your left foot between her shoes so that your thigh touches hers, hold her upper arm so that your thumb grazes the edge of her boob…

      …and whisper in her ear that you’ve got a first edition of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. At home.

      Watch her pupils dilate.


      [CH: hey tsw, you finally made a funny.]


    • Don’t forget spittle-flecked ranting about anti-reality cocoons, Mossad psy-ops, and such…


    • Don’t mention the Sanhedrin and life will be sublime…

      … you’ll get more tail then a lemur…

      … you’ll continue to work in this town…

      Added bonus: you’ll never get nailed to a cross!


  16. Protip: don’t do things that give others the chance to humiliate you. This isn’t even an acceptable “social risk” men need to take. There is absolutely no upside to this.

    Don’t these guys ever wonder: “if this is what gets you a prom date, why aren’t popular dude all guys that pull stunts like this?”


  17. Btw, even better at shivving than young girls are oblivious young boys. I.e. young CH to curly haired QT: “Is shiny haired QT gonna come to the party?” I’ve also had accidental shivs of a similar kind that make yours seem positively benign, but, to my shame, it happened way after the age of 16.

    [CH: the unintentional game of naifs and naturals is the font of wisdom that feeds the intentional game of learned charisma.]


  18. Btw, you wanna see a bucketload of these, just type “beta/cringe thread” into your search bar.


  19. Dude should have flown a drone carrying a blow-up doll with a note asking the girl on a triple date.


  20. “Hey, bitch. You. Me. Prom. It’s happening.”

    No aircraft needed


  21. While it reeks of “teen movie”, the truth is that if a guy she actually liked did this – she would have been very happy and told all her friends, posted it on social media, etc.

    [CH: there’s the rub. a guy she actually likes would never do this. and that’s why he’s liked.]


  22. My guess is she either ended up going with someone else, or ditched him at some point that night. I also wonder why the principal gave permission for this stunt. It just seems like opening up your school to many more stupid requests.


  23. About being nice… If you look at it though the af&bb viewpoint there is nothing a beta can do that is ever enough. So from that perspective, the accumulation of resources and security, the best way to get more is to pretend they are not getting any or what they are getting is worthless.


  24. I value every last time my girlfriend smilingy looks at me with her eyes turned up at me and says “asshole” after I make a smart-assed comment.

    Dinner the other night. A negress and two white boys at dinner, all dressed well. GF says “I like that table’s dynamic. They’re all having fun together after work. It’s unique. Wonder which one she’s dating?”

    Me: “The guy across from her. The other one’s her parole officer.”

    She burst out laughing at gave me the “Asshole!” chide.

    The sex that night was mind blowing.


    • Do you think they talked about you afterward?


    • Nice work. WN’s tend to be way too butthurt. Through most of the time I’ve been red-pill-on-race, I would’ve said something vagina-dessicating like ‘desperate n166er lovers should be lamp-posted.’


  25. “Everyone thinks that we like each other, but it’s not like that at all.”

    At least she’s laying it out there for him. Too many chicks let the dream stay alive by dancing around the issue instead of coming right out and saying “friends forever, baby!” Chicks like collecting their beta-orbiters no matter how large the pile of blue balls grows.

    Which is presumably about half the reason that our host used the lesbo label.

    [CH: she probably was stringing our intrepid beta along for a while until this story broke and she was forced by public exposure to put the kibosh on his hopes and dreams.]


    • Problem is, for girls, rejecting a man is paradoxically a bonding experience for her, and so she’ll refrain from actually rejecting the beta unless he gets really, really aggravating and she has no other choice, and will normally use soft, subtle hints instead.

      Whereas she’ll reject the ZFG alpha with gusto, and then continue flirting with him until they end up together.


      • I hear you. soft resistance from the female is the dance of seduction. The beta orbiter doesn’t understand that getting shit-tested by a woman is, essentially, a compliment. So he never makes the small bold moves that rock the boat, instead penting up his yearning into years of frustration followed by a declaration of love. If he could’ve only channeled that fortitude into touching her thigh six months ago, he wouldn’t be in that mess.

        [CH: an ode to the beta orbiter:

        his love unrushed
        she would be his
        but for a thigh
        left untouched.]


      • To further clarify, girls use indirect rejection (i.e., shunning and avoidance) on men they aren’t interested in, and direct rejection on men they’re flirting with.


      • One of these times when a broad caresses my butt I’m gonna hold it there just to shiv test her. Another one did it Sat. night.


    • I hear the sound of 1000 ginas slamming shut.

      Start countermeasures:


      I think that a few might have reopened.

      Whew! That was close! Could have been the end of western cuckianization.


  26. “she unintentionally revealed a deep truth about the modern American dating market: girls don’t judge close friendships with boys based on how nice the boys are to them. Niceness isn’t a characteristic that girls value very highly as a measure of the closeness of their relationships.”

    It’s worse than that. The field has shifted so that women don’t expect good behavior by men who know them well.

    Does that mean the women have become uniformly low-quality? Yes, it does.


  27. I don’t even know how to react to this:

    “Burress had gone to her car and was trying to make her way back into the building to lift weights, but she was slowed by some of her friends who were in on the act.”

    maybe she’s going to go waste time on the inner thigh abductor machine and she’s not doing dude work.

    I don’t know about the moral of the story. The kids at this school have a tradition of over the top dance invites, eh? But it’s still an out of the blue surprise-I have a dick move, right?


    • Is Mrs. John Scalzi’s last name Burress? Because this chick could be his weight-lifter daughter, Count Dyke-ula.


  28. Poor boy. What a way to burn himself.


  29. High school is a stupid time in life and this can be forgiven, but only IF he gets really fucking pissed off, then slams down in front of his computer at home, alone on dance night and types in these hallowed words into Google; “Why are girls such bitches?!” “Why do nice guys finish last?!”. He’ll be along here shortly, with any luck. From there, his self improvement journey begins.

    The father (if it is his biological father, the jury is still out given his Beta Empowerment) should be keel hauled and, assuming his testicles are somewhat descended that particular day, kicked in the nuts.


    • on September 21, 2015 at 3:38 pm Captain Obvious

      > “if it is his biological father, the jury is still out given his Beta Empowerment” ——— OUTSTANDING POINT.


  30. Wtf is a “kicker”? In football you have keepers, defenders,midfield,strikers,wingers,liberos…all sort of stuff.But wtf is a kicker?


    • on September 21, 2015 at 3:40 pm Captain Obvious

      d0nt b a lim3y [email protected] m8t


      • At least bananas are regularly thrown onto the pitch around Europe .Cues around the block for air Jordans? Only in America


    • The one who scores field goals by kicking the football through the big fork. Doesn’t even have to be a real football player, apparently. I suppose since it requires only lower body / leg strength, it means a woman could conceivably compete with men for the job.


  31. You weren’t kidding about feeling the sting of that one through the screen! I was visibly squirming in my office chair it was so uncomfortable to read.

    No lie, for my senior prom my date came up to me and said, “Tony asked me to go to prom with him but I was kind of waiting for you to ask me…” I look at her and go, “You’re probably right.. did you want to go to prom with me?” She lit right up, said yes, and then scurried off. This was years before I had ever heard of CH or anything like it. Guess I had a little tiny bit of alpha in me back then and didn’t even know it.


  32. “It’s just unusual to be that close with a guy and to have him still do something nice for you.”

    Translation – “Far too often we take our best buddies for granted and fail to show how much we appreciate them. Well, this sweet and nice buddy of mine shows that does not have to be the case! He is a sweetheart!

    Oh, and please let it be known to the world that he will never get in my pants. Please make sure you print that. Please.”


  33. If he is going to waste national resources that could be going to preserving this nations domestic tranquility for himself and his posterity; he could have at least assumed the sale. Towing a banner behind the copter saying “Miss this kick, find a new prom date – lovable asshole” would have flipped the script, made her wet, and still been enough degenerate gender bending to make the washinton post.


  34. I lol’d. But…

    The sad truth is that Hollywood “teen” movies and TV shows reinforce this sort of behavior as the “correct” way to win a girl. That would be a fine behavior to reinforce if Hollywood also reinforced the idea that women should remain virgins till marriage, should marry and love beta guys, they shouldn’t engage in alpha worship, and that family should be paramount.

    But Hollywood doesn’t; in its modern, twisted version of the Hays Code, men should be beta bitches to women to win them, while women should be slutty, shallow, self-absorbed, career-obsessed lefty harpies, and do nothing to be good wives and mothers.

    This kid’s actions were a product of movies like “Say Anything” or (more recently) “Pitch Perfect”, where manginas are depicted as finally winning the girl after being doormats and then “supporting them.” (And yes, unfortunately, I saw “Pitch Perfect,” but hey, something had to be on while she blew me.) John Cusack’s crappy, talentless but somehow sustaining career demonstrates the power being a rom com sap can bring.

    In all these movies, the lead character beta gets the girl after being extremely beta throughout most, and then girls who watch the movies develop crushes on the movie stars playing the betas. For fatherless, insulated young men desperate to pick up women yet not knowing how, this sends the signal that acting beta=get all the chicks,eventually, you just gotta wait it out and be as sweet as pie.

    Except the guys watching never notice that 1) the problems in the story that the beta-dude overcomes to get the girl are highly improbable to exist/overcome by a beta dude; 2) the beta lead dude displays some sort of attractive skill set that gets the panties wet (singing, dancing, fighting,leader-of-his-buddies) but that’s never given as the “official” reason the lead girl falls for him, so the logical-male brains ignore it and the emotion-female brains smile at their manipulation ; and 3) women will fall in love with an actor or singer being beta on stage, but expect alpha off it; again, positional alphas, but better follow it up with personal alphahood.

    Anyway, propaganda by Hollywood to make men—especially white men—manginas, combined with the natural betatude brought about by single motherhood, has created problems such as this. This is, of course, an extreme example, but it comes from that source.

    tl; dr rom com rape!


  35. It’s just unusual to be that close with a guy and to have him still do something nice for you.

    This tells a LOT about women if you aren’t too blind to see – women don’t want men that do nice things for them, the worse you treat them the better, but they want to do nice things for a man that they want to “win”. Women enjoy telling other women how much of a jerk the guy they are with is – it’s sort of like a badge of honor for them. So give them that reason – that isn’t to say that you can be a jerk when it’s easy for them to walk away – you need to be indifferent, and let them “win” you – so they feel they have won something of value, and the best way is if you have other women around you.

    That is why that show “The Bachelor” is so popular – women compete against the other women, not for the man, but to win against other women. When they win, the man is superfluous – so the key is never to let a woman win. Always flirt with other women, especially their younger sister, even when they think they have won. Make sure they are always competing for YOUR attention.

    This guy’s mistake was letting her know long ago that she won – who wants what they already have? No one… Or what is “cheap” for them to get? The more something costs, and the harder to get, the more it is worth to a woman. NEVER forget that and live accordingly. And she needs to bitch about you to other women – it’s women’s way of showing how much their man is worth.

    Of course, you’ll hear women spouting the exact opposite, but if you want a happy woman, treat her like dirt 99% of the time, and she’ll love you for that 1% when you do something nice for her. That she thought you didn’t hear… You don’t have to believe me, but you’ll come to learn it that hard way.


    • LOL, I just tried to post a comment at that article, but it said there was some sort of problem. So I reloaded the page but then the comments section was completely gone. Looks like a bunch of red-pillers were there noticing things they shouldn’t have.


    • “Sadly, the attempt failed at 22 hours 37 minutes, when Norem got a semi without her permission. His parents, Kole and Kady (divorced), posted his $25,000 bond yesterday. The two are reportedly planning to try again next month, after Alec completes 100 hours of court-mandated counseling, allowing the restraining order to be lifted.”


  36. The kid was raised.


  37. Stuff like this used to work about 20 years ago, but the girl had to be into you to begin with. C’mon man, this is no stunt to EVER try now, but you could get away with romantic gestures as long as you were getting some IOI’s from the girl back in the day. Hell, they almost expected you to at least send some flowers pre 1995. But those girls are gone, grrrrrl power is in, and one Beta move now and you might as well be Erkel with your pants riding high waiting for the flood. Case in point:

    My best friend, who is a natural Alpha type, was getting IOI’s whilst walking to the store by his house to grab some brews. He sees a girl outside her business by the store talking on the phone everyday and she’s always smiling and throwing hard IOI’s his direction as he passes by. So, this time, he decides to bust a move, 1991 style. He gets a couple of brews in him and decides to cut a couple of roses from his yard and write this chick an intro note saying he’s the dude she smiles at all the time who’s always out working in the yard. (She always seems to go out and chatter on the phone when he’s shirtless outside). He places the roses and the note on her car outside her office and goes home……..Within the hour, the police arrive at his house. I kid you not…..She called the cops. They basically white knighted for this slut and kept asking if he “had a problem with her” over and over. His response was “no, I have the opposite of a problem, I was introducing myself and wanted to ask her out”. To which they told him he was to “stay away” from the precious snowflake. Granted, he’s owned his house there for 15 years and works in radiology at the hospital, but that’s a moot point. She wanted to attention whore, as this football grrrrrrl did, and made a spectacle of a man showing interest. Here’s the kicker…..She still goes out and tries to get his attention when he goes outside but he looks the other way now. I told him to shun that nasty ho like she has the plague. This guy already loathes American woman and usually meets women overseas. Now he’s worse then ever. This is not some dorky beta! Women are always approaching him and telling him how good looking he is and asking him out…..The dude seriously looks like he should be in movies and he’s well traveled and smart. I try to tell women how bad they’re screwing things up for themselves when they shun a man for this stuff but they can’t comprehend. Romance is dead guys. Pump and dump.


    • on September 21, 2015 at 5:17 pm Captain Obvious

      There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life.


    • Tell him to call the cops on her for stalking.


    • He gets a couple of brews in him and decides to cut a couple of roses from his yard and write this chick an intro note saying he’s the dude she smiles at all the time who’s always out working in the yard. (She always seems to go out and chatter on the phone when he’s shirtless outside). He places the roses and the note on her car outside her office and goes home……..

      He could probably get away with something like that in Russia, or even if she was already his girlfriend, but in ‘Murica and as a stranger, where women have their radars up on constant high alert for “creepiness,” it’s simply not a good idea any more.


      • on September 22, 2015 at 9:26 am Captain Obvious

        No, you simply cannot be nice to any USA girls nowadays, unless maybe they are Amish chicks who have never been exposed to Eskimo Gramscian programming [and MAYBE homeschooled evangelical girls]. Now that I understand the Code of Darkness, I know why. I have gotta finish up that graphic which displays it all.


      • Exactly….Yet the constant drumbeat of, “where have all the good men gone?” from these same confused, Frankfurt Institute programmed women. Watch what they do vs. what they say. Anytime I’m reaching into comfort phase with a woman nowadays, I have to remind myself not to push it too far and that I must assert frame via the Dark Art of Game and the Triad. I’m afraid at this point, we’re dealing with somewhat soul-less creatures in these hiveborg wominzz. Don’t listen to their pleas for “good men”, for they wish to bang the smelly biker out by the dumpster in their hearts….Or a reasonable dark facsimile that you yourself can conjure up via Game.


      • Where have all the good men gone? They’re being sent to ‘baby heaven’ everyday by your ‘courageous’ and ’empowerrrrrd’ sistaz. (to be reunited on the Day of Reckoning)


  38. She tossed the stuffed animal over her shoulder with the pithy comment,



  39. Very rarely since learning game I do encounter a situation where a girl I meet, shows interest and nothing happens. This means 2-3 “outings”. At that point I go silent and then let them do all the work.

    There are two girls, both hot who have morphed into “Friends”. This does serve me well. They’re quite good dancers and they’re also very affectionate so other girls see me with them, sometimes I’m photographed with them and this does spark a reaction from OTHER girls to step up.

    But I would never put myself into a position where I go to any lengths to “prove” my love. I also rarely go to any great lengths to do anything more than maybe a dinner if i’m banging them and it’s their birthday.


  40. on September 21, 2015 at 6:03 pm Dindu Riot Squad

    Best thing that ever happened to me was getting rejected by a oneitis crush in high school. Fortunately a) it was not public b) she was cool about it and c) I was only a sophomore and didn’t waste four years pining after her. It almost like everything crystallized for me and that moment. And rather than get bitter, I came to UNDERSTAND. Now, I didn’to turn into some poosy slaying pimp all of a sudden, but I stopped caring about getting that elusive girlfriend and then suddenly, it was the girls asking me out. I never dated any nines or anything like that but never dated or fucked, in high school or college, a girl that most men would be embarrassed to be seen with in public.

    Even if I didn’t become this full on alpha in high school because of this rejection, i at least knew why the so called jerks were getting laid. And in college, rather than get bitter, I could watch my charismatic pot head hasn’t showered in three days fraternity brother lead his latest conquest off to his room not with jealousy in my heart, but I knowing smirk on my face. Even if I didn’t choose to fully play the game, learning the rules early on was a huge help for me.


  41. on September 21, 2015 at 6:16 pm Dindu Riot Squad

    The father and son need a Pinochet style helicopter ride.


  42. Check out the Tumblr page Third Reich Confessions. It was initially created as a politics page but has been inundated with anonymous female posts of longing to be dominated by SS men, AH and the rest.
    The Night Porter, 9.5 Weeks and 50 Shades were all written by women. Females are


  43. To CH et al.,

    Requesting analysis of my “text” game, and how it can be improved, etc.

    Girl from OKC “liked” me & wrote a message: “hiya”

    I don’t pursue much on OKC [CH’s old post on this pretty much nailed the coffin] – almost like a dead account, but if a girl is initiating, my response is: why not? It’d be low hanging fruit.

    There’s a brief back and forth in which I mention a rom-com movie she’s never seen, etc. but I wanted to get away from stupid chit-chat online, so I wrote something like “it’s better to talk about this in person. Here’s my #, etc.”

    I let it at that. I figured, if she’s interested, she’ll text. If she’s not, big deal.

    NOTE – this happened Saturday afternoon. I’m doing chores, primarily, etc.
    She does text, with the following: “hey, noel, it’s that girl from okc”

    I reply: “hey that girl from okc. How ya doin. Got a name?”

    Yes, it seemed to me to have violated terse principle 1.

    She replies: “Mickella.”

    I wrote: “You in the Lakeshore area or”

    On her profile she mentioned she lived in Oakland. I used to live there so my goal was to pinpoint where she was.

    She writes: “jls”

    I write: “jls?” I forgot what it stood for.

    She writes “Jack London Square”. I write: “oh right. want to meet”

    She writes: “sure. But I’m in San Jose this weekend.”

    First snag. I write: “give me some dates & times”

    Radio silence after that. Today’s Monday. I haven’t written her since or followed up. I figure the ball is in her court.

    I seek your analysis of where I screwed up. I think my last line might come off too aggressive/too butthurt? Though I thought I wasn’t. I simply wanted some dates. Or was the last line too weak/beta and that I should’ve written something like: “let’s meet Mon” or something like that?

    Any advice on tightening up game is appreciated. I was annoyed at some wordiness.

    Thanks all.

    [CH: nothing you texted came off butthurt. the problem was the last line. I don’t generally think it’s a good idea to leave the logistics up to women, because it risks activating their “feeling kinda slutty because i’m chasing him too hard” defenses. that’s probably why she dropped contact. (other strong poss: another dude or an ex-bf she still likes came through for a date) maybe she was expecting you to offer to drive to san jose to see her (good thing you didn’t do that).
    a better way to nail down a meeting time in these situations is something like:
    her: “sure. but i’m in san jose this weekend”
    you: “k. i’m free next thursday. after that, can’t say.”]


    • Thx for the analysis and alternative response.

      In a situation like this — if I recall from your posts but I forget — is it recommended to wait a week or two to send out a feeler text/non-sequitur text, or –based on the above — it’s far better to let it go as this girl is likely to be dead in the water?

      Much appreciated, and great beta post.


      • @Noel, nothing wrong with your text, it’s just all tactical and logistics. I usually write:

        “If you promise to behave, let’s meet up for drinks. What’s your schedule, I’m free xyz”

        Non-needy push, leave the idea of coming out open to her and cap it off with a date I’m free. If she’s keen, she’ll offer up some times. If not, well…next.

        Another is: “oy, let’s meet up for drinks this week”

        or: “I’m djing this week, come out, bring friends”. This is a more public forum and makes it less awkward for her to come out exclusively for me if I’m actually busy doing stuff and can only have a quick drink. But if she comes out, she’s mildly interested and it’s worth seeing if I can move it forward.


      • Thx walawala.

        given the situation as it stands — that is, no response from her to my text since Saturday — that I shouldn’t bother with this one girl and drop her? Or to send out a sort of feeler/touch-base text either later in the week or next week?

        I’m trying to determine my next move (if any). Given what I know, her interest level now is a zero….


      • @Noel, I encounter this all the time. If the girl isn’t keen about meeting within the first exchange, a follow up usually leads no where and ends up making you seem needy and lacking options.

        But…since you haven’t met her and your text exchange was neutral and not terribly memorable but not a disaster…shoot her a text like this:

        “Hey smiley girl, what trouble you causing this weekend?”

        See how she replies….


  44. Get to the chopper!


  45. “No one can tell you how you should feel inside
    What’s right from wrong is a choice
    You make up in your own mind
    Think you should hurry, well you got time
    No matter what the case may be
    You can demand
    You can demand what you want and take it
    You can command all the rules and break them
    You can demand
    And when the time comes you wanted to do more”
    Pennywise Rape!


  46. Text game suggestions appreciated. I met a girl on Saturday night at a party. We had a great interaction (I can post about it if anyone wants to see it) and I told her to put her number in my phone just before I left around 2 am. She typed in her name and number, then I called her so she could capture mine.

    On the way home, she called me. I didn’t pick it up because I was driving. She texts a few minutes later:

    Her: Benson?
    Her: uhhh…Did I spell that right? Lol

    20 minutes later, once I got home:

    Me: you did. goodnight [girl’s name]

    We didn’t communicate on Sunday, so I text her this morning:

    Me: saturday was fun. gonna get you back for stepping on my toes though

    Haven’t heard from her yet.

    Comments, suggestions?

    [CH: the “goodnight” was too curt, given the fact that she reached out to you. she was looking for a little late night flirting via text. i’d have shot the banter a little longer, to raise her buying temp.]


    • [CH: the “goodnight” was too curt, given the fact that she reached out to you. she was looking for a little late night flirting via text. i’d have shot the banter a little longer, to raise her buying temp.]

      Can I recover?

      [CH: i don’t know. you texted her again on sunday, right? and she didn’t reply. i’d say doing anything more at this point is futile, EXCEPT….
      you could try “reverse eavesdropping game” or “non sequitur game” as a last ditch effort. for explanations of those tactics, please search the CH archives.]


      • CH:You could try “reverse eavesdropping game” or “non sequitur game” as a last ditch effort

        I sent her a text on Monday, we didn’t talk Sunday. Should I wait before trying a non sequiter? I also thought about using “made you look” to try and hook her again.

        [CH: wait about a week then send a reverse eavesdropping text. report back with results.]


      • [CH: wait about a week then send a reverse eavesdropping text. report back with results.]

        I may see her Friday night. How does that affect my strategy?


      • [CH: wait about a week then send a reverse eavesdropping text. report back with results.]

        Alright, I waited a week then shot her a non sequitur text. One commenter on the reverse eavesdropping post said to send the text in a foreign language, if you speak one. So, in German, I said, “Yes, of course.”

        About two hours later she responded, “Sorry I don’t speak chewbacca or whatever that language is lol”. Then she followed up by asking about my band’s show last night.

        It looks like I have a chance to redeem myself. Thanks for the input, CH et al.

        [CH: :thumbs up:]


    • Hindsight is of course always 20-20, and from my here you can always think of nice ripostes such as:

      “…did I spell that right? LOL”

      “almost. it’s Lord Benson to you”

      or: “except for it’s sex God Benson to you”

      this is in keeping w/the late night flirting, etc.


      • Those all sound a little try hard to me.

        Anyway, I thought it was OK to cut her off for the night. We flirted plenty at the party, and it was almost 2:30 am. I wanted to sleep. I’m sure everyone goes through that period of fine tuning their game, learning to calibrate text messages and so forth, but I’m still a little surprised that all it took was one message to quell the tingles.

        CH, I’ll throw some bucks in the tip jar in exchange for sensible moderation. Everything is going to mod.


    • @Benson there is a kind of rule that you shouldn’t text back too quickly. But the fact now is a girl’s attention span is so short that if she’s engaged, I disagree. I think you should be bantering while she’s engaged. She reached out to you when her attraction was at a peak. You blew her off. Now you have to start with the attraction all over again.

      As I wrote above, re-engaging means you have to start the chase. I usually do this:

      “Hey smiley girl, what trouble you causing tonight?”

      “Oy, let’s meet up for drinks this week”

      “I’m djing this weekend, come out…bring friends”

      In all these cases, I’m telling her not asking her. In the first example, it’s a tease.

      If she doesn’t respond, leave it.


      • I’m glad I brought it up here, because I had no idea I was fucking myself. The text sounded a bit terse after I read it back to myself, though I was honestly just saying goodnight. I was exhausted from being on stage all night and then socializing for four hours afterwards. I was ready for eight hours of quiet time.


  47. When this story ran, the boy’s name was left out to protect him….I’m now thinking Elliot Rodgers.

    Boy drops love letters from helicopter, girls drops shiv nuke from orbit…only way to be sure.


    • on September 22, 2015 at 7:10 am Obviously Cap'n

      Without clicking on the link, the Guardian is the leading Eskimo propaganda outlet in the UK [although arguably the BBC has been coopted by the Eskimos]. And we know exactly why the Eskimos would be pushing for pathological altruism in the face of millions of muddish anti-White anti-Western savages “desperately needing” refugee status.


  48. […] Beta Male Orbiter Pulls Out The Stops For His Oneitis, Is Rewarded With Public Humiliation | Chateau… […]


  49. Hopefully this Chump can learn from this hideous display of Stupidity.
    This day and age you have all the access to learn Game, not the hard way like
    In the 1980s.


  50. Speaking as a former registered player with the Football Association: Every one of the eleven players of a soccer team is a kicker (even the goalie) – this is not American Football! Some mighty confusion therefore in the article. Either way women suck at Soccer so badly it is frankly cruel to allow them to play.


    • read the article – it’s american football. they even have a headshot of her in her helmet. no need to show the rest of her body, we can guess what that looks like lolzozlzozlozzozlozlzz

      women suck at all competitive sports.


  51. Asking for a general advice. “Oficially” met this girl on my friend’s birthday in a bar, but we have met a few months before on the street during one of my solo sessions; she didn’t remember me. We’re both Polish, she’s a 22yo HB8. After one minute she drops “I think you don’t like me” which was a perfect opportunity for A&A, but I think I just went with “Why?”.

    My impression was that she is very cold, so I just ignored her for an hour and talked to the people around. Joined later and she started to slowly warm up — solid EC, absent at first, was there, got in some light touching on the arm. She was sitting in a very defensive position, legs crossed, hands crossed with palms within her legs, caving in. Then some drunk guy started hitting on her so had to AMOG a bit and after one thing I said she turned her head with “I can’t believe you just said that!” look. We were taking a photo later, so I just grabbed her waist firmly and pulled, no resistance. Had to leave rather early, so we exchaned numbers. I had mixed feelings about this one.

    Texting was bad, I tried to banter, but she didn’t seem too invested in the convo. Invited her twice to come hang out with my friends, she gave some polite — probably true, from what she told me before — excuses. She was generally answering quickly, emojis and all that crap and then cutting the convo after few messages. I have already nexted her when 3 days later I get a text “I’ll be at the meeting today :)” (we attend meetings of Polish people living in France, I just found out about them, so we haven’t met there before, but she knew I will come). I was considering sending wala’s “Dress nicely, so we match” response, but eventually I just ignored it.

    At the meeting I was sharp, felt great in general — it turns out I have quite naturally some AMOG skills I haven’t known about, and my confident body language really stands out in the group of average guys. She came a bit late, again started rather cold, warmed up. Then I flirted with another HB8 just in front of her face. I think that later she was looking at me even when talking to other people (not sure, might be coincidence), she touched my arm a few times when we talked later again and… I had to go, early wake-up for work the next day. Left with my friend and she left a few mins later since we saw each other on the metro station.

    2 days later, on Saturday, asked her to join me&friends for some activity on Sun, said she’s working. Asked for Sat, she said she already has plans, not offering anything by herself. It feels like when we meet, I can actually make steady progress, but via text it’s backpedaling. Also, talked about this girl with a friend who knows her for a while and he said she’s always very cold with guys and during two years he has never seen her interested in a guy.

    So the question is, how do I play that (do I even?)? I don’t want to be like this beta seeing IOIs when they’re not there. It would clearly take some time, but what’s the strategy here? Radio silence? Sticking to the meetings? Pinging with “wsup” every few days? Hard next? I have other plates waiting, but I actually like the challenge here.


    • on September 22, 2015 at 7:00 am Obviously Cap'n

      OMW, it sounds like you’re doing just fine. This chick is obviously forcing you to invest in her. The AMOGing and the flirting with another HB8 are absolutely perfect for the situation. My only warning is that this chick might actually come from a deeply c0nservative [email protected] Polish background, which is to say: She MIGHT be a keeper. And if you care about these things [meaning MOAR WHYTE BABEEZ] then that puts more pressure on you. On the other hand, she might just be a mental case.


      • on September 22, 2015 at 7:02 am Obviously Cap'n

        Also, be forewarned that there is beaucoup alcoholism amongst the Poles and their womynz – be careful about developing feelings for her if you see her drinking alcohol at Noon on a Saturday or at 5PM on weekdays [been there, done that, and she was flat-out gorgeous and highly edumakated].


      • She was probably drinking heavily to drown out the Eskimo, Gramsci, Mossad psy-ops ranting…


      • on September 22, 2015 at 9:41 am Captain Obvious

        C’mon, Mordecai, you can do better than that. Sheesh. Phoning it in like that is disrespectful, man.


      • Mr Sock, meet Mr Puppet…


      • on September 22, 2015 at 4:20 pm Captain Obvious

        Mordecai, Mordecai, Mordecai, your dear old Muter un Foter wasted all that precious Eskimo-Geld for you to get your degree in Behavioral Psych from Brandeis. I almost feel sorry for them. Almost.


    • You aren’t doing enough to jump through her windows…

      “After one minute she drops “I think you don’t like me” which was a perfect opportunity for A&A, but I think I just went with “Why?”.”

      “3 days later I get a text “I’ll be at the meeting today :)” (we attend meetings of Polish people living in France, I just found out about them, so we haven’t met there before, but she knew I will come). I was considering sending wala’s “Dress nicely, so we match” response, but eventually I just ignored it.”

      See here? she is giving you a huge opening and you beta flub it. It’s called game for a reason. Serve and volley. Just serve is not a game right? Hit one back to her IN THE MOMENT.

      This is how you increase attraction the most. Text after this is just filler. Get on it she probably won’t give you many more chances. You know what to do, you’ve just been choosing not to. Like the results?


      • Fully aware of the fuck-ups. It’s annoying — I theoretically know what to do, but then, in reality, I do the wrong thing and I need to recover. My biggest problem now is I miss a lot of windows. I always analyze the conversations afterwards and the right answers come too late.

        I’m sure I’ll will see her again (meetups are every 2 weeks). Radio silence till then?


      • I’d go with radio silence and then expect to really build some attraction when you see her in person. Reboot from there at this point.

        This is social circle game so it pays to be a bit calibrated, you will be seeing her over and over for a bit. If she hits you up text in the meantime, well just run with it. Try and set up a meet before the event if you can.

        Always remember women do nothing with guys randomly. You may not understand her angle, but she always has one.


      • on September 22, 2015 at 1:35 pm having a bad day


        “Fully aware of the fuck-ups. It’s annoying — I theoretically know what to do, but then, in reality, I do the wrong thing and I need to recover. My biggest problem now is I miss a lot of windows. ”

        so, in other words, you’re already ahead of 90% of the men in the world…lol…

        good job on putting yourself out there and getting better…it’s not easy…

        “I always analyze the conversations afterwards and the right answers come too late.”

        that’s alright and to be expected…it’s like anything new, it takes time to develop ‘those mad skillz, yo’…

        the progression is [notice red pill/game is ‘thing’] ==> search for info ==> read CH and related sites ==> get red pill knowledge-base and see it in real-life ==> try red pill/game but make mistakes and analysis is in hindsight (this alone puts you ahead of 90% of men anyway) ==> practice more ==> see red pill interactions in real time/analysis is while you are in set ==> practice more ==> make accurate predictions on where the interaction will go per game theory/red pill knowledge/lead the interaction to where you want the results to be ==> help other men with their self-improvement…

        “I’m sure I’ll will see her again (meetups are every 2 weeks). Radio silence till then?”

        yep…and have a plan on what to work on…i would recommend (per your self-analysis) = seeing windows…so, focus on seeing when she serves up a window/IOI and respond in red pill fashion ‘immediately’…like Sentient says ‘serve and volley’…lol…note – it won’t hurt you to think a little bit before you respond bc slow response = alpha…

        good luck!


      • Mods. Help?


      • @Sentient

        they are all at happy hour…lol…

        i keep losing posts too, including short ones



      • Thanks for the input, will proceed accordingly. Pinged a few days ago with “wsup” to see where I stand, got an immediate answer. Got her to qualify within two texts which she did in 30 seconds and then… cut the convo lol. Radio silence since then and I’m gonna keep it this way.

        In the meantime, realized that I care about this chick way too much even though she hasn’t done anything (the inner beta is still there), so I initiated a distraction protocol. Opened up a very cute blonde on the train I saw at the campus a few times before with “You don’t look like an early bird” and after a second of silence she responds “You neither”. Conversation was fun (damn, they all talk sooo much…), one thing I noticed — it’s hard to game at 10am. Anyway, every time she sees me now she smiles, waves and says hi, so will see what’s going on here soon..

        It’s funny, during last 2 months I talked to more hot girls than during 5 previous years. It makes me kind of sad I’ve missed my early 20s studying and being anti-social. So glad I found CH.


    • you’re chasing. nothing catastrophic yet, good. if you get another meetup, what you need to do is qualify her…. bait hook reel release bait hook reel release…. and keep up the usual attraction and comfort. but these sticking point girls really, really need extra bits of qualification… she has to feel like she’s trying to win you over. Review some of Mystery’s A3 but don’t use his exact lines, they are rudimentary.


      • Yeah, I’ve been trying to make her qualify on various occasions and had really hard time with it. Every time I steer a convo into some qualification, she’d cut it. She’s from a very small town, gave me at first a strage vibe, like she’s overwhelmed with my personality (as said, she was sitting in a very defensive position; on the other hand, I usually take a lot of space and dominate), a bit lost in general.

        I was literally shocked when I saw that text a few days ago.


      • I might be also just making stuff up in my head and there’s nothing to work with. We’ll see.


      • More reason to think she is into you. You may just have to lead her more if she is not socialized. If you see her out at this meeting again, assuming no contact between now and then, you might try some kino when you greet her, like hand on her upper arm. Be prepared to tease – not so much to be a dick and not to make you unattainable – enough to make her giggle or faux frown.. and when the meeting is breaking, take her hand and say hey, let’s grab a coffee down the street and LEAD her out. You just need a little tug for a few paces… once her feet move you have her and can relax and be normal. And of course you will have planned ahead and know all the coffee places close by, the bars close by, where you are in relation to your place, transit, her place etc… Get the logistics down in advance.

        Here is a way to approach these things, mindset wise – assume attraction. If you assume attraction and act accordingly you amplify the situation if there is attraction. If there is no attraction, you might build it by assuming there is. If there is no attraction and never will be any, you are no worse off than when you started!

        Have fun!


      • on September 22, 2015 at 4:28 pm Captain Obvious

        ONM, don’t be too hard on yourself. You knocked it out of the park when AMOGing and when flirting with the other chick in front of her [you can’t ask for better situationalism than that]. Some chicks just DEMAND persistence out of their men, and I know from experience that [email protected] Polish chicks will demand it from you. Sure, maybe you could improve a line here, or a TXT there, but don’t get too down on yourself. You’ve got a lot going for you – BUILD ON IT. Oh, and remember that Betas Ask Questions, whereas Alphas Issue Commands. So it’s not “Would you like to meet us at the restaurant this evening?”, but rather “Meet us at the restaurant at 8PM.” And never forget that you, Mr AMOG, are the prize. Not she. You.


  52. Later that night she got shagged rotten by the helicopter pilot.


  53. Too much going on in this video to keep track of everything. The comments are a riot! Watch for the supposedly male readers wondering whether they should talk it over with their sexually inhibited wives.


    • Her heart seems in the right place but you can’t negotiate attraction. She is coming from the same logical place as a beta male.

      She is missing the evo biology/psych attraction triggers. One of the strongest is pre-selection and the fear of loss (dread). Game is required as much in marriage as not.


  54. On the other end of the spectrum, a candidate for AOTM…

    Model Tries to Extort $2,000 From Jaromir Jagr With Post-Sex Selfie, Fails Because He DGAF

    “43-year-old NHL legend Jaromir Jagr slept with an 18-year-old model. The girl that Jagr slept with took a picture of him sleeping after the deed was done. The woman—or someone associated with the woman—then threatened to sell it to the media unless he paid $2,000.

    Just one problem: Jagr DGAF. Additionally, he’s single so he didn’t have to try to hide the post-sex selfie from his wife or girlfriend. As a result, he had just one response for the blackmailer when she said she was going to put the photo up on the Internet for all to see: ‘I don’t care.'”

    Add this man, and his text, to the AOTM archives. “I don’t care” belongs beside such iconic phrases as “bring da movies” and “gay”.


    • He should have notified the police and pressed charges against the bitch (blackmail is a crime.)


    • on September 22, 2015 at 1:11 pm The Spirit Within

      She flunks Golddigging 101.

      Jagr doesn’t care if people see a picture of him asleep. Good on him, but not really AOTM material, unless (for example) he was married and managed to make *his wife* apologize for not satisfying him.


    • I can’t believe Yahoo used the acronym “DGAF” unselfconsciously in an article like that. In casual talk, sure, but in a news article? Our media just gets more and more vulgar with each passing year.


  55. Imagine the guy who will treat her like she has HIV 95% push 5% pull, he will get laid soooooo easily it will be a joke.


  56. I’m surprised beta-boy wasn’t charged with sexual harassment!


  57. I choo choo choo choose you!


  58. Perhaps the answer is to avoid random displays of affection for girls with names sounding like dead-ringers for ‘Regina George’ unless they wanted to end up drugged, alone (or preferring such a case hypothetically) and of fluctuating repute. Does this count as a case where a romantic message could have been better eschewed in favour of a Katy Perry tweet and this would be a better option? That’s rare, and not just because Katy Perry is basically an angry beta male and probably posts on/invented MRA blogs and such.