The Female Addiction To Self-Esteem

CH has written about the problem of exploding female self-esteems, its causes and its manifestations, as well as the shallow (if broad) nature of the epidemic of bloated gogrrl egos and what it all means for players looking to exploit sexual market loopholes for love and romance.

Apparently (and unsurprisingly), the results from a recent social ❤science❤ study confirm CH field experience and idle theorizing.

Self-Esteem Instability and the Desire for Fame

The desire to become famous was examined among individuals with stable and unstable forms of self-esteem. Participants were 181 female undergraduates who completed measures of self-esteem level and fame interest along with daily measures of state self-esteem (i.e., how an individual feels about oneself at the present moment) for seven consecutive days. Our results show that individuals who possess unstable high self-esteem reported a stronger desire to become famous than did those with stable high self-esteem. These findings suggest the intriguing possibility that individuals with unstable high self-esteem may want to become famous as a means for gaining external validation. Implications of these findings for understanding the connection between self-esteem and the desire for fame are discussed.

181 self-reporting female subjects doesn’t qualify as a huge (or unerring) study, but it’s enough to glimpse penumbras of the womanly craving for external validation, aka attention whoring.

Why were only women studied?

We focused exclusively on women in the present study because previous research suggests that women were more likely than men to report being interested in fame as a way to gain status (Greenwood et al., 2013) and use their interest in celebrities as a way to establish their own identities (i.e., celebrity worship; Reeves, Baker, & Truluck, 2012).

Paradoxically, men gain MUCH more reproductive fitness from fame than do women, and yet women appear to crave fame more. It could be that women’s self-esteems are naturally more unstable than men’s self-esteems, and that women also have a stronger constitutional need to “feel good in the moment” than do men, so they turn to fame and facsimiles of fame (posting Africa AIDS kid pics to Instagram while assuming the missionary position (double entendre intended)) as a sort of palliative to rub their hamsters with the grain.

The most interesting aspect of this study (because let’s face it the results pretty much internally and externally validate generations of conventional wisdom about women’s natural disposition to flaunt their prime nubility goods for ego assuaging feels) is the finding that unstable high self-esteem women are the most likely to attention whore.

What is an unstable high self-esteem woman?

The present study focuses on self-esteem instability, which refers to fluctuations in moment-to-moment feelings of self-worth over time. Accounting for both self-esteem level and self-esteem instability is important because it allows researchers to identify those individuals who possess secure and fragile forms of high self-esteem. That is, individuals who possess high levels of self-esteem that are stable over time (i.e., stable high self-esteem) are believed to be secure in their feelings of self-worth because their positive attitudes about themselves appear to be well-anchored and do not fluctuate a great deal based on external circumstances. In contrast, individuals who report generally high levels of self-esteem but experience considerable fluctuations in their feelings of self-worth over time (i.e., unstable high self-esteem) are thought to possess a relatively fragile form of high self-esteem because these frequent changes in their self-esteem suggest that the positive views expressed by these individuals are at least somewhat uncertain.

Self-esteem instability has been found—both by itself and in conjunction with self-esteem level—to be associated with a variety of important life outcomes including anger (Kernis, Grannemann, & Barclay, 1989), aggression (Zeigler-Hill, Enjaian, Holden, & Southard, 2014), defensiveness (Zeigler-Hill, Chadha, & Osterman, 2008), interpersonal style (Zeigler-Hill, Clark, & Beckman, 2011), humor style (Vaughan, Zeigler-Hill, & Arnau, in press), academic outcomes (Zeigler-Hill et al., 2013), and psychopathology (e.g., Zeigler-Hill & Wallace, 2012; see Jordan & Zeigler-Hill, 2013, for a review). These results are consistent with the view that unstable high self-esteem reflects vulnerable feelings of self-worth that require external validation as well as some degree of self-deception (see Kernis, 2003, for a review). Unstable high self-esteem is thought to be associated with a wide array of negative outcomes (e.g., poor psychological adjustment, defensiveness) because this form of high self-esteem may lack the protective mechanisms that seem to shield those with stable high self-esteem from experiencing these outcomes. These results suggest that self-esteem instability is an important moderator of the associations that self-esteem level has with an array of life outcomes. Our goal for the present study was to examine whether self-esteem instability also moderates the association that self-esteem level has with the desire for fame.

In the study description provided at the link, you’ll read that fragile (unstable) high self-esteem women tend to be “unrealistically optimistic” and mean-spirited. Sounds about right. You know the type: Those hyperactive drama whores who backstab perceived enemies one minute with foul-tempered fury and then crow about how great life is the next with a phony sing-song chirpiness that’s carried aloft by bluebirds and garland.

The fame-starved, superficially high self-esteem girl (a close cousin of the BPD girl) is the bread and butter of nightgame pickup artists. To game one of these chicks, you have to know first that feeding her fragile ego is absolutely the OPPOSITE of what you should do. Once a SHiSE girl has gotten her external validation, her vagina shuts down. To keep that vagina open and curious, her ego needs to be kept on tenterhooks, always waiting and anticipating but never getting that next hit of validation. Not without clauses and stipulations, at any rate.

And do you know what game tactics perfectly exploit this innate weakness in the female psyche?

Disqualification (“Oh, we would never hit it off. You’re too uptight”).

Negs (“Nice hamster. Is it real?”).

Warning: You would never want to LTR or wife up a SHiSE woman. Her constant annoying need for validation will either drive you insane or drive you to jealousy when she strays to get her feels from other men. Cheating is almost inevitable with these types of girls, because one man can only externally validate her so much before the value of his validation, no matter how tantalizingly wielded, drops below the price of inflating her ego.

Maxim #29: Think of female egos and female vaginas as opposing forces. The more one is stroked, the less the other wants to be stroked.





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  1. Exactly the type that likes restraints, forced fellatio, hair puling, choking and extreme submission and sexual humiliation. Boy they’re fun!

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    • on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 pm Toronto women are not sex objects

      I’ll file a complaint to your server host and ISP for misogyny and hate speech

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      • Doesn’t that shit read as though it could have been been written by version “0.0.0.1” of an artificial intelligence routine?

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      • Ha! Hilarious.

        “Toronto women are not sex objects” – You are insulting Toronto women, troll. I am sure many of them are good enough to be sex objects.

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      • Hate speech? You’re cracking me up down here

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      • on August 15, 2014 at 7:40 pm braveagnosticg

        No, i am the one who is starting to feel a Little misogyny, because as a bisexual i am hurt how women get the attention of men 😦 the West should return to the old ways where it valued boys as the best, not the actual female worshipping culture, ugh

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      • The Canadian men I know despise Canadian women. You’re perfect example.

        “Boo hoo, my widdle feelings are hurt.”

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      • guys, i think ‘toronto women are not sex objects’ is performance art.

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      • on August 15, 2014 at 9:28 pm Hugh G. Rection

        The People’s Republic of Canada, where all speech is free except some woman gets her fweelings hurt.

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  3. Where’s the CH page that collates all your maxims?

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  4. It’s almost as if the vagina has its own form of consciousness.

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    • on August 15, 2014 at 1:44 pm Sharon Parker

      A woman’s vagina is not a sexual object for you to degrade and disrespect. If your mother did not have vagina, you wud not have been born to post ur misogynist rant!

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      • Tit pix, or STFU.

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      • “Z0mbie Shane” is old school Oscar Mayer Wiener Academy.

        But I wonder whether maybe he might be part of the programming team which is writing this new trollbot software routine?

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      • All your good for is your vagina and sammich making abilities.

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      • Yes, I admit it. I am a Kielbasa. Now, it’s almost the Sabbath, so I have to head off to synagogue. I will see you all on Sunday. Shalom!

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      • More like a Hebrew National frank… do you plump when cooked?

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      • If you reduce the value of your vagina to something degraded, you cannot blame others for disrespecting it.

        If you treat your vagina like a holy representative of the Yoni/Divine Feminine, then for better or worse, the men you come into contact will view it as the same…either as a sacred labyrinth they wish to explore forever, or as a temple whose shade they are unworthy to be cooled by…but not as a degraded object.

        You have to treat your whole body and your consciousness the same though.

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      • My mother’s breech birthing vagina damn near KILLED me.

        It broke my clavicle, sprained my neck, and put me in an incubator.

        Yet her signature story of that hospital stay remains how they made her get out of bed four times to take a sponge bath.

        Oh, and where’s my fucking foreskin, btw?

        Now haul your Toronto twat in the kitchen and make someone a sandwich

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  5. Statistically speaking, the big question here is whether this phenomenon has always been with us [but was kept in check by ancient moral codes and social mores], or whether, as the Oscar Mayer Wiener Academy turns up the heat, the situation is worsening [and then whether the worsening is worsening, i.e. whether our society is ACCELERATING towards its doom, or whether it is merely drifting towards the edge of the cliff].

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    • Speaking of “longitudinal” datasets, this new wave of trolls which Axelrod and Sunstein have sent over here are really horrible. The old ones at least stuck to time-tested Oscar Mayer Wiener Academy techniques for steering a discussion into the sewer, but these new ones are completely nuts.

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      • Good help is hard to find these days…

        … even for Yahudis of beau coup shekels with which to seed the Cloud.

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      • Their comments actually read as though they were written by “trollbots” – as though Buegle or Whoreacle or Fuckerbook or the Mossad or whomever is testing the “Alpha” version of the software against the reactions of the resident KKKomentariat of the Chateau.

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      • Like that “Ibi” troll which was bragging about sodomizing its post-menopausal jewess of a wife in her anus – that shit read as though it had been written by version “0.0.0.1” of an artificial intelligence routine.

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      • I can’t believe you don’t find this one funny. He/She/It is hilarious.

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      • I don’t know. “Ms” Toronto is quite amusing.

        “Those who detest Toronto are unfit for living in Toronto and they more than likely suffer from retardation.”

        “Tracking devices and in-eye cameras should be installed in every male in Toronto”

        We already have the random Daily Mail headline generator and the post-modernist generator – this reads like a skewed feminist boilerplate generator, but it’s at least amusing.

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      • i kinda agree….its fun to play with.

        then again i get bored a lot

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      • on August 15, 2014 at 6:58 pm gunslingergregi

        yea the stories coming back from my chick kind of tame
        so the chicks bringing her back some crazy made up shit
        kind of fun having an army of bitches out their talking shit

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      • on August 15, 2014 at 7:06 pm gunslingergregi

        bitches always gonna talk about something might as well be you

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      • @Zombie Shane et. al: joking aside, what do you make of Unz’s M.O. with his Review?

        He sure goes out of his way to pipe in the swipes at “race realists” (his scare quotes), considering he has some of the most prominent members of said group on his platform.

        Is this some pennies-to-dollars version of Geffen (was it?) buying the Sierra Club’s silence on immigration? Trying to ride out the rise of post-post-racial politics as some sort of neo-Neo-Con?

        Unz really pitches the “Mexicans are our new Italians” schtick, with a barely-contained sneer at the obvious suspects. Otoh, he’s fairly convinced Kiev shot down MH17, which does put him on the side of the angels where THAT story is concerned.

        I was bitterly amused by your remark in the previous thread, about Mrs iSteve dropping the shekels at kohl’s, but do you see Sailer as already ‘owned’, or is it more a question of predicting the inevitable?

        Or will this all play out like Mickey Kaus working for Tina Brown/Derbyshire and the NRO, with an acrimonious breakup (from which Unz flies free as some Radical Centrist on a Senate run)?

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      • http://goldensextant.com/commentary35.html#anchor16319

        “Like most denizens of the dissident world, we were dismayed by the revelation last Friday that Cass Sunstein, the former Harvard Law Professor who is now head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, had co-authored, some two years ago, a how-to manual for the suppression of dissent in a nominally free society.

        Let’s be clear. Conspiracy Theories is not a work of scholarship, even by the debased standards of today’s knowledge-producing institutions. It is the musing of a cynical toady auditioning for the job of Minister of Truth in an Orwellian dystopia.

        Let’s be even clearer. Cass Sunstein would never write such a thing. We knew Cass Sunstein in law school. Cass Sunstein was an affable fellow, a brilliant student, and a terrific squash player. He was also a liberal thinker in the best tradition, devoted to the concepts of individual liberty and free speech, and dedicated to the ideal of America. No way did Cass Sunstein write Conspiracy Theories.

        Yet, troublingly, his name is on the piece, and we are not aware of any disavowal.

        We conclude therefore that the mind of Professor Sunstein is now the plaything of monsters from outer space. They got him, they control him still, and they are making him write vile things against his will.

        Stay strong, inner Cass. We know what it’s like to be hijacked by aliens. We’re pulling for you, Dude.”

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  6. on August 15, 2014 at 1:42 pm Sharon Parker

    To all of you MRAS who go on witch hunts when female teachers have sex with their students, you are misogynists and women-haters!!!

    MRAs, MGTOWs and PUAs deliberately destroy women’s self esteem by restricting their rights as a woman.

    How would you men feel if your government criminalized the purchase of escort sex or increased the age of legal consent to 30 years of age?

    Maybe you should respect women, and women will not hold you suspicious.

    Your friend Roossh was terribly wrong to bash innocent Toronto women because he does not meet the standards of women.

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  7. on August 15, 2014 at 1:46 pm Toronto women are not sex objects

    A feminist’s mental capacity and I.Q. exceed the I.Q. of men by far. The Canadian city of Toronto has all the pieces in place to become a major worldwide city such as Manhattan, London, Paris et cetera – the city of Toronto can now boast world class theater, a thriving real estate market and hot independent career women.

    Toronto has no shortage of theme parks and attractions to spend summer … Canada’s Wonderland, Toronto Zoo & more offer world-class fun in one of the best cities in the world. Toronto is the best city in the world because of the growing economy and demand for upscale housing by female professional class Torontonians.

    Toronto has been named the best city in the world for young adults, according to an index from YouthfulCities. Toronto women between the ages of 18-30 are independent, and can live happily without a man. Independent young females are an indicator of Toronto as a city for equality.

    Toronto has tripled its number of skyscrapers from 13 to 44 in the last 9 years, and more people move to Toronto because the job market and public schools are intellectually superior to the world. The average 18-30 year old independent female in Toronto earns on average $50,000 Canadian dollars a year because they are smart. The women in this career demographic are also physically fit, have purer blood, cleaner skin, less odorous farts, clean digestive systems, and tighter vaginas than oppressed women. The money earned by career women in Toronto is used to make herself more superior to the women of other nations, making 18-30 year old Caucasian Toronto women the master race of the world.

    Those who detest Toronto are unfit for living in Toronto and they more than likely suffer from retardation. The idea that a Caucasian Toronto woman’s blood could be pure is genetically possible as men live fewer years than women.

    Independent Toronto women would ideally be a pure race of white women who would be suited to rule the world, and men will lick their feet and eat their bodily waste as a means of survival. Feminism is the only choice for men in today’s society, and to criticize a white Toronto woman is racist, sexist and mental assault on innocent women. Men were responsible for oppressing millions of Caucasian women for thousands of years.

    Independent Caucasian women in Toronto are the supreme beings of the world. In fact, compared to the independent Toronto Caucasian women, other men are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Male Toronto misogynists are considered donkeys and jackasses at best.

    Toronto is a utopia which is the envy of the patriarchy. Caucasian women are the masters of this new society, and for that reason, men like Elliot Rodger will continue to victimize innocent women through their blatant misogyny. Tracking devices and in-eye cameras should be installed in every male in Toronto for the safety of our women

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    • “Toronto is a utopia which is the envy of the patriarchy.”

      and

      “Tracking devices and in-eye cameras should be installed in every male in Toronto for the safety of our women”

      —————————-

      LOLOLOLOL

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    • on August 15, 2014 at 3:45 pm Emahray Trolle

      30 years ago I visited some nudie bars in Toronto. The gals were butt naked and fairly attractive.

      Anyone here know the current situation for Toronto gentlemen’s clubs? Has the Feminist Civic Relief Society unionized the strip club scene there or can a fella expect a good time through free-market entertainment?

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      • They’re moving to Toronto because:
        a) they don’t know French ,so Montreal might be problematic
        b) Vancouver’s too far
        c) the rest of Canada’s too empty (soon to be emptier, see 1st sentence)
        or
        d) all the IT jobs in India are already taken

        Toronto might be a utopia if you like outdoor ice skating in April, I’ll take Hawaii, thx.

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    • Are people actually paying attention to this male troll? Screamers like “Independent Caucasian women in Toronto are the supreme beings of the world.” are being taken seriously?

      “Caucasian women are the masters” can’t even get the nouns right.

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  8. on August 15, 2014 at 1:47 pm Toronto women are not sex objects

    Maybe the reason u can’t get laid in the states or Canada is because u r worthless, chauvinist and sexist pigs. May you live forever in loneliness while I get my anus licked and my vagina penetrated by a man who respects me as a human being 🙂

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  9. It’s over for this site, the cunt juice now pollutes every new article. So long all maybe the true renaissance will begin somewhere else.

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  10. “crow about how great life is” the genius of facebook. be 90% of american women’s spot for conspicuous preening.

    btw as a young beta nice guy i’ve had these girlfriends. they specifically don’t respond to your esteem-boosting attempts, even early on, _because_ you’re nice. they need a guy they believe would tell them they’re ugly so that they can believe it when the guy tells them they’re beautiful. nice guys lose all around. unless they learn.

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    • yeah, and they are the same girls always complaining that they can’t find a nice guy who will treat them right. always the victim and never taking responsibility for their own unhappiness. miserable creatures.

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  11. Could the women seeking fame (which CH correctly points out that men gain a much higher SMV boost from) be yet another manifestation of women wanting to invade man-world and ruin everything?

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    • No need for the bitter omega angle. Women want fame because it is validation from the group, and women have always survived through other people. For tens of thousands of years, men could survive on their own, women could not. This is also why they use a larger vocabulary on average per day: they need to communicate with the group to survive. It is also why they prefer to live in cities more than men do, where the group can surround and protect them. It is also why they are always more loyal to the ruling orthodoxy, whatever that is in their time and country.

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  12. CH for the win

    Once again not only proving the theme of the post but reconfirming me in my view that women from Toronto really are (and I speak from experience) the most unpleasant, entitled, narcissistic and sexually promiscuous women in the west. They did not invent the term Canadian Secretary Syndrome (i.e. frequenters of 3rd world gigolos) without good reason.

    Eating fresh wasp would be preferable.

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  13. Going to Bangkok can qualify as a male version of seeking validation. Just walk past Nana Plaza to feel like the most handsome man in the world…

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  14. Hey Scray, what’s your gameplan for mixed sets, groups?

    I think that’s my last real hurdle besides leading. The rest is just doing it over and over again to ingrain it.

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    • Depends on how you’re rolling and what venue you are at. Are you rolling solo, with one wing, or with your own group? And is the venue a bar, a club, or something different?

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  16. It seems to me that projection is the main reason why women tend to crave fame more: if they find famous men more attractive then why wouldn’t men find famous women more attractive? On the flip side, men don’t find fame to significantly boost a woman’s attractiveness and so most men don’t realize how much fame would improve their own attractiveness to women.

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    • This was my first thought: pure projection. Same reason women brag about their advanced degrees in human resources because they are attracted to educated men, or women brag about their career success because they want a man with career success. No one with a dick cares, ladies.

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  17. OMG LMFAO @ “dem cray cray eyes” 😂😂😂😂

    I almost gave up on you CH.

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    • Was recently in a college town for a pub crawl. Every african boy I saw was with a damaged-goods white girl and every black girl I saw was without a man of any skin tone. Hurts, doesn’t it?

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  18. Going to Bangkok can qualify as a male version of seeking validation. Just walk past Nana Plaza to feel like the most handsome man in the world…

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=871_1406217895

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  19. Negs (“Nice hamster. Is it real?”).

    Could someone explain to me if this is telling the female psyche you know of the hamster and asking if this is the hamster I can trust? Or is this asking the hamster is this how you really are with sarcastic intention?

    Still not stable with my Negs yet.

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    • A neg is an accidental indication of disinterest…which is a form of active disinterest…you don’t mean anything by it you just pointed it out…also actively disinterested body language is just as or probably more affective…back-turn or body rocking

      [CH: correct. a neg that is delivered as if it were intentional is more precisely called an insult.]

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  20. The shame of it is that the majority of women believe in the trollbots type of BS. Its all good though free’er access to pussy.

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  21. Well written. When I get the chance, I’ll check out the older articles that pertain to unstable self-esteem.

    Speaking of unstable self – esteem: you guys need to just ignore these trolls. You’re feeding them validation no matter how you respond to them.

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  22. […] The Female Addiction To Self-Esteem | Chateau Heartiste […]

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  23. What is it with girls making the time out sign with their hands for photos? I know this is a little off topic but the only place to ask is somewhere in the manosphere.

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  24. Come to think of Histrionic personality disorder, which is indeed an interesting phenomenon that CH of course knows of, although has not written much about as far as the search results show. Perhaps you should treat it more as a specific topic?

    http://swedishdissident.blogspot.se/2011/08/skadespelare-i-din-omgivning.html
    Ps. The post is written in Swedish, although with a lot of quotes in English, as well some further reading tips.

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  25. I heard a gangbanger from Toronto on the radio one time, and it was hard to stop laughing. “It’s aboot time these other motherfookers stopped messin’ with us, eh? We’re going to go out, eh?, and show these fookers we mean business, eh?!”

    It was as funny as the time I pissed off a guy with a s-s-s-tutter, and he tried to cuss me out in a rage. “You b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bitch! I’m going to k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-kill you motherf-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-fucker!”

    I don’t care who you are, if you stutter or try to talk like an urban tough in a Canuk accent, I’m going to laugh at you, eh?

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  26. Previously, I thought it was just low self-esteem that lead women to grab 12 cocks in order to be validated. Perhaps the relevant marker for total slutitude is the size of the self-esteem expectation-reality gap. Which would explain things like Belle Knox, and the girl in the last post.

    Men don’t care about fame for fame’s sake because there are no men who are famous who didn’t first accomplish something. Now that something can be entirely negative (Boston Bomber), but there are no male Kim K/Paris Hilton’s walking around.

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    • on August 15, 2014 at 6:47 pm JenkPac Shakur

      Aren’t you forgetting Kevin Federline?

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      • Was KFed famous when he was just and an unemployed oil driller with 1 kid and another on the way? or is his fame the result of him spreading his seed into the most famous pop singer of the era and a woman who tha majority teen male of the late 90s and early 00s lusted for at one point or another?

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      • Doesn’t go far enough… At brittneys peak she was the most recognized and lusted after woman in the world, arguably. kfed at his prime was just someone suing for custody and alimony and child support. :>

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      • Almost. KFed, in his prime, is the man who procreated with the most lusted after woman on the planet. And unlike Jay-Z, he did it without being famous, rich, and/or powerful.

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  27. Dunno ’bout this ‘unstable’ self-esteem business, most US girls’ self-esteem seems to be rock-solid, as well as several tens of billions of notches over the top.
    Why wouldn’t it be, even below-average-hopefully-not-next-door type girls get validated like movie stars on Facebook, Twitter, Tinder, via texts, emails and whatnots constantly, 24/7/365.
    Add to that the obesity epidemic (CDC warned the other day of a 40% rate of diabetes across the board!!!!), and what you get is the super-mega-ultra- pedestalization of any female even slightly above average.
    Stir in round-the-clock bombardment by the media and they start thinking of themselves as princesses, queens or even goddesses.
    Brains by Verizon.

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    • Psychology can at times be a pseudo science. But promising a bitch fame or implying it to the point that she believes you, will render her your sex slave

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  28. on August 15, 2014 at 6:44 pm JenkPac Shakur

    Histrionic Personality Disorder is the “close cousin” of Borderline Personality Disorder. Infact some psyche docs (well at least James. F. Masterson) thinks they are the same disorder. Though yeah HPD’s don’t seem to exhibit the rage and visible self injury (cutting) the BPD is prone to do.

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    • I read a study that stated that over 20% of US women have some form of BPD.

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      • monkey: “20% of US women have some form of BPD.”
        I’d put that number significantly higher – like maybe in the 40-50% range..

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      • I recently dated a woman who had many, not all, of the signs of BPD. Mostly it was her lack of empathy and the related issues that caused. BPD is caused primarily from a baby not bonding to her mother. This causes the brain circuitry to become screwed up. Im sure alot of this can be traced directly to the working mother problem and these mothers essentially abandoning their babies at birth. The study of BPD, NPD and other somatic and Histrionic disorders is still a young theory. I don’t consider Psychology a hard science, but its observations are very interesting.

        So maybe there is more. I just use caution with giving labels to peoples behaviors. The Psychs do this far to often with harmful consequences. I will say that American women have a moral problem as much as a Psych problem.

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      • on August 16, 2014 at 9:15 am Hugh G. Rection

        Could also be over-diagnosed. I’d say many women use this to excuse their shitty personalities.

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      • Nah I disagree with the mother issue Monkey. My sister is BPD and my mother is the most tender-loving woman there is.

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      • Just referencing what I read and my BPD ex had the same mommy issues.BPD is still not perfectly understood. Were both probably right and wrong.

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    • I heard a theory that one of the reasons why men suffer more mental illnesses than women isn’t that men suffer more mental illnesses, its that female mental illness presents a lot differently. It wouldn’t surprise me if feminism has prevented women from receiving the treatment they need as it has normalized behavior which are the manifestation of biological abnormalities.

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  30. Reblogged this on Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar and commented:
    “Think of female egos and female vaginas as opposing forces. The more one is stroked, the less the other wants to be stroked.”
    I think CH needs to bring out a t-shirt line because I’d wear that for the irony.

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    • You can get ‘quaintly anachronistic’ at a much lower cost. Skate or bike to the store, use a (non-smart) cell phone from 2006, bake your own bread, paint Airfix toy soldiers, don’t get tattooed, don’t Twitter….and soon, you’ll feel like a relic from a lost civilization.

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  32. “Toronto women are not sex objects”

    If they’re ugly/fat/bitchy enough, sure, but do you really want to admit that?

    “A feminist’s mental capacity and I.Q. exceed the I.Q. of men by far”

    Which explains why feminists are way more likely than men to get degrees in engineering or hard physical sciences, earn Nobel prizes in science, get patents — oops, they don’t manage half the rate of those that men do. Back to your SCUM membership drive at Starbucks, dearie; your brain is too short for this ride.

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    • Feminism aside, more women are earning degrees in hard sciences, and eventually will earn awards, etc. A woman just won the Field’s Medal. Women *just* entered the collegiate environment in the 1950s, and only were accepted into science programs in large numbers in the 60s/70s. It’s been a slow crawl.

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  33. And add that, in modern society, fame can often be obtained through victimhood, and we got a real vicious cycle.

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  35. Maxim 29. Perfect.

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  36. ‘Unstable high self-esteem’, eh? Is that the millennial’s way of saying ‘unstable’?

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  37. ‘Unstable high self esteem’, eh? Is that the millennial’s way of saying ‘unstable’?

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  38. “”Those hyperactive drama whores who backstab perceived enemies one minute with foul-tempered fury and then crow about how great life is the next with a phony sing-song chirpiness that’s carried aloft by bluebirds and garland.”” Too true.

    Ex gf whom I’ve written about caused drama at an event I organized. Then 6 weeks later after no contact sent me a “belated happy birthday to u” text.

    The problem here for guys who either have no experience with this…or don’t understand the type is to falsely believe that outreach like this is evidence of some sort of reconciliation or desire to be in contact. It isn’t. It’s a cheap attempt to gain attention and validation.

    In the above case I ignored it for a week….then fired off a late night text: “Oh…”

    I knew that would fuck with her head and from the look on her face when I did see her out…it was clear that had hit its mark. But…there’s no point in hitting the ball across the net.

    The learning here is I can game and bang hot chicks…but now at the first signs of bizarre drama I disengage and disappear. As the study indicates, white knights and beta shlubs get sucked into their sexless vortex and spin around like so much soiled laundry.

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  39. LINK – PART OF THE BROAD MOSAIC OF MODERN EUROPEAN NATIONALIST MOVEMENTS

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  40. on August 15, 2014 at 9:39 pm Mean Mr. Mustard.

    Wise old Uncle George had a thing or two to say about Self Esteem.
    Just apply to women.

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  41. What did Bob and Doug Mckenzie have to say about women from Toronto ans self esteem? Was it all wrapped up in jelly donoughts and back bacon eh?

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  42. “Airplane almost falls out of the sky because *female* co-pilot was playing with her iPad http://ow.ly/AnRkg

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  43. Their hunger for fame is just a hunger ffor alpha.

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  44. Maxim: ” Commanding women to do your bidding will give you a bigger beta margin of error when needed.”

    Can someone clarify this real quick? Maybe an example?

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    • Act douchebaggy all the time every time, collect your alpha points so that she won’t hold it against you if you act all beta once in a blue moon.

      Ex: You don’t help around the house for a solid month (housechores, dishes, dinner, …) then surpirse her her with breakfast in bed.

      Just to clarify you should not help a woman around the house. I should note that I am too good a cook (tasty and healty) to trust a woman with food, so just to be sure I’ll tell them they suck in the kitchen.

      Other example: You tell her she has put on some weight, that you don’t like what she is wearing, that she should consider breast augmentation, etc then suprise her with flowers.

      Just to be sure, you shouldn’t suprise her with anything, it’s just in case your sorry ass of a romantic heart feels like expressing his love to her.

      Here is a hit combo that I pulled on my co-worker (6.5-7 mom of two; 7.5-8 before the kids), it’s sort of a microexample of what I am talking about:

      Me: “Hi. You have done something to your hair. It’s looks nice.” (with a loving gaze) (betaish (noticing the new hairdo + compliment + gaze) on purpose since I was consciously hooking her for a hot/cold + teasing game)
      Her: “I am going to a wedding. blablabla” (listening without interrupting also beta)
      Her: “I have to buy a short dress.” (she is already talking to me like I am her gf)
      Me: “Are you gonna wear any panties?” (alpha, women are used to this behavior from me, should not try from the get-go if you are new)
      Her: “off course not. (starts flirting).”
      Then I transition into her having saggy tits and some fat around the hips. (which I have told her before), which is gonna make finding a fitting dress hard.
      Me: Drop some documents on the floor (clumsy beta behavior/I was in my head)
      Her: stands up and gets them for me.
      Me: “you like to get on your knees for me …” (sexual undertone)
      Her: (smiles)
      Me: I win.

      Alpha all the time, every time.

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    • the more alpha you internalize and just “are”, the more beta or “being yourself” then you can afford to be….

      its kinda an abstract zen thing.

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    • Tell them what to do or not do

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  45. Rollo posted this. Madonna/Whore slip…

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  46. This is why it is so easy to make women cry with words.

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    • Is that the pedofile of the Lost Prophets in your gravatar?

      I do not want to be rude, but why do you have him as your gravatar? It is highly upsetting, that creature is pure evil, he attempted to rape a 11 months old baby. Along with the vile sorry excuses for mothers. Evil, pure evil. The mothers were even worse, but he was still evil and even the photo of him is blood boiling and sick. They show have jailed him and the mothers and throw away the key.

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      • I think he is trying to make you cry with his gravatar.

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      • LP, you might be right.
        But I think most normal people would cry about that.

        I like to read here, CH science stuff is great, the opinions on issues that plague society and linking them to evo biology, is great. Some decent commentors also. But then that gravatar, it just so upsetting that it becomes difficult to focus on the point of the post.

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      • Think of it a state control practice. We use body language to joust with men and jest with women. Looking people in the eyes presents a bidirection canvas that seducers must master.

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    • Women make men cry with words; men make women cry with body language. You appear to be a newbie.

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  47. I remember hearing that women who get boob jobs have a higher rate of suicide same with people who get changes vs those who don’t

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    • That’s accurate. They have higher rates of depression and often find themselves more unhappy AFTER the surgery because it didn’t change their lives in the ways they expected it to.

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  58. Unstable high self esteem women (usually hot) are most likely to attention whore. They don’t need to date up in looks to gain ego, nor to withhold sex to gain ego (and as such are usually dying to give it up), but will readily move to whomever improves her material or social status (which improves attention in a way that she needs) amongst her peers.

    High self esteem damaged women, in general, recover almost instantly from ego sleights, but at the same time can more easily move on because they have less emotional investment in people outside of themselves and so “recovery” may include your instant ousting if the ego sleight was significant enough. She may just decide that you aren’t worth it (usually brought on by your pissy, angry beta behavior rather than good natured alpha ribbings). She can’t relate to people who know depression.

    The undamaged high self esteem woman is the grail, is exceedingly rare (I’ve only known a couple in my almost four decades of life) and is viciously competed for by males that know how to spot a quality personality in a woman. She is likely to want and need the full package in a man in the long term. She will rightly and ruthlessly cut men with anything less than perfectly adjusted personalities (as hers is) for long term consideration, will easily and legitimately befriend lesser men (everyone wants to be her friend because she’s fucking cool) , but will also often date below league because she doesn’t want or need anything from anyone else to complete her as a person. You’ll sometimes see them with pathetic men (not permanently) as well as men that are out of her peer group. She is most likely to wind up with the golden boy who hasn’t decided that undamaged lower-self esteem women are the easiest (as many do). She may also remain unmarried because of her high standards, and will often be okay with that.

    Low self esteem damaged women (usually ugly) are more likely to need to date above their league in looks for a self esteem bump (6s acting like 9s) and to play strange games with average guys so that they will supplicate (ego boost) without her having to give up sex. She gets approached more often for sex than does the high self esteem woman. She is used to guys thinking that she gives up sex easily, and has learned to get an ego bump by turning down average guys and fucking hotter guys who also are only using her for sex. In contrast with the high self esteem woman, her ego is best served by fucking a guy with better looks rather than better status.

    Unstable low self esteem women are likely to ruthlessly implode relationships at the slimmest chance of avoiding self esteem insults or gaining the most marginal of self-esteem bumps. They are larger slaves to their ego, because it is so small, and they viciously hold onto and defend whatever they have. A single ego insult can reverberate for months if not years, and so everything is on the line when it is even unknowingly challenged (watch out alpha men). A vicious attack may result.

    Low self esteem but otherwise well-adjusted women will more readily fuck average guys, perhaps even more readily than damaged high self esteem women.Though, they may be more prone to needing commitment than any other type(which can be good if tht is the type of relationship that you are seeking).. They are easy to know and date as long as you are nice enough to them (alphas used to more difficult women may need to tone it down slightly lest you intimidate them too much). They are the best match for betas and lesser alphas (high self esteem damaged types are also good matches but the relationship is way more dysfunctional in that the sex roles are switched entirely when she is with a beta – lesser alphas need to hold the reigns tight), and will often marry them, but will also be secretly unhappy as any woman is with a beta. Luckily for the beta, she is the least likely to leave him but will highly resent it if forced into the leader role that is the most unnatural for this type.

    My order:

    1. High self esteem well adjusted (The Unicorn – hard to both find and land, and need to keep your inner game tight to have s shot at making her happy. Excellent emotional intelligence and is nice to everyone. A pleasure to know, but everyone else also thinks so. She may have married the true golden boy from high school [also exceedingly well adjusted and nice]. Watch out for competition from that easy-going 6’3″ surfer with golden locks and a future job at his dad’s investment bank or the essentially same guy, but a little more bohemian, who just got back from Tibet and knows how to ride a motorcycle. She will keep at a distance many guys that other girls go for, mostly the ones who create identities for themselves rather than being who they truly are. Like I said, your inner game has to be tight.)
    2. Low self esteem well adjusted. (By far the easiest for anyone who isn’t a true alpha, and is so easy that many true alphas even learn to go here because it represents the least work for the happiest female for them and this female will be emotionally centered (relatively and for the most part) moms to their kids.
    3. High self-esteem and damaged or otherwise sociopathic (Fun as hell but prone to sluttery and hypergamy. Good for fucking, bad for LTR.)
    4. Low self-esteem and damaged (The worst type of girl. Superficially fun, many times because of the high rate of alcoholism in this group, but will sacrifice you and everyone else for her self-esteem. More likely to be bad in bed, more likely to be fat, ugly, jaded, and adoptive of the ‘girl-that’s-a-guy’ personality in an attempt to boost her social acceptance amongst men. Most likely to be a feminist but not really know much about it. Many guys do become tricked by the ‘I’m your best friend in a girls body’ personality, and think they’ve found a girl that they can talk to, but in reality have found the most dangerous, undesirable personality in a woman. If the guy is good looking, he will lay an unstable ego whore, and if he is bad looking he can expect reduced returns for similar levels of alpha-ness in this category vs other categories).

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