Reader Mailbag: Emailer Gives An Update About Girlfriend Drama

The first subject reader from last week’s Reader Mailbag has responded with an update about his situation involving his Asian girlfriend and her doctor colleague she said was hitting on her. All three were going to be in attendance at an upcoming party, and the potential for some kind of confrontation was high.

Hi guys,

I’m #1, the guy dating the Asian chick who wrote to the Chateau. Thanks to the proprietors and the readers for their help, was most useful.

So Friday night was interesting, when we show up this other guy’s there, I split from my girl to say hi to some friends and see him make a beeline for her, at which point she promptly turns her back on him, one of her other friends (an acquaintance of mine) intervenes and appears to tell him to back off. She heads straight back to me and complains about the ‘creep from work’ hitting on her again.

At this point I’m nigh on certain that she’s not attracted to him, and a little later I introduce myself to this suitor and assertively ask “if hitting on taken women is part of his Hippocratic Oath” (credit to the Chateau). [ed: *preen*] Within seconds it becomes clear why my lover finds this man repulsive – as soon as I corner him and speak these words, he wilts. His body language reeks of intimidation and he stammers out apologies before giving me, my lover and our friends a wide berth for the rest of the night. Just goes to show that even if a man has looks and professional success, he needs the alpha male attitude to go with them.

Later that night she whispers “thanks for taking care of that creep, I heard you scared the shit out of him.” One weekend of rampant sex, home-cooked meals and all round adoration later and seems she’s wrapped around my finger more tightly than ever.

My interpretation of why she disclosed his advances to me: partially to make me jealous and an indirect request for my intervention. Regarding the confusion about blue collar/white collar terminology – I’m from the UK and unfamiliar with this Americanism, ‘white collar’ would be a better description of my profession.

P.S. When I first started reading this blog I thought so much of it was utter bullshit, nevertheless thought I’d might as well try and it and absolutely everything works. Case in point, flirting with a few other girls at this party who I know are into me, one year ago I thought this would make anyone I was dating pissed, uh uh, all the competition seems to do is produce gina tingles. Fuck having wasted 25 years as a blue piller, god bless the day I swallowed the red pill.
-Alex.

Well played, sir, and may the god of biomechanics be ever at your side, (or at least until your reproductive career is over).

It sounds from your update that your girlfriend was following CH reasons #1 and #2. She wanted a touch of drama by inciting jealousy, and a touch of reassurance by inciting signals of commitment from you, usually in the form of a “let’s you and him fight” white knight-ish intervention between her and her illicit pursuer, if necessary.

Those interventions can be tricky; they are high risk, high reward opportunities, and if done properly will cause ginas to explode in a meteor shower of tingles. But if executed poorly, a woman’s admiration will quickly turn to disappointment, even disgust.

The white knight reflex is often misdeployed by toolbags, but it is occasionally called for; one occasion is when your girlfriend is being aggressively pursued by another man who knows she is taken, and has the gall to pursue her in your presence. So I’d say you were justified in confronting the doctor. Once you have probable cause, the next hurdle is to intervene in a cool-headed way. Save the raging chimpouts for the meatheads guarding their tramp stamped whorems. No chick with even a modicum of classy femininity will appreciate a chimpout at some SWPL soiree. If you overreact, you tool yourself. Jealous overreaction is as much a tell of neediness and insecurity as is retiring self-defeatism.

Your handling of the doctor was perfect. I told you most of them are pussies and a pinpoint jab is all you’d need to cut him at the knees.





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  1. on September 10, 2013 at 8:32 am AlmostAnonymous

    I love a happy ending.

    *nudge nudge wink wink*

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    • on September 10, 2013 at 9:02 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzozozizzizozo

      HEY HEATTEITSEZ!!! DA SAME THINGZ HAPPENED TO MEZ!!! WE MSUT RUN IN DA SAME CIRCLESZZ!!!

      Hi guys,

      I’m #2, da GBFM dating the Asian chick who wrote to the Chateau. Thanks to the proprietors and the readers for their help, was most useful.

      So Friday night was interesting, when we show up this other buttcokerz’s there, I split from my bitch to say hi to some friends and see him strap one on and make a beeline for her, at which point she promptly turns her back on him to take it up da butthozlzzizlzi, one of her other friends (an acquaintance of mine) joins in and begins to whack him off. She gives him head as he shoots his load straight back to me and she complains about the ‘creep from work’ missing her her face again.

      At this point I’m nigh on certain that she’s not attracted to him, and a little later I introduce myself to this suitor and assertively ask “if butthexting bernankifed women is part of his Hippocratic Oath” (credit to the Chateau). [ed: *preen*] Within seconds it becomes clear why my bitch finds this man repulsive – as soon as I corner him and speak these words, he takes his strap on off. His body language reeks of intimidation and he stammers out apologies before giving me, my lover and our friends a wide berth for the rest of the night–as wide as da GBFM occkas is longz lzozlzoz. Just goes to show that even if a man has looks and professional success and a big strap on dildo, he needs the alpha male attitude to go with them.

      Later that night she whispers “thanks for taking care of that creep, I heard you scared the shit out of him.” One weekend of rampant sex, home-cooked meals and all round adoration later and seems she’s wrapped around my cockasz more tightly than ever. Ouch!

      My interpretation of why she disclosed his advances to me: partially to make me jealous and an indirect request for my intervention. Regarding the confusion about blue collar/white collar terminology – I’m from the UK and unfamiliar with this Americanism, ‘white collar’ would be a better description of my profession as a porn actor.

      P.S. When I first started reading this blog I thought so much of it was utter bullshit, nevertheless thought I’d might as well try and it and absolutely everything works. Case in point, ginasexing with a few other girls at this party who I know are into me, one year ago I thought this would make anyone I was dating pissed, uh uh, all the cum on tehir facesz seems to do is produce gina tingles. Fuck having wasted 25 years as a blue baller, god bless the day she swallowed my load.
      -GBFM.

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    • > “Later that night she whispers “thanks for taking care of that creep, I heard you scared the shit out of him.” One weekend of rampant sex, home-cooked meals and all round adoration later and seems she’s wrapped around my finger more tightly than ever.”

      Dude, this one sounds like a keeper.

      Need to start pushing the envelope as regards the risky sex, without protection, a day or two before she ovulates.

      Get that bun in her oven to seal the deal.

      SRSLY.

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  2. The irony here is pretty high, I said to call a guy out for his behavior on an earlier post and got labeled ‘white knight’ now here is the exact advice to call a guy out.

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    • I think you are purposefully leaving out some context there, broheem.

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      • A bit, but I want to get to the truth here.

        This is some random girl he is banging, and the prior situation was some girl the guy was banging. The only difference is this girl is a doctor, they have both been short relationships so what is the difference?

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      • I see it less as white knighting and more protecting his property.

        Same reason people put signs on cars at car shows that say ‘hands off’.

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      • on September 10, 2013 at 12:33 pm gunslingergregi

        they were exclusive already man
        soap opera time

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    • The boob-grabber guy and the receptive girlfriend? The big difference there was that the “girlfriend” was welcoming that guy’s advances, revealing herself to be a tramp who doesn’t care about her supposed boyfriend.

      Alex’s girlfriend is responding appropriately to the unwanted attention. It bothers her, he is protecting her because she’s demonstrated she’s worthy of it.

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      • Amy got it. Now come on guys, if a woman can understand the difference, what’s your excuse? 😉

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      • “The boob-grabber guy and the receptive girlfriend? The big difference there was that the “girlfriend” was welcoming that guy’s advances, revealing herself to be a tramp who doesn’t care about her supposed boyfriend.”

        lol this. Fuckin spergers. “I PRESS GAS WHEN LIGHT IS GREEN WHY EVERYONE PANIC WHEN LIGHT IS RED????”

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      • lol this. Fuckin spergers. “I PRESS GAS WHEN LIGHT IS GREEN WHY EVERYONE PANIC WHEN LIGHT IS RED????”

        Lots of spergs out there…

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      • LOL they never fail to amuse in the comment section. “OK TO DEFEND LOYAL GIRLFRIEND BUT NOT OK TO DEFEND DISLOYAL SLOOT?!? F***ING MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?!?!?”

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      • on September 10, 2013 at 12:34 pm gunslingergregi

        yea I’d kill for the wife not for the exchick

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    • The only time it’s okay to ‘white knight’ is when you’re protecting your wife or LTR (i.e. a woman who has already proved her loyalty) from *unwanted* male attention. The girl in the earlier post was not in a serious relationship with the writer, and she actually seemed to enjoy the guy grabbing her boob. Not worth getting into an altercation over.

      Look at it this way: I am married. If a guy at a party grabbed my boob, my husband would get violent. But if I smiled and giggled at the boob grab, he wouldn’t have a problem with the guy – he’d have a problem with me.

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  3. “I’m from the UK and unfamiliar with this Americanism”

    This explains a lot.

    When somebody in the UK says “Asian” they mean Indian/Pakistani type of Asians, whereas when somebody in America says Asian they mean East Asians(Chinese looking ones).

    A lot of people were probably assuming he was dating a East Asian chick.

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    • Very few things make my blood boil; one, however, is when someone observes, “Oh, he’s into Asian women.” Completely meaningless. I can’t think of any groups more different than Japanese, Vietnamese, Chinese and Thai.

      I like Japanese gals preferably ainoko (haafu) – that was the self description my dear departed wife used for herself – don’t use it – kind of derogatory.

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      • It’s all the same to an outsider. I like Lithuanian women but they look similar to Estonian women. Likewise a Georgian would look similar to a Ukranian. Context, bro.

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      • No, European ethnicities don’t look exactly the same either. I’m particularly surprised you could mistake a Georgian for a Ukrainian.

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      • Georgians don’t look like Ukrainians, they look more like Azeris or Armenians, after all, they are just south of Chechnya.

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      • That was the point. We’re all in agreement. There are obvious differences if you know them but not to an outsider. An outsider will lump them all together.

        When knuckle-head’s blood was boiling he was betraying a certain nerdiness that is usually reserved for comic book geeks debating continuity and ignoring the fact that for most people ‘close’ is good enough.

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    • Either way he’s a race traitor.

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    • She’s Chinese (I’m Alex/#1).

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    • Maybe when he said he was “from the UK” a lot of people were probably assuming that he was a White Anglo, when in fact he was a spear-hurling negro or a scimitar-waving paki.

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    • This explains a lot.

      When somebody in the UK says “Asian” they mean Indian/Pakistani type of Asians, whereas when somebody in America says Asian they mean East Asians(Chinese looking ones).

      A lot of people were probably assuming he was dating a East Asian chick.

      Ding, ding, ding. Most picture the man who is dating an Asian chick in this e-mail, a white man with an East Asian woman. Most don’t seen an Arab woman (Central Asia and Middle East), nor do they see Indian/Bangladeshi woman (South Asian).

      Asian just means East Asia (Korean, Japanese, Chinese) and Southeast Asia (Thai, Filipinas, Vietnamese) to them. I think South Asian women don’t attract them because of their skin yellow-brown skin color (though they have Caucasoid faces and wavy/curly hair) and well Middle Eastern women are usually Muslim (though mostly Arab and Caucasoid too), so their religion is scary.

      Arab women from the Middle East, Central Asia and North Africa are actually pretty. South Asian women like Indians are kind of attractive too. I think East Asian women are cute too, but “Asia” isn’t just them. They are the perhaps some of the advanced Asians though. That’s a great attribute they have.

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  4. Have to agree on the doctor angle, having a large number of physician family and friends.

    The only ones that tend not to be that way are high end surgeons, ER docs, and those older veterans who’ve either done some foreign hellhole volunteer work or worked in the military hospitals. Something about all that blood, death, and destruction seems to toughen up their mental attitudes.

    The rest have the same problem that the rest of high IQ, lower social quotient have to deal with: lack of experience with women. Less time spent on the sports field, more time spent hitting the books.

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    • “The rest have the same problem that the rest of high IQ, lower social quotient have to deal with: lack of experience with women. Less time spent on the sports field, more time spent hitting the books.”

      This is what I’m talking about when I point out that having an amazing career and money and looks often means you can’t have much game, because all your free time is spent working and in the gym and you don’t get the social experience you need. Even if you added “learning game” to your workload you’d be adding hours of reading/watching vids to learn what game IS and how to apply it, not actual in-field hours. And without in-field hours, you don’t actually have game in the crunch…you may UNDERSTAND it, but you can’t APPLY it.

      That said, I think this next gen of guys will more organically discover the rules of Game earlier in life as it becomes more mainstream (thru the ample blogs like CH, MSM shit like Maxim ripping off PUA stuff, thru bros giving eachother actual red pill advice etc) and be less focused on chasing the white Pickett fence dream and will make more time for “partying” as they develop themselves. One of my social circles involves a bunch of now-graduated med students and when they had to study, they studied hard, but when they didn’t they partied harder than most normal people I know lol

      In the past most of those guys would probably have just stayed in when they weren’t studying, but the times they are a changin’. The rich successful ripped guy with game that is extremely rare right now and in the past, may become more common in future generations.

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      • You overestimate our species. Ya. Really.

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      • on September 10, 2013 at 12:44 pm Life at Calhoun's Lake

        “In the past most of those guys would probably have just stayed in when they weren’t studying, but the times they are a changin’. The rich successful ripped guy with game that is extremely rare right now and in the past, may become more common in future generations.”

        Lol. Not too rare. Perhaps not common but the type’s around. The guys I run with may not all be jacked, but they damn well better be successful with money AND with girls cause our lifestyle chews em up and spits em out if they aren’t. You’re in LA though, right? I don’t fuck with the West Coast often, but I can see the “successful” types being on the softer side out there. Those in the good old boy circles of the Midwest and East tend to be more hardnosed.

        Are there gameless lawyers, doctors, and bankers cluelessly encrusted in the fantasy football and HGTV lifestyle? Absolutely. But most guys in general are robotic schlubs. Atleast from my experience, the percentage of men that have banished themselves to the white picket hellhole with the first Mrs. Chubbs to take their bait is far higher amongst the leagues of engineers, accountants, and non college educated tradesmen than from the pool of those in the upper tier careers.

        It’s the men on the edges that possess game. On one hand you have the hicks in their cut off flannels driving their jacked up scrap metal. The white trash goons that live and die by the weed and booze. The low end pyramid scheme hustlers. On the other side you got judges and venture capitalists. Heirs to old money tycoons. Both sides got game. It’s the mushy middle 90% where you find the sea of schlubs.

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      • Their jobs are irrelevant, is all. I ignore everything about a guy when I first meet him, when it comes to judging his game. All it comes down to is when I see a girl ping on his radar, that I know he’s attracted to, does he go for her or not.

        Everything else is irrelevant. If some mushy chubby effeminate accountant is approaching hotties while the rich judge badass who tears up board meetings and closes multi-million dollar deals says “she looks busy” or “after this drink”, the accountant has my respect and the judge is just another AFC in alpha clothing.

        It’s entirely possible for a rich 6-packed dude to BE this, but it’s rare. More common is the group of rich 6-packed guys who all TALK like they’re like that, but are closing uglies and calling up hookers at 2am lol. The thing is their talk is super convincing to anyone outside of their group, and they often even believe it themselves.

        That’s why I ignore it all and wait until there’s a hot girl in front of them. That’s where I see whether they’re alpha in reality or in their minds.

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      • That’s a good test.

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      • Keep in mind that I don’t even care if the guy GETS the girl. You can’t get every girl, that’s just marketing lol you can’t control whether a girl will react well to you (tho you can tilt the odds in your favor highly with game), but you can control whether you TRY or not.

        What it boils down to is “there is something I want. Do I attempt to reach out and grab it, or do I avoid risking failure/embarrassment/social judgement/an ego crash, etc and NOT try, and then make up hamster rationalizations for why I actively chose NOT to take action when my goal was in front of me?”

        I’ve seen some seriously alpha-seeming testosterone-overflowing guys spend all evening while we pre-drink bragging about their conquests and their bros giving them props and talking smack to eachother about how they’re gonna get pussy that night and all that shit…reduced to a nervous uncomfortable shaking-in-his-boots chugging-more-liquid-courage AFC mess when we go out and he sees a hot chick that’s just standing there alone and bored looking at him hoping he’ll come over to say hi…let alone a HARD approach. Usually the guy gets so shit-faced he takes home an ugly or goes home solo and writes the night off as “ah I got too drunk is all, I would’ve had this super hot chick that was checkin me out, stupid jäger shots hurr durr” or calls up an ugly/average fuckbuddy at 1am so he can say “oh I’m off to a booty call, totally getting laid tonight!” and qualify himself.

        Guys are full of shit. I will throw out everything you’ve ever accomplished in your life, every mountain you’ve climbed, every hottie you show me pics of on your Facebook, every sit-up you’ve done at the gym, every thousand you have in the bank…all that matters to me is do you take action in the moment, or don’t you?

        And yes I hold myself to this standard too, and yes I choke a bunch too, we all have off nights and I’m just a normal PUA etc. but I can guarantee that if the girl is both our type and the big alpha bravado dude beside me is making excuses, he’ll find himself talking to the back of my head as I walk over to approach the girl and take action.

        Maybe I’ll get her, maybe I won’t, but in that moment I’ll be the guy will balls enough to go for what he wants.

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      • Med students were always like that, just do enough work to get thru, and party and drink to forget.

        “P = MD” at a med school with Honors/Pass/Fail grading. All that matters is to pass, and you get your MD. “You know what they call the person with the lowest GPA in his med school class? Doctor.”

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  5. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-attraction-doctor/201308/can-insult-make-you-fall-in-love

    “Walster (1965) investigated the influence of momentary self-esteem on receptivity to the romantic advances of a stranger. The researcher arranged for a group of female participants to interact with a male research assistant who flirted with them. The female participants were then given positive or negative personality test feedback. After their self-esteem was increased or decreased in that way, they were asked to rate their liking for the male research assistant.

    The results of the study indicated that women who had their self-esteem temporarily lowered found the male research assistant significantly more attractive than the women with temporary high-self esteem. Walster (1965) theorized that this effect occurred for two reasons. First, individuals who feel “imperfect” themselves may demand less in a partner. Second, a person usually has an increased need for acceptance and affection when their self-esteem is low. Overall then, when an individual is made to feel “low”, they find potential romantic partners more attractive.”

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  6. This sounds like a Charles Atlas ad.

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  7. Lol at CH,telling that doctors are pussies.Do I sense envy here? 😀 Sour grapes mate 😀

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  8. Alex, sounds like you gave her the perfect amount of reassurance/comfort by casually confronting the guy, and you also dramatically increased your value to her by intimidating him. I’m really glad you didn’t mock her or encourage her to go flirt with the doctor. Sometimes you do have to respond (minimally) to reassurance tests if you want to keep her around, particularly if she’s high value and relationship-oriented. Congrats. 🙂

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  9. This seems entirely rational. Had she enjoyed the advances of Doctor Boy, then she would have been a fast and drama free Next. Clearly she did not and warranted appropriate levels of mate guarding. Calm of course, which in my experience is much more threatening than being an emotion driven rage filled dill weed. A composed, monotone, direct held gaze, quietly delivered “I suggest you find other prey tonight.” delivered from a dominant posture and mien can send men running for the exit faster than chest beating emotional aping.

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    • “Find other prey tonight”? Someone here is way too in to PUA jargon. The rest of the world doesn’t speak it, you know?

      More likely to mishear it as “pray” and simply be confused.

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      • FOB much?

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      • No, Harland, I’m a hunter. I kill animals with weapons for food and amusement. I’m a top tier predator who does things in real life, off the internet. There is no “PUA” jargon here, it is how I speak in real life. If it confuses somebody after I get my point across with my cold stare and low voice, he can stick around to debate syntax and word usage.

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  10. A friend of mine gets texted all the time by this doctor who lives in the Bay Area. Though highly credentialed, he’s beta as fuck. Texts her all the time, even when she doesn’t text back. “Hey, I was watching TV tonight and thought of you. When are you going to come visit again?” No response. Two days later. “Did you see the VMAs? What was that about? Lol” Truly fucking painful. She always shows these texts to me and asks, “What do I DO??”

    I said, “Well, if he creeps you out that much, you could just never talk to him again. Or, you know, tell him to get lost.” But she can’t do that. Not to a guy with that kind of provider potential!

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    • Easy – she should marry the dude, then push him off a cliff

      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57602172-504083/jordan-linn-graham-mont-newlywed-wife-charged-with-pushing-husband-off-cliff/

      They were newlyweds, but she was having second thoughts about the 8-day-old marriage, court documents say. The couple drove the short distance from their Kalispell home to Glacier National Park, where they got into an argument. He grabbed her by the arm, but she pulled away and shoved him face-first off a cliff to his death.

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      • “He told his mother that Graham would change when they got married, Maness said.”

        Famous last words. From the rest of the story, the woman plainly murdered him and tried to cover it up.

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      • They should add a Murder 1 charge and let the jury decide. Looks like premeditated murder to me.

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    • on September 10, 2013 at 12:53 pm Life at Calhoun's Lake

      Just more example of why men should take my advice and not reveal provider potential until after she’s lost her panties underneath your bed a couple times.

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    • “How do I make the doc an orbiter”, in other words. I suggest letting him know she’s seeing someone, but at the same time being super nice and calling him for advice and favors with some regularity (depending on how distant the orbit should be). Maybe a bit of emotional tamponing.

      Good friends with that irresistible but 100% deniable hint of more will hook him if he wants to get hooked.

      I think she can pretty much figure out the rest, if it’s not clear already.

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  11. Really enjoyed this one. Good for you Alex! This seems like a very common occurence the lovely ladies like to play. I read once somewhere always ask yourself, “what would James Bond do” when in a situation. Alex you have an accent that the ladies love, that should add a strong point to your SMV (I know, I have one too and backed by a strong persona, it definetly greases the wheels of many a social situation)

    Mr Heartiste, how about some more info on “Older Men Game” ! Look at Patrick Steward, he is 38 years older than her! And the reader comments seem so positive (maybe its is advocacy work in play here). Good on him! I’m shy of 40 so it gives me hope going into older age (though I have a beautiful younger lady in my life now for the past 2 years)

    http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/09/09/sunny-ozell-patrick-stewart-wife-married-age-difference/

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  12. i’m a male nurse. I work with docs. There is no reason to go automatically beta-gaga in the presence of a male doc. they are not gods and they are not omniscient. They are more like auto mechanics who have looked at a lot of “manuals” in school, and now fix human bodies instead of cars and trucks. Sort of like… big deal! Actually, my hat is off more to a journeyman “general practitioner” auto mechanic vs. many docs because the general practitioner auto mechanic has to work on many many different models of cars and trucks, whereas a doc only has to work on one model (the human body). And, lots of docs have their gigs further narrowed way down to relatively easy stuff, such as focusing only on feet or teeth. This makes their accomplishments even less towering. For example, most podiatrists have a pretty damned gravy gig compared a generalist auto mechanic, who has to work on ALL of the “body parts.” Not wanting to bad mouth docs — not at all, Just wanting to put them in the proper perspective. Certainly, respect and appreciate what they know, but don;t let them intimidate you.

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    • If you want to innocently neg them, ask if he’s an ass doctor.

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    • A podiatrist or a dentist isn’t usually called a doctor, they don’t have MD’s. As a male nurse, if you work in a hospital, I doubt you would encounter either one on a regular basis.

      I’ve never met a nurse who understood what a doctor did. This is a side issue that doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with game, but as a parent I’ve talked to many intelligent and sincere doctors who could explain what was going on with my kids. Nurses, never, and the nurses are very negative about anything nonstandard like refusing vaccinations.

      Some doctors are very bright. Some mechanics are very bright too. A very bright nurse couldn’t stand it and would find a way to get into med school.

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  13. I have a Firefox plugin that blocks all the “Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM” comments. And, all the comments that have more than one words that are more than 7 letters that are only ‘l’, ‘z’, and ‘o’; like “lzozlzoz”.

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  14. She was “nice” to him and rewarded him with “rampant sex” all weekend? Gee…what an “awesome woman”.

    Bitches are still bitches. If the scenario was reversed and the Doc owned him in that confrontation, she would have dumped the bf and fucked the Doc instead.

    Why women think they deserve loyalty from a high value man when they innately have NONE themselves is beyond me.

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  15. I’m in a similar situation–the co-worker of the girl I’m banging (with her a few weeks) is pursuing her; he’s an epic cockblock, a passive-aggressive good looking upper beta, who’s sick with rage I’m dickslapping his beloved’s face every night. She tolerates him, as far as I can see, and has no interest in hooking up with him. I’m an incorrigible cunthound and it’s only a matter of time before I get bored of banging her and break it off to go back on the hunt, but in the meantime this could be useful experience. Is there a chateau post on this topic? Yareally had a great post about the BFF male cockblocker but I can’t find it–could you hook a brother up yareally?

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