Men Not At Work

Many readers forwarded this NYBetaTimes article about men dropping out of the workforce. The author listed several factors aggravating this War on Men trend.

Working, in America, is in decline. The share of prime-age men — those 25 to 54 years old — who are not working has more than tripled since the late 1960s, to 16 percent. More recently, since the turn of the century, the share of women without paying jobs has been rising, too. The United States, which had one of the highest employment rates among developed nations as recently as 2000, has fallen toward the bottom of the list.

Thank you, mass immigration and Wall Street wunderkinds!

Many men, in particular, have decided that low-wage work will not improve their lives, in part because deep changes in American society have made it easier for them to live without working. These changes include the availability of federal disability benefits; the decline of marriage, which means fewer men provide for children; and the rise of the Internet, which has reduced the isolation of unemployment.

All of these are doubtless contributing factors, but as with most Hivemind reporting on the topic of men dropping out, there is a studious avoidance to analyzing the role that women, and their marital worthiness, play in men’s choices. I will explain below.

Men today may feel less pressure to find jobs because they are less likely than previous generations to be providing for others. Only 28 percent of men without jobs — compared with 58 percent of women — said a child under 18 lived with them.

A misleading stat. Divorced women get custody of children, and men pay child support. So some number of these no-employment men living alone are indeed providing for others, just not in the way they would prefer.

A study published in October by scholars at the American Enterprise Institute and the Institute for Family Studies estimated that 37 percent of the decline in male employment since 1979 could be explained by this retreat from marriage and fatherhood.

Women initiate 70+% of all divorces. Who’s retreating from marriage and fatherhood, again?

“When the legal, entry-level economy isn’t providing a wage that allows someone a convincing and realistic option to become an adult — to go out and get married and form a household — it demoralizes them and shunts them into illegal economies,” said Philippe Bourgois, an anthropologist at the University of Pennsylvania who has studied the lives of young men in urban areas.

Yes, mass immigration and automation are certainly demoralizing to unemployed men who weren’t born with the capacity for abstract thinking and symbol manipulation, but you know what else is demoralizing to men? Fat women, single moms, and sluts looking to settle down after a lifetime cocking up.

There is also evidence that working has become more expensive. A recent analysis by the Brookings Institution found that prices since 1990 had climbed most quickly for labor-intensive services like child care, health care and education, increasing what might be described as the cost of working: getting a degree, staying healthy, hiring someone to watch the children.

Cost of getting a degree = runaway credentialism.
Cost of staying healthy = following the government low-fat guidelines.
Cost of hiring a nanny = embracing the DIOK (dual income, one kid) lifestyle.

Meanwhile, the price of food, clothing, computers and other goods has climbed more slowly.

Corn and porn.

So many conservative social commentators, like Ross Douthat, fail to account for feedback loops in the sexual market, and how that trickles up and affects the economic market. They have a blind spot about women, preferring to lay blame for all society’s woeful indicators at the feet of men, so that they may continue polishing the pedestal of their faire maidens.

But men react to opposite sex cues just as much as women do. Think of men as having two engines of motivation, one internal, one external. The internal engine is self-starting and self-perpetuating, and it evolved to confer upon men a shot at raising their status so that they could attract more and better women.

The external engine is context-dependent. Visual cues fuel it, and it puts out more power the more enticing visual cues are fed into it. This engine, too, is a product of evolution, but it is more easily short-circuited by negative environmental inputs that were rare in the millennia when evolution was working to perfect both engines.

Men’s (white men’s, at any rate) external engine of motivation looks around, surveys a landscape teeming with land whales, single moms, and sluts, and decides that, hey, working their asses off in a crappy, low-wage job for a shot at wifing up George Lucas’ pelican gullet is the dictionary definition of a raw deal. Throw in the growing ranks of single moms, even the thin fuckable ones, and the women who have amassed considerable premarital histories on the cock carousel and are therefore less likely to stay faithful or to avoid the divorce altar, and men’s motivation to perform for these female losers dwindles to nothing.

Now add the finishing ingredient — porn — and you have most of what you need to know about why marriage rates are falling and men are dropping out of the economy, particularly among the lower classes. (The upper classes have more stable marriages because getting married later in life circumscribes the availability of tempting extramarital options, especially for older wives. Plus, upper class women are generally thinner and hotter.)

Dropped-out men may not be consciously happy about their non-employment and increasing alienation from society, but subconsciously they are making very rational cost-benefit decisions based upon real world incentives and disincentives. In 2014 America, cheap online porn is more rewarding than an expensive fat wife, and disability insurance more rewarding than working at a paint shop for $9 an hour. Change those two inputs — make both American women and American wages more attractive — and you will begin to see men dropping back into contention.


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    • on December 17, 2014 at 10:57 pm The Man Who Was . . .

      OT: Watched the VS Fashion Show.

      1. Hozier’s song Take Me To Church is the most mewlingly beta song in the universe. Tal Bachman has nothing has nothing on this self abasing puke.

      2. I watch because a good number of the girls are mind meltingly hot. But, frankly, a disturbingly non-trivial percentage of them look like trannies, including even a couple of the more hyped girls, like Karlie Kloss. Dear God.

      3. Not enough ass shots this year.


      • Worship of the body instead of the church is exchanging one error for another.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 8:14 am Whomever Wherever

        What an anti-American pro-Monarchy Tory elite WHORE OF YKW looks like:


      • on December 18, 2014 at 9:40 am Eliezer Ben Yehuda

        >> Watched the VS Fashion Show

        the Ebony Fashion Fair road show is the shit. The audiences are about 95% AfricanAmerican women, but top-shelf (in their particular milieu) stuff.

        Dress to Impress, if you want to push in the bush. These women mostly do understand that it’s a hundred times easier to find a good white horse to ride, than to find a good black horse to ride.

        The really beautiful thing is – at the end of the day, the horse is free to ignore the histrionics of the rider, and just go where it thinks the greenest pasture is….. and when the benefits stop? Throw the rider off.


      • I agree. I’m not against thinness. But thinness with CURVES is sexy. I saw the pics from the show and not once did I ever say to myself “I wish I had her body”

        Most if them have boxy waist lines, no curve or shape to them just straight flat boxy waist lines (I’m bigger but at least I have a curve between my upper and lower half) no ass, and some of their legs were chicken like.

        Don’t get the hype.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 11:38 am The Straw That Stirs the Drink

        A disturbingly non-trivial percentage of males in fashion are homosexuals… so it’s not a coincidence that a disturbingly non-trivial percentage of female models look like trannies (or androgynous)…


      • Another reason for men, White men in particular, not working is Affirmative Action. They get discriminated against at every stage of their working career and will see incompetent women, blacks and gays promoted ahead of them again and again.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 11:52 am The Man Who Was . . .

        Also OT: Stevie Wonder has girlfriend who is more attractive than most men’s, and he’s blind!

        This is why I could never accept dating 6s. Aside from the innate pleasures of dating beautiful women, it’s just too damn humiliating having your ass kicked by a blind man, famous or not.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 12:00 pm The Man Who Was . . .

        OT OT: What is up with George Clooney marrying that 7 lawyer? Did he believe the bullshit about marrying someone to argue with?

        [CH: if you read Agnostic, his take is that Clooney is gay and the lawyerwife is his beard. It’s easier to form a power couple when desire and love are removed as constraints.]


      • If you’re going to link to something with dudes kissing, a warning would be nice.


      • The Take Me to Church video is especially disgusting.


      • “It’s easier to form a power couple when desire and love are removed as constraints.”

        definitely some truth in that. that’s why you see so many politicians with doggy ballbusters for wives and mistresses on the side. they marry the women who will get them far, the women who look like a practical choice on paper and then save the love and passion for the side girls.


      • The big advantage to thin women is they tend to age well and recover well from childbirth. After children they usually go from thin to curvy in a nice way.


      • on December 19, 2014 at 8:49 pm The Man Who Was . . .

        Agnostic is retarded. If you’re gay you don’t get a rep for banging hotties like Clooney has. If you need a beard you generally stick with one or two, not a whole damn procession.

        [CH: i find the rumor implausible too. agnostic marshalled some celebrity gossip site evidence in favor, but i don’t get a gay vibe from clooney at all. but… he is an actor.]

        My thought is that she flatters his aspiration to be a serious lefty intellectual type. They probably have long pseudo-intellectual conversations about the issues of the day. She pushes his poseur buttons. “I am done with those shallow sluts; I am ready for a smart, passionate woman.” In other words, he has banged a lot of really hot women (thereby somewhat sating his pure lust) and he also really buys into a bunch of lefty bullshit. So, he collapses into a marriage with a merely attractive woman.

        [makes sense. super alpha behavior is hard to fathom for most men. imagine having clooney’s SMP options. literally millions of beautiful women willing to sleep with you wherever you go. a guy like that might do something different later in life just because he got so tired of the usual fawning. kind of like CEOs who go in for that dominatrix kink on the down low. anyhow, married or not, i’ve little doubt that most famous men have one or more hotter, younger, tighter lovers on the side who know to keep their mouths shut.]


      • on December 19, 2014 at 9:11 pm The Man Who Was . . .

        a guy like that might do something different later in life just because he got so tired of the usual fawning.

        Yeah, super alphas do do some strange things.


      • There is a well recognized “power coupe” phenomenon. You see it among upper middle class professionals, for example. Supposedly Clooney has political ambitions; a woman with some independent accomplishments will enhance his stature in that regard.

        Bill Clinton could have married any Southern cutie he desired, no doubt. He married Hillary.


    • I am not sure if I agree with this at all.


    • Excellent analysis as usual, CH, but I think you missed elaborating on one major factor for why the marriage rates are falling.

      The type of guy who IS working and DOESN’T spend all day watching porn and who HAS a top tier job is becoming rarer. However, he still exists. Therefore, when women DO come across a ‘high quality’ guy, his sexual menu is bigger than ever. He doesn’t need porn; he can just fuck whatever girls he wants in real life and simply never commit.

      Meanwhile, girls want so badly to make this guy theirs, we’ll call him the top 20% guy, they’ll try to garner his commitment via sex. Meanwhile the bottom 80% of guys, yea they’re just watching a bunch of porn.

      So the top 20% of men also have little reason to settle down. Why settle down with one girl when your real life is like a porno? This simply wasn’t an option in my Grandparents’ day. You fucked someone, you married them.

      Fucking random hoes easily is really nice for a while, but at a certain point these shallow girls become emotionally repulsive. My buddy and I like to call it the ‘Tinder Paradox.’ That girl who fucked you silly after you spit an hour of game on your Tinder date? No way is she making the cut for a long term relationship. It’s fun for a minute though.


  1. on December 17, 2014 at 3:06 pm Whomever Wherever

    All by design. All proceeding according to The Plan.


      • on December 17, 2014 at 4:32 pm Whomever Wherever

        It really is pretty amazing how the old WASP elite is joining forces with YKW and Gay Lettuce Bacon & Tomato in this all-out war to destroy and annihilate the White middle class. It’s like a crazy satanic witch’s brew of 1776 [King George, Cornwallis, Clinton] and 1917 [Ulyanov/Lenin, Bronshtein/Trotsky, Apfelbaum/Zinoviev, Wallach-Finkelstein/Litvinov] all over again.


      • on December 17, 2014 at 6:04 pm Whomever Wherever


      • on December 17, 2014 at 6:49 pm Randy the Random

        “Gay Lettuce Bacon & Tomato”

        This is what keeps me coming back. I have just disturbed a library full of nubile young white females with outbursts of uncontrollable laughter.

        Thank you for the DHV.


      • In general, laughing edges out closer to a DLV than a DHV.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 12:12 pm The Spirit Within

        Whomever Wherever, we know that you’re Zombie Shane. Banned much?


      • “Whomever Wherever, we know that you’re Zombie Shane. Banned much?”

        was thinking the same thing…lol


      • I don’t think ZS was banned. Changing one’s handle is not the same thing. He gets repetitive but he’s very accurate in his deconstruction of Communism and how it works and subverts cultures and societies. His message on population is also correct, even if many find the white buns in white ovens thing annoying. He understands communists and how they operate.


      • He understands communists and how they operate

        Well summed up.


    • le patron :- ” — make both American women and American wages more attractive — ”
      Ain’t going to happen, the 80% guys are condemned to be broken on the wheel. Not required on voyage.
      The government has decided to dissolve the people, and elect a new one in its place.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 7:39 am Whomever Wherever

        > “The government has decided to dissolve the people, and elect a new one in its place.”

        Fortunately our forefathers endowed us with one gigantic structural advantage over the Kulaks and Cossacks and White Russians who were slaughtered by YKW.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 8:08 am Whomever Wherever

        Speaking of our Russian brethren, if we had any elites who gave a damn about the future of Western Civilization and the White Race, then we would be doing everything in our power to prop up the Ruble. But, of course, YKW control our fiat currency, and they want Putin [and our USA frackers] destroyed. And Barry Soebarkah bows before his Wahhabi masters and is more than happy to see them open the spigots and destroy Putin [and our USA frackers]. And the old anti-American pro-Monarchy Tory elite [Bush, Cheney, etc] seem to be all “Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die” and they hate the Russians and want to destroy Putin [if not our USA frackers?]. And speaking of Victoria Secret models and Jeb “Common Core Illegal Alien for a Wife” Bush, Jeb has a niece, Lauren Bush, who married into the Ralph “Lauren” Lifshitz family, and is now named Lauren Bush “Lauren” Lifshitz. And Prick Cheney has a daughter who is a Gay Lettuce Bacon & Tomato bulldyke. And the anti-American pro-Monarchy Tory elite Bush family placed Gay Lettuce Bacon & Tomato justices David Sodomiter Souter and John The John Roberts on the Supreme Court. Etc etc etc etc etc…


      • “The government has decided to dissolve the people” I like this, it has a bizarre, sci-fi and paranoid bent to it.


  2. In my opinion, a duel income family is a recipe for unhappiness. (typo intended)


    • Has your husband put a bun in your oven yet?

      [cue tumbleweeds]


    • I just had my first at 53. She’s a joy and a blessing.


      • Brainwashed fool


      • Nihilistic oxygen thief says what?


      • on December 17, 2014 at 6:14 pm Whomever Wherever

        > “Brainwashed fool”

        Pot, meet Kettle.


      • juro is right. my replication agenda has brainwashed everyone into thinking otherwise:

        Contrary to what it is most commonly believed by the mindless herd, there is actually only one true rational answer to the most common existential question of them all, the simplistically famous: “What are you doing?”. Which, in philosophical terms, it translates to: How and/or with what are you currently filling up the emptiness that it exists in front of yourself given that you still haven’t met nonexistence?
        You can surely obtain a myriad of different seemingly relevant answers; and, those who are extremely subdued to their existential fantasy will certainly deny this, but people do one thing, and one thing only during their entire meaningless and purposeless stay in this existential prison called reality, and that is to distract their own conscious moments of nothingness to not end up dealing with the uncomfortable vacuity that it is always found inside of the self. The rest is all superficial nonsense attached to the personal delusion that each individual carries inside the mind, but little does it matter, as it is all a pretentious facade constructed solely for aesthetic purposes to please their own perception.
        Blocking their own awareness with whatever thing that they could possibly find (jobs, careers, physical recreation like sex or sports, mental recreation such as seeking solace in the different form of arts, etc.) to satisfy the emptiness regardless of how serious they might take all these little futile engagements, is all that everyone ever does while in existence.
        Self-aware organic matter temporarily hallucinating being something, somebody or someone until achieving full decomposition and eventually heading back to the quietness and lightlessness of the cosmos in order to continue with the eternal rest inside the void.


      • “I just had my first at 53. She’s a joy and a blessing.”

        whoa dude.

        a joy and a blessing for you? what about the kid?
        why would you bring someone into the world like that when you know you won’t be around long enough to help raise him or her?

        a young dad who bails on his kids because he’s irresponsible is a deadbeat dad. an old guy who decides to have a kid when he knows he can’t fulfill his role as a father is just as bad. no. it’s worse. you’re old enough to know better. pretty selfish if you ask me.

        your young wife’s new husband will be the one raising the kid when you’re in the nursing home and then after you’re dead and gone. spread your seed so some other man can be father to your child? walk your daughter down the aisle, be grandfather to your grandchildren? i couldn’t do it.


      • “a young dad who bails on his kids because he’s irresponsible is a deadbeat dad. an old guy who decides to have a kid when he knows he can’t fulfill his role as a father is just as bad”

        Given the climate in this society today, no man has a reasonable expectation of being able to fulfill his role as a father. On the other hand, I find it hard to blame one who refuses to let that dictate his life. Not to mention that welfare junkies and illegal aliens are hardly sitting around entertaining these scruples when it comes to pumping out more liberal voters.


      • gotta agree with blart on this one.

        we do have a shortage of good men who are willing to become fathers and that’s scary for our future but having kids that you’re not going to raise properly is nothing more than selfish ego-gratification that adds to the problem.

        sure if you’re 53 now and your health is optimum, you will probably be around while your child is young. but in his pre-teens, teens, 20s and later (the years when a person needs his father most) you won’t be the energetic, involved father/leader that he needs.

        you won’t be playing catch in the back yard in the evenings when he’s a pre-teen and taking him fishing, camping, etc. in his teens and 20s. you’ll probably be in a nursing home, dead, or sitting on the couch complaining about your aching joints and making excuses for why watching golf on television is more important than your son’s baseball skills.

        infants and elementary school age kids need their mothers. older kids, young adults and adults need the guidance and interaction of their fathers. they need a father’s advice about careers, relationships, children. they need a mentor and a leader. that is the whole point of fatherhood.

        you won’t be there for any of that. you’ll die right when your child needs you most. sad for the child and sad that there will be yet another human in this world venturing into adulthood and beyond without a strong male role model in his life. that’s a shame.


      • “Given the climate in this society today, no man has a reasonable expectation of being able to fulfill his role as a father. On the other hand, I find it hard to blame one who refuses to let that dictate his life.”

        true. there are no guarantees in life. shiz happens. but we’re not talking about a guy who loses custody because his bitchy wife leaves him for the handsome dad from the parent’s group meetings.

        we’re talking about someone who takes on a serious commitment like fatherhood knowing full well that he’s going to half-ass it. he’s going be off in a nursing home or he’ll kick the bucket and leave the kid in the lurch to fend for himself when he needs his father most. that’s just wrong. it’s selfishness to hilt. i have no problem at all blaming a guy for that.


      • @Carlos Danger

        hope i did not offend.
        like i said, i do think it’s selfish to wait until you’re that old to have a kid. but who knows. maybe it wasn’t planned and you’re making the best of it. better than aborting the kid. i’m probably just projecting anyway so take it all with a grain of salt.
        i had an old dad who died when i was pretty young. even years before he passed, he was seriously out of touch and uninvolved. left me and my mom to basically fend for ourselves because he was just too old to be a dad.

        eventually she found someone new of course but it was hard for us. he took her best years so she was older when he died and had three kids in tow. that made it harder for her to find a decent guy. we needed a dad but none of the replacements quite measured up. we needed our dad. she needed her husband. but he was gone.

        yes, my mother was partially to blame. she should have known better than to have kids with a guy so much older. she was setting herself up to be a caretaker to an old man instead of a wife to an active, vital husband. she chose to enter a marriage where she’d ultimately be a widow with young kids. she was being as selfish as he was. they both put their needs and wants before the needs of their children. but he was older and wiser. that places a greater onus on him. i couldn’t do that to my kid or to a girl that i loved.

        @ DNA

        you might try spending less time philosophizing, more time trying to get laid. seriously dude. lighten up.


      • Congratulations, Carlos. That’s nice for you.


      • “What are you doing?”
        It’s always been “Having my time wasted by an idiot”


      • It is better to be born with an older father than not to be born at all.


      • I had a kid because I can. I had a kid because I’ve always wanted one. I will have more. The kid will keep me young and involved in its life. I will retire in a few years and spend 24/7 with my kid(s). I am highly intelligent and well read. I am a renaissance man as are many others here. It would be a tragedy for me to listen to this womanly mewling and not have children. Red pill men need to breed most of all. My daughter will worship the ground I walk on because her mother already does and I am cool to be around. I have enough life insurance. If I should die early, their memory of me will serve as a light house in the dark for them.


      • I’m on your side Carlos Danger, if that is your real name (heh). I actually don’t understand your detractors. Maybe they lack perspective. We all know they are entitled to their opinions. Don’t know that I would do it myself. My dad died when i was 30. Plenty of healthy, fiscally responsible white men I know could have their first kid at 60+ and still have a meaningful impact on their lives. Added perspective can’t hurt either. Obviously, there are no guarantees. The first-time mom should ideally be 20 years old.


      • @ JohnDSee

        “Plenty of healthy, fiscally responsible white men I know could have their first kid at 60+ and still have a meaningful impact on their lives…The first-time mom should ideally be 20 years old.”

        ideally fathers should be young too. not only do MOST old dad’s leave their children too soon as they progress into old age and eventually die while their children are still young, they aren’t optimum health wise for breeding in the first place.

        even if you are fiscally responsible or alpha, sperm gets old. the older you are the higher the chance your kids will have mental illnesses or addictions. it starts happening with dads who are only in their mid-40s. even when the moms are young.

        so maybe some kids turn out okay with older dads but that isn’t the norm and a lot of guys seem to think it is. we have all these young men putting off parenting when they shouldn’t and it’s not boding well for the future.

        just hope you young guys who think you can wait to be fathers until middle age are storing seed for later. you’ll likely be leaving your young bride to raise your young children as a single mom when you die. that’s a given. but at least make sure the kids aren’t born of your old defective seed. that’s just cruel.


      • OMG what us the point in making him feel bad AFTER he’s already had his child?

        Some of you are just plain Shitheads!

        CONGRATS on your baby Carlos!


      • Brainwashed fool

        First of all, anyone without children STFU.

        Second of all, anyone bad-mouthing a white man having a child these days, come get one in the yarbles… if’n ya got any, eunuch jellies.

        Third of all, it’s not unreasonable for a man who takes care of himself to be viable well into his seventies, so this will make the kid 20 or so by the time the old man is no longer in the picture. It’s simple math, not rocket surgery… you fairies.


      • Keep your pants on. Do not invest in this garbage society.

        Your daughter will probably enjoy making you angry. She
        will love the thugs, and do exactly the opposite of what you want.

        The fifty year age difference guarantees a rift between parent
        and child.


      • Juro,

        I know you from Nice Guys. Don’t assume all families are dysfunctional or that all women are incapable of virtue. They need leadership and my daughter will have it. If she disappoints me I’ll spend her inheritance on 3rd world floozies and send her photos.


      • Congratulations, Carlos. I call it a win for Team White.

        I’m amazed at certain posters who treat 53 as if it were 83. What planet are they living on? Or perhaps the better question is what portion of history? The early Middle Ages? They’ve got Carlos tottering on the edge of the grave already. Poor, decrepit Carlos. LOL! Be sure to visit him and give the poor creature alms.

        There is absolutely no reason that a fit 53 year old can’t raise his children, not only through their minority, but also be there for them deep into adulthood. And if he is a dedicated and wise father, as I suspect Carlos will be, his influence will be there for their entire lives – an awful lot can be accomplished in thirty odd years.

        None of this is to say that there aren’t disadvantages involved, with some of the biggest falling on the father. While not impossible, Carlos will probably never see his grandchildren. That’s a biggie. It’s ideal to have children earlier, but for any older white men that want children and are committed to being good fathers: Go for it. Do it for yourself, do it for the child, do it for Team White.


        Do you wish that you had never been born? If not, give a silent thanks to your father and the decision that he made to have you. You’re alive, ain’t ya?


      • @Blart: the sperm gets old thing is a canard. I got my wife pregnant pretty quickly. The baby is very healthy and by all signs, very intelligent. You hear about birth defects with older women but not with men. I would have had kids sooner but it wasn’t really my call. All the same, I’m not decrepit- I am fit and healthy and care about my kid. I’m glad I never had kids with my ex-wife, that’s for sure. My father had me at 26 and doesn’t sound much different than your own father in terms of involvement. I may or may not know my grand children but I have some control over that too. If my daughter gets married by age 30, I’ll be in my early 80s at the worst when she marries. I think the bigger problem will be finding a suitable man that meets my standards and expectations to be her husband. As I said before, I have considerable referent power in my house. I will be very involved in my children’s lives. I will home school too. Zombie Shane and I are of one mind on this question.

        @Trainspotter; You’re damned right it’s a win for Team White! My wife is on board with that line of thinking too. I advocate Red Pill white men forming polygynous marriages with multiple women and giving the Mexicans a run for their money in the birth department. There are so many beta pussies in the current generation that good, fertile women will go begging in a few years. What was that passage from Isaiah? They will need to be wifed up. Better for real men to father the children. I think Fundamentalist LDS has a good idea there. Throw Marcuse’s shit right back into his queer bait degenerate face.

        As far as fatherhood is concerned, if you are thinking about it and have a good wife, do it. There is little else more rewarding than seeing a child’s face light up and smile with genuine, unspoiled affection for you.


      • on December 19, 2014 at 5:43 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        Congrats. I’ll probably decide to have children around that age too. No real point doing it sooner. Even if it’s selfish, there’s no reason to really give a shit and your age doesn’t matter that much. It’s funny I considered the criticisms you got to be akin to womanly mewling too. And they’re entirely clueless about child rearing too.


      • Blart and K are all for a black man having 18 kids by 19 different women and letting the state pay for their upbringing. That’s fine and dandy in blarty’s opinion. But for a white man to have one child, well he’s got to be aged between 26 and 28. earning $600,000 a year, married, have an IQ of at least 140, and have a guarantee signed off (in triplicate) by God Herself that he will live until he is 80.
        I happen to remember blart requesting somewhere on a gay porn site that for his 40th birthday he wanted a group of well hung black men to “fill all his holes” and he wanted “as much cum and piss inside him as he could get”.


      • Congratulations Carlos Danger. Babies are the biggest joy in life.

        If men were not supposed to be having babies at that age, they would not still be capable of it. Nature is smart.

        But to each his owns, if other men do not want a baby at your age, that is fine. 🙂 . But bravo, I am happy for you, and a early blessed Christmas to you and your small girl.


      • “The fifty year age difference guarantees a rift between parent
        and child.”

        It does not gaurantee any rift. My father and I have 45 years difference, and we are close. If anything, it can make for a closer relationship. You respect them more because they are much older and hopefully wiser, you are afraid to disappoint them after a certain age (because it might stress them and effect their health).
        You also think back fondly at how he worked hard to provide for you, even at a later age when he should have been relaxing.
        It can be a beautiful bond. And I hope Carlos and his wife are fruitful, and make even more. He is 53 – not 80. He will have daughters to take care of him in his older age, if he is not married anymore (though I hope his marriage stays well).

        The number one thing a father wants, usually, is for his daughters to be taken care of, to marry well with a good man. I recall reading a study that was something like, women with older fathers, are themselves more likely to seek a older husband. Which makes sense to me, and is often a good thing, older men are usualy more able to provide resources for the family and take care of them well.
        And regarding low iq, attractiveness, autism, health problems etc, in children born to older fathers. I am skeptical of it, my iq is fine. (but no danger of me becoming a physicist LOL) but I have a higher IQ than all my sisters, who were born when my father was younger. My brother in law’s brother, has a severely autistic child, and he was 27 when he made him.
        So again, there is no guarantee, you take a chance. The important thing is that a man is a good father, no matter his age. So if a man WANTS babies at that age, it is a good thing.


    • People have dual income families so that they can pay to send their kids to majority white schools. Being able to send your kids to a predominantly white school is premised on living in a predominantly white neighborhood.

      In other words, white flight is the driving force behind the dual income trend.


      • Women are the driving force behind the dual income trend. Women want the McMansion because, well, her girlfriend has one.

        Lack of Pussy Control is the reason why we all drive fifty miles to work everyday.


      • @Juro

        at least part of that is to avoid questionable demographics.


  3. Those shiftless men happen to be in certain parts of the country. The usual suspects (and they’re not all non-White, New French and Appalachians very much included). See also the following tweet


    • Going from memory here but if I’m not mistaken I read a few months ago at Vdare that Hispanic men are the demographic group least affected by this “men not at work ” trend…

      And about French Canadians, well I can not disagree as I just saw a week ago a chart that shows in my province of Quebec over 52% of the population earns less than 30,000 a year ( many are on welfare and get less than 10,000 a year )

      Quebec, the only French speaking province in Canada is also one of the poorest of the country with one of the lowest GDP…

      no one will be surprised to learn that quebecers lean very much left politically…and are on average anti-capitalism…

      leftism = decay

      here in quebec telling people you are a conservative will get you more hatred than if you say you molest children.


      • French Canadians in Canada aren’t low IQ, just the ones in the U.S. The Québécois and the Acadians that came to the U.S. (and stayed) were the dumb ones. This is probably because immigration to the U.S. was easier than coming from say across the ocean, so this selected for folks near from the bottom of the barrel.


      • But you have the hottest women in Canada by far.


      • “Leftism” is an unclear concept because its early populist and communitarian parts are mixed up with the baggage of cultural Marxism. Meanwhile “right wing” things like capitalism are now the engine of nation-wrecking.


      • I mean leftism in its current form.

        It is a destructive force, but the damage is not always immediate, thus hard to conceive for most people.

        Things such as race replacement take many decades before the damage becomes so serious that it becomes impossible to deny, but the average humans has trouble thinking two days ahead.

        Who knew back in the 1960s that feminism – another head of the monster that is leftism – would turn women into tattooed up drunken whores riding the cock carousel?

        who knew back in 1973 that women would abort tens of millions of foetus? and contribute to making the white race a minority in their own nations?

        Back in the early 1970s feminists were complaining about men seeing them as nothing but sex objects, well who knew “liberating” women would make them – and that is the choice women make themselves – a thousand times more of a sexual object than they had ever been?

        Who knew getting rid of segregation would lead to today’s extreme anti-white culture?

        in its current form leftism is a destructive force, and since it controls the media, entertainment and education system, it keeps the masses from knowing what is really going on.

        I am not saying the political right is great, it is not , but anything is better than leftism in its current form.

        Voting conservative is choosing a lesser evil, the right may never stop it but , it does slow down – to an extent – the destruction process that the left has launched.


      • Excellent stuff as always Canadian Friend.


      • Who knew back in the 1960s that feminism – another head of the monster that is leftism – would turn women into tattooed up drunken whores riding the cock carousel?

        who knew back in 1973 that women would abort tens of millions of foetus? and contribute to making the white race a minority in their own nations?

        Who knew getting rid of segregation would lead to today’s extreme anti-white culture?

        They knew… the guys like George Lincoln Rockwell and our crotchety ol’ granddads who we used to laugh at… because their warnings, far more tamer than what we see today, seemed ridiculously sky-is-falling at the time…

        … and we were hip… cool… open-minded… they were dinosaurs whose day had come and gone… so we laughed.

        I often wonder if the grim satisfaction of laughter from the grave echoes down the ages.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 7:49 pm The Straw That Stirs the Drink

        @Greg Eliot

        Nicely written. But the genie was out of the bottle in 1920, by when women were (nearly all countries in the West) granted the right to vote.

        This gentlemen was the Rubicon.


      • Good posts, Canadian Friend. Even many decades ago, there were a few far seeing men who could accurately envision the end game. But for the vast majority, it is apparent that they had no clue that things would turn out as they have. They mumbled and they grumbled, but they would never have predicted the disaster that actually unfolded.

        Now, the fiasco is upon us, at least in its early stages (far worse is yet to come). As the disaster becomes more and more apparent, harder and harder to deny, the dynamics change. The nature of the struggle changes as our understanding of reality evolves. When I was a kid several decades ago, liberals were often described as “bleeding hearts.” You heard a lot about how “…their intentions are good, but…”

        That’s all gone, now. Maybe there was some truth to it at the time – at least among white leftists as opposed to YKW. Maybe some of these people were just ignorant or naive, and falsely imagined that the purpose of integration was merely about giving blacks a fair shake, or that of feminism was merely about giving women a fair shake, and that nothing bad, much less disastrous, need come of it. Maybe they had no concept whatsoever of the abattoir that was at the end of the road. Yes, there were warnings, but they were few and, after all, we should be nice…

        Maybe this was true of some. For most non-YKW, it probably was. But no such excuse applies to the modern day white liberal. Today, it is readily apparent that leftist intentions are not good. Not at all. Instead, they are nasty, vicious, hate-filled anti-white scum that revel in white genocide. They don’t have hearts that bleed, but hearts full of hatred and malice.

        They love the nastiness that surrounds us, and rabidly insist upon more and more. They demand imposing their vileness on anyone and everyone that they can bring under their boot. They swim in sewage, and yell at us to jump in, because the water’s fine. They claim it is the most wonderful, clean and clear water that anyone has ever known – as the fecal matter swirls around them. When we say that we don’t want to jump in the sewage with them, they react with rage and hatred. It may be that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned – but have you ever debated an anti-white liberal? A woman scorned has nothing on him.

        If I were a more religious sort, I might conclude that they are demonically possessed. After all, how could a normal human being become so deranged and full of malevolence?

        What was hidden is now revealed, to be understood by more and more with each passing day. We can see them clearly now, for exactly what they are – rotten to the core. That understanding changes everything, and we are definitely heading into interesting times. The anti-whites never deserved the moral high ground, but at one time they appeared to have it. No more.


      • CF, do you like Natasha St. Pier? I think she has the voice of an angel.


    • Don’t they insist the minimum wage be raised to 15 bucks per hour? Hah. I’ll insist women have a maximum weight. I’ll work out the formula later. Also, remember to remind blacks that if anyone is curious as to how the black voters will vote, all one has to do is see how the fags vote. Blacks will love to hear that. Cheers.


  4. Please explain your strategy for “making wages more attractive”.


    • Less welfare makes working look better, less immigration makes wages rise


    • Seriously????

      Please explain your strategy for “making wages more attractive”.??

      It’s as easy as “DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS”

      Overnight things would be vastly different and better.


      • And the fucking H1b’s too, wages would skyrocket for the middle class.


      • Illegals are an economic resource. They are a resource that is desperate to join our economy. That’s a good thing for growth. You could make wages more attractive for citizens if you gave them the same blackmarket deal that illegals have: no state and federal income taxes, no social security or unemployment withholdings, no health insurance cartel expenses. Eliminating welfare would exponentially reduce bureaucratic funding requirements.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 5:55 pm Hammer of Love

        ” Illegals are an economic resource. ”

        No they’re not, the citizens of a nation are the main resource, and beneficiaries, of said nation. The US has over 300 million people, we have no obligation to provide a “better life” to illegal border jumpers.


    • Half of illegals go directly on welfare.

      that is only the tip of the iceberg.


    • Wages will be more attractive when the ability to receive Welfare requires showing up at a designated Welfare Worksite for

      i) 20 hours per week of manual labor; and

      ii) 10 hours per week of job skills training; and

      iii)10 hours per week documented job search time on the Welfare Office job search computer; or
      b) 10 jobs applied to; or
      c) 1 verified phone or in-person interview

      Prob is, most on Welfare, hear a politician say “we are going to cut taxes and regulations to lower business risk and create incentives to hire employees” (Republican) or “we must increase taxes on the most fortunate 1% and expand government funding to leviathan proportions to create ‘shovel ready jobs’ to put Americans back to work” (Democrat)…

      and all that most Welfare recipients hear is: “Job!” “Work!” “Labor!” and other words that cramp their style and life of leisure.


  5. Now correlate that pattern to some of the ethnic groups found here:


  6. “there is a studious avoidance to analyzing the role that women, and their marital worthiness, play in men’s choices.”

    Or as Johnny Paycheck said, “take this job and shove it, my woman done left and took all the reason I was workin for”


  7. I wish I am in the US of A
    Damn!! I’ll Just get a dissability insurance!!


  8. I salute you Señor Heartiste. This was an excellent dissection.


  9. #NoHymenNoDiamond


  10. People laugh at those that work in technology for being geeks and nerds but ultimately it is fairly well paying and usually if you work for a small company you don’t have to put up with any HR bullshit or any women in the work place.

    Plus there is so much demand for talented people that if you get pissed off you can easily get another job.


    • Hey all “Tech Workers”

      Save your money and prepare to be fired. You will be fucked over eventually. Guys like Zuckerberg are lobbying for more h1b’s and they will get it. You will be teaching some dot head or dog eater from SE Asia your job right before they fire you (which is the ultimate insult, don’t be “that” beta guy, put your foot down and refuse to train your own fucking replacement!)

      Even if you are one of the “lucky” ones, and do manage to keep your IS job, prepare to be the department slave-bitch whipping boy, as you and the one other white guy there has to do your own work AND all of the work for the woman and AA hires.

      Remember that even “small” IS shops less then 25 people (EEOC Limit) if they want to bid on government contracts have to implement and report their AA hiring and activities. So there is really no escaping the AA’s anymore

      Have a nice life!


      • I could use help with my job, but Im concerned that having and training an assistant will make me more expendable. No one will be as good as me at my job, but management will think they can survive with my ‘apprentice’. Of course, I could have my apprentice be more defiant and troublemaking than me. Devil they know vs devil the dont. *wink*


      • “don’t be “that” beta guy, put your foot down and refuse to train your own fucking replacement”

        Even better. Teach them everything wrong, and then leave.


      • don’t be “that” beta guy,

        they lie to u and make u think u’r not a goner. but when u’r done training Kumar, suddenly HR calls u into their office


      • on December 17, 2014 at 9:18 pm Randy the Random

        Homeslice, this is true for bottom of the barrel gruntwork. Anyone who’s done a day’s work in tech understands that the field moves forward at breakneck speeds. New and more powerful frameworks, tools and methodologies are coming out regularly. The key is not be an employee, but be an entrepreneur or consultant who can capitalize on these new tools to beat the competition.

        Accenture or Infosys bodyshops will never be able to compete with a small, lean team of craftsmen who are on top of the game. Remember, you’re competing on IQ and determination, not “degrees” or “experience”.

        Even given India and China’s huge populations, only 2% are above an IQ of 130, which is what’s required to play the game at this level. If you aren’t at that level, yes, you might be at risk, but you have the status and homecourt advantage of being able to golf and drink with clients. Focus on making the sales and hire a few diamond in the rough tech guys to do the work.


      • This does not represent the reality of the industry at all, i get emails every day and constant calls from recruiters.

        You just sound like some loser that is trying to convince himself that everyone else is in the same boat.


      • matt is correct.

        tons of great paying tech jobs out there. huge demand for skilled workers. i’m contacted by recruiters all the time too. i could quit my job today and find another one within a week. probably one with even better pay and benefits than i have now. i have coworkers who have done that exact thing because they wanted a shorter commute, better health insurance, better bonus schedule, etc. so many options out there it’s unreal.


      • Blart and Matt, what you say is largely true for men with strong skills/resumes/contacts. What I’m seeing though is that college recruiting and entry level career track positions hirings are being skewed toward women and non-whites.


      • yep. These .commies aren’t here to spread the wealth, they are here to do what Rockefeller did and keep as much as possible. The route to that is through pliant H1s, who are more than willing to work long hours for less pay because they either do it or get sent back to the shithole called India


      • Always amazed me to see tech people willingly train their replacements. I suppose they retained some desperate hope that somehow, if they were good little trainers, they might hold onto their jobs. They never did.


    • If your profession does not involve working towards a sale(an ‘event’), someone else is selling your work and you are simply trading your time for money on a linear scale. Don’t be a chump, working for chump change. I’m talking to all scientists/engineers/programmers/hipsters with no ownership equity. Is it fair? No. Is it reality…yes.


      • What will happen to you once both the seller and buyer are minority / women owned businesses? You think they’ll keep your art-of-the-deal ass around? You’ll be kicked to the curb to sell pencils from a cup.


    • What the best way to get started in tech for someone for who didn’t study it in college? Books? Boot camp? Freelancing at a low rate to gain experience?


      • Freelancing at low rate, or as subcontractor to another freelancer (like a tech professor at a school who invariably has side jobs and contacts)… in order to get a foot in the door and then see if you can cut the mustard.

        If you can get ‘er done, so to speak, you’ll be writing your own ticket after 12 months or so.


      • “If you can get ‘er done, so to speak, you’ll be writing your own ticket after 12 months or so.”

        that’s the truth. the tech industry is one of the few places you can still succeed without a bunch of school. i work for a company that employs thousands of people worldwide. we’ve got HR like anybody else and usually put “bachelor’s degree preferred” on job postings.

        but who do we hire? it’s not the kids fresh out of college with four year degrees. nine times out of 10 we hire the candidates who have work experience instead. most of them have very little or no formal education past a high school diploma. whether it’s months of work experience or years, it doesn’t really matter. all we need to know is whether or not you can do the job. you either have a tech brain or you don’t. no amount of school is going to change that.

        start working for a temp agency. take all the jobs you can get. whether it’s a little mom and pop computer repair shop or a big corporation who needs extra coverage for one reason or another. it’s all good experience that will get you closer to where you want to be. it goes on your resume and some of those temp jobs might even turn into something permanent. we hire our temps all the time.


      • GE and blart – great stuff, gentlemen – please keep the sound advice coming for the young men here


  11. The blind spot for women from major media…is why I’m glad the internet is around.

    ‘Fat women, single moms, and sluts looking to settle down after a lifetime cocking up.’

    Care to guess which common trait these three type of women share? That is THE root problem.


  12. “men’s motivation to perform for these female losers dwindles to nothing”

    99% of women are insane lying slut trash. men just now figured it out.

    pump and dump skittles man forever. let her work and pay. men are the prize.


  13. Firstly, isn’t the porn and corn phrase from Roger Scruton? So I had a theory about this joblessness once. I know a woman, who happens to be quite beautiful, but isn’t quite as talented as her male counterparts yet managed to get in to a top tier graduate school and then was promoted straight to a coveted assistant professorship. I think this really sums up in a way what has happened to the job markets. There is no longer any thankfulness that men are taking them. Jobs are really hard, really hard and stressful. Women have just been inserted in as if jobs are just a necessity in life like air and water are. So what if you breathe air? So in addition to the above, why on earth would men want to have to take on all the added stress of a job when no one congratulates them for it, no one thanks them, and no one appreciates them for it? If the difficulty was offset with added status it might be worthwhile, but women used laws to usurp that status.


    • Some may call this “anecdotal” but a childhood friend of mine who is a director in the money market departement at a big bank in Canada ( he pulls half a million a year ) has told me that for a few years now that specific bank has an unnoficial/unwritten rule; hire women almost exclusively from now on.

      He told me they rarely hire men anymore even if women are less qualified.

      There is a war on men, this is not paranoia or conspiracy theories.

      There is a war on men.


      • once i waited in a Robert Half recruiting office for several minutes. During that short time, at least six women walked in and were immediately and warmly greeted by a recruiter. They never had to wait like me, instead they were led back into a private room by various sales reps.

        When my turn finally came, the woman did not even have a copy of my resume, though she could have simply printed one. She wasn’t even the person who talked to me on the telephone. She got irritated when i asked a couple questions She basically kicked me out, and i never got any leads.


      • I was working in London, UK, in financial sector. What happens is that HR is working under “guidelines” and when you need to hire, surprisingly you mainly only get either minority (well… its UK so men of color are not that much minority, whatever) or women CV to your desks. Its a problem, but not a huge one because usually there is one white male in there, who is waaaayy more qualified than anybody else. And then when you hire him, HR looks sad and ask “really, none of the other were any good?”.

        The bigger problem of this whole thing is graduate programs and hiring. In there, it is harder to make a difference between people, so you end up hiring how you took people in to interviews (minority men/women). When I got in I was interviewing same time as graduate program people. It was 2 girls, 10 minority guys and two white guys. Most of the people mentioned had bachelors from a middling university, while me and the other dude had PhD and two Master’s from top schools. It was quite obvious what was happening.

        The reason I got hired was because in the last phase they always tend to bring your direct boss to interview you; they don’t give a fuck about diversity, they just want the best one available to help them.


      • I work for a big US telecom. Women get preferences for all hiring and promotions. I’m not interested in moving up the ladder, but if I were I’d find another employer.


      • Well, I work entirely with men, there has never been a female in our group. If no women ever apply, they can’t be treated specially. But I have definitely seen women given quite extreme preference in things that would be shameful for men or otherwise completely frowned upon, such as special assistance writing a thesis and outrageous promotions. I have also seen the rise in these ridiculous special women’s groups and jobs in the tech sector. For example, look up zoe quinn’s game she has made money from. It is a text based game, ie very simple and basic requiring no skill or effort to make, that simulates what it is like to have depression called depression quest. To me that sounds like the opposite of what a game should be, fun, yet it sells, and it won awards. The entire tech sector is overrun with this nonsense, and so apparently is the financial sector. You can include the gov sector and probably others too.


      • The problem is, most middle management no longer understands tech, so to them, one “coder” is as good as another… or so it appears, coming out of the gate. Note, in their inferiority complex, they will refer to a software developer or engineer by some dismissive title (geek, coder, etc.) when, as we all know, those sort of jobs entail far, far, FAR more duties and abilities than “mere” coding or slapping together of components.

        Anyway, by the time the middle management drones learn that one warm body ISN’T as good as another (and therefore, go for the cheapest), the project is already verkackt, and they’ve probably already moved on themselves.

        So a woman comes along, more or less “competent:” if you’re lucky, but no whiz, and since she’s got a man to support her, be it daddy or hubby, she can fly in under the radar and offer her services for half to two-thirds of what a man has to make, in order to support a family.

        Multiply this by decades and it becomes where a man can no longer support a family on his income alone, and the nuclear family starts to hit the cyclotron wherein the proverbial center cannot hold.

        Alas, Babylon!


      • There IS a war on men. Even when it damages enterprises (and it does,less competent, pregnancy leave etc.) they still do it.


      • Random thought: Why don’t we men start identifying ourselves as women yet remain in every way men and then take advantage of the laws available? For example, I just saw notice of a women in tech founder conference for women to sign up to. I think if I applied and simply told people I identify as a woman, the pseudo-intellectuals would have a hard time finding a way to say anything negative because what are they? Transphobic?


      • Gent’s – the sad sad truth is that in most white collar paper pushing busy work type jobs women will OUT WORK men. They are fully fully invested in their job. and think about it, most “men” in this kind of environment are beta at best, if not gay.

        I had 200 people working for me at one point. Without question the best were women, especially single moms.

        Did they have ideas… no. Did they grow sales… No No No. Did they come up with new technology – no. But grind, push paper, follow up, stay late…. damn they were the best. And they literally fall in love with their Alpha SVP’s, CEO’s etc. and try to please the few dominant males.

        You see the problem really is guys are doing too much women’s work. Your average mid level corporate manager is a glorified secretary.

        Men, stick to male jobs – Sales, finance, business development, start ups, tech, science, health, construction, engineering etc etc etc.


      • “women will OUT WORK men. ” “Without question the best were women”

        this agrees with what i have heard men say about the accounting field.

        this is why i regret going into the field, instead of a manly or vocational career such as auto mechanics.

        Thinking small about petty things is a bitch paradise.


      • Welcome to the new reality boys.


      • @juro

        So pivot. Do you have a CPA? If so, get into a hedge fund or PE firm. Start as an accountant, then work up by moving around to a CFO.

        Or if you did audit work, go in house at a client and work into a CFO role. Huge flexibility in this role, chance for equity in smaller firms and cash outs when they get sold.

        In five years you can work in virtually any company because they all need finance and accounting help.

        If you don’t have a CPA you better go get one.


      • I beg to differ with Sentient. Men don’t file all these frivolous complaints and women don’t build teams as men do. Men don’t bring all of their personal issues to the office to emote over. I’m sure a team of men, even doing paper pushing beta work will out perform twice the number of women doing the same kind of work if given a level playing field. I won’t hire women at all if I can help it. They are nothing more than distractions and create even more distractions once entrenched in an office. Kinder, Kueche, Kirche.


    • @Sentient nails it. I wouldn’t draw such a bright line between male jobs and female jobs and roles, but you see it all the time in elite professional services organizations too – look at the 24 year old college grads in entry level roles. The women are simply better employees on average – far more diligent, conscientious and systematic and organized. The men are all over the place – far more outliers on both ends of the spectrum.

      Later on of course lots of the women marry their bosses (or equivalent) and drop out onto the mommy track so damn few reach senior management.


      • I won’t disagree with you or sentient in that women might be better at some jobs and for goodness sake, if they are better, what are men doing complaining? But I will point out that what is objectionable isn’t that but more the attacks on men when it turns out that the most qualified also happen to be men. For example, a graduate program in science gets 99% men applying to it and then one unqualified woman who they let in and then write her thesis for her and then she is given an assistant professorship right after graduating. All this because she is a woman. Or when a tech start-up hires 4 engineers and they are all men and then the company comes under attack. It’s more this latter issue that irks me than women filling up secretarial jobs. The secretarial jobs will likely go to the robots soon anyways.


  14. The war on men and war on Whites took off in earnest with the end of the Cold War. GenXers were graduating from college and high school. Anti-White/PC messages flooded popular crude. Out with panty raids and in with date rape. Young men with jobs were in confusion as women showed no intereest in family formation. Interracial dating exploded. A degenerate president took office and immigration started heating up.

    With the collapse of the USSR, America assumed global leadership as the sole superpower. In perpetuity, it seemed per the “end of history” self congratulations.

    But Pax Americana has been a disaster, abroad and domestically. Whatever the US went, it sew chaos, not the least within its own borders.


    • Young men with jobs were in confusion as women showed no intereest in family formation.

      That’s exactly what happened. The culture lags changes in society – conventional wisdom was a man who kept his nose clean and had a stable job would be considered “marriage material” by women looking for husbands. But the women weren’t looking for husbands until their fertility was mostly gone. We just didn’t realize it.

      It’s been going on long enough now the culture as caught up with facts on the ground, so the millennials know the score. That’s why a large number of men survey the landscape and decide they’d rather spend time getting all their WoW characters to the new level cap than bust their asses at the gym and at work.


      • on December 19, 2014 at 6:02 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        What’s interesting in my peer group is the coming back of dowries. My brother’s wife and most of the wives of my friends came along with an apartment into the marriage. I know only a man who married a woman who didn’t have much. It’s also men mostly marrying either their high-school sweethearts, women about 5 years younger who refused fast fucking and the like.

        I’m sure marriage in general isn’t like this in my country, but in the middle class and up circles, this is how it works.


    • “Young men with jobs were in confusion as women showed no interest in family formation.”

      Bingo. Nailed it.


  15. Let us never forget that many men especially in their teens or twenties use seduction skills, GAME, to get sex these days from women. They don’t even need to be decent providers. It was like this when I was young, and I was born in 1968. I’m sure it is even more like this now for the men in their teens and twenties. Contrast to my father’s, more so grandfather’s and most of all great grandfather’s day when men had to work in order get paid just so they could get laid either with a wife or with a whore, prostitute.

    Speaking of prostitution, even more men would opt out if it were legalized and even less men would try to learn GAME. Take a look at what porn has done to help men go their own way, MGTOW, and ignore women, marriage and children. With legalized prostitution, there would even be more men who ignore women, marriage and siring children as they would find that few men can fuck better looking than whores, can get the kinds of sex acts they want and get sex almost upon demand as long as they have the money to do so. I’ve advocated GAME over Prostitution if for no other reason then what will you do when the money runs out and it teaches one to be better at manipulating others to do one’s will in a very Machiavellian way. However, let’s be honest, most people choose the easy way out most of the time and it’s easier to go Whoring than GAMING.

    This leads me to my final point. I remember reading in Superfreakonomics book that 5% of Women either were or had been prostitutes in the USA in 1900. However, most women had not been prostitutes nor cock carrousel riding sluts. Let’s say that number was at least 75% and more likely at least 90% of American women in 1900 would be my guess. The numbers have completely reversed and maybe only at most 3% of American women either have been prostitutes, but at least 75% if not over 90% of American women born after 1964 have been cock carrousel riding sluts. This seems to be true of all Western Countries. That’s not even the worst part with the exception of you getting cuckolded and charged with child support for a child who is not yours. Then you add that 60-65% of American Women are what would be called DOMINANTS who love to boss men around and are what we might call HARPIES who are so self centered and uncaring for men and even their own children that more and more men just say no to marriage then no to jobs to support marriages and children.


    • There is no way in hell that its over 50% for even Millennials. I can name so many girls/women who have had multiple relationships, but havent been hypersexual quasiwhores.

      Other than that, you are basically right.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 8:13 am haunted trilobite

        what’s the difference ? It only takes 1 page boy to hold her wedding dress as she walks down the aisle, but it would take 3 dockers to hoist the barrel load of semen she’s had dumped in her over the course of her ‘multiple relationships’


      • What would be considered a quasi-whore yesteryear would not be considered a quasi-whore today. At least my generation had women who were serial monogamists, but this begs 3 questions which I will state next. How many penises have you attempted to ejaculate (hand-jobs and tit-jobs count) and how many penises have you had inside you(every woman has 3 major orifices: oral, anal and vaginal) and where did these men stick their cocks into?

        I imagine that even the young women of today are mostly serial monogamists but to a lesser extent than my generation was and I am old enough to be their father. So what! My parent’s generation were more of serial monogamists than my generation and less into one night stands and hook-ups. Go back 100 years and the only women who had attempted to ejaculate more than one penis in their life time were widows or whores.

        You can have a woman tell you that she has only dated 5 or 10 men by age 28 in her entire lifetime and that she only had sex with men she was in a relationship with. WONDERFUL!!! That leaves her better than cock carrousel riding sluts who have had many one night stands and hook-ups. Here’s the thing though. This woman who was a serial monogamist has had at least one penis that she has ejaculated without being married before she decides to marry you. Most women have ejaculated more than that-let’s say 50% or more. How much do you want to bet she is what Rollo Tomassi would call an Alpha Widow on his The Rational Male blog. Then there’s the link the Free Northerner blog provided showing that about two-thirds of married women state that they have had better sex with men who are not their current( and maybe former) husbands.


    • “However, let’s be honest, most people choose the easy way out most of the time and it’s easier to go Whoring than GAMING.”

      It’s easier if you have money. No money, gotta game. But in general yes, gaming is work. I get exhausted sometimes just reading the posts on text message analyses and the hoop jumping going on in order to get laid.

      Time for a nap.


    • “This leads me to my final point. I remember reading in Superfreakonomics book that 5% of Women either were or had been prostitutes in the USA in 1900. However, most women had not been prostitutes nor cock carrousel riding sluts. Let’s say that number was at least 75% and more likely at least 90% of American women in 1900 would be my guess. The numbers have completely reversed and maybe only at most 3% of American women either have been prostitutes, but at least 75% if not over 90% of American women born after 1964 have been cock carrousel riding sluts. ”

      Well i will tell you my friend it is very very hard to go out these days and NOT be approached by beautiful young women who are either straight up escorts/hookers or are now all “seeking arrangements”. Very hard. At least in any high end bars and lounges. I see “peak pussy” is upon us, I don’t think there was ever a time of so much financial abundance (on average) in the hands of sooooo many beta men. I would be long on pussy exchanges like sugardaddies etc.


      • And tell me how sugar-daddy coupled with sugar-baby isn’t Prostitution which is more expensive coupled with more plausible deniability? And how is marriage much different from that? Oh. you can’t!!!


  16. The system is cracking at the seams. Now the question is, how do we exploit the coming collapse? It’s getting to be time to form warlord bands.


    • Move you and your friends into a rundown area. Befriend the police. Keep track of what happens. Make sure all security cameras are destroyed on a regular basis. Make sure the area stays rough to the wrong sort of people. Cash only. Stockpile.


      • Befriend the police, that’s funny.

        Teach them to fear you is better.


      • Heh. On the bright side, you will then get to practice your prison game: spinning pen pals, the Baltimore prison guard harem, or perhaps even a teen Manson bride.

        Actually, regarding Burton’s question: joining the force could be a pretty good way to prep too. Keep the goal in mind and stay off the donuts.


  17. they are less likely than previous generations to be providing for others

    Men, today, know that the deck is stacked against them and there is nothing they can do to change it. My solution was to subvert the system, to create businesses “owned” my various minorities – where I pocket the money. But it took time and a lot of hard work to figure out how to subvert the system. Most of the early tricks I used have closed, but I’ve gotten better, and moved things off shore. Taking advantage of law-suits to sue myself (under another name) and settle – to move money out of the US, that I got via appearing as a “minority”… Today, most men just don’t see the advantage, and I understand. I’m just too pig-headed to let them get away with their sh*t… So I subvert the system. Most young men can’t do that, and I wouldn’t if I hadn’t wasted so many years of my life thinking the system would work. It doesn’t. It’s gone.

    Just accept it… Most men today do accept it, and see no advantage to wasting time playing a game, where the rules change and are stacked against them. They know they will lose – so they just accept it, and go from there.

    So I take the free money for appearing to be a minority in business, and enjoy sex with lots of young women, but I have no illusions. The US is doomed. I accept it, and look out only for myself – because if I don’t, no one else will… I will be the last US citizen in my line – I didn’t abandon my country – it abandoned me.


  18. Low wages my ass. Someone has to sweep the floors, whether a retard, a negro, or a wetback. Having a job of any kind is always better than sucking off my tax money. Welfare recipients should be executed.


    • I know what you are thinking:

      Low wages my ass. Someone has to sweep the floors, whether a retard, a negro, or a wetback.

      Illegals and cut-throat capitalism have pushed these low-level welfare-class jobs wages (like the broom pushing you mentioned) so low now that it’s not a living wage, literally now it’s maybe half of a living wage. Pushing a broom at a medium sized company 20 years ago WAS in fact a real job, with benefits and such, but this is not the case any longer. The illegals are subsidized by the gov, which is why they can work at these 1/2 living wage rates, but a regular American can’t.

      Same with the H1B’s. The American kid got scammed by the government and society into taking out a 50k loan to work in a ‘STEM” field, and then the corporations turn around and give this kids job to an H1B. No STEM field is immune from this now.

      To give you an example of how bad it’s gotten, when I graduated college, I was billed out at 50 – 75 USD per hour, and I got it. Now, I can barely bill out at 22 an hour. Wages are a disaster, the government has fucked each and every one of us.


      • Well said. The problem on the Right side of the political spectrum in the US has is that those people simply don’t want to pay for civilization upkeep.

        Its understandable, from the British POV the “Founding Fathers” were a bunch of treasonous tax cranks after all and that Economic Liberalism is baked into the ideological cake

        The TL;DR version is they think an internal peaceful orderly society is a free entitlement when its not. Its a product of carefully spent money and incentives and cutting wages and importing cheaper labor erodes those incentives.

        Now we’ve managed to deal with this by importing massive amounts of more tractable labor and resulting to a drugged up gulag state but it cannot and will not go on indefinitely.

        The Left of course doesn’t mind taxing and spending and at least kind of understands this but frankly much of what they believe is so stupid, they can’t sustain a society either.

        The real key is Social Conservatism and Economic Conservatism (aka Economic Nationalism with work and wage sharing and closed borders)

        Do those, homogenize society where possible and it can be made to limp along. Don’t do that? You won’t like the results


      • on December 17, 2014 at 11:33 pm Bobby Cuddlefuck

        Thank you peak finance. I’m really tired of people who don’t understand the economics at play and throw their vitriol at the poor. The system has been gamed and we are the chattel of the United corporations of America.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 12:19 pm The Spirit Within

        Glad to read some RealEconomicTalk here. Hope the race-war haters are reading this and taking notes.


      • Sez the Yid Within and the Legion of Cogdis Marxist toadies:

        Keep focusing on the money and ignore the puppet-masters behind the curtain.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 1:24 pm The Spirit Within

        There isn’t a group alive who won’t take advantage of another group, given half a chance. Jewish people became bankers by Christian law and now have a thousand-year tradition of money-handling. Complain to our European forebearers, if you must.


      • Jewish people became bankers by Christian law and now have a thousand-year tradition of money-handling.Complain to our European forebearers, if you must.

        Letting your Cathedral shillery over-simplification aside for the time being…

        At least stop being so obvious about your shilling for the tribe… if you think this sort of “not our fault, blame your ancestors” exonerates all past sins… and more importantly, the ONGOING and current swinery of your ilk, you’ve got another think coming, Schlomo.

        Want to focus on economics? Here’s the net-net, shekel-grubber: the ledgers will be checked by He who discerns hearts… and all accounts will be settled.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 2:48 pm Bobby Cuddlefuck aka The Hamster Whisperer

        Marxist toadies? Lol. The whole point is to look past the curtain. But those who cling to identity politics will never see that, for they are stuck in their embankments of hate of the “other.” Those who cannot see people as individuals are intellectually lazy. Sure, dna dictates that a certain set of traits will show up in higher proportion in certain groups, but we are not wedded purely to our genetics.


      • Getting a STEM degree was a disaster for me, I’d have made more enlisting in the army.


      • on December 18, 2014 at 5:58 pm The Spirit Within

        What’s the similarity between Greg Eliot and a 5-year-old? Their insults only make sense to *them*.

        “My ilk” and “Schlomo” and “muhdik” all his other tropes — it’s like a kindergartener sticking out his tongue and shouting “You’re a peanut licker!”, then running away in a fit of giggles. I just tilt my head, peer at the words oddly, and then go back to my work.

        ****By the way, God doesn’t work like an Excel spreadsheet. I know you’re fond of the metaphor, Greg, because you say it a lot, but there are no spiritual accounts to be settled. The idea of double-entry bookkeeping wasn’t even invented until the Renaissance.


      • The whole point is to look past the curtain.

        Sure… takes the heat off the puppet-masters and holds up some easy “corporation” target…

        Look, schmuck… when there’s a problem, it’s not some chimera of “gummint” or “bidness”… it’s like SOYLENT GREEN… it’s peeeeeople.

        I wish you Sunstein shills would just give up the ghost already, here at the chateau… your distractions convince no one.


      • “There isn’t a group alive who won’t take advantage of another group, given half a chance.”

        LOL. That is emphatically not the case. Spirit Within, that’s your Jewish DNA perspective. We know you literally cannot imagine it any other way.

        “Don’t Jew me on the price” is a well known saying for centuries, and everybody knows what it means, because stereotypes are based in truth. People observe the same behaviors in certain types repeatedly. Exceptions prove the rule.

        Jews are obsessively obsessed with accumulating money and power, controlling government, infiltrating nations not built by them, and telling others what to do — always pushing society towards communism and totalitarian government. The authors of the Bible observed it 2,000 years ago and every society has observed it every year for 2000 years since.

        Northern European whites, on the other hand, are often pathological altruistic and, on average, value family and “calm” over accumulating money and power. This is why even “conservative” politicians never fight hard enough to stem the slide toward communism; they are not truly conservative or they would not be running for political office in the first place, where they get to tell people what to do. It takes a special kind of ego disorder to want to be the mayor, president, or senator.

        The truly conservative “silent majority” just wants to have a decent, free, calm life with our families. We want true freedom to mind our own business and have others mind their own business. We don’t have a desire to be mega-wealthy or tell others what to do.

        Your comment is actually surprising to me, because you seem to be intelligent and you usually make some effort to deny that you are Jewish. This comment is, well, comically stupid and “tone deaf” (oblivious). Another trait that is apparently engrained in Jews is their inability to perceive (or care) how others see them. Constantly bitching, complaining, telling others how to live their lives, pushing for debasing of civilization and the family, stirring up trouble.

        Dude, it’s been observed for 2,000 years.


      • By the way, God doesn’t work like an Excel spreadsheet. I know you’re fond of the metaphor, Greg, because you say it a lot, but there are no spiritual accounts to be settled.

        How many times do have to get spanked before you stop showing your ignorance of Scripture, boy?

        Deut: 32:35
        Romans 2:6
        Romans 12:19
        2 Cor 5:10
        Rev 20:13

        That’s just off the top o’ mah haid… you know-nothing knave.


      • What’s the similarity between Greg Eliot and a 5-year-old? Their insults only make sense to *them*.

        Don’t mistake your lack of discernment for immaturity in others, dummkopf.


      • on December 22, 2014 at 8:42 am The Spirit Within

        And how many translations of the Bible have there been since the Renaissance, Greg Eliot? Has it never occurred to you that the Bible is the work of MEN who are born into particular times and places, with all of the biases that go along with such things?

        I actually KNEW a priest who’d worked on the New American Bible. He laughed out loud at anybody who suggested taking it literally. He told stories about needing to finish a passage at one in the morning, two glasses of scotch in, bleary-eyed.

        Grow up. See the world for what it is.


      • If your point is that, since there are many translations (most of which in agreement) done by men, Scripture is merely the work of men, well…

        … there is a vast history of Western Civilization that will gladly argue THAT particular point.

        That said, it has nothing to do with the contention at hand… you don’t believe that God has a reckoning in store for Mankind, and perhaps don’t even believe in the God of the Bible, since it’s “merely the work of men”.

        The difference between us on THAT issue is, you have merely your feelings and interpretations about what Scripture is or isn’t… I have my faith that it is, indeed, the Word of God… and the words themselves to gainsay your warm-fuzzy Mickey Mouse morality and ignorance about the nature of God in re love-cum-justice, which He Himself tells us in His Word.

        Which is pretty much the purpose of said Word… and why it has survived, indeed thrived, all these eons… though some men have attempted to corrupt it when they could not outright eradicate it.


    • An inverse Jacobin! How quaint.


    • If you have a job and are paying taxes you are the problem. You are supporting this anti-male, anti-white system. You are paying for the police that throw men into jail, because some lying cunt is feeling slut regret, or is angry at the guy. You are paying for the government civil rights lawyers who sue businesses because they have not hired enough Americunts or apes. Tax payers are propping up the system, while the moochers are bleeding the beast. By paying taxes you are actively supporting white genocide, pro Americunt policies, and pro-faggot policies.


  19. on December 17, 2014 at 5:13 pm juliantheapostate

    Q. How are these men able to not work?
    A. Get on disability.
    The labor participation rate is at an all time low because people are “retiring” aka they are getting on disability. Most of the disability claims are bogus and fraudulent. Another strain on the treasury . Men in their mid 40’s getting lifelong disability checks. Boomers going on social security , illegal aliens, food stamps, welfare the system is going to collapse. Time to head for the tall grass.


  20. People say I’m crazy doing what I’m doing,
    Well they give me all kinds of warnings to save me from ruin,
    When I say that I’m o.k. they look at me kind of strange,
    Surely your not happy now you no longer play the game.

    People say I’m lazy dreaming my life away,
    Well they give me all kinds of advice designed to enlighten me,
    When I tell that I’m doing fine watching shadows on the wall,
    Don’t you miss the big time boy, you’re no longer on the ball?

    People asking questions lost in confusion,
    Well I tell them there’s no problem,
    Only solutions.
    Well they shake their heads and they look at me as if I’ve lost my mind,
    I tell them there’s no hurry…
    I’m just sitting here doing time.

    I’m just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round,
    I really love to watch them roll,
    No longer riding on the merry-go-round,
    I just had to let it go.


    • Love the post and comments/analysis. I picked up a book recently and the foreword was a historical one, suggesting that the same problems of ancient Greece and Rome were there. Specifically the author mentioned bread and circuses, storming the treasury, lewd behavior and sexual misconduct, feminization of society (prompting this post), as well as various moral decays that are similar. Could we be just seeing another trend that we repeat history and never see it or correct? That is the precise destruction is the correction? Are we just Cassandras? Or do you all actually think it can be turned around?

      [CH: i believe we are doomed to repeat history, and i believe i am fated to laugh and say ‘i told you so’ as we all go down.]


    • As soon as you’re born, they make you feel small,
      By giving you no time instead of it all


    • It takes a worried man, to sing a worried song (x3)
      I’m a worried now but i won’t be worried long


    • on December 18, 2014 at 10:07 am The latent sadist



  21. If men cannot outperform women they will not perform at all, and society will be lucky if male energies are merely wasted in narcissistic display rather than in disruptive violence and machismo. A man with nothing to offer a woman save a paycheck the size of her own is impossibly disadvantaged. He will know, and his wife will know that he knows, that the words “I don’t need you, Mister” are always at her disposal and, thanks to the anti-male bias of the divorce court, she has an authority in the family greater than his own. Patriarchal capitalism prospers because it creates an arena of work wherein males are allowed to succeed and create wealth and where they are motivated to do so and rewarded for doing so by the satisfactions of family living

    – f roger devlin


  22. “Divorced women get custody of children, and men pay child support. So some number of these no-employment men living alone are indeed providing for others, just not in the way they would prefer.”

    Likewise, thanks to government-enforced resource redistribution, beta males are unwillingly providing for the carousel riders who despise them (to say nothing of the hordes of other parasites infesting this society). This is a powerful disincentive to earn more than the minimum necessary for survival.


  23. Dalrock has written on this topic quite well. He is 180 degrees opposite of the pua but he takes the red pill nonetheless.


  24. NO HYMEN, NO DIAMOND. Yes. Forever and Ever.


  25. Heidegger has this concept of Dwelling.

    It goes back to the etymology of the word. Bauen, says Heidegger, relates to nearness and neighborliness and also implies “to cherish and protect, to preserve and care for”. Bauen also relates to the old High German word for building, “baun,” which means “to dwell” in the sense of remaining or staying in place.

    In emphasizing this link to place, Heidegger suggests that building relates to dwelling, which therefore can be said to involve a sense of continuity, community, and at-homeness. The crux of dwelling, Heidegger argues, is sparing and preserving–the kindly concern for land, things, creatures, and people as they are and as they can become. As human beings, we cannot fail to dwell, for dwelling, ultimately, is the essential existential core of human being-in-the-world from which there is no escape.

    At the same time, dwelling is just as much a means as an end. There will always be a certain tension, a kind of imperfection, between what we wish, do, and make. The significant questions are how do we dwell in our own particular situations and how can we shape the quality of our dwelling for better or worse? Heidegger links the quality of our dwelling to the quality of our building.

    Heidegger also argues that, in practical terms, dwelling involves the gathering of the fourfold–the coming together of earth, sky, people, and a sense of spiritual reverence, or “the gods,” as he signifies higher realities. In this sense, dwelling is no mere extension of existential space or place; rather, “it becomes itself the fundamental human activity, in the light of which both place and space find their first clarification”. As Heidegger interprets dwelling, the built environment is crucial because it supports and reflects a person and group’s way of being-in-the-world. The built environment is a certain embodied grasp of the world, a particular way of taking up the body and the world, a specific orientation disclosing certain aspects of a worldly horizon. The world in which we find ourselves completes us in what we are, and therefore the specific nature of the built environment becomes crucial.

    In other words, people are immersed in their world, and this immersion is qualitative, subtle—in many ways, ineffable. Thus a walk through a well‑tended garden evokes a different state of being than a similar walk through an uncared‑for garden or an unsightly vacant lot. Similarly, entering a church evokes a different human stance than entering a nightclub or a shopping mall or an empty street or a street filled with human activity. One aim for aim for architects is to become sensitive to these experiences and to become more aware of how specific qualities of the built environment enhance or stymie particular human experiences.

    This is fairly big leap to state, but I blame a lot of what is happening with a degradation in the idea of “Dwelling”, both in the “build” sense and the “dwell” sense.

    What Heartiste says is more about the later meaning. What he states indirectly is that part of the “dwelling”, that “you are” somewhere, is based on the quality of your existence. Heidegger calls this “Dasein”, “Being”. And as a man, a woman is a component of this “being”, perhaps the single most influential component in driving “the good” or “the bad” of that “Being”.

    But also the idea of “dwelling” as the verb-ish thing, related to “build”, has a component in this also. All rooms have the combination of patterns, the combination of floor, roof, and walls. It is the action of the room, weight, texture, and light that give the “building” its “meaning”. The quality of the “building” provides the quality of “the dwelling”.

    I am experiencing both “meanings” in my life right now here with Kate. And both meanings are symbiotic with one another. We have one particular room that is focal to all our lives and this room draws all of us and we “dwell” in that room. And it is the quality of the “dwelling” that enhances the “dwelling” and I used the same word for both meanings exactly for a purpose, that both feed each other.

    And it is exactly that “Catch-22” that has us in the state we are in. I firmly believe that the plummet in marriage has a cyclical effect and has really been in force since the Dot Com Recession in 2002. Women will not marry unless the man offers utility to her in her role as a woman.

    And it is in the “Building” that create men’s utility. The core of the American economic engine is in “the building”. Wealth in America is created when men dig dirt out of the ground and turn it into concrete and “build” with it. Every other economic activity in this country is “holding the coat” for “building”, meaning it provides a product in support of it, a product or service creating things to put into it, then services to pay for and insure it, transportation to build it, transport the things used in that building, to get to and from it. All else sits on top of it. It is like an inverted pyramid where the base is the point, and that base is “the building”.

    And it is in “the building” that the male job is created. And it is in “the building” that American manufacturing occurs. When it is stated that manufacturing has “left America”. It isn’t true. There is significant manufacturing that does occur here and can only occur here because of the nature of the things manufactured. And those things are used in “the building”: Windows, doors, sheet rock, hardware, electrical parts, roofing, flooring, paint, tools, machines, fasteners, and the list goes on and on. But when we don’t “build” those male jobs disappear. And it is in those jobs where male utility is “built”.

    Those jobs and the nature of them best utilize male strength and strengths. Those jobs are by their nature entrepreneurial. They are the place where the “small business” truly is formed and are the type that by grit and drive, any man can start with a hammer and a saw, or a shovel and wheelbarrow and begin. Those jobs are the place where “trust” is “built” and the networks that are created, the relationships formed, the partnerships, big and small are based on that “trust” that comes from the “building”. Credentials mean little, the “building” is everything.

    I am 59 years old. When I was a boy, the “building” was different. And it has changed over time to a sort that was only made possible, only made competitive by the influx of millions of cheap immigrant workers. One of charts above shows a “leveling” of male income even though GDP increased that began in 1975. It was about that time when this other form of “building” began to push out what had existed prior to this time. And also I believe the “quality” of the “building” began to decline into a cookie cutter, everything looks the same, has the same feel. And in this reduction in the “quality” of the “building” there was a corresponding reduction in the “quality” of the “dwelling”.

    To come and be with Kate, I left Texas. Texas is probably the “newest” state in America and it was built primarily in this new manner. It is “diverse”. And it was built by imported Mexican labor. And came to the Great White North. And there is no Mexican labor here, no cheap immigrants. And what I found here radicalized me. Before, I was ambivalent about race. Mexicans were fine. I liked them. They brought a flavor to Texas. They are earnest and hardworking people with traditional values, devoted to family.

    But what found here was throwback, a community of homogeneous whites, a clean safe, organized, well run, efficient city, schools that can be kind to attend, the embedded cohesion that comes from a place where everyone looks, acts, thinks, and believes in the same way. And most importantly, trusts.

    And what I found here was a return to the “quality” of “the building” that leads to a “quality” in the “dwelling”. This town is no richer than most, actually many incomes are at or even below the national average. But it doesn’t look like it. That is because of the “quality” of the “building”, a “building” that is done by . hand, by white contractors, without cheap immigrant labor.

    And it is in that “quality” of the “building” that creates the “quality” of the “dwelling”, and it is in that “dwelling” that men value women and women value men. It is in that “dwelling” that women say “I want that. That is what I want.”

    And when those women say “That is what I want.” and that they do what they must to get that, act as they must, “be” as they must, then they begin to construct the demand that begins to “build” those male jobs in “building”. It is symbiotic; one cannot exist without the other. With it, both men and women thrive, families thrive, communities thrive. Without it, we are as we are and will stay as we are, at war.


  26. Women are competing for jobs but are not creating them. Other than providing a mass market for their vanity products, they are not forging new industries or technologies. They are marginalizing that small percentage of men who passionately innovate, destroy, and create ideas and take the risks to drive them to actualization

    Though men shank me and insult me, only men provide me with opportunity. Women can only insult me and deprive me of opportunity. Only men, and only a small fraction of them, take the risks that create industry and opportunity. Women can only serve as mere functionaries in man-created structures. When an organization becomes feminized, priority shifts from efficient and profitable production of goods and services to development of labarynthine rules for the comfort and security of women. Ossification and organizational death are inevitable.

    Peter Drucker, in his famous essay Managing Oneself, advised strongly the need to understand your strengths and weaknesses, and observed that you can never win by improving your weaknesses, only by improving your strengths.

    In broader socio-economic terms, we have given women the opportunity to build on their weaknesses (ability to compete against men) and discouraged them from capitalizing on their strengths (youth and fertility). They compete through artifices of fairness and inclusion that are borne on the backs of an ever-dwindling pool of male supporters.

    We have weakened society as a whole by building on women’s weaknesses in attempts to make them the equal of men, rather than encouraging them in their natural strengths. And while this charade is going on, men are encouraged to adopt feminine attitudes and lifestyles at the expense of their own natural strengths, now deemed unnecessary in the new gender-neutral economy.


  27. I wonder what the numbers are for employment of gay men, who also do not have any motivation?

    Speaking of gay men, my ex-wife’s boyfriend cheated on her – with a dude. LOL.


  28. OT – Ok I give up. Maybe a fellow redpiller can help. I am looking for a poem (?) which was posted here, I believe within the past year or so, having to do with a disagreement among trees. It was a metaphor for the strife that has existed between men and women, and whites and non-whites, during the last century. I thought it was written by Rudyard Kipling; it seems the sort of thing he would write, but after extensive searching I can’t find a reference to anything like it in any of the collections of his work.

    I have done a site-specific search here, as well, with no results. Anybody here remember that poem, its title, or the author?

    It went something like [paraphrasing _heavily_ here]:

    There is a disagreement among the trees
    The Dogwoods are angry that the Pines should grow so tall and thin
    Or that the Oaks should grow so strong
    And they now insist on being given the place of the Pines and Oaks in the forest

    …something like that. Apologies to the author who is probably turning in his grave.

    Thank you brothers.


    • on December 19, 2014 at 5:55 am The Spirit Within

      The Trees, by Rush. Neil Peart.


      • That album came out in 1976 or 1977. I had it with the gatefold cover. I remember reading the poem a few times while listening to the album. It was written by the band’s drummer who is a staunch Libertarian. That means you’re not so young anymore J*w within.


      • on December 19, 2014 at 10:26 pm The Spirit Within

        Rush fans span the ages from 16 to 66, dude. And we’re pretty much all straight white Xtian guys .. so knock off the Jewish name-calling crap …


      • That is a wonderful song. It is in my top 5 of favorite Rush songs.

        That is another great one.

        “You don’t get something for nothing
        You can’t have freedom for free
        You won’t get wise
        With the sleep still in your eyes
        No matter what your dreams might be”.

        They may be doing a 2015 tour.


  29. Prole lawyer chick dun fucked up…runs down bunch of pedestrians and doesn’t get rid of crack pipe in car. Pics alone will make you laugh.


    • Almost forgot to mention….she’s part of the tribe too.

      Brags about helping border jumpers avoid deportation.

      Suck it, bitch.


    • She’s wearing a star of david necklace. Why am I not surprised?


    • Hah. She crashed into the “Forever 21” store. This company has been one of the hottest stories in women’s retail in the last decade. Think about that name, though. 21 forever? That’s chick crack (!), to never age past your peak. No dude wants that; you’re nothing at 21, a junior in college with grad school looming ahead or a decade slogging it somewhere before you acquire any money and power.

      21 again? Sure, who wouldn’t want a second chance, but that’s not the name of the store, is it?


      • on December 18, 2014 at 12:23 pm The Spirit Within

        Forever 21 caters to teenage girls, not women. Land-whales can’t fit into their clothing. And the clothing is cheap, intentionally, because teenage girls get bored with clothing so quickly.

        Through my business, I used to know the owners. They came to the US from Korea with about a hundred bucks in their pocket, and now they’re almost billionaires.


    • A yenta smoking crack? That’s surely a sign that Apocalypse is nigh.


    • Don’t worry. Fellow Tribal judge will find some technical reason for acquitting her. She’ll be fine.


  30. Always read between the lines. This story is because Gross is YKW, of course. Who do you think runs Obama’s administration?



      LOL folks. It’s all so clear. Gross is an “American.” LOL. He is an international Jew whose only loyalty is to Israel and the Tribe.

      Gross gets kidnapped doing charity specifically to help only Jews in Cuba, using US taxpayer dollars, and, what do you know? Obama’s administration erases 60 years of major foreign policy to get this one Jew back. I promise you that this deal would not have happened if a gentile were the kidnap victim.


  31. I just have to say that this is an excellent article and cuts through all the politically correct garbage like a scythe through tall grass. It exposes a major fault line in our “society” (if the current mess we live in can be called that) waiting to crack open and take everyone down into the pit, for a society where men are on the retreat signals a matriarchy taking hold, where at the same time a few alpha males control many resources, wealth and women included, with the wretched masses of men subsiding off federal benefits and the internet. Drive through blighted towns in upstate New York and you’ll see it: fat, sloppy white (and black) men sitting on porches of ramshackle houses whilst devouring junk food, while equally overweight single moms increasingly endorse the mudshark lifestyle. Crystal meth producers and dealers with their pimped-out cars become the new ruling classes and cut deals with an enfeebled and remote law enforcement apparatus. (Ogdensburg, for example)

    The article touches on what I like to call the modern Four Horsemen of the Western Apocalypse:


    PS: saw a photo of people doing their Christmas shopping at a Toronto mall in 1970. All respectable-looking Canadians. Compare that to the garbage that populates the malls today: obese, slovenly, unshaven, thuggish, tattooed, brutish men (and women). 40 years ago, even the proles had the decency to show some self-respect when they left the house on a weekend.


    • Spot on. I lived in New York for 14 months. What you describe was typical for central and upstate New York. It was sad to see good people go to waste like that. Then the New Yorkers had the temerity to insult the South. I learned to loathe Yankees there.


  32. The Garbage Generation
    Chapter III
    The Patriarchal System: Putting Sex to Work


  33. OT, but this is too rich to not share.

    This is so full of greasy Chateau drippings that I have to post it:

    A guy supposedly (the whole story sounds like a try-hard wannabe real world RomCom complete with Twitter, Blog, Instagram, Charity all in place to document the situation) bought an around-the-world airline ticket and subsequently broke up with his girlfriend.

    He went on a media frenzy hunt to find a girl with the same name as her so that she could take the girlfriend’s place on the ticket. Other than sounding kinda shady in an FAA/DHS sort of way, that was his goal.

    According to the story, hundreds, maybe thousands of women with the name matching his girlfriends sent him letters, pictures, etc. explaining why he should pick her to go.

    He finally decided on a girl who wrote “Pick Me!” in bright pink over a picture of her passport.

    If it’s not already obvious, here’s the Chateau part:

    1. This chick already has a “serious” boyfriend who has reservations about this

    2. She has spend hours talking to this guy on the phone and Skype to arrange things

    3. This has the markings of serious cuckoldry, and beta male accceptance of female sluttery.

    4. EatPrayLove (MeetBetrayLoveglove?)

    5. The YouGoGirls coming from the peanut gallery along with the OMGhowcuuute!! shrieks with absolutely no fucks given as to the boyfriend’s feelings

    6. The online commentary from the betamales who are saying “I would totally trust my wife to do this” and when challenged (as happened to me on the Yahoo version of the story), the beta burped, “your relationships must not last very long”. He really got me with that one, those are fightin’ words lemmetellya.

    7. Beta Male of the 2014 goes to the boyfriend of this slut as she intends to spend Christmas and New Years traveling the world with a stranger she met and bonds with over the phone while the BF sits in the living room wiping Cheetoh crumbs off his neckbeard while aimlessly scanning Netflix for something to watch.

    This boyfriend needs a hard-core intervention resulting in an immediate breakup with his GF.

    As this unfolds in slo-mo, we know the new couple is gonna hook up after sharing bottles of wine at a little outdoor bistro in Italy. They will blog about their adventures (this trustfund d-bag’s site is already called “The Adventures of [his name]”, come back and do the talk show circuit, it’s already been featured in People Magazine and the inevitable pitch for TV and book rights.

    So damn transparently obvious is this entire scheme, so flimsy are the foundations upon which it is based (why not just do a nominal ‘name change’ fee and bring a friend along?), but this stuff is chick crack (much like travel itself).

    Bottom line is I nominate this guy Beta Male of the Year for allowing it to happen in front of a worldwide audience. Time to Alpha up.


    • on December 19, 2014 at 6:10 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      If I’d win the lottery, I’d take women around the world too. Not that you have too, but because they make fun travel companions. That’s what’s nice about Western women earning their own shit: they afford this kind of stuff. 😛


  34. There are fewer men working but the productive parts of the economy like manufacturing, mining, agriculture and construction are almost all men. These provide the taxes that pay for all the welfare moms and make work government jobs staffed by women with worthless college degrees. A lot of men are dropping out of the workforce due to lack of interest to be economic provider for an undesirable female. The guys who are still working, though, are generating most of the wealth in this country.


  35. on December 18, 2014 at 10:02 am Eliezer Ben Yehuda

    I’m putting together a template package to license to criminal-defense-attornies who have a client who is accused of rape.

    The backbone of my storyline is: We now have documented academic evidence for the proposition that the statements of rape victims, are unreliable.


  36. on December 18, 2014 at 10:05 am The latent sadist

    I’m forever grateful for ch, but fuck I wanna kill myself sometimes after reading.


  37. chateau heartiste staff, for the love of all that is holy write up a neat, all-out post about the fallacy of claiming that first world western countries were all built by immigrants and that’s why mass third world immigration should be encouraged rather than frowned upon, because it’d mean admitting the natural occurrance of a historical trend. What they fail to notice is that it is not just any sort of immigrant that is helpful to the development of nations.


  38. Men are doing what they have always done; survey their environment, understand it and react rationally to it. And for increasing numbers that means that if they can’t find a women that passes the cost / benefit threshold of commitment they are choosing to go elsewhere, or go without.

    And if they go without, in a world of fast food, loose women and ubiquitous porn, what reason have these men to push themselves in the workplace.


  39. This guy is alpha as fuck, almost psycho and talks about how leftist girls get turned on by right wing opinions and how their weak leftist boyfriends cannot fuck them (they try it in it a consent is sexy-way). Oh and he bashes fat white women with guilt feelings because of their whiteness. It is heartise 101 in a few minutes. It was on national television if I am correct.


  40. The penis mightier than the sword.


  41. on December 18, 2014 at 1:23 pm PimpinBlueStar

    I’m about to sound like everyone’s dad here, but I’ll make my PSA of the day: Porn is a big fucking problem for most guys getting into the game (and even some who have been in a while) as it is WAY too easy to go to pornhub than it is to stay disciplined and eager to get out and game.

    This was a huge problem for me when I was starting out in game. I would study all of this stuff, know how to open, push/pull….all the technical know how from beginning to close. Even had a few great references experiences to remind myself that “Damn right I can do this shit.”

    It would certainly be cool to get the hot chicks, but when it came time to be an icy stone cold closer who gets it done, my drive was just not there. Why? I had jacked off 5 nights in a row (sometimes twice in a day) to porn and when it came time to do the real thing, I didn’t really care all that much. Worse, I wrote it off as “Oh well, I’ll get them next time” or some rationalization that doing that shit wasn’t really hurting me.

    Even worse? When I did hook up, I almost NEVER came during sex. Because I had trained my body to only come from switching between 4 or 5 sex scenes in 2 minutes plus a certain way I liked to grip myself plus stand a certain way….is all of this TMI? (Hope you’re not reading this, mom!)

    If you are not HUNGRY for pussy, you will put in below average to zero effort. Having that hunger helps get you through the learning curve, makes you want to work for it. That’s the stuff that can’t be taught and, IMHO, the reason that most guys give up before they get the results. They read something on here or go to a bootcamp and, because they are pushed there and it’s the norm to approach, they get some good results. Then when they are on their own, they slump back to where they were before. Why? Porn probably plays a big number in it.

    Alternatives: jack off with days in between (or 2-3 days is better) to bikini pics on instagram or playboy still photos (non guy/girl penetration photos). Treat jacking off like a jewelry heist…get in and get out (10 minute max). The HQ threesome videos are too addicting for your brain, and are gonna fuck your shit up in ways you probably don’t even realize.

    It’s been a minute since my last post here! Happy Holidays!!!


    • on December 19, 2014 at 6:07 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      I second this. If I jerk off, I’d approach only supermodels so I refrain from doing it. Not masturbating and having the right mental state going into it are the two background things you should fix before gaming.


    • good to read a post from you again PBS, you inspired me to get out there early on & push through barriers it seemed like I never would. Changes have been massive, big thanks for your comments. How’s your journey & where has it taken you?
      Having experienced ED from porn addiction myself, & having tried to quit many times before finally getting 4 months down the road without watching porn & seeing the results, I would suggest a total ban on jerking to any kind of imagery. Most have prob already seen the Your Brain On Porn site – – the research & testimonials of recovered addicts seems to point to doing away with all visual stimulus, even making an effort to cut down on fantasizing as much as possible & jerk as little as possible, at least until you’ve got back to getting spontaneous wood & being able to have sex like you used to.


      • on December 20, 2014 at 8:01 am PimpinBlueStar

        Cool man, glad I could help! Truth is…im just an average guy who pushed thru all the times that didn’t seem to “click” because a) I knew i could do it and b) wanted it badly. I still get rusty from time to time but my ability to shake it off is quick.

        My entitlement is high, which sort of feeds a positive feedback loop. Im in a much smaller enviornment now than I was when starting out (still an oasis of hotties… It’s nice :)) but I will say the ability to be in a big city when starting out was great becauwe I had so many opportunites to game and if I screwed up royally, no big deal on to the next bar.

        But it’s hilarious now to watch these guys go after girls in this market…pathetic, really. “Do you guys come here a lot? Oh, that’s cool. We work for x. Wanna do a shot? We’re hitting an afterparty at our friends condo you should come!”

        Seriously, that’s a cliff notes version of what im up against lol. An outline of what I do instead is not ask questions and instead make a simple observation, then just keep talking and saying rediculous shit. Then agree and acknowledge that all of these guys around here are lame. Get to the hook point, pull back and tease harder, and bam we’re off to the races. All the while knowing im the fucking best and it’s not even close

        In short to most guys starting, just get out there and focus on being interesting/different/non-needy first. That alone will help you in more ways than one: you’ll learn to at least be friends with girls and vibe with them, then afterwards you can bring sexual intent to the ones that YOU CHOOSE. But the main thing is that you have some good female friendships with hot girls because then, yes, hot chicks are definitely what you are aiming to fuck but it’s no big deal because you are around it all the time casually anyway.

        I have three really hot girl friends that I have never made a move on and never will. Why? Because it’s nice having a a few hot friends plus the feeling that I don’t have to try to fuck EVERY hot chick I see. And, it helps slightly 😉 when you walk in a room with a hot girl laughing and being relaxed. EVERYONE takes notice, and opening becomes a tad more easier.


    • @PimpinBlueStar – thanks for your update & advice. It’s slow going but you’ve confirmed I’m on the right track & I’m dialing in all of what you’re saying, just at much lower levels still. Much appreciated fella. Best to you & a safe holiday season hey. Tear it up!


  42. I read MPC recently They denied your argument that people were having less sex because fat chicks. “Everybody has less sex, not just fat people!” It’s like they cannot fathom that the abundance of obesity makes those who are slim unbearable thus making it harder for dudes to deal with them. The thirst of the average man also rises and makes THEM unbearable to chicks.

    What can you say to a group of people that thinks it’s MEN’S fault that things are this way? Who believe it’s IMMACHOORITAY that is the response to all and everything?

    ““When the legal, entry-level economy isn’t providing a wage that allows someone a convincing and realistic option to become an adult — to go out and get married and form a household —”

    I want to decapitate these shitstains. “You are not an adult if you didn’t do exactly what I did.” It’s almost like you have to be a host for parasites to be considered an adult. Why on earth would anyone do these kind of things given the family court and alimony system?

    “Women have less money than men after divorce.” say PleasureMoron. Well, whoopdeedoo. Thank you very much. A man STILL has to pay non trivial sums of money to his ex wife, a person he may actually hate ON TOP of child support.


  43. TSI: “Jewish people became bankers by Christian law and now have a thousand-year tradition of money-handling. Complain to our European forebearers, if you must”
    Hah! My Quaker part-ancestry will prevail over your tribe’s puny “money”.
    They absolutely _own_ the chocolate/cocoa trade hereabouts since its inception, due to religious disbarment from honest occupations.
    Women are their playthings, muahhahahhhhhaaaaaaaaaa ..
    Kind of compensates for the oatmeal thing.




    1. Probable Yid.

    2. “12. “Where’d your hot friend go?”

    Why it’s offensive: Because it took you two hours to get ready and this guy couldn’t care less.

    The reaction you’re going to get: *Insert insulting snide remark about said friend here*”


  45. She spends 11K per year on Seamless takeout:


  46. Off topic but is this Michael Brown or his twin?


  47. The Kurdish Youtube warriors have put up a new parody of ISIl.
    The thing is, the Kurds are the craziest MFs on planet earth and they realistically cannot be expected to convince the wooden-headed masses.
    But if you guys pay attention, the Kurdish crazy-guys will patiently explain the Future.


  48. Reblogged this on Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar and commented:
    Starve the Beast.
    The Left want people dependant on the state? Fine. Give them it. Sink the ship of egalitarian dreams.


  49. “In 2014 America, cheap online porn is more rewarding than an expensive fat wife…”

    Says it all.


  50. Hi, are you aware of Alain SORAL work ? He is an ex-heartiste who FC +700 women and who became an essayist about sociology and politics.
    He blames the zionists for the Occident decay.


  51. All this negative talk in the manosphere. Get out and see the implosion. Sure YKW cut you out of society, but take a good look at how well that’s turning out. Those Mexicants are making the economy grow – into Mejico. The blacks are burning shit down and destroying the Narrative. The Dollar is so strong that ground beef costs more than a gallon of gas per pound.
    Damn that Reality! Always gets in the way of the Beautiful Delusions of Grandeur that the Media tries to sell! Get your snake Oil before the bottom drops out of The Master Plan!


  52. To all of you haters who knock a guy for having a child at 53: P.J. O’Rourke had 2 when he was in his 50s. Stevie Wonder is 65 and just fathered a second child by his current girlfriend. Didn’t Rod Stewart just become a father a couple of years ago? I have a couple of co-workers who fathered autistic children while in their 20s. When I was a child I had two neighbors who were special needs, and now looking back I don’t remember their parents being noticeably older. One mom with whom I still keep in touch since one of her sons was a buddy of mine (and she was like an aunt to me) who had a special needs daughter who was institutionalized since she was so low functioning isn’t more than 20 years older than me. There was a guy who moved in with 6 kids who was a Mayflower driver (he parked the beast in front of his house on days off) who was easily in his mid 50s and completely white haired. His wife looked like Dawn Wells, and was ~30. I wasn’t allowed to play with the kids though they were great since my mother hated him with every molecule in her body.

    I’ve been told too many times that I’m selfish for not having kids to be told I’m selfish for having them, too. And I’ll be damned if I let you shame me out of fathering children because you disapprove of my age. I spent my 30s and 40s having people drone on “don’t you want a bunch of little you’s running around?” “you’re so intelligent; it’s a shame you don’t have kids and mouth breathers and felons do” or “there’s no greater joy than having kids, knowing you’ll live on through them long after you’re dead.” I used to be blue pill and accepted the line “if you can’t afford kids, don’t have them.” Now I’m red pill, I look at all of the tax money going to the whelps of convicts, gang bangers, dope heads, layabouts, and other motley fools, and figure that the fine examples of humanity that can come from an educated, intelligent, cultured, and somewhat handsome guy of European extraction like me have every right to that government teat as the unfortunate. Who knows, the way we create new aggrieved groups for special care daily, “children of old fathers” may qualify mine for a comfy ride 😉 Given that on both my mother’s and father’s sides, all their siblings lived to 70+ (except one who developed a speedy brain cancer after a car wreck she had and died at 39), Maybe I’m wrong, and there is no God. Then my mandate to breed is my sole purpose for life, and I’m wrong not to indulge it. And if I’m right and God isn’t happy with my hedging my bets, I’ll ask Him how long He can stay mad at me for choosing life as He commanded in Genesis …