Predict This Man’s Romantic Future

If all you had to go on was a couple’s photo together, could you predict the man’s romantic future? Exhibit Gay:

Men made aware of the sexual market undercurrent propelling each person through superficially detached life events woven into a unified whole by the prime directive could glance at this photo and know in an instant, based on nothing but body language cues, the fate of this happy couple.

There is, of course, the obvious. Mixed-race couples tend to fair poorer than same-race couples. And he looks forty years older than her.

But beyond those black and white monochromatic signatures, there are almost equally telling giveaways in his and her body postures that predict their marital fortune. He grasps her with fearful possessiveness. He leans into her like a human Pisa tower. Her smile is all show, no glow. Her dead eyes reveal her emotional distance. Worse, and most humorously, her head has craned away from his head at an angle that precisely mirrors his neck crick. She checked out of this lovely scene long before the camera flashed.

Can you predict his romantic future from this photo? Take a guess before reading further.

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She willingly stayed married to him for 20 minutes after her green card cleared.

Beta males need to learn game and to hear non-nonsense talk about the differing nature of the sexes so that they can spot the clues early in a relationship or even during a first date that a woman isn’t as enamored of them as they are of her. This bracing acceptance of reality would save them time, energy, money, and heartache, and most crucially save them the accumulating bitterness that is inevitably projected onto future women who may be good for them.





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  1. Wow.Just wow. Who could’ve seen that coming…

    White male privilege strikes again!

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    • on September 25, 2014 at 10:22 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      i predict she divorcesz himz
      and marry da prresisndnetz
      lzozllzozololzolzozoz

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    • yes, and “institutional racism.”

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      • You racist male chauvinist jerks are quibbling over a three year old article. They have since reconciled:

        http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/jilted-scottish-groom-57-to-give-1087457

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      • Rush Limbaugh’s opening half hour today came straight from the Chateau and the Manosphere. Talking about a new study where women say that what they want most in their men, even more than “listens to me” [ = herbling], is “stable employment” [= beta bux]. Rush saying “lotsa luck wit dat”, given how Obamanomics has decimated the blue collar job market and how so many dudes are struggling to string together a bunch of parttime gigs [ergo they don’t even qualify as betas with bux].

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      • on September 25, 2014 at 3:00 pm The Spirit Within

        Obama has killed U.S. blue-collar jobs? Really, Zombie? Type that again with a straight face.

        Do you know one solitary fucking thing about the economic history of the world since 1965? I’ll give you two words to start your adventure. One is “China”. The other is “globalization”.

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      • ZS, are you Rush?

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      • LOL’ed – no. But just about every dadgum day [or at least every other day], I get a chill down my spine, because I can tell that Rush has either been following what we’re saying at the Chateau, or else at some other place where dudes just happen to be talking about EXACTLY what we’re talking about. It’s like the dude is sitting right behind me in the dadgum car – and I’m reading the Chateau – and he’s looking over my shoulder reading off of my laptop. Phreaking uncanny. Almost unnerving.

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      • are you Rush?

        Repeated for trenchancy.

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      • A few months ago some of your detractors were speculating about tiu being a basement dwelling some such, and to each such unflattering guess, you replied “ha! If you only knew!”

        Anybody can write “if you only knew” but on the other hand there is no cosmic law that says ‘public figures can’t get involved in blog discussions.’

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      • PA, if you knew what I do all day long, then you would laugh so hard that you would blow coffee [or Diet Coke or single malt whiskey or WTFE you are drinking] right out of your nostrils.

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      • @Tavington:

        U miserable ball-less twat: did u read the fucking report? This mother sumthin hamster is in a class all by herself… and there are eunuchs like u who provide the support for her and her ilk!

        “She actually wants me to scrap my holiday and pay for her to come here,” Johnny said. “She’s angry and claims I’m putting myself first!

        “She says I shamed her because the story has been in the press. She doesn’t seem to grasp it from my perspective”

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      • If Rush is incorporating more Manosphere bits into his show, maybe I should start tuning in again.

        I don’t doubt that Micheal Savage reads Manosphere blogs. i remember him making a comment a few years ago about a growing movement of men who are fed up with trend of being on the short end of the stick due to the result of affirmative action, feminism, etc….

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    • Well hopefully he at least lost his virginity.

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    • Them two got themselves a fucked up deal. I agree with CH’s read on their posture, except for that i don’t see that she has no glow. She very much has lively eyes.

      If you saw that guy outside this picture, would you say he has a weak face? i would not say that. He’s got thin wrists and are those oriental tatoos? Her jewelry is uttlerly tactless (even by Island standards), and if not for those stupid earrings i would not peg her for a non-American black.

      Did he fuck her though?

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    • So Shane got kicked out of his mom’s basement and is living in his car grabbing WiFi behind Starbucks?

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  2. on September 25, 2014 at 8:53 am Charlesz Martel

    Of course, in a society concerned with its own long-term survival, her green card would have been yanked and she would have been deported with a “do not return or you will serve hard time” order. But that assumes a country whose leaders consider it their solemn duty to protect their country.

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  3. […] Predict This Man’s Romantic Future […]

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  4. “He has reported her to police and plans to contact the UK Border Agency and [now he is considering how he will tell his mother].”

    Evidently this situation was not a hard enough slap in the face.

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    • There was a scene in Casino where [I seem to recall that] Pesci’s character was explaining that De Niro’s character wouldn’t marry the WhoreStone until she FIRST pushed out the baby. I can’t find that particular scene on ***tube, so this will have to do:

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    • A 57 year old who still fears his mother, is there any hope for someone like this?

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    • Based on the pic I figured “retiree with a pension, she got half of it when they split after a month.”

      It’s nice to be disappointed for once. She coulda had so much more…

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  5. Is that why Eric Holder is now resigning?

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  6. Men are the true romantics…they believe in far bigger fairytales than women could ever imagine for themselves.

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    • Well, I guess… if shoveling money at a destitute negress from a Caribbean hellhole is your idea of a “big fairytale.” Sounds to me like a desperate attempt to flaunt his progressive goodness in the face of all his easily-impressed, lily white friends in Caledonia… and to get permanent kinky stuff on lock-down. Somehow I imagine it couldn’t have happened to a more deserving socialist moonbat from the once proud nation of Scotland.

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      • this is a bullseye

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      • Well presumably he chowed down on her musty black snatch at least a few times over the course of their “romance”,so he mustve gotten something out of it.

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      • AldoRey & CuiPertinebit

        I say another fine customer… who knew exactly what he was purchasing. You two are afraid that such a snatch will have you screaming for yo’ momma.

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      • Dollars&Sense

        If my momma was an M.D., you’d be right.

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      • Sorted, CuiPertinebit.

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      • Umm hmm, meooow, just like rolling in catnip…now that you’re in…your m.o. of distorted assumptions are quite predictable…yes, you’d be one lucky mf…as the love jones permeates through the required prophylactic and Mother MD would be perfect for freely re-supplying your hurried need to get back to business, and can grant you a MD/Pysch referral to boot…neither of whom could really help a jones–right?; however, mothers love when their sons take precautions and it is such an Alpha thing to do…in the beginning anyway…revs up a girl’s hamster to desire more (WM)skin-to-(BW)skin closeness…don’t you think?…lol..giggle (I qualified the stripes just for your Rock of Gibraltar.) All the best, I get bored easily with the misguided…ta-ta?

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    • he convinced himself that he finally found “true love” after all these years. poor guy. but at his age he shouldn’t have been so gullible even after banging her for 2 years.

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      • Considering what kinds of women Great-grandpa Seamus MacBaldy is probably surrounded by in everyday real life, this one must look like a super-sexy, extra-friendly Miss Universe to him, and is likely his very last shot at anything that vaguely resembles an attractive (or even presentable) human female. Of course she married him for some ulterior motive, there isn’t a chance in hell a 20-something girl of at least average appearance looks at the fossilized remains of what once was a Scot and says “Wow, he’s hawt, I want him!”
        I’m sure she would have preferred Prince Harry (young-ish, blonde – with hair, blue eyes, 3rd or 4th or whatever in line to the throne, etc.), but he has so far failed to hit on her, so she made do with Studmon from de Eye-lahnd while on leave from Cueball Shriveldick.
        This is news?

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  7. Lol, I think we could predict his romantic future based on the race and age discrepancy. Even if she was leaning into him and gazing adoringly.

    I figured it was for money, but green card is just as plausible.

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    • To be fair, older women past their sell by date make this same mistake. Most memorably, Terry McMillan, the author of ‘How Stella Got Her Groove Back’. Unlike the hamsterzations by old women and their leader Oprah, the real life story was that as soon as McMillan’s husband got his green card, he divorced McMillan and came out of the closet to live with his boyfriend.

      Then there’s the issue of race & interracial relationships(as showcased above) which is problematic enough, especially with white-black offspring that are produced. IMO, they look bizarre compared to the white parent. The other problem is that Black Culture sucks. It’s merely one or two steps removed from barbarian jungle blacks and that’s what you’re marrying into. This problem isn’t as severe with white-asian or white-hispanic relationships as both of those cultures aren’t as alien and barbaric as that of blacks. There are issues of course with those pairings(white-asian/hispanic), as there are with any relationship but nowhere near as problematic as the barbaric race and culture of blacks. You might as well as be mating with a real life orc.

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      • Thats what I thought, but then white people put a Halfrican in the white house for 4 years, then reelected him for 4 more?

        Fool me once, shame on me,
        fool me twice, ah, er…

        WE WON’T GET FOOLED AGAIN!

        (smirk)

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  8. Could be an immigration arrangement and she did not pay him up (like the ho who did not get her 20 USD from her john).

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  9. Classic delusional gamma. Look at those puppy-dog eyes:

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  10. He is not in such a bad shape, but if his sexual market value based with Game cannot get him a moderately attractive 35 year old in the UK, then he has no chance of getting a more attractive girl in her 20s.

    By the way – white man/black woman relationships are usually more stable even than white/white marriages – likely due to hypergamy satisfied by some black women who prefer having a white man as a husband.

    In this story the girl already had a lover lined up and ready. Guys not only have to learn Game, but also have to realize that with the internet women can meet guys and even have cyber-sex way before meeting them in person. A poor woman from rural Indonesia can have 3 lovers lined up before getting her Green-card by her Beta-husband in the UK.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 6:57 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      “white man/black woman relationships are usually more stable even than white/white marriages”
      lol

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    • He’s right, divorce stats show white men/black women couples have a lower divorce rate than white/white couples and way less than white women/black men couples.

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  11. That old white man got the same deal our “old white men” civilization is getting from hugging third world diversity.

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  12. “Heartbroken Mr Gannon, who married Patrice in Jamaica early this year, believes his new wife fled to Bristol to meet a Jamaican boyfriend with whom she had organised the scheme.”

    And there it is. I’m sure the boyfriend is a real stand-up pillar of the community too.
    Just look at Mr. Gannon’s woeful hangdog face, so much dejection and broken dreams painted in those eyes. I truly feel sorry for the guy. I mean he’s a charity worker, he doesn’t deserve this no matter how much of a stooge.
    Ah well, it’s just some Jamaican jig so in the end everyone loses.

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  13. Do you think he at least fucked her?

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  14. “There is, of course, the obvious. Mixed-race couples tend to fair poorer than same-race couples.”

    Actually, no. That’s a react-o-sphere myth. Mixed-race couples fare intermediately between the outcomes of the races that comprise them, at least in the U.S. Black-White marriages do divorce more than White-White marriages, but they divorce less than Black-Black marriages. The same is true for Asian-White marriages; they divorce more than Asian-Asian marriages, but less than White-White marriages.

    [CH: all right, everyone chillax about this topic. ferkrissakes, it was a throwaway impression. yeah, i should’ve qualified it, especially given that i remember reading the stat about WM-BF couples (a rarity, btw) having lower divorce rates than the average.

    ps jaybob this is like the first time the subject has been mentioned on this blog. maaaybe one other time, deep in the archives. it isn’t a “reactosphere myth’ whatever the hell comprises the reactosphere… or a myth.]

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    • @CH: “yeah I should have qualified it”
      An admission bordering on an apology? Is this the real CH?

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 12:07 pm alcestiseshtemoa

      @JayMan – Actually, yes. Black women know all about it, and my black female friends (I’m a mixed-raced mulatta from a BM/WF union) have outlined to me how disastrous the union tends to be for all involved.

      BM/WF marriages tend to be statistically rare (the least common), have the highest divorce/separation rates, highest rates of domestic violence, highest rates of single motherhood, lower socio-economic status (range between lower-class to middle-class), more yellow-brown skinned girls (like Halle Berry) and more assimilated to mother’s culture/ethnicity on average (the mother’s tend to be obese/trashy). The family got a heart attack that their daughter had a biracial baby (usually a daughter) with a black negroid and it becomes a form of shame for the family. Family, and friends, from all-over become ashamed, and who gets all of the blame? The stigma goes to the biracial daughter (who, let’s be honest, didn’t exact create the scenario and is just s product of it). This can be seen around the world from the USA, to Canada, to Australia, to Europe, to Asia and other places.

      On the other hand, the even rarer marriage of WM/BF have lower divorce rates than average, tend to be higher socio-economic status, and the daughters tend to be quite light-skinned (tend to take after their father’s looks).

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  15. If they had stayed married, his genetic future would have been destroyed anyway. Sic semper proditares.

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  16. he got off light. I guessed he was murdered.

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  17. I think his main blunder is that the woman is Jamaican. The prime directive for any Jamaican woman is to get the hell out of Jamaica, and a white man becomes merely a means to that end.

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    • yeah he could have scored a much hotter Brazilian who might have stuck around a bit longer.

      The GOOD news is this guy can simply rinse and repeat with another 3rd world chick until he’s too old to walk

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    • She also had a Jamaican beau waiting for her in London. The man had even been warned of that, but when he asked her she said it was in the past.

      Thirty-three years older than her. He was basically buying a live-in prostitute.

      He sent her money for paper work, and then sent more money when she said the first money had been stolen. In total he spent £5,000 on her.

      He deserves this misfortune. Britain however does not deserve to have selfish bastards like him, the Black woman and her Black boyfriend in the country.

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      • Arbiter

        Thirty-three years older than her.
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        Exactly.

        In interracial marriages, not only is the white person usually older than the nonwhite person; but they are also divorced with white children from a previous marriage to a white person.

        This is the main reason why these kinds of marriages fail. The younger nonwhite person “grows up” and realizes the old white person took advantage of them. They want to get out while they are still young enough to start over and not be stuck with an “English Patient.”

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      • “He was basically buying a live-in prostitute.”

        At a SUBSTANTIAL premium. And I wouldn’t presume that at some point he got as much as an old fashioned out of the deal, either.

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      • “He was basically buying a live-in prostitute.”

        Isn’t that basically marriage?

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  18. I suppose from the standpoint of the chick, yeah, anything to get the f**k out of Jamaica. As for the guy, in the words of Dwight Eisenhower, “There is no definitive answer to the question, ‘How stupid can you get?”

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  19. “Mixed-race couples tend to fair poorer than same-race couples. ”

    Source?

    Asian women tend to make much better wifes than today’s white women.

    Chinese women have strong family values and will hardly ever divorce, but are generally very materially and status oriented and bad in bed, so that’s a bit of a caveat.

    Filipinas are known to make good wifes as well – even to beta’ish guys, as long as he has money to feed her extended family. Living in a third world shithole with plenty of alpha guys that knock girls up just to leave them and the general population barely gets by gives them much more appreciation of beta nice guys.

    Black women on the other hand are known to require the strongest alpha game that even most black guys can’t deliver and are quick to flip over to the next better prospect.

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    • All the data I’ve seen heartiste present is with respect to white-black coupling.

      White guys w/ Asian girlfriends I know seem very content

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    • on September 25, 2014 at 10:19 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      Is googling that hard for you? It would have taken you less time to find his source than to write this comment.

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      • “Conversely, White men/non-White women couples show either very little or no differences in divorce rates.”

        http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3729.2008.00491.x/pdf

        Mainly buyers remorse on the white woman’s side:

        “White wife/Black husband marriages are twice as likely to divorce by the 10th year of marriage compared to White/White couples, while White wife/Asian husband marriages are 59% more likely to end in divorce compared to White/White unions.”

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    • You don’t know much about black women, do you? When it comes to the ones who like white guys, they’re utterly submissive.

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      • lol…not. They still need firm pimp game. They ALL like white guys, but you have to be able to script flip, and when you can drop ebonics on them, it’s like speaking the language of a foreign girl, they mark out for that.

        The reason black chicks like white guys is because we have caucasian DNA.

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      • trav777

        The reason black chicks like white guys is because we have caucasian DNA.
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        and caucasian wallets, jobs and tempers…

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      • Re thwack “…and tempers.” I thought the imminent threat of getting Janay Palmered makes the ladies panties wet? Threat game?

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      • AldoRey
        Re thwack “…and tempers.” I thought the imminent threat of getting Janay Palmered makes the ladies panties wet? Threat game?
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        Having a rape fantasy and getting raped are two different things; just ask Amy.

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    • Black women on the other hand are known to require the strongest alpha game that even most black guys can’t deliver and are quick to flip over to the next better prospect.

      Woe isn’t me, missing out on det dere booty

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    • “but are generally very materially and status oriented and bad in bed, so that’s a bit of a caveat.”

      a bit?

      white women are the prettiest, smartest and best in bed. german and swede heritage are best.

      fool around with the others and you will get burned. find yourself a white girl (northern europen stock) from a small town, raised religious in a two parent household strong father figure preferred.

      this gives you the best chance to mold her into the wife you want. stay away from large metro, single parent household, non-religious college degree broads any race but your own. they will take you for everything you got and they got the legal system on their sides.

      find her before 21 and marry by 23. and make sure she always swallows.

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    • The funny thing is that interracial marriages tend to break down more often if white women marry outside race. For men the divorce rate isn’t significantly swayed regardless of the race of the woman with one exception; black women. If a white man marries a black woman he is 44% LESS likely to divorce than if he married a white woman.

      So from the racial perspective it appears that the white man/black woman pairing is the most stable coupling, but it seldom occurs.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States#Marital_instability_among_interracial_and_same-race_couples

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    • You have no idea what youre talking about. White male-black female have the lowest divorce rate by far of any interracial coupling, for the obvious reasons. Black women who date white guys are “ruined” for other black guys, and since there are few white guys who like black women to begin with, they are as feminine and submissive as a woman can be in order to hold their man down. White male-Asian female couplings on the other hand, has one of the highest divorce rates, second only to black male-white female. And thats simply because theres a long line of dopey white guys that will ignore her history because of their yellow fever.

      And its also amusing to note the high rate of domestic abuse in these relationships, as Asian women beating on their white men is not an irregular occurrence.

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      • Very interesting. I wasn’t aware of that.

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      • Wrong. At least acc to Wikipedia Asian female white male marriages are 4 % more likely to divorce than white/white marriages.

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      • Anon123
        Black women who date white guys are “ruined” for other black guys,
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        only to the extent they make you think you have a big dick.

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      • only to the extent they make you think you have a big dick.

        Oh ouch how devastating.

        Though our dicks may be a bit smaller (than blacks), they are still bigger than average.

        And again with brains. Though NE Asians have the highest average, whites are a fraction of a standard deviation below. (Whereas blacks bring up the rear.)

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      • Did anybody get that?

        (((SMH)))

        Now I know how Greg Eliot feels

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      • whatever thwack, i acknowledge that shite, quit shaking your head.

        we are at cross purposes: i want less black … and so do you.

        why do we have to live together? let’s fight it out.

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      • I have a feeling the only reason asian white guys tips more toward divorce by 4 percent is due to white guys buying asian brides and bringing them over.

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    • on September 25, 2014 at 7:26 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

      “Chinese women have strong family values and will hardly ever divorce, but are generally very materially and status oriented and bad in bed, so that’s a bit of a caveat.”

      Having met a few Chinese born Chinese women in Australia (these cashed-up godless yellow heathen are buying up property here at quite a rate) I have concluded that despite being “family oriented” they approach family with a business model mindset. Take along a print out of your assets and your business plan and if you make the grade, you might get to bang her after an appropriate allocation of time, effort and money.
      Not worth the trouble/effort.
      Look elsewhere.

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    • Meanwhile, not one source is provided.

      Judging by the responses here, we’re not exactly dealing with the most intelligent.

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  20. No i truly believe it was him acquiescing to her request to her request to “go get some pot noodle” that was the final straw. Mehhh amateur

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  21. Guy disguising bride shopping as “charity work” deserves to get scammed hard. Now he’s sending her money for “medical bills” http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/jilted-scottish-groom-57-to-give-1087457

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  22. Men on the outside have all the logic and reasoning in the world when it comes to this Hindenburg of a relationship.

    But infatuation is a funny thing when a guy is in it.

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    • This is why it is good to have manosphere blogs/forums for lads to come to with their dating woes. Very often the answer to a question is obvious, they just need to hear someone else say it.

      Very often the answer is: move on, try someone else.

      I have thought myself, what would a forum say about this situation? If I saw someone describe in a forum the problems I have now with this girl, what would I write in reply? That helps you look at the situation dispassionately. Look at the facts without false hopes.

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    • Truth. Easy to pontificate when you are not the one caught up in it.. Anyone who tells u that it has NEVER happened to em is a keyboard jockey like that Minter loser… Best u can do is learn from it and make sure u don’t let yourself be conned into something like that ever again.

      Speaking of whom, has kate dumped his omega ass yet? I see her posting on and off on the forums, nary a mention of the man of her dreams 😉

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      • She only hung with him long enough to get her green card for the manosphere.

        lzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlzolzozlozlozlozl

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      • You sound like a sophomore. Read Siddhartha. And the Bhagavad Gita. Then Gandhi. You might start to find the answers you seek.

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      • “Speaking of whom, has kate dumped his omega ass yet? I see her posting on and off on the forums, nary a mention of the man of her dreams ;)”

        It’s kinda creepy that you monitor her posts and that it would make you happy if they broke up. Maybe get a life and a girlfriend of your own?

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      • Kate, just wondering where is Matthew King these days.
        He hasn’t posted in weeks.

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      • “Maybe get a life and a girlfriend of your own?”

        Either that, or he’s going to have to step up his stalker game. He is waaaaaaay behind the front-runner 😉 I am a merciful woman, but I think it best to refrain from calling me a moron. One might just have to learn the hard way that I’m not. I am not above letting someone have a taste of their own medicine, but I won’t make them drink the whole bottle.

        Vic: I think he’s just simply moved on after his usual Lenten break. Some of us old folk are all settled in and cozy with our spouses and children and have time to keep coming back (not to mention the curse of the mariner to warn the wedding guests). But I got the impression he was still getting where he was going. I have no reason to believe anything terrible has befallen him. I knew of no damage he had caused that would suggest any karmic retribution. He was opposed to sharing anything about his real life, whether good or bad (something we disagreed on), so I think it is safe to assume he is happy and prosperous but won’t be back to tell us about it.

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    • This is why you need a crew (of men) you could trust and who tell you the truth.

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  23. What a chump

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    • All Westerners are chumps. Come on in, garbahhhzge. When someone robs, kills, kidnaps, hell, when someone drops something, you think I’m helping? Let the domesticated garbage burn with the wild garbage. I could use the elbow room.

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  24. God damn she is ugly.

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  25. This may be part of the problem:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/09/24/decline_of_marriage_pew_shows_there_aren_t_enough_marriageable_men.html

    Could some of the senior Chateau commenters tackle this article as the comments section is primarily made up of the Hanna Rosin/Amanda Marcotte flavor-aid drinkers.

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    • Could some of the senior Chateau commenters tackle this article as the comments section is primarily made up of the Hanna Rosin/Amanda Marcotte flavor-aid drinkers.

      Seems rather pointless given that they censor heavily at those feminist rags.

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  26. > “his and her body postures”

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  27. He looks like those guys you see on sex offender sites.

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  28. why does the picture look photoshopped?

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  29. on September 25, 2014 at 10:21 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/08/25/heartiste-if-society-doesnt-mistreat-women-theyll-all-get-fat-and-disagreeable/
    Found this today. It’s ironic that he brags about ridiculing misogyny despite the fact that he’s awful at ridicule.

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  30. @Rollo – there are women that fall for this kind of thing too

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  31. She willingly stayed married to him for 20 minutes before her green card cleared.

    Wow… That long… I’m surprised – although she clearly planned it long before. It always amazes me how many men have zero information about body-language. I pick women based upon it – watching how they respond to our interaction. More than a few times I’ve watched the tell-tale-signs of indifference turn to interest, turn to active pursuit – of course I’ve watched the opposite too, able to point out where I blew it. But the nice thing about how I’ve set things up is there are always other women available – at least when I am in my element. Cold approaches suck – as you have to over come a LOT of resistance. Although over the years I’ve seen more women who don’t throw up the “bitch-shield” as quickly. Maybe it’s because I am so much older and they tend to be more curious than anything else. Of course, if I don’t see active interest fairly quickly, I move on. More than a few times I’ve found that a woman that wasn’t interested early in an evening will warm up as now she “knows” me…

    Anyway – more men should become skilled at reading body language – it will serve them well not only with women, but in business as well. I have won more business due to meeting with the customer than with proposals, because I read my crowd and tend to pick out the ones that are open to being convinced, to those who are enthusiastic, to those who are a lost cause. Most of the time I know if I’ll get a call or not by the time I walk out. The same goes with women – although since the interactions are shorter – sometimes I’m surprised.

    Marrying foreign women, is ONLY a good idea, if you do NOT plan on bringing them to the US. Plan on keeping them where they are – make it clear from the beginning. The US is pretty much rocketing down the tubes, why would you want to come back? I have been setting up to expatriate for a few years – moving most of my assets over-seas. That has gotten harder and harder – but it can still be done. Hey, Congress critters do it – so learn from them, they will NEVER pass a law that hurts themselves…

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  32. Do u think he at least fucked her?

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  33. Damn, what a beta chump. From the story, he spent at least $15K for visa, travel, wedding dress/hair/makeup and spending money (he sent more after she said $1,200 was “stolen”).

    Beta Bux.

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  34. This makes me sick. She should be booted from the country and he should have the shit beat out of him.

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  35. If she is an American black woman she will stick around for her prize a white man. Maybe sexless after a few kids but she is sticking around. If that is a foreign black women she is gone as soon as she is a legal resident

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  36. One of the greatest lies of our time is that age doesn’t matter. Anyone could predict that when the man is 33 years older than the foreign woman, she isn’t marrying for love and it won’t work.

    But we are not supposed to say anything because of the feel-good Feminine Imperative, that women’s interests and viewpoints always come first. You are always supposed to praise love as if it was unconditional and magic, just “something that happens” with things like looks, age, money, status, group belonging and personality having nothing to do with it.

    That is what women want to believe, because they don’t want to think that there are demands placed on them in the dating market.

    I know of a case where a guy who was 23 moved in with a woman twelve years older. They worked at the same place and she still had some of the good looks from her party days. Still dressed in leather pants much of the time. He was the mommy-loving type. I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t close to him, but apparently their parents had kept quiet too, despite this being very much their business. Apparently the woman’s mother had told her, when she had doubted whether the wondrous love could last, that “If you don’t look at the numbers on the birth certificate, then what do you feel? Are you right for each other?”

    Of course it wouldn’t last. This guy wasn’t exactly mature either, he was looking for a quick way to get around the need to date many women. But then he got depressed, got angry at people around him and started drinking, to the point where he even mismanaged his work. The relationship lasted about a year and a half, and now they have shared custody of a baby boy.

    Much misfortune could have been avoided if Manospherian truths had been emphasized, nay enforced, by friends and family. Love is always conditional.

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  37. How did he not see that coming ?

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  38. Dude is probably mentally ill. There is no other explanation why a white man would find a black woman attractive.

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    • Some are, usually because of a fortunate mix with White blood. (U.S. Blacks have on average 23% White blood.) And I have seen some full-blooded African women who looked good. There was a girl from one of the ruling clans in Kenya who looked surprisingly good, like a sculpture I came to think. Now that I think back, maybe she had some non-African blood in her.

      What made her look good, of course, was that she did not have the usual Black traits. Her nose was straight, not flat, and her cheekbones and the rest of her face, all sleek. There are some African women who can even look cute with typical African traits. Yes, it’s usually “cute”, not beautiful.

      But. Most of them look terrible.

      That study from Match com, I think it was, about which racial groups got the most replies, was telling. Black women got the least replies from ALL groups of men – even from Black men.

      (One guess which group of women the Black men replied the most to.)

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      • (One guess which group of women the Black men replied the most to.)

        BBW?

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      • you sayin they look like gorillas or baboons? Dats wayciss

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      • There was a girl from one of the ruling clans in Kenya who looked surprisingly good, like a sculpture I came to think. Now that I think back, maybe she had some non-African blood in her.

        That’s because Kenyans are East Africans, and therefore closer to Caucasians than West Africans. Which is why I have a hard time telling Arabs from Ethiopians.

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      • Arbiter

        What made her look good, of course, was that she did not have the usual Black traits. Her nose was straight, not flat, and her cheekbones and the rest of her face, all sleek.
        ——————————————————————————————

        but what COLOR was she?

        You guys leave that part out as if its not important; but I submit substantial numbers of you people are color struck. How do I know?

        Because I suffer the same syndrome when a white girl comes back from the Cayman islands in January.

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      • corvinus

        Which is why I have a hard time telling Arabs from Ethiopians.
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        Let me help you out with that; one group will cut your head off for not converting to Islam, the other are among the earliest Christians and have repelled every attempt by Islam to convert them for 1400 years.

        Spain fell to the Muslims; Ethiopia did not.

        Why?

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      • Let me help you out with that; one group will cut your head off for not converting to Islam, the other are among the earliest Christians and have repelled every attempt by Islam to convert them for 1400 years.

        More blabbering from the ignorant thwack. The vast majority of Muslims don’t fight back against the globalists, in fact less than one percent of them do. Most Muslim government are allied with Israel’s whipping boys in Washington, who give them money and diplomatic support and turn a blind eye to their corruption, on the condition that they keep quiet about Israel’s murder of thousands of Palestinians and the taking of the last 22 percent of their land.

        But of course, dumb neocon lovers who get their news from teevee think that “Muslims hate us for our freedom!”

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      • Spain fell to the Muslims; Ethiopia did not.

        Why?

        Because the Islamic prophet very specifically ordered the Muslims to never seek to conquer Ethiopia due to the fact that early on in his prophetic career, the Christian king of Ethiopia gave his extended family refugee status there, taking care of them, after the Arab tribes hunting him and his family, sought to exterminate them all.

        This is why Ethiopia never fell to the Muslims – all the other African Christian kingdoms, like the Egyptians and the Nubians did fall to the Muslim conquerors and in the 16th century, a Muslim invader ignored this command of his own Prophet, conquering and slaughtering his way through Ethiopia, which is why today, around 40% of the country is Muslim and it no longer has sea borders, which the Muslims have all conquered, so as to isolate it from the rest of the Christian world!

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      • Spain fell to the Muslims; Ethiopia did not.

        Why?

        Because they all hid in the woodpiles?

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      • The White haplogroup managed to get its genes down into Nigeria — 15,000 ybp.

        When these ‘pop up’ and are expressed on the face (like my neighbor’s) one would swear that the gal was a White in black-face. The nose, bones — are all European. (R1b haplogroup) Even the hair is almost European.

        This gene is not that common in Nigeria. Duh!

        But when it’s expressed it’s striking — in the extreme.

        (These souls are NOT mulattos. They are as black as coal. Their R1b genes morph the nose and skull — not the skin.)

        Until DNA sequencing, such features had no explanation.

        As you can imagine, any gal that had these features would’ve been re-purposed as a house-slave in the Antebellum era.

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      • I read a report about the presence of European blood in African-Americans. Apparently there’s a sex-biased gene flow into African-Americans, but it doesn’t come from African men with European women (even though since 1960 they’ve been the more common coupling) but from European men into African women…isn’t that surprising? Apparently the same pattern exist in Brazil, Latin American and in pockets of West Africa as well. hmmm

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      • Spain fell to the Muslims; Ethiopia did not.

        That seems a fair statement. Certain Africans in the NE quarter seem to have a stabilized type with admirable qualities, including some good looks in the women, and bravery in the men.

        The hardcore US military guys on the ground, speak respectfully of Somalians. They are fighters. I hate the Somalis here, but you mind them.

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      • backchecking
        The White haplogroup managed to get its genes down into Nigeria — 15,000 ybp.
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        I regret to inform you but as Eliot would say: “you’re reading the book upside down. The genetic INFORMATION was always in the African just not expressed until he moved north; same with the Asian; same with blond hair…

        We didn’t get it from you, you got it from us.

        You’re welcome.

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      • Heh, heh… according to thwack’s Fractured Fairy Tales of biology, blonde hair, blue eyes, and all beautiful-things-not-negro were lurking in the latter all along, just waiting to jump out.

        And here I thought White Flight just pertained to real estate.

        LZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOLZOLZOLZOLOL

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    • Saw a pic of Beyonce when she was a sweet unspoiled teen,maybe 16,17..She look good!As she matured tho her features grew more thick and horsey.S he banged a very alpha buck in Jay Z but guess what?Her daughter is ugly as HE’LL.LOL

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      • Hey Greg,

        pale skin, blue eyes and blond hair is NOT new information. And even if it was, where would it come from?

        Here is a hint: why don’t ANY people have green hair?

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      • Note chapter 2 of Genesis… God saw there was no man to till the earth, so He created Adam… I’ve heard that the name stems from a word meaning something along the lines of “shows blood in the face” and “ruddy”.

        Later, Cain was afraid people would seek to kill him when he was banished, and he also eventually found himself a wife… so there must have been other people outside of the Garden of Eden and its environs.

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      • Yes, yes, NOW you’re whistlin Dixie. I knew it was only a matter of time before you deployed the “pre-adamic” blood in the face theory.

        Now, which version are you promoting?

        The:

        1. Nonwhite people are offspring of the Devil and Eve?

        2. Nonwhite people are the offspring of the Devil and one of the animals in the Garden of Eden?

        3. Nonwhite people are Satans attempt at creating people?

        There are so many; I need to know which version of the origin of nonwhite people you subscribe to?

        *Greg goes to heaven*

        (I know, I know, just work with me on this)

        Greg: “Im sorry, I didn’t get your name? I got yours, you’re Peter; but I di”

        Jesus: “My name is Jesus and yo ass ain’t talkin your way outta this shit”

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      • I have no theory on the origin of races…

        But I do know that, if God and the angels made Man in their image, Man can’t be both a Swede and a pygmy.

        lzozlzozlzozlzozlzolzozlozlozl

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  39. this is what happens when men think they can get and…keep…much younger women as long as they have social status/resources and money.

    they attract women who only want them for their social status/resources and money. duh.

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  40. The statistics for failed marriages are primarily due to the tendency for white women to leave non-white husbands. From the white male perspective marrying interracially doesn’t sway divorce statistics a whole lot. The exception to that is the white man/black woman pairing which divorces 44% LESS than a white/white pairing.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 7:09 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      Duh. Considering that mostly white trash women marry black men, it shouldn’t be surprising their marriages fall apart. I assume a lot of the white men that marry black women make a compromise based on the individual characteristics of the black woman, which makes the BW-WM marriages less likely to fail.

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  41. “This bracing acceptance of reality would save them time, energy, money, and heartache, and most crucially save them the accumulating bitterness that is inevitably projected onto future women who may be good for them.”

    this is important. i know the culture out there is different and girls aren’t what they used to be. they are more aggressive in their shit testing and behave in ways that i consider rude, distasteful and unacceptable. guys have to deal with that now and accept it to some extent but you still have to assess which girls are worth it and which ones aren’t.

    wasting your time on girls who are or indifferent or rude or just difficult in general prevents you from spending time on girls who are genuinely smitten with you and pleasant and kind.

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  42. Damn! And here I was going to guess… And They Lived Happily Ever After.

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  43. Did he think to check his silverware and medicine cabinet?

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  44. if his hands were a few inches higher I would have thought he was some stranger getting a handy behind her dress

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  45. wait..are we SURE that’s really a woman??

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  46. Gosh, I was hoping they’d be cast as Rose & Bernard replacements in the LOST TV series reboot.

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  47. I wonder if he even got laid or even a blow job before the “marriage”.

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  48. A jamaicain women offered to pay me $5000 to marry her so she could get a green card. I told her my mother would drop dead if she found out I married black girl even if it was a marriage of convenience.

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    • Yo dudes, be careful if you try this. You will need to actually live together and fuck if you wanna get away with it. Immigration will call you BOTH in without notice, separate you, and ask you questions about each others habits, likes, dislikes… in order to determine if its a fraudulent marriage.

      Its harder than you think.

      *Be advised*

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  49. I wonder if he got laid or even a blow job before he decided to “marry” the black cunt.

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  50. Don’t you mean 20 minutes AFTER her green card cleared?

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  51. on September 25, 2014 at 2:24 pm Frank Discussion

    She may be gone, but the gonorrhea and syphilis will linger on.

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  52. Get a bride from Jamaica, you’ll have your black fun
    But when you buy noodles she’ll go on the run
    Her boyfriend is waiting in London, you’ll see
    With welfare, malt liquor and looted TV

    Five thousand quid! All your money is burned
    Your black live-in hooker your wrinkles has spurned
    But never you mind, in Labour you trust
    Your votes make the Afros cry “England or bust!”

    “Come for the money, the riots and tea
    Stay for the old men who feed you for free”
    Who cares if the Brits of the future are suff’rin?
    As long as you’re stuffin your pay-to-play muffin

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  53. HOLD ON HE HAS A TATOO—ALPHA

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  54. Jes’ wundrin’… do all Scotsmen look like Pete Postlethwaite?

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  55. This guy should have used back page. If it flies, floats or fucks rent it.

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  56. John Boehner’s rasta son in law <> this story…..

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  57. My long post is still in moderation hell. Pretty soon someone will take a flamethrower to WordPress headquarters. All the programmers and managers will look up and shout, “Save us!” And I’ll whisper, “No.”

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  58. “In the end he sent her £700 for paperwork in Jamaica and even more money when she said it had been stolen.”

    Shit, even most betas can spot a red flag like this one.

    “Heartbroken Mr Gannon, who married Patrice in Jamaica early this year, believes his new wife fled to Bristol to meet a Jamaican boyfriend with whom she had organised the scheme.”

    She had male help, what a surprise. Chumpkins should just be glad he didn’t end up as an impromptu organ donor.

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  59. on September 25, 2014 at 4:46 pm betterthantheoriginalwally

    If he had had any shred of dignity left, he wouldn’t have allowed the world to rub the sorry story in his ugly face. Yes, let the world into my life so I can tell it how much of a sap I am.

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    • So the really funny part that I bet no one noticed. She says she kicked her bad boy habit in part by changing her Alpha Bad Boy’s name to “Danger” on her iPhone to remind her whenever he called.

      Check out the graphic of her iPhone though. “Danger” calls, she calls him back. Danger calls again, she calls him back. Clear as day.

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  60. It’s not easy being overweight and on benefits, says 25 stone mother-of-two who wants MORE money
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2768442/It-s-not-easy-overweight-benefits-says-25-stone-mother-two-wants-MORE-money-government-help-diet.html

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      • That daughter does not have a British father. More likely Romanian or similar trash.

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      • But you gotta hand it to whichever white dude knocked her up – that motherfucker’s erection must have been about 14 or 15 inches long. Either that, or else they used an extra long turkey baster. Sheesh.

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      • Need I point out the obvious “glass half full” in that pic?

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      • This is why the right dictatorship would only improve a people’s happiness, putting all the freaks and deviants in Improvement Camp, and all the intellectuals’ cries about “democracy” and “equality” would be silenced by the now much better off majority.

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      • > “glass half full” Dude, the kids are gorgeous, but dadgum, how can we keep them from growing up to be 350+ lbs like their Mom? Or keep them from being raped and murdered by some future Jamaican/Mohammedian boyfriend of their Mom?

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      • Actually, if the Mom lost about 225lbs, then she might be pretty cute herself. IF only!!!

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      • “That daughter does not have a British father. More likely Romanian or similar trash.”

        The daughter looks like a gypsy, but who would say she is not white. The mother looks like a Traveler / gypsy. The boy is near platinum blonde, but his face has some funny features.

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      • on September 25, 2014 at 7:34 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

        The father(s) must have rolled her in flour to find the wetspot.

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      • You guys are being too tough on the kids – they’re adorable! And the Mom might end up roughly an HB6 if she could just close her mouth and go about a year without eating.

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      • Judging by her kids, and the expression on her face, Moms here is possessed of genetic quality. And the orange hair, and the leveling appraising look. This is no stupid bitch.

        If your dick is longer than five, and there are some strong warm beers on the table, she can give you something: something that matters: good looking children!

        But she can’t stop eating. And that is no joke, it’s sad. This quality woman cannot manage.

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      • You guys are being too tough on the kids – they’re adorable!

        No. That girl is ugly. The boy too. The mother even without the fat would not be attractive. Probably why she got so fat in the first place.

        By the way, how can she afford tattoos all over her body, and piercings, if she “can only afford junk food”?

        Can only afford junk food. What the F. She could eat eggs, very cheap and full of nutrients. 78 calories per egg when boiled, 100 when fried, for practically no cost. She can also eat carrots and apples, very cheap. Voilà, healthy dinner.

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      • Arbiter
        That daughter does not have a British father. More likely Romanian or similar trash.
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        Really?

        Jeez, this racism shit is harder than I thought; hold on while I grab my rope

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      • Everything is hard for you, thwack, since you’re a socialist idiot. “Racism” that Romanian trash are trash? You fucking idiot know nothing about Europe, so you should just shut up. Then again, you know nothing about the U.S. either.

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      • Sorry dad; racism school is complicated, I feel like a failure, I think I might drop out

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    • Somebody reached past those big-ass buns to put buns in the oven, and that is all that matters in life.

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  61. And he went PUBLIC with his humiliation?

    Yiikes.

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  62. @ anon123,

    “You have no idea what youre talking about. White male-black female have the lowest divorce rate by far of any interracial coupling, for the obvious reasons.”

    this is true…CH was wrong on this point, well wrong as it relates to bw/wm:

    “There is, of course, the obvious. Mixed-race couples tend to fair poorer than same-race couples. And he looks forty years older than her.”

    “NH Black husband/White wife marriages were twice as likely to divorce as White/White couples, and NH Asian husband/ White wife couples were 59% more likely, according to Model II. Highlighting the role of gender in interracial dynamics, the reverse combinations actu- ally showed a lower or similar risk of divorce. White husband/NH Black wife couples were 44% less likely to divorce than White/White couples, and White husband/NH Asian wife couples were only 4% more likely to divorce by Year 10.”

    (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1111/j.1741-3729.2008.00491.x/asset/j.1741-3729.2008.00491.x.pdf?v=1&t=i0irrbls&s=0b7ddb806466d3fc7324a24706aec8e8fd2e9ab4)

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  63. EXCLUSIVE: Man charged with abduction of Hannah Graham was ‘expelled from Christian Liberty University after girl claimed he raped her on campus’
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2767276/Jesse-Matthew-charged-abduction-Hannah-Graham-expelled-Liberty-University-girl-claimed-raped-campus.html

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    • Jesse ‘LJ’ Matthew, 32, was expelled after girl brought complaint in 2002 ||| Defensive lineman Matthew went to Christian Liberty on a football scholarship ||| The captain of the team told MailOnline: ‘The allegation was that he forced ||| himself upon a girl at a party and had sex with her’ ||| Another said that he was ‘rough with her’ and that she went to hospital

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      • Don’t know if he is the perp but he sure is acting guilty. Fled Virginia in his sisters car, busted in a tent on the beach in Galveston Texas. Kinda dumb too, he never cut his dreads off or shaved.

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      • Her “friends” don’t seem to be saying much about her activities earlier in the evening?

        I suspect a lot of ass covering going on.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 6:58 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      Who cares?

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  64. Heartiste, have you been reading /int/ again?

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  65. Wow! He’s even stupider than me, and that’s saying something.

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  66. on September 25, 2014 at 10:22 pm Lionel Manboobs

    How long will the relationship last? How long is the incubation period for Ebola?

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    • How long is the incubation period for Ebola?
      ——————————————————————————–

      It depends on which version of the hemorrhagic fever the white man decides to unleash; which unfortunately includes the Marburgvirus first noticed and described during small epidemics in the German cities Marburg and Frankfurt and the Yugoslav capital Belgrade in the 1960s. Workers were accidentally exposed to tissues of infected grivets (Chlorocebus aethiops) at the city’s former main industrial plant, the Behringwerke, then part of Hoechst, and today of CSL Behring. During these outbreaks, 31 people became infected and seven of them died.

      This is not to be confused with the Reston virus (abbreviated RESTV) which was first described in 1990 as a new “strain” of Ebola virus (EBOV), a result of mutation from Ebola virus. It is the single member of the species Reston ebolavirus, which is included into the genus Ebolavirus, family Filoviridae, order Mononegavirales. Reston virus is named after Reston, Virginia, US, where the virus was first discovered.

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  67. I don’t know why my first reaction was to LOL

    Poor baby though. I don’t like people taking advantage of old people. 😦

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  68. “PA

    Need I point out the obvious “glass half full” in that pic?”

    No, I see it – her daughter is nearly old enough to be pimped out.

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  69. My prediction?

    Paaaaaiiiiiiin.

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  70. At first I thought that was one of the grounds crew having a go at the bride…

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  71. when will these men learn. It is better to rent than buy

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  72. ch, some enlightenment is needed here. You stated on this post that interracial couples are more likely to divorce, with special emphasis to wf-bm combinations, a fact I completely understand. Not only this, but have observed this occurrance take place often in real life. Point is, what are the underlying reasons that cause a white woman to stop desiring her former black beau given that blacks, according to what you once stated, are more prone to alpha-like behaviour than whites and men of east asia descent? At least the whole beta/omega male motif is more predominant among whites and east asians so there is something of a disconnect here.

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  73. I get a chill down my spine, because I can tell that Rush has either been following what we’re saying at the Chateau, or else at some other place where dudes just happen to be talking about EXACTLY what we’re talking about. It’s like the dude is sitting right behind me in the dadgum car – and I’m reading the Chateau – and he’s looking over my shoulder reading off of my laptop. Phreaking uncanny. Almost unnerving.

    Some Rush-vs.-Chateau transcripts passages, back-to-back, would sure come in handy right now; at the very least that would lend the above riff a helluva lot more serious consideration.

    If not, how could one not be skeptical?

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  74. After been in relationship with a guy for 3 years,he broke up with me, I did everything possible to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so much because of the love I have for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to someone online and she suggested that I should contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back but I am the type that don’t believed in spell, I had no choice than to try it, I meant a spell caster called Dr, Aduwawa and I email him, and he told me there was no problem that everything will be okay before three days, that my ex will return to me before three days, he cast the spell and surprisingly in the second day, it was around 4pm. My ex called me, I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that he was so sorry for everything that happened, that he wanted me to return to him, that he loves me so much. I was so happy and went to him, that was how we started living together happily again. Since then, I have made promise that anybody I know that have a relationship problem, I would be of help to such person by referring him or her to the only real and powerful spell caster who helped me with my own problem and who is different from all the fake ones out there. Anybody could need the help of the spell caster, his email: ([email protected] yahoo. com) or you can call him on +2348112019701, you can email him if you need his assistance in your relationship or anything. CAN NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT YOU SIR.

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  75. The bride has a very cute face but I prefer natural hair on women and don’t like bangs. She’d be cuter if she were rockin’ a fro or twist out, even dreadlocks.

    The reality is that May-December relationships very rarely work out long term, and when they do, May is usually gettin’ her June/July from a side piece. Generally December understands this. There’s an unspoken agreement in such scenarios.

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