The Femme Fatale Test: A Game Routine

Reader PA linked to an old video featuring four famous French singers embodying four distinctive styles of womanhood. All four are fantasizing about hitting on the same man who’s leaning against the bar. PA comments,

This is a delight in its own right. It’s also a Game tool: ask a girl which style, of the four shown here, is hers.

(Stay tuned for 3:34. Assuming it’s not electronically altered, dude has the deepest frog voice I’ve ever heard.)

The video is fun, and yes it does contain material that would serve very well reconstituted as a game routine. Which is what I’ve done.

Naturally, in most situations you’re not going to pull up a Youtube video for a girl you just met so you can ask her with which femme fatale she most identifies, (although there’s nothing wrong with doing that if you can manage it).

Do you remember the archetypical femmes fatales? The classics? The Chateau archives have posts about them and their particular gaming needs.

The golddigger.
The waif/neurotic.
The eternal ingenue.
The Amazonian alpha.

Asking a woman which female archetype she thinks she is will light up her eyes and deepen her conversational commitment. (Most girls like to think of themselves as ingenues. Be wary of the girl who proudly proclaims herself an amazonian alpha. Also be ready to bounce her home for the NSA bang.)

In the video, the singers represent, respectively (and commenters are free to argue with my categorizations):

Singer #1: The shy girl-next-door with a secret raging passion.
Singer #2: The fun-loving free spirit with a naughty side.
Singer #3: The elegant romantic who can throw a dinner party as well as she can flirt.
Singer #4: The take-charge seductress who might walk out with your wallet in the morning.

(Timeout to note how crazy beautiful and feminine Frenchwomen can be. I’d even consider monogamy with that first singer, and it takes a lot to inspire me to that sacrifice. Tragically, the times, and our women, have changed.)

If the girl you’re hitting on can watch this video with you, simply asking her which type she relates to will get the comfort stage ball rolling. Without the video, you’ll have to keep the above four (or eight) femmes fatales stored in memory for retrieval as part of the Femme Fatale Game Routine.

DEVIL’S VANGUARD: Women love to put men in boxes — you know, the frat bro, the nerd, the momma’s boy, the player — but there are types of women too. Femmes fatales. And men can tell a lot about a woman by her type. [pause for her curiosity to get the best of her. look away during this moment, so you don’t leave the impression that you’re anxiously anticipating her reply.]

LITTLE BO QUEEF: Really! So what type am I?

DEVIL’S VANGUARD: That depends. You see a man you like. You want to grab his attention. Do you look at him, then look away, blushing? Or do you bounce up to him and act flirty?

LITTLE BO QUEEF: Act flirty.

DEVIL’S VANGUARD: So you see yourself more as the free spirit than the shy girl-next-door. Ok, now if the choice is between being a free spirit, or sidling up in a sleek cocktail dress and remarking on his sense of style or whatever, which do you choose?

LITTLE BO QUEEF: Ooh, I like cocktail dresses. I’d do that.

DEVIL’S VANGUARD: Ok, so you’re more of an elegant romantic than a free spirit. Now you have to choose between being an elegant romantic, or wearing a sexy dress with a plunging neckline and whispering racy innuendo in his ear. The take-charge seductress.

LITTLE BO QUEEF: That’s too much for me. I’ll stick with being the sophisticated romantic in a cocktail dress.

DEVIL’S VANGUARD: Typical American woman. Great! Now I know what type you are. Ready?

LITTLE BO QUEEF: Yes!

DEVIL’S VANGUARD: The elegant romantic is passionate, but not crass. She’s no prude, she just likes a long build-up before going for the kill. She thinks herself sophisticated [ed: note that this is a challenge], and tries to dress stylishly [ed: another challenge]. She’s emotionally mature and has that natural sexiness which makes other women jealous, but not so jealous that they feel threatened. Men feel good about introducing you to business associates.

LITTLE BO QUEEF: Yay!

If words aren’t your thing, you can run an abbreviated version of the Femme Fatale Routine.

DEVIL’S REARGUARD: Shy girl-next-door, or naughty free spirit?

LITTLE HO’S SHEAF: Both!

DEVIL’S REARGUARD: That’ll do.

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PS I understand that the “style” PA refers to may be the man’s style, but I think the routine works better as a pickup tool if you ask the girl about female-specific styles.





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  1. […] The Femme Fatale Test: A Game Routine […]

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  2. PS I understand that the “style” PA refers to may be the man’s style, but I think the routine works better as a pickup tool if you ask the girl about female-specific styles.

    Yes, I did refer to female-specific styles.

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    • I have to agree with CH’s description of the styles. Making the names of them shorter I would say:

      Bookish girl
      Bouncy girl
      Gala woman
      Vamp

      I could translate what they say, but it’s easy to understand. In the beginning they go “But what’s this?” “The clientele suddenly improved”, etc. Before each song they say how they view him, with his clothes changing to reflect that. After each song they say well I may dream, must be reasonable, etc.

      For those interested, the song is a well-known French song for kids about plucking a lark. You change one body part for each time you sing it. “I will pluck your head”, “I will pluck your wing”, etc. Translation:

      http://www.frenchlearner.com/songs/alouette/

      Of course none of them actually go up to him. That would be très gauche. I think the video is much better this way, that they dream of doing it but won’t actually approach, as they know it’s the man’s job. In a video made today, of course, the women would all approach. And they would all be one type.

      Have you noticed something? In these old movies we will be easily forgiving of a woman who is older than the character would be today. Who has smaller breasts, not the most exciting appearance or clothes. We will forgive these things, because she will be above all a woman. You know she would be a delight to spend some time with. Yes, even if you wouldn’t sleep with her, you know the brief conversation at the bar, the café or by the flower stand on the cobble-stone street would be a breath of fresh air. A bit of a challenge. A teasing game. An understanding. A well-wishing from both sides.

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      • on October 16, 2014 at 3:20 pm When Negroids ATTACK!

        Have you noticed something? In these old movies we will be easily forgiving of a woman who is older than the character would be today. Who has smaller breasts, not the most exciting appearance or clothes. We will forgive these things, because she will be above all a woman. You know she would be a delight to spend some time with. Yes, even if you wouldn’t sleep with her, you know the brief conversation at the bar, the café or by the flower stand on the cobble-stone street would be a breath of fresh air. A bit of a challenge. A teasing game. An understanding. A well-wishing from both sides.

        “Glamour is when a man knows a woman is a woman.”
        –Gina Lollobrigida

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      • on October 17, 2014 at 6:29 pm Asian-Canadian Girl

        … the above categories are astute and concise, too. If they are re-imagined as glamour pornography or ‘erotic photography’ models in nice hotels which will not be identified by name or city (!)

        1. Bookish Girl: auburn-haired ‘Anna S’ (The Ukraine)

        2. Bouncy Girl: red-haired ‘Ola B’ (Poland?)

        3. Vamp: blonde-haired ‘Iveta/Sveta’ (Russia), photographed by Mikhail Paromov.

        4. Gala Woman: black-haired ‘Mireille A’ (Russia)

        5. Sporty Girl: Justine Jacobs (U.S.A.)

        It is said that the ideal woman has a face of an 11-years-old girl, body of a 15-years-old, and chronological age of 18+ to keep it legal. These women are now well-past age 18 (about 23+ now and nearing the ‘marriage-by-date’ wall). They run the gamut from breasts which are none (Anna S), small (Iveta/Sveta, Ola B), to large (Mireille A, Justine Jacobs) which fold over the chest wall and so fail the ‘pencil test’ (boob cannot hold it). Together with non-enveloping breasts, the best measure of youth is perhaps ‘puffy’ nipples (swollen areolae, also known as ‘mound-on-mound’). At last count, Anna S, Iveta/Sveta, and Ola B still have them. Yay!

        If the above categories are phrased in the article’s terms of French-language vocalists, respectively, we have:

        1. The Waif or Neurotic: Valérie Lagrange (1980s) when she is sad or depressed and talks morbidly of love, suffering, and death.

        2. The Eternal Ingenue: Elli & Jacno, Mino (both early 1980s)

        3. The Gold-Digger: Mitsou (1980s French-Canada), also Alizée, groan (!) (2000s).

        4. The Amazonian Alpha: Valérie Lagrange (1980s) does double-duty here when she is also enraged at the vicissitudes of life. The most powerful voice I have ever heard in a woman. The only equivalent I have heard in a man is the Thai rock musician, Pongsit Kamphee (late-1980s to now). Both their voices break when they ‘fly off’ in a rage and can modulate their voices to sound masculine and feminine at the same time like a counter-melody of gender-paired voices. Wow.

        5. Sporty Girl (Teen ‘Tom-Boy’ or Cute Lesbian): Other than by (unfortunate) personal experiences, my mind stops now when it comes to celebrities. Any help?

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      • on October 18, 2014 at 11:18 am Asian-Canadian Girl

        Oops! The above failed ‘pencil test’ reference was meant to say that the boob can grip a pencil under it and the chest wall. If the pencil falls down, she is a winner (and is likely under age 20). If the pencil holds, she is likely too old (most women of age 24+).

        Below are a few more examples of glamour photography or pornography for the categories (one man’s porn is another woman’s art):

        4. Gala Woman: blonde-haired Kisa (The Ukraine)

        5. Sporty Girl: Alison Angel (U.S.A.)

        Kisa passes the test with her no-boobs (yay!), but Alison fails with her large boobs. How sad that all girls become overly-endowed women in the end (!)

        p.s. One wonders if the categories of the author or Arbiter can be applied to the proportions of types of women across countries. Perhaps many urban women of the economically developing world, e.g. Southeast Asia, countries of the FSU (Former Soviet Union), may respectfully be termed as ‘would-be’ Gold Diggers of ‘Walking ABM/ATM Machines’ (Northest-Asian and Western men) who visit their countries with fat (phat) wallets and sex in their heads. Occasionally, the hunter becomes the hunted, and the predator becomes the prey. Such is the ethological process of natural selection at work.

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  3. I’m so glad I’m a gold digger. It’s so comforting to have such a reliable form of attraction.

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  4. Here is an interesting book I found;

    http://www.amazon.com/Feminism-Ugly-Truth-Mike-Buchanan/dp/0956641695

    I haven’t read it yet, but a quick perusal through google books suggests it might be interesting.

    http://books.google.com.au/books?id=k3OuYalUJ5cC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

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  5. The first singer is Nana Mouskouri. She is Greek.

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  6. on October 16, 2014 at 11:37 am Hymen Mingesky

    Zodiac game?

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  7. on October 16, 2014 at 12:22 pm Asian-Canadian Girl

    The second is Chantel Goya. Her music is classified in the children section of music shops (!) and is woefully under-appreciated by adults. My favourite album of hers is Dou Ni Dou Ni Day / Bravo Popeye (1986) RCA.

    p.s. The 3rd singer seems reminiscent of a late-period Judy Garland when she began to arch her eyebrows high and had cut her hair.

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    • The third girl is Mireille Mathieu. Her hairdo in the video is unusual. Her iconic look was normally the pageboy cut. The fourth one is Dalida.

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    • on October 16, 2014 at 2:38 pm braveagnosticg

      If I were a woman I think I would be a golddigger too ^^ btw CAG did you knew that 1 of the members of Korean 2NE1 want to make her American debut! please show support to CL ^^ their latest álbum is incredible ^^

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      • Your post, video and all, is a perfect example of how far downhill the West has gone since the time portrayed in the OP song.

        “They love me ’cause I’m real”. Typical of today’s childish leftist attitude, expressed in this video. No quality needed, no standards upheld, no accomplishment achieved – just pretending to be worthy of admiration for being “real” which means nothing since everyone is “real”. So in other words, “I haven’t done anything but the Left says I can still brag about me being me.” That’s the philosophical side of the leftist bribe to the voting cattle.

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      • on October 16, 2014 at 4:06 pm haunted trilobite

        Fridge magnets might be to blame for such entitlement

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      • Well, “braveagnosticg” here or narut00 as he also calls himself is an Asian faggot. We can’t expect him to have even a remote understanding of CH’s topic here. He is too dumb and self-absorbed for that – a homosexual. It’s funny that he is so self-absorbed that he posts a video like this and blabbers about the Korean girl bands he obsesses about (no doubt he pretends he is one of these girls) without understanding what a contrast it makes to CH’s post. As I said, a perfect example of the West’s downhill slide. Letting in self-absorbed perverts like this one.

        The upside is of course that no matter what he is doomed and he knows it. If Whites take back Western lands he is screwed, and not in the way he likes. If non-Whites swarm the West and become a majority the faggot bashing will be worse than ever. In Africa and places like Iraq they slit homo throat and the police approve. And that’s before ISIS. Next time you see narut00 here post about his obsessions out of synch with everyone else, think Swiss army knife.

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      • on October 18, 2014 at 2:14 pm Asian-Canadian Girl (Toronto, Ontario)

        re: Korean Girl-Band Music Video

        Huh? What the h(e)ll was that? A fractured, disintegrated, visual-obsessed dystopic future where nothing ‘real’ exists, and everything is a facsimile of the real thing? It is like the film Bladerunner (1982) by Ridley Scott. My worst fear is that we are living in some computer simulation or holographic world (like Plato’s allegory of the cave in 3D).

        Of the music video, I do not understand this ‘corruped’ language (!) It sounds like some mishmash of Turkish, Japanese, and some kind of American Negrospeak. And my daddy speaks Korean to me (!) If they speak like that now, I am surely ‘counterclock screwed’ as they will not understand my ‘quaint’ inland dialect (acquired from my beloved father from North Korea) when I visit next year for 4 months in South Korea. I am going to barricade myself in my apartment, hide out, and play with my acoustic guitar, toy metallophone, and toy grand piano. I am only going out for grocery, girl clothes, and electronic stuffs (e.g. Cowon MP3 players made in Korea, hi-fi stereo accessories, etc). I was hoping to also meet some good-looking skinny Asian dudes in the city of Seoul – target: 170cm (5’7″), 56kg (123 lbs) – but forget it now (!) Grr! Instead, I’ll use their faster broadband internet connection to download more nekky pictures of pretty Eastern Euro girls from the internets. The webs are so overpriced and slow in Canada.

        p.s. My ‘miscegenated’ beta elder half-brother (artificial satellite orbiting pouty Chinese women no better than 6-7 out of 10) and his soon-to-be ageing ‘Bouncy Girl’ Russian mother (not my mother) conspired to put a safe-search ‘child-lock’ software on my computer. Last week, I found out how to disable it (ha ha)! All I had to do was visit a French-Canadian (Québécois) style coffee shop near my home, and some highschool cracker-jacks (white boys) brought me coffee, cookies, and showed me how to do it. They also told me about the ‘onion router’ and how to ‘cloak’ oneself inside a program to hack into p0rn websites to download the perverted data streams of ‘0’s and ‘1’s faster into their computers with a simple program to do it 24/7 even whilst they are asleep. They say that they do it because they are poor and cannot afford to pay for ‘glamour-porn’ content. If the tax-man or piglets-with-uniforms (cops) sniff ’round, the program throws up a random foreign IP address to throw them off the trail. My God of Spaghetti, I thought I was a smart girl – but these crackers are 2.5 steps ahead of me in raw ‘number-crunching’ intelligence. Their play in chess and go (esp. ‘long-game’ strategy of losing battles to win the war) are also out of this world. First time I was ever defeated by men, and by white boys, no less (!) How they affirm the truth of the battle motto of Alfa Romeo: “Beauty is Not Enough. Beauty and Strength.” Life is short. Imma gonna’ live it. Forget LG’s motto: “Life’s Good”. It’s D*mn Good to be Alive. Life is Great!

        p.s. Groan! The music video has a fun electro-beat (and sly reference to Breakfast at Tiffany’s (1961) by Blake Edwards) but too much African-American ‘protest-masculinity’ rap spillover and borderline F-to-M gender-play. I’m a sporty tom-boy, but this is too much even for me. Eww. Even the sex-starved beta-boys at my chess club said that they would rather die as virgins than mate with these wanna-be female-to-male trannys. Verdict: braveagnosticg = 0. The world outside of South Korea = 1.

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    • the character Megan Draper’s look was modeled after Chantal Goya. WB Jessica Pare. Would toss her out of bed for singing Zou Bisou Bisou.

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  8. Nice George Elford reference.

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  9. That’s a cute idea. I am probably mostly 1 with a lot of 2. Who’s turned on by 4? Anyone? Just curious.

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    • on October 16, 2014 at 2:25 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

      Yes, the former Miss Egypt is the best of the lot here, imo, although she’s a bit old. She has that sexy, sultry cougar look.

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    • I like the Amazonian Alpha type, though that’s a pretty frilly example right there. They tend to be relatively interesting and smart and a challenge, and I am into statuesque, cool looking athletic women with witty tongues. Married a short example of this type. I’m a large, jocky, ex-military, asshole Sigma lawyer so this is probably an outlier example of assortative mating between people who rub a lot of other people the wrong way. YMMV.

      The stuff CH says about them in that older post strikes me as mostly correct, BTW. Can’t be a beta, show butthurt, or lose frame with them, or be operating without a plan, they hate it when you do that, and they also hate the shit out of stupid guys, Not that you really have to game them, just there’s a particular way to be that really, really works for them, and *strong* is the key factor.

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    • My experience is with a lot of #4’s whose public disguise is as a #1. Hence my public disguise is as Atticus Finch. I’m not sure what this suggests about Amy, but she’s previously hinted at working in Darkworld, so I assume she’s not just happy to see me, but carrying a cocked and locked Walther in that Chanel bag.

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      • Darkworld?

        I’m definitely not #4. She’s sexually aggressive, which I always thought was a turnoff to most men. That’s why I asked.

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      • She’s sexually aggressive, which I always thought was a turnoff to most men.

        …It’s complicated.

        From a woman we don’t want to be approached by, yes, a turnoff. And most of the time from a woman we don’t know and aren’t sure about. Is she serious? Is she just playing with you to drop you when you show interest? Because it is so unusual you have to wonder.

        But from a girl you know, or at least a girl you have seen the whole evening and you can be pretty sure she’s on the level. Then I’d enjoy it.

        But of course, women never have to go that far. They simply have to come up to you, smile and touch your arm. If the guy is really dense, she can give him a compliment out of the blue and hug him. Friendly hug – plausible deniability. If he doesn’t get it by then, he shouldn’t reproduce.

        I remember a girl in junior high…. There was a brief discussion during a group project, about what you would do if it was the last day before the earth was hit by a comet. She was standing up and leaned slightly toward me over a counter, saying in a low voice: “I would grab a handsome guy and have sex with him all night long.”

        Pretty hard to miss. That was my first girlfriend. But it still took me a month before I had the courage to make a move – I was waiting for the perfect moment. Ah, those young, silly years.

        Imagine if you could go back to your youth, but with all your memories intact. How you would rock in school.

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      • You’ve implied previously an intel or security career. Anyway, not important, apologies if I’m mistaken.

        I don’t find ‘sexually aggressive’ a turn-off, whatsoever. It’s contextual. I date a lot of alphas, they’re somewhere between a Hepburn or Emma Thompson in public. Privately, total #4’s. Ironically, the more alpha, the more they seek to be dominated, which is a truth I couldn’t figure out for a long while. In the end I concluded that they get tired of being in charge all day.

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  10. I was curious what kind of Game techniques the host would suggest, in a post-Ebola world. Full body condoms ? Bio-hazard love suits ??

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/10/09/ebola-virus-condoms-sexual-transmission/16960093/

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    • I may have come within about 10 feet of Ebola yesterday, owing to a couple of pathologically hideous bulldyes who have adopted a pet chimpanzee from West Africa.

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  11. Nashville Police Chief: Secret Service Tried to Fool Armed Homeowner with Fake Search Warrant
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216058/posts

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  12. on October 16, 2014 at 2:45 pm Max from Australia

    Sorry to go off topic so early in the thread – but here is my Beta of the Month submission……The fag who bought Ebola to the USA…. http://www.chacha.com/gallery/7234/15-terrifying-facts-about-the-ebola-virus/78013

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    • on October 16, 2014 at 6:49 pm Hammer of Love

      Not quite buddy. This guy was brought to the USA by the government, under controlled conditions.. The true culprit was a black African from Liberia, with no regard for other humans. Typical “mah dik ” behavior.

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      • An illegal alien. His brother and dad had ebola, his whole village had succumbed to it – and still the media NEVER mention that of course he knew he had ebola. They pretend that he noticed only when he came to the U.S.

        An illegal alien. Getting 500,000 dollars worth of medical care for free, paid by American taxpayers.

        Does anyone think he cares about Americans dying? In Africa everything is blamed on Whites. Their corruption, their mass rape, their poverty and failures – it’s because of White colonialism. (And still they never go back to the Stone Age life they had before the colonies. Were they richer or poorer then? They didn’t even have shoes or toothbrushes.) They love hearing stories about Whites suffering and dying, they laugh at it. Hell, they don’t care about other Black tribes on their own continent. I saw a documentary where Black men in South Africa were interviewed in the street, readily admitting that they had raped, and laughing about it. (Half of all women in South Africa have been raped.) Caring about people in a far-off land is a typical White trait, we are the only ones with such abstract concepts about altruism or anything else.

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      • White people man wanted “ebola man” here so they could study the virus.

        Once they understand ebola they will weaponize it in a lab.

        The white man is the 5th horseman.

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      • Thwack, you’re jumping on the bandwagon a bit late… all the bruthas I hang with be sayin’ ebola was invented in a white man’s lab from the git-go.

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  13. WEDDING NARCISSISM: On October 10, Miss Vinson, 29, may have had Ebola symptoms when she flew out of Dallas-Fort Worth Airport on Frontier Airlines Flight 1142 to Cleveland to plan her upcoming wedding, a health official said today.

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    • on October 16, 2014 at 8:07 pm Carlos Danger

      She’s a black girl. They don’t get many opportunities to get married so she should be excused for not wanting to drop the ball over a silly epidemic.

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    • Shane, how dare you post anything critical of the noble black Miss Vinson? I mean, sure, she had been treating an Ebola patient that had died. Sure, one of her fellow nurses had been infected with Ebola. Sure, she was running a fever and (I believe) was under at least self-monitoring.

      So, given all of that, why in the world WOULDN’T she have shamelessly gotten onto a plane and put untold numbers of people at risk? She had things to do! After all, she called. Nobody told her not to fly!

      Welcome to Third World America, new and unimproved. It’s easy to focus on the big and obvious areas of dysfunction in the modern cesspool, but what really distinguishes a first world, civilized population from a multiracial cesspool are the billions of little micro-decisions that people make every day. Whether to be honest or dishonest in the small things. Whether to be rude or to be polite. Whether to respect the personal space of others, or violate that space. And about a zillion other things.

      But what it comes down to is this: exercising self-restraint where appropriate, even if nobody tells you to. Even if nobody is watching. Doing the right thing, even if you know you won’t get caught doing the wrong thing.

      That is going, going, gone. Ain’t diversity grand? I’m shocked, shocked that Miss Vinson did what she did.

      Separation is the only solution.

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      • > “Welcome to Third World America, new and unimproved.” It is very, very odd that the first two nurses to catch it were a Vietnamese and a Negress. Obviously it could just be a coincidence, and yet…

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      • JEW Weinstein: “Party in Maryland!”

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      • Props to Trainspotter.

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      • Ebola fears have forced two male strippers to adopt a hands-off policy for the next 21 days after sitting just three feet from Amber Vinson as she flew Frontier Airlines from Cleveland to Dallas on Monday night. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216297/posts

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      • Shane: “Ebola fears have forced two male strippers to adopt a hands-off policy for the next 21 days after sitting just three feet from Amber Vinson…”

        Yeah, apparently those guys are in quarantine now, but it’s a small price to pay. She had things to do! That’s just how she rolls.

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      • You guys are really reaching on this one.

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      • {Oscar-Mayer-Wiener-Academy-induced Hyper-Narcissism} + {Low-Future-Orientation Inability-to-Defer-Gratification} == {TOXIC BREW!!!!!}

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      • really?

        you guys have sunk so low as to start attacking nurses who care for sick people because they get sick?

        You must be a white person.

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      • Thwack, are we supposed to applaud (or at least place above criticism) someone who selfishly and recklessly endangered untold lives, simply because she is a nurse? If so, what other professions get free passes to spread a highly contagious and deadly disease?

        Her plane trip had nothing to do with nursing, from what has been reported. It was purely personal. If anything, someone in her situation should be held to a higher standard.

        Let’s treat the questions above as rhetorical, but I have one question that I’d like an honest answer to. If you, thwack, were in the situation that she was in – you were a trained nurse, you treated an ebola patient that had recently died, one of your fellow nurses on the team had just been diagnosed with ebola, and you are running a fever – would you get on the plane to make a purely personal trip at that point? Even if some bureaucrat clown you talked to by phone at the CDC said it was O.K.? Honestly, given that set of facts, would you get on that plane?

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      • Thwack thinks we wouldn’t be saying the same things about a white nurse who did the same thing…

        He thinks we whites are just like negroes… or Jews…

        You know, the Right Or Wrong, We First, Always ilk.

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      • Trainspotter
        Thwack, are we supposed to applaud (or at least place above criticism) someone who selfishly and recklessly endangered untold lives, simply because she is a nurse?
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        Nurses do NOT make up their own rules and regs for infectious disease control; its a room full of white people who make those policies. If the hospital admins didn’t require her to be quarantined then its their fault she was allowed to leave.

        They probably lied to her and told her all the white man technology would protect her.

        Looks like the jokes on you.

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      • you guys have sunk so low as to start attacking nurses who care for sick people because they get sick?

        Ridiculous low-IQ comment. The point was that she knew perfectly well she was sick, she had a fever that went up but stayed just a degree or two below the limit where the airline would keep her from flying. So since she was juust below she went flying. AFTER TREATING AN EBOLA PATIENT. If she isn’t too dumb – maybe she got into nursing school because of anti-White quotas – she should be able to figure out what it means when you have a high fever right after treating an ebola patient for days. She is a fucking nurse.

        But as long as it’s Blacks you’ll make up any excuse.

        Typical troll.

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      • If the hospital admins didn’t require her to be quarantined then its their fault she was allowed to leave.

        Seriously, are you a fucking idiot? They didn’t quarantine the staff because they didn’t show symptoms. They told the staff to COME BACK FOR QUARANTINE if they showed symptoms. She showed symptoms. She didn’t come back. Instead she went onboard a plane to kill other people with her African disease.

        Looks like the jokes on you.

        You’re happy to hear of Americans being exposed to ebola and possibly dying as long as they aren’t Black? You really are a sick freak.

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      • Arbiter
        The point was that she knew perfectly well she was sick, she had a fever that went up but stayed just a degree or two below the limit where the airline would keep her from flying.
        ——————————————————————————————

        EXCUSE ME, but she is a NURSE, she’s around SICK PEOPLE all the time. a slight fever or headache from time to time is part of the job; you don’t freak over every little ache and pain like a white person…

        Jeez, the lengths you guys will go to try and blame nonwhite people for anything is amazing.

        We blew up two space shuttles too right?

        Or was that white peoples fault?

        Oh it was ni66ers?

        Well thanks, thats exactly what I thought.

        Now, what about the Titanic?

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      • thwack: “EXCUSE ME, but she is a NURSE, she’s around SICK PEOPLE all the time. a slight fever or headache from time to time is part of the job; you don’t freak over every little ache and pain like a white person…”

        Lawd have mercy. Thwack, does she treat ebola patients “all the time?” Does a fellow nurse on her team get diagnosed with ebola “all the time?”

        Blowing off reality and proper context as you do, and pretending that this is just another day in flu season, is absurd. The way you think, it is no wonder that blacks and browns create and spread such dysfunction. Whites need to separate from that dysfunction, as our ways of living and thinking are utterly alien to one another, and incompatible. In a normal, sane society this wouldn’t even be a matter of debate. Our ancestors understood all of this centuries ago.

        thwack: “Jeez, the lengths you guys will go to try and blame nonwhite people for anything is amazing.”

        Not really. There are plenty of white idiots, and their fellow whites condemn them when they act like idiots.

        But back to ebola and pandemics in general, there is no doubt that just as blacks are more likely to behave in criminal and other destructive ways, they are also more likely than whites to lack the self-restraint necessary to prevent the spread of contagion. They lack the ability to make the millions of proper micro-decisions in everyday life that add up to the difference between a healthy society and a sewer. Again and again, in all aspects of life, we see that blacks and browns lack basic impulse control.

        And frankly, they seem to lack an internal moral compass. Under the set of facts that we have, there is no way that I would have gotten on that plane, even if some bureaucrat clown from the CDC told me that I could. If I was worried enough to call him multiple times, I would know in my gut that getting on that plane was the wrong thing to do. (what about you? telling that you still haven’t answered my question about whether you would have gotten on the plane)

        So far we have ebola imported into the country by a black African, allowed by a black president that refuses to implement a perfectly reasonable travel ban, and recklessly spread (potentially) by a black nurse. I’m shocked. So very, very shocked. Let the good times roll.

        The diverse United States is a clown show living on borrowed time.

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      • As an aside, it has been reported that Vinson called the CDC multiple times for getting onto the plane. If this is true, it seems rather odd. Why would she have done that, multiple times? Here’s my guess, based on years of dealing with both blacks and bureaucrat clowns (of whatever race, though blacks are almost always worse):

        I’m betting that Vinson knew perfectly well that she shouldn’t have gotten on the plane. She would have had to be an utter idiot not to know, and jokes about black intelligence aside, I’m doubting she is that dumb. But when faced with the choice of doing the right thing, versus looking for a plausible excuse to do the wrong thing, she calls. She’s just looking to CYA. I’ll bet the bureaucrat clown who picked up the phone initially hedged his bets. After all, he’s playing his own game of CYA. It’s the bureaucrat way to try to fit someone into a precise box. If he can’t do that, which he often can’t, he’ll be vague and noncommittal, so as to avoid responsibility. That’s why so many people who call a government office realize, after hanging up the phone, that they haven’t been helped at all.

        So he didn’t tell her not to fly, because she didn’t fall into a precise box allowing him to say that, but he probably didn’t give her a full go ahead either. I’m betting he kept it vague. Maybe he hinted that she shouldn’t fly, but it was up to her.

        So she keeps calling until she gets the answer that she wants. We all know that if you call a bureaucracy ten times, you’ll probably get ten different answers. She went for the one she wanted, instead of doing the right thing by her own volition.

        That’s my guess. In any event, let’s hope nobody dies as a result of it.

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  14. Girls do love to ask “How do you see me?”

    Just had this exchange with the 23 year old I’ve been banging.

    I said “I see you as a woman…”

    Of course she keeps demanding more. “Are you fishing for compliments?”

    But after a few back and forths, I’ve found that if the girl is sincere then it’s ok to offer her something. In my case I said “I think we see the world in similar ways…”

    That only peaked her curiousity further and lead to more questions.

    From the perspective of being more intuitive about women. Be very cautious about Cluster B behaviours in women. Anything related to pushing for intimacy fast, becoming super sexual fast, push-pull, bursts of anger, shit like “so and so is chasing after me…” Or girls who try to inspire your white-knighting through helplessness…if you don’t know what to look for it’s easy to get sucked into their drama. My crazy ex went from being the sweetest, most thoughtful girl in the world to texting me out of the blue with: “I’m in trouble…” then there’d be some bullshit drama. The more I downplayed it, the more she would escalate it. When I would display some type of empathy…it disappeared. Watch for this type of thing.

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    • on October 16, 2014 at 8:12 pm Carlos Danger

      This is a pet peeve of mine and I seldom see it used correctly anymore. it’s piqued my curiosity from the French word Piquer which means to prick.

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    • > “Cluster B behaviours in women”

      Crazy in Bed Crazy in the Head

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      • The whole Sex and the City phenomenon ushered in that idea of “Which one are you?”

        I’ve found a great post on Krauser’s site and have used it with huge success repeatedly. It’s a sexual Rorschach test.

        Here are a few great photo blogs: http://ilovepinups.tumblr.com/
        http://sexsavestheday.tumblr.com/archive
        http://eroticimage.tumblr.com/

        And more. I ask “Do you like photography?” blah blah blah. I’ve got an interesting photo blog…or “maybe you’re too innocent”….

        they ask to see it. I send them one of the links and say “Send me your top 3 photos and why and I’ll send mine”.

        The last girl I played this game with sent me 10 photos back in rapid succession. interesting window on her id.

        Another girl I’m banging this was how we text when we haven’t seen each other for a few weeks… Honestly, I rarely have much to text about so these ping backs are great ways to engage.

        If the girl is all “That’s gross…” you can agree and amplify or next.

        But it’s a great way to keep things sexual in text game. Thanks Krauser.

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  15. Seventies French pop has lots of dreamy songs to check out. If you play guitar, learn Francis Lai’s “Bilitis.” Simple, seductive melody.

    For the girls in the Alouette video, Mireille Mathieu (girl no. 3) does a nice duet with Nana Mouskouri (girl no. 1) “La paloma adieu.” Her best song arguably is “On ne vit pas…”

    Around Christmas, Mireille’s “Milles Columbus” is the testament to the beauty of french culture.

    Dalida (Girl no. 4) is the only one of the group no longer with us. She committed suicide shortly after the above video was made. More than one man associated with her had committed suicide. Also, according to Wiki she is the sixth-most popular all time entertainer in the world.

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    • Francoise Hardy is also easy on the ears.

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      • on October 17, 2014 at 9:46 am Asian-Canadian Girl

        Yes! Especially her ‘lighter’ frivolous stuff. More than a little of Françoise Hardy’s 1960s music, though, seem melancholy. Even her ‘happy’ songs sometimes have a sadness to them (or perhaps that is ‘projecting’ in my part). It is somehow bittersweet that one can be made depressed and hopeful by music at the same time. By contrast, mildy tomboy-ish Chantal Goya, like ‘girly girl’ vocalists such as France Gall (1960s), Patricia Lavila (mid-1970s), Lio (early-mid 1980s), and Emmanuelle (mid-late 1980s) are just innocent, playful, and fun. The closest I can think of in English music would be Altered Images (early 1980s) and, groan (!), Aqua (2000s).

        p.s. To get the most out of music with a student or slave-worker budget, I recommend a toy external DA converter (e.g. Fiio D03K which is about 25 USD) which connects to the headphone at one end and connects to the other end with the USB to the computer. When copying CDs, I use uncompressed WAV (which is the same format as the digital PCM in CDs). In playback, I never touch the media player equaliser because this destroys the music. My favourite headphone is my white Teac CT-H02 (same as Tascam TH-02, about 20 USD) which has a huge and bright soundstage like a string of Christmas lights inside my head. They also have it in black colour for men. I prefer it over my excessively treble harsh Grado SR-225i headphone (about 200 USD, made in U.S.A.). Isn’t music great!

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      • Wow. From whence all this knowledge of French music? De Quebec, peut-être?

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    • I like her too. For something darker (look up the lyrics), check out Marie Laforet “Veins, veins”

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    • Le Vent Nous Portera (The Wind Will Carry Us)

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  16. Fred Reed on the Hivemind drive-by of AmRen:

    http://www.fredoneverything.net/Sussman.shtml

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    • I hope Jared Taylor sues the shit out of Sussman and Harvard Uni Press.

      [CH: I hope so too. Even if he doesn’t “win”, his suit and media coverage of it would shine a cleansing light on the malignancy known as the Hivemind.]

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    • Thanks for sharing this. Most enlightening.

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  17. Re: Ebola
    No hospital in the US, as of today, will require that employees treat an Ebola case – as a condition of continued employment.
    The reason that this is true will tell you everything you need to know about this epidemic.

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  18. I didn’t see the fifth femme fatale: the ex-Mrs.!

    Donate with Kate to support men and families.

    http://www.the-spearhead.com/2014/10/16/life-changes/

    (h: it would be really great to see you put your name behind taking care of the Manosphere’s own)

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    • Maybe have one post where you ask everyone who comments to donate a dollar. Everyone has at least one dollar to spare. With how popular this blog is, you could easily rack up $500 dollars to give the recipient. We’ll make a party out of it and everybody wins. Free For All Friday! 🙂

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      • That is a good idea in theory, Kate. Very good idea, who would have the money?
        But if we can not comment with out donation of one dollar – some of us do not have credit/bank card. 😦 . So how can donations be made with out one?

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      • I mean – who would the money go to? Who is the recipient?

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      • If you can’t donate money, you find some other way of contributing. Post music, good wishes, serve the drinks, offer food, be creative, whatever. We’ll put Amy and femx in the Kissing Booth! The money will be donated through this page’s donate button and then the host makes the transfer to the recipient, in this case, Bill Price.

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  19. FR for yareally and his disciples, or anybody else with useful input.

    Day 2 with Greek 6.5 (day 1 was semi-cold approach, 6 hours of booze-fueled flirty banter and kino, followed by make out on street and in cab. We shared a cab back as we live nearby, but she wouldn’t come back to my place).

    Arrived at wine bar a few min late (not deliberately), she was standing waiting, grabbed her head and kissed her on the lips. Since we had made out before, figured I could risk it. She was a bit shocked, I wanted to be first to pull back but she pulled back after ~1s, laughed and said “what are you doing?”. I said with a smile “that’s how I say hello to everybody”, but I could feel myself blushing. On balance it was an ok opener and didn’t do any harm, but nothing amazing.

    We got wine and sat outside. Convo was reasonably fun for 1.5 hours, mix of joking around and getting-to-know-you chit chat. A couple of extracts:

    At one point we were both playfully refusing to be the first one to reveal our age.
    Her: Tell me your age, I thought British guys were real gentlemen
    Me (laughing/smirking, shaking head): no, not really
    Her (seeming genuinely confused): no? who is that then?
    Me: well maybe some of us are, but not this one
    Her: oooh ok
    Me: you should tell me your age, I thought Greek girls were more submissive
    Her (shocked/laughing): submissive?! How many Greek girls do you know?!
    Me: listed a few made-up names similar to her name
    Her: come on, tell me your age
    Me: why don’t you go and get us another glass of wine?
    Her: me go and get it on my own? When you got us wine, I came with you!
    Me: Haha you didn’t have to
    Her: yes, you said “come on, let’s get some wine”
    Me: is that how it works, I tell you something and you do it?
    Her: um, yeah
    Me: well now I’m telling you to go and get us some wine!
    Her: (laughs)

    After discussing what she’d learnt by stalking me on the internet, she asked me to guess something about her, so I looked her up and down and said “you prefer to give oral sex rather than receiving it”. This got a big laugh and she was shocked again, she asked “do you like to take risks and see how people react?”

    After wine bar we walked arm in arm and I led her to my place (5min walk), but she wouldn’t come in. As we entered my street she asked “where are we going?”, I said jokily “what a coincidence, this is my street” (maybe drawing too much attention to it here). We kissed on the street for a few mins, got moderately heated when I backed her against the wall, then she said “ok”, signalling to stop. Tried to get her in a couple of times, e.g. said we would go to another bar and I should just quickly go inside for cigarettes, she said “do you really have cigarettes?”, I laughed and said “no, it’s just an excuse to get you to come inside” (again, maybe too explicit). Another attempt, she still resisted, I said “why not?”
    Her: because I don’t know you that well
    me: we’re getting to know each other
    Her: yes, *outside* your place
    me: do you think I would think less of you if you did?
    Her: no, I don’t care about that
    me: good
    *more making out, got heavier*

    After that she still wouldn’t come inside, so I walked her back to the metro.

    Don’t know what I could’ve done much better here. Convo flowed decently well, although not sparkling, and I sexualised the conversation from time to time (which spiked her emotions) while going back to normal topics, and I tried several times to get her in the door, and I don’t think I was needy. Had good eye contact and tried to speak slowly and deliberately rather than quickly/nervously (not sure how well I did this as it’s easy to forget about it when you’re actually there), while keeping a fun positive vibe. She was laughing and smiling a lot, playing along with my games and playing some of her own, and seemed quite in to the makeout. Could perhaps have done more push-pull, don’t think I really did that or really know how, and more challenging of her, qualifying her to me. Her age is probably a problem (33) as she will most likely be looking to settle down.

    Didn’t text or contact her afterwards, my instinct is not to reward her with too much attention if she’s not willing to go beyond a makeout. Probably we’ll see each other again after a week or so. She wants me to come to a concert with her in a few weeks, but she’s getting a whole group together via a website (so could be friends of hers or strangers looking to meet new people), so I probably won’t go as a) it would be letting her lead and b) there would be no way to monopolise her attention as she’s the organiser and would have to speak to everyone. Probably will only go if we have sex a few times before then.

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    • Sorry, I think this will be a confusing read, I have like 4 things going on at once over here so all my thoughts are disjointed and I might be repeating myself or over-explaining (more than I usually do lol):

      “grabbed her head and kissed her on the lips. Since we had made out before, figured I could risk it.”

      A lot of guys make this mistake. When you meet up with her again, you aren’t “resuming” where you were when you last saw her. She’s gone through a million emotional state changes and thought loops since then and is no longer in the same state she was that first time you met…ESPECIALLY if she was drunk at the time…ESPECIALLY if you get CLOSE to sex but don’t quite bang, where she wants to then make a purposeful effort to show you that she isn’t a slut by rejecting your advances when you meet up again.

      I’ve mentioned this before but it’s basically if you can’t see a guaranteed path to the finish line then don’t escalate past a simple romantic light kiss that you end first, to leave her wanting closure/more. She’ll be more down to bang the next time you meet up (and less likely to flake). Whereas if you escalate past that point but something happens and you aren’t able to get all the way to sex, now you have a minefield of Anti-Slut Defense to work through and a higher risk of her flaking on meeting up again.

      So like sometimes the obstacles to the finish line are obvious, like she mentions having to be up for work at 5am the next day or having to babysit her drunk friend tonight, so I know it’s probably not going to happen that night and will keep things to just a romantic kiss. But sometimes it looks like a clear path so you cross that kiss point and then out of nowhere a cockblocking friend or AMOG or some event happens that blocks the path to the finish line…in-field experience helps teach you how to overcome those surprise obstacles to still pull it off, but if those obstacles trip you up then you’ll get this ASD situation.

      So basically view each date as having to start over from scratch and have to re-seduce her. This is another reason why you want to have a solid initial date plan so you can ideally close on that first date…otherwise it can be so much extra work lol

      If you’ve banged her, then ya you can do that and she’ll love it. Or if you ran sick text game right before meeting up and got her in a super attracted turned on state where she’s dying for you to kiss her, then ya you can do that. But if you’re just meeting up like “hey, I’ll be a few min late” “okay see you soon :)” and shit, combined with not getting all the way to sex the last time, it’s better to play it cool and kiss her later on in the date.

      She LIKES you, obviously, since she’s made out with you before and met up with you again…but her ASD wants to make sure you don’t think she’s easy or a slut or that you can just waltz up and escalate on her.

      You’re playing a risky game with some of the stuff you say but since she didn’t run away or anything I’m going to assume you’re charming enough in person to pull it off, nothing stands out as blatantly a problem with how you ran things…maybe a bit too sexual since her problem was not wanting to seem easy (again going back to crossing too far without making it to the finish line on the first date)

      “Her age is probably a problem (33) as she will most likely be looking to settle down.”

      …well shit, there’s your problem lol Combine that with her internet stalking you and she may actually be viewing you as potential Provider material and be trying to put you in a dating/boyfriend frame where she won’t put out right away and will make you invest.

      It’s possible to turn it around, but she has a lot riding on her successfully pulling this off (potential future with kids and a house and shit) so it might be more trouble to you than it’s worth.

      “She wants me to come to a concert with her in a few weeks, but she’s getting a whole group together via a website (so could be friends of hers or strangers looking to meet new people), so I probably won’t go as a) it would be letting her lead and b) there would be no way to monopolise her attention as she’s the organiser and would have to speak to everyone. Probably will only go if we have sex a few times before then.”

      Yup. Perfect mindset on your part. She’s definitely setting you up as Provider material to go do stuff together that isn’t sex. Her logic is “if I have sex he’ll be done with me, but if we do a bunch of date stuff and get to know eachother I’ll win him over and he’ll want to commit to me and date me and then I’ll reward him with sex”. But that’s her getting what she wants out of the relationship without you getting what you want lol

      Also you are dead-on that she’ll spend half the event ignoring you and being swarmed with attention. When a girl invites you to something, especially when you haven’t had sex yet, she’ll NEVER invite you to like, a quite one on one isolated booth in a bar beside your apartment lol She’ll always pick somewhere where she has high value and probably some orbiter dudes chasing her for you to compete with and it’ll be in some difficult-to-pull scenario where you can’t just whisk her away to bang or she’ll be too tired after to bang etc.

      You don’t have to be a dick about it (because that’ll sound like you’re butthurt that she didn’t put out), you can just be like “can’t make it, got to work that night” or something. But definitely don’t go. Once you guys are fucking, THEN you can go to events like that as a reward to her. So it’s basically a frame flip…instead of you going to those events to get the reward of sex from her, she has to have sex with you to get the reward of you going to those events. It’s a small subtle difference but it sets the tone of the relationship and your value.

      “Didn’t text or contact her afterwards, my instinct is not to reward her with too much attention if she’s not willing to go beyond a makeout.”

      Yup, this is the move. You don’t care, you have other girls on the go. She can text you when she decides to smarten up. She knows what she’s doing. She’s also 33, there’s a pretty good chance she’ll cave first if she doesn’t have other prospects lol

      The way I would play this is a long-term plan. No more initiating text conversations with her. She can text you and you respond whenever (I like to mix it up, when she initiates sometimes I’ll respond right away sometimes I’ll let it go for a bit or ignore it completely if it’s a fri/sat night, etc.). You don’t need to initialize conversations with her…if she wants your attention she can have sex with you lol

      She’ll probably test you by also no initializing to see if your frame will crack and you’ll text her (esp if you get drunk/horny on the weekend). So it’d probably be 1-2 weeks of silence between both of you…but then usually they re-initiate by playing the shaming angle to put you on the defensive. So they’ll re-initiate with some idle chat but then call you out flat out “so is this because I didn’t sleep with you?” (if she finds some other guy she probably won’t text at all, but again at 33 she probably doesn’t have a lot of prospects)

      If she uses that attack on you, the counter for it is to respond completely non-butthurt but also not acknowledge the sex stuff. Just lol and be like “lol what? No I don’t play games. You’re fun, I like our chemistry, I just have a lot going on right now.” and act like nothing happened and like you didn’t just ignore eachother for 2 weeks…but stick to not initiating texts.

      So the mindset is “if you want to talk to me, go ahead and text me and I’ll respond and there’s no hard feelings about the sex or anything…but if you don’t text me, I won’t text you.” Like 100% passive on your end.

      Also I wouldn’t initiate any meetups. I would just chat and flirt over text until she initiates a meeup, and then turn it down but after THAT initiate a meetup. So it’s like once she shows that she’s willing to chase you, you turn it down because it’ll either be to an event that’s on her terms like I said earlier or it’ll be an invite she has no intention of keeping she just want to see if you’ll bite and then she’ll flake on it…but you know she’s hooked far enough at that point that a few days or a week later you can initiate a meetup on your terms (just do the same shit you did before, meet up for a drink near your place, maybe at a different venue).

      The frustration for her comes from her knowing that you don’t care about her enough to chase her, but that you DO like her to SOME extent because you respond to her texts and aren’t butthurt sounding. Generally she’ll instinctively want to get you to chase her so she’ll dangle more and more in front of you trying to get you to take the bait…until what she’s dangling in front of you is another meetup…but you turn that down and she’s like “wtf!! not even THAT got him to chase??” So when you finally invite her out again, she’s like “ok I’ll show him, I’m going to dress so sexy that he finally chases me!!” which is retarded chick logic but it benefits you because now she’s coming into the date attempting to seduce you to the point where you’ll chase her, so all you do is play a little hard to get on the date till she’s throwing herself at you and then you just let her win you over and escalate hard and fast and she’s ended up turning herself on and investing so much herself that she ends up going along with it.

      So to summarize:

      – Expect this plan to take 2-6 weeks to pull off, possibly 8 weeks, so mentally prepare yourself for weeks of total silence between you two (go get other girls you can text to avoid wanting to text her every few days) and mentally prepare yourself for not seeing her or getting to stick your dick in her for a solid 4+ weeks. Like the mental part of this is big and can sabotage you, so just in your head picture placing her on a slow track way off in the distance or whatever.

      – No initiating conversations (txt, email, phone calls, nothing)

      – Reply like everything is normal when she initiates, flirt a bit, ignore some texts, leave conversations mid-text, etc.

      – No initiating meetups

      – Turn down all the invites she extends until she extends a legit date invite (one on one you and her, none of this internet website group meetup shit). She may start by inviting you to group event stuff, but turn those down

      – Once she finally invites you to a one on one date, turn it down

      – A week later invite her out on a one on one date on your terms. Odds are extremely high she’ll accept at this point

      – No kiss when you first see her, play it a bit aloof like you have other shit going on, and then let her seduce you over drinks and when she’s giving you heavy flirting, turn it on and pounce and escalate. At this point you shouldn’t get ASD, because now she’s seen that if she doesn’t lock you down you won’t chase her and none of her other shit to lock you down worked so sex is the only option left for her

      This sounds like a lot of work but objectively it’s pretty passive and non-time-consuming. You’re basically treating her like an ugly female friend or an annoying relative where you’ll answer their texts here and there but you’re not going to go out of your way to set up a meetup with them lol

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      • Awesome, thanks a lot dude! As it turned out, she texted me a few days later asking to meet up, which I took as a big IOI. I couldn’t do the first night she suggested, she accepted my counter-proposal (another good sign), we met up around midnight after I’d seen my other friends, and banged a few hours later. She’s quite sexually aggressive and likes it rough. So apparently she just needed there to have been 3 dates or something to settle her ASD.

        “A lot of guys make this mistake. When you meet up with her again, you aren’t “resuming” where you were when you last saw her. She’s gone through a million emotional state changes and thought loops since then and is no longer in the same state she was that first time you met”

        Yeah, this I know, I was doing it in an attempt to be a little “outrageous”/bold, to set a sexual tone, and planning to immediately go back to acting normal and talking about normal topics. I’m sure I’ve seen you or another PUA talking about something like this. Anyway I didn’t really pull it off but didn’t scare her away either so it’s good to have tried it.

        “I’ve mentioned this before but it’s basically if you can’t see a guaranteed path to the finish line then don’t escalate past a simple romantic light kiss that you end first, to leave her wanting closure/more.”

        Yeah I’ve heard this from you and others, my problem at the moment is knowing when the guaranteed path is there: it’s supposedly important to be bold and to lead the interaction and keep escalating, so for me that means as long as she’s into me and is kissing, stroking etc then I’m gonna try and lead her back to my place, assuming the sale since she’s not necessarily gonna telegraph that she’s DTF with a flashing neon sign. But then I get a no at the front door and then we’re in a frame where I’m chasing her and I’ve got ASD to worry about. I could try not making out with them at all, but then I wouldn’t be sure how to sufficiently sexualise the interaction or congruently try to get them in the door. I’m not good at using “innocent” excuses like coming in to see films/music etc, I should maybe work on that.

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      • @Truman
        “As it turned out, she texted me a few days later asking to meet up, which I took as a big IOI. I couldn’t do the first night she suggested, she accepted my counter-proposal (another good sign), we met up around midnight after I’d seen my other friends, and banged a few hours later”

        lol. You basically instinctively did what I explained, it just happened a lot faster than I figured, but the keys are there:

        She initiated texts, and initiated a one-on-one meetup (so you slid right into the “once she finally invites you to a one on one date” stage), you turned it down and then invited her out on your terms, you spent time with other friends showing you have other shit going on (since you were possibly with girls etc.) and she was much more receptive to sex.

        She’ll try to make you her boyfriend now lol Don’t see her more than once a week and don’t do activities together that don’t involve having sex unless you want her to fall in love and give you The Ultimatum that she can’t keep seeing you if you won’t commit to being her monogamous boyfriend. It usually happens faster with 30+yo chicks, esp if they like you enough to make the stages of this whole turnaround only take a few days.

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  20. http://www.sbp-journal.com/index.php/sbp/article/view/2609

    Do women prefer “nice guys”? The effect of male dominance behavior on women’s ratings of sexual attractiveness

    We examined whether or not different behavioral expressions of dominance by a male affected how introverted and extraverted women rated his sexual attractiveness. We assessed 81 women on the extraversion scale of the Eysenck Personality Questionnaire-Revised Short Scale (Eysenck & Eysenck, 1991), and they then watched a 1-minute silent video of a male confederate in 3 dominance conditions (closed body posture [low], open body posture , and open body posture with gesticulation [high]) and rated the male for sexual attractiveness. Results showed that higher dominance behavior significantly increased the confederate’s attractiveness, accounting for 10% of the variance in attractiveness ratings. However, the women’s personalities appeared to have no significant effect on these ratings. These results are discussed in relation to extant literature on the phenomenon that women do not select “nice guys” in preference to other men.

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  21. https://www.ideals.illinois.edu/handle/2142/26208

    An investigation into the potential romantic appeal of convicted killers

    It is not uncommon for convicted killers to receive letters and visits from women hoping to win their affection. This behavior is puzzling, as evolutionary theory would posit that attraction to murderers runs counter to people’s survival instincts. To date, however, no research has been conducted to investigate this phenomenon. The goals of the present studies were to determine whether characteristics of killers that women have evolved to find attractive (i.e., fame and dominance) make them appealing to women, and whether women with certain personality characteristics are more likely to find a killer attractive. Results showed that fame was a characteristic that appealed to women, but that dominance was not. Also, women higher in sensation seeking and attachment avoidance with their fathers were more likely to find the killer attractive. Women higher in attachment anxiety with their fathers were less likely to find the killer attractive. Self-esteem, attachment avoidance with romantic partner, and attachment anxiety with romantic partner were not related to attraction.

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  22. Joining Islamic State is about ‘sex and aggression,’ not religion
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216356/posts

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  23. […] This post at Chateau Heartiste is being bookmarked because its subject is a video with Nana Mouskouri in it, who by complete coincidence I mentioned in my previous post. Can’t say exactly why I like small coincidences like this, but I do. Two Nanas in two days. So there’s that. […]

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  24. Is the first one not Nana Mouskouri? The Greek? Actualy, Cretan. I love her voice.

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    • This is beautiful. Nana Mouskouri, singing “Ta Pedia Tou Pirea” , “The Children of Pireus). (Which is also, lyricaly a beautiful example of a woman’s heart wants).

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  25. OT but this is the best Fred Reed column I have read for a long time.

    http://www.fredoneverything.net/Unstable.shtml

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  26. on October 17, 2014 at 8:51 pm Asian-Canadian Girl

    The author’s categories also allow the inclusion of other French-language vocalists:

    1. The Waif or Neurotic: Valérie Lagrange (1980s) when she is sad or depressed and talks morbidly of love, suffering, and death.

    2. The Eternal Ingenue: Elli & Jacno, Mino (both early 1980s)

    3. The Gold-Digger: Mitsou (1980s French-Canada), also Alizée, groan (!) (2000s).

    4. The Amazonian Alpha: Valérie Lagrange (1980s) does double-duty here when she is also enraged at the vicissitudes of life. The most powerful voice I have ever heard in a woman. The only equivalent I have heard in a man is the Thai rock musician, Pongsit Kamphee (late-1980s to now). Both their voices break when they ‘fly off’ in a rage and can modulate their voices to sound masculine and feminine at the same time like a counter-melody of gender-paired voices. Wow.

    5. Sporty Girl (Teen ‘Tom-Boy’ or Cute Lesbian): Other than by (unfortunate) personal experiences, my mind stops now when it comes to celebrities. Any help?

    As well, Arbiter’s astute and concise categories below, respectively, even allow the intrusion of glamour pornography or ‘erotic photography’ models splayed out in nice hotel suites (!):

    1. Bookish Girl: auburn-haired ‘Anna S’ (The Ukraine)

    2. Bouncy Girl: red-haired ‘Ola B’ (Poland?)

    3. Vamp: blonde-haired ‘Iveta/Sveta’ (Russia), photographed by Mikhail Paromov.

    4. Gala Woman: black-haired ‘Mireille A’ (Russia)

    5. Sporty Girl: Justine Jacobs (U.S.A.)

    It is said that the ideal woman has a face of an 11-years-old girl, body of a 15-years-old, and chronological age of 18+ to keep it legal. These women are now well-past age 18 (about 23+ now and nearing the ‘marriage-by-date’ wall). They run the gamut from breasts which are none (Anna S), small (Iveta/Sveta, Ola B), to large (Mireille A, Justine Jacobs) which fold over the chest wall and so fail the ‘pencil test’ (boob cannot hold it). Together with non-enveloping breasts, the best measure of youth is perhaps ‘puffy’ nipples (swollen areolae, also known as ‘mound-on-mound’). At last count, Anna S, Iveta/Sveta, and Ola B still have them. Checking myself now. Yay!

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  27. on October 18, 2014 at 10:57 am Asian-Canadian Girl

    … Sorry above for the unintended double post (which previously appears near the top as a reply to Arbiter). This Linux OS does not work for me anymore (I’m fed up and will go back to Windows).

    Oops, the above failed ‘pencil test’ reference was meant to say that the boob can grip a pencil under it and the chest wall. If the pencil falls down, she is a winner (and is likely under age 20). If the pencil holds, she is likely too old (most women of age 24+).

    Below are a few more examples of glamour photography or pornography for the categories (one man’s porn is another woman’s art):

    4. Gala Woman: blonde-haired Kisa (The Ukraine)

    5. Sporty Girl: Alison Angel (U.S.A.)

    Kisa passes the test with her no-boobs (yay!), but Alison fails with her large boobs. How sad that all girls become overly-endowed women in the end (!)

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  28. BTW, I heard a white male raise the possibility Hannah Graham may have been on an internet date/hookup when she was “abducted.”. He bases his suspicion on a review of all RELEASED video of her/them he could find; in addition to her wandering around alone and drunk at 1:00am.

    Its also telling law enforcement has been silent about Graham’s online activities and computer?

    Does she not own one?

    They couldn’t find it?

    They are also silent about Jesse Mathew’s online activities, computer…?

    Why?

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  29. […] Reader PA linked to an old video featuring four famous French singers embodying four distinctive styles of womanhood. All four are fantasizing about hitting on the same man who’s leaning against the bar.  […]

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  30. why are your web pages so damn hard to load all the time

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  31. I only know of one style of woman…the moaner…which happens to always be the woman I am fucking at any given moment….so strange this is the only kind I know of….

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