Female Beauty And The Economics Of Prostitution

The Economist ran a piece about the economics of prostitution that reads like it slipped by the Hivemind perimeter defense drones under cover of night. There’s so much RealTalk and UglyTruth it’s a wonder equalist foot soldiers haven’t converged on it to drown it in a vat of squid ink and sophistry.

FOR those seeking commercial sex in Berlin, Peppr, a new app, makes life easy. Type in a location and up pops a list of the nearest prostitutes, along with pictures, prices and physical particulars. Results can be filtered, and users can arrange a session for a €5-10 ($6.50-13) booking fee. It plans to expand to more cities. […]

We have analysed 190,000 profiles of sex workers on an international review site. (Since it is active in America, it was not willing to be identified for this article. A disclaimer on the site says the contents are fictional; we make the assumption that they are informative all the same.) Each profile includes customers’ reviews of the worker’s physical characteristics, the services they offer and the price they charge.

The data go back as far as 1999. For each individual we have used the most recent information available, with prices corrected for inflation. Some of those featured may appear under more than one name, or also work through agencies. The data cover 84 cities in 12 countries, with the biggest number of workers being in America and most of the rest in big cities in other rich countries. As this site features only women, our analysis excludes male prostitutes (perhaps a fifth of the commercial-sex workforce). Almost all of those leaving reviews are men.

Lots of platitude-pummeling charts follow. First, the inflation-adjusted price of prostitution services has been going down.

The article offers several reasons why this might be so; however, I think the primary causes are shifting social norms and demand substitution (online porn, video gaming).

Meanwhile, broader social change may be reducing demand—and thus, prices. Free, no-strings-attached sex is far easier to find than in the past. Apps such as Tinder facilitate speedy hookups; websites such as Ashley Madison and Illicit Encounters, adulterous ones. Greater acceptance of premarital intercourse and easier divorce mean fewer frustrated single and married men turning to prostitutes.

Disincentives matter. When the public shame of stepping out on your wife is lessened, the motivation to do so increases. This is all part of a society morphing from a predominately K-selected one to an r-selected one.

Most services above and beyond the base vaginal rate (BVR, could be a band name) cost more, because they’re niche services and because women, even hardened whores, instinctively feel some sexual acts are more degrading than others. Funny, if unsurprising, findings:

Women take kissing very seriously. Kissing is a more intimate act for women than it is for men. If you want to kiss a whore you’ll pay more than if you want to poke her in the pooper. PUA haters who scoff at players getting “make-outs” that “don’t go anywhere”, take note.

Like most regular women, most whores would rather spit than swallow. What I don’t get are the johns who insist on paying for her to swallow. It could be a dominance move, but then a money shot to the face is more debasing.

“Multiple men”. The data was pulled for female hos only, so this category represents putatively straight men who get off on sharing a ho with another dude. It’s disturbing that the cuckoldry fetish appears to be on the rise in Western megalopolises. Could this self-annihilating, self-castrating psychological disorder be caused by a parasite?

As surprising as the cuck finding is, the highest price commanded by its inverse — one man, two women — is predictable. Men dig non-gay threesomes.

The next chart will make a million fatties and fug feminists sprout martyrdom stigmata on their marbled labia.

Appearance matters a great deal. The customers who reported encounters to the website we analysed clearly value the stereotypical features of Western beauty: women they describe as slim but not scrawny, or as having long blonde hair or full breasts, can charge the highest hourly rates (see chart 3). Hair that is bleached too unconvincingly to be described as blonde attracts a lower premium, but is still more marketable than any other colour. For those not naturally well endowed, breast implants may make economic sense: going from flat-chested to a D-cup increases hourly rates by approximately $40, meaning that at a typical price of $3,700, surgery could pay for itself after around 90 hours. The 12% share of women featured on the site who are described both as athletic, slim or thin, and as being at least a D-cup, suggests that quite a few have already taken this route.

Pop-a-boner quiz: What do men dig?

Feminist: They dig rubenesque feminists with short black hair and flat business-friendly chests.

Patriarchy: They dig slender, long-haired blondes with big round boobs.

Patriarchy wins.

(For those wondering, when men say they prefer “athletic” women, what they mean is they prefer toned slender women who don’t have cellulite. Or, “athletic” is a euphemism for “barely legal”.)

Where da white hos at?

(You’ll notice that the cities with a higher proportion of white men — NYC, London — have the greatest skew in prices between black and white whores. But even in majority-black cities like Atlanta white whores still command a price premium.)

We had too few data from other cities for a reliable breakdown by ethnicity. But Christine Chin of the American University in Washington, DC, has studied high-end transnational prostitutes in several countries. In Kuala Lumpur, she found, black women command very high rates and in Singapore, Vietnamese ones do. In Dubai, European women earn the most. What counts as exotic and therefore desirable varies from place to place, and depends on many factors, such as population flows.

Baby got lumps. I guess black hos could go to Kuala Lumpur and… Bueller? Bueller?

Yet a cost-of-living index compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit, our sister organisation, suggests that Tokyo is the most expensive city overall of the three. The apparent anomaly may be because escorts who appear on an English-language review site mostly cater to foreigners, who are not offered the more unusual—and expensive—services Japanese prostitutes provide for locals. These include the bubble baths and highly technical massages of Sopurando (“Soapland”), a red-light district in Tokyo, which can cost ¥60,000 ($600) for a session and involve intercourse (although that is not advertised).

The Japanese are weird, #3,187 in a series.

A degree appears to raise earnings in the sex industry just as it does in the wider labour market. A study by Scott Cunningham of Baylor University and Todd Kendall of Compass Lexecon, a consultancy, shows that among prostitutes who worked during a given week, graduates earned on average 31% more than non-graduates. More lucrative working patterns rather than higher hourly rates explained the difference.

Easily explained. Smart women are better at exploiting market niches, and smarts correlate with beauty (up to a point).

Although sex workers with degrees are less likely to work than others in any given week (suggesting that they are more likely to regard prostitution as a sideline), when they do work they see more clients and for longer. Their clients tend to be older men who seek longer sessions and intimacy, rather than a brief encounter.

Older men need testosterone replacement therapy so they don’t wind up emptying their wallets for pillow talk and a cuddle.

A mother in Scotland asks how other prostitutes juggle child care and selling sex, given that bookings are often made at short notice so babysitters are hard to arrange. Another contributor who is thinking of having children asks how much other women saved before taking time off to have a baby, and whether the new calls on their time meant they earned less after giving birth. One reply points out that prostitution is easier than many other jobs to combine with motherhood: it pays well enough to cover child-care costs, and can be fitted around school holidays, plays and sports days, and children’s illnesses.

A nation of whore mommies. Ah, but it’s genetics all the way down, so no big deal. Until it is.

A greater awareness may develop that not all sex workers are the victims of exploitation.

I remember reading a study from not too long ago that found most teen prostitutes get into the business volitionally. Kidnappings and sex trafficking are actually quite rare, especially in East Europe. Also, prostitution does have a damping effect on rape and sex assault rates. This isn’t necessarily an argument for decriminalizing prostitution, but it does suggest that the god of biomechanics likes to prank our moral codes.





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  1. I’d bet that multiple male partners is, rather then cuckoldry, more likely poor young guys who share the cost and take turns. It’s gotta be economics above weird faggotry.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 2:19 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      ‘”I go, you go.”

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    • http://www.3news.co.nz/Facebook-teen-sex-shaming-exposed/tabid/423/articleID/319919/Default.aspx#.UnXuM_kvhYc

      Do not knock the joy of sharing some skank you’re not going to talk to again with your bros. A lot of players post that they find themselves chasing notches in part because of their desire to participate in the manosphere community.

      So I was at a gangbang, and this little brown asian chick was bent over a table, basically covered in lube, and this young guy steps up to get in it, but he like, slips and falls on her, sliding across the table right towards another guy. The other guy yells “SAFE!” and actually makes the arm wave. This kid basically stood up, got dressed, and left lololol

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      • Gross. It’s sloppy seconds and thirds and fourths and forty-fourths without shame or apology. Gross.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 4:14 pm The Man Who Was . . .

      Multiple males is about the pleasure of really degrading a woman + , to a lesser extent, the camaraderie of doing that kind of thing (degrading a woman) with another guy. I can’t see it as particularly gay.

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      • Don’t kid yourself – it’s totally gay. If you ever maneuver yourself to be in the presence of another dude’s erection, then YOU ARE A FAG!

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      • Its just chimp sex. Instead of mate guarding there is sperm warfare. Men are often sexually turned on by seeing other men fuck to fight in the sperm war. Classic r-selection response. I sense that its a channel even in myself but there are other kinds of overrides. In my case its so potent that I am more disgusted watching main stream heterosexual porn with men in it , especially when its voluntary. For some odd reason I am not as repulsed when its portrayed as forced, probably because it means she isn’t so much a slut. But basically I have too much of an overriding disgust factor unless it just basically women. I have a classic k-selection response.

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    • Bachelor parties.

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  2. […] Female Beauty And The Economics Of Prostitution […]

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  3. Prostitutes are in a way the most honest of women

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    • Go to Amsterdam and get screwed over by a cunningly accented ‘Suck HAND fuck’…of course the eager mind hears ‘Suck AND fuck’….

      So I’ve heard.

      Ahem.

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      • that is not the way in which I was referring

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      • that is not the way in which I was referring

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      • If you are white the girls will call you over enthusiastically. If you are some sort of arab they tend to close their curtains and ignore you, and press the alarm button if you don’t Fuck off. Once your in though it’s a straight deal 50 euros for a suck and 100 euros for a Fuck. I hear they raise the prices of you are ugly or fat.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 2:10 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

      white prostitutes are more valuable than the sacrifice made by Yeshu the anti-Semite.

      Go ahead and fuck a non-white bitch and contract HIV/AIDS

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  4. OT: how about those ugly sluts over at jez? they’re freaking out that they’re being spammed by folks posted porno and have decided to bit the hand that feeds. http://jezebel.com/we-have-a-rape-gif-problem-and-gawker-media-wont-do-any-1619384265/all

    a choice quote: “In refusing to address the problem, Gawker’s leadership is prioritizing theoretical anonymous tipsters over a very real and immediate threat to the mental health of Jezebel’s staff and readers.”

    lol mental health

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  5. @HABD…thanks for the correction. I need to keep on track and keep it sexual. Here is a brief update real time stuff. So last night Sunday Night I contacted her and she responded well. We went into a bit of banter and some sexualizing. Probably not enough though. I was trying to stay away from the funny guy dancing clown and there was a bit of a battle over frame control. But I have been reading a lot of Krauser lately going through all of his old blogs. I am up to Mid 2011 and it is really good. His text game and how to create attraction and comfort and sexualize. So I am learning.

    I reread Walawala’s comments a couple more times and decided like you said that it is all just a series of practices and I need to say fuck it and not care too much and sexualize more. So at last night’s text conversation there was a lot of her trying to control the frame and I held my frame and told her what to do. It is obvious that she is used to getting her way and bossing men around. She is very hot. She is a solid 8 at 34YO. But slowly she started to fall into line and give into my frame. I made a few sexual comments and asked for sexy photos. She readily sent them. Then she asked me out to meet this week and also asked me out in another city that we will both coincidentally be visiting in about a month. I would call those IOI’s. lol

    Then she opened me this morning around 8:30 and agreed to all of my plans for the date. So I had read all of your comments by this time and steered the conversation much more sexual. And she followed without a single objection. She also sent me another photo unrequested and then she had to go to work. Things are looking much better. One thing I am concerned about is that she appears to be used to living the good life. Possibly milking (just a feeling she has not asked for anything yet) a lot of nice trips and dinners etc off of her former men/provider and I do not want to fall into that category. But I do not want to be too offensive like the last one when I called her a gold digger either. Any ideas on how to keep this impulse from being a problem with her?

    I set up our date at a basic neighborhood bar in a trendy part of town to try to sub-communicate this. What do you guys think? Also on the younger prospect I am working on it but it is difficult when you are married, in your fifties to try to attract these. Most of my prospects are online and they really do not even consider you when you are a certain age. In person I can get the IOI’s and interest. But I am still not very good at spotting the IOI’s. I am going to get Krasuers book but I have to get a separate PO Box since he does not have an ebook version.

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    • Some tips:

      Don’t overthink, always assume the sale and when in doubt – err on the side of too much jerkitude

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      • Here’s another tip: ENJOY YOURSELF! Some of you dudes act as though going on a date with a woman is akin to a trip to the dentist.

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      • Well, “enjoy yourself” at least within the context of cheating on your wife [and presumably having to deal with the attendant guilty conscience].

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      • @Nepal assume the sale and be more of a jerk, always in danger of being the nice guy.

        @shane I am enjoying myself for the most part, just still figuring out the right responses and moves. I dont have a problem with the guilt thing. Try being in a marriage in the US for 20 years and take the red pil. That will cure all guilt. lol

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      • @Shane…let me put it another way on the “cheating” thing. Someone puts you in prison…never told you the law and why you are there…when you are in there the rules change all the time…it is capricious beyond your own comprehension or knowledge even.

        One day you find out that maybe there is a way to escape. But not escape really just to sneak outside, but you have to be back by bed-check. Or you will be caught breaking the rules or as our blue pill society puts it “cheating”. Then you will be punished by a legal system designed to favor the prison in a way that is subjectively stacked against you.

        Nah I have no problem with guilt. Come to think of it. what sane person would? lol

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      • Okay, let’s forget about the whole wifey thing and concentrate on this date – if your mistress manipulates you into NOT enjoying yourself, then congratulations, you just got yourself a second wife. Already you’re worried about spending too much money on her.

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      • Tell off-color jokes*. Order a nice bottle of wine or some single-malt scotch. Fuck her in public – in the coatroom and in the parking lot and in the elevator. ENJOY YOURSELF. And if she’s determined to be miserable herself, then ditch her Darkness-infected ass and pick up a different chick with a better attitude.

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      • *The kinds of jokes which would cause the Oscar Mayer Wiener Acadamy to send their Schutzstaffel Thought Police after you.

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      • And you’re going to have to pay in cash if you don’t want wifey to see all that boozing and fucking on the following month’s credit card statement. So start hoarding cash now.

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      • Walmart and Target sell cheap “Burn” phones and pre-paid minutes cards which you can pay for with cash. Also Craigslist for old phones. And all the grocery stores now offer pre-paid “Burn” credit cards up to $500 in value.

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      • Although most of the pre-paid “Burn” credit cards now require you to register them with a SSN, so you might consider committing a felony and registering it with fake data [and esp a fake SSN].

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      • Shame thanks for making my point. You are deep into the blue pill. Just as long as you can debate someone from your basement for one more day. I think I hear your mother calling you to come eat dinner. What is it tonight? Chicken nuggets or fish sticks. lol

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      • WTF are you talking about, dude?

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      • SRSLY, what the fuck are you talking about?

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      • Logistical paranoia of a mistress is a waste of time. My mistress and I have been to multiple foreign countries. You can’t exactly have a second passport. “Don’t give a fuck” transfers well to this domain so long as you hold your frame and don’t rub in wife’s face. Wives get much more cooperative when you do this and are faced with some dread. They just want to work and know you’re not going to leave.

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      • LOL at Reco’s description of marriage.

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      • Well there might be beaucoup fiat shekels at stake in their net worth and reco might the type to worship at the altar of the golden calf. More importantly, though, there might be minor kids involved, and in no way shape manner or form do you want to be laying the groundwork for the witch to get custody.

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      • Lawyers deal in paper trails, and Family Court is run by – get this – lawyers. [Whoda thunk it?]

        No paper trail == vastly more difficult for the Divorce Industrial Rape Complex to industrially rape you.

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      • There’s an old saying….can’t do the time, don’t do the crime, but even today’s women understand that to the victor go the spoils. Then again it depends on how you approached the deal in the first place.

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      • zmbikilr – for the record – I completely agree with you as far as the general “Alpha” attitude is concerned. My point woud be that there is a huge [nearly infinite] difference between talking the Alpha talk versus leaving behind a PAPER TRAIL of having walked the Alpha walk.

        PAPER TRAIL == disaster waiting to happen

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      • It’s a ridiculous notion That wives and mistresses can’t coexist. A secure paper trail means nothing if your mistress goes fatal attraction on you. Being in control of yourself and both of them is the best defense. It’s a long tradition both understand and dare I say thrive on. Act like you have something to hide and suddenly you do.

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      • > “It’s a long tradition both understand and dare I say thrive on.”

        Yeah, and wifey is apt to thrive on it by showing the PAPER TRAIL to the Family Court judge and getting 50% of all the fiat shekels and 100% of the custody of the minor children.

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    • Reco,

      Generally speaking, women over 32 tend to be more “k-selected” as the community speak would say it. Or in human language, they are more interested in relationship sex than casual sex. Lust wanes as you get older, the desire for companionship takes precedence. Its the normal life arc especially for women. That doesn’t mean they won’t fuck fast. It just means that it is harder to get a 34 year old into bed than a 24 year old, all else being equal.

      There are a number of ways to go about this. You could try to get as much of the seduction on the phone or through text, and then try for 1st date sex. That usually is difficult with 33+ women. Or you could plan on a 2 or 3 date progression. Something like: 1st date is a one hour affair for drinks. Don’t kiss or if you do make out *lightly*. But do kino her hands, arms, hair. Discuss sex but more emotionally than graphically. End the date on the hight point. 2nd date could be either dinner and then the pull to the hotel or it could be some simple event like an art gallery or museum then dinner then the pull. But a significant amount of 33+ women take *at least* 3 dates for men over 35. Which is why all older players go for younger women. They are orders of magnitude easier. Good luck.

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      • > “But a significant amount of 33+ women take *at least* 3 dates for men over 35.”

        ON WHAT PLANET?!? You sorry miserable motherfuckers need to get the hell out of Blue-tropolis and come have some fun with Red State gals in flyover country.

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 9:34 pm anonymous does not forgive

        >2014
        >dating 33yo grannies

        costanza.jpg

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      • Zombie,

        You’re annoying. Really, and you can’t read. Most women over 33 that you meet via cold approach or through on-line game will want more investment and thus will fight against quick escalation. This has been the conclusion of *many* guys that have tested this. The PUA BlackDragon who specializes in on-line game has blogged for *years* on how it is harder to quickly bed women over 33 than younger girls. It is possible to get quick sex from older women but it is harder. They are boyfriend shopping.

        Bedding older women quickly is easier if you meet them through social circle. Blackdragon did an experiment a few years ago where he did an on-line blitz of 33+ women. He rarely had sex within 3 dates, especially cheap drinks dates. The women were often insulted. With younger girls this was rarely ever the case. Reco has been encountering that.

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      • > “You’re annoying.” Because me and my women have FUN when we go out on dates? Because I get laid later that evening? Because my women have the time of their lives in the process? SRSLY, the Oscar Mayer Wiener Academy has filled your heads with so much nihilistic poison that you poor sorry miserable Blue-tropolis dumb-fucks have forgotten what it means to be HUMAN!!!

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      • @s.r. Thanks for the info. I think you are onto something. This has been my experience so far. Getting the bangs but it does take several dates. (The younger ones have been easier.) Dates where I spend money, go places, we do have a good time. Just takes a while and I am running the risk of falling into a beta frame.

        But I have been reading a lot of Krauser’s stuff lately and he calls it long game. And is very successful with certain women over a long period of time. And they are all young. European women are much harder to fuck short term than American women.

        So I have a meetup wed night for drinks. Going to escalate and try to get her back to my hotel on the pretense of visiting our club lounge for members. If this does not work I will back off play it cool and settle in for the long game.

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      • ENJOY YOUR LIFE! God only gives you one of them to live on this earth. Don’t let the Oscar Mayer Wiener Academy convince you to be miserable all the damned time.

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      • I gotta tell you Shame. One only has to read about two or three of your incredibly nasty redundant comments and will immediately come to the conclusion that you are not enjoying anything. lol

        Maybe you enjoy arguing with people. I dunno.

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      • Dude, seriously here, where have I argued with anyone? I’ve made two points: 1) Enjoy the hell out of life. 2) Don’t leave any paper trail to be presented as evidence at Family Court.

        But if you want to be miserable and/or if you want to set yourself up for an industrial divorce rape, then, by all means, have at it.

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    • on August 12, 2014 at 9:04 am having a bad day

      @reco
      “I need to keep on track and keep it sexual. [that’s a GREAT plan…lol…] Here is a brief update real time stuff. So last night Sunday Night I contacted her and she responded well. We went into a bit of banter and some sexualizing. Probably not enough though. [it’s almost impossible to be toooo much…lol…] I was trying to stay away from the funny guy dancing clown and there was a bit of a battle over frame control. [were you taking notes on her rolodex?…lol…those will come up again…] But I have been reading a lot of Krauser lately going through all of his old blogs. I am up to Mid 2011 and it is really good. His text game and how to create attraction and comfort and sexualize. So I am learning. [and actually putting in the work…don’t forget that…]
      I reread Walawala’s comments a couple more times and decided like you said that it is all just a series of practices and I need to say fuck it and not care too much and sexualize more. [now THAT’s the alpha attitude…lol…] So at last night’s text conversation there was a lot of her trying to control the frame [were these the same as last time?…] and I held my frame and told her what to do. It is obvious that she is used to getting her way and bossing men around. [so, you know she has an extensive and perfected rolodex…lol…you’ll need to set some boundaries for yourself and stick it out…no matter what happens…up to and including walking away…then observe what happens as you stick to your game plan…both your internals and her reaction…] She is very hot. She is a solid 8 at 34YO. But slowly she started to fall into line and give into my frame. I made a few sexual comments and asked for sexy photos. She readily sent them. [x rated or pg-13?…] Then she asked me out to meet this week and also asked me out in another city that we will both coincidentally be visiting in about a month. I would call those IOI’s. lol [or she’s just working through her rolodex of beta orbiter grooming…lol…those beta ‘expectations’ or ideas that he ‘has a shot’ come from somewhere…and that’s flirty convos and sexy pics…lol…then she somehow decides that she would ‘rather keep you as a friend’ ‘bc you mean soooo much to me’…lol…]
      Then she opened me this morning around 8:30 and agreed to all of my plans for the date. So I had read all of your comments by this time and steered the conversation much more sexual. And she followed without a single objection. She also sent me another photo unrequested and then she had to go to work. [was the photo x-rated action shot or pg-13?…the subject matter of that photo will tell you what her hamster is thinking about…lol…] Things are looking much better. One thing I am concerned about is that she appears to be used to living the good life. Possibly milking (just a feeling she has not asked for anything yet) [she won’t ASK…she will just ‘expect it’…lol…and then work some rolodex pages at the appropriate time…’pleeease’ ‘i didn’t bring any money’ ‘i NEVER have to pay…’ ‘aren’t i worth it?’ ‘none of ALL the other men that want me make me pay’…etc…be ready with your game plan responses…lol…] a lot of nice trips and dinners etc off of her former men/provider and I do not want to fall into that category. [then don’t pay for her…at all…make her buy her own drinks, at the very least…drinks, then hotel room…no dinner first…lol…seriously…] But I do not want to be too offensive [why not?…lol…bc she might not like you?…lol…that’s a beta attitude = no pussy anyway…lol…so don’t give a fuck and sex it up…lol…] like the last one when I called her a gold digger either. [that comment would have worked if you had owned it…and agreed and amplified…but you tried to explain it = beta…you were already into a defensive crouch with her anyway, so the hole you were trying to climb out of was pretty deep…] Any ideas on how to keep this impulse from being a problem with her? [just don’t pay for anything…lol…make her buy the drinks/dinner, or at the very least, pay her own way…and that includes you not making a comment about not paying then paying anyway…especially if she smiles at you and says ‘you don’t think i’m worth it?’…lol…or pouting…or some other rolodex action/shit test…that just spins the guard dog…lol…and why shouldn’t you expect her to pay to enjoy your company?…bc she has the pussy wrapped in a nice package?…lol…]
      I set up our date at a basic neighborhood bar in a trendy part of town to try to sub-communicate this. [the sub comms won’t be on what location you picked…or how inexpensive it is… it will be on who has to pay to be there…lol…bc that determines who the prize is…make sure it’s YOU…lol…you might have to walk away to enforce that viewpoint…seriously…but the compromise position is she pays her own way…] What do you guys think? Also on the younger prospect I am working on it but it is difficult when you are married, in your fifties to try to attract these. Most of my prospects are online and they really do not even consider you when you are a certain age. In person I can get the IOI’s and interest. [day game it is then…lol…] But I am still not very good at spotting the IOI’s. [practice…practice…practice…] I am going to get Krasuers book but I have to get a separate PO Box since he does not have an ebook version.

      good luck!

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      • @ HABD, reco & SR SR’s right, 33+ are ‘harder’ to get into bed. But then you have to define what you want…case and point—when I’m waffling about then I get no where with girls. I escalated with that theatre chick and she responded so fast it was like she was saying “What were you waiting for!???”

        Sexualizing is easy. I read this somewhere and you can use it. When you’re texting chicks, and she’s asking you questions, ask her one: “Besides your lips what part of your body do you most like kissed?”

        EVERY girl…I’ve said this to in person or texted immediately changes the interaction into “r-selected” or sexual. This one text is pure gold. Not sure where I read this–perhaps Krauser? Or one of his mates. But this immediately starts the conversation.

        As for the princess type…yes girls are used to a certain lifestyle if they’re divorced and 34. It’s up to you to keep your frame and remember that the only thing you bring to the table is you.

        There are times you’re going to have to pay…if you’re dating a student or a nanny yah, you’ll pay for stuff. But they should be paying you back in kind: cooking, banging you, etc etc. Or go to cheaper places where you can split drinks or get her to take you to her favorite spot and shout dinner for you.

        I’ve done this with EVERY girl…and they’re into it. The theatre chick is a bit spacey but otherwise knows what she can afford and pays for it. I only take her to cheaper places and grabbing dinner isn’t a chore. As long as you’re doing it because you want to and you’re not being rinsed it’s ok.

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      • @HABD…as usual thanks for the valuable input. But I have to say I am not so sure about the not paying thing. I see walawala is doing this also but I am so used to paying. Maybe that is part of the problem. So how do you bring this up? Do you just say lets split the check? I have never really done this not even with my friends. I believe this is a quality woman from what I can gather so far. And I do believe if I ask her to pay that is going to be the end of it.

        As for the last one and owning it on the gold digger question. What specifically do you mean? Are you saying I should have asked about being a gold digger and then just stuck to my guns? I never apologized and I never backed down and neither did she. And we ended up splitsville. I have to tell you ever since I started down this redpill path, most of my acquisitions have ended the same way split with more than a little anger with several of them. I have many doubts about some of this confrontational stuff working.

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 4:22 pm having a bad day

        @reco

        @HABD…as usual thanks for the valuable input. But I have to say I am not so sure about the not paying thing. I see walawala is doing this also but I am so used to paying.

        [there is an idea here that you need to understand bc it’s the key to ‘alpha’ (ie being sexually attractive to the girls…). ‘paying’ isn’t the issue. the issue is what do YOU have to do to make the girl WANT to spend SEXY TIME with you? remember, attraction is not a choice…or negotiable… or within her control AT ALL…just like you can’t force yourself to be attracted to a 300 lbs fatty with red hair not found in nature…lol…

        oh wait…that red food coloring in her hair DOES override ALL of your bio process…it’s all gender construct…OF COURSE you see her as HOT…lol…NOT…now that same red hair color on a rave girl ‘9’…well, hot as hell…even with the tats…lol…

        same thing with ‘paying’…if you can just write a check, hire the hooker… apparently, the market is saturated and the price is going down…lol…if you could just write the check and have the girls getting their panties wet, betas would be the most-laid guys around…lol…are they?…no…

        so JUST paying doesn’t work. in fact it works AGAINST you to pay (although, at the core it’s a neutral…like wearing a red shirt…). which is why it’s just easier/better (and at lot cheaper…lol…) to just NOT PAY for her at all…as a policy/boundary…paying automatically puts you into the beta provider box. and if you remember YaReally’s video, that means no sexy time for you…lol…women are very much about slotting betas into those provisioning boxes…(and that early/mid 30’s demographic, that you’re having the most trouble with, is the most finely tuned to doing this – they’ve had the most practice and are at the age when it’s the most important to their future survival…)

        it works against you bc by paying, YOU are INVESTING in HER (YOUR time, YOUR money, YOUR attention, YOU contacting her first…etc) it’s ALL investment…by YOU in HER…) the question her hamster asks is WHY…why are you willing to do this investing?

        you don’t know her…you haven’t banged her…you don’t have kids together…she hasn’t really done anything for you yet…except to show you some slight attention…lol…sooooo, WHY are you willing to invest in her?…her hamster spins…it has the ANSWER!…you have NO options…you are less than she is…she is MORE valuable than you…so, the question her hamster needs answered is WHY should you get to dump your dna into her baby-maker?…answer = YOU don’t…bc your genetics are inferior…how does she know? YOU told her…by contacting her first/often…by spending time writing long texts…by listening to her words…by obeying her commands…by paying to be able to spend time with her…by not having options (ie other women wanting you…)

        BUT…that doesn’t mean you aren’t useful…lol…she still needs provisioning/resources. and you’ve shown that you can provide these things, so she’ll ‘let’ you take her on dates/pay…but she doesn’t see you as a sex partner FIRST…she may ‘let’ you, but that’s more to keep the resources flowing, not ‘make a baby’ with enthusiasm…]

        Maybe that is part of the problem. [do ya think?…lol]

        So how do you bring this up?

        [you don’t. you just ‘expect’ for her to pay…bc that’s how it always has been for you…lol…see, it works both ways…ok, here’s some actionable intel…when your waitress takes your order, say ‘separate checks’…your date will make some rolodex play…take note of it for future reference…lol…then just shrug and change the subject…have a SEXUAL subject ready to go…lol…better yet, here’s one…use wala’s ‘what part of your body do you like to have kissed’ line…then just stare at her with smirk and see what happens…she should forget about the check. if she doesn’t, that’s bad and you’re into a frame battle/power play…lol…you’ll have to wait her out…lol…and insist that she answer your question…you might have to leave…if you’re not willing to do that to maintain your frame, you’ve already lost…do you see why?…]

        Do you just say lets split the check? I have never really done this not even with my friends.

        [betas are VERY generous…alphas are more self-serving…just like women…lol…do you remember reading anything about naturals?…]

        I believe this is a quality woman from what I can gather so far.

        [where is your info coming from?…her hamster/propaganda machine…lol…she can be whatever you’ll let her tell you she is…she’s really that rare 8, who in spite of being an 8, with millions of hot guys trying to get into her pants (including many alphas who have no issues with NOT PAYING for her to go on dates with them) is still the semi-virgin (only 1 partner!!!) who LOVES sex (with the right guy…) who never ever ever rode the carousel…lol…and is loyal, sweet, caring, and would make a wonderful wife and mother…lol…]

        And I do believe if I ask her to pay that is going to be the end of it.

        [why?…serious question…]

        As for the last one and owning it on the gold digger question. What specifically do you mean? Are you saying I should have asked about being a gold digger and then just stuck to my guns? I never apologized and I never backed down and neither did she.

        [this issue keeps coming back, so you need to sort it out. it’s about sub communications…girls want guys that ‘just get it’…see Rational Male for more on this…you made the gold digger comment and she got ‘offended’ (which is a basic shit test)… then you tried to ‘explain it’ which is really just apologizing (but it doesn’t seem like it from a male (logical/beta) point of view) so you failed the shit test…the sub communications of ‘trying to explain’ is that you are beta…that’s why she left, not bc she was ‘offended’ by the gold digger comment. if you would have owned that comment and teased her about it, instead of treating the subject matter seriously, you would have passed the test…]

        And we ended up splitsville. I have to tell you ever since I started down this redpill path, most of my acquisitions have ended the same way split with more than a little anger with several of them.

        [that’s bc the beta keeps creeping back into the interactions…how would you feel if this current 8 goes to dinner/drinks with you, makes you wait 5 dates with the promise of paradise (and you spend lots of $/time/effort), then you’re in the room and she starts to undress and she somehow turns into a 300 lbs fatty?…right before your eyes…same thing…lol…you’d be angry too…

        a big part of alpha is allowing girls to do some/most of the work…the more work they can do to ‘earn’ you, the bigger their tingles are…]

        I have many doubts about some of this confrontational stuff working.

        [i know…lol…so did i…but i had more pressing issues to focus my mind…lol…and nothing to lose, so i went all in…this is just sport for you, so it’s hard to let go of 50 years of programing…

        out of all the stuff that YaReally and I have told you, how much have you really tried that hasn’t worked?…when it works you are surprised and uncomfortable…that’s how it worked for me anyway…

        that’s bc being all ‘asshole’, all the time sucks…i never wanted to live my life that way, so i don’t…but that doesn’t change the fact that if i want to trigger attraction in some hot girl, that that’s the way to do it…and at some point the ‘asshole’ goes away and you’re just left with ‘alpha’…THEN, you can pay for drinks and dinner and it will be a DHV (alpha provider, which is even better than ‘alpha stud’…) instead of a DLV (beta provider)…]

        good luck!

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  6. ‘S funny,da black ho’s get paid less. I wonder if black johns get charged mo? I be guessin’ dey does.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 1:59 pm gunslingergregi

      black johns don’t pay they push the bitches out the car
      got to love em

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 9:36 pm anonymous does not forgive

      Most girls have a NBA policy. No Blacks Allowed
      (at least as customers, a lot of them love the dark meat in civilian life)

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  7. There are only two things which surprise me being correct and I have a hard time believing it, but other than that I’d say the charts, the linked article, and this article written by Heartiste are extremely correct.

    I am surprised that each prostitute for multiple women cost more than one prostitute alone because it is easier as well as less work for two women to take care of one man sexually, and it is physically safer for two women to be with one man than one woman to be with one man. I found it very surprising that one prostitute charging multiple men less per hour than two prostitutes charging one man more per prostitute because it is more and harder work to please multiple men per prostitute as well as more physically dangerous with multiple men. The only way this makes sense is if women find the act of multiple women and one man to be the most. sexually degrading. Maybe pleasing multiple men is more emotionally validating for women especially prostitutes than multiple women especially prostitutes pleasing one man.

    The next is that redheads are rated lower than brunettes. Men seek 1)physical beauty, 2) genetic variety and 3) youth in that order generally but not always speaking. Beautiful Redheads are harder to find than beautiful blondes and even more difficult to find than beautiful brunettes so they should be making more in my opinion. There may be some possible reasons for this. Maybe men aren’t as naturally attracted to redheads as they are brunettes and even more so blondes. It could be that redheads are thought of as uglier than brunettes and even more so blondes because of cultural conditioning saying that they are ugly. Tan Whites are more highly regarded than pasty whites now than they were in the past when it was the opposite and as we all know nearly all natural redheads are pasty white wheras most blondes and an even higher percentage of brunettes are tan. It may also be that redheads be they ugly, average looking or beautiful are difficult to find as it is the most recessive trait and they are by far the lowest percentage of the population. This may decrease the number of beautiful redheads. While more average looking and ugly redheaded prostitutes may find work than their brunette and blonde counterparts because men like variety, men will not pay more for less beauty.

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    • I’d guess the two girls/one guy scenario is a premium specialty. What I mean is, it’s not that the average hooker finds girl-on-girl degrading; rather, the customer wants something that looks and feels like the shit in some 70s Italian art house movie sex scene and intends to pay accordingly.

      Visuals and pacing are important. He needs not one, but two high-class hookers. Sexy, modelesque looks, preferably with a few good Kama Sutra-type maneuvers in their repertoire. Maybe with extra outlays for champagne or other substances that commend themselves to the sort of people who enjoy that sort of thing. A very special evening for all. A for-hire threeway ain’t just a pump-n-dump; it’s a g***amn Bernardo Bertolucci production. Hell, for that kind of action, you might even want to write a script.

      Now if he wants to settle for any old threeway with two fat dykes, he could move to Portland.

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      • Yes. Whores will charge more for what men can not easily get from amatuer women even if it means less work and physically safer for them. You are right that whores are all about the money. I see no reason why whores wouldn’t regard it as more degrading because most people be they man or woman would not want to be the mostly ignored third wheel in a relationship or a sex act. You are right that it takes a more coordinated effort to pull off correctly.

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  8. And thwack masta P and PA cried into their equalist cups.

    I’ve long advocated for whores, especially for betas, where regular exposure makes the betas more likely to be selfish in bed—due to the realization that “she’s not here for her pleasure”—-and also to realize that what they enjoy is being a dominant mofo in bed. and therefore alpha up.

    Life rape!

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  9. Haha. He said “rubenesque”.

    Back in the 60s, my dad had a pack of vocabulary cards as part of his Toastmasters training. In his biography he recounts working for a Jewish ladie’s dress salesman before WWII. He recounts going up and down the west coast peddling dresses to department stores, and meeting his boss’s friends, who he described as “a voluble bunch”.

    OK, enough linguistics.

    Nina Burleigh pens a complaint about MRA trolls serving as pedophile sockpuppets for the recent #womenagainstfeminism imbroglio. Clearly a case of an aging feminist apoplectic with rage over younger, hotter women getting the limelight.

    http://observer.com/2014/07/women-against-womyn-first-wave-second-wave-third-wave-and-now-three-steps-back/

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  10. Funny you mention black hos in Kuala Lumpur. When I was in a seedy bar in KL (a place full of expensive drinks and hookers), there were African chicks everywhere (these were nice-looking black girls- actual Africans not Afro-Americans) plying their trade

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  11. I haven’t read the article, but if that’s all there is then there’s much more information we need to make a complete statement about the demand of these girls. We need to keep in mind the supply of each type of woman on the market. For example, if 1% of white women and 4% of black women will whore themselves, that has a major effect on prices of each. A much higher percentage of black people have fewer quality alternative opportunities to prostitution.

    All that said, I’d not surprised thin and toned, voluptuous white women are in higher demand than others. In fact, everything noted is pretty much expected. As for hair color, was that only for white girls or did they include other races? Because black hair should cost less due to black women.

    As for kissing vs fucking, isn’t the intimacy of how those two are regarded dependent on culture?

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  12. Looks like I’m gonna need some sex tips… FR tonight 🙂

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    • lol wow man. See what we meant by ‘just getting out there and doing it.’ It hasn’t even been a whole month of you really going for it and you’re already about to get laid. Awesome

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      • @Scray Yeah, didn’t achieve the lay, BUT got SUPER close… she was on her period and that just kind of threw me off. Other reasons too… didn’t get to that part last night in the FR (barely got through writing up half the weekend), but I’ll have that posted today.

        Definitely seeing some crazy changes! I just want to know how to do mixed sets now… anyway, still waiting on Part 1 of my FR to get posted.

        I appreciate the help and support man! Totally didn’t think I’d even get to this point lol I’d be thinking “I’m too X. Scray, Immoral, and YaReally are X, Y, and Z. How can I compete?! Even Reco and Wallawalla are twice my age so they must have exp in Q. Kant has Tinder and mine doesn’t work cuz my pictures are etc.”

        Endless Illogical reasoning lol

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 2:27 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

      I fuck my wife in her ass so hard that when it bleeds I lick it and smear it on Yeshua’s portrait. I smear her leftover shit on the Bible and let her pee all over it because white women are GOD.

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  13. The problem with feminism – really just another tentacle of universalism – is that it’s not good for women. The more chaos feminism creates, the more dangerous the world gets, the worse life becomes for women.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 2:02 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

      You my friend are a misogynist frustrated angry male. Do you want to eat some of my white wife’s shit if you feel lonely. God isn’t going to solve your problems

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  14. on August 11, 2014 at 1:42 pm gunslingergregi

    note its not equal
    they make more than almost any man except ceo’s and such
    and they don’t even have to go to school just be born a woman

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  15. on August 11, 2014 at 1:48 pm gunslingergregi

    Kidnappings and sex trafficking are actually quite rare, especially in East Europe.””””””

    if you could make 300 an hour laying on your back
    or 7.25 an hour working at mcd’s
    what would you do lol

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 2:22 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

      I have two choices 1) let my wife continue to work at that preschool and wait until she divorces me for one of her students

      or 2) Ass fuck my wife, sell the house and dump her because she would be fucking her students anyways

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    • Not that rare in the UK. Some guys look at that 300 an hour and want that money to go to them.

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  16. on August 11, 2014 at 1:53 pm gunslingergregi

    so there is a pretty big wage gap after all
    any bitch can make more than 99.99 percent of men

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 1:54 pm gunslingergregi

      including minority woman

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 1:57 pm gunslingergregi

      worldwide wages probably 99.9999999 percent of men
      talk about unfair

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    • They only male a lot for a few years while they are at their sexual peak. Almost any 50 year old guy can make more than a 50 year old hooker.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 2:18 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

      I make $50,000 more than my wife, who is a preschool teacher who needs to quit her job before she fucks me up in divorce court. At least her cunt and fartbox are cleaner than dog suey

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  17. “What I don’t get are the johns who insist on paying for her to swallow.”

    There’s a dis-correlation between oral sex and preeclampsia / morning sickness. The hypotheses seem to converge upon an auto-immune response. Swallowing confers benefits to pregnancy. Presumably, if swallowing and insisting upon swallowing are favored by natural selection, then men and women would tend toward that behavior with sexual partners they find reproductively attractive.

    The face shot is for hate-fucking.

    Journal of Reproductive Immunology
    46 (2000) 155–166

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 2:25 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

      Which teacher let you cum on her face? Now I’m worried sick that my wife is probably getting ass fucked by younger guys :-/

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    • aside from science, swallowing is tidy and feels a lot better physically than having an orgasm into the open air. i don’t want to pull out at the height of sensation and jerk myself. it also gives the impression she just can’t get enough of you. i guess that doesn’t apply to prostitutes really, but my wiener has no empathy anyway.

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  18. on August 11, 2014 at 1:58 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

    Bring in more Indians and Pakis into USA & Canada and you will see a house price collapse in the West. Their food smells stink. I would rather lick the shit off my wife’s ass than eat that Paki brown towelhead shit food. There is a reason why the white race and white women are desirable by men of all ages. A white woman’s ass is a deity like God, look at all of those minorities worship that ass. God doesn’t exist because I can’t fuck God in the ass, but I can fuck my wife in the ass and lick her anal fluids.

    I get jealous when my girlfriend is a preschool teacher. Those perverted male kindergarten students need to take a fucking hike and keep their hands of my Goddess.

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    • “There is a reason why the white race and white women are desirable by men of all ages”

      Yes but don’t tell them you fool, or they’ll all want one.

      Viva la booty. Big and black is where it’s at…etc.

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 2:04 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

        No shit fucktard the minority population has too much HIV/AIDS. I shudder to see those fucking illegals trying to disease up Tel Aviv. Too many fucking towelheads and fat women in Tel Aviv. Those Arabs better keep their hands off our women before we send artillery courtesy of the IDF

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      • ???

        Jewesses, on the other hand, smell FOUL!!!

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      • My comment —-

        Your head —-

        You should become a fucking limbo dancer so much goes over your head.

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      • I’m not sure which smells worse, Jewish p*ssy or Jewish d*ck… They seem about the same to me…

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    • GasButtox? Is that you?

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 2:14 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

        Sounds like your preschool teacher asked you to toss her salad, but you woke up in the male principals office

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      • White woman anus Caucasian butthole preschool teacher booty sweat God Jesus AIDS.

        See, I can play the tr0ll word salad game too.

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    • I’m not sure whether this was supposed to have been sarcasm, but there is a staggering amount of Real Truth in it. Always trust your nose: YOUR NOSE KNOWS!!!

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 2:08 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

        white women take good care of every hole of their body. who the fuck wants to fuck some slobby fat curry smelling dog breath Asian or Arab

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      • It’s way more than just hygiene – whites simply smell better period

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 2:17 pm gunslingergregi

        never smelled a bad Asian bush
        I’ve been near some bad white bush
        I think it has to do with chicks washing when they pee and shit

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  19. That is so much money for a white chick! Damnnn!! Do these johns know that the girls are giving it away for free? Anything you want and more.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 2:07 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

      Youre probabyly referring to Slav women, white women in the West have standards and are more desirable for men. Their butts and boobies are more eye candy. God blessed white women with the desirable skin colour and untainted body.

      No white chick I know will give her pussy away for free, but those perverted male students better keep their fucking hands off our women!

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 2:09 pm gunslingergregi

      and more like payments for 18 years
      it is crazy though that guys expected to pay for a bitches mistakes but yet they have so much more earning potential

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 2:20 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

        I love ass fucking my wife, but if she doesn’t quit her job at that preschool, well she better quit her job and work in an environment where the non-whites do not feast their eyes on the white women

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  20. And as a gay guy I can say white guys, especially STRAIGHT athletic white guys would command top dollar if they chose to let gays suck their dicks and whatnot. But despite the economic depression there’s some kind of cultural or psychological reluctance. It didn’t use to be that way, working class white guys made money this way all the time but no longer. Gays now have to travel to the third world to find hot straight guys who are Arabic or Latin or whatever. Or stay in the US and pay black guys, which many don’t like (I don’t like black guys unfortunately otherwise it would be easy).

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    • I’ve heard this before, but I’ve never seen it explained; why straight guys?

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      • Because I like masculine guys and 98% of gays are not masculine enough. And because I want to sexually submit and I don’t want to do so to another guy who submits. Most gays agree with this btw but will never admit it. Mostly because they can’t afford to pay straight guys, like they used to before 1960!

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      • I’m not gay but I would think to them a straight guy is the equivalent of a virgin female to us heterosexual guys?

        not physically virgin but virgin in that it is new, it is fresh or a “first”… kind of when a woman tells a guy he is the first she is letting come in her mouth

        the guy feels “special” for being the first

        just theories…

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      • Because even the gays like real men.

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 10:53 am The Spirit Within

        @cynthia
        For the same reason that girls want ponies or guys want porn stars … we all want what we can’ have.

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    • Any guy who would suck another mans dick is GAY.

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      • Yes I agree. Read my post again. The straight guy isn’t sucking dick, he’s getting sucked off, paid for it, and sometimes he uses viagra. If you think that most guys are “too straight” for that in a very poor country you need a reality check!

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    • This is an attempt at meme-planting.

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      • Exactly… lawd, these people here are dim.

        Note especially the cogdissery trying to convey that this sort of thing “used to” go on all the time, sub rosa:

        It didn’t use to be that way, working class white guys made money this way all the time but no longer

        And, like most Cathedral cogdissery, especially of the queer variety, just two words suffice:

        BULL…. SHIT!

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      • No it’s the truth.

        Yes it did use to go on and it still does in most of the world. It stopped with the rise in living standards and the end of the white working class in the 1960’s-70’s, not coincidentally also the takeoff of feminism and the gay rights movement. If you read stuff written before then the way gays USUALLY got off was to pay poor straight guys.

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      • Bullshit… guys in the 40’s and 50’s were not letting queers suck their dicks for money on any sort of widespread level… although I’m sure you and your family were able to find the occasional outlier.

        Now avaunt, you fairy.

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      • Your problem Greg is wishful thinking, a consequence of ignorance. It was widespread both in the USA and in Western Europe, as it is now widespread in Eastern Europe, Latin America, the Arabic world, and anywhere else where a) money is tight and b) men are macho/there is a working-class or underclass culture. If you are in doubt I encourage you to travel to some of these places and see what local gays do, or talk to expats like me who go there for this purpose. Or if you can’t do that, then read about the gay underworld and how it worked before 1960 or 70.

        It’s still this way in the USA actually, but among populations where the two conditions just named still hold, namely among blacks and the hispanics.

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      • If what you are saying about gays is true, then those who are ” anti-gay” ( you are probably thinking the religious right but they are not the only ones ) because they are worried gay people are trying to convert and “recruit” people are right to be worried.

        If it is true that gays seek straight people to convince them to try gay sex, then parents who are worried gays will try to convert their teens or younger children are right.

        If any of that is true, I guess gays are like pushers hoping to get new people hooked on what they have to offer.

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      • Convincing Tyrone to let you suck his muh dikk is not much of an accomplishment, kike. SHHHHHEEEEEEEEIIIITT.

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  21. on August 11, 2014 at 2:13 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

    zombie are you an antisemitic prick? European Jewish women have some of the most steaming hot bodies in the world. Think of Natalie Portman and Scarlett. If any non-jew tries to get sex from our Jewish women we will make your fucking life miserable. We don’t want you colored immigrants into our state of Israel. Try your luck with a fat lazy stink Palestinian whore. The IDF is doing a favour by euthanizing that lousy worthless inferior towelhead.

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    • And the Jewish troll waddles in.

      Think of Natalie Portman and Scarlett.

      Bette Midler and Sarah Jessica Parker are more representative for that ugly Semitic race. Ugly as Arabs. And those two women are mixed with White blood to alleviate the Arab/Jew Semitic blood.

      If any non-jew tries to get sex from our Jewish women we will make your fucking life miserable.

      Okay, now I know you’re joking. Since Jewish women are known to do everything they can to sleep with Whites, same as Jewish men.

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      • Israel seems known for its hot women. There is that supermodel DiCaprio dated, the new Wonder Woman. In the US there’s Sarah Michelle Gellar, Laura Prepon, pre-Wall Sarah Silverman. In Europe prior to the 20th Century Jewish women were renowned for their beauty and feature in many Italian and French Operas as heroines. Probably the US effect — too much fatty food, not enough daily exercise = People of Wal-Mart.

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      • Whiskey, this is how we know you’re a Jew. You really can’t expect to fool anyone when you go around praising the beauty of ratfaces like Sarah Silverman.

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      • You could at least have used Jennifer Connelly as an example.

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      • And the Jewish troll waddles in.

        Definitely a new tack for the Sunstein crew, here at the chateau… grossness and inanity to make Howard Stern look like Albert Schweitzer…

        or for the more symbolically-inclined:

        This miscreant makes Alberich look like Hans Sachs.

        CH, you have to draw the line somewhere… let it be drawn on this clown’s marker.

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 10:55 am The Spirit Within

        Jennifer Connelly is Jewish? I thought she was Irish.

        She was my teenage crush.

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      • Anyone who posts something against the orthodoxy here will be dismissed as a Jew…

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      • SpiritWithin, I was crushed when I learned her mother was a Jewess, too.

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      • Connelly was dead to me after Requiem For A Dream… I don’t care if it was all simulated… which, btw, the jury’s still out on.

        Lawdy, what a skank! She’s looked burned out dead-in-the-eyes and hit the wall ever since that movie.

        She of course was amply rewarded for her degradation with Oscar consideration the next year… and surprise, surprise, she gets Best Actress for an 8 minute role in Beautiful Mind… give me a frickin’ break.

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 4:22 pm The Spirit Within

        Yes, she’s hit her wall, which means she dropped down to a mere mortal level of gorgeousness.

        Dead eyed, no. I remember liking her character in Blood Diamond.

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      • She peaked with Opportunity Knocks. Her early nude scenes are eye-candy, but I prefer her as a tease.

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  22. Prostitution should be decriminalized and legalized as well as less socially shamed .Instead we have an idiot culture here in the USA where narcotics specifically marijuana has been legalized in 2 states, Washington and Colorado, and prostitution is only legal in some counties but not all of 1 state, Nevada(not Clark County where Las Vegas is located and Washoe County where Reno is located which are the most populous counties and cities of Nevada). Here in Illinois and Chicago where I am at, it is theoretically legal to sign up for the website Ashley Madison to fuck someone else’s wife, impregnate her, let the cuckolded husband sign the birth certificate papers and not be charged with a crime or child support but prostitution is illegal. In addition, filming porn is to sell is ok, but prostitution is not such as California.

    It would give men more options. A higher percentage of women hate prostitution because prostitutes are strike breakers scabs to the Union of Women on raising the price of pussy. I understand why women wouldn’t want it, but it makes no sense for men to legally oppose it as well as socially shame men who do engage with prostitutes even if they never want to indulge in it themselves and advise other men against doing so. If you believe that a bar slut has less STDs than an escort, then you are wrong as it is the opposite. Where it is legalized in Nevada, they are the most STD free women anywhere. The fact is prostitutes are more STD free than amatuer women on average because they are more likely to practice safe sex and get regular medical checks. Some men would never bother having relationships and sex with women if they could legally go to prostitutes at affordable prices, knowing the prostitutes were STD free and without the social shaming. It is because of feminism especially because of feminist supremicism that prostitution is illegal. Heratiste has stated that the goal of feminism was to increase all options and liberty of women with little to no consequence and decrease the options and liberty of all men while making men pay for not only their mistakes but women’s as well and that this is especially true in the SMP, Sexual Market Place

    Advocatus Diaboli, Rollo Tomassi and Roosh have advocated for the decriminalization and legalization of prostitution, and so do I as well as for the social de-stigmitization of it. So did St. Thomas Aquinas who said that if you do not allow prostitution in the towns it would be like having the largest and most beautiful palace you had ever seen without a serpentine because it would stink up the place. St. Augustine of Hippo said that without prostitution being allowed in the towns then lust would overthrow society. Both advocated to all individual men that they should be moral and not have sex outside of marriage and not have sex with prostitutes, but they recognized the sanity of civil government tolerating prostitution. Because of prostitution prohibition and the shaming of men and women who engage in prostitution as well the recognition that no pussy whether you GAME it or whore it is free, lust is overthrowing society. Rollo Tomassi once in 2011 said that every man is paying for sex by degree because he is financing it(marriage), buy it whole sale or retail(dating)[doclove NOTE: 1) wholesale-buying cheap drinks at the bar trying to seduce her with GAME or seduction skills and going for the one night stand, 2) retail-paying for (many) traditional dinner dates and waiting months before sex], rent it(prostitution), or masturbate to its advertising(pornography), but rest assured you will pay for it as there is no such thing as free sex for men. Lust is overthrowing society as the divorce rates especially considering that children on average do better if parents stay together, promiscuity levels, percentage of people who have never married, bastardy rates increasing with all the social dysfunction bastards have on average more than children born in wedlock, and involuntary celibates such as George Sodini John Holmes and Elliot Rodger killing people because their GAME is BAD as well as having other problems and they have no or limited outlet because of the unnecessary danger associated with prostitution for sex. Not Sodini’s Holmes and Rodger’s problems would have been solved through prostitution and they seriously needed to attempt solving their problems, but they would have been less likely to lash out if they could get sex legally without the social shaming even if that meant prostitution. I have advocated GAME or seduction over prostitution, and still do. Conquest(GAME for sex) makes men feel better and more respected than mercantile exchange(PROSTITUTION for sex). Learning GAME helps you deal better with people both men and women whether it comes to sex or to something outside of sex.

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    • Game > Prostitution > Beta Dating > Marriage

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    • Great comment!

      One thing though. You wrote, “Conquest(GAME for sex) makes men feel better and more respected than mercantile exchange(PROSTITUTION for sex). Learning GAME helps you deal better with people both men and women whether it comes to sex or to something outside of sex”

      They can be combined in Hooker-Game, which largely consists of hookers wanting to come back free, stay longer than the scheduled time, going to swingers clubs with you, marry you, etc., and of which I am a guru. Succeeding in Hooker-Game builds one’s self-esteem, as well; when a cute girl that you were able to select like ordering off a menu and who fucks 20 guys a week wants you to be the one she does for free, its quite a compliment. Its largely a DHV routine, supplemented by taking charge and being a freak (though still calibrated) and preferably a hammer in bed. Negs should be sparingly, and doing something nice for them or taking them somewhere nice is more likely to score points than with, say, lawyercunt.

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      • That, my fellow, is the ultimate conquest GAME for sex. Eric “Mystery” Markovic and Neil “Style” Strauss had similar ideas for bedding Strippers. Both Strippers and prostitutes are sex workers, but prostitutes are more hard core sex workers. Few men even if they are alphas can accomplish that.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 11:27 pm TooManyTardsLately

      Sorry man, you lost me at “narcotics, specifically marijuana.” Tired of dumb shit fuck wads like you propagating the myth that marijuana is harmful and/or should be illegal.

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      • Hey cocksucker dumbfuck.!!! You could have left out the insult and at least stated your case through statistical studies or anecdotal evidence. Marijuana which is only legal in Washington state and Colorado is one of the best pain relievers known and is even better than alcohol which is legal in all states of the USA.. If you never have an accident nor get chemotherapy because of cancer, then maybe you could argue it, but at present I doubt it. However, I have seen people get into car accidents and get chemotherapy being divided into three groups. Non-Substance abusers did best at relieving pain through pain relieving medicine of any kind to include marijuana. Even light users of Alcohol and /or marijuana did fine but nonusers did ever so slightly better. Alcohol Abusers did a little worse. Marijuana Abuser did worst of all. The reason is that the marijuana abusers had too high of a tolerance for pain medication including marijuana and the medical staff were to frightened to prescribe more because they were afraid of making the patient over dose and possibly die. Now, shut the fuck up and do the world a favor.

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      • Here’s a parting shot. What do think men need and/or want more to get intoxicated on alcohol, marijuana and/or any other narcotic OR to get laid? Choose wisely.

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  23. on August 11, 2014 at 2:16 pm A white womans anus is cleaner than the food of Asia

    I fucking hate it when my wife complains that male preschool students are hitting on her in class. With the witchhunt going on for statutory rape accusations, I have to tell my wife to quit that school before she cheats on me.

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  24. Many things to comment. I will add one thing to the mountain of facts: in Western Europe, the majority of prostitutes refuse to sleep with non-White and East European clients. This includes non-White prostitutes. In interviews they say that it’s because the Arabs, Easterners and Africans are far more likely to treat women badly. To rape them or beat them, and to haggle about the price. And when the woman refuses to lower the price – which is clear on the website, so the customer knew it before he got there – these customers always start swearing and acting threateningly. “You fucking whore.”

    Of course you will never hear that from any mainstream magazine. And if they’d mention it, they would claim it was “racism” and not quote the women when they state the reasons.

    Women take kissing very seriously.

    I think it is mostly that they don’t want herpes. In fact, prostitutes are more likely to get herpes and other STDs from their boyfriends than from customers, because of how careful they are with customers.

    however, I think the primary causes are shifting social norms and demand substitution (online porn, video gaming).

    Indeed. And isn’t it funny how feminists hate porn, when it reduces prostitution and rape? But of course, they have never been concerned with improving society, only with attacking men, no matter what the consequences.

    women they describe as slim but not scrawny, or as having long blonde hair or full breasts, can charge the highest hourly rates (see chart 3). Hair that is bleached too unconvincingly to be described as blonde attracts a lower premium, but is still more marketable than any other colour.

    The whole world knows this, but it is forbidden to say it in the West. Yet another reason why we can be sure that our ideology is correct: another instance of where an obvious truth, known around the world, is suppressed by the Left. How can an ideology that must hide the truth over and over again be right?

    In Kuala Lumpur, she found, black women command very high rates

    Yeah yeah, it’s all cultural and all people are beautiful, blah blah. What kind of Blacks are brought to Kuala Lumpur? Hardly the typical African bush creature. And the writer “forgets” to mention if White women command a greater price in Kuala Lumpur, which of course they do. Or would, if there would be any who go to Malaysia.

    The Japanese are weird, #3,187 in a series.

    They like their sex and women compartmentalized to make them easier to handle for nervous men. Thus it’s the only country in the world where you can buy used panties in vending machines, and the country that invents “body pillows” (look them up: large pillows with naked anime women printed on them, for the men to use – apparently sold at anime conventions).

    Easily explained. Smart women are better at exploiting market niches, and smarts correlate with beauty (up to a point).

    There’s that. But you can also bet that intelligent women are far better in the bedroom. They realize that they get return customers if they act sweetly and take the time to consider what customers want in more detail, instead of just doing a route job. (And now some will say “but women in college are feminists, I’ve read that!”. Yes, I also feel sorry for you that you could never get into college and get some actual experiences with girls there. Laziness has its drawbacks, eh?)

    I remember reading a study from not too long ago that found most teen prostitutes get into the business volitionally.

    Teenagers can no doubt get twice the normal price. When their friends complain about a lack of money, they can get enormous bank accounts.

    One last thing: if you look at websites in Europe, prostitutes from the Balkans – i.e. from Hungary and Bulgaria (real Hungs and Bulgs and also Gypsies) – get bottom rates. Because they are ugly as hell, with masculine staring eyes and ugly noses. Black women most of the time also have bottom rates, but some of them have 50% higher prices – the ones that are not fat (the majority are fat; way to take care of your income, ladies). So even Black women with a discernible waistline are paid more than the ones who come from Europe’s trashcan. Which is good, because the trashcanners are organized by gangs that also sell drugs, break into summer homes, steal cars, rob customers and random people in the street, and do all the other things the psychopaths from the Balkans do when they get the chance. No wonder they have always been raping and killing each other, endlessly, only controlling themselves when forced by Westerners to do so.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 10:03 pm some german dude

      Where do you get this from? Western European prostitutes aren’t picky when it comes to customers, you just made this up. They have a lot of competition, they’d be really stupid to discriminate against customers. They’re glad if they get someone who isn’t a fat, repulsive 50-year-old. A considerable subset of prostitutes are willing to have sex without protection (even anal), which is legal in Germany. There are many websites advertising with prostitutes who do raw sex.

      Most of the Western European prostitutes are in fact Western European and Eastern European prostitutes aren’t usually much cheaper. Often some of the hottest and youngest girls are from Poland, Hungary, Serbia. But there are many hot German and French girls too.The part about the prices you made up as well, because in 95% of the cases you have to call the prostitute or the brothel she works to find out how much she charges. The websites they put their ads on usually don’t show the prices. This is prostitute 101.

      Also, what’s the hate for Hungary? Hungary isn’t on the Balkans and has some of the hottest females in Europe. Go to Austria and then to Hungary to see how hot they are compared to the European average. And Balkan folks robbing unsuspecting in the streets? Lol, are you retarded?

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      • I’ve banged escorts in London. Many of the independents have a ‘no blecks’ clause in their ads as well as no ‘Asians’, the belligerent head chopping Paki variety.

        The Pakis I wager probably treat the girls like whores from their home country, with much slapping and beating. As for the blacks, maybe they have shit attitudes? I dunno.

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 10:55 pm some german dude

        I looked it up. You’re right. I tend to forget that Britain is a part of Europe. However in France and Germany where I’ve lived I’ve never seen a prostitute with a racial policy. But I guess that’s due to lower number of blacks in central Europe.

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      • I don’t know about prostitutes, but I had a friend who worked in a strip club and said strippers (even black strippers) generally disliked black customers because they were stingy and constantly trying to get out of paying. It’s the same reason why restaurant servers (even black servers) tend to not like black customers either.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 10:11 pm some german dude

      Also, there’s a documentary about a German brothel whose regular clientele included a group of Qatari sheikhs. The sheikhs would line the hookers and pick three each. The hookers whom they did not pick got 1000€ each, while those whom they had sex with got 2000€.

      But I bet in reality hookers are, like you say, principled north-western European nationalists who discriminate against all non-Aryan clients.

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  25. I don’t know which site they compiled their data from *cough*TER*cough*.

    “Athletic” is certainly not code for “underage”. Suzy Hamilton was “athletic” and she was 40 something when she was outed/busted.

    I find it funny that Boston is high up on the cost vs. cost of living chart. I figure it’s that Bostonians get charge the same rate as New Yorkers while the city has a lower cost of living.

    I’m surprised Geneva and Copenhagen aren’t in there…

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      • T.E.R. is the site with the “descriptions are fictitious” disclaimer and the level of detail of info that the survey is showing. CityVibe is an ad site, one step up from backpage, one big step down from Eros. TBD is mostly US reviews, so not that depth of international data. Redbook was just shut down by the Feds, but that was mostly used for the girls to keep track of guys that use their services.

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  26. According to Maggie McNeil (who should know), involuntary trafficking is wildly over estimated by feminists and law enforcement. It’s understandable why law enforcement overestimate trafficking: they like their big budgets and expensive toys.

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  27. It was a good series of articles – and in true Economist fashion, had plenty of puns among the section titles – my fave being ‘The Invisible Hand Job”

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  28. Heartiste.
    “Women take kissing very seriously. Kissing is a more intimate act for women than it is for men. If you want to kiss a whore, you’ll pay more than if you want to poke her in the pooper. PUA haters who scoff at men who get “make outs” but “don’t go anywhere”, take note.” I can not express how much pure gold this statement is. It is often true for sluts as well. I will provide the anecdotal example below.

    A friend of mine was dating a women as in a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. One day she told him that she no longer wanted to be boyfriend and girlfriend. He calmly said he was fine with it and that he wished her well and that he was leaving now. She then said that she was going to downgrade him to a friends with benefits relationship. Of course, he agreed to it. One day he was fucking her in the vagina and simultaneously went to kiss her like they did in the past when they were boyfriend-girlfriend. She stated that he was not allowed to kiss her as they were friends with benefits and not boyfriend-girlfriend and dating. She still let him ejaculate wearing a condom inside her vagina though. He called it whore logic. I called it idiot slut logic because at least whores get some tangible benefit like money while sluts get no tangible benefits and only intangible benefits such as GINA TINGLES. I also stated that wife-mother material woman is highest ranked, wife material woman only next, whores third, and sluts fourth for respecting. I ranked wife-mother material being highest ranked, wife material only next, sluts third, and whores fourth for likeability. The reason I like sluts more for sex is because the idea of conquest and money free(there is no such thing as truly free sex for men) sex feels better than mercantile sex otherwise known as prostitution for most men myself included. However, whores get more respect from me than sluts because like Wife-mother material women and wife material only women because at least they know how to get something more tangible from men such as money. MY second post on this thread has a better more thorough better explanation. Here below is what was said next.

    doclove: ” She gave you happy ending hand jobs, didn’t she?”
    friend: “Yes.”
    doclove: “She gave you happy ending blowjobs with no condom, didn’t she?”
    friend: “Yes.”
    doclove “She gave you happy ending anal sex with condoms, didn’t she?”
    friend: “Yes, but she offered with no condoms, but I insisted on using them.”
    doclove: ” She gave you happy ending vaginal intercourse sex with and without
    condoms, didn’t she?”
    friend: “Yes, but I insisted on wearing condoms.”
    doclove: “So while your penis was thrusting in and out of her vagina, you went for the
    kiss, she became disgusted and said not to do that again, didn’t she?”
    friend: ” Yes. She said that as friends with benefits that was not allowed as when we
    were dating as boyfriend-girlfriend. WHORE LOGIC!!!”
    doclove: ” Did you at least ask to go from ASS to MOUTH FUCKING as I’m sure she
    would agree?”
    friend: ” No. Fuckyou! That’s disgusting! Where and how do you come up with this
    shit?”
    doclove: ” Disgusting. Why? Since you are not boyfriend and girlfiend and dating,
    then that’s what fuck buddies now politely called friends with benefits are
    for. A polite man asks. An asshole cave man JUST DO IT!!!”

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  29. on August 11, 2014 at 3:26 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    Hobbyists prefer attractive providers.

    Go figure.

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  30. I’m more shocked by the Economists publishing those last two charts than by their talking about ejaculating in someone’s mouth. I wonder what percentage of leftoids will (1) maintain radio silence and pray no one sees these, (2) demand the legalization of prostitution solely so they can require all whores to charge the same amount, (3) claim the data must be fake, or (4) simply kill themselves.

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  31. Those add-on markups seem off. Heavy S&M is cheaper than spanking? Two women cheaper than multiple men? It doesn’t make sense.

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  32. *oops I meant that the price for two women SHOULD be cheaper than it would be for multiple men.

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  33. “Large-scale migration is another reason prices are falling. Big, rich cities are magnets for immigrants of all professions, including sex workers.”

    That douche Tyler Cowen is probably jerking off onto his beans after reading that.

    “Twenty years ago most prostitutes in Norway were locals who all aimed to charge about the same, says May-Len Skilbrei, a sociologist at Oslo University. Today, with growing numbers of sex workers from the Baltic states and central Europe, as well as Nigerians and Thais, such unofficial price controls are harder to sustain.”

    Tyler can hire the Nigerian hookers. Hope he doesn’t get ebola. Guess that’s just a risk of no-border international prostitution.

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    • Pro Comment. Plus 1000+

      “That douche Tyler Cowen is probably jerking off onto his beans after reading that.”

      I’m going to use that. Thanks.

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      • As Tyler would say, “gracias.”

        I’m sure that he’d agree that semen allows him to receive even MORE pleasure from the beans, which he cooks with freshly ground cumin and rehydrated, pureed chilies.

        Although spooging one’s own seed into one’s own food sounds like a plan to Prof Cowen, it’s an impossible perpetual motion machine and one can’t feed oneself that way. Guess in the long run we all really are dead!

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  34. No Blacks!

    even the frigging hookers know this.

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  35. Round these parts, it’s rapidly descending into a choice between Eastern European hookers and lardkinis: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/fatkini-see-incredible-pictures-real-4037399#.U-lLWWMv3IU

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    • Choose rock climbing, video games, firearms, speaker building, motorcycle repair, tequila, single malt scotch, the heavy bag, or meditation first.

      Seriously, I know this is a game site, and I have learned a lot here, but.. Most women aren’t worth the time of day. They will not bring happiness into your life. Parasites pretending to be symbiotes, as a wise man said.

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  36. CH-
    Can you write a book that’s all game tactics, lines, routines, etc.

    Game sayings like telling a girl to buy me a drink when she asks for one and Imdont know her are invaluable. A man with 500 or so if those kind of verbal arrows in his quiver could go from beta to alpha a lot faster than a blind man with no erudite guidance in applied social charisma could. Right?

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  37. I’m all four prostitution – regulated, kept off the streets, with criminal gangs from Hungary, Bulgaria, Albania and Romania excluded. Conservatism could be said to be both for and against prostitution, but I say it should be for. Consider:

    1. Like pornography, it fills a significant purpose. Men need sex, and there are men who would otherwise go years, or the rest of their lives, without sex. This has consequences. For one thing, it leads to more rape. For another, it leads to pain for these men. Let’s avoid that.

    2. For conservatism to be against normal man-woman sex is a losing battle, a sinking ship that we should not tie ourselves to because some priesthood hate all things sexual. The celibate Cath priests have always hated sex because it excludes them. They don’t get to experience it themselves, and so they had to pretend that instead of looking pathetic because of that, they were actually morally superior. Also, sex was an important part of people’s lives where the priesthood was excluded. They could make music and art be about religion, but not sex. So they cursed it. We should not cater to their demands and lose together with them. (Ban condoms, would you? Right.)

    3. Prostitution and pornography weaken feminism, which the feminists hate. Sex is a way women can control men – the feminist hope is that female company and sex will be withheld from men who don’t toe the feminist line. When men can get sexual release all the same, women lose some of their power and have to cater to men instead. Hmm, maybe a girl shouldn’t say just whatever she wants to the guys, if they can just go elsewhere to get the goods….

    That said, what I hear is that prostitution is like drinking tap water that has been boiled and then cooled again. It will slake your immediate thirst, but it won’t taste much. Sex without kissing and mostly without touching – men should do their best learning game so they won’t have to resort to that.

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    • Do hookers right and quite often there’s kissing, and there’s certainly no shortage of touching. As for touching, my new routine is I make them all strip nude and get into a kiddie pool in my living, where I soak them in Wet Platinum lube. All but one (last night’s) have eaten it up; that having been said, last night’s initiated making out with me, and in the past, our fucking usually ended in a hot make-out session with my load all over her lips, face, and mouth.

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  38. Dem hoes need to price it right

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  39. Easy: Fewer women are marrying and receiving financial compensation from their spouses through a lifetime commitment of monogamy, so there are more free agents.

    Listen up and listen good: THERE IS NO FREE PUSSY. You will pay now, or pay later. Women know how badly you want it and it will cost you.

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  40. on August 11, 2014 at 6:30 pm gunslingergregi

    life is pretty fucked
    this chick like how come you never gave me a chance
    i’m like well I didn’t fall in love with you
    I like you as a person have fun with you but yea not gonna fall in love
    what the fuck man its kind of fucked up
    I told her i’m letting you hang out with me now
    the spark ain’t there although I had good time with her yesterday
    why ya always got to make sure love goes both ways or mybe it I ok if it only goes one way maybe doing it wrong lol

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 6:33 pm gunslingergregi

      maybe don’t have the same passion but shit prob get more out of a chick that loved me and I didn’t love back

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 6:37 pm gunslingergregi

      gave her the romance shit cause I like doin it but yea I’ve always done that

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  41. Feminism is like the rat tat tat of small arms fire that zeros in the FWOOOM of this airstrike. Lol at the reality that S&M is so cheap. Pull a Chris Brown and she might just give you a free fuck coupon and love you thereafter.

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  42. I remember living in germany back in 2008 and walking by the one street in the city (aachen) that permitted prostitution. The price for your typical german or more likely eastern euro chick was about 30-35 euro for 30 min. The african chicks (about 20% maybe) were lucky if they could charge over 20 euro. Also about 95% of guys gojling to the street were turk or arab

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    • Go to Bourbon street in the back bar of some strip club and needless to say you had to give of a lot of polite no-thank-yous to the snaggletooth ahem people of color working the joint

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      • Doesn’t have to be the strip clubs. Got approached by several snaggletooths at regular bars on bourbon. Most of them are nasty.

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    • “Also about 95% of guys gojling to the street were turk or arab”

      😦

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  43. Hookers dont charge more for kissing than for anal…

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  44. blonde white women are worth more then black hos……guess we know who has the real privlage

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  45. Interesting they left out the wage versus age data. Must have been too ugly a truth to handle. I bet those 18-21 year olds command a huge premium

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  46. on August 11, 2014 at 7:25 pm adolf hitler jr

    Robin Williams is dead

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    • He committed suicide…

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      • “Though Williams had one of Hollywood’s most enduring careers, divorce — from first wife Valerie Velardi in 1988, and from second wife, Marsha Garces in 2008 — had gutted his bank account.

        “Divorce is expensive,” he recently said. “I used to joke they were going to call it ‘all the money’, but they changed it to ‘alimony’. It’s ripping your heart out through your wallet.”

        Just sayin….

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  47. WorldStarHipHop video showing rapper walking white women on a leash through Yale University. So much for collegiate feminism: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh33DjED373WhDNUi9

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  48. Whorefinder’s specialty is getting passed around by fat homo neocons at Karl Rove’s parties.

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  49. Can you make the blog more smooth and efficient to read like Roosh V has his blog. You’re high iq man but how about some common sense quick pragmatic tactics to enhance game instead of these University Professir diatribes. The excessive intellectualism must be a DC thing. Simplicity is intelligence.

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  50. I think you’ve put the wrong spin on the gangbang/cuck issue. Granted, I’ve never taken part in a gb, but it can’t be more obvious that it’s more about objectifying the woman, treating her like nothing more than a fucktoy and making it obvious that’s all she is, instead of a precious princess, treasured and worshipped as women crave to be seen. As for the cuck angle, how is that possible with a prostitute? There’s no long term relationship or financial/emotional investment by the man, she’s nothing but a one night business deal.

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  51. “has studied high-end transnational prostitutes”

    Another kind of tranny?

    Whore: “I’m a transnational prostitute”

    John: “Pre-op or post-op?”

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  52. https://imgur.com/Muurrsg

    Herschel Rothstein. LOL. Come on Jew Within, call us paranoid.

    At this point, it doesn’t even matter if it’s deliberate or not.

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  53. on August 11, 2014 at 9:50 pm JenkPac Shakur

    “Could this self-annihilating, self-castrating psychological disorder be caused by a parasite?”

    Yes, by the eternal world parasite known as “Jew”.

    As the National Socialists said in their time: “He who defends the Jews harms his own people. One can only be a Jewish lackey or a Jewish opponent. Opposing the Jews is a matter of personal hygiene.”

    The Jewish parasite invented the slave religion for the goyim Christ insanity and it eventually morphed into Communism (created by Jew Karl Marx using Christ insanity’s as it’s blueprint) and today it has morphed again into modern Liberalism.

    Christ insanity/Communism/Liberalism corrupts the white man’s natural empathy and love that we have as inherint instincts within us as a race and turns love/empathy quite literally into a WMD that destroys us from within via the egalitarianism of these sick Jewish ideologies encouraging us to love and be empathic towards the subhumans our racial enemies (which is a missplaced form of our love and empathy which should be exclusively given only to our own racial kinsmen).

    White Christians/Communists/Liberals are the suicidal force of useful idiots that can quite literally wipe out the entire world in their crazed psychosis to “uplift” that which is unupliftable ie that other race of parasites known as the blacks.

    Scores of Christian morons just love heading on over to Ebola infested darkest Africa to help their colored brothers in Christ overcome nature’s own desire to kill these untermenschen off.

    Eternally the Christian/Communist/Liberal is at war against nature itself and has unfortunately succeeded at holding back the will of nature for a time but eventually nature will prevail in one way or another via the death of blacks, the death of whites or the death of everyone.

    I hope things work out to where nature forces a complete separation of whites from every other race but things could turn out far worse in the long run ie the whites of Haiti’s fate.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 10:05 pm some german dude

      I bet you built a shrine to Odin in your mom’s basement. Faggot.

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      • That’s all you got, dude?

        Your grandfather called, said he’s gonna punch you in the face and make you cry.

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      • The idiot doesn’t realize that our civilization only actually started to get joo-infested when it … wait for it… rejected Christianity (as traditional Catholicism).

        (JenkPac’s head explodes)

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 7:50 pm JenkPac Shakur

        The corvinus moron doesn’t understand that if Christ insanity was the bullwark against jewry Christ morons always say that it is then it would’ve protected western civilization for all time against the Jew infestation but it did the exact opposite and bent over for the Jews when the Jews deemed that the time was right since Jews control this slave cult Christ insanity not the white man.

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      • Hey dumbass, ever heard of Freemasonry? Locke? Hume? Hegel? Nietzsche? All were anti-Christians. Western elites have been spitting on Christianity for the past several hundred years.

        Christianity can hardly protect Western civilization when Western elites have been doing everything in their power to remove Christianity from Western civilization, and to water what remains of it down with lovey-dovey be-nice crap, and on top of that, welcoming in the jooz. Use your head for once.

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  54. 3 Part Update, use italicized headings to move forward.

    Part1- Jay’s Story

    Q2 Hell– Not job related. I have been moving for the last month and a half.

    I spend most of my days in the past 2 weeks as an “Incompetency Manager”. As the IQ and skin color of ‘Americans’ continues to plummet in parallel, you could make an entire career out of this title.

    I have a second job now. It largely consists of directing brownies and low IQ service job whites (what other industry is left in the FUSA? Not much…) to perform their menial fucking job tasks without being distracted by shiny bright objects.

    You may think I’m exaggerating, you’d be wrong. I’ve spent 1-2 hours per day minimum in the last 10 days on the phone directing simpletons to perform the tasks they are paid for.

    Some examples, for your perusal — Delivering packages to a new construction area. Simple, right? Not even a little. Remember, average Americans circa 2014… Half of all deliveries went back to the manufacturer because why not?

    Transfer of utilities? Just a shade less complex than calculating sub-orbital trajectories for the sub 80 IQ crowd. Your friends and neighbors.

    Delivering a new trash can or recycle bin? Rocket fucking science. You may a well ask your average joe to predict ballistic telemetry. For him/her, the complexity is identical.

    I realize I of all people should not be surprised anymore, but when you have to deal with SO many in a 2 week time frame it drives the message home about how lost we are and that we are not really circling the drain anymore, we are on the waterslide out now to the stinking sewer.

    Part 2- The Anthem of the Fatties

    I’m sure at least SOME of you know by now that the American Land Whale now has an official anthem. Sounds black (like our other wigger whore friend Iggy Azalea, who knew Aussies had coal burners too?), but IS a blonde haired white fatty. When and where does it end?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCkvCPvDXk (look for token black fatties and ambiguously gay massively large half breed male dancing for? the cock? the money? we will never know…)

    I’m uncertain… but this motherfucker is in the Billboard Top 10. Position 3— Aussie Wigger Whore with Ass implants (truth) Iggy Azalea “FANCY”.

    Position 8, and rising, American wigger whore fatty Meghan Trainor. Blonde / blue / white / fatty. It is anyone’s guess who has caught more ni66a dick. Her or Azalea. Does it matter? Remember, we are on the water slide.

    Part 3- Trayvon Redux, Dead Ni66a 2.0

    Idea– Be black, young, and hostile. Talk mad shit to a white cop who may or may not be rayciss (safe best is tails…), cop becomes more angered, you become more Trayvonish, attempt to pull service weapon from holster. Get ventilated several times at point blank range for the attempt. News at 11.

    At least Trayvon attacked a 1/2 spic 1/2 jew wannabe cop. (Ermm, I mean “White Hispanic!”) this little guy attacked the real thing and paid dearly.

    What comes next? Bantus on Parade. The ‘demonstrations’ turned into looting, robbery, violence, mayhem, and some shooting. Do Bantus actually do anything else if you take them off the leash? I’ve never seen it.

    Observe this St. Louis based flabby white male trapped in his car. If you zoom closely on the video you can see the urine running down his leg as Bantus dance on his hood and rear deck. What else would he do?

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    • on August 12, 2014 at 3:24 am gunslingergregi

      do police ever only fuck with the weak
      never see em do shit on riots or whatnot
      they sure used to fuck with the pro life protesters who wouldn’t fight back

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    • on August 12, 2014 at 4:13 am gunslingergregi

      look at the fat white bitch in background
      respect though nobody demonstrated and burned shit down when a handcuffed white dude was shot by police

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 4:40 am gunslingergregi

        my question would be why can’t the cops shoot the looters?
        seems like would save a lot of future time in jail and pain and suffering of other people

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 4:46 am gunslingergregi

        anyone want to go with me and set things a right next time a white baby is killed taking applications

        ”””””””
        Putting aside her own pain and fear, the loving black mother desperately tried to save her baby’s life by giving him CPR; but the helpless innocent child, shot in the face by a white assailant, died anyway.
        Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/black-teens-kill-white-baby-media-silent/#HXpLC0Op8VVq3ig4.99”””””

        what the fuck man

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 4:49 am gunslingergregi

        carry a sign at least do something

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 4:51 am gunslingergregi

        being white is kind of embarrassing

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 7:41 am gunslingergregi

        ok so for the educated guys was there a precedent in rome of the non romans killing roman woman and babies in the streets
        and what happened then?

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      • gunslingergregi

        my question would be why can’t the cops shoot the looters?
        seems like would save a lot of future time in jail and pain and suffering of other people
        ————————————————————————————————-

        Because the application of violence usually only solves a problem by causing a new one; one that is often worse than the initial problem that it “solved”.

        Before Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 Hezbollah did not exist.

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      • Deadly violence is the only thing that stopped both the Nazis and the Japanese from killing and torturing innocent civilians.

        Sometimes violence is the only solution.

        Besides,

        Muslims have been angry at the rest of world centuries before Israel was created.
        Jews are to blame for certain things but they did not make Muslims a violent angry bunch of crazy people.

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 8:41 am gunslingergregi

        http://www.unz.org/Pub/HowardWilliam-1896

        ””””””

        book about Armenians getting slaughtered raped tortured en mass by turks and kurds
        saying same shit going on in Syria with like slaughterhouses for Christians dam yo

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 8:43 am gunslingergregi

        so I guess easy to see how men and womans brains evolved diferently

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 8:50 am gunslingergregi

        so fearing going to hell for committing suicide with the Christian faith kept the Armenians as the breeding machines for Turkish pleasure and torture

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 9:09 am gunslingergregi

        holy fucking shit bet womans studies don’t make chicks read that book

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    • “do police ever only fuck with the weak
      never see em do shit on riots”

      They are ordered to not crack down on rioters.

      Cops like to crack skulls and have a Hoooah! mentality just like Army recruits. Who theyre scared of is anyone who may take away their salary and pesion.

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    • And there is no faster way of losing your pension than being videotaped insenstively handling an affffikn-amurkn yoot.

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    • How many white people do any of you know steal boxes of hair extensions to deal with the loss of a loved “brother”?

      watch this video

      Those poor black people are so sad that one of their brother died that they drown their sorrow in boxes of hair extensions.

      My culture is being enriched by these vibrant black people. Can’t you feel the enrichment of our culture?

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  55. on August 11, 2014 at 10:25 pm Mean. Mr. Mustard.

    In the state of Victoria (Australia) we have legalised prostitution.
    There are legal, registered brothels and legal, registered escorts.
    Prices at “higher end” establishments are typically around the $270-$300 (Au) mark. ($260 US). Escorts tend to charge even more per hour.
    All sex is protected.

    Despite this, there are still numerous illegal brothels, escorts, “massage” premises and even street walkers (usually drug addicts). The illegal establishments tend to be run by asians.

    As with most things, the cost of fucking in Australia is rather expensive.

    Particularly if you marry an Australian woman, things take their natural course as they do here all too often and you and end up in the Family Court.
    That is when you realise how fucking in Australia can be VERY expensive.

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  56. Okay so a shitload of fuckups and even some successes (SPOILER: no sex.. but got VERY close). I’ve been going out at least six days a week, gaming with the same dedicated wings (GingerWing… AlphaWing hasn’t been around much). After coming back from NYC, I was pretty pissed. ApproachMachine inspired me to be more aggressive. So no more “I thought you were cute” openers. I want sex so I’ve started saying “Hey you look sexy, had to say hi” and then I move forward from there. The results have been PRETTY crazy. Like, I approach this hot makeup counter girl 9 walking down the street (daygame) with her gay friend. He leaves to talk to some chick he knows or something. I stroll right up to her (yeah I know, would’ve been baller to do it while he was there) and say:

    Me: Nice, he made things easy for me.
    HB9: Huh?
    Me: I saw you and thought you were sexy. Had to say hi. (laser eye contact, I reach out to hold her hand)
    HB9: *DDB eyes* *maintains eye contact* (she takes my hand) I’ve never had a boyfriend.
    Me: Oh… uh, you’ve never had a boyfriend…? (not sure what she meant here)
    HB9: I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m saying. I’ve never had a BOYfriend.
    Me: So… what you’re lesbian?
    HB9: Yeah.
    Me: Oh… ugghh… well… (I look away, pretending to be cool, but actually nervous from how hot she is, but I try to play it off)… maybe we could just be friends, I guess… b-but you might be crazy, I’m not too sure yet.
    HB9: I am crazy (smirk)
    Me: Well cool, I’ll get your number and we’ll-
    HB9: Yeah, no 🙂
    Me: Ugh 🙂
    HB9: What you did earlier… that was AWESOME… it might work on some girls…
    Me: But just not you.
    HB9: Yeah, not me. Where do you live?
    Me: X
    HB9: Oh, that’s too far. That’s too bad 🙂
    Me: Yup, too bad (implying it was bad for her)
    HB9: (DDB or whatever, some sort of gaze as she smiles)

    So the gay guy returns and he’s like nuh-uh or whatever. I respond:
    Me: Well no, I’m not hitting on you. I’m into girls.
    Gay guy looks at HB9, takes her hand, and drags her away.
    I looked like a fucking scrub that day (beard) and she looked fucking higher class so I dunno, maybe she fucks guys who don’t give a fuck lol
    Not sure why she said yes when I asked if she was a lesbian… oh well. That was awesome 🙂

    Later in the week (also daygame), I approach another girl who had a bf:

    Me: Hey thought you were sexy. What’s up?
    HB7: Lol thank you.
    Me: How old are you 31?
    HB7: Lol what?
    Me: I figured I’d start with an insult. Nowhere to go but up 🙂
    HB7: Nice job.
    Me: So you do horse-back riding? (random ass cold-read)
    HB7: No lol do you?
    Me: No but I was expecting you to. I like my girls to have skills.
    HB7: Wow, um no I don’t.
    Me: So what do you do.
    HB7: Retail at X. So what did you just follow me from where I worked.
    Me: Yeah, I told myself that I would have you and decided to stalk you. I even held onto my dick as I jump in to approach.
    HB7: lol oh my god
    Me: Yeah… can you dance (PUA twirl initiated)
    HB7: Lol no (complies)
    Me: I like your belly button (she had a flat ass stomach, nice — I put her arm around my neck as I finish the twirl)

    And other shit, comfort. She tells me she has a bf (6 years), picking up her parents from the airport, can’t stay.

    Me: Alright, I’ll see you later. Let me know when you break up with your bf.
    HB7: Lol oh my god! (buying temp is through the roof, seriously)
    We awkwardly hug (I’m not sure if I should keep trying to hug them… sometimes it works, but it’s never a real full hug anyway, so why bother?)

    So yeah… telling a women she’s sexy (like if I actually believe it i.e. I want to fuck her) works.

    Other daygame approaches this way I’ve learned I need to tone down getting the girl to hug. I’ll try like three times to get the hug and it just turns the girl off I feel, even if I get the number. Had another daygame approach but like, same shit, diff girl.

    But onto the fun stuff 🙂

    Weekend FR (Friday):

    So, I’m rolling solo. All my wings ditch me. AlphaWing is nowhere to be found (couldn’t go to industry night YET AGAIN, because of the girl I had over), so yeah. I don’t know if it’s my newfound confidence or state or whatever, but I’m feeling right at home being alone. I open groups, hit on girls walking past. I had no anxiety. It’s like I have invisible wingmen cheering me on or something.

    I head into a club and approach solo, talk to everybody. Make friends with two random guys — I cold read, ask em to be my wings. One of the dudes is cool with it, the other tries to get him to leave. So I’m like cool then, peace.

    I approach some girls, join their group, told the most “attractive” the bunch she had a flat ass (she was like a 6). All the girls lol, dancing, I ask her if she’ll blow me up (cold read her as Pakistani), says I have to go, pushes me away, I head to look for next set.

    Run into one of the dudes I asked to wing with me earlier. We chat some more, small talk, his buddy is already talking to a chick. I assumed he had good game, dude tells me his buddy has terrible game. “Right how she’s trying to leave and he’s trying to convince her to stay. He’s awful.”

    Me: Alright then wing with me then.
    TallDude: Okay sure (not really believing it or whatever)
    Just then, lady walks by, I pull her in “Hey, what’s up.”
    Wife: Hey 🙂
    Bachelorette party follows suite. The dude’s like “wtf?”
    Other girl comes in “she’s going to get married soon”
    Me: Oh, okay, nevermind.
    OG: She’s free to have fun tonight tho. She’s single tonight.
    Me: Okay cool, see my buddy over there (I point to dude — he’s still shocked) chat him up.
    Wife: Oh, he’s cute (leaves)
    Me: So, when’s she getting married?
    OG (Now Chubby6): Blah blah you should buy her a drink cuz blah
    Me: Nah, I’m not gonna do that. But you can buy me a drink tho.
    Chubby6: Why would I do that?
    Me: Cuz it’s my bday today.
    Chubby6: What’s your sign?
    Me: I’m kidding it’s actually next month.
    Chubby6: You lied to me!
    Me: Yeah, blah (whatever excuse)
    Chubby6: I wonder what your girlfriend thinks.
    Me: She’s fine with it (smirk)

    Ask her if she dances, twirl, rinse repeat. (Getting kind of old, I’m gonna probably do other stuff now).

    I do the Tyler carry move, but I dunno, doesn’t really work this time. She’s like heavy but I act like she’s light and then she’s like “wow, that’s… very aggressive. That’s very aggressive.”

    Me: Uhh… yeah, I work out.
    The other chicks roll in and it’s me and this dude and seven chicks. I small talk with the other ladies, cold read one of em from suburbs. Intros me to wife again, she’s all over me. Definitely could’ve made out with her here, but didn’t. She’s drunk, and as she’s talking I’m like “wtf… how is all this shit happening so fast… is this really happening?”

    AverageSuburb: Let’s dance!

    I get the dude to come to the dancefloor with us and it’s going fine, but he’s awkward and dance kind of away from us. So I try to invite him in and he’s like, nervous and shit. So I can tell the vibe is shifting. I jump in the circle of ladies, try and spike them, but I feel like it’s not going much anywhere. So I just leave, cuz I’m like “I’m not waiting for this to get lame.” Probably should’ve stayed.

    I leave the club, continue gaming solo. AlphaWing texts, says he left with his friends instead. So I’m guaranteed to be alone all night… I’m kind of like “uh, maybe I’ll call some RSD peeps” No answer with any of em lol

    So I’m like shit, whatever.

    And this is where shit gets FUCKING HILARIOUS (I turn into fucking Scray lol)

    For backstory, I ran into my friend (girl, not interested, dated a good friend of mine) in another neighborhood and she was with these dudes. Basically cut the line with them thanks to bouncer connection (which is probably dead now since I haven’t talked to him since lol dammit — i’ll say whats up next time I’m there) and ever since then… her friend’s been treating me like fucking god or something.

    So I’m walking down and then the dude (Nigerian) approaches me and like, him and my college friend are apart of this big group of med students who are out. I join them and the dudes are all like “so I hear you can talk to any girl” I’m just like sure (LOL). I approach a mixed group and like, same shit. Girls like me, guy is like, frozen. I approach the whole group, focus on target, she has bf, switch to cuter other girl I didn’t notice before (actually said that before I resumed the sarge “oh shit, you’re pretty cute, sorry I’m focused on her right now tho — you like it rough don’t you — it’s okay, I like it like that too lol”), then I eject cuz the med students kept walking.

    They’re like “how did you do that.” I walked up and said what’s up. Lol

    The Nigerian dude’s like, freaking out about how cool I am (LOLing as I’m writing this) and like, the dude’s are amazed blah blah blah. I approach two blondes and then another blonde shuts me down whatever… they’re still amazed.

    Problem is I start talking about game and then they’re like bored lol And then I’m like shit, is this my ego fucking shit up for me. So I shut that off and just be social.

    And then, I see this cute indian chick from the last house party I was at. She recognizes me (she’s drunk) and rips my shirt open (it’s like, detachable buttons, no actual damage lol) and she gives me an open wine bottle. I drink, bouncers kick us out (it’s illegal to have that). And then the Indian chick just like, hugs me and shit (only met her once before). Asks me for my number… I’m like sure.

    “Write your full name, everything!”
    “Ask my college friend, she knows.”

    The asian dude (they’re friends apparently) comforting her is like… usurped by me without any effort lol I think he got jealous.

    Anyway, other dudes asking for advice. The night ends up with the main Nigerian dude asking for my number, wants to hang, I say sure. Everyone goes home to sleep, and it’s me and these two Nigerian dudes, and Nigerian girls. I’ve never hung out with people who are the same country of origin before so that was pretty cool (they’re FOBs, I’m American born).

    The two chicks are ALL OVER MY FUCKING DICK JEEZUS. I’m like “sigh, stop hitting me” in my mind (cuz the Nigerian dude is into one of the girls and I’m dude, you could get her easy — not trying to cockblock).

    We go to this country bar. I hit on the girls there, rejections all around. The Nigerian chicks get annoyed (I can tell) cuz I’m not hitting on them and like, I’m hitting on all the white chicks around me (and the two other black ones). Nigerian chick accuses me of like, liking only white chicks (such BS, I like ALL races… just look sexually attractive, is that too much to ask?). I wasn’t even into these chicks so whatever.

    Basically night ends with me heading home and us parting ways. The girls seemed mad I ignored them. Whatever.

    Saturday… lol… such a dumbass on this day, seriously. Basically lost an almost guaranteed lay cuz I reverted back to old behaviors.

    So my wings are out (yay!) but like… somehow it just made the night worse.

    I’m about to pass out, I’ll upload Saturday and Sunday portions tomorrow.

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    • Saturday FR-

      Saturday night, I find UKWing and GingerWing already out. And I pretty much think I’m gonna kill it tonight (also got a model’s number on the train the night before, fucked it up tho, told me don’t text her ever again lol whoops).

      But yeah a lot of shitty shit happens instead.

      We’re a group of five dudes. I’m approaching… everyone else is kinda like, trying to be chill. Kinda weird. Though GingerWing told me to chill out, I was pretty excited. I’m just hitting girls up, trying to warm up. Somehow I get stuck with UKWing (which I was initially excited for… but he never night games, so he was nervous).

      GingerWing tries to approach some girl. She keeps walking. “Fine bitch” he says. The other dudes in our group laugh. “Positive vibes man, it’s fine.” I say.

      So we get separated and it’s me and UKWing. I’m feeling a bit nervous now, mostly because he is. I approach a 2-set (busty blonde with who I thought was her mom):

      Me: Hey, is that your mom?
      NotMom: Are you joking? (she looked like shit so…)
      Me: Uhhhhhh, yeahhhhhhhh?
      NotMom: You’re disgusting. Let’s go.
      HB8.5: They’re not going our way anyway.

      Whoops.

      Approach another mixed set, 3 girls, one dude. I hop in.

      Me: Hey ladies, want to be my wives? Let’s have a polygamous relationship (I pull in the two lesser girls). You (to the 9) let’s do it.
      HB9: Um…
      Me: Oh you’re the judgey one huh? (to HB7) You’re the confident one.
      HB9: (Patronizing laugh)
      Me (to RetainerHB7): And you’re a singer!
      Retainer: How am I a signer?
      Me: Am I wrong?
      HB9: I mean, she’s confident but…
      Retainer: My voice is all nasally so it’s surprising that I’d be-
      Me: Okay so you’re a nerd.
      Retainer: But like, how could I be a singer if my voice isn’t that great to begin with?
      Me: Welp…
      (they’re inching away)
      Me: Alright then have a good one!

      FAIL. Dude didn’t even say anything, he’s just some awkward Asian dude.

      So I spent a bunch of time “out of state” (I get in state just by talking so I don’t rely rely on “trying” to get into it), but UKWing isn’t helping. I’m trying to pump him up but he’s not giving me much back. I begin to regret going out with anyone.

      We approach another bachelorette party group. Small talk, eject. We head into another bar.

      UKWing does open a bunch of sets tho. I congratulate him on opening groups and some 2-sets.

      I begin to get antsy. “Where’s GingerWing and the other guys?”

      UKWing: It’s better if we split up so we don’t have to move in a big group.
      Me: Uh, sure.

      And I dunno, from then on, I’m just not into the night. I’d rather have gone out alone tbh, so I can create the chaos that was last night (or rather push it into a much more chaotic level).

      Then I see this two-set on the street. I approach, one of them goes back inside the bar. The girl is drunk, but wants to talk.

      HB7.5: (some words)
      Me: (some greeting)
      HB7.5: I have some DDs (puffs out chest, opens vest)
      Me: (tit grope)
      HB7.5: (swats my hand away) You think I’m easy don’t you?
      Me: What you think I’m easy? Are you checking out my privates?
      HB7.5: Only my dad would say the word “privates.”
      Me: Do you smoke weed?
      HB7.5: oF cOURSE.
      Me: Where is it?
      HB7.5: Back at my hotel.
      Me: (stick my arm out for her to take) let’s smoke weed then.
      HB7.5: My friends are still in there.
      Me: Well maybe you should join them then.
      HB7.5: (storms off like I told her to fuck off)

      Me:… uh…. (to UKWing)
      UKWing: Dude, she was into you!
      Me: Uh… yeah I know… well I was… trying to do push/pull! I know, I suck… sigh wtf!

      Even more annoying was that I watched RSD Todd’s video on “baby-stepping the pull to close” and it was like I never watched it (all memory went OUT THE WINDOW).

      I have this bad habit of criticizing myself if things don’t go write. So I can try not to repeat my mistakes next time.

      So for the majority of the night, I’m like, out of it. I declare the night done.

      GingerWing had already bailed to do his own thing with the two other guys, I dunno. He and the other dudes do this thing where they just leave without telling anybody… not hard to text, jeez.

      So I’m like, alright where are you (through text) and he says this club. We spend the next 20 mins looking for it. UKWing is just silent (kind of annoying cuz he’s always sort of awkward like this. Just says nothing (?).

      Like, being low energy is okay, but if you’re speaking so low people can’t hear you half the time, you’re not low-energy, you’re being annoying.

      And then at the end of the night he says the game is boring. I just want to have fun. Like, if you’re asking “who are you, where are you from, what do you do” right off the bat in a barely audible monotone voice, how the fuck do you expect the game to be fun? You’re not bringing any energy into it, you’re not getting the girl to react, you’re just boring yourself in every interaction.

      Anyway, went a little ahead of myself there. UKWing opens some girls. I’m not feeling okay, headspace-wise, they ask what’s wrong. I blame my tight shirt. They tell me to relax. Set ends, Alan approaches on the dancefloor. Blown out.

      We head to this last club. I’m opening girls with “I think you’re sexy,” works well.
      HB8 in sight looking fit. I approach with “I had to tell you, I think you’re really sexy. Wanted to say hi.”
      HB8: “Look, I have a boyfriend.”
      I try to get physical anyway (putting her arm around my neck), she goes “No, no he’s right there.” (very near)
      Me: Oh, it’s okay.
      Girls like her used to just ignore or give me the back turn. Awesome.

      So I then end up approaching this 9 in a mixed set. Here goes:

      Me: Hey, I thought you were sexy. Are you Polish? (guess)
      HB9Busty: Yes.
      Me: Great, I like Polish girls. Do you work out?
      HB9: …
      Me: …So yeah, I think that’s cool. 😀
      HB9: … (looks away)
      Me: (shit, I’m thinking)
      Big muscley dude comes in. I go:
      Me: Hey man, this your girl?
      Muscles: Nah dude, go for it.
      Me: Oh, no it’s fine.
      Muscles: No dude seriously, go for it. (I know at this point, I’m done)
      Me: Okay (to HB9) nice meeting you (bolt)

      Jeez, these 9’s…

      So then, UKWing approaches group, I occupy Pakistani chick:
      Me: Hey, this is the part where I hit on you.
      6… or 5 (She looked hotter in the club): Lol that’s so funny.
      Me: Yeah, I’m a comedian. You look like you like rough sex.
      5: LOL
      Me: Yeah, on the outside you’re all nice and sweet, but on the inside, you’re icy cold.
      5: You know you’re right 🙂
      Me: I’m more into making love. You know how to cook? Cuz you know you’re making breakfast tomorrow right?
      5: (Other shit)
      Me: So what do you do? (comfort)

      Talking about sex, more boring shit…

      5: Well looks like we’re leaving.
      Me: Alright cool then.
      5: This is the perfect opportunity for you to get my number.
      Me: Okay sure.

      Get her number and then I text. Text exchange:

      Me: Are you still up? We were supposed to have breakfast tomorrow? 😉
      5: Well if I sleep now, I won’t wake up for breakfast. Unless you think of a way to wake me up 😉
      Me: Well if you were next to me, id know what to do 🙂
      5: Oh yeah? Well maybe I’ll have to find my way next to you then some time
      Me: Make your way over to me then
      5: For a guy who likes to make love, you sure have some game. I like it 😉 And don’t let the rough exterior fool you, you gotta feed a girl first to get some
      Me: Compliments will get you everywhere 😉 Come tomorrow if you want me to feed you
      5: Going to be in bed till 2, what about you

      Aaaand that’s done.

      And then went to another neighborhood and stayed in the bars until closing. Went into this mixed set, but eh, nothing happened. I would’ve been one of the girl’s friends if she weren’t from out of town. Oh well.

      So that’s Saturday. I’ll wrap up Sunday pretty quickly.

      I text her she might not get any sleep so I hope you had a good one. I tell her to meet me at a coffee shop (near my place). She comes. I try to “dance” with her on the street, she doesn’t comply. Walk around after she buys us coffee a few times. She says she wants to see my place. Tells me (repeatedly) we’re not having sex. You’re not getting any tonight. We chat for a bit, have a sip of beer. Go down to my room and makeout on my bed. But…

      The problem was I didn’t really feel into her. We madeout but like, I wasn’t turned on. Tried to get her hand on my crotch, wouldn’t let me. Didn’t really try and turn her one tho… that was probably the issue. She was also on her period… ugh.

      I just let her leave, ultimately.

      All in all a good reference. I don’t think I’ll text her again tho, I’m just not attracted to her. She used to be overweight, insecure about her body, sigh…

      I want a tight-bodied girl bros. But this also taught me a lesson:

      Learn how to turn on your girl. I did like, zero foreplay.

      Also, I say “dude” a lot (girls give me shit for it lol).

      Thus ends the great weekend. Learned a lot, broke some new barriers. Excited for what’s in store. And Vegas in two weeks, just about!

      Yes! My first pull… the first of many! 😀

      Game actually does work 🙂 I’m feeling more confident then I ever have before. And it’s all thanks to my fellow puas (you know who you are!). Thank you. I’m not done yet tho… I want to seal the deal lol

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      • @hunter

        Good stuff man. I see a lot of growth in your interactions in a short period of time. Keep plugging away. You seem quick witted, you can totally kill with that, just be sure and calibrate. tease, be funny, keep the negs light.

        You need to work on building rapport. How is your posture, eye contact, demeanor? Try out more story telling or getting her to open up in a non interview way…

        Also with your style I would not concern myself with newbie wings… they will just hold you back. Just go out by yourself and make the most of it.

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      • @sentient

        Thanks man, I appreciate it!

        “You need to work on building rapport. How is your posture, eye contact, demeanor? Try out more story telling or getting her to open up in a non interview way…”

        Which interaction are you referring to specifically? My comfort/rapport has actually gotten a lot better since I’ve chilled out.

        “Also with your style I would not concern myself with newbie wings… they will just hold you back. Just go out by yourself and make the most of it.”

        Yeah, true. I think UKWing’s problem is that he’s still under the mindset of RSD (approach all) but never studies/breaks down shit so he’s jaded that his results have been sucking.

        He’s heading back to the UK anyway so it’ll be a non-issue soon enough 🙂

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      • “You need to work on building rapport. How is your posture, eye contact, demeanor? Try out more story telling or getting her to open up in a non interview way…”

        Which interaction are you referring to specifically? My comfort/rapport has actually gotten a lot better since I’ve chilled out.

        I mean it seems you are so machine gun and having very brief interactions in all of them, like sub one minute… You seem to open OK but are too staccato… How is your posture and eye contact? what does this sub communicate? You may want to slow things down some more.

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      • @Sentient

        “How is your posture and eye contact? what does this sub communicate? You may want to slow things down some more.”

        My postures fine. Eye contact could use some work… but you’re right, I think the only longish interaction was the bachelorette thing. I was with them for 15 mins.

        Maybe I could try to slow things down some more. Or at the very least, stick in there.

        It’s just that there weren’t really many I wanted to stick with. Is the purpose of going out to get as many interactions as possible or stay in a group the whole night?

        I’ve wondered that.

        As for negs, I don’t use them. Straight up insulted the model’s face (‘you’ve got a vein there hehe, your ass is okay (after she showed me pictures)) thinking I was negging.. hmm.

        There were definitely girls I wanted to fuck walking around, but it’s street and I’m still not the best at leading. In none of these interactions do I successfully lead the girls anywhere.

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      • EDIT: Except for the last interaction, I led that.

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  57. I’m gonna go ahead and post a comment regarding the brain differences in human males and females that have been proven by science and that bring to light the many ‘differences’ or truths behind human sexual nature.

    First and foremost, to put to sleep all of the nooby pouters who stress over the myth that male looks are a huge huge factor in the sexual market one can analyze the complexities of our brain. CH posted an article that I forwarded about the ‘amygdala’ and how, based on MRI analysis of the brain, more blood was rushed to this part in males than females when given sexy visual cues. The amygdala (look it up) controls motivation and emotion in humans (read: boner or vagina tingles). So this is first-hand evidence and simple proof: men get motivated more by visual stimuli (sexy ass and tits) than women do from visual stimuli (maybe a buff dude or something).

    “Numerous studies have demonstrated that men are more psychologically and physiologically responsive to visual sexually arousing stimuli and display a greater motivation to seek out and interact with such stimuli (Symons 1979). This specific sex difference is predicted by evolutionary and sociobiological theories that postulate that it is adaptive for males to react rapidly to visual information that signals an opportunity to mate with a fertile female because this tends to increase their probability of passing on their genes. Because of the greater maternal investment in time and resources for childbearing, a similar rapid arousal response to visual stimuli is not adaptive for females.”

    From a girl’s brain,

    “…In contrast to men, there was a lack of significant activity in the bilateral amygdala and the hypothalmus for women in response to sexually arousing photographs……..Greater activity for men in the hypothalmus (which receives substantial amygdalar output) consistent with our results……..

    Additionally,

    “…Consummatory male sexual behavior (orgasm) elicited decreased activity in only one area, the left amygdala. Similar decreases were not reported in females.”

    IF you are unaware, the amygdala controls motivation and the hypothalmus controls the “gut feelings” we have such as hunger, thirst, and SEX DRIVE. You will read from these scientific studies that women do not have a significant amount of activation in these parts of their brains when given “sexy” visual stimuli.

    The reason you see all of these ‘pretty boys’ getting girls is NOT because of the visual stimuli (their looks). Instead, it is from other GAME CONCEPTS such as ‘preselection’ and ‘confidence’. Girls will say “yeah he’s good looking and well put together” to other girls and signal ‘PRESELECTION’. It is not the visual that is causing them to open their legs, it is the preselection or confidence (other game concepts). “He is good looking” is the same as “he is sooo funny”. Flip the script, we MEN can’t say that about an ugly chick and still get a boner. Girls can b/c their ‘preselection’ is our ‘hot’.

    *CH I think it would be interesting to link the “2/3 poon commandment” with the adaptive evolutionary theory of females. Females might be more reluctant to ‘initiate’ or chase in the modern society b/c it may go against their brain-hardwiring. As in getting sexually involved with a man is more of a risk for her so she is more reluctant to chase. That’s a tough one.

    Ha an interesting comparison to what girls feel maybe is just the feeling right after you jack off that first minute a hot girl in a bikini won’t grab your eye as much.

    But, what I found most interesting about the studies was that they also showed these differences in another part of the brain: the hypothalmus, which controls consuming and “gut” behavior including sex drive.

    This topic is already scientifically proven. We should work on other things (like game) and analyze the areas that make girls’ panties wet…cause I’m trying to get laid more often over here and looks aren’t gonna do it.

    Source/link to one of the studies (done at Univ. of Penn.):

    http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/ldc/llog/Brizendine/Hamann2005.pdf

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  58. I think I need some advice or a post on “how to interact with your girls’ friends”.

    This is a girl you’ve been fucking already. And so it’s assumed she’s into you and not a slut…

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    • on August 12, 2014 at 5:41 am gunslingergregi

      yea all your girls friends will be into you if she is
      so ya should be fucking them too don’t leave em hanging they get mad

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  59. […] The Economist ran a piece about the economics of prostitution that reads like it slipped by the Hivemind perimeter defense drones under cover of night.  […]

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  60. on August 12, 2014 at 5:43 am gunslingergregi

    saw a chick that was in solitary that said she saw where my usual girl wrote she loves me all over the walls
    driving in car piece of her hair was blowing in wind off of my hand other chick in car had brown hair so wasn’t hers
    always reminders of her he he he

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  61. […] Female Beauty And The Economics Of Prostitution | Chateau Heartiste […]

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  62. I used to own a taxi and got to know a lot of hookers. The hookers choose to be hookers, some started as young as 15, they don’t have hearts of gold and instead are mercenary, none are very smart, and street walkers (especially the black ones) are bottom of the barrel.

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  63. Ladies and gentlemen take note just pure raw beauty on display…

    women are awesome…. http://35-24-35.tumblr.com/

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    • I suppose most men find those women perfect but to me they are way too skinny.

      Bony ass ain’t my thing’

      what can I say

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      • i agree. pretty girls but most of them are too thin.
        the website is called 35-24-35. does that mean they all fit that measurement? doesn’t seem right to me. i always thought that was the universal ideal for the perfect woman and if those girls fit that frame, i’m thinking that’s a bunch of hogwash.

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      • Well 35 – 24 is a .68 waist to hip ratio… 36 – 24 is .66. Actually 34 -24 hits the mythical .7…

        I wonder though if there are too many guys hitting the “fat” part of the curve, which gives the heavier 6-7’s such an overblown view of their SR.

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    • The best thing about skinny girls is they can usually be fattened up if need be.

      36 24 36 is the perfect measurements.

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      • yeah I just can’t boil a a baby in its mother’s milk either. Chaining them up and starving them is just too cruel . Psychological manipulation and feeding them a stack of butter milk and blueberry pancakes assuages one of their guilt .

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  64. on August 12, 2014 at 8:50 am JenkPac Shakur

    Dear Lord Jesus please bless our mission trip to go help the darkies of Africa learn how to become Christians and human beings. Guide us Lord and fill us with your strength so that we don’t contract the negro disease of Ebola while were over there. Also please fill the dark ones hearts and tiny brains with only thoughts of peace and joy so that they don’t rape our wives (or us) while we sleep. Amen.

    P.S: Jesus please forgive me, my immediate family and my race for the shameful sins of past racism and white priviledge and let these monkeys see that we are truly filled with your awesome glory and holiness.

    We want only the best for the dark ones and their fuzzy wuzzy little heads.
    I apologize in advance Jesus if during my prayer I did not sufficiently grovel to you but it is late here on the east coast and I’ve got to resist my sinful inclination to dream about about being racially cuckolded by 300 pound muscled up black bucks named Tyrone with 12 inch monster penises who often call me a “Little Anderson Cooper sissy boy beyotch” as they piledrive my wife’s anus into submission while she screams in delight.

    You see Jesus? My sin isn’t hatred for these negroes who are defiling my wife’s anal cavity and producing sounds of pleasure out of her that I with my meager manhood never could, but the sin I confess is that I wish, I wish Jesus that during these dreams that I were in my wife’s place.

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  65. “You’re such a Pollyanna. I bet you kiss prostitues!” – Patrick Stewart, as CIA Deputy Dirctor Avery Bullock

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  66. Glad to see that the numbers back up Roosh’s (and my) observation about the dating market being worse in Toronto than DC.

    DC may suck, but Toronto swallows.

    http://www.rooshv.com/15-reasons-why-toronto-is-the-worst-city-in-north-america-for-men

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  67. “It’s disturbing that the cuckoldry fetish appears to be on the rise in Western megalopolises. Could this self-annihilating, self-castrating psychological disorder be caused by a parasite?”

    Two more parsimonious explanations than the parasite theory (parasite theories always sound wack to me):

    1) Nietzsche accounted for much of our seemingly self-defeating behavior with his maxim, Man would rather will nothingness than *not will*. A weaker guy with a slutty wife would rather pacify his ego by convincing himself he’s into his wife fucking other guys since it’s gonna happen anyway.

    2) A closeted friend of mine who’s in to cuckoldry divulged, “I’m trying to be normal and it comes out in this weird fetish.” He tells of wanting to suck a dude’s load out of his girl “like a Boston creme doughnut.” Sometimes it’s simply that the guy has homo tendencies.

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  68. Whorefinder will only kiss his johns if the are pro-immigration.

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    • on August 12, 2014 at 4:26 pm The Spirit Within

      I heard he gives it away for free to black guys, though.

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    • I’ve often chided whorefinder and PA for the ongoing incessant sniping… and I have to admit, I faulted whorefinder to a greater extend, which was unfortunate since his instincts were otherwise sound… snark irony about rape aside.

      But I gotta tell y’all… when Foreskin Ranger jumps in on your side, it’s time to reevaluate one’s stance.

      Now avaunt, for a week or so… ye threads… ye thimbles… ye impertinent jackanapeses…

      Ye… aw, fergit it.

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  69. Reblogged this on Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar and commented:
    They should go ahead and legalize it before the economy completely tanks, a lot of women will need to earn their food on their backs and prison would be a pointless punishment.

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  70. on August 14, 2014 at 4:59 pm AryanAbduction

    Good to see a post that is more or less about Dvorak’s law

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  71. on August 14, 2014 at 5:15 pm AryanAbduction

    Holy shit if this topic didn’t turn into a giant septic tank of 888ery

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  72. on August 18, 2014 at 3:14 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    <>
    I know a few people who did the whole sharing the hoe routine and they did it because they thought it would be fun to treat a hooker badly together. Let’s be serious here, nobody feels cuckolded because other men use the same prostitute. Them being your friend shouldn’t make you feel worse. Otoh, I don’t get visiting prostitutes anyway. All the fake profiles, all the hassle of finding one that isn’t neither ugly nor fake, then finding one that doesn’t ask for hundreds an hour etc. Might as well go to a war and pump some slut full of drinks and take her home.

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  73. on August 18, 2014 at 3:22 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    Being Eastern European, I’d say that most prostitutes that we exported do it willingly too. The trafficked whores are usually Gypsy women trafficked by Gypsy men and some naive broads that think someone will get them a nice work free job overseas – since you know, when it’s too good to be true, it is.

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