The Era Of The Apex Alpha

Men throughout history have known that the top dog attracts women. They saw it when their wives made shiny eyes at the circus ringleader. They saw it when politicians came around to give stump speeches. They saw it in school when the athletic boy or the dangerous boy magically acquired a doting harem of admirers, like some Poon Piper.

So the fact of female hypergamy wasn’t a mystery to at least a large minority of men, even if those men couldn’t put to words what they were seeing. There had to always have been a sense among the common man that women feel an instinctive attraction to powerful men. But that sense was circumscribed by the limited availability of provocations which could stimulate unrestrained raw desire in women. There weren’t that many powerful men to go around in, say, 1850 America, and of those there were, the communication mediums to transmit their sexy power to potential throngs of adoring female fans didn’t exist in any meaningful form. If a powerful man passed through your small town, you were one of the few (un)fortunate local men to witness first-hand how women would veritably kneel before this exotic stranger from afar.

That all changed with the advent of rapid transportation, radio, TV, and stadium amplification.

Commenter Chairman of the Board excerpts,

“What Girls Want: Seventy Years of Pop Idols and Audiences”

“When former bobby-soxers remember Frankie of the bow-tie years, they emphasize that the Voice was seductive. Janice Booker saw her generation of bobby-soxers using Sinatra to express the beginnings of feelings otherwise inexpressible. Writes Booker, “[h]e was safe because he was unattainable; unattainable because he was a celebrity, and unavailable because he was married with children” (74). [ed: laughable. sinatra’s marriage wasn’t stoking sexual frenzy in his female fans.] Martha Lear recalls a feeling less proto-sexual and more actively sexual: “Whatever he stirred beneath our barely budding breasts, it wasn’t motherly. And the boys knew that and that was why none of them liked him, none except the phrasing aficionados… [T]he thing we had going with Frankie was sexy. It was exciting. It was terrific” (48).

In the highly restrictive prevailing sexual mores of the 1940s, girls’ options for exploring their sexuality were severely limited. Through movies, radio shows, and popular novels, girls were taught that sexual intercourse was for marriage only. Their own magazine, Seventeen, instructed girls to be extraordinarily careful about the liberties they allowed their dates to take; the magazine advised against necking and petting—and anything further down the line was definitely out of the question. Discouraged from loving in private, teenage girls did love in public—they loved their Frankie, fiercely, unashamedly, loudly. They made a spectacle out of themselves, they made a star out of Frank Sinatra, and they made a social space into which generations of girls following would continue to scream and faint.”

Right around mid-20th Century America, the era of the apex alpha male began, an era that could rightfully be called something new on the scene, for there were few comparable eras in human history, save for ancient empires ruled by khans on horse and emperors in palaces.

Reader PA writes about one mid-century American apex alpha,

Another bullet to DoBA’s list of [Charles] Manson’s accomplishments — the girls stayed loyal to him through their own murder trials. They didn’t plea bargain or confess for a sentencing deal.

I wonder… a decade earlier Presley set off a mass hysteria just by shaking his hips. The Beatles had girls scream-ovulating. Was there a … female hunger in apex-America that some musicians and sociopaths tapped into. Their success suggests a low hanging fruit effect. No rocker today makes girls scream quite like that.

Mid-century America — circa 1940-1970 — was the time of the “Great Compression”. Economic and social equality were high among whites; the American Beta Male was in the primacy of his rule. All that equality is a turn-off for women; it’s bad business for female desire. There must have been a craving among young women during that time period for a big cheese, a kingpin, an aristocrat, a head honcho, a cult leader, a proto-Obama… a man who stood shoulders above other men. A…. rock star.

If the sexes were reversed, that time in America, (if you’ll allow me a loose-fitting analogy), would look like a time of great equality among dumpy plain janes, and no stand-out beauties to inspire men to reach for greatness. It’s not a great analogy, because, well, it’s hard to imagine any culture in which men faint in the presence of a hard 10. Abject veneration of HSMV members of the opposite sex is primarily the wont of the female of the human species.

Imagine how the masses of mild-mannered, provider beta males experienced mid-century America: Their shock and confusion watching their best women literally throw themselves at pop culture icons, begging to give their sex away for free to unapologetic cads. This was something new, something beyond the conventional wisdom about female nature, and it must have royally fucked with the heads of men. What lesson did our mid-Century forefathers learn? It wasn’t an idealistic one. In twenty years, a Western civilization’s worth of pussy-propping pedestals got knocked over, never to stand upright again.

Commenter Arbiter writes,

this is something I often make a point of, and it’s one of those things that move people’s circles. Women screamed and fainted at Beatles concerts. Men never screamed and fainted at Madonna concerts.

Feminists say behavior is programmed by capitalist media, for whatever reason that would be. But what media ever told women to scream at concerts? None. What media ever told men not to do so? None. Feminists can at the most claim that women “are made to desire the men in the band”, but the screaming would be completely unnecessary for that purpose.

Those who claim media can mold raw sexual desire are either lying or old and so far removed from their youthful yearnings that they have forgotten what it’s like to experience a sudden rush of lust for, if a man, a cute girl or, if a woman, a socially popular man. No media was responsible for that first thermonuclear blast of lust when my stripling teenage eyes saw the red-headed girl’s pert tits and round ass in a whole new light. That was a fire that started deep inside, and has smoldered there since.

So it is with women. Their hypergamy isn’t a media creation; it’s God’s creation. The media at best can only poke and prod the dangerous beast from its slumber.

So what lessons did our mid-century beta males take to heart as they had to endure watching pathetically from a corner their women en masse essentially cuckolding them with their ids (and many with more than that). As the romantic insults piled higher, I bet America’s beta males — some of whom invented space exploration and high def porn — began to share a general outlook on life and on women.

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchens deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour TV’s

Now look at them yo-yo’s that’s the way you do it
You play the guitar on the MTV
That ain’t workin’ that’s the way you do it
Money for nothin’ and chicks for free

The Sexual Devolution of the late 60s was as much or more a reaction of men to the change in their women’s comportment as it was a protest by women against cultural restrictions on their sexuality. The Kraken was released from its subterranean prison in women’s hindbrains, and once surfaced it wrought psychological destruction on a mass scale. Profoundly disillusioned and not a little nauseated, salt-of-the-earth mid-century men must’ve thought, “And I’m supposed to slave away for something these yapping faggots are getting younger, hotter, tighter, and for free?!”

It’s an irony of human experience that the golden ages of great civilizations, the heights of their power, immediately precede their sudden and rapid collapses. It’s becoming clearer with time that America’s Golden Age was the 20th Century, a Golden Age which coincided with a Golden Boy Age, and that had our fatherly forebears the wisdom they would have more readily perceived the omens in two generations of their women prostrating themselves in worshipful sexual abandon at the feet of the apex alpha demigods of the day.





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  1. on December 27, 2014 at 8:53 am Whomever Wherever

    Wolves are better than dogs at COUNTING: Wild canines identify the number of items more often than their domesticated cousins http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2883974/Wolves-better-dogs-COUNTING-Wild-canines-identify-number-items-domesticated-cousins.html

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    • on December 27, 2014 at 8:58 am Whomever Wherever

      You can be the Wolf, or you can be the Chihuhua. You can be the lean mean fighting machine who has his choice of wolf pussy or coyote pussy or fox pussy or venturing out of the hills and down into the valley for some domesticated dog pussy. Or you can be the fat schlub housebroken Beta loser who doesn’t get any pussy at all because the Veterinarian cut off his balls. Your choice. You decide.

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      • I love reading comments like this – after countless posts and comments agonizing over what to say or what to text to a female, to win her approval.

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      • So be evil or lukewarm…funny you never mention the third choice.

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      • Among humans, the white man is the wolf. Which is why they’re trying to get rid of him.

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      • The white man is lion.

        all the time.

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      • At least when the white man lies, he tends to blush… other races lie shamelessly, and consider it shrewd sport.

        Getting the truth out of YT can be like trying to catch a cuckoo in the woods…

        … but getting the coloured to tell the truth is like trying to catch the echo of the cuckoo’s call.

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      • “Among humans, the white man is the wolf.”

        xD xD

        Never change.

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      • Earl,

        Please tell us more about the third choice.

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      • The third choice is the reason why David was able to beat Goliath.

        https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+17+%3A41-49&version=NASB

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 10:35 am Whomever Wherever

        David who so badly wanted to dip it in Bathsheba that he arranged for her husband to be murdered? LOL’ed. If you’re enamored of dogs, and if you want to make a MORAL [rather than an amoral] point about them, then you need to appeal to Matthew 15: http://www.bartleby.com/108/40/15.html#S81

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      • Oh so you are aware of scripture…so what about dogs is Matthew 15 pointing out?

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      • last night me and a buddy went to a bar here in brazil. The place was pretty full but I was able to locate a table with two women at it and I just went the fuck over and sat down next to them lol. That’s a two number night.

        I believe I can get any woman in this country. Chicks can smell that. At the lunch table today some young girl with her mom, beautiful eyes, my 2 friends are looking her up, I just grab her attention and say “such beautiful eyes.” She says thanks in a sweet tone. My friends are sort of taken aback, embarrassed a bit, holy crap, what now kinda looks. They were too scared to take up the baton. I tapped the table and said ciao and her old mom I even flashed her a smile and she smiled back.

        Yesterday at a resort pool some hot young thing, they are all over here 15, 16, 17, gorgeous, and I walked over to a girl in the pool who had a drink, the one in her group, said “oi…” got her attention, “salud” toasted her drink and walked off. My buddy was over there like NFW. The girl was all abuzz…I took her hamster wheel and gave it a giant spin and just walked away. Even her mom was smiling. Women here like to see sexual interest in their daughters. They like being women.

        Just don’t give a fuck and just DO shit. S America is so far removed from the game of chasing rats in the USA and the goods are better. You can have a 16 yr old 10 here if that’s your thing. If you frustrated guys are having struggles, it’s time to spend some time elsewhere in the world to recalibrate. I got a blowjob on the airplane down here from a girl I met maybe 30 mins prior. The attitude is MILES apart from bitchy, self-entitled wymyn with fake rape accusations.

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 9:00 pm Whomever Wherever

        > “so what about dogs is Matthew 15 pointing out?”

        Wolf don’t get no doggy treats. Wolf don’t get to sleep in da Big House. Wolf don’t get no pet grooming salon. Wolf don’t go to no Westminster Kennel Show. Wolf jus get da pussy. Da’ss all. Jus da pussy.

        tldr; == You cannot worship both Mammon and pussy.

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 9:01 pm Whomever Wherever

        “Just don’t give a fuck and just DO shit.” God only gives you one shot at this life. You might as well make the most of it.

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      • Trav777 just got the nail on the head. America has been systematically broken by YKW. If the white man wishes to survive, he needs to stop trying to put his eggs in one basket. There’s a whole world out there, and unless you have a solid reason to stay in America, don’t.

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  2. These beta makes are fervently sowing the seeds of their own destruction to this day. My conservative friends, married cops, govt officials, judges, etc. pass around (white girl) porn more than anyone else. In other words, they’re celebrating their own cuckolding. Their sexual hunger trumps their sense of duty when it comes to women. Then they complain about how the left, Obama, and Hillary are ruining the country. They’re completely unaware of their own hypocrisy.

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  3. For now in this soft society, faking alpha is just as good, perhaps better than real alpha, in that you cannot be tested – conflict is nearly removed.

    We live this hyper-feminized society, where apology and placating is better than action, where up is down, and where even history is so distorted that the germans were the ‘evil nazi bad guys’ in ww2.

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    • My impression, only an impression, is that the PUA ‘golden age’ of faking alpha is ending or has ended. What works has changed certainly. It is hard to keep up appearances with the police just outside or at 911; with a shortage of wealth, respect, and pussy (alpha can’t service all that waits for him); and with women who will test your dominance by hitting you in public. Guys are more gang-like, or maybe I just illicit that response more now, but there is definite territorial conflict and few attractive women. I think one has to carefully calibrate physical dominance that is tested by women, men competing for pussy, and bureaucratic authority figures who stake out our lives as their turf. Chicks are hungry for men who actually have personal authority. The police are in some sense emasculated proto-Praetorian Guard and mannish Janes, so it is often a joke. Lots of authority and no real men.

      I wonder how most guys see it. Faking works? I definitely consider how far I can escalate a show of (physical) dominance, which is usually less than I’d like. Seems to me chicks like to go where they are ‘safe’ under the care of a platonic (preferably gov) authority (moonlighting cops), incredibly hypergamous, but I have limited data to go by where I am.

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    • Does no-one get there arse kicked in America these days?

      I go out and start giving it the big one to the wrong guy, it’s not going to end well.

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      • That’s what’s wrong with America these days… there’s no immediate consequence for being an asshole.

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      • It goes…

        Immediate consequences for nice guys and white knights.
        Consequences down the road for assholes.
        Reward for their trials for the third set of guys.

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  4. Media made it easier to broadcast ourselves to many people. The thing is that female beauty is more easily broadcast than anything masculine. A picture suffices. The most attractive women in this era are now also celebrities just by virtue of being beautiful. That can be detrimental to women, because now men can more easily make comparisons. If anything, the unsocial manner that men can find images of women I think might be worse for men than women throwing themselves at one or two stars. A few days back there was an article in nyt that came out about stanford. I am a big fan of peter thiel and the article focuses on him and his class. It laments the lack of women in tech. See how many red pill topics you can find embedded in a leftist’s article and try to fathom how they twist reality to draw absurd conclusions. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/23/us/100000003252545.app.html?_r=0

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  5. Fun fact: those Dire Straits lyrics came from something the singer overheard a box store employee saying as he gazed at display TVs.

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    • And another: that song used to contain the word “faggot”. Good luck finding that version of the song anymore…

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      • Yep

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      • That’s them edgy DJ rock n’ rollers for ya. Born to be wild, and all that.

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      • From memory: See that faggot with his earrings and makeup, can’t believe that faggot is for real. That little faggot rides his own jet plane, that little faggot is a millionaire. We gotta install microwave ovens….

        I wasn’t aware the song had been changed. It’s like in 1984, anything unapproved in writings from the past is erased and replaced. There are many, many details removed from music history alone. The end result is a black-and-white view of history.

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    • Gotta love the letter about the poor girl (hooking for tuition) “targeted” by “predators.”

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      • Prudence = Emily Yoffe… ’nuff said.

        New shorthand for this forum, perhaps others:

        EFT… every fuckin’ time.

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      • TJB;EFT

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      • EFT…Anti-Gentilism.

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      • “Predators”, that word so well liked by our favorite sadist.

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      • “She came to you because she is in distress over the mess she’s in. “

        Or more likely subtly fishing for more customers.

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      • I also listened to the phone call followup where the nontenured dweeb white knight (who swallowed (ha!) the little ho’s story). Continued to blather in blue pill ineptitude.

        TL;DR gist – dweeb left and had to move to LA. Nothing was proven and his tenured boss and other professors are still working. Surprise! wasn’t much to the little ho’s story after all.

        Here’s an object lesson of what NOT to do when a girly type tells you a salacious sob story. DON’T do anything. I mean don’t talk don’t write don’t do anything. In fact it’s probably a good idea to deliberately misremember the entire conversation. Because if you report you are f’ed. If you don’t report and she does later implicating you as one she confided your non-report can be grounds for civil and perhaps criminal charges. (which is why the harlots love to get white knights to do their dirty work)

        In my experience the girly ho was not actually “confiding” in this nontenured fine arts professor. Actually she was marketing her services. lol
        Professor Student sex happens on campus. It happens so much that I am surprised it does not get exposed more. In my pre red pill days I was convinced that the little girls were getting taken advantage of too. But later as wisdom and red pill knowledge, and having ring side seats to ladies using HR policy to get cash and prizes has hardened me.

        Girls know how to manipulate and use white knights. And if you ever find yourself in an ethical dilemma due to a gal “confiding” in you… Just realize you got tagged as a sucker white knight.

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      • @ang

        Spot on… this was the girl putting out her open for business sign, you can tell she is inexperienced at this because she advertised to a beta who could not take her up on her offer. Just another girl out “seeking arrangements”.

        I’m telling you you cannot go out as an older guy without these trollops opening you looking for business. My conversations with girls like this (limited to upscale enviornments so factor that in) boil down to they say they usually choose guys they would be fucking anyway so why not make something out of it as well.

        They are easy to spot in the wild however. Usually work in pairs, a blond and a brunette. One older and one younger. I think they do this for protection as well as covering all their bases in terms of variety (maybe they split tips hehe). The real pros will just come right out with it and say they are looking to party and some light kino on you and will cut to the chase in terms of $ right away. Some of the best looking women I have ever seen have been high end escorts, so spending a little time with them is not unpleasant. I’m not one to pay though and turning a girl out to make her Lexus payment into a freebie is no easy task.

        Since I’m not going to pay and know what’s up, I just use them for self amusement and preselection. At a recent upscale hotel, see two come in, a slim 20 YO tall brunette and a short hot 30 YO green eyed blond with a button nose, ex cheerleader turns out. They are sitting next to me an eye coding me. I am positive they are on the make, and decide to just have some fun with them.

        eventually the blondie opens me and we get into some conversation, I sit between them and game them hard, which they love. Since I could really not care less and know what’s coming I am in total self amusement mode and end up just cracking them up saying outrageous things and deflecting all their probing questions on status and wealth. Move them over to a lounge booth and start pulling them in, making out with them each, motorboating them, siting with an as cheek in each hand, having them show me their tattoos (invariably tramp stamps) and having them compare their breasts to each other and me judging by feel. They are positively cackling with laughter, not faked at all. we were all just having a fun time.

        Now this is all in the very visible corner, so to other dudes and women there (and the smoking hot staff) I look like I just met to hot women and they are wrapped around my finger. All good since I will be here all week.

        They finally get around to their pitch (a good hour or so into the night so I am sure they are not real pros) and they confirm my assumptions. Turns out they were out on a “seeking arrangement” date earlier, beta dude took them to a really expensive place for dinner, then bored them with his work tales and went all beta and asked if he could kiss one of them etc etc. They were actually too repulsed to go on with the date and were trying to salvage the night…. Too funny. I tell them I’m not one to pay, but maybe they can convince me. i throw my two thumbs up on the table (I am between them) and tell them to suck them, let me preview what I might be missing. so they go ahead. Now I am sitting here with two hot girls each blowing one of my thumbs, in the corner of this lounge in full view.

        They stop and I say impressive but not convinced yet. I walk them out to the valet arms around each, they get their car and I slap their asses goodbye and wish them well ” I hope you find the arrangement you seek… I’m off to bed on my 1200 thread count sheets, enjoy your ride back to whatever trailer you came from” all said good laughingly in jest. They laugh an head off.

        All in all just a fun time, allowed me to go 100% no fucks and just push things, treat them like whores with hearts of gold and all that.

        Fucking women…

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    • Oy vey! Emily always writes a good bit! The shiksas love it!

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    • look at that sneer on her face

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    • Anti-Gentilism… the term is simply “loxism.”

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      • Danka. Never heard that term.

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      • It’s not a good word. I know who came up with it and when, and I said back then that you’ll never make it stick. “We need a word for Jewish hatred of Whites” was too specific. He picked “lox” because Jews eat salmon, lox, on their holy days, but “loxism” would just mean to discriminate against salmon.

        “Leftists make up words all the time”. Yes, but “racism”, “sexism, “homophobia” consist of relevant words.

        The Right has come up with one good similar word in recent years: globalism. It’s pleasing to see it stay in use.

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    • @Sentient – very interesting report. I have a bit of experience dealing with that kind of woman and it is good to hear your perspective. I’m 34 which is on the youngish side to get that kind of approach and I look younger so I don’t get that approach much in person.

      I would surmise that it may be possible to turn that kind of contact into a non-pay thing. Harder with two at once because they reinforce each other’s frame, but if a girl was alone and had ditched a beta dude and come to a bar looking for some action..you may be able to pull it off (some similarities to gaming strippers there)

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      • Maybe a single can get turned but yeah it would be hard on a pair… Whore’s code and all that.

        Gamed a stripper once, brought her back but still thought in the back of my mind there might be some request for payment and that was enough of a turn off. I’m more about the Chase and psychological dominance, anything smacking of pay for play limits interest.

        Be interested all the same if anyone has success stories turning out a freebie. And an increasing number of these women are not real pros they are just doing it once or twice a month… It’s a real epidemic in LA and NYC at least.

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      • @Sentient – if you search for my username in the comments here you will see some reports from back in May 2014 about my initial attempts to game strippers and some responses from YaReally.

        I’ve been focussing on other things since and haven’t gone back to stripper game but it was interesting and I learned a lot that month. Also there was a really good report from another poster about how he games strippers. Think it was around the same time- he was called Balzac or something?

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      • PS – One thing I found *repeatedly* with strippers is that nothing killed a pickup faster than gaming two at once – no matter how (genuinely) interested one was, the other one would kill the frame or otherwise just not let me isolate the one who liked me.

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  6. ‘Their hypergamy isn’t a media creation; it’s God’s creation. ‘

    God’s creation was for them to desire their husband.

    The world’s creation was for them to desire anybody that gets their juices flowing and that they should fulfill those desires all the time. This despite vows, children, character, or consequences.

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    • That is a very romantic view of the sexes. Marriage used to be arranged, and desire for each other left out, which to me might mean that marriage is engineered for stability in society more than for desire of each other. Of course, any old boy worth his salt has had a look at theology and it might well be that marriage is for companionship first and foremost. I don’t know myself which it is. But regardless of marital status, I think men would be attracted to attractive women, so same goes for whatever women like. Adultery couldn’t be a sin without that. I would pick the side that hypergamy is God given and maybe reconcile it with marriage somehow.

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      • Clowns…

        First of all, Lilith is a yid fairy tale, not Scripture.

        Second of all, God gave all beings free will… what they do with that free will is on them, not God.

        Tiresome trilobites. (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • Sorry, martin, the previous was meant as a reply below.

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    • No, Earl. In the garden of Eden, Eve was the harmonious helper. Since the curse of Eve, her “desire” is to rule or dominate her husband. Since that moment, all women are conflicted between their natural submissive state that God gave them, and the rebellious streak they were cursed with to defy their own submission.

      God did indeed install their rebellious streak.

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      • If your going to use the Biblical tales to support your argument, then you need to remember that Lilith came before Eve…and she wasnt subservient.

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      • I don’t know what verkackte version alleged bible you two are on about… either find me a mention of Lilith in any accredited version of Genesis or just STFU when it comes to the Bible.

        And this nonsense about “since the curse of Eve, her desire is to rule or dominate her husband”, well… let me put you wise:

        http://www.theologyforwomen.org/2010/04/her-desire-will-be-for-her-husband.html

        In short, the various twists and turns by SOME scholars to render translations of Genesis inaccurately result in conflicting and contradictory interpretations, but the majority of which translate the curse correctly as “for”, not “against” (as in to control)… her curse is pain in childbearing, which she will endure due to desire for her husband… indeed, a desire for her man above a desire for her God, the way things were meant to be… and thus the coup de grace of the curse, “and he will dominate you.” Note there is no “BUT he will dominate you.” That is spurious scholarship at it’s most laughable.

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      • ‘God did indeed install their rebellious streak.’

        Wrong God.

        Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust.

        James 1:13-14

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      • ‘If your going to use the Biblical tales to support your argument, then you need to remember that Lilith came before Eve…and she wasnt subservient.’

        If Lillth was real, important, or necessary to the story of creation…she would have been mentioned.

        The idea that God created woman out of the same dirt he created man does seem far fetched. Woman means ‘taken out of man’.

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      • No, Earl. In the garden of Eden, Eve was the harmonious helper. Since the curse of Eve, her “desire” is to rule or dominate her husband. Since that moment, all women are conflicted between their natural submissive state that God gave them, and the rebellious streak they were cursed with to defy their own submission.

        God did indeed install their rebellious streak.

        It’s funny how you Christians constantly come up with new ideas of what the Bible say, and they all conveniently fit your own ideas. Despite there not being a word about it in the Bible you all claim to worship.

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    • on December 29, 2014 at 2:48 am L. Jon Hubbard

      earl: “Wrong God.”

      Presumably the same wrong god (lucifer?) whom Jesus entreated with his frankly blasphemous prayer, “lead us not in temptation”.

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      • You scripture pseudo-scholars are a pain in the neck because you’re too lazy to just do a few googles when a seeming contradiction arises.

        Here, let me do your homework for you:
        http://www.gotquestions.org/lead-us-not-into-temptation.html

        The Lord’s Prayer was a prayer to the Father, not Satan (which I’m suspecting you already well-know, but couldn’t resist the neener-neener).

        And the “lead us not into temptation” (the latter word also being rendered as “trials” or “tribulations” in connotation) simply means the same thing as saying “protect us from evil and those who would ensnare us therein”…

        … also, in re the aforementioned connotations: “be merciful and do not put us through heinous trials”, which is corroborated by verses like 1 Cor 10:13, where it avers that God will put us through trials as a test to make us ready for His purposes (witness Abraham, Moses, Christ Himself, etc., etc., etc.) but promises not to test us beyond our abilities.

        Don’t come ’round here no more with your half-knowledge, lest you cause others to stumble.

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  7. Sometimes, when I want to psyche myself up, I imagine myself as Kennedy or a rock star walking into a party, a meeting or a room. I throw my shoulders back, hold my head up and in my head I just soak up the idea i’m invincible.

    If I can maintain this idea for around 5 minutes…I forget I’m pretending and then I’m actually where I want to be.

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  8. The musician does have a leg up in the leg over department. The lyricist too.

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  9. I’ve often thought that the sexual revolution made things worse not only for the average male but also the above average female. Fifties monogamy meant that every guy had a girl but very few guys had multiple girls. Only a few guys at the top like Sinatra had a rotating harem and even Sinatra had to get married if he wanted a really high quality female like Ava Gardner. To get her, he also had to face a certain amount of social ostracism for dumping his first wife and mother of his children. Nowadays not just male celebrities but almost any alpha male can go through multiple wives or stay single and go through scores of women and no one cares. For the kind of woman who used to marry the alpha male, things must be much tougher getting the alpha male to marry her and stay faithful with the temptation of all the slutty modern day American females to tempt him and no potential social stigma holding him back.

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  10. I never got the appeal of the streaks of piss Beatles or their shitty music.

    I’d have more respect if they’d even idolised masculine men.

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    • They pleased the right people.

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    • When they replaced Elvis, a real masculine voice and personality, everything started to go downhill in popular music.

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    • In all fairness, their pre-Sgt. Pepper material still holds up, and they were ground-breaking in the industry for writing their own music, rather than depending upon the Tin Pan Alley Kosher Elite…. though George Martin may deserve equal credit to Mssrs. Lennon and McCartney for the sound production which accounts for the continued allure of the songs.

      And there’s still a good, clean-cut WHITE vibe to this day from watching a Hard Day’s Night… the greasy, sleazy mud-sharking disco dreck was still a good decade away… no fault can be laid at their doorstep on that account.

      Criticize them, perhaps, for never really maturing beyond the one-dimensional ooey-gooey All You Need Is Love drug-culture tripe in the waning years of their band… and that may be more the fault of the too-rich-and-too-soft West in general… they themselves never comfortably or willingly wore the mantel of leaders.

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      • The early Beatles fame was due to their mastery of the new negro sound of “Rock&Roll”.

        The entire “British invasion” was really a negro invasion in white face; total jooish theater.

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      • You darkies like to think that, and the Yid media pushes that meme…

        All I can say is, the white energy of the British Invasion actually made some of the former race music sound palatable (compare Beatles’ version of Twist and Shout with the lame original Isleys, for example… and just about ANY song that the Dave Clark Five covered).

        And when I hear Rubber Soul, Pet Sounds, The Who Sell Out, etc., etc., etc. I ain’t hearing negro.

        The brothers Wilson could do a lively suburban rendition of Sweet Little Sixteen as Surfin’ USA in their sleep… Berry and company could never come up with a God Only Knows or Caroline No.

        Of course, because Chuck Berry and ilk came up with some three-chord amusements, this means negros can take credit for everything from Dark Side Of The Moon to Quadrophenia to Houses Of The Holy.

        LZLZOZLZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLOZLZOLZOZLOZLOO

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 7:36 am The Spirit Within

        It’s common knowledge that the most marginalized group of ANY society usually create the most awesome music. See gypsys, etc.

        In our culture, that group has historically been the blacks.

        No amount of hamstring, Greg Eliot, will change that. Give credit where credit is due.

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      • Outsider music can be seen as interesting because it is different than core peoples’ music. It’s a novelty originating in outsiders’ different neuro-wiring and sensibility. In this vein, US blacks who were exposed to Irish folk ballads, Christian hymns, and marching bands reinterpreted them into blues, gospel, and jazz, respectively.

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      • Tell that to the spooks who try to make it sound like it all belongs to them… funny how you’re dead silent on that issue and don’t speak of “credit where due” when it comes to rock/pop being far, far, FAR more than the three chord riffs of all those negro “geniuses”, you disingenuous pismire.

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      • I meant to say Scottish or Scots-Irish folk ballads.

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      • It’s common knowledge that the most marginalized group of ANY society usually create the most awesome music. See gypsys, etc.

        More Cathedral canards… the likes of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Wagner, etc., etc., etc. were part and parcel of their respective mainstreams… and three-chord repetition of same ol’ same woes is anything but “most awesome”.

        You’re the kind of shallow clown who would speak of Howlin’ Wolf and Burt Bacharach in the same breath.

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 7:58 am The Spirit Within

        In our culture, blacks have been the great musical *innovators*. They built the cars — blues, ragtime, jazz, rock, hip hop, whatever’s coming next — by absorbing whatever influences are in the air around them.

        After that, we all take turns driving those cars, and some of us drive more expertly than others. IMO, Stevie Ray Vaughn was a ten times better guitarist than Jimi Hendrix, but without Hendrix’s innovation twenty years earlier, his style wouldn’t have existed.

        Get my point?

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      • The early Beatles fame was due to their mastery of the new negro sound of “Rock&Roll”.

        You’re nearly a decade too late… and the likes of Jerry Lee Lewis, Big Bopper, Eddie Cochran, Buddy Holly, The Everley Bros., Gene Vincent, etc., etc., etc…. and of course, Elvis… might have something to say on the subject.

        These men didn’t “sound black”… they sounded like good ol’ boys, and they bucked the squeaky clean facade of prior music stars.

        You wanna give the original Delta boys credit for origination of the prototype sound, by all means.

        But the Rebel Without A Cause image was going to break through, regardless…

        … and in re radio play, you might want to go back as far as 1948 for country hits by the likes of Tennessee Ernie Ford (Shot Gun Boogie) and others for that particular sound… well before the “black sound” of Mssrs. Lieber and Stoeller (lzlzozlzozlzozlozl) giving Hound Dog to Big Mama Thornton in 1952.

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      • ‘In the beginning
        Back in nineteen fifty five
        Man didn’t know ’bout a rock ‘n’ roll show
        And all that jive
        The white man had the schmaltz
        The black man had the blues
        No one knew what they was gonna do
        But Tschaikovsky had the news’

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      • I suspect the reason Greg Eliot can’t give credit where credit is due is because despite his great historical scholarship, he never understood what all the great white rockers new immediately;

        “Rock&Roll” is not a chord, or a beat, or a costume… its an ATTITUDE; a logos.

        The Beatles had it. The Stones had it. The negroes in the forest, their bodies brightly painted; they had it too.

        Greg Eliot doesn’t have it.

        Sux to be him.

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      • If it was merely an attitude, you and a million more like you would all be mega-stars.

        A lot of people got the gab, but few have the heart… and the talent… and the willingness to sit off by themselves after school, for hours on end, year-in, year-out, mastering their craft.

        “The reason few are chosen, is that few will pay the price
        That it takes to go seachin’ for Paradise.”
        – Jimmy Webb

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      • My reply to this latest simian folderol has been et by the forum… hopefully it will cough it back up eventually.

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      • Yid Within keeps conveniently ignoring my smackdowns of his previous points and just rolls another inane snowball down the hill, hoping it will pick up momentum and mass.

        Last time:

        In our culture, blacks have been the great musical *innovators*. They built the cars — blues, ragtime, jazz, rock, hip hop, whatever’s coming next — by absorbing whatever influences are in the air around them.

        They built buggies, some less rickety than others, with white tools… which whites later turned into elaborate automobiles.

        Jazz, if that’s your taste, may be a better argument, when it’s at it’s best… but there again, much of it sounds the same, just like blues, and becomes indistinguishable after the first 30 to 40 minutes of a given concert.

        And it is, for the most part when performed by all but the relative masters, merely physical prowess and often cacaphony without compositional durability or merit.

        And this whole Jimi Hendrix as god thing is quite laughable… pyrotechnics is far from musicality… and even the man himself said he wasn’t a “real musician”. Some were obviously impressed by the noise… but most aren’t, judging by how that whole “psychedelic era” wore itself out quickly.

        And if you’re going to talk about mere instrumentalists rather than composers, well… that’s not the scope of eternal music. Guitar solos are a dime a dozen, and nothing new gets brought to THAT table for decades now.

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 3:40 pm gunslingergregi

        “The reason few are chosen, is that few will pay the price
        That it takes to go seachin’ for Paradise.” – Jimmy Webb”””””””’

        truth
        I keep telling the fake drug addicts there are places where it is legal none have gone
        so like I said they do shitty stuff in life cause they want to do shitty stuff in life not because of drugs or anything else
        they sit at meeting and say I am a drug addict
        no you are not

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      • Greg, I backed Chuck Berry for two gigs in Holland way back about 1970. One of the most horrible degenerate individuals I ever met. And as you say his music was primitive, so much so that he went through the whole tour with a whole range of backing personnel with hardly any practice. It wasn’t really needed. Some of the Beatles’ early stuff was sublime and resonates to this day.

        By the way CB never paid me. That’s why I left after two gigs.

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      • Greg Eliot
        And this whole Jimi Hendrix as god thing is quite laughable… pyrotechnics is far from musicality… and even the man himself said he wasn’t a “real musician”.
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        Well duh?
        he was very unrefined both musically and socially, just like most black people of his day, and dare I say even today. But the rock and roll attitude says “you do you” and ignore what the Greg Eliots think.

        You white guys have the luxury of ACTING “aloof”; but when you grow up poor and black you can’t sustain yourself off external validation because there is none.

        So you might as well jack off.

        Matter of fact, in the entertainment world, the only way for a black person to get paid is to come up with something a white person can’t do; otherwise they will just steal it from you.

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      • Interesting anecdote, irish… I had heard such tales about the man, and one of the documentaries about him even admitted his modus operandi of picking up a few local players, more or less competent, for his gigs, and just taking the money and running, often merely phoning in the performance without even rehearsals… some “genius” music, eh? :duckface:

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      • irishsavant

        By the way CB never paid me. That’s why I left after two gigs.
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        But you brag about playing with Chuck Berry every chance you get.

        Go get in line behind all those old bags claiming Bill Cosby raped them you irishshithead.

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      • on January 1, 2015 at 8:50 am Carlos Danger

        @ white monkey I read this forum regularly and this is the first I’ve heard of this CB incident. Why don’t you pi*s off?

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      • Greg Eliot
        And this whole Jimi Hendrix as god thing is quite laughable… pyrotechnics is far from musicality…
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        Hendrix was so far beyond and above any of his contemporary players that even today, with the internet people still have great difficulty learning his songs:

        Show me any other rock and roll guitar player taking composition to this level of complexity?

        Bow down Greg; bow down to the guitar God incarnate,

        Jimi Hendrix

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      • It’s common knowledge that the most marginalized group of ANY society usually create the most awesome music. See gypsys, etc.

        LOL The Socialist Within finally pissed himself so much that the stain never washes out. Filthy Gypsy criminals good at music? You fucking piece of shit liar. There’s nothing else to say about you.

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  11. Look at who’s voted sexiest man for an indication of where we are at. I think the last one was a chipmunk voiced metrosexual. These are the guys that are cleaning up nowadays.

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    • I don’t take the opinions of what is considered masculine sexiness from homosexuals.

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      • It’s bad enough they hold sway on defining feminine allure…

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      • Make all women ugly so that they can have all the fellas.

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      • “I don’t take the opinions of what is considered masculine sexiness from homosexuals.”

        Earl is spot on. Straight women are not attracted to the same thing gay men are. For example: A rugged, hairy combat vet covered in scars. Women find it intimidatingly sexy, while gay men are repulsed by it.

        Gays (even the “burly” ones) have a metro, pseudo-masculinity thing going on that doesn’t cause the tingle because it’s all a physical pony show… the ladies can see right through it.

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    • PR consultants and agents + publishing industry = “sexiest showbiz figure”

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  12. Explains everything. Ineqality = the top gets everything. Every thing.

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  13. on December 27, 2014 at 2:19 pm Diversity Is Good

    The 60’s were a repeat of the 20’s in many ways. Valentino and Fairbanks sr. on the screen were droolbait for young and not so young women across the country. In the 20’s some of the first fast food, such as the Mars bar, came out and were instant hits because they provided a multiple sensory experience that nothing before had accomplished.

    In the 60’s everything was just more turboed up. That makes the 90’s or the 00’s the next turn around the screw, maybe? Hi def uber alpha being something that a mere flesh and blood man can’t compete with? Or just the Feminine Imperative responding to the visual presence of Alpha as if it was real life?

    Either way the FI demands its 10 minutes of alpha, no matter what it costs to get it.

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  14. Brilliant. But don’t forget the effect of the pill, condom, anonymous urban living, and increased female income/status in enabling women’s pursuit of the Mid-Century Alpha. A bobby soxer screaming for Frank or teenybopper for the Beatles in prior eras would turn off potential suitors. Ever increasing obesity rates also increase market power of those still slim — no danger of another woman stealing the best men on the market.

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  15. dapper laughs is back after being shut down by the feminists, funny way to return ha

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  16. Rer: Sinatra

    His womanizing was so notorious that even folks behind the Iron Courtain (thanx Winnie, FDR, AngloAmerican heroes!)

    oink

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  17. Fine form, CH.

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  18. So all I have to do to stop feminism’s destruction of the nuclear family is travel back to 1950, kill Sinatra, and prevent the advent of television.

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    • on December 28, 2014 at 7:38 am The Spirit Within

      1.21 gigawatts, Marty.

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    • on December 28, 2014 at 7:52 am The Straw That Stirs the Drink

      That won’t work. The genie was out of the bottle when your great great grandfather’s let great great grandma go into a voting booth alone… Talk about unleashing Hypergamy.

      Circa 1920 in all western nations.

      Thanks Gampa btw what the fuck were you thinking?

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    • By the time 1950 came along, Ol’ Blue Eyes was on the downside of his career and being put through the emotional ringer by Ava Gardner. The swoons and screams were from late thirties and early forties.

      Sinatra recovered with From Here To Eternity, got more into dramatic acting and adult lounge when he dabbled in music from then on, and the rest is history.

      Putting the kibosh, or at least more stringent rules on who controls and what gets shown on TV might have been a good idea in a perfect society… but that genie never was going back into the bottle in this, our “you can’t tell ME what to do!” culture.

      Guess we’ll see what happens when the lights go out for an extended period.

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  19. Sinatra wasn’t healthy enough for WW2 with a punctured eardrum. Some of his critics said he was just about the only male left around with women feeling mass frustrated love. Sinatra made just one USO tour in Italy and flew off sneering that these shows were for cheap hacks. “Stars and Stripes” commented that mice made women faint too.

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  20. Great article… and very perceptive.

    Female primates are evolutionary compelled and “designed” to mate across and over the dominance hierarchy. They will ignore the average “nice guy” or beta schlub any day for the man who stands out in some way or another.. whether in a “good” positive or relative harmless way, such as a rock star or performer or a man who has achieved success in some field, or whether in a more negative way, such a sociopath and thug and criminal.

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  21. Very pithy article. I guess the same mass media that allowed women to explore their innate hypergamy has also allowed men to share their observations and experiences about that hypeegamy. The feminists who champion the former hate the latter. It is also clear now why most successful earlier societies put such heavy restrictions on women’s behavior. Their unrestricted behavior is ruinous to a functioning society.

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    • Thumbs up.

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      • As usual the retard Tilikum has nothing to contribute. When longs posts are written he can only whine that it hurts his head. So he looks for someone saying something as close to his “I hate women! Women are not human beings!” babble as possible and gets down on his knees to lick ass. That’s all the old low-IQ loner can do.

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    • Unrestricted behavior by either sex is ruinous to a functioning society.

      Men are the fire and women are the gas.

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      • Earl the Pearl is on fire in this thread.

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      • Earl is indeed on fire. I often try to remind guys that it’s the men at the top who engineered this whole fiasco. Including feminism. Who wants open hypergamy more than the top dog?

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  22. When the Beatles first played Shea stadium in 1965 the girls’ screaming was so loud that the band couldn’t heart themselves play. In response, the audio engineers started developing the speaker stacks and monitoring systems you see in use today.

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    • That was also one of the reasons they decided to “no longer compete” with other rock touring bands… many of whom were starting to shade them, performance-wise… and instead devote their efforts more to the studio.

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    • That’s exactly what I was thinking of when I wrote the part CH quotes.

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  23. I just bumped into this idea a couple of days ago. There is a concept in neuroscience called mirror neurons. From Wikipedia:

    “A mirror neuron is a neuron that fires both when an animal acts and when the animal observes the same action performed by another. Thus, the neuron “mirrors” the behavior of the other, as though the observer were itself acting. Such neurons have been directly observed in primate species. Birds have been shown to have imitative resonance behaviors and neurological evidence suggests the presence of some form of mirroring system. In humans, brain activity consistent with that of mirror neurons has been found in the premotor cortex, the supplementary motor area, the primary somatosensory cortex and the inferior parietal cortex.”

    The guy who discovered these mirror neuron things postulated that they are responsible for the birth of human society, empathy, social cooperation, etc.

    But it also explains the basis of mass hysteria, especially in women. We all know the extreme “copycat” (“mirroring”) nature of women. The Greeks originated the concept of “hysteria” as the womb of the woman moving around her body. Women like to pick at this idea as ridiculous, but the underlying observations of extreme emotionalism are not.

    This paper speaks of the effect of “mirroring”: “The mirror neuron system may play a role in the pathogenesis of mass hysteria.”

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19815347

    With abstract:
    “Mass hysteria or collective hysteria usually begins when an individual shows a hysteric manifestation in front of others in the same group who later contagiously acquire the same symptoms. The underlying pathogenesis of mass hysteria is still unknown. It has been demonstrated that the mirror neuron system (MNS) provides an important neural substrate for humans’ ability to imitate and there is an inhibitive component of MNS keeping us from imitating everything we see. We proposed that the inhibitive component for MNS automatic imitation may not function well in individuals of the group that results in the outbreaks of mass hysteria. We also provide evidences from emotional contagion, gender difference and treatment in mass hysteria to support this hypothesis.”

    When I read this stuff about mirror neurons, my mind exactly went to the idea of the “apex star”, particularly Elvis. Anyway, you can connect the dots to this idea of mirror neurons, mass hysteria, and that of hypergamy driving this behavior of female mass hysteria over the Apex Alpha.

    But I wish to comment on the reverse of this Apex hysteria, a different form of mass hysteria, and that is the outright hatred and fear of the vast majority of men, the non-alphas.

    Modern human sexual selection more resembles the “lek” today than other form of selection in human history. Males present and females select. If you want to know which male is the alpha in the “lek”, look in the center of the congregation of the females. They flock to the alpha. And ignore all others.
    The “Frankie”, Elvis, or Beatlemania scenes are a hysterical version of this tendency in the “lek”, all driven via “mirroring”.

    But today, “mirroring” in females, has driven “ignoring” the beta into a far deeper and more permanent hysterical reaction in women, it is pathological fear and hatred, one entirely without reason, or at least one that is far in excess of any real reason.

    I often pound on this same concept over and over. Here is link to the movie Gone Girl. It is an example of female hysteria in how the media jumped all over this “Gone Girl” case, and of those that would exploit it. You can see why Steve Sailer kept pushing this idea as a metaphor throughout the whole UVa hoax:

    http://www.solarmovie.ws/watch-gone-girl-2014-online.html

    False Rape hysteria is more than just “due process”. It goes much deeper, much more sinister. It seeks to pin the vast majority of you as second class citizens.

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  24. If a man wants to keep a woman around he can no longer count on the ancient ritual of marriage. Whatever marriage is or was it no longer compairs to pimphood. A man must pimp and use a woman to keep her.

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    • on December 28, 2014 at 3:47 pm gunslingergregi

      pimp lol that don’t work either

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    • on December 28, 2014 at 3:52 pm gunslingergregi

      trust me you don’t want a bitch you have to pimp
      I’m not jealous of any pimps life I know
      been an education but shit for long term hell naaawwww

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      • Pimp as in use not an actual pimp….I’m an everyday guy but I use the women around me to get what I want as I a promotion at work for one…

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  25. on December 28, 2014 at 7:46 am The Spirit Within

    I’ve read historians putting an even finer point on it.

    1957.

    That year was the apex of our civilization.

    Lowest crime rates, lowest unemployment. Any schmuck with a high school education or less could support a family of four plus maybe have a little cottage on a lake. Divorce, unheard of. Immigration slowed to a crawl. No other capitalist superpowers to suck our jobs away. Ike played golf three times a week. You didn’t have to be an alpha male to get some trim.

    Like everything else, it didn’t last.

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    • It follows from your comment that you consider the Brown vs Board decision to be destructive of our civilization.

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      • on December 29, 2014 at 6:42 am The Spirit Within

        It does not follow.

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      • Sperg Within: “It does not follow.”

        Sure it does. Brown vs Board was a seminal moment in breaking down the traditional order of things. It wasn’t the only factor, of course, but it’s definitely one of the biggies.

        Once the schools were integrated, everything changed for the simple reason that it had to. Our very understanding of ourselves transformed: who we are, where we came from, where we are going. Our story could no longer be one of a fundamentally white, European civilization, but instead became one of overcoming whiteness. We see the rotten fruit of this narrative all around us.

        Old national heroes faded to insignificance, and it is no coincidence that MLK has more or less replaced Washington and Jefferson as the most iconic of Americans. We had become a different people – a multiracial cesspool that could no longer think in traditional terms, for which the old white America no longer made any sense.

        A new people require a new story, and new icons. Truth is, MLK is actually more representative of what we are now than Jefferson or Washington could be, and I don’t mean that as a compliment.

        There are relatively few events that are truly sacred to the anti-white left, but Brown vs Board is definitely one of them. The anti-whites grasp the significance of the event, and the massive transformation of society that would inevitably follow, but the dimwitted modern conservative flails about without comprehension. Those clowns couldn’t think their way out of a wet paper bag.

        Separation is the only solution.

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      • on December 29, 2014 at 10:27 am The Straw That Stirs the Drink

        It was certainly destructive of our school systems… Compare any private school in the south to any public school in the south and get back to me which is better… and guess what, it’s not about $ per student ratios… it’s about culture and parenting.

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      • Well said Trainspotter.

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  26. i don’t know about this – this is likely not true, or, at the very least, not as true as ch is making it seem. go watch videos of bieber or one direction and you can find plenty of screaming girls.

    you need to remember that the equipment used back in the 60s sucked, so for the people who claim “i couldn’t hear a thing at the beatles/beach boys concert”: right, you couldn’t hear, because the speakers used in stadiums then wouldn’t be fit for a small venue today. ever watch a classic american college football game from the 80s? the fans sound very loud, more so than today, but that’s just because the equipment produced a sound that wasn’t clear, giving off the effect of it being super loud.

    the media no doubt contributed to the hype of the beatles, with those short 3-4 minute packages they ran, which, unlike today with free flowing information, created a much more exclusive picture of whatever they were highlighting, in this case the british invasion. not saying things weren’t loud and the girls weren’t getting their panties wet, but it’s happening today as well and likely wasn’t as crazy as it seemed back then.

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    • So women swoon over a Bieber today and that would disprove CH’s note about women swooning – how?

      So the speakers were weaker. And that would mean what? That the screams from the audience didn’t exist?

      The media contributed to the Beatles hype, so what? They also contributed to the Madonna hype. And men did not scream and faint at Madonna concerts. Women screamed and fainted at Beatles concerts. If you need it repeated. As I wrote in the post CH quotes, the feminists can at most claim that the media make women desire the men in the band, but they can’t explain the screaming. Or the fainting. If it was only a case of being shaped by the media, why would women scream and men would not? That’s their own decision, not the media’s.

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  27. PA
    In this vein, US blacks who were exposed to Irish folk ballads, Christian hymns, and marching bands reinterpreted them into blues, gospel, and jazz, respectively.
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    Indeed; and that BEHAVIOR, in part, is the rock and roll “attitude.” The Beatles mastered the true and complete expression of it.

    “goo goo g’joob”

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    • That “attitude” is mate-signaling to you and therefore awesome to you, but it’s n-noise to us. Like an aural version of twerking: a novelty in small doses.

      As to authorship of rock: without blacks, sooner or later we’d have produced an Elvis because for better or worse, there’d have been a hunger for that. But Africa alone would never have produced a Chuck Berry.

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    • My response was written. It’s short but it once and for all lays to rest the “blacks created rock” nonsense.

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    • I think you’re off base… the Beatles were never known for a “rock n’ roll attitude”, like the Stones and others were.

      If anything, the talk of “attitude” (e.g., the bad boy Stones) arose as a reaction to the (relatively) clean-cut “safe” image that the Beatles evinced, which even started to win parents over.

      The press-dubbed “mop tops”, the cutesy “Fab Four” were a unique phenomenon, come along at the right place and time… four working-class lads from the backwaters of England who happened to have teen-idol appeal and performing talent coupled with a mature tunesmithing knack that heretofore had only shown itself in industry craftsmen of the non-performing Tin Pan Alley writers. A curious and heady combination that would allow them to walk with commoner and king alike.

      This was no mere “rock n’ roll attitude”… an attribute that would only correspond to the earlier Hamburg proving grounds of one-quarter of the bunch in Lennon… MAYBE… and which would play no part in the phenomenon that would become known as Beatlemania… and which would peter out altogether in a schmalzy hippy-dippy solo ennui as “Imagine”.

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      • I respect genius.
        Here we are, in the last days of the year of our lord 2014, discussing in serious ways a supposedly flash-in-the-pan pop group who first appeared in America in early 1964.
        Do you guys realize how many “groups” from that time are not being remembered at all, much less discussed in a serious way?
        Everything they ever recorded is still being produced. It is still on the shelves in every venue that exists.
        Some things are really hard to fake, even with the best PR.

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      • The Beatles were not “geniuses”. They are remembered simply because they were the first with their particular trick. Had they come later they would not have been that famous. It’s like how Jewsus would not be famous if he showed up today because there are plenty of other pop philosophers.

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    • I likewise have been upended by the stupid forum software, putting to rest the false contention that the Beatles had any sort of “rock n’ roll attitude”, as it’s been commonly known and painted broadly on their rivals of the time, the Stones and the Animals.

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      • Jimmy Doolittle taught the japs the rock and roll “attitude”

        They spent half the war searching for “Shangri la”

        LOL

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  28. One of your better cultural commentaries, Heartiste.

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  29. Good post. However, pretty much every screams at a concert. When a good song comes on that is well-known everyone there gets pumped up and screams. Obviously a girl sees the Beatles as we see Victoria secret Angels but I don’t think that necessarily means that your girl is gonna lose her mind and shun you for being her boyfriend….it’s just like how we still fuck our girlfriends and still get boners for the Victoria secret angels. I think there may be some over analysis in your post but it still makes sense I guess

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    • To shout in appreciation of the song and to scream out your feverish love for the band members are different things.

      Obviously a girl sees the Beatles as we see Victoria secret Angels

      Do men scream and cry and faint in the audience when the Victoria’s Secret Angels models are parading? No. Because men and women are different.

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  30. When The Atlantic confirms the existence of female hypergamy then you know it’s jumped the shark.

    http://theatln.tc/13zIw32

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  31. on December 28, 2014 at 12:48 pm haunted trilobite

    “If the sexes were reversed”… are you saying that history’s fiercest warriors, kings etc that were used to having things, and getting their way, collectively reincarnated as women, that they might continue to strive towards their objectives in a very, manly, fashion?

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  32. and which would peter out altogether in a schmalzy hippy-dippy solo ennui as “Imagine”. – Greg Eliot

    “Imagine” is the most anti-human song ever recorded. That said, I do have a soft spot for much of Lennon’s solo work. Late Beatles’ “Across the Universe” is one of my go-to chill-out songs. And I don’t even care much for Boomer music.

    On that last point, there is a fun mental exercise one can play with others. To the common question ‘what kind of music do you listen to’, most people will say “All kinds of music”, especially SWPL girls, who are unique snowflakes that can’t be pigeonholed.

    So you follow up with “sure, I like all kinds of music too; but if you were forced to listen to one genre of music for ten hours/one year, etc., what genre would you pick?”

    PA’s answer, if I were to have to listen to a single genre for an extended period of time: Grunge, defined broadly. From early stuff like Mother Love Bone, to grunge-influenced stuff like Foo Fighters and Muse. It’s all about the energy, anger, soft verses juxtaposed with loud choruses, the pathos of raw vocals and screaming, distortion guitars.

    A follow-up question: after the ten hours/ one year, etc., of Grunge or whatever you chose, you’d be saturated with the music, and you’d want something different. My fallback-genre: mellow Seventies. Interpreted broadly, that includes cheesy crooners like Mac Davis, to Abba, to Pink Floyd.

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    • “Imagine” was communist propaganda. Lennon bragged that he did more to brainwash the masses with that song than long Marxist writings had done. That’s one guy who deserved to be shot, the White-hating, sick bastard.

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    • on January 2, 2015 at 7:43 pm Carlos Danger

      Hard rock wise- Monster Magnet, Hawkwind, and of course the Stooges. Monster Magnet is awesome. They are red pill to the bone and play the best psychedelic metal of anyone. Their version of Gimme Danger is even better than Iggy’s, which is tough to do.

      These days, I prefer classical music though. Chopin, Vivaldi, Mozart and Beethoven would all be on the list.

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    • on January 2, 2015 at 7:48 pm Carlos Danger

      Gimme Danger little stranger and I’ll fill you with peace.

      I’ve always wanted to be a in a firefight with that song in the background. Down in the Street, 1970, and Funhouse too. Iggy wrote a lot of sublime stuff in his prime. Ron Ashton is also one of the most underrated guitarists I know of. That guy just played awesome solos. Monster Magnet does that too.

      Space Lord Mother F*cker!

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    • on January 2, 2015 at 7:56 pm Carlos Danger

      One more from Monster Magnet

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  33. on December 28, 2014 at 4:46 pm henry himbeere

    America’s golden age was in the 20th century, this civilization having lasted roughly half a millenium- from the settlers to the coming collapse. In this time it has changed history and changed demographics globally, warring against saviors of the white race and instituting polices and worldviews that are hostile to racial pride and preference, and for racial-masochism. It is their plea to pity and sympathy and tolerance, which is backed by their fist and force that is the essence of the 20th century American influence. If they believe in niceness, they sure act like bullies.

    But civilizations follow scripts, as perverted as those scripts may be. Think of a seed from a plant, or flower. Now, America was a colony without deep roots, and early on, we had foreigners and elements within us that altered the outcome of our script, especially from around 1880-1920 when we had a lot of eastern european immigration, coinciding with the time Hollywood was founded, also when the present central bank was founded and the seeds of a world war was planted and also when the income tax went into effect.

    As far as women’s sexuality being liberated, I think that’s a great thing. Nature abhors equality except by rare cases of merit- wherein every member is of equal merit. Imagine a society in which all men are naturally studs, or losers. The former would make women happy. That’s what we should aspire to. In fact, men in the past in america were hardy and strong- they had to be here to come here and pioneer. There was no complaining. I see that trident gum commercial on youtube. That guy is happy because they don’t have wrappers. What a loser. Money corrupts. Corrupt means to be broken, etymologically. Money breaks souls and spirits and behavior. Anyway I digress.

    It’s great to liberate female sexuality because then both men and women can adapt to reality. use your mentality, wake up to reality! Sinatra had the seed in all of his songs- just what makes that little ant think he can move that rubber tree plant. So many MRAs and others are whining when they could be working. Their complaints have reason or substance, but they are using their energy to blow idiot winds rather than shovel and dig, forgetting we have it better than any former civilization in terms of material abundance. No woman loves a complainer. As opposed to a diagnoser.

    Any man who’s a good lover and worker and honest can keep a decent average woman- even one of great looks. If they fail to win her loyalty it’s because their failing their manhood- if she’s not an exception. They’re missing clues. Granted, women are so indirect and scared, they hide their feelings. Man has to really draw this out. That’s the main problem- that men had no idea. But still. Men are not taught. They’re distracted from reality. Women (in sex and in relationships, which is just a series of sexual encounters with the same partner) want to be enjoyed, and relished. If men are failing to do this, what’s wrong with them? Or work and yes sometimes communicate their feelings, or assert themsevles. Men granted have a lot to figure out, but reality is nice if you make it your friend. One thing that sucks and that harms the sexual relationship with men and women is the ugliest thing ever devised in the history of mankind and has to stop. We have to ridicule anyone practicing it, mercilessly. We have to shame them when we can without mercy or restraint, until they’re crying.I’m talking about circumcision.what a hideous crime.

    So if the white race is to continue it will do so with the best stock, who are wise and clever. If we fail it was because we weren’t fit. Granted, the numbers combined against us in envy and bad leadership. Still, all we have to do is keep having children and stop being sorry and start being clever. It will prune away those who have bad instincts, or instincts unfit for modern civilization and the modern world. You can’t lose with evolution. It’s time to stop being sad. Keep diagnosing but not whining. Seriously, we have so much potential to rock.

    Integrity first and foremost. Integrity ensures at the same time dignity and purpose. you can’t have integrity without each of those. If you have integrity, you are a free body, ready to pierce. You have to trust the time will come for you. When you see that woman who you know could be the mother of your children, Carpe Feminam

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    • ” So many MRAs and others are whining when they could be working. ”

      Oh shut the fuck up you try hard piss jug.

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      • ho, you have shown yourself to be an anti only here to troll, so why don’t you shut up? You try-hard piss jug.

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    • Well said, henry himberee. Though it should be added that there are many who do act. What readers should do is get organized: join whatever group exists where you live. It doesn’t have to be a perfect group, as long as it is conservative – just not the mainstream GOP. Don’t be an atom, be part of something bigger, so that when things get worse you can take part in organizing those who finally start asking questions and want to be part of the protests.

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      • Not well said at all. Rather, contradictory. He points out the Jewish and Hollywood propaganda problem, but then blames men for our failures like a feminist. See the former GBFM blog for explanation. He is Vastly understating the power that the media and TPTB culture have on influencing women. They are on the whole seriously out-of-control at an extreme level. And their government has all of the power. But you can bet we will work. Nobody will support us because we have a vagina.

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  34. per your recommendation I saw “In the Company of Men.” And you are it, it masterfully vindicates your worldview as well as any 90 minute film could. Fellow Chateau visitors, I highly recommend the film.

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  35. on December 28, 2014 at 5:51 pm gunslingergregi

    being in the limelight like that though they had so many demands on them and their time they prob could barely enjoy it.
    imagine 50 calls a day from thousands of woman
    it would be hard as fuck to keep up and probably become extremely irritating
    be careful what ya wish for

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    • on December 28, 2014 at 5:55 pm gunslingergregi

      when you are trying to do something on your phone and so many calls coming in that you fucking can’t it can get to the point of being retarded
      anyone know how to put it so when your being called it comes up somewhere else or some shit

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 5:57 pm gunslingergregi

        picture their home phone just ringing off the hook all day every day

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 5:58 pm gunslingergregi

        and all hours all the fucking time every minute of every day

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 6:03 pm gunslingergregi

        then bitches be knockin on the door when they got other bitches there
        and the catfights and the intrigue and bitches they know be getting put in jail to get rid of competition of the bitches that want them on a constant fucking basis
        every bitch they get along with end up in jail for a fuckin year
        to be seen with you having fun is a fucking sentence in itself

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      • on December 28, 2014 at 6:05 pm gunslingergregi

        then a bitch gonna brag bout she gonna take someones man sheot ill see you in 5

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      • I just want to know how to get autocorrect to stop fucking me up the mass…

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  36. Yesterday, I went along to “help” my daughter negotiate a new car deal.
    She does not look anything like Margaret Thatcher. She looks a lot like Sheryl Crowe.
    Neither of them could have gotten better terms and conditions.
    I just sat their and smirked.

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    • The main job, my friends, is to produce boy children who think and act like Hercules and girl children that come to resemble a real life Lionesses- of- God.
      Collateral damage to others will occur along the way.

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  37. Sheryl Crowe has negroid admixture.

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  38. Do men consider women who are not hypergamous “low quality”?

    Meaning while men may hate it, doesn’t part of you appreciate hypergamous women?

    Does hypergamous behavior in some women signal quality vs. women who just settle for anything (like an omega or lower beta)?

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  39. what media ever told women to scream at concerts?

    None – but women do this to draw attention to themselves from the performers. As a performer the ones that scream the loudest are advertising that they will do anything that you want if you bring them to the back. That is the reward for their actions. Of course, the reward of picking them is that they are easy and more than willing. So their actions are beneficial to them by getting f**ked by a lot of the men that other women want, and beneficial to the men as they want nothing more than for you to c*m in them. So a good time is had by all…

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  40. Excellent post. It reminds me of this 1944 Loony Tunes short about a chicken coop that gets visited by Frank Sinatra and Bing Crosby roosters. Swooning, hen hysteria, and copious amounts of egg laying ensue… Good for a laugh, and for a comic dose of reality.

    http://www.criticalcommons.org/Members/sammondn/clips/swooner/view

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  41. Works both ways. Gave rise to the apex slut, and normalcy of said slut.

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  42. You underestimate the marriage “bonus” that men married to hot women have. If you are married to a 9 (by a woman’s perception), then your SMV is 10. This means that hottie teenage babysitters will be acting odd around you, like playing with your kid on all fours with her ass in the air. You will see lots of ass crack awkwardly in front of your face. That’s how they tell you that your SMV is high and they want an affair. It is a 19 year old’s best ASSet.

    This gets to the polygamy issue. Yes, alpha males were historically men with large MARRIED harems. Given that these no longer exists, insane female behavior ensues and cads seek a soft polygamy lifestyle. Without the shackles of judeochristian religiosity, a pagan decadence is the only logical outcome.

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  43. Ok, bluesmen- know a bit about the Black & White of it. Muddy Waters said it & I heard it- “You White boys can play circles around us, but none o’ you all got the voice”. So, telling us we be girly sounding men I suppose… but a tip o’ the stingy brim to our fretwork! Still, this sterling CH post was about Alpha, no? Check this Alpha +. While watching “Room for One More” starring Cary Grant, this kid actor in the cast was quite good & pretty much dominated his scenes.
    Wondering why I didn’t see him in other productions, IMBd provided the answer. Figuring this child actor (12-13 in the film) had fallen into the black pit of kid actors after Hollywood was finished with them; see “Alfalfa”… but no!
    This kid, Clifford Tatum Jr. was a revelation. Let’s say you’re an actor who has worked with Cary Grant, ok? How much DHV could you extract out of THAT as you entered your teens? Enough to keep you in primo poon until at least your early twenties, no? Not enough AlphaLife for Cliff, though. He did a few tv roles after his one movie then left it all behind. Permanently. Moved to Florida; U of Miami, joined the ROTC, then Air Force in 1960. Became a fighter pilot, flew combat missions over Vietnam & Laos; and later a jet jockey on an aircraft carrier. For those that don’t know, carrier pilots are the Apex of our flyboys.
    He worked that for 3 years; retired as a Colonel. Enough Alpha Antics for this guy? Of course not! He then became a commercial airline pilot, (back when ”stews” were hot); a charter pilot, and after that a flying instructor (for shits & giggles?) and as of 2009 living in Redondo Beach, CA. Probably only coincidence, the South Bay is where the flight crews have their pads.

    Yep, sipping Mai-Tai’s while the young honeys sit enraptured by stories of daring-do… ah, Life’s Reward of Alphahood. Carpe Diem, brothers!

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  44. Contra this post:

    I believe that the vast majority of the “screaming fans” phenomenon of Elvis/Beatles/etc. were not spontaneous; they were (and are, seeJustin Bieber) carefully crafted record-company plants who ginned up attention by a gullible media and led the easily-influenced masses into hero-worship.

    I think the record companies noticed that Sinatra’s fans could be a bit silly due to his fame/talent, and merely did the reverse: create hysterical fans to give the impression of fame/talent. Every single documentary about the Beatles shows those girls in the Ed Sullivan theater standing up and screaming for the cameras just waiting to film them. Not a coincidence

    Remember that unfamous dude who got merely a few of his female friends to follow him around a mall pretending he was famous, and it turned into a near-riot? :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Ko6Xfa84w

    It’s the same reason that Hard Rock/metal bands suddenly had crazy preachers claiming that their lyrics were “the work of the devil” or how new rappers always, amazingly, are in very public, pro-wrestling style feuds with rappers of exactly equal levels of fame, both of whom need a boost to get to the next level (of course some rappers get confused and “live their gimmick” but that’s neither here nor there).

    All 3 of which are examples of viral marketing campaigns by record companies for their acts.

    In Game terms, the record companies created social proof that led to credibility.

    Always remember when viewing a mass media phenomenon—–it could be a “work” (fake) phenomenon, or else it could be way over-emphasized due to the influence of people in power (see Kwanza ).

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  45. on December 31, 2014 at 3:05 pm Charlesz Martel

    Years ago, (late 1970’s) the Fountainbleau in Miami Beach went through a full facelift, and all the furniture from the rooms was sold off. I was wandering through the rows of 25″ color TV’s, checking them out, as we needed to short term furnish a house. On the back of one of the TV’s was written ” Frank Sinatra fucked me in this room. He has a small dick but knows how to use it!”. Just my .02.

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  46. […] The rot was present in the 50’s. Related: The era of the apex alpha. […]

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