Beta Or Omega Male?

Many readers sent CH a link to this story for inclusion in the Beta of the Year contest. But is he really beta, or is he that lowest of life forms, the omega male?

A Chinese man dropped to his knees for 30 days (and 30 nights?) in an act of contrition to win back his girlfriend. (No word on what he did that pissed her off. Journalism!)

The Beta Male of the Year series is meant as a learning tool. Betas are put under the spotlight to help readers understand the kinds of commonly encountered male behaviors that cause vaginas to snap shut. Extreme supplication like that committed by the Chinaman in the story above isn’t very helpful by dint of its rarity and absurdity. Most beta males aren’t committing treason against their sex in quite so spectacular a fashion.

What this is a better example of is a greater omega male at a loss for what to do when the love of his life (and probably the first woman to sneak a peak at his chicken beak) breaks up with him. He reverts to classic omega form: Prostration, appeasement, self-abnegation, and public humiliation. The funny thing is, he doesn’t appear to be an especially ugly man, yet his theatrics are so off-putting to women that everyone reading this intuitively knows his girlfriend is filling with disgust at the prospect of laying with him again.

Omega males aren’t all sexless basement dwellers. The better species of them sometimes manage to get girlfriends (quality control notwithstanding to the contrary). What usually distinguishes greater omega males from beta males is the facility with which omegas will acquiesce to their gelding and the energy they bring to doing all the wrong things to woo women.





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  1. Is that a Chinaman….or John Boehner?

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    • That republican, love him or hate him, is a leader of a group of men who have numerous high quality groupies from every university that will gladly acquiesce to the wrinkled folds of his religious rod penetrating their young, naive little bodies. He has young congressional interns of the conservative, blond hair types in and out (hehe) of his office.

      Case in point, this conservative NYL: Emily O’Neill in the Ron Paul campaign.

      Plus numerous others I have seen. Bill Clinton would have loved to have had that as his little protege.

      The thing is, powerful men, whether they are your favored leader or not, can draw the poosey like very few others.

      This Chinaman on the other hand, is probably in love with a chubster, or will be whenever the first female walks by that will give his little longin the time of day.

      Then even that female will be repulsed when he commits the same act with her.

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  2. on November 15, 2014 at 10:12 am milky_discharge

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  3. “Greater Omega males”?

    I really like this website…but…seriously?

    This is also lacking in context. Chinese culture is a huge, huge thing. You can spend your whole life studying it and still never really understand. This goes for Chinese people, too.

    In China, “boyfriend” pretty much means “fiancee”. They don’t really have an intermediate step between “no relationship” and “planning to get married”.

    There are all sorts of things that could have caused this extreme reaction and a lot of them start with “his mother made him do it.”

    Another story was the Chinese man who bought 99 Iphones, arranged them in the shape of a heart, and the woman rejected him anyway. Just about everyone on Weibo laughed at him and called him a loser, showing that beta males inspire disgust globally.

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    • This is also lacking in context. Chinese culture is a huge, huge thing.

      But women operate the same way all over the world, and are turned off by the same things. If East Asian culture tolerates low-value-male supplication like this, it would certainly help explain why so many Asian women are getting with white guys.

      Another story was the Chinese man who bought 99 Iphones, arranged them in the shape of a heart, and the woman rejected him anyway. Just about everyone on Weibo laughed at him and called him a loser, showing that beta males inspire disgust globally.

      Good. We need beta shaming just as much as fat-chick shaming.

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      • Oh man, do we ever! Tired of the fat chicks I see all over the USA. And every time I train a young man on how chicks work, invariably, some omega male comes by trying to tell me how his online white knighting will land him his dream woman someday. Where they will WOW into the sun together.

        The silver lining is, the young male sees it, and the seed is planted. Every experience with women he has will be a little bit of water or sunlight to help it grow into understanding, a healthy distrust of women is required to know if and when you should ever pull the trigger on an LTR. Let alone marriage.

        The more men who gain their confidence back, plus the less fat acceptance their is, the sooner feminism will die.

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    • “chinese culture is a huge,huge thing”
      ———————————————————

      Yeah. Ok,

      Like EATING the poor (humans)… eating dogs, cats, supplicating in public for 30 days to try to impress a female etc etc.

      Your’e right there’s a lot we don’t understand about chinese “culture” but we definitely don’t care to either.

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      • YNG, you’re a weird one. You get some things right but you also make a lot of assumptions that are incorrect. I think you are very young. You will learn more and get wiser, I’m sure. Until then, don’t make such wild generalizations. Don’t take this as an insult, I am being honest.

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      • It’s probably a butthurt asian. Although we have things I hate about our own culture like cuck porn.

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    • Exactly, you could spend a whole life learning how to cook dog meat…then cat meat. next life…

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    • That’s why Asian girls would crawl over glass to mate with a White guy. Their greater understanding of Chinese culture. Over Chinese guys.

      Some stuff really is global.

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      • @Flavia no, the reason Chinese/Asian girls want to meet western guys is because it gives them a chance to be free from the judgmental busybodies inside Asian culture. EVERY Chinese girl I went out with got all sorts of “He’s just fucking you…” type gossip from friends pissing in her ear.

        Even the Filipino girls I date get stares from older Filipinas who outright ask her “What are you doing with HIM” when we’re waiting for a bus or in line somewhere.

        Can you imagine a total stranger walking up to you when you’re with your same culture date/bf and asking “Why are you with HIM?”

        So they hate the busy-bodies and it also gives them a chance to experience someone more masculine, more honest in many ways, more ready to tease and not supplicate.

        But again, the flipside to this is that Chinese girls are often overly jealous and suspicious of their western boyfriend/lovers. EVERY Chinese girl I went out with would ask me “Are you fucking so and so??”

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      • Well, weren’t you ‘just fucking them?’ Doesn’t sound overly suspicious to me 🙂

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  4. I think Eastern Orientals are more naïve about love and marriage due to cultural upbringing – i.e. the usual romantic myths with a Chinese flavor. I’m assuming this guy is Chinese. He looks it. There are a lot of mitigating factors here that help explain his behavior. Basically, he wasn’t shown what right looks like in life. Then there is the issue of one child per family. Siblings teach us a lot about social interaction. Not having them makes for a solipsistic society which aggravates the underlying problems here. That also means fewer opportunities because there are literally fewer girls than boys due to selective abortions in China. As far as to why she dumped him, he’s a suck up and doesn’t get it. She’s thinking a man like this can never protect me or fend for me properly because he lacks agency and self confidence.

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    • People from there do seem to grow up in a kind of time warp, relative to the west. Trying to apply the social mores of 1948 small town Kansas in 2014 Hollywood Babylon.
      Most Asian girls don’t have very much of a figure, making them look sort of like young boys with long hair, and they also have cash registers instead of souls, minds and hearts. No thanks.
      I might make an exception for a Japanese lady who sometimes appears in one of my favorite haunts, but she’s married and quite serious about it.

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  5. I can’t even understand this guy’s mindset, his POV. Suppose the sex with this chick was impossibly good, like “this is better than my heroin addiction plus every porn movie ever made!” And she’s rich. And owns a liquor store. And does threesomes with her gorgeous twin sister who is equally into you. And this would get both of them back. I could probably see doing this for a few hours if I could pull an astronomically higher SMV than otherwise – levels that probably do not actually exist. 30 days (and counting)? Yikes.

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    • There’s a high probability he won’t get sex again or at least not for along time. There’s more men than women in the breeding ages due to the one child policy. He probably wasn’t getting much sex as it was but a little is better than none.

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      • It helps so much here to adopt the classical Greco-Roman point of view {CHAOS, EROS, ARTEMIS/DIANA, CRONUS/SATURN}. In the begining, there was feminine insanity, which lead a purposeless un-existence, until the masculine [EROS] purposefully arose and impregnated CHAOS, leading to the birth of mankind. Thereafter the woman [ARTEMIS/DIANA] was responsible for inspiring the hunt, whereas the man [CRONUS/SATURN] was responsible for capturing, corraling, taming, plowing, seeding, and, nine months later, harvesting from the object of the hunt.

        Point being that China has extinction-level fertility rates because Chinese men are so enpussified that they have everything completely ass-backwards: In kneeling before his woman, the little cunt is acting like the hunted, and is begging his woman to play the role of the hunter. Which of course is completely nuts, and will very quickly lead to the extinction of the Han race.

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    • and know what? That type of shit would NEVER GET HER BACK.

      Call this guy what he is: a pathetic loser

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  6. Great post. There are tons of these stories where I live in Asia…the situation is this: Asian guys (and many western guys) THINK Chinese women WANT this type of guy….it’s the ideal: pedestalize the girl, she showers you with love.

    It’s the complete opposite. They view Chinese guys as providers and “nice”…but I have banged senseless girls of varying ages and it’s always the same situation: they want to be gamed by a MAN….dominant, rude, but “gentleman”—that balance is key…nice but strong.

    There are a few things also that are required. “Soft next” has a limited effect. Chinese girls prefer a direct situation: the want to be called out for their shitty behavior. It’s like they are passive aggressive in order to have their guy do it.

    I’ve just gotten smarter at this. I’ve called out a variety of girls I went out with and some I was just banging for shitty behavior. It usually has to be something along the lines this, a text I found quite effective in dealing with shitty Chinese girl behavior: “Say what you wanna say…ask what you wanna ask…face to face…and don’t be a little baby bitch”.

    This simple text is all you need to establish dominance, demonstrate commitment and also walk away. Dude in the photo should have had this text before he acted like a faggot.

    Also, what works with Chnese girls is the “takeaway”—call it Chinese takeaway. They aren’t used to guys walking away from them.

    My ex ex and crazy ex couldn’t believe that I would just say “ok” AFTER they broke up or acted up. They were speechless and would come running back like that supplicating beta to me offering to do whatever it took for me.;’

    So the secret to gaming Chinese girls: 1) game them hard 2) bang them nasty 3) be prepared for a barrage of drama….hold out for a week or 2 4) let them have it big time (see above text) 5) wait….and be prepared to disappear.

    It worked for a bit with Crazy ex but she was so good at out gaming me that we got stuck in stage 3.

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  7. a link on the story page brings us to another example:

    http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stories/man-kowtows-crawls-200m-on-knees-to-beg-wifes-forgiveness.html

    10 hours of crawling through china as an omega chump?

    lozlzozlozlzzolzzolzozlzz

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  8. Pathetic, yes, and we can expect more stories like this. Remember he’s in a country that has a 1.13 male/female sex ratio (according to the CIA World Factbook): this is a recipe for social disaster and for females to have the upper hand in mate selection, unless they overcome their stupid male birth preference.

    Woe to the 500 M or so Chinese omega/betas, because the 50 M or so Chinese alphas are the only ones looking at a least-bad scenario.

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  9. Interested to hear Great Books for Men’s take on this.

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  10. A few points about this. Firstly, perhaps you have go easy on him since I hear there is a shortage of women in China? Maybe that brings out this sort of display? Second, I wonder if you would call a sexless individual who does NOT act anything like this man an omega as well? Lastly, as far as being a “jerk” to women, does condescension count or does in only count if it is a lighthearted teasing?

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    • Firstly, perhaps you have go easy on him since I hear there is a shortage of women in China?

      The woman shortage in China actually hasn’t even hit yet. During the 1980s there was an echo boom, and sex selection hadn’t really taken off yet. It only really started getting bad for girls born in the 1990s.

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  11. “…and probably the first woman to sneak a peak at his chicken beak”

    You crack me up man.

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  12. Def omega.

    I can’t even.

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  13. The first comment says it all.

    “Usually guys who go to such extremes and persevere in doing so actually are that good anyway! He may be good to you at the time but if after marriage you do something that makes him unhappy, he’ll exhibit violent tendencies. These kind of people tend to be very extreme, so even if you can forgive him, I still don’t recommend that you marry him!”

    In other words…it’s good to do these extreme things as a man to build up your fortitude, but not to prove something to a woman.

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  14. Comment # 2.

    “30 days of kneeling without getting up is disguised emotional blackmail and soft violence. Such a man is not actually dependable, their personality/disposition too extreme, and their post-marriage behavior impossible to predict. I hope the girl will think carefully before acting…”

    Get that emotional blackmail.

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  15. Poor chap should just go to the local barbershop district which are ubiquitous in China.

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    • That’s half a decade old news. The pink barbershops are all closed down in medium-sized cities on up. It’s all part of the ‘civilized city’ initiative whereby the local government has to clean the place up, ban three-wheel pedicabs, shoeshiners, pink barbershops, and so on. Have to go out to the boonies to see them still around.

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  16. If we’re gonna sperg out over categorisation of male behaviour, Vox Day nailed it a while back. It’s not simply Alpha fux, Beta bux at all. Most betas are actually doing ok with women. They’re just keeping one on lock-down and putting up with female nonsense for the privilege (which yes, isn’t good.)
    But what’s often being called beta in here is beyond that. It’s really gamma or omega behaviour. And that dark triad shit? More likely sigma than alpha.
    So well done CH for calling this out, not as beta behaviour, but as some sort of OCD omega BS (more likely gamma, since this lad actually did presumably get out of Mamma Chang’s basement and within handholding distance of vajayjay at one point, but hey, I’m sperging now.)

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    • Yeah, I’d say gamma.

      On the Social axis, it’s:
      bitter omega < gamma < delta < beta < alpha

      and on the Asocial axis, it's:
      indifferent omega < asocial delta < sigma

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      • Yup. Well summarised, Corvinus. There IS a divide between Alpha (and Sigma) and Other, which is one of agency. Alphas and Sigmas have agency over their lives and the others don’t. But that doesn’t make all others Beta, and they all have differing levels of lack of agency. What’s summarised as Beta on CH is all too often Gamma or lower behaviour. Betas are the top 20% of non-Alphas. They’re who the red pill is for. They’re the only ones who can be saved by it. The Alphas don’t need it and the others wouldn’t benefit from it.
        Full disclosure: currently in monogamous LTR with 13 years younger and 3 points hotter, which in my book makes me upper Beta at most.

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      • um…gamma comes before delta in the greek alphabet

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      • @Skinner
        Yeah, I’ve been working my way up the asocial axis, and am now either a high asocial delta or a low sigma, based on the action I’ve been getting and the hotness of the women involved.

        @trav777
        Yeah, Vox went out of order with gamma and delta because delta is used in mathematics for transitional states or change. He never explained why he chose sigma for an asocial alpha, but it is likewise out of order.

        [CH: The CH alpha-beta-omega classification is designed with simplicity in mind. it eschews superfluous details — details like the different ways that alpha males pursue and seduce their quarry — in favor of core principles that illuminate rather than muddy understanding. sigmas and deltas et al are interesting proposals but without a foundational system will tend to confuse more than clarify.]

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      • Alpha, beta, omega and sigma I understand, but what the hell are gamma and delta?

        But Skinner is right, far too often what is really lower behavior is categorized as beta, which it shouldn’t be.

        Skinner, betas are not just the top 20 percent of non-Alphas though. I’d say betas are the majority of men.

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      • Full disclosure: currently in monogamous LTR with 13 years younger and 3 points hotter, which in my book makes me upper Beta at most.

        That doesn’t make you a beta, Skinner. This idea that being in a relationship makes someone a beta is absurd. I think it says more about the people who type it out than anything else. Alphas can be in relationships, of course they can. Rollo Tomassi and Mystery are both married, for example.

        [CH: right. LTRs aren’t the sole province of beta males. this is a common strawman of game denialists and various white knights: that the alpha male must necessarily be a skirt chasing cad who’s allergic to serious commitment with one woman. no. the alpha male is the man with OPTIONS. he could settle down, or he could play the field. the beta male usually only has the option of settling down.]

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      • Alpha, beta, omega and sigma I understand, but what the hell are gamma and delta?

        I personally like Vox Day’s six-way classification, but that’s because I have a very analytical mind. As CH pointed out, it confuses most people.

        A Vox beta is a CH lesser alpha (on the Social axis). He uses the same term “beta”, presumably because it’s like beta males in wolf packs, but it is confusingly not the same as a CH beta. A Vox delta is a CH beta.

        A gamma is a lesser beta who crosses into SJW territory and angrily denounces anybody who tries to tell him that his behavior isn’t going to work with (desirable) women. He tries desperately to fit into Social groups, and often ends up being a petty micromanaging dictator if he happens to get power, usually through PC. In fact, many Gammas are sickeningly PC in a bid to infiltrate Social groups.

        Amusingly, you can think of GamerGate as a war between SJWs (the SJW males are almost always gammas, like John Scalzi) and Asocials.

        Also, look at my post above displaying the Social and Asocial axes. In both cases, they’re both in CH omega < beta < alpha order, but the Social axis has five gradations and the Asocial axis only three.

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      • Full disclosure: currently in monogamous LTR with 13 years younger and 3 points hotter, which in my book makes me upper Beta at most.

        If you mean a Vox Beta, then good job.

        [CH: right. LTRs aren’t the sole province of beta males. this is a common strawman of game denialists and various white knights: that the alpha male must necessarily be a skirt chasing cad who’s allergic to serious commitment with one woman. no. the alpha male is the man with OPTIONS. he could settle down, or he could play the field. the beta male usually only has the option of settling down.]

        To put it another way: an alpha non-cad will go through a few relationships with smoking hot women and marry one, while an alpha cad will go through every HB5-7 range slut in town without settling.

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    • “Most betas are actually doing ok with women.”

      AG beta = CH greater beta/lesser alpha

      AG delta = CH beta

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  17. He doesn’t stand a Chinaman’s chance…

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  18. Nah, this is Beta. The Omega would give himself a shot of Synthol. Betas beg, Omegas douche. Betas back down from the Alphas, Omegas resent them and wish they could kill them. Alphas look like John Wayne, Betas look like William H Macy and Omegas look like the Jersey Shore.

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  19. Excuse the double-post, but I think the majority of the manosphere as oversimplified the relationship of Alpha/Beta/Omega, the origin of which is in the similarities of behavior of human (and primate) males to that of Wolves. Among wolves (and men) Alphas lead, Betas follow, and Omegas rebel against the Alphas (often by trying to posture and show off). Betas beg for female attention, Omegas show off for it, while Alphas get it for simply standing there.

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    • I don’t necessarily think that it’s meant to parallel wolves. It’s simply meant to indicate men who do much better than average with women (alpha), about average (beta), or much worse than average (omega).

      The thing about alphas who lead and betas who follow does seem to be reflected in Vox’s seven sociosexual categories.

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    • Many forget that alpha and beta are on a sliding scale.

      Also, let’s remember that the terminology was meant to ONLY be about the ability to pick up women. Not about general success in life. There are generals, brilliant inventors, CEOs, movie stars and statesmen who are betas when it comes to women.

      Sometimes we see the stories in the media, showing highly successful men act foolish. Like the billionaire who lost a fortune to his first wife, and then again to his second wife, because he didn’t have a prenup. Or General Petraeus writing sappy love letters to his mistress. Or James Franco trying to hook up with a teenage girl online, holding up a sign with her name on it in a picture, which she then showed to the media. The chat shows he didn’t flirt with her, no escalation whatsoever, just asked her to meet with him in a hotel.

      The reason we use “alpha” and “beta” is that “PUA” wasn’t usable anymore. When the name “manosphere” was invented for those who started in PUA forums but then moved on to a wider message, they couldn’t keep using the word PUA for successful men. That belonged to the old community.

      Making up a new name that will stick is hard. The best way to do it is to take something that already has real-life validation. So someone came up with “alpha” because of wolves, and then of course “beta” follows.

      To a large degree these work. Alpha wolves get most of the females. But when the terminology is applied to everything a man is, it cracks. Success with women often comes to those who are successful in other ways too, yes, but there is not a perfect correlation.

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      • It comes from wolves? I thought it came from Brave New World.

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      • The reason we use “alpha” and “beta” is that “PUA” wasn’t usable anymore.

        Well, “PUA” actually could still be used (with “AFC” for beta), but words look better than acronyms and are more intuitive.

        It comes from wolves? I thought it came from Brave New World.

        Nah, Brave New World types were ranked by IQ, not sexual prowess, and ranged from Alpha to Epsilon.

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      • Actually, it came from canine social mechanics and I think it was first about general success in life — being dominant, NOT about the ability to get women. That usage came later.

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      • Well, “PUA” actually could still be used (with “AFC” for beta), but words look better than acronyms and are more intuitive.

        Yes, but read the sentence I wrote after that. What I mean with “not usable” is that PUA was a word belonging to the PUA scene, and the new scene, the “manosphere”, needed a new word, or it would just sound like it was still part of the PUA scene. (Not to denigrate the PUA scene. The teachings about how to pick up women are very much the same. It’s just that the manosphere was about that and also more things.)

        I miss the word AFC though. I think it is more to the point than beta.

        Actually, it came from canine social mechanics and I think it was first about general success in life — being dominant, NOT about the ability to get women. That usage came later.

        Yes. Exactly as I write. It came from wolves – that’s how it was explained in the beginning, and that’s where it came from. But here’s the confusion: when it pertains to wolves, it is about their total success. When used in discussions about game, it means ONLY the ability to pick up women.

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    • on November 15, 2014 at 3:16 pm dagenhamblonde

      Manosphere definitions don’t match wolfpack definitions. Here, alphas have no problem finding new sexual partners as easily as walking into a bar, betas can get sex in the context of a committed relationship where they trade security for sexual access, and omegas find it difficult to impossible to seduce a woman in any setting.

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      • I think omegas can get with women, it’s just that they don’t want to be with the 1s, 2s, and 3s that they can get. Better to have nothing.

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    • Your whole post is just wrong.

      “I think the majority of the manosphere as oversimplified the relationship of Alpha/Beta/Omega, the origin of which is in the similarities of behavior of human (and primate) males to that of Wolves”

      The wolfpack thing was what feminists used to discredit evo psych when to anyone with any kind of intelligence understood that the alpha/beta paradigm was relating humans to our closet animal link in that of the Great Apes who do have a very strict alpha/beta hierarchy.

      “Betas beg for female attention, Omegas show off for it, while Alphas get it for simply standing there.”

      Alphas actively go after pussy while betas use passive low risk low percentage supplicating tactics because they are losers. So no alphas don’t simply stand there, they aggressively go after what they want because they are confident in their abilities and have the unspoken social green light.

      Omegas aren’t even in the game. They are secluded from it. The Jersey Shore guys whilst being brutish are considered alphas because they get laid by attractive women.

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      • Alpha/beta when it was invented in the early manosphere was about wolves, not apes, but you’re right about connecting it to evolutionary psychology.

        Betas are not losers, however. Only when it comes to getting women. The vast majority of men are betas, and they can still excel in other fields. Again: alpha/beta was invented for the early manosphere as a replacement for PUA/AFC which was terminology that belonged to the PUAsphere. Alpha/beta were words taken from observations about wolves. But while in wolf-land it means overall success, in manosphere talk about dating it meant ONLY the success with women. Men can be successful in other walks of life without getting women, and men can be successful with women while being unsuccessful about other things. Even though, of course, success in the rest of your life should facilitate your success with women.

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  20. @HABD/YaReally ok timely update for you guys on theatre actress I’ve been banging who suddenly went cold. She came out to a party I was at this weekend. Again was ice cold when I came by to say hi and blanked me again.

    So after considering options, went with my trusted text:

    Me: ‘we don’t keep things from each other…say what you wanna say…ask what you wanna ask…face to face…and…don’t be a little baby bitch.

    Her: 15 minutes later: “I feel not good for our distinct (not sure what this is…intimacy maybe??), is too close. I wanna keep it simple”

    There ya go…surface the issue directly, get this. I think…she’s afraid of her feelings for me.

    I didn’t reply. Thought I’d let her hamster spin wondering what I thought of this.

    Not sure how to reply. Any input is appreciated. I’d love to keep seeing her but the “keep it simple” suggests no banging in Chinese girl language. I can’t be lead into the “simple is good” trap.

    Up for any input on this. On the main topic, just proves if you bang these girls good and hard and don’t take their passive aggressive shit, they fall…hard.

    What’s my next move if I wanna keep banging her? Clearly i’m in the alpha position here with hamster in overdrive…forebrain/hindbrain conflict in plain sight.

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    • See Wala you love the drama. I’d just ignore her and. Ring New girls to your parties. She wants it she can come and get it. But that approach avoids the drama.

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      • However… Another interpretation of her text is she doesn’t want to be seen in public with you. Social circle pressure. Which as an older dude you will get. Which is cool but arguing against this is I seem to recall she hasn’t hooked up with you or you seeing her outside of class for a while? Is that correct.

        If it’s just social circle pressure ignore her at the gatherings and hit it away from the crowd. She should be down for that if she is still into you.

        If so bringing New girls to the parties still helps you. Lol.

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    • You may have a rare covert fuck buddy. I had a ‘gf’ that I treated like a gf in the sense that I started spending time with her w/o my dick in her. From it her resentment grew. She is probably a broken woman (and which ones aren’t?), but she may be divinely broken.

      I would try expressing emotional detachment to her face yet enquiring about sex. Keep it casual but don’t say it in words and don’t spend time with her unless it is for sex. Don’t care what she does otherwise. Keep your masculine emotional energy rare and precious. Virtually nothing for now. If she ever stops putting out, you may add some light beta feelings. Women are the perfect litmus test of lower masculinity if you go by nearness to vag penetration. Be the initial guy that did not care for her. Be respectful, but to yourself first and thus passively a ‘dick’ that women love. Do what you did but do it bigger and better, if you know what I mean. If you don’t, this is not the correct advice.

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      • “I think…she’s afraid of her feelings for me.”

        My suggestion boils down to considering if instead she’s afraid of your (beta) feelings for her. AWALT

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      • “My suggestion boils down to considering if instead she’s afraid of your (beta) feelings for her. AWALT”

        This. We’re never afraid of our feelings for you. If I’m really into a guy and he’s trying to contact me, I’m as happy as a clam. I use this line when I’m trying to get rid of a guy, wala.

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      • @Amy thanks…I got the idea. These are all learning experiences for me so i’m keen to understand what exactly happened. In this case, I think it was a situation where she suddenly started pining away for some ex bf and pushed me away.

        It has very little to do with me or my game. I think I was the rebound guy for a while. It was fun while it lasted. One day it was on, next day she was distant. We never fought…I only contacted her once a week and that was usually for logistics and when we hung out it was always fun and positive. But I think she did let me know there were some personal issues she had: meds, history of emotional problems, some lurking ex bf who dumped her so it is what it is.

        Best thing now is to disappear and focus on other people and things. They always come back and if that happens i’ll be in a stronger position by keeping my frame. That’s the learning for me.

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    • on November 15, 2014 at 1:23 pm having a bad day

      @wala

      sounds like ASD…

      agree to talk about the ‘simple’ (easy enough to misconstrue this as banging only…lol) …meet up (no sexualizing in texting…) with logistics sorted… escalate, isolate, etc…more comfort/rapport immediately after…

      otherwise, soft next…ping in 2-3 weeks…

      good luck!

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      • @habd, Reality/Sentient Yes…this is more the ASD than anything. Remember, we only see each other around once a week…I checked my texts, they’re all just logistics. When we’ve been together we’re all over each other…lots of kino, great rapport, then banging, comfort after—no mistakes.

        Drama? It’s par for the course with ALL these girls. The only difference here is instead of flipping out like I did in the past I’ve tapped into this girl’s need and desire for a man in her life by holding my frame.

        I think the social circle pressure got to her 10 days ago, she is emotional and rational—you can see that my being aloof, with other girls etc has amped up the desirability. It’s not a case of “let’s be friends”.

        It’s a case of “my feelings are all over the place right now….it feels weird…I just broke up with my bf….I feel guilty…my friends are asking questions….omg omg omg…you’re a foreigner and i’m Chinese….but wow…I like this….omg omg”

        She loves banging me. She also loves the covert romance. Finally I have not supplicated but I have been dominant and not shown much emotion. My Chinese girl text worked. The going aloof produced a lot of tension for a week—radio silence. Followed by a simple approach which was rebuffed. I didn’t react at the time.

        The reason that text works so well with Chinese girls is because they have been conditioned to be pedestalized. My text makes clear my frame. I don’t ask “What’s wrong?” I challenge her to stop acting like a “little baby bitch” and say it…she replied in 25 minutes. So it’s on.

        Hamster in over-drive. I was thinking along the lines of HABD…..

        “gay. it is simple… i’m a man you’re a woman. it’s time to meet up. what days are you free? away Monday, otherwise free”

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      • @HABD I wrote: Gay. Simple is…i’m a man you’re a woman…not a little girl. look me in the eyes. Let’s meet up what days you free?”

        Her: No….it’s enough. And nothing wrong with being gay.

        Soft next… This was my way of setting the frame and not mucking around. She’d expect that from an older guy even if her hamster was spinning out of control.

        My take: girl is having an explosion of emotions, friends giving her grief, general nuttiness….hamster in over-drive…explodes…pushes away. Classic forebrain/hindbrain conflict. I know this because we only saw each other once…maybe every two weeks with only logistical texts or one word pings between us.

        If anything teaching moments arise out of this, will post again.

        The only teaching moment here is that you can do everything right game-wise and girls have their own shit going on in their heads that often sabotages their interactions. That’s why a dude needs more than one thing on the go.

        For girls like this, it’s easier to be with someone “simple” ie easier to control. She knows she can’t control me so it’s freaking her out. Been through this with Chinese girls many many times. They always come back.

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      • She has met some one else between your shag sessions, some one with resource potential/fame/status/other.

        Having you disrupt that, accidentally perhaps, at a party for instance, has her freeze/go cold on you.

        She can’t be seen as a party/easy girl now that the other male is in the picture, especially if your in the vicinity, your could disrupt her plans/planning.

        Go extra cold, suggest meeting out of the lime light for your off stage rendevous

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      • @Master Since the topic is Chinese girls and Chinese men….the contrast someone like me presents is stark. A girl who is used to beta men finds a guy who bangs her like a Shaolin monk bangs a gong, treats her well yet keeps his frame—we saw each other once a week and banging was usually part of the meeting—and yet it’s “too close”.

        This means that the pressures of being out of control of her feelings feel overwhelming.

        This is a situation I’ve seen with my last 4 serious Chinese girlfriends. Regardless of how they were in public, or with their families and friends….somehow I brought out an intensity they hadn’t ever experienced.

        This one had complained to me her father and ex bf were constantly checking up on her—“too much”….But in my case it was logistical texts and once a week meet ups….”too close”…

        Chinese girls want the security of a provider but as you can see from the videos i posted below and original story DETEST him for supplicating.

        I know another hot Chinese girl who is with a nice dude who does everythign with her. yet she privately complains that he doesn’t have a life outside of her…ripe for being banged when the right guy comes by and games her.

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      • on November 16, 2014 at 2:22 am Master Blaster

        @wala

        Points taken.

        Here’s my read.

        She’s telling you the ‘distance’ between you is ‘too close’ for her, chick logic.

        I suggest you let her know for next time you ‘need some distance’ between you, distance in time as well as space, see how she responds.

        Unless your thinking is just to bang her gong irrespective, like a metronome.

        You’re on the ground there and know the local situ better, apply to suit, or maybe she will become No. 5

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      • @MasterBlaster “distinct” = distance in her rushed spell check. “I feel not good for our distance, is too close” … Chick logic indeed.

        Right….I didn’t bother responding after she blew off my invite to meet up. It’s incredible.

        I’m banging smoking hot chicks but these things have a life of 5-9 months…it’s intense, then suddenly they just pull away and blame me for not wanting to commit (last one) or being too close (this one).

        The other side of this is there is another girl 31, hot, I banged her after having her give me a year of IOI’s. She’s now chasing while I’m the one not giving a shit.

        Then there are others who I have in a rotation where I meet up with them every couple of weeks—they too aren’t “weird”…yet.

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    • > “I feel not good for our distinct (not sure what this is…intimacy maybe??), is too close…” Not sure how to reply…

      How about we get the CORRECT TRANSLATION first before we start speculating as to the true nature of the situation? BTW, glass-is-half full here, so it could be used as an opportunity – either ask her for help in translating the gook hieroglyphics to proper Engrish [and be forced to listen to an hour of horseshit and nonsense and gibberish out of her], or else [and this is really evil] go to another smoking hawt gookette [preferably the original gookette’s best friend], who speaks really good Engrish, and bring that second gookette up to speed on all of the prior fornications between you and the original gookette, and get the second gookette to help you with the correct Engrish translation, and then, with that knowledge in hand, walk the second gookette through the process of how you are going to go about gaming the first gookette in your reply.

      You do understand where this is headed with the second smoking hawt gookette, right? And if they’re best friends, that you’re building yourself a menage-a-trois harem of sister wives, right? [Although, again, this is really, really, really evil.]

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  21. https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/game-and-life-trajectory/

    was reading this classic chateau post, really rings true with me now, game giving you complete choice and freedom with women really does change the course of your life.

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  22. I heard from a Chinese girl that all the guys who go to her elite university in Shanghai spend their time playing MMOs. They even play it in school during lunch. So she has no interest in any of them, they give her no reason to be interested.

    No wonder then that when they do wake up and look for a girl, they choose a way reminiscent of what they have read in old fairytales or seen in a Japanese love anime. These guys are in serious need of learning game. Imagine how just the basics would help them enormously.

    This reminds me of an earlier story:

    Dumped for being ‘poor’, Chinese man books movie theatre for $40,000

    BEIJING: A jilted Chinese man spent $40,000 to book four entire IMAX cinemas for first-day showings of the latest “Transformers” movie on Friday to prove his ex-girlfriend was wrong when she dumped him for being poor seven years ago, he said.

    …….

    Using the online handle Chicken Run 1234 and a profile image as a Na’vi warrior from the 2009 Hollywood blockbuster Avatar, he called on internet users to spread the message “until she sees it” and promised to reward reposters with free tickets.

    He reported that his old girlfriend contacted him by phone. “Both had put the feud behind them, he indicated, but there was no hope of rekindling their relationship.” What feud? She didn’t want him, end of story.

    And this:

    Chinese man buys 99 iPhone 6s to propose to girlfriend on Single’s Day – only to be rejected

    The programmer, from Guangzhou province, spent the equivalent of two years salary on buying 99 iPhone 6s in order to – presumably – impress his girlfriend.

    Arranging roughly £50,000 worth of Apple technology in a heart shape outside their workplace, the tech worker clutched a bouquet of flowers as a small crowd gathered to watch the young man’s heartfelt proposal – and to capture the moment on their smart phones.

    Unfortunately, the man’s girlfriend was less than impressed and turned him down in front of friends and colleagues, who then immediately shared the exchange on China’s social media network Weibo.

    Good luck finding a girlfriend again. One who isn’t simply poor and hopes to get his money.

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    • @Arbiter Chinese girls want a guy to dominate them but shit-test until they get it…unfortunately sometimes their shit tests just become too unbearable and they sabotage things…with me anyway.

      But for the local guys, yah, they’re providers. They have group dates, they buy flowers. There’s very little game. That’s probably why since learning game 5 years ago I’ve been so successful.

      This nonsense about Chinese girls being bad lays and conservative is horse shit. I’ve banged HK, Taiwan, Mainland girls…they’re all mental in bed and all read “50 Shades…” and have fantasies of Beckham and Brad Pitt….

      Then they morph into these beta provider relationships that bore them to tears.

      The downside of this is that because the local guys are so beta…the hot girls shit test like crazy and you really need to keep your frame. You need tighter game with these girls because they have been so spoiled and entitled by their doting dads and their cheesy dickless boyfriends….

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      • ^ my experience exactly. The shit tests from hot rich spoiled mainland girls are nuclear. But nexting them works oh do well. Most have never been dumped and walking away makes them chase relentlessly, like cats chasing a laser dot. The kinky sex gets them hooked too.. Choking, spanking etc

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    • ….And of course this one, but though it took place in Hong Kong the culprit is some mystery meat from New Zealand:

      Guy Spends a Year Tracking Down Woman He Met Last New year’s Eve after She Tells Him “Find Me”

      A lovestruck Kiwi tracked down the object of his affection on Facebook following a year-long search – only for her to go to ground and delete every one of her social media accounts.

      Reese McKee, 25, from Wellington, New Zealand, met an American girl called “Katie” last New Year’s Eve in Hong Kong.

      He found the girl just crying at the side of the road after she had lost her friends and become lost.

      They went out drinking and dancing, and eventually parted ways around 6am on New Year’s Day, when ‘Katie’ found her friends again.

      Although the pair did not exchange email addresses, numbers, or even surnames, ‘Katie’s’ last words as she drifted off back to her friends were apparently “find me.”

      McKee took her at her word. Armed with only a picture he found on his phone the next day, he started to look for her.

      “I got the idea to use Facebook in June but the timing wasn’t right. I think this time of year people have hope for the magic (of Christmas),” McKee told the New Zealand Herald.

      She “was lost”? Remember to look critically at news stories. We don’t know why she was crying. Maybe she just got dumped by some other guy, but of course she wouldn’t say that to this beta. Or maybe she did tell him, but he is lying to the reporter. And maybe she wasn’t crying at all, he just made that up. People usually don’t lie outright, but they distort things every day. She could have just not been smiling on New Years Eve, and that’s enough for him to say she was crying, someone for him to rescue.

      Of course she didn’t want to see him again. If she would have, she would have given him her email address. Note that you can find stories about this that falsely state that she gave him her email, which twists the story in his favor – goes to show the dishonesty of journalists.

      And ignore his justifications and he is simply an online stalker. Who takes this to the media because he’s drooling for fame. So that her name, if they publish it, would be connected to this story forever. What an ass.

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      • Kiwi women are not supposed to be very pretty and have a high notch count on average. It’s a feminist paradise so they tend to dress down and avoid looking good. I think many of the same issues we’ve discussed with Chinese affect the Kiwi men as well because of it. You hear similar complaints from Scandinavia about the men there.

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    • This those additional examples, and given the ratio of men to women in China that drives chinamen to take black brides in Africa (and may try for new territory in a war per ecological ‘intelligent design’ pressure), it is only reasonable that a beta would try to be the #1 beta. Sovereignty is the rarest of wealth, which is why most men must fail if women are protected from private male ownership.

      “China had 697.2 million males and 663.4 million females in 2013, which meant that there were 33.8 million more men than women, head of China’s National Bureau of Statistic, (NBS) Ma Jiantang, today said.” from a 20 Jan 14 article at ndtv.com.

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      • I question the statistics above because it works out to 106 men per 100 women. This is an old article quote, from 2004:

        “From a relatively normal ratio of 108.5 boys to 100 girls in the early 80s, the male surplus progressively rose to 111 in 1990, 116 in 2000, and is now is close to 120 boys for each 100 girls at the present time, according to a Chinese think-tank report.”

        We might square these statistics if the first do NOT include chinamen in Africa. I am not sure a reliable assessment of it can be made online. However, it must not be too lopsided, lol:

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      • This those additional examples, and given the ratio of men to women in China that drives chinamen to take black brides in Africa (and may try for new territory in a war per ecological ‘intelligent design’ pressure),

        Africa is the only possible source of brides in the entire world for such a large excess of men as China has (or India, which also has a huge excess of males). They don’t practice sex selection in Africa, plus the continent has the youngest population on the planet.

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      • Should make the men go to Southeast Asia instead of China, I’d think. SE Asia would only benefit from this, as the Chinese are in general more industrious and better at business. Chinese already dominate the rice trade and most of the GDP in most of the SE Asian countries. I saw a chart of that once, very enlightening.

        The Chinese government is being foolish when it bans pornography and prostitution. (Even though prostitution is widespread anyway. But local bosses once in a while seek to score points by arresting some prostitutes and shaming them in public, to the shrieks of angry puritans. Then all goes back to normal again.) With such a surplus of men – most of which will not move abroad, they simply can’t – they need an outlet. Apparently this increases gang activity. Disillusioned young men turning to gangs to escape a boring ordinary life where they can’t get a girlfriend if they don’t have a college education.

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      • “Should make the men go to Southeast Asia instead of Africa”

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      • China (and Mars) needs women?

        Eh… someone wanna tell the folks in the picture they’re going the wrong way?

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      • Leave it to the black guy to find the only fat woman in Guangdong.

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      • Eh… someone wanna tell the folks in the picture they’re going the wrong way?

        True… but, OTOH, blacks love BBWs.

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      • on November 16, 2014 at 2:11 pm Hammer of Love

        ” The Chinese government is being foolish when it bans pornography and prostitution. ”

        Actually, the Chinese government is right on this one. Pornography is a proven tool of the YKW for the control and debasement of any society that its introduced into. If they allowed it, it would quickly fall under the control of multinationals, which are actually mainly run by the YID. “Sexual freedom ” and ” Feminism ” would quickly follow at which point the complete takeover of Chinese society would almost be complete.

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  23. is that a picture of Arbiter?

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  24. Kind of off topic. I think a really good way to tell how “natural alpha” you are is to look at how you reacted when your “first love LTR” (or whatever) broke up with you. Did you go on your knees for 30 days? –> not natural at all.
    Did you care but not even have an urge to contact? Then go out and hook up with another girl guilt free? –> natural alpha.

    Then if you’re in between you can gauge your natural alphaness.

    The only thing is when anyone has a strong connection to a girl for 1+ years it’s hard to not give a fuck….you have to be a legitamate sociopath and I think sociopath is in the genes.

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  25. He’s neither Beta nor Omega. He’s Asian. They have alien minds that can’t be related to those of humans.

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  26. Women or no, he’ll always have a place at the Buddah’s table.

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  27. What if his act of contrition to his girlfriend is for shagging her sister and mom ragged in a menage a trois?

    Would that lighten the omega load any?

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    • There is that old joke when a beta male approches a 40-ish woman in a bar
      Having been drunk he guthers enough of courage and admits to her that his dream has always been to a threesome with mother and daughter
      They end up going to her appartment, where an old woman oppens the door
      Oh mom, says woman, it is good that you are steel awake

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      • Heh, heh… I told a variation of that one, right here at the chateau, awhile back.

        One of my few jests that didn’t fall flat. 😉

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  28. Beta of the month nomination:

    The guy with the “demeaning” shirt from that space agency that landed the probe on a Komet. That shirt prevents women to get into STEM….

    He apologized for it in tears?!?! Have you seen him, big fellow crying over upsetting people with a darn ugly shirt?

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    • what did you expect of him? You thought a guy working on a spaceship was gonna be jocky alpha? I mean, FFS, he’s European!

      This is exactly what the feminazis wanted from him, a pound of flesh.

      Everyone already knows women don’t do STEM because they are inferior at it and don’t like it anyway.

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    • This tool was just trying to fit into that hollywood trope of the slightly wacky and crazy, laid back, ‘nerdy-cool’ scientist that you always see in movies of Michael Bay, Riddley Scott etc. See for instance the ‘scientists’ in the recent Prometheus.

      The shirt was carefully picked in advance to stand out and be this wacky kind of scientist, NOT because “he just doesn’t give a damn”.

      His reaction is therefore not in the least surprising.

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  29. Nope. The Omega male is the one who women find repugnant, period. If a man can attract at least one women into a sexual relationship then he’s a Beta male.

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  30. CH, any chance for a post dealing with struggles of introverted readers?

    [CH: introvert game has been covered. check the archives.]

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    • CH, I respect you more than anyone, unfortunately the archives do not contain much on the topic. I would like to mention that I read every single post on this website and hone my English while doing so, but the actual game techniques for the opening aren’t of much use to an introvert.

      Consider this: as someone who doesn’t enjoy parties all that much and haven’t attended many throughout my life, I forced myself to go clubbing 3 times in a row this month [all by myself]. I just got home from one.

      I’m a good looking guy to be more precise so I happened to catch some pretty girl’s attention while observing a dancing crowd with a beer glass in lowered hand and contrapposto stance by the wall. During those 3 times, 5 young nubile women positioned themselves strategically in front of me, not more than 20 cm [we don’t use your american non-metric system in Poland] away. I’m not even counting fleeting glances sent by fatties and less attractive women from across the dance floor.

      The pickle is I’m unable to start the interaction unless the girl opens her mouth first. I’m not sex-starved or anything, but it has always been a girl who did the first step. I imagine I would be drowning in pussy if not for the handicapping fear of breaking the ice first.

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      • Hey bro, for an introvert like you the best advice is, something I haven’t seen mentioned much here (but is my secret to how I get 90% of my women) and it’s DANCE GAME.

        You dont have to break the ice with any words, just go out on the dance floor where people are dancing and start dancing. If you can dance on beat in no time you’ll be dancing with the four hottest girls in the room. Give it time though 30 min+. Girls love to dance and want to say they went out dancing with some hot guy.

        It works for me everytime no matter where in the world I am.
        I was just in Iceland, half hour into dancing next thing you know I’m dancing with 4 of the hottest girls in Iceland and they all want to share me. Doesnt matter where you are, it always works.
        Of course you have to be able to stay on beat learn the songs before hand if you cant feel it out, doesnt have to be anything fancy though. you dont need fancy moves etc. Its easy.

        Next thing you know when theres a break you say hey I’m ____ and boom theyre going to the afterparty a YOUR place or hotel. Seriously 99% success rate EASY!

        Then you skip all cold approach but another secret I use if I do cold approach is, if they reject i say to myself “oh she’s obviously a lesbian or most likely a trannie that used to be a man, F her”. The other thing I do is I try to imagine the girls are naked, imagining any possible flaws and thinking how they are insecure. Those two things you’ll lose your fear of approach real quick, but I can’t emphasiz enough how well dance game works, you’ll seriously get the hottest of the hot girls that way and it’s also pretty easy to position your self for a three way with two or more hoties if you’re dancing with them all night first..

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      • There’s being introverted, and then there’s being afraid – and the worst of all, being an introvert who is afraid. It’s like Jon Favreau in Swingers. I would humbly suggest you use some introspection to decide what exactly it is that makes you afraid, so that you can face it and overcome it. If you learn game without conquering your internal fears, you’ll likely end up with weak frame who too easily slips into needy beta-ness. It’s good that this blog emphasizes “internal game” as a solid foundation.

        However, for non-voluble introverts, “two-year-old game” can be super useful: first in conquering the fear of looking like an idiot in public, whether your fear is of what other people will think of you for being an idiot, what the approachee thinks of you for looking like an idiot, or what other people think of you for approaching a woman (your friends, her friends, the world at large, random bystanders). Making a face, pantomiming something silly, faking a ridiculous action, whatever. If you can get eye contact, but you don’t want to walk over and say something, you need to get the attention (sustained eye contact) so that you can wave her over to start some kind of conversation to get more attraction and then at least get the number.

        If you want to play the same night lay or getting the kiss close, you then need to get comfortable with being dominant and touching the girl physically, but without being needy or aggressive. It takes practice. If you don’t care about playing this kind of game and are comfortable with stringing things out and having a more patient approach.

        The second kind of game that favors introverts (with good body language) is learning how to smile at a girl. Social norms dictate that when you make eye contact with a stranger, a quick polite smile is ok as long as you look away quickly. To smile “too” long and hold her eyes for “too” long is a very fun game to play (and helps you to build your feeling of nonchalant mastery), and can be followed by inane conversation (i.e. the weather, directions, clothes) where the real conversation is held underneath with the eye contact – the key to doing this properly is in the good body language and good speech patterns (slow, audible, varying volume, etc).

        If a female keeps your eye contact (or double/triple takes) it’s on, and you are free to approach to make conversation or ask a question.

        Learning to use the “false time constraint” (“I can only stay a second…my friends are waiting/getting a pizza/picking up my dog”) is also useful for these situations to add urgency.

        Though for me, the most important thing for an introvert to learn, is how to lose their fear of social judgements: to be able to act in an unexpected manner with confidence. The introvert doesn’t have to lose their introverted manner for every day, but just in that moment to be able to drop the mask of caring what people think. For this, practicing “kid” game is a practical method.

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      • The backup for introverts is getting extremely good at text game, especially text game sexual. This is to help you for after you’ve raked in some numbers, but while you are still uncomfortable getting stupid cocky and overtly sexual to her face while having just met. If you are going to try to bang some girl, you are going to have to make your intentions sexual at some point-either from the get-go, or later in text game. It’s definitely NOT good to wait until you meet again to try to make it sexual-because you haven’t set that frame yet.

        The second part of this is getting comfortable talking one-on-one with girls in a relaxed lounge setting (having your own logistics plan set up beforehand is key-that means having your own pad or hotel room or whatever set up for whatever plans you have, unless you really like winging it). When you got the number, you’ve got attraction and hopefully qualification of yourself as a cool and mysterious guy-or she probably wouldn’t meet you again. So you have to get good at establishing comfort while still keeping things sexual. This is all in the conversation but still more in the body language and especially body contact. You can talk about anything, but topics that are or can be construed to be sexual in nature make your job easier because it puts the focus there without any extra effort, if you aren’t talking sexual, then your eyes and body contact/posture should make your intentions clear.

        Another trick for introverts is peacocking with no apologies. Wear something that is like chick crack (but don’t be creepy! remember your body language!), that will draw them to you. Mystery is of course a master of this, but RSD Tyler’s shirt with 10 zippered pockets is another good example. Most people will come up and criticize you, so you can’t blow them out of the water (defensive mindset), but figure out ways to DHV in response (like – “I can see it in your eyes, you’re the jealous type” [smirk!]) convo from there, if she’s actually interested and not just coming in for a cheap shot. It’s like painting a target on yourself.

        Introvert recap: peacocking or two-year-old game or the wave/smile method to draw people to you. Script an opener and DHV story to spark the conversation, work to get the number (but don’t be in a rush!). Try to take it further if you want. From here, cocky-funny-sexual text game to get the next meeting for drinks-comfort game working into seduction game.

        Also, speaking personally, the older CH archives are better for game advice than the current few years. So it’s better to start from https://heartiste.wordpress.com/category/game/page/90/ or so, and work forward.

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  31. There was a time during the dark days of WW2 when Winston Churchill heard about a scheme to feed the British Army with soy protein instead of beef. He said, “There are very few things that could cause us to lose this war, but this is one of them”

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  32. http://www.vdare.com/articles/unelecting-a-people-amnesty-is-the-ultimate-form-of-voter-suppression

    “The GOP is thus unprepared for the powerful Narrative taking shape within the MSM: the midterm elections are illegitimate because they were dominated by white voters and because it’s too hard to vote.

    Of course, lost in all the talk about “voter suppression” and the need to represent non-citizens is the fact that allowing fraudulent votes and importing a new population effectively disenfranchises existing American citizens.

    To actively ignore not just the will of the voters and consciously seek to “swamp” them is indistinguishable from the tactics of a foreign regime waging a war of conquest.

    But then again–that’s the point. The Obama Regime and its MSM cheerleaders have already decided that its chief obstacle is the actually existing American people.

    Unfortunately, the only representation the American people currently have is in the compromised and weak Republican Congress. As even the Beltway Right is now admitting, impeachment is the only answer left if Obama goes through with his unilateral Amnesty.”

    Not quite.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/11/support_builds_in_gop_for_government_shutdown_over_obama_immigration_orders.html

    “Momentum is building in the House in the GOP caucus to attach a rider to the Continuing Resolution that would fund the government until the end of the fiscal year that would defund agencies charged with implementing President Obama’s coming executive orders on immigration.

    The divide appears to be between the realists and the ideologues. The realist position, as stated by Rep. Cole:

    ‘I don’t blame people for being mad and proposing ideas,’ Cole said. ‘I personally think it’s just a losing strategy. It didn’t work for ObamaCare. There’s no way it’s going to work here… My view is shutting down the government is never the appropriate remedy.'”

    Really? Because it seems to me that even liberal Oregon has had enough.

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/cynthia-kendoll-speech-on-no-on-88-protecting-oregon-drivers-licenses-now-online-and-by-the-way-it-won

    “‘Vote No Measure 88’ got more votes than anything else on the Oregon ballot. More votes than pot legalization. More than the incumbent governor, the incumbent senator or any of the six other ballot measures. The widely popular, landslide vote on Measure 88 prohibits illegal immigrants from getting drivers licenses.

    In 2012, 970,488 Oregonians voted for Obama In 2014, an off-year, almost as many (941,042) voted against drivers licenses for illegal aliens.”

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  33. This made news in Hong Kong. It’s what I’m talking about when I posted earlier and previously on gaming Chinese women. My game has to be adapted to calibrate for dudes like this who pedestalize women….even ones who look like this.

    There was also a follow up. After they went to court, this angry man instead of laying down the law with his princess lashed out at a photographer covering this pathetic loser’s case.

    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1384618/youtube-slap-attack-boyfriend-escapes-charges-over-alleged-assault

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    • Is this a typical “submissive” Asian woman venerated on this and other boards?
      And these are Asian men, new rulers of the World who are going to take power from decadent West?
      It is painful to watch this transition from zero to nothing

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      • To be fair, this is one guy and one girl out of a BILLION. As others have pointed out, China has a surplus of men, some 50 million more men than women; naturally you’ll have some laggards like this. Pointing them out as evidence that China isn’t really going to take over is a very difficult claim to make. Even 50 million examples of this behavior might not override the 500 million other Chinese guys. Every society has its winners and losers, and out of a billion people we can surely find plenty of examples of China’s losers. It doesn’t mean that the entire society is like that.

        You’re right on the falsity of the ‘submissive woman’ claim; it’s mostly a fantasy based on a variety of incorrect assumptions and biases. Asian women who *live in the western world* are more ‘submissive’ than western women, sure. White men who lived in the Orient in the past were generally pretty well-off, powerful, important guys, and could get women to submit to them and worship them. Not exactly a fair sample size of Asian women.

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    • Cold day in hell before I put up with a minute of that shit

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      • @Trav me too…But since these girls are so used to being supplicated like this…you have to be strong enough to walk away.

        They will go to absurd lengths to rally sympathy.

        You can read my text exchange above with the hot 23 year old. After that exchange I went radio silent. She posted in Chinese along with Adele’s “Someone like you” longing for her ex bf—whom I met once a year ago and who was an uber beta—and essentially dismissing me with “I hope I meet someone nice again…” She wasn’t saying that when I was demolishing her pussy 3 times a night. Myeh…typical of all women yes, but so easy to feel sorry when they act that way balling their eyes out accusing you of the worst crimes against humanity….

        ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR….they act like the bitch in that video and publicly slap and humiliate their boyfriends only to get back with them for more..

        Game is universal. These girls may not like that I stood up to them…but they do come back and do respect me for it.

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  34. How do you know when you are a fag? You notice any of the 3 brothers rather than the girl.

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    • That video is a form of structured torture. The focus constantly switches from the pretty girl’s face, with features delicate and fine, to a variety of mixed-race Orcs. The second you relax into enjoying her beauty – Bam! You’re forced to view an Orc instead.

      Dirty pool, man. Dirty pool.

      I suppose it works as a sort of time-lapse on the consequences of racial mixing: the beautiful girl, followed by what the anti-whites want to turn us into.

      Let us do better than that. Separation is the only solution.

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      • on November 19, 2014 at 12:07 pm Hillel the Elder

        As I said trainspotter, it’s not an either-or situation. You have created a false dichotomy in your mind.

        I am neither anti-white nor pro-white, whether you think everyone must be one or the other. “You’re either with us or against us”.

        What a bunch of lowbrow drivel.

        Calling another human being and “orc”, however, is a pretty damned good illustration of the human capacity for ignorance and self loathing.

        You’re a highly pitiable specimen, I’m really very sorry for your condition.

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    • on November 16, 2014 at 4:17 am Mean Mr. Mustard

      How do you know when you are a fag?

      You watch and enjoy any kind of K-pop videos.

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    • What if you notice the guitar?

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    • on November 16, 2014 at 8:00 am The Spirit Within

      The girl is a 7 at best.

      Trainspotter: you’re mental. You cherrypick maybe three seconds of the video as a way to spew your hate. Take it elsewhere.

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      • Boy, your SJW act wears thin at the chateau… take it over to HuffPo where you’ll be lionized.

        You fairy.

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      • You’re such a bitch.

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      • on November 16, 2014 at 2:03 pm Hammer of Love

        The Yid within is back, quoting passages of wisdom from the Talmud.

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      • The Sperg Within: “The girl is a 7 at best.”

        I’d say a 7 “at least,” but let us not quibble over trifling matters. Compared to the mixed-race cretins that you wish us to become, she’s quite attractive.

        The Sperg Within: “Trainspotter: you’re mental. You cherrypick maybe three seconds of the video as a way to spew your hate.”

        Meh, it’s a nice study in contrasts, but I’ll leave it to the non-sperg viewer to decide. And it’s not hate, just observation. Speaking of hate, you should take a look in the mirror. It’s all there, hateful ugliness and all.

        The Sperg Within: “Take it elsewhere.”

        Yeah, sparky, I’ll be sure to do that.

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      • Hammer of Love: “The Yid within is back, quoting passages of wisdom from the Talmud.”

        Yeah, last I saw of him he was telling such outlandish whoppers that the commenters just laughed him off. He claims he’s not YKW, but…let’s just say the shoe fits. And if he’s not, then it’s Spergsvile all the way.

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      • on November 16, 2014 at 9:29 pm The Spirit Within

        Here’s a Sparknotes summary of all your responses:

        hatehatehatehatehatehatehatehatenonsensehatehatehatehate

        God save you from yourselves.

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      • Sperg Within, no one hates like an anti-white. We aren’t the ones promoting and/or covering for genocide. Your kind are.

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      • Yid Within seems to think that Cathedral shaming is valid coin of the realm, here at the chateau.

        I ask you, ladies and gentlemen of the jury… could the alleged victim BE any more insipid?

        Beyond The Valley Of (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on November 17, 2014 at 7:16 am The Spirit Within

        Transpotter, if you had a better perspective on life, you would understand what I’m saying here.

        Be pro-individual. It’s the best way to live. Try to understand everybody, and leave your agenda behind. For example, I read this site because 1) the ego psych is dead on, and 2) I’m trying to understand the hateful minds, such as your own, that post here. But I suspect that it will be a long time before you can work your pitiful little stunted spirit up to such a task. A couple more lifetimes, maybe.

        Greg Eliot already knows that his soul is lost, and that’s why he covers it with constant snark (“another jest alas falls flat”, lol). The worst part: His hypocrisy. How many times has he dismissed somebody here (me, Tillicum, etc) for the same? Splinter in mine, plank in thine. I know he’ll catch that reference.

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      • The Sperg Within: “Transpotter, if you had a better perspective on life, you would understand what I’m saying here.”

        No worries, dude, I understand exactly what you are saying. It is the natural instinct of your kind to attempt to shut down and suppress opposition. This is why you try to cover for the anti-white policies that are literally a form of genocide. It’s why your fellow anti-white Nicole, on another thread, is trying to cover for blacks committing vastly disproportionate amounts of murder. It’s why your fellow anti-whites covered up the mass rape of white girls by Asians in Rotherham…

        It’s just what your kind does. You people are truly warped.

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      • — “Be pro-individual. It’s the best way to live.”

        How much will you sell your mother for?

        — “For example, I read this site because…”

        Ever wonder why you’re tolerated on an anti-prog site, while rightie commentets are insta-banned at lib blogs? The answer: we are aligned with truth, you are aligned with power. This plays out along the anti-fragile / fragile principle. We are the former, which is a term for systems that get stronger under duress; like human muscles getting stronger from exercise loads. You are the latter, like glass.

        Your ideology cannot withstand dissent, which is why your kind suppresses it at every level it can. But we grow stronger from the inoculating effects of anti-white commenters.

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      • Nothing upsets the namby-pamby SJW’s than someone whose better at bandying barbs than they.

        Listen to yourself, shill… telling other folks about their “lost soul”, as if you have a say in it…

        … quick to point out “hate” when YT’s making a point, but…

        … silent as a stone when the anti-whites start in with their hateful nonsense, which is what causes the return volley from those of us you cry your alligator tears over as “haters”.

        Splinters and planks, indeed… wake up you yourself, hypocrite!

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      • on November 17, 2014 at 4:01 pm The Spirit Within

        Greg, you have absolutely no idea what I say to non-whites when they begin hating on us whites. BUT … here’s a clue: It’s pretty much the same thing I say to you. Am I crystal f–king clear?

        On both sides of the fence, race war comments are pointless and lead to nothing but anguish for pretty much everybody.

        Trainspotter, meanwhile, makes so many false assumptions that I’m not even going to address him anymore. He really could use a class in logical reasoning, a subject that I actually have more than a passing familiarity with.

        However, I think I can boil down his worldview thusly: “If you’re not for whtes, you’re against whites.”. That’s a false dichotomy — he can Google that term — and it’s easily refutable.

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      • on November 17, 2014 at 4:15 pm Committee of 300

        “2) I’m trying to understand the hateful minds, such as your own, that post here.”

        Lol now that is funny.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder

        It’s very very easy to recognize minds that see one problem and one solution. “It’s the ______ and can be fixed with _________”.

        Poor inbred folks of the south. Everything is black and white. “it’s the Jews”. “It’s the non whites”. “Its feminism”.

        Minds like this have no concept of microcosm and macrocosm. Things must fit neatly into a box because different shades of gray are far too complex to work at comprehending.

        Everything that you hate you are. Sorry.

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      • Sperg Within: “Trainspotter, meanwhile, makes so many false assumptions that I’m not even going to address him anymore. He really could use a class in logical reasoning, a subject that I actually have more than a passing familiarity with.”

        LOL! What logic? Your “logic” consists of incredibly lame scolding of others. Hater! Hater! Really impressive, dude. If you needed a logic course in order to generate such drivel, more’s the pity.

        You’re a cross between a mediocre schoolmarm and a dingbat freshman girl at a third tier toilet – combining the worst aspects of both. The closest you ever got to interesting was when you were telling tales so obviously ridiculous that the commentariat laughed you off of the stage. Verdict: you’re a clown.

        Sperg Within: “However, I think I can boil down his worldview thusly: “If you’re not for whtes, you’re against whites.”

        Sigh. This is just dumb, by which I mean par for your course. If you want to be neutral, then be neutral. Stay out of it, nobody is stopping you. But your kind is not neutral, you are anti-white.

        So you do what anti-whites do, which is try to shut down the opposition. Whether it is trying to shout down a pro-white commenter, or cover up disproportionate black murder, or cover up the mass rape of white girls in Rotherham. Your kind is always there to shout Hater! at those who dissent from the ruling orthodoxy. That’s not being neutral, it’s being anti-white.

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      • Committee of 300: “Everything that you hate you are. Sorry.”

        Nonsense. By that logic, everyone that hates murderers and rapists…are themselves murderers and rapists. That’s moronic drivel. *sorry*

        This line of yours was particularly cute: “Poor inbred folks of the south.”

        Classic anti-white mentality: condemn *racism* while simultaneously insulting whites, and being completely oblivious to the inherent contradiction involved. The anti-white mentality truly warps minds, or maybe it just attracts minds that were already warped. Take it back to the Committee of 300 Nitwits, dude.

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 8:59 am Committee of 300

        @trainspotter

        Not anti-white, it’s actually anti-uneducated-redneck.

        And of course you have no way to understand what I mean when I say “everything you hate you are”.

        Go noodle a catfish or something.

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      • Greg, you have absolutely no idea what I say to non-whites when they begin hating on us whites. BUT … here’s a clue: It’s pretty much the same thing I say to you. Am I crystal f–king clear?

        Oh, I have plenty of idea of what you say to the Afrocentrists, muh-dikkers, and Sunstein shillers, based upon your replies here at the chateau, Schlomo…

        You say nada… zilch… bupkis…

        But when it comes to YT paying back those snarkers in better coin than they give, you just about jump out of your socks to whine “Hater!”

        You’re crystal fucking clear, kid… couldn’t be more transparent.

        And as far as this latest schmuck Committee of 300 goes, since Trainspotter’s already handled my light work and ripped him a new one, I’ll let the two of you run off and sample your vapors, so as to screw up the courage for another good ol’ fashioned chateau ass-whuppin’.

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 10:53 am Committee of 300

        So much projection, you all hate yourselves. Oh wait, “my life is awful because “X” made it so.”

        Shift all blame for your shit life on someone/something outside of yourself.

        Sunstein, lol. This is called projection. There is no such thing as “the Jews” or “non-whites” there are only “individuals”.

        You collectivists are laughable.

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      • lol in this mini-thread, the Jew Within has been verbally destroyed by dudes who get it. spot on. nothing to add. PA’s comment is particularly unassailable. jew within, why do I need to create an account to comment on ykwnn.com and every other libtard site, and many libtard things like BS youtube vids don’t allow any comments at all.

        modern liberalism/leftism is literally the enemy of TRUTH.
        LITERALLY, BRO.

        leftism is the enemy of TRUTH and fears TRUTH. it’s simply a fact. regarding every issue, the left’s position is to try to deny easily observable biological reality, and the left’s only solution is POWER (controlling all media and the government) and censorship. literally.

        The people in this country who advocate truth and reality are literally silenced. we are forced to comment anonymously if we expect to have a job with which to feed our families, if we are lucky enough to even have a family.

        in short, jew within, FUCK YOU.

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      • — “there are only “individuals”

        How much money would you whore out your mother for?

        — “You collectivists are laughable.”

        OK, it’s just a randroid.

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      • Yup… that’s right… there are only “individuals”…

        … who just “happen” to band together.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force

        Clown, if you’re going to shill, come up with something better than that tired old :”pay no attention to the man behind the curtain” hauteur.

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 11:18 am The Spirit Within

        “Oh, I have plenty of idea of what you say to the Afrocentrists, muh-dikkers, and Sunstein shillers, based upon your replies here at the chateau, Schlomo… You say nada… zilch… bupkis…”

        Tell me how you know that.

        You don’t. As I said earlier, race war comments are pointless, on all two hundred and six sides of the fence. And I tell people the same.

        As usual, you’re talking out of your ass, Greg Eliot, inferring thousands of data points from a single one. Save that vicious broken-soul, butt-hurt ire for someone who deserves it.

        Personally, as a tall, white NON-JEWISH man of Eastern Europe descent, I’ve experienced a helluva a lot of advantages, some explicit, some implicit. I’m glad to be one, and I always am aware of that luck. That never stopped me from working very hard to improve myself, though.

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 11:25 am Committee of 300

        Wish I were a shill, lol. I have a TON of Jewish friends, and a deep respect for many a Jewish philosopher.

        As with any demograph, there are good and bad, just as there is in every individual.

        What did your Zombie God say, something about you are all born sinners and must mend your ways else suffer eternal damnation?

        So I suppose you don’t have any tyrant within you, no hidden latent evil that could bubble up and act out.

        Right.

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      • Tell me how you know that.

        Maybe the other guys are right and you ARE a sperg rather than a straight shill… I already answered that question in the very post you cited.

        (((shakin’ it here)))

        Save that vicious broken-soul, butt-hurt ire for someone who deserves it.

        Ahem… haven’t YOU been the first one to voice said butt-hurt ire for the rest of us “haters”? Looks that way to me, just based upon the amount of OTHER posters who have remarked in re your bitchitude.

        (((still shakin’ it here)))

        Personally, as a tall, white NON-JEWISH man of Eastern Europe descent, I’ve experienced a helluva a lot of advantages, some explicit, some implicit. I’m glad to be one, and I always am aware of that luck.

        An alleged gentile who takes such pains to subtly acknowledge “white privilege”?

        Boy, you deserve the ass-whuppin’s you get here at the chateau… and I’m a bit concerned that you seem to be enjoyin’ ’em.

        That never stopped me from working very hard to improve myself, though.

        And on that side note, what makes you think ANY of us so-called “haters” haven’t worked hard and led some pretty good lives… and always encourage our kinsmen to go and do likewise?

        What makes you think otherwise?

        I can’t believe any young white man of your alleged talents and genetics is THAT far gone down the road of Cathedral groupthink.

        Hence, the smackdowns you get when you open your mealy mouth to the men around here.

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 12:00 pm Committee of 300

        I wonder if any of you nit-wits can understand the implication of this.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

        Frederick Douglas could intellectually mop the floor with all of your asses, metaphorically speaking.

        “Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.” Frederick Douglass

        Splinter and plank indeed.

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      • The irony deficiency is strong in this Co300 one…

        Anyone else care to hit this softball out of the park?

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      • What did your Zombie God say,

        Ah, the plot thins…

        Either a sock puppy of the usual voodoo blasphemers or they’re calling in the auxiliary troops.

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      • What did your Zombie God say,

        Geez, Louise… these shillers can’t HELP but out themselves right from the get-go anymore.

        End times prophecy tally continues to go up.

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 12:36 pm Committee of 300

        It’s super fun to challenge the Delphi method used in this melting pot of hatred!

        “It’s the Jews and the niggers rah rah rah”

        Mindless masses.

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 12:37 pm Committee of 300

        Oh give me a break, Yahweh, Allah and your silly myth are all the same dude.

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      • Avaunt, impious fool!

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 12:42 pm Committee of 300

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      • Committee of 300 Nitwits: “Not anti-white, it’s actually anti-uneducated-redneck”

        The irony here is rich, given that you possess the writing style of a fifth grader.

        Committee of 300 Nitwits: “And of course you have no way to understand what I mean when I say “everything you hate you are”

        LOL! Um, dude, you’re right about that much, at least. I don’t know what bizarre and incoherent beliefs infest your fevered brain, nor do I care. I only know what you actually wrote in the post above, and what it means in a language called English. It was laughably, provably untrue. You’re just another anti-white shill, and dumb as a rock to boot.

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 12:49 pm Committee of 300

        Let me get this straight,

        All white people live in the south, have sex with their cousins, and hate Jews and blacks.

        Got it.

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 12:52 pm Committee of 300

        If by anti white you mean anti skin head neo Nazi, I plead guilty.

        And I am a fifth grader, duh.

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      • The Sperg Within: “I’ve experienced a helluva a lot of advantages, some explicit, some implicit.”

        Your “privilege” isn’t at issue in this exchange. Nobody cares about your personal life, or the tall tales you were telling a while back. It’s funny and pathetic how you try to make this about Sperg The Special Snowflake. But the reality is, you’re not special. Functionally, you’re just a garden variety anti-white.

        The issue at hand is a politically correct orthodoxy that tries to shut down dissenters. It’s about the survival of a people that is intentionally being reduced to minority status, and then blended out altogether. And you clearly, demonstrably shill for that politically correct orthodoxy. Whether you are a Jew, a hasbara troll, or an actual sperg, doesn’t really matter. What your kind actually does, on the other hand, is observable and obvious.

        Whether it is jumping in to try to shame pro-white dissenters online, or trying to cover up massively disproportionate black murder, or covering up the mass rape of white girls by Asians in Rotherham, it’s just what your kind does: attempt to suppress dissenters. You’re there to scream “Hater!”

        You’re no special snowflake, Sperg, you’re just a malevolent little anti-white.

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      • “As I said earlier, race war comments are pointless”

        So why are you involved with every race thread on this blog?

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      • on November 18, 2014 at 1:20 pm Committee of 300

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      • Committee of 300 Nitwits: “All white people live in the south, have sex with their cousins, and hate Jews and blacks. Got it.”

        Nor do all blacks or Jews live in Western countries. Figure it out, oh butcher of logic. (fat chance – you’d have a better shot at solving Rubik’s Cube)

        Committee of Nitwits: “If by anti white you mean anti skin head neo Nazi, I plead guilty. And I am a fifth grader, duh.”

        Color me surprised. The funny thing is, though your writing style is godawful, the gist of your *message* is the same laughably mediocre tripe as spewed by The Sperg. You’re an obvious moron, but what does that say about him? The Sperg and The Nitwit, anti-white peas in a pod.

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      • PA: “Your ideology cannot withstand dissent, which is why your kind suppresses it at every level it can. But we grow stronger from the inoculating effects of anti-white commenters.”

        PA, your entire comment (Nov 17, 11:00 A.M.) is spot on. Very true, and very well put.

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      • on November 19, 2014 at 8:01 am Committee of 300

        See the funny thing is, trainspotter, that whatever the offense, your defense towards it is always the same. Anti-white, sperg, shill for the Jews. Nothing is as simple as your mind wants it to be. I have no affiliation with anyone else on this site. Fact is, I’m nothing close to your boxed up closed minded ideas.

        If I tell you that you are a moronic bigoted southern grown imbecile, you call me anti-white. Do you see the non sequitur here? Probably not.

        And then you go on to try to undermine my intelligence, something of which I make no claim of greatness nor take any pride in. It offends me not in the least for you to make your ad hominem attacks towards me, I’m neither a white supremacist not do I have unsubstantiated white pride.

        I feel sorry for you, your hatred is the cause of your misery.

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      • Committee of 300 Nitwits: “See the funny thing is, trainspotter, that whatever the offense, your defense towards it is always the same. Anti-white, sperg, shill for the Jews.”

        I don’t know or care who/what you are, but I do stay on message. I consistently point out the reality of the situation: anti-whites always attempt to hush up dissenters. Whether it is screaming “hater” at a pro-white internet commenter, covering up massively disproportionate black on white murder, or covering up the mass rape of whites girls by Asians in Rotherham. It’s a clear and observable pattern. But you’re out of luck: we’re not going to be quiet. Any attack by an anti-white is just another opportunity to get the message out.

        Committee of 300 Nitwits: “I have no affiliation with anyone else on this site.”

        Nobody cares about you personally. I’m guessing that you are a non-white, given the general tone of insipid stupidity in your posts. But that doesn’t matter, and I stick to what is observable. Functionally, you are an anti-white, as your posts support the anti-white position. You do this very poorly, but still.

        Committee of 300 Nitwits: “If I tell you that you are a moronic bigoted southern grown imbecile, you call me anti-white. Do you see the non sequitur here? Probably not.”

        LOL! That’s because there is no non sequitur. You are anti-white, not to mention dumber than the “moronic bigoted” southerners that you insult.

        300 Nitwits: “I feel sorry for you, your hatred is the cause of your misery.”

        Opposing white genocide is not hate, but supporting it is. Ergo, look in the mirror, clown.

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      • on November 19, 2014 at 12:09 pm Committee of 300

        As I said trainspotter, it’s not an either-or situation. You have created a false dichotomy in your mind.

        I am neither anti-white nor pro-white, whether you think everyone must be one or the other. “You’re either with us or against us”.

        What a bunch of lowbrow drivel.

        Calling another human being and “orc”, however, is a pretty damned good illustration of the human capacity for ignorance and self loathing.

        You’re a highly pitiable specimen, I’m really very sorry for your condition.

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      • Committee of Nitwits: “I am neither anti-white nor pro-white, whether you think everyone must be one or the other. “You’re either with us or against us”.

        Untrue, as there are many possible options. One is to remain neutral. You chose not to do that. Instead, you made anti-white posts. Are you congenitally unable to take responsibility for your own choices?

        Committee of Nitwits: “Calling another human being and “orc”, however, is a pretty damned good illustration of the human capacity for ignorance and self loathing.”

        But making hateful insults to whites, as you have done, is o.k.? Your kind exhibit this bizarre and shameless hypocrisy, where you feel perfectly free to insult others, but take deep umbrage when you get a dose of your own medicine. The worst offenders on this point are usually black, and I suspect the chances are very high that you are one. But that’s neither here nor there, as the observable point, based on your posts alone, is that you are an anti-white moron. And I’ll throw in orc for good measure. If the shoe fits…

        But from my point of view, I don’t care about the insults one way or the other. I’m not the type that can dish it out, but can’t take it. I’ll continue to oppose white genocide, either way.

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      • You’re a highly pitiable specimen, I’m really very sorry for your condition

        Disingenuous shithouse psychology closes out of town, toots.

        You wanna continue to hang at the chateau, you’re gonna hafta Mencken up a bit… we demand a cleverer class of shillery ’round these parts.

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      • 300, you stupid fuck, the Douglas quote applies to whites in the western civilized world right now. I realize you are too stupid to understand this and I am wasting my time typing this.

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      • on November 19, 2014 at 1:22 pm Committee of 300

        I challenge you trainspotter to illustrate one single instance of me making a hateful remark toward anybody at all.

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      • on November 19, 2014 at 1:23 pm Committee of 300

        Apparently I don’t have to do shit Greg, cause I still have your attention.

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      • on November 19, 2014 at 1:31 pm Committee of 300

        “But making hateful insults to whites, as you have done”

        You’re gasping for air little boy, your logic has failed you.

        Point out where I insulted whites, or anyone else, short of inbred southern red neck neo nazi skin heads. A group which all the world agrees could vanish from the face of the planet with nary a tear shed by any of the remaining population.

        You see, your beliefs actually make you what you claim of other. Subhuman.
        .

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      • Greg Eliot: “…you’re gonna hafta Mencken up a bit… we demand a cleverer class of shillery ’round these parts.”

        Ha! Expecting that of the Nitwit is akin to trying to teach a pig to sing. It just frustrates you, and annoys the pig.

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      • Nitwit: “I challenge you trainspotter to illustrate one single instance of me making a hateful remark toward anybody at all.”

        Well, let’s see, there’s this for starters: “Poor inbred folks of the south.” That’s a well worn and utterly false slur that is often used by anti-whites against white southerners (but not blacks), and really politically incorrect whites in general. If you are literally too stupid to understand that this is a slur, then that’s your problem. I know you’re dumb, but it would surprise me if you were that dumb. In any event, the sentient reader is not fooled.

        Nitwit: “Point out where I insulted whites, or anyone else, short of inbred southern red neck neo nazi skin heads.”

        LOL! The hits just keep coming. I’m not a nazi, I’m not a skinhead, and I’m not a redneck – nor have I ever been any of these things (though I would choose them in a heartbeat over you). Yet you feel perfectly free to hurl these “slurs” at me and others who dissent from the ruling orthodoxy, and then cry like a little girl when you get a dose of your own medicine. Both laughable and pathetic. The difference between my insults of you as opposed to yours of me, is that mine are accurate. You really are an anti-white moron.

        Nitwit: “A group which all the world agrees could vanish from the face of the planet with nary a tear shed by any of the remaining population.”

        Yes, people that disagree with the Nitwit should disappear from the face of the earth. The Nitwit is so nice. I’m shocked, shocked that he would attack those who dissent against white genocide. And I’m not being cute when I say this: Nitwit, you really are full of hate.

        Nitwit: “You see, your beliefs actually make you what you claim of other. Subhuman.”

        Subhuman? LOL! Coming from an Orc, that really hurts.

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      • 300, you stupid fuck, the Douglas quote applies to whites in the western civilized world right now. I realize you are too stupid to understand this and I am wasting my time typing this.

        FINALLY somebody hits the damn softball!

        Took you guys long enough… I was getting a bit tired of pointing out the obvious to the oblivious.

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      • Apparently I don’t have to do shit Greg, cause I still have your attention.

        Heh, heh… now we KNOW he/she’s a negro… this lame sore of neener-neener is a calling card of their ilk… as evinced in the past by our house boy and his mammy.

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      • A group which all the world agrees

        Note the womanish appeal to the herd. Insanity by consensus.

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      • I challenge you trainspotter to illustrate one single instance of me making a hateful remark toward anybody at all.

        And then…

        You’re gasping for air little boy, your logic has failed you.

        Point out where I insulted whites, or anyone else, short of inbred southern red neck neo nazi skin heads.

        Self-unaware… check.

        Attempt at emasculating shaming language… check.

        Irony deficient… check.

        Invokes usual suspect bogeymen… check.

        Definitely a negress… of the dimmest Cathedral sort.

        Now that it’s been established, further discussion unwarranted. :duckface:

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  35. If she does take him back (which she won’t), she’ll never get on her knees for him again.

    On another note, I have been despairing over the state of manhood in the modern world, and its seeming inability to stand up to feminism. Yet today, I was given some small glimmer of hope.

    A ‘feminist’ I work with brought out her ridiculous, childish assertions about privilege, and the two cooks with us both shut her down, along with me and…a female manager! I think the red pill is being inadvertently dumped into our water supply by the zany feminists and their grasping, greedy nature

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  36. my comment did not appear after posting it, what a shame

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  37. well its 106 males for every 100 females in china almist as bad as india but a major gendar imbalance nonetheless.
    plus you must add the factor that asian girls can get plenty of foreign suitors esp white guys while asian men are kinda left in the cold.
    even the numbers say they will have a scarce mindset.
    unless theyget thai or pinoy or viet womrb

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    • 95-98% of Chinese women have zero interest in white men. Being a white man in China is like being a black man in America…most women aren’t interested, but the ones that are, really are.

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      • Dunno ’bout China, but Chinese-American girls come in 2 basic flavahs:
        The ultra-traditional, who toe the party line laid down by their parents and 10,000 years of tradition to the hilt and who would never even dream of fucking and/or marrying anything other than a Chinese man (with as much moolah as possible) and the mega-hip wanna-be ghetto party chicks who will spread for just about any Black ghetto gangsta – with as much bling & cash as possible, duh…..
        White guy/Chinese girl combos are much rarer than one might think (CA and HI may be exceptions), and usually consist of either 2 nerds or a middle-aged losah pud, complete with gut hanging over belt, covered by Hawaiian shirt and his past-her-prime Asian escort.

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      • yyou know think youre quite right. women espically conserative ines stick to their own group its nature. when they do wanna mix out thet tend to be the older party wgirls with some milage and cant cook.
        think the real top pussy is always fuckin a local rich guy right al legal age and locked down.
        if china is as bad as you say think how bad korea or argentina is worse the pussy desert one lol(india n middle east).

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  38. Check out RED ICE RDIO

    RealTalk and an attractive spokeswoman.

    H/T: a very interesting blogger HipsterRacist at wordpress.

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  39. on November 16, 2014 at 4:15 am Mean Mr. Mustard

    For some reason there are quite a few single Chinese women that have made their way to Australia via our current (rampant) immigration.
    Age wise they tend to be 35+ which in China is considered old and barren.
    As Wolfie65 said earlier on, they have cash registers instead of souls, minds and hearts. No thanks.

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    • Why do you hate Tony Abbott? What I have read about him, he’s been pretty red pill.

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      • on November 16, 2014 at 3:30 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

        Do some more reading.

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      • on November 16, 2014 at 4:09 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

        He could be considered Red Pill as far as women/family goes but as a leader of a country he is a fucking retard. Visionless, clueless, myopic, a liar and beholden to the interests of his coprorate lobbyists and masters.

        In fact, Australian politics and leadership on all sides has become a sick joke played on a public that should know better than to vote for these scum.

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      • There’s not a lot available on Oz in the US or even the British press. I like him quashing the carbon tax. Politics in the US isn’t much different from Oz apparently. Thanks.

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      • From what I understand, Abbott certainly presents as a red pill conservative type guy, but then again, if you want to co-opt a movement and undermine it, that’s the best thing to do – get a guy who looks like a duck, talk likes a duck, but in fact is actually not a duck.

        I’m not deeply familiar with Australian politics, but I’ve been around long enough to know that when some guy shows up who is a nice pre-packaged savior type, that he’s probably owned and operated by someone else to take advantage of the current political winds without actually being real enough to do the actual dirty work. He probably talks good talk on the issues that are important to the average Australian, but is actually beholden to, as others have said, corporate lobbyists and masters (take that to mean what you will).

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    • Rampant immigration but at least Abbott’s government stopped the fuck-you boats. Me, I’m a Labor man, 1901 version.

      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy

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  40. Been learning about Korean women lately. Way different game here than in the States although many principles hold.

    They love to shit test and what comes out of their mouths is preciously crazy. Just call them on it and explain reality and they gaze up into your eyes. Being 30 years older and white seems to be an advantage, not a deficit, once they hit 30. That’s the age when they think they are out of the marriage market.

    Logistics become complicated when they live at home too. I’ve never run into that! Mama is always watching, hoping against hope, that lovely 30-something daughter brings home husband. Like “I have to bring home the ticket stub to prove that I went to the concert with you.” On the other hand, “I’ll come to your hotel room at 9 am but have to leave by 5 so Mama will have company.”

    The Korean guys seem so woozie but the women claim they are mean and cruel. Yet talk about spanking them and they light up.

    Lot more to learn but what a pussy paradise Asia is proving.

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  41. He could have more constructively spent that same time doing the simple pickup 30-day online bootcamp

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  42. I recall when a woman broke off a relationship with me, which was, admittedly a tumultuous relationship for a long time. I wasn’t happy about it, and after a month or so, started dating/banging a woman. Well, the ex got wind of it and freaked out, I hadn’t been in any contact with her for 3 months at that point. What made her particularly mad was the new woman was 17 years younger than her. But I guess broads are harder to come by in China.

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  43. Seriously,, why do you white men waste any time thinking about or going after asian girls? wtf man.
    its simple mis ce g en a tion. Say good bye to your DNA. Its DNA suicide.

    Would you seriously do something as horrible to your own own offspring as to make them half asi an??
    God forbid, do you want ANOTHER little Elliott Rodgers mini man running loose in the world?
    Find a white woman, if you want a less feminist infected country go to POLAND.
    Beautiful feminine women there, (just make sure she has no ykw blood & you’re good)!

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    • on November 16, 2014 at 1:52 pm Hammer of Love

      Come on man leave my country’s women alone. You American dudes need to grow a pair, and put some discipline back into your own sisterhood. No need for Eastern Europe to be filled with Western betas running around looking for a wife. It doesn’t solve the core problems.

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      • The core is rotten, son. I’ll travel the world to meet as many women as possible, and pick whichever I so choose. The world is my oyster.

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      • “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
        “To talk of many things:
        Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
        Of cabbages—and kings—
        And why the sea is boiling hot—
        And whether pigs have wings.”

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      • on November 16, 2014 at 3:53 pm Hammer of Love

        ” The core is rotten, son. I’ll travel the world to meet as many women as possible, and pick whichever I so choose. The world is my oyster. ”

        So what your saying is that you’re a beta, who doesn’t have the PUA skills to succeed in the USA ?? Why else would you look for a woman half way around the world ?

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      • The numbers of men who actually go and marry an Eastern European woman are rather small- a few thousand at best. Our women are Ladas and Muscvitches. There just isn’t much to work with. Most of the men I see in Ukraine seem more interested in MMO than girls anyway. The guys who go overseas are generally individualists and more adventurous than average.

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      • plus if anythin it worsens the problem by spreadin it around like ebola.whether u realize it or not ur feminst programmin will seep out now n then an will make big impacts on them
        ya its temporary band aid on the problem and sure enough theyll ruin the local women too and suddenly blame western influence in media and not themselves. seriously learn from tsarniov on how to control american women. if she was with american beta shed eat him alive.

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      • “So what your saying is that you’re a beta, who doesn’t have the PUA skills to succeed in the USA ?? Why else would you look for a woman half way around the world ?”

        Oh yeah, so unsuccessful. You nailed it.

        Look friend, if you are so successful yourself you wouldn’t worry about an American tourist stopping by your country to enjoy its scenery and women.

        I might as well toot my own horn. I’m a combat veteran that not only risked his life for, but got his hands dirty for an ungrateful government and even more ungrateful civilian populace of spoiled brats. If either of us has room to criticize America, it’s me not you.

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      • on November 17, 2014 at 9:39 am Hammer of Love

        ” Look friend, if you are so successful yourself you wouldn’t worry about an American tourist stopping by your country to enjoy its scenery and women. ”

        No one is worried about anything friend. However, my people haven’t been totally corrupted yet, and we still feel a national / genetic loyalty to each other. It should be understandable then , that we wouldn’t want every foreigner on the planet waltzing in for a chance at our relatively uncorrupted women.

        I’m not going to disparage a combat proven solider, but I get the sense that you have a lot bitter feelings towards your government and your people, as you probably should. However, a true Alpha wouldn’t give up and run away, and instead would try to fix his own nation and women, not try to find greener pastures somewhere else.

        You also seem to have the typical American attitude, that you can go anywhere and have access to anything, just because you’re an “merikan “. Those days are nearing a quick end.

        You can always earn a right to one of our women, by using your combat experience, to help my Slavic brethren fighting in East Ukraine. I’m sure they would be happy to share with you at point. You might even become an honorary Slav.

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      • “However, a true Alpha wouldn’t give up and run away, and instead would try to fix his own nation and women”

        Bitter, sure not going to deny it…. but if you have any brain in that skull you know as well as I do that America is last the tipping point. It’s done. Over. The more I try to fix it, the more I’m ostracized for being an what this country has come to hate – a masculine, working class, white male with convictions.

        When I start my travels around the world, I may not come back to America. I don’t need to identify with any nation.

        You assume I’d bring corruption, yet you’d probably ask me to stay over you got to know me. I don’t even own a television… a far contrast from your stereotypical American. Which is probably why I want to leave.

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  44. on November 16, 2014 at 1:49 pm Hammer of Love

    Oh boy, the shaming never stops. Nasa Scientist is forced to apologize for his ” sexist ” shirt. Although, I think he’s a pussy for actually complying.

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-comet-dr-matt-taylor-apology-sexist-shirt

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    • Dear God… With this article I realised how pathetic Western civilization has become. The guy land a probe on a fucking comet and is being forced to make an apology for his choice of wardrobe… At the same time a vulgar, non-intellectual photo of Kardashian’s ass makes rounds around the planet… What have we become in the last 20 years

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  45. Its no coincidence that this Gruber asshole is a YKW

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  46. That is SO HOT!
    I want to jump through the computer screen and ravish that sheepish, and supplicating Chinaman.

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  47. So… the theme of this FR is self sabotage.

    I’m becoming someone completely different and it’s a bit jarring… girls can’t ignore me anymore (for the most part, I have a couple weak interactions with 9s coming up in a bit) and it’s like I’m messing up ON PURPOSE.

    Weekend FR-

    I opened a lot of girls and had a lot of good interactions (laser eye contact, relaxed, sexually charged) but the main one I remember is one with a blonde and 5 orbiters.

    It was later on in the night. Black guy is talking to 7.5 blonde (she’s taller than me). I cut in and talk about how cold my hands are and I need warm soul to warm them up. We banter for a bit about how cold she actually is and I’m not getting any warmer (lots of sexual innuendo you could use here). Black guy gets blown out, I’m in.

    I’m about to leave cuz I think she thinks I’m a chode, but my eye contact says otherwise. She pulls me back in and I say more witty shit. More convo, she’s loving it. Her white guy chode orbiters start dancing around her to grab her attention. She’s transfixed.

    Her: I’m not kissing you.
    Me: That’s fine (I go for makeout)
    Her: Lol no

    And then I try to go for her number. This is like a 10 min interaction at this point.

    Her: I don’t trust you. You’re too smooth. You do this all the time.
    Me: Why don’t you trust me?
    Her: I don’t know you.
    Me: Did you always know your friends?
    Her: I’m sorry I just don’t know you.

    So I leave and ask my wing “Why won’t she give me her number?”

    GingerWing: Try doing comfort. Go back in there.

    I’m like uggggh, I don’t want to look needy. I realize, really, I don’t want to be vulnerable.

    So I go back in, she flocks back to me. The orbiter dudes are getting really mad so they start trying to bud in.

    As we’re flirting/chatting, the 6’4 dude starts rubbing his butt on me (I’m 5’9).

    Me: Dude, get off me! (I push him off, he looks like he’s about to get in my face)

    She comes in between me and him, pulls me away and goes “It’s okay” (that was the sweetest thing I’ve ever seen wtf, a girl’s never done that me before)

    At this point, we’re close, my arm’s around her waist. Talking in each other’s ears. It’s done as far as ONS’s go.

    Her girlfriend is now surrounded by the orbiters. She tries to pull blondie away from me. Blonde’s swiftly turns around and is like “Stop it, I’m FINE.” or something to that effect. Wrestles free from her and comes back to me o_O?!

    I’m just like… whoa. This chick wants me.

    Me: This is probably the best convo you’ve had all night.
    Her: As far as strangers go, absolutely. I’ve never met anyone so cool and persistent… but you said you don’t have time for me (I kept trying to leave with her number… but she wanted to fuck me, I know it).
    Me: When did I say that?
    Her: You don’t have time for me (leaves again).

    Grrrrr. Just give me your number! (But now I’m like… why didn’t I fuck her???? I checked logistics, not great, she only had her friend with her)

    I reapproach later and the orbiters see me and fortify their defenses. 3 try and block me physically. The tallest one is dancing with blonde with his back to me. I bust through the dudes, but another one blocks my waist with his arm and says “He just cockblocked you bro.”

    Me: Uh, why are you touching me…? (His arm comes off and I move forward)
    Big dude sees me, but I come around him and tap her on the shoulder. She turns around, drops him, back onto me.

    But at this point, I figure I should go for comfort. We talk for like two minutes about college/work. Her friend comes and says I should buy her a drink. I say no lol.

    Blonde: I won’t give you my number… but check out my ass. Don’t touch.
    I grab her hips and pull her into me.

    But I ultimately leave. She says if I see her the next night out, she’ll give me her number. I don’t see her again.

    But really, I didn’t try to fuck her. I got scared guys. I didn’t feel… more like, I couldn’t BELIEVE this was happening.

    Taked about sex with an all girl set. It’s getting easier.

    This quote from Scray’s FR sums it up pretty well:
    http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/6/#comment-heartiste-456524

    “You’re giving off the externals of a guy who can get these girls, so they’re reacting to you as if you’re there, but your internals haven’t caught up so you’re self-sabotaging and “premature ejectulating” and second-guessing and pulling yourself out of there because your brain is like “wtf no way this could be happening, I’m just SCRAY”.

    Except, I’m just HUNTER.

    So I’m like, fucking scared man… but as YaReally said:

    “As much as I hate the term, this is the stage where it’s time to “man up”. 🙂 You’ve got the skillset to lay the groundwork out, all you have to do now is step in and claim what’s yours.”

    That was the theme for last night too. I approach these hot ass girls (7s and 8s) and I would rock their frame by using sexual openers “I’m a virgin trying to get it in. What’s up” and they’d lol cuz my eye contact was unwavering.

    And I’d be like “wait, me? Really???”

    Me: Alright guys, we’ll see ya around.

    Jeezus…

    But oh boy, the 9s… they don’t react to me yet. Or they do, but they see that I’m effected by their hotness and they bail/ignore.

    Pushed through a lot of discomfort, man. Going after hotter girls. I’m becoming a different person and it’s mindblowing… it’s only a matter of time.

    P.S. Been working on my body language lately. Looked up Cajun’s sections on Beyond Words and his recommendations to watch The Wild One with Marlon Brando. The results are… as you can tell… only making me more alpha/unreactive. Tonality is way louder too.

    Started Sex God Method. Good read.

    AlphaWing says I’m still too soft tho… he didn’t see me with the blonde and the other chicks as of late so I don’t blame him 🙂

    Anyway, time for me to man up. Later bros.

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    • Hunter I love this story. I can feel myself in a situation like this. Great job plowing through the bullshit.

      I also dig the honesty. Same kind of things I am thinking about.

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    • @Hunter
      Good stuff dude. Careful not to get into a fight lol the key is that she kept choosing you. If you persist with her but she’s not showing much ACTIVE interest, then the guys can justify kicking your ass. But if SHE chooses YOU, like she kept doing, then they’re forced to stand there impotent or at best try to prevent you from getting into her field of vision again, because then they aren’t beating up a guy harassing her, they’re beating up a guy she LIKES and they won’t do that. (at least not around her lol they may wait outside the bar for you or something after she leaves so keep them on your radar).

      As long as she’s ACTIVELY choosing you (VS subtly being into you but hiding it) they won’t do anything.

      Also the hotter girls are often the ones more likely to tell their friends to fuck off if they like you. The average wishy washy 6 will let her friends drag her away because she needs group approval more. But a hotter girl will be like “no shut up I like this one go away” because she rarely meets a guy who interests her and doesn’t flinch around her and doesn’t want her friends to fuck it up.

      Fuck up is from what Scray said where you haven’t grown into the big boy pants you’re wearing now (lol) and mental success barriers (like you don’t deserve a girl of that quality in your head yet which manifests as stuff like prematurely ejecting the set, going for the number instead of the lay, convincing yourself she must be a hooker or it’s some sort of trick, etc).

      Both of those are just internal issues that will sort themselves out as you collect reference experiences and your brain normalizes interacting with hot girls. Then it’ll chill and tell you “of course this girl is into you” instead of “wtf I can’t believe this is happening!!”

      Props on your progress over the last year. Even your writing is less wishy-washy/stifled and is expressing your personality more. A year ago you were being blown out for not having anything to say and being unable to get an emotional reaction out of girls lol

      For that chick you had insane Attraction but Attraction doesn’t get you laid, Comfort does. It would’ve been hard in that enviro and with all her bodyguards to get like half an hour isolated with her to build deep comfort (not just what do you do in school but like what are your hopes and dreams in life and exchanging/connecting on vulnerabilities etc all that deep shit…with hot girls I like to talk about looks and people’s perception of them and how people probably misjudge them etc and go into a bit of general social observations to show that I understand her world and the types of lame guys she had to deal with etc, which a lot of guys don’t…like I’ll tell her I don’t think her boyfriends here approve of me and we’ll bond over how they all want to fuck her but she isn’t into them and explore some of that etc to show that I get it and go into stuff about how they never even really see the real her because she comes in a pretty package and she has to live up to expectations and that’s why she can’t give me her number because people would judge her etc etc) and Relevance is important too like not just what does she do for fun but how does that relate to you and your world and how could the two be combined to where she can imagine her and you together VS just knowing stuff about you.

      Hard to pull that off in that situation but if you could have, that would’ve gotten you the number, cause she was definitely heavily Attracted.

      All good tho. Lots of lessons learned. Glad you’re using solid eye contact. Watch the Liam McRae and Richard LaRuina vids a million times lol the Lovesystems Beyond Words videos are great esp Cajun’s section. He’s on Keys to the VIP if you want to see him in action, just type it into YouTube. He’s a great example of low-energy game.

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      • @Reco – Thanks man.

        “Great job plowing through the bullshit.”

        It’s funny, I didn’t even see it as plowing. It was so below me, that I might as well ignore it and continue, ESPECIALLY since it was clear she was into me, was how I saw it.

        Also, can’t get help if I’m not honest 🙂 Glad you can relate — I really think we’ll make it through to the other side.

        @YaReally

        “Careful not to get into a fight lol”

        Lol fuck those dudes. Tryna mess up my shit with their weak game… I’m not a fight tho, I usually don’t try to start anything.

        “Hard to pull that off in that situation but if you could have, that would’ve gotten you the number, cause she was definitely heavily Attracted.”

        I’ve had this problem consistently. This problem of “opening up and going deep.” I’m going to really try hard to get to this point and push past it.

        I didn’t really try to isolate other than turn her back to her friend and the orbiters. At one point the friend just jumps into our convo. I’m like “what happened to all those guys? Weren’t you busy?” She sort of just smiled.

        Who knows what could’ve happened. I did befriend her, after all. Oh well. Onto the next.

        Thanks for the breakdown. Lots of things learned, as you said. I’ll take a look at those resources this week, head out again to push my limits, and report back.

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      • *not a fighter (typo)

        Oh, and I talk loud, but I’m not bouncing around everywhere like before. I’m definitely a verbose, proactive type of guy. I’d also say I have a medium energy, not necessary high or super boringly low. Let me know if this makes sense.

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  48. Austin, Texas is an 18 year old, red-haired, ranchers daughter skinny-dipping in crystal clear water under an insanely gorgeous technicolor sky.

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  49. OT but the lunacy of it is compelling

    In Dortmund, Germany socialist and ecologist want to change half of the traffic lights in the city in their eternal quest for ” equality”
    When you think you saw everything it always turns out you did not
    Next thing you ask yourself is what have I done to be so severely punished of been born in this disgusting age?

    http://www.metronews.fr/info/allemagne-a-dortmund-des-feux-tricolores-a-deux-sexes/mnkp!aRQRcY1dMgHg/

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  50. on November 16, 2014 at 9:21 pm the Southerner

    Meh, I haven’t had sex since 2006 and I can tell you that I’d never drop to my knees, much less do it for 30 days.

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  51. From what I’ve seen, this is particularly common behavior from men of the Asian persuasion, especially the ones that haven’t really adapted to American culture. Just the other day I was studying with this Indonesian kid from one of my classes and happened to eavesdrop on his phone conversation. Bear in mind this guy is fucking loaded (Indonesian money). His exact words were “eight grand is my final offer.” After he hung up I asked him jokingly what that was about. He said his girlfriend dumped him and he’s trying to get her back. I shit you not he said her response was “I didn’t realize you were so poor. Call me back when you have a better offer.”
    With that said, I also know a short, awkward-looking Filipino guy born and raised in LA who pulls 7s and 8s on a regular basis. I’m guessing cultural conditioning has a lot to do with it…

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