Racial Differences In Testosterone

Anyone who’s lived a day in his life (or played summer football in a city park or worked out at a vibrant gym) has noticed that different races have different musculature and athletic talent. Blacks are the most ripped, and often the biggest, particularly in the deltoids and lats. They respond the fastest to resistance training and are amazingly agile on their feet, (something you have to marvel at the first time a black guy with the ball makes a cut around you).

Whites are the most varied, ranging from nerd skinny to hulking well-marbled powerlifter. Few whites can get as defined as blacks, so you really become aware of those white guys who do manage to carve their abs and delts well past the norm for their race. Whites also have wider waists than blacks, and tend to stockiness, although this is far from a universal white trait.

Asians are the slightest and the least toned, and are less varied in appearance than either blacks or whites, (although asian sub-groups, like Koreans, who hit the gym hard can become quite strong in compound movements like the squat that leverage their naturally lower center of gravity and shorter limbs).

Hispanics (or amerindians, if you prefer) resemble their asian progenitors in muscle tone, but not in gracility. And depending on how you define “hispanic”, their physical variance is either very large (think Spanish-Cuban vs Mestizo) or very small (the round mamacita millions).

All these racial differences in physique are far more noticeable in younger men (and women) than in older representatives, owing primarily to the fact that most people of any race get fatter and looser with age, the biological upkeep of their sexual dimorphism becoming less relevant beyond reproductive age, and this symptom of aging is greatly exacerbated by the Western obesity plague, especially in black women who get so enormously fat soon after leaving high school that you’d need a team of archaeologists to excavate evidence of their buried female form.

So, you’d have to be blind or a self-deluding status whoring SWPL leftoid to not notice these differences.

For a while, curious noticers wondering what accounted for their observations would assume that testosterone had something to do with it. After all, T and T mimics are injected by bodybuilders to build huge blocks of muscle. Naturally, one infers that the less muscular-looking races (if not necessarily the less strong) have lower levels of testosterone in their blood.

Finding data on racial differences in testosterone hasn’t been easy, but here’s a website (can’t vouch for impartiality of author) which aggregated study results and compiled the available evidence. What was found was the following:

Average total plasma testosterone in the “Big Three” races, in descending order

East Asians
Africans
White Europeans

The slightest and least muscular race has the highest average T levels!

The complete T level ranking looked like this:

Indo-Aryan (i.e. Iranians and Indians!)
East Asian
African
American
European
Middle Eastern
Latin American

If this meta-analysis is accurate, then clearly average racial serum testosterone levels have little, if any at all, effect on average racial physiques and athleticism. Something else must be contributing to the obvious real world differences in racial musculature and athletic potential. It could be androgen receptor sensitivity. It could be non-free form T levels. It could be serum estrogen levels! It could be an environmental or dietary influence. It could be a suite of genes whose properties we have yet to discover.

The point of all this is that knowledge is inherently good, and lying liars who wish to bury this knowledge under layers of sophistic equalist fat are enemies of the good.

UPDATE

Commenter jeff writes,

The website referenced in the post is bogus. Any desire to frame the material on the referenced website is just an exercise in establishing closure.

The world is as you see it. White people are almost always in the middle of some human measurement; when that falls out of whack you know the data is probably, but not necessarily, incorrect.

Check here:

jcem.endojournals.org/content/91/2/687.full (Swede/Korean study)

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20550541 (South Asian vs Caucasian)

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12608929 (Pakistani v. White v. African)

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22177168 (penis size & anogenital distance, correlation to higher testosterone)

healthandenvironment.org/ docs/Eisenberg_2012_The_Relationship_Between _Anogenital_Distance_ and_Reproductive_Hormone_Levels_in_Adult_Men.pdf (same study from above in depth)

Read the linked individual studies. They’re very interesting, (especially the anogenital one… that’s out of left field), and some do support a Rushtonian B>W>A gradient in testosterone levels. The debate continues.

Commenter splooge adds that black men are beginning to dominate the “sport” of bodybuilding. In the article, eight-time Mr. Olympia winner Lee Haney admits that the reason blacks do so well in sports and bodybuilding is “our genetics”. Jimmy the Greek wept.

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Another great comment, this time from roccopilsner.

You have Looks vs. Performance. Looks are for fags and narcissists (when talking about body building), and even women don’t get soaked over a veiny , high blood pressure having Body Builder…sorry they just don’t.

I have been involved in the sports world (boxing and later MMA) competitor , later as a trainer and later as a trainer/cut man for years. I have also been in and around a fairly high level of training of wrestling and powerlifting athletes for many years as well. It’s a simple break down that holds pretty true in my experiences:

– Blacks are quick. They have longer legs than other races on avg, they have greater stride and lots of fast twitch muscle fibers. They excel at jumping and sprinting activities. Speed positions in the NFL, NBA, Olypmpic sprinting (think the tiny Island of Jamaica for instance) The Yang to this Yin, and that the more speedy and explosive the man, the shorter his stamina. Kenyan Africans are thin and not very strong, they run for ever and a day…Jamaicans sprint , yet you will rarely see one go more than a few hundred yards. Blacks tend to be speedy with stamina problems while Asians are built for the long haul but get there very slowly. Whites span the middle ground…

– Whites are by far the largest and strongest (different from powerful and explosive) The largest and most powerful are usually Northern European. Think Strong man champions tend to be either directly from Northern Europe, or descendants of. Think some of the best NFL Lineman are usually white, 330lbs plus with agility and strength , but not much on the verticle. This is also where the genetics come in. You see an NFL lineman or a powerlifter and they might have some extra pounds around the waist line but it does not affect athleticism or power. (Check out ex Collegiate Wrestler and Offensive line pro-bowler for the Patriots Steven Neil and how he can do a back flip at 330lbs…also his 40 is insane)

This is another reason why MMA has more successful white, Hispanic and Asian competitors than pure boxing, because you are allowed to hold and clamp down on your opponent instead of focusing on fleet footedness + evasion + reach + Rhythm that you have in boxing which is tailor made for Blacks.

Asians – Philipinos , Laotians, Thai and Tongan peoples (Far South East Asia) have rhythm, tend to be very athletic and their behavior lends itself to higher T anyways,…Far more sexual ,more violent (boxing and kick boxing are very popular) etc etc

I would say Hispanic males (mestizo not mulato) have a fairly high testosterone level, as shown by their macho culture, success in boxing, aggression towards women etc etc…most latinos I competed against were strong for their size, had natural stamina (Hwt Champion of the UFC is a Mexican and has the gas tank of a 120 fighter) though they are not naturally muscular or cut.

Realtalk may be dying in the prestige press, but it is alive and well at the Chateau.





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    • on August 18, 2014 at 5:23 pm Swedish reader

      Believe, but cannot prove currently: neanderthal (and denisovan) DNA matters a lot in these matters.

      See eg Koanic Soul and others in the edensphere for more speculation.

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    • @CH-also, i read somewhere that blacks have slightly longer tendons and slightly shorter muscles which helps explosions because the tendon is like a rubber band. Couldn’t they look bigger because of their much darker skin just like body builders tan to look bigger. Last, one has to look if they were born with recessive Myostatin genes like Hershell Walker who is born with one. Thats why he doesnt have to lift weights. He just has to do pushups and pullups. A person can be born with a maximum of 2 recessive myostatin genes. Myostatin inhibits muscles to get too big. There is a WHITE boy in germany born with 2 recessive genes but his identity is kept secret. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5278028/ns/health-genetics/t/genetic-mutationturns-tot-superboy/#.U_N-bmPva6I

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    • in mma asian fighters have not been doing well at all. They have been on the decline especially japanese fighters whom are the best. Even though its growing in other nations like korea,phillipines,china, they are not that great. Starting see that korea may surpass japan. But europe whom are newer to the game and they are adapting better I think…even their african and middle eastern migrants residing there.
      But I think its money that boils it down too. Like whites always pioneer a sport Like bodybuilding,mma,strongman,boxing,etc. But when the money gets good then the blacks come in. Like in Bodybuilding aside from Sergio Olivia and that 1 lebanese guy, all bodybuilders were white and dominated the scene. After Arnold popularized and the cash prizes started getting big then the blacks start dominating. During Arnolds day prizes were like $1000.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Olympia

      Same story with boxing and now mma. All the UFC champs are either black or latino now. With the exception of GSP(whom steped away) and let Johnny Hendricks take the tittle whom almost lost it to a Hawaiian. And theres Chris “the fluke Weidman whom is a very good sharp fighter and highly dangerous, but his wins over Anderson Silva were lack luster since he danced around and barely attacked and got KOed(bound to catch up to him) and the 2nd time though dominated, when it looked like he was getting into his “rhythm” he breaks his leg when his kick got checked(though well timed it is rare for the leg to break). Plus he was old like 38 while Chris was 29.

      After seeing the success of weightlifters/powerlifers from Nigeria and Samoa. i think when the money gets good, you will see more blacks in strongman, and guaranteed theyll be of west african origin(ghana nigieria etc), But more likely theyll train outta europe,USA or perhaps Jamaica. Marius Pudzianowski (best strongman ever)even said that the World Strongest Man winner only gets 60K.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Strongman_Cup_Federation
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strongman_(strength_athlete)

      keep in mind when we say white, it should be Caucasoid since persian and indian strongmen have existed…even south indian whom are not caucasoid.

      we are all related

      But the link below the commenter trainer basically saw most of his white fighters be endomorphs whom have large waists and thick legs which is very helpfully in wrestling(think great Gamas physique). Those powerful legs and overall strength combined with momentum and mass they will come out on top. THough there are good ectos and mesos as well. But in grappling its better to be the short stocky guy but exceptions happen like Teddy Riner (6 ft 8 skinny blackman) the greatest Judoka ever. And in judo its better to be short and stocky like wrestling for lower centre of gravity. While the meso blacks though can bulk up to do similar(though wont have as powerful legs), Those big bone guys just do better at short bursts of power whether its running or lifting.
      Come to think of it non ectos are just better at short intense burst of power.
      I dont know the situation of wrsetling in USA but is colligate basketball more lucrative then wrestling?hence why less blacks or are just some states plain have better training like Ohio and Oregan have better wrestlers then say Hawaii,Texas,New York or Lousiana? So as a result the ethnics dont do as well. Just a theory

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Judo_Championships

      http://www.brianmac.co.uk/bodytype.htm

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      • Splooge you are a joke and so are your arguments. First off African American blacks are best of blacks becuase they have been bred to be best by whites. African blacks wont ever reach that level unless they suddenly practice eugenics so that part of your argument is destroyed. Secondly, Russia has proven to be stronger than blacks because slav genes but they are also a poor/malnutrictioned country which is why they have lower lifespans over there. Plus, here is a huge problem with your argument. 50 years ago boxing league was around 90 percent black but now it’s only 50 percent and you actually have more whites in professional boxing. Finally, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_champions.
        Only 2 black guys on list. 3 white guys.

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      • theres no way you follow UFC lol. funny guy… 5/9 of the UFC champs are white bro go check UFC.com. white/white hispanic people dominate in MMA. youre definitely black. let me guess you think Egyptians were black too? hahaha. can we do a study on racial delusion? blacks have go to be at the top of that list. shit is crazy. i feel sorry for you.

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      • btw the much-hyped black light-heavyweight fighter everyone said was going straight to the top, Ovince Saint Preux, just got his ass beat by *drumroll* WHITE GUY, Ryan Bader. what a shocker. Bones Jones will lose to a white dude soon enough. honestly i dont even like doing this whole which race is better shit, but you need to give credit where its due. white people are beasts at MMA. it is what it is.

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      • @Invictus
        I do follow it, I do realize they are “white latin” fighters but I didnt count em since for some reason in north america and some WN circles they dont count them as white for some reason. Like 1 in 3 people in latin america is full blooded european especially in the southern part of the continent. Hell even you mestizo from mexico is 70% european. Yet they are labeled “ethnic”. To me they are white,culturally,lingusitcally,religiously and ethnically.
        I disagree, Egypt was a causcoid dominated region like the rest of north africa such as the berber people.

        I wasnt dissing white fighters,in fact Im a fan of some of them and root for them about most of the time espically when competing in asia. i actually like Bader, though I didnt get to see the fight, one anyalist was saying he has alot of physical talents but hed be effective if he got better coaching. I like the swede fighter too and would like to see a rematch cauze that fight was razor thin. Look if any race is gonna dominate fighting Id nominate those big ass pacific islanders and aggressive guys from the Caucasus of russia for obvious reasons.
        You know you can even argue that all champions are white considering the average african american carries 15% european DNA hence why they look different then their west african counterparts, whom theyll never accept as one of their own.
        Feel whatever u want thats a chicks thing.

        @John cool
        yes a joke merely for adding a different opinion where there is debates among scholars to this day….pretty retarded witht eh name calling.
        The slave thing can be debated since there are so many fatties in their community in fact worse then whites. So 1 can argue that made them worse. Plus slavery was around for what like 3ooyrs, while back in the jungle where their from eugenics wouldve played that role for thousands and millions of years to do that. This happened with all races including whites. In europe with all these deadly conquerors like vikings,moors,mongols,huns,turk,roman,greeks,etc coming in and sowing their oats and diseases such as the plague ravishing them wouldnt have asimilar effect like african diseases and tribesmen weeding out the weak ones? Plus like I said these are west africans and in africa they were known to be big boned,muscular and broad featured people compared to east africans whom are the opposite.Kinda how we compare north to south euros.
        They lived in unforgiving terrain, even though the winter sucks in europe, at least, you dont get those crazy animals like you do in the tropics, everything there is out to get you…even bugs.
        European eugenics is baiscally getting ruined now with more sickly whites around be born thanx to irresponisble single mothers having them at a late age increasing their chances to be autistic or crippled at worst to being average at best.
        Slavs are not always the strongest but are currently very tough,smart and motivated…..former soviet union people so mad respect to them. Yes the nuture aspect in africa is hindering them. Its rare to have good athletes to come from any 3 world country cuz well they are crap. But when they or their kids trin here, they become really good.Like the best athletes youll find whether it be african,indian,arab,asian,latin,islander,etc the best come from 1st world training. You go to fiji their team members in training try and play with coconut for rugby…no joke. Even though whites have had more fighters, but look at it pound for pound. Like there were barely any whites on the french national team 8yrs ago(i think it was like 4 of em). Or the large amount of islanders in new zealand all blacks team,blacks in premier league,dagestani and chechnian overrep in russias olympic wrestling teams,sambo teams or sanda teams.
        Ya it seems sports come in waves like we are starting to see asian champions in boxing even straight from africa like south africa and nambia. The west is losing its monopoly on boxing like japan and judo.
        Whites pioneer sports, coloreds come later when the going is good. The UFC is trying hard to promote in other nations like in europe and be ready to see some ethinc competitors. LIke how holland’s kickboxing scene is getting taken over by surinamese,Moroccans and turks….though could change as those groups barely migrate to the country and the new immigrants in the next generation will take over. But think thatll get muddy since many are figuring how to be the dutch style.
        Not talking about take over, Im talking about potential despite crap training facilites and the overrep for their population when tring here.

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    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Felix

      heres the black guy I was looking for. He came dam close to place in the top 3 but I give him props due to his age and late start to the sport. Gets you wondering if he started early like the other guys on how good hed be.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Strongest_Man

      Namibia,Nigeria,Samoa and Fiji they actually placed in the top 10 but never won, gets you thinking what those nations will have in store when they get richer,improve and learn in the western countrys. Plus those would be pioneers to the sport in their countrys so of course their success will be limited until over time they take over like what happened with Japan and Judo or England and soccer. Give it time until strongman goes more international or until they get their big star to promote.

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      • No one was stopping blacks from getting into power lifting moron and whites/asians dominate them there. Are you biased because you are black or something? MMA is not dominated by blacks 75 percent winners have been white. White hispanics do count.

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      • 5/9 OF THE UFC CHAMPS ARE WHITE. sorry wanted to make sure he saw that.

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  2. It’s been known for a while in bodybuilding and powerlifting circles that HGH and IGF-1 play a big role in musculature (GH and T or AAS in combination is highly synergistic).

    That said, it mainly comes down to genes. An average white guy can spend $100,000 a year on all the best pharmaceuticals and exotic drugs and peptides and he’ll still look like shit compared to a black guy with excellent genetics who trains hard.

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    • Don’t know about that. Whites have the widest chest muscles, right? If you look at power lifting it is dominated by Germanics and North Slavs.

      It is also striking how mixed martial arts is dominated by Whites. (The only sport I enjoy watching, by the way, since it is the only one where participants are allowed to fight with all they got in order to win.) And wrestling, naturally. Blacks have an advantage in boxing because their arms are longer, but when you are allowed to use your whole body and get up close and personal, Whites win.

      Blacks also have worse static muscles, so they’ll always be lousy at skiing and skating. And while we’re talking sports, everyone knows Blacks can’t swim. Well, the vast majority of them can’t, and those who can notice that their bodies aren’t made for it. Heavier bones? Whatever – it’s Whites and Asians in the swimming contests.

      I have heard – from a Black man – that if you go to western Africa their physical state is appalling. They don’t bother to work out and have arms like toothpicks. You might say, “But that’s Africa, they are so poor they can barely eat!” but that’s because you come from a country where people can’t even find Ukraine on the map. There are many, many large cities in Africa where people have plenty of money for weaves, so they can sure afford gyms. They just don’t go to them.

      As for the other races (must not forget diversity!) the Middle Easterners have lousy musculature. Their shorter chest muscles and general build prevent them from ever excelling in sports. And they get fat as soon as they can afford to stuff themselves with chicken and wheat flour, wheat flour, wheat flour, which is all they buy at the store. (Food-wise. Aside from that it’s cigarettes, beer, Coke, French bread rolls and potato chips, also known as a Gypsy dinner.) Women in the Middle East are notoriously fat. I see the immigrant kids when I go swimming, the disgusting little fatties waddle around without shame despite looking like genetic failures. These are Syrians, Arabs, Kurds and Turks – the Persians are generally slimmer and look better. Probably because they clearly have a lot more White DNA than the other slave descendants in the Middle East.

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      • @Arbiter – you’re on to something but I want to make a few corrections..

        – Far East like Paki Indian and to a lesser extent Afghani (there is a bit of Nordic Blood in those mountains but that is another discussion) but most Indians and Pakis are of a woeful state strength and athleticism wise.

        – You are wrong about other Middle Easterners however. The Persians, Iraqi’s Syrians, etc while you are correct most sit around smoking and eating rubbish, there is a decent % of powerful and athletic men over there. Iran has some great wrestlers and that is their most popular sport. Also through the the “Stans” where its a mix of white Russian with Asiatic people’s are some very powerful men. Some of the women are remarkable as well.

        – The middle Eastern kids here are usually lame.this is because in their culture the mother treats them all like little princes and feeds them sweets all day,

        – Blacks have lots of lean muscle and dense bones, hence inability to float or swim great distance.

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 4:35 pm Flim-Flam Man

        I have heard – from a Black man – that if you go to western Africa their physical state is appalling. They don’t bother to work out and have arms like toothpicks. You might say, “But that’s Africa, they are so poor they can barely eat!” but that’s because you come from a country where people can’t even find Ukraine on the map. There are many, many large cities in Africa where people have plenty of money for weaves, so they can sure afford gyms. They just don’t go to them.

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        Here’s something interesting from Steve Sailer on the topic:

        http://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/09/black-v-white-physical-differences-in.html

        He flubs it on talking about black’s higher testosterone level and more androgen receptors. I just don’t believe that accounts for the differences.

        What percentage of Black Americans go to the gym in comparison to West Africans? Prison yard gymnasiums notwithstanding. The workout culture in America is primarily white.

        I don’t know how accurate this is, but I read in an anthropology textbook that African Americans are around 20% white. Also, consider the selective pressure of having to survive the death and disease of slave ships and the hard plantation work.

        It would be in the best interests of a slaver or plantation massah to bring together his strongest and healthiest slaves for breeding purposes. More selective pressure.

        So if African Americans are bigger, stronger and more physically fit than their West African cousins, it may be due to genes rather than laziness. Another thing to consider is that sub-saharan africans have more genetic variation than caucasians (a Bushman, Hottentot, and Pygmy for example).

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      • All that theorizing aside, boxing is considered to be the ‘toughest sport’ in the world, and blacks dominate that sport: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

        ‘Blacks have an advantage in boxing because their arms are longer, but when you are allowed to use your whole body and get up close and personal, Whites win.’

        That’s not how boxing works. Fighters don’t win because of arm length. Many boxers make careers out of ‘in-fighting’ which is ‘getting up close and personal’ where arm reach is irrelevant — if anything, having longer arms against an in-fighter is a disadvantage.

        Most MMA is wrestling. An MMA fight usually has about 10-20% weakish boxing/striking, followed by 80% wrestling/chokes.

        And on that chart, boxing is more difficult than wrestling by about the same degree than wrestling is more difficult than volleyball.

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      • Mixed Martial Arts isn’t my bag – although the UFC is hugely popular in this area – hugging and rubbing shorts with a mostly naked guy doesn’t look like fun.
        Black people do tend to have higher bone density, which may have an impact on their swimming abilities.
        As others have stated, Black people in Africa generally don’t look like Michigan State running backs or some guy you saw in the latest street thug gangsta movie, they’re pretty much all over the map and most of them are fairly normally built, even slender, since many of them have to subsist on a diet of millet or rice or something.
        A day spent herding also starving cattle or plowing dusty fields which ends with a bowl of rice doesn’t leave much time or energy to hit the gym.
        And even if they did work out, not everyone is genetically programmed to appear on the cover of ‘Flex’ magazine.
        If you’re an ectomorph, you can lift all day and juice yourself up with all the kidney-destroying and ball-shrinking supplements GNC and NutriShop can sell you, you will never look like Schwarzenegger.

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      • well west africa is poor but look up the latest commonwealth games. they did quite well. East africans are lanky and would suck at lifting. But northern europeans dont dominate weightlifting anymore, its china now, they ahve more medals then soviet union,wiki it. Hell the best powerlifter right now is persian.
        well in middle east such as afghanistan,iraq,gulf arabia and egypt, there are twice as many obese women then men because its a standard of beauty there. But you will find lots of chubby chasers in the Barbary coast. Persians are getting fat now thanx to Mcdick. In Bahrain you can get Mcdick delivered(with fat accpetance on the rise well be like them).

        its the fat boy nerds that come here, but in europe where they get mass immigration then you see the average guys. They took over french football and are taking over kickboxing along with blacks. Not many good white kickboxers left now.
        But those fatties could have potential like if they are endos they could be great at wreslting with their large legs. Hell last year the iranian team dominated usa in wrestling not just technically but physically too. It was scary how good they were that they beat usa with their own style of wrestling.

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      • There is data showing that the Middle East has one of the highest female – male obesity gaps in the world. I think that mostly it is due to women not being allowed out of the home, not being allowed to play most sports or exercise, swim, or ride bikes. One of the few things that feminism got right was that women should be allowed to physically exercise, whether it is take brisk walks, go swimming, or play sports. Middle Eastern men are so focused on mate guarding that they have unintentionally uglified their women just so that other men won’t take them.

        [CH: it’s complete bullshit that feminism in any way initiated encouragement of women to exercise. since the dawn of europe women have been exercising in the home or in the fields, and fathers have been horseplaying with their daughters. jesus where do you people come up with this shit?]

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      • Not just “wrestling” but grappling. Judo and Jiu-Jitsu has hundreds of techniques to master. Boxing has a few punches.

        The most talented striker in the UFC is white (Weidman)- training all of two years to Anderson Silva’s 20 and despite his name, he’s not jewish.

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      • [CH: it’s complete bullshit that feminism in any way initiated encouragement of women to exercise. since the dawn of europe women have been exercising in the home or in the fields, and fathers have been horseplaying with their daughters. jesus where do you people come up with this shit?]

        I agree with CH. In fact feminism here is promoting the opposite aka fat acceptance. But in that part of the world the fat woman is considered better looking. Must have something to due with their old Bedouin days looking for food so fat chick means survival..Its the same case with Bangladesh,some african and pacific island nations.
        This is an attempt from the western left to shame middle eastern culture. You dont need to get in shame outside the home. You can get in shape at home,whole lot cheaper.

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      • Scray
        All that theorizing aside, boxing is considered to be the ‘toughest sport’ in the world, and blacks dominate that sport:
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        Thank you Scray. You need far more conditioning and discipline to be a boxer. And in the era before fire arms, when swords and shields were the order of the day, the ability to knock your opponent out of the fight with a single well placed blow was key; rolling around on the ground trying to choke someone was not.

        You mentioned “inside boxers”; Ken Norton made a career out of destroying opponents with longer reach who thought they could stand off and lob bombs from a safe distance.

        This is what makes boxing so interesting and “chess like”. Different fighters require different strategies based on what tools they decide to deploy from their tool kit. The best example is Ali, who beat larger and stronger opponents by using the most effective weapon any fighter has; the mind.

        Its disgusting that boxing has become so corrupt.

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      • @Scray

        12 of the last 19 world heavyweight boxing champions have been white. It may be higher than that, I was simply going by nationality/name, and not seeing if the Canadian and Americans or British were white or black or “other”. Lots of Eastern Europe and Russia on the list, as of late.

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      • The top ten pound for pound boxers — 4 blacks, 2 white, 3 latino, 1 Filipino.
        http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings

        ‘Not just “wrestling” but grappling. Judo and Jiu-Jitsu has hundreds of techniques to master. Boxing has a few punches’

        Lol. Yes ‘a few punches,’ along with all the hundreds of angles to throw those punches from. Please take a look at Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao fighting. Sure, there’s only a few ‘types’ of punches, but you’d have to be silly to believe that all they had to master were literally a few punches. You also have to master how to move your entire body with each punch and type of punch and angle of that punch.

        People like to believe MMA is ‘more realistic’ or some stupid crap like that and people repeat the ‘all real fights go to the ground’ nonsense. No they fucking don’t. In a real street fight, if you end up on the ground, you’re dead. That factoid comes from the LAPD — and guess what, police are supposed to take assailants down to the ground. That’s not ‘real world’ fighting.

        Here is footage of a real fight:

        He’s taking on multiple attackers with straight boxing. Please show me where someone is able to simultaneously ‘MMA-grapple-hold’ a gang of individuals. You won’t find it, because it doesn’t exist, because it’s not real.

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      • “boxing is considered to be the ‘toughest sport’ in the world”

        Not cross country skiing?

        Every sport with an endurance component is tough because whatever the sport, you max yourself out in competition.

        But whatever. Boxing is a great sport but it’s only somewhat indicative of fighting ability because no real one-on-one fight resembles a boxing match after the first punch is thrown. Even boxers themselves have to be constantly separated by the ref once they start ‘hugging.’

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    • There is greater genetic diversity in Africa – where most African-Americans came from – than in any other part of the world. It makes sense that Africans selected for fitness for physical labor would tend toward being really strong physical specimens, as would their kids. If you take a cross section of actual Africans, however, you find that they have a flatter distribution curve of physical abilities – more extremely good runners, as well as more individuals who are gassed if they have to step off a curb quickly. Most of the best powerlifters are Eastern or northern European – but it doesn’t necessarily mean that on the average, Europeans have more explosive strength, just that there’s a lot more really strong outliers, and the median in those regions may be closer to the outliers – or that the curve may be flatter. Genetics do win out in individual cases for sure, but it’s a mistake to take the center of the bell curve as representative of the whole thing, and to take the extreme ends of the curve as being representative of the middle. It’d be nice to see more data on this.

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    • You have Looks vs. Performance. Looks are for fags and narcissists (when talking about body building), and even women don’t get soaked over a veiny , high blood pressure having Body Builder…sorry they just don’t.

      I have been involved in the sports world (boxing and later MMA) competitror , later as a trainer and later as a trainer/cut man for years. I have also been in and around a fairly high level of training of wrestling and powerlifting athletes for many years as well. It’s a simple break down that holds pretty true in my experiences:

      – Blacks are quick. They have longer legs than other races on avg, they have greater stride and lots of fast twitch muscle fibers. They excel at jumping and sprinting activities. Speed positions in the NFL, NBA, Olypmpic sprinting (think the tiny Island of Jamaica for instance) The Yang to this Yin, and that the more speedy and explosive the man, the shorter his stamina. Kenyan Africans are thin and not very strong, they run for ever and a day…Jamaicans sprint , yet you will rarely see one go more than a few hundred yards. Blacks tend to be speedy with stamina problems while Asians are built for the long haul but get there very slowly. Whites span the middle ground…

      – Whites are by far the largest and strongest (different from powerful and explosive) The largest and most powerful are usually Northern European. Think Strong man champions tend to be either directly from Northern Europe, or descendants of. Think some of the best NFL Lineman are usually white, 330lbs plus with agility and strength , but not much on the verticle. This is also where the genetics come in. You see an NFL lineman or a powerlifter and they might have some extra pounds around the waist line but it does not affect athleticism or power. (Check out ex Collegiate Wrestler and Offensive line pro-bowler for the Patriots Steven Neil and how he can do a back flip at 330lbs…also his 40 is insane)

      This is another reason why MMA has more successful white, Hispanic and Asian competitors than pure boxing, because you are allowed to hold and clamp down on your opponent instead of focusing on fleet footedness + evasion + reach + Rhythm that you have in boxing which is tailor made for Blacks.

      Asians – Philipinos , Laotians, Thai and Tongan peoples (Far South East Asia) have rhythm, tend to be very athletic and their behavior lends itself to higher T anyways,…Far more sexual ,more violent (boxing and kick boxing are very popular) etc etc

      I would say Hispanic males (mestizo not mulato) have a fairly high testosterone level, as shown by their macho culture, success in boxing, aggression towards women etc etc…most latinos I competed against were strong for their size, had natural stamina (Hwt Champion of the UFC is a Mexican and has the gast tank of a 120 fighter) though they are not naturally muscular or cut.

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 10:28 am The Burninator

        Fantastic observations roccopilsner, seem very consistent with observed reality. Even a historical view of how each ethnicity/race developed in arms and combat tend to confirm these views. Long haul types had decent, but not overly heavy armor and fast weapons (Asians) and relied on technique and aggressiveness, blacks generally were built for speed with very little armor outside of natural fiber shields and spears, AmerInds (aka hispanics) were highly aggressive and their weaponry frightening yet they had very little to any real armor, and Europeans were clad nose to toes in heavy leathers and heavy metals and they generally wielded heavy, powerful weaponry, up to the point that they figured out the business end of firearms. Arabic cultures tended to have close ties to Europeans via trade for most of their existence, and had a smidge of their weaponry (swords, daggers) and some idea of armor, and although where these originated can be debated, there’s no question that the Europeans favored the heavy-tank/heavy-weapon mode of combat whereas others, not so much. They were built for it.

        It takes a lot of sheer physical strength to run across marshes and glenns in chainmail or a heavy cuir boilli (sp) and shields and still have power left when you arrive at the battle point to hack away at other men, with big ass swords, glaives, maces or hammers, for a couple of hours. You didn’t get rewarded for being fast, light and able to jump high very often, outside of a few random organizations in Ireland and Scotland which valued these traits as a nice compliment to the chainmail types. Even when the Gaels, or Greek, showed up to battle naked (yes, that’s right, way way back in the day) they eventually figured out to carry heavy shields and heavy weaponry that simply did not take precedence with other races (outside of the battle clubs of Amerinds).

        Throw a Zulu warrior troupe in around a bunch of period Gaelic warrior poets, or Vikings in chain, and they’d find themselves outmatched quickly assuming they didn’t figure things out and retreat to come up with a better strategy than ‘run fast into the group and spear them while yelling’.

        All just musing and semi-speculation of course.

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      • Yes, but can ANY of them withstand Sharknado… THAT’S the pressing question, these days.

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    • nah; you’d be surprised what a little bit of AAS can do to an average guy. Run your T level up to 1500 and see for yourself.

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    • “All that theorizing aside, boxing is considered to be the ‘toughest sport’ in the world”

      Lol. Who gives a fuck about ESPN.

      Also, reach is an advantage regardless of infighting. Most infighters aren’t black anyway and those that are, were weren’t the best athletes anyway.

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      • When I boxed a bit in the Army, I had to become an infighter due to the LARGE advantage the negro boxers had in reach… if you fought them like you would white fighters, you’d suddenly get hit in a space distance you thought impossible. I’m talking 3″ and 4″ reach advantage from guys the same height and weight.

        So bullshit on anyone who says reach isn’t an advantage… also note that, for a white guy, my reach was a bit longer than average, and I would routinely destroy anyone where I had even a mere 2″ reach advantage.

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      • Did you know how to counter punch well?

        and if you did, did you every give your opponent and opening just so you could counter punch?

        Thats what I mean by the “mental game”; you lay traps baited with the apple you know they will bite.

        also, did you ever pretend a punch rocked you when it really didn’t?

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      • also, did you ever pretend a punch rocked you when it really didn’t?

        Funny you should mention…

        One fight I had with a guy who looked like a light-heavy Manute Bol, he would dance and jab, dance and jab, and for the first two rounds I couldn’t get anywhere near him… I mean, the sonuvabitch had a 6″ reach advantage, and must have been 6′ 8”… but only 175 lbs.

        Pitter-patter jabs that had the strength of gnats, but quick on his feet so I couldn’t get at him.

        Finally, in the third round, I purposely leaned in on one of the pitter-pats and acted like he stunned me… when he finally moved towards me, with intent to hit with more of a jab, I likewise moved forward and got a nice hook in on the lower ribs. He wanted no part of even getting close enough for jabs after that, and I chased him for the remainder of the round, to no avail.

        He won on points, of course… but all who saw it laughed about how I won the fight, because I didn’t have a mark on me, and he could barely lift his legs to exit the ring.

        That’s when I realized I had to learn infighting if I wanted to get serious about boxing… but I only wound up with 15 fights before a knee injury (playing basketball, mind you) rendered me hors de combat for the ring.

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      • Lennox Lewis was one of the finest boxers I’ve seen. A lot of his success was also down to his extraordinary size and reach though. Big guy wins 9/10 times.

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  3. on August 18, 2014 at 12:48 pm The Spirit Within

    Re: Asians.

    Does high T correlate with mathematical aptitude? I can’t remember.

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  4. http://www.amazon.com/The-Sports-Gene-Extraordinary-Performance/dp/1591845114

    Lots of surprising real talk for a recent popular science book.

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    • I read this recently, and recommend it (To those interested in sports and the ‘ why what how’ behind training, anyway)

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  5. Black men are bulls and have big dicks; Asians are cute lady-boys and make white men’s dicks look big; White men are handsome and rough it up with sluts you would not want to marry. I know this is true as that is what I see on XHamster. Purely in the interests of research you understand.

    [CH: a keen-eyed tally of street corner loiterers will give you a better unbiased sample than xhamster.]

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    • The one thing you learn from watching porn, which actually has to appeal to ordinary men, is that men prefer women with just-right curves. So why are fashion models so slim? Why do they take slimming drugs that give their faces that avian look? Well, the Jewish homosexuals who have hijacked the business do like the boyish shape.

      Remember that homosexual prostitute that went haywire a decade or so ago, killing big names in the fashion industry? That was hilarious.

      But I digress. U.S. Blacks, despite being only 12 percent of the U.S. population, make up more than 40 percent of the buyers or porn. Note that the buyers also include the vast overseas markets, and U.S. blacks are still more than 40 percent of buyers. They only want to see porn that makes them look like they have “da big dicks” since they are on a Stone Age level and have nothing else. So the porn producers re-use the same … “performers” over and over again. Well, the research I have heard about says they do have longer penises – in the non-erect state. Long non-erect penises don’t change length as much when erigated, so in the erect state it evens out. Though if someone wants to argue differently, no matter. We are only supposed to think that abnormally large genitals (do the African women have larger, flappier vaginas?) are something to be desired because the media owners use it to flatter the criminal race, in the absence of anything else. If Whites straighten out the West’s direction, they can have that to flatter themselves about wherever they end up. If we don’t set the course straight, the Chinese will have a fun time listening to Black chatter about genitals as they clear them out of the North American military districts. Either way it won’t matter much.

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      • Damn Arbiter, you sound like you’ve given this much thought. The ” stats ” you speak of are hilarious and you are quite entertaining. I’m not going to dispute your ” dick-on-the-brain ” logic because I’ve never really cared about the size of other mens anatomies in such vivid detail. But I will say this much ( and then be done with it ), your theory of larger penises not changing length is patently false. Your porn producers theory of the same performers being used is not true and most people don’t really give one fvck what anyone thinks of their dick. It’s a big deal to everyone else, positive or negative.

        Your comments are always a great read though, even if they are not factual or insightful. keep up the highly substandard work.

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      • ….he tries so very hard..i give him that…

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      • Au contraire, the explosion of ‘interracial’ porn (which is nearly always hulking thuggish vibrants mangling petite caucasian girls) is, according to the man who makes most of it (Billy Watson whose blog is a great insight into the entire sector from within – http://www.ishootporn.com), due to white guys consuming. Academics have asked to access his database to write about it, and he has refused but instead offered the following analysis – he gets abuse all the time about race treachery, encouraging mudsharking and coalburning, etc, all from his own subscribers. In other words, people sign up, pay their dollar, jerk off, feel inadequate and guilty about their own cuck fetish, and email the man who sold them the porn to rant and rave.
        In response he did what any good entrepreneur would do – and expanded his range to include overt cuck porn, which has now become its own sub-genre. He happily accepts that most dicks are about the same size, but his customers, the guilty cuck white racist guys, want to see teeny white girls ravaged by negro donkey dicks. There aren’t many guys like that out there, so that’s why the same performers are used time and again.
        I parse this as meaning that generations of coddling and white guilt peddling has bred a generation of conflicted white guys who, under the assault of feminism, want to a) see women punished with da cock, and b) feel inadequate about doing so themselves (otherwise they would be doing so and not jerking off), and c) have been encouraged to feel insufficient in comparison to the ever-blameless media depiction of blacks, so c) they fetishize da BBC (and feel bad about it after.)
        This in turn leads to what we’ve seen recently – the 12 vibrant sausage girl for example.

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      • >U.S. Blacks, despite being only 12 percent of the U.S. population, make up more than 40 percent of the buyers or porn.

        Source please. Not that I don’t doubt you, I just want to see stats that confirm what I always suspected about the reason for the prevalence of rape ape cuck porn out there.

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      • Another thing you learn from Porn as was stated by the Surgeon General years ago, is that it is at least somewhat related to violence. Bear with me…

        White or black, most people do not pay to see a guy with an average size penis fuck bitches, just as most people don’t pay to see an average looking female felate and fuck an average guy. They pay for the beauty to get punished stretched out and destroyed. Hence the popularity of large cock porn.

        The porn industry now is filled with deranged fuck wits who push the blacks vs white girls angle, but really since ever since, huge cock porn was popular…just reference John Holmes and the 14″ he packed and he was the whitest most peckerwood looking redneck you can imagine.

        Again this is the visual stimuli vs. reality…but porn is about (or should be about) what you don’t see every day. Sadly with technology its becoming more and more a reality with youngsters watching an absurd amount of porn at a young age and becoming desensitized to the point of assuming that 10″ is normal and bukakkes are a sign of sexual freedom.

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      • And nobody buys porn anymore..who the Eff would buy porn? Its ubiquitous and 100% free.

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      • Captain, Arbiter – this may be of interest. The aforementioned Watson on his subscriber base: http://www.ishootporn.com/6595/ku-klux-klan-por/

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      • The email from the college professor assistant seems fake, because even I was able to see it is written in bad English …and English is not even my first language!

        There are at least five errors in the way it is written…and he is an assistant to an English professor?

        I smell a fake…

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      • @Arbiter. Blacks and their race-replacing supporters do love to advance the ‘black man has big dick’ hogwash every chance they get. Like it matters in an attraction sense. One of my best friends, a natural who knew it, always had a hot gf. Always had women chasing him and ex gfs that would pine over him. Now, you can’t walk around with your dick hanging out to show prospective lovers, you have to draw them in by other means. I know, for a fact, that he had a smaller dick than me. He was only 5’9 and from what I understand, he had a dick that was ‘proportional. If dick size is their biggest (heh) selling point, they’ll never realize what really makes the world go ’round.

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      • Hardcore porn (penetration, cum shots) needs to be taken down in conjunction with a a mass awakening to eliminate the demand. I’m not suggesting banning nudity, sexual dancing, etc. Just the actual visual porn. The porn experiment has clearly been a failure, and is endangering the public health and welfare. We have the technology to remove it. It took several years, but the public shaming ads about tobacco have been effective. Require 21 years of age to watch hardcore porno, and punish anyone that allows hardcore porno the go to underage the same way you punish those who allow under 21 or under 18/19 to access alcohol/tobacco. Require that any hardcore porno carry a 30 second long disclaimer:

        “GOVERNMENT HEALTH WARNING: Watching pornography causes depression, suicidal thoughts, erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, and greater difficulty enjoying sex. Recreating the sex acts depicted will result in unwanted pregnancies, sexually transmitted diseases, cancer and DEATH. Quitting watching pornography now will result in immediate benefits.”

        The warning should be read aloud vocally, and accompanied with images of depressed fat losers. Any porn sites that operate in the United States should pay fees to have billboards, radio and TV ads, and other media plastered everywhere to discourage the viewing of porno similar to the anti-tobacco ads. Just keep pushing that it causes mental illness, because it does. After you’ve gained enough momentum, go ahead and just block the porno through agreements with Verizon, Time Warner, etc.

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      • @ Arbiter,
        “But I digress. U.S. Blacks, despite being only 12 percent of the U.S. population, make up more than 40 percent of the buyers or porn.”

        -that is interesting, i read in my studies that more white men consume porn, especially black men/white women cuckold genre porn than any other group. I’m not quite sure why that is.

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      • um….WHO (world health org) gives longer condoms out in Africa. I went alpha (aka white man) in Zimbabwe an Xmas ago and the chick brought a Durex to my room after her new year’s party that I blew off. Can personally verify it was bigger and a good bit thicker than US versions, and I was thankful for that.
        In asia, they give smaller ones. The African norm is +1″, Asian -1″ compared to baseline white

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      • Yo, Canuck. Get your schnozzle checked. Watson worked as an English lecturer in Community College himself before migrating into porn (as detailed elsewhere on his blog and confirmed elsewhere by third parties in the porn industry.) I’ve worked as a university English prof too, and that’s exactly the sort of email researchers send to non-academics when they are seeking access to privileged data – warm, placating, informal and non-academic.

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  6. Makes sense. China and India have a lot of people. Can’t support that with low T.

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  7. The difference is in the androgen receptors. Blacks have more and/or more sensitive androgen receptors and asians less. Thats why blacks get bigger just by a whiff of testosterone. And lots of testosterone doesn’t help an asian if there’s little receptors on which to work on.

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  8. We really don’t know that much about athleticism of people who aren’t Europeans yet. Most of the world is still dealing with poverty, so it’ll be 50 years until we know what other groups can do athletically. They’re getting bombed, dealing with Ebola, living off nothing but rice, etc. The ones living in 1st world countries are still in the single digit percentage of their population, or overworked nations that have very little youth sports culture like Japan.

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    • Huh?

      Have you never watched sports or the Olympic games???

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      • Yes. Do you realize what percentage of each country’s population has access to youth sports? In a place like Africa, India, or China is less than 5%.

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 1:47 pm braveagnosticg

        In Japan what about mangas like Slam Dunk or Captain Tsubasa ?

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 2:06 pm braveagnosticg

        Taylor? you still don’t answer my question,how does my point make you feel? are you ashamed? those sport mangas sold in Japan like hot bread and in real life helped to increase the popularity of basketball or soccer there. I don’t know what you mean when you say they don’t have sports culture

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      • @braveagnosticg

        Why would I be ashamed? Stop thinking emotionally like a woman, and try to stop being so defensive as if this is some psychological attack on you.

        Japanese and East Asians in general have an anime and video game culture. They’re geared towards those things probably because they’re more passive, artistic, childlike and live in dense areas.

        I’ve never heard of Slam Dunk or Captain Tsubasa, and I’ve never read an anime book. I’m sure a place like Japan has an increasing sports culture, as we see from the MLB players they send over. But it’s development is very recent.

        Concepts like teenage angst and youth sports is a very modern phenomena. It’s a luxury of living in a place like America or Canada, where our kids youth is a culture of fun and relatively few worries. Most other countries have to resort to government funded youth programs, where they’re placing all their bets on a handful of prospects, limited to their narrow selection of sports.

        I’m not sure why you guys are so angry about this. It’s a fact that only a very small percentage of the global youth are exposed to a youth sports culture. It doesn’t denigrate what we’ve accomplished, but we really don’t know as much about their potential as we know about whites. We also have a pretty good idea about American blacks, but we don’t yet know about Africa’s variety of athletic capabilities. I though this blog had more men on it.

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      • Tailor you are aware that in China they will take kids that show raw talent and then train them for a decade in world class facilities only available to the children of wealthy parents in the US.

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 9:07 pm braveagnosticg

        Look Taylor, actually you are talking with a bisexual Young man, so I hope that tell you something 🙂
        This is the Opening theme of Slam Dunk the anime, the fact that is a foreign versión (in Spanish) and has many views tell you about its popularity, just read their Wikipedia, i doubt your words = P

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 9:17 pm braveagnosticg

        Taylor in fact my favorite anime is Sailor Moon and some people told me i should like more “manly” animes like Dragon Ball and Naruto, but i didn’t care 🙂 the Sailor heroines had an appeal i couldn’t explain

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 8:51 am Hammer of Love

        ” you are talking with a bisexual Young man, ”

        There are no bisexual men, only gay dudes in denial.

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      • Troof! (don’t ask me how I know, bro…)

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    • They’re getting bombed, dealing with Ebola, living off nothing but rice

      This is the worldview you can expect from an American who knows nothing about the world except what he sees on his teevee. Bombs! Ebola! Terrorists! “Pro-Russian” rebels! And that picture in the school textbook where Asians crouch down in rice fields with cone hats on their heads.

      I’ll just mention a few places you can look up that don’t fit your limited view: Amman. Abu Dhabi. Isfahan. Bangalore. Singapore. Be careful, your head could explode if you fill it with information that isn’t cabled out by the New York Times and the White House.

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      • I’ve been to every country I’ve listed multiple times and lived in each place (other than Africa) for 2+ years. They’re complete shitholes, and they don’t play sports. Just look up their GDP per capita PPP or their median income or their internet penetration or their access to water. I’m not some kid.

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  9. Just a theory, but the brothaz that I hung out with ALL didn’t have shit in their refrigerators like the white kids had. White kids get more than enough food in the frig and most of it “junk-feed,” whereas the black dudes I hung out with all didn’t hardly have a thing in the frig, except for Kool-aid, water, eggs, and with white bread and six boxes of different cereal on the top of the frig. I’m being serious here. Not knocking them. They just ate what appeared to be on average below-base-calarie-intake diets and all of them were ripped. We didn’t have weight gyms back in the day, so the only thing making them ripped was genes and diet. We did the same exercising every day and I was only slim but not ripped. Funny, kids know differences, even if our parents tell us to ignore them.

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    • Not representative. Africans living in the U.S. are the most obese group in the West. Probably the most obese group in the world, aside from mini groups on some Pacific islands. They eat crap, as those with a low IQ are wont to do.

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    • Cannot resist this discussion.

      Here is my theory on Black Atheletics.

      Field Work. It’s actually good for you. Fresh air, sunshine plenty of exercise. I suspect the diet was good. Most blacks had to grow their own food in gardens and side fields. Just like any European peasant had to.
      It’s also season. So that during certain periods of the year you can rest up recover from injury and rest. The Sugar islands were a killer, however Tobacco and cotton farming were much less of a strain. Again these two crops were seasonal rather than (like Sugar) a continuous grinder.
      Blacks like to complain about the humiliation of slavery in the US and the 13 Colonies but it wasn’t that different from the life of any peasant in Europe. Probably a great deal better if diet and weather are factored in. The eugenic factor in selection doesn’t really make sense. Black proximity to wealthy and benevolent whites is the main factor in the Afro-American sport success story.

      Europeans who were agricultural workers were subject to very similar selection pressures (see the German soccer team) and invented many sports once the industrial process generated a dysgenic factory-hominid as a way to recreate the agricultural idyll they were becoming alienated from.

      I’m not arguing a Lysenko inheritance here but a genetic-cultural intersection that was more or less unique to the white/black dynamic of the US.

      Generally big aggressive slaves in history are targeted for destruction by Helot Hunters. The “slave” in the US was treated very differently.

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  10. Yeah the T-levels don’t mean much if you don’t have the receptors for them

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    • i think you have receptors in different places such as some for muscles some for you voice, for facial hair, in the brain, etc

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  11. on August 18, 2014 at 1:15 pm Hammer of Love

    I’m not sure about the Black men are more ripped theory. The African continent has a myriad of different body types and physiques, which one of them is representative of ” BLACK MEN ” . Your basing your observation on the black male specimens in the United States, which skews your conclusion. The reason could easily be cultural, as most black boys are inclined/ taught to engage in sports, from an early age. Basketball being the most obvious example.

    White boys, on the other hand, are pushed towards sedimentary intellectual pursuits by their parents.

    Another factor could be a result of selective breeding during the slavery period.

    As a side note, here’s a video about Norwegian man, who seem to have a genetic predisposition for large muscle size and strength.

    http://www.vice.com/Fringes/nest-of-giants

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    • White boys, on the other hand, are pushed towards sedimentary intellectual pursuits by their parents.

      Geology? Pottery? Wine filtration?

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    • No shit Hammer, are you European?

      I think a large part of the confusion is White people in the U.S are much more provincial in their world view and don’t realize (or choose not to) that Africa is a HUGE and diverse continent in its own right.

      Articles like this one just feed their ignorance.

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 1:46 pm Hammer of Love

        ” No shit Hammer, are you European? ”

        Yes, I was born there. Although, not in the now ” pussified ” western portion.

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      • Yes, I was born there. Although, not in the now ” pussified ” western portion.

        Yes, East Europeans are so superior. What with keeping millions of Gypsies and 90 percent of world Jewry around for decades, long before Hollywood’s brainwashing. And destroying European nature in the largest environmental catastrophe in world history, communism, that was a clever move.

        It seems every time East Europeans come online, the only thing they have to brag about is that West Europeans have mass immigration and they don’t. Meanwhile they were living under communism for decades. The Left already had them under control. The West was not so thoroughly controlled, and that is why we got decades of TV propaganda that eventually, recently, has resulted in mass immigration to control us. If the same thing had happened in Eastern Europe, the people there would be worshiping African immigrants by now. Most of Eastern Europe, by the way, is under the globalist thumb by now. The biggest media owner in Poland was a Jewess coming over from the U.S. to buy up the media on the cheap, and from what I hear from Poles these media changed noticeably, and the people who listened to them changed too. And today there are Syrian immigrants in Hungary – the shape of things to come. So let’s once and for all accept the fact that no people, anywhere in the world, is immune to destructive propaganda.

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 2:33 pm Hammer of Love

        ” So let’s once and for all accept the fact that no people, anywhere in the world, is immune to destructive propaganda. ”

        Arbiter, I dont get the point of your tirade. Of course know one is immune to the J E W S attacks, when they take over media, and the educational systems, they are doing they’re damnedest to destroy Eastern European countries. I have nothing but respect fro my Western European cousins, which is why it fills me with great sadness to see what has happened to their nations. When I said pussified, I meant by external forces, not anything inherent in them.

        Yes, we were controlled by the Communists for a long time, however, we were never liberal in the western sense. This is obvious, as the east is still almost completely White European.

        I just dont see the Western White Men, taking up arms and fighting back the tide, due to his current state of being “PUSSIFIED”. I hope I’m wrong.

        Look how quickly, the common Slavic men of eastern Ukraine formed themselves into a fighting force and successfully fought back against a superior force. Like I said, I just don’t see Americans, British, or the others in the West doing that. I think the White Men’s hope lies in the east.

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 3:03 pm Joachim Peiper

        The difference Arbiter, is that the West became brain washed and weakened under its stealth form of Communism and the East has begun to wake up and were never pussified in the first place.

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 5:47 pm Carlos Danger

        Eastern Germanic peoples and West Germanic people are genetically nearly identical and no doubt were identical 2000 years ago. This is precisely where I lose patience with the Nazis.

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 5:51 pm Carlos Danger

        I’m proud of what the Ukrainians have done to defend their nation. This will create a sense of unity that previously didn’t exist.

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      • “Eastern Germanic peoples and West Germanic people are genetically nearly identical and no doubt were identical 2000 years ago. This is precisely where I lose patience with the Nazis.”

        There is more to this: some slavs and balts are actually Germans now.
        Here is the list of slavic tribes,ancestors of germans:

        Lugii (Slavo-Germanic)
        Mazurs, ancestors of Poles and Germans
        Milceni, ancestors of Germans and Sorbs
        Obotrites, ancestors of Germans
        Polabians, ancestors of Germans
        Pomeranians, ancestors of Germans, Kashubians, and Slovincians
        Pyritzans, ancestors of Germans
        Rani, ancestors of Germans
        Ślężanie, ancestors of Poles and Silesian Germans

        Prussians are balts as well.

        And germans knew it throughout the history and were proud of their heritage. For example Henrick Schlimann called himself a Wend (generic name for Western slavs) not a German.

        Than millions of Germans lived everywhere in Europe as far as Siberia.The 1914 census puts the number of Germans living in Russian Empire at 2,5 millions.

        And I dont want to start on southern europe and scandinavia,plenty of interesting dynamics there as well.

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      • “Look how quickly, the common Slavic men of eastern Ukraine formed themselves into a fighting force and successfully fought back against a superior force.’

        I can’t believe I am reading this.You mean the trained since 2005 by Russia separatists? Whose leadership happen to be all russian? Paid by Russia, fed by Russia and supplied by Russia? “United”? Are you following the news at all?They are all split into different mobs, controlling different parts of cities, stealing cars, robbing businesses and even kidnapping people.

        When Girkin (russian leader of the terrorirsts) was whining all over the internet that they could not find any local men willing to fight on their side (why would they)? The fighting bulk of separatist in Eastern Ukraine are russian mercenaries,chechens and some whores fighting for money,usually alcoholics and drug addicts..

        Or do you refer to the Ukrainian nation, who despite being stabbed in the back by Russia in the difficult times, despite having its armed forces completely dismantled by previous pro russian government (the previous minister of defense was a russian citizen,this says it all) have found strength to fight back with cowards hiding behind civilians, managed to expell them from 2/3 of the occupied area?

        I am a russian speaker from Eastern Ukraine by the way.You have no fucking idea what you are talking about, not even remotely.

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 1:37 pm Hammer of Love

        ” I am a russian speaker from Eastern Ukraine by the way.You have no fucking idea what you are talking about, not even remotely.”

        I’ll be glad to discuss the Ukrainian situation with you at length. We can also discuss what the Ukrainian Patriots ( Banderites ) did do my people during, and after World War 2, simple things like torture, rape, murder, forced transfers, theft of land. In the mean time, enjoy this simple video.

        By the way you have an amazing grasp of American English, for being a Russian speaking East Ukrainian.

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      • “We can also discuss what the Ukrainian Patriots”

        Ukrainian patriots did what Eastern Ukrainian and Russian patriots did some 20 years before them-fought the communist plague.

        Now, don’t bring this standard putinist crap here.Tell it to your crazy grandmother. I am more interested in current events when russians are destroying the infrastructure and killing people of my country.

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      • on August 21, 2014 at 9:28 pm Hammer of Love

        “We can also discuss what the Ukrainian Patriots”

        Ukrainian patriots did what Eastern Ukrainian and Russian patriots did some 20 years before them-fought the communist plague. ”

        Your grasp of History is weak my friend. As I’m not even Russian. Try again with your deflection.

        Also, please tell me who currently runs your government, because they are definitely not true Ukrainians , or Christians for that matter. Your people are be used as pawns, which I find very sad, since they are my Slavic cousins.

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    • Not as many blacks in Africa seem to be ripped as in the USA and one theory I heard is that it is because of slavery; only the best specimen – those who were strong, big and ripped and could produce a lot of work – were brought to America.

      Kind of like Silicone valley has a higher concentration of high IQ whites and Asian than most other places, the USA today has a higher concentration of ripped blacks : the descendants of slaves.

      That theory also says that the weak ones died in the fields as their owner worked them too hard, which in turn made the percentage of ripped one higher than in other places: survival of the fittest ” accelerated” if you like

      It makes sense.

      I don’t remember where I heard or read about that.

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      • on August 18, 2014 at 1:48 pm Hammer of Love

        ” their owner worked them too hard ”

        I dont think they would purposely destroy an investment, which they paid good money for. Scale pack your tv viewing. “The Color Purple ” is not a historical document.

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      • Ok my choice of words was not the best…

        Nothing I know or believe in I learned in Hollywood movies. You don’t know me. I read a lot, more than most people, I used to read 16 hours a day, and I have watched probably a hundred times more documentaries than Hollywood movies

        I’ve never watched the color purple nor the series called Roots nor any of the movies with Sidney Poitier as I know those are full of lies as pretty much everything that comes from Hollywood or is made for tv is.

        of course I know an owner did not want to lose an investment by working his slave to death, but on the other hand it is not like the slaves were unionized and were getting a coffee break every 45 minutes or like they had access to Obamacare and emergency rooms in every village.

        I know most slave owners were not cruel tyrants as Hollywood wants us to believe, but slaves were not pampered either. Life was hard for them.

        back then it was not unusual for people – both regular people and slaves – to work 16 hours a day and the weaker slaves would get “eliminated” either trough injury, disease or death.

        An injured or sick slave was less attractive to women than a strong healthy slave.

        The healthy slave was more likely to have sex with women than the weak one and thus transmit his good genes.

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      • And as others have said the weaker ones died on the boat.

        I may have not phrased it correctly but basically I was right……as I usually am.

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      • American blacks were the recipients of a controlled breeding program. Eugenics in action – the fact that the weak and sickly died off during the trip/worked to death in fields only added to the genetic strength of the group.

        The athleticism of slave descendents is astonishing considering their overall % of the population.

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      • That theory also says that the weak ones died in the fields as their owner worked them too hard,
        ———————————————————————————————-

        That theory is only true for the Carribean and Brazil. The deaths were mostly on the boats because it was such an unhealthy environment; 60 days chained to the bottom of a boat? blood, feces, vomit, rat dropping…

        And dont you dare look like you sick. Dont be coughin or havin no strange lesion on your skin… you will be shark food before you are allowed to infect the rest of the expensive cargo.

        *I caint take no chances on losing my money”

        *toss him*

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      • Read the history of slavery. Slavery was a late to come to North America. The bigger and earlier slave trade was to the Carribbean for the sugar plantations. There, the slaves were not allowed to breed. Women and children were of no use on the sugar plantations for the owners, who worked the men to death and just imported more. In the USA, the work was much easier, and they bred the slaves to sell.

        At least that’s what I read.

        As for Blacks, just avoid them. They are too stupid and make everything around them debased. Not to say there are not good black people, but, the law of mass action, like the law of gravity, just overwhelms everything sooner or later. The fact that black people only live decent lives when they receive help or benefits from white society pretty much sums it up. For example, those rich black athletes would be playing games in the jungle if not for white society. They seem to sense it, since they mostly marry white.

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      • Steven answered 8 years ago
        https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070109080853AAPaNSc

        “It will be difficult answering this question without sounding racist but I will try.

        Jimmy the Greek was a sport caster in the 70’s. His hypothesis on why black people so dominate the sporting world is that they were bred to be physically superior. Jimmy the Greek contends that it is basically economic of owning slaves way back in the days before the American civil war. If a slave owner has 10 slaves and he wants to increase the value of his net worth, he will have to increase the number of slaves he has. It’s a fact that women with wider hips will have a easier time giving birth and easier births also fives the woman a better chance to survive multiple births. Since the slave are merely “properties”, the slave owners will want the biggest and strongest slaves to mate with the widest hipped slave female to give birth to healthy strong slave babies to increase his wealth; why would he want to have sickly slaves to not do work and has to spend money to care for the sick slave? Small, sickly slaves were probably not allowed to mate as dind’t the small hipped female slaves.

        As generations of selective breeding went on, the male slaves got bigger and stronger and the female slaves, while also got bigger and stronger, received wider hips. The small, sickly slaves and the narrow hipped female slaves were probably bred out of the gene pool with few exceptions.

        Notice I said this is Jimmy the Greek’s “hypothesis”? Hypothesis is something not proven; theory is something that was proven and can be repeated. Unfortunately, this is also a theory. With out sounding demeaning and disrespectful, selective breeding is also practiced on animals to produce the desired physical attributes.”

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      • The theory of the ripped Black guy applies mostly to former and future prison population you guys watch on ESPN and ‘Cops’.
        If all you did all day was play basketball, run from da po-leece and live on half a sandwich you shoplift from some corner market, you’d be pretty ripped, too.
        As soon as you send that Black guy to a decent school, put some glasses on him, maybe let him live in a suburban house with twice-weekly recycling trucks and neighborhood associations making sure he cuts his grass to the proscribed length, he’ll be jus’ as pudgy and doughy as William Hughes and Morris Finkelstinkenburger, his neighbors.

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      • factually inaccurate. You know that up to even the late 1800s, survival as a proposition for a new immigrant was at best a 50/50 endeavor? The disease profile here is totally different from the Old World.

        Disease, not chimp power, is why colonization of Africa mostly failed. It’s why the injuns died. In the early days, if you survived the Crossing, the LD50 on the Americas was like 1.5 years.

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      • JimmytheGreek’s head was in the right place but I think he was a bit off. Black’s athleticism was probably more due to the conditions in Africa, which is what made them good slaves in the first place. Hunting styles that produced different muscle types: persistence hunting in East Africa made blacks descended from their better distance runners, something in west africa probably selected for fast twitch muscle fibers hence thebetter sprinters and jumpers.

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    • Sport is the indulgence of the rich white. You wouldn’t have heard a peep about athletes without the industrial revolution and the invention of leisure.

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  12. Actually that was my comment (but somehow it got attributed to the prolific anonymous) after I erased ‘race is a social construct’. No Lady-boys where I live but plenty of men dressed as if they are extras in Lawrence of Arabia. The women are definitely mammals as they are land-whales and far from the sea.

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  13. Iranians and Indians?

    Must be the kebabs and curry.

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    • Hardly. The Bovine Growth Hormone abundantly found in Indian food is quite feminizing. Maybe that’s why those dudes aren’t as ripped as they could be. They sure are hairy, I’ll give them that.

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  14. on August 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm Hammer of Love

    ” towards sedimentary intellectual ”

    I meant Sedentary , by the way.

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  15. > Indo-Aryan (i.e. Iranians and Indians!)

    1)
    “Indo” refers to only one 1 country: India, just like “Sino” refers to only 1 country: China. Iranians are definitely not Aryan, since even in pre-Muslim days, they believed the opposite of what Aryans considered as gods…some of the Zoraoster gods were specifically demons in the Aryan religion (aka Hinduism). Ancient Iranians also never ever used the swastika or laltika, which only Aryans do. (laltika is the red-dot seen on foreheads of married women and temple priests. The swastika is the cross seen on every temple, house and festival in India from ancient times to today).

    And not all Indians are Aryan. Only about half are (they are the Sanskrit derived speaking peoples). The other half are Dravidian (Tamil based) and are an entirely difference race of people. And there are about 100 million or so Asians and Aboriginal (who look African) people in India so, T-Levels and “Indians” cannot be generalized.

    2)
    Africans are all over the place genetically. A Tunisian is not the same as Congo pygmy is not the same as a Liberian is not the same as a Egyptian. T-levels and Africans can not generalized. However, the co-relation exists a Nigerian or Rwandan is certainly going to be more T than a Egyptian).

    USA-Africans tend to have elevated T-levels because the slaves were specifically bought and bred to be the strong muscular oxen types (the weak ones perished or were simply not acquired). This is a USA-only (slave and slave-descendent only) phenomenon though.

    3)
    Europeans and T-levels again cannot be generalized. There is no greater co-relation between say a Finn-Swaede or a Greek, in terms of T-levels, compared to say a African-Egyptian. The variation in Europe is extremely varied, no one in Europe talks about all of Europe as a “race” of people, there “race” means and has always meant, the same as nationality.

    4)
    East Asians (or Orientals as they have been known throughout history):

    Who cares about the T-levels of these ant-like aliens ? ..they all look alike anyway.

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    • on August 18, 2014 at 1:37 pm The Spirit Within

      COTW

      Post more, please.

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    • Africans are all over the place genetically.

      True. Look at the map in this article:

      http://www.returnofkings.com/8235/the-list-of-best-and-worst-countries-for-an-american-man-to-find-a-wife

      It appears that black Americans were disproporationately drawn from the Western Sahel region (the Mandingo phenomenon), since black Africans in the rest of the continent do not appear to have the over-the-top masculinity as Western Sahelians or black Americans.

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      • But didn’t the stronger tribes enslave the weaker tribes?

        If so, maybe you were sold the sorriest, weakest, dumbest Africans?

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      • But didn’t the stronger tribes enslave the weaker tribes?

        If so, maybe you were sold the sorriest, weakest, dumbest Africans?

        I do suspect that the African kingdoms sold all their dumbasses, lowlives, and criminals to the slave traders.

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    • on August 18, 2014 at 1:51 pm Joachim Peiper

      Iran means “Land of the Aryans.”

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    • Iranians are definitely not Aryan, since even in pre-Muslim days, they believed the opposite of what Aryans considered as gods

      Wow, retard comment on the week. So your “proof” is what gods someone worships? Idiot. Persians are a mix of Whites and the conquered peoples who lived there before the White conquest. Same as Arabs and part of the Indian population. Iran means land of the Aryan.

      They “didn’t use the swastika”? Actually there are swastikas in old buildings in Iran, but no matter: you are clearly just basing your opinions on whatever you want to believe. Obviously a mix of amateur racialist and neocon lover.

      And you are not White, I bet, so you will be biased and prone to base your opinions on whatever scraps you can find that support what you want to believe. “minatr”? What kind of swarthy are we talking about here? Come on, let’s hear it.

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      • There is a very high probability that the African chieftains and Arab traders who sold slaves to various Europeans let them have the ‘undesirables’ first.
        Troublemakers, criminals, rivals of some type or another.
        Ethiopians – who don’t even look ‘African’ , except for the very dark skin – hardly ever showed up on slave markets, too war-like for the Arabs and too hard to get to for the others.
        The most aggressive (high T?) of all Africans, the Zulu, whom all the other tribes were deathly afraid of, also were never slaves, because by the time their lands were colonized, slavery had already been abolished pretty much everywhere.

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      • somebody musta tripped Underbiters ‘sperg nerd radar!!

        gooks in the wire Underbiter!!!!! throw on your Green Lantern t-shirt and go get em’!!!

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  16. THaT WaS a SuPeR ArTiCle. By InDiAnS dId YoU MeAn FoReHeAd DoT oR EaGlE fEaThErs ThOuGh?

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  17. Given standard population migration theories, the ranking makes no sense whatsoever. If accurate, environmental pressure upon natural selection of testosterone levels is VERY STRONG. So strong, a few hundred generations can change a rank from #2 (east asian) to dead last (native american).

    That, I believe, is good news for those of us who think careful breeding might improve our progeny.

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  18. If it’s the case that black people tend towards larger muscles than do whites and east Asians, then why aren’t any world records in weight lifting held by blacks? Record holders in Olympic weightlifting have been exclusively Slavic, Arabic and Central and East Asian.

    [CH: first, i’m not ready to say blacks have all-round larger muscles. more ripped, yes. i will say that in an untrained state younger blacks do appear to be both leaner and more muscular than other races. this goes for the women as well.
    second, to your question. i can think of a few reasons why, if blacks are naturally stronger, they might not dominate strongman events.
    1. longer limbs reduce mechanical advantage in olympic lifts.
    2. blacks aren’t interested.
    3. blacks lack the intense discipline and long-term focus needed to succeed in weightlifting competitions.
    4. blacks are more prone to injuries that are specific to powerlifting events.
    5. blacks who are strong enough to dominate olympic weightlifting choose instead to utilize their talents more remuneratively, in football etc.

    that’s just off the top of my head. i’m sure others could come up with different plausible reasons.]

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    • not a lot of black swimmers lol…

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    • it’s because physical muscle volume does not correlate very well with 1 rep lifting power. Physiology does not work in ways you would expect. Just look at the physiques of powerlifters vs. bodybuilders. Smaller muscles that lift more weight.

      Also consider selection of black slaves in early America for the most impressive looking physiques. It happened.

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    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlifting_at_the_2014_Commonwealth_Games

      theres not alot of money in the sport and few people compete in them but looking at these results, they do have potential.

      http://www.theshadowleague.com/articles/newsflash-black-men-have-taken-over-bodybuilding
      they are taking over bodybuilding now and even broke Arnulds records

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    • @ Mr. Heartiste
      “[CH: first, i’m not ready to say blacks have all-round larger muscles. more ripped, yes. i will say that in an untrained state younger blacks do appear to be both leaner and more muscular than other races. this goes for the women as well.”

      -Maybe you can elaborate a bit, but how can Black women be as obese as you say in your post, but yet be leaner and more muscular at the same time?

      [CH: i clearly stated in the post that these racial differences are most apparent in younger people, before they have gotten fat. many black women are thin through high school and early 20s, when afterward it seems the majority of them decide to do a michelin man impression.]

      @ Mr. Heartiste
      “3. blacks lack the intense discipline and long-term focus needed to succeed in weightlifting competitions.”

      -Hmmm, yes it does take incredible self-discipline to be a body builder. You really have to push yourself and also there is a balance to your lifestyle that you must maintain. I dated a man, African-American, and he was a body builder. He was a very well-built, strong guy. He was so big that I couldn’t even fit my arms around his chest area. I would have to go down to his waist because he was so muscular in his upper body, yet his waist was so small. He was over 6 feet any way and I’m only 5 feet, so it was easier to go down to his waist any way. I was all wrapped up whenever he hugged me. Really nice guy. His muscular body really wasn’t what attracted me to him though. His discipline in the gym wasn’t even tantamount to the discipline he exhibited in his academic studies, he was a computer science major. Any way, he actually competed in a regional competition for body builders and won. There was a cash prize involved too, which he put to good use. So, sometimes body building can be a remunerative as well.

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    • See my later comment that details my experience in wrestling very strong looking blacks.

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  19. on August 18, 2014 at 1:30 pm gunslingergregi

    they used to wonder why I didn’t have to take a break on two a day football camp and always went 150 percent

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  20. on August 18, 2014 at 1:34 pm gunslingergregi

    its a fix they don’t want tall white boys playing sports they want them being ceo’s

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  21. Science has proved that blacks have the smallest dicks

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  22. It could be the ghost of Jimmy The Greek… Selective breeding. American blacks do seem bigger than their African cousins.

    Perhaps our high calorie diet can account for this or was Jimmy right in that they bred the biggest black men with the biggest women which in turn produced The Warren Sapps and Michael Strahans, Specimens that you don’t typically see on the Dark Continent.

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    • you and CH: look up epigenetics. This probably explains most of the variance. W. African blacks have genetics for massive size and explosiveness; these genes are frequently latent due to famine

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  23. American blacks had artificial selection due to slavery. A skinny, nerdy African 400 years ago was not a good investment for slave labor.

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  24. on August 18, 2014 at 1:39 pm gunslingergregi

    or inantry

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  25. on August 18, 2014 at 1:41 pm Hammer of Love

    Let me refute some obviously erroneous points.

    Point 1:
    “Ancient Iranians also never ever used the swastika or laltika, which only Aryans do ”

    The oldest record of the swastika comes from artifacts unearthed in modern-day Iran dating back 7,000 years.

    Point 2:
    ” Iranians are definitely not Aryan, ”

    Aryan, former name given to a people who were said to speak an archaic Indo-European language and who were thought to have settled in prehistoric times in ancient Iran and the northern Indian subcontinent.

    Research is a good thing. Dont be afraid of it.

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  26. on August 18, 2014 at 2:04 pm Honest Signals

    Good post on the racial differences by testosterone. A while back, I also wanted to see if there were any studies on the differences in attractiveness by race.

    The results from these studies will be placed below. Mind you, I won’t post the links since the comment will then get eaten up by spam. I’ll just cite the name of the scientist and year so you can google search for them.

    Study 1: Lewis MB (2010) Who is the fairest of them all? Race, attractiveness and skin color sexual dimorphism

    “Previous research has suggested that perceived attractiveness and personality are affected by the race such that White faces are more attractive but less masculine than Black faces. Such studies, however, have been based on very small stimulus sets. The current study investigated perceived attractiveness and personality for 600 Black, White and mixed-race faces. Many of the investigated personality traits were correlated with race when rated by White participants. Attractiveness specifically was greater for Black male faces than White male faces and among mixed-race faces. Blackness correlated with increased attractiveness. A reverse pattern was found for female faces with Whiteness being associated with attractiveness. The results are discussed in terms of the sexual dimorphism demonstrated in skin color.”

    STUDY 2: Saul Feinman & George W. Gill (1977) Sex Differences in Physical Attractiveness Preferences

    “Males indicated somewhat greater preference for lighter female coloration, while females indicated somewhat greater preference for darker male coloration. These results were discussed in terms of the “kernel of truth” hypothesis of stereotyping, and the possible relationship to earlier research on semantic meanings of color and gender words. Special attention was paid to the tremendous aversion of both sexes to redheads, and to the possible implications of the study for understanding the predominance of black male/white female couplings in black-white interracial marriage in contemporary America.”

    Study 3: Frost, P. 1994b. “Preference for darker faces in photographs at different phases of the menstrual cycle: Preliminary assessment of evidence for a hormonal relationship”, Perceptual and Motor Skills 79: 507-514.

    “This sex difference apparently had meaning for people in premodern societies. It may, therefore, have structured how humans evaluate skin color, at least for minor variations in complexion (Guthrie, 1970, pp. 279-280). One outcome of this theoretical model would be that men and women should evaluate skin color differently. In our ancestral environment, an individual with a dark, male coloration would have meant one thing to a man and another to a woman. The man might have seen a potential rival; the woman, a current or future mate.

    Some data point to such a behavioral sex difference. Feinman and Gill (1978) asked 549 male and 482 female white college students to indicate the complexions they liked and disliked in the opposite sex; see Table 1. Analysis showed significantly more preference by men for lighter female skin color and by women for darker male skin color. The contrast was more striking when subjects stated their dislikes.While 30% of the men disliked black complexion, only 10% of the women did so. Similarly, 82% of the women disliked the two lightest shades, while the corresponding proportion for men was 56%.”

    Many ask why, in this current SMP, many fair skinned women are starting to date dark complected guys all of a sudden. I think this has always been the case for women (at least viscerally) but they never had the chance to completely actualize their desires in the past. With diversity in full motion now, many women start to disassociate from their original tribes and welcome their new conquerors (read: War Brides) and disregard their own kinship for what tingles them instead.

    This has massive implications for what may become of America and Europe in the near future. I’d welcome any comments on this.

    [CH: i wouldn’t call it massive implications. at least not yet. all the available evidence is that white women are the most “racist” group because they have, according to survey data, the greatest aversion to dating outside their race. now of course survey data is one thing and real world choices are another. white female-black male pairings are indeed more common than the inverse (WM-BF) and also lower class (the data are clear on this: white women who go black are typically fatter and less educated than their white sisters who stay within the tribe).

    as for skin tone, i’ve read the same studies. yes, men of all races prefer lighter-skinned women (i haven’t seen studies that specifically examined whether women of all races prefer darker-skinned men, but i’ll assume it’s true). One thing we should note is that in all races, the men are already darker than their women on average. so there are plenty of intraracial options available to women who want to date darker-skinned men. two, sexually dimorphic preferences in skin hue are less an absolute quantity than a relative one. that is, white women may prefer slightly darker-hued men RELATIVE TO THEIR OWN HUE but that doesn’t necessarily translate into a preference for extremely dark skin that would not be found in a pre-international travel state of nature.]

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    • [CH: all the available evidence is that white women are the most “racist” group because they have, according to survey data, the greatest aversion to dating outside their race
      ———————————————————————————————-

      Are you serious? Are you really gonna try and pin the sin of racism on white women? Thats like saying female prison guards are somehow unjust because they have the greatest aversion to dating inmates.

      White men control ALL the wealth and means of production on planet Earth. It is they and they alone who assign VALUE to all other people and white women know this and support it because they benefit from it. Describing their sexual behavior as MOST racist is incorrect because they are only responding to the power dynamic of white supremacy maintained and refined by white men.

      A large part of the white mans fear and insecurity as expressed in the practice of racism is based on the possibility that without his stranglehold on the wealth and resources of the world, white women may not want him anymore.

      He would have a spot next to “Andy” in the museum.

      Shame on you for trying to throw the white woman under the bus.

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      • I have noticed there is a rather specific type of person who uses the rhetoric of “throwing x under the bus” for non-literal situations.

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      • Some VERY large percentages of the wealth and means of production on planet Earth are also held by Japanese and Chinese men.

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      • You are an idiot…he clearly wrote “racist” to denote that a preference for one’s own kind seems to be automatically considered the big R word by the media and other politically correct zombies who have not a single independent thought of their own. Oh and values, not the psycho babble sociological b.s. you’re talking about but rather real.monetary value was placed.on blacks , by other blacks and we just joined in…oh but don’t forget we ended that practice fairly quickly, some of those “evil” white men gave their lives for that..meanwhile the dark world are still dealing in the slave trade.

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      • White women, like all women, will prefer either an extremely confident, extroverted cad whose descendants will continue to spread her DNA, or a nurturing, stable partner to help her raise children, who will continue to pass on to the next generations her DNA.
        Whom she chooses will depend largely on which way her hormones are leading her.
        No woman really gives a shit about imaginary leftist beliefs like “the sin of racism” when shes happily fucking her optimal sexual partner, and participants in the sexual marketplace aren’t all that worried about one group or another’s hurt feelings.

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 4:13 pm Hammer of Love

        “the sin of racism” when shes happily fucking her optimal sexual partner, ”

        In a non-liberal fucked up society, a woman’s optimal partner, would be one that is the same race as her. Otherwise, there is a high probability, that her child would be considered an outcast, lowering his / her chances of mating within that society. Therefore, dramatically, lowering the woman’s chances of continuing her genetic line.

        Racial-mixing rarely works in the “real” world, of historical context. Our feminazi world is an aberration.

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    • I pretty much swipe right every time on Tinder, otherwise it would take too much time and I can always unmatch the fuglies later. Whenever a black girl matches, they message me first way more often than white girls. I don’t mean to match the black girls, so I just unmatch them when they message me. Black girls seem a lot more eager for white men than pop-culture make them out to be.

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      • @ la82dagame
        “I don’t mean to match the black girls, so I just unmatch them when they message me. Black girls seem a lot more eager for white men than pop-culture make them out to be.”

        Interesting. Most of the African-American women that I know prefer Black men. There was a study on the dating app “Are You Interested,” that showed that all women, except Black women responded to white men first. But Black women picked white men last on the dating app and picked Black men first. It was interesting that every group of women Asian Women, Hispanic women and white women preferred white men and picked them even above their own race, but Black women picked white men last out of all the groups of men.
        I personally try not to completely write people off based on skin color, but that’s just me. I mean, i definitely feel like I have a cultural bond with Black men and I guess all things being equal, I gravitate toward Black men, but I still think there are some nice white men, asian men and hispanic men. I wouldn’t just write off someone just based off of their skin color. I like to get to know them before I just judge them. Besides, I’ve known some nice white men. It’s been rare that I’ve encountered white men offline who are as rude as some of the posters on here, to be honest.

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      • Even white men who have different beliefs aren’t really that rude to me. One white guy who I got to know in college was very conservative, came from a well-to-do family, he was almost like one of the tea-party conservatives, yet aside from his ideological beliefs (which differed vastly from mine) he was very nice. He wasn’t hateful, I just avoided discussing politics with him. He just came from a very, tight-knit, closed background where he didn’t really have the chance to interact with people from different backgrounds & different cultures. Therefore, to me, some of his comments and beliefs were bizarre and “off.” But that was because my experience was vastly different from his. Although I went to the same college and actually went to a mostly white private school, I had been around lots of different cultures and being an African-American, I have an understanding of what it feels like to be considered “different,” so I didn’t have the same hesitation to interact with those who were different as he did.

        In fact, I think I might have been his only African-American friend. I was surprised when I brought in some food one day, west african food, and not only did he try some, but he ate a lot of it. I was proud of him for being open. Any way, he was sweet. He held doors open, pulled out chairs, hugged me every time he saw me, he was sweet. Just an ideological difference. I think probably this ideological difference that some white men have is part of the reason some Black women would pick white men last. But of course some black women just prefer their own race, like most people, including white men, do.

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      • Seems to me that most Black women stick to Black men simply because they’re conditioned to do so and are afraid to step out of their discomfort zone.
        Very much like Hispanic women, who go almost exclusively for Hispanic guys, even if the Hispanic guy is clearly trash and the non-Hispanic clearly better.
        This area has a very low percentage of Black people by US standards, but when you do see a Black girl with an non-Black guy, she’s usually pretty hot and he’s White.
        Can’t recall seeing an Oprah or a Whoopi with a non-Black guy, can’t recall seeing a Black girl with an Asian or Hispanic dude. Not even in CA, which is Ground Zero for otherwise rare racial combos.

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      • @ wolfie,

        “Seems to me that most Black women stick to Black men simply because they’re conditioned to do so and are afraid to step out of their discomfort zone.”

        -discomfort? How do you mean discomfort zone? Or did you mean to say comfort zone?

        I don’t know that I would say Black women are conditioned to stick with Black men. I think most Black women just gravitate toward Black men because we share a similar background, we in general have similar cultural experiences and just like white men tend to prefer white women, Black women prefer Black men too. Most people in any ethnic group prefer their own ethnic and or racial group.

        “can’t recall seeing a Black girl with an Asian or Hispanic dude. Not even in CA, which is Ground Zero for otherwise rare racial combos.”

        I do know some Black women who are into hispanic men, especially puerto ricans or cubans. The culture is somewhat similar to West African culture. African-Americans and Africans in general all come from backgrounds where dancing is a huge part of the culture. It is similar to a lot of hispanics, more so Hispanics with mixed-African origins. After all the Tango originated from African slaves in Argentina for example.

        As for Asian Men, I’ve heard in Hawaii, you’ll see a few Asian men/Black women couples. They are more prevalent there apparently.

        I also know some Black women who like Mediterranean white men. However, I think more Black women who might otherwise be open to white men are hesitant because there is such a historical and cultural difference between white men and black women, in general. Also there is a slight fear there as well, I believe.

        Me personally, my experience with white men again has not been bad though. I’ve had men who were white help me before. I’ll not soon forget one time when I was about to go to college and I was struggling with carrying a mini-fridge and I was about to drop it a guy got out of his car just to offer to help me load it the car. I appreciated that. He was white.

        I’ve also known nice Black men, Asian men and Hispanic men too. There are kind men in all races. I’m taken aback when I see the meanness that some of the white men exhibit on here. But just as there are kind men in all races, I know that there are mean ones too.

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 4:15 pm Hammer of Love

        ” I think most Black women just gravitate toward Black men because we share a similar background, ”

        Da be RACISS .

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    • on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 pm some tranny dude

      But CH, I thought it doesn’t matter what women find visually attractive.

      [CH: race is much more than looks. it’s essence.]

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 4:09 am some tranny dude

        Nice platitude.

        [CH: do you deny the races differ in temperament, personality, smarts, and behavior?]

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    • Just my experience but darkskinned ladies dig me.I am very fair.For what it’s worth.

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    • The same study that this guy is quoting.. I read about on dailymail. It said that when they tested MEN of all races they PICKED ASIAN WOMEN’s faces as being most attractive of female groups. So am I suppose to really buy this study accuracy?

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  27. I don’t even get the point of this other than reassurance to your Stormfront readers.

    [CH: think hard about this comment you just wrote. try to see where you made your category error.]

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    • Leftists hate discussions of facts, since such discussions always mow down socialist fantasies. And so you must resort to slurs like “RACISM!” like you are doing now. Good little boy.

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    • To you either we are stormfront “crazy racist supremacists” or we must agree that the white race is a cancer that should be eliminated as soon as possible and until this happens we whites should sit at the back of the bus and shut the hell up.

      Either you have been so brainwashed that you are not aware of what the white is being forced to go trough or you agree with with what is happening to the white race thus are an anti-white racist full of hatred.

      Either way there is something seriously wrong with you.

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      • I don’t even understand how you infer that from what I said.

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      • Calling white people who simply do not want to go trough race replacement and simply do not want to see their culture fade away “stormfront readers” is about the same as calling a father simply hugging his child a pedophile sex offender.

        A person saying that does it out of stupidity or malice.

        Either you do not understand what is happening to the white race because you have been brainwashed/are too dumb to know or you are happy it is happening thus a hater of the white race.

        Either you gave poison to your child because you had no idea it was not cough syrup ( ignorance/stupidity ) or you knew it was poison and wanted to kill him ( malice)

        There are no other possibilities.

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    • I don’t even get the point of this other than reassurance to your Stormfront readers.

      What is this “Stormfront” stuff? More attempts at Cathedral shaming language?

      Meh… the chateau already has enough of that.

      You fairy.

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  28. Rape Redefined by California Lawmakers:

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  29. testosterone is a funny hormone. You have to alter your T levels by a factor of 4x or even more before behavior changes become noticeable in either direction.

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  30. This is a great post. Excellence. 🙂 .

    Firstly, I am surprised at the order of races/testosterone levels. My guess would have been, Asian – Lowest, White – Medium, – Black – Highest.

    My theory was that Asian because they are smaller people must have lower T, Testosterone also correlates to agression, yes? Statistically, blacks are more aggressive than Asians and whites.

    According to this new data, here is what I am thinking.

    1. Testosterone must have a big impact on intelligence. (Mathematical ability, Science. etc), these seem to be strengths of East Asians.
    2. White Europeans are generally less aggressive. Could this correlate to lower T levels? Yes there are wars, but generally our countries are much more civilized. Europe is the father of civilization.
    3. Africans would need to be physically stronger as they from a land that they could easily be prey. Humans are adaptable to their environment over time, Africans had much more need to be faster, and stronger. And maybe less need for mathematical skills.

    Over all opinion. Could it be that testosterone either shapes in to physical strength, or intelligence/mental strength adaptively, according to one’s race and where they hail from? (What challenges they were likely to face, what would help them to survive.)

    Sorry, this might seem not coherent. The testosterone levels among are so surprising that am typing as I think.

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    • “My theory was that Asian because they are smaller people must have lower T, Testosterone also correlates to agression, yes? ”

      You’ve never seen a pissed off Jap guy get medieval on a faulty panties vending machine.

      Scary stuff.

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      • Faulty panties vending machine?
        I just googled that. That is very bizarre.

        This might be stupid question, but why would a man even want used female underwear?

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    • on August 18, 2014 at 6:09 pm Hammer of Love

      ” Europe is the father of civilization. ”

      Actually, Sumeria is the widely accepted cradle of civilization.

      “Africans would need to be physically stronger as they from a land that they could easily be prey. ”

      Europeans had to survive in the lands of the mammoths and saber tooth tigers, among other things.

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      • Yes, but mammoths and saber tooth tigers were very time ago. But in Africa there are still people in tribes living a very different way of life, with immediate danger from lions, and other dangerous animals.

        “Actually, Sumeria is the widely accepted cradle of civilization.”

        That is interesting, I did not know. I will read about it.

        I realize my thoughts on it do not make sense, because I noticed it says that Middle Easterns have one of the lowest T. And they tend to be aggressive if their Religion is anything to go by.

        I thought that testosterone corelates to higher agression, because you know when men take steroids to be strong, they often become very agressive too. There was a man in the gym I was attending, who was huge and everybody knew he was taking steroids. And sometimes he would just snap, he threw a rock ash tray at another men’s head because of a comment.

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 2:05 pm Hammer of Love

        ” Yes, but mammoths and saber tooth tigers were very time ago. But in Africa there are still people in tribes living a very different way of life, with immediate danger from lions, and other dangerous animals. ”

        Not sure about this, Europeans suffered through the immediate dangers of 2 World Wars, and communism. In addition,Mammoths lived from the Pliocene epoch (from around 5 million years ago) into the Holocene at about 4,500 years ago. Not a very long time ago, in a relative sense.

        Anyhow, we are discussing inherent genetic difference. I doubt that Europeans genes , were altered in such a short time.

        Sumerian civilization is fascinating, do study it.

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      • Europeons had to survive in the lands of Europeans.

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    • “White Europeans are generally less aggressive.”

      Just recently,due to social conditioning and oppression by institutions. A prosperous civilization can not flourish when there are too many aggressive people around.We even have to drug our boys nowadays.

      Throughout the history though- whites have been the most aggressive racial group and the most agile too.

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      • A good point. The Aristocrats would kill off the most aggressive and physically impressive European peasants.

        There were lots of eugenic and dysgenic pressures on Europeans. You also saw them shift from field work to factory quite recently. That would affect average physique and diet quite apart from requiring docile labourers.

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  31. on August 18, 2014 at 3:13 pm Holden Caulfield

    OT, but did anyone notice that Obama brought up looting significantly more than he brought up any police issues?

    He’s knows exactly who the problem is but won’t say it.

    #pants up don’t loot

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  32. To attract women, I cut a hole in my neck by my thyroid gland and spray them with my excess testosterone.

    Rape!

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  33. Testosterone, whatever.

    Anyone who is honest knows the truth: “Whites create, Asians imitate, blacks desecrate.”

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  34. Of course there isn’t a difference. Look at any athlete that uses PEDs. They need to be hitting 300% their natural T levels to tap into that anabolic window. A little bit of extra T isn’t going to be noticeable.

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  35. Hey YaReally,

    Still have to write weekend FR (spoiler, I sucked majorly) but any tips you can give on body language? I think that and reactivity are other problems I’m running into. I’m reading MM for mixed sets.

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  36. on August 18, 2014 at 4:01 pm Beautiful Truths Ignored

    Pacifist vegetarian mystic holymen who squat in their own shit on the banks of the Ganges have the world’s highest testosterone levels, and Argentine gauchos have the world’s lowest testosterone levels?!?!?!

    I call bullshit.

    How did Clive and 1000 other Englishmen conquer several hundred million (allegedly) virile Hindus?

    Why did early 19th century English and Spanish forces get their asses handed to them on a platter by the (allegedly) effeminate people of the Pampas?

    If this study is accurate, testosterone has precisely zero correlation with masculinity.

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 12:06 am Dumba$$ Lies Exposed

      Mebbe cause Clive and Co DID NOT?

      Where do u get ur history from? Cliff Notes, the Moron version?

      There were 700 lil kingdoms that made up present day India and the Brits (and French and Portuguese) came in as innocent ol traders before playing the usual games of treachery and back stabbing on em, one after the other over a period of 200 years!

      To be sure there were battles but NONE on the scale of the Great wars between the Hindus and Muslims. They were more like battles here and there – not close to the BS u are pulling with Clive and 1000 Supermen took on and defeated hundreds of millions of Hindus. Btw, Brits did not directly rule ALL of India – they had tributary arrangements with a bunch of kingdoms and had direct control only over the remnants.

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    • Just a theory,

      Maybe testosterone does have slightly different effects on different human races.

      High testosterone levels in male St-Bernard and Golden retrievers does not have the same effect/results as high testosterone levels in German Shepperds or Pittbulls.

      the two former breeds are patient and almost never agressive, while the latter two are notoriously easy to turn into killing machines.

      why would it be impossible that testosterone has a slightly different effect on different human races?

      Maybe it tends to make black males better athletes while it tends to make Asians more intelligent?

      And with whites it is a little of both?

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  37. To compound on my previous post: the variation you’re noticing is most likely due to the insertion points of the muscles. For example, someone who has a bicep that inserts closer to their elbow is going to have a more impressive arm. These insertions can also translate into athletic performance differences. In relation to why Blacks are athletic you also need to compare the two cultures. They are vastly different in both the frequency of athletic activity and also the type.

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  38. I have read quite a bit on this, and this study is simply wrong. Across the boards “free Testosterone” not bound, is what lends itself to strength and even in the books I have read Asians (Including Indians) have lower testosterone levels, whites range from very high to Asian low, and blacks are a standard high average from regular Joe to Mike Tyson rapist level T scale. Think, deep voice, sexual aggressiveness, physical and social aggressiveness, etc etc…take that and run it along the average behavior of most of the races on this globe it matches quite well. The 0% athletic Indians, to Japanese and Korean (somewhat athletic) to Philipinos (Mestizos..think Pacquao) who are quite athletic and ripped for their size.

    The original post about whites ranging in size and strength is spot on, and it might be also added that N. American blacks were bred larger and stronger than any other Africans that left that continent. You can see some thin and ripped Africans or a few (Nigerians are some of the largest) large and powerful Africans, however you will find some of them with a belly and looser skin. Likewise look at Brazilian, Venezuelan, Colombian, Dominican blacks and they tend to be generally thinner. This has to do with where the slaves were taken from in Africa as well as the breeding tactics used by the French and English, vs. the Spanish and Portuguese.. No where on this planet will you find a Ray Lewis but the USA.

    Perhaps one of the best books on Race and Behavior out there… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race,_Evolution,_and_Behavior

    Another great source …
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glayde_Whitney

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    • roccopilsner

      Well done. Test is a complicated thing but you are positively correct on ” Free Testosterone “. Many other factors that aren’t mentioned here also come into play ie: Conversion rates to estrogen and DHT. Outside of environmental factors ( soy, plastics, our bullshit food supply ), conversion rates differ greatly from man to man, and this could make a world of difference in the impact high or low T levels have individually.

      I’ve never thought about it racially though.

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      • … Oh, I forgot SHBG. ( told you it’s complicated..) Free Test and DHT do much more to bring out what we all define as ” maleness “. A guy can have test levels through the roof, but if these other factors don’t all play out correctly, he may in fact look like a sickly little man-girl.

        The exception to this map is the introduction of massive levels of anabolic steroids. Dozens or even hundreds of times more than any man could possibly produce, hence our professional ” body builders “. But excess always has a price eventually, see: Mike Matarazzo.

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    • Related,

      and something CH could include into one of his brilliantly written posts.

      At the site E-how.com a search for: ” how to punish your boyfriend ” gets you plenty of results from how to punish your boyfriend, how to train your boyfriend to how to win a divorce against your husband.

      yet a search for : ” how to punish your girlfriend ” gets you ZERO results on how to punish her…

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 1:29 pm ratwithnoname

      Yes, you are correct.

      Free testosterone vs. serum testosterone is the real story.

      Typically, most serum testosterone (>90%) is conjugated with SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin) and therefore unable to plug into anabolic or androgenic receptors.

      A man with lower overall serum T but a greater percentage of unbound T will exhibit more physical and behavioral effects than a man with the reverse.

      SHBG levels are influenced by genetics, environmental stimuli, nutrition, meds/supplements, and opportunity events (i.e., when an alpha leaves a group and creates an alpha vacuum).

      In my own case, paying attention to SHBG levels yielded a lot more mass and behavior than trying to raise serum T, and it was easier.

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  39. BTW, off topic, but I unintentionally used a Chateau tactic on a girl, loved the results. Online stuff is flaky for me–girls often just stop replying, etc.

    Some girl messaged me, was interested. a 7, I guess? I might watch too much film to know accurately. She gave me her number, I said I’d text her–then didn’t. Didn’t feel like it, so I didn’t text or email.

    Just got an email from her giving me her number again, saying she ended up spending the day studying, and we could meet later, complete with a smiley face.

    You guys teach it right!

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  40. “White Europeans are generally less aggressive……”

    Irak, Afghanistan, Panama, Grenada, Falkalnds, Balkans, Vietnam, Korea,
    WW2, WW1, Russo-Jap War, Spanish American War, US Civil War, US Indian Wars, Boer Wars, Crimean War, Napoleanic Wars, War of 1812, America n Revolution, French Revolution, English Civil War, 100 years war, 30 years War, War of Spanish Succession, etc….. going back 1000 -1500 years or so……

    “Whites” were and are called BARBARIANS for a reason by the civilized Negroes, Asiatics, and Mediterraneans of antiquity.

    So much so, that today we call the rampaging Negroes of Ferguson – VANDALS – i.e. “Whites”.

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    • It’s all true. And it might do black folk plenty of good to reflect on our patience, which is near its end.

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    • on August 18, 2014 at 6:38 pm Hammer of Love

      Can you please list some “NEGRO ” civilizations / or empires for me? I’m all ears. More then five would be great.

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      • Hammer, For the sake of argument, lets say there are none.

        Now,

        what does that have to do with me fucking your sister?

        You think thats whats on a white girls mind?

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 9:05 am Hammer of Love

        ” what does that have to do with me fucking your sister? ”

        Thwack:

        Please stick to the subject your hypothetical, non-sequitur answers are beneath you. You can do much better than that.

        As far, as black civilizations go, I can name two, without even trying, its a shame that you, as a black man, cant seem to.

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      • well we know whats always on your mind thwacky boy. nice reframe.

        odd how so many of the negro persuasion pump their chests in pride while simultaneously wishing to dilute their genes. what the deal yo!

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      • As far, as black civilizations go, I can name two, without even trying, its a shame that you, as a black man, cant seem to.
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        Well like I said before; black civilizations is the last thing on my mind before Im fixin to split some Norweigen teak.

        But in a rush I’d say The Denial civilization is the most well known.

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    • And HOOLIGANS!! (The Irish!!)

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  41. A recent post by Tim Ferris claimed abstaining from masturbation for five days would up T 147%. I’ll let you draw the conclusion regarding black consumption of porn. Malcolm Gladwell has pointed out the difference in educational outcomes between higher and lower class kids reflects what they do over the summer. Low class kids play outside all summer. This leads to lower body fat, which is estrogenizing anyway, while white girls in the suburbs are on fat free diets during puberty. And wonder why they’re flat chested.

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  42. “Anyone who is honest knows the truth: “Whites create, Asians imitate, blacks desecrate.”

    You obviously never finished elementary school….examples.

    Writing/Alphabet: Romans got it from the Greeks who got it from the Phoenicians who got it from the Negroes – the Egyptian variety who got it from the South – Nubian/Sudan.

    Civilization: the notion itself, rule of law, organized religion Judeo-Christianity) , art, architecture, infrastructure, science, astronomy, monotheism, hygiene – i.e. bathing regularly (not something barbarians were into) etc…(see above)

    ALL modern music created in the last 100-150 years. –
    jazz, blues, hip hop, ragtime, bluegrass, rock and roll, metal, reggae, reggaeton, salsa, merengue, bachata, R & B etc…..

    it appears that reality is the complete opposite of what you state:

    Negroe creates
    Asiatic imitates
    Whites descrates: i.e. tries to destroy and disrespect the creator and then pretend that He/She/It is the creator …

    White/Blond Jesus, Elvis, and the wonderful new movie coming soon …
    The Ten Commandments Part 2 – i.e. “Gods and Kings:”

    i.e. white people pretending to be Africans who are the basis of so called “Western Civilization, while at the same time trying to disrespect Africans…

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    • the Egyptians took nothing from nubia…everything you say is patently wrong.

      The roman alphabet does not resemble Egyptian or Sumerian hieroglyphics. Subsaharan Africans created nothing. No amount of afrocentric revisionist bullshit can change that. They sequenced King Tut’s fkin DNA, FFS, I cannot believe people like you still exist.

      When people say Africans, they mean BLACKS, not Caucasians (Egyptians). Yes, they can sequence and identify fkin arab DNA too. It has the Neanderthal in it like whites and orientals but not blacks.

      As for who created what…let’s just start with calculus and go to the microprocessor or something. Let’s throw in the wheel while we’re at it. Africans are stupid, violent, and primitive. They WERE and they ARE. For a people who supposedly invented astronomy and architecture, the continent is devoid of black-built structures containing more than one story. The Acropolis still stands, as do the Pantheon, Colosseum, and a host of other Roman works.

      There is no archeological evidence of ANY of the things you claim in sub-Saharan Africa. ONLY near Egypt, whose ruling classes came from the north.

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    • White peoples alienation from all other people and nature itself is a reflection of their alienation from the Creator

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    • lol…ok you got us, we are merely farmers and the strategic component to your experience. i suppose its IS the cow that gives the milk and steak but pumpkin, he lives in the farmers barn 😉

      like that awesome cartoon i just saw that had a girls asking “why don’t white guys organize” and the dude says “ever heard of civilization?”

      for the record, I am anti technology/civilization and am merely waiting to be a neighborhood warlord in the neofeudal system that is developing.

      and yes, i’ll farm blacks right along with the whites, no worries.

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    • Ooh sorry..King Tut was a cracker. DNA Nice try nigger!

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  43. I wonder why medicine is overlooked. Because in medicine you have to pay attention to the race of a patient in order to diagnose a pathology.
    Negroes tend to suffer from different diseases than Europeans, and Asians have their own problems. Our genetics are very very different.

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    • Corruptba
      I wonder why medicine is overlooked. Because in medicine you have to pay attention to the occupation of a patient in order to diagnose a pathology.
      inmates tend to suffer from different diseases than Wardens, and Guards have their own problems. Our genetics are very very different.

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  44. “Negroes tend to suffer from different diseases than Europeans, and Asians have their own problems. Our genetics are very very different”

    I agree. “Whites” suffer from the genetic defect which produces a form of ALBINISM. This is why they are “WHITE” nature/evolution prefers “BLACK” – better UV protection, better to hide from predators, easier to hide from prey, etc…..HOMO SAPIENS are created is NEGROE.

    It is interesting that “Whites” try to make what is a genetic deficiency state a virtue….. the inability/difficulty/ and or insufficient ability to produce melanin.

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    • There is no question that lack of pigment is a problem. Look at the rate of skin cancer in whites, especially in lower latitudes.

      However, the rate of rickets is far higher in blacks. Only because white people fortify food with vitamin D allows black to live in higher latitudes.

      Bad decision, IMHO, but, I don’t make the rules.

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    • If white people are albinos, why can we easily tell albino and non-albino Europeans apart? Even if they’re Swedes?

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      • Because white people are NOT albinos. White people can tan. People with albinism will burn. But the value of a person is not their ability to withstand UV radiation, but what they can do with their mind.

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    • No there is much more to this.Just several standard medical school examples and well known facts from the top of my head: cystic fibrosis (europeans), sickle cells disease (blacks), heart attacks (black more prone),hypertension (blacks),colorectal cancer (jews more prone), black men have higher mortality for cancer (despite the same treatment), indians have much higher levels of angina,etc etc

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      • (blacks), heart attacks (black more prone),hypertension (blacks),colorectal cancer
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        These 3 pathologies can all be reduced by changes in BEHAVIOR; stop drinking, smoking, do yoga, stop over eating…

        Cystic Fibrosis?

        not so much

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      • “These 3 pathologies can all be reduced by changes in BEHAVIOR; stop drinking, smoking, do yoga, stop over eating…”

        No, the data is corrected to the life style and medical service.Blacks have different metabolic pathways.

        Here is couple more black diseases: sarcoidosis (blacks 16 times more than whites), diabetes (almost double as much). Or pure genetic disorders: thalassemia, G6PD deficiency.

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      • Let me repeat for the hard of hearing:

        NI66ERS HAVE SHITTY LIFESTYLES.

        THEY EAT SHITTY FOOD AND ENGAGE IN SHITTY BEHAVIORS.

        And that is where they get their shitty health.

        Meanwhile at 6am I see all these white people running and cycling:BEFORE THEY GO TO FUCKING WORK!

        THE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH NI66ERS IS THEY DONT HAVE A “METABOLIC PATHWAY” EXCEPT FROM THE COUCH TO THE FRIDGE AND BACK

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      • Thwack one day you blame blacks and the next you blame whites

        are you bi-polar?

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      • Let me repeat to you: THE DATA IS CORRECTED TO LIFESTYLE AND LEVEL OF MEDICAL SERVICE.

        There are whites who suffer from heart attacks more than other whites due to alcohol and shitty food consumption (Russians or for example Glaswegians who have significantly shorter life expectancy than Southerners).

        In all equal conditions: blacks suffer more from all what I described.

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      • Caramba

        In all equal conditions: blacks suffer more from all what I described.
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        You cannot have “equal conditions” in a system of white supremacy; if you did you would not be counting black people anymore than you would be counting tall people or short people…

        In all equal conditions: inmates suffer more from all what I described than guards and wardens

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      • ” You cannot have “equal conditions” in a system of white supremacy”

        You can-in socialist countries of Europe (UK,Scandinavia,Benelux) where everyone is entitled to free (or paid by the state) medical care, housing and benefits.

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      • Canadian Friend

        Thwack one day you blame blacks and the next you blame whites

        are you bi-polar?
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        the truth doesn’t have a pole.

        You want the truth or a pep rally?

        You could change your name to Canadian Enemy and I would still tell the truth.

        The truth is black and ugly; don’t punk out, don’t run from it like Greg Eliot.

        Be a man, accept it and deal with it.

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      • Thwack, I’m starting to feel like a freeloader… let me pay you something for the space I’m occupying in yo’ haid.

        lzlzozlzozlzolzolzolozlozl

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    • This is why they are “WHITE” nature/evolution prefers “BLACK”

      Evolution created whites 40 somethingK years ago such for a reason. White skin->More UV light->Vit D->No rickets->Women can give birth (rickets sufferers have deformed pelvises).

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    • on August 18, 2014 at 6:47 pm Hammer of Love

      al; I don’t think these honkeys aren’t capable of understanding your brilliant, erudite logic, so let me explain a few of your points to them.

      1) Only whites can be racists.

      2) Race is only skin color.

      3) There are no skeletal differences between races.

      4) We are all equal, but blacks are better athletes.

      5) We are all equal, but blacks have bigger dicks.

      6) America was built by the black man.

      7) Higher black crime rates are because of racism.

      8) Higher black poverty rates are because of racism.

      9) Only whites had slaves.

      10) African nations are only poor, and backwards, because of white colonialism.

      11) The white race suffers from a disease.

      12) Blacks are equally intelligent, but please keep affirmative action going.

      Those are just a few I thought of the top of my head, but I’m sure you can come up with some more. Good luck AL .

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      • I find the last statement one to be the most hypocrite of them all.

        We run,jump and swim differently because our bodies are different; we suffer from different diseases because our metabolic pathways are different,yet we have similar brains? lol. Of course not.

        And every doctor or scientist or generally intelligent person knows it deep inside.

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      • The entire stance of the left is based on double standards..let’s ad a few more..

        1. Sexuality and gender roles are taught..yet gays are born that way.
        2. All whites owned slaves.
        3. Post civil war blacks wanted to return to.Africa but weren’t allowed.
        4. Blacks had a strong family structure before whites brought them over
        5. Racial.differences.do not.exist, yet racism is everywhere..

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      • or beauty is in the eye of the beholder, that men are brainwashed by media to like slim chicks and hate fatties

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      • Excellent summation of Niglogic.

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    • When debating Frances Cress Welsing on Tony Brown’s Journal, William Shockley tried to equivocate by claiming white people suffer more nervous system diseases while black people suffer more heart diseases. He specifically cited Huntington’s Corea as a disease afflicting white people.

      But the key is that heart disease can be mitigated through changes in BEHAVIOR.

      See how white people try to trick you?

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    • this is precisely why EVERYONE prefers white skin- even fkin blacks do. The ruling castes in Africa were whiter as well.

      There is no need for skin pigment up north, chimp.

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      • White skin makes you look like you walked up out of ground zero or something.

        In addition, you need melanin in your eyes in order for them to function correctly.

        Most albinos are legally blind because just like film in a camera, light entry must be confined to the lens in order to produce a clear image. Melanin pigment prevents light from leaking in and distorting the image.

        You have a ni66er eyeball; are you going to pluck it out?

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      • Let’s hypothetically say that the destiny of humanity is to get to another planet and populate it.

        Will that mission risk black crew members? Remember that the crew would have very little sunshine. Blacks are like craw dads or crabs dragging everything down.

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  45. Asians are the slightest and the least toned

    Maybe that is why I find asian women so danged alluring… Don’t know, don’t care – I just do… But then, my tastes in women have changed over the years – in college, I was “into” black women, grad-school pretty much anything with legs that I found attractive was on the menu. These days, I’m a bit more selective as to age, looks, body-type, but when it comes to race – every woman is “pink” where it counts.

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  46. on August 18, 2014 at 5:43 pm alcestiseshtemoa

    I hate the word “Latin American” since it doesn’t accurately depict the continent. I prefer the terms Central and South American for geographical estimation. For ethnic estimation I would use the following: white, middle eastern, south asian, east asian, Amerindian, mestizo (mixed), castizo (mixed), black, mulatto (mixed), quadroon (mixed).

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  47. As the only Iranian probably here, I will opine on Persian weapons grade Testosterone:

    -Dodged revolutions, bombs, bullets & mullahs growing up – fun times!
    -Square jaw, pronounced brow, chiseled cleft chin
    -Started shaving at 14
    -Deep gravely voice
    -By 16 benching 245lbs; football payers in awe
    -Banged 24+ yo college babes while 16
    -Cock over 8″ and very thick; hit g-spots, cervix, and gag throats to tears
    -Huge loads; avg 6 spurts; can hit her face or wall from pull out at pussy
    -Impregnated 6 women (all aborted) with condoms, periods, pull-outs, pill
    -Stubble is like nails
    -Full hairy chest; legs; back, arms
    -Full head of hair; haircuts ever 21 days
    -Can ejaculate 3-4 times and bang for 3-4 hours…even at 45
    -Banged over 100+ Women
    -Bang 20s Women off match.com like a pimp – put Dominant in profile!
    -Can bang a GF, 20 times over a weekend
    -Worked on Wall St, Private Equity & VC 20+yrs – bitch slapping white-boys crying, quitting, depressing, and whining while I lined my pockets and defiled their blondes.

    I think main take-away: being the sapwn of Ghenghis Khan and the only surviving empire to still be in Top 10 countries in GDP, Population, and Natural resources takes some big swinging balls

    No Ball, No babies.

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    • Silver_Fox

      You impregnated 6 women while wearing a condom?

      Is this a joke? what do you mean by that?

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    • You taklk that shit to me Abdul,I’ll put you in…your…grave

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    • I have the feeling your 8 inch dick has been inside some male butts. You lowlife piece of shit.

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    • First of all,not Persian but Iranian. It’s 21 century nowadays.

      Second, all this testosterone does not translate into sports. What is Iran good at,badminton lol?

      Third, all the Iranians I have met in my life were obsessive betas, mad about female attention and ready to do anything to get a pussy. Hell, just look at Roosh- he went to amazing lengths just to get a mediocre pussy.

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  48. It needs to be added that in “World’s Strongest Man” competitions the majority of the competitors, and almost all of the winners, are white. Blacks may be more athletic but white men are the strongest.

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  49. “On January 16, 1988, he was fired by the CBS network (where he had been a regular on NFL Today since 1976) after commenting to WRC-TV reporter Ed Hotaling at Duke Zeibert’s Washington, D.C. restaurant that African Americans were naturally superior athletes at least in part because they had been bred to produce stronger offspring during slavery:

    “ The black is a better athlete to begin with because he’s been bred to be that way, because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs and he’s bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trade … the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid …[2] ”

    According to the New York Times obituary, Snyder expressed regret for his comments, remarking: “What a foolish thing to say.” His CBS co-workers publicly stated that they did not agree with Snyder’s theories and that they did not oppose CBS’ decision to fire him. Black former NFL player Irv Cross said in the 30 for 30 documentary about Snyder that he worked alongside Jimmy for a long time and didn’t consider him to be a racist at all. In the same documentary, Frank Deford sympathetically noted that Jimmy often tried to sound more educated than he actually was, and that his comments were basically him trying to make a point about a subject he knew nothing about.

    Snyder also commented during the WRC-TV interview that if blacks “take over coaching jobs, like everybody wants them to, there’s not to be anything left for white people.”[3]

    In 1991, Snyder sued the CBS network for age discrimination, defamation and breach of contract.[4] Snyder maintained that his firing aggravated his personal health problems, according to court papers.[4] Snyder’s attorney, Jeffery L. Liddle, stated that by “firing and repudiating Mr. Snyder, CBS quashed his dream, his dignity, and his spirit.” [4]”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Snyder

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  50. Generally whites are superior to any other race,in terms of survival athleticism.
    Long distance running, cross country skiing,swimming, stamina, climbing,power lifting. Find me a black person in triathlon or penthatlon lol.

    Blacks are only good at sprinting and jumping (same muscles involved). Not even in boxing anymore -the recent absolute, undisputed dominance of Ukrainian Klitchko brothers is the proof.

    The wrestling is the domain of neither whites nor black-Middle easterners rule there.

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    • The real test of physical suppremacy is the population you see in Spec Ops forces.

      Very very few golliwogs.

      Sports are just an amusement.

      [CH: triathlons are also dominated by white men. it seems any endeavor that requires a balance of different skills favors white men.]

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  51. I find it curious that american men give so much praise to black man’s athleticism. Probably some inferiority complex from a school ground.

    You don’t see it in Europe that often. Blacks play football (soccer) well, but Europeans are still better. And basketball is not that massive here.All the cool sports here are dominated by whites.
    And who watches 100m sprint anyways? Maybe once every 4 years,for 20 seconds in the olympics news cast.

    I actually thing we need different Olympics for whites and blacks. It’s pointless to compete in sprint if you are white, it’s equally pointless to compete in swimming and cycling if you are black.

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    • Europeans follow track and field very closely; much more closely than Americans who only pay attention every 4 years.

      Also, a pejorative for black people is “spear chucker” but its white people, often from Nordic countries that always win the javelin competition.

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      • In high school coach told me I would be perfect for “javelin catcher.” It was just a joke.Lot of the guys thought it was funny. Ha ha that coach!

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  52. Can we at least PLEASE bury the myth that “white men can’t jump?” This has been proven false over and over again. A good number of the best leapers in the world are white (And please don’t tell me long jump and high jump is “technique” which makes it different. Just admit white men can jump). I don’t know how much T plays into leaping ability, but I’m sure it has something to do with it.

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    • The white men (and women) who win the high jump are built like a certain type of African; they are tall with long legs and arms with very little body fat.

      I said it before, and I’ll say it again until it sinks into you crackers: we didn’t get our features from you; you got your features from us. There is a black man with the same facial features and build as Mr. Rutherford in Africa RIGHT NOW; Does he have red hair and pale skin?

      No.

      But the same “African” legs that allowed Mr Rutherfords ancestors to successfully walk to Britain are the same ones that allow him to win the high jump today.

      It was an innovation that changed the world.

      You red headed mayonaise eatin, airplane building, skyscraper making, computer programing, atom splitting, dry, white slimfast drinking cracker:

      go tha fuck back to Africa.

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      • Thwack, whites coming from Africa was a long time. The less athletic among white athletes also came from Africa. But so what? We are comparing the modern day athletic/physical ability differences. Whites definitely get sold short in some events. While I have no compelling argument for Olympic level 100-400 meter sprinting since so few white athletes made it to the finals in the past several Olympics (notable exception, Jeremy Wariner who won Gold in the 2004 Olympics, the last white man to win a medal in the 100, 200, or 400m sprints)…But, whites have been doing well in Olympic jumping events…in 2012 winning 4 of the 9 medals in long, high, and triple jump. You can argue that blacks are “on average” better at jumping, but you can’t say that difference accounts for total domination. There will be a certain percentage of whites that have good leaping ability. Whites in America are being religiously instructed to worship black athletic ability, so probably not many white jumpers will be seen in Olympics to come due to pure abdication of the potential that exists. But we will still see them from England, Australia, Sweden, and Russia.

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      • You are a totally schizophrenic loser.

        The white, red head is actually a nigger?

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  53. Hammer:
    “1) Only whites can be racists.

    Technically correct. Racism is white supremacy. invented, practiced and implemented by whites in all areas of human activity: religion, law, entertainment, sex, politics, finance,

    2) Race is only skin color.

    Technically correct: before white supremacy there was no concept of “race” as we know it.

    3) There are no skeletal differences between races.

    -there are.

    4) We are all equal, but blacks are better athletes.

    incorrect. blacks are homo sapiens. every body else ? …neanderthal hybrids afflicted with levels of the genetic defect of albinism.

    5) We are all equal, but blacks have bigger dicks.

    – see 4

    6) America was built by the black man.

    -not true. but no more true than the notion that Jesus is white, pale, blonde, with blue eyes. or the notion that “Whites” are from Europe.

    7) Higher black crime rates are because of racism.

    Largely correct. What were black crime rates before imposed white supremacy ?

    8) Higher black poverty rates are because of racism.

    -Largely correct

    9) Only whites had slaves.

    -Incorrect

    10) African nations are only poor, and backwards, because of white colonialism.

    Since 1492: Largely correct. In fact African Kingdoms were destroyed and replaced by “Nations” with borders drawn by Europeans: See Berlin Conference (1880s i think ) (see white supremacy)

    11) The white race suffers from a disease.

    -true- albinism and likely a genetic tendency towards sociopathy

    12) Blacks are equally intelligent, but please keep affirmative action going.

    -historically speaking, Blacks are probably more intelligent….but that just opinion.

    Affirmative Action ??? what are you talking about ??

    Homestead Acts: free land/capital (…for white people not Negroes with land stolen from Injuns)
    Fair Deal (…for white people)
    New Deal (…for white people…)
    GI Bill (….for white GIs)
    Low Interest/Easy Access Home Loans to buy homes to move into the middle class suburban tracts (….for white people….)

    Plentyful Government Jobs: Police (see Ferguson – police for all white) , FBI, Pentagon, DEA, IRS, Dept of Ed, State, Ag, etc….. (…for white people….),

    Plentyful contracts for contractors …. (..for white people….)

    and just in case “Whitey” needed a little bit more help:

    -Jim Crow: de jure caste system: terminated in ’68 and followed with de facto “discriminationi. i.e. affirmative action for whitey’s wife, daughter, jewish friend, gay son, transgender daughter, etc…..

    -“Sub- Prime loans for Negroes: regardless of credit score, salarly, assets, Redlining.

    -War on Drugs- i.e. Negroes – remove them from labor and sexual competition.

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    • Yikes… you for real? I mean just look around you man. You know why white people got low interest loans? Because they had good credit and could rightfully be expected to pay off the mortgage.

      Plentiful contracts for contractors? Bro, the fedgov specifically forces anyone receiving federal funds to set aside a certain portion of contracts for ‘minority owned businesses’.

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=government+set+asides+for+minority+owned+contractors

      Government jobs all just for the white man? Really….

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overrepresentation+of+blacks+in+federal+workforce

      Sub prime loans? You do realize that fedgov subsidized and encouraged handing out these cheap no-down-payment loans specifically for the purpose of increasing minority home ownership, right? No, of course you don’t.

      The nonsense about ‘before white supremacy there was no concept of race’ is just some sad marxist claptrap that the academics have made up. You don’t think people in 1000 BC thought there were different races? When the Egyptians enslaved the Jews, did they not think they were a different ‘race’?

      Racism is just white supremacy? So Chinese people can’t be racist against anyone, and Japan trying to exterminate the ‘lesser’ asian races wasn’t racism, and all the other race vs race wars in history that had no white people involved didn’t involve any racism. Ohhhh kay.

      I know I shouldn’t respond to bad troll attempts, but maybe this guy is really just this deluded?

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    • hey man, i don’t want to cause any trouble but would it be possible to just get my wallet back?

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    • al,

      I was going to post a long reply to your bizarre comment but the following will do for now,

      hahaha!

      [CH: “al” is “obsidian”, black power troll extraordinaire in his own mind.]

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 1:56 pm Hammer of Love

        Give them enough rope , and they will hang themselves; Or in this case, give them the right type of questions, and they will implicate themselves. Similar theories.

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    • A nigger can beat the living shit out of a white person,a total stranger–smash em,paralyze em,rape em,break their bones,blind em,kill em– in a rage of pure hatred for the person only because he/she is white,while screaming how he hates white people….and it aint racism? Man niggers got some contrived thinking there.. ..

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  54. “You don’t see it in Europe that often. Blacks play football (soccer) well, but Europeans are still better.”

    Maybe. But still. Who is the Best Ever ???

    see PELE

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  55. Btw,why aren’t there any Black dudes surfing? lol.

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  56. THWACK
    “Because white people are NOT albinos. White people can tan. People with albinism will burn. But the value of a person is not their ability to withstand UV radiation, but what they can do with their mind……”

    Go and brush up on biology and genetics.

    “white”/ depigmented” anything in the animal world is a FORM of Albinism of which there are four different kinds.

    White Lions, White Snakes, White Alligators, White Mice, …. White People…

    always rare, always a defect, always small in number, …….

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    • al, the confusion is due to the definitions. “White” is a political category made up by people who say they are white.

      Do you realize there is no LEGAL definition of white person despite the fact white people are in control of the legal system?

      Guess what white people call white people who try to produce one?

      A racist.

      Isn’t that interesting?

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    • If you and thwack are going to continue this discussion, hold off for about 10 minutes so I can send back my copy of Dumb & Dumber to NexFlix.

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  57. Aren’t many/most U.S. blacks a hybrid of African and European blood, and some with a dose of Native American? Seems to me that they’re benefiting in some ways from that admixture.

    Also, I think it needs to be said that we’re talking about the different races in the unusual environment of easy, calorie dense foods. Native Americans and Pac Islanders have that thrifty gene, where they eat a few Doritos and some Spam and become morbidly obese in no time.

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    • Yes Alex, diet is far more important than many people credit. For example, black people in the U.S need to eat far less meat, dairy and carbs, and instead eat more green vegetation.

      Only in places where the people experienced long winters should a meat based diet be used. I suspect northern Europeans and “Eskimos” can handle higher meat based diets because there is less vegetation during winter.

      Look at what gorillas eat?

      They are vegetarian but very muscular and strong.

      I heard a theologian say that pandas and gorillas are leftover proof that in the begining, God created all animals as vegetarians; and it was only after “the fall” that sin and death entered the world and animals began to eat each other and people…

      BTW, are pandas white?

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      • this is correct.

        being very very northern European (Salian Frank/German) and a big mf’er to boot (6’2. 250 #), my optimum diet seems to be high in meat and fats, cruciferous and root vegtables, and very few carbs.

        dont’ really work out and bench 340 at almost 40 years old.

        fried chicken, fats, and carbs kill more black people than the Klan ever will..

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      • More blacks are killed in a couple months by other blacks in cities like Chicago than the Klan ever killed in all of its existence.

        The klan killed about 300.

        that is it.

        300

        not a lot eh?

        I’m sure some of you already knew that

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      • Gorillas are “muscular and strong”. Ive never seen a gorilla win the Strong Man competition…

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    • Anywhere from 1/2 white to 1/32…

      Blacks are often partly Anglo or Celt.
      They are dissimilar to Africans. On average the black population in the US is 20% YT. It’s an argument for hybrid breeding to generate certain types of Athletes. But the social cost just isn’t worth it.

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  58. “And depending on how you define ‘hispanic’…or Amerindians if you prefer”

    would you rather have a navajo girl or an apachee girl; A creek girl or a cherokee girl ? There is more genetic variation within the “races” than between them

    …..how about rephrasing: “depending on how you define race”

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  59. A bigger muscle (or more toned one) is not necessarily stronger. Sure it may be aesthetically pleasing, but that does not necessarily correlate to higher T levels. Testosterone levels are correlated with strength in the muscle, that has nothing to do with mass of the muscle. Think of Bruce Lee.

    That link too seems to be way off. 5535 pg/ml converts to 553600 ng/dl. Testosterone levels like that are physically impossible. Juicers have somewhere around 1500ng/dl if they are doing it right. I can get to 832ng/dl with two cold showers a day.

    Europeans tend to be fatter because of their genes that they have for fat storage. They kick in with a caloric surplus. Blacks can eat carbs after carbs and still not gain a pound of fat because their bodies are adapted for high sugary consumption.

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  60. in worlds strongest man competitions, whites rule. always.

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  61. youre kinda sterotyping whites as endomorphic,blacks as mesomorphic and asians as ectomorphic. Though there are exceptions to the rule like yushin okami being a large frame japanese(sumos come to mind). Certain ethnic groups have certain builds. In the asians case the mongolians and central asians(kazah uzbek turks etc) tend to be quite stocky while most east asians are small framed.

    For blacks those that come from west africa are known(even by other africans) to be big boned strong musclear mesos. You can look at the commonwealth games and nigeria does well in weightlifting. If you want to find africans that can win world strongest men take a bunch of west africans and move then to north eastern europe and theyll take over.

    Among whites it tends to be germanic and slavics that are big boned. Though yesterday I did see a guy from germany built as thin asian boy.

    seems like a weird pattern that the big boys come from the flat plains. Like plains indians of america were known to be tall,mongols were known to be big,northerner europeans are bigger then southern,northern plains indians are bigger then southern jungle dense indians.

    small frame people have wrists smaller then 6.5inchs,while meduim is 6.5-7.5 and large is over 7.5.

    somalians ethopians japanese would most likely be small frames
    whites middle easterns indians(Caucasoid) will be meduim built usually
    west africans and pacific islanders will be large frame.

    Im small frame but Ive met whites built like me(measured their wrists) but they are heavier then me cause they carry more body fat.

    Kinda agree we south asians do have lotta testosterone, our women have more body hair then some white men hell it can be pretty comparable if they dont tend to it biweekly. I’ve known 1 persian woman and like 5 indian women that were hairy( or more) as me. For indian and middle eastern standards Im ok or not that bad but to my white friends, im a sasquatch. Hell we have side burns when we are kids, and some indian girls under 12 will get hair on the sides of their jaws and cheeks.
    Even though I have slight frame like an east asian kid, even my grandma has bigger bones then I do(fingers wrist hands etc). I get called skinny by every ethnic group except by east asians.

    I disagree that indians or persians are slight frame, they are just slimmer due to diet and complexion(dark skin makes you look lean while light skin makes you look bulky). They are built like typical whites. But due to diet the white guys is just carry extra body fat and looks bigger too thanx to his complexion. But you measure they are the same.

    I think the reason why we have high testosterone is because we dont consume that much soy like in western bread. Our rotis are home made from simple flour.
    Kinda sorta noticed in high school that when we ditch our goofy accents that we had deeper voices then our white friends.

    Our teacher for drama in gr 9 when she lined us from highest voice to lowest voices it indirectly went from white to brown. I among the indian boys had the lowest voices(1 white girl commented how can I a skinny guy emit a deep voice)

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  62. Melanin is not very handy in high latitudes. Ricketts. The t levels surprise me but humans are complex animals. Learn new things every day.

    Re cuck intervracial pr0n, Occams Razor says White women buying it. Occams butterknife says somehow White guys went all gay and buy it.

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    • men consumed playgirl magazines and men consume cuck porn. perhaps a lack of testosterone. perhaps the semitic mind disease manifesting itself in such a manner. perhaps latent or blatant homosexuality. case by case basis. one things for sure, the juice running the porn industry are at the heart of it. isnt that right, whiskey?

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  63. So typical of the HBD crowd. Always linking personal blog sites and representing it as real evidence. The legitimate, peer-reviewed literature on the subject are not referenced because they are assumed to be “PC liberal” nonsense.

    There are no legitimate studies that confirm what you assert.

    Its the same old water-cooler talk: “blacks must be naturally athletic, just look at the NFL and NBA! All black people! Muscle-twitch fibers ya!”

    The general idea is genetic determinism. Whites dominate non-sporting, cerebral professions because their just naturally more intelligent, while blacks are less-so and dominate sports instead. That’s just a lazy thought process and conclusion

    When the HBD crowd continues to refer to “Africans”, like he did here in the list:

    Indo-Aryan (i.e. Iranians and Indians!)
    East Asian
    African
    American
    European
    Middle Eastern
    Latin American

    It makes me wonder. That list hardly represents all of humanity. The interesting thing is, “Africa” is the most genetically diverse continent, but the HBD crowd only gives it one category.

    Which “blacks” do you keep referring to? Somalians? South Africans? People from Cameroon? Or Sudan?

    Each of those groups are different and they don’t all have the same testosterone levels. Kenyans excel in running. They are black. Why don’t South Africans do just as well? What about Nigerians, why aren’t they excelling in the Olympics as well? I thought all blacks are gifted athletically?

    Its convenient to use a broad-brush but once you think critically, it makes less sense.

    “The point of all this is that knowledge is inherently good, and lying liars who wish to bury this knowledge under layers of sophistic equalist fat are enemies of the good.”

    Lol, bury what knowledge? Some guy’s personal blog? Everything you say about testosterone levels among racial groups is not knew, its common folk-lore for lazy-thinkers. No one wants to “bury” shit or “lie” about anything, lol. Everything’s a conspiracy when it goes against your ideology I suppose

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    • Yes for instance Somalian are known to be great philosophers while Ethiopians excel in technical knowledge and computing
      On the other hand South African are are largely known for superior organizational skills and state building
      Finally Mugabe subjects are known to be great artist, painters and architects
      These vile racists here tend broad brush such diversity and vibrancy, trying to deprive the world and humanity of this unmeasurable wealth

      I have not read any of your scribbling before but with a reasonable certainty I will broad-brush you as a leftist retard
      The painting is going to be withe canvas with a big gaping hole in the middle representing the place from which your brain migrated
      But you if you look at it from a slightly different angle it depicts your ontological essence – an asshole
      I am sure your retard leftist friends will admire picture in a modern art gallery
      along with other crimes against art, beauty and civilization

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      • “you as a leftist retard”

        “your ontological essence – an asshole”

        “I am sure your retard leftist friends”

        “I have not read any of your scribbling before”

        I quoted every ad hominem just for effect. Just for the small chance that you might realize how your response is no counter-argument. Calling me a retard doesn’t refute anything I’ve posted. This is boring

        You, unfortunately, can’t follow a single point. You can’t even get from point A to point B without having a psychosis: “you leftist retard! blacks are useless! Don’t you read Steve Sailer???”

        Either way, since you can’t address the issue, I’ll take your (non) response as a concession

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      • Steve Sailer’s dried feces would probably make more money in the open market than your entire existence.

        One doesn’t need to refute your “arguments” because there is nothing to refute. You are either an obnoxious troll or a man or epic stupidity.

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    • The truth is somewhere in the middle. Genetics plays a part both physically and mentally, and the environment as well. A supporting factor for the environmental argument is when you compare how high school athletes perform in track in field in smaller, primarily white states with larger states that; although they have a large white population, also have a large black population. Breaking 11 seconds in the 100m dash in high school is considered the elite level. Idaho had 4 white high school athletes run sub 11 sec 100m dashes; while Florida, which has more than 10 times as many white people, produced only one white runner with a sub 11 sec 100m dash time. The difference? In Idaho track teams have no option but to put white athletes in the sprints, some kids who otherwise my themselves have thought they couldn’t compete end up running and being fast. In Florida? White kids are generally encouraged to do longer distances and field events. I find it very peculiar that in the US we are wasting so much talent over an over-hyped phenomenon. Even if blacks were, on average, faster…that doesn’t mean that all white talent should be disregarded for sprints. Even if your sprint delegation is going to be 80% black and 20% white, those 20% of whites shouldn’t be cast aside for slower black sprinters just because they’re black and have the same skin color as the rest of the 80% of runners. Medals and championships are being sacrificed in the name of black purity. Also, it seems that most other countries don’t buy the “white men can’t jump” myth. Australia, England, Sweden, and Russia have had white jumpers medal/win at the Olympics, while the U.S. seems to only have black jumpers. There are more white men in America then in those countries. There should be some white Americans with great leaping ability medaling or winning in the Olympics; but I guess we’d rather just believe “Blacks are so much better at sports™!”

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      • Even if blacks were, on average, faster…that doesn’t mean that all white talent should be disregarded for sprints.
        —————————————————————————————————-

        This is why you should pay attention to the 800 and 1500 meter events; especially the women.

        You need a really good coach and training to figure out the correct strategy for YOU to win. In those events its not enough to be fastest or more enduring…

        You hafta know when and how to deploy those elements; and not be tricked by opponents pretending to be tired.

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      • I didn’t think so. You’re capable of character assignation, but you’ve still failed to address the points I raised.

        “the name and shame jab”

        Did I not follow this with “to each his own”? No one shamed you. Step off the soapbox. Or stay on it. I don’t care

        “Another highly feminized appeal to authority in your “homework” ”

        Ah, I see what you’re getting at. It’s like we’re back in middle school inside the cafeteria. You get mad and call me girly…touche sir. Will this be followed with a “cooties” accusation?

        ” lack the ability to externalize and analyze…..common among women and Third Gender men.”

        Again with the 3rd grade slight. Try to maintain some level of dignity. Calling me a girly man….well I’m not sure what it does. Definitely not helping out you’re argument though.

        “or you going to jump behind “don’t hit me i’m a girl”?”

        Well you’re certainly persistent with the “Dude! You’re a chick!” thing. Bravo?

        “See, your own life is a game with few actual players, in reality its full of pawns and the other pieces on the board.”

        Attempt at sounding profound? Its impact is drowned out by the preceding immaturity

        “And in this very real and high stakes game “pussy” means nothing. zilch.”

        I’ll revert to my previous statement on that one. To each his own. The high stakes game has not been properly defined to begin with. Your perceived struggle is different than your neighbors

        I propose a challenge to you. Type out an entire response without ad hominem

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    • erecting barriers to easily observable facts is BPD behavior generally undertaken by hystrionic females and Third Gender men (generally “progressive” or gay).

      predictable yet telling.

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      • Science has proven that the human eye and what we can “observe” isn’t quite as reliable as we would like to think. But your ego is too massive to accept this

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      • boring.

        first thing a player does is ditch the ego and deal with whats real.

        wanna try again?

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      • @Tilikum

        I simply suspect that what you refer to as “easily observable facts” is nothing more than folk-lore (mainly US-based).

        Have you done your homework on this stuff? The genetics paint a very different picture than what you think you “observe” in human populations/cultures.

        I’m glad that you consider yourself a player. I’d actually thought that the term went out of style in the late 90’s. To each his own. But you’re either getting pussy, or,……

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      • great comment and i like the consistency in your written speech patterns. lemme show ya:

        ” I simply suspect that what you refer to as “easily observable facts” is nothing more than folk-lore (mainly US-based).”

        i was referring to the easily predictable patterns in human behavior that you can reproduce and stimulate at will. your “folk lore” comment seems to indicate a lack the ability to externalize and analyze…..common among women and Third Gender men. Which might it be?

        “Have you done your homework on this stuff? The genetics paint a very different picture than what you think you “observe” in human populations/cultures.”

        Another highly feminized appeal to authority in your “homework” comment. off the shelf sure, but lemme ask ya tiger…before Jung and Freud did psychology exist? Sure it did, the “experts” (at observation btw) just hadn’t been recognized as such.

        “I’m glad that you consider yourself a player. I’d actually thought that the term went out of style in the late 90’s. To each his own. But you’re either getting pussy, or,……”

        the name and shame jab. again off the shelf. whats next a simple re-frame or you going to jump behind “don’t hit me i’m a girl”?

        See, your own life is a game with few actual players, in reality its full of pawns and the other pieces on the board.

        And in this very real and high stakes game “pussy” means nothing. zilch. nada. Thats the whole idea Chachi. Pussy and the required husbandry that follows is a mere diversion……and as such it becomes frankly a pain in the ass.

        Does that help? I sincerely am trying to coach ya towards something better…. a better you!

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    • “The legitimate, peer-reviewed literature on the subject are not referenced because they are assumed to be “PC liberal” nonsense.”

      You dumb faggot, even “peer reviewed” science agrees.

      “Its the same old water-cooler talk: “blacks must be naturally athletic, just look at the NFL and NBA! All black people! Muscle-twitch fibers ya!””

      Behold this wretched turd: he legitimately, honestly claims that blacks aren’t more athletic, despite the obvious, obvious evidence.

      When you spout nonsense that puts the truth value of your statements lower than that of illiterate peasants and children, you know that you’re buried in your own ass.

      “The general idea is genetic determinism. Whites dominate non-sporting, cerebral professions because their just naturally more intelligent, while blacks are less-so and dominate sports instead. That’s just a lazy thought process and conclusion”

      What is supposed to be bad about “genetic determinism”? All bahviors are more or less heritable. In a few decades, Boas/Meade/Gould believing cunts like you will be laughed at in a way, you probably couldn’t even imagine.

      Ideologue pieces of shit like you ought to be humiliated and spat on in the town square much like many people were in the past.

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      • “You dumb faggot”

        “Ideologue pieces of shit like you”

        lol, and what does that make you? You’ve been a real treat

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    • You presented no argument asshole, and you expect me or somebody else to spend the time to refute non existing
      What you assume that propaganda that your ilk has been spreading for last 60 years is a self evident truth while the whole human history refutes you
      while the centuries are laughing at you and your miserable attempts to make equal what is not and it will never be
      Name one civilization value or achievement coming from Africa, just one in 3000 years, name one country that remotely reassembles to civilized one
      The only think you deserve is mocking and ridicule or what you call ad hominem

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      • “Name one civilization value or achievement coming from Africa”

        I guess you’re so used to repeating phrases like this that you may as well make it you’re e-mail signature. The discussion is about testosterone, not civilizations. I don’t have anymore patience to keep you guys on point

        “The only think you deserve is mocking and ridicule”

        And it is clear that mocking/ridicule is the only thing the few of you are capable of.

        “You’re a girl!”

        You’re a faggot!”

        :”You’re a liberal retard!”

        I’m not impressed. Good luck out there

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  64. The website referenced in the post is bogus. Any desire to frame the material on the referenced website is just an exercise in establishing closure.

    The world is as you see it. White people are almost always in the middle of some human measurement; when that falls out of whack you know the data is probably, but not necessarily, incorrect.

    Check here:

    jcem.endojournals.org/content/91/2/687.full (Swede/Korean study)

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20550541 (South Asian vs Caucasian)

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12608929 (Pakistani v. White v. African)

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22177168 (penis size & anogenital distance, correlation to higher testosterone)

    healthandenvironment.org/ docs/Eisenberg_2012_The_Relationship_Between _Anogenital_Distance_ and_Reproductive_Hormone_Levels_in_Adult_Men.pdf (same study from above in depth)

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  65. @ YaReally or any other PUAs

    I have a few questions.

    1. I’ve been cold-approached during the day recently by a group of three black UMC 20-something chicks (one said of the other, “she likes you”) and by a 20ish Asian college student (hiked up her dress to show a scar on her thigh), all stone-cold sober. I don’t attribute this to some supernatural increase in my SMV.

    Have you seen anything like this recently? Is there some sort of sea change going on in the SMP? Maybe some pop culture articles (maybe on Jezebel) encouraging women to approach men during the day?

    2. Recently, a couple of women hiked up their dresses to show me 1) that she wasn’t wearing panties (happened in a club) and 2) that she had a surgery scar (happened in a Panera’s Sunday a.m.). Obvious attention-whoring and sexualization–at least it seemed that way to me. Have you seen women doing stuff like this? Are pop culture articles encouraging women to sexualize?

    Your answers would be much appreciated.

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    • i’ve said it over and over…..things happening fast on the ground. too many nancy boys…..act like a man and be treated like one.

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    • and they aren’t necessarily sexualizing, they are competing.

      shits about to go down homie and the women know it. they can fucking smell the stink of it on their little sad sack nutless Chris Hayes looking poofster boyfriends.

      the world is a scary enough place for a female because without a man or a functioning substitute (uncle sugar) they are fucking dead or meat for shitheads like Ferguson’s finest.

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      • (i know, i’m pulling a Zombie Shane)

        and by Fergie’s finest i dont mean the cops lol. I mean the high T, low impulse control, “my baby didn’t do nuffin” types…..nogs.

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      • Yeah, as the status of men is lowered incrementally and gradually, more and more men are becoming invisible to women, so those who remain visible stand out more.

        Just remember that feminists continue to implement their strategy to lower the status of men incrementally and gradually. Lesser alphas may be affected soon.

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 9:14 am having a bad day

      @theasdgamer

      your inner game is up to speed and your body language is naturally alpha…you maybe just started to actually relax into that state out ‘in the wild’…lol…girls pick up on this pretty easily…all these IOIs are probably just the result of that… and how else are girls going to get your attention…for some ‘attention’…lol…

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      • @ HABD

        TY. I ran pickup as a teen then retired 40-odd years ago. Nothing changed except my body is older. I always got IOI’s & a request for sex every 5 years or so. Never before have I been cold-approached by women so young nor seen the dress-hiking trick nor have women told me that they aren’t wearing panties.

        I was wondering if others were seeing women do these stunts.

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    • This comment turned me on. Chicks hiking up their dressess? Whoa.

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  66. If you haven’t seen this article check it out… very interesting:
    “Why Great Husbands Are Being Abandoned”
    https://archive.today/heYAt

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    • When I read such articles it simply confirms what I ( and many men ) have been saying for years; women are like 4 year old toddlers.

      Yes they can operate cars or computers, they can become lawyers or doctors or CEOs who earn millions of dollars, but in many areas they behave exactly like 4 year old kids.

      Anyone who has spent time around 4 year old kids knows what I mean.

      You make the kid’s favorite food for lunch; macaroni and cheese, but he throws it on the floor and starts whining, so you make the kid a ham sandwich his second favorite, but he again pushes it away and starts whining, so you give up and it a chocolate pudding while you eat the macaroni and the ham sandwich that would otherwise go to waste,

      but then suddenly the kid changes his mind and wants the macaroni now, but since you ate it he starts crying and whining as if this was really unfair and as if he was the victim of something bad you did to him as his undevelopped brain can not see he is completely responsible, the concept of being accountable is foreign to him,

      and if you keep presenting new food choice to the 4 year old this behavior will only get worse.

      Well women are EXACTLY like that and feminism has been providing them with too many choices; they desperately want a type of man, and when they have it , they want something else, then when they get that other man eventually they don’t want it anymore and want something else and this can go on and on as women do not even know themselves what the hell they want.

      They are never happy.

      There is a reason men have always wanted to control women and it is because women do not even know what they want and behave like 4 year old kids.

      Women are inherently unstable, their female brain and their hormones make them do crazy things and then they regret, but then the next day they the same or a new crazy irrational thing again, and then they have regret and remorse again and this goes on and on.

      Look at what decades of feminism has accomplished; most women are unhappy and most of them make wrong choices. More and more articles are published about this because it is harder and harder to deny this reality; women make bad choices and cause their own unhappiness.

      Complete freedom to women is about the same as letting a 4 year old loose in a candy store.

      Women should be guided and protected like 4 year old kids.

      They are way too unstable to have complete freedom.

      Decades of feminism has not shown us women are equal to men, au contraire! it has shown us women are immature and irrational like 4 year old kids and without men’s guidance and protection they slowly destroy themselves with one bad choice after another from leaving the perfect husband to posting selfies of their tits and ass on social media to getting so drunk they don’t know who or how many guys they fucked (and then the next day having so much remorse they call it a rape)…and the list of stupid choices women make is getting longer everyday and the consequences of this are harder and harder to deny.

      PS: ok maybe not all women but certainly most of them.

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  67. Testosterone Administration Reduces Lying in Men
    http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0046774

    A little off topic, but reading this post brought this study back to me. Makes me wonder if there is a feedback loop with behavior. Do men who have Dark Triad traits, or incorporate them into their game have lower testosterone levels?

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 1:33 am aint nuthin but a gangsta parrttyyyy

      from the guys that i know in the gym taking test and trenbolone specifically, they lie less as they speak their mind more. much less of a fuck is given when you’re chemically juiced

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    • More testosterone = less lying?

      If that is true it would explain why liberal men lie so much about so many things from IQ difference per race, crime rates per race, differences between the male and female brain, AIDS, homosexuality, pedophilia, to domestic violence prevalence with heterosexual women and lesbians and about a couple hundred other topics.

      it would also explain why they revise history and rewrite it with a lot of lies

      It would explain also why the main stream media which is about 90% leftist/liberal lies about pretty much everything

      or why Obama is a compulsive liar devoid of any shame…

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  68. @ any PUAs

    Has anyone noticed that they’ve been getting unexpected cold approaches during the day by women college-age or 20-somethings? Has anyone noticed that women have been hiking up dresses or skirts (with some plausible reason) in order to flash some thigh? Has there been a sea change in the SMP?

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    • Yes, but it’s strictly the Red State chicks with the warm hearts. The Blue State Blue-tropolis types [and/or their daughters] seem to be getting nastier and more hateful every damned day – just completely insufferable.

      If you wanna dip it in a Blue Witch [i.e. if you’re insane], then you gotta ratchet up the Hard Negs.

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    • You’re making this shit up ya faggot!!!

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  69. @ Mr. Heartiste,

    “this symptom of aging is greatly exacerbated by the Western obesity plague, especially in black women who get so enormously fat soon after leaving high school that you’d need a team of archaeologists to excavate evidence of their buried female form.”

    – I think the obesity epidemic is due to the lack of resources available to African-Americans, especially impoverished African-Americans. There is something called a food desert in low-income areas with lots of POC. You’ll notice in low-income, predominately Black areas there are a lot of fast food restaurants and liquor stores, very few gyms, absolutely no organic grocery stores or anything like that. In the well-off/white areas you have access to gyms and healthier food. Couple that with the fact that cortisol is known to be correlated with adiposity and you’ve got a real problem.

    One study said that African-American women have a higher level of cortisol, which is largely due to increased stress. I know this will be an unpopular theory here, but the study actually alluded to the stress of racism as being part of the reason for the higher presence of cortisol in African-Americans. Also in a society that constant portrays African-American women in as unappealing manner as possible, I have no doubt that this adds to the stress that Black women deal with and ultimately leads to weight gain.

    I think health is important. Maintaining a healthy weight is important. Access to healthy food, safe streets where you can go for walks or runs, public parks, gyms are all important for maintaining a healthy weight and of course decreased stress is important too. Also support in general, coming from a balanced, stable household is important too. More African-American women are starting to follow Mrs. Jennifer Hudson’s lead though, which is great.

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    • The food desert argument is patently absurd. Blacks have high obesity rates even when they live within 5 blocks of a Giant, Trader Joe’s, Whole Foods, Harris Teater and a couple farmers markets throughout the week. In DC, nobody that lives within the boundaries of the city is more than 15 min away from a full service grocery store. Anyone in DC who claims they can’t get healthy food because the grocery store is too far away is already too lazy to begin with and has bigger psychological issues to deal with. Also, in DC there is an extensive system system of bike paths, lanes and cycle tracks, a cheap bike sharing system that is in EVERY neighborhood (yes, even the bad ones), and public pools, basketball courts, tennis courts, ice rinks, jogging paths in close proximately to every single neighborhood as well…but, as Thwack noted, these amenities are primarily utilized by white people.

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      • i am just going by what health experts have stated and epidemiologists.

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      • hold on here, you are both correct. “food deserts” do exist, but black obesity is also a function of culture; mainly stress. Even black people who make a lot of money have to work harder to get it than white people.

        Black culture is prison culture. It takes a lot of discipline and what white people refer to as “metal toughness” to avoid adapting to it. I try to get every black person to study the behavior of “Andy” in Shawshank Redemption.

        Thats really how you gotta be; its an extreme form of frame control and it often means you gotta be by yourself which black people hate because the greatest human fear is to be alone. Black females have it the worse of all because they have been assigned the least value of all people on the planet.

        Getting big and fat from over eating is a form of self protection just like being big in prison keeps people from fucking with you.

        Black culture is prison culture.

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    • I think my black ex girlfriend was traumatized out of exercising due to an event that happened when she tried to go bike riding in her moms “gentrifying neighborhood”. She was just starting to get over weight so she bought a bike, the helmet, the gloves… and as she was riding, some black boy about 11 years old ran up in front of her, blocking her way and said “Im gonna fuck you in the ass”. As she attempted to get around him he threw the half filled soda bottle he was drinking at her.

      She has related this story to me over 3 times without prompting.

      She is overweight now but when she was younger she was all tits, ass, long legs and long hair. To this day I suspect black males sexually harassing her is the main reason she never generated a culture of exercise.

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      • I know a story of one Black woman who lost a lot of weight and when she did, she discovered that she was very shapely. Small waist, round hips and very shapely as if everything settled in the right place. But after losing the weight, she noticed she was getting more attention from men, but it was inappropriate attention. She eventually felt uncomfortable and gained all of the weight back.

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      • Also some women will gain weight if they’ve been sexually abused. It’s a sort of mental defense mechanism that the woman puts up. It’s unfortunate. Really for people who are very very overweight, often there are psychological issues in addition to health and nutrition issues. African-Americans, especially lower income African-Americans don’t have the same access to the resources they need to address these issues.

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    • “POC”

      You realise this isn’t Château Huffington, right?

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    • Niggers need safe streets!?!? LOL!!! Good fucking luck!!

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  70. I used to fight a lot of black kids growing up and I was surprised how weak they were despite their large rippling muscles.

    I was prepared to get slaughtered but then we got to grappling and I easily overpower him.

    They really don’t fight well as a group and tend to gang up on people as their only way to win.

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    • I got into a minor road rage situation some five years ago and then pulled into a store parking lot. To my alarm, the other car pulls in there too. With visceral relief, I saw that the other driver was a blacfk male. We exchanged glares and nothing happened.

      Size being similar, I’d rather fight a black than a white one-on-one. Whites ground-and-pound and fight to win once committed. Blacks make a lot of noise upfront, showboat and throw swatting punches once the ight starts.They are helpless once taken down.

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      • have you been to prison?

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      • I have, and let me tell you, being some other inmate’s bitch, letting him do me in the *** for cigarettes and what-all. Sweet times, bro!

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      • not too show off my penis, though being a bouncer, i’ve kicked out a fair share of blacks.

        it’s always a huge production to get them out – one of them turned on me a few months ago when i was helping him out! dafaq!

        turned out his momma was there (no surprise) and saw me ragdoll her son outside.

        lovely lady had me suspended (withpay) for a week because of the horror!

        butthurt for all!

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  71. This is a comment kind of related to the CH post before this.

    I’ve had ex gfs–usually the ones I went radio silence on due to weird vibes with the relationship–change their hairstyle/hair color post breakup.

    There is definitely some psychological analysis to be done about this b/c it’s happened to me about three times before. One time I had a blonde change her hair to brown (wtf?!) and she became uglier…I didn’t get it really, but I think there was significance behind it.

    I think that when a girl does this (sporadic hair color change) she has failed at something and is starting over from a “nothing to lose” “let’s try something new/different” attitude b/c she lost at w/e just happened.

    Brittany spears and other celebrities are perfect examples of this.

    Am I overanalyzing or is this hair color thing real…cause I’ve seen it too many times

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  72. Art Nouveau was (is) a high point on the bright, shining upward path of human destiny and hope. etc. (Of course , it died in 1914) But still.
    I dare you to find even 1 (one) adult female portrayed in the art of that genre that you would fnock fuck your last fuck into…
    Sorry about dragging in whatsher name. She jumped, I did not.
    Fade to black….if yu want.

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  73. Say hello to a Stone cold empty zone of deadly words and lies….

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  74. […] Anyone who’s lived a day in his life (or played summer football in a city park or worked out at a vibrant gym) has noticed that different races have different musculature and athletic talent.  […]

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  75. People should keep PEDs in mind. Come on, this is where pretty lies perish, isn’t it. Jamaica being dominant could be an effect of PEDs. It’s also highly unlikely that Cain Velasquez isn’t on something.

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  76. Most African Americans are descended from 1) the Yoruban tribe (s) of West Africa, whose communities were the easiest to navigate to from Western Europe, and 2) the Scots-Irish and Western European whites, who were the largest ethnic groups in the Southern plantation regions.
    When various abolition movements were able to repatriate former slaves to Africa (willingly, more or less), they soon came to dominate the natives – by imposing very Western, colonial ways of doing things – banking, shipping, trade, and mercantilism. To this day, the elites of Liberia are descended from former African American slaves.
    IQ and other genetic traits are extremely hard to pin down. Most American blacks have large amounts of white in them. Some will fall to either extreme of any bell curve, insofar as intelligence or any physical traits are concerned.
    Others will have parents with very well paid government jobs (Michelle Obama comes to mind) and have spent their lives in tax payer supported comfort, with good nutrition, good (in a few cases, extremely good) educations, and stable homes – far from the polluted squalor of the inner northern cities, which are themselves light years better than the grinding deprivations if the rural South.
    I for one firmly believe you would see a lot of black poverty and dysfunction vanish if you removed or greatly reduced the welfare state.
    You would see stable families, private sector growth, decent or better schools – all of those things that account for white American prosperity.
    Where you have heavy government controls, illegitimacy, bureaucracy, endless laws, cronyism, and constant racial/gender-based conflict, you have poverty, dysfunction, and squalor. History shows us this quite clearly.
    Somehow the IQs of the Irish skyrocketed when they freed themselves from British labor socialism and the snooty leftist class systems the UK so adores. Their IQ test results went up, nationally, by nearly twenty points, to the average of what most of Europe and North America have.
    I don’t know if something similar could be accomplished with African Americans, but it is certain that removing the dependency and helplessness of the welfare state would improve us all.
    Mr Market is a rising tide that lifts all boats. Labor socialism, however well intentioned, is the road to serfdom.

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    • Duh, why do you think LBJ went from opposing civil rights legislation to not only pushing it but also adding in the Great Society. Ponder the theory that he and the rest of the Party of the KKK didn’t change their mind, that instead that simply changed their tactics. And gained the votes of their victims as a (intended) bonus. What if he simply realized that welfare would ‘keep em in their place’ far better than burning crosses.

      Poverty certainly didn’t reduce, yet they are still 110% in support of continuing the policy so we only have a couple of theories to explain Prog actions.

      1. They are stupid and unable to evaluate a half century of failure.

      2. The policy is a success, they just can’t speak openly of the purpose or the results.

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      • It is mostly about money and having a job,

        Organizations or government departments that receive millions or billions to help some “victim group” always fail to produce good results and they do that on purpose so that they can say ; ” if only we had a bigger budget and more staff then we could get rid of poverty, crime etc etc ”

        with the help of the lying media and dirty politicians they manage to convince the goverment to give them more money and make those organizations bigger so they can have a bigger staff consisting of mostly their friends and family or those who can help get them more money

        those organizations give some of that money back to their favorite party ( usually Democrat) who then vote for giving more money to those organizations

        Most of what is done to help the poor, the sick or the whatever popular victim of the day is done to fill the pockets of the people in charge and to create jobs for their friends and family and those who can help them keep the money coming

        That is why all those programs produce so little results, they are way too lucrative for way too many people.

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      • There are three main problems with the common conservative talking point “Democrats are the real racists”:

        – Liberalism is more harmful to Whites than it is to Blacks.The Klan or Dixiecrats didn’t figuratively kill four Whites for every Black.

        – While harming the quality of Blacks by pushing r-selection, liberalism increases the quantity of blacks.

        – Blacks overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.

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      • Ponder the theory that he and the rest of the Party of the KKK didn’t change their mind, that instead that simply changed their tactics. And gained the votes of their victims as a (intended) bonus. What if he simply realized that welfare would ‘keep em in their place’ far better than burning crosses.

        Dumb neoconservative crap. “Racism is bad! Democrats are the real racists!”

        So giving Blacks free money and privileges is actually a strategy for being evil to Blacks and good to Whites. It “keeps Blacks in their place”? Idiotic.

        What neocon liars and their parrot followers “forget” is that Democrats and Republicans have switched places over the years. “The party of Lincoln!” is a retarded slogan. The parties switched places when the Republican strategy turned to conservative values in order to win over White workers in the South, which worked. That is why Nixon and Reagan, for example, won such overwhelming victories.

        The Democrats kept being pro-worker because that had always been part of the anti-Washington, anti-Northern-industrialist-lobby drive, but they didn’t try to win the workers culturally. And then the Democrat party came to be dominated by Marxists. There were key players in this, Democrat senators working together with the media owners who printed everything they said, though I don’t have the senators’ names right now.

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    • The Irish simply began to retain talent. During the 1990-2010 era the talented ones stopped going to New York or London to fulfill ambitions.

      The Irish are practically indistinguishable from the East Island anyway. See Wayne Rooney or even David Cameron and compare the ugly mugs with their Irish peers.

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  77. White people are in total about 15% of the world’s population. White men have however consistently won the sprint events at the Olympics from 1900 to 2000. I therefore conclude that white men are the fastest people on earth over short distances – they are also if I may say so the most varied of sprinters: from the power of Allan Wells and awkwardness of Eric Liddell to the lithesomeness of Pietro Menea through to the grace of Valerie Borzov and to the blue-eyed blonde-haired lightening start of Armin Hary.

    And let’s not forget Jack Donaldson who even with the kit and training available 100 years ago was in 1920 only 0.3 of a second off what is now the world record for the 100 Yards dash.

    May I also put in a word in favour of Jeffrey Archer who must surely be the only sprinter to run for his country who is also a best selling novelist, member of the aristocracy, convicted felon former Vice Chairman of the Tory Party and married to a woman of fragrance.

    Those who have failed to notice all this are clearly self-loathing anti-white Racists.

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  78. It is also to be noted that negroes have deeper voices, whereas Asians tend to sound more high pitched. There have been a number of great Negro Basses (Willard White, Robeson) but no great tenors that I can think of.

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  79. Anyone felt a wee change in hamster behavior since the Ferguson shit started going down (a beta in the hand is better than two alphas in the bush?)

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  80. Here’s one explanation why Asian men appear more slight than other races: their diet is high in soy. Soybeans contain high amounts of phytoestrogens, chemicals that mimic estrogen in the human body.

    In many cases they start consuming it before they can walk. This lifetime of consumption can cause adverse effects in men. It might also explain why we like their women so much

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    • just another reason to avoid soy based products 99% of the time.

      it’s almost near impossible these days, with the injected estrogen secret sauce in half the food these days

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  81. “Commenter splooge adds that black men are beginning to dominate the “sport” of bodybuilding. In the article, eight-time Mr. Olympia winner Lee Haney admits that the reason blacks do so well in sports and bodybuilding is “our genetics”. Jimmy the Greek wept.”

    Bodybuilding is dominated by blacks. It is just hopeless for whites to compete against people like Kai Greene. The dude is just massive: http://body-world.net/wp-content/gallery/kai-greene/kai-greene-10.jpg

    I think people also overestimate the importance of testosterone. The following relationships seem to exist: low t in men, and high t in women, produce high math talent and high musical composition talent. Low T in men and women produces duplicitous personalities.

    WHY WHITE MEN DOMINATED THE WORLD
    My guess is that middle T is best, but as it falls, people become more duplicitous and less courageous thus facilitating the decline of civilization. High T cannot possible always be good for the maxim brains vs brawn is well known. The best combination is likely high IQ matched with slightly higher than average T and testicles that produce a lot of sperm. The latter is critically important as spermatogenesis seems to be related to some types of creativity. You notice that blacks have a ton of fluid creativity despite low average IQ. We also know that male creativity declines with age along with spermatogenesis. At the height of my creative powers I suffered a testicular injury that went undiagnosed. I turned to testosterone replacement, but the creativity never roared again; and critically, my desire to fuck everything in sight (I remember masturbating during a meeting because the woman on the other side was kinda cute) was also way down despite excellent overall T levels from replacement therapy (T therapy kills all spermatogenesis leaving you with dead balls). What high levels of spermatogenesis does is to creative interstitial testicular pressure that can only be relieved via ejaculation; and the pressure can return very fast with high spermatogenesis. This constant testicular pressure results in a different psychology than if the pressure is lower. So the optimal is having a high IQ with high pressure in the balls and slightly above to way above T levels. Such a combination will produce a man of rare and incomparable character and ability. This is probably why so many of histories great men are white, for white men are in the middle of psychological and physical measures. Thus for someone have the rare +2 SD deviations (based on white centering) for these an other measures is likely to happen in whites more than say West Africans who would need a +4 SD advantage in IQ. Since my injury happened at a time when I was producing copious amounts of work highly valued by captains of industry and was well on my way to becoming one (since achieved in my favored niche industry), and since I was smart and inclined to thinking about HBD, I probably am one of the few people to personally realize this dynamic. For most men, change will come slow and you won’t notice, but when you become sick over a period of just 30-60 days, you notice.

    So anyone wanting to maximize their career, should consider HCG or anything that will increase spermatogenesis; maybe LJ100. Give it a shot. Some people may notice that high spermatogenesis will increase the likelihood that a man will cheat on his woman and endanger the family unit. Under the system described above, this desire to cheat is moderated by a high IQ. For stupid people who cannot manage their impulses, high spermatogenesis may not be ideal since they will have no career or advanced hobbies. For intelligent men, the creativity it brings is worth the burden of having to remain faithful despite a desire to fuck 24/7.

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    • The massiveness of physiques favored by current bodybuilding judges is a fault, in the opinions of many who value aesthetics. The Ronnie Coleman’s and Kai Greenes who are simply bulk with little thought to aesthetic proportion have only come in to favor within the last 10-15 years.

      Classic physiques like 70s Arnold, Steve Reeves, Frank Zane (all white dudes) were far more appealing to the eye (yes, even the heterosexual eye) and they valued cut, shape and proportion more than pure bulk. They represented the pinnacle of male humanity, not some type of alien form.

      TLDR: Whites can compete in bodybuilding as long as the metric isn’t
      “look like a gorilla”.

      Although the cut look doesn’t preclude blacks for being competitve, obviously. Dexter Jackson for instance.

      [CH: i’ve heard this argument and i think it has merit.]

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      • kia greene, being a nice cat, is not well liked in pro ifbb world.

        his dancing monkey routine (sometimes) and gorilla stature is too much for the folks who wish to remain in human form.

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  82. Could it be that the latino “macho culture” itself was built unconsciously as a way to boost the testosterone? You know, “fake it till you make it”?

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  83. “Anyone felt a wee change in hamster behavior since the Ferguson shit started going down (a beta in the hand is better than two alphas in the bush?)”

    good point !

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  84. Note that CH did NOT title this thread “Testosterone Differences in Races.”

    Thats by design.

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    • I’ll let CH answer that crypto-conspiracy issue you seem to be raising…

      … and wiser heads than mine discern whether “Racial Differences” or “Differences in Race” are nuanced expressions. :duckface

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  85. I noticed that horses have a pretty good musculature and large schwanz as well.

    And even a smallish chimpanzee or baboon could kill a grown man.

    So… what was the point here again?

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  86. on August 19, 2014 at 9:18 am Hammer of Love

    Something to think about, is the racial composition of Special Forces units in the military, which require a spectrum of different traits, both physical and mental. Which race predominates ? Which races are suspiciously absent ?

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    • most of the dudes hanging out under the JSOC tent need to be thinkers first.

      Is my bias showing? hehehe.

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    • Hammer, the Special Forces units are overwhelmingly White, a fact leftists hate.

      Blacks in the military are overrepresented in non-combat jobs. They get a cushy government paycheck and can strut around the ‘hood in a uniform, claiming to be soldiers. Remember that the next time the media say that Blacks “serve” in the military in higher proportions than Whites.

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      • on August 21, 2014 at 9:19 pm Hammer of Love

        Yeah, I know. I was being rhetorical for our audience. There are few, if any, other races in the special forces. Must be, because whites are so weak and dumb.

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  87. Can we all agree that, without a not-insignificant measure of white admixture and/or white influence in re historical eugenic practices… and foremost, the ongoing benefits of living in a predominantly white society… all this talk about negro athletic superiority would be relegated to a few marathoners from eastern Africa?

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  88. On another note:

    Five minutes of dog beats five years of beta males. dailycaller.com/2013/05/31/cop…

    Why, that dogshark!

    On the bright side, at least it wasn’t a black lab.

    LZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLOZLOZLOZLOZL

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  89. on August 19, 2014 at 11:36 am AryanAbduction

    My observations at the gym have been a bit different. Asians, while generally small, seem to be the most concistently ripped. They also seem to do more olympic lifts than the norm.

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  90. That is truly surprising news about testoterone quantity and race. So surprising it’s hard to believe (perhaps the data is in error?). I only say this because I lived in Asia for a while, and aphrodisiacs are ubiquitous and expensive pretty much throughout all of Asia, which would indicate there is a market.

    They’ll eat or drink anything that they think has a chance of just possibly giving them a boner, and pay an exhorbitant price for it. There are likely some extinction events all based on Asian male erectile dysfunction.

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  91. Regarding the interesting comments on this thread:

    What is this new(ish) fad of discounting personal observation as being inadequate for personal decision making in lieu of some “expert, peer reviewed” study ad nauseum?

    Only thing I can think of is that its females and Third Gender males (fancy lads and metro poofsters) who lacking judgement and long term success in making decisions both cannot trust their own judgement and look for consensus.

    I mean, I know that car websites like Edmunds and Consumer Report etc. cater to the feminine (bury the bitches in data regarding things they don’t intrinsically understand like mechanical objects and they will believe anything you say, wont read it mind you, but just happy SOMEONE did the work), but it seems to be taking off like a rocket in cultural/social realms too.

    ponderous.

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  92. Funny how black harrasser commenters do what they’ve been doing since Château’s early days. Back then, we had a self-confessed low-t porn addict black commenter DA on a gibsmedats begging mission, a seething Talented Tenth blogger with anit-white passive aggression in every comment, and the king of them all Big O the Kraken.

    Now, we have … what you see here. The more things change… their common theme is the Black demand for liberation without separation.

    In r.l. convos they’d never be tolerated. On a blog, hard to keep them out without mod. However, on the positive side of things, they’re doing an entertaining jig. What’s the word, shuck n jive? Also, as I said earlier, open antagonism makes us sharper.

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    • OMG, he actually went to harrassment.

      Weak.

      WEAK.

      Nobody non Anglo knew we were truly unwanted here by the blogger until today. Now we know. You don’t have to worry about being “harassed” anymore, princess.

      [CH: nicole do you know what i hate worse than rampaging ghetto wildings? the emasculated white liberals who coddle them for pats on the back from their faggy cocktail circuit white liberal friends.]

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    • I used ‘harrasment’ in its military meaning, not its pop future/legal meaning.

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      • Pop culture

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      • These sort of nuances fly in sonic boom fashion over certain nappy haids… who just can’t wait to get an emasculating snark in edge-wise, and then wonder why no man wants to suffer gladly their insolence… ESPECIALLY given that there’s no redeeming physical qualities upon which to tolerate the shit tests.

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      • Well, you might encounter the odd internet do-gooder who actually gives a shit, but for the most part, WN blogs and sites are circle jerks.

        You worry too much.

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    • Black commenters are good for reminding us that they are our eternal enemy when the civil/race war starts.

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      • Yup… one-on-one, they’re “nice guys” or “one of the good ones”… but get them with their own, or enjoying the anonymity of forum posting, and the enmity between our respective seeds comes out in (ahem) spades.

        Pun intended.

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  93. “their common theme is the Black demand for liberation without separation….”

    huh ??? anyways…….

    What I find to be really interesting – even with the so called proliferation of “White Studies” etc… is that one can complete the entire traditional course of education up to the graduate level and never ever find the answer to a few basic questions:

    1. Where do “white” people come from ??? it certainly ain’t Europe..

    [CH: the same place everyone came from. cosmic dust.]

    2. Why are they “white” ?? there have been a number of theories but all debunked.

    [because white is right.]

    3. What happened to the original “black” inhabitants of Europe ?

    [they traded up.]

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm Hammer of Love

      ” What happened to the original “black” inhabitants of Europe ? ”

      Alright, ” you jumped the shark ” on that one. Whatever remaining credibility you had, just went out the window.

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      • Now I’m REALLY curious…

        What kind or amount of credibility did this n1663r EVER evince?

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 4:28 pm Hammer of Love

        Give me a minute , it’ll come to me. Wait, wait, …..

        Ah, shit, I can’t do it. I’ll need more time.

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    • Liberation without Separation describes Black nationalism.

      Normal forms nationalism takes is aggressive (conquest and control) or liberationist (separation and independence).

      Blacks are different, in that they want the benefits of conquest – aka gibsmedats- without the responsibility of control over tbeir conquered. Or, they want the freedom to be theyselfs without the separation that this would normally entail.

      [CH: parasite’s gonna parasite.]

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 4:29 pm Hammer of Love

        In other words, they love mother Africa, but none of them want to move there. Strange isn’t it ?

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    • 1. From God. God made everybody. There are Scientific answers, but in my opinion, they all indicate one thing – there is a Creator.

      2. I do not understand why the why are they white question? Why are there brown people, black people, yellow people etc.? Each adapted to the place they come from. Africans in West Africa have much melanin in the skin which protects against sun burn, skin cancer, etc. Living in hot climate would make this dark skin necessary. And wide nose, and thicker lips as a cooling mechanism, so the heat can be disseminated. (Thermodynamics.) It is the opposite for people from more cold climates.

      3. I do not know what happened to black inhabitants of Europe. I did not know that man of ancient Europe were black. Yes, there is evidence that there were blacks in 13th Century or something. But how do we know they were originally from Europe. This goes against what we know about the reason behind the different physical features of the races. Neanderthals may have been blue eyed.
      Even so, if the original black inhabitants of Europe WERE white, that was a long time ago, and man has clearly adapted since into different races, for which there seem to be reasons that they adapted according to the country the gathered in.

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    • Al you are an idiot. Send a black person to live in the coldest area for thousands of years and they will look white. People who bring up mixing with nethanderfal is irrelevant because that makes up less than 5 percent of asian/whites/everyone else but blacks genes. Blacks wont ever win because every race is leagues smarter than them. China is already stealing most of Africa’s resources as we speak.

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    • Where whites come from?

      1 – No matter if whites have blacks ancestors thus originated in Africa or were dropped here by space aliens it does not change the fact that the black community despite our best efforts still has a lot of problems ( higher rates of school drop outs, higher crime rates etc ) and seems incompatible with white man society. That is what matters.

      why are white white?

      2 – Well unless we were dropped here by space aliens we are white for the same reason you are black; that big yellow ball in the sky we call the SUN…
      More sun = darker skin, less sun = lighter skin. We have known that for a long long time.

      European blacks?

      3 – Maybe they walked back to Africa because they did not like the cold European winters …or white Europeans killed them all because they were fed up with the high crime rates? But so what? Knowing the answer will not fix all the problems we have and Europeans have with blacks and their high crime rates and other such undesirable “features”.

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  94. “The massiveness of physiques favored by current bodybuilding judges is a fault, in the opinions of many who value aesthetics.”

    A fault ?? why ?? because the Negroes dominate ??

    Aesthetics ?? you mean the one the Negroe keeps dominating ??

    the many who value aesthetics ?? Let me guess what they might look like ….

    apparently the only aesthetics you value is that produced by presence of the genetic defect that produces albinism and neanderthalian hybridity.

    Sounds like the original rational behind Jim Crow.
    Why compete with the Negroe and lose when we can rig the rules to ensure permanent victory.

    PS: Phil Heath is no joke !

    [CH: you do realize albinism has nothing to do with the eurasian genes that were fixed by natural and sexual selection? or are you just a stupid nagger?]

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  95. Hammer,

    the original homo sapien inhabitants of Europe came from Africa in at least 3 major points. Gibraltar, North Africa to the Mediterranean Isles, and through the Levant.

    The fossil record prove this. See Grimaldi Man. Negroe. The original cave dwellers and painters: Negroe. They even left evidence of their love for the
    big booty. steatopygia. Venus carvings.

    Before “Whites” showed up, the inhabitants of Europe proper were Negroe.
    Even the Mediterranean types (Greek and Italian) show low percentage Negro DNA – which represent the ancestral DNA of the original occupants of the area.

    So. What happened to all those Negroes …. ??????

    PS: don’t get mad at me. blame the public school education system and white supremacy for fostering so many lies and obfuscation about history.

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    • Greeks and Italians do have some percentage Negro DNA. (According to wikipedia anyway), but it is so low as to negligent.

      The fact that that DNA is so low, proves that whites have done something right by making it so minuscule percentage. The Europeans formed their own people, and built Western civilization.

      *And I do not mean they did something right because I am racist. I mean they built a great race.

      Why is it of such importance of the color of skin of ancient man? It is clear that there are now different races adapted to different continents. Talk of how original inhabitants were negro is inconsequential, because whites built their own race after that, and achieved a lot. As Blacks should be proud of Africa. What is wrong of being proud of one’s race?

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    • the “better monkey” argument.

      fascinating!

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    • Afrocentrism makes any alleged lies and obfuscations that can be laid at the doorstep of any “white supremacy” educational system pale in comparison.

      Pun intended, Sambo.

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 4:43 pm Hammer of Love

      ” The fossil record prove this. See Grimaldi Man. Negroe. ”

      You cite two pairs of skeletal remains to back up your theory, which have a debatable interpretation to boot ??

      ” Grimaldi Man:
      The nasal bones gave a high nasal bridge, like that of Cro-Magnons and modern Europeans and very unlike more tropical groups. The two rises of the frontal bone in the forehead was separate rather than forming a single median rise, another European trait. The cranial capacity was also quite large for their size. Brain size correlate strongly with total muscle mass in humans, indicating the two would have been well muscled in life, rather than having the slender build usually seen in tropical people ”

      What about the Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals, who were already present in Europe for thousands of years. Additionally, modern humans are Homo-Sapiens, Judging by the description of Grimaldi Man above, he was not Homo Sapien, are you implying Africans are a separate group, and not of the modern human variety ?
      I can go with that.

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      • Grimaldi man is an interesting example of how the white supremacy system refines itself thru the use of language rather than direct violence or the destruction of property although the effects are the same.

        When first discovered in Italy, the white researchers said they were “negroid” based on skeletal measurements.

        But later they deny it by using the same measurement to claim the data is inconclusive.

        See how that works?

        So called HBD pumpers are always claiming race can be determined from skeletal measurments; except I guess when the skeleton is 40,000 year old found in Italy and looks like it came from a “negroid?”

        White people probably destroy them when they find them.

        They probably destroy a lot of stuff.

        Quest for Fire.

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      • Quest for Relevancy.

        And stop projecting negro corruption onto whites… if anything, whites are fastidious in their scientific pursuits, the Germanics being so especially… often to a fault.

        And unless the scientific world turned 180 degrees since I was in school, Cro-Magnon was definitely NOT negroid, and had a larger brain capacity on average than even modern whites… 1600 cc, if memory serves.

        So all this talk about Neaderthal this, Cro-Magnon that is merely grist for the shakin’ o’ haids… non-negroid haids, I might add. lzozlzolzozlozl

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm Hammer of Love

      ” Even the Mediterranean types (Greek and Italian) show low percentage Negro DNA – which represent the ancestral DNA of the original occupants of the area. ”

      Ever hear of war rape, colonization, or low level immigration?

      The level of genetic percentages, based on ancestry, would be huge if those people descended from Africans. What about those “black” Vikings, how much African genes do they have ?

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      • Hammer, lets get something straight. There are only 4 letters in the DNA alphabet. There is no “black DNA and white DNA”, there is just human DNA. Are there differences in base pairs between Nigerians and Swedes?

        Yeah.

        But there are also base pair differences between you and your mom.

        Should we hang your mom from a tree?

        What is your blood type?

        (Mine is “O” which stands for ORIGINAL BLACK MAN)

        If your blood is “A” or “B” it is still blood and works the same way; its just not as good as mine.

        But Im not gonna hang you from a tree because of it, or get Anders Brevik on yo ass…

        I predict in the future you white nationalists are gonna get burned by all your DNA boosterism because they are gonna find a DNA link between some super white blond/blue eye white people in Finland and some coal blue/black black people in the Sahell.

        When it happens Im gonna cum 5 times while you cry into your keyboard.

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      • Thwack,

        even if it turned out whites and blacks have the same DNA, blacks still have crime rates that are from 5 to 50 times higher than whites ( depending on the region ) and they still have on average lower IQs and dozens of other problems that we whites spend billions of dollars trying to fix in hope we can lift blacks to our level ( so far it is not working, in fact the opposite is happening, the black community is sinking lower despite all we do for it )

        When I see statistics on crime per race I don’t think; ” well we all have the same DNA and we all bleed red so it is ok that blacks murder people like its a sport!”

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 9:42 am Hammer of Love

        Thwack:

        I’m done trying to talk with you, as you never address any points or questions, that I bring up. You just start babbling about some feel-good hippy relativist bullshit. Human’s closest genetic relative in the animal world is the chimpanzees, does that me we’re all chimps because we share 98% of our genes with them ?

        Anyhow, stop commenting on my posts, and I’ll do likewise.

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      • Hammer, he won’t take your deal because he’s not here to discuss. He’s here to harass.

        See above for my exanation of “harassment” here being a military term for hit-n-run attacks intended to disrupt and to demoralize, not “harassment” used in its common or legal sense.

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 6:23 pm Hammer of Love

        “Hammer, he won’t take your deal because he’s not here to discuss. He’s here to harass. ”

        I understand man. It’s my fault thought. For a brief moment I thought there was at least some black men with intellectual capacity, and basic logical sense. It wont happen again. I’m done we these substandard fools, the sooner the final battle comes, the better. They polluted our racial space with their presence long enough.

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      • You young paduans are FINALLY learning that it’s a fool’s errand to address these darky inanities with anything BUT drive-by mockery and disdain?

        Go then… and make disciples on all forums.

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      • Hammer of Love
        Thwack:

        I’m done trying to talk with you, as you never address any points or questions, that I bring up. You just start babbling about some feel-good hippy relativist bullshit. Human’s closest genetic relative in the animal world is the chimpanzees, does that me we’re all chimps because we share 98% of our genes with them ?
        ———————————————————————————————–

        Im sorry I annoy you Hammer but there needs to be a moratorium on all DNA references until you people take the time to study and understand the mechanics and extreme complexity of the phenomenon.

        Materialist, reductionalist descriptions of matter and energy evolving from the simple to complex do not explain the medium where the information is stored and/or how it is transmitted; and most importantly,
        what produces it.

        Can I really know you if you can’t, don’t and/or won’t reveal yourself to me?

        Are you a person?

        or a collection of unguided, mindless, random, chemical bonds, molecules, routines and subroutines attempting to be “white?”

        What is the purpose of a white person?

        I really don’t know what that is?

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    • Supremacies do not impose on themselves race replacement or in other words; a slow suicide.

      Supremacies kill or kick out the unwanted; we whites bring you here by the boat load, we give you citizenship, we give you food stamps and free healthcare and we give you Affirmative Action so you can take the place a more qualified white deserves in a college or at a job

      We punish ourselves ( food stamp programs cost to tax payers in the USA is above $100 Billion and still growing every year…whites are so stingy right?) to support mostly Blacks and Hispanics.

      We created laws that are unfair to whites and whites only ( How many Black Donald Sterling have been fined millions for saying unpleasant words about whites??? )

      We are not even allowed to complain about this suicidal-race-replacement!… which is why we do it anonymously here otherwise we could lose our jobs and have our reputation destroyed yet you blacks can call us crackers all you want or write songs in which you say you want to kill white people, even do it on tv and you will get congratulated for it

      Everything we do benefits non-whites and is detrimental to the white race.

      Not only do we bend over backwards to make sure our race, the white race is being replaced and will soon be close to extinct but we SUBSIDIZE this! we pay for our own suicide with our hard earned tax dollars!!

      Yet you call this a white Supremacy?

      Anyone who says there is a white supremacy is SUPREMELY dishonest or SUPREMELY stupid.

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  96. I can’t speak to actual test levels scientifically, but the most athletic, muscular and sexy guys I’ve seen have been Brazilian, mostly of south Euro heritage with maybe minute levels of indio and/or black mixed in (at most 12-15% I’d guess, but frequently less than that or zero). Whether this is because of a culture of athletics/beach, widespread steroid use, or has some genetic component, I don’t know, but I guarantee you, as a lover of the male physique, that the place where you most frequently see impressive male physiques is in Brazil. I am talking of seeing one every two or three minutes, as opposed to seeing a great physique once or twice a day in the USA (Blacks btw are prone to obesity even among men, not just women. From my own experiences with blacks and from observing them abroad, I have to conclude that the supposed physical and sexual prowess of black men is mostly a myth made up by Americans for bizarre reasons. I say this without resentment, because in fact if black men were what they are advertised to be, it would make my sexual life much easier.)

    I think American white men could achieve a similar level of beautiful physicality as white and whiteish Brazilians, but in general they don’t because very few in fact work out, test use is still rare, and because they’ve browbeaten themselves into being beta. SWPL males also self-punish with marathons and vegetarianism. Among whites, it seems that Scandinavians and the Iberians have the most impressive men in terms of beauty and physicality. Scandinavians by the way will tan to a deep brown if they choose to.

    The problem with Asian men is not just the poor muscle tone and weak attitude, but also the smell. I am convinced there is something about the Asian male smell that is repulsive. To me at least, and maybe to girls as well. I am speaking of northeast Asians, mainly Chinese, as Mongols and southeast Asians are different.

    The most inadequate males sexually and physically are the Indian subcontinentals and the Central American Indians. While I make no rules about who to have sex with based on race, I can’t imagine a circumstance in which I would sexually submit to such a male. And I can’t understand women who do, or how these races manage to propagate themselves.

    I think Polynesian men would rank very high in all ways (physical, sexual, manliness, attitude) but they have been admixed with all kinds of other races and they are prone to obesity and dullness today. The historical description of the pure Polynesian upper classes by European explorers, however, make them out to be beautiful and superhuman, and occasionally you may still see such a specimen (maybe The Rock, although he’s also mixed with mulatto).

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    • well those that come from india and china are typically the dorky beta it guys. The alphas are at home. But notice the western born are much better and have more aggressive. Like indians around my area wanna be tuf thanx to Bindy Johal. Plus they look better not talking bollywood looks(Hritik Roshan Salman Khan etc) but something like Naveen Andrews(not mixed just christian name) or Ian Hanmonsing or some uk asian media stars. But most would look somethng like Amir Khan the boxer or Apach indian in terms of facial features. But they are willing to work out here similar to say Jay Sean. Plus seeing asian guys stepping up their game here.
      Hit up London

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  97. Blacks have the same testosterone levels as whites, however they have significantly higher ESTROGEN LEVELS.241.

    “Contrary to the postulated racial difference, testosterone concentrations did not differ notably between black and white men. However, blacks had higher estradiol levels”

    “testosterone concentrations were not different between non-Hispanic blacks (n = 363; geometric mean, 5.29 ng/ml) and non-Hispanic whites (n = 674; 5.11 ng/ml; P > 0.05) but were higher in Mexican-Americans (n = 376; 5.48 ng/ml; P < 0.05). Non-Hispanic blacks (40.80 pg/ml) had a higher estradiol concentration than non-Hispanic whites (35.46 pg/ml; P < 0.01) and Mexican-Americans (34.11 pg/ml; P < 0.01)."

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17456570

    "African-American community has highest percentage of 'LGBT' adults in U.S"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220120/White-people-likely-gay-Huge-study-reveals-highest-proportion-homosexual-people-African-American-community.html

    Most of the minority of whites who love cuckold are from America. This is probably due to low self-esteem and media image of how black men are portrayed. It is mainly a white American man fetish.

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    • John

      Blacks have the same testosterone levels as whites, however they have significantly higher ESTROGEN LEVELS.241.
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      Thats because IN THE BEGINING, when God created the ORIGINAL black man, he included the ingredients for woman in the black man. Later, when it was time to make woman, God tried to take a rib from the black man and a fight broke out.

      God won, but he didn’t get ALL of the woman ingredients out of the black man.

      This is why we still have nipples; this is why ni66ers have a shoe fetish. This is why I hafta slap the bitch out of myself every morning when I wake up.

      But the white man tore himself away from the process of gestation because he was in a race:

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      • An African-Centered Critique Of European Cultural Thought and Behavior?

        Hold off a minute… I’m just finishing up my Rabbinical Commentary On Germanic Culture & History series.

        But yours is next on my viewing list… promise!

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  98. John Stockton. 6’1″, 171 lbs., white, from Spokane, Washington. 19,711 pts (#41 all time), .8261 free throw% (#102 all time), 15806 assists (#1 all time), 3265 steals (#1 all time), 1504 games played (#3 all time). Only NBA player to lead two statistical categories (steals and assists). Only missed 23 games in 19 seasons. 10x all-star, member of 1992 Olympic gold medal winning USA basketball team, NBA hall of fame. He also put da white bunz in da white oven http://ldsliving.com/images/stories/large/12735.jpg

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  99. That hapless Cop (Nelson/Wilson/whatever his name was.the one entrapped in the in the Ferfuson Missouri CF clearly had absorbed an extremely dangerous amount of physical damage — as the helpless, small, young child named Michael Brown was just being his authentic himself.
    Listen up… An orbital fracture is a way station on the way to a fatal head injury, If hit A little less hard and you are just made permanently blind and helpless.
    This kind of attack justifies any response. .. They are two kinds of people,.. Some get this after one explanation. Far too many will never get it no many how many explanations are given.

    .

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  100. There is a well proven method for upgrading your testicular health — Kill your enemies, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.

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  101. I think this might be one of your worst articles yet and I am a fan. The data you got was not only bogus, but your conclusions are far from correct. Whites and asians actually hold more olympic weightlifting wins than blacks do. So I find it hard to believe that they are “stronger”. Blacks do have speed and jumping ability which is a given. That comes from their legs. Upper body strength I would give to white people more often than not. Asians can be quick and nimble too but almost always have a height disadvantage.

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  102. And.most important of all: Put buns.in those ovens !

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  103. Something interesting you could have brought up though is that blacks use to dominate boxing. They made up like 90 percent of boxers, BUT TODAY they only make up around 50 percent of the league. So what happen to blacks dominating boxing?

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    • Eastern Europeans could only complete as Amateurs until recently. That’s basically my opinion on it. Sport is an indulgence in a society of plenty.

      Fishing, shooting, riding, climbing, swimming are essentially martial skills and are vastly more important than bouncing a ball around.

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    • i think that’s more an issue with top black athletes gravitating to more popular sports at a young age, especially one where fame/success/money is relatively more prevalent & lucrative, such as bball and football.

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  104. Last post. I think Russians/slavics are above blacks on average. And taking African Americans is best of blacks. European blacks don’t seem to match up well in their european sports. Soccer germany team that won the world cup was mostly white.

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  105. I wrestled in high school, and evolved to be pretty good. Not state champ good, but like 3rd-5th place at the State Tournament in a wrestling state good (if you wrestled you’ll likely know which states these are.

    I’m an exceedingly pale white guy, btw.

    There aren’t a lot of black guys in the sport of wrestling for some reason. But there are a few. As a guy who has wrestled these guys, I can relate my direct experience. Wrestling will allow you to get a sense of a person’s physical fitness and potential like no other sport will.

    Without exception, all of the black wrestlers were cut if not ripped (except for the rare fat, black heavyweight wrestler – almost all heavyweights are fat). Low weights = cut, higher weights = ripped. There was very little discernible body fat and always an intimidating amount of visible muscle on any black wrestler that was150 lbs or above and below heavyweight.

    Here’s the thing:

    The amount of muscle that they had, no matter how ridiculously top heavy that they looked, didn’t translate into strength about 50% of the time. Half of the time, these guys, despite crazy looking musculature, would be what we in the sport of wrestling would deem to be “fish”. The term “fish” refers to guys with little strength or who can be pinned at will due to low skill. Sometimes their skill was low, but a lot of the time the strength just didn’t match the muscle tone.

    Other blacks guys would have great explosive strength in the beginning, but would begin to lose when it was time for strength endurance. These guys were always quick, but then you could turn them or get them to make mistakes in later rounds as they burnt out or when explosive, quick movements became less relevant.

    The third, more rare, type.was a guy who was actually crazy strong. These guys were always quick as well, and would place in tournaments, but I would hardly ever see them win a significant tournament. Though, they could place 3rd-5th in a state tournament. They would occasionally win lesser tournaments, though.

    I’m not sure how some black guys can look so strong and yet be so weak (perhaps they have explosive strength that they didn’t know how to properly use). I would wrestle against white guys at 150-160 lbs who had some decent but non-impressive muscle tone, almost always buried under a thin layer of subcutaneous fat that blacks never exhibited. What would often happen is that I would underestimate the dominant strength of a white guy that looked completely ordinary, and in doing so they would occasionally own me. Only perhaps 20% of white wrestlers were like this, and those that were likely just had a good weightlifting routine, but those wrestlers were frustrating. For context, I was named “strongest wrestler” on my team one year at 160 lbs. I’m naturally strong, and would occasionally get owned by guys whose muscle tone was not entirely obvious. A strong black guy was always obvious.

    We would occasionally practice with wrestling teams from an inner-city neighborhood. Those teams had a lot of mixed race Hispanics. They pretty much adhered to the black pattern of being very quick, explosive, and cut. However, they had more heart on average. They tended to be tough. A lot of them would have been good wrestlers should they have had attended summer camps and, perhaps, had better coaching.

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    • “didn’t translate into strength”

      I was shocked to step into the gym with my African friend a few months ago. He is shorter and looks ripped. I have skinny arms and don’t look nearly as ripped in the chest. We were at a similar level conditioning-wise but visually, he looked in much better shape.

      Neither of us had bench pressed for a long time. With no training for either of us, I was much stronger naturally on the bench press.

      However, he had been training push-ups and can do a lot more push-ups than me.

      Go figure.

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      • While true, that’s much more a matter of speed and skill than functional strength.
        If it were an arm wrestling match, my money would be on Kimbo.

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      • Kimbo slice was always a perplexing mystery to me as to why he got famous. The only fights I ever saw him in-even the supposed “underground” fights—he lost. I guess because he was in those pornos where he was the “bodyguard” for a lot of slutty porn chicks going to a “club.” nOTE: He isn’t a pron performer in them, just an extra with a cameo with his clothes on.

        In short, Kimbo’s long on “scary black man” looks, very short on fighting skill.
        Which sums up black men nicely as a group.

        rape!

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      • Anderson is overrated as fuck but Kimbo isn’t exactly what I would call a professional fighter.

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    • Definitely true.
      Just look at Bodybuilding vs Strongman and competitive powerlifting. Plenty of black bodybuilders, but very few black guys.in Strongman and powerlifting.

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    • I will concur, but my experience was limited. I was a high school wrestler, but my league was very non-black as a demographic (thank the lord!). The few blacks in wrestling were weak as a rule; my team actually had a few blacks who WERE good wrestlers, but they were in personality and intelligence just some dudes who happened to be black–i.e. nothing ghetto about them, wanted to be civilized, etc. The Clarence Thomas types–the black 1%. One had a white father, the other two had light-skinned parents (i.e. passed the paper bag test).

      As a side note, it’s funny how ghetto thugs aren’t good at two sports that would seem to be easy pickings for poor dudes: wrestling and tennis.

      Wrestling is as old as mankind, even older, since before humanity our primitive ancestors were fighting via wrestling, and most street fights devolve into wrestling/grappling matches. What is more, you need no equipment for wrestling (well maybe the headpiece for your cauliflower ears, lol), so it’s a poor dudes dream.

      As to tennis, all you need is a racket and a wall, and you can make awesome money just capitalizing on fast twitch muscles. Face it: Andy Roddick’s nailing awesome pussy and making boatloads and yet can still walk into a mall and not be mobbed.

      I have a feeling it has to do with with lack of long-windedness. West Africans suck at long-distance runniing–it’s the tiny east africans who dominate long distance running, and they were never slaves in the U.S. Tennis is an hours-long event, and gassing is common. Wrestling, despite the seeming short time frame (3 periods of 2-minutes each) you have your entire opponent’s body weight on you the whole time while you’re trying to get on top of him. That’s incredibly draining.

      Perhaps it’s that West Africans are better at dishing out quick hits due to fast twitches? In tennis, the stamina factor wears them down. in Wrestling, you can’t hit anybody, but you have to maneuver them.

      On my wrestling team the most successful black dude would only win if he could do a big, crowd-pleasing move early in the match—i.e. a fast twitch maneuver, like a big slam. After that, he gassed, and had to rely on stalling tactics.

      The williams sisters and Arthur ash and Pablo Gonzalez are the tennis exceptions, but Ashe was a just a gay white dude in a black body, Gonzalez is from the 1940s, and the Williams sisters had the stage parent syndrome.

      In wrestling, you have Keith Jackson, who is, again, basically a midwestern white dude in a black body. Any other successful UFC dudes who ar black are strikers who need an early knockout to win, otherwise they lose at grappling.

      Of course, it could ust be UFC knowing its audience and keeping the darkies down to keep the ratings up.

      Rape!

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  106. Jon one point no one seems to comment the main reason white bodybuilders tan is because darker skin does help your muscles show up more. So that is one thing to consider about blacks.

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    • I get it, but I’m not talking about that type of difference. I’m talking about the large difference that comes with actual pounds of muscle. Remember, wrestlers become experts in body composition and we spend a lot of time in singlets. I have an eye for muscle under pale skin and can tell the actual difference between pale muscle, accentuated muscle and real muscle differences. Besides, as I before stated, the blacks to which I was referring were pretty big.

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      • Pound for pound, the little Asian is probably the strongest man with little Africans running a close 2nd. On a small bowl of rice, 2 sardines and some coconut milk per day and some roaches; most of us probably would lose our ability to get an erection.

        Meanwhile, Victor Charlie walked 19 miles thru dense jungle, barefoot, dug a 100 yard tunnel under all your claymores, dogs and barbed wire, and is gonna toss satchel charges into all your hooches as soon as it get dark.

        In other words, how strong are you when the food and water runs out?

        If you don’t have what the white people refer to as “mental toughness” all the muscle mass in the world ain’t gonna do you no good; you might as well start duckin fights like Greg Eliot.

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      • It’s looking like I’ve expanded my living quarters in thwack’s haid… yet still rent free!

        For claiming gettin’ ducked, looks more like y’all gettin’ goosed.

        lzozlzozlzolzolzolzolzol

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      • Yeah, East Asians tended toward a high degree of toughness as wrestlers. They’d wrestle at lower weights, be quick, would seemingly always have a higher repertoire of moves (a lot of legs) and would place at tournaments. Arguably, the best wrestler on my team was the only Korean. We had one other east Asian, though, and he was the biggest fish on the team. No mental toughness nor muscle. In general, though, they tended to be tough.

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  107. But then I’d look like the world’s loser race.

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  108. on August 21, 2014 at 9:15 pm Hammer of Love

    I finally found it. This should explain the differences in testosterone between the races. Nicole, Thwack, and Al should be very approving of this theory.

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  109. I have a question for you heartise. How much advantage will blacks when China prefects genetic engineering. They can take best of both parents genes and give you son with strongest genes.

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  110. Reblogged this on Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar and commented:
    Evolution by climate and predation.
    Northern – hardier. Southern – faster.

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  111. Has Heartiste just confused hispanics with indians?

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