Spot The Alpha

The evidence:

Man in the back left can hardly contain his joy. Or his perforated ulcer. His fingers grip his super-sized prize like a rock climber dangling from a cliff face with no rope. He’s not about to let her tip over and capsize into her friend. After all, what is better in life than a fat chick with no tits?

Man in the back right is more composed, and maintains a firmer grip on his ballast. He seems fairly aware of the load capacity of his lumberjack arms and cornfed quads, and glows with the inner peace of a zen master who has touched the face of a semi-cute chick with his peen without ever having to touch her porky wet hole with it.

Girl in the front left is straining under the weight (heh) of her phony smile. She despises her reproductive partner, her grotesque starch bomb body, her life. But she loves her BBBFF who always makes her feel special and loved and free to be Princess Gluttony. Her dress sparkles because she knows how to attract the attention of horny military boys with alcoholic astigmatism.

Girl in the front right smiles naturally, smokes and drinks from a red solo cup. She has stuffed her carcass into a slinky cocktail dress meant for women half her size. She exudes self-confidence. Clearly, she is American. She likes her man and has taken many of his loads betwixt her fat girl ta tas. She is destined to cheat on him with a black man.

The conclusion:

The girl in the front right is the alpha male. Remember what the alpha male signifies: He is the man with options, who is dating “out of his league”, according to conventional metrics of date worthiness. Judging by this photo, the man who has made out like a bandit happens to be a woman.

And isn’t that modern society in a nutless-shell? An alpha male woman smothering the life out of a man who can do better, but won’t.





Comments


  1. And they would probably be cute if they weren’t huge. The US department of agriculture should be disbanded until Americans average weight goes down 40lbs (and even then it should stay disbanded) and there should be a BMI test for food stamps and tax payer lunches(Just kidding, there shouldn’t be food stamps and taxpayer lunches)

    I was recently in Vegas and was shocked how thin everybody was until people started speaking. All foreign. (And holy hell there are a lot of Asians who visit Vegas)

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    • on August 13, 2013 at 3:31 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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    • on August 14, 2013 at 1:04 am AlmostAnonymous

      It is to weep.

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    • Was recently traveling in Asia for a while (as a european). The pretty much coherent view on america I got from asians who had been traveling/studying in the US was that “I love the country, hate the people, they are ugly”.

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    • CH, let me try this again. This is a good comment dude.

      The thing is, these fatties are very typical and common among 18 and 19 year old college girls today. And with cute faces, they actually do think they are hot stuff, with their elephant thighs and all.

      A lot guys, even betas, have standards. I’ve been with about 20 girls as I’ve posted here many times, and none of them were even half as big as these land manatees. I literally choose to have no woman before I’d be with them. It’s gross. Lots of greater betas are like me.

      This is why I have trademarked the phrase “justified one-itus.” These fatties and the fact that *most* girls younger than 28 today are like them raise the buying price of real 7s and 8s, who are much more rare today than they were 20 years ago in the early 1990s when I went to college. When I went to college, *most* girls there had hard bodies and the *worst* girls were butter faces – still thin and hot.

      Today, when a beta finds an 8 who is available at the time and likes him, it justifies one-itus. That girl indeed—not that she’s done all that much to earn it—is “special.” More special than she would have been 20 years ago. So when I have a GF who’s an 8…a girl who has worked out and has truly awesome, perfect legs, a perfect tummy….womanly shaped but firm…ya…that’s rare dude. It is. It’s hard to replace that when *most* girls one find are like the land whales in that photo.

      You have written on this subject too using slightly different words (justifying why you ruthlessly make fun of fatties—they are not being fair to any of us).

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    • really good material for you here CH. read this!!!! the point is that this stupid bitch is simply a TYPICAL 24 year old American girl today.

      http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/13/3560437/staffer-for-miami-mayoral-candidate.html

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    • So, is everyone on here an asshole, or is it just the comment and article sections? Any place that assumes that there is a group of people that is inherently better than others, be they ‘betas’ of overweight people, needs to wake the fuck up and realize that this sort of bridge-burning bullshit will last MAYBE a few years, if they’re lucky, before their life comes crashing down around them. Of course by that point they’ll blame women, betas or anyone else that isn’t them for it.

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      • Everyone here is an asshole unfortunately

        And no before anyone assumes, I’m not fat, and I have a boyfriend

        [CH: But do you do anal? Aye, there’s the rub.]

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  2. i kind of could see her face being cute, but if she quits smoking she’ll balloon further, and i’m sure she won’t quit til her skin’s shot. there’s no salvation in that photo

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    • I don’t get it – I thought that chicks smoked precisely because the nicotine helped to sooth the hunger pangs so that they could stay skinny?

      I.e. classically the devil’s quandary was in making the choice: Smoker but skinny -vs- Non-Smoker but pudgy.

      But if she’s an orca AND she’s got filthy stinking smokestack breath, then hey, let’s just add a nice disgusting virulent puss-oozing scab-encrusted case of anal warts for the perfect troika.

      The sad thing is that she’s not all that hideous, and if she had the strength of character to ditch the smokes and to put herself on the “Criss Gets Fit” diet, then she’d present a really tight package to potential suitors:

      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/08/01/sexual-market-value-boosted-one-shed-pound-at-a-time/

      But, yeah, guys have got to put the foot down, and say, “No way” to these Orcas.

      “No dick for you, honey, until you shed a good 30 lbs for me. Sorry. Now go away.”

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    • Puritan.

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    • Yeah, when he asked who the alpha was, I was thinking to myself he must be smoking, or I fail to see what he is seeing int eh posture of one of the men laughing his ass off in the background. I was not thinking the woman. Honestly, I am still not thinking the big tittied land whale.

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  3. The alpha male in this situation is the guy at home beating off to redtube. This looks more like a pig show than a party.

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  4. lzozlozlzlz hover the pointer on the pic to see the name of the foto zlozolzozlz

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  5. Why would the girl on the left “despise her reproductive partner”? Because she would despise any guy who lowered himself to date her?

    If so… I don’t know. I think a lot of American girls this size sincerely believe it’s a healthy weight and believe if they have a pretty face, men should be attracted to them.

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    • are you fat amy?

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    • Women of this weight still eye skinny girls enviously though. So, I wonder if they really think being this weight is healthy and accepted.

      Think about it, clothes don’t sit nice on you when you’re this fat. Nice clothes are cut for skinny women. These girls could only wear a dress cut like a sack, which what these dresses look like. Admittedly, skinny girls look great in a sack too. So, these dresses would have rocked on women size 2 or 4.

      Bottom line, they know they are fat and are happy as can be (if not sneering as well) because some low-status guys are dating them.

      Where does CH find these pics that always tell a thousand words.

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      • Yes, but I think it matters where in the US they live. In my previous job I traveled to the midwest and south a lot. It’s incredible how many people are overweight– seriously, in some areas it seems 9 out of 10 are. Over time I wonder if this just becomes the norm for them because it’s what they see every day. If so, these girls may believe they truly deserve these guys…. whereas if they lived in Manhattan or LA they’d have a very different perspective of their attractiveness.

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      • I would agree with you to a point…and it is only because these fat women only have other fat women to compare themselves with….so yeah, a 150lb 22 year old with a really pretty face (like the girl in the right) does all right for herself and feels pretty good about life.

        However, it is still the case that thin girls cause them an epic amount of self loathing, as is evidenced by the herds of large and in charge mammas coming down to South Beach, only to spend the entirety of their vacation sneering at the thin locals and pulling at their shirts, Picard-style.

        So I think in the back of their minds they know they are not all that….just the best these dudes can get within their geographical limits.

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      • Unless they’re really short, there’s no way these chicks are only 150 pounds (yes, I said only). I sadly have weighed 150 pounds at one point in my life (I’m 5’5 and fortunately, now at a more reasonable 130) and I never looked THAT fat. I’d guess that these chicks are clocking in at closer to 170.

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    • Why would the girl on the left “despise her reproductive partner”? Because she would despise any guy who lowered himself to date her?

      Yes.

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    • Well, men are attracted to them – as a novelty.

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    • “If so… I don’t know. I think a lot of American girls this size sincerely believe it’s a healthy weight and believe if they have a pretty face, men should be attracted to them.”

      A few points :
      – The key word : “believe”
      – That weight isn’t healthy
      – Even an healthy weight (far less than them) isn’t necessarily attractive.
      – A pretty face isn’t fat, they could have one if they lost some weight
      – A man should nothing, a man does what he wants.

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      • Yes, of course. I was just pointing out that these girls might not despise their partners for having high value, because they might believe they are high value themselves. I’m not saying I agree with them.

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  6. Suddenly an urge to smoke a pork shoulder on the grill.

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  7. Lawdy, how do such large girls get into such little dresses?

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  8. You Mu’s sure know how to party!

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    • dammit i hope you know that movie as retro novelty and not from living through it as a kid like me. pan down!

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      • I was more of a hood in high school, although I did play sports.

        The word “nerd” hadn’t really been used yet… we used the term “Poindexters”… but even a few of us “outsiders” were unashamedly smart… not über-geniuses like Damon in Good Will Hunting, but pretty much the same attitude.

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      • We’ve got bush… we’ve got bush!

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  9. on August 13, 2013 at 3:01 pm Stg58/Animal Mother

    Is this like “Spot the Loony”?

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  10. I agree. Objectively they guys are hotter than the girls however the guys will be dumped and abandoned (to their luck) because deep inside the girls know they can get something better and of course there will always be a whale hunter with his harpoon ready to take her home.

    And that is the problem girls SMV is overinflated to the limits. Despite men are the ones judging a girl’s SMV, they start with some points ahead of whatever value you assign them.

    Sad … these girls should be invisible to anyone until they become real, attractive women.

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  11. “I was recently in Vegas and was shocked how thin everybody was until people started speaking. All foreign. (And holy hell there are a lot of Asians who visit Vegas)”

    I was just in Zion NP. Half the people there are from Europe. The weight contrast between Europeans and Americans is shocking. Made me want to hit the gym.

    9/10 if I heard a foreign language in a female voice behind me, when I turned around it was a woman I wanted to bang.

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    • 100% This, although, having visited Vegas many times I can tell you that even the ‘Merican chicks there are WAY above average. Vegas is a city that attracts the attractive, like LA. So a Vegas 7 is a hard 9 elsewhere, just like LA. But yes, there are a shitload of foreigners there too, and they are far dumber than the DC variety to boot which makes for fairly easy bangs if that is your thing.

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  12. Never date an American woman( of any race).

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  13. MAN THE HARPOONS!

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  14. I think all fat Americans should be forced to move to Somalia for like a couple of years, and the Somalis should move to America, and then after a couple of they both can return to their respective countries, once they loose/gain weight.

    The Americans will also be more grateful for the stuff they have, and the Somalis would realize how f**ed their country really is.

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  15. Nuthin’ worse, wood-wise, than a chubby girl with no bosom to speak of…

    Nuthin’!

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    • I call this sub-species the “Flatso”.

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      • on August 13, 2013 at 7:54 pm depressed_danny

        They really need to make a Nature documentary about fat skags with a stoic British announcer narrating it.

        “Here you see two heavy stone women in their native summer environment, the small town house party. During colder months they can be found snoring in the male dorms at mid to lower tier universities. The red headed Alpha of the group has landed her mate for the evening by seducing him with her over large breasts, pinning him down with her lumpy buttocks so he cannot flee should common sense overtake him. The lesser Beta female, the flatso, has secured a lesser mate, though one still far above her stature – as is normal, in the wilderness of the American Matriarchy. The Alpha female is enjoying a cigarette and a light beer which she will then pass off to the Beta when she is ready to take her mate inside to have difficult sex with. She will soak the blankets with her sweat and various other fluids and after a night of spooning, she will sniff out the most sugary breakfast in the home and leave the house a mess for the parents of the lesser mate she dominated to clean up after her. As for the Beta female, the flatso, she decided not to have sex with her chosen mate of the evening – instead, she wound up at home attempting to text a man of high stature who let her give him oral sex once. He did not reply, and she then pleasured herself with a vibrator.”

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      • Jesus, dude, that’s some shiznat right there.

        I swear there’s the writing talent at The Chateau alone to fuel two or three cable channels of Manosphere programming, 24×7.

        PS: You didn’t plagiarize it, did you?

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      • on August 15, 2013 at 7:31 am depressed_danny

        “PS: You didn’t plagiarize it, did you?”

        Lol thanks; and no, 100% off the top of the head – but you don’t exactly need to be Homer-esque to write documentary narration. Also a useless degree in English helps. My prof would be so proud I’m using my talents to enrich the comment sections of game blogs.

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      • For the record, Homeric. 😉

        (loved that word ever since hearing it, Irish-style, in The Quiet Man.)

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      • on August 15, 2013 at 9:26 pm depressed_danny

        I can’t use Homeric in conversation – I talk too fast. People would blink and look at me cock eyed, saying;

        “Did you just say you don’t need to be homoerotic to write documentary narration?”

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  16. If there’s an alpha in the pic, it’s got to be the dude way in the back and center standing next to what looks like a thin hottie.

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  17. Trick question: the alpha is the photographer, who’s laughing his ass off

    “Let me get a pic of this fat person support group — LIT’RULLY!”

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  18. Trick question. There are no alphas in this picture. Dude on the right has potential based on his expression. are we sure the fatty on his lap is his girlfriend? Maybe it’s a stunt pic of some kind, but… no.

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    • on August 13, 2013 at 7:00 pm suppressedtruthsociety

      Yeah I’m inclined to think this chick just sat on the dude’s lap for the picture, and he has no interest in her. She’s about a 3 and he looks like he could pull a 7 easily, 8 on a good day.

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      • on August 13, 2013 at 7:02 pm suppressedtruthsociety

        Which, might I add, she’d definitely have to potential to be if she lost roughly 70 lbs.

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      • No way brah. I see this combo VERY frequently, at least in my area. I fucking marvel at what men will settle for in the States. I see dudes that could be pulling 7s-8s effortlessly overseas with some ugo 4-5 chicks. They simply have no concept that the REST OF THE WORLD doesn’t look like US/UK sows. It is a very sad state of affairs.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 12:35 am depressed_danny

        Every single guy from my class (20-22 range) that is currently engaged, getting married or has tied the knot already is a skinny-chubby man marrying a fat-obese woman. There is one couple where the woman is in shape.

        In fact, I think most women younger then 28 that actually date are overweight to a degree. The skinny ones have options with a new boyfriend every month and ride the carousel hard. Those pairs in the picture might not be dating, but the probability that they are is higher then not.

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      • Bear in mind men are judged by a different standard especially here in ‘Murica. His looks do him little good if he’s a nice guy with no game. In my city that’s a typical nice guy’s girlfriend, when he can get one.

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      • I thought of that too… but the guys have their arms around the girls in a sort of possessive way. If this was unwelcome you’d think they’d keep their arms down.

        And would a fat (obese?) girl just go sit on someone’s lap? They have to know it’s not going to be pleasant for the guy. I feel bad sitting on a guy’s lap and I weigh a lot less than they do.

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  19. I thought it was Hugo Schwyzer until now.

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  20. I laughed.

    There is no stopping the dysgenic landslide. The only rational course is to dive into a hedonist lifestyle, try to make a nice bundle of money and then insulate oneself in old age into a gated community as the US turns into a Hispanic South Africa.

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  21. “Girl in the front left is straining under the weight (heh) of her phony smile. She despises her reproductive partner,”

    This is very true.

    I think a woman feels contempt deep down inside for a man who can do much better than her.

    Women want to be chosen (pursued and fought for), not reconciled and resigned to because a guy can’t do better.

    On the other hand, a man who shouldn’t be dating her, as she’s much higher value than him (and nevertheless is dating her), will be revered.

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    • Virtuous cycle. Man seen with higher value woman —> world assumes the man is high value —> man gets more options —> etc.

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    • on August 13, 2013 at 4:11 pm FuriousFerret

      The solution, my dear Lily, is for the woman to Be Hot.

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    • Many fat girls are easy, as easy as a MILF after 3 Mai Tai’s. They often have huge boobs, tight vaj’s (if they keep up their Levels), soft, smooth skin (unless they get too cottage-chessey rumpled), and will allow all sorts of things – anal, threesomes, S&M – that Miss Skinny Priss would recoil from in horror.
      Plus, being self-conscious about their Porkie Pig muffin tops, thunder thighs, and big backyards, they often overcompensate with relentless hygeine. Some of the smelliest beavers I’ve ever endured were on gym bunnies, waitresses, hairdressers, or other hired guns.
      Skinny girls have less experience, generally, and therefore less skill, if also less diseases. (A plus. I did catch a mild case of slut rabies from a skinny girl once, though.)
      All in all, fat girls are great for shorter, older, poorer, or more “beta” guys.
      Yrs, they’re gross in many ways, sometimes disagreeable, often nuttier even than their lighter, tighter sisters, and yes, they have a bad habit of calving mulatto bastards and trading food stamps for Frito-Lay.
      But at garbage hour at the flyover country Honky tink, or at the “bar” in the mall, or at the Fratty MacDouche bar, fatties can often be slightly preferable to masturbating. Unless and until we stop allowing women so much damn food, every now and then we’ll have to let them give us the occasional bj, just to remind them why other girls stay within a non-bovine BMI.

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      • “Many fat girls are easy, as easy as a MILF after 3 Mai Tai’s. They often have huge boobs, tight vaj’s (if they keep up their Levels), soft, smooth skin (unless they get too cottage-chessey rumpled), and will allow all sorts of things – anal, threesomes, S&M – that Miss Skinny Priss would recoil from in horror.”

        Right. Sexual desirability is a commodity like everything else. When a product is in very high demand, the price holds or even goes up (when there is a shortage). When demand declines, so does the price. When a woman is young and beautiful, she can afford to be very selective as there is high demand for her. However, as she ages the demand declines, she has to be willing to be more “easy” to get any sexual action.

        I once argued with a bunch of old hags about this. They refused to concede that the reason they were so loose was the result of their age/lack of youth, lack of beauty, and decline in demand. They kept insisting it was their life experiences, saying that an older woman is more comfortable with her sexuality and more willing to be adventurous, as opposed to being a prude and worrying over what society thinks of her. I vehemently disagreed. If they were younger women, they would be much harder to bed and more prudish. Anyway, I’m not surprised why so many women are into tattoos and piercings. They see their slutty mothers doing it.

        Fat women have the same psychology as older women; they’re just as loose, if not worse.

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      • ‘I once argued with a bunch of old hags about this. They refused to concede that the reason they were so loose was the result of their age/lack of youth, lack of beauty, and decline in demand.’

        That’s just mean.

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    • I think a woman feels contempt deep down inside for a man who can do much better than her.

      It’s possible that this even extends to the single life, i.e., dudes who won’t talk to the hot chicks — even if they rack up a high notch count, but only do so by rutting with fatsos and plain janes.

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    • ‘I think a woman feels contempt deep down inside for a man who can do much better than her.’

      If hypergamy is the rule of the day, then I think we’d have to replace the word “contempt” with attraction.

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  22. This foursome should go on a double date in a canoe. That would be an adventure.

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  23. The alpha is the light shining in the darkness.

    Those dudes are just guys with chicks.

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  24. Was she a great big fat person?

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  25. Disagree. Did you forget what you personally wrote on alpha females? I thought the leading indicator of female alphaness was the amount of commitment one gets from a high value/quality male hence alpha male.

    [CH: It is. Female alphaness is a combination of her looks and her femininity, two traits universally valued by men. This post was meant in jest, but the girl on the right does seem like she managed to ensnare a high(er) quality man, judged on his looks alone (of course, he could be a beta at heart and in attitude, which would knock a few points off his SMV).]

    An alpha female will never let her standards slide so low regarding herself and subsequently her partner. They are all genetically betas, contextually her behavior can be considered alphaesque, but putting feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken. This is like Oprah being biologically beta, but her occupation status makes people treat her like a paper alpha. Go affirmative action! A real alpha female would never be mistaken of not being able to afford the $20,000 purse.

    Seriously bring back real alpha male/female analysis or cage match. Here’s a start Henry Kissinger vs. Teddy Roosevelt, Jamie Dimon vs Mitt Romney, Castro vs Clinton, Hefner vs. Sheen, Tiger vs Wilt vs Magic.

    Step it up.

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  26. “And isn’t that modern society in a nutless-shell? An alpha male woman smothering the life out of a man who can do better, but won’t.”

    “First of all I have to deal with even getting IN the club when I’m living in a major city. This is Los Angeles. I never see most of YOU in the clubs I go to…because most of YOU can’t get in. Most of YOU guys go to “General Audience” clubs, don’t you. And you wonder why, in a city like LA, there’s not a lot of hot women. That’s ’cause all the hot women are where *I* am. You guys don’t GO to the good clubs. And you want to know WHY you guys don’t go to the GOOD clubs? ’cause you can’t deal with the bullshit. It’s too hard for you. Because to get into the good clubs in LA, here are your choices: You either pay $700-$2000 for a bottle. Or you’re VERY good looking. And you have a group of highly attractive women that will roll into the venue WITH you that will get you in, and even THEN the bouncer will make you sit out there waiting like a dog, like you’re a piece of dirt for wanting to come to their venue.” – Tyler in the video above

    Plenty of hot girls, if you know where to look. They’re not at your local shit-hole meat-market dive-bar that these 4 are in lol These are the girls that hot girls don’t tell they’re going out when they go to the good clubs because the bouncers won’t let them in because they brought ugly friends.

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    • YaReally.

      I found one of the legit girls that I’m attracted to and like and one-itis is getting the best of me. Wondering if you could give me insight into my situ (text related) and let me know if it’s salvageable.

      The Opener:
      HB8 walking down the street with her friend. I was running daygame on my way home from work. I walk next to them for a few seconds and hear them speaking a different language. I just wing it, walk a few steps ahead, turn around and plant my feet and ask if they’re speaking Russian.

      They are. Then I tell them that I bet that the HB8 is talking about her ex-boyfriend and how she’s mad at him based on her body language. The two girls laugh and agree and I go on a one-minute spiel about how body language says everything. “But at least he is your ex-boyfriend. That is the best news I’ve heard all day.” The friend eats it up and tells me I should go for the HB8.

      “Nah, for all I know she could be a serial killer or gold digger”
      The HB8 and friend laughs and I say to the friend how we’re getting married and she will be the bridesmaid.

      I’m so nervous that I go straight in for the kill.

      “Look, I normally like to play it cool and wait 3-4 days when I get your number, but I’m leaving the country next week so let’s meet this Sunday”

      “Ohhhhh, then what’s the point. Now you can never get married!” Says the friend.

      “Hey, calm down ladies! I’m coming back in a week.”

      The girls laugh and I go for the number close. I tell HB8 to not be one of those crazy girls and call me 30-50 times a day. She throws her head back and laughs in disbelief and I set up solid time and place to meet and get logistics. She lives in Queens and me in Manhattan. I call and wait for her to pick up my call. Tell her I’ll hit her up Sunday afternoon before she gets off work at 7pm and I bounce……I bounce with the biggest shit-eating grin.

      The Date:
      Sunday afternoon I send this text:

      Me: Hey future ex-wife. Reminder: Date with future husband at 8pm, let’s meet at 59th and Lex.
      Her: Heyyy haha. That is a little fast but okay! See u then

      We meetup and the date goes really really well. Drinks at this rooftop bar and I’m doing my solid day 2 game.

      I don’t want to clog up the blog with the details of the date but I have an FR written on that and can post. We end up going to a park near my place and make-out. It was incredible. I really digged this girl and was screening/qualifying well and I was able to realize that “I was enough” as Alex from RSD would say.

      I walk her to her friends place a few blocks away where she is crashing instead of going back to Queens. Yes I could have pushed it more and regret doing so. I hear Eastern Europeans are pretty binary when it comes to kissing. If she’s kissing you, she will very likely fuck.

      Anyways, I bounce and we agree to meetup again. I don’t make set plans as I’m leaving the country for 5 days and I was the first to pull away on the kiss (she even pulled back in to keep kissing). Goddamnit. Anyway, my first date with an HB8 and I did pretty well overall. Again, I can paste the FR that focuses on just that if anyone wants to read. My buds in the Lair found it highly informative.

      Here is the text exchange since then. Basically, I’m at a cross-roads of how to get her out since I fucked up a bit and didn’t take the lead. Yes, I am sure there is some bad texts in there too:

      The texts:

      Me (06/05 afternoon): Hey! i had a really nice time last night. But…… my sources tell me you might be a spy. I have my eye on you. Next time we have an interrogation session over ice cream

      Her: Hey, all day long trying to take blood test

      Her: Lol yea I am belorussian spy but this is a big secret hope u are not telling anybody

      Me (06/05 evening): I swear I just saw your twin. You didn’t send her to spy on me in my neighborhood did you.

      Her: No but probably u found my sister twin but this is a great news))

      Me (08/06): I’m leaving for my trip, try not to seduce too many handsome men while I’m gone, you adorable spy

      Her: I’ll try) Have a good trip

      Me (08/10): Good news! I survived Colombia and didn’t get married lol. What are you up to this weekend?

      Her: Hi, Ohhh great news I am. glaf that u survived and came back to ny
      Her: I am glad
      Her: I always work on weekend and going on birthday party)

      Me: With your work schedule I don’t think our marriage will last ;-P How does this week look? Because I do want to see your pretty face
      —No Response—
      Me (08/11): I text you: You ignore me. This is so “us”

      Her (1min later): Omg sorry
      Her: Really I forgot!!! I was extremely busy yesterday and came back home too late
      Her: Next week I am working till 9p.m.

      Me (5 hours later): Excuses excuses. Okay, let me know a good day then because you still owe ice cream Miss Nikita
      Her: Wow wow wow I owe…ok mr, ImmoralGables
      Me: +1 for spelling my name right. I admit, I’m a little surprised

      END

      (Some of the spy, ice-cream, marriage stuff is based on callback humor from our date.)

      So yes, not the smoothest. And yes, case of oneitis here and since then I went on a date Friday and had one setup for today to try to avoid the common pitfalls. But, I feel like since this is all kind of new to me and I haven’t felt this kinda way in the past 2 years; well, hopefully you get the idea.

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      • initial thoughts:

        1) you let the marriage joke go on for too long. toward the end, it seems like you’re somewhat desperately hanging on to your “in-joke”
        2) “try not to seduce too many handsome men while I’m gone” reads all wrong to me. i know what you were trying to do, but this also reads as desperate to me. sure, it was a joke, but it reads like you’re trying to extract commitment out of her at a very early stage. the fact that you’re bringing it up suggests scarcity mentality. she can read that too. not good. if you’re going to play up the other dude angle, i’d go from the completely opposite direction (e.g., “let’s see who can hook up the most in the next 5 days!!!” or “just fyi if you sleep with more than 10 guys while i’mgone i don’t think this will work lol”)
        3) you need to remember to treat this girl the same as a girl you aren’t crushing super hard on. when i read your texts and your write-up, it is clear to me that you’re head-over. that’s fine, but remember that’s exactly the shit that was prohibitive to you in the past.
        4) sure it is salvageable, but you need to back off a little and allow comfort to build in person some more; you also need to get your head space right: she is just one of billions of chicks (common and replaceable)

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      • Thank you man.

        I appreciate what you’re saying and as I read it I was nodding my head like “Uhuh, uhuh, yup….fuck, uhuh, yup”

        I appreciate the feedback and will keep everyone posted how this turns out.

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      • on August 21, 2013 at 7:56 am Hugegamehunting

        Yeahokcool, could you pick apart my text exchange if it passe moderation. It’s in the “The Rules Of Social Savviness: Rule #3” post under CH August 20, 2013 at 2:21 pm comments.
        Huge Game Hunter
        ……and yeah while I was able to hide it prior to the number close I am into the target and have limited options because I have a “type”.
        Thanks

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      • Massive props, man.

        ‘Then I tell them that I bet that the HB8 is talking about her ex-boyfriend and how she’s mad at him based on her body language.’

        This is money. Shit like this is always a good way to get in to a convo.
        —–
        ‘Me (08/11): I text you: You ignore me. This is so “us”’

        Lol. I might steal that.

        ‘Me (5 hours later): Excuses excuses. Okay, let me know a good day then because you still owe ice cream Miss Nikita’

        Maybe you should have just set a day instead, rather than leave it up to her to choose a day.

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      • @SCRAY

        I know you didn’t ask for it but here is the full FR. Hope it helps out in the future! I’m pasting exactly as I wrote it for my buddies in the NYC Lair on the night that I got back from the date.

        Start:

        YES, okay it will be lengthy
        first of all, GREAT SUCCESS
        omg, she is such a HB russian babe
        Ok, I leave my apt at 7:30 dressed up very well. She texts me at 7:45 saying she is already at 59th and lex and i say”Ok, getting on train be there in 15″. So already, it was somewhat of a DHV that she’d be waiting for me
        Also, i tried getting her to meet me at 86th and lex and she was like “Honestly, I prefer 59th and lex since I just got off work”. I just said “ok” and no need to blow up the account. I did try though saying WingManX’s line about how I’m watching my friends dog an have to take it for a walk

        I get there at 8pm, tell her to meet me in front of H&M. She comes up, I turn around and BAM. Fucking gorgeous, bright red lipstick, slender ass body with a thigh gap. Short white shorts where u can almost see her asscheeks. Nice black tank top and goddamn guys, her arms are really fucking nice. Brunette/dark red hair and bright blue eyes

        We start walking towards Kimberly Hotel on 50th and 3rd and she is getting looks on the sidewalk. Immediately we go into comfort mode and I’m letting her do most of the talking. I’m not trying to relate and supplicate so much but offering my opinion on things.

        TL;DR, she is a lonely russian girl (from Belarus) working on immigration issues, school, hates her retail job.

        Right off the bat I felt confident that me alone was enough of a DHV (social circles, job, hobbies, etc)

        So we turn the corner and are walking to Kimberly and she asks me “So what do you do?” I misinterpret “What do you mean? I am on a date with you right now that’s what I’m doing” and she laughs and then eventually asks my job and I tell her how it’s really stressful, I’m way over my head, i was nervous at first but I’m getting used to it.

        All indicators of somewhat status job and i spoke passionately about it. I have never done that before and used advice from this Daygame coach that taught at this one seminar.

        We get in elevator to Kimberly. Boom rooftop. Boom headshot. It’s fucking nice. The hostess tries to sit me in a shitty area and I ask her if it’d be cool to sit in the corner next to the balcony. Done

        We sit right across from each other, dreaded date style but Okay, I could have sat on one of the couches but no big deal. We start talking getting to know each other and based on a date in April where I was “too much of a player”, i tone it down and am normal but flirty, direct, sexual. She knows the intent and the frame is set that we’re on a date
        We order drinks. Eventually i lead the convo away from her negative situation and take it to topic of dating. She had a 2yr relationship and she broke up with the BF. The bf at one point made her change her phone and she did it. She has a few really good “guy friends” and just a few girlfriends
        I relate with stories of how I broke off with a girl (HB Asian) so she could find someone right for her and to settle down with. Nikita asks where the girl was from and I say hong kong and her eyes light up.

        We keep going and bounce back and forth on dating topics, social dynamics, hobbies, etc. I’m doing all the usual stuff that I learned from dates. She shows me pics of herself when she had blonde hair and I say “No way that was you, I don’t believe you”
        After first drink I grab her hand and say how soft it is, she feels my calloused hands and that was first kino. She remarks how she was so surprised when I approached her on the street and how she never gives her number.

        She remembers the whole interaction pretty well so yeah bros, just approaching and doing it right is sometimes all DHV you need for a day 2

        Intermission…..
        Okay I’m back. The date continues like normal. She mentions that instead of going back to Queens, she texting her friend to stay at her place at 88th and 3rd. Hmm, I mention that if she stays, then we will take a cab and I HAVE to show her my favorite place in the UES. She asks what it is and i keep it vague but mention its my fave spot and it’s a park
        The check comes. I pay for it but she makes no indication of splitting (red flag). I tel her she is buying the ice cream the next time we go.

        Disclaimer: I knew it was on when she asked me what kind of thing i’m looking for. A serious relationship? Have I ever been in love? (I said no). I told her that I’m looking for a really cool girl and that I hope to be able to tell my friends about how cool the girl is and how she gives me space, isn’t demanding, isn’t crazy. Lets me do my thing

        BOOM. I set the frame and tone soooooooooo fucking hard there just telling her qualities that I WANT. She changed her tone and was hesitant to come across as overbearing. She did say she gets very very jealous, and when a guy is “hers”, she can get mad if he is flirting with other girls. YESSSSS! I made upa lot of role-playing scenarios and future dates and our marriage, so definitely was in flirty mode

        We decide to bounce. I tell cabbie take me to 86th and east end
        Walking through a dark area of the park, I put my elbow out and tell her that it’s dangerous here so she may need protection. She complies and hooks my arm. A minute later i throw her arm off to point out Queens across the bridge. Very sutble but i recommend throwing off the arm first

        We go to my make out spot. We talk a bit and my heart is racing fast. Soooo fast. This girl was my hottest date ever but i got to go through the motions. At one point I clasp her hand and we start running our fingers along each others hands
        I pull back. I lean against the railing and finally get the balls to pull her close. Phew.
        She puts her hand on my hip. Next thing I know i put her hands around my neck (YaReally style) and she has them wrapped around there. eye contact. Dilated pupils
        Uh oh

        “Hey, if you keep looking at me like that, I’m going to have to kiss you”

        She laughs. She goes “Oh in that case, I’m going to look THAT WAY”

        Knowing WingManY’s advice that Russian women want an alpha. I put my hand against her cheek and pull her in

        We start making out

        Goddamn, her lips are so soft. She starts doing some tonguing. I start biting her lower lip. Makeout for a minute then I end it and back to rapport mode for 5. I do want to kiss her again
        I switch positions and get her against the balcony but looking away. I come from behind and wrap my arms around her. Then i turn her around and initiate another makeout

        We decide to leave and walk her to her friends apt. At this point we talk a bit but I also just try to enjoy the moment and let the silence ride out. No need to overgame. Also, let the silence do it’s thing

        We get to her friends place. We start kissing again. I pull back. She pulls in. I smile and keep kissing. Then I say “Okay okay I have to stop, I don’t know what magic spell you’re putting on me”

        I keep it vague as to actually when we will hangout again but get her work schedule and tell her I’ll be back around on Saturday.

        She says “Yeahhh we’ll see each other again”. So it was like this Mexican standoff where I didn’t want to be too excited, and I knew she digged me based on her re-initiating that kiss so I was like “Yeah for sure, this was fun.” She agrees and I think it was best not to set an exact date to meet again.

        I walked away and as soon as I turned corner i startred grinning. Plugged my ipod in and walked for 15min just letting it soak in

        THE END

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      • @immoralgables

        Solid daygame pickup. Good work!

        “Her: Heyyy haha. That is a little fast but okay! See u then”

        Have seeeeeexxxxxxxxxxx!!! lol

        “Yes I could have pushed it more and regret doing so.”

        Why didn’t you? Don’t gloss over this, this is the important key here. Why didn’t you take her back to your place or escalate to bang in public? Is it because she’s “different”, so you’re going to run different game on her than you would with other girls? This one’s special, so you’re going to stop doing the stuff that works and start throwing game principles out the window? Were you so enjoying the validation of this chick digging you that you didn’t want to risk fucking it up by pushing too far and ruining those good emotions? Were you worried that if you effed it up by pushing too fast and scaring her off, you wouldn’t find another one this good again for a long time? Success barrier, where you couldn’t fully accept that a girl like that would be into you that fast? Those are the common reasons usually.

        “I was the first to pull away on the kiss (she even pulled back in to keep kissing). Goddamnit.”

        So why didn’t you go for sex? Your gut knows that was the right move lol I’m not trying to twist the knife here, but you’ll repeat this pattern if you don’t figure out what was going on in your head as you self-sabotaged.

        “Anyway, my first date with an HB8 and I did pretty well overall.”

        Sounds like you did fine. I don’t see a reason this situ wouldn’t be salvagable. Every minute of silence that goes by from her, to YOU is catastrophic…to an outside observer it’s no biggie. You should still be good.

        “Basically, I’m at a cross-roads of how to get her out since I fucked up a bit and didn’t take the lead.”

        This is the big fuck up but at least you recognize that. Especially with russian chicks who expect dominant men who take the lead.

        “Next time we have an interrogation session over ice cream”

        You’re playing “surprise, I have a penis!” game here lol Not that you should be like “hey baby, open wide and get ready to swallow”, but if the mistake is “this guy didn’t make a move sexually”, then you follow it up with “let’s go for ice cream on our next date!”, you’re playing into the whole “this guy doesn’t have a penis” view of you that you’ve started creating.

        Again none of this is THAT bad…it’s not optimal, but I doubt you’re totally fucked unless she’s extremely cut-throat.

        “Her: Lol yea I am belorussian spy but this is a big secret hope u are not telling anybody”

        This is good, she’s roleplaying along.

        “try not to seduce too many handsome men while I’m gone, you adorable spy”

        lol, kiiind of gay…you’re just giving off a lot of “omg you’re so special plz don’t find someone else before I get my chance!!!” vibes is all. Again not crippling, but not optimal is all. Roleplaying that she can seduce a bunch of handsome men is putting her value way up high.

        “Me (08/10): Good news! I survived Colombia and didn’t get married lol”

        This is better because it puts your value way up high instead, you’re the one who’s at risk of being taken.

        “Her: I always work on weekend and going on birthday party)”

        On a side note, how the fuck do you guys have conversations with girls like this? This hurts just to read lol Does she have shaky English or is she just a bad txt’er? I don’t think I could survive EE girls because I’d be dying to have an actual conversation lol

        “Me: With your work schedule I don’t think our marriage will last ;-P”

        mmmmm not the best wording for a Pull. She can’t change her work schedule (she’s not going to skip work), so you’re kind of saying “well if you can’t skip work for me then this won’t work out”.

        “How does this week look? Because I do want to see your pretty face”

        This is better, in that you’re finally taking the lead. This would blow you out with some girls, but this one needs to know you can be direct and have a penis. I mean look at how you started out “meet me Sunday” and what happened? “lol kind of fast giggle giggle but OKAY!!!! 😀 :D” That’s the same vibe you have with this “I want to see your pretty face” line. This is the stuff that says “hey, I have a penis, and I want to stick it in you. I’m a man who goes for what I want”

        “Me (08/11): I text you: You ignore me. This is so “us””

        I’m totally stealing this lol This was a GREAT “hey, respond to my txt” message…not needy/supplicative at all, roleplaying and future-projecting that you’re in a relationship together, etc. This is a perfect line. I’ll definitely be using this one.

        “Her: Really I forgot!!! I was extremely busy yesterday and came back home too late”

        This is legit. I don’t think she’s running any sneaky shit-testing game on you here. She’s just legit a busy chick who’s into you, but isn’t totally blown away by you yet…so she doesn’t want to fuck it up, but she’s not at the point where responding to you is top priority over everything else in her life yet.

        “Her: Next week I am working till 9p.m.”

        Does that mean on the weekend or during the week? Try pushing for a Sunday again, since she was able to meet up on a Sunday once already. Make it a lunch date even, it doesn’t matter…you can go for breakfast and escalate back to your place. A lot of guys think they need to do it in the evening and they have to involve a bar and alcohol etc, but that’s not true at all. You can seduce a girl into sex in the middle of the day…it’s SMOOTHER at night because the nightlife has a sexual nature to it, but if you have to do it in the daytime, behind a tree in the park, then you do.

        It’s perfectly find to go for breakfast/brunch BEFORE her shift, like meet up at 10am, build attraction, escalate, fuck by 11:30-noon, and send her off to work with a smile on her face lol

        “Me (5 hours later): Excuses excuses. Okay, let me know a good day then because you still owe ice cream Miss Nikita”

        Too soon. You don’t have enough value for this yet. You’ve already made out but not had sex…the rule is generally don’t make out hardcore unless you can push the logistics for sex in that interaction, because now she knows “we’re going to kiss a bunch which means we’re going to fuck, so if I agree to meet up again, he’s going to know it means I want to fuck so I’m going to look like a slut to either him or my own brain”. You pulled the pin on the grenade but didn’t throw it.

        So already it’ll be tougher to get her out again, but then on top of it now you’re telling her “you plan it out and tell me when you want to admit you’re a big slutty fucking whore who wants dick because you’re a slut” lol She can’t take the reins like that…on top of THAT, you already know she responds well when YOU take the lead…so you’re just like, completely whiffing past her particular blueprint of what she needs.

        ie – instead of absolving her of responsibility for it leading to sex, and taking the lead like a dominant EE guy she’s attracted to, you’ve put all of the responsibility of it leading to sex on her, shot her down once already by not trying to lead it to sex after she put herself out there by aggressively making out with you, and you’re making her take the lead…that make sense? lol

        “Her: Wow wow wow I owe…ok mr, ImmoralGables”

        She likes when you lead and are dominant…but she needs you to BE that, instead of making HER be that.

        “But, I feel like since this is all kind of new to me and I haven’t felt this kinda way in the past 2 years”

        All good. You’re not totally fucked, you’re just sort of sailing off the tracks.

        So how to fix it?

        It’s EXTREMELY unlikely that she’s going to txt you like “hey I’m free next Wednesday, let’s hang out!”. Like it’s theoretically POSSIBLE, but incredibly unlikely. You already know she thinks you’re fun/funny/interesting. You already know she likes you sexually since she made out with you. You already know she responds to dominant/aggressive/alpha “take what I want” shit. And you already know it’s possible for her to meet up on a Sunday because she’s done it once before. And you know she needs to feel like she has no responsibility for sex happening.

        I would shoot her a txt mid/late-week and get her in a good state, then go for some classic David DeAngelo: “I’m busy next week, but I want to see you. Which is better for you, Sunday after your shift or Monday?” and just assume the sale. She gets a little bit of an option so she can feel like she has a choice, but either choice is good for you.

        If you can get her out, fuck the shit out of her. You won’t get a 3rd chance. But like I say, you’ve triggered her ASD by having a heavy makeout without sex, so you’ve given yourself an uphill battle. It’s better to not kiss her at all or just give her a slight peck, if you aren’t going to try to fuck her that night, than to make out hardcore and then not fuck her…because with the no-kiss Day 2, there’s still sexual tension and mystery there and she can still tell herself she’s just meeting up to maybe kiss you at the most, which is romantic not slutty, and then you’d just escalate it from there on the Day 3.

        Keep pushing, but be more dominant and assume you have plans and that of COURSE she’d agree to them. I don’t think it’s too late to turn it around, but it’s hard to say once the ASD triggers are flying.

        Your ONLY goal now is to get in person with her. Do whatever it takes to do that. Once you two are in person together, you can work it from there. If she was still totally evasive, even if you had to say “let’s go on a gay shopping trip together, bring 10 of your friends and I’ll bring mine” and agree to a Day 3 that’s completely stacked against you, or lie your ass off about how amazing the Day 3 will be and all the amazing things you’ll do on it if you’re comfortable lying and she’s worth it…once you’re in person, you can always turn it around, smooth any disappointment over (“you mean we’re NOT going sky-diving??” “no babe, they were closed today, so anyway–(spike her temp, escalate, have sex)” so none of that will matter.

        As Julien would say, be shameless:

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      • First of all, thank you so much.

        I broke that barrier and got past the 6-7 girls here and this is so new to me. Let me answer your early questions.

        Why didn’t you? Don’t gloss over this, this is the important key here. Why didn’t you take her back to your place or escalate to bang in public?

        [Is it because she’s “different”, so you’re going to run different game on her than you would with other girls?]

        Yes….I know I know. It is really tough when they’re fresh of the boat and feminine and hot and not westernized. Thigh gap and bright blue eyes and even other women are checking her out on the sidewalk. I know I got to get my head back in the game.

        [This one’s special, so you’re going to stop doing the stuff that works and start throwing game principles out the window?]

        Yes. Other girls I would have escalated back to my place.

        [Were you so enjoying the validation of this chick digging you that you didn’t want to risk fucking it up by pushing too far and ruining those good emotions?]

        This but really for some dumb reason, I wanted to show I had hand and value by not going straight for sex although looking back, I bet that’s what she wanted. Amidst showing me pics of her and her family, asking me what kind of relationship I’m looking for, if I’ve ever been in love, staring aimlessly at the water after our makeout. Fuck…

        [Were you worried that if you effed it up by pushing too fast and scaring her off, you wouldn’t find another one this good again for a long time?]

        Not so much at the time but maybe subconsciously. Again, this is all new to my reality. And it was my first legit hottie I picked up off daygame and that was really into me. Honestly as gay as this found, I hadn’t felt this way since my gf 2 years ago who broke my heart. It was like out of a romance movie and damn it’s like my brain went on auto-pilot.

        [Success barrier, where you couldn’t fully accept that a girl like that would be into you that fast? Those are the common reasons usually.]

        I knew she could like me that fast I just didn’t know THAT much. She is working all the time, not a great social life, has a few friends and her family is back home. Here I come with a decent job, solid friends and charming demeanor and for the first time with this caliber girl, I felt like “I was enough”. But yes, still out of my reality that I could have lifted her up mid-makeout, wrapped her legs around me and escalated.

        I totally regret it looking back. The fact that she’s only had 2 boyfriends prior and gets jealous when the last one flirted with other girls made me thing that she wouldn’t put out that night.

        I’m working on it YaReally. Do understand that I tried to tone down my “gaming” and be my normal charming self. Bad thing is that normal self doesn’t escalate as fast as he ought to. I will work on this and keep you posted.

        [On a side note, how the fuck do you guys have conversations with girls like this? This hurts just to read lol Does she have shaky English or is she just a bad txt’er? I don’t think I could survive EE girls because I’d be dying to have an actual conversation lol]

        Just to answer that real quick, she is very much EE. Not the best English but very sexy accent. Likes Russian music and movies. Very much not Westernized and fresh off the boat.

        I will be back later and will also post the field report of the date so people can learn from that.

        Even if I fuck up tremendously. I promise to post that too so people can learn. OP will deliver regardless and thanks again YaReally for the real-talk.

        -ImmoralGables

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      • “Yes. Other girls I would have escalated back to my place.”

        lol don’t worry, this happens to all of us. Part of why we go out and approach girls, and specifically push ourselves to approach HOT girls, is that ya, you can get good with 6s and 7s, and that’s fun and you get your dick wet…but then you’ll meet an 8+ that you REALLY want and choke because you’re not used to being around them and your brain’ll mind-fuck itself.

        You really didn’t do horrible, most normal random guys wouldn’t even get a makeout on the first date with a chick like that. And the set isn’t 100% toast or anything, you just have more of an uphill battle now. It’s worth still trying. She sounds like a busy chick, and you’ve triggered her ASD so be prepared for a lot of flaking and having to force your way into her schedule…that’s not supplicating in this scenario because you have legit logistical/ASD issues to deal with now. Going out of your way to arrange a date that’s not necessarily convenient for you would be supplicating if she had a free schedule and you were just being overly agreeable and desperate and offered that up as a first effort hoping that if you make the date easy enough she’ll come out and you might get lucky. This is more like now you have to disarm a nuke that’s in the launching sequence, so if you have to start yanking out wires, you yank out some fucking wires lol

        “This but really for some dumb reason, I wanted to show I had hand and value by not going straight for sex although looking back, I bet that’s what she wanted.”

        🙂 lol. Again, don’t worry, we’ve all done this. Multiple times. This is just what one-itis does to a guy…”I banged all these other girls because I had hand and value, but THIS one’s different so I’m going to NOT show her I have hand and value like I did with those other girls and that will make her see I have hand and value……..wait wut?”

        “Amidst showing me pics of her and her family, asking me what kind of relationship I’m looking for, if I’ve ever been in love, staring aimlessly at the water after our makeout. Fuck…”

        lol. I only lol because I know the sting of this. It still happens to me when I fuck up. The important thing is that you realize you fucked up and it wasn’t that she’s a bitch or anything…you just glossed over some signals she was putting out there that, if she had been uglier and you hadn’t been blinded by one-itis, you would have picked up on and acted on.

        “And it was my first legit hottie I picked up off daygame and that was really into me.”

        It was a really solid street pickup, if that helps lol. Really impressive. You assumed attraction, made your intentions known, lead the interaction, used some push/pull, all sorts of good shit. 99% of guys would’ve not said anything at all and been telling their buddies “man you should’ve seen this hot Russian chick I saw today, she was amazing” and fantasized about how they “would’ve” picked her up if they had balls.

        “Honestly as gay as this found, I hadn’t felt this way since my gf 2 years ago who broke my heart.”

        lol. SO gay. But I understand. Even years into the game, this can happen. In fact, probably MORESO because after meeting a lot of chicks you realize how rare certain qualities are so you get even harder one-itis when you run into them, VS when you’re new and every girl is a magical perfect unicorn…now you have personal experience and evidence that no, this one IS special. And you can acknowledge that, and let that fuel some nice congruent direct game with her…buuuuut you still have to follow the seduction formula and stick your dick in her when she gives you that window of opportunity. 🙂

        “She is working all the time, not a great social life, has a few friends and her family is back home.”

        This is all good for you. Keep pursuing her. Like I say, try a more dominant/alpha approach, pick a time that’s convenient for her busy schedule, set the tone of the interaction and take what you want. She might still be like “ohhh I can’t do sunday :(” and flake. That’s fine, don’t let it phase you…you’ve armed the nuke so it’s going to be tricky. Just roll with it, laugh it off, and try again the next week. Like I say, if you feel comfortable lying or exaggerating the awesomeness of what your date will be, go ahead and do that. Someone once put it like “if you trick me into going to Disneyland, I’m not going to be mad when I find out it was a trick because it’s fucking Disneyland and it’s awesome” lol I normally try to keep things honest, but that’s my own personal challenge…you do whatever you feel will work, you’re in new territory here and have to learn your own boundaries.

        “Here I come with a decent job, solid friends and charming demeanor and for the first time with this caliber girl, I felt like “I was enough”.”

        All solid stuff…this alone is a success right here, in terms of self-development. You should be proud of this, despite choking with the girl lol

        “But yes, still out of my reality that I could have lifted her up mid-makeout, wrapped her legs around me and escalated.”

        You 100% could’ve done this lol. If you pull off getting a Day 3, you sure as shit better be on this. 🙂

        “The fact that she’s only had 2 boyfriends prior and gets jealous when the last one flirted with other girls made me thing that she wouldn’t put out that night. ”

        Look at what she does, not what she says. She dated a guy who flirts with other girls, and she’s out on a date with a guy who picked her up off a cold-approach on the street. She may SAY “I hated when he did that”, but she is responding instinctually TO flirty confident sexually aggressive/dominant guys.

        Like imagine the absurdity of a woman ordering a pizza and saying “I hate ordering pizza, ugh, I never do it!!”, as she’s dialing the pizza place. You wouldn’t be like “oh this girl must not like pizza”, you’d be like “wtf woman logic??” lol

        “Do understand that I tried to tone down my “gaming” and be my normal charming self. Bad thing is that normal self doesn’t escalate as fast as he ought to.”

        lol this is the trick. 🙂 We swing the pendulum to both sides to settle in the middle: be a super Nice Guy, be a super asshole/player, then settle in the middle somewhere that’s comfortable/congruent and gets results. Never touch a girl because it’s disrespectful, go for makeouts off the “hello”, then settle somewhere in the middle. etc. etc. This is just a learning process, no biggie.

        When a kid learns how to walk, he stands up and he takes a few steps then falls to his left. Giggles and stands up again, takes a few steps, and falls to his right. Giggles and stands up again and starts figuring out how to balance. That’s all you’re doing.

        “Even if I fuck up tremendously. I promise to post that too so people can learn.”

        All good man. Google “pua fuckup reports” sometime lol. We used to have categories of Field Reports and one of them would have the thread start with “FU:” in the title which meant it was a Fuck Up report where the guy lost the lay for whatever reason (usually his own fault, LOTS of reports like yours of just not pulling the trigger). They help to 1) teach other guys to hopefully avoid making the same mistakes, 2) help you narrow down what exactly went wrong and where your Sticking Point is and what mentally was going on under the surface that caused you to choke, and 3) they’re embarrassing as fuck to write and put out there for other guys to read, so the next time you’re in this situ, this whole humiliating experience will be burned into your fucking SOUL and you’ll go “goddamnit, not THIS time!!” and pin her up against the wall and escalate like she was hoping you would. 🙂

        Good stuff man. Glad you found an awesome chick. Even if it doesn’t work out with her (I still think you can turn this around, it just might take some time to get her out again), this will start a trend where your brain says “I deserve girls like this, wtf am I doing hitting on this 6 when there’s an 8 over there who’s giving me the eye?”

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      • damn, bro. you’re good. many pounds of props!

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      • This was helpful for me to. I’ve made some of those mistakes and reading that showed the reasons behind why they were bad.

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    • Yeah, this. The thing about the U.S. is there ARE extremely hot women, but you’re unlikely to see them unless you’re admitted into the most elite corners of night-life society. I’ve been places where there was nary a landwhale in sight, and every broad was at least a 7.5. All done up in heels and make-up too.

      I guess you can chock it up to a country where hypergamy is allowed and encouraged to run free: naturally the hottest women will congregate in society’s elite corners. You can moan and cry about it, but at least it forces men with desire to rise above and compete. The downside is a lot of American men get left in the dust, but hey, adapt or die (or worse, live as a beta).

      And believe me, these women are not easy to Game. At a high-end club in NYC about a year ago, I was blown out by nearly every one of them I approached. You can say that’s because my Game sucks, and I can’t prove that it doesn’t, but I’ve never encountered the sort of resistance and militant shit-testing that went down on that night.

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    • Excellent video, especially the video game analogy towards the end.

      Guy went 2 years without getting laid and 1.5 without having a kiss. Incredible

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    • I have my issues with RSD — mainly the lack of an overall structured approach (the ratio of woo-woo/tactics is like 9:1) — but Tyler does tell it like it is.

      You ARE on edge if you’re out there approaching. And there IS so much bullshit to deal with before you can even get on the gridiron. And the amount of bullshit you have to deal with, anyway is so great, that you will naturally just develop a brighter outlook on life while developing greater confidence (dependence?) on yourself.

      KJ’s are easy to spot because they’re still trying so hard to “save face” at all costs. I try my best when I’m out there, but ultimately, who gives a fuck? I want to have fun. I want to make jokes. I want to try to lend light wherever I can. It’s something no one can take away from you, and it’s something that most people seem unwilling to do or incapable of doing.

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      • on August 13, 2013 at 10:25 pm FuriousFerret

        “mainly the lack of an overall structured approach (the ratio of woo-woo/tactics is like 9:1) ”

        I think this because he’s catering to RSD’s demographic. Most of his clients are introverted, shy and riddled with low self esteem. Probably the biggest challenge they have to overcome is to reset their mentality. If your mind is fucked all the tactics in the world won’t help.

        You get your woo-woo from CH’s humorous posts on female’s true retarded nature. It’s hard to pedestalize them when somebody is pointing out the absolute insane shit that they do and think when left to their own devices.

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      • The most you can do for a negative mentality is to consistently go out, though. I mean, I guess you can say that a lot of RSD woo-woo is really aimed at just giving people the courage to go out. But, I’m still of the mindset that competence -> confidence. You give someone a few dumb lines to say, and it helps, because a lot of their ‘what if I don’t have anything to say’ fears will go away.

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      • The stuff you come up with improvising is way better than anything old-school PUAs were running back in the day lol the main reason they don’t teach routines/tactics as much now is that you improvising shit that makes you laugh is 1000x more congruent than you trying to run like, the Horse Girl opener, when you didn’t actually know a Horse Girl.

        For tactics you have to go back to some older-school game. RSD had the tactics on lock-down back in the day, but they’ve been focusing on inner game the last few years because, well, outer-game is already solved lol.

        For outer-game:

        – read the Tyler Digest: http://www.scribd.com/doc/276760/Tyler-Durden-The-Tyler-Digest
        – read everything here: http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/
        – Watch all of the Mystery Method DVDs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qb5Fp6hr8A
        – pirate RSD Foundations
        – and read LoveSystems “Magic Bullets”

        That’s all there is to outer-game lol. Oldschool Field Reports literally looked like:

        “So I opened with who lies more, transitioned to jealous girlfriend, followed with badass kid, powerpuff girls, you and I wouldn’t get along, stripper DHV, ran the cube, #-closed then–”

        Like it was massively by the books structured. Field Reports now are a lot more organic looking (“I owned the place and then I said something to this chick, can’t remember what it was but she loved me, and I grabbed her and–“), which are harder to learn from if you’re looking for structure.

        People make fun of Mystery’s super-elaborate method, but it really is a consistent repeatable structure to follow. The oldschool RSD guys all learned and still apply Mystery’s structure underneath all their natural vibing, even tho they do it sub-consciously now and don’t teach it that way.

        Really the key to all of this, and the reason I got good at it, was that I understood early on that it was the structure of the routine that was important, not the actual words being said…so I’d take the structure and just fill in my own words relevant to my life and my personality, while keeping the structure that ran the girl through emotions or escalated or whatever.

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    • > “These are the girls that hot girls don’t tell they’re going out when they go to the good clubs because the bouncers won’t let them in because they brought ugly friends.”

      And you think that shit is wife material?

      The kinda womyn you want to be the mothers of your children?

      I pity you Blue State guys if you’re chasing dark, soulless, nihilistic trim like that.

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      • In case it’s not clear, I’m talking about these Blue State “hot girls”, not the ugly friends whom they’ve betrayed.

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      • Brother, this is the 2013 Failed States of America. No man with half a brain is looking for a wife. We seek hot trim, wherever it may be, and we plunder and pillage it.

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      • Well then be prepared to say goodbye to Western Civilization.

        And say hello to the Orc Invasion, as orchestrated by Sauron and the Nine of the Frankfurt School.

        Maybe in 500,000 years, the alien anthropological archaeologists from Klendathu can reconstruct some historical record of what had been our civilization.

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      • I’ve already wept for Western Civilization.

        The demographics of Western countries are too far fuxxated to have any hope of turning around now. Might as well have fun watching the world burn.

        Besides, nobody wants to martyr himself in some “trial marriage” in a misguided attempt to save civilization. He’ll just end up another faceless married miser in a rapidly declining society.

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      • Why would they bother. Who would give a sh*t?

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      • Ya generally, most girls are kind of shitty. So are most guys. Breaking news, I guess. That’s why you don’t go making every girl you sleep with your girlfriend or wife.

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  27. white standard of beauty.

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  28. To me guy on the left looks drunk. He probably thought the whole thing was funny until the camping chair collapsed.

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    • LOL’ed.

      Plus he broke his tailbone, and he didn’t have Obamacare [because McDonalds reduced him to 29 hours per week], so he was looking at $25,000 in surgery bills and another $50,000 in rehab bills over the following two months.

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  29. The things those chairs would say if they could speak…

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  30. http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/cheating-husbands-cruel-words-inspires-campaign-change-144523384.html?vp=1

    ‘Jennifer Tress’ marriage and life was forever changed when her ex-husband muttered the four ugly words, “You’re not pretty enough,” as his reason for cheating on her.

    Now she is on a crusade to help women build their self-esteem with her empowering book entitled, “You’re Not Pretty Enough,” as she tackles issues most women, and even some men, deal with on a daily basis of not liking what they see on the other side of the mirror.’

    ‘and even some men’ lolzlzlzlzlzlz. These poor victims would all slice their wrists if they had to walk a mile in the shoes of a beta.

    ‘Today, Tress is remarried to a man who not only thinks she is pretty enough, but is also playing an active role in her crusade.’

    I smell a BOTM candidate approaching…

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  31. I find it absurd that girls shaped like that even exist.

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  32. There are no alphas in the photo. Women, by nature, are unable to be alphas because women are like opportunistic infections…only when presented with a weakened host are they are able to set up and cause disease.

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  33. Black dress is boss.

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  34. I think that the women are beautiful!

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  35. on August 13, 2013 at 6:08 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

    Lollzzolozzzloll.

    Seriously, lolzlolzzlolzz

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  36. Why do you want to ruin my day?

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  37. The chick in the black dress could “potentially” be in HB7 territory; if she lost about 40 pounds.
    Though there is huge difference between; potentially and realistically.
    Realistically; it’s unlikely to happen.

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    • on August 14, 2013 at 10:12 am Ternarydaemon

      Loosing fat is not enough, specially for white race women. Her muscles are atrophied, and she would need several months of squats and many other exercises to rebuild her body. If she is under 24, it is doable in six months (gym 7 days a week). 24-8 it may take a year or two. Over 29, she will certainly need plastic and/or reconstrtuctive surgery. Not impossible, just expensive. Over 31… she may as well forget abput it and become a highly succesful businesswoman with no children and a proclivity for lesbianism.

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  38. on August 13, 2013 at 6:49 pm suppressedtruthsociety

    Who else was squinting at the group huddled in the background after reading the title?

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  39. No man with options would shame himself to be seen with disgusting Lards of flesh and stretched out skin like these posers pretending to be women. Alpha=man with options, thus no alpha.

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    • The guy who went home early to watch some porn is the alpha.

      Seriously, why would a guy lower himself to those two whales? Even if you have no options, everyone has porn as an option, or just everyday household objects like a pillow or a spatula would be a more satisfying sexual partner than those two behemoths.

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      • You know, the Alpha Male Orca on the right is actually kinda cute.

        With a good personality, and some smarts, and a skill of some kind [piano or some other musical instrument, foreign language, great cook, whatever], plus a monster-sized clitoris, she could be a lotta fun.

        But damned if the cigarette smoking doesn’t just ruin any possible fantasy you could work up.

        Cigarette smoking == DNFW.

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  40. I can barely get girls like the one on the left. Good thing hookers are legal in Canada.

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  41. Spot the alpha?
    The alpha wouldn’t be caught dead at a house party with lard asses like these.
    If he was here earlier he would have left because he has options elsewhere.
    Or on the way out he captured two couples on his phone to latter show his friends and laugh.

    The guy on the left has got a hard on and he is holding the girl tight on it, she is laughing because his dick is hard under her. That is assuming she can actually feel his hard on. Maybe he just told her he is hard.

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  42. Spot the alpha —-

    The whale in black????

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  43. Umm, I was guessing the guy in the background on his cell phone…

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  44. Isn’t the average American woman now like 5’7″ and 165 pounds? As in, a blubbery lardass? All the more reason to join some kickboxing gyms and find a girl who keeps herself in shape, haha.

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    • 40 pounds overweight, on average. Srs.

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    • Yeah, like that crazy chick who got all wet for the older Tsarnaev brother.

      Them’s some real healthy, stable, reliable personalities, well-grounded in reality.

      PS: Sorry if you were being sarcastic and I misunderstood.

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  45. The point of this post is not to focus on the fatties. It’s to highlight the pathetic existence of the postmodern deconstructed american male in a post-feminist society, who should have at most a 120 lb woman on his lap, not 150+. He’s fit and handsome. Yet women in his own age group are waiting for Mr. Right. Is it really any wonder the birthrate is tanking and a new nation of mongrels are displacing white america?

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    • Yes, there is a sardonic irony here that is being displayed in technicolor. With CH only sort of pointing it out, but many seem to be missing the proverbial forest for the trees, as it were.

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      • Addendum: Probably because both the forest and the trees are grossly obstructed from view. *cha-ching*

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      • The Narrative.

        Brought to you by the obesity epidemic, which serves to obstruct the view of both the forest and the trees.

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  46. I thought for a moment that you were going to suggest that the guy on the right was the alpha male. That would have been weird, an alpha male would never let a fat chick sit on him

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    • on August 13, 2013 at 10:14 pm suppressedtruthsociety

      No guy I’ve ever known, alpha or beta, would shove off a fat chick who plopped down on his lap for a photo at a party (which is what I’d bet is happening in the pic). Can you imagine what a bitter asshole that would make you look like? At worst, having anything with tits and a vagina on your lap nets some amount of pre-selection cred.

      People are reading way too much into this photo. I get it; there aren’t enough fit women to go around anymore in the U.S. But that’s not sufficient reason to conclude that the good-looking guy on the right actually settled for the oversized beast on his lap.

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      • No guy I’ve ever known, alpha or beta, would shove off a fat chick who plopped down on his lap for a photo at a party (which is what I’d bet is happening in the pic).

        You’re right. I wouldn’t even let a fat chick sit down on my lap in the first place.

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      • No guy I’ve ever known, alpha or beta, would shove off a fat chick who plopped down on his lap for a photo at a party (which is what I’d bet is happening in the pic).

        You’re kidding right? I’ve done it (or something similar). I’ve seen alphas do it. Heck, I’ve seen betas do it. If the girl is a friend in your social circle, that’s different. If she’s a stranger, off she goes! And if she hits the ground with a thud, all the better. The crowd usually responds with laughter.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:05 pm suppressedtruthsociety

        “If the girl is a friend in your social circle, that’s different.”

        The people in the photo are in their late teens or early twenties. In that age group, everything revolves around the social circle. So that probably was the case.

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      • Well, if you shove her off, she might land on some orbiter’s face…

        win-win…eh… win.

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      • You will immediately start losing blood circulation in your legs, if someone that heavy is on your lap. For that reason alone, these two needed to be shoved off.

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      • Hell, I’ll bounce both of ’em on my knees and have ’em mewling for another ride.

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      • (Most of these guys are living in SWPL suburbia where nobody bleeds for “alpha” cred. Funny how they bite the hand that feeds them the ability to be alpha without doing anything but talking shit, but there ya go.)

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    • without at least grabbing her boobs.

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  47. In nyc, ive never ever seen anything like this photo.

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  48. on August 13, 2013 at 9:22 pm oreounchained

    Calling the Blue Whale in training on the right the group alpha is like calling a cactus an alpha flower…

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  49. If I had arms the size of those girls’ arms, I would be deadlifting over 500.

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  50. http://goo.gl/X9cg3I

    ’41-year-old woman gets 200 hours’ community service over series of lewd text messages to teenage boys

    A BRISBANE mum who sexted explicit photos of herself to her 14-year-old son’s circle of friends will not receive a conviction, after a magistrate found she commited the offences during a “flight from reality”.

    The 41-year-old woman from Brisbane’s southside, who cannot be identified, texted images of herself wearing a pink G-string, squeezing her breasts and a picture of her genitals to the three boys, all aged 14.

    Ms Yousufzai said one of the texts sent to a boy read: “I wanted to f— you at (my son’s) party, I wanted to rip your pants off …”

    Magistrate Elizabeth Hall said she was persuaded by medical evidence the woman was suffering a psychiatric condition and a “flight from reality”.

    “Your behaviour arises out of a medical condition, not out of an inclination to harm children,” she said.

    She sentenced the woman to 200 hours of community service.

    A conviction was not recorded.’

    Meanwhile, James Hooker has to register as a sex offender due to a witch-hunt started over his relationship with someone of legal age.

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  51. this site is really starting to get silly.

    a pic of 2 guys with fatties that seem to be happy to be with said fatties…..

    REALLY?

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    • I know right? How many chicks have emailed you about that bad ass avatar with a pistol pointed forward? At least dozens I’m guessing… You are basically a Gun Nut version of Moby. This is Not Good(tm). Only M3 who is your superior on every level, I guess, still visits your site? What could I -possibly- learn from a middle aged bald dude with no game and a pistol? Probably something silly… like having a fat chick sit on my lap.

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      • Lol. Thanks sweetie. You just made my night.

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      • The truth hurts nigga… Oh by the way “Regards” from Firepower who is also your superior in every way, shape, and form. I don’t always agree with his WN bullshit but he is R E A L talk all day long. Something that is becoming more rare on the so called “manosphere”. If you have some time for education head over to RooshV and see how I roll nigga… you are at the bottom of my list. Soft insecure white boys are not ANYWHERE near as dangerous as hadd niggas– but you know that too.

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      • It always makes me smile to piss off a wigger.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 5:04 am truth hurts i guess

        POG – personnel other than grunts –people who arent grunts/ground fighters, and only joined because they fail at life….are spineless and dont believe in patriotism or service to country…they just chase benefits

        REMF – rear entry mother fucker — as the name implies, they come when the dust is settled and the conflict is waned….yet they like to lie to people and tell them about how badass they are, even though they only fired the rifle a few times at basic training…..again, they arent fooling anybody, as people in general know that anybody who is really out there fighting dont have time to post pathetic online pics

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 5:13 am truth hurts i guess

        dannyfrom504 is a disgrace to the uniform…he didnt join to serve his country or give back…he just joined because he was probably an unknown loser in highschool with no talents, and dumb brain…and felt that people would forget that if he did a job in the navy that would pay 12.85 an hour in the civilian world

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:33 am truth hurts i guess

        it really sucks how people like dannyfrom504 only join the Navy to visit places for free, whereas we can use that money to secure our border….but go figure..the dude is actually a mes.tizo……its in their DNA to suck of the welfare tit

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      • Everyone, meet firepower. He writes for CH, along with 5-6 others. you can always tell it’s him by his racist WN (white nationalist) dreck. And while he has no problem pointing out my Mexican background; he won’t mention my Cajun bloodline. Who were here WAAAAAY before the Europeans.

        Thanks for sending me more traffic FP.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:42 am truth hurts i guess

        yes, he’s cajun….but us anglos have always been more closer to german aryans….than those french……..but this isnt about WN…as i actually appreciate any man or women of any race who is out there in the trenches….just like i hate any man or women of any race who seeks to undermine this govt…….and who the hell is firepower…..cum su.cking fa.ggo.t

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      • When you take me out of moderation, I reply again. You disingenuous douche.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:48 am truth hurts i guess

        “when you take me out of moderation”

        what do you mean??? what does that mean??

        anyone with a hint of pc skills can easily see my MAC address…so i dont know what you are tryna imply POG

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      • I’m really glad you’re doing this over CH, since a lot of people will see how irrelevant you’re becoming FP.

        And…….

        You’re sending me tons of traffic. Thanks baby.

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      • I got your WN dreck right here, Schlomoquez.

        BTW, the only way that pic could fail more is if you were holding the pistol sideways… as it stands, keep your fool bugger hook off the bang switch before you hurt someone.

        You small caliber fairy.

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      • WTF is this subthread even talking about?

        I don’t understand a word of it.

        ?????

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      • Dude, it’s nothing. Lol. Just a mainstream blogger having a hissy fit on his own forum where he(she) takes on fake commenter ID to engage me.

        He’s so staunch in his opinions yet la is the balls to post openly.

        Nothing more to see here, move on.

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      • Hey, this “Firepower” guy
        Sounds pretty
        cool…

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 4:59 am truth hurts i guess

        yea dude, becasue nothing screams “more pathetic” or “tool” than a small man NAVY POG REMF posing with a pistol, who only joined for college money and didnt join the marines or army because he was too Pus.sy to fight on the ground….yet, you think the world of yourself, because you are getting free food, housing, uniform, insurance, with a padded paycheck, job skills, and a free ticket to any college, whereas if you werent in the navy, you wouldnt be scratching more than 15 dollars an hour, just because we live in a county that doesnt know how to apply its military budget….nothing special about owning a pistol either, unless you live in NJ, NY, or CA,..all you really need is 2 months waiting time, 80 bucks for licensing/reg, and a couple hundered for a decent brand pistol…the fact that you make that your profile pic, thus implying it as something awesome, shows how unawesome and fail at life you are

        …also, you wanna know how i know youre gay,..because youre in the navy and you arent picking up a hobby like surfing or guitar or diving…you’re just on a fricking laptop

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      • Hahahahaha. Ok. Whatever you say sweetie.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 5:11 am truth hurts i guess

        dannyfrom504 is nothing more than a spineless benefit chaser…probably never got into a fist fight in his life…probably never played a team sport in his life….(not even little league)….probably never even camped, hiked, biked in his life….probably doesnt know how to patch a radiator leak in his car, or make a mean mixer…probably doesnt know how to cook a steak blue, or have a signature dish…people like him just suck at life, and the fact that he joined the navy instead the Marines or Army just prove it….look at the dude wearing choco chip cammies with his military TRICARE glasses with a TAURUS (really cheap and crappy pistol brand, reserved for wannabes and posers) pistol

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      • Actually, it’s a military issue Remington.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:00 am truth hurts i guess

        cool, whats the point of brandishing it…not like you’re ever going to use it in your life…because, you were too coward and spineless to join a combat arms MOS or rating like infantry or armor, and joined the navy to sit safely on a ship……everytime i see sailors or airmen in their tiger stripes at bars, i just lol…i mean the only difference for the most part between them and the civilian sitting next to them is that one wears BDU’s to work, and the other wears jeans and a t shirt to work (contrary to popular belief, alot of the military wok is low skilled and not demanind, kind of like warehouse work)……oh yeah, theyre also not in it for free food, clothing, housing, insurance, free college, discounts, low interest loans, job skills, free travel on taxoayer dime…..thats why i respect the army and marines, they forsake alot to do the job that needs to be done……..no one needs ppl like u in the global war on terror…they need gunfightes on the ground…men with brass balls

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      • So…..

        I’ll reply if you tell me why you deleted my previous comment.

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      • Yeah……

        That’s what I thought.

        Pussy.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:12 am truth hurts i guess

        judging by your patch and your pic…your in medically branch in the navy…but youe probabbly not the guy fixing up and healing servicemen…youre probably the guy who runs prescriptions and fills syringes for the other corpsman….i bet the navy did that as they see no point in training up a 39yr old loser at life, as opposed to that 20 year old who already has theyre emt 1, 2, 3, and paramedic degree..along with lifeguard badge, and speaks another language…those are the guys like that who they want to train to be battlefield medic…youre just a glorified gopher who does clerical work, and serves patients theyre meals….you would probably make 9 dollars an hour in the civilian world….faggo.t

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      • Lol. Aaaaaaaaw. Didn’t mommy and daddy hug you enough cookie.

        How about you pop momma’s titty out your mouth and post openly firepower?

        What are you scared of.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:47 am truth hurts i guess

        why would anyone have a pic of a pistol if they are not ever going to fire it….i mean…he joined the navy after all, so he can sit safely and cozy on a ship…yet he tries to jest and jape the readership of heartiste by giving of the illusion of him being a badass…..no, i dont buy it….if he were a badass, he would have four deployments under his belt in iraq and a-stan……

        like seriously…if youre into firearms like that (and obviously you are, as you are making that the first image/impression people see of you) why not join the marines or army….

        oh thats right…..your a fake ass pussy bitch

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      • You’re responses are wonderful baby-cakes.

        You obviously know nothing about me. BUT people can go to my site and see what I’m about. Whereas you talk shit while holding on to momma’s skirt via intarwebz anonymity.

        Pussy.

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      • Congrats on torpedoing the credibility of one of the best sites in the community.

        Well done FP/Ryu

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 3:57 pm truth hurts i guess

        i dont delete comments as i cant delete comments pinky….

        some comments on heartiste dont show up (spam protection acting up i s’pose)

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 5:20 am truth hurts i guess

        lol at the banner at dannyfrom504’s blog, hideyerdaughters…..nah bruh, dudes hide their daughters from MEN like SEALs, rescue swimmers and divers, Navy MDs, EOD, Green Berets, Marine Recon, senior officers etc, etc…..not 39 year old yeoman (just OVER compensated secretaries, see earlier posts), who probably report to 21 year olds…..sorry bro, but 39 yrs old and your not even SNCO…..which means you probably joined at 34 or so

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      • Lol. For those of you that don’t know. The person talking upshot is firepower. He writes for CH. CH has about 5-6 writers. You can tell firepower’s posts by the WN (white nationalist) backdrop.

        He can say whatever the fuck he wants about me, I really don’t care. But at least I have enough sack to post openly; while he and his ilk post anon and act bad-ass.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:17 am truth hurts i guess

        dannyfrom504 blocked me from replying to him….guess he’s not the alpha dude he paints himself to be on his wordpres..guess the truth hurts……
        dannyfrom504…just wondering…what is your rank, and did you attend A school….something tells me you are one of the e-3 in the navy who never attended A school….in other words…a colossal loser.

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      • Dude…seriously. Tearing down guys by being a keyboard jockey is not the way to go. Are you that repressed?

        Now come at me if you dare…your insults will only strengthen me. When I am weak…then am I strong.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:36 am truth hurts i guess

        @earl….nahh dude…i could never insult you…you seem like a real, down to earth fellow…and you allow post wisdom….you’re actually funny too…

        ive just been watching dannyfrom504 on these boards be a total poser jack-ass for far too long, and only decided to speak up on it now…..

        like how big of a loser do you have to be to post a pic of you with a pistol

        thats like me posting a pic of me holding a broom or a toothbrush or pencil…..things that are available and easily attainable to anyone (just like a firearm…..for the most part)

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      • Well you could go about it a different way.

        I’ve done the same thing to Roosh…but I don’t personally attacked him.

        I’m sure danny is well aware there are parts of his personality he could improve on. I don’t know one man who is flawless in every part of his personality.

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      • Jesus Christ man, would did this danny504 guy do to invoke so much wrath from you?

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      • *what, not “would”

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:52 am truth hurts i guess

        idk why earl, but i get the feeling that you’re trying to make me laugh by your respones…and they are working my man…

        like, you kinda remind me of Pops from the regular show…

        if i may ask, who is your avi

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      • The truth elicits three responses.

        Laughter, anger, silence…and I like all three.

        St. Maximilian Kolbe…feast day today. He was quite the man in his youth and old age.

        http://www.americancatholic.org/features/saints/saint.aspx?id=1107

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 6:56 am truth hurts i guess

        I’m really glad you’re doing this over CH, since a lot of people will see how irrelevant you’re becoming FP.

        And…….

        You’re sending me tons of traffic. Thanks baby

        ——————————-

        Im not firepower, you faggit…..are you dense to possiblity that more than one person sees you for the bullshit tool you are

        and cool about the traffic…again, you’re showing me and this sphere on who you really are when thats your priority, and not upholding the name and reputation of your military service, which i have been so ever effectively slaying

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    • Oh…hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate.

      danny is good people. His best game is BC glasses.

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      • lmaoo just saw that comment…birth control glasses……..naw, we have a liberal run military that overspends on pointless things such as ray ban glasses for severly underskilled, under ambitious semen….err seaman….like i bet you he did not pay a single penny for those glasses, while i have to pay a 40 dollar copayment and 300 dollars for the lenses every two years, and mine arent half as nice as his

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    • on August 14, 2013 at 6:28 am truth hurts i guess

      remember the guy from highschool that knew nothing about sports or other manly pursuits, but thought playing football would make people not see him as a loser (even if he knew nothing about at, at the ripe age 15)

      remember how that guy showed up to one practice, and never came again.

      dannyfrom504 is that guy

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      • Lol. This is the most fun I’ve had on a blog in a long time.

        I especially love how you delete SOME of my comments that point your RL ID.

        Show some sack and keep this comment up

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      • No.

        But I do remember the guy that put down everybody else because he couldn’t stand his own life and was jealous of others…he had no friends, women barely liked him, and his own family couldn’t stand him at times.

        For that man used to be me.

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    • on August 14, 2013 at 7:00 am truth hurts i guess

      @Greg Eliot

      “I got your WN dreck right here, Schlomoquez.

      BTW, the only way that pic could fail more is if you were holding the pistol sideways… as it stands, keep your fool bugger hook off the bang switch before you hurt someone.

      You small caliber fairy.”

      Greg Eliot, i love you man…in a bromantic way…you, good sir, won the interwebz with that comment.

      ——–
      to dannyfrom504

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      • Aaaaaaw. How cute. You 2 should go take a nice warm shower together. Lol.

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      • on August 14, 2013 at 7:30 am majorska mike

        lmaoooo dannyfrom504 is like the girl you neg at a bar by calling her fat…..she actually comes for more

        dannyfrom504 is getting negged so hard, he is flustered….too funny

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      • Yup.

        That’s it fp or ryu. I’m totally flustered by all this. So much so that I’m giggling at the fact that you acknowledge my comments.

        Anyone can go to my site and see who and what I really am. Whereas you 2 are spineless pussies hiding behind intarwebz anonymity.

        Who is CH? Who’s writing for them? It most certainly is NOT the man who started this site. It’s so easy to be holier than thou when you’re hiding behind momma’s skirt.

        You’ll NEVER intimidate or insult me into submission so long as you keep taking jabs at me anon.

        C’mon you’re the mighty CH, who am I?

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      • ive been to your site….youre just a dude with a blog…not really a voice of todays angst men….but to each their own

        jeez, dont the military offer you guys free gym membership…why does it seem your not using it

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      • dannyfrom504 says he is going to write a blog article about me tonight….pretty distubing….shouldnt military men be hard at work 12-15 hours a day….guess not him,….because he is a POG and not infantry

        serisouly….just because our military doesnt know how to apply its budget, means this jack off gets to be a glorified welfare queen

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      • Alright, can you guys take it elsewhere? This is the kind of pointless feud that drives away quality commenters and gives a blog a black mark.

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      • it’s your fault for letting him write for you. this site’s credibility is now gone.

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      • Ryu is way more intelligent than this, Danny.

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      • “it’s your fault for letting him write for you. this site’s credibility is now gone.”

        Oh, shit, Danny’s a plant. That is some long term planning, dude.

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    • REMF is Rear Echelon Mother F*cker.

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    • dannyfrom504 is the PUA equivalent of this dude (ya know,…like saying how he sleeps with 20 girls a night)

      http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/navy-seal-copypasta

      interestingly enough, a user of this meme is a mestizo….

      but i bet dannyfrom504 was this kinda dude when younger

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  52. on August 13, 2013 at 11:32 pm scipio africanus

    Love the blog.. Wish I had the time to comment more. Small point: I can’t classify anyone with that type of heavy-duty roast beef on his lap an “alpha.” Unless he was like twelve and she was in her twenties. Yes, great insight to point out why the male on the left is lower on the pecking order but to calll the one on the rightan alpha is in my humble opinion a bit of a stretch.

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  53. on August 13, 2013 at 11:37 pm scipio africanus

    Sad thing is, as you pointed out recently with the girll that lost 50 lbs, the one one on the right would actually be quite attractive if she stepped out of the fat suit

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    • I was thinking the same thing. I’d probably do her if I was drunk enough in the right situation as she is now.

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  54. on August 13, 2013 at 11:46 pm scipio africanus

    OK, I get it, the girls is the alpha- interesting.Little curve ball there

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  55. Heariste, My heart feels sorry for you and in fact the entirety of western civilization. Low, the end is near!

    To label the guy of on the right alpha is a trumpet sound of the apocalypse.

    I had a situation the other day where I was sitting in a doctors surgery and this guy started to threaten me with profanity and violence because his gf told him I was checking her out. She looked just like the “women” in this photo. I didn’t even look at her to begin with.

    Seriously what the fuck has the world come to? Surely the definition of alpha is a guy who wouldn’t even pay any attention to such sea-donkeys? Times must be desperate to bring alpha into the realms of such relativism.

    The end is near.

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    • Do people even know how to read anymore? The article clearly states that the girl on the right is the “Alpha”. It’s not even subtext, just pure text.

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  56. CH threw me off with this one. I tried to figure which one of the three guys standing in the background was the Alpha.

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  57. I say the tall man in black jacket in the background. 😉

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  58. Well fat bottomed girls do make the rockin world go round.

    CH must either be running out of ideas or is bored and is in some need of amusement.

    I’d go with number 2…especially after Minter blew a lot of minds.

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  59. I was in high school in the late 70s. Fatties simply were invisible to us. No freakin way would we be photographed near one, let alone sat upon. Damn we were fortunate back then. No internet, but loads of lovely feminine non-fat girls.

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    • so true. I went to see my grandmother at the nursing home and the fat nurse said I was the meanest guy in high school and I thought “who are you?”

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  60. An alpha can never be a woman. They are all born followers.

    Fatty there could pull a lot of men in this day and age because of how desperate men are. But we judge women by looks and she is not the highest standard greek letter.

    And how much you weigh or what you look like does not determine what value a man has. It is determined by his heart and balls.

    [CH: The alpha-beta female scale resides in a different plane than the one used to rank men’s SMV. For women, alpha = youth and beauty + femininity + ability to extract commitment from a high SMV man. For men, alpha = ability to attract a lot of high SMV women and to intensify that attraction.]

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    • What we don’t know is if fatty’s man has high SMV. He might be doing that alpha stare because he is in pain and 3 seconds away from having bones break.

      I know if I have some large load crushing my testicles the last thing I’d do is have a cheezy grin on my face.

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    • “They are all born followers.”

      Women wear gloves as part of formal attire because Anne Boleyn wore gloves.
      Women felt freer to wear slacks after they saw Jackie K wearing slacks.
      Women started wearing their underwear as outerwear when they saw Madonna doing so.

      Let’s play “Spot the Alphas.”

      Women are not men. What constitutes an alpha woman is determined by women, by women’s standards. If you think that gaggle of giggling goofballs over there at the corner table does not have an internal heirarchy, you havn’t been paying attention.

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      • Men wore gloves first…men wore slacks first, men sometimes only wear underwear because clothes are restricting.

        Women do have an internal hierarchy…because they learned everything they know from men.

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      • Underwear is clothing.

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  61. Great chairs, though. They really can take a big load.

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  62. The alpha is the chick on the right obviously.

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  63. on August 14, 2013 at 12:36 pm Oral Cummings

    The REAL alpha is the guy on the left,on the phone. He is holding a sack containing high grade heroin which he is seeking to unload for several million dollars.

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  64. lol. the alpha is NOT the writer of this post. that’s for sure.

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  65. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/08/14/study-men-want-women-to-chip-in-on-dates-but-are-afraid-to-ask/?hpt=hp_t3

    Pathology, can’t really describe it any other way. I -particularly- like the comments section. Check out RachelTRusso a “dating counselor” from NYC to see the essence of Modern ‘Merican Woman distilled. Never has a more sickeningly entitled creature roamed our little blue planet.

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  66. I was talking to a chubby girl a couple months ago and I asked her to tell me from 1-10, how much she enjoyed men cumming on her face. She said 4. What did I do wrong???

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  67. It is amazing what testosterone drives men to do. If you have normal testosterone levels and a male imprinted brain (“Thanks, Mom.”), you are doomed to decades of ridiculous behavior, and for what?

    Guys, get a life. Don’t waste a single moment on a fat woman. You’ll hate yourself in the morning if you have any self respect.

    About fatties and male attraction. Almost all the women who go to the male stripper section of the club are extremely fat. Any women not fat can get all the male attention she wants without going to a strip bar.

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  68. Let us be realistic. She was not too fat if you can still get away in time.
    I mean, if its 4 am and your spooge is on her tits while you are safe at home at an address she does not know…. Stay safe, my friends

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  69. I’m pretty sure the alpha is that guy in the back who isn’t getting crushed by a 200 lb heifer.

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  70. The alpha is me…looking at the picture.

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    • Heh, heh… I toyed with the idea of posting the like line… but my modest nature and Christian humility allowed me to combat the urge.

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      • You modest and humble?

        I need to borrow your lolzlloz’s, except there are none in the vicinity, and I won’t waste time looking for them. Can you provide me with a sting?

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      • Alas… (yet) another jest fallen flat!

        Even my self-irony goes over your kepele, my little hammentasch?

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      • So much for women wanting a sense of humor in a man.

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      • I hate a sense of humor in a man, Earl. Too boyish.
        I prefer wit, instead. Maybe a bit of light banter too.

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      • What Mr. Elliot did was called wit.

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      • No, wit based entirely on Joo hate is no wit at all.

        It’s just some weird need to satisfy one’s anger and frustrations for his shortcomings and lack of potency.

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      • Ah, nothing like a woman’s hearing… so good it can detect even that which never had been said.

        At least try to stay on topic within a subthread, bubeleh.

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      • “Ah, nothing like a woman’s hearing… so good it can detect even that which never had been said.”

        It’s called the art of the nuance. I know my craft 😉
        .
        “At least try to stay on topic within a subthread, bubeleh.”

        You know my attention span is short, right?
        I saw an opening for a gregi attack, I went for it. Without much thinking, mind you.
        It’s becoming a reflex these days.

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    • Dude.
      It’s NOT YOU
      That’s the Alpha ~
      It’s your beard

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  71. I fucking lost it at BBBFF, loooool. Heartiste is the king.

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  72. “Alright, can you guys take it elsewhere? This is the kind of pointless feud that drives away quality commenters and gives a blog a black mark.”

    Bingo.

    I am not trying to feed any trolls here. I am trying to make a point which hopefully will make a difference, but I doubt it.

    I do not comment here often at all, but I have been a dedicated reader for years. This site has been of enormous help to me, as I am sure it has been for hundreds of people, perhaps more than that.

    I don’t agree with everything on this site, but it a treasure trove of useful insights and a bastion against the political correctness which is eating us alive.

    It used to be that reading through the comments was nearly as entertaining and as informative as the posts, which helped make this such a phenomenal place to visit over and over again, even with all the other option out there.

    However, over time it has become tedious and frankly a fucking chore to wade through all the bullshit I see here. I am not talking about the usual pointed and even cutting frabba-jabba that people engaged in when arguing a point, or even some of the personal dueling. That’s fine, if somewhat boring after a while.

    Frankly, there seems to have developed a dedicated cadre of people here whose singular joy in life is to be a complete tool, offering little, if anything, except attitude and confrontation.

    They will tolerate no hint of slight or dissent before they go fucking ape-shit beserker on commenters, usually doing so in the most retarded way possible. They don’t engage in any sort of actual debate, but in simple fillibuster and gainsaying for the hell of it. It is like watching grade schoolers on meth.

    To put it bluntly, moderator…Yes, that shit DOES drive away other people, people who might have something to actually contribute, because wading through the BS, through the Scylla and Charybdis of idiocy is a chore.

    I don’t know Danny personally, at all. He could be the biggest fucking tool on the planet, I guess, but like the commentators and writers here, I can only go by what I read of the guy, both here and on his blog.

    And what I read seems insightful, and funny, and no nonsense. You may disagree, but I have never seen the guy be a fucking dick to anyone here, and on at least on a couple of occasions his comments were worthy of mention and/or examination by at least someone who writes for this very site. Seems to me that would warrant at least some goddamn respect.

    Instead, we have roving gangs of anonymous ‘tough-guys’, patrolling the threads, looking to start pissing matches at every opportunity.

    This site is still a good one, but it ain’t what it used to be, either, and it looks to be declining. Sad, but I guess all good things must come to an end, eh?

    Post this comment or not, moderators, but I hope you are getting the message.

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    • What that other guy’s problem with Danny was, don’t know/care… and yes, no one enjoys overmuch of that sort of banter.

      But the moment he or any other dweeb makes a disparaging statement like “WN dreck” for no apparent purpose, my gloves come off.

      This marks him as either a cogdis plant (as someone else mentioned), or more likely, just another jump-the-snark SWPL… two species of which the chateau already has a surfeit, thank you very much.

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      • Yeah, I think the gloves came off when someone else first called Danny:

        A) A racial epithet
        B) Claimed he was welfare cheat
        C) Disparaged his service
        D) It goes on and on…

        But, you don’t get that, or WANT to get that, because as I recall, you are one of the problems here. No one (stop me if I am wrong) appointed you as a moderator here. And if you WERE a moderator, you would have called out dickishness equally, rather than taking sides.

        Thank you, though, for helping illustrate my point.

        I am done.

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      • Ass! I was merely speaking for my own gloves in re your beloved Danny.

        I even admitted the other fellow’s banter was not something to be enjoyed.

        The only point you illustrated was your inability to read past your own weeping ox, so in the future, try not to cry “Victory!” until it’s actually been achieved.

        So keep recalling on who exactly are the “problems” here…

        You fairy.

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      • Seraph simpered:

        Yeah, I think the gloves came off when someone else first called Danny:

        …A racial epithet!

        Not only is usage of the cliche, PC term “racial epithet
        Hella SWPL
        It is…effeminate.

        It is like, shaving your back and balls
        then asking your brao
        What he thinks of
        “Your New Look”

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      • Uhhhh, that’s just bros being bros Captain Hairy Backsack.

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      • When YOU say it
        …It sounds
        Gaye

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      • Being a WN is difficult Seraph. It’s always on you to clean up everyone else’s messes, and then for all your effort, society discards you — forgets all that you’ve done! Well I say no more. It’s about time someone took a stand for wet napkins.

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      • Heh, heh… imagine that… (yet) another snarky darky chiming in on WN.

        But credit where due… a man who takes it upon his back to bear the “cleaning up of messes” is often nervously discarded by the benefactors of his efforts… after the job is done.

        You know, the old maxim about “rough men, ready to do violence” so that others can sleep comfortably in their beds.

        Time to get right with God, boys.

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      • Easy hoss, you’ll upset the kerchiefs.

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      • Looks like I already have.

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      • Bro, I feel like you’re trying to hijack my WN club. Please put an asterisk next to yours to avoid further confusion. Thank you.

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      • Oh wait….

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      • It wouldn’t be so bad if you were actually white nationalists in the sense of being pro European, but you’re not. What you are is Christian tools worshiping a magical Jew on a stick.

        So…this is why it’s dreck. It’s dishonest and feeding the monster that made you slaves.

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  73. I’d fucking go Sonny Corleone on the person who took that picture if I was one of those guys. Smash their phone and throw a couple of Benjamins on the ground in front of them.

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  74. For those of you who seem to have forgotten what alpha looks like…

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  75. […] the alpha male. Also, it’s kind of sad when a girl that could be very attractive ruins […]

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  76. Oh yeah let’s shame men who’re probably getting laid while you’re here making bitter blog posts

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  77. I’ve always been attracted to bigger women. Always. Not exclusively but… given a choice between a hot thin attractive leggy blonde, and a woman with curves I’ll take the voluptous one.
    The manosphere tells me that this is wrong.

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    • Lessee… false premise, check. Trollish contrarianism, check. Anecdote is data fallacy, check. Conflation of is and ought, check. Bland, male-sounding name chosen for maximum deceptive effect, check.

      Did I miss anything, trollgirl? Or are you too busy tripping the fat craptastic to answer truthfully?

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      • You tore me apart CH. I’m exactly the most articulate person. I was just called a trollgirl. I still have a long way to go.

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