Dealing With Hair-Ruffling AMOGs

Glenn writes,

I’ve got a very specific AMOG problem. I wear my hair slicked back (think Don Draper). When I go to parties, sometimes guys try and ruffle my hair as a power play. I act unfazed by it (stoic personality), but my hair gets fucked up. I need some kind of AMOG way to handle it, but in a somewhat pro-social manner. Since I’m stoic, the goofy/silly Mystery-style stuff isn’t my cup of tea.

For those of you who don’t know, AMOG means “alpha male other guy” or “alpha male of the group”. In its usual context, it’s a long-winded way of saying “asshole”.

The hair ruffle thing isn’t all that common in this cocooning age, but I have seen it happen, especially to guys who like to wear “high hair”, or have ostentatiously stylish haircuts that aggravate the mediocre masses charged with upholding the conformist norms. It happens quite a bit more to bald guys, though in that case it’s more precisely a head rub than a hair ruffle. The principle, and motivating impulse, are the same: To josh around like a fun-loving frat boy and in the process earn a few social status points. (Of course that status climbing, fitness enhancing impulse happens mostly at the subconscious level, where helical gears frantically clank in hopes of attaining for their flesh vessel some quality grade puss-ay.)

Joshing around is what chill, non-spergy dudes do. It’s not a big deal if you’re the victim of it once in a blue moon; just shrug it off and accuse your buddy of being jealous of your glorious coif. If the guy ruffling your hair is a stranger and his intent strikes you as perceptibly malicious, tell him “Whoa, dude, not cool”, or “Hey man, you have a weird fetish for men’s hair?”, or simply “Seriously gay, bro.” If he’s halfway socialized, he’ll get the point and back off. If he doesn’t… well, prepare to escalate.

If you have that annoying buddy making a dominance play who ruffles your hair all the time because he knows it gets under your skin, the next time he goes for it, grab his arm mid-lunge and say “I think that’s enough of that.” Cool, calm, and very effective. If he acts unduly pissed, he was never really your buddy. Initiate weapons class anti-AMOG protocol.

Naturally, most of those above responses to the AMOG require a minimum of testicular fortitude to pull off. That minimum may seem a ridiculously low testosterone bar to hurdle, and in the abstract it is, but you’d be surprised (or maybe not — I no longer am) how many modern American “men” are skirt-tugging manlets incapable of even the slightest exertion toward confrontation. A good thing for the master seducer, a bad thing for civilization.

PS Don’t lean on stoicism as an excuse for inaction or weakness. Stoicism is what a lot of wilting flowers like to call their trembling retreat. It’s a reframe in service to a losing cause.





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    • WTF is this?

      First rule in walking a dog is that you travel in the front.

      Reminds me of another guy:

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    • I don’t think you understand what a “beta” is.

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      • he has no clue.

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      • Obviously has no clue, or is making a joke. Knew it by the second picture. I don’t need to see her face to know this is not your ordinary fat American femcunt.

        Nothing beta about this guy. First clue should have been that he is a Russian photographer with a very hot girlfriend. Beta? year right.

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    • I just went to this guy’s instragram account for this set and I found a pic of the girl facing forward.

      Beta of the year my ass. Try super alpha. Would not give two shits about being lead by this girl through exotic world locations.

      Also, he’s a professional photographer that will probably trade up to a newer model in a couple of months.

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    • if that’s a beta…. I don’t want to know what I am

      [CH: Yeah, he’s not a beta. He’s an alpha who played a fun game with his uber hot girlfriend.]

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    • I would have to disagree as well. The girl is hot, if this were a fat lady or someone more granola, then I would say beta, The clothes are sexy. (I really like telling my wife what to wear). These pictures look like she is leading the photographer to bed because she needs him right now. Really this idea has very beta potential, however, the execution looks alpha to me.

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      • He is a professional photographer. She’s not “leading him” she’s almost certainly doing what he told her to do to get those shots from a themed perspective.

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    • i’m going to choose to believe that darth biggles is making a joke.

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    • I fapped to this and then cleaned myself with a “this is what a feminist looks like” t shirt.

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    • Analyzing your every move for betaness is beta. It’s a photographic project, lighten up.

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    • She’s really hot, and the whole thing was a cleverly constructed way for him to look at her ass more.

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    • on September 12, 2013 at 7:37 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      loozlzlzlol da smae th same thing happensz to me!!!

      I’ve got a very specific AMOG problem. I wear my lotsas cokasz slicked back (think ron Jeremy + John Holmes + Wilt Chamberlin = da GBFM). When I go to parties, sometimes guys try and swimg on my cockasz like a rope as a power play. I act unfazed by it (stoic personality), but my dangle gets fucked up. I need some kind of AMOG way to handle it, but in a somewhat pro-social manner. Since I’m stoic, the goofy/silly Mystery-style stuff isn’t my cup of tea.

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    • Looks like the pictures are depicting a woman showing her boyfriend interesting places she knows about. It doesn’t reflect poorly on a man to have an interesting/enthusiastic girlfriend.

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  1. “…tell him “Whoa, dude, not cool”, or “Hey man, you have a weird fetish for men’s hair?”, or simply “Seriously gay, bro.”…”

    Or you can just tell him to leave you the fuck alone and stick to playing with his boyfriend’s hair. (I normally skip the playfulness and go straight to “escalation”, but maybe that’s just me.) After that, it’s up to him as to what happens next.

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    • If some guy does that to me. Rubbing me or trying to ‘big brother’ me through some type of physicality, I respond in kind expect just a bit harder.

      Rub my hair, I’ll start patting your ass and make fag remarks.

      Try to grab me and I’ll do it right back.

      Make a passive aggressive backhanded compliment and I’ll make a straight forward insult with an obvious false passive veneer.

      I think what it’s really about is you saying to the guy and the group, “I see what you did there’ and proclaiming I’m not the bitch/runt of this here get together.

      I don’t even hold grunges or hate against other guys, it’s all part of the game. The only thing that rustles my jimmies is when the guy that is doing the passive aggressive attacks starts to whine and pout about me fighting back. I can’t stand that. These men are almost always massive SWPL beta males. I start to massively dislike these men and lose most of my respect for them.

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    • Yeah, I was thinking short term, he wants to have some words to say, but long term, the better solution might be hitting the weights and cultivating a more imposing upper body. I have a hard time imagining a guy trying to muss the hair of someone who looks like he could snap him in two.

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  2. I have recently applied a one-two punch of condescension and parental scolding. “What are you doing?” with a disgusted glare, followed up by a demeaning “That is completely inappropriate behavior.”

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  3. The classic AMOG tactic is to make it seem like the AMOG is supplicating to you. So I say something like “That’s awesome, I should pay you to do my hair regularly.” Or “How about Friday you come over and do my hair. I’ll pay you 50 bucks.” Or make them seen try-hard: “your hair is awesome. How do you get it like that? You must spend a lot of time on it.”

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  4. on September 11, 2013 at 8:32 am Lucky White Male

    To the emailer: Stoicism and its cousin Buddhism are bullshit. Here’s why:

    It’s a passive Eastern philosophy that is * genetically inappropriate * for genetic White European Males.

    The European man is genetically NOT passive. We call this today having “elan” or “energy.” Whereas Eastern genetic men are much more naturally passive and conformist.

    See Avdeyev on this. Also scientific studies repeatedly show behavioral differences in White European babies vs. Eastern. The White babies are extremely hostile when for example, the psychologist places a light cloth over his face. He will instantly struggle and fight this restriction. The Eastern ( and other breeds) will accept it

    How to handle life really does vary according to your genetics. Lose the stoicism and experiment with something like Nietzsche

    Nassim Taleb in the must-read “Antifragile” talks about how the most-well known “Stoic” in ancient times, Seneca, was also The Richest Man in the World at that time. Only when Seneca amassed a fortune through aggressive jostling, sharp elbows commerce was he then able to move into a contemplating phase of his life with his writings on Stoicism

    It’s very easy to say “Reject Materialism” when you are already filthy rich. Come to think of it – this reminds me of a lot of Elites we already know!

    Good advice from CH – I’ve been experimenting more with calling out certain parasites in daily life in civil ways. You will be surprised how, in our present age of passive US male pussies, you will instantly stand out. You also set a good example for other guys watching

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    • To the emailer: Stoicism and its cousin Buddhism are bullshit. Here’s why:

      It’s a passive Eastern philosophy that is * genetically inappropriate * for genetic White European Males.

      The European man is genetically NOT passive. We call this today having “elan” or “energy.” Whereas Eastern genetic men are much more naturally passive and conformist.

      There’s a reason East Asian girls get with white men much more than the other way around.

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    • Next time you need to figure out which definition of a word (stoic) is being used, consult the obvious context clues.

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  5. Being the shorter guy in my group some of the dudes would try to AMOG me about that. All it took was ONE joke about their balding heads to never mention my height again.
    Fuckers

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  6. I wear a Stetson, nobody messes with the hair. In fact I can’t recall any guys in the last twenty years brave enough to try to pull a physical stunt on me.

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    • Cool story? I don’t see how it contributes to a discussion of how to avoid or disarm this shit though. Maybe you meant to say “try wearing a hat”?

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    • This sounds like too much. Over the top. I thought you were sexy before. Now I wonder how you come across IRL. Perhaps a bit peculiar or something. hmmm.

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    • That was the point, wear a hat. Also, when you grow out of your early 20’s, guys tend to not play these kinds of hair ruffling games. Not even the beta types. It’s childish and embarrassing to do when you grow up and realize you are not in high school any longer.

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    • And, generally, you start to realize the law against assault can actually apply if you start getting even a little physical with some guy you don’t know.

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  7. I was at this bar/club in town. I’m not a regular there. I’d heard a lot of guys go there to start fights just to get thrown out, so I was ready for any sort of AMOGing.

    Anyways, I was speaking with this girl and this guy left his group of friends to stand right next to us and stare at my hair. His friends started giggling and he had a dumb look on his face. I knew what he was up to. Any variation of, “Can I help you?” or “What’s your deal?” and I lose. So I said to my friend, “Did you hear about the 10 gay guys that robbed the bank on Cedar Avenue? Only nine of them got caught…” and I stroked his face. Dude freaked the fuck out.

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    • “Did you hear about the 10 gay guys that robbed the bank on Cedar Avenue? Only nine of them got caught…” and I stroked his face”

      I use the gay tactic too. It’s like the vast majority of men simply can’t handle it. They don’t know what to do when a guy that is obviously straight starts to play pretend faux gay and they just leave.

      In fact, most of the cool guy I’ve known will use this to unnerve people because it so damn easy to tool losers with. It’s like even the hint of gay is the kiss of social death in their mind and must be avoided at all costs. It’s just laughable.

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      • “In fact, most of the cool guy I’ve known will use this to unnerve people because it so damn easy to tool losers with. It’s like even the hint of gay is the kiss of social death in their mind and must be avoided at all costs. It’s just laughable.”

        This is the same dynamic that’s happening with this guy’s hair. “My self-image is Such and Such (straight, don draper, etc), and this person is coming along and making people think I’m NOT Such and Such (making gay jokes, messing up my hair), and that fucks with me because my self-image is based externally! If people see what this person is doing, they might not believe I’m Such and Such! (aka they may think I’m gay, or not a stoic don draper)”

        In both cases if the guy were building his identity internally, he wouldn’t be phased by either action because he knows who he is doesn’t change based on awone making gay jokes or messing his hair.

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      • Fuck it, I have lots to say on this subject lol

        To extrapolate this even further, this same dynamic is also what I’m describing here:

        http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/6/#comment-heartiste-452271

        “Also this concept is part of how I hold my own in the high-end clubs with jacked ripped 6-pack tall rich expensive suit wearing AMOGs. I know they’ve spent and spend so much of their life constructing their outward Identity/appearance of being a rich successful guy who’s good with women etc, and are trapped by their Ego into taking that Identity too seriously, so all I have to do to shake their frame/confidence is poke them with one little niggling doubt about themselves, like not being impressed about the thing they’re trying to impress myself and/or the girls with, or downplaying what they’re proud of to the girls so the girls stop valuing it as well.”

        The underlying consistent theme/principle is “people who’s self-worth isn’t based internally, are shaken when you fuck with the image they’re trying to project of themselves.”

        Image of themselves: “don draper”, “not gay”, “good-looking”, “good with girls”

        How to fuck with it: “mess up his hair”, “imply he’s gay”, “not put value in his 6-pack”, “make fun of him for not getting laid”

        Result if their confidence is based on those things: “the OP”, “confusion / embarrassment / anger”, “sadness / unworthiness / qualification”, “frustration / reactiveness / state-destruction”

        Result if their confidence is based internally: Not a single fuck to give.

        Again this is probably too advanced lol This is the stuff you have to deal with when you’re intermediate/advanced in the game, because you can get results plowing ahead faking it till you make it as a newbie, but down the road you’re at a party getting your hair tussled or being called a faggot or having your girls taken from you by some AMOG and you have to start understanding this stuff and letting go and/or purposely destroying your self-image, if you want the really hot girls who will sniff out and shit-test ANY incongruencies or weaknesses in your confidence, as will their social circles, to make sure you’re legit.

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      • I don’t like getting my hair in my face, so it must be some profound psychological dynamic.

        Or a cigar is just a cigar. This is akin to saying “You only don’t like getting black eyes because you’re so into your appearance.” It’s leaping past the actually relevant parts of the account so you can rehearse your talking points.

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      • i’m not following your analogy, glenn. a man tussling your hair is nowhere close to getting rocked in the eye. i think yareally’s point can be synthesized down to two sentences: people are treating you this way (and you are reacting this way to the treatment) because the way you want to appear and be does not match the way you actually appear and are. people can smell the disconnect and make the assumption that you’re “trying too hard” and need to be brought down a peg.

        my advice to you is to stop being so sensitive (about hair getting in your face and/or about people teasing with you).

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      • exactly. I went bald early and got MORE pussy after. Why? I stopped posing and and preening and instead worked on my internal frame.

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      • The whole hair-ruffling thing happened twice; both times, it could be argued, were semi-provoked.

        First time: Drunk guy acting strange around my friends; he was wearing a Marvel Comics shirt, and I told him DC Comics were better than Marvel. He took it the wrong way, we verbally jousted, minute later, hair-ruffling.
        Second time: Hothead type of guy, who was a friend of my friend, walks up to us (me and a group of friends) at a friend’s place. My friend introduces me as thus: “This is Glenn, but you could call him Mr. [a few friend’s call me by my last name].” He took the introduction as condescension, and ruffled my hair, walked in some circles while fuming, and then disappeared for the night.

        So it’s not like strangers are just approaching me to fuck with me. These were in the context of not-quite-friendly experiences, and I just didn’t hold my own as well as I could have.

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      • lol wut? Why would you even try to go back and forth with a drunk strange guy who it sounds like wasn’t even a part of your social circle, or with a hot-headed guy who walks around fuming in circles because he doesn’t like an introduction?

        This is like “what’s the AMOG tactic for when a rabid dog barks at me?” You don’t have to get into it and hold your own with every socially awkward random that does something weird around you. Just shrug and chalk it up as a random event.

        Like some AMOG one-liner isn’t going to make drunk Marvel weirdo suddenly be your BFF…would you even WANT him hanging around you? Some AMOG one-liner isn’t going to make an irrational rage-machine be your BFF, especially if you’re looking to “hold your own” against him like you have to beat him at…what? Looking cool to the group?

        Why would these events register to you as anything more than random shit? Did you feel uncool/embarrassed in front of your friends because of their tooling? That’s fine and natural if you did, but if you did then why did you? If you weren’t embarrassed/frustrated, what result are you looking for exactly? What’s the ideal outcome to you with these random weirdos? Looking cooler than them? Not letting them ruffle your hair in the first place? Winning them over? Intimidating them?

        The stuff I’ve written in this thread is more for the “friendly but annoying AMOG who tools you to lower your value in the group” so ya, it doesn’t really apply to your situ…your situ is more “how do I deal with crazy people?” The answer for that is just “don’t interact with them” lol

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      • Fair enough. But guy #1 is my buddy’s new roommate, guy #2 shows up time to time. I tend to be straightforward/upbrupt (read: inadvertengly encouraging escalation), and I was just looking for more graceful ways to handle that kind of situation

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      • Well, if you think about it, touching (or staring at) another dude’s hair is kinda gay.

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      • Think that’s the point though. Test for weaknesses and gayness is a sore spot for plenty of men.

        I also understand that in other places in the world they will straight beat the shit out of you for even insinuating ‘the ghey’. However in America we use their everybody is equal FTW.

        I mean what is a good SWPL to do? He can’t really get offended by somebody saying he’s gay can he? That would intolerant. :).

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      • If he responds to your gay comments with violence, be prepared to defend yourself. If YOU start the fight, you lose. He knows this. He also knows that if you play it gay, he has about an inch of playing room to top you. And that’s what he has to do: top you. That’s why it’s worth it to take it in a gay direction, because he has no play.

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      • “That’s why it’s worth it to take it in a gay direction, because he has no play.”

        He has a play. It’s called not caring about silly little gay shit and thinking that this equates to ramming a dude up the ass.

        With all this AMOG stuff anyway, if you jostle back and forth and then you both give a good show you usually become some type of friends anyhow because it’s all just shits and giggles and any actually cool guy knows this. It’s losers that treat it as something serious.

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  8. “Save it for the bath house there tiger, I’m straight.”

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    • No use covert communication. Do it in more clever manner.

      Any fool can be like ‘You’re gay because you touch another man durrrrrrr”.

      Basically it’s agree and amplify. When he starts touching to establish dominance, you turn it around by SUGGESTING he’s a homo and being ultra super gay back to make him look like a faggy clown.

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  9. on September 11, 2013 at 9:05 am RappaccinisDaughter

    On the other hand, if a WOMAN messes with your hair, or rubs your bald head, that’s a pretty serious indication of interest. I don’t think I’ve ever touched a man’s hairdo (or lack thereof) if I wasn’t at least a little bit attracted.

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    • LOL. Don’t you think it’s a little bit too forward?

      Why not wait for him to show interest? Believe me, if he does he won’t refrain. Why jump the gun?

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      • It is forward… although it probably wouldn’t be unwelcome. But think about all the times you’ve had a guy mess around with your hair when you’re out… it’s better/easier to let them touch your head first. Lol

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      • on September 11, 2013 at 4:15 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        It’s a little forward, but it’s deniable. It’s one of those “I’m flirting with you. I know it, you know it…DOGS know it…but if you’re not interested and you blow me off, I’ll be able to walk out of here with my dignity intact.” It’s plausibly deniable. It usually goes down a little bit like this:

        We’ve been chatting for a while. The conversational topic we’ve been having has reached sort of a logical conclusion, and there’s a brief silence. With a serious look on my face, I say “Every time I see a buzz cut like that, I am overwhelmed with the desire to pet it.” Or: “You have the most perfect wavy ringlets. I have the most incredible, childlike desire to pull one and make a ‘boing’ noise.” Or: “I like that you’ve shaven your head bald. Looks badass. What I want to know is, is it good luck to rub it?”

        Then I hold up my hand, not all the way into their personal space, just about chin level to myself. And I pause. Not once, not ONE TIME, has the man in question ever done anything but smirk and incline his head towards me, offering the coif up for molestation.

        I’m prepared to accept a “no” with grace, but that just hasn’t happened yet.

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  10. damn brah, you gave me some intense feels.

    (srs)

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  11. Oboy, here come the eBadass crew, ready to throw down at a friendly fun house party because someone people like in their social circle dared to tool them in a friendly fun (if annoying) way. UNLEASH THE HOUNDS OF HELL AND BURN THE HOUSE TO THE GROUND I HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS AND AM INVITED TO SO MANY PARTIES YOU GUYZ BECAUSE I HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS SO WELL NOW WHERE’S MY MOLOTOV COCKTAIL!!!?!?!

    Here’s how you handle it:

    1) Internally: your hair is gay anyway. Does that make you sad? Is your whole identity based around being a Don Draper lookalike? Will girls not LIKE you if your hair is messy or if I don’t think it’s cool? Is your whole fucking self-worth based on how perfect your hair is combed? What if I just ran a shaver thru half of it? Would you cry like a little bitch and stop going to parties and stop talking to girls and throw a fist at me because you’re so attached to your external shit that if anyone fucks with it it DESTROYS you? What if I spill a drink on your shirt? What if I tell you your shoes aren’t cool? What if a girl makes fun of your car? You are not your fucking khakis.

    2) Externally: leave it messed and turn to the nearest girls and stoically deadpan “girls. My buddy just messed up my incredible hair. Does it look ridiculous? It does, doesn’t it. Now how am I going to lose my virginity, with this terrible hair? I can already see that you no longer want anything to do with me, when you used to love me. Fix my hair for me, so I’m worthy of love again.” and lean forward for them to fix it.

    Don’t take yourself seriously. Life is short.

    I’m making fun of the OP because its not the same situ as a short guy who gets hair-ruffled because of his height. From this guy’s writing you can tell he’s wrapped up in the identity of trying to be a stoic Don Draper badass…people are fucking with him because they think his stoic roleplaying is retarded and incongruent and they’re right and it bothers him because his brain is going “nooo!!! I’m pretending to be don draper don’t ruin it for me 😦 😦 😦 my hair is messed now I don’t look like him o no!!!! Does everyone still think I’m cool??? I gotta run to the bathroom and fix my hair so I can feel cool again before anyone notices!!”

    Would they ruffle the hair of some legit alpha? No. Because that guy is congruent and they know it won’t bother him. They’re literally only picking on him because they know it’ll bug him and they know it’ll bug him because he’s incongruent and playing pretend instead of being himself, even if he doesn’t realize it. He’s putting on a persona externally, and people can tell his internals don’t match it.

    Anything he does that gives a fuck in any way will be reactive until his self-worth is based on his internal core value where this kind of thing doesn’t phase him, instead of his external shit.

    They can tell he attaches his self-worth to his image and they know its not actually solid so fucking with his image will get a reaction because he’s not congruent to it…VS the short guy where they’re picking on him just because they’re bullying him and he can’t do anything about his height. This guys problem is an easy fix (quit attaching your worth to your image), whereas the short guy’s situ actually requires AMOG’ing.

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    • From my archives:

      ““I don’t know what it is about my approach, but I really tried damned hard to just follow the identity building advice. What resulted was a ton of shit-talking from the women.”
      This is actually a good thing. It means you’re trying to work on your identity, and what’s happening is that you’re working on it but not there yet, so girls and guys are picking up on “this guy is trying to come off like he’s Such and Such but there’s something off about it, he doesn’t seem to really BE Such and Such”. So what happens is they subconsciously try to test you to see if you’re actually this guy.

      It’s like the puppy with a big bark. You KNOW the little puppy is just pretending to be big and scary but it’s not really a threat and so instinctively you want to go “rarr!!” and step toward it like you’re going to attack and it skitters back and hides behind someone’s leg while it keeps barking furiously at you. It’s just cute and funny and totally incongruent.

      But then you run into a lion, and the thing isn’t even doing anything. It’s just slowly walking around surveying it’s surroundings…but you know to stay the fuck away from it, because you know if you test it it’ll bite your fucking head off lol That’s essentially what congruency is.”

      I’m being harsh with the OP because he’s approaching game the wrong way, from an external approach where he’s scared to look stupid. Even if he figures out a witty one-liner for guys who mess with his hair, next it’ll be “what do I do when someone makes fun of my suit?” and “this girl tooled me for bla bla” and it’s all just putting band-aids over the real problem.

      Go out for a month with your hair fucked up, or with no gel in it, or shave it off. That’s the real fix.

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      • Lol holy ****. No lie, I was expecting people to give this guy real lines. But I get it. He’s still getting his validation from the external world instead of himself. That’s why it’s so important to work on inner game and be comfortable and confident with who you are. But this guy could’ve told us that he was confident, and still have some douche attempt to mess with his hair though. It would still be a matter of some dudebro trying to gain social points and this guy being pissed off about it. Then what?

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      • If he was confident, dudebro wouldn’t have messed with his hair anymore than you’d go up and ruffle Don Draper’s hair, or he’d have handled it by not reacting and it wouldn’t be something that would happen more than once.

        This is what what the PUA community went through with peacocking when Mystery Method was popular. Mystery can go out wearing a fuzzy hat and all his weird shit, because he was congruent to it…so either people would look at him and be like “man that guy’s weird looking, he must be a magician or celebrity or something” and let him get away with it (the way people do with Russell Brand or Chris Angel who also dress crazy, but they’re congruent to it so we let them do it).

        Or they WOULD tool him on it, but he was congruent/unreactive and it didn’t phase him because he knew even without his hat/boa/nails/etc. he still had a shitload of game and understood that those peacocking things were just gimmicks to help get easy iois/shit-tests, but weren’t the basis of his confidence.

        Then you’d get “normal” guys going out and wearing fuzzy hats and shit, except they weren’t congruent to it, so dudebro would grab the hat off his head and go “lolol wtf is this you homo” and the guy would get butthurt and run home crying that someone fucked with his external image he was building his self-esteem around.

        This is what Don Draper up there is doing, and it’s why I say I can give some cool little one-liners and shit, and that’s going to work once or twice, but it’s just putting band-aids on a severed arm.

        You can make fun of Russell Brand’s look, but he doesn’t care. So you do it once, if you’re a big enough dick, and he doesn’t react, so you give up AND accept him as he is because he’s congruent to it and unphased when you fuck with him.

        Contrast that to like, Justin Beiber acting like a tough-ass. You instinctively want to knock his stupid hat off his head, because you know he’s a little dipshit under his posturing lol And you know that if you knocked his hat off his head he would flip out and try to get all up in your grill and it would be like the puppy-dog barking like it’s a junkyard dog. It would just make you want to fuck with him even MORE.

        Destroy your self-image, it’ll only hold you back. As soon as you get comfortable, make yourself uncomfortable. As soon as you find something that works consistently, try doing the opposite. As soon as you start to value your looks, money, fashion, hair, car, etc. give them up. Once you can keep your core self-worth through all of that, bring all that stuff back and it’ll help you instead of trap you.

        Anyway, I’m probably going way too deep/advanced on this one, especially for the newbies. I know everyone just wants to hear a bunch of witty zingers lol but hey take from it what you will.

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      • No need to mention how this is advanced stuff any longer. It is but we’ve been studying, man! Thanks.

        “girls. My buddy just messed up my incredible hair.” – This instantly neuters the AMOGs attempt to belittle you as you’ve claimed him as your buddy, thus totally blowing this dude’s mind and his plan to destroy your self confidence.
        “Does it look ridiculous? It does, doesn’t it.” – You’re AMOGing yourself better than the AMOG thus showing you don’t give a fuck and have outcome independence.
        Now how am I going to lose my virginity, with this terrible hair? – You’ve lead the conversation to sex in a playful way. How could the girls not like this!!!
        “I can already see that you no longer want anything to do with me, when you used to love me.” – projection that she’s already fallen for you and you’re already involved prior.
        “Fix my hair for me, so I’m worthy of love again.” and lean forward for them to fix it.” – Not Can you fix my hair. Fix my hair – a command they can’t and won’t refuse as it’s all for LOVE and as the AMOG slinks away.

        Classic Ya right there.

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      • Those are all great responses by Ya. His anti-AMOG style is what I was driving at with my “hey ladies, dude is just jelly of my glorious coif” line. I do have to say, though, that if the guy is really making himself a pest, stronger AMOG neutralizing may be needed.

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      • “I do have to say, though, that if the guy is really making himself a pest, stronger AMOG neutralizing may be needed.”

        If it’s one on one, then ya, you might have to step it up (and of course that doesn’t mean violence lol).

        But if you’re in a group, social pressure will actually handle the rest (assuming the guy isn’t a legit psychopath, where you should just be walking away anyway before he stabs you). Once you demonstrate that you’re not phased, the group falls into your frame and the guy looks like a bully and they’ll stick up for you or at least give him shitty judgemental vibes and he’ll back off when he realizes the group no longer supports him.

        This is why Scray writes:

        “I just shrug, raise eyebrows, and overturn a palm…like ‘wtf are you even doing,’ then look away. Usually this causes them to react by smile laughing — sub-communication ‘I’m just joking.’”

        The “oh umm I was just joking!!” backtrack is a direct result of social pressure. The AMOG realizes the group isn’t on his side, because Scray handled it without being reactive and set the frame, so the AMOG feels ostracized and instinctively needs to gain the group’s validation he just had taken away from him, so he backtracks and plays it off.

        If he reacts, the people around him fall into that frame and support the bully (“relax man, why are you so sensitive? jeeze! Bob is just kidding around with you, lighten up!”).

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      • You know what would be really incongruent? An INTJ trying to emulate playful, high-energy PUA material because it’s cooler to be RSD Tyler than the calm demeanor I have when I’m present and comfortable. That’s what I mentioned being stoic- not everyone is the kind of personality that the Mystery Method caters to.
        I’m not attached to my hair. I shaved it all off on a whim earlier this year.

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      • I agree with the general sentiment that personalities differ, and high energy game won’t sit well with a guy who is a natural introvert. YaReally’s game, which is very good, is more suited for talkative dudes. However, some of his anti-AMOG lines can be used by quieter guys in a congruent fashion. For instance, “Damn, dude just mussed my incredible hair. How am I gonna make it through the day now?” is a line that I could easily say myself, and I tend toward more relaxed, lower energy game.

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      • “You know what would be really incongruent?”

        An INTJ pushing himself outside of his comfort zone and learning not to take himself seriously? lol

        But to stick to your “that’s just not me” theme, switch what I wrote up to a simple deadpanned: “girls. My buddy just messed up my hair. Can you fix it for me.”

        “I’m not attached to my hair. I shaved it all off on a whim earlier this year.”

        You’re attached to your stoic image and INTJ label. They’re fucking with your hair because it’s the easiest way to try to fuck with your stoic image and INTJ label. And they succeed in fucking with you because even if you aren’t showing it externally to them, you’re here asking for how to react to them, from within the stoic image and INTJ label. You think people can’t see/sense/read that it fucks with you because you play it cool externally, but they can, before they even do it…that’s WHY they do it. It’s all instinctual/sub-communicated, the same way animals go after the weakest prey.

        Even your response to me is based around “no, I’m not that kind of guy, I just don’t want hair in my eyes, no I won’t look at MM for solutions that stuff’s not me, no you’re just rehearsing talking points that don’t apply to me”, which is all just you trying to stay in your stoic image and avoiding admitting that guys tussling your hair fucks with you and makes you feel tooled and powerless/helpless/frustrated in the moment because you don’t view yourself as the type of guy who would feel tooled and powerless/helpless/frustrated. So you’re here looking for a band-aid zinger to not have to dig deeper and learn to be okay with looking stupid and being tooled.

        Gotta’ let go of your image or it’ll keep happening. If you shave your head, they’ll tug on your tie. If you stop dressing up they’ll try to embarrass you in other ways. It’s all to shake you out of your frame because they know your frame is shakeable.

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      • “At the time, my life just seemed too complete, and maybe we have to break everything to make something better out of ourselves.”

        “Only after disaster can we be resurrected. It’s only after you’ve lost everything that you’re free to do anything. Nothing is static, everything is evolving, everything is falling apart.”

        Self-improvement is masturbation. Now, self-destruction…

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      • It’s like the puppy with a big bark. You KNOW the little puppy is just pretending to be big and scary but it’s not really a threat and so instinctively you want to go “rarr!!” and step toward it like you’re going to attack and it skitters back and hides behind someone’s leg while it keeps barking furiously at you. It’s just cute and funny and totally incongruent.

        But then you run into a lion, and the thing isn’t even doing anything. It’s just slowly walking around surveying it’s surroundings…but you know to stay the fuck away from it, because you know if you test it it’ll bite your fucking head off lol That’s essentially what congruency is.

        Being a lion works. Especially if you have a heavy-lidded squint as if you’re bored and about to fall asleep, yet at the same time ppl know that you could smack them around if they try to mess with you.

        OTOH, if a guy’s eyes are wide open, it automatically makes him seem beta. Doubly so if he’s yapping a lot.

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    • ‘whereas the short guy’s situ actually requires AMOG’ing.’

      Truff. It’s almost like opposite land. If you’re otherwise normal and react to someone trying to tool you, you’re a beta tryhard. But if you’re short (or something else that on its face indicates a lack of masculinity), you HAVE to stand up for yourself. You have no choice.

      People may eventually start saying you have a complex or whatever, but you will get more respect. No such thing as a free lunch.

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      • I mean, stand up for yourself != yelling at people or whatever. It’s more along the lines of ‘take yourself seriously.’ Whenever people try that shit now, I just shrug, raise eyebrows, and overturn a palm…like ‘wtf are you even doing,’ then look away. Usually this causes them to react by smile laughing — sub-communication ‘I’m just joking.’ Then, I dismiss them by just returning to whatever conservation or thing I was in, and it = a value boost.

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      • Great point. I have a good buddy who is short and whereas shrugging lame comments with an eye roll or whatever makes me look cool and unflappable, it make him look weak.

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      • The above post is right. Then how do you recommend a shorter guy handle a situation like this? This is probably more prone to happen someone short (because on paper it’s a “lacking masculinity” sign). Maybe not a ruffle in the hair but a little “so cute!” pet on the head.

        From what I’ve seen, if you’re short and something like this happens to you and you let it slide, it’ll make you look beta and no one will take you seriously (which already seems to be the default for shorties).

        Or you can try to contest (how? because you’ll automatically be labeled as having a “complex”) It’s quite the lose-lose here.

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      • I can come up with witty one-liners easily now, but as time goes on…I think ‘why?’ Why waste any sort of intellect on detractors? My humor is something I share with people I like.

        So, stand up for yourself by a) never laughing at shit you don’t think is funny, b) getting silently stern and dismissive, and c) letting it pass out of your life like water under the bridge. That’s what the ‘shrug, eyebrow raise’ is all about.

        It’s not a witty line, it’s not that James Bond. It’s just like a ‘dude, relax.’

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    • “Would they ruffle the hair of some legit alpha? No. Because that guy is congruent and they know it won’t bother him. ”

      No, the reason they won’t ruffle the hair of a legit alpha is because they know it will start a fight. The term, “alpha”, was originally used to describe dominant males in the animal kingdom, the males no one else in the group wanted to mess with.

      People in the PUA community are distorting the definition of alpha in order to conceal their own weaknesses. It’s like Orwellian doublespeak. War is peace. Strength is weak. “I’m letting everyone ruffle my hair and disrespect me with impunity because I’m so alpha!”

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      • “No, the reason they won’t ruffle the hair of a legit alpha is because they know it will start a fight.”

        Nope. You’re going by a cartoon character definition of alpha. If the reason they won’t ruffle hair is the fear of a fight then the only people who wouldn’t get fucked with are the biggest baddest looking guys who can kick the most ass.

        Plenty of scrawny alphas don’t get fucked with, and it’s not because everyone thinks the scrawny guy can throw down.

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      • “Nope. You’re going by a cartoon character definition of alpha.”

        I’m referring to the scientific definition of alpha, which came from the study of other mammals. In the animal kingdom, alpha males are indeed the ones everybody fears a physical confrontation with.

        “Plenty of scrawny alphas don’t get fucked with, and it’s not because everyone thinks the scrawny guy can throw down.”

        You don’t have to big to intimidate other people if you make up your lack of size with more aggressive/assertive behavior. In the wild, even minor injuries could lead to an animal’s death regardless of who won the fight, hence most animals resort to posturing and only fight as a last resort. So, just demonstrating that you’re willing to fight is enough to deter most people, even if they think they can win a fight with you.

        And you don’t have to overtly threaten violence either. To paraphrase the Dog Whisperer, you calmly and assertively let the AMOG know that his behavior is unacceptable.

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  12. I had an AMOG experience the other day …

    Back story: I grew up around a lot of niggers, and I apply the word “nigger” in the proper because I do believe a distinction can be made between a black person and a nigger, though, admittedly, the preponderance resides in the latter.

    Occasionally, my path does intersect with a nigger from my past. I hate when it happens because I have nothing in common with niggers. I shed my whigger skin long ago.

    Anyway, I ran into a particular nasty nigger, a prison jig accented with gold teefs and blurry, yellowish eyes. He called me out from afar, in Ebonics, wildly gesticulating. I approached him and his dawg whom I do not know. In our embrace(the thing brothas do), he referred to me as “little bro”. I knew it was a power play and I countered with a firm grasp of his hand, the strength of which shone through his eyes causing him to instantly reevaluate his media manufactured paradigm regarding constitutionally weak White boys.

    The only way to deal with niggers is through aggression, at any degree appropriate within the context of the interaction. They are pack animals and, when in a troop, their aggression and confidence multiplies exponentially. They really are a people who need to be ruled, not governed, which is why I believe freedom, by-and-large, failed these creatures.

    If possible, avoid them at all costs. They are quite unlike the sanitized versions we see on tv.

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    • though, admittedly, the preponderance resides in the latter.

      Just under 70%, to be precise. (Their single-momhood rate)

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  13. “Oboy, here come the eBadass crew, ready to throw down at a friendly fun house party because someone people like in their social circle dared to tool them in a friendly fun (if annoying) way.”

    Big difference though between friend and guys you don’t or barely know. AMOG the competition, fuck around with friends.

    ““nooo!!! I’m pretending to be don draper don’t ruin it for me 😦 😦 😦 my hair is messed now I don’t look like him o no!!!!”

    Laughed so hard.

    Yeah short man syndrome is a bitch for some guys. They try to overcompensate. I’m really starting to see that the master key is just be ‘cool’. I don’t know to accurately describe it’s like not giving a fuck but at the same time looking to win. What I know it isn’t is trying to be exactly like James Bond or George Clooney or something because most people that do are adopting the externals without having any clue about the reasons why those characters act that way, so it can only even work a little when all the stars and moons a line.

    Also a big factor I think is to give up hating and not in the external sense such as actions and words but in your own mind. I think that’s fucked me up in the past and I’m letting that go because all these people really are insignificant. Hating and getting mad especially about the past simply makes those people relevant when they should even a bit of importance. The greatest power you can have over any person is the ability to ignore them.

    For example Feminists. For the recent past, I would just get angry at feminism and every where I looked I saw white knights, manginas, masculine women, and feminist ideology and it made my head explode. The conclusion that I have come to know is that most people (men and women) just aren’t that cool nor will they ever be. It’s damaging to get upset about losers being losers. SWPL beta males are going to act like SWPL beta males and most girls are going to be vapid, petty and conceited. If you accept people for what they are and know they don’t have any real individual power, you will have a better time in this world. Just be glad you aren’t one of them.

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    • “Yeah short man syndrome is a bitch for some guys.”

      This is another branch of what I’m trying to describe here. Short man who’s insecure: people fuck with his height constantly, it frustrates him, he reacts, and they keep doing it. Short man who bases his self-worth internally: people don’t fuck with his height as often, and if they do he doesn’t give a fuck and they get no reaction and feel dumb for even TRYING to tool him on it, and they stop.

      This all comes down to “what are you insecure about? What external things do you base your self-worth on?”

      Someone like myself, who’s good at AMOG’ing, will find whatever you’re insecure about and poke you with it, if I need to fuck with you. I’m watching how you react to everything and testing you based on field experience of dealing with thousands of guys, where are you likely to be insecure? Are you short? Ya, but you carry yourself well, and I heard you tool some other guy who made fun of your height…so you’re probably not insecure about that. Are you balding? Nah, you shaved your head, so I guess I can’t make fun of that. How about your clothes? oooo, you’ve put a LOT of time into your clothes. That looks like a custom-tailored suit. I bet it was expensive. I bet you wear it out every time you go out because you think you’re James Bond. Let’s test how secure you are…”wow man, that’s a nice suit. Kind of overdressed for this bar tho aren’t you? lol girls what do you think of my new buddy here? I told him a suit is a little much for this place but he looks good. You want to fuck him, don’t you? Fuck, all you girls are about money and shit. You must get so much pussy hey dude? Are you an investment banker or something? lol”

      If you’re basing your worth on your expensive custom-tailored suit, you’ll start worrying that maybe you’re over-dressed for the place, or be embarrassed to have the spotlight on your suit, etc. God forbid if I see you out again and you DON’T have the suit on and I can bring up stuff like “aw man, where’s your suit? Girls you should’ve seen this guy’s suit last week, it was awesome. Well, this is alright too, can’t dress up nice every day, right? You girls would still fuck him, right?”

      If you don’t actually give a shit about your suit, and your self-worth is based internally, you’ll laugh all of that off, agree & amplify it, or just give off a vibe in general where, like being short or balding, I can instinctively tell you’re not basing your worth on it, so there’s no point in trying to tool you on it.

      This is allllllllll just retarded monkeys flinging poo at eachother shit, and I avoid getting involved in it at ALL, because I like to spread positive vibes and shit…but this is how the dynamic/mechanic works, and the consistent principle underneath it all.

      “What I know it isn’t is trying to be exactly like James Bond or George Clooney or something because most people that do are adopting the externals without having any clue about the reasons why those characters act that way, so it can only even work a little when all the stars and moons a line.”

      This. This is the vibe in the OP’s writing. “I’m acting like Don Draper, but people aren’t treating me like Don Draper. :(” Fuck your Don Draper self-image. Shave your head or go out with shitty hair and game for a few months.

      “Hating and getting mad especially about the past simply makes those people relevant when they should even a bit of importance. The greatest power you can have over any person is the ability to ignore them.”

      All good stuff, what you’re saying here. Solid internal game mentality.

      “SWPL beta males are going to act like SWPL beta males and most girls are going to be vapid, petty and conceited. If you accept people for what they are and know they don’t have any real individual power, you will have a better time in this world. Just be glad you aren’t one of them.”

      This. In a way, learning game and about the red pill gives you a sort of omnipotence, like you understand other people and what they’re thinking and why they’re thinking it, and you’re looking down on them from above…like watching an ant farm. A lot of what they do seems silly, but none of it really affects you in the long-run. They’re just doing the best with what they’ve been given and don’t know better.

      This is when you start to be able to accept and love women (and friends/family/etc. even the asshole AMOG) despite their flaws. You learn to find the beauty in other people when you accept them for who they are instead of getting frustrated that they aren’t who you want them to be.

      It’s very freeing, and people feel the vibe of non-judgement off you.

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      • Yea, really, this was good.

        I am a short sexy slut-puppy, and I guess that my version of what you’re saying is: NO ONE is gonna stop me from having my fun. Whenever some “natural” does attempt to out-alpha me directly, I usually pause, look at him and then go “DURKA DURR!!” then throw my hands up to the music. Usually the response is to look at me and think I’m so retarded that they don’t know how to deal with me, so then they look at the girl like “this dude is SO NOT COOL at all what a joke!” To which if I just stay non reactive, it looks like he’s trying harder and she comes back to me.

        But….all of that direct AMOG shit doesn’t happen much tho. I guess because I don’t really care at all. If people don’t think they can make you care, like your’e saying, they usually can sense it and won’t even try. Because there’s nothing worse than trying to make someone look bad and bombing.

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      • Hmm. YaReally brings up some very good points. Looking back, I can see my own progress in social situations as I became more mature and secure in my identity.

        For example, big (3,000+ attendees) company party, fairly formal, so I buy a tux at a second hand store. Since I normally dressed casual at work, it was quite a change for some coworkers to see me dressed smartly. Immediate IOI from the women, which did not go unnoticed by either the other male colleagues (nor my date).

        So, some tried to AMOG in similar ways you described. When I was still younger and less secure, I either deprecated (“bought it second hand”) or said something nice about their suit. Neither type of response gained me any ground, although I didn’t lose much either.

        But in later years, my responses were either a flavor of agree and amplify, or some other response that showed their comments didn’t alter my enjoyment of the evening at all. Result, the women asking if I was going to hit the dance floor (in front of their dates), and male friends wanting to take group pictures with me.

        The other alphas immediately shifted into non-AMOG mode and we’d have a great time, although they’d keep firm control of THEIR dates. Which was amusing to observe.

        What was acutely uncomfortable was when a colleague or a direct report’s WIFE would start displaying blatant IOIs. But also an indicator that my inner game was improving. Bottom line, is to ensure that who you are is someone you are confident in showing at all times in public, and all verbal and physical interactions will naturally be easier to handle. If you’re not comfortable in showing who you are, then change who you are, by working on yourself to achieve whatever standards are within your reach. And those standards should always be raised higher so that you don’t get complaisant.

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      • All truth in this reply.

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  14. This one’s easy.

    Say ‘Hey you know it drives me wild when people touch my hair’ Then, pinch his nipple with a shit eating grin or smirk.

    He’ll recoil because that shit hurts. You also have him trapped. He can’t respond with anger because you’re just goofing around. Nor can he really respond with something more playful without going too far and seeming desperate.

    You can deliver it stoically or with pep depending on your personality. You can also do it if somebody is touching your tie or pocket square.

    If you want to pile on, you can pull back and say he should go see a doctor for his oversized nipples or that you felt a lump and that he should go get a mammy.

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  15. The funny thing is that everyone keeps assuming (probably correctly) this guy is short, yet he doesn’t mention height at all.

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  16. on September 11, 2013 at 10:15 am North Vinlander

    Fancy hairdos are effeminate. Period. .

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  17. Before reading the rest of the post, I’m going to jump in and go on the record and say this hair ruffling thing deserves a nuclear response. Like grabbing the assailant’s arm, locking it somehow, and ask him if he wants to apologize or see an orthopaedist.

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  18. This is an easy one to rebut. And a proper rebuttal will elevate you at the expense of your adversary. When the hair ruffling is attempted, simply move back your head and say “Easy on the foreplay.”

    If it’s post hair ruffling, just say:

    “Do you always like to touch another dude’s hair?” Or…

    “Stop being creepy.”

    Either line AUTOMATICALLY puts the hair ruffler on the defensive. Hard to come up with a quick clever reply to either of those.

    But seriously… if you are constantly having your hair ruffled… you’re sending off Beta signals that need to be addressed.

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  19. All I have to say is no dude should ever touch me or my hair, don’t care if I know them or not, that is some gayness and at best jealousy, at worst they simply do not like you and have decided to fuck with you.

    This whole “say this or say that” stuff is bitchassness on display. If one has yourself sorted out it would not occur to anyone aside from a woman who is into you to touch a man unless they flat out did not like you in the first place.

    Little brothers get their hair messed with, when they are like 12 yrs old, men do not.

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    • “Little brothers get their hair messed with, when they are like 12 yrs old, men do not.”

      That’s your issue though. By doing something stupid and petty and getting you butthurt about it where you have no real power to respond, then he’s AMOG you my friend.

      When you take the John Wayne stance, I call bullshit. Are you really going to beat this guy’s ass? C’mon, you damn well know in public that you’re not risking jail and if you are then you’re a dumb fuck.

      And if he’s your friend and you can’t josh around then you’re too stuffy and uptight.

      It’s simple some dude scruffs your hair, just respond in kind with about equal to above equal force. Joke around back until it’s settled. At the very worst you haven’t lost social position.

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      • No what I am saying is if you are a sorted out man, this won’t happen in the first place. If it does then weigh your self worth vs being booted from the place. For myself, I’d happily be bounced out of a place, there are plenty of other clubs, you only have one shot at your self respect, lose that gestalt and it will bother you.

        And no, a cute line does not quite cut it, in fact they deserve to be bitch slapped.

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      • “No what I am saying is if you are a sorted out man, this won’t happen in the first place.”

        That’s false. Maybe you won’t get fucked with as much but someone somewhere will do it.

        “For myself, I’d happily be bounced out of a place, there are plenty of other clubs, you only have one shot at your self respect, lose that gestalt and it will bother you.”

        So you would happily go to prison and have a record too? You should be above petty bullshit is what I’m saying. Some guy messes with your hair play it up and josh him back. I never said submit to him.

        It’s like what Fedor what do in PrideFC. If the guy was bjj master and known as being king of all that is grappling like Big Nog was in Pride, he jumped right into his guard because he didn’t give a fuck and messed with Nog’s head.

        So if some guy is AMOGing you, jump into his guard and AMOG back but do it better. Can’t do it? Learn.

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      • Nope, has never happened to me, seen it happen to other “men” replete with prepubescent sounding protests.

        Recall the whole “workout” advice that resounds around the manosphere is a dual edged sword, women like it, guys do not want to fuck with a man who looks like they could fold them like a wallet.

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  20. I’ve been in groups where this happened, or something similar like touching a guy’s clothes to mock them. The best response I remember was saying something to the effect of, “hey I don’t swing that way, but do you want to try to grab my a** next?” while taking a couple steps toward the AMOG and smirking. The other guy backed off… he literally backed away.

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    • Basically, when one man does that to another, not just poke fun at them, but actually, physically touches them, they are punking them out.

      If you are outside of a social situation and just among friends, then sure, out in public that stuff is a no-no.

      Put it this way, “if” one is an Alpha, would there be guys doing that stuff in the first place..nope..it’s saying “you ain’t shit” and meant to embarrass the man in front of whichever female he is speaking to..think of it as showing negative value in the guy who is being shown up.

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  21. My late father used to wear a toupee (more of a joke than anything else) and when a guy at a bowling alley tried to lift it off his head my father turned around and kneed him in the balls. Not hard, of course, but he never tried it again.

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  22. You’re not your hair.

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  23. on September 11, 2013 at 10:56 am gunslingergregi

    naaa fuck that
    get gas can out the car pour it on the dudes head light on fire then point and laugh hysterically

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    • gregi always has the best solution.

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      • on September 11, 2013 at 7:43 pm gunslingergregi

        ehh I don’t really know dude with hammer I didn’t go back and do shit but he didn’t hit me so who knows
        dude that got out of car screaming I let him blow off steam and he didn’t do shit nothing happened I stayed calm
        the gang when I had my piece didn’t do shit so I didn’t have to do shit
        kidnapping dude didn’t come out with my bitch or try to rob me so who knows
        house was broken in and kicked my own door down but nobody inside so again nothing happened
        never had a dude fuck with my hair though that’s just some gay shit
        when younger I have been punched in face for no reason and whooped some ass

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  24. It’s not surprising the OP is being treated this way. He’s pretending to be Don Draper, who is a man pretending to be a character whose identity is based on pretending to be someone he’s not.

    You Want To Be Don Draper? You Already Are

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  25. In situtations like this I always prefer to be the guy who makes the rules. In this example:

    Stern look: ‘Never touch another mans hair’

    Strange look: ‘Dont touch another guys hair’

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  26. If you have to be uncomfortable, let everyone be uncomfortable! You shouldn’t be the only one in the room not laughing.

    Arm bar the guy and look into his eyes saying ‘Not cool dude!” then push him back. Straighten your shirt and walk away to get a drink. If he escalates, (even if you can’t beat him), make fun of his homoness the entire time..

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    • That seems like a pretty good way of cultivating a reputation as the hottheaded dude who can’t take a joke and tries to start fights.

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    • Ok there Rambo!! LOL.

      “Dude, I would simply walk up to that motherfucker and be like ‘What the fuck Bro?! Then I proceed to give him the dim mak and watch with glee while the life was being snuffed out from his pleading eyes.” LOL.

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  27. If it happens again, remind him you use bottled jizz from your pubescent days to style your hair… try a something about mary reference even? Make him the joke now that it’s all over his hands.

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  28. The Brylcream look is a little dated–retro, in the most favorable interpretation–in 2013. I would feel a little odd walking down the street with Don Draper hair unless I was an extra in a Mad Men shoot (or heading to a Mad Men-themed costume party–and if I were doing that, God help me). The only contemporary look I associate the slicked-back hair look with is the Jersey-Shore-type guidos.

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    • In terms of hair style. I would say any haircut it better than the standard Roman Caesar haircut that most guys get simply because that’s what is standard.

      The Caesar is good for highly masculine men which is why it’s held as the standard since the people that rock it the best are good looking men with traditional chiseled features. My problem is that most guys get it when it looks like chit on them.

      If you have softer features you should look for more fashionable haircuts. So if Don Draper works for you, wear it with confidence.

      I have my hair like early Jax from SOA and it works best for me because I have an extremely feminine face with blond hair. I look like a 15 year old with roman hair. I do get shit tested about having longer hair from time to time but I also get way more interest from it. You actually get way more respect from worthwhile people outside of SPWL when don’t behave and look like a yuppie drone.

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    • Must not be hipsters where you live.

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  29. -hair tousle-
    You: Hey man, do you touch other dudes a lot?
    Other guy: Huh?
    You: You just seem weirdly comfortable with male intimacy.
    OG: I was just fucking with you dude, relax.
    You: (Protesting like you didn’t mean to hurt his feelings) Oh I’m not judging. To each his own, man. You should just know that I only go gay for rich guys…

    Laughter indicates he’s a fellow alpha who met his match. Anger indicates he’s a beta who’s been subordinated.

    Added benefit: Next time he goes to get himself a beer, say “Hey pal! Grab one for me and I’ll let you touch my hair again!”

    If he puffs up and wigs out on you, look at the nearest hot girl and say: “This is weird, right? Is he creeping you out too?” Then, once he’s out of earshot, go up to the girl and say, “Hey, I think I better bounce before I cause that guy to chimp out. Buy you a drink at (local club)?”

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  30. Next time he ruffles your hair, give him a wedgie as pay back.

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  31. Fellow Heartesians, the US government needs are help with a perplexing issue. Read the article below and please help. lolz

    http://benswann.com/feds-spend-2-2-million-studying-why-lesbians-are-overweight/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl

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  32. Has anyone tried the “grab-him-by-the-colar, hand-him-your-comb, tell-him-“fix it!!” gambit?

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  33. “If the guy ruffling your hair is a stranger and his intent strikes you as perceptibly malicious, tell him “Whoa, dude, not cool”, or “Hey man, you have a weird fetish for men’s hair?”, or simply “Seriously gay, bro.” If he’s halfway socialized, he’ll get the point and back off. If he doesn’t… well, prepare to escalate.”

    A pushing of the assailants hand away — without eye contact — might work as well.

    Here we see at 4:28 Burt Reynolds demonstrating this technique.

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  34. He should just wear his fedora. Problem solved.

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  35. on September 11, 2013 at 2:32 pm Theguywhobrings

    Just wondering, we have been taught how to use Boyfriend Destroyers, and how to use unsophisticated AMOGing you our advantage.But what do we do when we are the BF and some guy uses well polished BF Destroying game on Us? In other words, what is the Social Ju-jitsu used to deal with this: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/61702

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    • Read the list. If you’re doing a good combo of alpha stud/ beta provider, she’ll have the drama AND security that women need and crave and she won’t be having coffee with him in the first place.

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  36. […] The hair ruffle thing isn’t all that common in this cocooning age, but I have seen it happen, especially to guys who like to wear “high hair”, or have ostentatiously stylish haircuts that aggravate the mediocre masses charged with upholding the conformist norms. It happens quite a bit more to bald guys, though in that case it’s more precisely a head rub than a hair ruffle. The principle, and motivating impulse, are the same: To josh around like a fun-loving frat boy and in the process earn a few social status points. (Of course that status …read more […]

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  37. YaReally would eat me alive if he wanted to. So would most men. Total omega here.

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    • so, what the plan? are you going to wallow in self-hatred or are you going to improve yourself? if it is the latter, i advise you to never write another sentence that sounds anything close to what you have written here. stop putting yourself down.

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      • virgin in my 30s. there’s nothing but hatred at this point, for myself and for everyone else. what’s there to like in life? lifelong loneliness and depression? i’m not suicidal but i hope i die in a freak accident. i don’t belong in this world. never did.

        pua works for normally adjusted people who have a minimum threshold of social skills, not creeps like me who have hatred in their hearts.

        it works for naive young betas who may have had a GF or two in high school, or even an a older guy that just got divorced, but for someone who’s in their 30s and has NEVER had even a hint of warmth from a woman, they might as well just die.

        oh wait, let me buy a velvety red hat so i can go to the club and hit on girls who i hate! that’ll work well..they won’t sense any creepy body language at all, right? right?

        i’ve been reading PUA since 2004, but it doesn’t work if you don’t try it. for the younger guys (late teens early twenties) who are in my position, don’t end up like me. get the hatred out before you get old, it’ll stick with you for a long time.

        good luck to anyone who’s improving their lives, but some people just aren’t salvageable.

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      • You’re only in your 30’s, dude. Imagine what 50 y/o you would say to you: get your ass in gear now so you can enjoy life at SOME point.

        (basically the same thing you’d tell your 18 y/o self if you had the chance)

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      • I don’t understand why older virgins don’t just hire a prostitute. It isn’t as good as being with a woman who wants to be with you, but at least you aren’t a virgin anymore.

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      • i would never resort to that. why should i? there are men out there much lower than i am in every imaginable way (except for the important part, the game part) who clean up with women. why should so i resort to paying for it when pieces of shit are getting it for free?

        and it’s not about sex, it’s about connecting with someone and knowing that someone at least likes you and cares about you despite your flaws. and i know if CH reads this he’s probably going to say that’s like a fat chick bitching about why men don’t like her for her personality. so i’m not delusional, just really bitter and hateful.

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      • on September 11, 2013 at 7:54 pm gunslingergregi

        troll?

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      • not a troll.

        game is real, i’m sure game regularly gives omegas success, and with a lot of work they become betas or better, but some people are just too damaged for game to fix.

        you have no idea what i’ve been through.

        it’s easy for some of you to sit on your high horses and say “why don’t you hit a girl bro, stop bein a pussy”. but it’s not that fucking easy for some. i’ve maybe “hit on” about a handful of girls my entire life. i’m just too afraid of rejection. i don’t even talk to girls and i have social anxiety and a lot of resentment. i’m not out there getting rejected all the time like some of you think.

        i’ve reached the point where the hate has put up defensive walls so high that i don’t even allow the possibility of letting anyone in anymore.

        fuck’em i say. where were they when i was young? where were they when it mattered??

        to a lot of you i sound like a weak person who doesn’t even deserve the luxury of game, but what can i tell you? it is what it is.

        and if you looked at me on the street you wouldn’t be able to guess that i’m a virgin. maybe a little awkward, but not a virgin. and i’m better looking than a lot of guys too.

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      • on September 11, 2013 at 10:12 pm gunslingergregi

        money get a bitch its that simple

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      • “i’m just too afraid of rejection. i don’t even talk to girls and i have social anxiety and a lot of resentment”

        Considering your [ahem] situation, coming to CH was a very wise move. Doing so suggests that you are not as far gone as you fear.

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      • Hey man I understand where you’re coming from only in the sense that you seem to be in despair. 2 years ago (Nov 2011), before I discovered this wonderful blog and the rest of the manosphere, I vowed to improve myself by whatever means necessary. Here are some of the things I did and hopefully they can work for you.

        I will outline a plan of action but I’m not telling you what to do.

        Inner Game Books:
        1) No More Mr. Nice Guy by Donald Glover
        2) The Way of the Superior Man by David Dieda
        3) Too Nice for Your Own Good by Duke Robinson
        4) The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins
        5) Sperm Wars by Robin Baker
        6) How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie
        7) Feeling Good by Dr. David Burns (*game changer*)
        8) Intimate Connections by Dr. David Burns

        Note: This was before I went head-first into pick-up (I credit reddit.com/r/seduction for the introduction, even though I read The Game senior year of college). Before I even embarked on PUA I spent a lot of time trying to get my foundation right.

        So Patrice, imagine riding the bus to work at 6:15am every morning and reading one of those books for 30min a day. It was really painful at first man (and I just focused on this for 3months straight), but I was so emotionally throttled by a breakup that I never wanted to let it happen again. Find your emotional throttle; the fact that you’re writing this hear tells me you’ve hit rock bottom. It’s either claw your way out of the hole you’re in or you will die. Think about that.

        Next Steps:
        1) I joined a Toastmasters Club and eventually got GOOD at it. Now I’m a mentor at another club. Think what that does for your swagger when you walk into the new club and they hold you in high regard because they heard you are “Mr. So and So” from another club.
        2) I joined a non-profit and started volunteering just twice a month. On my schedule, on my terms. I’m not into the soup kitchen shit so I started at a computer lab at a library teaching an elderly person how to use the computer for just an hour. Now? I am the team leader for that project. Think what that can do for your social,professional, and leadership skills.
        3) I started tutoring one on one English at another non-profit every week. This greatly helped my emotional, empathy, and communication skills. Now? I’ve been invited to conduct a workshop on how to write professional emails. Nothing fancy but hey man, it gave me confidence and also something to put on my resume.

        Neeeeeext steps. So yeah, after this I got into the manosphere and absorbed everything, red pill this and that, yadda yadda ya. Would go out and do some approaches here and there and catch severe cases of one-itis (still do).

        Fast-Forward to February 2013:
        1) Joined a Seduction Lair for 8 months and got mild notoriety (http://redd.it/1fh9cz)
        2) Did a 30 Day Challenge (Made a goal to do 10 Approaches a Day for 30 Days)
        3) Started doing daygame (Only about 100 approaches so far but hey)
        4) Went to an RSD Free-tour seminar
        5) Read more old-school PUA material (all the classic books and articles: Credit to YaReally for putting me on)
        6) Tried to give back to community and pay it forward (**Most important**)

        So where does that leave me now? Besides a mini-rut I’m in I’m content and you can be too man. Once you get to the point where you feel like ‘Yeah, if I put X amount of effort into Game then I can AT LEAST get Y result” then it’s like a weight on your shoulder goes away.

        I don’t want to bog this comment down or qualify myself but yes, I had tons of mini-successes along the way. Social, romantic, professional, mental, emotional; you fucking name it. Still much room to go.

        Does any of the tasks I did seem THAT far-stretched to you? Read a few books, read a few blogs, push your social interactions, volunteer some, get a solid foundation, go into pick-up head first and then keep pushing.

        I think you got this man. You can start by going to the gym first and for that I recommend Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe; but it’s not necessary. It helps.

        Hopefully my guideline helps you out a bit. Understand it’s 2 years in the making and yes, let me be real with you; November 2011 I felt complete and utter despair. You are completely capable of coming out of this stronger I guarantee.

        Start with the first step. If you want the first book to try then go for Dr. David Burns “Feeling Good”. Once you are finally ready for the PUA material (it may be sooner than you think), then PUA Honor I promise to load you up with that too.

        Baby steps man. Here is a short-cut though if my rant seems too long:

        Credit to commenter “Garvan”

        If you really want a real inner game change, here’s what you do.

        1) Figure out what the fuck you want to be.
        2) Live life according to how you believe said person behaves.
        3) Reject that which does not accept the role you’re playing.
        4) Keep doing this, and eventually your reality will reflect your beliefs.

        -IG

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      • BTW Patrice, I tried to make that Plan of Action sound linear just so you have something to start with.

        In some ways, improvement is linear but then again it’s not. There were peaks and valleys mixed in and it wasn’t like I had this outline written for me. I was winging it and when I ran into a wall, I would try something else. A lot of shit-nights and shit moments and shit scenarios and then again; there is much room to improve.

        Think of a scatter plot graph with the data points sloping up and to the right. That’s what your life can be like if you start to take action.

        The right kind of action.

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      • lol nah, 30 is young as fuck to get into game. I lucked out and got into it in my mid/late 20s, so I have a few years up on ya. But I was a virgin who’d never gone on a date or held a girl’s hand till my mid-20s. Crippling social anxiety, lived in my computer room, all that shit. I know 30yos with like one lay under their belt, no girlfriends in their lives, etc. who are just starting out. Hell, some guys don’t find out about this stuff till they’re 40+. You’ve got 10 YEARS up on those guys lol

        You’d be doing alright by 35 if you started working through your anxieties. It’d be a slow as fuck process, I won’t bullshit ya. You’re not gonna’ be tearing down poon 6 months in lol But a year from now you might be able to hold a conversation with strangers for a few minutes. Two years from now you might be able to talk to girls. Three years from now you might be able to get some phone numbers. It’s all good from there.

        I won’t force it on ya tho. You have to want it. Offing yourself would be a waste so don’t do that shit, I know newbies who’d trade places with you in a second lol

        Tyler was one of the worst newbies, dude was a complete fuck-up and he didn’t have the guidance/resources that you have available to you. Here’s some advice from him on being a hardcase newbie:

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  38. YaReally has great advice, but his taunting trying to get after your insecurity move likely would result in a knockout from most of my friends (it makes me want to slap him reading it), the attempt to attack a guy like that can easily come off try-hard and clownish. And no, wanting to slap the guy up the head for acting like that doesn’t mean they are insecure about what you are saying, it can mean you’re annoying as F when you come off like that. But of course, I think he’d pick his targets wisely.

    Still props to the inner game talk.

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    • lol. He may be “annoying as F” to the guys, but to the girls it’s hilarious because the dude relying on the muscle/cool guy image who claims to get a lot of chicks is suddenly caught with his pants around his ankles, not knowing how to respond to a novel situation. Whereas, the guy who knows how to play the mind games is calm and fluid in the moment, not flustered with “I”M gonna fuck you up!!!!” emotions, which rarely if ever would your friends ever act on. Be real. Unless they’re really threatened like dude is in his face, fist clinched telling you to “say one more thing”….you’re not gonna do shit.

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      • “not flustered with “I”M gonna fuck you up!!!!” emotions, which rarely if ever would your friends ever act on. Be real. Unless they’re really threatened like dude is in his face, fist clinched telling you to “say one more thing”….you’re not gonna do shit.”

        The only guys who actually take a swing are guys who are serious legit psychopaths who want a fight, and those guys are generally not around hot girls…they’re stewing in a corner getting hammered and scowling with the bouncers watching them, and EVERYONE including myself is giving them a wide berth.

        The only other guys who take a swing are the guys who appear out of the blue and will swing at anyone talking to their girl because they’re super insecure. And those guys generally won’t punch you, they’ll shove you and threaten you…which gives you plenty of time to either walk away, calm the situation down long enough to walk away, or calm the situation down enough to smooth it over and befriend him.

        The rest of the time, at MOST guys will get in your face and try to intimidate you. Long as you keep your cool, manage the dynamics, and can work the crowd to place social pressure on them, they’ll cave. It’s human instinct to not want to be ostracized from the group.

        From my archives:

        “EVERYONE caves to social pressure (…). Some weaker people will cave to just YOUR social pressure and judgement. Some wont cave until a couple of their friends are against them. Some won’t cave until the crowd is against them. Some wont cave until sufficiently hot girls are against them. Some wont cave until a handful of alpha dudes are against them. Alcohol makes a difference too, the drunker they are the less they care about social pressure and the more you have to step it up.

        …but they WILL cave. I’ve seen extremely tough angry guys turn into children with their tails tucked between their legs by it. It’s a pretty big mind-fuck lol

        The biggest timing trick of the whole thing is to make sure to 180 and befriend the instant you get them reacting to you, VS letting them get super riled up. It’s like the Dog Whisperer says, you distract the dog with a tap when he’s at 2 and his ears perk up at the car driving by, not when he’s at 10 barking in fury at it. Diffuse it at 2 and he won’t get to 10.”

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      • @YaReally

        You’re speaking in the context of your own experience. In biker bars, real ones with MC colors, PTSD vets with tattoos and nervous dispositions, and four or five guys standing around silently, drinking nothing but water and keeping their vests semi-open for easy access to the inside pockets, nobody would dare pull this kind of move. Hair/physical crap just would not fly in that environment, at all. It shocks me that it actually happens anywhere, but I’m admittedly out of touch with modern “young men”.

        My first comment on the thread was made in that context (should have explained myself there).

        An example: some dink 20 something guy in office casual wanders in with his hipster buddy on a Friday night. Both were so out of place it was painful, but hey that’s where the office chicks sneak off to for their alpha fix and these guys must have heard about it. A bar full of me and my brothers and hot chicks you just knew we’re dressing sluttier than they ever would in any other bar. Everybody knows everybody, we have a code of sorts to watch each others backs and the gals are wet on arrival.

        I’m hitting up this 21 year old chick and her friend who are “celebrating her birthday!” and dweeb boy and his homie walk right up to me and start giving me shit about my hat, clearly trying to impress the ladies on my side. I tower over the both of them and can easily take them out, but I smile and ignore them and tell them to enjoy the evening, yet they persist. The whole time there were at least three of my friends watching quietly for me to nod in their direction. I calmly pointed them out to the dweebs, and also told them to note the bikers who only drank water and stood silently with their vests half open. The office casual dweeb didn’t get it, but his friend did quickly, grabbed dweeb by the shirt and nearly stumbled from walking so fast to the exit.

        People do get into fights, sometimes fatal, in places like this. The regulars know to not push things, but hair-ruffling 20 something dorks don’t, and would find themselves flayed out in short order pulling that kind of shit. It may work with other metrosexuals, but it doesn’t fly at all in places that serve men named Mad Dog or Killer or Spider. We’re nice and easy going, but some shit just doesn’t go over we’ll.

        It’s all about context. Ignore context at your own peril.

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      • Not in this case, the subject is some dude whom one does not know ruffling your hair, it’s not someone walking up and interjecting themselves and being obvious they are interested in the female.

        That part is fine, it’s a part of the game, when it goes physical things change, the fact this would have to explained is a problem.

        What has not been covered is if the female likes the guy, she will actually defend him, which happens and is rather funny as the AMOG then has a very confused “I did not see that coming” look.

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      • YaReally, I’m going to disagree with your two subsets of guys who will pop you in the head. There still exists, rare I know, a subset of guys who aren’t meatheads cruising for a fight but are more than willing to pop a guy in the head for acting like this. Maybe the crowd I run in, MMA guys (mainly from out of country), boxers, etc. Super mellow guy’s type guys.

        It may be the way your transcripts read out-loud which may not correspond with how it is acted out, but it read as hyper-chatty high energy attempt at clowning someone. You wouldn’t get a punch to the head immediately, but you first get a stone cold look of what the F is this guy doing, which would easily escalate if it continued.

        Like I said, I don’t think you’d pick this type of guy to mess with. (Like clowning a Michael Bisping at a bar, which I saw someone try to do in Vegas, didn’t work out well).

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    • “his taunting trying to get after your insecurity move likely would result in a knockout from most of my friend”

      Nope. I know in your head that’s how it works, and on paper it seems like that’s how it should work, and maybe your friends have punched out some uncalibrated dickhead who didn’t know what he was doing, but there’s a reason no one has taken a swing at me yet. I understand the dynamics of how AMOG’ing works VERY fucking thoroughly.

      http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=amog+react

      If you aren’t out approaching mixed sets and AMOG’ing guys and trying to take their girls off them, then as much as I understand where you’re coming from, you don’t understand the realities of how the dynamics play out.

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  39. Damn dudes, we got played by the twerking video. Son of a bitch.

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  40. The hair is touched.

    Immediately you take action. Grab the arm, “sweep the leg,” and when he’s down on the ground, you pull our your concealed weapon and shoot him in the shin.

    No words spoken by you as he writhes on the floor. You turn to the nearest attractive woman, point to her, and non-verbally beckon her over for a deep, passionate kiss. You pull away, looking off into the distance for a moment with a blank, yet determined stare, as if the world has more important things for you to be doing. Reaching into your pocket, you pull out a cigarette, light it up, and walk out the door, with your stylish sunglasses on. It’s night time, but what does it matter?

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    • Heh, wonder if they had to bring in a porn star to do all the sack sizing.

      I once had an asian eurologist tell me “You have a good balls” after getting some weird growth looked at. I told him “you have soft hands,” which was true; don’t ask me why I found that relevant, but I always found it a humorous tale.

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  41. YaReally’s comebacks are best suited to his style – RSD Tyler-ish. Very passive-aggressive.

    The test is really simple, would a a real powerful alpha, a leader of men, say that? No.

    Also, If you look like an average person, saying self-deprecating remarks like that, with even a hint of insecurity/belief in it, and you’re done with. All eyes will drop and no one’s going to look at you for the rest of the night.

    If a guy touches my hair, I’ll look him in the eye, gesture with my finger for him to come closer as if I have a secret to tell him, and as he comes close, I’ll look off into the distance, and say “Gay bars over there.” *wink*

    I’m from Asia, and any physical touching is a big no. People know that, so if they do it, well you go nuclear.

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  42. Thanks for the head massage; you can shampoo my crotch later.

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  43. Shellie Zimm is a Cunt. She thought she could take advantage of Georges perceived high vulnerability to a DV charge to extort great terms for the now inevitable divorce. But the Cops showed up fast enough to witness the non-events and so SZ knows better than to actually sign any complaint.
    She was clearly willing to try to put him in jail with a false charge for the sake of her obtaining a tactical advantage.

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  44. on September 11, 2013 at 10:59 pm Third Beta from the Sun

    whenever my dome is the subject of ridicule, I cover it in mock shame till the a-hole gets his good laugh, and i usually come out like a ‘good sport’.

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  45. He says he’s stoic. He’s an imbecile.

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  46. OT:
    Harvard professor argues for ‘abolishing’ white race-

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2002/sep/4/20020904-084657-6385r/

    “Noel Ignatiev, a founder of a journal called Race Traitor and a fellow at Harvard’s W.E.B. DuBois Institute, a leading black-studies department, argues in the current issue of Harvard Magazine that “abolishing the white race” is “so desirable that some may find it hard to believe” that anyone other than “committed white supremacists” would oppose it.”
    —–
    “Mr. Ignatiev pledges in the essay that his journal, Race Traitor, intends to “keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as ‘the white race’ is destroyed not ‘deconstructed’ but destroyed.”

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    • The other possibility is the expansion of the definition of “white” until it is basically meaningless.

      At what age does a child understand if it is a boy or a girl?

      Do any of you remember the age at which you realized you are a white person?

      Please explain.

      [CH: Studies have been done on this. Infants as young as a day old are aware of racial differences.]

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      • [CH: Infants as young as a day old are aware of racial differences.]
        ——————————————————————————–

        How do day old infants express such awareness?

        and,

        how do white people measure it?

        Do you have a source?

        Day old infants can barley focus their eyes, especially white ones; are you familiar with the Geselle schedule?

        Laying in a crib all pale and stiff like the English patient does not qualify as “awareness”.

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      • How do day old infants express such awareness?

        length of eye contact was one measure.

        how do white people measure it?

        a scientific measurement doesn’t change based on the race of the measurer.

        Do you have a source?

        Here’s one on infant face recognition.

        Laying in a crib all pale and stiff like the English patient does not qualify as “awareness”.

        I think it scares a lot of people that humans are likely preprogrammed from birth to discern Us from the Other.

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      • From the study you cited:

        It has been demonstrated that selectivity based on ethnic facial differences emerges very early in life, with 3-month-old infants preferring to look at faces from their own group, as opposed to faces from other ethnic groups (Bar-Haim, Ziv, Lamy, & Hodes, 2006; Kelly et al., 2005, 2007). We (Kelly et al., 2005) have shown that this preference is not present at birth, which strongly suggests that own-group preferences result from differential exposure to faces from one’s particular ethnic group.
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        Let me fix the money shot for ya:

        “which strongly suggests that face preference results from exposure to the face of the female who’s titty you are suckling ”

        This is why Tarzan knows all the gorillas by name; “Unk, nakima, bomongani!”

        Far from using newborns, this study indicates it takes at least 90 days of exposure to a certain type of face before an infant can prefer it. What the study does NOT indicate, and perhaps they have no test for it; is at what age an infant can indicate “awareness” it is a separate being from all other beings. In other words, does it recognize the baby in the mirror is in fact itself, and not another baby?

        Are you my mother?

        no nigga, GTF out my face and stop fuckin wif me!

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  47. You ain’t no alpha if some dude feels confidant enough he can fuck with your coif.

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    • Very true, and I don’t buy that you can talk your way out of it.

      Lot’s of guys will keep escalating.

      He punked you, basically slap to the face or punch to the gut is appropriate.

      Once someone lays hands on you it’s on.

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    • Yep, exactly.

      There’s no context here either. In a metrosexual kid club, ok, whatever. In my biker bars which have mostly strong dominant alpha types who are naturals, badassaes, combat vets and MC gang members; you pull crap like that and you’ll end up with a belly full of steel or picking up your teeth.

      Good thing most “PUA” types avoid biker bars like the plague. The women they lust after, however, do not. It’s all good.

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  48. “I thought you were straight?”

    “I am straight”

    “Then why do you keep touching me?”

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  49. Matriarchy is killing:
    20 years old Ukrainian sold his kidney to have money for the wedding his fiance demanded,and died one month after.
    (in russian)
    http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/events/1421895-vo-lvovskoj-oblasti-molodoj-muzhchina-prodal-pochku-radi-svadby-i-umer-cherez-mesyac-posle-brakosochetan

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  50. So, in the spirit of passing around the FRs I’m going to tell you a little story about a wedding I attended last Saturday. Now, you’ll all have to bear over with bad language, cause English ain’t my mother tongue and all.
    A little background info: this wedding had a great mix of people, coming from literally all over the world and us youngins were all in the 24-35 year range(I’m thirty myself, but people have a hard time figuring out based on my looks). The rest, which was mostly family to the bride and groom, consisted of older, but fun and outgoing people. I think we were 30-35 poeple all in all, so not a real big event, but that was nice as it gave a more comfy and close vibe all around.
    Already at the reception (between Church and evening festivities) I fall into conversation with this English girl, who is the hottest girl at the party(I’d say she was an eight). Now, immediately I notice that this girl likes the champagne and I’ve got her pegged as a fast one – your typical English girl in other words. So we just shoot the shit and banter for a bit and I take care to be very social and outward going during the rest of the reception. Then the whole party leaves to go the place where we’ll eat and spend the evening, and by an absolute stroke of luck I’m seated right in front of this girl at the dinner table.
    So, at dinner I tease, tease, tease and I create this shared story-line(thanks YaReally) where she’s going to have to learn my language(she just moved to my country), so she’ll be able to understand some of the songs we sing at dinner, and we’ll meet up in a year so I can grade her on her performance and so on and so forth. Now, during all this I almost can’t believe my eyes, cause this girl just get’s more and more hot for it. She touches and swings her hair around non-stop and at some point throws her shoes off and initiates leg-play(not overly blatant or anything – our legs are just touching). An old friend of mine(who came over from beijing) moves over to my end of the table(at an empty seat left vacant due to illness), and for a brief moment I dread he’s going to ruin my game(cause inwardly, I’m not all that confident). This night I’m on fire though, and me and him entertain our part of the table nicely and all is good. Now my lil’ english hottie mentions how one of her friends(a guy) thinks she’s so intimidating and what have you, and at this point I just KNOW what this girl really desires. A male who’s not afraid of being sexually aggressive!(spergs, dun take this and run with it). So, after dinner, dessert and coffee, the bar get’s rolled out and the floor get’s cleared so people can dance. I dance for a bit and then I mention to my friends that I’m positive that this girl just want’s to get laid so badly, but none of them can see it! They are completely blind to it! I’m flabbergasted at this point, cause this girls vibe is so fucking strong, but my guys just has her pegged as your typical tease. All show and no go. So what do they do? They fucking bet me, that I can’t close her in half an hour. Now, I think that this demand is a bit steep, so I say “gimme an hour”, but they insist on half an hour. So now I’m at the bar and I know I have to fucking ACT. So many times before have I let myself down in a situation like this, and I’ve come to loathe myself for it every single time. So I’m at the bar, my girl comes over, and I just charge her! I don’t remember how I did it, but suddenly she’s stands wedged between my legs, while I sit on a table, with a paw on her ass, and a drink in the other. It’s fucking great. I tease her, I look her up and down, I focus on her lips – I’m a fucking dynamo! I go for the kiss and I can’t believe how smooth it all goes. Then I grab her hand and pull her outside into the garden(an adventure!), where we have some of the most hyper-charged sex I’ve had in the longest time. I feel so unstoppable. And this girls feeds on this vibe!
    When we get inside again everybody knows: my friends treat me like a King and all the girls give me peculiar looks;-)
    Take the bull by the horns lads!!!

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  51. And perhaps “You ain’t my dad, asshole”.

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  52. A nice casual but devastating slug to the gut works nicely here.

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  53. If the guy is taller and bigger, I like a jumping head butt under the chin to address an insult.

    Go “hey dude check this out”

    Just get head to chest squat down (he won’t know what to think) and jump high as you can so top of your head goes under his chin which will knock him to the ground.

    Then you can apologize and say you were trying to do something else, ask if he is ok, then spit on him and leave.

    Helps if you weigh more than a girl.

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  54. Kick em in the balls was my first thought, but that’s just the redneck in me, don’t follow that.

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  55. Some dudes are just douchebags so blow it off.

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