Study: Women Really Are Becoming More Like Men

And, to a lesser extent, men more like women, at least in an outpost of the West.

Facial structure of men and women has become more similar over time. […]

Researchers found that craniofacial differences between contemporary men and women are less pronounced than they were in the 16th century. The researchers also found that, while craniofacial features for both sexes in Spain have changed over time, the changes have been particularly significant in females. For example, the facial structure of modern Spanish females is much larger than the structure of 16th century females. This difference may stem from improved nutrition or other environmental factors.

The manjaw is not a figment of the imaginations of CH scene observers. Western women really are looking less feminine and, likely, becoming more psychologically man-like because personality traits and physiology correlate.

So this is the world the West is hurtling toward: A steaming mass of lantern-jawed, hairy forearmed, gratingly obnoxious feminist witches. A world of Amanda Marcottes. What could be a worse sexually unimorph combo than the entitlement and irrationality of women hitched to the aggro posturing and striver pretensions of men?

The study doesn’t say how much of the masculinization of women is genetic versus environmental, but the distinction is academic, since once a woman has taken on male traits it’s nigh impossible to re-feminize her within the window of her fifteen year peak sexual marketability.

Whether it’s more calories, better (or worse) nutrition, or sexual selection favoring self-sufficient careerist shrikes, the path to divinely inspired and exquisitely vulnerable female beauty appears to have hit a thicket of brambles. And who are the biggest losers in this manjawed milieu? Beta provider males. What do they bring to the marketplace of ids that a go-getter bitch with her own pursestrings doesn’t already have? A cuckold victim promissory note?





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  1. on September 26, 2013 at 9:29 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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    • it’s a bear market in your balls.

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    • Hey when are you going to give us some more updates from that legit christian guy speaking the truth?

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 12:02 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • bernake is out soon dog…then it will get even worse

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    • How do you have time to read Homer, Jesus, and Moses if you have to cum up with witty textisms for the ladies?

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    • gbfm i’ll go ahead and take the DLV hit and say that’s funnier shit than i will come up with all day today. funny/tragic for humanity but still lol funny.

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  2. “What do they bring to the marketplace of ids that a go-getter bitch with her own pursestrings doesn’t already have?”

    A penis.

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  3. A couple of things:
    1. Sampling bias. How do we know these remains are representative of either population?
    2. This is Iberia. This may have little to nothing to do with the N. European populations you’re familiar with.
    3. This is one snapshot in time (16th cent.) vs another snapshot in time (20th cent.). This is not enough information to establish a trend.
    4. Even if a trend existed, the cause is not clear. It’s an even bigger leap to assume this translate this to personality changes.
    5. For those reasons, it’s one hell of a leap to assume that this has any bearing on changes in appearance or personality that you may have observe in your lifetime.

    Dang, good thing you guys have me around … 😉

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    • on September 26, 2013 at 10:33 am RappaccinisDaughter

      The whole thing is a bit Lamarckian for me.

      The best evidence seems to be pointing in the direction of what happens with fetal testosterone in the womb…although nobody’s really sure to what extent that’s genetic or environmental.

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      • Aren’t you a masculine female, RD? Not trying to be insulting, would be genuinely interested in hearing about your experiences.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 11:10 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Yes, I’m a low-digit-ratio woman, and no, I’m not insulted. What do you want to know?

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      • what the hell, which is it? i had imagined you with some real baby-making hips yesterday.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 1:08 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        The low-digit-ratio appearance presents along a spectrum. Some women with it are full-on diesel; some of us look very normal. Some of us are even sort of pretty. (Ann Coulter is a classic LDR, for example.)

        Physically, I present as quite feminine. You really have to know what you’re looking for to pick up on me…as in, you have to actually look at my hands and compare the length of my ring fingers to my index fingers. To note that the corners of my jaw come in at a 90-degree angle.

        Where it shows the most is in my personality. Example: I do indeed have “baby-making” hips, but no babies will ever pass through them…I had myself sterilized a couple of years ago.

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      • ” no babies will ever pass through them…I had myself sterilized a couple of years ago.”

        Certainly it’s your body and your choice. I felt sad for a moment when I read this. You’re a sincere person and would be a fine mother. I don’t understand doing that. But there’s a lot I don’t understand.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Ha ha, I get the “but you’re so good with kids, you’d be such a great mom!” thing all the time.

        It’s true; I am good with kids. Thing is, I’m good with them for the same reason that gay guys and straight men with a true abundance mentality* are good with women: I am aloof to them. I’m not impressed with them. I don’t see a baby and think “OMG BABY BABY BABY MY OVARIES ARE THROBBING” or whatever it is that most women seem to experience around kids. It’s not that I dislike them—I just don’t have any emotional investment in getting them to like me.

        *And this is where we can bring this all back around to Game!

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      • Too much testosterone to be able to have a maternal instinct. I don’t think it’s funny at all, I think it’s sad that so many modern women have their brains wired all incorrectly like that.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 3:25 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Are you the same anonymous who asked about my experiences above, or a different anonymous?

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      • I’m the same person. What other things do you notice that make you different from more feminine women more psychologically? Was your mother also masculinized?

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      • Wow that sentence was a monstrosity.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 4:06 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        OK, just checking.

        When I was little, I ignored my girly toys and played with the neighbor boy’s Tonka trucks until my parents finally relented and bought me some. For my fifth birthday, I asked for a fishing pole. For my sixth, a dirt bike. For my seventh, a BB gun. Everybody figured it was a phase and I’d grow out of it. Nope.

        As an adult, I prefer the company of men. They just make more sense to me than women do. I had to learn how to interact with other women by careful observation. I do have female friends, but most of them are LDRs like me.

        Oh, and here’s a weird one—apparently, LDR women tend to gravitate towards having reptiles as pets. I kept lizards and snakes for years. (I still would, except my landlord had a shit-fit about it. Apparently the maintenance people refused to go in my apartment because of them.) Tarantulas for a while, too, but they kept dying on me and I couldn’t figure out why.

        And the whole sex thing, I guess. Although I prefer to have it as part of a committed romantic relationship, if I don’t have a partner…well, I’m fine with a FWB. It doesn’t get weird.

        I’m sorry to hear that some of this stuff is making you sad. I wish you weren’t. I’m not. It’s actually rather a lot of fun to be me.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 4:08 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Well, I just typed a long comment and WordPress ate it.

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      • That’s why God invented copy to clipboard.

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      • Hey, Rap. Do a favor and throw a picture, would you? Nothing prurient, just having visualization problems at this point in the convo. (oh, FINALLY replied to your other query in last post, scroll to bottom – comments hated me for some reason)

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      • I never heard about it, until I read about women who have a low digit ratio on Steve Sailer’s site. It’s interesting to me. I wish it would get studied more.

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      • Lamarckianism doesn’t carry the stigma that it once did. Epigenetics is the the new Lamarckianism, since they’re basically stating the same thing. Epigenetics has been well-demonstrated on both individual and population levels, with studies showing that lifestyle choices will affect at least several future generations of gene expression.

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      • I think of Lamarckianism as a force which the culture exerts upon the genes, more or less in opposition to the Darwinian force which the genes exert upon the culture.

        So that, for instance, if, you allow the YKWs, in the form of The Frankfurt School, to dominate 100% of the visual media in your nation [movies, television, ykwtube.com, etc], then you shouldn’t be surprised when your women start to resemble hyper-masculinized manjaw lightly-moustachioed Frankfurt School YKWish chicks, like Emma Goldman or Rosa Luxemburg:

        https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&safe=off&q=emma+goldman

        https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&safe=off&q=rosa+luxemburg

        Other good examples of this would be Old School post-Christian Unitardian Bulldykes, like Eleanor Roosevelt and Barbara Bush and Hillary Clinton, which “The Culture” has been shoving down our throats for the last century.

        BTW, check out how Babs “The Bulldyke” Bush spent this past weekend with her husband, GHWB-41:

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3071366/posts

        Her husband put the known faggot, David Souter, on the Supreme Court.

        Her son put the known faggot, John Roberts, on the Supreme Court.

        And dollars-to-donuts says that her namesake granddaughter, Barbara Pierce Bush, caught the Bulldyke disease as an undergraduate at Yale [if she didn’t have it already before she even left for Yale]:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Pierce_Bush

        You do the math…

        PS: I’ve got a much larger meta-epi-uber-theory about what the Bush family actually represents, but it’s getting really long for a post here at The Chateau.

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  4. I don’t associate Spain with feminism. They should study American women to make that connection.

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    • I lived in Spain under Franco. It was rather different then than it is now. They had a bit of a party, just as did eastern Europe after the fall of the Soviet Union.

      Also, bear in mind that if feminism was under abeyance during the Franco years, it was much because it was huuuuuuuuge leading up to and during the civil war; on the losing side.

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  5. The phrase “exquisitely vulnerable” in connection with “female beauty” is particularly compelling. Men love women in much the same way women love children (and small furry substitute children like cats and tiny overbred dogs)—for their sweet, somewhat silly yet endearing vulnerability and need of protection. The protection instinct toward weaker, more vulnerable creatures is wired into the human brain, as basic as arousal or aggression. It can’t be re-wired, it can only be satisfied or thwarted. This protection drive is hierarchical and manifests roughly as men –> women –> children –> neotenous-looking mammals. It rarely exists in “lower” animals (reptiles, arachnids, insects etc.)

    But a certain demographic of Western women didn’t want to be treated with paternalistic protection, they wanted to be treated as equals. I don’t know enough about evo bio stuff to understand how that would correlate to physical changes, but the ultimate result was women losing their vulnerability. Becoming “strong and independent”, sarcastic and aggressive, “equal” to men in every way. And that screwed with men’s protective drive. How can you protect your “equals”? Why build civilizations around your equals? Why go to war for your equals? It disturbs the social hierarchy of protection and has the same destabilizing cultural effects as taking away women’s children (which is also happening with voluntary abortion.) The long-term effects of these changes will become apparent very soon and I predict they will be overwhelmingly negative for Western men AND women.

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  6. Guess it can go both ways too judging by the below link: I feel for the younger good looking guys out there because they have been brought up in the meterosexual culture, and they believe women find this attractive and appealing. A minority of females do, but the vast majority of them will only cut men of this kind slack if they are famous or of extreme high status (ala David Beckham – the original meterosexual man). So these younger guys spend more time worrying what their pretty features look like than concentrating on actual worthwhile traits that will attract women such as attitude, confidence, body posture, status and “don’t give a crap” demeanour.

    http://www.listal.com/list/men-with-feminine-faces

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    • Dolph Lundgren? Fuck I guess I have a feminine face too because I have a small nose and full lips. Hey so did Charles Bronson, did he look like a chick?

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  7. This trend is undeniable. I am firmly on the traditional side, against this trend. I like sexual dimorphism. I like feminine women. But this really makes me question whether we are on the wrong side of history. Maybe we’re the dinosaurs? Perhaps evolution favors this androgyny.

    Us traditionalists argue that this is actually unnatural, is resulting in lower birthrates, and that the 3rd world hordes still governed by traditional male/female roles will overtake us. But what if that premise is incorrect? While we (androgenized Western people) are severely outnumbered, is there any question that if push came to shove we could kill every single 3rd world person on the planet?

    Those of us waiting for our sick society to collapse may be waiting on a ship that will never come.

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    • ” if push came to shove we could kill every single 3rd world person on the planet?”

      All it would take is cutting off all aid.

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    • There’s a lot of ruin in a nation, because there’s a lot of inertia in a civilization. The reason we could kill off the 3rd world hordes is because we’ve inherited an industrial base, technology edge, and military capability created by former generations that had – on average – more masculine men.

      We are not, at the moment, able to sustain that civilization. It has been crubling for at least the last couple of generations. The decay was slow at first, but is gaining speed. If the trajectory holds, in another two generations we will no longer have the capacity to wipe out the hordes.

      Looking at what you have is short term thinking. Looking at the rate of change is mid-term, and looking at the rate of change of the rate of change is long-term. Long-term doesn’t look good.

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    • I don’t think its evolution causing this. Just look at the unisex direction the controlling elites are pushing society towards. They’re already talking about having unisex bathrooms in school, inherent gender roles as a myth, pushing androgyny in music and movies, transsexuals and cross-dressers. The deliberate masculation of women , and feminization of men seems to be a deliberate plan.

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    • on September 26, 2013 at 4:03 pm gunslingergregi

      is there any question that if push came to shove we could kill every single 3rd world person on the planet?””””””””’

      as of now yea

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  8. It’s really sad 😦
    I believe it’s because we’re maladapted to this kind of world.
    We’re meant to be marrying young and having children young and spending our lives caring for our families.

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  9. I think the lower betas are doing great. Its the upper betas lesser alphas who are getting the short end of the stick. Every single careerist shrike I know has a Herb at home.

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    • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The hissy fits are entertaining beyond belief.

      This chick may be a little dago-y, but man she gets it.

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      • This whole thing is just too horrifying to contemplate. I swear, if I go over to someone’s house and I see this book on their bookshelf, I’m going to have to leave. –MadPiglet

        Yeah, like I’d want to get involved with a broad who goes by the handle “Mad Piglet”…

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      • I LOL’d

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      • I’m sure most of the criticism is from women who are about 40 pounds overweight, tattoos, piercings, and unflattering hairdos. They’re the female equivalent of greasy, overweight bubbas demanding tens rim them to redeem themselves as women..

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    • You can hear feminists’ shrill replies, “OMG, someone save her! He doesn’t cook, clean up after her and worship her! Poor girl!” (feminist goes home to empty household or emasculated boyfriend that she continues to blame her life problems on.

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      • I may be able to lend some insight as I have seen the show. He DOES worship her. He’s extremely kind and giving to her, and is constantly showing her affection. I find it to be a product of the fact that she is a good mother, housewife, and maintains herself as beautiful and thin as she can.

        What feminists don’t understand is that you must be of value in order to deserve praise….you are not intrinsically valuable…that’s the problem: women are given the message that existing is enough. It is not.

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      • I haven’t watched the show but I might now! Seems like a positive example of a good marriage in the media, for once.

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      • Clearly. but what happens when you try to pass that message to the sisterhood ?

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      • I have no idea. I don’t really encounter a lot of those women…even my party friends hate feminists. It is totally a northern USA thing….down where I live you’d be harder pressed to find a nice guy than you would a nice girl.

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      • In the end, its no different than simply giving what you expect in return. I have a marriage like this as well and my wife is a beautiful woman too. I also treat her well and show her a lot of affection because I am simply moved to do so because she returns it in more than equal amounts. She’s the only woman I’ve ever known I would take a bullet for. Feminists just don’t get it because they don’t want to. They expect platinum rewards for leaden effort.

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    • Good link man, the husband ‘barely views her as human’

      Ha, did you notice the hypocritical links on the side, about man-child and sesame street being thrilling?
      http://eruditeknight.wordpress.com/2013/09/26/wow-jezebel-feminist-hypocrisy/

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    • The first comment: “”if a man comes home and there’s no dinner on the table, and his wife is on the phone, watching TV, or on the computer ignoring him, he won’t feel respected.”

      Well, he needs to learn to fucking cook.”

      So…

      If a woman and her children are being evicted from their house due to non payment, and the bills are piling up and there’s no food in the fridge because the husband is too busy playing video games to get a job….

      Well she needs to learn to fucking work.

      ARGH! FUCK YOU FEMINISTS!! We had it so good!!!!! Fucking idiots!!!!! Do you know what I did today? i played with my baby and did dishes, dude. That’s it. Gonna vaccuum a bit, and scrub some toilets….Dinner will take an hour. That’s it. You wanna give up playing with your babies to go bust your ass 8 hours a day, so you don’t have to vaccum for like 20 minutes and fry up some chicken? All in the name of equality? Because filing papers 8 hours a day is so much better than playing with a baby and scrubbing a toilet (takes like 5 minutes). How does your fighting for my right to be a corporate slave help my self worth? How does it improve my life? It’s so backwards it’s nauseating.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 12:39 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        “You wanna give up playing with your babies to go bust your ass 8 hours a day, so you don’t have to vaccum for like 20 minutes and fry up some chicken?”

        Yup.

        But that’s just me. If that’s what you want to do, and you and your husband have found a way to make it work, rock on. That’s what feminism originally was supposed to be about, and what it *should* still be…choices.

        The problem is that the feminist movement attained all of its reasonable goals (voting, owning property, etc.) relatively early on. But once those goals were met, rather than disband the movement or simply go into maintenance mode, feminism developed a bad case of mission creep.

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      • You lost me at voting. Future generations are going to look back at women’s suffrage with a “WTF were they thinking?” attitude. Universal suffrage is a terrible idea.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 1:17 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Yes, I agree, universal suffrage is a terrible idea. People who don’t pay taxes shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

        On the other hand, anyone (male or female) who works and pays taxes and doesn’t get it all back in EITC should.

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      • When you mean taxes, you mean income tax right?

        Or do you mean consumption/sales tax, estate/inheritance tax, property tax, luxury tax, capital gains tax, and sin tax?

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      • RD, you do make sense sometimes. The complete package when combined with womanly hips and an athletic chest.

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      • women regardless if they pay tax or not, cannot vote in any sane organic society.

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      • RD and EHS-there shouldn’t be universal suffrage because american women don’t know what QE is, debt/bond monetization, debt to gdp ratios, M3, why PM backed currency is the best, fiat currency, globalization and/or world nationalization of the big corporations, keynesian vs austrian, bond collapse, etc. This is why and they don’t care to learn any of these. That means you shouldn’t get to vote.

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      • “That’s what feminism originally was supposed to be about, and what it *should* still be…choices. ”

        I’m in a fantasy world while the rest of us live in reality. Unlimited choices simply does not happen. For there to be choices there has to be sacrifices. Women having all these choices that were rammed through with legislation has basically required most women to work to get by.

        All this reading on the CH and you still can’t grasp very easy logical concepts. With this being a shining example, I don’t think women should be able to vote.

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      • we live in a finite world with finite choices where each choices have varying degrees of tradeoffs. I.E. women don’t have any say and that can only happen in a highly decadent, safe, over engineered society.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 11:12 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Of course there’s no such thing as unlimited choices, and all choices have consequences. Some can be foreseen; others cannot. What in my post said anything to the contrary?

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      • Certainly there are unlimited choices. Most of them, however, most of the time, are inconsequential, so they never rise to the level conscious awareness. If they did you would be swamped into a form of stasis by them.

        Like an OCD who has an overdeveloped sense of precision in choices, but an underdeveloped sense of precision in consequences.

        There are an infinite number of points on a plane. Are your chair legs centered on the optimum ones?

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      • Suffrage and prohibition went hand-in-hand. There is no mission creep; feminists have been trying to control men and destroy our pursuit of happiness from day one.

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      • RappaccinisDaughter-you are going to eat your words soon.when things go crazy here, and they will, you are going to dream you never said that.And no its not just you its not in your DNA.You have been brainwashed.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 9:08 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Oh, goody. And how do you intend to make me see the grievous error of my ways?

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      • Preach!

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 3:59 pm gunslingergregi

        The first comment: “”if a man comes home and there’s no dinner on the table, and his wife is on the phone, watching TV, or on the computer ignoring him, he won’t feel respected.”

        Well, he needs to learn to fucking cook.”

        So…

        If a woman and her children are being evicted from their house due to non payment, and the bills are piling up and there’s no food in the fridge because the husband is too busy playing video games to get a job….

        Well she needs to learn to fucking work.
        ””””””””””’

        yea exactly look who’s back
        the argument for equality is always one sided this chick i’m talkin too talks about its equal
        I say it can never be eual always gonna be lopsided one way or another
        ya can’t make shit equal
        I think I almost got her to understand
        like when I show up and 5 min later she sucking my dick that ain’t equal is it
        I will reach her lolzzzzzzzz

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      • Ms Flavia: You are Guilty of Baby Care over Care of the Ruling Class.

        Please note Universal Worship Principle:
        “The goal of capitalism is to reduce all human interaction to the cash nexus.”

        You are in violation of Capital’s goals. Please report for drone induction, then turn your paycheck over to a day care facility.

        Your fatigue level will be measured to insure maximal profit on your energies.

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    • I’m buying that book for my coffee table.

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    • Of course the hissy-fit is in error. Turning your wife around and ripping off her clothes is not rape by any legal definition I know. They wish it were rape. They wish any display of masculinity were rape. But the advice is carefully constructed so that the liability is limited to buying some new clothes. Well done Melissa!

      And the hissy-fit says that clear sexual roles is misogyny.

      Melissa has done great and elicited a review of her book that says more about the reviewer than anything else.

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  10. on September 26, 2013 at 11:19 am RappaccinisDaughter

    O/T: I don’t know if this is “hamster of the year” or “psycho bitch of the year,” but enjoy!

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-one-of-the-most-brutal-responses-to-a-break-up-text

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    • I would get angry if a man spoke to me in that condescending way. I’d rather have him treat me so badly, that eventually my pride kicks in, and I break things off with him. A real man, knows how to get free of a woman, without creating too many hard feelings.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 11:41 am RappaccinisDaughter

        I don’t see condescension; I see politeness. Yes, he’s probably overdoing it a bit for somebody he’s only been on one date with, but there’s nothing there to justify her going nuclear on him the way she did. He didn’t shoot her dog or steal her stereo, he said “thanks but no thanks.”

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      • My guess is that she’s basically the female version of a niceguy. She was offended because he didn’t want to date her, even though she was being oh so nice to him (just being friendly, of course), and therefore told him off.

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      • Where exactly was the ‘condescending’? You are a typical feminist if you sympathize with the girl in this case. The guy gave a normal goodbye and she lost her shit defending her ego.

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      • ” A real man, knows how to get free of a woman, without creating too many hard feelings.”

        You mean just not responding to texts/phonecalls is bad ?

        I’m keen to hear your advice on this, I’ve got some dumpings to do and I want to let them down easy .

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    • The most alphas guys don’t officially break up with you. You never had them tied down to begin with.

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      • ^this. This is how you get the MLTR, the soft harem, and make them last. Attrition is unavoidable, but if you keep your pipeline flowing, it’s all good.

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      • So you’re criticizing the guy for being informative and honest? Yes I know it turns off the juices, which may be why we saw such a flood of bullshit from her. He suddenly became beta to her, and the shit started. (my interpretation anyway.)

        But he was willing to go thru it, for the sake of honesty. He can feel good that he did nothing wrong to this girl and, indeed, she can move on.

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      • The more I think about it, the more I think I am right. What did she react to the worst? The nice compliment at the end, calling her a cool girl.

        Maybe there’s never a reason to compliment a girl. It’s always a risk. He complimented her and she went after him with claws out in return.

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      • I would prefer he told me he couldn’t make it to my birthday party due to a broken leg, or that he came down with a major illness, and then I found out it wasn’t true. That’s just me, if you are going to reject me, at least let me have a good story to tell.

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      • His text just seemed a little self important, that’s all. He’s probably a nice guy.

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      • i hope to hell i sound self important when breaking up with a broad.

        thats the point…..owe a bitch nada. in human relationships and especially in this time and place, you all are the weak links in the chain.

        sheesh.

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      • The only way to tie down an alpha is marriage, kids and no prenuptial agreement. Also toleration of mistresses and cheating… just look at Arnold, Silvio and the Clintons.

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    • Normally I think it’s wrong to posts pictures of exes online, but when this bitch has one of her exes send her intimate pictures to her boss, I will laugh. The “send things to peoples bosses to get them fired” is going to end with someone getting killed with a whole lot of articles about victim blaming shortly following.

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    • The same sort of thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago.

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    • The only possible reply to that tl;dr text would be “stay away from my bunny”.

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    • She lives in DC, ugh. She is only 26 which, sorry ladies, is a girl. She is infantilizing herself by acting like a big baby. She gave him her CV (2 books and a condo) like she was a guy. And then is proud of herself at probably getting him in trouble at work.

      The dude probably saw her crazy eyes and was doing damage control by dumping her. Hopefully his boss is a man and understands.

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    • He probably saw some trappings of “crazy” in the short time they spent together. And in typical SWPL DC chick fashion he is soooooo paralyzed by an alpha dude who, politely, tells her to keep walking. And again in typical DC chick fashion we get the laundry list of accomplishments because their entire soul is intricately tied to career and resume. It is why career negs are absolute olgd nuggets in this city.

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    • Wow. Butt fugly AND entitled. Two great tastes that taste great together- it’s like a typical DC candy bar.

      I hope he used a condom on her condo.

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  11. Estrogen in the water…been saying this shit for years.

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    • Not just in the water–in plastics, in paint fumes, in skin care products. It’s fuggin’ everywhere.

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    • Women need to quit pissing birth control hormones into the water supply.

      Contraceptives have ruined both sexes.

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    • Why would more estrogen exposure make women more masculine? Are we in bizarro world?

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      • Excess testosterone can turn into estrogen, but I’m quite sure it doesn’t work the other way.

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      • Bob had bitch tits…..

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      • Any fiddling with the hormonal balance will screw up how it would be naturally and optimally, and thereby pull either sex toward a neutral androgynous state.

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      • Estrogen is what causes the growth plates on bones to fuse and growth to stop. So fiddling a bit to prevent testosterone turning to estrogen in adolescence could have a beneficial effect of becoming taller than you were “supposed” to be.

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      • i know _nothing_ about it but maybe it could have more to do with imbalance than with the absolute value of estrogen. i have a feeling there’s a natural balance and anything differentiating from that leads to less feminine differences.

        if estrogen just made them more and more feminine i’d be spiking every drink in town and looking at boobs all day.

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      • More xeno-estrogen (from the outside) means the body has to use comparatively less resources to make its own estrogen, leaving more raw materials to make more testosterone. In other words, less competition for resources benefits testosterone.

        Also, with all the sugar in teh modern diet, a lot of chicks have ovarian cysts that produce a lot of hormones including testosterone and cortisol. When you see a woman who has a hairy enough upper lip to keep Bic stock prices rising, chances are, she’s got ovarian cysts caused by excess sugar consumption. And, worse, there are a LOT more chicks that have this disorder than we know about, ’cause most of them get their mustaches waxed or lasered off. Some chicks will even shave the upper lip, but that leaves stubble. Most SWPL chicks with this disorder simply wax it.

        Next time you bang a hair stylist or other female who works in a salon or spa, ask her how many chicks get their upper lip done when they go in to get the Brazilian or other spa services. It’s a LOT.

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      • Does the body make estrogen directly? I know that it makes testosterone directly, and that can be converted to estrogen, but that pathway invalidates your hypothesis. Is there a direct pathway of making estrogen that does not involve making testosterone first?

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      • In women, yes, they have their own direct pathway, and it’s the main pathway. For men, the jury is out, but either way, if men can make estrogen directly, it’s a tiny amount, most is aromatized from estrogen, primarily in fatty tissue.

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    • She has juuuust the right amount of cream in that coffee… would smash. Body is a 10 but those pesky Negro genes are still too much in that face.

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  12. May be because of interbreeding with their colonial subjects. In Chile I’ve noticed that the women tend to be burdened (!) with heavy faces.

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  13. The changes have more to do with the availability of food. Just look at the difference in height between cultures that have vs. those that have not.

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    • That was the second thought I was going to post as well. Look at doorways built in the 1600’s and you’d come away, correctly, thinking that people averaged 5’2″ or so (just hazarding a guess, but they were short little buggers).

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  14. on September 26, 2013 at 11:42 am Subarctic Hillbilly

    I’ll go along with environmental estrogen causing epigenetic expressions. Anything else does smack of Lamarckian “inheritability of acquired characteristics.” And you bast’ids know how many millions Lysenko killed during the 1920s with that particular bullshit. Ideas have consequences. Bad ideas have tragic consequences.

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  15. “This difference may stem from improved nutrition ”

    You know, that may be the deciding factor and unrelated to feminism or something devious. I’d be very interested to see comparisons between Roman women from the year 30 B.C. and modern women, where Rome was at the time highly affluent, cosmopolitan and well fed. Point being, if it’s nutrition related, then they should be very similar in structure to each other. If ancient Roman women however were just like 16th century women, then something else would likely be the culprit.

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    • Was monsanto and Dow around then? Genetically modified and processed foods and herbicides and fluoride being ingested daily have disastrous effects on everything in our bodies. It would be interesting to compare to Romans of 30BC but you’d have to control for toxins. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t eaten some amount of MSG.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 3:13 pm Cad and Bounder

        Please! This is not Oprah, Dr Phil or even some quack throwing around medical advice on youtube. This is not some feminist forum for abusing the ‘patriarchy’ and its annoying insistence on actually using rational scientific methodology to make decisions.

        CH’s blog is categorized by his use of citation and scientific evidence in order to back up his arguments. So if you are going to make comments about Monsanto or Dow Chemicals then lets back them up with facts.

        Here is the view of one of the leading medical bodies in the U.S. on MSG

        http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/monosodium-glutamate/AN01251

        I trust the FDA. I do not trust the media and they way they are abusing science.

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      • Monsanto shill.

        The last director of the FDA scolded the American people for trusting them. Get your head out of your ass.

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    • Roman men averaged between 5’4″ and 5’6″ and Germans were about 3-5″ taller on average. I would make an educated guess, the average Roman hottie was about 5″ and 90 lbs, not unlike petite and young Vietnamese women. I bet that was some tight pussy.

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      • Average height in medieval armies involving France and England mostly put the average height between 5-3 to 5-5, the outliers were varangian and other Norsemen who were slightly taller, not 3-5 inch taller. Their champions though were mountain men for their time. The germans in roman times were taller but 3-5 inch seems too high, plus during the later imperial epoch, germans were everywhere inside the borders, and rome herself had huge amount of germans, the army was full of germans so that should boost the average roman height too. But the germans in germania proper being the external barbarian savage they had to do with less resources and thus can’t be too tall.

        Unlike what most people think, in most cases the conquerors in history are not usually taller or physically bigger, the conquered are usually better fed and thus healthier and bugger because of their existing resources and luxury which is why they attract attention in the first place of foreigners who rely on a cost effective, pragmatic spartan way of life which in turn makes them more effective and vicious.

        Based on my general study of history.

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      • I don’t think these height figures are overtstated at all. He gave a range for a reason. BTW, Rodrigo, El Sid is spelled El Cid.

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    • Barbarians and mountain folk ate mostly fresh meat and fish, were taller and had better teeth. Germans were notably taller than the Romans in every publication of the time.

      Civilized areas that ate grains had shorter populations and were susceptible to diseases due to lower immune systems, higher population densities coupled with poorer environmental hygiene (even with the much vaunted aqueducts). The best and freshest foods, fruits went to the nobles, the wealthy families and high ranking military commanders.

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  16. OT – A girl with streaked hair signals sexual availability right?

    So if an ex whos never streaked her hair in 24 years suddenly streaks her hair and sends you a lot of pics out of the blue, does that mean you get a shot at revenge sex?

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    • Why would you want to bang a 40 y.o. woman?

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      • Not everybody here is 18 years old and thinks people over 30 are “icky”. There are plenty of very attractive 35+ year old women. Shoot for the youngest you can get, clearly, but it’s not as if you’d turn down a Barbara Eden when she was 40 (nor a Jennifer Aniston at the same age).

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      • As long as I can photoshop them beforehand…sure 35-40 is okay.

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      • I agree. I sometimes have an appetite for the 35+ in particular. The problem is the math. You only have about 10 years until menopause with a beautiful 35 year old. You get twice the ass with a decent 25 year old over time.

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      • And 30 years of good loving if she’s ….oops never mind!

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      • No disagreement Sidewinder. I just find it odd that somehow anybody over 18-24 is undesirable for a bang. I’ve read all the articles, here and on other sites, and I get the logic from a biomechanics perspective, but that doesn’t stop Jennifer Aniston from being hotter than a tin roof in summer even at 44. I’d bang her in a New York minute and let her buy me nice cars.

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      • You know… Not All Aging Prunes Are Like That.

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      • Correct. But that doesn’t mean all are undesirable either. Screaming “Ewww, over 35 is icky!” is kind of funny once you see somebody do it after you’ve gotten past your early/mid 20’s. No biggie though, do as you will.

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      • Ew. Old people sex.

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      • I agree. Because we all know that Jennifer Aniston is a fairly accurate representation of the average 44 year old woman.

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      • What’s fun is that some day, you’re going to get older. And you won’t realize it until it’s far too late to do anything about it. 😉

        Not that I actually care, I go out with 20 somethings, I just like to keep perspective.

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      • @Travis

        Clearly she isn’t. But then, I don’t see you calling out Corvis for his blanket coverage of 40+ women either, which is exactly the same kind of thing presented differently. When it comes to human being, the words “all” and “none” rarely apply (excepting things like “all living people breath”). Which was my point.

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      • Burn, seriously… every SWPLtard and shitlib out there constantly harps on how you can’t generalize. Of course I know there are exceptions. You’re not saying anything I haven’t heard a million times.

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      • Yet, you generalized without allowing for exceptions.

        No biggie at this point, no minds will be changed, and there’s no need to prolong this discussion and detract from the rest of the thread.

        Slainte

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    • but but……..she is 24 years old !

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      • There are indeed attractive & available women over 35.
        Maybe 5% of the total.
        Problem is, they have no interest whatsoever in men their own age or older, and try to compete instead with the 20-something hardbody hotties for the 22-year old bartenders, cops, body builders, football players, etc.
        If her genes are good, the make-up’s good, the lights are lo and the guy’s a little smashed and/or horny, they succeed.
        Much more easily than a comparable man doing the same thing.

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  17. Sift through any page of user-submitted Chivette photos over at thechive.com and you will see a lot of Man-Chins, too.

    Wide at the point, longer distance from the lower-lip than they should be. Sometimes even cleft, instead of convex. Sad.

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  18. Isn’t Cheaters fake?

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  19. Id like to see how different xenoestrogens affect humans:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenoestrogen

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  20. on September 26, 2013 at 1:22 pm Johnycomelately

    What’s the issue, Western women will die off and the Eastern women will predominate.

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  21. amanda marcotte has the same jawline as actor james cromwell.

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  22. Going out on limb here, but back when a woman’s brood was limited by number of live births before she died in childbirth, feminine (as in making her a better breeding mare) traits would be selected for. Take away that pressure, and it doesn’t take much femininity to achieve above average fertility.

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    • Errr. Lots of factors limited brood size. And women who die during childbirth are at an evolutionary disadvantage – her genes don’t survive if no one’s there to raise her children.

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      • That’s the point. Feminine looks are a signal that she is more womanly, hence “better” at getting pregnant and giving birth, hence less likely to die in childbirth, as well as more fertile to begin with. A possible downside in more complex societies, may well be that, the cranium being the largest part of a baby’s body, hence the part most likely to cause tears leading to bleeding and infections leading to death; there may have been a built in bias towards mating with women smaller heads, smaller brains, and less smarts….

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  23. ANDDD the frivorce bomb drops again!
    This hits hard damn it. So close to home.

    Good family friend, great guy, beta as fuck but a genuinely good person.
    Beta wife but becomes stay at home mom. Starts working out, gets the nose job, the boob work, girls night out, happy hour. Etc.

    Tells him “need to find myself” and “I don’t have feelings for you anymore”

    Saw her out at restaurant bar with no wedding ring on 2 yrs ago. Kept my mouth shut. The signs were there.

    He makes 300k as lawyer working 65 plus hours a week to PROVIDE for his 2 daughters and probably cuckolding wife.

    They are in counseling now. He’s in a real bad situation as she hasn’t worked. Alimony up the ASS.

    He needs to detonate and get fired. Needs to tell her “need to find myself, bitch”

    She was no carouseler, been with get since she was 19. Was corrupted by lifestyle and the fucking cathedral. Another beta man on his way to destruction and catharsis.

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  24. Here’s a good Q for ya’ll:

    So….how do you kno if things a girl says, such as ‘I’ve never done X, felt X, etc. before’ are true?

    Clearly some girls must lie about this. But at the same time, there’s a first time for everything.

    I ask b/c my behavior is becoming increasingly assholish and narcissistic — like, the more I get these girls to do for me, the more I want them to do….just cause — but, it’s seeming to work on every level. Some of the sex has just been insane…..to the point where I can’t even look at these people the same way lol how can you? It’s like living another life.

    So anyway, there’s been a surge of comments like those recently and I was wondering ‘well how the fuck do I kno if these bishes are telling the truff?’

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    • Since I’ll never know, I just assume they’re lying and let them think I think they’re innocent. More often women are way dirtier than you think. It’s just now you get to be the one they’re nasty with.

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    • on September 26, 2013 at 3:53 pm gunslingergregi

      yea man uhh don’t go to far have some limit or you will be getting pegged one day he he he
      and yea ya don’t know
      but i’m pretty sure my bitches haven’t sucked toes before but hey I still don’t know
      my standard if the bitch is telling the truth or not on felt x Is tat my name on your neck though he he he
      my new goal is see how many I can get tat tat tatted up

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 3:55 pm gunslingergregi

        or prob good to enjoy as much innocent type stuff as you can before moving on to insane shit but yea whatevs lol

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    • “Truth” is absolutely situational and liquid for women; they can’t ‘lie’ because they are always expressing immediate desires/emotions without thought for context or precedence.

      Bro version: Of course they’re lying; what’s important is that they’re lying for *you*.

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      • Ok, but this creates a weird pussy paradox does it not?

        Can a woman have a first of nothing, then? Just saying. It’s kind of interesting.

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 5:32 pm gunslingergregi

        when they feed me at table and shit I know it is prob there first time
        innocent yet first timy lol
        when they jump off the top my truck and I catch em prob their first time
        when they see you and run and jump into your arms and you never see bitches do that not in movies it might be their first time
        if you tell the bitch to leave and she stops breathin it might be the first time he he he

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      • on September 26, 2013 at 5:49 pm gunslingergregi

        do a survey how many dudes have been shaved by a chick
        had her wash them in shower
        had her do his nails toes and finger
        how many dudes got haircuts from their bitches
        massages
        fixes your hair up when ya go out
        puts the deodorant on and cologne
        drys you with towel
        writes love notes
        draws pictures for ya
        given a manincure out the blue at amusment park resteraunt and shit everyone lookin jealous and shit
        had your back to the death
        took responsibility for some shit instead of passing it onto you
        picked up a bitch for you
        when the bitch tries to touch her tits and shit she tells her to fuck off cause she know you don’t like it and like all the attention on you
        when waters out carrys the water in for baths by hand from neighbor
        when she sees you got a boo boo she grabs the alchohol and applies it and cleans the cut and shit
        pops your zits
        plucks your grey hairs
        cleans out the nose and ear hair
        worries bout some spot on your eye wants you to get it checked
        tries to get you money when your broke
        tears down walls in house cause she think you might like it
        when ya take her ass to ocean and she says it is first time it might be the first time
        take a chick up in a plane for flight lessons it might be the first
        stay in presidential suite prob her first time
        how many dudes had their bitch paint the house

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      • If you’re in your twenties then you’re getting them kinda late, bro. High school is a great time for alcohol excused party fucks.

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    • I get what you mean. On one hand, when you do something wild with a girl, it’s like “Damn, that was great!!!”

      On the other.

      It’s like “Wait, how the fuck did you know how to do that. Where did you learn?”

      It’s better to let sleeping dogs lie lol

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    • “So….how do you kno if things a girl says, such as ‘I’ve never done X, felt X, etc. before’ are true?”

      Best you can do is create an extremely non-judgemental environment for her to admit shit to you. If you really want to play with fire and disillusion yourself (lol), tell girls you think it’s HOT when they act slutty and that you LIKE hearing about shit they’ve done with other guys, and act like that’s some kind of voyeuristic/cuckoldy turn-on. I used to do that now and then when I had a feeling a girl wasn’t on the level about her history and man, the Pandora’s Box of fucked up shit THAT one opens lol

      Girls pretty much only lie about their sexual history/desires when they fear judgement. Girls LOVE to talk about themselves and LOVE sharing secrets and shit. They’d LOVE to tell you all sorts of shit that they’ve done or want to do, but they don’t want to be judged for it.

      So a girl will tell basically two types of people the truth about her sex life:

      1) Someone who she knows won’t judge her (her BFF who acts as her wingwoman when she’s out cheating on her man and/or cheats herself etc. and won’t judge her, her gay friend who sucks a bunch of dick himself and won’t judge her, a highly non-judgemental sexual guy who she feels comfortable admitting shit to, etc.). Her non-BFF friends, co-workers, family, 99.999% of the guys she dates, her husband, etc. are all people she usually feels will judge her, so to them she’s a perfect angel. This is why when you go on those postsecret sites where people admit shit anonymously, girls will admit super fucked up disturbing shit…there’s no judgement when they’re anonymous.

      Keep in mind that she may also judge/shame HERSELF, especially if she’s in a logical headspace, like being in a brightly lit science lab filling out a survey on her sexual history where she’ll bullshit a bunch of stuff and/or have actually rewritten her history via her hamster in her head. But put a girl in a situ where she’s a couple drinks in, horny, and in private with a kinky/freaky sexual guy she trusts won’t judge her or will enjoy her stories as you both share your stories together, and she’ll tell you all sorts of shit.

      2) Someone who’s judgement she doesn’t give a shit about. This can mean either she’s interacting with someone so low-value to her that she doesn’t give a shit what he/she thinks, or it can mean that she’s so confident and legitimately doesn’t care what other people think of her (ie – the thing we strive for in doing pickup) that she’s an open book.

      Also most guys are shit in bed. Girls don’t come back to me for my millions of dollars and 6-pack abs and chisled jaw and ferrari. They come back because I’m a good fuck lol So I hear stuff like “omg I’ve never cum like that before” etc. all the time, and I quiz them a bit on what guys they’ve fucked have been like in bed because the stories are usually funny in a shake-my-head way. Maybe they’re all just brilliant actresses improvising stories on the fly, but when you go out a lot you tend to get a sense for when people are bullshitting you.

      Anyway, enjoy it and take it all as a compliment. You’re hitting them on emotional levels that most guys don’t know how to tap into, and if you’ve done your homework on how to fuck, you’re going to end up with a lot of girls falling for you. Pretty much every girl I bang falls in love ASAP, that’s part of why I follow all the rules on keeping them at arm’s length.

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  25. My dad used to say ‘because women are acting more like men they will start looking like them’. I always thought it was odd logic, but, who the fuck knows, he may be right.

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  26. Lately, I’ve been thinking about meta-game. Chase Amante wrote an article about in on his site and I remember once when a girl used it on me via text in high school. *what follows is not exact, but close enough*

    Me: Careful, you’d better keep it up or my favor might wander

    Her: Haha no, I don’t think you understand human nature. it’s the man’s job to perform for the woman. Then we get to choose.So you’re the one who needs to do good 😉

    I didn’t respond after that. At that point the only person I knew of was Doc Love. Now, I’m thinking if a girl flakes/shit-tests/in general employs feminine wiles a good response might be along the immortal words of Riley from the Boondocks:

    Me: “game recognizes game, I’m guessing u read cosmo?”

    * if it’s an uncalibrated or just blatant call out like the text she sent me*

    Or in a more standard generic text/in person case.

    Her: Haha, I can’t make it (2 hours before date) because blablabla *long meaningless explanation*

    Me: A “Rules” girl I see. ( f.y.i. there’s a book with hot/cold advice for women called “the rules”)

    Another story:

    Once, after she didn’t respond to my text for a few hours, I took 3. She replied

    Her: Lol are u trying to punish me for not texting you back? I was driving blablabla

    As you can see, I was punching above my weight. Actually, to this day I have no idea how I’d respond to that appropriately.

    Thoughts?

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  27. I’m going to invest all my money in Sybians, because the MJM (Man-Jawed Monstrosities) sure aren’t going to get any men. I’ll be rich! Yahoo!

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  28. It is currently fashionable for women to seek hips of no more than 32″. The androgenous, pubescent look. This is accomplished through malnutrition, i.e. exteme, 800 calorie per day, dieting during their teenage years.

    Although the skeletal stucture continues to fill out a bit through the mid 20’s its basic morphology is set by about 18. Male birth transexuals who forgo skeletal reconstructive surgery (as most of them do, because that shit’s even nastier than having your dick cut off) continue to look about as masculine as they did before hormone treatments and surgery.

    Man jaws and narrow hips also both occur together, suggesting that it is purely the result of hormone balance, not malnutrition.

    I myself suffered from exteme malnutrition through most of my growing years (first undiagnosed, then mistreated celiac disease), and although it permanantly altered my frame from the family norm (shorter and slighter), I would make a lousy transexual, as I don’t look (or feel) the least bit like a girl, again supporting the idea that masculine appearance is a hormone balance factor independent of nutrition.

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    • Yeah plus lots of people, male and female, back in historical times, suffered from nutritional deficiencies. But were not masculinized women and feminized men like modern people.

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  29. A woman deep in love with a man dominant to her gains a huge amount of feminine qualities. If she loses the luv, she loses what she had gained.

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  30. Old-timey photographs don’t support this hypothesis. Women long ago looked, well, rather handsome so to speak.

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    • I know this will be hard to understand from your perspective, but there are no photographs from long ago.

      There is also a rather pronounced selection bias in 19th century photographs. Very few 16 year old sweethearts, very many “interesting” to the photographer labor camp ladies and stern, middle aged, presbyrterian church ladies paying for the pose.

      Skulls tell a truer story.

      That being said, I refer you to Girl with a Pearl Earring, who it took Scarlet Johansson to not look as good as.

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  31. on September 26, 2013 at 8:16 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

    >> This may have little to nothing to do with the N. European populations you’re familiar with.

    who in Scandinavia are you referring to…. the Pakistani immigrants or the Sudanese refugees?

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  32. Alphla Male training equals+ feminine beautiful scholl.

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  33. on September 26, 2013 at 9:05 pm Subarctic Hillbilly

    Would love some game advice on a current situation. I went a bit overboard, and wondering how to respond next time I run into this girl. Which I will.

    Setup: A very clean and cute redhead, about a HB8, looks so much like Norah Patterson (Royal Teeth) that, given I live in a SWPL mecca in which such sorts frequently consort, it may very well have been. Sitting alone and aloof by a window in an upscale bar, early evening, reading a book.

    (On topic: She was that vanishingly rare breed of very lithe and feminine women. Exactly what we need to mother our future sons and daughters.)

    Me: I was with a couple of rowdy friends – we’re all charming and attention-getting in our sophisticated ball-busting way, babe magnets all. While we were not by any means loud and obnoxious, it would be hard not to notice us.

    I approach on my way out of the bar.

    Me: OK, I’ll bite. What’re you reading?

    Norah: It’s a book about gay men.

    Me: OMG! Really? I’m like super-gay! I may be the gayest person you’ve ever met!

    Her: And about how they brag about the size of their dicks.

    Me: Really? Mine’s like two inches long! It barely sticks out of my pubic patch. (long pause) … wait … you mean they’re bragging about how big they are? Oh lord, I take that back! Mine’s like 3.5 inches … of blue steel!

    I could see she didn’t know what to make of me. Coming on too strong out of left field, no rapport established. Oh well, I cut my losses and left.

    Me: (Extended hand formally – she took it and we shook fairly cordially and formally) Well, pleasure meeting you. I’ll let you get back to your gay dicks.

    Her: Okayyyy … I hope you found this amusing. (Implication: I was having fun at her expense.)

    Other relevant info: It was hot – the venue had no air-conditioning, and while I wore my trademark shit-eating grin, there was a bit of sweat beading up on my forehead. Not sure if it came off as flop sweat. It wasn’t, but you seldom know how these things appear.

    She’s normally not my type – given that I go for curvy and swervy types. But since she appeared aloof and uber-chic, it was a personal challenge to say something. Anything. I give myself credit for that. However, I’m not sure what to say next. She’s not likely to forget me, for good nor ill. My thought is to step it down significantly – either pretend to vaguely remember her, or to just open with “So how’s your day going?” Then work on finding some common ground, build rapport.

    My mission: While I’ve got three fine women in steady rotation (all beyond what I believed possible for me a few short years ago) I need to keep gaming. I am prone to complacency. And I figure this was a flameout, but when I passed by her at the window a few minutes later, she gave me a bright and a bit rueful smile. So I’m not sure. Was it a flameout? Is it salvageable?

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 12:40 am gunslingergregi

      I hear ya on complacency had the exchick over of course talking about she getting off the shit tomorrow and wants to come back
      me you do this every time i start picking up some new bitches
      she like yea i realize i need to get my shit together or i’m gonna lose you
      me yea you can come back maybe but i will be seeing other chicks you lost monogamous privileges

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    • You’ve got three women “in rotation.” How romantic. Then you go into a totally insincere push-pull joking routine that looks like you’re someone that manipulates emotions while maintaining a get-out-of-jail-free I was-just-joking card.

      You sound like the kind of guy that could really make a woman feel secure about your love.

      Congratulations.

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    • Why did you reject yourself? She didn’t. I’d have stayed and talked to her for a while. Then escalated. Until she explicitly rejected me.

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      • Which probably wouldn’t have happened if you didn’t find an excuse to reject yourself and run like chicken.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 8:04 am Subarctic Hillbilly

        Perhaps not. But I actually had to be somewhere. And I’m playing long game these days. I’ll see her again. And I’ve maintained plausible deniability.

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  34. ….. unitl something goes wrong or breaks; then they are all just girls and the search is on to find the closest man to take the responsibility, the blame or to fix what got broken.

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  35. Hillbillie

    Oxfordshire or Cambrigde? These are Upper Class, no doubt. Still,, an upper class twit-troll is still a troll.for all that..
    So, what are your real names, then lads? Speak up! Your parents ill never have to no know.
    Besides, we here are always the good guys; no matter what we have to do. That is in one of the chapters of the bible, I think., A good explaination of why you are doomed to unrelenting, destructive,self hatred is that you cannot even spell correctly… .

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  36. on September 26, 2013 at 11:28 pm Isaac Asstomouf

    all that’s missing is the pegging session.

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  37. […] And, to a lesser extent, men more like women, at least in an outpost of the West. Facial structure of men and women has become more similar over time.  […]

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  38. Is the opposite of Gr8Books4Men CrappyMagazines4Womynns?

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  39. This seems fairly obvious to me…

    Several decades ago hot women HAD to marry up in order to amount to anything, thus ensuring that they produced high quality children. Now, with hypergamy, hot women have raised the bitch shields and don’t produce near as many children as they used to. Instead, ugly women have been forced to lower their expectations and sleep with ugly man whether they truly want to or not, thus producing a plethora of ugly babies. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve walked around the mall or gone to the movies and seen the ugliest woman alive who is pregnant.

    Evolution: it’s not about the hottest, it’s about who fucks the most.

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  40. Lantern jawed, lmfao

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  41. on September 27, 2013 at 7:57 pm gunslingergregi

    life getting too funny seriously

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  42. I sat next to a couple. The girl was a typical 24ish American bitch, with a raspy voice (whats the deal with Western girls with raspy voices, smokers?) anyways. The girl just kept talking and talking. Loudly, and arrogantly about her adventures in drinking, and getting drunk, and puking. Everyone other sentence she was dropping the F-bomb. I got a good look at her, she was a 6/10 but looked like THE WALL was gona hit her sooner than most.

    The guy was just nodding his head, kinda quiet, smiling and agreeing with all her stuff. But this girl came across as a MAN. I didnt get involved, but I wanted to Shout. Hey, bro? Does this woman ever shut up?

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  43. So how have women’s pussies evolved in the past 200 years? Are the clits getting bigger?

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  44. Medieval and early modern people had broader faces because their jaws worked harder chewing coarse bread and other non-processed foods. That’s all there is to it. Q.E.D.

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  45. Everything you write is true, Heartiste. I read the why shorter women are more desirable and I can attest to that. My adoptive mom, being several inches shorter than I am(I’m a girl) is much softer and curvier(whereas I’m bony and angular) is kind,warm,empathetic whilst in contrast I am several shades away from the dark triad. I’ve never been truly sweet-natured, people only mistakenly think I am because of my nerve-wracking high pitched voice(which also gave the impression of being weaker until I corrected it). I’ve been able to give the impression of being sweet-natured whilst in my heart I know it certainly isn’t so.

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  46. “A world of Amanda Marcottes. What could be a worse sexually unimorph combo than the entitlement and irrationality of women hitched to the aggro posturing and striver pretensions of men?”

    What exactly does the word “striver” mean?

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/striver

    Ps. I am a non native speaker.

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  47. […] [Study: Women Really Are Becoming More Like Men] […]

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  48. […] So this is the world the West is hurtling toward: A steaming mass of lantern-jawed, hairy forearmed,… […]

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