Beauty Is Objective, Fair-Skinned, And White-ish

It seems there are still a few hermits and delusional freaks who think beauty is in the eye of the beholder and every beholder is different so, following the logic of this platitude, anyone can be beautiful if they immerse themselves in enough Jizzebel pep talks. Your Citadel Chateau stands athwart this march of moronic posturing, yelling shiv, but it never hurts to twist the knife and add a little more hurt.

Pierre Tourigny created composites of Hot or Not female profiles and the results are nothing short of dryly predictable. This first series is based on the 1-10 female beauty scale:

There are very few male beholders who will mistake the 1.0 girl for the 9.5 girl. There are fewer still who, given a free choice, would choose to have sex and romance with the 1.0 over the 9.5. The opinions of the beholders, averaged out, will reach a very objective consensus about the rankings of all these composites.

Tourigny notes,

What did I conclude about good looks from these virtual faces? First, morphs tend to be prettier than their sources because face asymmetries and skin blemishes average out. However, the low score images show that fat is not attractive. The high scores tend to have narrow faces.

There’s more to female beauty than that, but yeah, bloat kills beauty dead.

The ugly truth about beauty is about to get uglier. Here are composites of 2005 Miss Universe contestants by total, region and finalist:

The first thing that jumps out at you is just how similar very beautiful women look. Beautiful women from all races resemble each other more than they resemble the uglies of their own races. The big wide-set eyes, the bright smiles, the good teeth, the high foreheads and cheekbones, the dainty noses…. it’s almost as if there’s a universal objective standard of beauty that exists in the world inhabited by humans!

The second thing you notice (if noticing doesn’t make your bowels erupt) is how these worldwide representative composites of pulchritude converge, give or take a few racial idiosyncrasies like epicanthic folds, onto something close to what could be regarded as archetypical white woman beauty. Tourigny:

Miss Universe contestants owe their delegation to a mix of local and universal standards of beauty (or at least the pageant’s version of universal). I created multi-morph composites (see some details how here) for each continent from photos of the delegates.

The Americas composite most closely resembles the one from all delegates while the Europe composite more closely resembles the one from the finalists. Bias in the judging or in the standard? Who knows?

It could be bias. Or it could be an accidental revelation. If cosmetic surgery trends are equally indicative, it would appear that the pinnacle of universal female beauty coincides with the pinnacle of European female beauty. Where da white women at, indeed.

Finally, as Peter Frost has described, men all over the world prefer lighter-skinned women (relative to their own race’s hue). In the above Miss Universe composites, the representative African woman is not that much darker than the non-African women. And her nose… almost as petite as the European nose.

The trifecta of ugly truths about female beauty is complete with the following composites based on age:

Tourigny on the details of this composite,

The Hot or Not web site gives people the option of rating women of all ages or of seeing only a specific age group.I collected photos of women who scored at least a 9.5 average and created multi-morph composites (see some details how here).

The only thing I noticed was that the attractiveness standard people use is more lenient the older the subject.

Some people dispute the existence of The Wall, and point to the fact that beautiful 40+ year old women can be found in the wild. My answer to these Wall doubters is two-part: One, numbers matter. There are vastly more 25 year old female 9s than there are 41 year old female 9s. Two, longitudinal comparison matters. No matter how hot a 41 year old woman is, the 20 year old version of herself was hotter.

The exceedingly rare exceptions prove the rule.

People do get more lenient judging the attractiveness of older people, but that’s not proof of a magical reformulated age-adjusted objective beauty standard. Rather, what the leniency demonstrates is rationalization resulting from a restriction of options. As the average man gets older and falls out of the primary sexual market, he fools himself into believing his secondary sexual market female peers are just as attractive as the pretty young things he would prefer to fuck if the possibility were open to him. It’s Consolation Prize Syndrome.

That’s enough shivving for today. There’s blood all over the shag carpet. I’ll end on a hopeful note for the ladies: If you’re a pretty girl with boner-inducing face structure, you can avoid a premature impact with the Wall and sexual worthlessness by simply refusing to get fat. Look at that 41+ year old composite. No fat face there. No wrinkles either, but like Tourigny said, all he had to work with was blurry source images. Heh.





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  1. […] Beauty Is Objective, Fair-Skinned, And White-ish […]

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  2. Hot Or Not used to be pretty good, back in the day when it was primarily peopled by high school and college students showing off their tits and abs.
    Based on what I’ve seen of the current version, it’s been turned into some sort of ‘dating’ site, complete with all the manifold levels of fakes, bullshit and ‘upgrades’ (paid, duh) that plague that particular corner of hell.
    The ratings were fairly predictable, girls would rate consistently 2-3 points higher than guys, they would also get 100 times the votes – no surprise there.
    Bikini/shirtless shots got you at least an extra point or 2, even otherwise plain Janes could upgrade to 8 or 9 using deep cleavage or porno positioning.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but most beholders tend to see the same things, so in a hypothetical – but realistic – bar with 100 guys and 15 girls, at least 95 of the guys will be lusting after (and hitting on) the same 3 girls, largely or completely ignoring the other 12.

    ‘Miss’ contests involve other factors besides just looks, behind-the-scenes scheming, politicking, lobbying and fucking are endemic and rampant. In Miss USA competitions, for example, there’s a reason (in addition to their appearance) why Miss California and Miss Texas will almost always end up near the top, they’ve got the most powerful lobbying groups behind them.
    I’m not sure why they always have to have a token gay guy on the judging panel. What the hell does a gay guy know about a woman’s attractiveness? Why does he even care?

    I’m going to have to disagree to some extent with the notion that the Whiter you look, the more attractive you are. Don’t get me wrong, I like blue-eyed Swedish Blondes as much as the next guy – and boy, are they ever rare around here – but there are TONS of extremely hot Hispanic girls, at least until age 30 or so.
    Not really a fan of (east) Asian women, they tend not to have much of a figure (unless artificially enhanced), but they do tend to hold up longer than others, so they’ve got their good points.
    There are even some very attractive Black girls – gasps of horror from the peanut gallery – and no, they’re not necessarily the ones who look the least ‘African’.

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  3. on August 9, 2014 at 9:39 am The Spirit Within

    You know how the very best top-shelf aged liquors — tequila, whiskey, scotch, rum, brandy — all kinda resemble each other after a certain point? That heavy, smoky, rich, complex taste?

    That’s how the Miss Universe contestants are. They’re even aged about the same amount of time as the liquors. Twenty years.

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  4. What would the Abo composite look like?

    As to the African composite, it’s unlikely that the constituent women are pureblooded subsaharans. There is a visual tell that separates the Euro face from what I generically call the aboriginal face (which incudes many of the more primitive looking Asians and Indios) — run an imaginary line from the tip of the nose to the tip of the chin. In the Euro face, the lip will not (or will barely) touch that imaginary line. With the aboriginal face, the lips break that line.

    Go ride the subway and look at White, Mestio, and at Black face profiles, male and female. Euro: smaller maxilla (teeth area), stronger chin make the nose-chin tangent go in front of the lips. “Aboriginal”: larger maxilla, recessed chin make the lips project forward.

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    • Out of mod.

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    • The Line test. Try it out.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 7:19 am alcestiseshtemoa

      Unfortunately, one thing I’ve found true about the old “one drop rule” from the USA is that for a person to transform from an African phenotype (genotype) to an European phenotype (genotype) when involving ancestry, it takes a lot of white Caucasian genes to stamp out a black appearance.

      A good example would be miscegenation in Brazil, which was heavily influenced by the old Arab Slave trade. Most black female ancestry in Brazil is East African, and Arab male traders were notorious for castrating the black males, while impregnating the black females, sometimes even killing the offspring (sometimes they lived, other times they died). Black men were also overworked to death under Arab traders (e.g. dying from work-related wounds).

      That type of behavior influenced Brazilian miscegenation. Despite leftist NGOs, and some “black power lunatics”, 90% of the time most black men in Brazil didn’t reproduce and pass their genes.

      I was looking at some actual mixed-raced Brazilians (descendants of white male colonizers and white male immigrants who had sexual relations with both black female and Amerindian slaves), who “looked white” (think Southern European) and it turns out that their DNA genetic test shows this type of ancestry: 94% European, 3% Sub-Saharan African, 3% Amerindian.

      Technically speaking, the average mixed-raced Brazilian ranges in ancestry from quadroon/octoroon (81% white) to quintroon (94% white), but the ones who “look white” are usually quintroons.

      On the other hand, white immigrants (e.g. Portuguese, Italian, German, Polish, Ukrainian, Lebanese, Syrian) in Brazil don’t seem to possess have any non-white ancestry since they self-segregated themselves in the South and Southeast regions, and intermarried among themselves.

      Hilariously, it was the Arab traders which exported their East African black females slaves to Brazil (and castrated the black men), which has consistently kept black ancestry low.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 9:44 am alcestiseshtemoa

      Aboriginal looks are more recessive. One can look different while still possessing 75% other genes/25% Aboriginal genes. On the other hand, the most dominant looks tend to be black. Depending on the person, usually 75% other/25% black still strikes some people as blackish, and one needs to be at least anywhere between octoroon (1/8 black) to quintroon (1/16) to look slightly different.

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  5. I can’t get excited over anything below 6.5.

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  6. I want someone to do morphed images of feminists, female lawyers, SJWs, etc.

    Should be an eye-opener, too.

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  7. I’d give some latitude with the age thing. If a woman ages well in terms of looks it means that she is good genetic material.

    Also I read that pale skin is attractive in females because it’s easier to see blemishes or other disorders if the maiden is fair.

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    • “If a woman ages well in terms of looks it means that she is good genetic material.”

      makes sense

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      • But, by then it’s too late to care about her genetic material. Unless of course your real interest is in her daughter.

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  8. Interesting that the All Beauty Queen average looks a bit Indian. Frida Pinto sorta.

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    • among indians we say its the other way around. that our most beatiful women can pass for greek spanidh or italian with her fine features and fair complexion.

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  9. Also the American beauty standard is heavily negrified. What would she have looked like 50 years ago.

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  10. The next step in testing for a “Biological Calvinism” would be to find some honest psychiatrists and honest psychometricians to test the women to see whether or not, as “HB” tends towards “10”, the personality also tends to tend towards “kind, warm, gentle, cheerful, and optimistic” – whether or not our sense of physical beauty has evolved [Darwinistically] to help us predict spiritual beauty.

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    • “All” else being “equal” [trying to take into account e.g. religion, intact -vs- broken family, DEM vs GOP, family edumakashun, family income, father’s profession, etc etc etc].

      And assuming that there were such a thing as an honest psychiatrist or an honest psychometrician [which there isn’t].

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    • Frankfurt controllers are determinists. Philosophers have disproven their existence. The only “determinists” around any more are compatibilist.

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      • ???

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      • Do you even know what a “Frankfurt controller” is lol….

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      • The bottom line is that free will is an illusion and humans are merely reactionary biological machines.

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      • The bottom line is that free will is an illusion and humans are merely reactionary biological machines.

        That’s true for brute animals, but humans do have the ability to choose whether to do something or not to do it.

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      • cornvinus, we have the ability to choose what we do, but we don’t get to choose what we want to do. I can decide to go for a run, but WHY did I decide to go for a run? free will is indeed an illusion, because our desires/wants are not things we choose

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      • Can any of you make something more complex than yourself?

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 8:28 pm Zombie Shane

        N, what are you talking about? You’re talking determinism, we’re talking empiricism [and proclivities, which have some likelihood of being acted upon].

        And the proclivity in question could be for Free Will itself – some people [and some groups of people] could have a vastly greater capacity for Free Will than do others.

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      • You did not answer the question; is it above your pay grade?

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      • Man, how come every single post gets hijacked by this sort of bs? Rather than talking conspiracy theories at a game site, I’m going to go talk game at a conspiracy site.

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    • My experience has been unattractive women are hostile, and attractive women who hit the Wall and have lost male attention are the most hostile of all.

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 4:44 am Mean Mr. Mustard.

        If it is true that we reap what we sow, then attractive women who hit the Wall and have lost male attention are the most hostile of all because they reap a bitter harvest.

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      • Exactly, and I’m wondering whether our innate sense of beauty might have evolved to help protect us from getting hitched to the very nastiest of the harpies.

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      • And then on a larger scale, it would tend to imply that the more hideous races, which produce specimens like Michelle LaVaughn Robinson, also produce more hideous personalities [which we can predict with great accuracy simply by looking at their faces].

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      • Or a Barbara Streisand.

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      • My experience is to watch out for post-wall women who are childless. They can be nasry snakes and backstabbers in the work world.

        Conversely, my social and professional relations with older women who have had children are invariably pleasant.

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      • “Conversely, my social and professional relations with older women who have had children are invariably pleasant.”

        i agree. i’ve had similar experiences.

        i’m sure i’ll get some heat for this but i actually prefer dating women close to my age so naturally i’ve dated a few moms. some of these women were the sweetest, kindest, most nurturing women i’ve ever met. far superior to most women i’ve known (young or old) and i’d say these are traits that they likely wouldn’t have if they weren’t mothers.

        now don’t get me wrong. all mothers are not the same. there is a big difference between a woman who tried her best to hold together a long term relationship and be a decent mother and had it not work out than a woman who is a single mom because she isn’t capable of maintaining a decent relationship for any length of time and doesn’t care enough about her kids to get her act together.

        i will never date a woman in the second category again. i weed them out right away. does she badmouth her ex/exes every chance she gets and blame them for everything? do the kids have a bad or non-existent relationship with the dad? has she had more job and relationship failures than you can count on one hand? if any of those things are true, she’s a no go.

        now if she’s a widow or one of those women who made the mistake of settling down young with the wrong man and she stayed with the guy as long as she could because of her sense of duty and obligation, that’s a different story. that’s a different kind of woman than the type i mentioned before. if she’s the duty and obligation type and she has a healthy relationship with her kids and the dad AND the dad acts like a dad so i don’t have to, that’s something i’ll do…without a second thought.

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  11. And youthful..

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  12. on August 9, 2014 at 11:23 am Reservoir Tip

    Notice that the only girl with her mouth closed is the 1.0.

    That would mean that in average, most 1s had their mouths closed in their pictures.

    Either they were all pounding some food down their fat gullets or this is indicative of something else. I wonder what.

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  13. Ugly people are less symmetrical, compositing their images tends to smooth out the asymmetries and make them look less ugly. I wonder if there is a metric for how difference the individual faces are from the composite – what is the RMS error for the hotness categories? I bet the error goes down as you get hotter.

    (The same effect goes on for intelligence there are many ways to be dumb but only a few ways to be smart. Smart peoples’ genes are more similar to each other than dumb peoples’ genes).

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    • RMS error == SD

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      • There’s no question but that “mean” has little meaning in the absence of SD. And it would be fascinating if SD were non-constant.

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      • As “HB” -> 10, SD -> 0 ?

        And as “HB” -> 0, SD -> positive infinity ?

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    • I bet the error goes down as you get hotter.

      That’s easy to answer (if not quantify): the fug composite is blurrier than the hottie composite.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 8:35 pm Zombie Shane

        That was exactly my feeling: that as HB -> 10, the SD gets very small, as everyone’s opinion coalesces around White standards of beauty.

        But that as HB -> tends to 0, the SD gets very large, as you starting picking up wildly varying types of hideousness from the far corners of the earth.

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      • All happy families are alike, but each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.

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      • “All happy families are alike, but each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”

        Exactly.

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  14. Yes, whiteness (or at least part-whiteness) correlates to beauty.

    Among Latin Americans, the illegals who jump the border usually have less white ancestry, and thus their women are squat and unattractive.

    But go to Latin America, and look at even the middle-class people, and many are hotties.

    I think female beauty in Hispanics (as well as mixed black+whites) rises rapidly until the woman is 60% white. After 60%, there is not necessarily any further improvement. Think Sofia Vergara or Eva Longoria, who are probably 60% white and 40% indiginous.

    The biggest problem for Mexico (and thus the US border situation) is that not enough whites went to Mexico (and Spaniards are part-Arab). Mexico is something like 40% white, and 60% indiginous. If the white percentage was just 20 points higher (60%), then not only would Mexico be a lot more prosperous, but a lot more Mexican women would be hot.

    More simply, if the lower-classes of Mexico looked like the middle class of Mexico, they would a) be more prosperous, b) have more attractive women and c) not have a class of people that needs to jump the border.

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 12:17 pm braveagnosticg

      Mexico should leave the Spanish language, in fact all Latin America should, and make English the official, like in India and Philippines, along with native languages, and allow Nahuatl or Quechua to grow, just like Hindi or Tagalog survives in their countries

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 1:50 pm Reservoir Tip

      The Arab influence in Spaniards is largely over-stated.

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 2:04 pm braveagnosticg

      agree, seems that Anon2 has low IQ

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      • No. It is you who has low-IQ.

        A DNA test of Spaniards shows about 80% European and 20% Algerian/Moroccan.

        This would square with anyone who knows anything about history. If Mexico were settled by the British or Germans instead of Spaniards, all of Latin America would be much whiter and more prosperous.

        Spain is a lot poorer than Germany. And even white Latin Americans are a lot poorer than US/Canadan anglo-whites.

        Now, I agree that allowing a black man like Morgan Freeman to play a Moor, or a black-polynesian like the Rock to play Hercules, is too much.

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      • If the white percentage was just 20 points higher (60%), then not only would Mexico be a lot more prosperous, but a lot more Mexican women would be hot.

        AFAIK, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, and Chile are about like that. Hence the South American beauties who win the pageants so often.

        A DNA test of Spaniards shows about 80% European and 20% Algerian/Moroccan.

        Some of the non-European ancestry is also jooish.

        Now, I agree that allowing a black man like Morgan Freeman to play a Moor, or a black-polynesian like the Rock to play Hercules, is too much.

        Have you seen those pictures of Zacarias Moussaoui, the Algerian terrorist? North Africans (with the possible exception of Egyptians) are probably at least half n!gger by now, with the criminality that goes with it.

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      • AFAIK, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, and Chile are about like that. Hence the South American beauties who win the pageants so often.

        Yes. It is amazing what happens when the 60% barrier of whiteness is crossed. Going form 40% to 60% makes a world of difference in crossing a ‘threshold’, even if 61-100% doesn’t add much further….

        If Mexico had a racial mixture closer to Colombia or Venezuela, most of America’s problems would be much less. Fewer would jump the border, and those (women) that did would be hotter.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 6:43 pm some german dude

        >A DNA test of Spaniards shows about 80% European and 20% Algerian/Moroccan.

        Are you retarded?

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      • Now, I agree that allowing a black man like Morgan Freeman to play a Moor, or a black-polynesian like the Rock to play Hercules, is too much.
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        Huge fail.

        Here are some paintings of Moors done by White painters before the advent of photography.

        http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/True_Negros/Assorted/Paintings.htm

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 7:10 pm some german dude

        Look at contemporary depictions: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Castillia.jpg/220px-Castillia.jpg

        ‘Moor’ is used for any dark skinned individual in many European languages.

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      • What is your point?

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      • Spain was controlled by Muslims for 800 years. Those Muslims were mainly from nearby Morocco and Algeria. They were brown.

        if ‘some german dud’ doesn’t know this much, he is a retard and a fa*got.

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      • thwack,

        Here are some paintings of Moors done by White painters before the advent of photography.

        Then shouldn’t you be arguing with ‘some german dud’ who thinks that Spaniards do not have even 20% ancestry from brown Algeria and Morocco. And people from those countries are hardly black.

        Thwack says Moors were black (and hence the people of Spain 20% black) while ‘some german dud’ insists that Spain is so pure white that 800 years of Islamic rule by people from Morocco/Algeria did not cause mixture.

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 9:30 am braveagnosticg

        The Whiteness of Colombia, Venezuela. Those countries are even worse than Mexico in per capita and everything else despite having less people, though they have bigger Black people than Mexico, but sometimes i think Amerindians are as lagging as Blacks, so why the “Whiter” South Americans don’t do better

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      • Thwack says Moors were black
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        Nope, not at all.

        What I am saying is the historical record has been altered and continues to be altered today by those who wish to remove the influence of darker people from the events of antiquity.

        They were being generous having Morgan Freeman play a Moor

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    • A simple experiment you can do on your computer: go to google image and type in any nationality + beauty, ie. Danish beauty, Irish beauty, Haitian beauty, etc… and see how much you enjoy the photos that come up. Swedish… wow. Jamaican… um… not so much.

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      • agreed and im ethnic. too bad white women ruin themselves with feminism slutdom liquor n obeisty. if she has an asian diet shed age well like fine wine instead of pixie cut milk

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  15. So, since this is a Game blog (or is it still?).

    The question remains :

    Does mastery of Game help a black man get with attractive white women?

    If so, then Game is powerful, and perhaps the single biggest threat to white nationalists who oppose miscegenation.

    If not, then Game cannot overcome certain barriers, and is far less effective than is being preached.

    It is time for some honest discussion about whether Game is effective enough to assist black (or yellow) men get attractive white women, for that will answer a lot of questions about the effectiveness of Game against other barriers.

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    • Let’s have an honest discussion?

      I’d guess that it marginally helps. BUT it’s more general. Over at ReturnofKings it is quite clearly marketed to frustrated blacks and Asians as a magic bullet.

      The level of hostility that the posters express about white women is toxic and quite clearly borne of repeated rejection. Let’s face it, white boys are evolutionarily conditioned to put up with white women. 12,000 years of living together. Blacks are conditioned to be around blacks.

      The feedback loop of evolution between sexes of each race are quite clearly strong. There was an article on the BBC about the diversity of Monkey subspecies who can mate. They’d developed different faces via sexual selection to make sure that cross breeding didn’t occur. I see no particular reason to suppose racial phenotype a didn’t evolve for the same reason.

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    • Perhaps Game decreases in potency outside familiarity, i.e., a White woman will find herself less receptive to game delivered by an African. Still, this wouldn’t disprove its efficacy.

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      • Interesting. But is ‘familiarity’ only about race? A nerdy white guy is also unfamiliar to anything a white woman has been attracted to in the past, while every white chick has done it at least once with a black football player in college.

        A white chick might have more familiarity with a black football player than a nerdy white guy, and thus game may decrease in efficacy even for a white man who is entirely not what the woman is accustomed to being attracted to (nerdy, very short, etc.).

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      • while every white chick has done it at least once with a black football player in college.

        Troll … you hid your stench very well.

        Bravo.

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      • Um….. I am not happy about it, but that is an objective fact.

        Take a typical big-10 school. The average college chicks are many, and the football players are stars. The highest SMV guys in the entire school. Both white and black.

        The black football player is second only to the 20 or so white football players at the school. He is above all other 20,000 guys in the student body, in the eyes of the 25,000 girls there.

        If you don’t think a black football player on the main team on a big college campus is fucking the white chicks of the student body, you have no clue.

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      • Exactly. I went to big 10 school and dated football player.

        The Whote girls can’t get enough of black athletes

        “Where da Black Menz at”

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      • I should add that if the typical white college chick had sex with 10 guys during college, those comprised of 9 white guys and 1 black guy, who was probably a football player or other high-SMV black guy.

        Don’t forget the other 9 white guys.

        If you are in denial of this, you are delusional.

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    • Game is innate in most Black men (American). That us why they have success with women (of any race) in general.

      I honestly don’t think many black men need to learn “game” since they’ve been exhibiting these traits for decades.

      White men have been socialized against game so that is why many White males are just now learning.

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      • White men have been socialized against game so that is why many White males are just now learning.

        Philosophes … dazzle us with your insight.

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      • Yeah Neecy, it cracks me up too. I’m a (light skinned tbh) Black woman and I’ve had dudes, including high status white dudes, chasing me since the day I grew breasts and hips. And I’m married to a blue-eyed white guy. So this “you Black women are the ugliest ugly who ever uglied and no man with options of any race would deign to spit in your direction!!!” rants around here just make me smile. Who are y’all trying to convince, us or yourselves?

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      • @ nicole,

        “It’s a sad thing to see men worshiping women who are not only betraying them, but shaping society in a way that makes them obligated to pay for the privilege of being betrayed.”

        Why is it sad for white men to worship white women? I think they should continue to worship white women, it’s good for white men’s image. What white woman wouldn’t want a man who worships the ground she walks on?

        The only thing I disagree with CH on is the notion that what he considers to be “European features,” are what make women universally beautiful. I think women are beautiful on their own merit. African woman, Asian women all have their own unique look it doesn’t make them less beautiful because they don’t conform to a European ideal.

        But if white men want to worship their women and put them on a pedestal, that really is their business. Obviously. They can and should continue to do that. It must be working for them, so they should continue to do it. Nothing wrong with being loyal to the women of your ethnic group or race, as long as you’re not hurting others.

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      • Spiralina,

        We know some black women are beautiful, and who knows maybe you are one of those, but white men marrying black women are extremely rare and you know it.

        An exception to the rule is all it is. and you know it.

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      • White men like to fuck black women; but generally don’t/won’t marry them.

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    • Game in the more strategic sense of interacting with women based on science and objective observations of how females respond to various stimuli will probably help a black man get white women in the same way it helps a white underwear model get white women or a white movie star get white women or a white guy seen riding around in a Lamborghini get white women. Women assume these guys are Alpha before they even open their mouth. A significant percentage of females will be instantly attracted to them due to physical appearance alone. Game will help them more efficiently take advantage of that initial attraction.

      But many of the more specific tactics of Game are intended to help guys who don’t inherently have the same type of initial physical attractiveness to create and maintain Alpha-type attractiveness through more psycholzozlololozical means.

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    • It can help. Game is not a big threat to white nationalists. Blacks aren’t the only ones who can learn game. The greatest spear of miscegenation is not charming brothas, its unrestricted immigration and diminishment of free association.

      Left to their own devices, most races will go with their own.

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      • Left to their own devices, all men of all races will go with white women, QED^100000. Nobody wants shitskins, not even other shitskins.

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      • I’m curious. Serious question. With all the WHITE WOMAN pedestalizing you beta white men do, ( and putting down of other races of women – which is OMEGA) how much incentive have you received or receive for it from White women? LOL

        Don’t answer. I already know – NONE, NADA. ZILCH, GOOSE EGG!

        I actually smirk a lot now when I see do many WHITE WOMEN with Black guys (nope all of em ain’t fat either) because I get a lot if satisfaction knowing that all the time BETA/OMEGA white guys spend dissing other races of women to PEDESTALIZE and “pussy polish” White women, they are not rewarding you for it at ALL.

        I could care less if you White woman SUPPLICATE until you’re blue in the face. But the need to put other races down to do it speaks to your bitchness as INSECURE DESPERATE white men.

        I’m not against uplifting your race at all as long as you don’t put others down to do it. But white men act like lite bitches because you cannot seem to PEDESTALIZE your “women” on their own merit. You always have to CONVINCE YOURSELVES of something (what I have no clue) by putting down other races of women to uplift your own.

        Actually it speaks to your INSECURITY as white men who constantly only feel worthy of yourselves by constantly telling yourselves “white womens is da best”.

        you guys are pathetic. Even moreso because white women spend ZERO time waxing poetic about how “great” white men are. They in fact have more negative shit to say of White men than positive.

        I’ll be sure to give a thumbs up and laugh everytime I see some cute White girl stepping over a beta white guy to get to a black guy!

        You guys are on a sight trying to learn how to not be BETAS and OMEGAS and you still can’t escape your beta ness no matter how hard you think you have.

        😂😂😂😂

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      • Then how come white people are a minority population on planet earth?

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      • I’m with Neecy on this one. It’s a sad thing to see men worshiping women who are not only betraying them, but shaping society in a way that makes them obligated to pay for the privilege of being betrayed.

        …but hey, they are “objectively” more beautiful…so I guess it’s worth it to them.

        :: shrug ::

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      • Heh, heh… NeNe said “goose”… heh, heh.

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      • Don’t answer. I already know – NONE, NADA. ZILCH, GOOSE EGG!

        Your fangs are showing.

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      • I could care less if you White woman SUPPLICATE until you’re blue in the face. But the need to put other races down to do it speaks to your bitchness as INSECURE DESPERATE white men.

        I read somewhere that when multiculturalism succeeds, we’re doomed.

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      • I’ll be sure to give a thumbs up and laugh everytime I see some cute White girl stepping over a beta white guy to get to a black guy!

        Your hatred for White people is visible. Please spare me any if/then rebuttals.

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      • I hate White people? I’ll be sure to let the White guy I’m seeing now know that 😆😆😆🙎

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      • “I actually smirk a lot now when I see do many WHITE WOMEN with Black guys (nope all of em ain’t fat either) because I get a lot if satisfaction knowing that all the time BETA/OMEGA white guys spend dissing other races of women to PEDESTALIZE and “pussy polish” White women, they are not rewarding you for it at ALL.”

        I hurt you bad, didn’t I? Black women are against miscegenation more than any other demographic, and you suppress your rage at seeing a brutha with a whitegirl by deluding yourself that white men put white women on a pedestal. Alls y’alls negresses know that ALL black men, 100%, would rather be with a white girl, even a fat, ugly, retarded white girl, than with a proud, beautiful [sic], independent shitskin like yourself. The boner never lies: All men of all races want to be with white women, QED^infinity.

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 5:16 pm gunslingerhero

        neecy
        you guys are pathetic. Even moreso because white women spend ZERO time waxing poetic about how “great” white men are.””””””””””””””””

        maybe in the movies
        white bitches be talking about how great I am all the fucking time
        in real life he he he

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      • @ dah trooof,

        “than with a proud, beautiful [sic], independent sh-tskin like yourself. The boner never lies”

        There is no need for profanity or name-calling. Not sh!tskin, it’s the color of chocolate, cocoa and the earth. It is skin that protects from the rays of the sun, just like your skin is pale to allow your to absorb Vitamin D from the sun. The cooler climates of Europe made your skin pale, it’s just a natural part of life for people from different parts of the world to look different. No big deal.

        People look different doesn’t mean one is better than the other.

        If you keep trying to instill your superiority over other people it’s going to drive you crazy. We’re not all supposed to look the same that’s just way it is.

        and @ neecy,

        “Actually it speaks to your INSECURITY as white men who constantly only feel worthy of yourselves by constantly telling yourselves “white womens is da best”

        really though, if white men want to “wax poetic,” about white women they can do that. Even if it does make them feel more worthy to believe that white women are the best, so what’s wrong with that? They’re allowed to believe that about their women. So long as they understand that it is just that…their belief and not necessarily shared by everyone else.

        The only thing to remember is to not force your beliefs of superiority onto other people and recognize while you may think white women are the best there are other people who think Asian women are the best or Native American women, or Aboriginal women, or mixed-race women or yes African women too.

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      • … Then how come white people are a minority population on planet earth?…

        —Thwack

        Because there is no need for us to be more numerous since we are so much better than any other race at what we do.

        Whites have always been a minority on planet earth yet they have created most of what is great an amazing on this planet from the computer you are typing on to heart transplants to the internal combustion engine to powerfull telescopes to the Global Positioning System (GPS ) .

        A handful of white men in a few decades can ( and have ) build more and better things than hundreds of millions of non-whites can ( and have ) in tens of thousands of years.

        We are that good, really we are, which is why we are hated so much.

        You are all jealous of how great we are.

        You hate it that the computer you are typing on , the internet you are using, the electricity powering your home, the food you eat, the car you drive, the shoes you wear, the pill your girlfriend uses, the antibiotics you had to take for your Gonnoreah and at least 99% of the things you use everyday and love to use are there thanks to the white race.

        You like tap water on demand? thank the white race.

        You like it that you have a refrigerator? thank the white race.

        You like it that the X-ray showed a lump early enough in your mother’s breast that they were able to remove it before it turned into cancer? thank the white race.

        You like it that help is sent to your cousins in some third world country? thank the white race.

        Almost 99% of everything that makes your life pleasant is there thanks to a small number of white men.

        Al races benefit greatly from what the white race has accomplished.

        The majority of humans who are non-white have better lives thanks to a small minority of whites.

        We are the most amazing yet the least appreciated minority in the history of planet earth.

        You are welcome you ingrate non-white.

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      • Canadian Friend

        Whites have always been a minority on planet earth yet they have created most of what is great an amazing on this planet from the computer you are typing on to heart transplants to the internal combustion engine to powerfull telescopes to the Global Positioning System (GPS )
        ——————————————————————————————-

        The time of the white man has been a cosmic eye blink and now its OVER. The foundation for all your great achievements was produced by nonwhite people who had thousands of years of civil society while your kind was living in caves eating raw meat…

        You crackers couldn’t even come up with your own religion and you wanna talk about “better?”

        Better at what?

        Destroying the planet and extinction?

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      • @ kim pop

        Please spare me your lecture. No one here us saying White men shouldn’t, or can’t worship White women. But white men take that shit too damn far believing that everyone feels the same – and everyone doesnt.

        If someone says otherwise these little betas have lityle bitch fits.

        The point I’m making us White men can’t seem to worship their women without dragging others through the myd.

        If you read my posts carefully you’d see that was my point.

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      • @ neecy,

        Neecy, you, me, Nicole and others have all said the we don’t care if white men put their women on a pedestal. We’ve all expressed that all we want is for them to stop putting down non-white women in the process and they haven’t stopped, so why stress over it or keep arguing over it. They’ll do what they want. You’ve spoken your piece, I’ve spoken my piece, some other people have too, what more can we do?

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    • Niggers HAVE game-in their own way.The purpose of game is to allow natural beta providers to ape the natural alpha.Niggers are NOT providers,by nature.Civil rights is all about freeing th err nigger from the onerous burden of being a beta.Hence flight from we work and family to the THUG LIFE!!

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 10:55 pm Hammer Of Love

      Why do black men hate themselves so much, that their main goal in life is to hook up with a white woman ?? That the main question.

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      • You are reading the book sideways.

        Our goal is to hook up with EVERY woman.

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      • A Black man needs ‘game’ only if he is a short nerd, very much like a White man.
        U kiddin’ me?
        In today’s socio-cultural climate in the West, all a Black guy has to do is show up, many women consider it practically illegal to say no to a Black guy.

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      • In today’s socio-cultural climate in the West, all a Black guy has to do is show up, many women consider it practically illegal to say no to a Black guy.

        More true than not… rare is the white woman who doesn’t at least throw in a “sorry” when stating a preference for white men only.

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      • Not in red states Wolfe…in fact many hot young black girls are white men only

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      • In today’s socio-cultural climate in the West, all a Black guy has to do is show up, many women consider it practically illegal to say no to a Black guy.

        You…..

        are…..

        …..bizarre.

        I’m beginning to think you’re related to Whiskey.

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      • More true than not… rare is the white woman who doesn’t at least throw in a “sorry” when stating a preference for white men only.

        Even in this cultural climate an obligatory “sorry” is preferable to the outright squandering of genetic heritage.

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      • @ NO

        NON RACIST white men and Black women ? yes. RACIST white men and black women ? NOT!

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      • in fact many hot young black girls are white men only
        ——————————————————————————-

        True.

        They’re called “hookers”

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    • The best kind of game is indirect and requires high levels of social intelligence and probably advanced abstract reasoning skills to some extent. Most game blogs out there are merely elaborate forms of direct game which probably will not give blacks much of an advantage.

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  16. I 110% agree with the idea of beauty being far more objective than we’re told to believe it is. I think everyone more or less knows this innately. At the same time, those composite faces aren’t doing much for me. Not that they necessarily should be, I just expected them to be less boring.

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  17. I noticed none of the girls in those photo composites is truly obese, and they’re all smiling.

    We know fat makes a women automatically uglier, but what about expression? Can smiling make a woman more attractive? Or by the same token, can a nasty attitude that shows on her face make her uglier?

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    • There was a another scientific study out a few years ago indicating that smiling while showing teeth makes females seem more feminine and attractive, while it actually makes males seem less attractive. It’s a common primate sign of submission to show one’s teeth, and one wouldn’t be hard pressed to draw the conclusion that a submissive man is less attractive

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  18. If you look at the historical country performances in Miss Universe, it seems that Latin America, Japan, and India have higher placements than most of Europe (and the conspicuous absence of China, despite its huge population) :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_country_rankings

    I also note that the composite image for ‘Europe’ has dark hair. It seems that Southern Europe dominates. That is pretty surprising,

    The ‘Asia’ composite includes yellows, browns, AND whites, since Asian countries come in all 3 of those colors, and all combos of them. Asia really is a Venn Diagram of three races, with Central Asia (the ‘Stans’) being the composite of all three.

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 12:21 pm The Spirit Within

      Interesting. For all the talk about blonde women being the most attractive in the world, there is nary a blonde to be seen in Europe’s composite…

      But I love triguenas, so that’s fine with me.

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      • I think majority white with a dash of ‘other’ is most attractive.

        Remember that Southern Europeans are part-Arab, and Eastern Europeans are part-Mongol. Both regions produce more attractive women than the purest countries of NorthWest Europe like Ireland and Britain.

        The prettiest Latina women seem to be 60-80% white, with 20-40% of ‘other’.

        White Americans are generally 95-98% white and 2-5% Native American or Hispanic.

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      • Eastern Europeans also have Jewish ancestry… we may look really white, but there’s a lot more to it.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 12:45 pm The Spirit Within

        Totally agreed, Anon2 … but the Stormfront morons who gather around here will leap down your throat for even *daring* to suggest such apostasy…

        The Central Asians have too much Asian for my taste, though.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 12:50 pm braveagnosticg

        thanks for spreading the myth of being part Arab, i could even tell apart a Spanish from a Turk who are the closest Middle Easterners…. time to read this

        http://lobertrindsay.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/the-muslims-of-spain-moors-moriscos-and-muladies/

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      • “Remember that Southern Europeans are part-Arab, and Eastern Europeans are part-Mongol.”

        Do you read comments to your moronic posts at all? Cause I have posted tons of links here to a similar comment by you,couple of days ago.This is the most stupid statement I have ever read on this site.

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      • Like Grace Kelley?

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      • Southern european here. About all being part arab, that is not correct.

        Have you been to South Europe? Only one of my parents is Southern European, and I have green eyes. My fiance is 100% Southern European and has green eyes and pale skin. His mother is blue eyed.

        There are some dark yes, but the facial features are not arab.

        This guy is 100% greek.

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      • Caramba,

        Your stupid links are simply wrong.

        Eastern Europe was part of the Golden Horde for many centuries. If you have ever actually BEEN there, you will see many Mongol-looking faces.

        Spain and Sicily have some North-African mixture – Spain was under Islamic rule for 800 years. Italians are known for having curvy noses and talking with their hands (very Arab traits).

        You being dumb is your problem.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 1:50 pm The Spirit Within

        Caramba, you should probably learn a bit about European history. The Mongols went all the way to Hungary, and the Moors owned the Iberian peninsula for 800 years. And the Romans settled in Africa.

        Mind blown?

        My grandfather always said that our eastern European family was part Mongol. He wasn’t joking.

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      • There are at least 5 famous actors/actresses/celebs of Eastern European ancestry with a rather Mongol appearance.

        Edward G. Robinson
        Yul Brynner
        Charles Bronson
        Leonard Nimoy
        Melania Knauss-Trump

        I don’t see why this is a problem, if the Mongol rule was 700 years ago. These people are still white, just part-Mongol. A simple visit to any country in Eastern Europe will show this.

        I think Caramba could not bear to see what his DNA ancestry analysis would turn up. He thinks he is 100% white. I would bet real money that he has some percentages that he really would hate.

        Caramba, you should probably learn a bit about European history.

        He is not smart enough to read objective facts.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 11:02 pm Hammer Of Love

        ” Eastern Europeans are part-Mongol. ”

        You sir are an idiot, because I’m sure all the hot Ukrainian, Russian, Polish, ect .. eastern European girls exhibit so many mongoloid features. What a stupid statement. Why don’t you back up your bullshit with some genetic studies, asshat.

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      • Hammer of faggotism,

        You clearly don’t know any people from those countries, or you would see the Mongol heritage they have. I gave examples above.

        And why is this a bad thing? The Mongol rule was 700 years ago. I understand that you can’t count that high.

        Eastern Europeans are part Mongol. The Golden Horde controlled EE for many centuries. See the map (even though I doubt you know much about geography, and thus can’t place EE on a map).

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 11:22 pm some german dude

        Robinson is Ashkenazi.
        Brynner has a Mongolian parent.
        Bronson is a Tatar.
        Nimoy is Ashkenazi.
        Knauss is from Slovenia where no Mongol ever set foot.

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      • Spain kicked the Jews out at one point in their history so it must have been a problem

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      • ” Anon2
        Hammer of faggotism,

        You clearly don’t know any people from those countries, or you would see the Mongol heritage they have. I gave examples above. ”

        Listen you fuck head, I was actually born in a Eastern European country. So, I say once again, show me your genetic evidence to back up your Mongol claims. I guarantee you cant asshole.

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 7:44 pm Hammer of Love

        ” Eastern Europeans also have Jewish ancestry… we may look really white, but there’s a lot more to it.”

        Here let me correct this statements for you. ” A small number of Jews have eastern European ancestry ” Now, the statement is logically sound. Please think before you type.

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 12:01 pm Hammer of Love

        “You clearly don’t know any people from those countries, or you would see the Mongol heritage they have. I gave examples above. ”

        Listen peg boy, show me the genetic studies like I mentioned before, or STFU.

        In case you wondering, I’ve seen many genetic breakdowns of most European groups, and any Asian influence is statistically non-existent. Next you’ll try to sell us the notion that Europeans have a major African influence. You sir, are an moron.

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    • There are more people with dark hair on earth than with blond hair.Probably 80-90% of population of Europe is dark haired. In fact, the blonds/fair haired dominate only Northern Western Europe and Northern Eastern Europe.

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      • I doubt it’s even “domination”. It’s a recessive trait.

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      • the blonds/fair haired dominate only Northern Western Europe and Northern Eastern Europe.

        You have just admitted what you were denying in the other comment.

        Southern Europe is part-North-African. Eastern Europe is part-Mongol. Hence, your correct point about where blondes reside.

        Man, tripping up you unthinkers is so easy. Your life would improve if you ever got away from the computer and saw the world.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 6:59 pm some german dude

        So what you’re saying is that you believe dark hair is a non-European trait? Lol.

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    • Why wouldn’t dark hair tend to be dominant statistically? Look at the women each nation votes for forward.

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    • well its a composite. The dark haired girls just covered up the light haired ones. Just look at the finalist average, she has lighter hair then anyone.

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  19. A composite image of America’s population by decade will also tell is exactly how much removal of whiteness has been occurring over time.

    Composite face of America, 1960, 1980, 2000, 2020, etc…

    That will tell us the real deal, and also get around attempts to expand the definition of ‘white’ (which now includes Arabs and Afghans), by displaying an objective image.

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  20. Actually CH this post wasn’t as bad as you thought it’d be. Not saying I agree with your post but it was pretty tame. 👍☝️

    Also if you’re making a case for whiteness and beauty you may not want to feature women who looked mixed I.e the composites don’t look like your atypical white girl. They actually look LATINA. So in fact mixed beauty reigns over European beauty based on what you’ve presented. 😘

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    • well i personally liked the all compsite.
      but the point was even with very different races a beatiful face is univedrsal and shockinly look the similar. but we call it whiteness due to fine feminie features and have a brighter light hue in the skin.
      testoterone darkens are complexion. you can see the difference in bros n sis growing up…from ethnic to white kids. like did u know females are more likely to have light hair n eyes then males too not just complexio.

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      • Please stop with this testosterone and estrogen bullshit based on light or dark skin!

        None of you idiots can provide and concrete scientific data behind that nonsense you keep spewing!

        If testosterone equals dark then you are saying White males who are fair have low testosterone which means they have more estrogen making them more like women

        Think about the dumb shit you’re saying before you say it!

        Please and thank you!

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    • Your avatar is unfuckable.

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    • So in fact mixed beauty reigns over European beauty based on what you’ve presented.

      Does this personal boogeywoman of your’s begin terrorizing you in elementary or high school?

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  21. Not sure what you’re trying to prove here? All you’ve pointed out is that you believe that the more whiter a woman (compared to other) the prettier she’ll be. I’m a white guy and think that is pure bullshit.

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    • God help you from the wrath the neo nazis are gonna bring in 5, 4, 3, 2…,,,

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    • One can’t construct their personal tastes (or the tastes of an outlier) around this entire argument. For example, just because we find gay men does not mean falsify the general statement that “men like women”.

      Likewise, there are a few men here and there that prefer fat women, but that doesn’t change the fact that the vast majority prefer thin women.

      In addition to the studies I have seen such as the one sited by this site’s owner (and there are many), I have been from one side of this planet to the other and I can’t tell you a culture where the men prefer darker women relative to their own hue. Is there some tribe in some jungle in some place that may be an exception? Perhaps. But the exception proves the rule.

      And one CAN NOT BLAME COLONIALISM for this phenomenon. This preference is seen in history books long before colonialism. Indeed, in many Islamic texts the women of heaven are described as being WHITE. Not to mention ancient Hindu and Japanese cultures that long preferred white skinned women.

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      • Arabs were white and likely had an in-group bias. Black women were simply convenient, not preferred. However, if in ancient Hindu and Japanese societies there was a preference for actual whiteness somehow not Caucasian, that would have insightful repercussions. Maybe fair skin correlates to an optimal testosterone level balancing physical and mental strength, but that is pure speculation. The documentation of a non-Caucasian whiteness preference would be crucial to interpretation. I am not convinced a human universal biological mechanism operating at primal level oblivious to European creation of modernity but favoring Caucasoid traits could exist. It’s going to take more to convince me. If it can be argued well, it would make a fine post.

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      • I’m not saying that there is a universal preference for “Caucasoid” traits, but that men tend to prefer their women be fairer skinned relative to themselves. Only speaking of skin tone here as there are some African cultures (e.g. Mauritania) that prefer their women to be large and disgusting (Google: “Mauritania fattening of bride”). Now THAT is not very “Caucasoid”, but they nonetheless STILL prefer fairer women relative to their own skin tone (even if they like them the size of whales) to the point where skin lightening products are popular there.

        I think it may be that being darker is associated with being more masculine (i.e, out in the sun more and working)

        Additionally famous Black American athletes and entertainers (i.e., those with the most options) tend to mate with women that are fairer than they are even if the woman is black herself. Google any famous black man you can think of with his wife or girlfriend and almost to a man his woman will be lighter skinned than he is.

        No matter how many “black is beautiful” campaigns there have been black men still prefer fairer skinned women. So do Indians. So do Japanese (who are already quite fair skinned). And so do many others.

        The only question I have is about Koreans and the Epicanthoplasty craze. Could THAT be symptom of Westernization? Perhaps.

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      • BTW, when Arabs encountered white Frankish women during the Crusades they wrote odes to their beauty, their blue eyes and fair skin. This is documented by medieval Muslim historians such as Ibn Kathir.

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      • Men prefer darker girls in Papua New Guinea. Can’t think of any others.

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      • Indeed, in many Islamic texts the women of heaven are described as being WHITE. Not to mention ancient Hindu and Japanese cultures that long preferred white skinned women.
        ———————————————————————————————-

        That may be because white is synonymous with weak or weakened?

        diluted…?

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      • Google any famous black man you can think of with his wife or girlfriend and almost to a man his woman will be lighter skinned than he is.
        ———————————————————————————————-

        Does Obama qualify as famous?

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      • Again, there will always be exceptions (note I said ALMOST to a man).

        And to clarify (in case this strawman is brought) I am NOT arguing that every lighter skinned woman is prettier by default. I am only saying that generally speaking when given options dark skinned men will choose a mate that is lighter skinned than he is.

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      • @reality Doug
        well light skin in women result in better vitamin D absorption which is crucial in pregnancy.
        women are the fairer sex for a reason while we are the tall dark handsome ones. Plus they did this study of 2 computer generated faces(one dakrer then the other). and people assumed the darker one was the brother,while the sister is assumed to be lighter.
        light skin+feminine,
        dark skin+masculine(makes your muscles look more defined

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      • Indeed, in many Islamic texts the women of heaven are described as being WHITE. Not to mention ancient Hindu and Japanese cultures that long preferred white skinned women.
        ———————————————————————————————-

        That may be because white is synonymous with weak or weakened?

        diluted…?

        Lawdy,lawdy, thwack done got hisself a thesaurus from the community college Dept. of Coloured Peoples Studies!

        In the real world, white (when referencing heaven or anything divine) is synonymous with “pure”, “unsullied”, “clear”, “good”, “unmarked by sin”, etc., etc.

        There’s a reason He is often referred to as “The White Christ”, especially back in European conversion days of yore.

        If’n ya jes’ tryin’ a troll, thwack, beware… the debbil gonna getcha if’n ya don’t watch out!

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      • thwack

        Google any famous black man you can think of with his wife or girlfriend and almost to a man his woman will be lighter skinned than he is.
        ———————————————————————————————-

        Does Obama qualify as famous?

        Depends… who’s the real man in THAT relationship?

        LOLZOZLZOZLZOZLOZLOZLOZLOZLOZLOZL

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      • Hey thwack does Obama qualify as black

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      • …Does Obama qualify as famous?

        He started as famous but is becoming infamous now because of the poor job he is doing ( Benghazi mess, Increasing the debt as if money grew on trees, IRS scandal, Obamacare debacle, etc etc)

        If he keeps it up and lets in more illegals that carry deadly contagious diseases he will be the most infamous US president.

        Don’t take my word for it, look at survey numbers, less and less people like Obama.

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      • LE Bron James (top athlete) and wife

        Dwayne Wade and fiancé

        That should get you started

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      • “Men prefer darker girls in Papua New Guinea. Can’t think of any others.”

        What do you base this on, especially when PNG has hundreds and hundreds of ethnic groups?

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    • oh beautiful yet functionally retarded Teddy……

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    • dr.vandal savage
      ya thats true, think when celtic slaves came to arabia and rome, the locals wanted dye their hair blond or wear their hair as wigs…well the women did.

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    • The most beautiful woman in the world?

      There are quite literally hundreds of thousands of run of the mill women in Europe, America, Australia and South America who are vastly more attractive.

      Put Lupita N’Bongo in a suit and you wouldn’t even know she was female.

      You have to be a frigging troll.

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    • Not sure what you’re trying to prove here? All you’ve pointed out is that you believe that the more whiter a woman (compared to other) the prettier she’ll be. I’m a white guy and think that is pure bullshit.

      Well, all righty then!

      Teddy’s white and he doesn’t agree… the issue’s settled… especially since NeNe’s on board!

      lzozlzozlzolzolzolzozlozlozlozl

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      • I also don’t agree.
        As someone who grew up in an environment that was almost 100% White – the odd Turkish laborer here & there, not enough to even produce a blip on the radar, saw my first real-life Black person (a business man or diplomat in a 3-piece suit) when I was 15, maybe 1 or 2 Chinese restaurant waitresses – I can assure you that there are plenty of average and ugly White people.
        There is no direct correlation between skin tone and beauty (=bone structure).

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      • Thank you! His does a fkn skin tone determine beUty? That is the most ridiculous nonsense ever that’s seeped in White racism.

        If your ass is ugly it’s because of your ugly features not your skin shade.

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      • The fact that there are plenty of ugly whites and plenty of good-looking coloured folks is not the point, folks.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • As someone who grew up in an environment that was almost 100% White

        And this right here gives definition to your fetisization of black men. The same is true of your doppelganger, Whiskey.

        Your formative experiences with this cohort consisted of pixelated images racing across a tube television screen, the damage of which has persisted into adulthood.

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    • You didn’t read the article did you. There is a point of diminishing returns with whiteness but on the other hand all things being equal white is the icing that takes the cake

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    • All you’ve pointed out is that you believe that the more whiter a woman (compared to other) the prettier she’ll be. I’m a white guy and think that is pure bullshit

      Oh… Okay then. It’s settled.
      .
      .
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      We really do live is a kakistocracy.

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      • Greg – It is, actually, since the original point the post (and many before it) is trying to make that simply being White (or lighter) makes you automatically more attractive than someone who is darker, which is incorrect. Nothing ‘automatic’ about it.
        Example: Otto Waalkes (say: Vahl-kess), very popular German comedian since the 1970’s. He’s from east Friesland, the very northwestern fringes of Germany, is about as pale, blonde, blue-eyed and Nordic as you can get without being translucent, but no one would ever describe him as ‘handsome’. He is a very funny guy, though. His type is very common in that part of the world.
        Pluvio – No fetishization here, I assure you, that’s reserved for people who grew up (which they haven’t finished doing) watching Michael JacksonJordan, Shaq, Usha, Tu-Pac, Deion Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Whitneymariah Houstoncarey, Oprah the Hut and an endless list of other sports and musical celebrities…..which I did not.
        There were very few Black skiers, soccer players or European pop stars at the time……..almost none, actually.

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      • Greg – It is, actually, since the original point the post (and many before it) is trying to make that simply being White (or lighter) makes you automatically more attractive than someone who is darker, which is incorrect. Nothing ‘automatic’ about it.

        Ummm… no it’s not.

        We’re all smart enough, here at the chateau, to understand that (given the choice) the vast majority of white folks would rather be Denzel Washington than Danny Devito.

        The point of the story is that, once you get past the idea of “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”, and that there is a solid case for an actual “standard of beauty”, said standard leans towards the fair- (or at least fairer-) skinned.

        Which comes awfully close to the “Well, DUH!” school of cognitive reasoning.

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      • The women in the beauty-pageant composite aren’t that fair-skinned. They’re all dark-skinned (for a white woman). So, any skin tone north of Italy seems to start moving -away- from the ideal.

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    • He said white-ish, which I take to mean ‘with some caucasoid admixture.’ The composite girls all could live in the Mediterranean — which makes sense.

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  22. “The big wide-set eyes, the bright smiles, the good teeth, the high foreheads and cheekbones, the dainty noses”

    All neanderthal traits. Would be nice to see a morph of socket depth on the females.

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    • High foreheads and dainty noses aren’t Neanderthal traits.

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      • But they could well be a human/Neanderthal hybrid.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 6:54 pm some german dude

        B-but Dr. Koanic Soul and Prof. Varg Vikernes said that Neanderthals were a beautiful Aryan superrace. Just look at this skull, she must’ve been a 10 at the very least:

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      • Dat prognathism! Hnnnggg!

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      • The re-writing of human genetic evolution to claim Neanderthals as Aryan superheroes is one of the more hilariously unscientific, tinfoil hat fringes of HBD.

        [CH: some neanderthal DNA has left an imprint on modern white europeans, an imprint which sub-saharan africans don’t have. so the premise underlying the speculation isn’t without merit.]

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      • I know, I’ve been around that corner of the internet. I just wish I’d spent that time around girls instead (Aryan or non-Aryan, Neanderthal or non-Neanderthal). LOL

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      • [CH: some neanderthal DNA has left an imprint on modern white europeans, an imprint which sub-saharan africans don’t have.
        ———————————————————————————————-ell

        Which imprint is that?

        The one that tells you not to put buns in the oven?

        In addition, don’t forget that AFRICAN PEOPLE have and continue to live outside of the African continent.

        They are the original HUEman.

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 8:21 pm Hammer of Love

        “In addition, don’t forget that AFRICAN PEOPLE have and continue to live outside of the African continent.

        They are the original HUEman.”

        Twacky my boy, theories come and go. Why don’t you get with the latest ones.

        http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=19566

        http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/07/0703_020704_georgianskull_2.html

        http://www.cbsnews.com/news/out-of-africa-theory-may-need-a-rewrite/

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      • Faggot of Love

        Twacky my boy, theories come and go. Why don’t you get with the latest one.
        ————————————————————————————————

        Because thats an old “white man trick” where they try to sell you “the latest theory” ; which clearly has not withstood the test of time…

        Publishing and advertising are two industries which abuse this technique all the time.

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 12:09 pm Hammer of Love

        ” Because thats an old “white man trick” where they try to sell you “the latest theory” ; which clearly has not withstood the test of time…

        Publishing and advertising are two industries which abuse this technique all the time. ”

        Is that the best you can do, house negro. I doubt your small brain realizes that the ” out of Africa ” theory was put forth by white men also.

        I’ve never attacked you personally before, but you chose to call me a fagot, so all bets are off now BOY. Your debating tactics reek of a low I.Q.

        Save yourself some embarrassment , and go play with your new Air Jordans, or something more appropriate for your kind, you genetic has-been.

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      • There are more than one species of Neanderthal. The gracile Thal did indeed have those features.

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    • You are using the outdated thinking of Neanderthals ..

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    • “The big wide-set eyes, the bright smiles, the good teeth, the high foreheads and cheekbones, the dainty noses”

      this is what people should be focusing on instead of getting hung up on a white skin vs brown skin debate like a bunch of morons.

      it’s the facial structure that we find attractive. that’s why all white women aren’t automatically beautiful just because they have light skin and why we can still find beautiful women with darker skin.

      the ugly women…of any color, don’t have these physical traits and the most beautiful women in the world, white or not, do have them. simple as that.

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      • Yeah, but all other factors being equal, the lighter gals are considered “more beautiful” by men of ALL races.

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      • “the lighter gals are considered “more beautiful” by men of ALL races.”

        i agree that most men have a preference for lighter skin. there’s no question about that. and i am likely the exception to the rule but for me personally, i prefer a girl somewhere in the middle of the spectrum for skintone with good facial structure and body.

        i just don’t find super dark or super white women attractive. and although there are more light women with the facial features that i like, i much prefer the skin of a tannish white woman, an asian or a latina girl over someone with very pale or black skin. their skin just looks healthier to me.

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  23. So this 18 year old Brazilian girl from Tinder I’ve been texting wants to meet up with me but she wants to bring her 19 year old female cousin. Should I flirt with both of them?

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 6:14 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Game them both and you’ve got a twofer. Ignore one of them and you’ve got your right hand.

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 6:15 pm driveallnight

      You’ll be expected to buy drinks/food for both girls if you let the “cousin” tag along. This is standard in the undeveloped world.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 11:37 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        And the developed world, too. Pay for play is wired into a broad’s M.O., no matter where she hails from. The only difference is the amount of resources you’ll be expected to expend before she lets you pound her pussy.

        Obviously, your M.O. should be to minimize your resource investment and maximize your jerk appeal to seal the deal.

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    • on August 10, 2014 at 5:41 am Mean Mr. Mustard.

      I can guarantee you that the cousin will be at least a couple of points less attractive than the girl you are interested in.
      Meet them, get there early, get yourself a drink and wait.
      When they arrive, talk a while, excuse yourself, go to the bar, get yourself another drink and come back … sit down, and then say innocently … ohhh I hope you weren’t hoping that I would buy the both of you drinks.
      If they get up and walk … be prepared to laugh.

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    • Sounds like you’re about to get your wallet milked by 2 li’l scam artists.

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  24. Women find male preeminence superlatively attractive. I’m surprised that I don’t see anything here about how ‘white’ has perhaps been made a fashionable rather than an instinctive preference. If women can believe in destroying their own civilization in their heart of hearts, they can certainly have the convictions that create a globally pervasive white fetish. The devil in the details is a masculine concept, women lack moral agency, and I doubt the preference for white is hardwired, not that it couldn’t become that way in 50,000 years. We’ve had a global valuation of sexual value since when? the color TV?

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    • The only explanation for blue eyes is that people found them to be aesthetically valuable once they began to appear 12,000 or so years ago. That and the intelligence that seems to be part of the package.

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      • OR,

        OR,

        A “contingent” of people were cut off from the rest of humanity and diving around in that shallow gene pool in conjunction with long winters, minimal sunlight… resulted in a recessive trait such as blue eyes becoming more and more common.

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      • Dat Yakub!

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      • Heh, heh… thwack’s back to the bizarro-world thesaurus… where brown people who have the least hair texture and color and eye color diversity are the “deep ” end of the gene pool.

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      • Greg,

        You see all the different dog breeds in the world today?

        Guess what?

        They all descended from an “original breed” call “dog”.

        This “dog” contained all the information necessary to produce all the breeds of dogs you see today.

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      • And as anyone who knows dogs or has trained dogs will tell you, some breeds of dogs are more intelligent than others.

        Thanks for helping us prove our point.

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      • “intelligent” at doing what?

        Being the white mans bitch?

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      • Thwack, as usual your retorts show more bark than bite… the issue here is your neener-neener attempts at using language such as “shallow end” to describe a race that shows the greatest diversity, brains, and beauty.

        Now go sell your wuff tickets elsewhere.

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      • Greg Eliot
        the issue here is your neener-neener attempts at using language such as “shallow end” to describe a race that shows the greatest diversity, brains, and beauty.
        ————————————————————————————————-

        And your suggestion to replace the term “shallow end” with another term is what?

        At the level of DNA molecular structure, specifically, mitochondrial DNA; the African has the greatest Genetic diversity. This is the EVIDENCE, not proof but the EVIDENCE the white man uses to claim human origins are African.

        All you do is compare hair and eye color; nothing very diverse about a reduced ability to produce and stimulate melanocytes.

        Your assumption that some mindless, unguided, random selection process produced a person more genetically diverse than its ancestors is like saying a bunch of blind ghetto ni66ers banging on keyboards can come up with the complete works of Shakespear if they just keep at it for long enough.

        You sound like Nicole.

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      • […]… Your assumption that some mindless, unguided, random selection process produced a person more genetically diverse than its ancestors is like saying a bunch of blind ghetto ni66ers banging on keyboards can come up with the complete works of Shakespear if they just keep at it for long enough….

        Yeah that is like saying that from the wolf – the ancestor of the dog – we could come up with something more diverse than the original such as Chiwawas, Greyhounds, Boxers and St-Bernard! or come up with Sheep dogs which are the most intelligent of dogs who can understand up to 400 different words/commands!

        Thwack you are dog gone right about this one!

        It is COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE!!!

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      • Thwack, I don’t know what school of science they been teaching at Afrocentrist U, but let me tell ya how things truly stand.

        As things progress from the simple to the complex, it makes no sense… NO SENSE, to describe the complex as the “shallow end” of anything.

        And if you want to give the simple any sort of physical or psychological “credit” for having been there before the complex, then let us all bow down, in turn, to primates, lesser mammals, reptiles, fish, and ultimately, primordial ooze.

        Now, I understand that your voodoo-sodden ilk are well-familiar with the worship of things like reptiles and such… but YT ain’t playing THAT who’s yo’ daddy dozens.

        llozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlozlozlozlol

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      • Your nobility were scum and pus encrusted, syphillitic, insane perverts who literally shit at the table and did not wash their hands for fear of demons entering their bodies until fairly recently in history. Some still do some old school mess at private parties.

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  25. The 1-3.4 composite is slightly more attractive than my wife now, and she might have just narrowly been a 4.0 at 22. Thanks, donuts.

    That friend girl I was totally obsessed over is a pretty solid 5, and the hottest stripper I’ve ever seen was a solid 7, but most of the ones I’ve seen have been in the 4-6 range, and probably trending toward 5. It’s sad when you can make a living stripping when you’re only a 5.

    Reality is cold, girls. Here is a razor blade. If you want to do it right, dig out the femoral artery, and cut that. No pain, no gain!

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    • Don’t worry Papa, the composites of those low-rank cohorts are way hotter than the indivuals in those same cohorts. So your wife may not be hotter than the composite but she’s probably hotter than a lot of women in the composite.

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    • The biggest influence on what ‘cohort’ men will place a girl into is her weight. The Hot or Not pics seem to demonstrate that fat is wack. The girls who are 3’s or less have bad features, but all the other girls are just increasingly thin up until 9-9.5. The girl in the 4.0 picture seems like she’d look like the girls in the 8+ pic if she lost a lot of weight.

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  26. My thoughts about this.
    High estrogen levels/high fertility are associated with fairer skin. – High estrogen higher attractiveness regardless of race. Where as high T is correlated to darker skin, (within one’s race.)

    High estrogen is also associated with more narrow nose, larger eyes and a generally more neotenous face. The objective of beauty is a typical high estrogen high fertility face.

    From a cultural perspective, dark and tanned skin is associated with poverty. At least in Europe. It indicates a woman of lower social status who had to labor in the fields, darkening the skin.
    Interestingly even Songs of Solomon in the Bible has this verse,

    “Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother’s children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.” Songs of Solomon 1.6.

    I think there are beautiful women of every color of skin, but that there is a general preference for fairer skin universally, is accepted, I think.

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    • Yes, “fairness” is a universal beauty ideal (along with youth, low WHR, symmetry etc.) Not necessarily “Whiteness” as a racial category. The two are correlative, of course, but most social science research I’ve come across suggests men across the board strongly prefer fairer-skinned women of their own race.

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  27. I would rape all these fake women. Darn you reality!

    Composite rape!

    (Also, PA is a gay liar. Skittles!)

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  28. Where are all the blondes?!?

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  29. Women like me are indeed rare. I’m 48 and I still get asked for my I.D. I’m fair haired, fair eyed with a fair complexion and slender. The fact that people don’t believe I’m really my age proves that it is actually exceedingly rare for a woman of my age to look like me. I’ve seen some dumpy women half my age though so that probably skews people’s opinion too.

    That being said, everyone should take care of themselves regardless of age or gender. I honestly don’t understand how anyone can feel comfortable in their own bodies when they are borderline diabetic and nearing obesity.

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    • People are asking for your ID because you are likely in a state that has mandatory checking regardless of age.
      I’m sure you look younger than 48, but don’t be delusional. Nothing is more unattractive, really.

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      • Oh I have no illusions about myself but where I get asked for my i.d. is usually not mandatory. I will be with my husband in a sushi restaurant and they will ask for my I.d. (not my husband’s) before I can order saki or at pretty much any family restaurant. I find it annoying and not flattering at all because it’s embarrassing and inconvenient at my age.

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    • What colour are you?

      Black girls bodies make them look older when they are younger; but their skin makes them look younger when they are older.

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    • you shpuld post pictures many non asian women esp. white use the excuse “we dont age well” and not take care of themseles. assumin you are truthful u are the dodo sadly..hopefully more people try to care for themselves better.

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      • “white use the excuse “we dont age well” and not take care of themseles.”

        i don’t think it’s an excuse. this lady is likely a dodo as you say. white skin might be pretty when it’s young and plump but it doesn’t usually age as well as darker skin.

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    • For what it is worth,

      I’m a white male and when I was in my late 40s lots of people thought I was in my twenties.

      I’ll soon be 55 and altough I do not look 20 years younger anymore, people still are surprised I am that old. I still look at least 10 years younger than I am.

      It is 90% good genes ( which is luck, I’ll be the first to admit that ) and about 10 % not treating my body like a dump ( rarely eating junk food or eating excessive quantities, never abused drugs or alcohol, regular exercise, some time in the sun but without excess etc etc ).

      Both my parents (still alive) and well into their 80s look like they are in their late 60s.

      my point is; we are rare but we do exist.

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  30. Beauty has a purpose. It doesn’t exist just to exist. The purpose of beauty is — for men — an advertisement of how healthy and fertile a woman is. This is why lighter skinned women are preferable. It’s much easier to tell health/fertility in light skin than dark skin (the same is true for blond hair. Post-wall natural blond is much more obvious than other post-wall hair).

    This also explains why women don’t place as much of an emphasis on looks as men. We bring much more to the table than fertility.

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  31. The single largest group on Earth are the Chinese – 1.4 billion in China, at least 300 million abroad, and growing at the rate of 10 million a year with 70,000 immigrating to the U. S. every year. In this sense they are typical human beings, and yet the Chinese tend to be short and broad-faced. God, apparently, loves short broad-faced people who won’t win any beauty contests. After all, He created so many if them 🙂

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    • Nonsense.

      We created ourselves through endless, socially mandatory fucking

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 10:32 pm braveagnosticg

      So what? these Chinese men (and some Korean) have millions of fangirls

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 10:57 pm No Yellow Fever Here.

      I went out on a date with a Chinese born woman that I met via an online dating website. She has lived in Australia for the last 8 years.

      Points of note:
      – unusually tall for an Asian at around 5’8′. Late 30’s, divorcee, no kids.
      – ok looking but had the typical flat ass and flat chest.
      – her manner was too rapid fire and business like.
      – English delivered with a strong Chinese accent gets annoying.

      Having tried with Chinese women a handful of times now, I have realised that the only way to seduce one is to take her out to an expensive restaurant (you pay of course) and bring along printouts of all your assets and your business plan.

      Never again.

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      • Not into east Asian chicks – for the reasons you stated – but Chinese-American girls come in 2 basic flavors: Ultra-traditional, will only look at Asian guys (who will need to bring his bank printouts to the first date), because mom, dad and 10,000 years of culture say no to anything else, or hyper-hip wanna-be ghetto chicks chasing the Black guys with the most gold chains, downest dope and flyest rims.

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      • The first type of woman you talked about is actually not bad for society. The only thing I have against those women are their materialism. As far as I am concerned, as long as a man makes enough money to support a three person family that is all that is necessary. If a woman is looking for a man who makes money in excess of that, she is a gold digger.

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 11:19 pm No Yellow Fever Here.

        SC, what they are expecting compared to what they are offering is simply not worth the trouble or the expense.

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    • Hey Jesus was only 5’3 130

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  32. Don’t forget fellas – The DARKER you are the more handsome and masculine you appear to all races.

    So just be sure that while you’re talking about “fairness” being preferred by men, the same ain’t true when it comes to womens preferences which is DARK.

    Just thought id remind you of that 😉

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 11:09 pm Hammer Of Love

      You would probably love all the ISIS and Al-Qaeda fighters then. They would show you a really dark, good time.

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      • No need. There will be plenty of the darkest, most beautiful men at the Shango festivals worldwide this year.

        When African women love African men, we’re doing things right. Since we’re so ugly, y’all shouldn’t miss us or complain.

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      • ” When African women love African men, we’re doing things right. ”

        You’re one of the few Black / African posters on here that actually understands things correctly Nicole.

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      • I just figure a healthy minded person will generally prefer the looks of people from whom they’ve had the best experiences. Folks will make tradeoffs or expand their horizons when it’s warranted, but one who had a good African father and other male role models, raised in relatively stable African culture, will prefer African men. Problems start when people have bad experiences within their own culture, and/or find their culture crumbling around them.

        In that way, I think many Americans across colors are having the same problem, and should shelve the hostilities for the sake of survival.

        Beauty debates have always been a part of class debates. Having more beauty is better for the same reasons having more money is better…but neither cleans a soul, and both can be taken away in an instant. So it needs to be viewed in perspective.

        Life is short, and yet it is long. Mistakes made from screwed up priorities can be much more permanent than the rose of a cheek.

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    • agreed. the darker complexion makes you look more musculer and mascukine. least it makes u look more outdoorsy n healthy.
      but i think its weird though that out in india guys are using skin lighting cream …they must be gay or metrosexual.
      fairness is just that nice femine glow that should stay on women

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 2:58 am Mean Mr. Mustard.

        India has historically had a caste system (use your Google-fu) and dark skin is associated with having to work, outdoors type, hard work.
        Lighter skin is associated with aristocracy and wealth.
        This also applies right through Asia.
        It is not uncommon to see Asian women in particular, walking around Western cities using an umbrella to shield themselves from the sun.

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      • well aware of it…im from the culture. buti think thats a front cuz we as humans plain like fair skin in females. the wealthy go outside enjoyin their wealth an they darken up as well. do you know how hard it is to lighten skin without creams.its very hard. like i havent worn sandals since i was a kid. now my feet is just a lil lite brown. keep inmind i had fair skin like a white person as a baby. but im a kal penn brown.
        frowin up when our skin looked light we were complimented for bein good lookin not how rich they were. im guessin people put tgat theory together due to richer people takin begter care of themselves and had a healthy glow from a good diet while the poor didnt. not like the rich locked themselves in dark basements 24/7 or wore burkhas(its original use in arabia)

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 11:08 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        Well, being outdoors and tanning IS healthy. I don’t get what’s so weird with what Indians guy do though. It’s not like they’re the colour of cheese when they use skin lighting cream. This whole skin color thing is rather silly though: it’s simple, just tan enough to be darker than most women you plan on pursuing, but don’t go to extremes. Much as I like fair skinned women, I don’t like sickly, pasty broads either and I assume it’s the opposite for women.

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      • “I don’t like sickly, pasty broads either”

        i second that

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    • Don’t forget fellas – The DARKER you are the more handsome and masculine you appear to all races.

      Brad Pitt and Robert Redford be (((shakin’ they haid))).

      James Dean and Steve McQueen be spinnin’.

      I don’t recall any posters of Sidney Poitier in girls’ bedrooms, back in the day.

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      • Darker skin creates deeper shadows, making muscles look more pronounced, which is why many light-skinned body builders will tan or spray-tan before a competition.
        Even if their actual development is equal, the darker guy will LOOK more ripped.

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      • Thank you, Cap’n Obvious…

        But the original claim was darker = more handsome and masculine… musculature itself is but one part of “masculine”… and to many women, not even a significant part.

        Up until recent times, “tall, dark, and handsome” was an expression that invariably described the looks of a Tyrone Power, Bill Medley, George Hamilton, etc.

        Not Sidney Poitier… or Richard Roundtree… or Will Smith… luzlzozl

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      • Lol yep @ GE

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      • jd n sq are old.
        brad pitt in fight club when he had that tan goin was a teen girls wet dream. girls worship status first hence why beiber is king to them. he looks like a dyke but yet they want him. the only blavks i can think of would be usher or will smith. when they put in a white actor he aint a ginger hes always a tanned or olive toned dark hgired guy

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      • o yaforgot about tyson beckford…now jeremy meek lol

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      • @Greg Eliot

        http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TallDarkAndHandsome

        this is true. Its a troupe referring to those of Mediterranean origin for their dark hair and olive complexion. But has expanded to include pale goths and ethnic people. But that olive complexion is the original,which is considered “dark” to europeans but “fair” to those from india or middle east.

        This troupe was created because no one wanted to see a pasty pale feminine looking leading man at the time. you can find this on wiki on sexual attraction

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness

        just go to the skin color section. Females typically dont care about skin color and if they do, a little darker then themselves. If they like lighter chances are shes brainwashed by media to like metrosexual boys like in kpop or bieber.

        I even remember this radio post on beat 94.5 back in the day. that women during ovulation like strong,hairy,handsome,dark skinned men. When Neera said that, kid Carson wasnt thrilled cause hes ginger. My question was How dark? Like black(cause rap was popular at the time)?

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    • For me this is somewhat true. I’m very fair skinned but seem to be most attracted to men who are darker-complected… my bf is “black Irish”, my HS bf was of Italian descent, etc. Dark skinned men are very attracted to blondes… I wonder if there’s a biological basis for it. Are we are programmed to be attracted to people mostly–but not exactly– like us, to keep the gene pool strong?

      *And in case my troll comes along, I am talking about darker-complected CAUCASIANS. Not African-Americans or Hispanics.

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 5:16 pm Hammer of Love

        “black Irish”

        Oh dear god, a “black Irish” . I’m sure his ancestors fought alongside William Wallace ! Some people are beyond hope.

        Say hi to your ” white Zulu” friends for me sweet cheeks.

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 5:19 pm Hammer of Love

        ” I wonder if there’s a biological basis for it. ”

        Sure baby. That’s why we still have white , blue eyed, blond hair people on this planet, because their’s a biological basis for blondes and the dark races to mate. Your logic is amazing. lolz

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      • The “dark and handsome” Whites aren’t necessarily darker-skinned than blonde Whites. Some have very light skin. They just have darker eyes and hair — and facial features that cast a “darkness” over their eyes. A young Daniel Day Lewis (or any number of classic leading men) is one example.

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      • “Sure baby. That’s why we still have white , blue eyed, blond hair people on this planet, because their’s a biological basis for blondes and the dark races to mate. Your logic is amazing. lolz”

        He’s not a “dark race” jackass. Lol what, are you jealous?

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      • @Amy-“LOL, what are you jealous?” What a scholarly rebuttal!!! Very surprising coming from an educated western woman LOL. Did I say educated? I meant indoctrinated. Instead of maybe thinking this guy could be right, you have the typical response. God help us. You come here to learn the TRUTH and still this crap comes from your mouth. WOWOWEEWEEWOW!

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      • @LexSex: you also seem a little overly invested in this. Here are a couple things to keep in mind: 1. If you insult my boyfriend, I’ll insult you. Not that he needs it or cares, it’s just reflexive. 2. I’ll take my “truth” from a select group here who have my respect. Don’t assume you’re one of them.

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      • Tsk, tsk… I’m not sure whether “just jealous” is Cathedral shaming language or just part-and-parcel of whatever ingrained sugar-n-spice (ha!) elements make up the female mind.

        Where have you gone, GasButtox,
        The chateau turns its lonely eyes to you…
        Woo, woo, woo.

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 12:14 pm Hammer of Love

        ” I’ll take my “truth” from a select group here who have my respect. ”

        Truth is not subjective you ignoramus.

        Is this bitch for real ??

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    • Sorry, but all black girls want white dick because no one wants to be black, and everyone wants their kids to be lighter. And if you want to use that Alpha/Omega hierarchy, blacks are the Omegas of the entire world – on the bottom in every country.

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      • well in their case its hypergamy…which trumps everything. Probably explains why the pale races were the most hard working like german barbarians vikings japanese etc. But you can be a muscular black slave descendant like Jack Johnson and the white bitches be flocking to them. His charisma,physique and boxing skills was all he needed in his time period.
        you can check stormfront in the “ladies only” section, they have a”tall dark and handsome” thread all men with dark brown or black hair with usually an olive complxion…some fair. red heads and blondes got little to no love. And these are WN women, gets you thinking about non-wn women and the libtards.

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      • “Sorry, but all black girls want white dick because no one wants to be black”

        I do not know if I agree with this assumption. I think some African-American women, a minority, may be attracted to white men for individual reasons, but also some African-American women just want to broaden their dating options. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gwJ5JNlWxM

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      • Kim Pop

        “Sorry, but all black girls want white dick because no one wants to be black”

        I do not know if I agree with this assumption. I think some African-American women, a minority, may be attracted to white men for individual reasons, but also some African-American women just want to broaden their dating options.
        ————————————————————————————————

        Stop overthinking this shit like a white man. Its real simple; the white man controls the wealth, resources and means of production. If you want a piece of cake, you gotta get with him.

        This also explains why the white man must practice racism; he knows the white woman is not necessarily attracted to him, but to the wealth, resources and means of production he controls.

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      • @ Thwack,

        I think women in general just want a man who will provide for and protect them and men want a woman who is a nurturer. I think across color lines this is true. Simple as that.

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    • Neecy

      Don’t forget fellas – The DARKER you are the more handsome and masculine you appear to all races.
      ———————————————————————————————

      dont forget makeup, dance steps and the ability to strike a pose

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  33. Study is flawed because they don’t show their bodies.

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    • Funny you mention that, because there are some women who have naturally slender faces and big, dumpy bodies. When you’re driving down the highway, never flirt with a girl who isn’t in a convertible. lol

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      • I don’t know about you guys but I see fertility and fecundity in a womans body shape too, not just her face.

        The idealized perfect white female face worshiped by many here only goes so far for me; I can appreciate it; but it could never overcome all the other variables necessary to select a wife, GF or lover…

        I don’t have a problem with white males using it; but they shouldn’t attempt to project it onto all other men.

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      • I’m a tit man myself.

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      • Then stop eating donuts and go lift, Greg. You fairy !

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      • Wha… can’t I do both?

        Okay, I admit I’ve cut way back on the sweets, lo, this past decade… but I’m still lifting better than ever… in no small part so I CAN indulge in the occasional hammantasche. 😉

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    • I too have a hard time rating a woman’s attractiveness if I can not see her body.

      Anyone who has watched enough porn knows that a pretty face is unfortunately not always attached to a nice body.

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  34. on August 9, 2014 at 7:35 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

    Off topic, but worthy of its own thread.

    All I can say is OUCH …. fucking OUCH.

    http://www.dailylife.com.au/life-and-love/love,-sex-and-relationships/the-three-little-words-that-ended-a-marriage-20140810-3dg37.html

    He didn’t make the entitled c*nt feel “special”.

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 11:29 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Dude should conduct a paternity test on both of his daughters. If they’re not his, he can make up for lost time by stabbing them repeatedly with his cock.

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    • Welcome to beta world.

      But I had to go on, I had to fight my cramping stomach and ask the big questions. Are you sleeping with him? Of course not! Are you in love with him? Don’t be stupid! She made me feel guilty for questioning her loyalty, for going through her phone. She was sorry. She didn’t want to risk our family over something so trivial.

      A few days later, my wife decided that our marriage was over. She had found her “soul mate” and wanted to be with him, not me. I know it’s a cliché, but I genuinely hadn’t seen it coming.

      Note the stonewalling then flipping of the shitwife (and, throughout, the lack of balls of the beta). Zero respect. Remember that if you’re a married “provider”.

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    • I’d say this guy is lucky. His kids are mostly grown and he gets rid of her without having to be the instigator. He can go out and marry a younger woman and have another family. I used to work with a guy whose wife divorced him when they were in their 40s with three teenage kids. He said there was an epidemic of divorce in his suburb as the wives all egged each other on. He ended up remarrying a never married women in her mid 30s and having another family shortly thereafter. He said he ended up with a younger, better looking, smarter wife and had more kids so he was fine with how it eventually turned out.

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      • > “He said he ended up with a younger, better looking, smarter wife and had more kids so he was fine with how it eventually turned out.”

        COTY.

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  35. […] Beauty Is Objective, Fair-Skinned, And White-ish (Chateau Heartiste) […]

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  36. Of course, this is all the product of western media propaganda, glorifying the thin white girl image.

    But to be serious, paleness is associated with youth, and women are paler than men from any race. When people tell me Asian guys to like moon-pale women because of whites, I tell them it’s probably been that way since before we knew whites existed.

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  37. on August 9, 2014 at 9:27 pm some german dude

    The composites look eerily lifeless, exaggerated facial symmetry isn’t very attractive. Women who participate in beauty pageants invest so much in their make up/hair do/surgery to conceal potentially unattractive features, but the result is a sort of McDonald’s beauty which appeals only to the masses. Contrast this with fashion models who are actually selected for their unique features.

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    • on August 9, 2014 at 10:48 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

      Give me a slightly curvier, lingerie type model any day of the week.
      Fashion models tend to be tall, bony, skinny bitches.

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      • on August 9, 2014 at 11:45 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        Fashion models have the sex appeal of a balance beam.

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      • Let’s keep in context that balance beams are more appealing than 95% of overweight women

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      • Stop being an undercover Golliwog.

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 8:29 pm Mean Mr. Mustard.

        “Let’s keep in context that balance beams are more appealing than 95% of overweight women.”

        No argument there.

        I sometimes look at grossly overweight women and wonder if they are part of the Homo Sapiens species or have morphed into something else entirely.

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      • From behind they look like young skinny boys.

        They have the same butt and same hips as young boys do.

        I’m not into young boys thus those models turn me off completely.

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  38. on August 9, 2014 at 11:36 pm having a bad day

    FR

    first of all…DAMN you, CH…lol…damn you and your teachings of reality-based observation of female beauty and behavior…lol…

    i went to the BIG MALL for a shopping expedition…weekend afternoon, typical nice summer day, so people were out and about (and should have been happy…lol)…I haven’t been there since I was blue-pill beta, a couple years ago… hundreds of stores/shops, thousands of people…and I started making observations…lol…

    external observations – it was busy, busy, busy…but i was surprised at the change of scenery…lol… i remember scoping out hundreds of ‘hot’ girls/women the last time i was there. this time, not so much…lol…and while it’s possible that the quality of girls went down that much in 2 years, it’s MUCH more likely that i changed…lol…

    THIS time, there wasn’t more than a couple dozen girls (total) that i would even consider crossing the courtyard/food court to open. there were still thousands of girls/women around, but my standards/observational reality has changed…REALLY changed…lol…

    where last time there were just hundreds of “hot” girls in the 8 to 10 range…(and i didn’t think I had a shot with any of them…lol)…now there was just – buck teeth, man jaws, bad skin, skinny hips, short hair, ‘less than pleasing’ facial symmetry, etc…lol…oh, and LOTS of FAT…bleh…lol…

    there were visible tats on about half of the women, and of the ‘passable’ girls (over a 6)…about 70% had visible tats…I also noticed that every woman that had ‘brightly’ colored hair was FAT…lol…i didn’t see one, NOT ONE, female that was less than a beachball shape that had the ‘look at ME’ hair color…lol…it was really sad actually…lol…

    i noticed that none, and i mean NONE, of the women that i saw with their betas in tow looked happy…they looked cranky, bitchy, stressed, put out, etc. EVERY one of them…facial expressions, body language, interaction distancing, etc. was NOT excited about being out in public with their ‘special guy’…lol…

    my impression was that the average for the group (the greatest number) was about 4-5…but this was mostly due to the great amount of FAT…many of the girls would have been in the 6-7 range, but weren’t bcz of the fat…

    lots of girls were in their couple/trio shopping groups…lots of sun dresses and short shorts…and some of them should NOT have been…lol…but mostly these girls were in the 6-7 range, with one or two 8s…

    introspective observations – i am no longer ‘thirsty’…lol… out of the thousands of women there, i only would have considered about a couple dozen or so to be worthy of my time/effort, and most of those were high school/college age…although one (only ONE!…) woman really pinged my ‘lets make a baby’ genetic dna…lol…a blonde/blue mid-thirtys mom with 2 small and a beta hubby with the baby cart in tow…she was 15 pounds of baby fat too much, with a short ‘mom-do’ and no tits, but she really pinged my baby-making dna…lol…she would have been an 8 on her best day ever, but it didn’t matter…lol…she must have been a perfect genetic match bcz all the other women were mostly background noise…although there was that trio of real jailbait at a department store counter, but only 2 of those were pushing 8-9…lol…and i knew i had TRULY changed my attitude to completely red pill when i seriously considered opening them for a foursome…lol…

    i attribute my lack of thirst to ONE thing…an abundance of options…lol…this leads to gettin’ laid on the reg…WITH the expectation/reality of whenever i want, and if not at home, it’s an easy trip to the [grocery store/mall/city park/beach/bookstore/coffee shop] to get some…lol…literally almost everywhere…lol…that sack-drained existence leads to a choosiness that i would have never thought possible even two years ago, but NOW is just my new normal…lol…and i was getting plenty of IOIs in the BIG MALL…lol…i even got the ‘surprised’ ‘you want ME?’ hamster reaction when she saw i was checking her out…and then the return IOIs from her…lol…i had to leave FAST…lol…my dna was startin’ to perk…lol…

    and just so anyone reading this thinks i’m a natural…uh…NO…lol…i was a ‘spergy’ super-beta, white-knighting man-boob, that championed feminism…([spits]…lol) until i HAD to get some game to avoid a VERY bad divorce (and it was CLOSE, even with getting some game…) that was inevitable…as in freight-train of DOOM on the track to HELL inevitable…now?…not so much…lol…and if i can do it, ANYBODY can do it…IF you put in the WORK…

    so, damn you, CH… for opening my eyes…lol…and THANK YOU…for opening my eyes…lol…

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    • Are you getting side action in the marriage, tho

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    • on August 10, 2014 at 5:53 pm gunslingergregi

      i noticed that none, and i mean NONE, of the women that
      i saw with their betas in tow looked happy…they looked cranky,
      bitchy, stressed, put out, etc. EVERY one of them…facial expressions,
      body language, interaction distancing, etc. was NOT excited about being out
      in public with their ‘special guy’…lol…i noticed that none, and i mean NONE,
      of the women that i saw with their betas in tow looked happy…they looked cranky,
      bitchy, stressed, put out, etc. EVERY one of them…facial expressions, body language,
      interaction distancing, etc. was NOT excited about being out in public with their
      ‘special guy’…lol…”””””””””””’

      yea its nice to take a new bitch out
      took one out today i have never taken anywhere but known a while
      she ain’t seen her mom in two years but had to go home so she could tell
      her mom i was taking her to amusement park
      called me like 15 times asking if i was really taking her
      she basically couldn’t believe it
      i was like yea i’m serious she like what time multiple times
      like she won the lottery or some shit she was nervous as fuck
      at the park i have her sit on my lap and her pussy is on fire
      like burnin the fuck up lol
      had to bust on her a little he he he
      but yea she got in on my other girls season pass lol for free
      then i bought vip tickets for rides and at end i told her sell last two
      and that paid for the other vips we used so free trip
      that was pretty awesome really could make a living doing that shit
      this bitch thanked me like 300 times for taking her with me
      wants to stay night tonight
      i may let her
      but yea most couples it does look somewhat dreary

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 6:23 pm gunslingergregi

        pretty cool you can make that big of an impact on a chicks life with one gesture
        I think I am really becoming a legend
        wild shit

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 6:26 pm gunslingergregi

        and she tattin my name on her neck for the fuck of it
        bitches really are herd animals

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  39. Heartiste,
    Man when are you gonna release a bull shut free non Professor talk compendium of just lines, routines, negs, compliance tests and all other merciless but solid game techniques to apply in the field. I don’t want to be a Professor just a hustler out on the street using the best tactics possible to hunt poon. You’re material is some of the best- why don’t you make a book of war tactics? There’s to much half ass junk on the market now- readers deserve better.

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  40. What is considered beautiful are features that are average, ie. not outliers. It has been demonstrated that morphing a picture of a supermodel with another woman results in a better looking woman. Whites in America and Europe are far more interbred than blacks in Africa. Look at old pictures of whites from the early 1900s. Very obvious Irish, German, Italian, etc. features. Europe had nation states that conquered one another, Africa had small regional tribes. Most of the blacks in America are from West Africa and have stereotypical West African features. East Africans look much different.

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  41. […] It seems there are still a few hermits and delusional freaks who think beauty is in the eye of the beholder and every beholder is different so, following the logic of this platitude, anyone can be beautiful if they immerse themselves in enough…  […]

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  42. OT: Tinder update

    I’m up to about 220 matches in about 12 days. No indiscriminate swipes. 80% hotties.

    Here’s my issue: I’d have to quit my job to actually catch up with all the women who message me first (About 60-70 of the 220 have initiated the messaging).

    There’s no way I can keep on top of all the number exchanges and potential dates, so I’m finding myself ONLY catching up with the ones who go out of their way to chase/ set up dates. This narrows it right down to a manageable 5 or 6 per week.

    I’m an above averaging looking guy (early 30s) with decent social skills but I hate club/group environments and find excessive socializing exhausting. I seem to have found my niche with Tinder – it’s almost entirely looks based followed by witty text banter (I’m great at that) and then usually a one-on-one meet and greet, followed by, in some cases, sex. No approaching. No group socializing. No dancing or extrovert behaviour required. It couldn’t be more tailor-made for someone like me.

    Is this how dating feels for hot women in their prime years? Not replying to 85% of their options because they just have so many? Not having to do anything they don’t want to?

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    • Make that ignoring 99% of their options and not having to do anything other than show up and breathe and you got it.

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    • Meaner, step back from the trees and take a gander at the forest. You are describing just about a complete breakdown of all human socialization.

      And you are also describing a “Big Man R001z” environment within which handsome witty Alphas can accelerate away from the rest of the pack like never before.

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    • [LIFO’ed] This is awesome for dudes like me and you, but UTTERLY DISASTROUS for the species as a whole. We are going to get exponentially more “structural incest” than we have ever seen before. Be scared. BE VERY VERY SCARED.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 3:21 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      When there are too many women who want you, go for fresher, younger, hotter. Then be even more of a dick about how much effort you put into them. The only reason that prevents me from going down the Tinder route is that I want to slay my own demons and get desensitized to feeling random meets as awkward(such as approaching). I pussy footed around it my whole life(by maneuvering my social circle to introduce me to girls instead of just approaching) and I don’t want to do it with Tinder now.

      And yes, that’s how girls feel like. Just look at the screens of cute girls when they login on FB. If they do the smallest bit of attention whoring, they’ll have dozens of likes, comments and messages.

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  43. After seeing those composites, I have just one question:

    WHERE DA WHAAYT WIMMENS AT?

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    • Father Eliot, are you hearing confessions this morning?

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      • Only my own, Brother Thwack… only my own. 😉

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      • Well too bad; you’re the only one who can help:

        I find myself filled with shame; I hit on a blind white girl the other day.

        I don’t know what came over me, it just slipped out…

        This can’t be right. What should I do?

        Please help.

        Thanks.

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      • That’s okay, kid… this is why God, in His great wisdom, gave your ilk a certain (ahem)… shall we say, redolence?

        It was so blind people could hate y’all too.

        LZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLOZLZOZLOZLOZLOZL

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      • He gave us something else to help the blind girls recognize us too

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      • Without even clicking on the link, let me take a wild guess.

        “Muh Dik”.

        (((shakin’ mah haid))

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      • Thwack,

        the moment you said to the blind girl; ” Can I axe you a question?”

        she knew you were black.

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  44. hey guys , have you checked those “dear abby” articles in yahoo?? on which people ask for advice and someone called abby answers back? check the answers she give to fat women. those are awesome. http://uexpress.com/dearabby/2014/8/10/0/overweight-womans-bikini-top-gets-harsh

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    • When I’m home, I have a bikini top and shorts I prefer to wear. This is because I don’t like being covered up like it was in the 1950s, and I feel good when my curves are properly accentuated.

      Properly accentuated…

      Sigh… I remember when accuracy of language used to count for something. 😦

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    • I can’t believe Dear Abby actually called her out on the actual problem, her obesity. Good for Dear Abby!

      I think older men and women (think seniors) are more or less red pill, so to speak. They call it like they see it and aren’t interested in blowing smoke.

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  45. Anyone notice that only the 6.5 and up girls are even remotely okay looking. The rest just look plain ugly.

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  46. I’d also say that 41 yr old 9.5 is way hotter than all the composites below 8.5.

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  47. I’ve come to the conclusion that beauty is the result of civilization. The reason we see white women as the standard in beauty across the world, is because the places they hail from (North America, Europe) have had the most advanced civilizations in recent history.

    Places like Asia, Africa and South America don’t have as many pretty women. The reason has to do with the harsh environments that requires that you have manlier traits in order to survive and pass on your genes. Anyone notice how the men are more attractive than the women? You see it even in America,in its most harshest places as Heartiste once observed:

    “On my occasional forays into the ghetto, I recurrently note just how beastly the local girls look. Huge jaws and brows that could sprout Wolverine claws when roused to anger. Maybe this is the end result of a mating market where generations of women have spread for the most violent, thuggish men in the hood…Are redneck girls getting manlier also?” (ED. Yes they are and always were)

    Neoteny and Neotenic traits like hairlessness, small jaws, and low browridges are the features that make women attractive. But these traits make them unfit to survive a wild enviroment like jungles or the African Savanah. Western civilization with its advanced technology is the cradle that protects soft baby-like genes from being pushed out by hard manly genes. Civilization creates more abundance of beauty.

    BTW one corollary to this abundance of created beauty is that it creates an abundance of Betas at the same time. Thats why you see so many handsome men in Sweden, and soft Scalzis and baby-faced David Futrelles in America.

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    • Really? Because I was under the impression that Sweden was feminist/mangina central.

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      • You are right. Sweden is full of manginas…they just happen to be good-looking manginas and not slovenly like David Futrelle. Don’t mistake Nordic good looks in northern European men for Alphaness.

        There are two kinds of good looking men. You have Lebron James good looking: tall, low body fat/high muscle, high brow ridge, broad shoulders and frame, and in peak physical condition. On the other hand is the archetypal male underwear model that’s everywhere in advertising and fashion: fine, delicate facial features, slight frame, and a pale complexion.

        The Lebron type males are the ones you have to watch out for when your girlfriend is ovulating. You have a lot less to fear with the model. Good looks in men are one of many traits women look for in males. For men, looks are everything. Women on the other hand have no problem passing on a good looking man, especially with no game.

        There’s one other thing about good-looking guys most people aren’t aware of; they live in the bubble, where strangers treat them better than the average person because of their looks (See 30 Rock: The Bubble). Over time this treatment make them soft, beta-like and complacent.

        I’ve seen this happen with good-looking friends of mine. I also read about it with respect to Roosh’s friend Henrik. Henrik was Roosh’s good looking Danish roomate, who he met while living in Brasil. They eventually had a falling out because Roosh’s tried to burst the bubble. His red pill beliefs clashed Henriks feminist blue pill learnings.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 3:15 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      Or maybe Northern European men didn’t afford to have children with more than a girl due to how harsh the winters were without much technology so only prettier girls reproduced there since polygamy wasn’t much of an option.

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  48. “It could be bias.”

    Yes, I agree with this statement. You are Caucasian, so it would make sense for you to have a preference for Caucasian women or to imagine that the pinnacle of beauty would be what you assume is a European look. That is fine if that is your personal taste.

    But I think that if all women looked the same, it would be boring. One of the fascinating things about beauty is that women from all over the world can look so different and still exhibit beauty.

    I think this woman is beautiful:

    just as i think these women are beautiful:

    http://www.lasenegalaise.com/thumbnail.php?src=photos/pictures/1010928298228922222.jpg&w=735&zc=1

    They all look different and you may have your preference for a certain look, but there is no way you can say as differently as they look that any of them aren’t beautiful.

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    • on August 10, 2014 at 4:05 pm braveagnosticg

      Why the African make her hair straight like the Asian and American?

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    • Gong Li was sexy in her youth. Her complexion was luminous and relatively pale–which some say is characteristic of Shandong women. Her facial features more resemble Frida Gustavsson’s (tall pretty Swedish model) than do the typical Chinese woman’s. Famous Chinese actresses and models (Zhang Ziyi, Liu Wen) almost always have brighter skin than the average Chinese. That may be true of Swedish models too, mutatis mutandis, BUT, if the question is what do men find attractive, or what do women want to emulate, the smart money is on bright, fair skin.

      It WOULD be boring if all women looked the same. That’s why God gave us redheads.

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      • on August 10, 2014 at 8:31 pm Mean Mr. Mustard.

        “It WOULD be boring if all women looked the same. That’s why God gave us redheads.”

        Correction. The Devil gave us redheads.

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    • @ Greg Eliot,

      I am not a fellow. I am young woman. I am not going to get into a debate with you about your personal taste. I happen to think the woman’s hair looks beautiful. It’s my opinion that African-American women look better with natural hair. That’s not going to change just because you’re being rude in your comments and referring to African-Americans using condescending words.

      I love hair like this: (http://brigidturner.com/website/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/GOOD-8-2.jpg)

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      • You don’t seem to take exception when white folks are referred to in rude terms by your ilk, here at the chateau…

        And like the rest of ’em, you seem to slough off the point that any alleged rude terms I use in reply to those posts are merely paying back in coin of the realm, so that others of my ilk can take heart that there is at least one white guy who don’t take the Cathedral cogdissery and n1663r-guff lying down.

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      • I don’t believe that Neecy has ever said anything negative about white people in general. I never heard her call them any type of slurs, I’ve never heard her imply they were inferior in any way. The only thing I’ve heard her say was that some of the individual white men on this forum were losers and that some white women were attracted to black athletes more or less. and with some of the stuff that was said about her and other WOC is understandable that she would feel that way and say some of those things. She said she is dating a wm any way. The things said by her or the other minority of POC on here are nowhere near the vicious comment you and others have made about POC.

        I certainly haven’t said anything negative about white people on here. Completely the opposite. You and “your ilk” are the ones that are being rude and generalizing, stereotyping and portraying other races as inferior. So I’m not even sure where you’re going with your comment.

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      • @ Greg Eliot,

        Nothing wrong with being proud of what you are, Greg. You’re proud to be European, you’re proud of your identify as a white man, I get it. Fine. I don’t think anyone here has said anything against that.

        But why do you have to put others down to be proud of what you are? Just like you’re proud of what you are, other people are proud of what they are. That’s all I’m saying.

        But again, I don’t see anything changing. If you want to use rude language and demean Black people, especially Black women, you’re going to do that. I’m not sure what you get out of it, but if that’s what you’re going to do, that’s what you’re going to do.

        I don’t hate any group of people, including white people and I don’t think any human being is superior to another and perhaps that’s just something that I guess some people on here do not agree with. I like making friends and I like getting to know people and I’m sure all things considered, underneath the prejudice I’ll bet there are some nice people here. But, oh well.

        Carry on…

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      • :Look, I know you blacks stick together through thick and thin, and when one of you lies, the rest of you swear to it.

        But just recently she herself went on a diatribe about how ALL white people are guilty of exploiting and harming coloured folks. The exact quote she used I blockquoted in one of my replies on a recent thread.

        So don’t go playing the sock puppet apologist for your sistuh… leastwise, not if you want to retain a crumb of credibility, much of which already lost due to your aforementioned sock puppetting.

        In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if you were Neecy herself.

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 7:04 pm Hammer of Love

        ” The only thing I’ve heard her say was that some of the individual white men on this forum were losers and that some white women were attracted to black athletes more or less. ”

        Have you ever heard Neecy say, that some of the individual black men on this forum were losers and that some black women were attracted to white athletes more or less ??

        No ?? I didn’t think so. Seems to be a one-way racist streak on her part. Case closed.

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      • @ Hammer of Love,

        “Have you ever heard Neecy say, that some of the individual black men on this forum were losers.”

        I think that only Black man on this forum is Thwack.

        “some black women were attracted to white athletes more or less ??”

        Neecy said that she is dating a white man and she said she dated athletes in college.

        @ Greg Eliot,

        I am not Neecy. I did not see that quote, perhaps saying SOME white people exploit and harm people of color would have been more appropriate, but even so I have never heard Neecy attack white people by saying they were inferior, ugly or referring to their skin color in demeaning terms. You have done that to Black people, however.

        At the end of the day, Neecy and some of the other Black posters on here may criticize the racist behavior of some white people, but I have yet to see Neecy, Nicole or any other non-white poster declare that white people are inferior or mock their appearance or any thing like that.

        Be proud of who you are fine, but don’t be mean to other people. There was no need for the attacks on Neecy or the other Black posters. Besides, Neecy CLEARLY doesn’t hate white people, she dates white men, even if she criticizes the racist behavior of SOME of the white “men” on this forum, she obviously still has enough common sense and respect not to rule out ALL white men just because of some ignorants on here. People are individuals.

        If she hated white men why would she be in a relationship with one? I’m not just talking about a sexual relationship, that is kept hidden like a perverted secret, but a real, open, healthy relationship with a man who is white. Why would she give her time, energy and body to a white man if she hated them all? That’s ridiculous.

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    • on August 10, 2014 at 5:25 pm Hammer of Love

      Aren’t these photos, crimes against humanity ?

      I will now go burn my eyes out.

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    • they should really stop making bikinis in those sizes

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    • I almost wouldn’t mind the weight if it was at least smooth under the skin (you know, like fat people in cartoons).

      These women look like water balloons filled to capacity with cottage cheese.

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    • “Often attributed to the beauty blogger Gabi Gregg, who now has her own line of plus-sized swimwear, #Fatkini and other hashtags like #losehatenotweight are becoming mico-communities of women who are sharing their stories and their selfies with the world.”

      More like macro-communities. Also, this is like betas starting a campaign called #niceguysrsexy. Good luck with the war on reality.

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      • on August 11, 2014 at 7:42 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        ‘Nice guys’ make me sick and I don’t even have to fuck them. I can only imagine the gut level revulsion women must feel towards these men, probably akin to the disgust fatties instill in me. Funny enough, a few days ago I was bored and made a fake Tinder account to see what guys say to girls there and it was sad. The vast majority of them asked exactly the same question, when they weren’t horndogs that couldn’t control their hardons. What’s awkward is that I found myself shit testing them naturally so I think women do it simply because they’re the ones being pursued and having the ability to choose. My takeaway from this experiment is that a lot of guys not only have no game, but are rather boring too when they try to talk to women. I have to say that it helped my confidence to see how weak the competition is. lol

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  49. on August 10, 2014 at 6:22 pm Finnegan Von Kleinenschlaffel

    Beauty is completely subjective, even if culture or genetics or whatever impels men to desire a certain standard.

    There’s no divine or natural law deigning objectivity in that realm.

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    • Actually the argument that Plato puts forward to explain the notion of beauty is all about dwelling with god. Beauty, in the final analysis, is evidence of the divine or divinity.

      The evidence for it in DNA more than enough to back up the metaphysical philosophical argument. Beauty is embedded in our code.

      Are you an ugly kike?

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    • Some men might have a fetish for the ugly. Some men might lust after fatty. But beauty most certainly does exist and it’s manifestation in the human form is nearly universal. Killing v Murder is much less easy to identify ethically than Ugly v Beautiful is aesthetically.

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  50. Evolution of conservative (K-strategy, Red Pill) and liberal (r-strategy, Blue Pill) worldviews: http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2081273

    Bill Whittle explains in video commenting on book described in article:

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    • That article ties together several longstanding CH themes. Though I don’t agree with some of the examples, such as “the crop surpluses of the Medieval Warming Period produc[ed] the Dark Ages”. The Little Ice Age, the Hundred Years’ War, and the Black Death were not part of some r-selected/liberal/dysgenic reaction to an overabundance of resources.

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 3:12 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I find it farcical Bill Whittle believes that blacks and whites have equal innate IQs, but he knows what r/K selection theory is. lol

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  51. ​……….
    LR: Girl Picked Up Off Random NYC Street and Fucked

    http://the-underground-player.com/blog/2014/08/06/lr-girl-picked-random-nyc-street-and-fucked

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    • just saying she was obviously impaired, which is a convenient excuse for her, and him. still give him props for not messin up.

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  52. ​……….
    LR: Girl Picked Up Off Random NYC Street and Fucked (pic + audio)

    the-underground-player. com/blog/2014/08/06/lr-girl-picked-random-nyc-street-and-fucked

    Remove the space in .com to view the URL

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  53. on August 11, 2014 at 3:11 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    The composites by age aren’t sound because composites also average out wrinkles.

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  54. Off-topic:
    http://m.tickld.com/x/next-time-someone-says-women-arent-victims-of-harassment-show-them

    …because waiting for 24 hours before getting an abortion somehow translates to women’s bodies being a public property.

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  55. I only date and bang Asian girls now. There is a certain type of Asian girl…usually the hot type….who acts like this. The problem as this guy points out to her is that most Asian guys just pander to her princess-like behaviours and never call them out on their bullshit.

    I think he confronted her directly and that freaked her out…reminds me a bit of my crazy ex gf who was so thin-skinned she couldn’t take any criticism or push-back at all. She hates me because I told her to “fuck off” after she tried to make nice and LJBF me after our break up….

    This isn’t totally representative of Asian girls…but it is representative of a certain type of Asian girl…the hotter entitled type who has never had someone call her out. The way this dude called her out is classic…he just goes after her…

    His explanation after is pretty much on the money in my experience. I have found however if you stand up to this type…they do respect you and sometimes even bang you…

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    • on August 11, 2014 at 7:45 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I don’t understand how people can get away with being so rude to others over there. No matter how hot you are as a girl, if you reject guys in this socially uncalibrated way, everyone will think you’re a cunt here. Sure, you will get harsh rejections if you say dumbass things to girls, but if you just say hi to them and ask them how has their day been…

      This puzzles me in the same way that bratty children being allowed in restaurants there puzzles me. Here you’d probably be asked to leave if your child was an ill raised, foul mouthed, piece of shit.

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      • @Pijama The reason the “get away with it” is because people here are afraid of confrontation on a one-on-one level. My ex gf behaved terribly–not showing up for events she helped me plan, breaking up two days before my birthday…prompting all sorts of arguments, then when I reacted and told her off…she would post about it on Facebook generating gossip and prompting friends to hate me.

        No one says anything…white knights defend this and this often scares guys off from having the kind of confrontation that dude had—and he’s Asian which is probably why her reaction is so strong.

        There’s no accountability and so these spoiled little brats get away with it. Imagine: If you’re pretty and young, you get a pass….these girls never grow up and when you suddenly hit 36 and are doing this…not so attractive. You end up with betas, white knights or total losers.

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      • In places where men are more feminized and socially dependent, for a woman to be kind and polite is a DLV. If a woman isn’t a bitch or refrains from punishing men for crossing her, men take it as a signal that she hates herself, and that he can take advantage of her, even if this is not true and she’s just polite.

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      • No, Nicole, being pleasant demonstrates *higher* value. One hundred percent of the time, in all civilized cultures. No man is attracted to bitchiness, *ever*.

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      • @Kyo absolutely right. This is why it is so hard to accept game advice from women. What they say and what they actually feel and do are often quite different.

        Look and listen to that girl in the video I posted. Is she attractive? Maybe to someone who’s sense of self is so warped that they feel a need to “win over” the girl. That is immediately pedestalizing.

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      • Look, this is my and most women’s actual life experience. None of us, especially those of us who are not 8-10’s gets any credit for being a kind person. We can be somewhat receptive, but not actually nice. We have to behave like sex is some dirty thing that we do for men, but hate ourselves for doing it, or you take us for granted.

        Only Alpha males like actually pleasant, submissive women. Betas (most guys most women will end up marrying) prefer bitches.

        When betas get ahold of a submissive woman who isn’t manipulating him, they get bored or devalue her.

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  56. on August 11, 2014 at 7:30 am alcestiseshtemoa

    What some jet black sub-Saharan Black African people consider “light-skinned” isn’t really light-skinned if one utilizes a global spectrum. From fair white, to olive-skinned, to yellow-skinned, to brown-skinned, to black-skinned, most mixed-raced (Mulatta) women such as Halle Berry, or Lou Klum, tend to be quite brown (with yellow undertones) for most people on the planet. Sure, they’re fair compared to Naomi Campbell, or Oluchi Onweagba, but compared to the average White and Asian woman, they’re slightly brownish (with yellow undertones). Yellow-brown is just a medium skin tone for most people.

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    • alcestiseshtemoa

      What some jet black sub-Saharan Black African people consider “light-skinned” isn’t really light-skinned if one utilizes a global spectrum.
      ————————————————————————————————

      There is no such thing as a “jet black sub-Saharan Black African”; those people are brown.

      The “jet black” people in Africa are north of the equator

      `

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      • on August 12, 2014 at 11:42 am alcestiseshtemoa

        Jet black is slang for “very dark brown-skinned”. Like, extremely dark brown color. Black people tend to range between medium brown, dark brown and very dark brown (aka jet black).

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  57. The perfect white race:

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  58. Beauty doesn’t appear to be subjective. You are going at it wrong.

    http://documentaryaddict.com/Why+Beauty+Matters-542-doc.html

    For your consideration.

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    • Greg Eliot has entered the building.

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      • Thwack, instead of running this inane cogdissery meant to annoy, why don’t you target some true sock puppeting from the self-admitted, like this most recent tell from Kim Pop/Peanut?

        Is that merely because he/she is obviously negro… or because perhaps it’s YOU yourself… or Neecy… or Nicole?

        LZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOLZOLZOLZOLZOZLZOL

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      • Mike Brown of Ferguson lays dead, in the ghetto.

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      • BTW, I doubt “Peanut” is any kind of sock puppet. I know her from a blog called “Abagond”; a bunch of black people, mainly black females, and their SIMP black male blog owner who operate a 24 hour black “pep rally” for all things black/African…

        Did they delete my comments, questions, call me white…?

        You bet,

        thats how I wound up here.

        Ni66ers wanna change everything but themselves, thats why I hate them.

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      • You have to pay closer attention, thwack… on this very thread Peanut admitted to posting as Kim Pop, a la

        Also I know on this blog “looks,” seem to be all that matters, but the woman that I posted also does a lot of charity work and from what I understand is a very kind and caring lady.

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  59. What about hot or not for men? Which type of guys scored the highest?

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    • on August 12, 2014 at 7:09 pm Hammer of Love

      Don’t you read these columns ? Looks don’t apply in the same way for men, as they do for women. Unless you’re a rump rider, Mr. cool.

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  60. “In the above Miss Universe composites, the representative African woman is not that much darker than the non-African women.”

    But in reality, the African miss universe contestants were nowhere near that light. As is the case for all the others. The guy who put this together drastically lightened all of them.

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  61. Before the comments are closed, I would also just like to say that “splooge” seems partially retarded. I know bindis can have terrible english, but this little autist has a special degree of illiteracy.

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