The Myopia Of IQ Fetishism

Excessive focus on IQ like that found in certain HBD quarters is dangerous for the reason that it will blind one to group differences in other important human characteristics.

Before hackles rise, this post is not an apologia for ignoring mean and individual IQ differences. IQ matters, arguably matters more than anything else, in big and small and strange ways. You will hardly find a soul who’d wish to possess fewer IQ points than more IQ points.

But IQ isn’t the whole story. There are, for instance, group differences in personality, temperament, proclivity to violence, trustworthiness, and what I’ll call General Interactive Behavioral Socialization (GIBS…medat).

That last mouthful is just a fancy way of describing how people socialize and behave when they aren’t constrained by etiquette or coerced by authority figures to act otherwise. A roomful of white people will organically form a particular social dynamic that is quite different than that formed by a roomful of black people, even controlling for IQ. Anyone who isn’t a lying liar and has not spent a lifetime in a cave knows this intuitively. High school cafeterias are usually the first real world laboratory where these truths about group social behavior and self-segregation become incontestably apparent. We then spend the rest of our lives trying to forget the patterns we noticed in high school.

Proof of group differences in personality and behavior can be found in science, if you’re the sort to mistrust your lying eyes. Chinese and White infants exhibit stark personality differences. In school, black students behave wildly different from white students, even within the same classroom where instruction and teacher demands are similarly accorded.

IQ fetishism can lead the sperg type to sputter futilely when confronted by a trollish leftoid provocateur who disingenuously (or racially) advocates for the importation of millions of Northeast Asians with their average 105 IQs into historically White countries with their average 100 IQs. If IQ is your be all-end all, you won’t have a defense against that line of argument. Now, if I *had* to choose at gunpoint, I’d rather America be flooded with a billion Chinese than a billion Africans, but this doesn’t mean that a billion Chinese, however efficient they are at building high-tech metropolises, won’t utterly destroy America as she used to be known and change it into something resembling China 2.

IQ similarity notwithstanding to the contrary, the Chinese people as a group are markedly different in temperament and personality than White European people as a group. If you value diversity of nations, you would be against turning America into China 2. No offense to the Chinese, but I’d rather they enjoy the full flowering of their Chinese-ness in their own country.

Given the obvious implications above, you would think that normally smart bloggers would avoid straying into territory that fetishizes IQ to the detriment of any other consideration. Commenting about enclaves for the intelligent, PA wrote,

Any solution short of dejure racial segregation will be harmful to whites. But I understand, baby steps toward dismantling the Civil Rights monstrosity we’re living under now.

A white person with 90 IQ is very different from a 90-IQ back in temperament, attitude toward sex and family, future time orientation, taste in music, and a myriad other things.

Lower-SES whites also need informal social contact with higher SES whites for aspirational reasons and guidance. Higher class whites also benefit from communal ties with blue collar whites–the malign downstream effect of the upper class white bubble is apparent in nearly every subject of discussion here.

This sensible appreciation of race differences beyond the IQ factor was met with scorn by the NYC-residing proprietor.

A 90-IQ white is a lot more like a 90-IQ black than he or she is like a 115-IQ white.

And 90-IQ whites are pretty much identical to 90-IQ Mestizo Hispanics.

A statement like this betrays a lifetime devoted to shutting oneself into a video gaming room or an exclusive summer camp. I don’t know if he’s lived in downscale white or black neighborhoods — if he claims he has and still makes statements like this perhaps he should be called “Liar of the Blogosphere” — but for those who have the thing you notice almost before you notice if it’s raining outside is how differently “prole” whites behave from ghetto or even middle class blacks. A group of 90 IQ whites won’t be scintillating company to a 115 IQ spiteful ingrate, and they’ll have some annoying habits of mind and banal cultural pleasures, but they will never be mistaken for a group of 90 IQ blacks. Not by anyone with a modicum of personal integrity. The difference in vibe and social experience, not to mention volume, will feel like a slap across the face.

IQ fetishism, in case you couldn’t previously tell, happens to be quite frequently the province of HBDers with an axe to grind against… mmm, how shall we say… heathen whites. The acidic spite and nursed lifelong hatred waft like a cloud of smog from a Shanghai knock-off factory.

SWPLs and their sympatico ethnies don’t much care for flyover whites, but if their hands were forced you can bet Fuckerberg’s bankroll that they’d choose to live in a neighborhood of predominately 90 IQ whites than in a hood of predominately 90 IQ blacks. The hatred they feel for “the wrong kind of white people” — as opposed to the indifference and pity and paternalism they feel toward their non-white pawns — is better explained by that ageless aphorism “There but for the grace of God go I”. As kissing cousins, the massed numbers of prole whites are the nearest threat to the pretentious SWPL’s cultivated sense of aristocratic superiority.

In related shivs, I wonder if LotB is aware that the cast of Jersey Shore are prepped to exaggerate their prole behavior to extremes? It’s like he actually believes reality TV is reality. Too funny!





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  1. […] The Myopia Of IQ Fetishism […]

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    • lzlozozlzlozlz

      da GBFM has a 14″ IQ which hath been hidden in my DNAsz for millennia and which is now oft hidden in your girfleindsz coochez lzlzlzoozlzolzozolzozol

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    • Something that most Americans tend to forget (or I believe almost are never taught) is that there is a purposeful importation of highly qualified immigrants. (Like doctors, physics geniuses, people with doctorates.)
      It’s being done because in the US, there is a very serious educational problem. Universities may be good, but how many teachers and students are born Americans, or even naturalized? If you have ever studied abroad, you will feel the difference, (in developed countries, and even developing ones).
      Honestly, the current situation of the US is difficult, because it makes its money from selling ideas (technology, royalties from stuff like movies, toys, patents). It’s not like we are manufacturing a lot, and think about it, who trades a ton of corn for a ton of electronics? If someone doesn’t keep coming up with new ideas, then this little game crashes down, and it will be quite ugly.
      Worse yet, some countries are developing quickly as well, imagine a china that doesn’t need to buy US tech and patents, but we need to buy Chinese goods… a complicated situation indeed.

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    • Of coruse, this doesnt appply to illegal immigration, which I will leave to others to debate.

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  2. on July 26, 2014 at 9:16 am Zombie Shane

    Anyone who has had children [and who knows their family well] can tell you that genes for almost everything can lay hidden in the family line for CENTURIES before they reassert themselves. When you see a child behave exactly like a great-aunt, or look exactly like a photo of a great-great-great-grandfather, then you start to realize the shocking, almost infinite supply of genetic information which can lay hidden in a person.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 9:20 am Zombie Shane

      At least in a White person. I am becoming convinced that Whites have high standard deviations [broad, flat bell curves] to almost every measurable statistic because only Whites adopted “1-Man/1-Woman”. When a race is trapped under “Big Man Rulez” – with a King Solomon or a Genghis Khan or an Emir of Kuwait having hundreds or thousands of wives – then you get structural incest in your family tree.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:23 am Zombie Shane

        And structural incest implies very sharp, pointy bell curves – like Dirac delta functions – with almost no deviation from average.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:26 am Zombie Shane

        If I’m correct, then probabilistically, it would not be all that “difficult” for a white man and a white woman, both with IQs of 90, to pop out a child with an IQ of 110. Whereas this would be virtually impossible for a black man and a black woman.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:28 am Zombie Shane

        And given the huge diversity of white genes for physical features, it is TRIVIALLY EASY for a white man and a white woman with brown hair and brown eyes to have children with auburn hair and green eyes or blond hair and blue eyes.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:31 am Zombie Shane

        Whereas the children of two gooks or armadillos will ALWAYS be diarrhea-colored, and the children of two chimpanzees will ALWAYS be melena-colored – no deviation whatsoever.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:33 am Zombie Shane

        HIGH STANDARD DEVIATION = broad, flat ball curves with many outliers and huge diversity

        LOW STANDARD DEVIATION = sharp, pointy “dirac delta function” bell curves, with little or no diversity

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:38 am Zombie Shane

        LIFO’ed, but Whites and Whites alone are the only truly DIVERSE race.

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      • Zombie Shane

        And given the huge diversity of white genes for physical features,
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        White people are the least genetically diverse people on the planet; they occupy the shallow end of the gene pool . Their phenotype is the result of a loss of information NOT an addition.

        This is why it is impossible for two white people to produce a child darker than themselves.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:49 am Zombie Shane

        Chimpanzees, Armadillos, Gooks, Cow-worshipers: Always BLACK eyes and BLACK hair.

        Whites: Black, brown, sandy, strawberry, auburn, red, orange, or blond hair, and black, brown, light yellowish brown, green, or blue eyes.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:51 am Zombie Shane

        Chimpanzees, Armadillos, Gooks, Cow-worshipers: ZERO DEVIATION FROM AVERAGE. ZERO DIVERSITY.

        Whites: Nearly infinite deviation and nearly infinite diversity.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:53 am Zombie Shane

        Li’l Mordecai Thwackowitz, stick to the Talmudic Frankfurt School gibberish, and leave the statistical analysis to the folks who actually know what they’re talking about.

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      • “Their phenotype is the result of a loss of information NOT an addition.”

        LOL thwack making things up again. Come back when you belong to a race that was able to invent the wheel.

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      • Quest For Fire

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 10:47 am Zombie Shane

        Thwack is a jew pretending to be a chimpanzee.

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      • White people are the least genetically diverse people on the planet;

        Shane already gave the royal Up Yours to this assertion… heh, on hair color and texture alone, let along the myriad other physical proofs AND social behaviors.

        It’s statements like this that betray thwack to be either a piss-poor cogdis troll…

        OR (more likely) a mischling with enough brains from the cream in the coffee side of his family to learn just enough Afrocentrism to wind up totally stupid.

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      • Thwack, you do realize that the greater African genetic diversity is due to the fact that you have much more junk DNA than Europeans do?

        Now where does junk DNA come from? One source is viral infections. Africa is loaded with strange tropical diseases.

        IOW, Africans are more closely related to viruses than Europeans are.

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      • “IOW, Africans are more closely related to viruses than Europeans are.”

        Ok I laughed.

        Seriously though, is Africa more loaded with viruses than other tropical areas i.e. the Americas, and southeast asia? They said the same in the A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones universe, where the darkie continent is full of diseases.

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      • Seriously though, is Africa more loaded with viruses than other tropical areas i.e. the Americas, and southeast asia? They said the same in the A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones universe, where the darkie continent is full of diseases.

        It seems like it, since the Latin American Indians and Australian aboriginals tended to die from imported diseases just as much as the North American Indians did. Based upon the immune systems of an area’s natives, it looks like Africa has the most diseases, followed by Eurasia, then everyone else.

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      • The black founding population of little more than 500,000 in the US strongly suggests an incestuous structure. The teen pregnancy rate among Sheboons further suggests the high rate of parent child/avuncular/ sibling molestation.

        Sick gibbons.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 7:16 pm Zombie Shane

        Director – LIFO’ed, but with “Big Man Rulez” and rampant illegitimacy in da ‘hood, it is entirely possibly that half-1st-cousins and even half-siblings could be making children together and never even realize that they were so closely related.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 7:46 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        ===which== is this Euro ethnicity which never had a Royal Family ruling from the top?

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      • @corvinus Exposure to disease strengthens the gene pool as it wipes out the weakest members.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 11:23 am Zombie Shane

        > “Euro ethnicity which never had a Royal Family ruling from the top?”

        I guess Hebrew Day School must gloss over all that stuff about Magna Carta and Self-Evident Truths.

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      • corvinus

        Thwack, you do realize that the greater African genetic diversity is due to the fact that you have much more junk DNA than Europeans do?
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        There is no such thing as “junk DNA”; you just think it is because you are on the level of a blue eyed devil.

        It may be extreme data compression far above and beyond your pattern recognition abilities.

        Here is Hendrix engaged in the transcription process; scroll to 2:47 for your so called “junk DNA”.

        *you’re welcome*

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      • This is triple true.

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      • Hendrix was a remarkable outlier, a perfect proto-PC icon to shove down the throats of future SWPLs for the sixties and all the vapid nostalgia that still goes with it…

        But a vastly overrated noise maker, for a generation where pyrotechnics impressed more than substance…

        Kinda like that movie where the zombies would look up at the sky and be mesmerized by the “sky flower” fireworks.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 8:22 am The Spirit Within

        Please define musical “substance”. And be sure to use the traditional lexicon used by trained musicians when you do so.

        I want to see how far the bullshit will spread.

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      • Greg Eliot

        But a vastly overrated noise maker, for a generation where pyrotechnics impressed more than substance…
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        Thats because most people could not comprehend Hendrix when he played for himself; hell, except for Mitch Mitchel, most musicians could not understand what he was doing or where he was going

        If you are a musician, you know you play differently for fellow musicians than for a Greg Eliot…

        We dumb things down so it is accessible; Hendrix did the same thing.

        Greg, you’ve reached an all time low. You do realize its not just Hendrix you are challenging?

        Clapton, Page, Trower, Townsend…

        Give it up man, you can’t win this fight; you got deep pockets and short arms.

        “The thing about Hendrix is you never knew what was coming next” — Jeff Beck

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      • There’s no accounting for taste, as they say..

        Many other guitarists may praise technical ability, but I’m more impressed with composition.

        If it makes you feel any better, I think Clapton’s overrated too.

        You guys can go ahead and play the Cathedral game of, well, giving guys like Muddy Waters and Sonny Boy WIlliamson and Chuck Berry credit for everything from Pet Sounds to Houses of the Holy to Tommy, but I don’t buy it.

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  3. A white with an 85 IQ looks like a retard. A black with an 85 IQ looks normal…for a black.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 12:25 pm Steve Johnson

      Want to see what black people would look like if there weren’t differences in skin color:

      http://imgur.com/0uyOA

      Yeah, think of that the next time some progressive fool says “I don’t see what skin color has to do with anything”.

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      • Steve Johnson

        Want to see what black people would look like if there weren’t differences in skin color:
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        Melanin is not just found in the skin; your eyes need it too.

        Want to see what white people would look like when their eyes are short on melanin?

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      • thwack argued that black people look the same as white people save for skin color. He was angry at the picture of black albinos that disproved this. He said that albinism effects more than just skin color.

        So if his theory is correct, then albinos of different races would be indistinguishable.

        Fail.

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      • So if his theory is correct, then albinos of different races would be indistinguishable.
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        They are indistinguishable to the Sun;

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      • “Fail” is often thwack’s modus operandi… ‘though he tries valiantly to slough it off with YouTube videos and odd does-not-follow sort of snark deflections.

        Still, he’s our luvable little scamp mascot, here at the chateau.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 1:44 pm backchecking

      Actually, a White IQ of 85 IS functionally retarded….

      They are relegated to jobs in the ‘caboose of the economy’ — being pulled along by those with IQ 115+

      &&&

      You have to chuckle at the college crowd opining on the attributes of the working dull.

      They’ve never, EVER had to get performance out of such souls. Such proles are mere abstractions. They are no longer even portrayed in film or TV.

      The closest I can remember was the fictional (Sicilian) limo driver for Banacek.
      In an earlier generation, such a role would have been for a Black… as in the Charlie Chan flicks.

      These can be both found on YouTube — with a plethora of DWL postings about the (outrageous) racism of the Charlie Chan detective-comedies. The modern kids have absolutely no conception about just how many truly dull Black Americans are out there.

      (Many now have government jobs — the ultimate gibsmedat. cf Detroilet, Camden, Philly, Akron, … and D.C.)

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 3:40 pm gunslingergregi

      what is with the new meme
      how many 85 iq people do you know?

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    • In the government building I work in they made an arrangement to hire some mentally retarded white janitors. I listen in on their conversations and they talk about exactly the same things that my black coworkers talk about: food, clothes, sports, celebrities etc. That means the blacks I work with probably have an IQ equal to a retarded white person. It’s no wonder they screw up on the job so much. I wonder how many white people stuck in low paying jobs are aware that the fifty thousand dollar a year government job they could have had was given to a low IQ black instead to meet some affirmative action quota.

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    • Bob Wallace is a total prole. He just said last week that very few people make over $150K, meaning his social circle is not even at that level.

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      • Half the wealth in the U.S. is concentrated in the the New York/Washington D.C. area. How did it get there? Stolen by the feds from the rest of the country. I have a ex-girlfriend who lives right outside D.C. and has a make-work job for the feds – $120,000 a year. Started at $100,000 and got a $10,000 raise every year. Glad to make a fool of you; it was easy.

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      • er… you’re the fool.

        ‘Half’ is not concentrated in NYC+DC. What about California? The oil boom?

        Also, you changed the subject, like the coward you are. You openly said ‘hardly anyone makes $150,000/year’ last week. That sentence revealed your prole-like mediocrity.

        You’re not very bright, are you?

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      • Countries go through three phases: agricultural, industrial, financial. We are in the financial/empire phase and therefore will collapse, just like every empire in the past. I suggest you prepare for this.

        And if you honestly think the working-class guys working in the oil fields are rich…you’re not very bright.

        Again, half the wealth in the country is concentrated in the New York/Washington D.C. area. Look it up.

        Knowledge beats your ad hominem attacks every time.

        And again, it’s easy to make a fool of you.

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      • And if you honestly think the working-class guys working in the oil fields are rich…

        The field owners are, you retard. The point is, the wealth stays in Texas and North Dakota.

        I am merely educating you that half of the wealth of the US is not concentrated in just NYC + DC (5% of the population combined). I could lower myself to your level (which would be a huge lowering) and simply state :

        “If you think the grunt staffers in DC and entry-level analysts in NYC are rich, you are not very bright”.

        But it is easier to expose your embarrassing stupidity with better facts.

        Plus, you said that you don’t personally know people who make over $150K. That means you are a prole, as also evidenced by your low-IQ commenting and cowardly subject-changing.

        You are both an economic prole, and low-IQ. No wonder you can’t even compete with black people.

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      • Damn fat fingered reply. Meant to say Charles Murray “Coming Apart” states top 1/2 one percent income clustered in just a few “Superzips” in NYC and DC. That’s it. Not even Boston, Chicago, LA count. Huge diff from 1960. Growth in Wall Street and Government (connected) super-concentrates those from Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Stanford in those two cities and just few zip codes in them. And yes few people make over $150K, that’s about upper five percent income IIRC.

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      • Bob Wallace and whiskey have outed themselves as the same person.

        I called out Bob Wallace for being unusually dumb, and that is confirmed now that we know he is whiskey (there is no shortage of people who will agree that whiskey is a an epic moron).

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    • This is actually factual.

      A black with an IQ that low is generally normal for his race (IQ is low for genetic reasons), whereas a white with such a low IQ tends to have organic problems (trisomy 21, various birth defects, etc.) so that the “performance” in daily life for the blacks is much higher at the extreme low ends of IQ, where the black may simply be on the normal but low end of his race’s spectrum, whereas for a white to have such low intellect something had to go wrong.

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    • Yes, are there studies on this? A mentally retarded Caucasian looks stereotypically retarded, and is usually unattractive and very asymmetrical features. They are often also physical disabled.
      A mentally retarded black man is often in great shape, physically, and often with very symmetrical features. I notice this in mug shot after mug shot.

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    • I am quite relieved to know that Bob Wallace is whiskey, as one dumbass is better than two.

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  4. But I don’t think LotB is actually an “IQ fetishist” in terms of his preferred policies for immigration, etc. His IQ snobbery seems mostly tangential to his political beliefs.

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    • If your political beliefs aren’t informed by your HBD knowledge, you’re doing it wrong.

      That said, the HBD community has had an unbecoming obsession with IQ for years. Not too surprising. Nerds don’t get no respect in real life so they come online to covertly whine that they were misled by their parents and teachers into expecting kudos and cuddles for mastering computers and calculus. The only surprising thing about this post is that it’s the first one from an HBDer to acknowledge that many of the commonplaces within the community are obviously wrong to the noticers.

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  5. on July 26, 2014 at 9:46 am Zombie Shane

    > “the nearest threat to… aristocratic superiority.”

    Heartiste – the elites are trying to create a Neo-Feudalistic society, with a “pyramidal” shaped social structure, just like India, with a tiny handful of very high IQ Brahmin elitists ruling over a vast sea of untouchable slaves.

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  6. on July 26, 2014 at 9:49 am Bango Tango

    How timely. Beware of Chinese prostitutes. I went to junior high and high school with the guy who was killed last week. Check out her mug shot. Yummy. http://www.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2014/07/21/matt-sheahan-identified-as-man-stabbed-to-death-at-sf-hotel

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    • Sorry to hear that, Bango.

      Ouch, that is one mean mug.

      I assume one wouldn’t show up to a prostitute without protection. And aside from condoms I mean pepper spray at least. There are gangs that lure in customers and rob them.

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      • Yeah. I didn’t really know him that well. He had always been an omega as far as I can remember so that was probably the deciding factor that led to his death. A dispute over payment was the most likely issue. She probably felt cheated in that she fucked an omega and then wasn’t compensated enough to justify the horrible deed of sex with an omega. I imagine to a woman that is just cause for homicide.

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      • Bango, the price would have been set by her in advance. So if it was an argument over payment, then it was him refusing to pay, or trying to pay less. Apparently that is common, customers trying to haggle. Which is really cheap.

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      • Poor The Socialist Within, someone said something mean about a race that isn’t the White race! That mustn’t be allowed! Only Whites must be hated, The Socialist Within has learned that from the teachers in school and from drooling over his teevee. Any day now the characters in the teevee shows will pat you on the head and call you their friend for lapping up the propaganda.

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    • By that wide-nostrilled schnozz and simian look in her eye, I’m guessing she ain’t all Chinese.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:13 pm The Spirit Within

        WhatEVER could you be referring to, you redundant hateful fuck.

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      • OK, Folks! Time again to play…

        CAN… YOU… SPOT… THE… IRONY!!!

        (raucous applause from the studio audience)

        Avaunt, thou flea… thou thimble… thou thread.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 4:55 pm The Spirit Within

        Your connection of a murderous Chinese prostitute with Judaistic facial features is exhibit ZZZ of the extreme, unflinching hatred in your heart.

        The prosecution rests.

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      • She looks like she’s from one of the rural regions. They’re all bow-legged and look only borderline human.

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      • Your connection of a murderous Chinese prostitute with Judaistic facial features is exhibit ZZZ of the extreme, unflinching hatred in your heart.

        The prosecution rests.

        Rest on this, counselor.

        You just outed yourself and proved Shane correct… you were a cogdis Yahudi all along…

        Otherwise why would my comparison of this dragon lady face to NEGRO features (wide nostrils, simian… DUH!) make you go apoplectic thinking I was slurring your ilk?

        The defense rests… case dismissed.

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      • And may I add, who told YOU you could try an imaginary case in your head dealing with MEN?

        You fairy.

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      • Greg Eliot: 3

        Spirit within: 0 ( actually the foul language should get you a minus one )

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 5:36 am The Spirit Within

        Canadian Friend, if you’re referring to centuries to be spent in purgatory for hatred of billions of fellow humans, your little scoreboard would be right.

        The soul of Greggie Schwein Eliot is so sick and twisted that he has now actually, publicly tried to connect a murderous Chinese prostitute with the facial features of the Semitic and Negroid ethnic groups that he hates. And to him, it’s perfectly natural and logical to do so on a public forum. A bit like the Bush admin’s public connection of Iraq to Al Qaeda through ludicrous evidence such as yellowcake and “Curveball”.

        Is there no depth to which he won’t stoop?

        Never mind his baroque, outdated diction and syntax. Avaunt thou fairy, blah blah blah. His hand-to-the-brow overwrought declarations of serving a higher, greater power. No, he’s just a hateful dick in a wag’s clothing, and I hope that the audience here at the Chateau sees him for what he really is.

        FWIW, I’m a Catholic, born and raised, but I don’t expect him to ever believe it. The river of cogdis crap will continue to flow…

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      • All I ask is that others look at that dragon lady’s picture and tell me whether she looks pure Chinese, as most of us Occidentals would say… or whether her nose and the general visage don’t hint at some negroid admixture.

        Nothing Semitic was hinted at… my use of the word schnozz was just my normal normal slang from having grown up in one of the largest metropolitan areas of the country… I often use German and Yiddish terms here at the chateau because to me that’s common parlance amongst my circles… you dumbass schlemiel.

        As far as the rest of your folderol, you fairy, well… my points against you were made long ago. Like LIly before you, you claim you’re not Jewish, but never hesitate to chime in with your inanities when you believe they’ve been maligned… yeah, right.

        You’re dead to me from here on out, so have a ball taking you’re little Cathedral-bitchy snipes from the safety of your keyboard.

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      • Greg Eliot

        By that wide-nostrilled schnozz and simian look in her eye, I’m guessing she ain’t all Chinese.
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        Exactly; she’s AFRICAN like the rest of us.

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      • Heh, heh… those pictures of (ahem) Shem, Ham, and Japheth… (Noah’s sons, for you of the non-Biblical bent)… are about as accurate as the latest Darren Aronofsky movie.

        What next, a picture of Noah’s wife… Joan of Ark?

        lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlol

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    • Lisa Heng … might be an associate professor at UCB. She certainly has the face for it.

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      • BTW, how many of you white people have an epicanthal fold?

        Go look in the mirror, I’ll wait….

        An epicanthal fold is skin of the upper eyelid that covers the inner corner of the eye. The fold runs from nose to the inner side of the eyebrow.

        OK,

        if you have it, she we hang you?

        or should you hang yourself?

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      • Before or after the Lifestyle Lift? LZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLOL

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  7. No offense to the Chinese

    Uncharacteristic. It’s deflating to realize who our masters are.

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    • Oh, freaking please. China are not the “masters” of the USA. China has huge problems of its own and isn’t going to be dominating the world anytime soon. They can’t even dominate the islands off their own shore. Moreover, Americans have a long tradition of screwing foreigners out of their money. Japan got had, bigtime, back in the early 90s when they had to sell off all the assets they acquired in the 80s.

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  8. Zombie Shane and Greg Eliot have essentially hijacked this site.

    These two clowns account for probably 30% of the comments seen here.

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    • Yeah, and don’t forget, Greg Eliot sock puppets as the “Director” from time to time.

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      • You claim that Greg Eliot sock puppets with no proof. CH doesn’t allow sock puppets, and he sees everyone’s IP address.

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      • Yes he does. And if we each had a dollar for every time ZS used the phrase “Buns in the oven…” that phrase is to him what “Avaunt, thou impious fairy” is to Eliot.

        They are a couple of repetitive, unimaginative turds.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 10:39 am BraveAtheistGirl

        I Will Marry an Asían, love Being White but realized Asians have had lots of achievements and i have Been involved in movements like Otaku, wish i were Eurasian, despiste what racists say, ancient Europens like Voltaire deeply admired the Chinese, my future children Will claim the best of both worlds, HAFUu in Japanese

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      • Naw, Greg fires off some deft witticisms.

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      • I have a standing offer of a month’s pay wager to anyone that wants to claim I sock puppet… all it takes is the mod to check IPs, right:?

        Thus far, my enemies can only sputter and bear false witness… which reflect more upon them than their intended target.

        And the funny part is, Stillicho in the past has been PROVEN to sock puppet under various names, so of course he projects this inanity onto those against whom he has tried to match wits and come a cropper.

        Thwack, well… he just tries to annoy me.

        In either case, when it comes to putting money where their imbecilic mouths are, well… the crickets are holding sway.

        Now avaunt… you fairies.

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      • “Standing offer of a month’s pay.”

        How much does a McDonald’s cashier make these days, anyway?

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      • There’s one of Stillico’s sock puppy ids…

        This vein is rich in irony.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • Stupid Golliwog.

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      • As for our resident early-humanoid thwack, he adds a little spice to the board; like a young pet chimpanzee with a pink bow in its hair, marauding around the house, squirting shitty goo in its diapers and gnawing on the furniture. The spiced-diarrhea scent that lingers in his path of primitive cognitive vandalism, and his open hate for his zookeepers–manifest in his adamant refusal to concede the simple facts about his breed, perhaps tickle the vestiges of my early liberal indoctrination, giving me pings of affection for the adorable little rascal, the diapered, powdered, grinning picaninny scamp in the pink bow… just don’t let him in the house or near the kids.

        Or maybe it’s the shade of the Southern Gentleman passing through this native Californian; fond amusement enabled by the naive thought that we might avoid the inevitable great war–that the collateral damage imposed by the ravages of natural selection can be deferred forever.

        I do wonder though what compels an early-humanoid to repeatedly reveal its red bottom to a campfire gathering of moderns. I imagine an ape in an outdoor pen under a 24 hour halogen light… he wants to slumber in the dark but the light will not stop. Even curling up in a ball, he knows the evil light is still there. So he compulsively returns to attack the light, flinging his feces and handfuls of dry leaves to evoke a moment of relief; flailing in the impossible cause to extinguish the light of truth.

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      • How much does a McDonald’s cashier make these days, anyway?

        Heh, heh… Stilicho/Bel Riose/Etc biting the hand that feeds… if it weren’t for Mickey D’s, you folks would starve.

        Aren’t you the guy from the mail room who tried to impress that SWPL honey receptionist by suggesting a date “at that Scottish restaurant”?

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      • Greg Eliot

        I have a standing offer of a month’s pay wager to anyone that wants to claim I sock puppet… all it takes is the mod to check IPs, right:?
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        Its not that kind of blog Greg. I doubt CH is gonna work that hard to stop a racist from practicing racism; he doesn’t even keep the spam out…

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      • Well then, that’s convenient for you and all the other schmucks around here who can just hurl some accusations and not be held accountable.

        Accountability be like kryptonite to n1663rz, right.

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    • Aka, basement dwellers.

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      • Aka, basement dwellers men of leisure.

        Fixed it for you.

        Pfft. Another asshole stoops to Cathedralese shaming language… from the safety of his keyboard. :duckface:

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    • What, another sock puppy chimes in, to make it appear that there’s a consensus?

      Tsk, tsk… these gnats here at the chateau are even more irksome than the ones that frequent my veranda.

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    • ZOG has hijacked the rest of the internet, so it’s nice to see the truth being voiced.

      On the other hand, although Zombie Shane is generally correct, he posts WAY TOO FUCKING MUCH. And posts off-topic in game threads. And patronizes us by breaking single statements into multiple sequential posts. I’m on his side, but he makes himself a blight. You want to aggressively spread the word Shane… go present indisputable facts about ZOG in an emotionally neutral manner on popular MSM/ZOG websites. Plain truth is The Jew’s greatest enemy. The people of the lie.

      Human weeds overgrow human flower gardens when left untended. Buns in the oven is important but it’s not the only thing and it gets old hearing it constantly.

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      • I like to give ZS a pass and think of the “buns in the oven” spiel as yet another droll chateau meme.

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    • Moderator: please ban both of them, they make me not want to read the comments any more. People with that much time to post shouldn’t be posting.

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      • Well soil my lace handkerchief.

        The vapors are over in the cupboard, Percy.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 5:02 pm Modern Primitive

        Much as I’ve entertained the idea I wouldn’t want either of them banned. Just get them to mix their material up and tell ZS to stop posting 60 comments when one would do.

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      • Racists and misogynists must be banned! I find it hilarious that people call for a banning for thought crimes on a blog that is basically one giant though crime.

        The jizzabelle ladies would string CH up if given the chance all while screaming about fat shaming and oppression.

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    • And yet it’s faggots with manufactured outrage that seem to piss us off the most. What’s this like the 5th time you’ve cried over ZS’s “hate facts”? stfu or fuck off if it upsets you so much.

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    • What, no love for “gunslingergregi”?

      (Hint to those three: if you have more than one reply-to-self, or one reply-to-self happens frequently, you’re talking WAY too much.)

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    • Greg Eliot:

      all it takes is the mod to check IPs, right:?

      WRONG!

      There is not now, nor has there ever been, a one-to-one correspondence between user accounts and IP addresses.

      Yes, if you get a group of comments from multiple accounts using the same IP in a brief period of time, it’s suggestive but nothing more. (I leave describing some of the legitimate, non-sock-puppet scenarios as an exercise for the reader.)

      In addition, the clever sock puppet (not accusing you of either, Greg) can easily arrange it so his different accounts come from different IP’s.

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      • Well, that would be an awful lot of work, just to have another name to say the same thing. (((shakin’ mah haid)))

        From what I’ve seen on this forum, those who sock puppet get caught because the icon on their name(s) remain the same… and this is tied into either the IP and/or the e-mail they provide?

        The real tell, however, is always the style and tone… as well as who else they seem to be “backing up” to make it appear as if their opinion has some sort of validity or consensus.

        Either way, I’m guessing the mod has SOME way of telling, or at least highly suspecting, because CH himself has come out and identified sock puppets in the past.

        Either way, my standing wager stands. I have no reason to post under anything other than Greg Eliot, unless of course I forget to type in the e-mail and it shows up as Anonymous.

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  9. Indeed, aside from the differences CH mentions there is also a certain creativity that is difficult to measure. That creativity coupled with cooperation, discipline, and (most important, still) a high intelligence, that’s how you move forward.

    When talking about IQ averages, also remember that the White race has more IQ outliers than any other races. This means the White race will have more of those geniuses who invent and drag the rest of society forward. You need a group, not just a few, since a scattered few can’t accomplish much. Whites have that group.

    Also, men have more IQ outliers than women. This goes for all mental talents, such as mathematics, or linguistics where women otherwise have a slightly higher average: men have more outliers in every mental talent. That is why the greatest writers, thinkers, mathematicians, innovators and artists will always be mostly men – despite the enormous advantage women get today, gaining far more media attention for their work. (The example of the Australian writer who used a female Aboriginal pseudonym comes to mind. Before that publishers weren’t interested in his work. Suddenly his work was “genius” and praised and promoted by all the media. When it was discovered that a White man was behind the pseudonym, he was hated by the media, without a hint of introspection.)

    Men also seem to have more of that creative spark than women do, the spark that makes you ask “Why?” and “How?” with genuine interest, instead of as an intro to rote phrases. When it comes to Asians, it seems they have less of that dynamic creativity. They could invent instruments, yes. But where is the Asian Beethoven? The Asian Leonardo da Vinci? The Asian Michelangelo or Dante or Shakespeare? They are good at copy-copy though, much like women.

    A final note: In dangerous times you also need courage in order to gain wisdom. And really, when you say about someone “he is intelligent” what you usually think of is wisdom. You gain wisdom by processing information with your intelligence, but you must also have the courage to do so. And the interest. I have met many people with a high intelligence who are dumb as bricks when it comes to politics, merely spewing out prepackaged phrases that, when pressed, they can’t explain or back up in any way. They lack the courage and the interest. At those times I know I’d rather spend time with someone with a slightly lower IQ who is humble enough and brave enough to learn.

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    • Arbiter

      They lack the courage and the interest. At those times I know I’d rather spend time with someone with a slightly lower IQ who is humble enough and brave enough to learn.

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      Thwack stands, take a bow and blows kisses to the audience

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    • on July 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm Charlesz Martel

      Could you give more specifics about that Australian author you mentioned? I can’t find it on google.
      Thanks.
      Great post, btw.

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  10. Intelligence is only “arguably” the most important thing if one has relatively low intelligence and wisdom.

    To all others, the most important thing is blindingly obvious. It is conscience. The sense of right and wrong. Everything else, including intellect, is a two-edged sword. An intelligent person can do more good than a stupid one, but also more damage.

    My personal paragon of human “intelligence” is Forrest Gump.

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    • I agree that I’d rather be around people with a well-developed conscience.

      But that Forrest Gump character is just pablum for Ammurricans… the naive, not-too-bright good-hearted regular Joe that just keeps his nose to the grindstone and, despite difficulties, somehow comes out all right in the end.

      He’s the archetype of what our MSM lords and masters would wish for their subjects.

      Which is why he gets the Academy Award treatment… and works like Atlas Shrugged go a-begging.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:15 pm The Spirit Within

        I’d love to hear what your conscience tells you, Greg Eliot, particularly about refusing to see humans as individual spirits, and instead as lump-sum aggregates of skin tones?

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      • Come back and address me when you have something cogent to say… or at least when you’ve actually read my posts.

        Hint: search on “men of good will”… you fairy.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 4:58 pm The Spirit Within

        Modern films aren’t produced to please shadowy puppeteers. They’re produced to please the proletariat. And in Forrest Gump, the proles loved seeing somebody stupider than they are.

        You misread this stuff entirely because of your massive, inescapable agenda of paranoid hatred.

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      • You misread this stuff entirely because of your massive, inescapable agenda of paranoid hatred.

        Actually, your inch-deep, puerile Weltanschauung, especially in re Hollywood’s long-practiced agendas, is laughably colored by your own biases… and in the most sophomoric of tones.

        And you’ve gotta come up with better shaming language than the usual suspect playbook… you hypocritically speak of “hatred”, yet would be the first to corral all those who don’t pander to your sensibilities into prisons which YOUR ilk would term (and have termed) asylums… meant to “cure” all those “paranoids” who are obviously psychologically ill.

        Nicht wahr, Kommissar?

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      • Modern films aren’t produced to please shadowy puppeteers. They’re produced to please the proletariat.

        Now that I know you’re a Sunstein shill for sure, let me put others wise…

        Modern films are most assuredly produced to please the men behind the curtains and their agenda… or they don’t get green lighted.

        And if a daring upstart tries to go the indy route with a message that doesn’t suit them, promotion and distribution are withheld.

        Any successes outside of that circle are well-known due to their extreme rarity… and luck in finding a niche that isn’t totally controlled by your allegedly nonexistent machers.

        (the most famous example probably being The Passion Of The Christ).

        And anyone who dares even breathe a word of their closed shop never works in that town again… even after the most obsequious of mea culpas.

        And rather than being produced to “please the proletariat”, they’re produced to feed the proletariat… either the sort of messages that the puppet-masters want them to hear… or total dreck meant to distract and corrupt.

        Now run along before ya get one in the yarbles… if’n ya got any, eunuch jelly thou!

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      • And I’d like to see what is in the conscience, what is in the spirit of the black people who committed over 10,000 murder during the 512 days it took from the death of Trayvon to the trial of Zimmerman

        I’m sure what we would see would be quite dark ( no pun intended )

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      • You know you’re probably onto something when “The groupthink within” chimes in to show her disapproval.

        Whatever you’re doing Greg keep it up.

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      • You must understand that, culturally, to European Americans, conscience is only relevant when someone else’s lack of conscience making them suffer as an individual. Accepting this will save you a lot of frustration in these interactions.

        You’re talking about a guy who would slice your baby’s head off without blinking, and then claim that he is superior to an African who commits the same crime, because he does so with less passion, or because he is wearing a badge while he does it.

        These people don’t give a shit about conscience. To discuss it with them is useless unless you’re just doing the psychological equivalent of a game of “try to get your hat back”.

        Better to poke them to get them started about their dreams of a race war that isn’t orchestrated by the government…while they’re being prodded by the government into becoming “terrorists”.

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      • So funny…You can tell them that this is what is happening, and show them how the government has done it before with other activist groups, and they still walk right into it. Sheep. I don’t know who I should respect less, Greg or a random crack addict.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 5:41 am The Spirit Within

        Greg Eliot betrays his utter lack of understanding of the modern film industry. Let’s just say I’m in a position to know how it really does work.

        12-year-olds in China. That’s who Hollywood Jews are now making movies for. There’s no agenda other than that. It’s pure market economics. To think *anything* different is to refuse to address reality.

        Television is more influential domestically, and it’s a whole different kettle of fish, but I can’t speak to what’s happening there.

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      • Why would Hollywood waste time and money convincing Chinese kids that all blacks are good decent honest hard working brilliant doctors, CEOs, inventors and scientists and that all whites are evil, lazy and ignorant?

        Something does not add up…

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      • Well now that the Queen of Babble-On and Groupthink Within are in agreement, if they can just resurrect Silly Lily and get her on board, the issue’s settled!

        Don’t know whether to:

        lzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlzozlozlozl

        or

        (((shake mah haid)))

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 6:34 am The Spirit Within

        Avoidance of a substantive response has been duly noted. Tell me: What is it like having your precious little butthurt weltanschaung about the film industry shattered by the cold hard fist of economics?

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      • I reiterate:

        You’re dead to me from here on out, so have a ball taking you’re little Cathedral-bitchy snipes from the safety of your keyboard.

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      • “12-year-olds in China. That’s who Hollywood Jews are now making movies for. There’s no agenda other than that. It’s pure market economics. To think *anything* different is to refuse to address reality.”

        Fer sure. What’s “prolapsed rectum love” in chinese?

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      • Greg Eliot

        But that Forrest Gump character is just pablum for Ammurricans
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        In the movie they made the only guy stupider than Forrest Gump a black guy.

        Coincidence?

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      • In the movie they made the only guy stupider than Forrest Gump a black guy.

        Coincidence?

        If memory serves, Bubba was smarter… he had the shrimp boat, and the partnership after the war was his idea… plus he knew a myriad of ways to prepare shrimp for consumption… no mean skill.

        The only coincidence is making such a sympathetic negro character who gladly befriends, and is befriended by, the protagonist.

        Again, thwack, you’re making my point for me.

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      • Greg Eliot

        If memory serves, Bubba was smarter… he had the shrimp boat, and the partnership after the war was his idea… plus he knew a myriad of ways to prepare shrimp for consumption… no mean skill.
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        But since Bubba is NOT a white man, he will fail at what ever he attempts to do.

        Just like Obama

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      • In the end the white guy ( Gump ) gives a fat check to the black guy’s poor family

        a not too subtle message for us “privileged” white folks

        another thing, was not the black guy in that movie the typical noble savage of so many Hollywood movies?

        lots of “subliminal” messages in there ( subliminal for the blind useful idiot, but obvious for those of us who are not naive )

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      • Next time you’re in NYC, thwack mah boy, I’ll take you to Bubba Gump’s… they got this pulled pork po’ boy to die for… and they swear it’s kosher, I don’t know how they do it.

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      • Canadian Friend

        Why would Hollywood waste time and money convincing Chinese kids that all blacks are good decent honest hard working brilliant doctors, CEOs, inventors and scientists…
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        I don’t know?

        Maybe the same reason they try to convince us all white women are thin and attractive?

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      • Hollywood portrays women and blacks unrealistically for the same reason? What reason is that, Thwack?

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      • I’d love to hear what your conscience tells you, Greg Eliot, particularly about refusing to see humans as individual spirits, and instead as lump-sum aggregates of skin tones?

        Racists whites don’t go around actively discriminating against blacks. It’s hilarious the people progressives want to believe exist. The worst thing racist white people do is avoid black people. Admitting that you avoid people that don’t much like you in anyways is apparently reason enough to shame someone out of society.

        And the non-racists are so non-racist because they never spend any time around normal black people. They’ll hang out with their talented tenth friends not realizing when the SHTF their friends will go for team tribe in any dispute no matter how many non-racist bonafides they think they had. If a half-mestizo guy got railed by the media for defending himself, does anyone think they’ll give a swpl fair treatment? It’s going to be funny because at the end of the day you put all this effort in and you’ll be deemed just as racist as Greg.

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      • Well-put, scott… what these SWPL’s don’t fathom, although history has given them ample examples, is that when the SHTF in a race war, one’s skin is one’s uniform.

        I pity the fools, thinking they’re exempt because they were one of the “good” ones.

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    • Why would Hollywood waste time and money convincing Chinese kids that all blacks are good decent honest hard working brilliant doctors, CEOs, inventors and scientists and that all whites are evil, lazy and ignorant?

      Something does not add up…

      And let us not forget how eager the adolescent Chinese are for heartfelt stories of the Holocaust… both real and imagined.

      lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlzolzol

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      • The young Chinese will be glad to know that, if they should ever go to prison, there’ll always be a kindly and streetwise negro chum to help them out… although he won’t be able to protect them from the white rapists.

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    • To all others, the most important thing is blindingly obvious. It is conscience. The sense of right and wrong.

      Try to invent the wheel or penicilline with “conscience”, leftist idiot. By the way, intelligent races have a stronger conscience.

      My personal paragon of human “intelligence” is Forrest Gump.

      Aaaaaaaaawwwwww. Blatantly false statement about intelligence, simply for the sake of scoring leftist points. Aww, you want applause, little leftist?

      But you didn’t say the Negro in the Forest Gump movie was also your … “personal PARAGON”. So you lose points. Better luck next time.

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      • Arbiter

        Try to invent the wheel or penicilline with “conscience”, leftist idiot. By the way, intelligent races have a stronger conscience.
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        Quest For Fire

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      • Thwack’s education comes from Hollywood and YouTube films, so his pounding of the chest about bipedalism and picking up a burning branch that had been struck by lightning is nonetheless as amusing as it is understandable.

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      • No, intelligent individuals tend to have a stronger conscience. Just because there may be a couple more per thousand in your race doesn’t say anything about you or the other 998. It may be that in your race, someone has to have a certain IQ before they can develop a conscience…like a switch.

        It seems so, looking at the history…mostly mindless tools, easily led into murdering whoever they’re pointed at, with a few in the top tier who sometimes rebel effectively. Africans are rebelling almost as a reflex, across the IQ range.

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  11. To paraphrase Orwell, if there is hope for America it is with the white proles.

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  12. IQ supremacy is just another excuse for white genocide.

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  13. You lost me on this one. This sounds like pseudoscience. Go to Hawaii, Toronto and Singapore, then go to Shanghai and Beijing. There’s similarities, but the cultures are like night and day. You can see the difference in 1st vs 2nd generation relationships among Chinese-American immigrants.

    Also, if there’s a problem with immigration, why the hell are we focusing on 1% of the American population, instead of the 20% walking in from the southern border?

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 12:42 pm Steve Johnson

      You want to talk HBD facts?

      All Ashkenazi are approximately as closely related as two whites who are third cousins would be. In other words,

      Imagine if the Bush family was 1.7 – 2.6% of the population of the country and agitated they way they do now for policies that help the Bush family and helped each other out the way they do now. Doesn’t look like such a minor inconvenience anymore, does it? Instead of maybe a few dozen legacy admits to a few Ivy league schools now you’ve got 30% of the entering class made up of Bushes. Oh, and Bushes count as white for the quotas so actually over half of the whites actually are Bushes.

      The Bush family is likely way above the American average in IQ too.

      Now realize that the single most important issue to this family is ensuring the security and wealth of the family and that they see a majority white America as the number one threat to their security and wealth.

      At least the Bush family is related to most Americans so their interests wouldn’t be nearly as opposed.

      That’s why we’re talking about 1.7 – 2.6% of the population.

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    • People create their own culture, and importing the Chinese would bring theirs over here.

      ” You can see the difference in 1st vs 2nd generation relationships among Chinese-American immigrants.”
      Could be the enviroment, and could also be selection.

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  14. It’s like he actually believes reality TV is reality.

    Yes. Men and women high on TV mistake it for a reflection of society, when, in reality, the programing acclimates the soft skulls of the addicted to an anti-reality they then perceive as truth.

    whiskeysplace, with his ceaseless homoerotic fetishization of black men, is an excellent sample of this strand of horror, the enlivening spirit of which is not unlike that which inspires mudsharkery.

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    • In whiskey’s defense, he’s just doing the job his paymasters ask of him.

      Not that “it’s just business, nothing personal” is an excuse… but I don’t want to accuse him of actually believing the cogdissery he unleashes… after all, THAT level of dimness would be a disgrace to the Aborigine race.

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    • There’s something masochistic about Whiskey fetishization of the black man. Despite Hollywood propaganda most desirable white girls don’t have that fetish. However they do go for white guys with stereotypical black characteristics. That’s a much bigger issue in regards to bringing down the quality of whites.

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    • Have you read ANYTHING I’ve written? My latest post is hardly celebratory of Black life or leadership in general. However, I see things with my own eyes (just today at the pharmacy, White female/Black male the female “average 6/7 looks”) re-inforced by Satoshi Kanazawa’s study and Steve Sailer’s insight on sexual dimorphism and attraction re skin dark/light. I’ve also see White women lap that stuff up like a double dose of Ellen and Oprah.

      I don’t like it. I think its unfair competition with the playing field tilted against White guys, I want protectionism in the sexual market as well as the labor and trade market.

      You don’t like the message: in status and melanin, Black guys have a built in thug advantage, and White women are not race loyal, even less so than Asian women who their men complain about all the time. Only Black women seem race-loyal, unwilling to date/marry outside the race. That may be a function of higher obesity and ugliness among Black women (less demand for them outside their race).

      You can’t sell Sand in the Sahara. White guys better Alpha up, the competition is getting harder in a global sex market, and our women are the definition of lacking loyalty. And if unions are a good thing in the labor market, doubly so in the sex market. You don’t like this message, it is valid nevertheless and those to fail to heed it will sit at home alone.

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      • Hey Whiskey, unlike some of the others, I find your comments interesting because you say things other white people can only think.

        Here is my theory:

        Because sexual attraction is one of our most if not the most primitive of human motivating forces; it makes sense for females to be sexually attracted to a primitive man?

        and in the white supremacy culture blacks are considered most primitive.

        This also explains white women and King Kong.

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      • This is why I call Whiskey “one part insight and nine parts ridiculous extrapolation.” An OK Cupid study discussed here a while ago shows that white women prefer white men to the exclusion of everyone else — and black women are most open to dating out. My own eyes show that nearly all couples walking abut are same-race.

        [CH: In the past five years I have seen an uptick in black-white couples (in both permutations), but their overall numbers remain low as a total of all the couples I see. When it comes to assessing on the fly the rarity of any interracial coupling, I use the Headsnap Quotient. If my HQ is very high — if my head snaps around to do a double take — then the couple in question is very strange and very rare indeed. This has happened a few times with asian male-black female couples.]

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      • http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/

        Not to mention the sample size on okcupid already skews towards the freaks. So even the freak lefty women from broken homes, purple hair, and too many tats STILL don’t dig black guys

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      • Whiskey goes way over board with the “negro” fetish. The most desirable white women prefer white men. However there is a subset of 6s and 7s that would date them over a nerdy white guy. The bigger issue is white women fucking white guys with stereotypical black characteristics ex. The dumb obnoxious brutes. Read the Homo and the Negro.

        http://www.starktruthradio.com/?p=221

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      • James O’Meara calls them uncultured oafs.

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      • This also explains white women and King Kong.

        Sheesh! No matter how many times thwack gets a beat down on this canard, he just keeps coming back in another thread and tries it again.

        If you’ll recall, it’s the ape who’s fixated on the blonde.

        And in the original, she was terrified the whole way through, and only drew a relaxed breath when the great White hero came to her rescue.

        Of course, PC and Hollyweird being what they are, the remakes all showed the luscious blonde sympathizing with the poor gorilla.

        What you are mistaking for desire in THOSE instances is just the WASP soft spot for dumb animals.

        Since you like to invoke the movies, chew on this oft-quoted line:

        “Back then they wouldn’t give me the time of day, and now they’re sucking my kneecaps. I’m even a board member on the zoo now… cost me a million bucks, heh, heh. One thing you gotta remember about WASPS, Bud… they hate people but love animals.”

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    • ‘Men & women high on TV’ – why, that’s a good 90% + of the US population……

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  15. Good thing black people restored their culture from whites in South Africa right? IQ isn’t everything, but it still trumps everything else. Arguing against that is irrational and emotional ape-like thinking.

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    • Okay, I believe you… you can stop pounding your chest now.

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    • I’d rather live in a community of 100 iq white Christians than 115 IQ Atheist Sperges. Sure, my society probably won’t invent the next facebook but Billy Bob and I can probably watch the football game, grill, and he won’t call me out on my thought crime for noticing things

      I used to be the 126 iq (estimate) spergy guy who didn’t understand religion until I spent some time around other 126 iq spergy guys and found out I didn’t like them very much.

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  16. The taboo truth that different ethnic groups behave differently. When I was in college I was a Supervisor of the student union. I walked by a student meeting one day and heard a bunch of swearing and angry words, someone shouted F#$% your mother, no Fu#$ YOUR mother. I looked in and saw it was a group of black students. I stood by for a minute but everything was fine. The group left later acting like they were all best friends. It’s just how they communicate.
    If that had been a group of white fraternity boys saying those things I would have called the campus police immediately because a real fight would have been about to break out.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 2:06 pm Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

      That different ethnic groups behave differently should surprise no one. However after having a couple generations of PC deception propaganda shoved down our throats, we’ve been “persuaded” to believe that in spite of all pieties to “diversity” that we’re all the same.

      This is the fundamental contradiction built into the reigning ideology. Either we are diverse or we are equal and the same. They somehow want us to believe both at the same time. I’m not judging or saying that one culture is better. I just happen to prefer the modest, quiet and restrained style of the high context high trust ways of Northern Europe. If others wish to live differently, knock yourselves out. Don’t bother or judge me. I won’t bother or judge you. If we agree that our cultures are diverse and that behaviors are different, then we shouldn’t be surprised if the result and outcome of everybody is also different.

      I don’t mind if folks decide live however they please, nevertheless if they live outside the European or Jewish norms of conscientious responsibility they shouldn’t be surprised if they get a different result.

      Many immigrants and otherwise guests are attracted by the results of generations of European or Jewish norms of conscientious responsibility… indeed a civilization we should be proud of. Many of these newcomers enthusiastically accept the values of the host Leitkultur and become indistinguishable culturally and behaviorally from their hosts and neighbors. Who among us has a problem with this kind of enthusiastic immigration and assimilation?

      Problems only arise when immigrants and guests want to enjoy the fruits of the hard work and sacrifice made possible by generations of Europeans motivated by the kind of conscientious and responsible values without accepting and cultivating those values themselves or in their own families.

      In short diversity means doing things differently in a meaningfully different way. We shouldn’t be surprised if they get a meaningfully different result.

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  17. A little of both. You can not discriminate against a person solely because of their race, which is actually not yours, this person does not belong to a numeric-abstract collectivity.
    However, we should not equate all only through iq.
    It’s what I’m always advocating on my blog and what ever advocated.
    People, many of them here in the HBD community, believe that IQ tests are the ultimate answer to human biology, especially in the cognitive part.

    One reason to believe that the world as it is, is fully dependent on genetic factors, lies in the idea that in more egalitarian and not fully egalitarian societies, the most intelligent can rise to positions of eminence and relevance than others, when it is clear that a major door openers to the highest social class, it is just money.

    Some people have been born of wealthy parents, there is no level playing field in this way. I do not buy the idea that blacks will be equal to the white random starting point for personal development is zeroed, but I believe and it is clear that the most successful people in our society are those who exhibit psychopathic characteristics very clear and take advantage to cheat others.
    As the minority school of fish that surprises the predator.

    How to make a race-based issue, not being racist or racialist??

    Destroying the reductionist idea that we can have only one right answer. Do not despise the multiple perspectives. Yes, we have a variety of white racialist smart and intelligent whites who are not racialist and give higher priority to intelligence. If they are really smart, learn to live with each other.

    Each iq level have its own bell curve or behaviour, personality, epigenetics suscetibility.

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    • but I believe and it is clear that the most successful people in our society are those who exhibit psychopathic characteristics very clear and take advantage to cheat others.
      ———————————————————————————————-

      OK,

      but the real test of a man is when he can maintain his nobility when surrouneded on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

      Try to resist the urge to walk around with your fist balled up all the time.

      It aint easy

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      • The essentiality of this problem resides in the event that produced the complexity and therefore Universe and anti-inertia, which is the duality. Duality is the force that results from the friction of opposites.

        To be trapped is necessary that predators. This is the problem. Good people are forged by morality. The good people must learn to identify subtypes that trigger all avoidable conflicts of the human species and eliminate them. There is nothing amoral about it.

        Just as when we identify irregularities in the soil that can result in tragedies, for example, landslides, it is necessary to identify the destabilizing elements and eliminate them before they continue with their way of life, which surely will result in suffering innocent.

        But the vast majority of good people never make it.

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      • That pseudo-Biblical spiel in Pulp Fiction sure is a tickler of your fancy, in’nt it?

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      • It sure got your attention?

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      • Your point?

        Ever notice how the negro shoppers get the attention of the security guards?

        Well, DUH!

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  18. This defense of white proles really brings out the chimps in here. White proles do behave like 2nd generation Hispanics. They also behave like mixed black-whites. And yes, it’s because of IQ. There’s no “white” culture among the youth white prole, you delusional apes. The “white” culture is Jay-Z, Kanye, and Beyonce. It’s “16 and pregnant” with the black boyfriend. It’s not fucking Chinese, who are 1% of the population.

    The race game is over. Get the fuck over it, and walk into the 21st century. The game is now status, and you mentally weak fuckers refuse to accept this new reality. The “white” American culture is predominantly Hollywood Jews along with inner city blacks that dominate influence among the youth. It’s not white, and it hasn’t been white for a couple of decades now.

    How much perspective do you have to lose to think it’s the fucking Chinese that are the problem? This the horseshit I expect from a senior citizen who’s playing WW3 scenarios in his demented brain. The Chinese aren’t even the most successful immigrants, it’s the fucking Indians you dumb shits.

    Hopefully I’d included enough 4-letter words that you prole letters can process this message. You dumb fucks. If not for the Chinese and Indians, America’s culture will be entirely dominated by blacks and Hispanics. Do you want to be Canada or do you want to be Brazil?

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    • Well all-righty, then!

      Don’t know about these other pale ditch-diggers and hash-slingers… but I, for one, feel roundly chastised.

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    • Spoken like a true progtard.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:18 pm The Spirit Within

        No, he is merely looking at our society without a neocon agenda. Is that difficult to process?

        Well done, Taylor.

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      • Cussing and yelling that “this is the way it is, get over it,” does not a successful rhetorical argument make. It’s simply how you progtards try to steamroll and b.s. everyone else. “Damn the truth, full steam ahead” is the progtard mantra.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 1:25 pm The Spirit Within

        Complaining about tone is a female argument tactic.

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      • “Complaining about tone is a female argument tactic.”

        +1

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      • @The Spirit Within
        “No, he is merely looking at our society without a neocon agenda. Is that difficult to process?”
        the neocon agenda? Are you retarded? The Neocons want to fill the US with foreigners, you dingus.

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      • the neocon agenda? Are you retarded? The Neocons want to fill the US with foreigners, you dingus.

        Don’t expect progtards to remember that Jorge Arbusto and Juan McAmnesty were for flooding the USA with Mexicans. Consistency is not a strong point of theirs, as it would demand adherence to the truth.

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      • There’s a lot of confused conservatards who embrace neocons 90% but oppose illegal immigration by putting all the blame on the left. Full blown neocons want total open immigration. While there’s an ethnic component to it, it’s primarily because the 1% want the slave labor.

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      • Complaining about tone is a female argument tactic.

        Well, I’ll give you that…

        But I find it awfully ironic, coming from a little dweeb who takes great pains to follow my posts and Cathedral shame me for being RAY-CISS.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 5:00 pm The Spirit Within

        I’ve never complained about an even-handed investigation of racial differences. That stuff is fascinating.

        I complain about your HATRED. Is that crystal fucking clear, Greg Eliot?

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      • What’s crystal fucking clear is the space between your ears… and the rage that unbalances you when YOUR particular ox gets gored.

        Now scram, kid… you’ve grown tiresome.

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      • I complain about your HATRED. Is that crystal fucking clear, Greg Eliot?

        Palpatine would applaud you and urge you to let the hate flow through you and it’s making you powerful.

        Like other Gamma males, you tend to project your feelings onto others. Greg doesn’t hate nonwhites or progtards, he just finds them amusing and fun to smack around.

        You, on the other hand, write like you have the temper of a hung-over ferret.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 5:16 am The Spirit Within

        Corvinus, you clearly haven’t read Greg Eliot’s commentary for the last two years.

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      • Thanks for having my back, corvinus… I know we’ve disagreed on plenty of issues in the past, but it’s refreshing to know there are still men who can separate their personal animosities from their objective judgment and speak the truth.

        All I’ll say is, if the so-called racists and antisemites hated as much as Without Spirit seems to, his ilk would have a valid concern.

        As it stands, there’s no doubt in my mind that he’d be the first to fill the Gulags and “asylums” with us, and then sleep like a baby, thinking he (or perhaps ‘she’?) had done right for his/her fellow Man.

        ‘Tis to lzozlzozlzozlzozlol.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 6:37 am The Spirit Within

        “…there are still men who can separate their personal animosities from their objective judgment and speak the truth.”

        Try to be one of those men someday, Greg Eliot.

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      • Could you BE any more of a dweeb?

        The chateau is hiring enforcers and bouncers…

        Hall monitors need not apply… you fairy.

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    • “Status” is an ephemera. And how on earth can the Brahmin, with their women who smile too much and their children who slave uselessly over their orthography tomes, be considered the “most successful immigrants”?

      Low-IQ older white people are pacific, quiet, unassuming. Trailer trash women still keep house, clean the toilet, check out romance novels from the library.

      Your rant, Taylor, is incoherent. Races are genetic; IQ is genetic. What Starship Enterprise bridge are you beaming this screed in from, with Jews, Chinese, and Indians freely sorting in high-IQ solidarity against whites you bizarrely deign as “chimps”?

      And what ARE these ameliorative Chinese and Indian contributions to forestall the slide into black and Hispanic-dominated (they DO run Hollywood, you know) culture, perchance? “Bride and Prejudice”? Your favorite Vera Wang clutch? (What’s that stain, btw?)

      And alas, your essay did not include nearly enough 4-letter words. Consult your high-IQ Jewish betters, so you fucking might get your fucking dumb fucking point the fucking better across, fuck fuck fuck.

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      • That’s about as sound a takedown of another’s inanity as I’ve seen…

        Well-played, sir… well-played, indeed.

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    • I agree. The stereotype of the white racist is always the prole but I often speculate that a lot of young white men who came from middle and upper class background but are destroyed economically will become much more radical than the tradition white proletariat.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:21 pm The Spirit Within

        +1

        Loss of middle-class, and even the hope of entering a middle-class, is when modern societies degenerate. Then race riots ensue, and in the ensuing mess, everything is blamed on the darkest segment of that society … when in actuality, nasty riots are triggered by feelings of hopelessness (usually economic).

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      • Exactly. Right now there’s still an artificial vaneer of a middle class, but people are in debt and don’t own there homes. When will start seeing some real rage is when generation that is now in college enters their 30s and doesn’t have jack shit. I see former middle class as becoming more radicalized than traditional proles who’s standards are much lower.

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      • Also if the alternative right wants become a serious opposition movement they need to focus more on economics. Way to much talk about HBD and not enough talk on economic solutions such as opposing usury.

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      • Any cursory study of revolution in Western Societies will show that it’s not downtrodden peasants which trigger the upheavals, it’s (as you rightly pointed out) the middle and upper-middle classes not having any hope of their expectations being met under the current system.

        But to slough it off as “then race riots will occur and the darkest elements be blamed” (as if said darker elements didn’t have a large input in the current malaise!) is short-sighted, at best… and disingenuous, at worst.

        Take the first major somewhat modern example in the French Revolution… there were no races to riot, merely classes… and the lower elements didn’t take the blame, the aristocracy did… and many paid for it with their very heads.

        Point is, more often than not, what historians of a certain bent will refer to as “scapegoats” may be correct in speaking of given individuals… but scapegoats, like stereotypes, do not arise in a vacuum.

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      • The white racist 15-40 is probably petit bourgeoisie or like Patrick Bateman a sociopathic upper class mover and shaker.

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      • A liberal once wrote.

        “The danger the … state faces does not come from the poor. The poor, those Karl Marx dismissed as the Lumpenproletariat, do not mount revolutions, although they join them and often become cannon fodder. The real danger to the elite comes from déclassé intellectuals, those educated middle-class men and women who are barred by a calcified system from advancement. Artists without studios or theaters, teachers without classrooms, lawyers without clients, doctors without patients and journalists without newspapers descend economically. They become, as they mingle with the underclass, a bridge between the worlds of the elite and the oppressed. And they are the dynamite that triggers revolt.”

        Sounds right.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 5:03 pm The Spirit Within

        +1 Van Phuac

        Revolutions start in the living rooms of the downwardly mobile.

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    • “it’s the fucking Indians you dumb shits.”

      You have no idea how stupid the Indians in India are. We get the cream of the crop.

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      • Yes. Teh progtards should spend a few months in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar — the most overpopulated miserable craphole states in India — and only then presume to try lecturing to us.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 1:27 pm The Spirit Within

        The girl at OfficeMax yesterday couldn’t add 80 + 30 in her head. I had to tell her what I owed.

        She was a white American.

        (Yes, it’s anecdotal. I don’t care.)

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      • And because you found a “math is hard” young chippie, the point you’re attempted to gainsay is… well, gainsaid?

        Can you say “solipsism?” :duckface:

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      • “You have no idea how stupid the Indians in India are. We get the cream of the crop.”

        Conservatively, that still leaves 75 million high caste Indians. I’m not advocating letting in the foreign proles. Indians are not just good at winning spelling bees. They’re shaping our government policies, CEOs of our top companies (including Microsoft), and fondling your genitalia to make sure you’re in good health.

        If we replaced our proles or URMs with high caste Indians or Chinese, what moron is going to argue we’d be worse off, because we lost the precious white proles? That’s inane.

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      • If we replaced our proles or URMs with high caste Indians or Chinese, what moron is going to argue we’d be worse off, because we lost the precious white proles? That’s inane.

        Actually, what’s inane is your concept of some sort of Babylonian meritocracy.

        It takes whites to make whites… all else leads to an eventual lowest common denominator Brazil… at best.

        And history is replete with great men and minds that have risen from the so-called “prole” classes.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:38 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        > we get the cream of the crop

        nothing wrong with such a result, were it completely true. Immigration per se, is not the USA’s problem. It’s the open borders, the birthright citizenship, and the extended-family-reunion petitioning-enablement. Probably just a coincidence that they are the 3 things which are most Democrat-voter-genic

        If you marry a Swiss or a Greek or a Singaporean, your spouse can petition YOU in to the country. ONLY YOU… and you are only ENTITLED to an ID as a Temporary Resident. Permanent Residency and (eventual) Citizenship for you, requires a FURTHER later affirmative showing that such is in the interest of your new country.

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      • @Greg Eliot: Go back to fantasyland or your childhood photos, where America is still a white country. 50% of the newborns are non-white this year. Here on planet reality, we have a large low-IQ population that needs to be balanced out by a high-IQ population that we currently aren’t close to having. And there’s no evidence, trend or realistic chance that we can breed ourselves into anything close to the numbers necessary.

        Maybe you need an immigrant friend to teach you some basic math, so you can comprehend this. 21st century America will be different, and we must take pragmatic steps to give ourselves the best demographics possible. Maybe you should spend time watching sports and reality tv, where you can produce some ideas of use.

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      • I have the strongest suspicion I’ve just gored another mischling’s ox.

        Since you turned things personal, let’s have a go then:

        So, who was the white one, kid… mom or dad?

        Or were you one of those oh-so-fashionable SWPL adoptees?

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 6:39 am The Spirit Within

        Another avoidance of a substantive response from Greg Eliot.

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      • @Greg Eliot – LOL, that’s what this comes down to? I’m pure thoroughly recorded family tree that’s entirely pure. Which one of your parents had the low IQ?

        I shouldn’t expect you to understand this, since it’d require a deeper level of insight to see how the alternatives would play out. Any acquired knowledge on your part doesn’t make up for your adequately above average IQ. Hang out with the proles, whom you can impress.

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      • Taylor, your myopic views have been eviscerated by several here already… most notably Lucius Somersuch.

        Learn or depart… another alternative is to come get one in the yarbles, if’n ya got any… eunuch jelly thou.

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      • @Greg Eliot: Go back to fantasyland or your childhood photos, where America is still a white country. 50% of the newborns are non-white this year. Here on planet reality, we have a large low-IQ population that needs to be balanced out by a high-IQ population that we currently aren’t close to having. And there’s no evidence, trend or realistic chance that we can breed ourselves into anything close to the numbers necessary.

        Maybe you need an immigrant friend to teach you some basic math, so you can comprehend this. 21st century America will be different, and we must take pragmatic steps to give ourselves the best demographics possible. Maybe you should spend time watching sports and reality tv, where you can produce some ideas of use.

        White people are very very good at genocide. I’m not saying it’s going to happen but to pretend it’s impossible to happen when the Germans did it less than 100 years ago is foolish. Here’s a fun thought crime, is Germany better off today because of the holocaust?

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    • You don’t get it.

      CH wants to explain that IQ is not everything. Chinese are a birlliant example for a group that is smarter than whites but still different enough that it would destroy America as we know it.

      HIspanic mestizos and blacks are obviously not as smart as whites so it doesn’t matter.

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      • When I was around 10 I theorized that there is an intelligence level and an aggression level. Whites are someplace at the mean. Thoughtful Dilligent Creative and Driven.

        Blacks are aggressive and stupid, happy to lucky etc…

        Chinks are passive and docile, conformist and quick witted.

        I’ve seen nothing in the last 30 years to change that assessment.

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      • America as we know it? That America no longer exists. Let’s stop living in the 1950’s. It’s over. We need to adapt to this new world, and we need IQs above 115 to maintain our leading role.

        Sure it won’t be identical to 20th century white America, but it won’t be China2 (whatever the fuck that is) or India2. It’ll be an improved 21st century America, and whites will still lead America through plurality. If our demographics remain with half the population having a mean IQ of approximatley 90, then we’re screwed. We become Mexico2.

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      • “It’s over. We need to adapt to this new world, and we need IQs above 115 to maintain our leading role.”
        Yes, but people usually work for the interests of their own people, race, population, etc, NW-Euros and their descendents are the exception and the reason why the West did so well until recently. You should go check HBDChicks blog.

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      • Thank you, godspeed… this is the dirty little secret that Buck Rogers of the 21st century doesn’t grasp…

        All those so-called smart “others” he wants to use to “make our America stronger” (LZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZ) are not going to work for the common good… they’re going to be out for themselves and their own kind.

        Balkanization is where America is headed, with a good leg up already… and if he thinks a mixed meritocracy is going to arise with a great holding of hands and singing of kumbaya, well… we’ll sooner see unicorn races ’round the rings of Saturn.

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      • It’s necessary to take an anti American stance or at the very least view yourself as a foreigner or outsider in American. A lot of conservatards base their whole ideology on trying to save American. Their American patriotism is based on non existent freedom and prosperity.

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    • “This defense of white proles really brings out the chimps in here. White proles do behave like 2nd generation Hispanics. ”
      First of all, crime rates rise for 2nd gen Hispanics:

      http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/10/15/crime-rises-among-second-generation-immigrants-as-they-assimilate/

      In places the ones described here the rates are 2/3 of the national average:

      http://theweek.com/article/index/255505/appalachia-the-big-white-ghetto

      “And yes, it’s because of IQ.”
      IQ != Personality traits.

      “The “white” culture is Jay-Z, Kanye, and Beyonce. It’s “16 and pregnant” with the black boyfriend. ”
      Ridiculous, White culture is more than what you see on MTV. Why does the US have liberal democracy while many other countries dont? Why are so many places inhabited by Whites such nice places to live?

      “The race game is over. Get the fuck over it, and walk into the 21st century. The game is now status, and you mentally weak fuckers refuse to accept this new reality.”
      What are you trying to convey here? That race has become unimportant?

      ” The “white” American culture is predominantly Hollywood Jews along with inner city blacks that dominate influence among the youth. It’s not white, and it hasn’t been white for a couple of decades now.”
      Again, White culture != MTV

      “How much perspective do you have to lose to think it’s the fucking Chinese that are the problem? ”
      Where did you get this?

      “The Chinese aren’t even the most successful immigrants, it’s the fucking Indians you dumb shits.”
      Who said that they were? Where are you getting all of this?

      “If not for the Chinese and Indians, America’s culture will be entirely dominated by blacks and Hispanics.”
      What? What have those groups ever contributed to the culture of the nation?

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    • I want the US to be more like Canada in a heartbeat. My aunt and uncle live there, so if the shit hits the fan in the United States, I will move in with them.

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  19. One of the biggest myths in American society is that a high IQ guarentees success. Robert Lindsay was a security guard at one of the wealthiest gated communities in Southern California. He talks about the personality characteristics of the rich. Robert Lindsay is a liberal race realist.

    http://www.starktruthradio.com/?p=260

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    • Regression to the mean… the parents might be extra-bright but their kids are pretty much average. Rags to riches to rags in three generations as the saying goes.

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  20. More interesting to me is how groups form along similar IQ ranges, race per se is no barrier to IQ, however IQ is in and of itself a sort of “bar” to meet to be a part of a social group.

    An IQ 130 plumber can hang out with an IQ 130 professor, an IQ 90 plumber is not likely to be spending much time with an IQ 130 doctor in social situations. there are few interests in common.

    Want to talk about “Family Guy”? You’d be laughed to scorn, or mocked, as the intelligence level is simply to disparate, IQ 90 is watching cartoons, IQ 130 is learning languages. In the real world the difference is quite stark.

    A soft bigotry, or perhaps, evolution at work..to stick the shiv, a dumb woman will be valued for her vagina among a high IQ social group, a dumb man has little value at all to that social group. Yet the collective “we” hear it is so hard for women..at least they have access.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 12:23 pm The Spirit Within

      Well said.

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    • I couldn’t agree more with your comment. I’d like to add another point for you to think about: the level of “Openness” of each individual on the 5 point O.C.E.A.N. personality scale.

      On average, I see people of equal levels of “openness” surrounding one another. “Openness” to experience is correlated strongly with IQ and it can explain why I notice that people who are very open are more inclined to accept those who don’t look like them.

      Occasionally, this can lead to a “pass” for people who aren’t above average IQ to join a higher IQ group; all that’s necessary is that he or she shows an interest in enjoying/creating novel experiences (especially in the arts).

      As an average/slightly below average IQ guy, I’ve seen it a few times.

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      • This “openness” is a Frankfurt School rationalization for 115-130 IQ Judeo-midwit restlessness under the “stifling constraints” of aristocratic or bourgeois higher culture. “Openness” to jazz, coke, swinging, “abstract” art, atonality, “Critical Theory”, miscegenation.

        How “open” were Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? The Founding Fathers?

        Thinking positive happy thoughts about a buzzword like “openness” is like getting a soft-on when somebody tells you to “get in touch with your feelings”.

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      • Ah, there is a a shared interest however, for example does it require a massive IQ to create art, or to enjoy art? When gathered together under such a mutual interest, IQ barriers tend to fall down, for example the Dr who rides a Harley chatting about it with a Harley owner who maybe is not on the same level IQ wise

        Now when the conversation diverges from Harleys, the gap becomes huge

        However, Sex is the great equalizer, the Dr on the Harley perhaps could not get laid in a whorehouse with a pocket full of hundred dollar bills, the guy in between jobs can get laid like a rock star

        In that sense the Chateau, is the dwelling of higher IQ types who are trying to demystify women and sex and being a chump, and how it happens and why it happens..ie Sex levels IQ fetishes, it is objective, one is getting laid, or one is not..there is no inbetween

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      • This “openness” is a Frankfurt School rationalization for 115-130 IQ Judeo-midwit restlessness under the “stifling constraints” of aristocratic or bourgeois higher culture. “Openness” to jazz, coke, swinging, “abstract” art, atonality, “Critical Theory”, miscegenation.

        How “open” were Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? The Founding Fathers?

        Thinking positive happy thoughts about a buzzword like “openness” is like getting a soft-on when somebody tells you to “get in touch with your feelings”.

        Comment of the month, right there.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 6:48 pm haunted trilobite

        Ok, Lucius, fully accepting that miscegenation, coke, swinging etc are commonly deemed bad behaviour or traits, and marxism and abstract art are considered destroyers of a cultural body of traditional western art, as well as traditional Eastern culture/art, how is it that jazz, with its atonal features is considered ‘bad’? We’re talking about musicians that could simply bury the majority of classical players in terms of their knowledge of theory and technical skills, and there are plenty among them that are creating beautiful-sounding music. And this is in contrast to modern art where the guy who glues his used toilet paper to a chalkboard might have absolutely zero proficiency with a paint brush. The bottom line is that you’ve got to be able to play, and play well in order to be a good jazz musician, and at the top of the genre now there are some incredibly talented white american musicians.

        It appeals to a more popular audience, and the venues of course usually don’t usually have the prestige and aristocratic qualities that classical venues do. But it’s not self-aggandissment nigr in ur face rap music, inane and innocence-destroying porn pop or unwashed rocker bleating out his emotional one-itis. I could understand how the latter 3 are destroyers of civilisation, but surely the top-quality musicianship in jazz can be appreciated on its own merits. I’d genuinely appreciate some explanation as to why jazz is bad.

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      • For what it is worth,

        I think jazz musicians are over rated.

        I am a musician myself and have studied what other musician play in many different music styles, and the fact jazz musician allows themselves to play notes that are not even in the right key, some notes that actually sound bad, just so they can play very fast as many notes as they can in a very short time makes them cheaters.

        Some classical music is composed that way but to a lesser extent.

        It is impressive to non-musicians to watch someone play so many notes so fast and impressive to people who’s ear is not developped enough to hear those bad notes, but some of us are not fooled.

        It happens so fast that most people do not notice that some notes do not fit at all, that they are actually wrong notes.

        I am not saying all jazz musicans do it or that jazz music as a whole is bad, but if you compare to say a very good and fast Flamenco guitar player, or to name one progressive rock musician/composer off the top of my head; Keyboard player Keith Emerson you will see that 99% of the notes are in the right key, that almost no note is “dissonant”. Yet they play as fast, as well as any jazz musicians, and play things that are just as complex.

        It is playing notes that are in the right key and that have some resemblance to the main melody or main theme and playing them very fast that is truly difficult.

        Playing just any note you want very fast is pretty easy and it is cheating.

        And Jazz musicians are the ones who cheat the most.

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      • I’d genuinely appreciate some explanation as to why jazz is bad.
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        May I chime in?

        Thanks.

        *chime*

        I suspect because it requires non linear thought; which is the seat of creativity.

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      • on July 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm haunted trilobite

        You might be correct that the occasional jazz musician cheats, but the whole idea, in my understanding, is that they play with dissonant notes, and extra temporal rhythms. At least one (or more) member of the group is holding the time perfectly, while the soloist plays outside the time, and outside the scale, in order to stretch the tension, etc, then comes back in on a cue. The reality is that some of it is ingenious. Check out Allan Holdsworth as an example of possibly the greatest musician alive. His knowledge of music and ability to execute never-before heard chord progressions is astounding.
        Speed is certainly not impressive on its own, sound is key. And there are too many unbelievably talented jazz musicians who’ve been able to access the most perfect sounds and rhythms, that I have nothing but respect for the greats from that genre. Regardless of what instrument they play.
        You make a good point about flamenco styles and prog rock. They definitely play some incredible stuff. Prog rock in particular took a lot of its theory from jazz, and vice versa, after prog rock had developed. For example, Phil Collins and other Genesis members had jazz fusion side projects going on too. I don’t know if you’d agree with me, but there seems to be little distinction remaining between the heavyweight musicians – they cross in and out of genres seamlessly these days.
        It was Mozart who said it that there are only 2 types of music – good and bad. And you can hear bad music with some close attention. Even highly technical players can disguise their inability to access beautiful sounds, but only for so long, as you said, not everyone is fooled.

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  21. “We then spend the rest of our lives trying to forget the patterns we noticed in high school.”
    I attended the 10-year reunion of my Detroit (Catholic) high school. During school years there was some race mixing (socially, not sexually) and camaraderie due to sports,but at the reunion the two races completely self-segregated. Awkward. Things lightened up at the whites’ after-party.

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  22. Apart from copy/pasting the NYT editorial page, pretending to invent the concept of “rent-seeking”, and jerking off to abortion, is Half-Lion providing much value-added content these days?

    I’ll grant his long career has supplied a few good posts, but . . .

    –I mean, Steve Sailer can be forgiven his eccentric real estate reviews masquerading as film criticism, considering his heroic exertions in other fields of inquiry; but Half-Lion is just a Steve epigone, and an oft ungracious and faintly risible one at that.

    The chateau’s circumspection around the leonine mane betrays some satiric mirth still biding its time.

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  23. BTW I totally support Lion’s proposal. You have a lot of intelligent introverts who are not making it in today’s economy which favors people with type A personality’s. While its a miniscule minority a handful have gone postal since they see themselves as situational losers as opposed to real losers.

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    • It’s all about the ‘tude. If an intelligent introvert learns Game minus those things that are more appropriate for extroverted men, he can become a successful sigma male.

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      • Some do, but most do not. I think America overall disfavors those types in comparison to other developed nations.

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      • Problem for the Sigma is, it does not occur to most wannabe Sigmas how to manipulate the system, they WANT to be a part of the system.

        A true Sigma sees the System, knows what it is, and uses it to their own benefit..to paraphrase a real Sigma is a hunter who knows no boundaries or rules, those who follow those rules, the SMV and the sort of caste that comes along with it are merely chumps and suckers.

        Gammas and Deltas will bitch about the System and their place in it, a Sigma does not bother..which frees the Sigma from the bitterness that characterizes the Gamma and Deltas..and the weirdness

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      • I’m not saying we can fix the system I’m just saying how it is. However people with low social capital are more vulnerable to the system as a opposed to people with higher social capital who can subvert it.

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      • There’s a movement called Gangster Bolshevism. There attitude is since society can’t be fixed so they take a termite view towards society.

        http://www.starktruthradio.com/?p=405

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      • Here’s how I see it:

        In this day and age, when most men are low in confidence and high in frustration and apathy, more introverts tend to be Gammas and Omegas, but those types tend to end up exploited by everyone else in any society, not just America. But the sickness of the culture does indeed sap introverts’ confidence, possibly more than it would extroverts’.

        IOW, as a civilization gets sick, both σ/(δi + γi + ω) and α/(β + γe + δe) go down, with the former equation being the “civilizational confidence level” of introverts, and the latter for extroverts — but the former, I imagine, sinks further. Vox Day thinks Sigmas are only about 1/3 or 1/4 as common as Alphas.

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    • Hey, if you are Robert Stark who does the interviews for counter currents radio, or you know him, could you please tell him to stop using the jooish radio trick of keeping his guests mic lower than his.

      Your interviews, topics and guests are very interesting, but this trick you do is very annoying and quite unnecessary.

      Please stop it.

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  24. on July 26, 2014 at 12:36 pm Oswald Spengler

    “Yesterday they were ruffians, today they control our lives…tomorrow they will wind up as keepers of the public lavatories.”

    This Juvenal quote describes our arrogant and decadent SWPL elite perfectly.

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    • Except they were never ruffians… that would have required actual cojones and dirtying of the hands.

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  25. on July 26, 2014 at 1:35 pm Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    The Marshmallow Test can probably show much more than a simple IQ Test.

    The other dimensions of personality, conscientiousness, openness, neuroticsm, etc can tell an awful lot about how one will be able to integrate into a community and contribute to society. I agree with our dear host that the single-minded obsession among some with mere IQ is misguided.

    I’d really like to see an intercultural examination about these other personality dimensions to complete the picture of differences in the human population.

    Everybody has known geniuses who can’t get stuff done, execute or otherwise work in a team. On my projects I’d sacrifice a few IQ points in my team for an extra portion of these other gifts.

    In some cases our world indeed demands and rewards extreme specialization. However in most areas, some competence in many dimensions is required.

    Life is more a decathlon than a single sprint or power lift.

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  26. I also think CH misinterpreted Liger of the Blogosphere. He didn’t say black IQ 90 guys and white IQ 90 guys aren’t different. He just says a white 115 guy is more different from the white 90 IQ guy than the black guy is. I agree with this.

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  27. on July 26, 2014 at 2:11 pm backchecking

    History tells us that even smallish immigrant cohorts from China end up rising to control the accepting population of their new lands.

    Thailand
    Malaysia
    Indonesia
    Vietnam

    Similar dynamics follow elitist Indians

    Fiji
    Patels — everywhere

    Their sense of clannishness is off the charts. They are absolutely NOT for mixing in with the locals. In this, the Indians are even MORE caste oriented than the Han.

    Further, each and every one of these cohorts votes totally along one party lines. This tick totally ruins the American model of Republican Democracy, for all voting is based upon who you descended from — and nothing else.

    It is MOST unwise to bring in high IQ cohorts with such known incompatibilities.

    Indeed, everything points to America devolving into a caste riven state.

    Barry’s ‘reforms’ drastically accelerate this trend towards Brazil.

    { Have you noticed how modern America is echoing “Brazil” the movie? }

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    • Living by the motto “Us First, Always” goes a long way towards becoming what some of the apologists here at the very chateau refer to as (ahem) frontrunners.

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    • Now that you mention Brazil… Germans in Brazil are another good example.

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      • Yeah, but didn’t they go back home right after the game?

        lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlzo

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      • I’m really starting to wonder what Brazil ever did to piss you guys off so much.
        Did Edson steal your ala-freaking-baster HB 11 virgin church-going Quaker buns-in-oven gf in college?
        The White America many here uphold as the Holy Standard never really existed outside of 1950’s TV shows (reruns of which seem to be standard fare among many a Chateauiste), and the similarities between colonial Brazil and colonial US have always been pretty strong.
        Think of it this way: Who would you rather be?
        A tan, athletic soccer player with average or lower IQ who’s in a gang, goes to the beach every day and scores with many pretty girls, local & turista alike
        OR
        a nerdy, pudgy, bespectacled quasi-genius who gets really good at Legend of Zelda 57 while the sub-zero Fahrenheit hurricane rages without and has never had sex outside of Manga masturbation?
        Brazil or Canada?

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      • Are those the only two choices? :duckface:

        I’m guessing most of us would rather be Denzel Washington than Danny DeVito… what was your point again?

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      • @wolfie

        Nah, Brazil is what we don’t want the USA turning into.

        Although, actually, Brazil is arguably in better shape demographically than we are now. They don’t have mass immigration, and their negroes actually have lower birth rates than their whites now.

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      • wolfie65

        I’m really starting to wonder what Brazil ever did to piss you guys off so much.
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        My theory is it demonstrates that you don’t need a whole lot of white people.

        This scares the mediocre ones.

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  28. on July 26, 2014 at 2:19 pm whorefinder

    Agreed. IQ and civilized behavior are not the same thing.

    For example, in a sped classroom (where PA came from, natch), there are well behaved speds and bad-behaving speds. All have low IQ, but the well-behaved ones can at least be taught how to function in society. They can wash dishes, have an apartment, etc. because they’ll be polite and work hard to fit in. You want the well-behaved ‘tards around—I’d rather have a decent, hardworking, well-behaved retard as a neighbor than an intelligent neighbor who acts like a savage.

    Now, I’ve often said that the black problem has less to do with IQ than with savagery. Basically blacks have three problems:

    1. Low IQ

    2. Savage nature.

    3. Hatred of becoming civilized.

    2 & 3 are not the same thing.

    Now, in the past, many groups had 1 & 2. Irish, Germans, Mongolians, Redskins (natch), etc.—all had a lower-than-average IQ and were uncivilized.

    however, none of them had # 3. The Irish, Germans, Mongolians, Redskins, etc. all had the desire to become civilized. They rejected conquerors who tried to impose it—-but they desired the trappings of civilization on their own and bent to the rules of it. In fact, many moved to other countries and seriously tried to fit in so as to get civilization that way if their own country wasn’t headed there fast enough for them. They were willing to sacrifice to become civilized.

    Not kneegroes.

    Kneegroes have a burning hatred of becoming civilized—what is termed “acting white.” They run around justifying mahogany mobs, polar bear hunting, and laziness. They extol savage behavior and hold savages and lairs up as their leaders.

    The best thing to do to kneegroes besides mass extermination–always a possibility, given how they ruin everything they touch—is deportation back to sub-saharan West Africa, where they can live in the savagery they love—cannibalism, prostitution, AIDS-epidemics, raping infants, etc.

    The kneegroe has no desire to become civilized, unlike every other human race on the planet.

    This is why they are not human. They are monkeys.

    Analysis rape!

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    • hmm NABALT (?), From what I’ve seen that CAN be true, especially when there are group dynamics are involved. Especially under younger black folks where in there is a sort of race to the bottom. Let one guy grab a woman’s ass and there is like a feeding frenzy, RARELY will someone step up and say “Man, knock it off, that is out of bounds”, situations go from bad to worse after all “Don’t act white!”

      What I have also seen is individually, that is not ALWAYS true, I’ve hung out with black folks who would give you the shirt off of their back and have great insights esp into women

      When that group dynamic kicks in, they switch up, it is one of the reasons why poorer black neighborhoods GENERALLY look like steaming 4th world hell holes, the overall idea of “We live here, why would I want to live in a shit hole” is not generally spread throughout the community. Overall the attitude is more like “fuck it”

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 1:04 pm whorefinder

        Yes, we all know a Clarence Thomas, a Thomas Sowell,a Bill Cosby—i.e. what we were promised by mass media–men who just HAPPEN to be black. The men who are undefined y their skin color, seek to be civilized, whom, if you took away their skin color, would remain the same person.

        The problem is they are the TINY MINORITY of kneegroes. For every Thomas Sowell, there are 99 Stepin Fetchits. For every Clarence Thomas, there are 99 Al Sharptons. For every Bill Cosby, there are 99 Chris Rocks.

        In other words, for every 1 humans who happen to be black, there are 99 knig-grrs.

        Such a ratio is incompatible with civilization. They should be removed from civilization immediately. Those who wish to stay (i.e. the black 1%–the civilized) should be treated as the WASPs used to treat every immigrant group—all their ethnic ties should be destroyed forthwith. By force.

        Rape!

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  29. Problem for the Sigma and the system is so few even bother to study the tools required to step outside the System, the matrix if one will.

    The wannabe’s step right into the matrix and bitch about their lot in life rather than carving out their own niche of freedom and sex.

    Generally this requires a higher IQ, to both perceive traps and to perceive opportunities, this does not involve being chubby and playing XBox

    that shit is effeminate and the carriers of the poon can smell it from a mile away

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  30. totally agree. Any white couple in the US could have children in the swpl IQ strata or the 90 IQ class. If you’re white, they are all your brothers.

    Here’s a nice quote ( The White Ghetto — NRO Online ), speaking of rural whites in Kentucky and Appalachia more generally, that shows how qualitatively different poor whites are from the poor the swpls try to avoid in their gated communities.

    There’s a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two-thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average, according to the National Criminal Justice Reference Service. Chief Logsdon is justifiably skeptical of the area’s reputation for drug-fueled crime. But he is not blinkered, and his photos of spectacular autumn foliage and delicate baby birds do not denote a sentimental disposition. “We have loggers and coal producers,” he says, dropping the cornpone accent. “We have educators and local businesses, and people in the arts. And we have the same problems they have in every community.”

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    • And yet the usual suspect apparatchiks and their tedious camp followers on this very site keep trying to tell us it’s all merely IQ.

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    • Also, rednecks are very clever and can do amazing things with their “redneck technology”. In da hood, on the other hand, I can’t think of anything other than low riders and other such things that provide ornamental but no practical use.

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      • B/c at the end of the day, even the poorest of White ppl are taught to create and to push limits. Ask a “redneck” if their parents or grand parents had a garden

        Black folks used to do so, Latinos still do, ask a woman at work why she did not have a garden, her answer, verbatim “Because some people act niggerish, they would stomp the plants”

        Do that in East LA, Nana will start shooting, or should

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    • 90 IQ whites are likely to have kids with IQs closer to 100. Again, regression towards the mean. It would take a couple of dozen generations to get a solid average-90 IQ class of whites.

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  31. on July 26, 2014 at 4:00 pm gunslingergregi

    if iq was all important my relatives would of been owning a city and more
    but you also need to have a leader and teamwork a goal and vision to make those iq’s more meaningful than helping just the individual and not achieving almost infinite power for the group in a real world context
    everyone has achieved but we could have really ACHIEVED some serious shit

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  32. on July 26, 2014 at 4:01 pm Cigar Burger

    http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/4588493054.html

    New low. Maybe the lowest I’ve ever seen, and definitely worthy of its own post. A woman posted a Craigslist missed connection for a homeless man, likely schizophrenic, shouting about his dick to her through her window. She found his confidence and forthrightness sexy.

    If that doesn’t spell the end of beta provider game forever, then I don’t now what does.

    Guys… A HOMELESS MAN

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  33. an odd thing is high iq people rarely have high test levels.

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  34. on July 26, 2014 at 4:07 pm gunslingergregi

    why don’t most white people work as a team?
    personal initiative is all well and good but it is easy to fuck up one individual
    it is hard to fuck up someone who has 9 people willing to kill for him

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    • We only work as teams when we get really cold or really hungry… or sometimes, really bored… and the gummint says it’s okay.

      As long as there’s a fast-food joint on every corner and 130 channels on the dish, expect nothing more than the continued slow death.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 5:41 pm gunslingergregi

        yea def think all the godfather type movies worked to show a family working together as always being illegal when if they did it legally they would still easily be rich

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    • the oppressors are always networking, and making sure they keep individuals isolated.

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  35. As a white with a 90 iq, I can assure you that chateau is right on the money in this post. Anyone with even minimal exposure to the different races will see obvious temperamental differences that have zero relation to iq. It disgusts me to hear so-called high iq whites smugly dismiss this obvious fact

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  36. Is there a link to a pdf compilation of all of CH’s writings in chronological order?

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  37. on July 26, 2014 at 4:19 pm gunslingergregi

    A genius is a person who displays exceptional intellectual ability, creativity, or originality, typically to a degree that is associated with the achievement of an unprecedented leap of insight.”

    hey wait I’m a genius I always knew it

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  38. Heartiste, by teaching Game to thousands of men, has enabled more mud-sharking than almost anyone alive. Whether you consider this a good thing or a bad thing, depends on who you are.

    Fact : No one benefits from Game more than colored guys seeking to get with a hot white chick, since white chicks won’t usually do a colored guy unless he is far above average (i.e. tight Game).

    Heartiste has helped a lot of mudsharking happen.

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    • on July 27, 2014 at 6:37 pm gunslingergregi

      most black dudes don’t need game they have drugs to give to white bitches
      most white guys don’t get drugs they have jobs they need game or something

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  39. on July 26, 2014 at 4:24 pm gunslingergregi

    its kind of funny when people say a genius
    can’t talk to people who are not a genius
    but then say that a genius would be the one who could learn a foreign language
    so your saying they can learn a foreign language but not smart enough to learn the lingo of someone of a different iq in the same language sounds like actually a dumbass person who thinkgs they smart then don’t it now

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  40. on July 26, 2014 at 4:32 pm angryredbirds

    Learn to speak Chinese. Teach your children to speak Chinese and Spanish. If you want them to survive.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 5:22 pm Edward (Teddy) Bear

      Or buy your children AR15s and take back the country.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 5:32 pm angryredbirds

        Go ahead. Me and mine will be poolside with general tsoas chicken.

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      • They’ll spend more time playing video games online with Spanish speaking Americans designed by Chinese Americans, than living out your delusional Civil War sequel. Grow up old man.

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      • Ni hao ma?

        I suspect the Cathedral is counting on the docility of the “white prole” to shepherd the newbs into America, hell, I like them they can fuck my daughter…uhm..how about no?

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  41. 90 IQ whites vs 115 IQ whites = the narcissism of small differences. 115 IQ whites desperately cling their superiority but in reality both groups are intellectually mediocre and to the extent that they’re useful to society it is because of other behavioral traits like conscientiousness, trustworthiness, loyalty, and the fact that their line might eventually get lucky and produce a freak / genius.

    If anything 115 IQ types are more dangerous, because nowadays there are a lot of parasitic niches in the ecosystem and 115 IQ parasitism is an order of magnitude more destructive than 90 IQ parasitism.

    And don’t get me started on 150 IQ parasitism.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 4:52 pm The Spirit Within

      Well said. That’s why it’s better to be good than smart.

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      • I agree that it is better to be good than smart but…

        Look at what a certain demographic group has done to Detroit city or South Africa, to name a few of the many places they have turned into hell holes where the main victim of this violence and misery is other people of that same demographic group.

        I agree that it is better to be good than smart but that demographic group is obviously neither smart nor good.

        I know you will try to blame white people for this but they kicked whites out of SA and what about Rwanda where that demographic group slaughtered almost a million of the same group? are you going to blame whites for that?

        Why would we want more of them among us if a large portion of them are neither smart nor good and will turn everything they touch into Detroit city?

        This is not hatred, this is not racism, this is being logical.

        I look at the facts honestly without any emotions or preconceived idea

        That group turns everything into a hell hole. A large portion of them are neither smart nor good.

        How does that make me a hater or a racist?

        There is a fish from China , I think it is called the snake head fish, that is beyond invasive, it somehow ended up in USA waters and it is killing most species of fish in the USA.

        If I say everything should be done to reduce the population of that snake head fish to protect trouts and other domestic species of fish , does that make me a hater? or do I make sense?

        If I want to protect trouts and pikes and other local fish does that make me a hater of Chinese fish?

        Why can’t you see that certain demographic are nothing but trouble as they are neither smart nor good, if they were good Detroit and SA would be happy places, they are not.

        I am not calling them derogatory names and I do not want them hanging from trees, but since they are mostly trouble I want less of them not more of them.

        Why can’t you understand something clear and simple like this?

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 6:52 am The Spirit Within

        Canadian Friend, before we can have a decent discussion, you need to understand the reasons for Detroit’s decline.

        Hint: It’s not just “the blacks”.

        Educate yourself. Read this.

        http://www.newgeography.com/content/003897-root-causes-detroit-s-decline-should-not-go-ignored

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      • I can not “educate” myself on any topic by looking at one or two possible exceptions to the rule.

        If you were to find one cat that can bark like a dog, that would not educate me the least bit on what the typical cat or dog is like.

        Nor finding one albinos would educate me on what billions of humans are like.

        Let’s say blacks had nothing to do with the demise of Detroit ( which is a lie white liberals keep repeating as they have this obsessive compulsive mental disease of making excuses for ALL other races except whites) , That would not change anything.

        How do you explain South Africa? ( I know I know it is whitey’s fault!!!) and how do you explain the hundreds if not thousands of other places where as less and less white people have control and more and more black people take control the same exact thing happens: decay, serious decay and them more decay. ( I know your answer; whitey did it)

        I’m beating a dead horse with this other analogy but you are trying to change my mind to ” educate me ” , you are trying to convince me that wine glasses do not break if dropped on a tile floor because you found one example where the glass survived.

        Yeah maybe once every thousand times the glass will not break. ok. Does that mean that it is a lie that wine glass breaks easily when it hits hard surfaces?

        Pointing to one possible exception as a way to “educate me” is kind of pathetic…not to mention constantly making excuse for blacks and making them always unaccountable while always blaming whites

        yeah pathetic sounds about right.

        oh and you have not said a word about my analogy to the snake head fish…your silence says a lot…

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      • Educate yourself. Read this.

        Anytime someone says “Educate yourself” drivel almost certainly follows.

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      • Well done, Canadian Friend… if more people took the time, as you did, to eviscerate these inane posters, maybe they’d be less frequent annoyances, here at the chateau.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 11:08 pm The Spirit Within

        Snake head analogy is false. It assumed that blacks weren’t here from the beginning of our nation.

        The fact that you didn’t even bother to address the things mentioned in the Detroit article tells me that you’re too set in your ways. Your mind is too closed. While I’m interested in racial differences — minus the hate — all you seem to want to do is to live in an echo chamber.

        Again, if you want a real discussion of Detroit, read the article. We can talk about transportation, loss of tax revenue, union corruption, poor leadership (both white and black), and most especially the end of the auto industry dominance.

        If you won’t admit that these factors exist, then there’s no hope for you.

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  42. on July 26, 2014 at 5:20 pm Edward (Teddy) Bear

    I saw a YouTube video for the Loving Spoonful hit “Summer in the city.” They used scenes from a 1928 comedy, “Speedy” with comedian Harold Lloyd.

    It was set in New York City. All whites. All Americans. What happened?

    Civil war 2, when will you start?

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  43. And this is why I say multiculti needs to be confronted on its ideological basis, not what the diverse factors may or may not bring.

    For example, claiming that some immigrants are criminals/lazy/extremists will only allow the leftist to say “They’re not all like that!”, and counterargue that most of them are hardworking/nice/smart etc. This is the kind of thing most Western rightists get caught up in, and it doesn’t work.

    But if one were to attack the the very premise of diversity itself, then the left wing position is rendered impotent. It doesn’t matter how good or bad they are, we reserve the right to maintain a homogeneous society.

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    • And then the NAH-ZEE and RAY-CIS barrages begin… which we still haven’t learned to merely laugh at…

      …except, of course, here at the chateau! 😉

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  44. on July 26, 2014 at 5:44 pm gunslingergregi

    SWPLs and their sympatico ethnies don’t much care for flyover whites, but if their hands were forced you can bet Fuckerberg’s bankroll that they’d choose to live in a neighborhood of predominately 90 IQ whites than in a hood of predominately 90 IQ blacks.”””””””””

    well with the shipment of minorities to every white area there will no longer be a place to go to live with whites

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  45. er…. the biggest problem is that ALL immigrant groups outperform blacks. Even the illegal border-jumpers.

    So while we want to keep them out, until we talk about the African Elephant in the room, we get nowhere.

    The reason immigrants are costly is because we are stuck with blacks already. If we did not have blacks, immigrants would be too few to be a cumulative cost (we could assimilate them faster than they arrive).

    So what do we do about the black problem, realistically?

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    • Realistically, we can do nothing.

      But if our attitudes push back progtardery in the future, some things we could do is encourage blacks to identify as mixed-race rather than pure African to cause a schism among their ranks, as well as push through an Afro-Muslim Exclusion Act so we don’t get flooded with the effluvia from Sub-Saharan Africa’s booming population.

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      • Yeah. Because I always get the impression that Hispanics and Asians are apolitical, and without lefto-faggots pouring tons of resources into bribing them, they would just want to earn honest livings. Also, without a porous border, there would be too few of them coming in to really change the country much.

        Blacks are different. They see race in places no one else would see it. For example, black people never go hiking or kayaking since these are ‘white’ activities, according to them. WTF? How about just enjoying nature? I don’t see Asians or Hispanics see race within a decision to go to hiking trail or not.

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    • We dilute their overall percentage by bringing in quality immigrants from Europe, China and India. This increases the number of high earning Americans to handle the social welfare burden. There’s no ideal alternatives. We must be pragmatic or we’re screwed.

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      • So we :

        1) Encircle all black areas with Hispanic neighborhoods, using Hispanics as a buffer from the blacks.
        2) Only let in the quality immigrants. Whites are not numerous enough. Chinese, Indians, and Persians are needed, or we’re screwed, as you rightly point out.
        3) Interbreed with said Chinese, Indians, and Persians and make them vanish into the white population.

        That might have to be it….

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      • Indians are Caucasoid, even if a debased version thereof, so the genetic difference between us and them is much lower than between us and the Chinese. But they have to convert to Christianity like Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley, otherwise we’d be simply swamping our country with Democrats. Persians are near-European, and Shiite Muslim — granted, that’s not nearly as bad as Sunni, but still, they likewise need to be Christians.

        The caste factor should also be kept in mind — the gypsies plaguing Europe now are also technically a type of low-IQ Indians.

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      • Well, I don’t think CH and most of his readers are churchgoing Christians. Plus, the whiteknight/feminist proclivities of conteporary ‘Christians’ is well-documented.

        What is more important is a commitment to free-markets, self-reliance, and private-sector work. A belief that a captain of industry is better than a govt. bureaucrat. That sort of thing.

        To think Christianity is what is saving America is an error that, among other things, caused most Christians to become strong allies of feminism without realizing it.

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      • I should add that Hispanics are Catholics, and most Blacks are Christians too, so Christianity as a means to not be leftists, won’t work.

        Instead, a focus on the private-sector, high-tech success of Asians, and emphasizing that (while covertly de-emphasizing other non-Western aspects of their culture) might work.

        A Chinese or Hindu Indian who has a good job is less of a problem than a ‘Christian’ black.

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      • “We dilute their overall percentage by bringing in quality immigrants from Europe, China and India. This increases the number of high earning Americans to handle the social welfare burden. There’s no ideal alternatives. We must be pragmatic or we’re screwed.”
        That is not pragmatic at all. Indians and Chinese are way more clannish than US Whites and create very different societies. A case could be made for only letting the more open and outbred individuals to immigrate, but that is not a realistic solution.

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      • Anon2: Yes, those are the types of pragmatic ideas that should be discussed. Not the child-like fantasies of shipping tens of millions of people out of the country, which will never happen.

        Let’s remember, while Indian-Americans and Chinese-Americans are not white-Americans, when their children grow up here, they are no longer like Indians or Chinese either. They are different, but it is far superior to our current demographics.

        Look at Canada’s demographics. They have a much higher percentage of Asians, and how many of you wouldn’t trade our demographic ratio for theirs?

        As for Hispanics, they are already pushing out blacks from many American cities. I do not believe we need any more.

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      • “Let’s remember, while Indian-Americans and Chinese-Americans are not white-Americans, when their children grow up here, they are no longer like Indians or Chinese either. ”
        Is that the enviroment, or is it selection? You really dont want a foreign class of elites that are known for corruption, clannishness and nepotism.

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      • You really dont want a foreign class of elites that are known for corruption, clannishness and nepotism.

        Let me know when you expel the Italians.

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      • I should add that Hispanics are Catholics, and most Blacks are Christians too, so Christianity as a means to not be leftists, won’t work.

        Not quite. Modern liberal Churchianity notwithstanding, Christianity, especially Traditional Catholicism, and liberalism are fundamentally opposed. Low-IQ nonwhite Christians are actually Marxist rather than Christian, but high-IQ nonwhite Christians aren’t.

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      • Then, unfortunately, you need two miracles :

        1) Overturn modern feminist churchianity with real Christianity (impossible in a society where women vote).
        2) Convert Chinese, Indian, and Iranian immigrants to the restored Biblical Christianity.

        Two miracles is a lot to aim for.

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      • “Let me know when you expel the Italians.”
        The Italian-Americans arent elites, that should be obvious. If the US only imports the best and brightest Indians and Chinese, then those two groups, through higher IQs and work ethic, will create an elite class who will have disproportioned influence over US society.

        Now, the countries from which those groups originate are known to be very corrupt:

        http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2013/results/

        If there is some way to select for those who are both smart, hardworking and less prone to corruption it might work, but ATM there isnt. Of course, one might also say that jobs are for the citizens first and foremost, and that one shouldnt rely on foreigners as long as the the work can be done by someone already here.

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      • 3) Interbreed with said Chinese, Indians, and Persians and make them vanish into the white population.

        Huh? Any examples of interbreeding I’ve seen in meat world work just the opposite. The white part does the vanishing, even if the offspring physically resemble more the white than the other… and in all areas social and political, they DON’T identify with the whites… if anything, they favor even more mixing on all levels… because, that’s what THEY are, after all.

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      • Mass immigration is class warfare. Solution institute an asset based taxation system. The middle class was at its strongest when the top income bracket was taxed at near 90% in the 1950s. There was a correlation between mass immigration and the destruction of the middle class with Reaganomics and dramatic cuts for the ultra wealth in the Reagan era.

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      • Huh? Any examples of interbreeding I’ve seen in meat world work just the opposite. The white part does the vanishing, even if the offspring physically resemble more the white than the other… and in all areas social and political, they DON’T identify with the whites… if anything, they favor even more mixing on all levels… because, that’s what THEY are, after all.

        I was trying to point out that brown Caucasoids are less harmful than Mongoloids, and indeed, many half-Persians and half-Indians would be indistinguishable from full-blooded Greeks or Sicilians.

        But they do keep harping on a false dichotomy: do we want to be Canada or Brazil?

        They don’t offer the option of being Germany, which doesn’t allow mass immigration from outside Europe.

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      • corvinus,

        That is not true, unfortunately. Germany has a lot of immigration from the Middle East. 7.8% of Germany’s population is from outside of Europe.

        Quite a few from the Middle East and China. Not many Africans, thankfully (they go to elsewhere in the EU, though).

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      • There’s this blogger named Oogenhand who used to post here. He advocates patrilineality with European men and non Euro caucasion women such as Arabs and Jews.

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      • corvinus,

        That is not true, unfortunately. Germany has a lot of immigration from the Middle East. 7.8% of Germany’s population is from outside of Europe.

        Most of those are Turks, and they’re actually bleeding back to Turkey more than they’re coming in, and their birth rates are low. One reason Germany found 1.5 million fewer people than expected in their latest 2011 census was because of the backflow of Turks who didn’t bother to de-register. According to the same census, Germany is “only” 1.9% Muslim. It’s north of 5% in the France, Belgium, the Netherlands, England, and Sweden. Germany is even less Muslim than Canada or Australia.

        Compared to the rest of Europe, Germany is positively Japan-esque.

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      • “Huh? Any examples of interbreeding I’ve seen in meat world work just the opposite. The white part does the vanishing, even if the offspring physically resemble more the white than the other… and in all areas social and political, they DON’T identify with the whites… if anything, they favor even more mixing on all levels… because, that’s what THEY are, after all.”

        Blacks, almost definitely. But white asian pairings don’t seem quite as bad. My half Chinese friend definitely identifies more with his white half.

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      • I’m sure he does… until, of course, the Chinese land.

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  46. You will hardly find a soul who’d wish to possess fewer IQ points than more IQ points.

    Heavy drinkers and dopers.

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  47. Intelligence does not equal wisdom, and nothing proves the absence of wisdom among the intelligent more than the HBD crowd’s embarrassing worship of Orientals and Jews. Most of problems of the modern world have been and are being caused by high IQ whites bereft of wisdom. And the HBD crowd wants us to double-down on that kind of reductionists thinking?

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    • Thank God somebody said it.

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    • A fair point…

      And one of the reasons SWPLs are held in more disdain here at the chateau than all the West’s other purposeful enemies.

      Nothing more deadly than an enemy of your own house… and who thinks he has your interests at heart and knows what’s best.

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    • on July 27, 2014 at 10:56 am Carlos Danger

      Precisely why I’m an anti-intellectual. Excellence is self evident. Most intellectualism is thought in a bubble with too little understanding of the outside world.

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  48. Half Sigma/Lion’s attitude is pretty generic among SWPL. I remember in New Orleans, for grad school (MBA), a number of White, female, SWPL, LA/SF based women complaining about the ugly dullness of the South, and getting dirty/angry looks from our Southern female classmates who rightly took it as a slur upon them. These were btw non-Jewish, agnostic WASP ethnic background women.

    This is based on the endless and ongoing status struggles among White people. IMHO it is because the sex market which puts so much emphasis on status, is so powerful and has a hook on people from age 13-50. That’s far too long. You want to cut down on SWPL-ism anti-White bigotry, particularly against the Working Class and lower IQ Whites (the two are not the same, as Steve Sailer noted the US used to try and identify high IQ rural/working class White guys as untapped potential, now they avoid them) …

    Get rid of status competition and thus close the sex market early. Easier said than done, Women love having options until menopause. But there you have it.

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  49. The ethnic make-up of Kurdistan is… 95% ethnic Kurds.
    Petty theft there is virtually non-existent. Sympathy for petty thievery is non-existent. Massive amounts of investment is flowing in. Drop-dead gorgeous western women can walk anywhere in complete safety. The Capitol Erbil looks a lot like Austin, Texas.
    Their folk music sounds a lot like Johnny and June Cash if you just listen to the underlying rhythyms.

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    • Must be a different “Kurdistan” then. In Turkey, they are the cavemen of the country.

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      • You’ve got to understand, Rum is one of the chateau’s “happy drunks”, and his perspectives are more often than not those of bizarro-world.

        Either that or he’s a flak-runner for the main cogdissers here.

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      • Indeed. Ethnic Kurds have a LOT of Neanderthal genes. Kurdistan is nowadays a weirdly stable and successful society for the Middle East… or anywhere else for that matter.

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  50. Game distilled down in a dream last night. Yes it was an actual dream, but bear with me, it was quite profound.

    I was dreaming I was on a large sportfishing boat, somewhere in Baja Mexico. I was with a woman I have fucked countless times and know very well. Know all of her mannerisms, prudishness and vanilla likes of sex. a good women nonetheless. There was a Captain on the boat, and some misc crew members. The captain was fairly alpha in the dream, but I held my own with my knowledge of offshore fishing and am blunting his good natured attempts at AMOGing me. The woman is enjoying the show and the excitement of offshore fishing.

    We need to cast a net for some bait, so we pull into a narrow cove, backing the boat up near the shore. The shore here is very steep, covered in desert scrub. while the crew are casting nets from the bow, the Capt and I and the woman are looking out from the cockpit. Suddenly we hear a loud growling rumble, the sound of a large cat. we see in the scrub a mountain lion near the shore, then it jumps into the boat.

    The big cat is large, clearly old and obviously blind. The blindness blunts its purely predatory presence, we know it can’t see us (somehow) so are more relaxed, but on edge. The cat pads around the boat (in the strange way of dreams, the boat shifts shapes, so there are numerous corridors) and we stay just ahead of it. It’s power is awesome, it is fairly rippling with Alpha… an electric spark coming off of it.

    The three of us are in a large lounge, the cat is growling again, pads into the lounge, turns and goes out. The cat comes back into the lounge, to a spot where the woman was sitting earlier in the day, sniffs it and then pisses on the spot and leaves. The captain turns to the woman and says “He wants to fuck you Lucy”. I turn and look at Lucy, the woman, and note her swallow and lick her lips at this statement, and that she does not move.

    I am surprised, because she should be terrified that this animal is on the boat, and even more so at this statement. But she appears to me in the early stages of arousal. This is a woman who has sex, but does not lose control (often) and displays no observable kinkyness… I am shocked she is not screaming and crying and running for the hills.

    I look back at her now, she was sitting on a couch, and now she is laying on her stomach, hands in front of her outstretched on the bottom of the couch and her legs bent at the knee so her feet are at her ass… she appears to be transfixed, possibly rubbing her pussy on the couch? The blind beast pads back into the room again, coming into the center of the room and sniffing the air, then pads out again. The Alpha coming off of him is crackling, the air is thick with it.

    I now look back at the woman, she is getting up from the couch and taking off her skirt. she walks to the center of the room, to the last place the lion came in and sniffed the air, she gets naked in front of the captain and I and lays on the floor with her legs in the air. Like we didn’t even exist.

    The lion starts coming back down the hall toward the lounge… at this point I begin to come out of my dream (LOL right?) and some profound game shit hits me, that ties in Alpha, women’s solipsism and hypergamy with real clarity…

    We know women crave Alpha, but often see this trait distilled into things like good genetics, a chance for a women’s offspring to have power, wealth, success, everything towards a better life for the woman and her young… so she puts herself first always and looks to trade up. Alpha/power as life affirming.

    But this is the true attraction to Alpha… when you understand that women are the weaker sex, defenseless… solipsism is a survival mechanism, as is hypergamy… but it is not to a better LIFE, but to avoid the real Alpha power, the power to TAKE life, the power of death.

    And for this they will prostrate themselves, and in so doing, continue to survive and propagate.

    All of game is just a facsimile for the presentation of true Alpha power…

    TLDR: She would fuck the lion not because he was handsome or had money or was charming or other women wanted him, she would fuck him so he wouldn’t kill her.

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  51. Arabs are in general largely scatter-brained. Kurds are in general crazy-focused. A strangely large percentage of their women-folk have green eyes…

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  52. Arabbs are in general scattur brained. Kurds r in general crazy-foccused. And a weirdly high % of their women have green eyes.

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  53. I have a strong compliant about IQ testing in general… I never could get the highest score ever given. So, fuck these people…

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  54. Zuckerberg is a Jew. The hatred they feel for “the wrong kind of white people” is that those white people are goyish and don’t embrace the social and political values of Jews.

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  55. IQ isn’t everything, for certain.

    At the end of the day, a European American who calls themselves a good Christian would, if they could get away with it, gleefully bathe in the blood of my children because their preacher told them I was subhuman.

    I don’t know any African Americans who call themselves good Christians who would kill anyone’s babies, hang anyone who didn’t kill their children from a tree, or do any of the horrid things “good ‘white’ Christians” do and fantasize about doing, and publish that they are fantasizing about doing every day.

    At least an African American monster knows that he/she is a monster.

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    • Now that is serious bullshit, besides there is no need to “bath in” any child’s blood, Abortion mills make it quite easy and “painless”

      Dummy, why does one suppose abortion mills are usually located in minority hoods?

      Oh, Patriarchy

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      • Don’t bother to address the Queen of Babble-On’s n1663r-babble… she projects her melodramatic fantasies onto whites, while her own ilk are knee-deep in the blood of others.

        And this sort of moral “Oh My” from a self-admitted voodoo practitioner! lzlzozlzozlzozlo

        Good point about the abortion mills too, by the way.

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    • I always thought you were a dumb cunt nicole and now you’ve proved it

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      • Now?

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      • Yet you have yet to prove me wrong.

        Do something actually different. Resist being a tool of either the leftist or the rightist using you as a tool, pointing you like a weapon. Be an individual.

        …not holding my breath for this.

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    • Thank you guys for proving my point.

      I don’t call what you say “whitey babble” or “white devil vomit” because I am a decent person.

      You call the truth “n***** babble” and think you are good people. You profess that those you’ve decided are your people, actually do no wrong that isn’t excused by the existence (which itself constitutes bad behavior in your eyes) of others, and that you, by default of your color deserve to rule them no matter how weak and inept you are.

      Most of your time here is spent crying about how you’re not getting the respect you think you deserve, and “rue the day” the “white” man finally decides to kill everybody else and their babies.

      All this mental masturbation with the fantasy blood of children as lubricant, and you think you are not only good people, but better than others.

      It is fascinating, and yet sad.

      If all I had was you and your fellow victims here as an example, I would curse the small streak of European DNA in my body as I see you being as much of a wash as the greasy mite infested powdered cheese addicts found in every Walmart. Thankfully, I have better examples of truly good people who reserve their bloodlust for the deserving.

      I reject your judgement, and am happy to let time and Nature be the test of superiority.

      …but as to goodness…righteousness…compassion…all those things your magical Jew said gave people the keys to the kingdom of God? There is none in you. You’d do better to drop the facade and just admit that you want an excuse to murder people because that, my little wannabe, is in your blood. You’re practically bred to be murder tools, and the main problem with modern life is that you’re like men without your genetic mission.

      Everyone else in the world (especially Jews) knows this, and views your professions of racially universal innocence for what it is: the denial talk that keeps your people killing and smiling.

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  56. on July 27, 2014 at 7:05 am JenkPac Shakur

    European gentiles don’t react as their places of habitation are overrun, and can’t be bothered at all to consider what their France’s and America’s shall look like in 30 years. This, my friend, is inferiority. This is achievement that wasn’t understood by the achievers, nor even remembered. They will strike you down for pointing it out. The fact that Christianity gained complete mastery over Europe, and maintained it until ‘Pax Judaica’, is an obvious reality.

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    • European gentiles don’t react as their places of habitation are overrun, and can’t be bothered at all to consider what their France’s and America’s shall look like in 30 years. This, my friend, is inferiority.

      A fair point, not easily gainsaid.

      Or maybe… just maybe… my friend

      … the Saxon has not yet (truly) learned to hate…

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      • Its because whites have been spoiled by extreme prosperity. Changes are starting happen in Europe. Who knows about Americans, most are to stupid. In Europe a lot of the nationalist movements are taking a stronger stance against the plutocracy. American teabaggers can be broke but still worship the rich.

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      • …because the Saxon never (truly) needed hate to kill.

        All you need to be told is that you’ll be somehow rewarded for it, and you’ll get away with it.

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      • Really? And what are they tellin’ da bruthas? Whose murder rates, worldwide, make all other races look like pacifists?

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      • If the statistics are true, it doesn’t negate my point. Africans are passionate people, and more likely to kill someone who commits a crime against them worthy of that, or who they honestly hate. We (and most other races) need to hate to kill.

        The Saxon does not.

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    • You can thank Freemasonry for the state Europe is in now.

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  57. I am one who has a very high IQ. But I have often been frustrated with the judgment against those with lower IQ’s, simply because nearly all my close friends have lower IQ’s, and I still find my friendships with them to be valuable.

    It is great that they value my intelligence, but I value characteristics about them just as much that have little to do with high intelligence. Characteristics like diligence, kindness, humor, loyalty, etc. are also things to value highly.

    And the reality is that people tend to associate with others who are similar in culture to them, not necessarily similar in IQ. There is simply a comfort level that is hard to obtain in “diverse” settings. That is a human reality, and anyone who denies it is simply being willfully ignorant. Of course, plenty of high IQ people choose to be willfully ignorant of things which violate their chosen world view. That is just human nature.

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    • And the reality is that people tend to associate with others who are similar in culture to them, not necessarily similar in IQ. There is simply a comfort level that is hard to obtain in “diverse” settings. That is a human reality, and anyone who denies it is simply being willfully ignorant. Of course, plenty of high IQ people choose to be willfully ignorant of things which violate their chosen world view. That is just human nature.

      COTW material, right there… well-done, sir.

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    • The judgement isn’t to fault them, since they have no control over it. It’s to say we don’t want to flood our population with a high percentage of them.

      Do your low IQ friends have an IQ of 90 or 110? High IQ people generally don’t hang out in the same circle of friends as low IQ people, with the exception of beautiful women, athletes, entertainers, etc.

      High IQ people watch different TV shows, they vacation in different places, they eat different foods, and much more. This is well documented in research.

      Congratulations on being the exception to this trend. All those admirable traits you mentioned are things that low IQ people are much less likely to have.

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      • Exactly, any sane person would value such positive traits, the reality is such traits rarely have a chance to be exhibited in social situations b/c there is a sort of gulf between high and low IQ holders.

        The institutions that USED to bridge that gap, Church, social organizations, are eroding into oblivion.

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      • High IQ people watch different TV shows
        ———————————————————————

        High IQ people don’t watch tee-vee; they write, produce and direct the “shows”.

        In other words, they do the programing.

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  58. on July 27, 2014 at 7:18 am JenkPac Shakur

    I’m a Levantine Negroid and I wanna be free
    To hell with Gaza and Tel Aviv
    I want to live where the Danish man lives
    So I can rape his daughter and behead him with a shiv

    The Swedish man was nice and he let me in
    Truly a progressive gentleman
    The Swedish man no longer has a girlfriend
    I put a niqab on her head and call her Ghufran

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  59. There are 2 VERY important things brains cannot do for you: They can not make you happy and they can not make you a good person.
    There are plenty of very smart assholes and there are also plenty of very smart people who are miserable.
    Brains overrated? Agreed.
    Besides, women are only interested in your intellect insofar as it relates to your income. Sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn’t.

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  60. on July 27, 2014 at 9:50 am Carlos Danger

    http://www.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2014/07/26/as-libya-implodes-smart-diplomacy-becoming-a-punch-line/

    Does Walter Russell Mead read Chateau?

    If Obama were a Republican, the press and the weekly news shows would be ringing with hyperbolic, apocalyptic denunciations of the clueless incumbent who had failed to learn the most basic lessons of Iraq. Indeed, the MSM right now would be howling that Obama was stupider than Bush. Bush, our Journolist friends would now be saying ad nauseam, at least had the excuse that he didn’t know what happens when you overthrow a paranoid, genocidal, economically incompetent Arab tyrant in an artificial post-colonial state. But Obama did—or, the press would nastily say, he would have done if he’d been doing his job instead of hitting the golf course or yakking it up with his glitzy pals at late night bull sessions. The ad hominem attacks would never stop, and all the tangled threads of incompetence and failure would be endlessly and expertly picked at in long New Yorker articles, NYT thumbsuckers, and chin-strokings on all the Sabbath gasbag shows.

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  61. The truth isn’t race baiting. The article was about IQ, race just happens to play along.

    Pro Tip: Don’t read article that don’t interest you.

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  62. Eh, no… how many times does this selfsame “question” have to be asked and addressed, here at the chateau?

    Go back over just about any non-poosy thread over the past year and find your answer.

    Sheesh… I wish you concern trolls would just get with the program or STFU.

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  63. Re. my comment, picked up by CH: “Higher class whites also benefit from communal ties with blue collar whites”

    Stephen King’s novels, particularly his earlier work, are remarkable not just for their obvious contribution to the horror genre, but also for an underappreciated and beautifully captured natural kinship between the gifted White child and his ordinary working class and utterly unremarkable best friend who nonetheless embodies a nobleness of spirit.

    One of the better examples is in the novella “The Body”, which was expanded into the movie “Stand By Me.

    Over on that New Yorker’s blog, I was quite serious (within the confines of a short comment) about the value that blue collar White culture offers upper class Whites. This value is particularly acute in formative boyhood years.

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    • I was quite serious (within the confines of a short comment) about the value that blue collar White culture offers upper class Whites. This value is particularly acute in formative boyhood years.

      My prole friends are some of my best friends. I’m decently smart but when my plumbing goes out at 2am, I don’t want to go on youtube to figure this stuff out. My Very upper middle class upbringing didn’t teach me plumbing, electrical, drywall, or carpentry and yet my prole friends can do call of it. Now the goal is to learn the stuff at 30 almost any redneck can do.

      There’s a reason everyone loves the redneck on the walking dead.

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      • Funny you should mention…

        I myself worked both blue- and white-collar jobs all my life, starting out as a college grad of intellectual bent who, for economic reasons, became a tool and die man for a number of years before switching careers over to the white-collar STEM side of things and continuing that endeavor as a livelihood until early semi-retirement.

        But all along, I begrudged the high dollar amount charged for “prole” services when all-too-many of them weren’t all that competent in comparison with what they charged.

        And being at the mercy of others when there’s no water or no electric sticks in a man’s craw.

        Anyway, over the years, by boldly approaching things such as plumbing and wiring on my own home and car maintenance outside of computer-related gizmos, I’m able to pretty much take care of most things on my own… with a little help from Home Depot and YouTube, of course. .-)

        Point is, there are fewer feelings of satisfaction in this world when you’re able to keep the basement from flooding or have hot water when all your neighbors don’t even have lights.

        So, long story short, I HEARTILY encourage all you guys to do what it takes to learn some rudimentary tasks, like cutting and soldering copper pipe, adding some circuits to your fuse box, changing the brake pads on your car, etc., etc., etc.

        Be master of your own domain, men. (pun unintended… well, maybe a little).

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  64. The difference in vibe and social experience, not to mention volume, will feel like a slap across the face.

    One of my first lessons in diversity was in my late teens, US Army basic training. The average IQ of fellow trainees in my platoon was, I’d say, something below 100 for both White and Black soldiers, barring a tiny handful of very bright teenagers like myself. The difference between a White and a Black trainee was nonetheless stark.

    The prole Whites, despite not being upper middle class material, had — barring a few serious fuck-up outliers — an impressive natural sense of discipline and practical wisdom. The blacks…

    … here is an illustrative anecdote. A drill sergeant had something unexpected come up and told us sternly that we will be left alone in a break room for a considerable amount of time. This was a Godsend — a chance to nap, read letters from home, which we all carried in out BDU cargo pockets, to daydream, or to quietly talk with a buddy. A single minute of that was worth its weight in gold. The rub was that if any other instructor or cadre member found us fucking off like that, unsupervised, the situation would have been instantly rectified. Which is why our DS told us to be quiet while he’s away.

    And in no more than a minute, the blacks started jabbering. First it was subdued guffaws and chortles and then it became explosions of animated yelling. Those were immediately countered by Whites shushing them with hisses of “at ease the noise!”, so the Blacks would quiet down for a moment but then the wave of sound would quickly again rise and crest in loud bicker — again countered by the other half of the room shushing them. All of it ended up in a wild battle of jiggy-jabber crescendos and angry shushing.

    Within minutes some NCO who was passing down the hallway heard us though the door, burst in, and had us outside doing pushups on lava-hot asphalt.

    On another occasion, we sat through a class on small unit tactics, and what jumped out at me was the instructor’s statement that US Army has a very low level of noise discipline. Yeah.

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  65. THIS VIDEO, in the vignette’s staged interactions — body language, manner of talking — shows how a member of a talented White elite relates to an unremarkable and probably 90-IQ White person.

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  66. on July 28, 2014 at 4:52 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    What you’re writing here is clear as night and day. My IQ is between 2 and 3 SDs above the white mean and I still have more in common with typical white people than intelligent blacks.

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  67. The Western World was at it’s glorious zenith when the average white guy had an IQ less than 90(if we adjust for the Flynn Effect). So it’s …..complicated.

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  68. CH and the most of the commenters here either have poor reading comprehension or are willfully misrepresenting Lions statement. He said

    “A 90-IQ white is a lot more like a 90-IQ black than he or she is like a 115-IQ white.”

    Instead of addressing what is actually being said here, CH goes off on some tangent comparing 90IQ blacks with 90IQ whites claiming them different.
    Arguing against a position that the “IQ fetisher” never actually took as a means of discrediting him.
    Lion never said that loser blacks are the same as loser whites.
    He is saying that winner blacks and winner whites have more in common than winner whites have with loser whites.
    If you disagree with this, at least address what is actually being said.

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  69. Reblogged this on Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar and commented:
    Culture arises from genetics.

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  71. You obviously have never met guidos, who are white but behave as poorly as blacks do.

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    • i’ve met guidos and no they don’t behave as poorly as blacks. stop lying about this. btw, guido is not a synonym for white prole. there are more things in heaven and earth…

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    • So much for the oft-cited affinity between Jews and Italians.

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    • South of the MD-PA state line, there are no Guidos. White proles are blond rednecks. Come visit the inner suburbs of south Baltimore. Tough bastards abound, but despite some superficial whiggerisms, they are nothing like blacks.

      [CH: lamb of the blogosphere has no experience with gentiles who aren’t either jersey shore guidos or effeminate manhattan SWPLs. this is why he conflates his generic category “white proles” (aka “white gentiles”) with the muscled guidos he despises.]

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  72. Ethnic Chinese have created a few enviable 1st world enclaves – Hong Kong, Singapore, and Taiwan – but, for whatever reason, they have been able to scale it yet. As Chinese population goes up, corruption levels rise monotonically. Pull up the numbers on Transparency International and you’ll see.

    So, a few million Chinese immigrants might be a big plus. But even the Chinese haven’t figured out how to have a prosperous, modern country with 50 million Chinese, let alone a billion of them.

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  73. A roomful of white people will organically form a particular social dynamic that is quite different than that formed by a roomful of black people, even controlling for IQ.
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    ^^But this statement is meaningless absent context and time. During WW2, “a roomful of white people” determined the systematic mass murder of over 11 million white human beings, most women and children. More recently (and politely) “roomfuls of white people” perpetrated one of the biggest financial frauds of all time, doing such “polite white” things as securitizing millions of weak or bad loans taken out by white people and certifying them with AAA ratings. They were so good that hundreds of thousands of white people lost their homes, or were driven into bankruptcy and the US economy almost tanked. Gosh… we need more such roomfuls of white people as “role models”?

    And who says “a roomful of black people” will be off “wilding”? Anyone ever attend one of those buttoned down affairs in black churches, “roomfuls” of people- and tens of thousands of “roomfuls”? They are quite boring actually. And who says black kids in school are “behaving wildly different”? The link proffered as “proof” is cherry-picked anecdote from an embittered (and obscure) white blogger on a bad school. Sure said school had problems, but as others note- most of the mayhem in those schools is committed by a small minority (See David Kennedy’s book Don;t Shoot). To say that all black kids are behaving so “wildly different” is sheer nonsense. White “role models” like the Irish show similar or worse behavior in urban schools during their era of urbanization.

    But let’s look at white kids who are supposedly so much calmer, so much in fact that they should not be blamed for oh say murdering over 15 other white kids in nice white places like Newton, Mass. Then there were those nice white kids at Columbine, so calm and collected.. real “role models” for black kids..

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