Are Beta Males Responsible For Feminism?

Here’s a theory which I don’t think has been expressed elsewhere, because it seems on the surface to challenge long-held conventional wisdom among the pro-truth, anti-feminist crowd that feminism was the result of an unruly alliance between alpha males seeking to enlarge their pool of attractive, single women and ugly omega females seeking separate status whoring avenues where they wouldn’t have to compete with married mothers on their turf.

Most avowed feminists and feminist leaders are dog ugly, so that part of the alliance rings true. But what if it was beta males, rather than alpha males, who were the other prime movers of Boomer feminism? (Boomer feminism was the beginning of the really warped variety of feminism that supplanted suffrage and Prohibition.) Did beta males enjoin the feminist sabotage of civilization because they thought it would cramp the style of alpha males? The betas probably didn’t grasp the long-term consequences of their project, but crippling their competition was the short-term goal they had in mind when they allied with the femfreaks. They were probably thinking (beneath the layers of socially presentable equalese), “Aha, elevating women to positions of power will help kick out those entrenched alpha males and level the male playing field. More poosy for us!”

Poor pathetic beta male feminists. Little did they realize that helping women become economically self-sufficient and freed from the “slavery” of marriage allowed them to ignore betas for the sexy alphas promising nothing but a good time. The one bit of leverage beta males bring to the sexual market table — their emotional and financial provisions — they trashed in a fit of spite against the jocks they hated in high school.

That’s my theory. I think it makes sense in light of the whiny resentment modern “male feminists” like John Scalzi reveal toward incorrigible charmers who defy the logic of gender politics and not only suffer no consequences for their impudence, but profit from it.





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  1. it’s almost like they extended the bad-boy-period of women decades further than they could previously afford. used to be a lot of late-twenties, early-thirties girls were ‘done’ with bad boys. no more. and bitter betas like that refuse to change with the times.

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 9:41 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 9:49 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 10:19 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • Those people are dual citizens or already emigrated decades ago.

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      • Are other people finding that WordPress seems to be eating replies at a record rate these days?

        Or maybe it’s that the Mossad has ordered the NSA to intercept our replies and destroy them?

        Really weird.

        Lately, half or more of the stuff that I try to post here just seems to disappear into the ether.

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      • That’s the spirit!

        When in doubt, always blame the Jews, just in case you haven’t already shown how pathetic you are.

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      • “I Had Me A Girl”

        I had me a girl
        Who taught me those things
        A young man should know
        Down, down on my knees
        I’d beg and I’d plead
        To learn a little bit more
        Oh that woman taught me to pray
        I saw Heaven every day
        Lord, she could
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        I had me a girl
        Like cigarette smoke
        She came and she went
        I slipped through his hands
        To my back door man
        Under his chin
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        But for all her wandering ways
        She could
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    • In terms of “epi-cycles”, you gotta figure that the previous great peak of influence for the beta males came shortly before 1914.

      At that point, the USA hadn’t had a major conflict since 1865, and the UK hadn’t had a major conflict since basically 1815.

      At the opposite extreme, the last great nadir for beta male influence would probably have been circa the mid-1950s, as the Korean conlict was winding down and the West began tiring of warfare in general..

      I just don’t see the guys in the intervening years – who had suffered the poisonous gas trench warfare in WWI or who had stormed the beaches of Normandy and Iwo Jima in WWII or who had lost limbs to frostbite in the mountains of Korea – I just don’t see those guys putting up with any of this lunatic bulldyke feminazi anti-Civilizational anti-Species anti-Life horseshit.

      Now I’ve got lots of problems with Michael “Savage” Wiener, but one thing he keeps pointing out in his commentary is that normal folk are damned foolish to overlook the profoundly deleterious effects of all these pharmaceuticals which abnormal folk are consuming by the boatload.

      And that would be the other really huge epi/meta/uber influence which shouldn’t be ignored – all these damned Birth Control hormones being urinated back into the water supply, all these dairy/cattle hormones showing up in our milk & beef [dittoes with eggs/poultry, pork, etc], pseudo-estrogens in plastics, gym fags on “T”, etc etc etc…

      And then there’s obesity – it definitely tends to make men more effeminate, and you gotta wonder whether [counterintuitively] obesity could also make women more masculine.

      Heck, you might even be able to argue that neonatal/pediatric antibiotics are keeping alive all sorts of biological freak shows whom Mother Nature would have culled from the herd as recently as about 100 years ago.

      And we haven’t even touched on the SSRIs and the methamphetamines…

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    • no matter the problem with society, it’s not the girls’ faults

      http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/09/social-media-internet-porn-teenage-girls

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      • Yup that’s the saddest part. of it all.

        When it all comes crashing down is it any question who will be blamed for it all?

        Not women, those precious, faultless creatures.

        Nope, when it’s all over it will be man killing man, brother killing brother, for the favor of a woman.

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  2. Other possibilities:

    1. Did they hate their fathers who were absent (busy re-building America post-war) and identify with their mothers?

    2. Did their fathers check out emotionally following a brutal Depression and war (thousand yard stare), leading to baby boomer resentment?

    3. Were the baby boomers propagandized by a growing Feminist (cultural Marxist) movement to sympathize with their poor, oppressed mothers in the kitchen at the expense of their rough and tumble, old-fashioned patriarchal fathers?

    Just a few thoughts.

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    • 3. Were the baby boomers propagandized by a growing Feminist (cultural Marxist) movement to sympathize with their poor, oppressed mothers in the kitchen at the expense of their rough and tumble, old-fashioned patriarchal fathers?

      This make sense. Cultural Marxism is just a particularly virulent form of liberalism. In its less extreme form, liberalism states that you shouldn’t offeeeeend anybody and hurt their feeeeelings, because, you know, bullshit is just as valid an opinion as truth. Unfortunately, when men walk on eggshells trying to apply that ideology to women, it blows up in their face, but they can’t understand why because of their commitment to the ideology.

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    • Young feminist guys today are just timid losers who go against the interests of their own sex (and humanity itself) in an attempt to gain acceptance from females.

      I remember when I was in university (recently) I’d see these White males with pins all over their jackets, backpacks, etc saying politically correct slogans like “Challenge sexism!”, “Challenge racism!”, etc. Almost without exception, they were in the bottom 20% in physical attractiveness and had an appearance of very low testosterone (often fat or bony, super narrow faces and shoulders, patchy facial hair, etc). An average looking guy using his body to say “look at me, I’m politically correct” would’ve been even more of a freak show in a sense.

      Meanwhile, the more competitive, high testosterone “alpha male” types are typically more interested in attaining high status among other guys and take their acceptance by females for granted as long as they remain this status.

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    • America needed rebuilding after WWII? How many bombs did the Germans drop on L.A. or Chicago? How ravaged was Nebraska from dozens of tank battles?
      Another History Channel special I missed……

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      • Couple of things here— 1) You strike me as either partially retarded (highly likely) or 2) a disingenous libtard cu-nt with no real understanding of history. 1 is best for you, 2 is worst for you.

        Even our token n!gger thwack LOL’d at the original post. What, then, is your angle? I’m confused…You want to posit what? That because we were drawn into a war in Europe we suffered no losses? America needed rebuilding because why, Skrillex hairstyle? (btw, it looks better on women other than you ladyboys, for real) because we committed most of our able bodied men to the European theater when we could have just been isolationists? Slant eyed small dicked Imperialists were tricked into attacking Pearl Harbor.

        Alternate history would have been best but sadly we cannot reclaim it now, can we? Hitler taking a more moderate approach in Europe. He could NEVER imagine the current eradication levels of European Genetic stock. He’d have extended the olive branch both east and west to eradicate Africa and Asia.

        But, what happened happened, so let’s not be up nights about it… and move on.

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      • Jay in DeeCee Y’all– Winner of the Mustache Boy Masturbator award of the day!

        You don’t have to masturbate to Mustache Boy posters alone any more in your Dee Cee garage any more You’re FAMOUS now– courtesy of Subway Masturbator.
        You’re a WINNER, Dee Cee!!!

        –for your exquisite revisionist historical fiction idea:

        Missed Opportunities: “If Only Hitler Had Been A Little Nicer!”

        Maybe if he only shoved howling, terrified little girls over 10 into the cyanide ovens, instead of all he could find. A kinder, gentler Uncle Hitler.

        And yet, despite your disappointment, you wisely suggest we move on from this great disappointment. What gravitas.

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      • Godwin’s!

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      • I am happy someone wrote a rule so I can violate it. Also, thanks for reminding me, so I can feel secure that someone KNOWS I violated the “rule”, and so I will continue violating it with more joy that I am against this “rule”.

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      • Just begun reading Sophie’s Choice. Its about how Meryl Streep has to decide which of her kids to put into the gas chambers of Auschwitz. (I always thought it was a romantic story about how she was deciding between a sexy alpha and a reliable beta;who knew about all this bad stuff?) Anyway the “gas chambers” were built in 1947,so I guess she had a fair amount of time to choose! Me,I wouldve hightailed it the fuck OUTTA there!)

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      • “Anyway the “gas chambers” were built in 1947”

        Says who, your backward ass white trash grandma?

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      • another nazi. why the fuck are you guys here. another pimply faced little nazi faggot.

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      • Says a member of the Tribe that practices open racialism and claims a birth right to its own ancestral homeland while denying that privilege to us and every other ethnic people on the planet. To spread the word about your soft genocide and lies and deceit. It goes hand in hand with the 30 million folks you People of Whom We May Not Speak killed in the Russian Empire. We won’t mention your slow motion usurpation of Palestine as well or the control of our foreign policy to get us to fight your wars for you. Or your relentless efforts to undermine our culture and society. If the tribe weren’t in the habit of stealing countries, no one would care. Besides, this is nothing compared to the horseshit about us the Tribe likes to dish out through their media empires, so if you can’t stand the heat of your own making, I might add, get out of the kitchen.

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      • One correction Carlos, its ” supposed ancestral homeland “. There much better.

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      • all good MBMs! All racist creep posts are granted free entry into the Subway Masturbator Paranoid Hater competition. Entries are judged on (1) Jealousy (2) Bizarre HIstory rewrite attempts (3) Overall virulence of hatred for people you don’t even know.

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      • My favorite part is the strong need for bizarre history rewrite. Haha!

        I would add, (4) years of pussy absence causing mental frustration and resentment of imaginary people who have lots of pussy, to the point mental disorder overtaking the faculties.

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      • “Says a member of the Tribe that practices open racialism and claims a birth right to its own ancestral homeland while denying that privilege to us and every other ethnic people on the planet.”

        How are they denying you? Are you German? Go back to Germany. Go back to Europe. Who says Germany can’t be Aryan?

        America wasn’t founded as a home for one race, though. Yes, it was established by whites so they should control it, but aside from that, it’s not the purpose of America, and most definitely not her purpose to be an Aryan haven. Seriously, why not go back to Germany? There, you can definitely claim ownership, not in America. You need a lesson on Independence.
        .

        “It goes hand in hand with the 30 million folks you People of Whom We May Not Speak killed in the Russian Empire.”

        Your beloved Russians killed their own kin. Stop blaming others for your atrocities, and stop trying to rewrite history. No decent historian says the Jews are responsible, except antismemites like K MacDonald. Deal with that fact.
        .

        “We won’t mention your slow motion usurpation of Palestine as well or the control of our foreign policy to get us to fight your wars for you”

        Any more hallucinations up your ass?
        .

        “If the tribe weren’t in the habit of stealing countries, no one would care.”

        How do you know history so well, do tell!! I am impressed. You must have been such a good student when you weren’t getting those BJ, eh?

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      • “One correction Carlos, its ” supposed ancestral homeland “. There much better.”

        I know you are one of those stupid Poles, but the level to which you sink with each thread, is frightening. If you say Israel is not the land of the Jews then you are also negating all of Christianity, since Jesus was a Jew and he was born in Israel among the Jews. Therefore, no matter how much a stupid Poles tries to rewrite history, he can’t.

        And, BTW, you really have no business being here, in America. Last time I checked, America wasn’t founded by stupid Poles, or a haven for them.

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      • You’ve obviously never heard of General Casimir Pulaski, the father of the American Cavalry. There is a statue of him on a horse in full Lancer uniform on Pennsylvania Avenue, around the 1800 block. He was a major Revolutionary War commander.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_Pulaski

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      • One, doesn’t prove the rule. There was also Copernicus, but he doesn’t mean Poles are smart. They’re usually as dumb as a stone.

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      • on September 29, 2013 at 6:32 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        >> We won’t mention your slow motion usurpation of Palestine

        The colonialist Arabic speakers only arrived in Levant in the late AD 690 ‘s.

        Arabic is ONLY indigenous in…. Arabia. North Africa is Berber land, not Arabic.

        In 1the AD 1490’s, you cleared the Moors from your Spanish land….. we are doing the same with our Hebrew land.

        Careful not to bother us, we might send the Norsk people back to the Volga, and give those lands to the indigenous Saami. The Frogs will be sent to New Orleans (to interbreed with the New Zimbabweans) and Gaul will be returned to the indigenous Basques.

        No need to fuck with the worshippers of Prince Charles (he who dumped Diana so he could get marry an antique double-bagger). They are voluntarily converting their country into the western-most suburb of Karachi

        The Buddhists of Myanmar are learning from us, not you. They have already started clearing their homeland of the wetback Bengali Muslims.

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      • Compared to Germany’s level of devastation, he has a very valid point. We upgraded after the war and the depression. Germany and much of Europe had to completely rebuild.

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      • @Jay
        “But, what happened happened, so let’s not be up nights about it… and move on.”

        Hit-ler in life and in death is Europe’s punishment, because anyone who hates the Jews ends up also killing is own kind, and God makes sure he is also a curse to his kind. Never fails, this simple rule of reality.

        So, if I were you, I wouldn’t lament this monster. You probably don’t have eyes to see this. So at least consider that if God wanted Hit-ler to win he would have. Speaks volumes, the fact he lost.

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      • Everything that Hit-ler promised in Mein kampf he didn’t keep. The only thing he kept is killing the Jews. He even made a treaty with the communists, the ones he supposedly hated. In the end, he ended up destroying Europe. and for his evils, it’s still paying now.

        If Einstein didn’t leave to America, Germany would have had the A bomb in 1934. LOL! The white trash stupidity knows no bounds. Jew-haters hate the Jews so much, they don’t care if they shoot their own foot in the process. Or, was it God’s hand protecting the Jews, once again?

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      • Lily, we all know you long deeply for NZ kock. Don’t be ashamed it’s a common fantasy of many women.

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      • on September 29, 2013 at 5:18 pm haunted trilobite

        Funny how it’s quite acceptable for shylocks to offhandedly use the words ‘white trash’ in the kike-driven PC age

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      • Since this the only post by this so-called “Lily”, that allows me to reply, I will leave my comment here. In any case, according to multiple studies, Poland actually shows a relatively high intelligence quotient, at 106. Speaking of intelligence, I am sorry, but I think your posts are rather difficult to read. I am, especially, referring to your first sentence (Are you the Polish?). They also appear emotionally driven. In any case, I think there is a strong correlation between access to education/environment and the relational output. Your capacity to regurgitate seemingly idiotic/dull archetypes proves to me that your incapable of the type of intellectual engagement worth reading. In fact, the idea that you repeatedly engage other ridiculous posts, here, lends to this fantastic story about ignorance and even, blatant stupidity. In short, your capacity to “try” to insult an entire group of people is hardly based in fact. Of course, this is the Internet, so it is probably more likely that more people can easily demonstrate their mental deficiencies/ineptness with less resistance than a lecture hall, salon, coffee shop, or bowling alley (lol)(where there are higher barriers to access). That said, unless these types of people have seen the trees from outside the forest, I might suggest these types stay inside the proverbial forest, where they belong. I really think there are too many people that interact within these types of forum, yet do absolutely nothing in their real lives. Now, if you are somehow able to respond to this comment, it is possible that you finally received the attention you may likely crave.

        You do also realize, that there is no proof that Germany would have developed the first atomic bomb if Einstein failed to flee Germany. Thankfully, Einstein wrote Roosevelt about the apparent danger of an advanced type of weaponry that the Germans looked to develop i.e. atomic bomb . However, it was the commitment of resources and support that made the A – bomb development possible. The Germans attempted this after nuclear fission, only to abandon it due to other wartime commitments.

        I might also suggest a writing course and/or to refrain from Internet posting that would only offer you emotional gratification and temporary elevated self-esteem. I sometimes read and enjoy CH. However, these meaningless replies/tangents to them about archetypes e.g. racial/ethnic stereotypes adds little value to the typical discussion here. Before people attempt to assert some power via an Internet reply, they should first do so in the actual real world.

        If a beta male created any type of agenda, one should look at it from the perspective of a beta, no matter their ethnicity. Likewise, to declare that most Polish people are “dumb as stones” (or whatever the blank analogy you tried to create/write) is to merely suggest that you are possibly dumb as a stone. The saying, “it takes one to know one”, does seem to hold true. Of course, if you think you are qualified to assert/boast/brag/tout your Internet based intellectual
        superiority, than you are potentially a 1) racist, 2) hateful, 3) delusional. Your grammar and vocabulary do prove otherwise, to me, anyway. By the way, I know few successful people that carry themselves and interact with the Internet using your approach. They don’t have the time or they can’t extract enough meaningful resources from it e.g. money, sex.

        Last, I really did appreciate your comment to a response, which asked, as if somehow witty, “you must have been a good student when you weren’t getting those BJ?” or something close to that and equally unfunny. I suppose there is some insinuated belief, here, that this person is both stupid and has absolutely no sexual experiences. Or, that good students have no sex. Right. I suppose all HB 7s or better have the time to post multiple times here. In any case, despite the strong opposition to other ethnic groups apparent in the post you responded to, the comment about his historical aptitude and sex life is completely ad hominem and has nothing to do with his comment. I also think your comments do a strong disservice to people of Jewish ethnicity/religion. Please don’t try to represent them, especially with what is obviously, poor vocabulary, grammar and usage. They already proved that they are far more intelligent than you. By the way, there were a few million Polish Jews that died during the Holocaust.

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      • Yes after all the Germans did attack Pearl Harbour.

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  3. Makes sense, but I suspect the reasoning would have had less to do with consciously wanting to displace dominant alphas and more to do with the general beta mating “strategy.” Betas try to curry favor with women by supplicating and appeasing them. Self-defeating feminism seems like a natural extension of that tendency. “Women will love us when they see how committed we are to furthering their interests!”

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    • Beta males are liberal males who try to apply their warped ideology of never giving offense and treating all opinions equally to the mating game.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 10:47 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Actually John Scalzi has spent a lot of time insulting and offending true men like Heartiste.

        Liberal males spend a lot of time insulting conservatives, often employing obscenity. Do you have eyes and ears perchance? Ever use them?

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      • Since when have liberals treated all opinions equally??? They only claim they are tolerant. In practice they are highly intolerant of other viewpoints.

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      • Their brains are feminized. Arguing with a liberal is like arguing with a broad.

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 11:33 am North Vinlander

      You hit the nail on the head.

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    • Exactly. What I was led to believe in high school was, women who have leverage will demand a better bargain: kind and considerate treatment. Show how STRONG you are by restraining your macho impulse for instant gratification.

      But high school girls didn’t appreciate that, hmm!…OK well they are oppressed by the social scene. In college they’ll put the brakes on those Biff Tanners!

      Wait, no? Ok then when they’re in grad school/working/done riding the carousel, right?

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    • I think ve has the right of it here.

      The cultural Marxism critical theory bullshit dovetails quite nicely with the beta inclination to curry female favor.

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  4. on September 27, 2013 at 9:35 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    Feminism was created to transfer wealth from men to the central bankers/statists who are typically beta (beranke) in nature.

    Feminism is centered about the foundational myth and lie that men have oppressed women throughout all history.

    This lie/myth serves the erver-present mission of compensating women for their supposed oppression via money. And who will oversee the transfer of wealth from men to women? The central bankers/statists, who will, of course, receive a cut.

    Add up the trillions spent on divorce, welfare, child support, “sexual harrassment” programs/alwsuits, women’s studies departments/etc. and one can see how the central bankers/statists pocketed trillions while also laying claim to a man’s children (in addition to his wive’s asses and his assets zlzozlzoz) so as to raise them in a bernankiifed daycare system to teach them the Lie of the State, replcaing God the Father with Bernankelzozozozo the Banker.

    The Scalzis are the useful idiot betas who are jealous of true men and manhood and thus rage against them on their blogs. The central bankers/statists publish the Scalzi books so as to teach men that success = raging against manhood like their TV shows teach you to do.

    zlzozoozozoz

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 9:39 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      As men are the ones who create, build, invent, fight, build, invent, make, and create WEALTH, of course the bankers are going to create FEMINISM to go after the assets of men via divorce/sexual harrasment/welfare, as MEN have all the ASSETS while owmen only have their ASSES, and it is a lot easier to transfer assets (which appreciate in value) than it is to transfer women’s asses (which depricate in value with each and veery bernkifieatcionsz zlzozlzoz) zlzozozoozoz.

      Feminism allows the bernakez/tucck maxz rheyme sitwh goldman sax to desoul women in colleeg via sexcterly taped butcthezx, and reporrgram them to work for he fED, spy on men, seize his assets, and present them to ebenrkes nabnkers in divocre, alimony, child supportsz, teh divorce industdry complex lzozlzuzzkzli

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    • you switch keyboards recently? you’re running well over 90% non-dyslexic spelling here, i could barely read it

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 9:42 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozlzozoz i misplacedz my riatalaingssz prescictropoon da scool nurse gave me but do not worries because i found it and am felelimng much muchc betetersz! !lzozlzuzlzozzozl

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 9:46 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      IN TRADITIONAL WARFARE, THE CONQUERERS WOULD KILL THE MEN, SEIZE AND ENSLAVE AND SLEEP WITH THE WOMEN AND SEIZE THE CHILDREN AND TEACH THEM TO BE LOYAL TO THE NEW KING.

      IN MODERN WARFARE, THE CNETRELA BENRKEKE BANKSTERS USE FEMINISM TO SLEEP WITH AND BUTTOCCK DA WOMENZ IN COLLEGE, ENSLAVING THEM IN DEBT AND FORCING THEM TO WORK IN THIER CORPORATIONSZ, SEIZING THE CHILDREN AND TEAHCING THEM TO BE LOYAL TO BENEKEKENKE IN STATE SCHOOLS, AND SLOWLY KILLING THE MEN IN DULL, BORING, DEBT-SLAVING JOBS, ROBBING THEM OF THEIR DIVINE RIGHT TO A VIRGINAL WIFE, FAMILY, AND PROPERTY.

      lzozozlzozllzo

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 9:54 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        IN TRADITIONAL WARFARE, THE CONQUERERS WOULD KILL THE MEN, SEIZE AND ENSLAVE AND SLEEP WITH THE WOMEN AND SEIZE THE CHILDREN AND TEACH THEM TO BE LOYAL TO THE NEW KING.

        IN MODERN WARFARE, THE CNETRELA BENRKEKE BANKSTERS USE FEMINISM (DIVORCE/WELFARE/SEXUAL HARRASMENT MYTHS) TO SLEEP WITH AND BUTTOCCK DA WOMENZ IN COLLEGE, ENSLAVING THEM IN DEBT AND FORCING THEM TO WORK IN THIER CORPORATIONSZ, SEIZING THE CHILDREN AND TEAHCING THEM TO BE LOYAL TO BENEKEKENKE IN STATE SCHOOLS, AND SLOWLY KILLING THE DIVORCED MEN IN DULL, BORING, DEBT-SLAVING JOBS TO FUND THEIR WIVES PRESENT AND FUTURE BUGTCCOCKINGSZ AND CHIRLDREN THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO RAISE AND TEACH, ROBBING THEM OF THEIR DIVINE RIGHT TO A VIRGINAL WIFE, FAMILY, PROPERTY, AND LEGACY CELEBRATED IN THE B GREAT BOOKS FOR MEN< WHICH THEY USED FMEISNSIMZ FEMINSM TO DECONSTRCUT DEBAUCH AND DESTORY DESTORY ZLZOZOZOZOZO.

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    • There are no bigger betas on the planet than the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Then you can spread their corrupt ideas down the ladder for the other betas. Betas for Satan.

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    • GBFM, I don’t really get your obsession with Bernanke. He’s a middle class kid, very bright, yes he’s Jewish, who surely with the help of connections (academic success like that requires it) rose to become a tenured professor at Princeton and Chairman of the Fed Board of Governors.

      You can disagree with his monetary policy actions, but he’s a man who rose above his station using his wits and talent. And every time he talks off the topic of monetary policy, he shows very traditional family values. There’s no reason to think his wife is going to take the kids and sue him for child support. Sounds kind of alpha to me.

      He has been a tool of the corporate interests and the status quo with various unconventional actions to prop up existing big boys, but he’s also helped a lot of people keep their houses with his extensions of the zero interest rate policy.

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      • “He’s a middle class kid, very bright, yes he’s Jewish, who surely with the help of connections (academic success like that requires it) rose to become a tenured professor at Princeton and Chairman of the Fed Board of Governors.”

        Well, he received 1600 on the SATs – a perfect score. So, he’s no dummy.
        .

        Anyway, you’re right about Bernanke. He’s not that bad personally, and he did some good things. But the most important thing to remember is that they all do the same thing. The new chairman will continue the same FED policy when Bernanke leaves. It hardly changes from chairman to chairman.

        Same thing with presidents. Most of them follow each other’s polices because the real US government is behind the scenes. Some people call it the shadow government, but I don’t like that term. It’s more like a backbone that keeps the government steadfast and unchanging. From administration to administration, almost all US polices remain fixed.

        Lashing out against Bernanke is as childish as these stupid conspiracy theories getting started by shills for the consumption of ignoramuses.

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 7:26 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 8:10 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • Ron Paul is an idiot, the same as internet clown. He’s a hasbeen. What does he know about monetary policy anyway? A bunch of hogwash he picked up from blogs that support him, like Lew Rockwell and Jeff Rense. They constantly trash America and call for anarchy on those websites, while building up our enemies. They’re filled with conspiracy theory like UFOs bullshit and anti-Jew nonsense. The articles on their websites show how demanded they are.

        Regarding the internet clown, what else is there to say that he doesn’t say about himself?

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 9:33 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Lily,

        Why do you hate Jews like Ludwig von Mises?

        mises.org

        Are you an anti-semite?

        The GBFM is Jewish. Stop the hate.

        Honor Great Jews like Moses and Jesus and Mises:

        http://mises.org/daily/author/392/

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      • I think I just lost some intelligence reading this comment. “…steadfast and unchanging”. Lolz. You remind me of this one Harvard professor.

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 7:22 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Well David,

        He never really spoke out against the foundational immorality of the FED which empowers a small sect of men to create money and steal from all. Now did he?

        Do you like it up the butt too?

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 7:25 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 7:28 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Hoe does he show traditional family values when talking of monetary policy?

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 8:09 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozoz

        zlzozooozoz

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  5. on September 27, 2013 at 9:37 am Hugh G. Rection

    I’d say that’s a good bet. Who’s more likely to take a woman bullshit seriously and give in to her demands? The beta.

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    • Or if you believe getting lots of poosy makes you an “alpha”…then the alphas are just as beta.

      Women are the gatekeepers to sex…so taking their bullshit tingles seriously and giving into her sexual demands seems as beta as taking their bullshit ideas seriously and giving into her monetary demands.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 11:05 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        earl is correct–the alpha is ruled by womenz butt and gina tingaleslzlzozo with eveyr word, every neg, every statement motived by the master butt and igina tingalallszllz.

        alphas are slaves to butt and gina tingalsllslzlz

        whereas jesus lived free

        lzozozoz

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 12:00 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        If your butt is tingling, you should probably go to the doctor. Butts aren’t supposed to tingle. You might have some pinworms or roundworms or something up in there…you really ought to get that looked at. Alpha or beta, there’s no reason for you to be a slave to butt tingles. They have medication that will take care of it for you.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 12:10 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzoozozo my dearest lost little lamb RappaccinisDaughter,

        waht da GBFM is sayig is that “alphas” speak and act so as to make a womenz butt and gina go tinzgzzlzlooozozzo so dat women offer them tehir butts and ginasas zlziuzizzk

        ergo, an “alphas” words and actions are dictaed to va a womans butt and gina tinzgzlzozlziuzzlzolzuzlzzo

        go forth RappaccinisDaughter, and be free as the truth sets ye free zllzzuizuzlzzozlo

        lzlzlzozlzoz

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      • Learning about how women operate, and being a slave to it are two different things.

        Though, from knowing enough alphas, I think you may have a point. Most betas who learned the game I know apply themselves wholeheartedly to the study, but the middling to low sex drive and high creativity takes their focus away from it eventually. Then it’s something they keep in the pocket for when it’s needed.

        Most natural alphas I know seem to be blown to and fro by the winds of queef. Having the option to get addicted to sex, they have to work very hard not to have their lives revolve around it. Like an exceptionally hot girl, almost everyone they ever met related to them sexually by default, either as a target or a competitor.

        So it is good to warn guys that there is not only a light, but an end to the tunnel of dark arts, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say that adjusting one’s behavior to optimize success makes anyone a slave more than learning to use utensils. Some though, would say that the use of utensils is a kind of slavery. In that case, all social training is.

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      • I think Nicole is right. At least, she describes my approach to the subject. I’m not even planning to sleep with any different women in the foreseeable future.

        Game makes married life a bit more tolerable and understandable. My primitive version of it was useful in snagging the wife but that was a long time ago.

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      • You’re a stupid bitch. You know damn well what he meant ho.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 12:45 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Am I stupid, or do I know what he meant? You have to pick one or the other. It can’t be both at the same time.

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      • I believe that “Earl” is a woman.

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      • Heh…way to go the literal route, lass. How very logical of you.

        He could say spinal or brain tingles…that isn’t as attention grabbing as butt or gina.

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      • Fappacinis’ daughter. Quit hatin cause a player has it all on lock.

        Ol swarthy.

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      • Rappa,theres something a bit off-putting aboutcha! You bring to mind the famous epigram by that guy at that place: I do not like thee Dr. Fell/The reason why I cannot tell/But this I know and know full well/I do not like thee Dr. Fell. Now now no tears I dont mean it. Its just that you seem a bit shrewish,not my cup o tea if ya feel me.

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 7:32 am RappaccinisDaughter

        I’m the root of all that’s evil, yeah. But you can call me “Cookie.”

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  6. Wasn’t marriage (and other religious restrictions of female sexuality) invented by betas in the first place? Like in “one pussy for everyone, instead of all the pussy for a selected few, to keep us all from going apeshit.”

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  7. I’m just going to go with Occam’s razor here.

    Increasingly modern technology allowed more women to enter the workforce and were thus emboldened by the prospect of independence and self-sufficience. Thus the snowball began rolling.

    Beta conspiracies to overthrow alpha overlords? Lol. Yeah, they hatched that one late at night on internet forums.

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 9:57 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      Hey Sad Clown,

      Have women created more wealth or debt in the workplace?

      If you have a fucking brain, you’ll see that overall, the West has created far more debt than wealth since feminism was instituted, you dumb fuck. Not to mention the fifty million+ aborted souls, which, unless i miss my guess, makes sad clown a happy clown.

      zlozozozozo

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      • Lol. C’mon GBFM. Where did I say women in the workplace was a good thing? Or anything about debt?

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 10:04 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Hey Sad Clown,

        If you have a cock in your ass, against your will, and you yell out, “Help, I have a cock in my ass against my will!” We will laugh at you and say, “what silly conspiracy theorist sad clown is zlzozoozozozozzooz obsessed with buttehxt and always complaining lzozlzozo where’s your tinfoil hat sad clown? put it on your butt!”

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 10:18 am Days of Broken Arrows

        “Sad Simon Lives Again.”

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 10:19 am Days of Broken Arrows

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      • > “If you have a fucking brain, you’ll see that overall, the West has created far more debt than wealth since feminism was instituted, you dumb fuck. Not to mention the fifty million+ aborted souls, which, unless i miss my guess, makes sad clown a happy clown.”

        Shit damn, GBFM lays down The Law.

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      • Hey GBFM, don’t forget this oldie-but -goodie–

        http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~iversen/PDFfiles/LottKenny.pdf

        “Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns
        for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing
        over time as more women took advantage of the franchise.”

        Should be mandatory reading in HS and college history classes, yes?

        I’ve tried posting this a couple times before but keeps getting not-posted, maybe because of the link.

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      • on September 29, 2013 at 8:26 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzlzozozlzozoz yah

        and READ DA GREAT BOOKSZ FOR MENZ

        which the bankers hired FEMINSIST EMPLOYEESZ

        to deocustsntruct and dispalce

        zlzozo

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 10:06 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      Sad Clown
      “I’m just going to go with Occam’s razor here,” so as to cut off the balls of other men so as to level the playing field for sad clownz lzozlzozozoz

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    • This one never, ever, ever gets old:

      “This paper examines the growth of government during this century
      as a result of giving women the right to vote. Using cross-sectional
      time-series data for 1870–1940, we examine state government expenditures and revenue as well as voting by U.S. House and Senate
      state delegations and the passage of a wide range of different state
      laws. Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns
      for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing
      over time as more women took advantage of the franchise. Contrary to many recent suggestions, the gender gap is not something
      that has arisen since the 1970s, and it helps explain why American
      government started growing when it did.”

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    • Actually, mainly feminism allowed more women to enter into the workforce, but keep hiding your head in the sand. Women were still mainly house wifes in the 50’s, even though the technology was already relatively highly advanced.

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      • Besides, technology makes it much easier to work from home. At some point, home business would have become the norm for women who wanted to have children and still supplement their incomes, had it not been for the feminist ideal being linked to working outside.

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      • Good point. Technology was supposed to make everyone’s life more pleasant and easy. Isn’t it funny how the more technologically advanced we get, the less freedoms we have and the more we work. Dare i say it, seems almost intentional.

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      • Few if any of us could begin to work as hard as say a European peasant in the early 20th century or before. Everything you use daily and buy in a store had to be made by hand.

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      • That might be true, but by then the industrial revolution was already in full swing. A middle ages peasant, on the other hand, worked no where near the amount we do today. As far as the basic necessities of life go, its a matter of relative perspective, can you, for instance, handle a life with no Internet, or would that be primitive living ?

        http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/08/29/why-a-medieval-peasant-got-more-vacation-time-than-you/

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      • That made their work meaningful. How much meaning is there in a mcjob?

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    • correct. the conspiracy theorist nazi lovers here are best pitied. maybe one day they will get some pussy,

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      • Thats so right, cause jooish guys are know world over for getting unlimited amounts of pussy. They are the paragon of alpha males. Go back to your kibbutz before you intellectually hurt yourself.

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      • If you only knew. Chicks dig it when you take their potential progeny seriously. Funny that.

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      • Most of them are NZs because they don’t have pussy. See, becoming a NZ is the next best thing to pussy. At least you have an outlet to dump all your no-pussy frustrations onto. Pussy empty=NZ filled.

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      • Every girl loves a fascist. A boot in the face from a brute like you, oh Panzer man Oh Panzer man… Those words are truer than you’re comfortable to admit. You Israelis have made a fine art of it.

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      • Didn’t I say you’re good at hallucinating?

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      • Another sale on Squid Ink at Meijer’s this week?

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  8. “Did beta males enjoin the feminist sabotage of civilization because they thought it would cramp the style of alpha males?”

    So a group of lesser males enlisted corrupt women to help them topple the patriarchy….so that they could be top dog.

    I’d go with GBFM on this one…bernake and his minion bankers were betas or even omegas and set up a system to where they would be alphas in getting everything. They probably think of themselves as gods.

    Now you average joe with no testosterone down the street…he probably is not part of the self sabotage because he doesn’t know any better.

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  9. If any beta males ever thought that, they were really misguided. There’s a lot of resistance outside the manosphere to the idea that the current configuration of society benefits beta females and alpha males. Mainly, I think it is based on a confused notion of what an alpha male is. To a lot of people, the definition of an alpha male is just who is attractive to lots of women. If a guy is attractive to women but marries someone when young and spends his whole life with her, he really is more beta than alpha. An alpha male is really just someone who lacks the desire to get women by offering to play the long term provider role and relies on looks and game instead. If you don’t understand that the definition of alpha and beta is more about how they go about getting women than whether they can get women, then you won’t be able to understand any discussions about societal changes that use those terms.

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  10. This is an interesting theory. When I have been in UK I am often surprised by how many western men agree with feminism. It’s very odd, I heard a man say his wife was the boss in their house.
    It seems some of them like feminism, but I really don’t understand why because they are not benefiting from it. and why would men want women to climb the career ladder and take their jobs??? Maybe they are unable to fully understand the damage feminism has done, or maybe they prefer to remain ignorant.

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  11. Contraceptives are responsible for feminism and, ultimately, the decline of the white race. Women naturally, without any birth control, end up having about 8 children, maybe even more, throughout their lifetime. A woman always pregnant and/or breastfeeding an infant her entire life is not able to have a ‘career’ or any of that silly nonsense. Her own biology determines her role in life, the role of mother (more specifically stay-at-home mother), and she can only be ‘independent’ with the invention of artificial birth control technologies. The IUD, condoms, and birth control pills were all invented by J-E-W-S.

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    • Second on the contraceptives….without those…the spread of evil would be much slower.

      You can thank the fevered ideas of Margaret Sanger for that.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 10:14 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        zlzoozozo

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      • If that’s true then the Jewish leaders really are dumb.

        Spread deviant behavior amongst the Gentiles but don’t engage in it themselves so that their religion benefits? They are nothing more than the Pharisees in Jesus’s time who put burdens on everyone else while they went through unscathed.

        Perhaps they skipped this part of the NT.

        http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23&version=NASB

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      • Another reason is to pull the Christian Churches’ legal legitimacy out from underneath them. If the state policy of encouraging homosexuality is at odds with church teachings, then the church becomes an enemy of the state and is open to destruction by the state. The Church effectively becomes an outlaw.

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      • Um. They skipped the entire NT. that’s the point. They don’t grow up being taught not to love money. So they all become money changers. All of them.

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      • Whatever the nefarious effects of my distant relatives on the white race in other respects, I can assure you they swallow their own poison with this gay marriage scheisse.

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 10:07 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      zlzoozozozoz

      lzozozozozoz

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    • My fam love j

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 4:04 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

      >> The IUD, condoms, and birth control pills were all invented by J-E-W-S.

      Vacuums always get filled. If the environment consists of men who focus on becoming couch potatos in front of Monday Night Football, then a parasitic creature will evolve that is able to feed of of their laziness and stupidity.

      The next Chair of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve will probably end up being Ms Jewess Yellen. Because the entirety of the gentile male competition is Monday-Night-Couch-Potato-ing, and the female gentiles are trying to become the Miley Cyrus.

      If the shoe fits – wear it!

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      • That just means your efforts have born fruit. We are here to slow or reverse that trend. Your people are creating a new vacuum and will also see it filled against your best interests.

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      • No. You don’t understand. The Jews are doing the right thing without any effort. Additionally, you can’t reverse without shooting yourself in the foot, and it will not backfire either. There is only a very small minority of smart people around. Gentiles will not be successful if they are resentful and full of hate. We need more people like Glen Beck. The guy has persevere and smarts. He is not lazy like some of you antisemties are. He works hard and he doesn’t complain about the Jews supposedly taking away his opportunities. Look at Hammer. His whole life revolves around posting slander against the Jews. Of course, he has nothing to offer the world except resentment. I wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t on food stamps either. How can he be any competition to the Jews? Of course, he has to post a bunch of bullshit here to feel accomplished.

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      • ” Because the entirety of the gentile male competition is Monday-Night-Couch-Potato-ing, and the female gentiles are trying to become the Miley Cyrus.”
        I dont know about that, perhaps they are getting more beta but they(and the rest of the population) are getting more educated:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States
        “Since 1983 the percentage of people graduating from high school has increased from 85% to 88%. The greatest increases in educational attainment were documented in the 1950s, 60s and 70s. In the 1950s and much of the 1960s high school graduates constituted about 50% of those considered adults (25 and above). For young adults aged between 25 and 29, the percentage of high school graduates was roughly 50% in 1950 versus 90% today.[2]”

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    • oh its the JEWS. how original. fuck off nazi faggot. maybe get the computer, stop jerking off and get laid might make you less bitter, although chicks dont dig 110 lb fags like you

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      • everyone I don’t like is NAZI, you all just need to get laid.

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      • They don’t just need to get laid; they also need to fix their broken teeth so they don’t look like white trash when applying for work in the Piggly Wiggly. Fucking losers.

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    • Fairly reliable birth control and abortion has been around for thousands of years. The only place where this knowledge was somewhat lost for awhile is Europe.

      Women had and have lots of babies because they want to. It’s a good thing to be a mother. For many, being a mother did not stop them from going on to do other great things as elders, when their time of raising children was done.

      What screwed women in the head in modern times was social, not technological.

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    • “The IUD, condoms, and birth control pills were all invented by J-E-W-S.”

      they invented lost of other things too, you moron, like polio vaccine, MRI machines, and hundreds of other health-related things. But I know the jealousy is eating you alive NZ.

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  12. Male weakness is the cause of all the problems that the West faces today.

    Christianity imposed a social structure on our barbarian ancestors that allowed unprecedented numbers of weak beta males to breed. For a time this worked, making society more civilized and shifting competition for mates from the military to the economic realm.

    But while a little bit of beta in a society is a good thing, a society that is too beta is in big trouble. Women’s suffrage occurred because too many men were extreme betas who were unable or unwilling to simply tell women “no”.

    The rise of game is a sign that we’ve reached peak beta, as men who are cursed with beta genes are forced to study and practice mannerisms and techniques that come naturally to alphas, in order to achieve reasonable levels of access to women.

    Game is the first sign that men in the West are recognizing the need to fight their beta genes return to a more barbaric, masculine way of life. But game alone will not be enough.

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 10:24 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      you stooopid stoopid beta fucktard!!! YOU HAVE IT EXACTLY BACKWARDSS YOU STUPID FUCKTRADITRY FUCKTARDZ!

      you write, “Christianity imposed a social structure on our barbarian ancestors that allowed unprecedented numbers of weak beta males to breed. For a time this worked, making society more civilized and shifting competition for mates from the military to the economic realm.”

      no you stupid FUCKTARD. Christianity imposed a social structure on our barbarian ancestors that allowed unprecedented numbers of ALPHA males (capabale of HONOR, MATH, POHILOOPSHY, AEXLATED ART, RELIGION) to breed. THATS WHY CHRIATAINAINTY EURPORE FUCKING ROCKED THE WORLD YOU STOUPID FUCK!

      The bankersz cenrtal bankerz got rid of CHIRTSINAITY so as to allow an unprecedented numbers of weak beta males to breed with slutty slutz wlefar slutz zlzooziuzzkzloz and grow the welfare state to suck assets from men to pay for the spawn of druggies, tattooed lsoer primeieteive beta males and gamma malesz lzozzizl

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      • “no you stupid FUCKTARD. Christianity imposed a social structure on our barbarian ancestors that allowed unprecedented numbers of ALPHA males (capabale of HONOR, MATH, POHILOOPSHY, AEXLATED ART, RELIGION) to breed.”

        Alpha males don’t need social structures to help them breed, they’re already good at breeding, that’s what makes them Alpha. Especially in barbaric societies where violence plays a role in the competition for mates.

        Beta males are losers of the sexual marketplace, they need social structures (like the banning of polygamy) to help them breed.

        Christianity took mates from alphas and gave them to betas, because it disallowed polygamy.

        Math, philosophy, art and religion are not necessarily the product of Alpha males. Nerds are often excellent at math, that doesn’t make them alpha.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 10:52 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        STOOPID FUCKTARD STIRKES AGAIN! just syain’ zlzozoozozoz

        lzizzlzozzozo stooopid fucktard just syain’ wwrites, “Alpha males don’t need social structures to help them breed, they’re already good at breeding, that’s what makes them Alpha.”

        there you have it folks

        stooopid fucktard just syain’ thinks that your typical gorilla is more alpha than Newton, Einstein, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the BEatles, the Rolling stones, and Henry Ford, all of whom needed social structures to breed.

        lzozozozozoz what a FUCKATRD lzozlzozoz just syain zlozolzoz

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 10:56 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        it’s “alpha’s” like “just syain'” who have butfucked true manhood and triumphantly labeled it “game” lzozolozozoz

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      • Yes you are right about that. And so I see why you reacted so strongly and immediately.

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      • Game just teaches nerdy betas how to behave like an alpha so that they can attract women. Behaving like an alpha means acting in a way that is kind of despicable, but that’s what women want.

        Your mistake is to believe that everything that is good is alpha. That’s obviously false. Nerds are not alpha just because they’re good at math. Nerds are beta because they’re unattractive to women and bad at fighting to obtain access to them.

        It’s a matter of maintaining a healthy balance between alpha and beta.

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      • I prefer to see it as an inducement to greater things. You have to get their foot in the door first.

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      • on September 28, 2013 at 1:39 pm haunted trilobite

        At least people have brought the realms of spirituality into the equation, rather than just wondering if it was a beta male ploy that went wrong. The course of Western society is being steered heavily by television, music, movies, computer games and media opinion.
        People in these spheres are worshipping demons. It’s widely known that devil worship is very common in the entertainment biz, and in upper echelons of society. Magus ritual sacrifice and wtichcraft allow demons to direct these people towards success, possibly at a large price. Feminine themes are obviously a gold mine these days, and that’s what is being pushed. What hope has a Christian of knowing why the world is becoming feminine, versus a satanist who studies entrails and has a demon hissing in his ear? Perhaps a very devout monk or someone who has devoted his life to prayer might be able to divine meaning from this chaos in front of us, but your average church-goer is watching the 7 deadly sins unfold before his eyes on a daily basis, and is knee-deep in them.
        I was observing a gang of what many would call alphas talk about weightlifting and what synthetic pre-workout drinks they’d take, before proceeding to drool over facebook photos of girls in their social sphere displayed on a computer. This open display of vanity and lust would have been extremely uncommon among alphas (who would have been all some variety of Christian, by the way) of 150 years ago and before that. Technology has fucked things up completely, so all sorts of societal abhorrations can manifest. ‘We’re on a highway to hell’ as ACDC said

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      • The Beatles and the Rolling Stones would have done just fine in a more barbaric, less civilized society.

        The other guys you listed are, essentially, nerds. Nerds are not attractive to women and they’re not good at fighting, so they rely on the assistance of social structures like monogamy to get mating opportunities that would otherwise be denied to them by big guys with clubs.

        Tolerating some nerdy betas gets you civilization, technology, etc. Tolerating too many nerdy betas gets you women’s lib, bronies, tumblr and mass immigration of alpha Somalians and Arabs.

        Your mistake is to assume that all that is good is alpha. But that’s obviously not the case. Game is based on mimicking alpha traits and is digusting… but it’s what women want.

        Some beta in a society is a good thing. It prevents you from living on Somalia. But too much beta and you get Sweden.

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      • “stooopid fucktard just syain’ thinks that your typical gorilla is more alpha than Newton, Einstein, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the BEatles, the Rolling stones, and Henry Ford, all of whom needed social structures to breed.”

        The comments system is eating my replies, so hopefully this isn’t a double post.

        The Beatles and the Rolling Stones are attractive to women, so they’d do fine in a more barbaric society. Ford may qualify as a leader of men, so I’ll exclude him from the analysis for now.

        The other guys you listed are, essentially, nerds. Nerds are not attractive to women and they are not good at fighting to secure mates. They’re betas. They need the assistance of social structures like enforced monogamy to mate, otherwise a big guy with a club will take their women for his harem.

        Your mistake is to assume that all that is good is alpha and all that is bad is beta. But that’s clearly wrong; game is a way of acting alpha and game basically encourages you to act in a way that is despicable… but it’s what women want.

        Some tolerance for betas in a society is a good thing. It gets you technology and civilization. A society that is too Alpha ends up like Arabia or Somalia. But a society that is too beta ends up like Sweden.

        You want to end up somewhere in the middle between those two extremes. Our pendulum has swung too far towards beta.

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      • A man’s value should not be determined by what women think of him…or even how many of them he can intice desire out of.

        If you have that mode of thinking…that is very beta. Letting the inferior sex determine who is the greatest among men. All they care about is getting some power they percieve a particular man has…and it doesn’t matter if it is true power or power you get from using game tactics.

        Men know the real score when it comes to other men.

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      • A man’s value is not determined by Alpha or Beta. Only a drooler like GBFM would think that every nerd needs to be Alpha to have value.

        But whether or not a man can easily obtain pussy determines whether or not he is Alpha. Therefore, many high achieving nerds are beta while many low achieving black guys are alpha.

        Obviously.

        Having a society that is shifted towards beta can be a good thing. Less violence, more order, social cohesion (betas are team players) and technological advance.

        But if a society keeps getting more and more beta, someday there will not be enough alphas left to tell women no. Then your society will collapse very rapidly as beta nice guys allow women to do anything they want.

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      • And seriously, from a woman’s point of view, a beta who knows how to put it down on the regular, and with some self respect, is better than an alpha. The beta is actually going to be there, and hitting it on the regular, which is good for a woman, especially when she’s past her prime. The alpha, unless he purposefully embraces some betatude, is not going to around and therefore stay relevant. Those kinds of alphas are rare, but betas with potential to be alpha enough are plentiful.

        Game is just the training on how to do this, that the last generation dropped the ball on.

        A guy doesn’t need to be the alpha male of the whole freaking world. He just needs to be alpha enough to lead one woman to make his babies and raise them right.

        Just because some young and somewhat transient guys’ focus is on the pickup doesn’t mean they won’t ever “graduate” to applying what they’ve learned to someone special.

        …but really, looking around at the U.S. and a rapidly “murkanizing” world, who is special anymore? If anything, game should teach men that a woman should have to earn special.

        I don’t see what’s wrong with that. Nobody here is being told not to pursue greatness and keep the hunt for occasional relief without getting one’s head chewed off or caught in a trap, in perspective.

        Personal anecdote warning, my Dad is would-be cult leader level alpha, and the kind of guy he raised me to want to marry is basically a beta with a backbone. Whatever mistakes my parents may have made, I think this was the best thing about my upbringing. This is one reason I’m a proponent of game.

        …but maybe I’m missing something. I’m always willing to question things, even my own beliefs.

        You will have to explain to me a bit more simply what you feel is wrong with teaching guys the nuts and bolts of bangin’.

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      • Just sayin’ and GBFM are partly disagreeing here because they don’t define alpha and beta in the same way. I think you would both agree that the decline in monogamy is not good for society, right? Whether the guys women are picking now are labeled “alpha” or “beta”, those guys are not usually the guys who would be able to maintain an advanced technological society. The guys women choose now are good at coming up with clever pick up lines at the bar, not the science and math nerds that our standard of living depends on.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 2:51 pm gunslingergregi

        our standard of living is not that high man
        you got two people working and then fighting bout housework and got to take care of kids where the time to have a quality of life

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 9:10 pm Ed the Department Head

        I more or less agree with you.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 12:25 pm North Vinlander

        retarded

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      • no you stupid FUCKTARD. Christianity imposed a social structure on our barbarian ancestors that allowed unprecedented numbers of ALPHA males (capabale of HONOR, MATH, POHILOOPSHY, AEXLATED ART, RELIGION) to breed. THATS WHY CHRIATAINAINTY EURPORE FUCKING ROCKED THE WORLD YOU STOUPID FUCK!
        ———————————————————————————

        So the christian knights acted like this during the crusades?

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    • I was going to reply in a critical manner to this but GBFM beat me to it.

      I’ll just say this: Liberalism makes beta males. Not Christianity.

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      • Unfortunately the Liberals have infected the Churches too.

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      • Liberalism destroys established hierarchies. They want to lead or have their ideas implimented and none of them want to test them or put in the hard work to defend them.

        Which is why the churches, businesses, families, and governments are screwed up. Messed up ideas that don’t deal with reality or human nature.

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      • It’s not just the libruls. It’s the Frankfurters!! The Frankfurters!

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      • Ignorance is the single greatest tool of oppression. We know and understand the arguments of both sides in this issue, which ones do you grasp? Snark is the courage of a small man.

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      • Sorry, you don’t understand anything. You’re stupid, blind, and deaf. You think that once you hate the Jew all of your ills will be sorted out. Crazy!

        Your troubles, the Jews, don’t even begin to scratch the surface. It’s going to be roar time when the shit hits the fan and those of us who warned you see you running around frantic, not knowing what ever hit you. The more you insist it’s some Jewish conspiracy, the more I know you’re of low intelligence and deserve to be subjugated. Except, it won’t be by Jews. You should be that lucky. It’s going to be by much lesser races than even you, and that is the worst type of subjugation. Fun times are ahead.

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      • Well why don’t you tell me what will happen and educate me?

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      • You’re too stupid, Carlos. Actually, paranoid is a better description for what ails you.

        You will never heed any warning. The only thing you’ll listen to is various made-up Jewish conspiracy. That’s why you’re ripe for subjugation. Even right now, you’re being subjugated by shills who fill you with Jew fear which prevents you from seeing the real danger under your nose. The day is not far when real subjugation, the kind you always dreaded will come. The entire west is going to crumble, and all you can think about is Jew here and Jew there? Can’t you see what’s happening in Europe? How long do you think before the seams rip?

        I can’t hate you, Carlos. I don’t have it in me. I just pity you. I hope you’ll see the light, but I’m also a realist. I know that once your mind is controlled by imaginary stuff, it’s very hard to break free. You see conspiracy and sinister stuff everywhere. Even in the sun shining, the flowers blooming, or the birds singing you see bad. It’s a form of cynicism that decomposes the mind. I don’t think you’ll ever get better. I think you’ll become more paranoid as things get worse, and they will. The West is crumbling stone upon stone, and when men like you get an inkling of what’s happening, it’ll be too late to reverse. But do carry on with your Jew hate. It sure gives you somethin’ to do while you wait idle. Just as those shills want you to be.

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      • What exactly is this real danger Lily, you never mention it, just lots of J-wish arm waving and innuendo at what I’m supposedly too stupid to see. It’s obvious to me how J-wish women mind fuck their men and boys so badly. That’s as good an explanation for their invaluable support to the feminist cause.

        As far as oppression is concerned, I’m rather heavily armed and so are most of my friends. That’s why TWWDNS is so keen to disarm us. As I’ve said before, Arabs never stole a country that I’m aware of, nor have they demonstrated the capability to do so. You guys on then other hand…. If we were willing to let the chips fall where they may with Israel, the Arabs would be our friends and we’d never have any more trouble from them. The Tribe on the other hand has stolen Russia, Israel, the EU and the US and tried to steal Germany. You’ll have to do better than that.

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      • LOL. At least I can laugh at you. Here you go again spewing nonsense as if feminism just involves Jewish women, when I specifically posted links of many non-Jewish women feminists.

        Here you go again with Jews stealing countries. It’s a big lie. Where is the proof coming from? Anisemitic Russians that needed to blame the Jews for their own bloodthirstiness? Or, maybe NZ crazies that see Jewish takeover of the world, while in the process destroying their own country. Or, maybe the word of fanatic Muslims that want to convert us to Islam or kill us? Those are the “authorities” you listen to? Hell! You’re stupider than I thought.

        And, the funniest thing of all is that you think your ammunition is going to save you. It will save you from a burglary but not from what is coming. I pity you.

        Subway Masturbator is right – you idiots sure provide comic relief.

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      • Alpha males can mate with more females in a system based on polygamy than a system based on monogamy.

        Thus Muslim countries become more Alpha over time while Christian countries become more beta over time.

        Unfortunately both these trends have gone too far at this point. The Muslim world is too alpha while the (formerly) Christian world is too beta.

        New systems are needed.

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      • Alpha males can mate with more females in a system based on polygamy than a system based on monogamy.

        Yes, but how did so many betas arise in such a society in the first place?

        Thus Muslim countries become more Alpha over time while Christian countries become more beta over time.

        Wrong. Muslim countries were more beta than Christian ones, until Liberalism infected the West. Medieval Europeans constantly commented on how sybaritic and effeminate Muslim societies seemed. Muslims are and have been in a polygamous situation just like the post-Christian West. It’s just that the post-Christian West has taken Liberalism to an idiotic extreme unheard of in the history of the world.

        Unfortunately both these trends have gone too far at this point. The Muslim world is too alpha while the (formerly) Christian world is too beta.

        New systems are needed.

        The post-Christian world is indeed more beta than the Christian world, but only because it’s more Liberal than the Muslim world. Back when the Christian world was less Liberal than the Muslim world, they were kicking the Muslims’ butts once their technological prowess and economies enabled them to do so.

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      • I meant…

        The post-Christian world is indeed more beta than the *Muslim world, but only because it’s more Liberal than the Muslim world.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 4:54 pm North Vinlander

        In the muslim world, the only “alpha males” there who can get multiple wives are those who can buy the most or whose families can buy the most for them. There’s no female choice (except the places today which have been westernized and/or liberalized in recent years).

        Christian Europe often lacked female choice as well with arranged marriages. Marriages were arranged for political and business reasons, with eugenic considerations in mind sometimes as well (does alcoholism run in their family, etc).

        The main way female choice would’ve been a significant factor in either place would’ve been through female infidelity.

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    • The extent of monogamy/polygamy in a culture seems to be determined more by where it falls along the r/K selection spectrum, the religion beliefs follow. There are countries in Africa where polygamy continues to be practiced to an extreme extent even after conversion to “Christianity”. Asia seems to have a history of rulers having enormous harems, where there is no religious edict against such things, but life for the majority of people consists of carefully structured life-long monogamy.

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    • Except those dudes didn’t turn into huge pussies until cultural Marxism took hold.

      They were running shit hard. They conquered most of the world.

      You have zero fucking idea what you are talking about.

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      • The rot began well before cultural marxism, well before the 1960s. It was white beta males who gave women the vote. There just weren’t enough alphas left to say no.

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    • Your post is also another example of how the manosphere’s addiction to pigeonholing every facet of humanity as either alpha or beta pollutes much of the discourse in these parts.

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      • I agree. There’s too much reliance on the Alpha/Beta dichotomy. People aren’t static, unchanging templates. However, we do have varying temperaments and proclivities that can be valuable in and of themselves. Reducing everything to Alpha/Beta is an extreme oversimplification.

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    • Good call on the foreign nature of Christianity. Its a semitic middle easter religion that has absolutely nothing to do with the European men’s inherent nature. Not only did it introduce the the self defeating concepts of ” turn the other cheek ” and ” suicidal ” empathy . It also forbade Christians from practicing usury, while giving a certain ” tribe ” exemption to create a total monopoly on it.

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    • 10/10 comment

      To be fair to Christianity though, the weak males were around before it came along. That’s why it spread like wildfire. The Roman Empire allowed many weak males to multiply under the protection of its laws. It also killed off many virile males through war and by law.

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      • You leave out how many were slaves on estates. The Latifundia System was the standard in Europe until Charlemagne invented serfdom as a reform because it allowed a peasant to have a family. Before then, they lived in segregated barracks.

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  13. Beta males shun responsibility that’s part of what makes them beta. Obligation, obedience, sure, but not responsibility.

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  14. That tweet with the guy who caught his GF cheating on him can’t be a real video. All the eBadasses, high-horse moralists, and anti-gamers have told me repeatedly that if a guy catches you sleeping with his girl he’ll find you and shoot you dead or beat you up instantly, no questions asked and no hesitation.

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    • The thing I never get is why they claim they will beat/harm/kill the man who aided/abetted the cheating but will do nothing to the women who actually cheated.

      The accessory to a wrong should get a lower punishment than the person who actually committed the wrong.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 12:28 pm North Vinlander

        From a Darwinian point of view it makes sense, but not from a moral one.

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      • Moral perspective: a stranger who wrongs you gets punished differently from someone you have a relationship with.

        And that’s before we consider that women have limited self-control and the need to protect your women from roving alphas.

        You appear to continue to believe in Cathedral morality.

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      • on September 27, 2013 at 8:14 pm North Vinlander

        So women are less accountable for their actions because of lesser self-control?

        And surely someone you have/had a relationship with should be punished more severely for betrayal.

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    • you’re pretty dumb for a smart guy, yareally. what you clearly forgot is THAT dude is a chump and THESE dudes here are the real deal. the tough guys on this message board would hunt you down and kill you… if they had a girlfriend, which, btw, they don’t want because girls who sleep with men are all whores who suck poop out of butts in club bathrooms or something.

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      • …and because 19-year old hardbody hard 10’s (12’s on a good day) who are also conservative Christian virgins who love giving head and cooking are kinda hard to find….

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    • a man will always defer to a better man, and yes AMALT. something about the core of emotional pain being the inability to accept reality. ive had them be sad when they find out or when i take the girl right in front of them, but never psycho because frankly they cant compete. shrug. inner game is truly king.

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    • YaReally,

      You post on this topic every time it comes up. It seems like you really want to assure us that men don’t injure other men who fuck their wives and girlfriends. I have to ask, where the f*ck do you hang out? In the past 2 decades I’ve seen dozens of men get their asses kicked for sleeping with another man’s wife or girlfriend. Hell, it’s only been in the last 200 years that men in the west were NOT summarily executed for this behavior.

      Since I’ve been reading these redpill discussions, most of what I’ve come across just feels natural and jibes with my personal experience. But you insistence that a man should bear no ill will to men who screw their wives and girlfriends is just as unnatural to me as the feminist who argues that real men like fatties.

      There are some on this topic that you and I would certainly agree. But insisting that a man act like a total pussy when another man purposefully encroaches on what’s his…

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    • Its wrong, YaReally, it really is, but thats just the way men work.

      The men who would primarily get mad at woman who cheated in the first place *tends* to be the men who don’t get cheated on in the first place, if you know what I mean.

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  15. I was one of those who articulated to CH that it was the alpha males who pushed for the sexual revolution to stop the beta males in the evangelical movement who had pushed for the original non-boomer feminism from 1820 to 1920, thus giving women the vote and Prohibition.

    I stand by that theory. Hugh Hefner was one of them. So were the Kennedy Brothers. It wasn’t the fault of the alphas that the women they allied with in the sixties, turned on them in the eighties when they were abandoned for younger women.

    Maybe it was the “fault” of the alphas that this happened, but you know what I mean. 😉

    It can’t be argued that the evangelical men who gave women the right to vote were anything but the saddest betas.

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    • It can’t be argued that the evangelical men who gave women the right to vote were anything but the saddest betas.

      Evangelical Protestantism is pure betatoidism with a Christian veneer.

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    • Remember that, when women got the right to vote, they took over the Republican Party until 1968 when they took over the other party. The evangelical men played along with anti-free speech nonsense like the Hayes Commission and otherwise helped give alpha males the impression that they needed to revolt in the 60’s. Since then through Santorum, they’ve been weighing the GOP down. The new blood like Cruz and Paul may provide some relief, but Rubio has gone out of his way to get Backpage.com banned, showing he’s anti-free speech and proving himself to be in the control of evangelical women who want men to be arrested and regulated for extracurricular sexual activity.

      (Rubio made some good anti-Obamacare speeches earlier this week however. I will give him credit where it’s due but that’s not relevant to this topic.)

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    • “I was one of those who articulated to CH”

      Sure you were, Anonymous. Sure you were.

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    • alphas and sigmas have no care of this shit. they extract their desires from a society willing to give enthusiastically and don’t build competition for themselves.

      your theory is missing a huge key piece, and that’s an agenda.

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  16. I think it is reasonable to blame beta males for feminism for the simple reason that most males are beta (or lower). Betas tend to give women whatever they want, and look at what they did: They gave women the vote. All manner of evil flowed from that.

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  17. I suppose there might have been some frustrated betas who had enough thoughtfulness to egg on the feminists in hopes of romancing them, but that was probably a small number among the male feminists. All men who cooperate with feminism are by definition betas, mostly omega. After all, feminism is the explicit confirmation of the beta presupposition that “Hey, becoming a man is for jerks, and sex roles are ancient nonsense.” Thus feminism has obvious appeal for betas. Of course, they ought to have seen how self-defeating their cooperation would be for their game. Beta feminists remain basically heterosexual, but they are oblivious to the fact that the essence of heterosexuality is sexual dimorphism. Otherwise known as the opposite of feminism.

    So yes, betas deserve their share of the blame for feminism’s ascendancy. Had more men stuck to their guns, more women would have stuck to the kitchen. Boomer betas fell down on the job of being men, and when men won’t be men, the resulting power vacuum will be occupied by power hungry women. As for whether the betas’ role in Boomer feminism was a self-conscious conspiracy, I couldn’t say. But it strikes me more as a general dereliction of duty, or indulging the inner beta when they saw traditional society collapsing. The disappearance of slut shaming was accompanied by the disappearance of wimp shaming.

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  18. No rocket science involved in this theory, but it’s a fair one.

    After all, when a woman tells a beta male to jump, what does he do?

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    • on September 27, 2013 at 11:10 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      ummm, i dunno. wat do u do? lzozozozooz

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      • Personally?

        Extend left arm (I’m a leftie), lift middle finger, and exclaim, “lotttsassaaa cocckkskkkzz for u!”

        Am I learning?

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  19. Like a school of fish, sometimes crowds and to an extent sometimes whole societies or even civilizations behave – temporarily – as if they had one single mind.

    Western Civilization – or rather the male half of it – like a school of fish with one single mind tried “white knighting” the other half, foolishly believing this would make women happy.

    and just as all beta males eventually realize that the nicer you are to women, the more they are unsatisfied and the more they become bitchy and ingrate.

    We now must admit that the nicer Western Civilization is to women, the more women are unsatisfied and the more they are angry ingrate bitches.

    Western Society became a white knighting society, that is what happened in my humble ( or arrogant ) opinion.

    And just as many men at the beginning of a relationship are to an extent Alpha and then with time slowly become more Beta out of either laziness, complacency, or something else, Western Civilization – with all our modern technologies and our very comfortable lifestyles due to our never seen before abundance – became lazy and complacent and became Beta…

    Beta not only with women but with everything; we let the feminists grab more power and treat us like dirt , we let the gays grab more power, we let third world foreigners and their weird ways and their weird religions grab more power , we let the United Nations grab more power and treat us like dirt, we let the liberal/left grab almost all of the power and treat us like dirt…

    Our relationship with Western civilization is turning sour the same way it does when we become too much of a Beta with a woman; she eventually is disgusted by us and Western civilization is disgusted with us white heterosexual males ( non-white males get a pass – for now, but it may change eventually ).

    We lost control, we lost our “frame”, we lost our game.

    I know this is already too long but one more thing,

    just as the more many men turn into a Beta after having been with the same woman for a while, and the more she is angry, bitchy, ingrate and impossible to satisfy, the harder we try to be even nicer to her

    White males are having this same kind of sick relationship with Western Civilization; the more we do to please feminists, gays, immigrants, non-whites, foreigners, the United Nations, the more they are unsatisfied and the more they demand from us

    the more we degrade ourselves to appease all of them the more they demand from us

    I have said it before and I will say it again; the growing trend of men who like to watch another man do their wife is a symptom of a bigger problem; We Western males are watching our great civilization being fucked by everyone -, liberal/leftists, feminists, gays, third world immigrants, non-whites, etc…

    To think our grand fathers died to defend our great Civilization and to now having to watch everyone use and abuse it like a dirty whore at a gang bang… makes me depressed.

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  20. There is a simple truth that betas are unaware of or simply ignore. It is the misunderstanding and deliberate ignoring of this truth that it is responsible for the state of western society today. Women hate men that give and love men that take.

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  21. Monsieur l’Heartiste:
    I fear you give beta males too much credit. When in doubt, go with the most likely scenario after asking the question: “Was it a beta conspiracy?” Answer: most likely not. Betas, almost by definition, don’t innovate or rock the boat.

    The most likely diagnosis (based on actual historical study) is that it was indeed women who started the feministical movement — but the movement was empowered by beta male acceptance and support, because (duh) beta males are always looking for acceptance from women.

    As to WHICH beta males… ah, now that’s the interesting question, and the answer comes yet again from the history: journalists and academics (almost the standard definition of the primary beta professions). Couple that with strident feministicals, and there’s the movement. With such “popular” support, could beta politicians be far behind, to translate feministical wishful thinking into pro-womyn legislation?

    In other words, as it was in the beginning, so it is now.

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  22. If betas are not the ones that came up with the feminist poison, they certainly cater to it and reinforce it by putting up with it, or even worse – promoting it. Think about every guy who nods with agreements at the stupid feminist gibberish he hears from a female friend or a date.

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  23. what ihatethereforeiam78 said, if betas aren’t actively responsible then they are at least passively responsible through their inaction to do anything to prevent it.

    But don’t give male betas such a tough time. The few remaining threads of civilization that still exist are in part to their efforts. Collectively they are keeping the rest of us (including all minorities) afloat.

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  24. No. Beta males thought women getting jobs would be good so they wouldn’t have to spend so much time at work and might get to spend more time with their kids.

    The current supplicating is the result of feminism. They supplicate because they know the state is on her side and will assist her and kick him out of the home he provided. He is no longer the master of his house unless she chooses to allow it (no fault divorce and child support.)

    Beta males also benefited from feminism in getting to some degree to have sex before marriage.

    Your narcissism is showing on this one.

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  25. Heartiste, when are you going to ban that GreatBooksForMen shitposter?

    Anyway, if betas are responsible for “Boomer feminism”, it’s because they were raised to truly believe in equality, and in a world where equality is a fact, feminism does make sense.

    Boomer parents were constantly talking about “female assertiveness”, believing that assertive women would choose to build a family instead of riding the cock carousel.

    Meanwhile, young men were taught that it is sinful to push women’s buttons. Ask any (White) male child of the ’80s and ’90s. Kind of like how it’s sinful to use the word ‘nigger’, because it “inflicts stereotype threat” / reminds Blacks of their inferiority.

    I think the reason everything started going completely unhinged 50 years ago is that laws were passed making it illegal to knowingly employ a non-equalist. When the conversation we’re allowed to have is restricted, the conclusions we’re going to reach are too.

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  26. Girls who are used to dating nice guys are so annoying. They always think I just use them for sex, which is okay for a while, but when they develop deeper feelings they just go crazy. I don’t say “I love you” every time I leave, and I don’t say, “I missed you” every time I come back. And I don’t constantly text when we are apart. But girls who’s used to nice guys think that’s how men show affection.

    Girls like that also think they can control me the way they control nice guys. When I get jealous, I don’t declare my love, I leave with someone else. When a girl tell me what to do, I don’t do it, I just get angry (use your feminine charm goddammit! Make me think it was my own idea). And holding her affection back doesn’t make me want to chase her, it makes me want to chase someone else. Nice guys have a feminine mentality, so what works on girls works on them – but it doesn’t work on me, it usually just make me angry. A lot of girls don’t seem to understand that simply being sweet and vulnerable makes me want to be good to her.

    Betas are not just responsible for feminism, they’re responsible for destroying women by putting up with their bullshit.

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    • exactly. beta males give women the wrong instincts about all men. i’ve been called ‘opaque’ and ‘unknowable’ by women because i don’t declare each and every feeling running through my heart every second. they begin to believe the same things that work on women work on men too (negs, cocky/funny, jealousy, etc). that stuff doesn’t attract me…it makes me next her.

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  27. It’s Identification Game (http://therationalmale.com/2011/09/02/beta-game/). Betas trying to show they understand women by identifying with them.

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    • That article confuses understanding women with being like them. If a boy seeks to be “one of the girls” by turning off his male sexuality, intentionally or not, then yeah that would be beta. But if he uses his understanding to plan gamelike moves to reach his masculine goals, well this is exactly what game is and what the great thinkers of game write about. Empathy is not the same as sympathy or alliance.

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  28. OT: dude, that MLK Charlie Bro. video is gold, Jerry, gold. I can’t stop laughing

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  29. When GBFM takes the mask off and speaks in a normal voice it becomes clear why he usually obscures himself: most people can’t handle his message straight-up, the implications are terrifying.

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  30. Yes, but you got the details wrong. It was just another part of “if I’m nice to you you’ll let me fuck you” anti-game and/or another aspect of simply being wimpy and letting women walk all over them. Not conscious thought of getting back at jocks or hurting alphas. At the time the boomers did this or started it, PUA fuzzy hat alphas didn’t exist. Beta providers like my grandpa and dad got a hot feminine wife at age 22. Boomers fucked the Gen X generation. I tried talking to my super beta dad and it’s not even something (this website, red pill) that he can even begin to understand let alone agree with. He would have been destroyed by the Gen X women I’ve had to deal with my entire life…he would literally be a virgin.

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  31. If we define John Scalzi as a beta, rather than say an omega, then your hypothesis may be true. I can’t tell by understanding the thinking behind it, because if Scalzi is a beta, I was always an alpha even before I thought about gamelike topics,simply because I had a bit of self respect.

    A pathetic blob of protoplasm like Scalzi would surely stimulate disgust in any sexually normal female. He’s probably get a reciprocal cheering section from those females heretofore prevented from being sexually normal, as you say, the ugly ones. And by repelling all the feminine girls, Scalzi would become available for those far less desirable females, with whom he can go on to a relationship of mutually self-righteous codependency and political correctness. A match made in heaven.

    There were always mentally weak males like Scalzi. There were always physically disadvantaged females. I would ask which group started a movement first. And I think it was the females. The suffragette leaders were also supposedly ugly old spinster hags, according to some comments on a post a couple months ago here.

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  32. Here is what a good boomer mom must sing to her real-man son:

    “Tell Mama”

    You thought you had found a good girl
    One to love you and give you the world
    Now you find that you’ve been misused
    Talk to me, I’ll do what you choose
    I want you to…
    Tell Mama all about it
    Tell Mama what you need
    Tell Mama what you want
    And I’ll make everything alright
    That girl you had didn’t have no sense
    She wasn’t worth all the time that you spent
    She had another man throw you outdoors
    Now the same man is wearing your clothes
    I want you to…
    Tell Mama all about it
    Tell Mama what you need
    Tell Mama what you want
    And I’ll make everything alright
    Tell me, tell me now
    She would embarrass you anywhere
    She’d let everybody know she didn’t care
    Give me a chance, I’ve been beggin’ you
    And I just want to take care of you
    I want you to…
    Tell Mama all about it
    Tell Mama what you need
    Tell Mama what you want
    Tell Mama what you want right now
    Tell me, tell your mom
    I’m your Mama
    Tell me what you want

    Read it closely.

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  33. Yareally,

    I got to tell you, I know a lot of players and grew up with womanizers my entire life. My dad told me in 4th grade ‘find em feel em fuck em and forget em” basically pump and dump them. We would be at a stop light and would roll down the window and tell me go say hi to those girls. He was training me with women so I grew up with an alpha dad that showed us right.

    By 8th grade I was feeling the girls up during recess by 15 I was a make out bandit so already my experience with women was in the top percentile. Had ltrs from 18 and on with plenty of ONS and flings, fuck buddies etc.

    My alphaness got wacked when I suffered a tremendous loss. Family tragedy with deaths and violence and shit. Turned to Christianity for relief. Still hold true to those beliefs so its hard for me to “let myself go in the world of poon” if that makes sense.

    But at 31 with the game being put on paper for us to read, naturals or even ex beta shlubs, its incredible how so many of your experiences (read the archives) coincide with my own personal experiences. Just never had realized that it existed online for us to read.

    From my understanding you are extremely intelligent so take that into account for your success. I wouldn’t be surprised if your IQ is in the 130s at the very least. It takes a very savvy character to be able to navigate the situations you have been in.

    I now realize how low my inner self esteem was. Probably has a lot to do with vicious beatings I had growing up. Ever been backhanded by your mother so hard that blood ran down your shirt? I recall vicious backhands from as early as 1st grade bro so obviously this has had an effect on my inner frame. I have been able to get pussy based on strong externals (looks, muscles, humor and my wild self) but always felt limited based on inner wounds. Now I am getting those inner wounds healed through extensive therapy, self reflection, reading, and letting out the toxic shame that permeates my inner core.

    Personally, since you have invested so much time and energy in this endeavor, coupled with your intelligence and good writing skills, you should attempt to monetize this. Whether for good or bad reasons I think you can seriously make a decent side living as a coach.

    I am an attorney so I can help you potentally grow a business. Why waste this talent man all this work has paid off for you so u can help people. If you didn’t care you wouldn’t post as much as you do on here.

    Personal contact is [email protected] gmail

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    • Thanks for sharing that, and no I am not being facetious or ironic. Knowing that other people have succeeded in spite of abuse helps me deal with my own childhood and be a better parent to my tots.

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    • I’m going to keep this shorter and hope it lives. YaReally is a STRAIGHT fuckng Gee. Probably a decade younger than me, living in LA vs. DC, et. al. BUT I’ve never seen one of his conquests in spite of his merited game. RooshV, is a hairy persian ma’fucka. He is a denialist libtard cunt but he has slayed mad pussy east of Germany. This is good. There is a manosphere dude, G Manifesto, who probably doesn’t exist. He is some busted nigger that RooshV links to and supports even though his website is literally, almost a parody. YaReally is to CH as GManifesto is to RooshV. I attempted to validate this before but my shit got nuked…

      Game is game, and bullshit is bullshit. Let’s keep it RealTalk™ please…

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    • thats not ya’s schtick.

      you are an alpha that is learning to put words to the concepts you internalized as a kid.

      ya, like rollo, is a clear ex-beta who is probably an INTJ/INFJ who, after much failure, learned to dissect and mimic advantagous human behavioral mechanics to his benefit, and then internalized them.

      he would make money off the 90% of men, but you need to understand the frame in which that information is both given and learned lest you get suckered into game that wont work for you.

      you probably have alpha game and will come through in-congruent if you apply ya’s advice. you need rehab game maybe?!

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      • Ding ding ding Tilikum wins.

        The degree of Yareally dickriding has become a joke, really. That lovely story from GreatestBeta is a good indicator of the type of men who will soon be taken advantage of by monetized yareally.

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    • and yes I coach/ consult on social dynamics but mostly cross-culturally and to corporations.

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  34. ” . . .prime movers of Boomer feminism?”

    Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, Grace Slick . . . not Boomers. Even Andrea Dworkin slips into Boomerdom just under the wire.

    Second Wave Feminism was born in the Greatest Generation and was pushed along by the Silent Generation who rolled their shit downhill onto the Boomers, who were just kids at the time. The kids partied, as kids will do. As the younger Millennials and the post Millennials are doing right now.

    It was the Beats who grew the counter culture, not the Hippies.

    “Did beta males enjoin the feminist sabotage of civilization because they thought it would cramp the style of alpha males?”

    No. Beta males created traditional, monogamous civilization to cramp the style of alpha males and it was the bulk of beta males who defended it because they grasped the consequences quite well. I knew them.

    See the movie “Samurai Rebellion.”

    Hey, I finally managed to get a woman of my “own,” don’t you go taking her away from me.

    “. . .a fit of spite against the jocks they hated in high school.”

    Most of the jocks in high school are betas in alpha clothing. They are dependent on monogomy to get chicks. The football team is the most perfect example of a socialist oligarchy you are likely to find.

    The real dweebs didn’t understand this, but the greater betas, alphas and sigmas among the non-jocks did. They also outnumbered the jocks, by a considerable margin.

    They didn’t hate the jocks for being alpha. They hated the jocks for being assholes while beta. The chief threat to an alpha isn’t other alphas, it’s beta assholes. Who are also necessary to the alpha’s power structure. The relationship is not an easy one.

    It was assuredly some serious dark triad guys who were the prime movers. I knew some of them as well. Empathy free, Machivellian bastards the lot of them. Able to spout feminist scripture with the best of them. All the while patting your back while picking your pocket.

    They knew what they were doing and why.

    Scalzi is also not a Boomer, he’s an Xer just trying to make his dweeby best of the environment he was born into. He popped out, noticed this big ball of Sisyphean shit rolling down at him, jumped behind it and started pushing downhill while yelling “Look at me. I’m helping! I’m helping!”

    I’m not saying that betas didn’t play a role; many party age betas add their muscle and can even add up to the bulk of the actual force, but they know not what they do and are not the prime movers, just the usual mass of useful idiots. They are, as is their wont, pushing in the direction the alphas want them to.

    And, of course, some of them never grow up and learn.

    So if you want to argue that betas provided most of the force, yeah, I guess. Privates always make up the bulk of the force of an army, but they don’t start the war, make the strategy, or, in general, even have any idea what they are doing there.

    You may not like my opinion. Hell, I’m not sure I like it myself. That’s OK, tomorrow I’ll have others.

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  35. Another Q for anyone who wants to take a shot at answering…re: never giving in or apologizing for your feelings. Also re: — your feelings are what matter, not hers. Her feelings are always irrelevant and meaningless.

    If a guy says ‘what the fuck are you doing talking to that other guy…’

    and she just says some bullshit about ‘oh you need to let me be free, stop being possessive, blah blah blah…’

    I’d say that the beta thing to do would be to be like ‘ya I’m trying, but…..’ or ‘I’m sorry, I just feel….’

    The most optimal thing to do seems to be ‘you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, you…’ and then just TELL HER how she feels. Srs. It’s pretty kewl. Seems to spike attraction if the reactions it gets are any indication….

    Or rather, why/how does the above work? And boy howdy does it work. For EVERYTHING.

    This is the pattern —- start drama/drama starts based on any negative feeling you have at all, just express it. Then completely dismiss as nonsense anything she says, tell her how she feels, disengage/do-whatever-the-fuck-you-want = srs tingles.

    But some of it seems beta….like, expressing or showing any needy emotion.

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    • So the guy starting drama. That’s nasty, since drama sucks so much, a totally useless “deadweight loss”. I think I used to do it for a while and it worked OK, then I forgot because drama is just so generally stupid, maybe I’ll restart it though. Thanks for the reminder, Scray.

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    • O, I think mine is the result of deep psychological issues that I’m using other ppl to work through….:D cheers

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    • “tell her how she feels”

      Scray-dawg. Can you provide an example of that.

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      • “You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about…”

        “…you’re just pissed that I could get some any time I want and you’re acting out…psh, I’m fucking over it.”

        “…you’re just scared that I could leave your life at any second.”

        “…you just hate caring about me so much.”

        etc etc etc

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      • Ok I see what you did there.

        Thanks for sharing bro. Is this with the 7 or the ~32yo with the banging body?

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      • This is fast becoming with all the girls I’m seeing…..

        ….idk bro, I think that cougar turned me into a man. srs. I’m giving so little fucks….

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      • This is fast becoming with all the girls I’m seeing…..


        ……
        …….

        Ride the wave scray-dawg.

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      • U should try it……the sex afterward will be insane. Ludicrous.

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      • Yeah man I haven’t exerted that kind of hard dominance before. Mostly it was me holding up boundaries but not in the way you presented.

        You just provided actionable ways to deliver. Thanks dudebro.

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      • ya it’s all about conviction and delivery. U gotta be willing to fucking crush her tho. You are smart, she is stupid, you are strong, she is weak — and it’s only justified on a ‘because I say so’ basis. That’s the frame. I have the reference experience of just mind-blowing sex…and so in my mind I’m like ‘lol, ur shit in bed u can’t satisfy a man.’ And for some reason, it’s just like ‘who gives a fuck’ armor.

        throw some tantrums, tell her she has to leave work on a break and fuck u now….get crazy lol. ur life will change overnight…….srs.

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      • on September 28, 2013 at 1:24 am gunslingergregi

        ill agree when you have had the best normal bitches are not going to impress

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      • Dude, that sounds so insecure… I mean saying that out loud defeats the whole purpose I think. What if you drop that kind of line, then the next day you show just a micro hint of caring about her in any way. She’ll then think that everything you say on the topic is complete bullshit, and you’re just showing off right?

        Idk, it might just be me but I don’t really get a kick about these kinds of domination-submission relationships

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      • Don’t knock it til you try it lol

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  36. I was around for much of the Feminist movement from the early 70s on. I think Omegas are to blame for allyng with Feminists. I think Alphas thought it was funny and didn’t care. I think betas also thought that they would be able to get more pussy, because men had been completely snowed on how women think. Their animal natures that we so proudly deconstruct here, were largely unknown to us and those who saw it were seen as too harsh to be correct. So, I think they played a role in this travesty as unwiiting dupes, but were not the only factor. I still think the true culprits were our usual suspects, however, given the ethnicity of most Feminists, especially back in the day.

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  37. Surprise !
    Gender is not a social construct.
    Norwegian documentary begrudgingly comes to the truth. Totally worth reading subtitles.

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    • I haven’t watched it all the way thru. Usually I would listen in the background if it were English.

      But it seems they say girls prefer nursing to engineering because it’s more exciting to them. That leaves out the fact that girls start failing to learn math after about puberty. They hit a wall. The percentage of girls in my high school math classes went down every year until there were none in my senior year. We started with one but she dropped out after a month and went back to the slower version of the class.

      So it’s not just interest, there’s also a lack of ability. Statistically speaking of course.

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      • The two go hand in hand though. I’m shit at things I don’t give a damn about. I was always very good at maths, but I was always a kid who would solve maths problems in my spare time. What’s the cause and what’s the effect? I dunno. Though given my experience of helping girls and helping boys at maths – I would say girls just aren’t interested in it.

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    • vid gets bonus points for throwing the Cure in the middle.

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    • The video first seems to take you in one direction, but then the biology people end up crushing the sociology people. Good video!

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      • Sociology is such a joke. Based on my experience in the “social problems” class I’m taking, all sociologists do is pick out values or systems they don’t like, criticize them, and then suggest no way to “fix” the problem or otherwise do anything about it. Peggy McIntosh and her trash piece “unpacking the invisible knapsack” are a prime example.

        Sociologists are feminists and hard left liberals with no goal but to detach the host population from our people and culture.

        And of course, whenever I speak up in class (I’m one of maybe 4 white kids) the teacher just gives me the old, “oh that’s not really what we mean here,” or the “well I’m white and I agree with Tim Wise so I can’t be anti white.”

        In short, screw college. I hate it.

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  38. You can’t forget the power of whining. Women are specialists in that field. I think a lot of men become beta and start agreeing to everything their wives say even letting them taking the lead of the household in order to not hear their whines any more.

    Old wisdom from the Proverbs in the Bible: “A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day”

    Many men gathered here were raised up listening to the whining of our mothers, aunts, etc about their men not listening enough to them, not helping enough at home, etc. So we grew up thinking that (to get sex/get their appreciation) we should outdo our fathers and become the men women say they’d like to have. Because who can know better, right?

    This and that women are the gatekeepers of sex. Our drive will let us do whatever (see beta men dating omega3 rich whales)

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  39. Was going to say this is off topic, but I think it has all to do with Beta, Culture, Feminist Idiocy, and Tool Time.

    Has anyone else found the ongoing crucifixion of University of Toronto Literature Professor David Gilmour?

    Try to contain your rage as you read this blog post, or save it for later before it’s yanked and denied-

    http://www.dispositio.net/archives/1688

    And read the comments.

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    • Who cares about a bunch of ice-burn brained Canadians anyway? The pentathlon of pedantry over there is unbearable. Is there anything more pathetic than a bunch of dorks feigning outrage and trying to out politically correct one another?

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  40. We need to go back to the lates 60’s and understand that “feminism” is tied to the “sexual revolution”. Men, Alpha or Beta, were much more obliged to behave like Hugo Schwyzer. Claim empathy and get laid……..

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    • Feminism is tied to inflation. Starting in the 70s, wages stagnated while cost of living went up. This pushed families into becoming dual income in order to survive…this also compounded with the rise of materialism is what has forced women into the workforce. Feminism certainly did not help- and stupidly was given the credit for it.- but it was an after the fact justification…..

      In the 50s, a butcher could support a family of 4…as could a line cook or a warehouse manager. That is not the case anymore. Follow the money.

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      • wages stagnated while cost of living went up

        Increasing the workforce by 50% had something to do with that.

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      • Or the debt — posted this in an earlier comment, didn’t show up, not sure if the filter ate it:

        This paper examines the growth of government during this century
        as a result of giving women the right to vote. Using cross-sectional
        time-series data for 1870–1940, we examine state government expenditures and revenue as well as voting by U.S. House and Senate
        state delegations and the passage of a wide range of different state
        laws. Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns
        for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing
        over time as more women took advantage of the franchise. Contrary to many recent suggestions, the gender gap is not something
        that has arisen since the 1970s, and it helps explain why American
        government started growing when it did.”

        http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~iversen/PDFfiles/LottKenny.pdf

        This should be required reading in HS and College history classes.

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      • “Feminism is tied to inflation…”

        The crux of GBFM’s rants: irredeemable, fiat, debt-based, YKW-dominated central banking; the levy of ever escalating income taxes on men first, and then on women, to defray interest compounded and accrued thereby on the public debt; all of which is enabled by government’s self-bestowed monopoly on armed violence (usurped from once sovereign men) to enforce the collection thereof; the intended endpoint being the economic and psychospiritual subjection of the goyim men to their own women and then the eventual totalitarian enslavement of both to the self-chosen master manipulators of illusory money.

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  41. One of my all-time favorite CH offerings was the one about how seriously beta guys normally go their entire lives without enjoying the kinds of experience one needs to truly understand the female hind-brain. Since a majority of men in most times and places fall into this category, nothing more is needed, imho, to explain why men in general fall for womens BS of the moment. “Feminism” just being the latest example.

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    • Yep. Until you truly unplug yourself from EVERYTHING that people feed you (the media narratives, blogs, advertising, your mom) then you’ll stay a sucker on some level.

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  42. Interesting theory. I would say there’s a bit of truth to that. Beta males, at the verge of losing their bargaining power, offer notions of “equality” (a lose lose situation for both parties…instead of lifting everyone up it becomes a race to the bottom) at the hopes of scoring poooosie points. Much like taking the insurance at the blackjack table when the dealer shows an ace, the beta males jumped on it, causing them to lose twice on the hand.

    And it’s VERY prevalent amongst guys who should be alpha. I saw an article passed around on facebook yesterday by buzzfeed.com titled “40 Things Every Self-Respecting Man Should Own” which is a list of fancy ass razors, colognes, towel sets…etc. Remember guys, you CANNOT call yourself a man unless you have the BuzzFeed approved items. This article is aspirational….it’s written FOR beta males who want to appear alpha. “Forget actually being a man when you can buy the IMAGE! PEER APPROVED!”

    What I’ve come to understand now and see in a matrix like fashion is a bunch of guys who cling to the “appearance” of what a man “should” look like, without having the slightest on the inner workings of what that would actually be.

    They rely on image and group acceptance of that image, then at 40 wonder why they aren’t happy. It’s OK little buddy, don’t try to think about it too hard, EVERYONE is like that. Because we’re telling you now, trust us. Here, here’s a benzo to help you sleep a little better.

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    • great comment pimpin

      I saw that list too……Buzzfeed tends to draw a primarily female audience anyways given how often girls share their lists over Facebook.

      Pop Psychology lists with animated GIFs are very appealing to the short attention span of the modern female.

      Given this….to take any of their “man advice” seriously…..is to make a big joke of yourself.

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  43. Unintended consequence of the Beta’s?! – Huh!?

    How about philosophical deconstruction? – Derrida, Foucalt and Heidegger.

    “Thinking only begins at the point where we have come to know that Reason, glorified for centuries, is the most obstinate adversary of thinking.” . . Martin Heiddegger

    No go off and wallow in your greyness and uncertainty post-modern bitches. Lol

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  44. o/t – Richard Burton ‘bought’ wife for $1m.

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/richard-burton-wife-bought-million-1891524

    Rubython said: “The two men immediately spoke to arrange what they called the ‘transfer’ of Suzy. Burton offered to pay Hunt’s divorce settlement to Suzy: $1m (£627,000). Burton couldn’t believe that Hunt was so casual about letting go of his beautiful wife. Hunt simply said: ‘Relax, Richard. You’ve done me a wonderful turn by taking on the most alarming expense account in the country.’ Suzy, effectively, had been sold to Burton by Hunt for $1m and both were satisfied with the transaction.” The author added: “For James Hunt, it couldn’t have worked out better; he had got rid of the wife he never wanted and saved himself the divorce costs.”

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  45. I seriously doubt betas are “responsible” for anything. That’s slightly oxymoronic.

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  46. Beta males follow the status quo and form the bedrock of society. I do not think many were involved in early feminism. They support it now because it is dominant worldview, the few women they have access to can be placated by parroting feminist talking points, and they think need a dual-income household to live well.The pathway to economic stability has been slowly eroding for previously “middle class” Americans for 1.5 generations. The most recent crop of betas have no concept of a nurturing maternal figure for themselves or their children and have never experienced true respect in a relationship. It is easy to construct a sour-grapes mentality about the feminine housewife, when what one truly desires is at odds with what is available and is needed for a standard material lifestyle.

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  47. on September 27, 2013 at 3:35 pm Operation Reinhard

    This Judeo-Feminism we’re seeing now was invented by the rat-faced, meat cleaver-nosed scum and is part of the program to exterminate the White race.

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    • Runner up for Mustache Boy Masturbator of the Day, for the vicious veiled jealousy, but the toadying style of naming yourself after Nazi murderer Reinhard Heydrich lacks the imagination of Jay in Dee Cee’s “If Only Hitler were a Little Nicer”. Keep trying though, without neck-vein popping anti-Semites here, we’d have so little comic relief!!

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    • another nazi faggot whose never gotten laid (by a woman) taking it in the ass from your nazi fag buddies doesn’t count

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      • That’s certainly a reasonable and clever retort. But I thought you guys wanted us Goyim to turn queer so we would breed even less, lose our moral compass as a society, and be culturally rudderless, making us ripe for manipulation, and placing the church, the foundation of our society, at odds with the law.

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      • No they just want more gay friends, its lonely being a “bottom “.

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      • the two of you stick together like fags. Where there is Carlos, there is Hammer. Interesting !

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      • I see Saturday night you had nothing to do but to post here, eh? So, I am right; you haven’t seen a pussy in ages, poor thing.

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      • We were waiting for you sweet cheeks. By the way, How’s your cock search coming along ? Still empty handed I see. Oh well, maybe someday.

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      • “Carlos Danger”– Now that’s a good spy name. He adventures widely, always carrying a paranoid Jew-fear for his sustenance. Hmm… doesn’t actually sound too heroic….No Mustache Boy Masturbator award for you today Carlos. Keep hating though, what you lack in humanity you can always make up for ….ummmm

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      • That’s because I spoke the truth. You have snark instead, the criticism of a weak man.

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      • Nothing you said is true. It’s your crooked perception. Your perception doesn’t make things true. Just a strange fixation from your lack of potency.

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      • Yeah that right khazarian princess, its a matter of ” crooked perception “. Everything you say is “always true ” everyone else is always wrong. Yup, just a matter of crooked perception. You are pretty daft aren’t you ?

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      • No. Unlike you, I base mine on fact. You base yours on hearsay and conspiracy theory you read in joo-hate school on the internet. That’s the difference between us, loser, get it? Now run along and play with yourself.

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    • I’m lol’ing at the thought of being EITHER a jew-feminist or a nazi…there is no middle ground.

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  48. Man who is afraid to have a child is obviously a beta man and not alpha. Alpha are strong and tough and no hang ups to have a responsibility…

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    • I don’t agree.

      I think when you begin to define alpha by ANYTHING more than its simplest form – bedding attractive women – you run into problems and begin to apply your own personal moral imperative to the definition.

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  49. True or not?

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  50. As a boomer beta myself, I gotta say you nailed it. Possibly no one in history has ever so completely shot themselves in the foot.

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  51. True alpha

    Looking for approval?

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  52. So men who are afraid to have a child are “beta”. So either they are beta or not able to breed.

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  53. I wrote the following in Oct 23 2010.

    Original here: http://reflexoes-masculinas.blogspot.com.br/2010/10/nao-havera-revolucao-beta.html

    Its in broken english because it was originally written in portuguese, and it is just an excerpt that concerns the sexual revolution, wich I call “The Second Beta Revolution” or “Beta Counter Revolution” (the first being the implementation of monogamy in agrarian societies):

    ***

    2 . The Beta Counter-Revolution

    In the post -war we witness a curious situation. Given the immense pressure imposed by sexual selection in an environment where it is necessary to prove yourself a good provider and protector , many young males saw themselves excluded from selection, or having to sacrifice too much to be able to procreate themselves .

    It inexists in man, it is known, the instinct for Fatherhood . There is , however , the instinct of procreation and this explains why, instinctively a man wants to impregnate a much larger number of women than its ability to sustain this offspring. The priority of the male is not becoming a father , but copulate – paternity a side effect and necessity for their offspring survive .

    The Sexual Revolution , in this sense , was a male effort to facilitate acess to procreation. For this end, it was advocated a change in the social convention that demanded the pre requisite of being a good provider in order to have acess to sex – wich would result in being encumbered with a family.

    Many criticize the current state of female promiscuity , but remember that sex free of material expectations , was in reality an ambition originating from male promiscuity : sexual liberation for women was an important step for several betas would try to get sex without necessarely having to form a family . The 60 can be best described as an effort to dope juvenile girls , accompanied by a rhetoric aimed at minimizing or destroying the social pressure for chastity.

    It’s strange to think this way , but keep in mind that the hippies were not the top of the scale in their society . They were in reality the failures of their time.

    One might wonder why women embrace this idea at all, since they would be practicing sex and risking having offspring in unstable relationships , without safety and provision.

    In reality this is not so : first, this time they already had the power to vote. And already legally compulsory provision devices , as well as police protection ( an outsourcing of protection by a particulary male).

    Secondly, it also opened up opportunities for them sexual competition . Not having to set up a good provider for life, now they could use sex as a weapon of competition for the most desirable males , men ‘s top of sexual selection .

    The main reason why both the chaeste and the sluts hate sluts is because they use extreme tactics: the slut outcompetes the quiet ones for male attention where its most desired.

    ***

    Bottom line: betas of the past thought that making girls easy and unconstrained by social mores would result in free love. In fact, unconstrained by sexual mores, some were able to outcompete others bribing men with sex before marriage, dragging the entire female sex into a “sexual arms race”.

    As for the betas, the conclusion of that piece is the same as of this one by Heartiste: betas screwed their chances even more.

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  54. Something about this doesn’t seem to reflect reality. I need to revisit a draft post I wrote titled “Why we slaughter alpha males” and see if I’ve already addressed the flaw to your argument. More to follow later.

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  55. My friend of many years might be an herb. Can’t say for sure as his wife is still there. Otoh, she fucked her ex bf 2 weeks prior to tying the knot with my buddy. Continued to step out all throughout the marriage. My buddy does dishes, groceries, laundry, and full time job. Never gets sex from her. I’ve tried to show him/tell him how to behave when I’m around but it’s a real mess when he tries to pull it off. I’ve tried sending him here but he thinks he’s a player with the ladies. But he’s not. He told me that it’s better than being alone lol. Unfuckinbelievable. I’m having a hard time spending time with him because he never wants to do anything if she’s not involved. Invited him to come along on some adventures with some of the bros but he declines. I think he’s afraid of leaving her alone/ no phone access/ no control. Please discuss.

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  56. I’ve got a different question: is rape a feature of war as opposed to a bug? Society has always attempted to erect walls between sex and beta males. It’s always created hoops that betas, unlike alphas, just couldn’t seem to jump through. So, was the right to rape and pillage the enemies women at will the prize that it took to get betas to sign up for the very alpha task of war?

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    • “Society has always attempted to erect walls between sex and beta males.”

      On the contrary, the most successful civilizations more or less guaranteed sex and a family to the average beta.

      Thus betas became invested in their civilization. They had skin in the game. Their energies and abilities focused towards their nation’s prosperity.

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    • I doubt betas sign up for war to get some hamster action. All the pussy in the world, cant make up for the things men go through during combat.

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    • At most it was used as a “selling point” in some cultures, but only a fool would believe men rushed into those atrocious conditions on that point alone.

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  57. Are beta males responsible for feminism? No

    Will they be enablers to help chain us up as breeding stock? Yes

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  58. Someone’s probably already said it, but beta men had more to lose from women in the workplace. From a non-economic standpoint, the situation for beta men was ideal when nearly every man was at work and a woman was home busying herself with housework and the kids. The opportunities for their wives to cheat were few. The men immediately fucked by feminism were uneducated men, alpha and beta alike, whose jobs were jeopardized when a huge new segment (women) joined the workforce.

    I don’t think this is a beta/alpha issue. I think it is a cultural marxism issue. There were ideologues, the Frankfurt School and other disciples of Gramsci, who wanted to end ‘white male hegemony’ and so they liberated blacks, women, gays. It didn’t appear to work, however, because 40 years later you still hear them piss and moan about ‘racism’, ‘patriachy’, and ‘homophobia’ at any given opportunity.

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    • Great comment, but people will piss and moan about anything, when given the option. Once fat women were told they were *allowed* to complain about “thin acceptance” or “fat shaming language”, they did so.

      A woman who is at no lack for basic lifes necessities (food, water, shelter) will continue to complain to make their own world better, even if they see the world burning around them.

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  59. Off-topic, but enjoy the laughs:

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  60. In Europe, the best Alpha men were decimated in two Jew wars. This left a giant opening for the Cultural Marxists and the feminists there. The intelligentsia (such as they are) in America, always a slave to the intellectual currents from Europe, fell in line with these alien currents. Though it wasn’t until the later 60s and into the 70s when Jews fully consolidated their media and academic power that feminism was fed to the populace in giant doses, following the propaganda insights of Jew Edward Bernays. Once you control the narrative it’s game over.

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    • In the 1st WW, Germans men of Zhese birth fought effectively and in normal numbers for Germany. Opposite the power of the Anglo/Hebrew/Banking Empire intent on imposing its rule.
      Afterwards, the same evil schemers put AH into power and gave him fiat money so that he could do more of their will.
      Which was what, exactly?
      Listening to this makes me dizzy.

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    • The German guy most responsible for the introduction of war gas in WW1 was named Fritz Haber. Your guess would be right.
      It produced great advantage for the German Army, for a while at least.
      His wife killed herself over it.

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      • Fritz Haber was also Jewish. He was also supposedly a very patriotic German as well. Germany seemed to have had a large number of such patriotic Jews before the war. I have read Hitler’s Company Commander in WWI was also Jewish.

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    • Peterike, welcome to the Mustache Masturbator Sub-Forum. Prizes are awarded for the most obsequious worship of your pal and patron saint. There are also squirting distance contests for what you do in your garage.

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    • on September 28, 2013 at 6:34 pm Mr.magNIFicent1

      Excellent. Classic Lindbergh.

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  61. What is the heart of feminism? is it equality through inequality. (A quote from some where is women want to be treated equal until they can’t compete then they want preferential treatment.)
    The beta male mating strategy is in some ways to put the woman higher then themselves and call it equal.

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  62. on September 27, 2013 at 8:02 pm gunslingergregi

    chick wants me to move in cook for me everyday
    i would save loot but on same token i would get complacent
    some other dude asks her to marry him she says no
    i do nothing for her wants me to move in
    buys me shit
    if i wanted to marry her could tomorrow
    i don’t even know anymore

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  63. […] ‘Are Beta Males Responsible For Feminism?’ […]

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  64. on September 27, 2013 at 8:22 pm gunslingergregi

    this bitch said if i strip dance she will put money in my pants lol
    i’m moving over to the dark side of the force hahahahahah

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  65. texty texty fun

    To girl studying for LSAT

    Me: 174?
    Her: Hahahah. HI!
    Me: 175 and you are hired
    Her: you are funny
    Me: but no taking advantage of the boss :p
    Her: that’s no fun
    Me: that’s what makes fun. Not having what you want
    Her: is this a common theme?
    Me: I like fireworks. We cannot deny who we are
    Her: so when you have them do you get bored
    Me: Not at all. But if I don’t see your face soon ill get bored of textng you!!

    lolzzzlolzzz I love the texty game im not as solid as some of the pros but this shit is hilarious. I love throwing outlandish shit out there seeing her reaction

    seriously the chase is more fun than the bang

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  66. on September 27, 2013 at 8:49 pm gunslingergregi

    wtf is up with chicks talking bout kidnapping around me chick said her daughter best friend held hostage today and they killed the dude just now wtf
    its getting too rough around here

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  67. If we haven’t figured it out yet, feminism is fixated on contraception and abortion. When you think about it, from a woman’s evolutionary perspective, contraception and abortion allow her to prospectively (contraception) or retrospectively (abortion) erase a mistake that she may have made by copulating with an unworthy beta. Feminism therefore allows a woman more time and opportunity to asses the worthiness of a man to be the father of her children, while having a relatively carefree sexual life at the same time. If she’s fucking a guy and can’t tell if he’s worthy, and then decides that he doesn’t fall for her shit testing, she can withdraw hormonal birth control and have Alpha offspring. If, on the other hand, she gets knocked up by a man she later perceives as beta, she can excise the “parasite” and start over in search of an Alpha.

    A woman’s prerogative is to change her mind.

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    • I suppose my point is, if you’re a beta, you want to permit women the most slack to make poor choices in whom they may fuck, hoping against hope that they’re lax enough to make evolutionary “mistakes” with you which they can erase. You’re trading evolutionary relevance for a few loads blown into drunken sluts. Short term gain for long term failure.

      On the other hand, a true Alpha will always get laid, no matter the apparent consequences to women because they tacitly desire said consequences. In some cultures women get stoned for fucking around, and yet the chance of cuckolding their beta husbands for the chance of bearing the Sultan’s bastard spawn must be worth it, judging by the number of stonings.

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  68. I know you are a slam poetry aficionado Heartiste. Enjoy:

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  69. It’s a difficult question. All we can say with any confidence is that there’s no way a woman should be blamed. OMG! Shut up misogynists!

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  70. […] Here’s a theory which I don’t think has been expressed elsewhere, because it seems on the surface to challenge long-held conventional wisdom among the pro-truth, anti-feminist crowd that feminism was the result of an unruly alliance between alpha…  […]

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  71. Betas as “the bedrock of society” are at the very least responsible for maintaining feminism and all the other fun stuff. When you think about it, it’s amazingly retarded to be the provider to those who hate and exploit you, but neither on a personal level nor as a group do betas think very stringently or very far.

    Hope they enjoy the ride, they’re paying for it.

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  72. “Heartiste”

    Long story short, it all goes to Hell under a republicanist form of government. On the topic of betas, alphas and women – the betas let themselves be bludgeoned into submission by their wives who were following marching orders of the “Female Imperitive herd”. This happened while the alphas looked on in horror, and then compromised so that they could keep their “leadership” status.

    Weak frame all around, but it was the betas who let it happen due to following their own wives.

    Best regards,

    A.J.P.

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  73. Long story short, it all goes to Hell under a republicanist form of government. On the topic of betas, alphas and women – the betas let themselves be bludgeoned into submission by their wives who were following marching orders of the “Female Imperitive herd”. This happened while the alphas looked on in horror, and then compromised so that they could keep their “leadership” status.

    Weak frame all around, but it was the betas who let it happen due to following their own wives.

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  74. Hmm… but I’m beginning to suspect it is the betas that should always be blamed (not fully but mostly) because it is the alphas that have to look into each others’ eyes so as to trust the other alpha in order that they can co-operate and create something better. The betas will follow, because they’re… betas.

    A.J.P.

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  75. Your theory sounds very unlikely. A more likely explanation is that the average beta simply wasn’t prepared to oppose second-wave feminism.

    The two world wars, the Great Depression, the Civil Rights movement and the threat of nuclear war all caused a massive loss of cultural confidence in the Western system of enforced monogamy and Christian patriarchal values. Thus many betas obviously thought it’s not justifiable anymore to prevent women from gaining economic independence and sexual freedom, especially not in an era of unparalleled economic abundance. They simply didn’t believe the old rules can be further enforced.

    Many other betas were unhappy with their marriages and thought that reforming marriage is better than living in marriage 1.0 with a neurotic, fattening broad that isn’t sexually attracted to you while you work like an ox is no fun. They wanted their children to live under different rules. Many average women were frustrated with marriage 1.0, but many average men were as well.

    Yet another reason is that the sexual revolution was, by all accounts, characterized by average women having lots of casual sex with average men, so average men benefited from feminism in this way. Later, of course, it all changed as female hypergamy became more entrenched.

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  76. on September 28, 2013 at 2:37 am evilwhitemalempire

    Are Beta Males Responsible For Feminism?
    ———————–
    This guy certainly thinks so.

    http://seanmaccloud.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-and-why-feminism-happened.html

    See what you think.

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  77. I don’t think men are involved in feminist revolution at all..
    Nobody asked beta boys opinion.They are betas,at the end.They just do what womens tell them to do.

    And alphas,well they did not care they were fucking long legged beauties and worked their,usually intellectually uninspiring,careers.

    ps:my scandinavian colleague yesterday ran away from the packed with 9s club and a friendly female company early because he HAD TO MEET HIS GF IN THE AIRPORT in the morning (and their relationships is on the rocks).He did not want to drink “to be fresh”when meeting her!

    I have no hopes in men anymore.

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  78. The rise of the welfare state is what allowed consequence-free behavior to flourish.

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  79. Way back in the 1940s, Philip Wylie (a fascinating guy, by the way — he probably accomplished more in any given year of his life than all of us reading this blog will do in a decade) wrote a book called “Generation of Vipers” in which (among a lot of things) he talked about the growing problem of “Momism.”

    With the war going on, and then the shift to surburban commuter life for a lot of Americans, kids were raised in what were effectively single-parent households. Mom was the parent. Dad showed up at dinnertime and maybe was around on weekends.

    Wylie warned that this kind of female-centered household would have a negative effect on the rising generation of Americans (what we now call the “Baby Boomers”). He predicted they’d be feminized, self-absorbed yet unable to function as individuals.

    Nailed it, in other words.

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  80. Yesterday:

    Girl: Do you want to have babies?
    Me: Mmm, today? (asshole grin)

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  81. Check out some of the “beautiful” jooish founders of feminism at the bottom of the page. The “roots” are always at the bottom.

    http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/jewish-feminism-in-united-states

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    • For the idiots that don’t know the history of feminism. Check out the wiki’s article entitled “History of feminism”

      Here is just a sampling from that article. No Jooish women entered the fray until well after this became a worldwide movement, mostly in the 1960s and 1970s, so you antisemites need to STFU already. You sound ignorant, if not trying too hard to blame the Joo.

      “French writer Christine de Pizan (1364 – c. 1430), the author of The Book of the City of Ladies and Epître au Dieu d’Amour (Epistle to the God of Love) is cited by Simone de Beauvoir as the first woman to denounce misogyny and write about the relation of the sexes.[20] Other early feminist writers include Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa and Modesta di Pozzo di Forzi, who worked in the 16th century,[21] and the 17th-century writers Hannah Woolley in England,[22] Juana Inés de la Cruz in Mexico,[23] Marie Le Jars de Gournay, Anne Bradstreet, and François Poullain de la Barre.[21]

      One of the most important 17th-century feminist writers in the English language was Margaret Cavendish, Duchess of Newcastle-upon-Tyne.[24][25][26][why?]”

      “The Age of Enlightenment was characterized by secular intellectual reasoning and a flowering of philosophical writing. Many Enlightenment philosophers defended the rights of women, including Jeremy Bentham (1781), Marquis de Condorcet (1790), and, perhaps most notably, Mary Wollstonecraft (1792).[27]”

      “Perhaps the most cited feminist writer of the time was Mary Wollstonecraft, often characterized as the first feminist philosopher. A Vindication of the Rights of Woman (1792) is one of the first works that can unambiguously be called feminist,”

      “Other important writers of the time included Catherine Macaulay, who argued in 1790 that the apparent weakness of women was caused by their miseducation.[35] Hedvig Charlotta Nordenflycht wrote in Sweden.[clarification needed] The Natuurkundig Genootschap der Dames (Women’s Society for Natural Knowledge), considered the first scientific society for women, met regularly between 1785 and 1881 in Middelburg, southern Holland, and dissolved in 1887.[36][37] Journals for female scientists became popular during this period.[38]”

      “Frances Power Cobbe, among others, called for education reform, an issue that gained attention alongside marital and property rights, and domestic violence.

      Female journalists like Martineau and Cobbe in Britain, and Margaret Fuller in America, were achieving journalistic employment, which placed them in a position to influence other women. Cobbe would refer to “Woman’s Rights” not just in the abstract, but as an identifiable cause.

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    • From wiki’s article entitled “Christian feminism”

      “Christian feminists believe that God does not discriminate on the basis of biologically-determined characteristics such as sex and race. Their major issues include the ordination of women, male dominance in Christian marriage, recognition of equal spiritual and moral abilities, reproductive rights, and the search for a feminine or gender-transcendent divine.

      The term Christian egalitarianism is often preferred by those advocating gender equality and equity among Christians who do not wish to associate themselves with the feminist movement.

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  82. Oh boy, some zionist feminism !! Who would have thought ?

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/126348/when-feminists-were-zionists

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  83. Why are there so many jooish feminists ?? Why were there so many jooish communists ?? Think about it.

    http://forward.com/articles/2305/why-are-there-so-many-jewish-feminists/

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  84. Sure I’m of the opinion that Betas aka AFC’s are responsible for feminism and women who are gold-diggers, etc.

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    • At least she does understand how “emotionally slutty” (i.e. beta) males are undesirable as mates, which has been covered here.

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    • only in our ill and maladapted culture. women are living their golden age the last 60 years, and if they are lucky the next 10 or 20. there will be a comeuppance of biblical proportions lololol

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    • How old is she?She sounds way too confident for a >25.

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      • That’s just the thing. Over-25s are deluded and arrogant — oops, I mean “confident” — and don’t have the young-girl charm they had before they became soul-killed sluts.

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  85. « alpha males seeking to enlarge their pool of attractive, single women »

    Alphas didn’t really benefit from it: before feminism, they had a wife giving them legitimate children and mistresses giving them “illegitimate” children, after feminism (contraception, abortion), alphas “bang strippers with condoms” (Jack Donovan). Alphas are victims of feminism, like betas.

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  86. Ahhh, leave it to an American woman to write such a diatribe. LOL

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  87. Did beta males enjoin the feminist sabotage of civilization because they thought it would cramp the style of alpha males?

    In a word: “Yes!”

    Look at the movie Starship Troopers. It’s the beta male fantasy:
    (1) Girls with guns will play with us betas!
    (2) Afterwards, we all go to the co-ed shower room!

    I’ve seen beta males promote integrating women into the armed forces. Why? One reason is that the “Old Army” was a rough and tough place for more sensitive men. Lots of alpha males drinking, smoking, whoring about, etc. But you bring women into the Army, and suddenly everyone has to watch their language because no one can offend a female troop. (I’ll comment some other time on the contradiction that if women are “equal” to men they have to also be protected from pinups and salacious jokes.)

    Anyway, with women toting guns out in the boonies with men, it was the great big fantasy for betas, fulfilled. Of course, it didn’t work out. Given that men outnumber women in the military by a large factor, female troops found themselves in a situation in which they have their pick of males. As usual, females flocked to the small number of alphas. And because of female influence in the military, there have been bans on such things as porn magazines, strip club sorties, and consorting with prostitutes. So now it is even worse for betas who can not indulge in the usual means to deal with sexual frustrations.

    Yeah, there may be co-ed showers on some forward operations base on the other side of Qandahar. But any beta male who checks out a female bod’ while passing the soap is engaging in a career-ending-move if some female troop squeals and stamps her feet about an “atmosphere of hostility.”

    Think betas will learn from their experience?

    One hopes so, but it’s doubtful.

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  88. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-conference-exclusive-donors-are-deserting-the-conservatives-for-ukip-8846599.html

    Interesting development in British politics. Donors have started leaving the Tories for the UKIP.

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  89. Helen Thomas Says Jews Stole Israel

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  90. Interview with Michael Scheuer,, retired CIA Agent.

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  91. Hey Yareally, left a long friday FR that’s still in mod. Writing up saturday one. Hopefully CH approves these…

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  92. Here’s a question:

    If the Joo-haters were just a bunch of moby trolls trying to discredit CH and Game in general by posting a bunch of crap to make people think we’re all fanboys of Uncle Dolphie, how would the comments look any different?

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    • Lily wouldn’t be around for one.

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    • Can’t you see what they are doing? They turn every thread into white trashery dumpster diving. Hey, I guess, they like diving in excrement.

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      • Listen self righteous hypocrite bitch, the only consistent input you provide here is your incessant defense trolling of the joos. You couldn’t give two shits about game and alpha males, primarily, because no alpha in his right mind would ever touch you putrid cunt hole. Now go back to the zionist hell that spawned you.

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      • My trolling???
        How about your campaign of slander trolling?
        Obviously, you have no life, because that’s your life. Jew slander defines your existence; it gives you meaning.

        You speak about “game and alpha males” ? When do you ever post about that? Never! In contrast to you, I post a lot about it, but I get sidetracked by your Jew hate. It’s the most unsightly thing I have encountered.

        BTW, your anger is exactly what I was hoping to inspire. I love the hypocrisy you oooze, limp dick. When was your dick hard last? When you saw your dog lick his balls? Or, was it when you read one more conspiracy theory about them Joojooz? Fucking disgusting!

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      • You’re the one who comes on here to “refute all we say.” If we were so insignificant, you wouldn’t be so aggressive and determined in your efforts. Obviously we scare you. Frankly, these conversations become inflated in size due to you and your stalking every single comment we make, sometimes 2 or 3 times. I used to find you amusing now you’re just a nuisance.

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      • Hey CD, how about we all make a pact to ignore the khazarian troll. I wouldn’t mind having a conversation with her, but her debating tactics are just plain boring.You might have noticed that she mainly ignores things that she cant refute, disprove, or doesn’t want to address while constantly screaming that shes “right ” because she says so. In her world, anything counter to her opinion automatically comes from “conspiracy theory ” websites. Its like debating the validity of the bible with a hardcore fundamentalist Christian. In other words, what’s the point ?

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      • I’ve been thinking the same. Agreed. I prefer to simply point out what I’ve seen and learned without gallons and gallons of squid ink from our favorite Yenta. Now I know why J-wish guys seem so downtrodden.

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      • No Carlos. Let’s review. This used to be a game blog. Then antisemtes jumped on it thinking that if CH criticizes the culture it gives them carte blanch to turn this into a Jew hate fest. And this is what it has turned into – Jew hate fest.

        And, no you don’t scare me. You think that if I refute your garbage then it means you scare me. LOL. it’s simply how you justify your lack of potency. Stupid men of your type don’t scare me. You wouldn’t be able to do anything on your own, except follow shills that will use you one day if they ever get power. But you on your own are nothing but withered leaves flying in the wind.

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      • on October 4, 2013 at 9:31 am Toffee Hammer

        Lily, be quiet, and let the men here refute irrationally anti-semitic behaviour. Your jihad against it, as a self-identified woman, detracts credibility from your cause.

        (You could post here with a gender-neutral username, you know.)

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  93. on September 29, 2013 at 10:44 am gunslingergregi

    being a hot blond ain’t all its cracked up to be I guess
    i’m at club having fun with my new blond chick she dressed to fuckin impress
    we turn around and this chick standing there with this look on her face of pure hate
    i’m like whats up my chick like do I know you
    chick starts swinging on her
    the weird chick ended up back with the dj on the ground
    I pushed em apart
    then I got grabbed from behind by bouncer and shit but chick was drunk to do shit
    they kicked her ass out
    normally chicks just stare at chicks i’m with and shit or grab my ass
    new blond like that normal for bitches to be that jealous of her
    we were in wrong club anway I guess all these other bitches in jeans and tshirt my bitch was in the hot ass dress stiletto boots matching jewelry to the dress and shit lookin hot

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    • on September 29, 2013 at 10:58 am gunslingergregi

      she hung at the crib all day we cuddled up and shit this bitches putty was on fire with the verbal game he he he
      I was even bustin on her bout the shit
      making fun of her for her ass keep catching on fire it was fun times
      she like you talk to me like i’m one of the boys
      i’m like yea I want your opinion on my life plan and shit not like i’m trying to marry you or some shit we ain’t like that I just like you and we have fun
      on fire he he he
      its like I was in the zone seeing the numbers in matrix and shit
      and could command her pussy to light up
      or maybe she got her pussy trained like that who knows lol

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  94. on September 29, 2013 at 11:09 am gunslingergregi

    she said last week when I took her out she never felt like that before or had that much fun ever
    she tryin to game the shit out of me he he he
    this same one last year that was on point for that week till exchick came back and kicked her to curb lol

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  95. on September 29, 2013 at 11:45 am gunslingergregi

    oh yea bar before that she took me to this smalltown place
    this dude come up shakes my hand talking he like her brother and I better take good care of her or he’ll fuck me up or some shit
    I was like really one arm picked him up over my shoulder got all loud and shit
    then started laughin he he he
    she knew everyone in there though
    so I guess now ya know how I would handle getting amogd and shit in the bitches lair

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    • on September 29, 2013 at 9:52 pm gunslingergregi

      third place we went was strip club she called stripper over was throwing dollars at the chick telling her to work for me and shit
      we were intoxicated at this point
      she was trying to get stripper to basically fuck me on the stage lol we got asked to leave they were very polite though

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      • on September 29, 2013 at 9:53 pm gunslingergregi

        we go to another bar walkin this chick orders 12 more shots and we drink em lol ok I haven’t been that drunk maybe ever I don’t know

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      • on September 29, 2013 at 9:57 pm gunslingergregi

        so i’m in the ambulance and uhh hear the guy talkin bout they gave me 12 shots of something and shit allready he he he
        I am actually invincible

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      • “get out of the car man that’s gas leaking”

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      • on September 29, 2013 at 10:10 pm gunslingergregi

        I wasn’t stupid enough to drive the bitch was
        car is completely fucked

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 2:51 am gunslingergregi

        I guess not all bad I told blond other chick taking me to football game and she brought me a team jersey brand new and shit to wear
        not bad he he he
        she really tryin this time

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 7:52 am gunslingergregi

        dam other bitch actin all hard and shit like you need to come live with me so you don’t have shit like this happen lol i’ll take care of you
        gtfo
        she trying to seize the day and shit
        ok this shit totally fucking switched around at this point

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 7:56 am gunslingergregi

        my post got eaten but seriously
        I played the blonds pussy like a violin with words
        it was like i broke the code
        i was even fuckin with her about it
        say some shit pussy hot as fuck
        go normal
        i saw some shit
        hot as fuck
        i was owning her lust like on command and shit
        it was off the chain

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 7:58 am gunslingergregi

        got bitches trying to save me now hahahahahahahahhahah

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      • on September 30, 2013 at 8:00 am gunslingergregi

        i’ll say one thing or American bitches i didn’t think they could be there for us motherfuckers with the fucked up heads from Iraq and shit but yea they were there for me and got me through some shit when i haven’t been able to be with the wife
        they also tried to make me crazy too though lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  96. Off topic, question for girls/women:

    Do you ever feel the fear that your husband or future husband will molest your daughter? How do you get rid of this irrational fear?
    I know most fathers are really protective and would never do anything to their daughters but I’m not so young anymore and my future daughter will obviously be younger and more attractive. I know this sounds crazy and I really want to stop thinking about it. What should I do? Again, I know that most fathers are not like that and the likelihood of this happening is minimal but still … I’m afraid.

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  97. Women love Nazis because women love both bad-boys and power.

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  98. Yeah, Helen Tomas would know. LOL! Her words mean shit. An antisemite who looks like the wicked witch of the east can’t see shit except her liberalism She is a notorious lefty. I thought, Carlos, you hated the liberals, eh? Maybe, not so much, eh? I suppose, like Hit-ler you make alliances with whomever hates the Jews.
    “Top Ten most Left-Biased American Journalists – #1: Helen Thomas, UPI/Independent”
    http://www.publiusforum.com/2010/07/23/top-ten-most-left-biased-american-journalists-1-helen-thomas-upiindependent/

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  99. Michael Scheueris an antisemite on fire, so anything he says is suspect.
    What he said on C-span was proof enough.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2424164/posts

    “The clown Scheuer was in charge of the Bin Laden desk at CIA under Clinton. That’s all you need to know about that crowd.” He’s also anti-American, anti-Bush. Men like him (as some here) think Israel is more a danger to America than Islam. Ugh!

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    • Anything that is critical of Those of Whom We Do Not Speak is anti-Semitic. Funny how that doesn’t apply to them in reverse when they criticize us, the “Other White Americans.”

      The European TWWDNS did indeed invade Palestine and kick people out of their homes. Everyone felt sorry for them and turned a blind eye so to speak and the Rothschilds paid Harry Truman $2 million to recognize Israel. I believe the policy was called “establishing facts on the ground.” I’m surprised she left so much out actually. You’re a professional provocateur employed to spread squid ink over verifiable facts to control damage.

      Our policy in the Middle East has been disastrous. Perhaps we should listen to men like Scheuer. I’m sure he has more credence than you.

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      • Haha! I am not a provocateur, paid by anyone, and frankly, I don’t have to waste too much time refuting his busllshit. I linked a website that isn’t even Jewish. The commentators see through your hero. I even got educated reading their comments.

        Furthermore, anyone who knows a bit about history knows the Arab claim is as bogus as the Khazars, the Protocols, and many other antisemtimic claims, you idiots hang on to, like a skydiver hangs on to his parachute. You have nothing to hold on to but hearsay and the fantastical claims of bizzaros like Helen Thomas and this clown, who unfortunately was running policy in the Clinton years, and ran us to the ground. We got attacked by Bin laden because of idiots like him, who were too worried about Israel but not about the Arabs. Grasping at straws is what I call his screwed up mind.

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      • Furthermore, the Rothschilds didn’t pay Truman anything; no one did. He recognized Israel because it already existed, de facto. And he did it after Stalin recognized Israel first (as peculiar as that was, since he was a real Jew hater).

        The only thing that might have influenced Truman ever so slightly was that he had a Jewish childhood friend. A very close friend, and even though Truman was no Jew lover, he did like his Jewish friend very much. That friend indeed exerted some influence over him.

        That said, whether America recognized Israel or not, wouldn’t have made a difference. America didn’t help Israel in the War of Independence in 1948. It sent no ammunition or any type of support. The Jews won that war out of God’s sheer providence; simply because it was meant to be for them to return to their ancestral homeland. Germany almost wiped them out, Great Britain reneged on her promises, America didn’t want to get involved (and abstained), but God kept his promises to them.

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  100. Marvin Hagler has entered the building.

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  101. on September 29, 2013 at 9:20 pm The Scolds' Bridle

    Beta males are essentially trying to outdo each other as “nice guy” martyrs to the Golden V.

    When some mangina rails on and on about how men are the source of all evil, he is metaphorically strapping explosives to his identity as a male, hoping that there is redemption in gender self-immolation.

    But his reward is just 72 harridans.

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    • on October 4, 2013 at 9:28 am Toffee Hammer

      And explosives literally get strapped to his male primary sex organs: I know far too many beta males who have resorted to transsexuality and/or orchidectomy (removal of the testicles).

      It’s a cryin’ shame. Some of them are the smartest people I know, and they’re throwing it all away because they truly believe being a female is superior to being male.

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  102. Such a nice Gentile-supporting feminists, eh? Even if just in spirit. Those bitches don’t deserve any support, yet lefty idiots like him do provide sustenance. Imagine if a Jew said that? The uproar this would cause here.

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/23/ted-turner-says-men-should-be-banned-from-politics-for-100-years-video/

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    • See Lily, if you had a boy of your own, you wouldn’t need to bother us boys. You’re like the annoying little sister that no one wants to let into the boys’ hideaway.

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  103. on September 30, 2013 at 2:09 am Imperial leather

    here’s a model that partially ‘seems’ to explain it

    Grave Values Level 6 – Green

    Focus on involvement and gaining consensus/agreement. Seeks peace with inner self and to gain contact with the inner self of others. Core values around fairness and equality with the desire to free the human spirit from exploitation. Has generated the women’s movement and the civil rights movement in the last century. Wishes to eliminate poverty, racism, chauvinism and other forms of divisiveness.

    http://www.vievolve.com/values-systems-4/

    lots of interesting suppositions and correlations to be made if that’s what your looking for

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  104. Interesting, I just banged a Swedish-Chinese girl. She moved to Sweden from China to study. We started talking about the man/woman dynamic–something I often do when I’m escalating. It helps to both build comfort and attraction while moving the conversation to something sexual.

    She was saying that the “equalization” of Swedish society had made men “less masculine”. So many Swedish women were running off with “Black guys”—these are all her words.

    Women may not articulate as concisely and crudely as this but feminism and equality is frankly one big shit-test.

    If you plough through like I did saying “Feminism is all a bunch of bullshit, men are men and women are women…” you can both smash the shit test, differentiate yourself from other guys (“No one’s ever said it quite as bluntly as you just did”) and bang the chicks betas are trying to “equalize”…

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  105. What’s bogus about Khazars?

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    • Their claim to Palestine.

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      • True dat, but my heart bleeds not for the followers of Mohamet, either. And goim, for the believers in nationalist/racialist identitiy, have no reason to be too proud of the circumstances, either.

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  106. A trivial question for the connoisseurs. My attempts to extirpate my go-to suplicant posture from my speech (aka “permission boy”) left me sounding bitchy/whiny quite often. Any advice/direction how could I improve on that?.

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    • on October 4, 2013 at 9:23 am Toffee Hammer

      Find things to do to make you feel masculine. Lift more, essentially. Clean up your diet.

      Talk less. Men don’t need to be talking all the time. (Woman’s job is to talk; man’s job is to pretend to listen to her whilst thinking about useful things, which the man then goes and does.)

      Do more. Be aware you are signing up for a higher-T lifestyle, which means walking around all day feeling you are utterly awesome, being full of murderous rage, being attractive to women without even trying, and not giving a fuck about anything.

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  107. That’s a lot of my’s.

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  108. Friday FR:

    After watching the 1-hour infleld footage video from RSD, headed out and went out with my wing. His commitment to the game has been questionable in the past, but whatever, he’s here now so we do a quick warmup (high fiving and saying hi to random girls) and then walk right into a bar and talk to the first girls we see. It was still pretty early in the night so not a lot of people.

    Basically nothing to record on this set. We talked for maybe 20-25 mins and there was no real sexual tension happening in the 2-set. I was kind of waiting for my buddy to do something cuz several times I implied we should leave the set, but he kept talking so I was like, fine lets keep talking. Did some awkward kino (yeah it really is weird if the touching isn’t natural lol) so we finally bounce out and hit the streets.

    We try to talk to blonde 2-set and they ignore us, that’s fine (our pull was weak to be honest, we didn’t really try). Nonetheless we keep going.

    I starting singing about getting laid “BAAAAALLLLSS DEEEEEEP” and we’re just having a good time (in state basically). And then I try and dance with this girl outside of a store (she’s with her friend). I put her hand on my shoulder and we start dancing. She laughs and doesn’t make eye contact. I laugh and say, you’re ruining our first date.

    Her friend doesn’t seem to care, thinks its funny. Meanwhile the girl i’m with is acting really awkward. I try to lace our fingers together but she moves her hand away completely. So i’m like “oh, you’re just awkward”. She bursts out laughing and I spin her around (really just to look at her ass lol) and she’s like “I don’t even know your name!” We exchange names and then she looks into the store and starts walking away and these two dudes come out lol

    Apparently she had a bf…

    Anyway, I go down the street and a group of girls are walking past. My friend tries to open one of the girls half assed. He does this all the time and I’m like dude, that’s not how you do it. Tyler says you have to walk with her and she has to her you talk/convey your personality:

    Never tried it before lol so i do just that and bam it works:

    Me: Hey I think you’re cute.
    Her: (no response)
    Me: (Now walking with her) Do you know why we should be together? Cuz see you’re hair is really wavy and mine’s really curly. See it works, like seriously (lol)
    Her: lol
    Me: Alright stop for a sec.

    She stops and tries to talk but her friend pulls her away saying “like seriously, we have to go”

    Whatever on a single girl it would’ve worked 😀

    We walk down the street some more (saw quite a few chode crystals…lol sorry, we saw a lot) and I see this HB9 (seriously done up to the nines or whatever they call it) at the ATM. I’m like looking incredibly shitty (haven’t shaved in weeks, holes in my hoodie, messy hair) so I’m like yeah definitely time to approach.

    Me: Hey I don’t want your money, but we should totally dance.
    Her: Lol
    Me: You can keep your gross money, the only green i like is weed.
    Her: But I have a bf!
    Me: Don’t worry I’m not the jealous type.
    She finishes getting her cash and I try and escalate on her but she says she has a bf and she has friends she has friends who are single.

    Honestly, I could’ve gotten her number and asked her to introduce me to her friends… but when I saw her facing me completely… i was just like… wow… HOW THE FUCK AM I TALKING TO YOU lol

    I was just like, okay… lol (drool)

    So I let her leave… (facepalm)

    But I’m like SUPER excited that I talked to this amazing looking girl.

    Walk to another bar and outside is this group of girls. One of the girls is another smoking hot girl in a freaking skin tight dress. I’m like… um yeah, I want that lol

    I walk right into the group grab her and start dancing with her and turn her away from her friends. She’s loving it.

    Me: so what should we do on our first date?
    Her: Lol
    Me: I think I’m love seriously.
    Her: Lol
    Me: You are ruining our first date!
    I stop dancing and I pull her in close. Our bodies are touching and she’s like “that’s my bf right there”. I turn and see some dude 10 feet away.
    Me: Seriously, thats your bf?
    Her: (smiles, no answer)
    Me: Are you serious?
    Her: Lol

    I back off and then her and her friends leave without the dude… failed a shit test right there…. lol

    I should’ve been like, wanna make him jealous? or that I’m not the jealous type line I use whenever girls mention bfs.

    I swear I could’ve made out with her right there wtf…

    Anyway, we go to this other bar (a lotta bars in this place) and i approach these 3 older women (30s, i’m 23) and I’m like cool, there’s a cute blonde here and I’m ready. I unknowingly drop into a minefield of shittests.

    We appoach the three bitches and i’m like blah (I forget the line, doesn’t matter)
    and i was trying to do the instant escalate thing with my target and instantly she’s like nah. so i’m like, okay time to bust out my verbal game lol. So i neg her with:
    “is that your real hair color”
    Her: “no its brown” (it was dyed blonde)
    Me: “oh… it’s still nice tho. You’re a nurse right?”
    Her: blah blah blah she’s a flaming hoola hop person
    which i thought was cool

    Basically i just kept talking cuz everything i was saying was amusing myself like, “how do you sign up to be a circus freak? etc”. At some point i’m laughing at myself and she’s like “you’re not good at picking up girls are you?”
    and i was like “nah, i suck at it” lol
    thinking back on it now i shoulda said “i eat girls like you for breakfast”
    Then one of the other girls was basically trying to break my frame and get me to feel awkward. I say something else and she’s like “is that your pickup line?”
    and i’m like “Well we’ve already started talking so… lol”.
    Bam, got her ass! But i’m like kinda feeling self conscious so i tell her the ring finger routine. It’s like comfort stuff so i’m not sure why i’m using it at this point thinking back on it now… whatever lol.

    Her: Does this usually work on other girls?
    Me: Nah, only the cute ones… the ugly ones are too smart (lol?)

    So basically i’m all over the place and i bring her friend in (how do you know each other) and she’s also dumping on me
    Friend: “Why are you still here”
    Me: Cuz I’m masochistic”

    Eventually they kinda just turn away to talk to each other and I’m like YES! didn’t eject. So I’m like eh, wanna talk to other girls so I say we’re leaving and my target smiles at me and says bye. Not sure if it was a fake smile or real smile but whatever, good experience of not bailing lol.

    We go to another bar, talk to some okay girls (nothing hard really). And then my friend leaves, wants to bang one of his regulars. Says I should stay and I don’t cuz… I dunno, I just didn’t want to (excuse I know).

    There are a few other interactions I haven’t put up from last weekend that involved shittesting and frame control stuff, but yeah this seems like a lot of progress. The awkwardness is dying (yay thought it never would).

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  109. on October 1, 2013 at 5:36 am gunslingergregi

    dam i guess if ya do get in adventures like i tend too have full coverage grrr

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  110. on October 4, 2013 at 9:26 am Toffee Hammer

    Beta males are entirely responsible for the rise of feminism. I seem to be surrounded by these fellows. I’ll throw in male-to-female transsexuals as well, who seem to be a dime a dozen and are the epitomy of both beta-ness, feminism, and self-loathing.

    My lesbian friends are less feminist than these guys. Ask ’em about child support/child custody? “It should be 50/50, and nobody should get $1000/mo just for having a kid.” Ask one of my beta male friends? They wax poetic about how hard women’s lives are and how they deserve to be provided for/taken care of when their evil husband stops being attractive to them.

    Sometimes I think we need to find more allies (to steal a feminist term) in the homosexual & lesbian communities. Homosexual men ignore female behaviour, and lesbians don’t tolerate feminine misbehaviour in their partners.

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  111. […] Poor pathetic beta male feminists. Little did they realize that helping women become economically se… […]

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