Does Your Wife Look Like She Could Be Your Daughter Or Your Mother?

Commenter Aspiring Asshole stumbles onto a mellow-harshing truth:

So here I am, early 50’s, lifelong beta, chained to a bloated slob. Will probably take care of here to the end but would like to snag a bit of life before it’s too far gone. Discovered ‘game’ within this last year and have been soaking up as much as possible, mostly here at CH, damn this place is rich!

Most new people think my wife is my mother, creates much discomfort, and I have to bite my lip to keep from laughing.

I’m in good shape, I lift, and I look pretty young. I can catch the attention, but where to go with it is where I’m lost. Just had another interaction at the grocery and couldn’t come up with a damn thing to say, so I’m asking for examples of how to play this latest incident out.

Mid 30’s 7 in shorts bouncing around with a 8-10 year old kid in the dept. store, catch her checking me once. I get my stuff and go to the nearby grocery. I see her in the grocery and end up behind her in line. No ring, banters around with the cashier about which kind of apple she bought and was it better than the one the kid bought. She then made a comment about the noisy conveyor and that something must be done. She had a playful manner about her and she looked back at me a couple times seeking some interaction I believe, and I couldn’t come up with anything.

Would be interested in hearing some ideas, maybe get my brain working in the right direction for next time.

A good measure of the manly life well-lived is whether your wife looks more like she could be your mother or your daughter. If you routinely date, and/or are married to, women who could age-wise pass for your daughter (or at least your younger sister), you’re doing something right. If people mistake your gf/wife for your mother, my friend your game is weak.

Regarding A.A.’s game-related question about a chatty cutie in a grocery store check-out line, so many pickup avenues were open that it’s hard to say any one would be better than another. Just off the top of my head, if I were there I would have made a comment about her apple choice, chiding her for her inferior apple variety, and suggesting some other expensive breed “if it’s not too hoity-toity” for her. Mild teasing, a bit o’ disqualification, and then a rebuke accusing her of “breaking the conveyor” for attention. Or maybe I would’ve told her she looks more like a banana gal, if I was feeling especially saucy.

But, really, any response would’ve beaten saying nothing. Even something lame. Too many men get wrapped up in their heads trying to think of witty replies to girls, and the result is a try-hard mess of confusion passing for banter, or tongue-tied silence. Wit is great to call upon in a pinch, but if you aren’t naturally witty the next best thing is saying whatever shit comes to mind. The important thing is not the words, but the attitude with which you speak them.

If you’re honestly stuck for ideas, just repeat what a girl says back to her, reworded slightly for a human effect. For instance, you’ve overheard a woman talking to the cashier about the type of apple she bought, and how it compares to her kid’s apple? Say, “You wondering if you bought the right apple?”, and stop there. Nine times out of ten she’ll reply in a manner that will open the conversation and supply you with “banter bait” that you can use to push more energy into the interaction. Men tend to underestimate how easy women will make it for them if the men give it the college try. Once a man has proven his boldness in action by breaking through the invisible wall of silence and self-doubt, women will happily cooperate to ensure that a fledgling flirtation is given a chance to breathe.





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  1. It’s hard to imagine the shame a man must feel to have his wife mistaken for his mother. If that’s not a call to action then I don’t know what is.

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    • I can’t comprehend how a woman would hear that said of her and not begin a desperate all-out effort to salvage her health and appearance.

      As for the Aspiring Asshole’s decision to stick it out with the old crone he married, think of it this way: any woman he bangs can’t hope to marry him as long as he remains married. Despite the appearance of his wife, she’s still a kind of prequalification. If he’s got kids with her, doubly so.

      If he’s got the cash, I say it’s time a for a midlife-crisis motorcycling and weightlifting regimen. Time to start frequenting biker clubs and bars, bang the groupies, then go home to the old lady and play sweet in public.

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    • lzolzozlolzo mzgzlzozozozo

      The following is from Theozoology (Theozolzolzlzzlzozlology) by Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels (1905):

      “As highly as we honor the wife in the family and in the home, we must just as intensely fight against the intrusion of women into public life, because the ultimate outcome of these efforts would be, and to some extent is already, unilateral women’s rights, which would make the world into a big brothel in which everything revolves around penises and pussies in a silly and absurd satyrs’ orgy while the proper wife, the loyal mother of the house, and the healthy strong troop of children will be mercilessly driven out of the chaste and legitimate home. No one other than those women with their lascivious ape-like natures destroyed the cultures of antiquity and they will bring down our culture as well if men do not stop and think soon.”

      He continues:

      “Dear ladies, tell me honestly, whose wives would you be today if noble men, if god-like Siegfrieds, had not torn you away from the Sodomite monsters, if they had not put you in warm nests, if they had not defended you — sword in hand — throughout thousands and thousands of years against Slavs, Mongols, Moors and Turks? Choose between us and those sons of Sodom, have yourselves sexually serviced on the mound of corpses of your husbands who fell in battle — as so many of your mothers’ mothers did! Take them to your husbands’ houses, so they can make harem slaves of you, so you can become the mother of a brood of lascivious, bloodthirsty beasts, who know no motherly or wifely love! What woman is today she has become thanks to the sword and power of man. Man wrestled woman from the apes of Sodom, and for this reason she is his property!”

      lzlozzollzlzoolzolzol

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      • he lost me at, “ladies, tell me honestly.”

        What woman can do that? News flash- men didn’t defend women as a charity or because of nobility, they did it because DNA propagation demands it. Women should be regarded in this sense like a herd animal that will happily wander off with another shepherd if prodded to. Your cattle don’t much care whose pens they are in.

        The error was in men’s not having enough self-actualization, and in looking for the woman to validate them. Jorg falls into the same trap.

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      • They used the word pussies in 1905?

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    • hey heratitssttezesz!! heratsietzttesz!!! da GBFM has da same problemslzlzlzl!!!

      So here I am, early 50’s, lifelong alpha, chained to a harem of hotties. Will probably not take care of them to the end but would like to snag a bit of your wife before she’s too far gone. Discovered ‘game’ within my first year and have been soaking up as much as possible, mostly here at CH, damn this place is rich!

      Most new people think my harem are my daughters, creates much discomfort, and I have to bite her nipple to keep from laughing.

      I’m in good shape, I lift, and I look pretty young. I can catch the attention, and where to go with it is where I’m never lost. Just had another interaction at the grocery and couldn’t come up with a damn thing to say as I came on her face, so I’m asking for examples of how to play this latest incident out.

      Early 20’s 10 in shorts bouncing around with a 8-10 more sorority sisters kid in the dept. store, catch her checking my lostas cockas once. I get my magnum condoms and go to the nearby grocery. I see her in the grocery and end up behind them all in line. No rings, banters around with the cashier about which kind of apple she bought and was it better than the one the kid bought. She then made a comment about the noisy conveyor and that something must be done. She had a playful manner about her and she reached back and fondled my lotas cockas a couple times seeking some interaction I believe, and I couldn’t come up with anything as I came on her butt.

      Would be interested in hearing some ideas, maybe get my brain working in the right direction for next time, so I can get her and her sorority sisters to film a hentai pron scene before da GBFM cums lzlzlzolzolzlzol

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    • Poppy Bush seemed to live through it.

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  2. on November 9, 2015 at 7:20 am elmer t. jones

    As an older fella I have come to the conclusion that a man should be at least 10 years older than his wife.

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    • on November 9, 2015 at 7:34 am elmer t. jones

      In some cultures it is considered normal for an older man to take on a concubine and maintain his socially respected marriage. In our culture she literally is a ball and chain and he will be excoriated and ruined if he deviates from this.

      At one branch of Encorpera where I worked before the tsunami of feminization, when a young engineer was getting married they would chase him around the building with a bowling ball attached to a chain and would padlock it to him so he had to carry it around with him all day.

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      • That is awesome. Give the poor bastard a little taste of what’s to come to see if he *really* wants to go through with it lol

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    • As a general rule, I would agree. Woman tend not to gain wisdom or grace as they age. So as they pass their ‘first death’ your left dealing with an ugly sexless teenager.

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    • Aspiring asshole should seek out and do cool shit. That’s life. There will be hoez there chasing after guys who do cool shit.

      Leave the whale beached at home. If she wants a divorce, good riddance.

      If this were a feminist blog, the posters would be counseling her on how to prep her exit, hiding money, documenting “abuse” and all the rest of that so as to maximize her take in divorce court.

      AA should get out and live life, pussy will come on its own, so will the words to say. Confidence inspires words and whatever Tom Brady says is ok, even if Tom Brady stutters. Tom Brady stuttering during a pickup is “oh wow he was sooooooo cute the way he stuttered.” If a beta does it, “omg what a loser.”

      JFC, how many movie clips have we seen where the lead actor does some amazing, sweeping romantic gesture and the girl eats it up? Girls love that shit from alphas and guys they’re into. They hate it from guys they’re not and from betas. The same exact act is either the sexiest thing ever done or the creepiest depending on who does it.

      If a girl is signaling interest, even “do you like apples?” will do. Anything. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

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    • As an older fella with a lostas cockasz I have come to the conclusion that a man should be at least 15 years older than his harem.

      lzlzlzlzoozzoloozo

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    • Why is why 15 year old girls should be hitched to established 25-30 year old men.

      Both sexes receive their optimal due.

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    • on November 9, 2015 at 4:00 pm ch occasional reader

      Honestly, I think 6 or 7 is about right. A well preserved, in shape girl will always look young to you then, but she will be physically and generationally on the same wave length; companionship is one reason for marriage.

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  3. Hi, this is offtopic but just crossed my mind: How do you handle a bossy gf?

    [CH: with two in the pink and one in the stink.]

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  4. on November 9, 2015 at 7:22 am elmer t. jones

    Off-topic but current events oriented.

    I am not on “twitter” but a funny hashtag would be @blackslikeme.

    Lottsa laffs. Get it? Blacks Like Me.

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    • on November 9, 2015 at 7:23 am elmer t. jones

      Oops I meant #blackslikeme.

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 8:29 am Captain Obvious

        ETJ – The Donald will get the 25% of the Black Vote which isn’t completely nuts [which is what you’re seeing]. But as to the other 75% of the BV which is completely incorrigible, apparently there are vicious riots at U-Missouri right now, over whether the President of the school is sufficiently “sensitive” to “claims” of racial slurs on campus. Even the football players are joining in. Without googling, I can guarantee you that Eskimo George Soros’s operatives are fueling this rage, just like they did in Ferguson.

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 8:37 am mendozatorres

        What’s with Missouri? First Ferguson, now this.

        Gateway to the west my ass!

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 8:41 am Captain Obvious

        ETJ, the other question would be what that potentially-winnable 25% of the BV thinks of Ben Carson. The BV rallied hard and forcefully around Clarence Thomas [and against Anita Hill] when the Eskimos [e.g. Nina Totenberg] tried to destroy him. But CT is an exceptionally masculine dude, with an ultra-deep voice, and of course he’s a power-lifter. Whereas Carson has a very high-pitched voice, and basically whines & lisps just like a sterotypical White sh!tlib from the Gramscian Cocoon of Anti-Reality. In that respect, Sheriff David Clarke might be a vastly better “crossover” running mate for The Donald [note that I am on record as being very intrigued by James Webb].

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 8:50 am Captain Obvious

        ETJ, getting kinda back on topic, and the question of wives -vs- mothers -vs- sisters, I am also intrigued by these CLAIMS by Carson that he went after his mother with a hammer, and tried to kill another boy with a knife [and went after another kid with something heavy like a padlock?]. The Donald is “hammering” Carson on that this morning – “First time in history that a candidate can only win if he proves that he reallly attacked his mother with a hammer…” So is Carson just another jive-talking noggish con-artist, who completely fabricated his upbringing, just like Barry Soebarkah Dunham, or is Carson the Real McCoy?

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      • whaddyou mean with that last question, is Carson just another jivetalker…he’s a nog ain’t he?

        Oh what, you thought he beed differents cuz he speaks in complete sentences?

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 9:25 am Captain Obvious

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 9:26 am Captain Obvious

        So Carson married his mother, Clarke married a mudshark, and Webb was a Beta who had to settle for a gook-ette?

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      • CLAIMS by Carson that he went after his mother with a hammer, and tried to kill another boy with a knife [and went after another kid with something heavy like a padlock?].

        Him being a negro, I wouldn’t doubt it… you know, the ol’ ‘can’t take the jungle out of the boy’ maxim.

        But something is telling me he’s merely trying to make Trump (and perhaps Putin?) believe he’s a badass.

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      • Yo, Cap’n… could you NOT post pictures of cute blondes with n1ggers? 😡

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 9:48 am Captain Obvious

        Vintage Photo of Mrs Clarence Thomas:

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 9:52 am Captain Obvious

        > “whaddyou mean… is Carson just another jivetalker” ——— Did he fake his biography [just like Barry]? Did he he succesfully dis-conjoin the pediatric siamese twins? Was he completely incompetent and essentially murdering his patients all those years, and Johns Hopkins covered up for him because of political correctness?

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 9:58 am Captain Obvious

        > “cute blondes with n1ggers” ——— GE, The Donald has to decide whether to choose [the very weak on immigration] Ben Carson as his running mate, which means whether or not The Donald should move now to destroy the guy. Obviously The Donald has to obliterate both the Eskimo Sephardic Cuban Marco Rubio and the Chamber of Commerce’s El Jeb. But if The Donald destroys Ben Carson, then there could be he11 to pay with the Evangelical Vote, and a Sheriff David Clarke MIGHT restore some of the Evangelicals’ fervor, plus pull in ETJ’s black readership [as above].

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 10:07 am elmer t. jones

        seen here for the first time :

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 10:12 am Captain Obvious

        > “What’s with Missouri?” ——— MT, it’s Askenazic Eskimo Soros’s people fueling the incineration of The Shining City of the Hill, just like they did with Ferguson and with the Confederate Flag. This morning, Fox News ran video of the riot at the University, but I can’t seem to find the video online. And just since we got on this topic, the President of the University has announced his resignation. And of course Barry Soebarkah Dunham – who HATES his white mother, and who married his nog father – is pleased as punch with these developments.

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 10:30 am elmer t. jones

        no,

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      • It would be a huge mistake for Trump to pick Carson as a running mate. First of all, we have reached peak negro and it is time to try something different. Second, Carson is a neophyte like Trump. It would be the blind leading the blind. Trump needs to pick a Pol who is established and knows his way around the Hill to reassure the public. Almost like the boy Obama did with the adult Biden.

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      • The guy between Sharpton and Brown is a token Arab – “See, we’re not all niggers.”

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      • Damn, I ask him not to, and he goes ahead and does it again.

        Surrounded by assassins, I am. 😡

        Thus saith the Scriptures:
        And a man’s enemies shall be those of his own house.

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 11:29 am Captain Obvious

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 11:37 am Captain Obvious

        > “we have reached peak negro… Trump needs to pick a Pol who is established” ——— George Soros just got the President of the University of Missouri fired [in a state with a DEM governor and a population which is only about 12% noggish] by convincing Mizzou’s race-traitor football coach to send the 300lb “leathal weapon” nog football players out on a bolshevik rampage to terrorize the little white ladies. Yeah, Jeff Sessions would be awesome, but Sheriff David Clarke delivers purple Wisconsin. Although I don’t know what the “Knights of Columbus” blue collar papist dudes in Michigan and Ohio would think of the mudsharkery… Still, the USA Black population rallied strongly around Clarence Thomas and his mudshark wife, and against Anita Hill.

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      • The dude on hunger strike is a blacklivesmatter guy from ferguson. enuf said.

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 11:50 am Captain Obvious

        Webb appears to have been a Beta who settled for a gook-ette. That MIGHT appeal to the “Lieutenant Dan” crowd, and it could appeal to USA gooks, who are an increasingly large percentage of the electorate. Here’s a picture of Mrs Webb when she was younger/hotter/tighter:

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 11:55 am Captain Obvious

        It’s POSSIBLE that Webb’s wife is fat enough now that he she could pass as a “Mexican Hill Troll” [credit to whomever chez Le Chateau first used that term to describe El Jeb’s wife], so Mrs Webb MIGHT appeal to “legal” hispanics.

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 11:57 am Captain Obvious

        > “The dude on hunger strike is a blacklivesmatter guy from ferguson. enuf said.” ——— Even without j00gling, I told you that it would be Eskimo Uber-Sanhedrin George Soros who was behind all of this.

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      • Webb looks like he wears a rug. That aside, there is a key point in his gook wife: White men can date down decades much , much easier if they are willing to date other races. Think you’re going to lock down a 20 year old white girl when you’re 38? Dream on, at least in western countries. Unless you’re willing to date a girl who is a little chubby or has some other problem, its really hard. Fame, ridiculous good looks, or wealth in addition to tight game is the hurdle to clear. When white girls hit 27,28 ish they are more open to the large age gaps (a beta parachute) but they come pre-carouseled by then. Still better than boffing depressing divorcees, but there is a lot of misinformation in the “red pill” stuff about this, Roosh has recently come around to the truth.

        If you’re a white man you can probably bang asians and latinas into perpetuity but if you want white babies with a non-slut, you have to start earlier than you think.

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      • Wait, when did Director Tamir Pardo get sent down to the minors???

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 2:04 pm Captain Obvious

        Mrs Jeff Sessions has the full-on dyke crop:

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 2:06 pm Captain Obvious

        Plus Sessions comes from 100%-safe Red electoral votes – not just in his home state, but in all the surrounding states.

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 4:35 pm Sean Fielding

        Webb has 5 children, one or more from each of three consecutive wives. I would bet a lot of money each was younger than her predecessor at the time he first banged her. Sure, settling for an Asian 5 as the most recent is not a great sign, but the underlying drive is unmistakable.

        I conclude that he’s an interesting combination of greater beta, of the strong provider type, and conventional alpha – more than enough of a man’s man to do well in politics and the military. He’s just not much of a lady’s man.

        At a different point in the civilizational arc than we now ‘enjoy’, his type is almost ideal.

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    • She’s not very -ette.

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  5. AA, if the sexes in your life story were reversed and this were a feminist blog, we’d be less focused on how to game the 7 and more focused on how to divorce the slob and live your life.

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  6. So this dude is finally becoming red-pill aware. First priority is to axe the wife. From there it’s simple meet/date to get comfortable in your own skin.
    As far as age basically stick to the SMV ratio.
    My .02 (been there, doing that)

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    • Axing the wife is definitely not an option. No man can recover financially from a divorce rape over the age of 50.

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 10:19 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        Divorce rapes happen because women initiate the divorces and are the ones who get ready for the shitstorm before it happens. For example, getting rid of alimony and the like isn’t hard. Just quit your job and take a low paying crap until you divorce. If you own your house, donate it to your brother or whatever.

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  7. I have heard it said that for a man looking at his future bride; look at her mother. A good indication of how she herself will age.

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    • and a terrifying realization for many already-married men

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    • on November 9, 2015 at 9:25 am Mitch Cumstein

      Not necessarily. I’d say it’s 75% accurate, but I’ve known fat moms who produced girls that have spent their entire lives being pro-active. Probably because they read that same statement.

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    • It’s probably not a bad rule of thumb, but I’ve seen it just as often that the woman resembles her father’s side of the family…

      … as, coincidentally, did my sister, my wife, and even my daughter.

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      • It is an old wives tale perhaps with genetics at the core but more likely meant to encourage young women to stay youthful and keep on shape lol

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  8. […] Does Your Wife Look Like She Could Be Your Daughter Or Your Mother? […]

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  9. I am about ten years older than my wife, who is very HSE and therefore easy to deal with without getting into emotional S&M. (Having an LSE wife would be the worst, I would imagine: she will soon revert to her previous state of unhappiness and then *blame you*.) Unfortunately I look about ten years younger than I am, so no one would mistake me for her father. Life’s a bitch.

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  10. on November 9, 2015 at 7:42 am Laguna Beach Fogey

    Be bold and say something. Anything!

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    • You’re welcome….!

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    • exactly “any response would’ve beaten saying nothing”

      only other part is to be immune if she doesn’t respond well, don’t pedestalize her, maybe she’s the taste of life you need but she’s still just a single mom hitting the end of her shelf life. if she responds poorly move on

      it’s a tough position going from pure beta to a successful cheater but good luck

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    • You know what always works for me at the supermarket?

      I point and ask, in all seriousness, how much for that thing that separates your groceries from the other person’s.

      Always gets a smile from the cashier and the ladies fore and aft.

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  11. I’ve tried explaining to some blue pill guys in the past why it’s bad that their wives got extra fat within a few months of getting married. I tell them that it shows the woman has no respect for them, and that other men judge them based on their wife’s appearance. Their fat wife could actually be holding them back socially and professionaly. 100 % of the time I’m met with hostility.

    Moral of the story: leave them to their beta hell.

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  12. The matronly Barbara Bush was a political liability to GHWB in that she looked older than he did.

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  13. I’m disappointed, I expected this one to be about Donald Trumpenkrieg and Jayeb Bush

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  14. I think of this scene when it’s dumpsville time. Cancel her, get you another one.

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  15. Apple. The fruit that got Eve into trouble. Are you trouble?

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    • I like that.

      Here is how you don’t follow up if she blushes and doesn’t say something right away: “Ehm, by the way [chortle nervously like an 80s teen comedy nerd] … did you know that the Bible doesn’t ACTUALLY call it an apple? Yeah, you didn’t know that. That’s right, it just says ‘fruit.’ It was John Milton who named the apple!” [Cross your arms with superior self-satisfaction]

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      • One way to go.

        Or maybe, “Think I’ll call you “Apple”. Or “Trouble”…she says blah, blah, blah…To call you, I’ll need your number.”…she says blah, blah, blah…Too soon for me to give you my number. Let’s get coffee.

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      • If she says she doesn’t have time right now, you ask the cashier if the woman looks safe to give your number to…cashier says sure…you go “I dunno” and slowly pull out your cell, etc.

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  16. One can’t hold too much against a guy who marries early to a wife a few years younger than himself to start a family, it becomes more about the way that woman takes care of herself. I’m astonished at the lack of care women take to mitigate the things that make them look really old. Namely, they chop their hair short and let it go grey, and don’t watch the extra pounds.

    Among “upper class” white women, it becomes a rite of passage to go natural grey and cut it into a boyish do. I have no idea why, but this is almost a high class signal. What is so high class about looking infertile?

    Are their husbands just too pussy to say anything? A friend’s wife always had long, flowing hair. At their wedding, I said “do me a favor… never cut your hair short.” He nodded in agreement. She said she never would. Now (four years later) she got a cut to cleavage length. It still looks okay. I told her “what butcher did this to you? Don’t go any shorter”. She laughed. I’m not trying to game her or “neg” her, just really trying to provide some social pressure that she probably never gets anywhere so he’s not stuck looking at some dyke cut for the rest of his life.

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  17. Practice, practice, practice. Flirt with every woman you meet until it becomes natural, then work on fine-tuning your skills. It took me a LONG time to get to that point, but now (mid-fifties, divorced) I can easily chat up pretty much any woman I meet, under any circumstances. Also read the archives and contemplate the wisdom of the Sixteen Commandments. Much of what you’ll read works better when you’re young but there is indeed room for us elders. Also, work out. You’ll look better, and you’ll feel better.

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  18. on November 9, 2015 at 9:26 am Mitch Cumstein

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  19. on November 9, 2015 at 9:39 am Farther along A.A.

    I am in my upper 40’s, A.A., but otherwise am in a similar situation. By threatening to leave her, I have put myself in a situation where I am able to have a girlfriend on the side.

    The next problem that comes is, when the girlfriend falls in love with you and wants you to leave your wife. My gf was hot, but has serious personal issues, so I broke it off (twice, as she wormed her way back).

    Had my gf been a better all-around person, I probably would have left my wife for her.

    Anyway, I feel way more happy and confident having taken these steps.

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  20. on November 9, 2015 at 9:41 am gunslingergregi

    trick question ya keep the old one to run the harem cause she will be harder than you will on the younger ones keeping them in line so you dont have to

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  21. My mother in law is 57. She doesn’t look a day over 35,never smoked, partied or drank in her life. My wife is 32. Everyone who doesn’t know them thinks they’re sisters…. My dad always told me, if you want to see how a woman will age, look at her mother. One of the reasons I married her.

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  22. I would have opened the apple scenario with “I’m actually an Apple expert, are you talking about iphones or ipads?”

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    • I once got a produce section giggle out of a girl by saying “don’t get the green apples, they have worms in them”. Stupid, but “just say something”.

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  23. I cashiered at a grocery store for 5 years in high school/college. I never saw a guy successfully pick up a girl in my checkout line, there were only a few attempts (all feeble) the entire time.

    I would of course charm every slit that I cashed out. Young, old, whatever. Compliment the old ones, tease/flirt the young ones. Get them to leave glowing. It is a massive upshot in game learning for a guy to get a job where he has lots and lots of interaction with women. Being a cashier isn’t great past 20, but you can pull off waiter/bartender until your 30s.

    Of course, if you’re a high striver who don’t do jobs americans won’t do then maybe these jobs are beneath you, but they are a rich vein for field experience nonetheless.

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    • shartiste, my experience too. front-line customer service jobs allow you to initiate convos with pretty much anybody you encounter through work and if you’re smiling when you do it, you can say damn near anything that pops into you head and the girl will probably smile. it almost never leads to anything but you get over most approach anxiety. you see someone and just start talking. no need for lines and scripts.

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  24. Open your mouth and say something. Geez! Just engage her. Who the fuck cares how or what you say.

    Sometimes, it’s so simple you need help to misunderstand it.

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  25. On the women’s blog Hooking Up Smart the latest articles relate to how women hate players aka dirty dick. I would have read such in my beta days and said ‘I knew it’ and would have refined my nice guy approach and still got zero. Society is one big game to disqualify the beta and make it easier to find the alphas. Once you see this and plunge forward passed these obstacles life gets rewarding.

    [CH: HUS is a hothouse of pretty lies. pay it no heed.]

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  26. Random Thoughts

    1. God loved Solomon and David. Blessed them with many wives and concubines. What say you?

    2. So many Republicans worship the same God as Bush, Ash Carter, Rubio, Clinton, McCain etc… yet would defecate on the God Putin worships. Twisted.

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    • Solomon paid for his disobedience to God’s commands, and later in life, his wives and concubines turned him towards worship of false gods, as Scripture predicts from nearly the beginning.

      His kingdom was taken away and divided and suffered warfare thereafter.

      As far as the modern politicians, well… I see no true God worship amongst any of them.

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      • “his wives and concubines turned him towards worship of false gods”

        lol, sounds like your typical American not wanting to take personal responsibility for themselves. Blame it on the wives and concubines. God blessed Solomon with them.

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      • He wasn’t blessed by God with many wives and concubines… that was his own free will and lusts… and against the commandments of God for Kings of Israel all the way back to Deuteronomy 17:14 through 17, to wit:

        17 And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold.

        Rather than putting the “blame” off on the women, the man has to answer for his actions… this precedent began right from the start with a pair you may recall: Adam and Eve, wherein Eve was led astray by Satan and took Adam down with her.

        Solomon himself admitted in the end that his surfeit of worldly delights brought him no joy. That’s the message of Ecclesiastes 2:

        10 And whatever my eyes desired I did not keep from them. I kept my heart from no pleasure, for my heart found pleasure in all my toil, and this was my reward for all my toil. 11 Then I considered all that my hands had done and the toil I had expended in doing it, and behold, all was vanity and a striving after wind, and there was nothing to be gained under the sun.

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      • Solomon married a Babylonian woman who turned him back to Baal and Moloch.

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    • “17 And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold.”

      Same principal as David stealing Bathsheba another mans only wife. This was a recommendation against gluttony of these things. Note the word “excessive”. Never was Solomon condemned for having more than one wife or concubine.

      “10 And whatever my eyes desired I did not keep from them. I kept my heart from no pleasure, for my heart found pleasure in all my toil, and this was my reward for all my toil. 11 Then I considered all that my hands had done and the toil I had expended in doing it, and behold, all was vanity and a striving after wind, and there was nothing to be gained under the sun.”

      Solomon never blamed or focused his problems or vanity on having more than one wife or concubine. This verse has more to do with placing his trust/security in the things of the world.

      By the way Grego thanks for not getting personal as it does add to your credibility. With that said your examples are scripture twisting 101.

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      • Geez, man… “placing his trust in the things of the world” is the equivalent of following what “his eyes desired”. He was stating plainly that all his wealth, all his “conquests”, all his “pleasures” in the end, meant nothing.

        In short, he turned from the true God and followed his desires, influenced obviously by his many wives, concubines, distractions, whatever. And in the end, he realized it all amounted to nothing.

        I never said Solomon himself focused his problems on or blamed anything external. He took responsibility for having been influenced by his women and turning towards their gods. I would have thought this was plain.

        You stated his harem was a blessing from God… it was neither that, nor anything that, in the end, brought him true happiness.

        Don’t accuse me of “scripture twisting” again… recognize, rather, your own misreading of this issue.

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      • “The LORD had clearly instructed the people of Israel, ‘You must not marry them, because they will turn your hearts to their gods.’ Yet Solomon insisted on loving them anyway.”

        Speaking specifically of the foreign women which God warned against taking as wives. Solomon loved foreign women which did influence him. To your point Grego.

        Of course this had nothing to do with more than one wife or concubine.

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      • Putin, one last time… you started off this discussion by saying all those wives and concubines were a blessing from God, and intimated that God did not mind it.

        I gave the Scriptural references as to why you were mistaken, and that it all turned out, by Solomon’s own words, and the fate of his kingdom, to be the furthest thing from a blessing.

        God “allows” free will… the actions taken by those with free will are often not sanctioned, approved, or otherwise to be laid at His doorstep… otherwise it wouldn’t be free will.

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      • “I gave the Scriptural references as to why you were mistaken”

        And I answered your scriptural references. Stop the scripture twisting my fetish factory friend.

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      • “2 Samuel 12:7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; 8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom,”

        Yes God gives blessings. Here is a “verse”. With that said he warned of gluttony. Did Solomon take foreign wives when God warned against it? Sure looks like it.

        Problem is you seem to act like you KNOW that God did not bless him with ANY of his wives or concubines whether foreign or not. Like the mouth of Sauron you seem to think you know everything!

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    • Approach approach approach

      Women LOVE being approached. They live for male/Daddy attention. Even if she rejects you it is most likely she is not feeling confident herself today or just not feeling it. It is about her not you if she rejects. Women love cock. Always remember that.

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    • insanity…we created ISIS. The DoD admitted it as if everyone already knew, because everyone already does.

      The Russians came in to prop up Assad so as to not create another warlord feudal terrorist wasteland like we liberated Libya into.

      The US creates destruction, chaos, and death everywhere it treads now. Are we really stupid enough to put troops in there to try to still overthrow Assad?

      This government we have is criminally insane. If I were Jordan or Iran, I would be desperate to get The Bomb.

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  27. Bill Clinton wins beta of the decade. Anyone who would stay married to that beast and then relentlessly cheer lead for her and lift her up on a pedestal has very low self esteem. He must of been raised by a man hating whore and had very little male modeling.

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  28. on November 9, 2015 at 10:00 am Mitch Cumstein

    Don’t say anything. Just size her up like the King of Cool. Alpha as fuuuu.

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  29. on November 9, 2015 at 10:13 am Shortest Straw

    What’s the universal opener?

    “Hi.”

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  30. on November 9, 2015 at 10:29 am Gotta Have Something Clever

    Early 50s, divorced, financially crushed in the process. She owes two years of unpaid child support (over $26,000) because the children made clear they were not living with her; she has a vagina, hence she will never be made to pay.

    But on the whole, life is great. My daughter is stunning and that alone gets plenty of interest. I grew a little beard, and it’s fascinating what a difference that has made in getting women to look into my eyes, and yeah, I got big brown ones that are made for swooning. Women love my voice, and when we get to touching, I do well at that.

    Or did. Nearly two decades out of action with She Who Must Not Be Named. By the market value test, I’m pretty low value. I get it, no problem. My question is, as I’ve started flirting voraciously again, and may even move on to actual action (it’s hard as single Dad), what is the advice regarding hitting on 4, 5, 6 range women? I’ve done well flirting with higher, I’m happy in my frame, but I’ve yet to start closing the deal. Thoughts?

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    • on November 9, 2015 at 8:07 pm The Other Anonymous

      Focus on fundamentals – Dress stylishly and congruent with your age, hold eye contact longer, use vocal tonality and actively seek out target-rich social settings. Be worldly.

      Your immediate short-term goal should be to carry a half-hour conversation without any inference to your family. Proud as you may be, established guys are too quick to give away the details of their lives. They gush – its repelant – and women toss them right back on to the pile of discarded husbands.

      When tested – teasingly qualify the shit out of any woman that asks about your family. Make them earn every detail. The subtext is that you’re protective. You have demonstrated survival and replication – You’ve collected scars – but it comes with the territory.

      [CH: what you’ve said here is true even for men without families. the hallmark of the beta male is an eagerness to promptly divulge lots of personal details about his life in hopes one of them will hook a girl’s romantic curiosity. it never works.]

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      • on November 10, 2015 at 6:41 am Gotta Have Something Clever

        I don’t know about stylish, but I never go out in public without a collared shirt and polished shoes, can’t stand my hair scruffy. Retired military, but without the ramrod up my ass. I was a horrible gusher, but that’s been fixed–I like my privacy and any future chick is going to have to earn her way into it. If opportune, I might mention I’m divorced and single Dad, but only if it will work as a qualifier. I know that a lot of women will hear that as me looking for a new wife and mom, oh, Hell no!

        (A funny–shopping with my daughter, the checkout clerk I know well, she’s gabbing with some store flunky and not checking us out, so I tell her, “Wilma, if you don’t do your job, I’m going to spank you.” She goes bright red, giggling, and my daughter blurts out, “DAD!”)

        The eye contact, though–maybe it’s my increasing self-confidence, maybe it’s the beard, but jeez, I’ve locked eyes with some women at a coffee shop I visit once a week. In both cases they walked by me way closer than they needed to going back to the counter, but it sure felt like they wanted me to make a move. One was in her 20s, easily a 7, the other–not a 7, but maybe 19 and likely younger (I was afraid I was creeping her at first, but she locked eyes with me twice and then passed by me close).

        Thing was, the shop is an hour from home. I’m just not going to date anyone that far away, and I’m only there for a short time. Great to practice flirting and talking, I guess.

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  31. on November 9, 2015 at 10:29 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

    I have an abstract question. Do you think its better to have no experiences with women or have negative experiences prior to learning game? I didn’t have much in terms of experience when I started to read about picking up girls because I rarely found any of them interesting enough to be worth the effort I thought they take to get in bed with no strings attached and I used to have quite a few romantic delusions. So, alas, I largely ignored them until I finished high-school despite getting IOIs from some(too silly back then to interpret that properly). I’m thinking if I would have had bad experiences over and over again because I would have fumbled it would have made it harder to change past habits rather than just learn new ones.

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  32. The Faggot Within’s manic pixie dream girl, ahem, “womyn”, that he masturbates to in his parent’s basement….looks exactly like his mom.

    But with more crows feet. Because experience=sexy.

    Freudian rape!

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  33. Just curious. If you are in a duty-bound, sexless marriage and looking to “snag a bit of life before it’s done”, as he says, is it better to wear the ring or ditch the ring?

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  34. What’s the old adage, CH?
    Bust a move
    Say something – anything beats nothing.
    And it gets easier the more you do it.

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  35. Slick Willy wins Beta of the decade for placating his beast of a wife. His constant cheer leading and pedestalizing of her is revolting and signals some kind of self hate. Did he not have a male role model?

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  36. Obvious answer is obvious.

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  37. 90% of success is showing up. The other 20% has something to do with math.

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  38. I don’t think his game is weak if he stays with his wife who is overweight and has had three or four of his kids. The lady is probably in her fifties (since he is in his fifties) and is probably a grandmother. There comes a point when you need to except your wife especially if she is a grandmother. Can you imagine your grandma trying to look like a sexy babe? Stop sexualizing grandma and allow her to enjoy her old age and spend time with the grandkids.

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    • Can you imagine your grandma trying to look like a sexy babe?

      No, but I can imagine someone else’s grandma trying to look like a sexy babe: the Hungarian cougar who used to work at the office of the apartment complex where I live and who wanted to play hide-the-salami with me. I didn’t hit it but maybe I should have. Unlike most fortysomething American women, she was HWP and not terribly unattractive for a woman her age. Just another good reason to marry EE chicks. They believe in diet and exercise and age much better than Ameriskanks.

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  39. My wife is fit (5’4″ and about 105 lbs) but if anyone mistakes her as my daughter it will be because I aged poorly. That said, I can’t imagine being married to a woman that people mistake for your mother.

    Somewhat OT:

    It was fitting that, literally, as I sat at the kitchen table sipping my morning coffee and catching up on the last few CH posts/comments, my wife tiptoed into the room to tell me that she’s pregnant – with our fourth child.

    No matter where a man is in his life, the end result of “game,” or whatever else one calls the principles espoused by the keen-sighted and shiv-wielding folks at CH, is more and better sex. In all sincerity, I humbly recognize that my lucky #4 probably wouldn’t be on the way had CH, and the commenters on this blog, not helped me see some things differently.

    I’m still smiling from the news, so permit me this moment of sentimentality.

    Ah, what the hell: MOAR WHYTE BABIES

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  40. Makin fun of a girl for running girly is great.

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  41. So here I am, mid 40’s, beta since the 80s, chained to a SMV 5 shrew. Will probably take care of here to the end. Discovered ‘game’ within this last year and have been soaking up as much as possible, mostly here at CH, Dalrock and the Rational Male – damn these places are rich!

    I took the words to heart, lost 50 pounds, started lifting, and focused on my interactions with women. I’m not much to look at, and balding to boot. On the plus side, I’m 6′ tall, look pretty young, and very funny and witty when in the mood.

    Am now banging an early 30s 7+, mostly the result of text and humor game.

    Focus on your strengths, act as if you’re the shit even if you’re faking it, initiate, and the rest falls into place.

    [CH: biblical injunctions.]

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  42. There was a movie a couple of years back with Jack Nicholson, the film was only so so. But they capture the feeling of AA and many in his cohort about what their wives have turned into. It is partiallyin the beginning of this trailer.

    One of the funnier parts of the movie. And oh so real to many men’s lives.

    Wont be long before my wife is there.

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  43. on November 9, 2015 at 12:17 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    So, right before she leaves the country on a business trip, my gf suddenly says to me: “If you’re going to fuck her, do it in a hotel, please.”

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  44. LBF – well done, she has accepted it and doesn’t have a problem.

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  45. I’ve sort of got a question along the same lines.

    Quick background. Now in my late 30’s. Married once in my early 20’s for a few years. Ended just how you would have expected it. No kids. She cheated on me. Surprisingly, back in those beta days, I had the guts to dump her. Found game in my late 20’s and have been doing pretty well since then. I wouldn’t say knocking it out of the park but definitely lesser alpha type.

    Met a girl about four years ago and got into an LTR with her. She is a 6.5-7. Good family. We get along well and rarely ever fight. She recently came to me and said that she had always wanted to get married and have kids. If I wasn’t game she wanted to know she could get on with her life. It wasn’t in a bitchy “give me a ring now” tone but a truly sad request. I think she would genuinely hate to lose me but would deal with it to have kids. I told her I needed six months to think about it. Truth is, I really did. it was a lot of thinking.

    Six months are coming up now and I think I am inclined to get married. Now I know all the usual warnings about marriage in the modern age, so please do rehash those. I wouldn’t mind having a kid or two and truth be told if I let her move on it will be at least my early 40’s when I will be in such a position again.

    Anyone out there in the vast expanses of the internet have a similar experience? Any useful advice (again I a fully aware of the potential horrors of marriage no need to rehash them)?

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    • Yeah. I married her and it was the best decision I’ve made. This one sounds like a keeper. Marriage to the right woman is great.

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    • Hide your assets, decide on a contingency escape destination, and pop the question. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

      Why not? You love her. She loves you. You ought to have kids. Do it.

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  46. on November 9, 2015 at 2:24 pm The Spirit Within

    What if your mother looks like your wife?

    http://images.intouchweekly.com/uploads/images/file/9864/sofia-vergara-son-manolo.jpg?fit=crop&h=510&w=680

    [CH: oedipus wept… from his snake eye.]

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  47. on November 9, 2015 at 2:26 pm Lost in Moderation

    It seems my earlier post got lost in moderation, regrets if this is a dupe.

    I’m early 50s, retired military, recently divorced–and I’m the single Dad. Financially, it’s been a ball-buster, but I’ve survived. Meanwhile, she steals 50% of my military retirement and is two years behind ($26,000) on child support. Trav777 is right that men can survive and beat the divorce industrial complex, but it’s not easy, particularly for anyone thinking in any way “fair” and “moral.”

    I’ve begun flirting again, very surprised at how much better I do with younguns (20s) than cows near my own age (I think it’s my inability to hide my disgust). I’m in decent shape, tall, big brown eyes that swooners can swoon in, have a mellifluous voice as well, and have begun sporting a beard, despite thorough baldness on top. What a difference that made, instant eye contact with women over and over again. Oh, I gotta big D, too, not that it’s apparent at first.

    Other than that, I’m pretty low value. No big income, no desire to have one. I’m not terribly social, don’t care to be. Our trash movies, TV, radio? Screw that–BBC 3 and my library keep me entertained. I got tired of apologizing for solitary pursuits to the ex–I am who I am, I’m comfortable in that frame. I manage to scoop up extra attention because my teenage daughter is stunning (don’t know how, between her cow of a mother and myself).

    But now it’s time to start closing the deal, even with all the constrictions of single Dad-dom. Simple question: should I be content to start tapping the readily available (and younger) 4-6s that are readily available, or up my game and shoot for 7-9s? I understand constantly shooting for higher, just to build the technique, but damn, they seem to take so much more work, at least from my perspective as someone getting back into it. Ideas?

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  48. For what it is worth

    Mine looks like she could be my younger sister

    I don’t have a wife, I have a girlfriend, been with her about 5 months.

    Her face looks about 10 years younger than her age, and her body looks about 20 years younger than her age.

    A lot of women after 40 look good with clothes on, but once the clothes are off, you want to run away screaming.

    At my age you have to kiss a lot of frogette before you find a woman with a princess body.

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  49. on November 9, 2015 at 4:43 pm Sean Fielding

    AA – any advice that begins with ‘leave your wife’ is definitely coming from a complete amateur with no game, or from a guy who is too young to have any insight into your life.

    Believe me, it is entirely possibly to have your sex life enhanced on the side without going through divorce rape. Obviously millions of married men have been doing it for hundreds of years, and not always via brothels.

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  50. I’m 48, pushing 49. My gf is a hot 26. You have but one life. Don’t settle for something you don’t want.

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  51. on November 9, 2015 at 6:14 pm Aspiring Asshole

    Takin’ it all in boys, I plan to put it to use.

    I think CH nailed about getting too tied up in coming up with something witty. I’ve noticed that when I’m really tired I’ll run my mouth and say things I wouldn’t normally say, and been surprised by the reactions.

    I have had a wake up call and making efforts. In the last year of lifting I’ve gained 20lbs and lost 2″ of waistline, should be more progress but I got too enthused and tore some stuff in my arm which put me out for a few months.

    Lots of ground to be gained in the game dept. I like the idea of bantering with whatever just for the practice. My plan is to step out of comfort zone at least once a day if public interaction is available.

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    • I have had a wake up call and making efforts. In the last year of lifting I’ve gained 20lbs and lost 2″ of waistline, should be more progress but I got too enthused and tore some stuff in my arm which put me out for a few months.

      This is why I do both running and upper-body strength training, alternating from day to day. If I tear something in my upper body doing strength training I can at least still run and if I tear something in my lower body during my runs, I can at least still do my strength training. (Not being able to work out at all would drive me completely nuts as I have serious mental health issues and my workouts are a major emotional steam valve for me.)

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    • on November 9, 2015 at 7:15 pm Vagina dominator

      Did you tear it doing free weights? If so, when you come back to training, consider introducing the use of a chest expander (the things with rubber cables or steel springs) or even add, as I do, use motorcycle inner tubes.

      My focus in using these is to thicken and train the fascia (white skin, tendons, ligaments, etc) that covers and joins muscles. This helps prevent serious injuries. Consider that muscle strains can repair in a few weeks but if you strain or tear fascia (like the bicep tendon) you won’t be picking up the groceries for months.

      Re: how to use motor cycle inner tubes:

      I drape one – sizes are various – around my upper body and arms/elbows and use them for various resistance exercises, such as a standing front press but in particular I use them to develop the power and arm shapes needed for fighting training.

      In particular, you can use inner tubes to develop the out-and-forward elbow movement that originates in the traps and is so common in boxing, as seen in, for example, a shoulder roll, Philly shell, the overhand right and its defensive equivalent, and so on.

      I have never seen any other exercise that allowed this to be trained. But be careful, use the traps and lats to roll the elbow, not the delts.

      Cheers.

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      • I’m in my late 50’s, happily married, and am not looking for an upgrade.
        But I am afflicted {LUCKY ME } with two lower discs w/ degenerative joint disease and a hellacious bone spur in my lower neck/ upper spine. MRI.s taken, no docs dispute it, and insurance won’t pay for surgery. Fuck you , United health Care. Any hoo, got any recommendations for what I can do ? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanx in advance,

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      • on November 10, 2015 at 6:16 pm Aspiring Asshole

        “Did you tear it doing free weights?” Yes, Barbell Rows
        Thanks for the tip regarding resistance bands/inner tubes. Do you know of/recommend any supplements for ligaments/fascia?

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    • I’m in my late 50’s. It’s important for ya to keep that testesteroni level up, too.
      Take care of yourself, And eat some oysters, you’ll love longer.

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      • Sorry I had to piggyback my post. Don’t overdo the lifts and stuff, you’re in your 50’s , for Pete’s sake. Buy a Harley, or a Mustang {used , not new. they are fairly cheap here where Iive here in the deep South . PAY CAS
        H } May you be one snatch-happy fucker in no time flat. best to ya.

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      • Buy a Harley, or a Mustang

        I just hit the big four-oh myself and am saving up for a vehicle. It’ll probably be a ‘Stang or a Harley Sportster but maybe a Dyna.

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      • on November 9, 2015 at 11:36 pm gunslingergregi

        yea hit 40 too jesus we gettin old
        kind of wierd gettin a baby for my birthday he he he

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  52. “Wit is great to call upon in a pinch, but if you aren’t naturally witty the next best thing is saying whatever shit comes to mind.”

    Damn straight. I’m a funny guy (and people tell me this, I’m not just imagining it like so many do). On rare occasions, I still say some random stuff the wrong way and it makes absolutely no sense at all. Chicks still laugh. I kid you not. I am convinced that they generally are not smart enough to get humor – maybe that is why they cannot tell a joke. Or maybe they are used to not always getting jokes. Or maybe my `tude carries me. I dunno. But it still works.

    Practice saying something. And just think to yourself “Hey, I’m not trying to bang this chick in her car in the parking lot with her toddler in the front seat and customers walking by in broad daylight. I am merely practicing talking to a cute chick.” Then have fun with it. All this stuff *should be fun*. Flirting is great fun! A lot less pressure to think of it as practice instead of getting all hung up expecting to be perfect. You can even say something stupid then say “Wow. That sounded way better in my head before I said it.” Don’t be so god damn serious, have some fun.

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  53. On the step past AA, what do you do then? I have no problem starting conversations with women. I find it easy to talk about nothing and get smiles and laughs. What I don’t how to do is to turn these chatty conversations personal, leading to a number/date. I chatted up a cute woman in line at the grocery store the other day. She was behind me. After I paid my bill, I didn’t know what to do to continue to a number/date. Pretty sure she was interested, but didn’t know what to do. Asking outright in a checkout line seems to forward; could I have pulled “Well, I’ve got to get going, but I’d love to talking with you. Is there a way to continue our conversation later?” Hanging out till she was done checking out to walk out with her seemed a little creepy.

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    • on November 10, 2015 at 8:51 am winter migration

      its all very well chatting but are you generating attraction ? if so it should feel pretty normal to ask for number etc..Try it, if they’re standing there laughing smiling etc its on …just ask like its no big deal…which it aint..

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  54. “[CH: with two in the pink and one in the stink.]”
    A to the men. Bless you. brother.

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  55. Some Guy
    Buy a Harley, or a Mustang

    “I just hit the big four-oh myself and am saving up for a vehicle. It’ll probably be a ‘Stang or a Harley Sportster but maybe a Dyna.”
    I’ m a certified Harley mechanic. Sportster’s are OK, But if you really want a Dyna, that’s my ride of choice. If you are buying used , go for FXDX. You won’t regret it. I’ve had mine for 15 years. And I still love it as as the day I bought it new.

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  56. On the step past AA, what do you do then? I have no problem starting conversations with women. I find it easy to talk about nothing and get smiles and laughs. What I don’t how to do is to turn these chatty conversations personal, leading to a number/date. I chatted up a cute woman in line at the grocery store the other day. She was behind me. After I paid my bill, I didn’t know what to do to continue to a number/date. Pretty sure she was interested, but didn’t know what to do. Asking outright in a checkout line seems to forward; could I have pulled “Well, I’ve got to get going, but I’d love to talking with you. Is there a way to continue our conversation later?” Hanging out till she was done checking out to walk out with her seemed a little creepy.

    Don’t freeze up. follow up.

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    • You still need what Krauser calls the hook point chatting in line is good but not quite enough to get her number yet. Just take your time walking out stop and rebag your stuff, or walk a cart back to the store any excuse to come back to her.

      Then using strong body language and strong eye contact. Reopen her. At this point don’t hide your dick. This is where most guys make it a friendly conversation and do not to move the interaction forward. So tell her something like you look very interesting or I like your shoes or outfit, make an observation but don’t kiss her ass or gush compliments. Like Ripp says it’s the attitude so talk slowly very little smiling maybe a smirk, unless someone says something funny.

      Once you are doing all of this she is going to start talking, that is her investment that hooks her. Now she is doing most of the work. Then lead her. Women instinctively want to be led. Simple ask her to step over here, or let’s sit down on the bench over there. Don’t ask just do it.

      Rembert not to ask too many questions that makes it an interview. Talk about something she is doing wearing or saying tease her a little, but just a little. Exaggerate something, call out something funny. Keep the eye contact, even maybe a little incidental touch when you slightly brush up against her. Physical escalation is the most powerful but you have to be careful about too much touch in the daytime.

      Now you get the number don’t ask tell. Say you seem really cool I am going to call you put your number in my phone, leading,attitude, telling, not hiding your dick.

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  57. “The important thing is not the words, but the attitude with which you speak them.”

    If there has to be one takeaway from this post, this is it.

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  58. at a company party, one of my coworkers introduced his wife to another coworker who had not met her. Her:butch lezbo cut, plain faced jane.
    an introduction began, “oh M, is this your son?” “no, this is my wife”

    brutal, I about shit myself…for days.

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  59. on November 10, 2015 at 8:29 am elmer t. jones

    …what some are now referring to as a “Brown Swastika”…

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  60. on November 10, 2015 at 8:45 am winter migration

    It helps to be in the habit of talking shit and socially warmed up generally, so the chance encounter with the pretty girl isn’t such a leap into the abyss.
    You won’t get tongue-tied if you’ve already had some good exchanges through the day, sounds basic but…

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  61. Reblogged this on XWorkx.

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  62. There are some downsides. My intended is 31 and Korean; I’m 64 and white American. I’m older than her dad. We get along great but she can catch a lot of flak in Korea for being with such an older white guy. I respect that so let her color my hair – but only if we’re both naked – and get facials. My self-image is more Marlboro man than metrosexual but I do it for the girl.

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  63. funny.. my dad always used to get ” you have a very nice grand child”. He would look at the person dead in the eye, that’s my son. My mom is 10 years his junior.

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