Study: Women With High Self-Esteem Have More Rape Fantasies

Continuing on the theme of “WOMEN…THEY REALLY ARE NOTHING LIKE MEN”, another study (h/t Arbiter) finds that not only are rape fantasies common among the female of the species, but, contrary to conventional tradcon wisdom, it’s the HIGH SELF-ESTEEM women who have the most frequent and pleasurable rape fantasies.

This study evaluated explanations of rape fantasy in a sample of female undergraduates (N = 355) using a sexual fantasy checklist which included eight types of rape fantasy, participants’ detailed descriptions of a rape fantasy they have had, a rape fantasy scenario audio presentation, and measures of personality. Three explanations of rape fantasy were tested: openness to sexual experience, sexual desirability, and sexual blame avoidance. Women who were higher in erotophilia and self-esteem and who had more frequent consensual sexual fantasies and more frequent desirability fantasies, particularly of performing as a stripper, had more frequent rape fantasies. Women who were higher in erotophilia, openness to fantasy, desirability fantasies, and self-esteem reported greater sexual arousal to rape fantasies. Sexual blame avoidance theory was not supported; sexual desirability theory was moderately supported; openness to sexual experience theory received the strongest support.

It appears women have rape fantasies because… wait for it… it TURNS THEM ON. Which makes sense. Fantasy is based on real desire. (For proof of this, ask yourself when was the last time a woman admitted she fantasized about sex with a dutiful beta provider.)

Rape fantasies aren’t reactions to negative real life experiences or evidence of imbalanced psychologies; quite the opposite, rape fantasies are the domain of women who think highly of themselves and are comfortable with their sexuality.

Arbiter interjects,

Yet another finding that contradicts the feminist worldview. The women who like sex the most and are the most daring, are the ones who fantasize about rape the most. These are the toughest women, the most independent women.

Feminists claim that “rape is about control”. It is “a way for men to control women”. In that case it should be the women who feminists consider traitors who have the most rape fantasies, shouldn’t it? The women who are the most “submissive”, women who are obedient slaves to the evil men, shy and afraid, quiet as a mouse, “seen but not heard” and all the things feminists imagine about conservative women since they don’t know any. Instead it’s the toughest women who enjoy rape fantasies the most, since rape is about sex, not the “patriarchy’s” control.

What’s equally interesting is why women who are lower in sociosexuality and in self-esteem have fewer reported rape fantasies. Maybe they are less honest about their true desires, thinking them shameful? Or maybe they simply have lower libidos than more erotically feminine women, and this is reflected in their lower incidences of the sorts of sexual/romantic fantasies that preoccupy the female hindbrain.





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  1. on November 11, 2015 at 8:10 am Captain Obvious

    The crazy Melissa Click bey0tch [Eskimo? Eskimo Marionette? Whatevah…], at Missouri-Columbia, was caught on the videotape screaming for “MUSCLE!”, and her bio at the “Communications” Depot is all about 50 Shades and Masculinity:

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    • on November 11, 2015 at 8:11 am Captain Obvious

      Dr. Melissa A. Click earned her Ph.D. from the Department of Communication at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst… Current research projects involve 50 SHADES OF GREY readers, the impact of social media in fans’ relationship with LADY GAGA, MASCULINITY and male fans, messages about class and food in reality television programming, and messages about work in CHILDREN’S TELEVISION programs… https://communication.missouri.edu/faculty/click

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      • on November 11, 2015 at 8:15 am Captain Obvious

        I have to wonder if a Playah were to walk up to that poor crazy slut h0 sp!nster nutjob, and say in his deepest voice, with a subtle sh!t-eating grin on his face, “Honey, you want muscle? I’ll show you some muscles. Whatcha doing after the rally? You like chardonnay? C’mon, less me & you get outta here, baby…” – I just have to wonder if she would completely melt in the glow of his awesomeness.

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      • on November 11, 2015 at 8:19 am Captain Obvious

        “You a naughty naughty little girl, ain’t cha? Yeah, don’t lie to me little girl. Big Daddy gonna spank a naughtly little girl like you. Gonna spank her hard…”

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      • you’d be mad too if you were stuck with that grill.

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      • “You a naughty naughty little girl, ain’t cha? Yeah, don’t lie to me little girl. Big Daddy gonna spank a naughtly little girl like you. Gonna spank her hard…”

        Why can’t we see this side of you more often Cap? :-p

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      • Captain Kirk, don’t forget to massage her clit!

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      • on November 11, 2015 at 8:58 am gunslingergregi

        Captain Kirk, don’t forget to massage her clit!”””””””””’

        yea that shit works from the side for splashing water park action

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      • I love your way with words, gregi!

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      • on November 11, 2015 at 9:19 am Laguna Beach Fogey

        Splash her glasses, Cap’n.

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      • This entire industry within universities, it blows my mind. What exactly does Ms. Click contribute to society? How the hell can studying 50 Shades of Grey be justified within a university?

        Can’t she just go make some sammiches somewhere?

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      • on November 11, 2015 at 9:39 am Captain Obvious

        Crunch – walk down the hall there, and knock on Director Tamir Pardo’s door, and ask him whether “Click” is an Eskimo name. “Glick” certainly would be Eskimo. But I’ve never heard of anyone named “Click”.

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      • Sorry, Captain Queeg. My weekly ‘Jewish World Domination Master Plan’ status meeting with the Illuminati is not until tomorrow.

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      • on November 11, 2015 at 10:10 am Captain Obvious

        And when you’re at the Jewish World Domination Master Plan meeting, ask the Sanhedrin how much Sephardic Eskimo Chattel-Slave-Trader blood that Marco Rubio & his wife have in them. I’m guessing 50% or more each.

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      • “Why can’t we see this side of you more often Cap? :P”

        Now I’m convinced that this chick uses this website as lubricant. LOL.

        Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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      • Don’t we all.

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      • Ho, I comment equally with bits of political stuff but you skip right by those, wise ass.

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      • on November 11, 2015 at 10:57 am gunslingergregi

        yea just had that experience with my chick after i drove up to her the bed became a water bed
        so still vivid
        he he he

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      • My weekly ‘Jewish World Domination Master Plan’ status meeting with the Illuminati is not until tomorrow.

        What’s today… dry clean the curtains in front of all those men to whom we’re to pay no mind?

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      • “Ho, I comment equally with bits of political stuff but you skip right by those, wise ass.”

        Nonsense. Those two are not mutually exclusive. 🙂

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    • Click? Her last name is Click? And sweet mercy, is that a look of sexual oppression or what!? And those fucking glasses….damn you all to hell!

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      • Are we sure that’s not Carrot Top? Haven’t heard of him in awhile… maybe he’s trying for another 15 minutes in the limelight by going the Caitlin route?

        Bonus was, it apparently didn’t take much modification.

        /jes’ spitballin’ here

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      • This bitch just needs a good rape fantasy come to life. Too bad she hit the wall at terminal velocity, so that will never happen.

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      • self imposed yellow star Eskimo glasses

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    • this article is really another brick in the “water is wet” wall.

      Everyone should understand by now that women are in the direct sense of the phrase, full of shit. None more so than feminists.

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    • Lol are you obsessed with jews loool

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    • can we set up a separate blog where we can post all of these precious sightings of Class Struggle Face?

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  2. It took me a LONG time to learn this but while in the throes of passion making a move that restrains the girl, even just a little bit – for example, pinning her hands above her head or behind her back – heats things up quite a bit.

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    • Pinning a girl’s hands with just one of yours while the other roams the rest of her body is one of the most dominant things you can do to her while fucking her. And she loves every second of it.

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      • huh? “most”? Lol, as opposed to smacking her in the face (I’d say around 50/50 like that or more) spitting on her, choking her? Do her doggy with her head down and put your foot on the back of her head, call her a fuckin bitch and say “who pussy dis is?”

        I think this word “most” does not mean what you think it means

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    • Try spitting in their face. Seriously. Just do it sometime and watch the effect. Most girls like it.

      I never would have believed it either.

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      • In her face? Pff. Try spitting in her mouth. After a narrowly avoided breakup.

        I didn’t even know you could get wet this hard, this fast. Staggering…

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      • When you bring home pouch of Red Man, does her cooze ooze like Pavloc’s dog?

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      • Holy sh** Trav… Seriously?

        I was pushing the envelope (at least for myself) last week with a little hottie who initially told me “no” when I moved in for the kiss. I wasn’t dissuaded and it was amazing how quickly her “no’s” dissolved to “yes’s”. Totally passionate, totally on fire. Pulled her hair, slapped her ass, pinned her arms above her head.

        Have to admit that my internal dialogue was worried that she would not react well. But I had rock solid frame externally and it could not have gone better. She was seriously turned on.

        I’ll have to remember the spitting in the face, but man, that sounds like a graduate level move.

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      • Hell, Pavlov… fuck that QUERTY guy.

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      • “When you bring home pouch of Red Man, does her cooze ooze like Pavloc’s dog?”

        LOL.

        I feel like making a Jesse Ventura joke for some reason.

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      • Don’t know if I got a Venture joke, but I certainly have an homage:

        “Get that shit out of my face.”

        “Bunch of slack-jawed faggots! This stuff will make you a sexual Tyrannosaurus… just like me.”

        “Yeah, well stick that stuff up your sore ass.”

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      • That’s the one I was thinking of, m8. 🙂

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      • That shit makes you a goddamn sexual tyranasourus

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      • Classic Ventura: I ain’t got time to bleed.

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      • That movie is a seriously underrated classic. One of the best Action flicks ever, IMO.

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      • before or after you rub her clit because thats what the Jews like.

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    • How about chaining her to your bed and fucking her senseless for a couple of hours?

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    • Here’s a move “empowered” women love: In the missionary position, you can slip your hand under the back of her head, grab her hair at the scalp and use your forearms to pin her arms down while you bite her neck. Girls with power in their daily lives need to feel dominated every once in a while.

      [CH: “you make me feel like a nah-tur-al woooooman…..”]

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  3. So butter her up first, build up that esteem and then, when she’s not looking…BOOM…all over the room!

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  4. […] Study: Women With High Self-Esteem Have More Rape Fantasies […]

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  5. The ordinarily powerful have a fetish for being powerless. There’s always some politician or businessman getting whipped by a nazi or boffed by a tranny.

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    • Non-western girls desire lovemaking and sensitivity more than our own girls do and it’s because that’s what they don’t get normally. Game works better on girls from good homes than girls from poorer homes for the same reason.

      When you’re surrounded by yes men like a CEO, politician, or middle class woman is then what you crave is a bad bastard who won’t take no for an answer.

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      • Non-western girls desire lovemaking and sensitivity more than our own girls do and it’s because that’s what they don’t get normally.

        This is very true. At the university I noticed that female foreign students were much more satisfied with just being together, and they never wanted to be with a guy from their own people again. They all had stories of what a cold society they came from. Sleeping with non-Western women and hearing what they had to tell made me even more convinced that we shouldn’t let in non-Westerners.

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      • on November 11, 2015 at 11:00 am The Man Who Was . . .

        Yet another finding that contradicts the feminist worldview. The women who like sex the most and are the most daring, are the ones who fantasize about rape the most. These are the toughest women, the most independent women.

        Whatever you say about Ayn Rand, she wasn’t a lacking in toughness and independance.

        Have you read those novels?

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      • Whatever you say about Ayn Rand, she wasn’t a lacking in toughness and independance.

        Have you read those novels?

        I have just read about them. Apparently some violent sex scenes in at least one of them. Coupled with toughness and independence, yes, I see what you mean.

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      • I don’t understand the criticism of Rand on here she was mastering the issues we talk about here before many of the guys on here were shitting yellow.

        She was an original anti feminist and believer in the primacy of man over women. She fought the entire liberal establishment long before she had any support from anyone.

        She understood what man is and what woman is. You need to read one of her books you will never think about these issues the same.

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  6. Do homosexuals have rape fantasies?

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    • Certainly! Especially when they are white – really gets me hard as a rock!

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      • Should have been clearer, sorry (this happens when you are genetically inferior…) I meant that I get hard fantasizing about a white rap*st…

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      • Thwack (“Jame Blonde” after his last name got banned as punishment) really is tedious, isn’t he? Trolling, trolling, trolling. He can’t even make it funny. There’s something in his Black mind that prevents him from being funny.

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      • “Jame Blonde”

        Ok, now I’m thinking of a Buffalo Bill reference.

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      • You fuckin’ moon crickets never cease to amaze. Damn, , nigra do you dumbfucks ever get get tire of showin’ the the rest of of us your dimwhit shite ? Do ya ?

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    • I believe this is the impostor t-h-w-a-c-k, guys.

      Don’t make a n1gger blacker than he already is. lzlzozlzozlzolzozlozlozlozl

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    • I wasn’t talking about wiling black bitch prison rape.

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  7. on November 11, 2015 at 9:00 am gunslingergregi

    yea is the fantasy they are talking about when they in the kitchen doing dishes or makeup in front of mirror or cooking whatever and ya go over and bend em over and fuck em
    think that definetly the tyep of domination they like but not really rape he he he

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    • again they want to be raped by Tom Brady.

      Not by a groid in an alley. That sort of thing is traumatic.

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    • think that definetly the tyep of domination they like but not really rape

      It’s true. Like men will fantasize about raping, but wouldn’t actually do it even if they knew they’d get away with it. But domination, that’s fine.

      I think women like to be dominated because it is a sign that the man is stronger, and that he can therefore protect and provide. And the man likes to dominate because it’s a victory, men having a strong instinct for overcoming obstacles.

      Remember when The Sims became the most sold computer game in 2000, because it was the one game that all the girls bought. No leveling up, just building a home together with a (well-employed) husband. While men like games where you overcome obstacles, defeat, conquer. As it should be.

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  8. There is fantasy rape and there is reality rape. Reality rape, assuming she doesn’t think he’s gonna kill her and its not painful, feels to the woman like having to patiently wait for a very stupid-faced male to finish taking a shit.

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  9. Maybe poorer, more down-trodden women don’t have rape fantasies because they live in a rougher, more violence-ridden milieu where rape is a grim & brutal reality. For instance, I doubt any gals are reading “Fifty Shades” in the Congo.

    Western

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    • Western women today have got it so safe & good that they literally have to make up rapes. Either as erotic fantasies while they diddle themselves or as an amorphous “rape culture” permeating our society.

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    • on November 11, 2015 at 9:33 am Captain Obvious

      HEARTISTE: “… women who are lower in sociosexuality and in self-esteem have fewer reported rape fantasies…” ——— I wanna hit this from an entirely different angle. Suppose all you’re doing is essentially just filtering for IQ, which in turn implies skull size, implying brain size, implying total number of nerves and nerve endings throughout the body etc. Now remember the old Southern racist adage – “N!ggers don’t feel pain like White folk”? Could it be that the lower classes just don’t have the gray matter for experiencing excruciating pain? And could it be true at the opposite extreme – the lower classes also don’t experience PLEASURE as intensely as do the upper classes [with their larger brains & more nerves & nerve endings]?

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    • It’s definitely more of a first world/middle class/American thing. Wanting to be a little bitch is an underside of privilege – just look at hipsters. The whole political philosophy of the Western elite basically says “rape me!”

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      • Or posh girls love a bit of rough.. Do we really need these studies to tell us what we already knew at aged 14? Scientists have got a lot of fucking time on their hands.

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      • Do we really need these studies to tell us what we already knew at aged 14?

        We need them to prove it. Besides, not everyone knows this, not even in the alt-Right. Don’t assume that what should be taken for granted always is. That is why we need facts and statistics to show, even if you were sure of the result already. I am certain that not even all who visit the Chateau would make the same guesses about women’s relation to rape fantasies. So research sets things straight and steers the debate in the right direction.

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    • Maybe poorer, more down-trodden women don’t have rape fantasies

      That wasn’t what the study showed, it showed that women who are less sexually daring and enjoy sex less, have less rape fantasies.

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    • gals aren’t reading in the Congo. Writing is an artifact of the white male patriarchy. It was forced onto the Congolese by Portuguese explorers centuries ago. Oppression!!!

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  10. speaking of rape, check out the “Google Home Page Stick it to White Vets Graphic Rape.” Check out the white beta in the back waving “Hey, remember me? I’m a vet too.”

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    • The previous post has comments that discuss this disrespectful and disingenuous Google doodle.

      The military is 84% male and 70% white. Right now. It was more male and more white in the past, which is a majority of who we honor with Veteran’s Day.

      By the way, that’s not a white male. His skin is yellow and his eyes look slightly slanted. As I wrote in the previous post – he’s a halfling at least, an Asian at most.

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      • The military is 84% male and 70% white. Right now.

        And Blacks in the military disproportionately occupy non-combat roles. In the rear with the gear. Remember that when someone brings up “Black people join the army more!” Yes, more than 12 percent of the military is Black, while Blacks are only 12 percent of the population. That’s because they want cushy government jobs where there is no competition and tons of perks. Girlfriends of military men even get free wedding dresses now in some places.

        Speaking of that, it’s time for Americans to stop their senseless military worship, which is used to blind them to what their government is doing. Too many now think that everywhere the military goes it must be right for them to go, since they’re “heroes”, and if you have doubts you “don’t support the troops”. And the neocons laugh.

        The military worship comes from the media drumming it up of course, but that campaign was aided by the conservative yearning to win anywhere, any way. So while the country is flooded by immigration they can watch TV and feel like winners because their military is killing people somewhere else. Very insidious. The media were perfectly fine with demonizing the military when it fought the communist invasion of South Vietnam, but now that the government is completely controlled by the Left they find it useful to let loose the military worship, as the military will never again oppose their agenda.

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    • That whole Google graphics team needs to be tarred and feathered…

      Not one phiz of Washington or Lincoln and President’s Day, but every obscure female or negro painter, dancer, poet, whatever will appear each week.

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  11. Women lower on the totem pole do not have as many fantasies because they have a good idea of the quality of the man who would do the raping

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    • on November 11, 2015 at 12:08 pm The Spirit Within

      That’s as good an explanation as any. Proles also get less satisfaction from sex than educated people do.

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      • -Proles also get less satisfaction from sex than educated people do.
        It might have something to do with stress levels, or maybe upper class people have more active imagination, making sex more exciting, I have all kinds of friends and have noticed that rich people tend to get a lot more wound up about sex and are more likely to give a sex toy as a gift.

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  12. @ch These studies dont mention it but it is assumed that the women is fantasizing being raped by a high SMV man right? Not her BESTIE male friend

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    • The fantasy centers around the woman selecting the man, how and when he will “rape” her. So she has complete control over the conditions. This isn’t rape, but the feminists sure would like you to believe it is. We are now one step closer to conflating all male/female sex with violent, criminal acts.

      These female fantasies are akin to the fetish cuckholds who want to be “abused” and “used” by a hot, young, sexy dominatrix.

      I suggest you rethink this CH. You’re playing right into the feminist agenda.

      Rape looks more like this. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/13/the-gruesome-story-of-a-murdered-tennessee-couple-you-may-have-never-heard-about-but-that-you-will-never-forget/

      The average stranger rape lasts over 3 hours, on average, and the victim typically sustains major injuries, including stds, vaginal and anal tearing. I don’t think anyone on either side of this discussion seems to know what they fuck they are talking about.

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      • I don’t doubt you, but credentials is credentials…

        … we’ll have to wait for whorefinder to chime in with the final-word stats on this subject.

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      • “I suggest you rethink this CH. You’re playing right into the feminist agenda.”

        Not so. The rape fantasies ARE rape fantasies. They are just not violent and dirty. Everyone understands that they are fantasies where the rape scenario is more pleasant than it would be in reality.

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  13. “women who are lower in sociosexuality and in self-esteem have fewer reported rape fantasies.”

    because they know that nobody wants them.

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  14. The answer is obvious. Resource secure high self esteem women despise beta bucks and seek the most alpha of alpha fucks: the zfg zero investment rapist.

    LSE girls pine less for abandonment.

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  15. I started dating a cute as fuck divorced doctor chick during my divorce. (Insert let’s play doctor jokes here…) Her top fantasy was a very rough double penetration. I was getting it arranged but we broke it off before it could happen. Long story. She also played this coy game at the beginning of our tear that she wanted to “take it slow.” What she really wanted, like most women at the top of the stratum, was to be roughly taken and told what she was going to do. I didn’t take it slow. Man, she was horny as fuck.

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  16. on November 11, 2015 at 9:58 am Each Pond Gone

    Woman derives from the deep sea. Treat her as such

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    • Yeah, but Broseidon is still king of the brocean.

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    • “Hey babe, ready for my fish stick?”

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    • That’s why fish smell.

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      • Winner.

        Btw, when some smartass in my HS years told me a joke about Eve sticking a fish up her cooze being the reason for the smell of fish, I betrayed my kissless virgin status quite spectacularly by not getting the joke.

        1:”Vags smells like fish if unwashed” 2:”Dafuq am I supposed to know that?!” 1:”…….” 2:”Oh shit, right.”

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      • Speaking of smelly fish and high school jokes,

        “Pfft – the last sound a public hair makes before hitting the floor.”

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      • * pubic not public, obviously

        I didn’t get the joke at the time, had not yet been introduced to the pleasure of the open air fish market. Red snapper, it comes in many flavors and always in season.

        Salt pepper, lemon ginger garlic chives – anything to ease the sweet soulful sweat of it.

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      • If a gal breaks wind during sex and you find yourself exclaiming: “AHHHH… fresh air!”, she’s probably not wife material.

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      • It’s not as bad as a foot fetish, but yeah it probably is a genetically coded beta tell.

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      • “It’s not as bad as a foot fetish”

        If what they say about by all account alpha dudes is true, that’s not much of a beta tell.

        Then again, Goontin Tarantino….

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  17. Off topic, but have you guys seen the #NationalOffendACollegeStudentDay hashtag on Twitter? It’s a response to the PC insanity at Yale and Missouri over the last week. So much red-pill real talk. Brings a tear to the eye. Get in on the fun…

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    • Just started reading it before I came here. Love this one:

      “Want to close wage gap? Step one: Change your major from feminist dance therapy to electrical engineering.” -Christina H. Sommers

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    • And the #Mizzou hashtag, same thing.

      Going to an alt-Right-created hashtag, it’s amazing how many of the names I recognize and how many of them I have talked to. The Gang.

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      • @cuckservative
        Unconfirmed reports from #Mizzou indicate that the faculty has ignored the racism of white students actually knowing their fathers.

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      • …the racism of white students actually knowing their fathers.

        Point of order, as per the Cathedral playbook:

        That’s not racism, that’s white privilege.

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      • I always liked this line from JFK: This is New Orleans. How do you know who your pappy is? Cause your momma told you.

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  18. I presume it all comes back to a women’s simple desire to have a dominant man. If a woman has an aggressive personality then I guess the only fantasy scenario she imagines a man can be dominant is a rape scenario.

    I’d like to know what the study deems as “high self esteem” though- just to know exactly what kind of women we’re talking about.

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    • If a woman has an aggressive personality then I guess the only fantasy scenario she imagines a man can be dominant is a rape scenario.

      It doesn’t say the women are aggressive, don’t falsify.

      I’d like to know what the study deems as “high self esteem” though- just to know exactly what kind of women we’re talking about.

      High self-esteem is not something you can twist and turn, psychology is pretty clear on what that is. You also missed the part where it says these are women high in erotophilia, meaning women who enjoy sex a lot.

      Women’s sex drives differ greatly in strength, I have noticed. Some just dip their toes and think that’s enough. They are like a woman standing on the beach, splashing water over herself and saying that since her body is now all wet she has experienced the ocean, and it’s mostly cold and nothing special. Then there is the woman who dives in and splashes around until she gets warm from swimming. She swims here and there and up and down. Both get equally wet from the water, but only one truly learns what the ocean is like.

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      • I wasn’t attempting to falsify. I’m just building on conversations I have had with other women and the type of personality that has a liking for the Shades of Grey type thing. My impression of women who self identify as having high self esteem are the type A, hard charging career women. But I could be wrong. Those books did make the rounds among the stay-at-home mommy crowd. My book club (which is a mixture of both types) came to the conclusion that the careerist types were more into bondage fantasies than the others because they desired giving up control in their private lives since they weren’t able to do so at work.

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      • I think their evaluation of which women have high self-esteem is not to simply ask them that, but to ask them about several different scenarios.

        I think the careerist types were more into bondage fantasies not because they have control at work, but because they are more daring. That would lead them to many more sex scenarios, not just bondage, though that’s the one that might be noticed the most. I imagine they would also be more open to sex in public places, sex in different parts of the home, sex several times a day, sex recordings, sex in front of a mirror, sexual roleplay, group sex .. ah, good times.

        And probably they’d be better at oral sex. I have noticed that not all women are. Give me their phone numbers and I’ll check.

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    • I’ve experienced it with both aggressive and meek personality types – and most often with women of above average looks and intelligence. However esteem plays into it – it’s not something they’re looking to maintain right then.

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  19. I Fucking Love SCIENCE!

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  20. Are there any women left, in the post-Facebook era, who aren’t high self-esteem?

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    • zero.
      on tinder, i saw a 4’11” fat disabled gray-haired 37 year old demanding someone over 6 feet with car, job, house, etc.
      she’ll never get it, but that she feels rational demanding it tells us this is indeed peak female narcissism.
      only complete collapse can solve this problem.

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    • A lot of studies show Facebook actually reduces self-esteem. Users end up comparing themselves to the highlight reels of other’s lives. What FB does increase is a feeling of entitlement and the status anxiety that everyone has it better than you, which is kerosene for hypergamy.

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      • Ah stands corrected.

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      • on November 11, 2015 at 12:05 pm The Spirit Within

        Yes. Inverse relationship between social media use and self-esteem. Lots of studies coming back with the same results.

        Don’t expect Greg Eliot to really understand what the kids are doing these days. His most recent cultural reference is shooting marbles in the schoolyard with Spanky and Alfalfa. He’s out of touch and proud of it. Hint to Greg: Wanna change society? Work with what we have, not with what you hope to make. More people will listen to you.

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      • “Don’t expect Greg Eliot to really understand what the kids are doing these days. His most recent cultural reference is shooting marbles in the schoolyard with Spanky…”

        Spirit, Spanky is my pet name for Greg…don’t be hijacking it for your churlish criticisms.

        ((Shakin mah fist))

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      • My advice to you, Strapon, is to stay off my lawn.

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      • The Spirit Within is that guy who can’t stand people being happy at a party, so he has to angrily attack people who make more money for being capitalists, just to have something to use against them.

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  21. “What’s equally interesting is why women who are lower in sociosexuality and in self-esteem have fewer reported rape fantasies.”

    Because they know their background/status won’t provoke the men they really want to take anything from them.

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  22. Higher self-esteem > stronger defences > desire for defences to be forcibly breached

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    • This is, what, the second time a video by this smarmy Subcontinent refugee has been posted at the chateau?

      With his White girlfriend making goo-goo eyes at him, when she’s not reciting the inane over-the-top script?

      Clever satire this is not. A certain amount of subtlety and believable dialogue is needed to “hit the mark” as it were.

      This is more lightning bug than lightning.

      Stop giving this “one of the good ones” coloured clown legs.

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  23. The sexual (not erotic) power of a woman is based upon her ability to actively attract sexual (not erotic) interest and then sexual (not erotic) investment from men. Erotic power, which is the domain of sluts and whores, pales against sexual power, which is the domain of wives and matriarchs.

    A woman raped is a woman pwned – and that ownership implies support. A man cucked is a man enslaved – and that enslavement makes a woman (ir)responsible for the man. A woman who adopts such a sexual strategy – cucking – is mal-adapted for sexual reproduction, but well adapted for erotic encounters, hence the short-term profit in whoring resulting in long-term losses.

    The question shouldn’t be, “Why don’t some women have rape fantasies?” Instead, why don’t we teach woman to fantasize about rape in order to build self-esteem and improve sexual success for women?

    Here’s an idea: Teach women to attract male sexual (not erotic) attention.

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    • Now this I find interesting. So what I think you are saying ttclod is, the ideal women should achieve the ability to both attract a man with her sexual AND erotic power. Not that I hadn’t assumed that already just that I hadn’t thought of it in quite the way you explained it.

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    • On second thought, that’s not what you were saying perhaps though I can’t imagine a man unhappy with a good woman who can bear his children who can also please him in bed.

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      • Which is hotter?

        “I want to have your baby!”

        or

        “I want to have you abortion!”

        This is the difference between eroticism and sexuality.

        If you want to know which better pleases a man, consider RooshV’s recent essays regarding his own long-term search for a sexual (not erotic) partner.

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    • Erotic power, which is the domain of sluts and whores, pales against sexual power, which is the domain of wives and matriarchs.

      Okay….

      This reminds me of Oswald Spengler’s twisting of the words “culture” and “civilization” to his own definitions, which had little to do with the definitions everyone else used.

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      • It bugs me when I hear faggots use words like heterosexual/homosexual when humans don’t come in other biological varieties. A person engages in either heterosexual copulation or homoerotic depravity. Same goes with condoms: it’s not “sex” if conception’s off the table.

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      • “it’s not “sex” if conception’s off the table.”

        You’re retarded.

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  24. “What’s equally interesting is why women who are lower in sociosexuality and in self-esteem have fewer reported rape fantasies.”

    They don’t think anyone would WANT to rape them, so fantasies of being raped seem implausible to them. More evidence that rape is about sex, not power, duh.

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    • The usual suspect with the usual HuffPo/DC credentials.

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    • LOL. Yes 1/5 women are raped on campus. Let’s say you have a campus of 40K students (typical for a big school), and we know women tend to have a slight majority in population, so let’s say there are 22K women and 18K men. That means 4,400 women will be raped across a four-year span in college, meaning 1,100 women will be raped every year on a college campus. Let that sink in.

      This shit as about as bogus as the pay wage gap.

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      • 1,100 women in a year

        550 per semester

        A semester averages about 12 weeks, so that’s 45 per week, about six a day.

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      • However, given that current pressure-to-be-a-slut, I can fully believe that on your average mega-campus there is a daily average of 6 sexual encounters regretted post-hoc by the female students.

        Regret rape!

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      • “That means 4,400 women will be raped across a four-year span in college, meaning 1,100 women will be raped every year on a college campus.”

        Maybe on campuses(campi?) with Division I football and basketball. Muh Dick!

        [CH: the campus rate stats regurgitated by feminists are a complete fabrication. a brazen lie. that they keep getting the chance to repeat them to credulous media outlets shows how far into clown world america has descended.]

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      • “A woman is raped in college an average of 6 times per week.”

        “Maybe she should consider a trade school?”

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      • The “one in five women raped on campus” came from a feminist having female students fill out surveys on two of the most leftist universities. With students being asked to volunteer, telling them what the studies would be about, so naturally feminist students would flock to them.

        But the results were not satisfying – too few rapes reported. So the feminist wrote a new survey and did it again, with questions like “have you ever regretted sex” and “have you ever felt that you were pressured into having sex”. And any Yes answer to these was declared to indicate rape. But people are never told about this origin of the 1/5 figure.

        Ever regretted sex? Hell, even many MEN can say yes to that one.

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      • “[CH: the campus rate stats regurgitated by feminists are a complete fabrication. a brazen lie. that they keep getting the chance to repeat them to credulous media outlets shows how far into clown world america has descended.]”

        It cannot be overstated how true this is. It’s really no exaggaration that America is close to Soviet level veracity in reporting.

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  25. This plays into dread, doesn’t it? If a woman has high-self esteem, she’s probably not with a man that’s invoking (even un-intentionally) dread. If she feels as though she’s in his frame, it would have to lower her self-esteem, wouldn’t it?

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  26. on November 11, 2015 at 1:10 pm gunslingergregi

    so what does it mean when im looking forward to my blond chicks bi-annual visit
    i see her like twice a year when she shows up from wherever the hell she comes then she disapears think she might have the bill gates prenump with someone lol
    so far one knock at door early this mornin
    but the hot blond is the first i ever let rape me he he he
    same one last year that limped out my house with her shoe off rofl
    and the neighbor chick said i want some of what your giving away
    might be ruining it though since im thinking about it got to appear like a ghost
    anyone else have a ghost chick like that
    no calls no nothing just shows up

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  27. Listening to Trump never gets old. How about Trump’s expert use of the classic hot/cold seduction technique:

    Btw I love China, the chinese buy my $15m apartments, but “4 point plan that will murder them economically for our benefit”

    Carson/Rubio/Bush is a really nice guy, I like him a lot, but “vicious outline of how he’s a weak corporate puppet pussy”

    I love the Mexican people, I’m doing very well with the hispanic vote but if I’m elected they’re fucking gone and we’re building a cement wall so no more can come in

    I love Israel, I will totally support Israel, but neocon wars are bullshit, and we’re building a wall just like they have. problem, eskimos?

    Listening to Trump’s stump speeches has actually improved my game. I’ve been a bit too blunt or too harsh with teasing in the past, and I’m dropping in more compliments to smooth out the jagged edges. It works.

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    • I’m realizing that his answers are just that: answers. He’s not hemming and hawing for validation or anything of the sort. He gives direct, bold answers and for my money, that’s why people do not like him. Because they don’t have the brass tacks to be that honest about anything they answer; always overlooking their shoulder in case anyone calls them out. His strength exposes their weaknesses and they despise him for that.

      And, like someone else mentioned earlier, he does not attack, that is, call someone out unrequited. What he says is usually in response to a question that was asked for follow-up to the convo. If you go after him, he does not relent.

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    • Trump will create a Deportation Force.

      Jan 2017 , I am going to send in my resume.

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  28. on November 11, 2015 at 1:35 pm al gore rhythms

    “What’s equally interesting is why women who are lower in sociosexuality and in self-esteem have fewer reported rape fantasies”

    My initial thought that a woman with high self-esteem will imagine a man raping her because they have lost control when confronted with a woman of irresistible beauty, whereas the woman of low self-esteem will imagine the man raping her in a dismissive, ‘used me like a piece of meat’ way, just because she happened to be there for him. This is probably something they have related from their actual sex lives (not being cruel, I can just imagine this might be the case).

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  29. One day, a shrill, blue-haired feminist will tell the wrong bloke (probably a guy named something like Ahmed or Jamal) to check his male privilege, and no one will be there to intervene as this not-so-peaceful bloke procedes to inform her, in the most brutal way possible, that the privileges she used to enjoy as a member western civilization (which, ironically, she deliberately worked to undermine) have now been revoked.

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    • That’s fucking pathetic tbh. RIsking your life for a stranger who doesn’t give a shit about you. Oh I know, she’s got a cooch. Whatever.

      You can tell Mr Pervert to fuck himself/piss off, without initiating a lynch mob, as it were.

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      • If a stranger is being bullied, be it man or woman, I intervene.

        Always have, always will.

        But I won’t take credit, it’s just something that comes out… like it’s hard-wired within me.

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      • I will say, though, in this instance, I don’t like the whole “staging” thing, and I might have actually grabbed both of them angrily and told them not to try and play people like that.

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  30. CH, you rarely make a misstep. But in the mammalian brain sexual impulses originate in cortical and subcortical regions, which are part of the forebrain, not the hindbrain. Not every cheap shot should be taken.

    [CH: that’s not true. the pleasure center originates in the limbic system which is colloquially the hindbrain. also don’t know what you mean by cheap shot.]

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  31. OT:

    I don’t know if this guy qualifies as an alpha, but he surely is bad ass and gives exactly 0.0 fucks: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/09/french-farmer-flap-pants-tells-bird-activists-shove-off

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  32. In German YT Google has an ad for a German to Arabic translater to help “refugees”.

    I can’t wait for the day of the rope. Even if I have to be in the same line. LOZLOLZOLOZLOZLOZLOLZOLZOLOLZ

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  33. There are good women fighting the same fight as you men:

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    • Gotta love Anonymous commenters that point to controlled opposition.

      Truth is that Christina Hoff Somers and other so-called ‘dissident’ or ‘equity’ feminists rely on the more radical feminists to provide a foil for them. ‘Look, look, we are so much more reasonable than they are’.

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    • Gotta love anonymous posters that point you in the direction of controlled opposition.

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  34. “Whatever you say about Ayn Rand, she wasn’t a lacking in toughness and independance”

    The story is that in her entire youth, Rand (Alice Rosenbaum) attracted the attention of only one guy she regarded as desirable, who apparently was just toying with her (a psychological pump ‘n dump). She seems to have been obsessed with him for the rest of her life. (Five minutes of alpha…) Entered USA on a temporary visa and made the first move on an attractive gentile beta (an Irishman working as a film extra) resulting in her being spared (citizenship via marriage) having to go back to the Soviet Union. She cucked that husband for years (in their very house!), rationalizing it with her philosophy, until her young lover left in revulsion when she had gone babushka,

    Rand was an archtypical smart-and-horny homely girl, and being taken by an alpha was central to her view of romance.

    Whether or not you care for her writings, the biographies by Barbara Weidman and Nathan Blumenthal (who were the top dogs in the group of worshipful youths she surrounded herself with) make for some very interesting reading.Stranger than fiction.

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    • She had a sick personal life. And she was very rough looking and masculine. But her work and what she was able to accomplish is truly impressive.

      I would also point out that a many of players on the world stage had some pretty dodgy personal lives. She was not a normal person and should not be looked at as one.

      Fact of the matter is she carried the torch by herself for years, making what freedom lovers are doing today possible.

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      • totally agree with you here. she was not a ‘normal’ person. nor was she what most of us would want in a mate. doesn’t make her work any less valuable.

        this is true with most of people in our world who have a made a big impact. the most brilliant inventors, scientists, entrepreneurs, artists, in our world have all had some big deficits in their personalities, appearance, etc.. doesn’t minimize their contributions.

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    • One other thing, if you have not read her work you are missing a key part of the debate underway today. The perspective of history shines a bright light.

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  35. “[CH: the campus rate stats regurgitated by feminists are a complete fabrication. a brazen lie. that they keep getting the chance to repeat them to credulous media outlets shows how far into clown world america has descended.]”

    Just about every standard feminist talking point for decades now (wage gap, glass ceiling, male-female domestic violence rates, proportion of rape allegations that are false etc. etc.) has been a demonstrable lie, easily refuted and nowhere near close to the truth.

    The fact that they have been able to get away with it for so long is a study in brainwashing and social programming, but also indicative of how irrationally sympathetic people are to female grievance and indifferent to anything that affects males.

    For many years now I have been thinking, ‘they can’t keep getting away with this crap for much longer, surely’. But it seems that the capacity to believe in utter horseshit is endless.

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  36. Anyone else had a speculative thought that lower self-esteem women has less rape fantasies because their “submission” quota is already filled. Higher self esteem desire a bit more “force” to achieve that missing feeling.

    [CH: could be something to that.]

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    • This was actually my immediate reaction to the post title.

      The more “accomplishments” a woman has, be it credentialist like a law degree or a great air conditioned linkedin job, or social such as instagram followers or alpha male attention, the more asshole game she needs.

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    • IMO, “self esteem” is an illusion at best. I prefer to think of it as “degree of narcissism”. Some of the scummiest people on Earth have the highest self esteem.

      So basically what this article said to me is that sheltered women who haven’t experienced a certain amount of trauma in their lives, romanticize violent scenarios more than women who know they’re not untouchable.

      I’m not sure if it’s that the less sheltered/entitled women have filled their submission quota. Maybe it’s that they have seen and experienced enough to understand that it’s not all bodice ripping and feverish violins. They know people can be cruel, and so it’s that their shit-taking quota is filled. The fantasy of a woman already taking a lot of crap from people is to meet someone who is not going to treat her like so much crap…or at least will treat her like special crap.

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  37. The most spirited girls having the strongest rape fantasies?

    No damn surprise. I have a woman friend (who I have no attraction to) was a very headstrong liberal writer. And she wrote the wildest sci-fic rape and breeding short stories, mostly about women kept as naked breeding slaves by the giant bug-like aliens. There was never a hint of escape. And the girls love every minute of their erotic submission. I noticed that she have a very high opinion of herself and enjoy erotica of all kinds so there was no chance of her ever being a quiet submissive wife. That was a major Red Pill moment in my Blue Pill days.

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  38. Every tribesman knows the prettiest girls need the biggest show of force to take them. It goes hand-in-hand with their sexual value. Civilized women are only a few veneers different. I still have to seduce my girlfriend at least half the time. Fortunately, I like the game. It’s good practice.

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  39. It’s been theorized that forceful submission fantasies are actually the dominant female’s means of trying to connect with a dominant male.

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  40. No doubt almost no one is paying attention (to comments) at this point, but there is a serious problem with the “self-esteem” aspect here. It has been noted scientifically (and surely most men have noted anecdotally) that women with higher promiscuity women have lower self-esteem. That does not match up with what the authors are saying here. The problem is probably that self-assessments of self-esteem have over recent decades become un-reliable, no that everybody has had it drummed into their heads that they should have high self-esteem. The syndrome of 30-something professional women who are cock-carouselers (complete with the thousand cock stare) should be familiar at this point. Virtually all such women claim to have high self-esteem. And virtually all do not.

    [CH: I’m not so sure about this. i’ve found that gogrrl cock carouselists have pretty high self-esteem. the real low self-esteem winnners, er losers, are the fatties and plain jane bluehairs shrieking about how hot they are to men.]

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    • Excuse the sperginess, but its purr-fekt hamster lojik.

      high self-perceived SMV means even the best man would need force to reach the hamsters’ (self perceived) level.

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  41. This makes me want to reread some of those Planet of Gor novels. On Gor Intelligence is prized in pleasure slaves.

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  42. […] Science: women with high self esteem have more rape fantasies. […]

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