Women Prefer Jerks And Men Prefer Nicegirls

Chicks dig aloof and indifferent jerks. It’s a stereotype for a reason. Our ancestors who had experience with women beyond typing furious white knight screeds on feminist blogs and collecting cheetos dust in their manboob cleavage have witnessed this adage in action so often that it’s long been accepted wisdom, passed down from grandfather to father to son. (Until the chain of realtalk was broken with the advent of equalism.)

This facet of female sexual nature is so plain as day that even indignant feminists and ignoramus tradcons have conceded some ground on the issue. As they have retreated in shame ahead of the advancing armies of the Chateau id-palers, they’ve been reduced to arguing “yeah, well, ok but so do men!” and babbling incoherent nonsense about men preferring “bitches”.

CH corrected their misunderstanding in as gentle a manner as befits this noble house, noting that, absent a few rare self-gelding exceptions to the rule, the desire to love and be loved by a jerk is a far stronger and frequently expressed impulse in women than the desire to love a bitch is in those few men who like to be pegged.

Or: If the “bitch” is hot, men will still want to fuck her, albeit with reservations concerning any long-term commitment potential. If the “bitch” is not hot, they won’t.

Women, as is their sex’s formerly inscrutable wont, are markedly different from men in this regard. The jerkboy attitude ITSELF is inherently attractive to women, and women even prefer to harness the commitment of jerks to the detriment of beta male supplicants.

But, why bother retelling the wisdom of the ancients and of the clear-eyed moderns to low born plebes when one can summon a mighty Shiv forged of Heartistian steel instead? A twist of the hilt and equalist ego guts spill out in technicolor anguish.

Men are sexually attracted to women who show an interest in them or who are responsive during a date, the study found. On the flip side, women are not sexually interested in the responsive men they meet for the first time, the research also discovered.

“We wanted to understand the reasons for these gender differences,” said the study’s lead researcher, Gurit Birnbaum, an associate professor of psychology at the Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) Herzliya in Israel. “What makes a responsive woman sexually attractive, and what makes a responsive man less sexually attractive?” […]

Men who perceive women to be interested in them rated the women as more feminine and sexually attractive. They also showed more interest in having long-term relationships with the responsive women than with the nonresponsive women.

Men dig non-bitchy, feminine women. Commence with the flabbergasting!

At the end of each experiment, the students rated their partners on scales such as responsiveness, attractiveness and masculinity or femininity.

Gender-based stereotypes may play a role in the men’s preference for responsive women, Birnbaum said. During a first date, people tend to rely on gender stereotypes for how they think a person should act. Men may find women more attractive if they fit the female stereotype of showing care and concern, she added.

Nope.

Or, men may think that responsive women are sexually interested in them. This may explain why men rate these “nice” women as more attractive and feminine, Birnbaum said.

Bingo. Also, I’d add that a nice, feminine woman signals to a man that she’ll be a faithful wife and nurturing mother to his children.

“I didn’t know until this [journal] article that men perceive responsive women not only as feminine, but also as sexually arousing,” Finkel told Live Science in an email. “I could have imagined a different set of results in which men found such women feminine, but then viewed them as dainty or less sexually desirable. Birnbaum and colleagues showed that the opposite is true.”

Yes, nicegirls aren’t just admirable or coveted for nonsexual reasons; they are also very arousing to men.

In contrast to the men, the women in the study did not rate the responsive men as more attractive or masculine than the nonresponsive men — a finding that surprised experts.

“Nonresponsive” = “jerk”.

The study did not reveal why women are not sexually interested in responsive men on the first date, but Birnbaum offered several ideas.

Women are typically more cautious daters than men are, and may be skeptical of a responsive man, Birnbaum said. Or, she added, women may think the men are trying too hard to win their affection and get them into bed.

Or, women may see responsive men as eager to please, or even desperate, Birnbaum said. Perhaps, the researchers noted, women may view a responsive man as vulnerable and less dominant.

Bingos all around!

“Regardless of the reasons, perhaps men should slow down, if their goal is to instill sexual desire,” Birnbaum said.

Or, be a challenge.

For Hivemind takes on the studies, see “Study finds that men like nice women, but not the other way around” and “Why playing hard to get only works for men.”

Mmmm. The Scalzied tears of a feminist clown.

So here we come to the close of yet another series of studies which vindicate CH teachings and game. I’d say my turgid vanity couldn’t handle any more old fashioneds, but no, my appetite for strokings is inexhaustible.

Lesson for women: The way to a man’s heart is straight and true.

Lesson for men: The way to a woman’s heart is oblique and discreet.





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  1. […] Women Prefer Jerks And Men Prefer Nicegirls […]

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    • For me this has never been complicated. Here are my most important rules for being a good wife:
      Cook like a Chef
      Fuck like a Slut
      Respect him and treat him like a God
      Never ever nag him, yell at him or bad mouth him, period.
      Keep myself pretty and sexy for him

      Women cannot demand love from their man. They can however command it by being feminine, submissive, sexy and agreeable.

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      • …attention whore on the interwebs…haha I jest love…

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      • a gay canadian porn star killed his lover, ate him, cannibalized him, after he cannibalized him, he put it on video, eating him and cutting him up, as the man was in the throes of death, you could hear him screaming because he was bound of course, you could hear the victim screaming, which seemed to make the killer even hungrier, he ate his viscera and feasted on different organs…I mean this guy was a real jerk

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 11:48 pm Alex Jones SuperFan

        ^ Typical queer behavior.

        Anyways, I imagine that desidassi is more likely a redpilled male attempting to capitalize on the PUA demographic than an actual attention whore. I can understand the appeal.

        >tfw not a BASED and REDPILLED Swami with direct knowledge of The Absolute obtained via sex tantra
        >tfw no hawt BASED and REDPILLED Traditionalist Hindu wife to perform sex tantra with

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    • Who we will fuck is one thing, but only a fool would marry a not-nice girl. Your life would be hell.

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  2. Bicthes can be fun to hate fuck, IYKWIM.

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    • And women lovefuck jerks.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 2:25 pm Zombie Shane

        Okay, that’s a weird thought. Maybe the ladies at the Chateau could chime in here – what’s it like the next morning after having been on the receiving end of a hate fuck? Do you feel disgusted with yourself?

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      • Shane, you’re asking women for accurate introspection coupled with honest disclosure.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:00 pm Zombie Shane

        LOL’ed. But can you imagine it from the chick’s perspective: “I got hate-fucked in my rectum last night, and he pulled my hair and he even left bruise marks on my throat from choking me!”

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:04 pm Zombie Shane

        “And now he won’t answer my repeated phone calls and I have to wear a turtleneck to work and I am having trouble holding in my bowel movements! Yippee!! Me Go Girl!!!”

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:09 pm Zombie Shane

        When I was a kid, there was a quaint old-fashioned notion called “Post Coital Depression”.

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      • … what’s it like the next morning after having been on the receiving end of a hate fuck? Do you feel disgusted with yourself?…

        Most women are probably a little bit disgusted with themselves… yet still intensely horny for that guy…and dream of “taming” him and making him fall in love with them…exactly as in the book “Fifty shades of Grey” which has sold well over one hundred million copies.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 2:06 pm Zombie Shane

      > “fun to hate fuck”

      Would this phenomenon even have existed 55 or 60 years ago, before the advent of chemical abortifacients and mechanical abortions? A man would have had to pause and think long and hard about what he might be getting himself into with a hate fuck.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 2:41 pm A Random Guy

        Then again, 55-60 years ago, there was no child support industry, so if a woman got herself knocked up, too bad for her…

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 3:04 pm Zombie Shane

        So maybe that’s why they needed infanticide when Imperial Rome was going to hell in a handbasket – there was so much hate-fucking going on that nine months later you were seeing the births of the “hate child” [instead of the “love child”] and so the poor kids were abandoned to the wolves?

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      • Exactly. This is what other women mean, I think. The Literature they are talking about is modern books saying women must be a “challenge” or hyper selective about spouse. Naturally pre abortion and pre contraceptive women HAD to be more selective. Women could not risk become pregnant by a loser. Because if the loser decided to leave her, she would be raiseing the baby alone.

        But now with abortions, and contraceptives women can go with any man, and have therefore lost the art of of being a “challenge”. They have no reason to be challenge if they can murder the offspring of said loser. That is why there is now “literature” explaining how women should be attractive and a challenge to men.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 3:05 pm Zombie Shane

        It would certainly give a huge demographic advantage to a group like the early Christians, who loved their children rather than hating them.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:21 pm gunslingergregi

        world war two dudes were paying child support

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:56 pm A Random Guy

        Yeah, but it wasn’t a federalized racket like it is now. It’s a recent phenomenon that a guy who knocked up some chick couldn’t just ‘go elsewhere’ to get away from her…

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  3. Balderdash. Men do not like nice girls. They are just as tempted by flash and dazzle as women are. Until men choose and reward nice girls with marriage, nice girls will continue to go extinct.

    [CH: flash and dazzle are not the opposite of nice. not nice is the opposite of nice.]

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    • Men DO choose and reward nice girls, just not as often as you would like and it’s usually betas who do it, i.e. nobody for vaginahavers.

      Also, divorce rape etc.

      [CH: ugly nicegirls don’t get rewarded. but then the problem isn’t their niceness.]

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      • All else equal, naturally.

        I think she’s talking about higher betas/alphas, refusing to comit to solid marriage material women. Decent looking, but player isn’t interested for the long haul, because who needs that shit these days.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 2:09 pm Zombie Shane

        A truly nice girl isn’t going to divorce rape you. Your biggest problem is that you won’t discover that she was faking the nice girl routine until you get served with the divorce rape papers.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 2:12 pm Zombie Shane

        1) Unless she’s a nice girl and you deserve to get divorce raped.

        2) On the fakery of nice-girl-ism: Learn to sniff out the very faintest whiffs of Darkness in her heart. And if your instincts say, “Run Forrest Run!”, then run.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 3:25 pm Joe Sixpack

        There is a rare strain of girl who is kryptonite to even a hardcore player’s desire to be single and free:

        The hotchick (8+, calbrated to Southern California where I am familiar to the scene, not Smalltown USA prom queen) who has an incredible body, who could easily be a bottleservice golddigger starfucker bitch, but for her own reasons absolutely REFUSES to see herself as being hot.

        Maybe she was a late bloomer, socialized as a nicegirl, picked on into high school because of acne or headgear braces or simply being a threat to the highschool peaked out coolgirls.

        Maybe she just does not like the club scene, she has an aversion to douchebag comeons and prefers a good book on the couch over a loud nightlclub till 3am, and hangover till 3pm the next day.

        Whatever the case, this rare girl often dresses a bit down, perhaps due to insane (unwanted) attention when she so much as puts on a tank top and jeans. She often works out quite a bit, as she compares herself physically not to the 6s and 7s, but the 8s and 9s and 9.5s she sees in her social circle. Because such women are often drawn to each other in social circles.

        She may have a lower sex drive than most sluts or simply feels gross sleeping around, or may withhold due to a Christian belief. This girl is often a bit flirtatious, yet coy and feminine and fiercely loyal to a boyfriend if she has one.

        The mere sight of her, her smell, how she walks and moves throws your libido into overdrive and your illogical, ancient biological urge to impregnate her hijacks your brain.

        And yet, just as intensely, you feel a strong biological masculine urge to protect her, to shield her, to help her, as her femininity oozes through her soft voice, big eyes and how easily she laughs at your teases.

        I’ve known a couple girls who come very close to this description. They are out there. One in particular, I like to give a hard time about her (nearly perfect hourglass) body and she likes to “get mad” and shoulderpunch me, etc. She, however, is married and fiercely loyal yet is still flirty and called me a jerk for taking too long to respond to her FB friend request.

        I asked her, “when you look in the mirror at home, do you like what you see?”. She said, “I see fat”. Such girls are so close to an ideal bodytype so close to perfection, that they seek to imitate the unattainable, so they still feel unattractive. It is an insane phenomenon, but such girls do exist. Of course, they exist in much higher quantity in high woman:man ratio areas where competition is fierce for male attention.

        Such girls always retain their femininity, and may flirt, but do not tease and tantalize men before yanking the rug out from under them with the Boyfriend Card. While insecure about their looks, they are very secure about their choice to be in a relationship and avoid the bullshit of the dating world.

        CH always advises girls to be hot and nice, that’s their “girlgame.” And that is pretty much it. For LTR, and landing Alphas (which I know CH has touched on in various posts), I would add, be available, be loyal, be modest in attitude (everyone knows it is not an achievement for a woman to sleep with a man, it’s a guarantee; men are impressed by how man men a woman COULD be with, but has chosen to reserve her naked gifts for your eyes only), and be feminine/submissive.

        The closer a girl can align with that, the more suitors (and I mean very high quality suitors, as in socially powerful Alphas rethinking their single player lifestyle) from which she will be able to choose. Such girls are lethal to a man’s relationship resistance.

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    • Kate, I think SOME men are like that. I know many men who are crazy for women who are a little bit of.. bitchy. I remember you said something before about men do not like nice girls and I noticed that in some men, yes.

      I think the dynamic in relationship/marriage when the woman is not nice to the man is a little bit like the man constantly trying to conquer the woman. Maybe he has low self esteem, and maybe each time he makes her “nice” it helps his self esteem and sense of masculinity.

      But I think a lot of healthy men, like men in Church, and my god brother want kind women. Maybe because they are comfortable in their role as man. I asked my god brother if he likes women who look mean or moody, and he said they are “interesting” but he would not marry one.

      Maybe it is a cultural difference.Women there maybe are not expected to be nice, so men’s preferences adjusted accordingly?

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      • Yep. I was one of those men who unfortunately dug bitchy women. Married one in fact. I could kid myself and say that I dug her confidence and self-assured nature, but I think it was really about the challenge. Big mistake.

        Thing is, I had my alpha days in high school and college. I don’t know what changed to make me dig this bitchy woman early on but it’s a thoroughly unpleasant challenge now that we have children together. Sadly, she continues to revel in her bitchiness, even peacocking it as an asset.

        It was a total turnoff after awhile, but until rediscovering my formerly (and long dormant) alpha self, I could never quite explain why. Sadly, I fear it’s probably too late in my case. Just this morning she arrogantly crowed “Aren’t you glad that I’m such a [ball busting bitchy businesswoman]” when I’m the one still bringing home 90% of the income. Absolutely delusional.

        I just stared at her in shock for a moment, frowned, shook my head and walked away thinking how nice it would be if she was nice and feminine instead.

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    • Men do not like nice girls.

      The hell we don’t…

      You’re mistaking the hooting and hollering at the titty bar for men with marriage in mind.

      So go back to being nice, boopsie.

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    • Nice girls get rewarded all the time. There just are many less nice girls than there used to be. I’d say being nice and feminine vs ‘mannish,’ is worth about 2 points; in an ideal world you choose the nice and feminine 9…but most men would take the 7 who behaves like a woman as a girlfriend over any 9’s ‘I’m so fancy’ histrionics.

      [CH: do you know what kind of girl has to beat off the quality men with a stick? a nice, caring, nurturing, feminine girl who looks like monica belucci in her prime.]

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 2:44 pm A Random Guy

        For a moment, I thought you said ‘like Monica Lewinski’ 🙂

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      • Nice girls with those kinds of looks seem to be married by 19. So…yeah

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:28 pm gunslingergregi

        nice can be relative though
        my girl was kicking her husband in head in car before screaming at him
        used to have screaming matches with mom I guess
        around me she is an angel and so is everyone else
        one man can make a difference on a whole group of people

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      • Monica Belucci…YES.
        She’s pushing 50 now. Would still bang.

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      • If she’s beating men off with a stick, she’s doing it wrong.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 8:57 pm Zombie Shane

        Man, if I had been the Merovingian, and if I had found out that Neo had been messing around with my wife, then I would have been all “You little red-pill swallowing mother-fucker, I am going to hunt you down and pluck out your eyeballs and skull-fuck your brains!!!”

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      • “If she’s beating men off with a stick, she’s doing it wrong”

        Huh?

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 3:22 pm holisticgame

      Men want kind, feminine, empathetic, compassionate ATTRACTIVE girls. Generally if there’s a little bit of a fun streak (i.e. she can give as well as she can take with teasing/flirting) it’s icing on the cake. We don’t want bitchy, we want fun, intelligent, and feminine.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 5:41 pm Holden Caulfield

      Gas Buttox to the courtesy phone. Kate is awaiting your instructions.

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  4. But of course you know there’s a whole body of “literature” out there (some of it written by men) explaining that men like a “challenge” and they won’t value a girl too easily won over. Just sayin’.

    [CH: no there isn’t. not any “literature” worth the internet hovel it’s printed in, at any rate. and if you keep riding this lie you love you will banned forever from here. last warning.

    ps holding out for sex and not appearing too slutty are not the same thing as being a nonresponsive unfeminine bitch. but you knew that already.]

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    • But of course you know there’s a whole body of “literature” out there (some of it written by men) explaining that men like a “challenge” and they won’t value a girl too easily won over. Just sayin’.

      Fuck, what’s the point of teaching women to read if they read whatever the fuck they want the words to say instead of what’s actually there? We should just give you all blank books and you can make up the story however you want it to go. It’s basically what you do anyways.

      Man writes: Guys will look at girls wearing low cut tops
      Girl reads: RAPE SHOULD BE LEGAL!

      Whorefinder also happens to read that but he’s an outlier

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    • All attractive women are a challenge by virtue of having many options in the dating market. I’m not sure what your point is.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 1:48 pm 3 hole punch

      men like a challenge in everything except a woman. real men assume the battle to win a real woman is over before he approaches as the real war is and always has been within himself.

      discounting rape play, nothing ruins my hardon like a fight.

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    • Amy, you mistake “challenge” for “bitchiness”…

      A girl “too easily won over” usually means “slut” (“won over” being a somewhat disingenuous euphemism, since I believe we’re not talking about merely being attracted and agreeing to a date)…

      And men will not marry sluts… at least not knowingly… and not men with options.

      So, yeah, quality men like quality women, and quality women don’t put out for a song and a dance.

      Sheesh, let’s not be dim here.

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      • No… of course I know bitchiness is a turnoff. My understanding of “challenge” is playing hard to get. Which isn’t really consistent with showing sexual interest on the first date. How is it feminine to show sexual interest right away? Unless I’m not defining “responsive” correctly.

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      • on August 1, 2014 at 8:52 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        Amy, showing sexual interest is consistent with being a challenge, much like if I appear to be receptive to the idea of doing a tour of my country on a bike doesn’t imply I will just get on my bike and go in the next 10 minutes. Showing interest and restraining that interest and hence showing some degree of control that disappears due to the man’s prowess is what men mean by a woman being a challenge. We largely don’t give a shit about women who don’t show interest, unless they are really good looking.

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    • Amy, many of the great romances of literature are about men falling in love with feminine women. The paradox of women being that they may seem weak, (we are less physically strong.)but are fiercely loving and strong in love, and our strength is in our love, kindness and nurturing.

      To be a challenge does not mean one is not a nice woman, it is a natural part of selecting a mate. For example, women “fitness” test the man first, yes, different women to different extent. And a man demonstrates his worth. I would not say this is not “nice”, because it is part of nature. 🙂 .

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      • However, I would say that challenge should not be a “conscious” thing. I think that is where many of the modern dateing books go wrong. Because it is already natural for a woman to be selective about her spouse.

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      • But actually, I think there are some things women get told by their fathers about courting which are important, like my father always said, do not call a man, wait for him to call, and do not submit before marriage, and do not marry a man who does not work hard. Which is simple, and does not need whole book to explain. 🙂 .

        I did not take the “hard to get” thing in to account with my fiance, and he still proposed. He is always perfect gentleman, and came to see for 1 month for every day to talk to me for hours, with out even ask for my number. You can imagine, I was very frustrated. because I wanted him to take me out on a real date. So one night I was tired of it, and asked him why he never ask me for my number if he likes me. He said he cares for me and wants to take it slow. I said to him, it has been long and I will not wait long because it is like a game, and it is silly. He said I have your number, (from his mother!). I asked him why he did not call me and he said he would call me only if he did not know where to meet me every day. I was tired of this games, so I said okay, we will be only friends. And he said, I would ask you to come now to my home for coffee, but it is not clean. I said, I can clean it for you. 🙂 . (That may sound desperate?) But he had already bought me a beautiful necklace before this and STILL not asked for my number. I knew I was in love. He kissed my hand for the first time, and it was so romantic, one of the most beautiful things ever. The first time he kissed my hand, I knew I wanted to be his wife. It is too beautiful and complex a feeling to describe.

        I went to his garden, we drank beers, and listened to genesis tour, and we stayed up all night in his garden, tending to his flowers and then we went to watch the sunrise at the beach! We never spent day apart after. I have read dateing books, and really I did not use the advice. I just fell in love, and said to myself I want that man, I want to make him happy. I have fitness tested him, without understanding at the time. The time I completely knew he is for me, is when he met my father and they loved each other. Then I said, I do not need any girl game books, I need to be kind to him and make his life relaxing and happy.

        Sometimes I wonder if the girl game books have agenda to keep women single. I read one that said not to cook for a man, are you serious? One of the ways to a man’s heart is through his stomach. 😉 .

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      • It is sad that there are not more nice women like you out there…on which there is no need to use a lot of “game”

        Are you the Greek woman who used to post under the name embracingourfeminity ?

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      • Aww. That is such a sweet story! And I couldn’t agree with you more. Every time I cook well for my husband and he appreciates it, I feel as if I have accomplished something special. I feel that the simple act of cooking and serving food with love, makes my bond with him stronger. Even with all the success, he still enjoys a loving home cooked meal above all the fancy restaurant stuff. I am so glad my Mom taught me how to cook well and instilled pride in being a good cook into me. Now Food Network is one of my favorite television networks 🙂

        Hugs

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    • But of course you know there’s a whole body of “literature” out there (some of it written by men) explaining that men like a “challenge” and they won’t value a girl too easily won over. Just sayin’.

      How well have the broads who wrote The Rules done in the dating market? Not very well.

      Men may value a “challenge”, but only if the woman is hot. If the woman is not, and tries to be a challenge, the man won’t even notice.

      Men don’t value nice girls, but only if they’re plain janes. If she’s hot and nice, the men tend to get too eager too quickly.

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    • Amy,

      Which one are you on the photo?

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    • on July 29, 2014 at 5:54 am The Burninator

      There’s also a “whole body of literature”, and cultural influence, some of it even perpetrated by women, saying that women prefer nice guys over jerks.

      So much for “whole body of literature”.

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  5. That was one fucking disturbing episode of South Park.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 2:20 pm Zombie Shane

      Huh? Greatest South Park Evah! This, on the other hand, was when South Park jumpito’ed el sharko:

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  6. on July 28, 2014 at 1:33 pm The Spirit Within

    I used to like “challenging” women, but the novelty has worn off. I’ve changed my tune.

    Nice and feminine, for the win.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 6:24 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      “Challenging” is just a euphemism for ball-busting bitch.

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    • Nice and feminine, for the win.
      ========================

      This cannot be repeated enough. If a woman is nice and feminine and not a bitch, if she’s alone, she either (1) wants to be, or (2) is fugly, and in most cases where she says its #1, it’s really #2.

      À bientôt,

      Mistral

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  7. So did all this nonsense about equality reverse our roles? Because guys like nice girls, they mistakenly presume (and because they are told by society) girls like nice guys and act accordingly. Likewise women think guys like the same things they do and try to be dominant and aggressive women.

    Literally the mainstream (read Cathedral, feminists, liberals, neocons) sexual strategy is to attract your own sex and repel the opposite. No wonder there are so many gay people today.

    [CH: the human flaw of psychological projection has a lot to do with the confusion that reigns in the sexual market.]

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      • agreed, +1.
        i think standing up for your beliefs = ‘being a jerk’, and this is why it is attractive to women. a ‘jerk’ is just a modern name for a strong man.
        a nice man who will do anything for a woman would probably stab his best friend in the back, and run in fear from his enemies.
        good post.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:35 pm gunslingergregi

        yea I guarded a spot for a group of people from literally a 100k interlopers
        and the spot was there when the group I was holding it for came
        but then I left and the people around shit all over em cause they were like its ok no big deal
        fuck that guard the perimeter

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      • one thing I have learned at Citizen Renegade is that there is a very low bar for what is considered a ‘jerk’ these days. people are very sensitive. today’s jerk is yesteryear’s nice guy

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    • Also take into account something CH has mentioned before that sociopaths have low anxiety when they knowingly break laws/rules. Set your own path to be your own man and this all falls into place.

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  8. This is also why I never have a philosophical, political, or other theory based discussion with a woman. I’m not looking to debate or have some kind of verbal struggle with them, especially if I’m sleeping with them. If I want competition of any kind, I’ll go have that conversation with my peers (read: other men).

    Hence why I like a feminine woman that is pleasant, polite, and attentive. Just as !!SCIENCE!! predicts.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 2:15 pm Zombie Shane

      “Nice Girl” == FEMININE

      “Bad Boy” == MASCULINE

      That’s science for you, as translated into Standard English.

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 2:00 am DoucheBag DeLuxe

        I need some help regarding white buns and white ovens. I suppose we can agree on the fact that considering the current state of affairs white, cute and nice is not enough. Any man worth his grain of salt should optimize eugenic probabilities by baking in a smart oven. Smart people have smart kids, even when considering regression to the mean.

        So what type of smart woman am I looking at? PHD, MSc, … lawyers, doctors, … I mean I’d love to put it in a sweet little nurse but when it comes to brains they are not the sharpest.

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      • Try nurse practitioners. They have to fill in for doctors much of the time nowadays.

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 3:48 pm Zombie Shane

        DoucheBag DeLuxe, years and years ago, I was where you are, valueing IQ uber alles. But now my first and foremost demand is a kind warm gentle loving heart. Only when I am convinced that the spirituality is there do I then start worrying about smarts.

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 4:09 pm Zombie Shane

        Also, look for COMMON SENSE. Some chicks can have book smarts coming out of their ears, but have all the common sense of a patient in an insane asylum.

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 4:15 pm Zombie Shane

        Finally, as I was saying on another recent thread, genetic propensities can lie hidden in a family for generations before they explicityly reassert themselves [especially in the White race, with its nearly infinite genetic variation].

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 4:17 pm Zombie Shane

        So if her father was a smart guy, and if there are male smarts on her mother’s side [such as in her maternal grandfather], then even though she might not have had a powerhouse academic career herself, the chances are good that she will have plenty of very smart genes lying dormant in her.

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 4:24 pm Zombie Shane

        PS: And keep an eye out for quirky weird oddball characteristics [“good” quirky weird oddball, not “creepy” quirky weird oddball].

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 4:27 pm Zombie Shane

        For example, if all the other girls in her sorority drive BMWs, with “Yes We Can!” stickers on them, and cans of “Mace” in the glove compartment, but she drives a rusty old pickup truck, with a CSA battle flag sticker on it, and Colt 1911 in the glove compartment, then you know you she’s a keeper.

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 3:41 am DoucheBag DeLuxe

        @ Zombie: I read that bit about genetic diversity and agree with you on the shape of the racial bell curve (pointier blacks and larger SD in whites). Scholars such as Lynn (Richard) have shown this in their work.

        Another option is optimal eugenic hybridization: Persan, Ashkenazi or chinese. Now finding the right kind of woman (caring, nurturing, sweet and cute) is not going to be a walk in the park and my preference is my color + Ashkenazi and Persan women are quite close minded and have a high preference for their own kind.

        There is the IQ side of the question that should be considered after all the boxes have been ticked, then there is the religious one. If the 21st century is going to be islamic (I am in Brussels, which is believed to become an islamic city (majority of muslim voters) by 2025-50), marrying a Persan muslim might be another reason why this is a smart move to consider. It’s one thing to be brave and courageous, it’s another to not look at the cards and play dumb. There is no real white resistance and certainly not at the political level.

        “Muslims now make up one-quarter of the population of the capital of the enlightened Europe and they are asking to use the empty churches for Islamic prayers.
        Since 2008, the top seven baby boys’ names in Brussels were Mohammed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza.
        Mohammed is also the most popular name for baby boys in Belgium’s second-largest city, Antwerp, where an estimated 40% of elementary school children are Muslim.
        Antwerp is also home to Belgium’s first Islamic Sharia law court, which began operating in September.”

        I’ve been considering emigration (after finding a cute scandinavian) for a while now but have no idea where the fuck to go. The only country with a sensible agenda is Singapore. The West is dying, Africa is some fucked continent, Latin America has some whitness.

        Talking about Scandinavia, my mom’s friend daughter who works in Dubaï just got engaged to an Algerian guy. (she is Finnish).

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 5:52 am DoucheBag DeLuxe

        @ Zombie: I read that bit about genetic diversity and agree with you on the shape of the racial bell curve (pointier blacks and larger SD in whites). Scholars such as Lynn (Richard) have discussed this in their work.

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 5:52 am DoucheBag DeLuxe

        Another option is optimal eugenic hybridization: Persan, Ashkenazi or chinese. Now finding the right kind of woman (caring, nurturing, sweet and cute) is not going to be a walk in the park and my preference is my color + Ashkenazi and Persan women are quite close minded and have a high preference for their own kind.

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 5:55 am DoucheBag DeLuxe

        There is the IQ side of the question that should be considered after all the boxes have been ticked, then there is the religious one. If the 21st century is going to be islamic (I am in Brussels, which is believed to become an islamic city (majority of muslim voters) by 2025-50),

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      • …I am in Brussels, which is believed to become an islamic city (majority of muslim voters) by 2025-50…

        A tous les Belges,

        Je vous offre mes sinceres condoléances.

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 6:09 am DoucheBag DeLuxe

        I’ll post the rest in response to bluntobj. Look for my nickname.

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 9:50 am DoucheBag DeLuxe

        @ ZS follow up … marrying a Persan muslim might be another reason why this is a smart move to consider. It’s one thing to be brave and courageous, it’s another to not look at the cards and play dumb. There is no real white resistance and certainly not at the political level.

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      • fucking filter. I can’t post anymore. I’ll find you in some other thread.

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      • If the 21st century is going to be islamic (I am in Brussels, which is believed to become an islamic city (majority of muslim voters) by 2025-50), marrying a Persan muslim might be another reason why this is a smart move to consider.

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 11:31 am midnight toker

        @DoucheBag DeLuxe

        “I mean I’d love to put it in a sweet little nurse but when it comes to brains they are not the sharpest.”

        I’ve always heard that nursing school is tough. They can’t be that stupid

        [CH: they aren’t. i would put nurses in the 100-110 IQ range, and RNs higher than that. nursing home assistants are another matter. most of them are <90 IQ.]

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      • Follow up @ ZS:

        There is no real white resistance and certainly not at the political level.

        “Muslims now make up one-quarter of the population of the capital of the enlightened Europe and they are asking to use the empty churches for Islamic prayers.
        Since 2008, the top seven baby boys’ names in Brussels were Mohammed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza.
        Mohammed is also the most popular name for baby boys in Belgium’s second-largest city, Antwerp, where an estimated 40% of elementary school children are Muslim.
        Antwerp is also home to Belgium’s first Islamic Sharia law court, which began operating in September.”

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      • The same will happen here in maybe 20 or 50 years.

        That is sad. Sad for Belgium , sad for England, sad for all Western Nations that are going trough culture and race replacement.

        The Western World is being invaded and turned into a part of the Caliphate and we are slowly becoming Dhimmis .

        Putting a complete stop to immigration would not change a thing, it is too late, the population of Muslim will keep growing.

        I can not see how this occupation by Muslim invaders can be reversed and Western Civilization saved other than trough a sort of war, or maybe an epidemic that would decimate certain population more than others.

        The white liberals who handed our civilization to all those non-Europeans are traitors.

        Those white liberals have betrayed their people, their culture, their civilization, their race.

        They are the main reason the West is in decline and yet they are chanting “faster! faster!”

        White liberals are traitors and I am being polite.

        Of course not all liberals are white, but most are traitors that are happy to see the West having its culture and race go trough imposed replacement.

        Speaking of traitors who feel NO love for whites/Europeans/Western Civilization/Christians, Obama has recently thanked Muslims for making the USA a better place, a better democracy ( no this is not a joke ) , and this while ISIS is burning Churches in the Middle East and murdering thousands of innocents and forcing women to live like cattle.

        Yes Obama actually thanks Muslims for their contribution and for them : ” Being the very fabric of our nation”

        The founding fathers must be not only spinning in their grave but trying to come out of there and go get Obama and shut him up for good.

        Traitors is too nice a word for such liberals.

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/28/Obama-Celebrates-Muslim-Contributions-to-the-USA

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      • Follow up @ ZS:

        I’ve been considering emigration (after finding a cute scandinavian) for a while now but have no idea where the fuck to go. The only country with a sensible agenda is Singapore. The West is dying, Africa is some fucked up continent, Latin America has some whitness, but Singapore and SE Asia is full of crazy rats running behind money.

        Talking about Scandinavia, my mom’s friend daughter who works in Dubaï just got engaged to an Algerian guy. Probably didn’t do it just out of love, since showing allegiance to the muslim culture should give her a better shot at making a carreer over there.

        Have no idea where to go from here.

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      • @ Canadian Friend.

        Thanks bud.

        Canada could be an option but women are way americanized and the economy is West dependent. What’s your opinion?

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      • “I’ve always heard that nursing school is tough. They can’t be that stupid”

        they aren’t all stupid but they aren’t all smart either. i’m sure there are smart ones out there who have chosen that occupation because of the good pay and hours but i haven’t met a lot of them. not saying that’s a bad thing. a girl who wants to be in a caregiving type career who isn’t a brainiac is probably preferred anyway.

        but nursing school isn’t as hard as most people think. who goes to nursing school the most? women. i’ll bet if more men or very intelligent women were in nursing school we wouldn’t be hearing how tough it is.

        we hear all the time that nurses are as smart as doctors. that’s BS. you only need an associates degree to be an RN. that’s only two years of taking some math and sciences classes and some physiology and biology. but it isn’t high level stuff. it’s not even comparable to what an engineer or a doctor would have to take and they only have two years of it.

        nursing school is hard for nursing students because, for the most part, they aren’t the smart people. you hear the same thing from dental assistants and hygienists. they all talk about how hard the school is. hard to them doesn’t mean hard to everyone else. it’s all relative.

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      • i met a woman from france who spoke english. nicest cutest most feminie gurl ever. gotta get em young… less schooling the better.

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    • The most pointless form of this is when they want to argue about something and you actually do it seriously and you win. No pussy for you, beta. (Getting into these sorts of “rational” discussions is really a typical beta tell.)

      The best approach is to treat it as a shit test. Having a rationalistic argument is not the right approach, making her feel what you want her to feel is the goal. But if it over time basically shows she’s seriously into picking pointless fights, well, that’s good to know too. If you’re not into the same, prepare to exit at your own pace. If you need a slogan, tell her you think you’re not compatible. It might then even feel liberating to have an argument or two where you don’t need to hold back.

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      • PS. Arguing to win with a woman in a non-professional setting (i.e., no presence of white knights) can even be a bit amusing, once you realize you no longer need to obey any male rules of being reasonable or making sense. Scoff at her lack of logic, then indirectly attack the way she looks or dresses (“people who pay money for ripped jeans are truly stupid, oh I’m sorry, I didn’t mean you of course”), then go back to citing sources and disqualifying her arguments in an annoyingly superior male way. If she seems to be winning, god forfend, just change the subject and make a personal attack. If she gets emotional, attack that or solicitously/sneeringly ask if she needs a few minutes to collect herself. If she starts recruiting WK followers, point out she’s just angry because she’s losing an argument and steer the WKs into pure masculine logical argument. Act injured to the WK audience when she doesn’t obey the rules. Or why not introduce a bit of drama if you need to, just make up some lie that’s too good to be true and say it should be obvious you were joking if called on it. You can really employ whatever tactics you like to crush her spirits and send her off reeling.

        She may then of course try to paint you as a bully behind your back. Tell them she attacked your position on X out of the blue, that you won the subsequent discussion, and that she’s just being a sore loser (or worse). Yes, it’s sad really and she should get help. Et cetera.

        It is again, if you will, akin to handling a shit test. You’re in this case steering her emotions into something that will cause her to blow up and run away.

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  9. Not gonna disagree on your fundamental theory, Heartiste. I only want to add that *most* women prefer jerks, and *most* men prefer nice girls.

    [CH: i never claimed these subtle preferences were universal.]

    Everybody knows somebody who is the exception to the generality.

    [exceptions prove the rule.]

    I think that it is important for people to understand that men and women are, at the aggregate level, different. It is also important to understand that bellcurves have tails. “Blue pill” people often don’t understand the former, and “red pill” people often don’t understand the latter.

    [strawman. i don’t get the sense reading realtalkers that they by and large don’t get the concept of rules and exceptions.]

    So the “blue pill” guy doesn’t understand why girls reject him more often than not, and the “red pill” guy doesn’t understand why no one, not even the most studly of alphas, can bat 1.000

    [there isn’t a PUA alive who claims that alphas will bat a thousand.]

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    • on August 1, 2014 at 9:01 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I don’t know a single hbd or red pill dude(meh, silly labels) that don’t understand that statistical distributions have tails. Can you name a few of them?

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  10. Whorefinder weeps because no woman has ever preferred him.

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  11. speaking of jerks, there’s some interesting text game revealed in the renisha mcbride/wafer trail. She’s the black woman who was drunk and acting crazy and got shot by a homeowner near Detroit. he’s on trial for murder now. The prosecution just went through her text messages to/from a male “friend”. They’re hilarious:

    7:41 pm, McBride texted: “i wanna see you too”
    7:42 pm, Bynes texted “Bring dat ass to me”
    10:12 Bynes texted “what happened to u bringing yo ass to me”

    another budding “bring da movies” man! check out Legal insurrection website for the whole story.

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  12. But don’t guys like crazy chicks because they seem wild in bed?

    [CH: any girl sufficiently aroused will be wild in bed, or at least trainable.]

    Aloof is good in men up to a point.

    [“up to a point” is not the correct clause. “in measured doses” is better.]

    Guys that seem to salivate for sex as soon as you meet them seem subhuman.

    [all men salivate for sex when they see hot chicks. most are just very good at concealing the drool.]

    Lately my problem is not nice guys. It’s guys that are so generally aggressive that it freaks me out. Guys that have super high pressure jobs in finance and similar industries who are clawing to be top of the game. They are attractive in one way but freakish in another. Like its too much

    [aggressive != carelessly jerky.]

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  13. After I saw that there was an actual scientific study done, I got the name of the lead author and went to the university library, where their network has access to all the social science journals, to download it. Basically, men like responsiveness and women at best don’t value male responsiveness as much and at worst find it unattractive in initial impressions of a male. The researchers are not sure why that is but it may be that women are skeptical of men who are responsive because they are not trustworthy or perhaps desperate.

    This is really interesting, it is solid proof of a pattern in female psychology. The experiment was in a controlled setting and even better, was performed on college students. Even the responses that were created were sort of callous.

    I would rehash the result as meaning that you are not likely to gain anything from being overly concerned with or endearing toward a woman you have just met. So the problem that arises is if you approach a woman which I think must display some sort of responsiveness, you then have to act ‘non-responsive’ which seems contradictory. In the study the context was that these men and women interacted out of necessity. Also, I would point out that since men find it attractive when women are responsive to them, in theory, women could “game” men by provoking such attractions.

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  14. A lot of the men who claim they like ‘bitchy’ women actually prefer a trait of females that can be construed as ‘bitchy.’ Namely – pickiness. In other words, guys prefer chicks who don’t spread for just any dude.

    A picky girl doesn’t equate to a bitch – but it’s an easy descriptor to (mis)use.

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  15. I discuss this with my best friend all the time. We realized our best success with chics always comes when we are attracted to a chic but DIStracted by our hobbies or other interests. Accidental aloofness. Drives the chic nuts. Unless she’s not intrigued by you already, in which case you have a little work to do. I understand that one won’t find themselves in a best case scenario all the time. Situational awareness is key.

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  16. 1) Girl becomes interested in man
    2) Girl gets man’s attention
    3) Girl has encounter with man
    4) Man starts orbiting
    5) Girl starts losing interest
    6) Girl’s disinterest bores man and he stops orbiting
    7) Girl regains interest
    8) Go back to 3, with successive encounters becoming more and more intimate

    Basically, a sine wave with increasing amplitude over time. Or, putting it another way, the woman is the cosine and the man the sine.

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  17. I think people are confused on men liking bitchiness for two reasons:

    1) They don’t understand the difference between bitchy, sassy, and saucy.

    2) And they see the guys who put up with ill-tempered women because they look halfway decent.

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    • Indeed. So many people mistake sarcasm counts as witty repartee. It does not. The constant negativity is so tiring, when a simply playful exchange would be like manna from heaven.

      To wit, I was chatting up a HP9.5 (or whatever. She was hot like “inside of the sun” hot. And not a tiresome bitch. Why? She was foreign, of course. Du-uh.) So, she is self-aware about her hawtness, but not arrogant. I drop a neg on her about she’s perfect…except for her crazy eyebrows and she leans in and says, “My eyebrows are the most perfect part of my body!” I genuinely chuckled. 😉

      À bientôt,

      Mistral

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  18. Was pounding the ole wifey like a 2-bit whore last night. Finished up, cleaned up, returned to bed and the bitch had her back to me!

    Whoa there woman, I grabbed her by the hip bone and made her flip over to face me proper. She spent the rest of the night with her right thigh pressing against my cock.

    Proper etiquette after a full on pounding if you ask me!

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  19. I guess not kissing the girl at the end of the date would be a responsive gesture on the part of the guy because he is anticipating her negative reaction to a bold move by him, rather than assuming the sale.

    A spergy question and I’m sure there is no contradiction between ABE (or making your sexual intentions known) and being overly responsive.

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  20. on July 28, 2014 at 3:46 pm Reservoir Tip

    The female reception of this piece, even here at CH, has been incredibly elementary.

    I imagine the beta man-boob response is no different.

    Reminds me of a funny story, actually.

    Recently I was on Facebook (I know I shouldn’t have one, but Tinder) and a girl friend of mine asked via status update whether she should get a pixie cut or grow her hair out.

    I told her, “pixie cut and I’m personally kicking your ass.”

    To which her feminist friends and a former friend of mine turned hardcore cultural Marxist manboob replied, “omg Reservoir Tip’s opinion is stupid. Why are you even concerned about societal standards of beauty?” (LOL)

    Then the manboob, who I assume is somewhat into the girl, posts something for the beta hall of fame.

    “I wrote you a java script to help you figure out which style is going to work best for you” and of course, he posts the script.

    As if she has any idea what the hell to do with it. Neutered man-booby goonery at its finest. I could practically feel his anticipation for her thanks and whatever attention she would afford him.

    “Oh I know how to win her over! I’ll write her some java script! That’ll get her attention!”

    “I’LL WRITE HER SOME JAVA SCRIPT!”

    “JAVA SCRIPT”

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 4:03 pm Ted Cunterblast

      Manboob hopes to cash in his Javascript for some pussy chips.

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    • Can we call it a vayjay script?

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 5:10 pm oralcummings

      Ironically it was the guy who invented Java tjhat made a donation to the No Gay Marriage thing and got kicked the fuck out his own company in a hail of pussy-faggot-manboob-beta horseshit about “We dont allow intolerance here…”

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    • Recently I was on Facebook (I know I shouldn’t have one, but Tinder)

      Facebook can tell you which girls are stalking you and which aren’t, so it does have its uses.

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    • LOZOZLZOZLZOL… that “write her a Java Script” just HAS to become a new meme, here at the chateau.

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  21. I hadn’t thought of this until the other day. I got a surprise text from my crazy ex gf….two days after my birthday at 3am she wrote: “belated happy birthday to you” with a cute text of a happy birthday.

    She must have seen a bunch of photos of me on FB celebrating with a bunch of people she knew. She’d blown off coming to the events marking my birthday.

    I didn’t reply but it was validation for this. We hadnt’ spoken for 6 weeks and after that I’d told off the dude she’s seeing for being a dick at a party I organized. Yet here she is reaching out to a “jerk”.

    I didn’t reply because i’d rather be reaching out to girls who deserve my game.

    Only betas reach out to bitches who put them down.

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  22. Off topic, but if this guy (and his wife/gf) were American, the plank of wood would be a huge tub o’ lard:

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    • holy shit. That commercial just insulted 99% of the women over there in Asia. Outstanding.

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 7:08 am Buns n Buns

        East Asia, mebbe,,, The rest of that bigass continent has womyn with some of the juiciest boobies on the planet.

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  23. What do men want? A woman that’s reasonably attractive and fun to be with. I’m pushing 70 yrs old and that basic tenet hasn’t changed. What is reasonably attractive? Not a beauty queen but not someone you are ashamed to be with in public. And this works both ways.

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  24. on July 28, 2014 at 4:10 pm Emma the Emo

    Being a nice girl really pays 🙂

    Although I did notice that some guys fall for girls with BPD, bipolar disorder and similar things. Then they say they had the best sex ever with these crazy girls, although they also made their life hell. And they seem to want to save these girls from themselves. Luckily, a lot of men don’t have this codependent disorder or whatever it is.

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    • Then they say they had the best sex ever with these crazy girls, although they also made their life hell.
      =================================

      That’s often quite true, but if the pussy is INSANE, almost always, the girl it’s attached to is also. Find me a girl with big-time daddy issues, and I will show you a girl who is a wildcat in the sack.

      While it’s okay to visit Crazy, it’s not okay to move there, like Captain Saveahoe would. That’s just, well, crazy.

      À bientôt,

      Mistral

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    • They are men with no options. There is no competition between a BPD and a nice girl.

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      • “And they seem to want to save these girls from themselves.”

        i think it’s this more this than the no options angle. it’s white knighting. some guys stay stuck in that pattern for years. i did. probably drawn to that type of girl because my mother was a basket case.

        it’s sort of an ego boost to feel needed that much and that you are the only man that can save her. but we can’t fix them and it’s not our responsibility to fix them or take care of their kids or whatever. you can end up trapped and used by these girls who are essentially broken beyond repair. you give up your own happiness for them and it’s hell.

        it’s an awful realization when you step back one day and see how much time you’ve wasted with girls like that when there are girls that aren’t that way. i didn’t even know nice normal girls existed. i assumed they were all nut jobs so i treated every girl the same. i’ve lost more than a few good ones along the way because of that.

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      • on August 1, 2014 at 9:07 am Pijama Wearing Ninja


        I think that has some truth value. At least the ‘nice girl’ is 100% like my ex-girlfriend and she thought she’s dirty because of it too. rofl

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    • on August 1, 2014 at 9:09 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I have a couple of friends who got proposed to by American men they never met, let alone have sex with and I’m talking about men who did get laid with other girls simply because they are feminine and not openly slutty. So yes, nice pays. What pays the most though is being able to sell nice, while being a cunt. 😛

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  25. or: men want women that are demure, women prefer men who would never dream of deferring

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  26. OT:

    Lady friend is taking a bartending job once a week at a real shithole….not sure sure how to proceed. Dump before I get shit on? Shame cause she’s pretty cool, but we all know the scene….

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 4:54 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Keep fucking her and use her as a pivot to shamelessly game the female bartenders.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 6:28 pm Zombie Shane

      YOU: Baby, I don’t want you working in that dive bar shit hole with all those thugs.

      SHE: Oh really? Well are you going to support then, Mr Deep Pockets?

      YOU: Uh, uhh, uhhh…

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 6:34 pm Zombie Shane

        = “to support ME then”

        Point being that there comes a time when you have to decide whether to up the ante, and force a win, or to push back from the table, walk away, and call it quits.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 6:38 pm Zombie Shane

        Can you see her being the mother of your children?

        Can you see yourself, twenty years from now, sitting alone at a bar, sipping on a scotch, and you’re all depressed and dejected and miserable, and you’re reminiscing wistfully on her as The One who got away?

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  27. Dames are weird. They are also easily brainwashed. That is why so much advertising is aimed at dames. Dames operate at an emotional level and seldom apply logical or rational thinking to their lives. Dames are good for the fun their bodies offer and they do have a vital role in species continuation but they have many limitations in regards to other life aspects.

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    • great post but a clarification…

      the aren’t weird, merely predictable in their jaboonery.

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    • Knock off that “dames” stuff… it’s sexist and the broads hate it.

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    • on August 1, 2014 at 9:11 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I don’t see why you guys have a problem with women being easily brainwashed. I think this is a feature, not a bug. Much like cats being aloof assholes is what makes them amusing pets. Features, not bugs.

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  28. on July 28, 2014 at 4:50 pm two and two

    Such a bogus study. There is no way women like jerks. I can say that from my experience they indeed do LOVE nice guys who act in a good manner. Guys who can show their affection and care, respect and express their feelings properly.
    My wife and I we always talk about this, and we always say what we feel, I’m actually very glad she made me feel very safe by saying she would like to know more about what I feel and now I’m not afraid to talk about personal stuff with her. (another reason why women like good guys).
    So I just think everyone should just talk with their gal about their affection and actually express themselves.

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    • Troll? No options? Only been with one woman? Something odd about you. If you like discussing feelings with your wife, good for you. I will continue to live in reality.

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:46 pm two and two

        I think its all about love and what you make out of it. We were together for a long time now and now I know for sure we can overcome anything through conversation. This is why this study cannot be considered meaningful in any way because people never actually cared for each other.

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    • How long have you two been together?

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:49 pm two and two

        We know each other since childhood.

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      • on August 1, 2014 at 9:13 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        two and two, the reason why this doesn’t apply to you is because you are probably her first lover and her is your first lover and you’ve been together before your personalities were molded. Due to growing up while together, your personalities can match like that. It’s my hypothesis for why high-school sweethearts look so in love with each other even after years of being together.

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    • yer wifes suckin off the mailman while you work. go suck down some more blue pills faggot

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      • on July 28, 2014 at 5:55 pm two and two

        I’m sorry but I don’t think you realize how deep of a connection we have together. Its weird, but sometimes we can even guess what we think. Although I don’t blame you, you are probably a good guy who just never had anyone to care for. Be nice to women and they will do the same to you.

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      • Oh, this guy’s good.

        (((golf clap)))

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    • ESL candidate #1 for July 28th.

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    • You’re either 1) tall, good-looking, and naturally alpha, or 2) married to a fat cow.

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    • Some women do but they low quality trash.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 6:20 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      The exception does not make the rule.

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    • ROTFLMAO

      so funny

      u 4 reel?

      Ha hahahaha haaaa.

      So, soo delicious …

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    • Never tell your woman shit about you…fucking wuss-bag..

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      • Well I understand that it might not always be comfortable, especially if you have a lot to hide, but as they say you can’t make an omlette without breaking eggs, right? You are the man so take responsibility and start expressing yourself.

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    • See guys?
      JavaScript game really does work

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 6:32 am The Burninator

        We should set up a “Learn JavaScript Game In 21 Days” book publishing deal. The first program they learn is “Hello Baby!”.

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    • on July 29, 2014 at 6:57 am Charlie Don't Surf

      Yours is the fate of the suffering beta …
      Which looks something like this.

      https://twitter.com/Lonely_Dad

      You’ve been warned.

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  29. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2708357/Forget-foreplay-The-MIND-key-female-orgasm.html

    What do you think this translates to in hard talk?

    Women can’t orgasm (or truly enjoy sex) with most men due to lack of socio-psychological fulfilment and (thus) perceived low status of her partner.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 5:03 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Look into “deep conversion”. You’ll be happy you did.

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      • Just had a look, it’s not something I haven’t noticed before but that’s a nice name for the concept.
        It is one of the most beautiful things of the human experience.
        Unfortunately, I would say that most of the time it happens with psychopaths who love the idea of a psychic control over their prey.

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      • “Unfortunately, I would say that most of the time it happens with psychopaths who love the idea of a psychic control over their prey.”

        as opposed to…….getting your ass handed to you by a TASK (typical American Skeez)?

        fyi, every female you meet is 20 times more psychopathic then you can even comprehend. stop saying it like its a bad thing.

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      • @Tilikum


        As opposed to a genuine dynamic of loving authority over glad-hearted submission. Not saying it’s likely but it can, does and should happen.

        But I knew that those with darker souls would have a bone to pick with my implied criticism of psychopathy. I think you need to check the meaning of psychopathy again, nothing wrong with military calculation in social functions, business or pleasure, but for malicious purposes that’s a bit, well… lame.

        You’re foolish to think most women are intelligent enough to be psychopathic, most are just reckless with a weaker sense of justice. But as observers women do have a better sense of the male sexual market.

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 7:01 am Buns n Buns

        Searched for it.. Krauser seems to have developed pangs of conscience over it… Any other credible links that we can look up?

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  30. call her your barmaid.

    my ex/fb/gf/bucket o’ cum was one at the club i bounce and at and a high end chain steakhouse.

    she’s out of the klub though eating hrs at the chain.

    do not ask her about work – keep dominant – do not let up.

    like swag said, if you make appearances, flirt with her co-workers.

    this is a test you now have to view her true colours.

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  31. gotta date mormon girls….

    trust me….

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  32. Been reading Swinggcat’s ebook on Prizing. This goes along with the idea that you have to set the frame early on and throughout your entire relationship that you are the Prize–that she is chasing you; not that you are chasing her.

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  33. most guys assume (wrongly and via projecting their male experience) that bitchy equals smart because nice guys are normally pretty stupid where assholes are generally smarter (and act accordingly….because they can).

    same shit different set of behaviors i suppose?!

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 6:10 pm Zombie Shane

      > “assholes are generally smarter (and act accordingly….because they can)”

      Talmudikim, don’t project your jewishness on all of us goyische-kopf shegetzen.

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      • Studies have been done on this. Introverts are “smarter” but I think he means that jerks have more social intelligence.

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      • Love That Shane! He can sniff out the foetor judaicus a league off.

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      • not Jewwy at all but I am curious…..is that a bad thing? does anybody really care anymore? Jews breaking into your house or stealing your car stereos are they? cause in my hood it’s nogs and messicans.

        what kind of jews do you have in your neighborhood worse than that lol

        i’m always curious about folks with your certain phobias.

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    • Players are not real assholes in that sense. They actually have very low self worth and use sluts to fill that void.

      [CH: everything you’re claiming is utter horseshit. and i have the studies to prove it to you. so why are you here? did a player steal the love of your life?]

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      • i’m sure CH will be along shortly to unfuck you but I will at least say that a high value guy (your player) is banging high value girls after about a year of figuring out what works 😉

        few sluts…thats the wage of a higher beta or very low alphas (heavy tatts, extra-muscular) 🙂

        (and Zombie wept)

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      • This stark character is a loser. i have no idea why he’s littering the boards here.

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      • High value girls are disgusted by promiscuity.

        [CH: wishful thinking is no way to go through life son.]

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      • Beta wishful thinking. Real alphas (and all men really) deeply desire sexual variety. The alphas are generally the ones who can go out and get it.

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      • Stark – high value women think they are disgusted by promiscuity, until they meet a high value guy who blows their mind… then they have sex on the first date. You are just not that guy yet. stay and learn, there is hope for you, if you have a ball sack still.

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      • High value girls are disgusted by promiscuity.

        On the contrary – they will “act” like it, but behind closed doors, or when no one is taking videos of them, they will prove you wrong. Of course, they always reserve the right to yell “rape” and will if you “out” her. But make no mistake – the “hotter” the woman, the MORE she wants to use it… I see it every weekend when I’m playing in a band. That is why I never gave up playing – even though it eats up a HUGE amount of my time – it provides me with access to amazingly attractive women that I would have to really work for otherwise. And I’m sure they are disgusted by what they enjoyed the night before…

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  34. “Mother”
    By Pink Floyd

    Mother do you think they’ll drop the bomb
    Mother do you think they’ll like the song
    Mother do you think they’ll try to break my balls
    Ooooh aah, Mother should I build a wall
    Mother should I run for president
    Mother should I trust the government
    Mother will they put me in the firing line
    Ooooh aah, is it just a waste of time
    Hush now baby, baby don’t you cry
    Mama’s gonna make all of your
    Nightmares come true
    Mama’s gonna put all of her fears into you
    Mama’s gonna keep you right here
    Under her wing
    she won’t let you fly but she might let you sing
    Mama will keep baby cosy and warm
    Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
    Of course Mama’s gonna help build the wall

    Mother do think she’s good enough for me
    Mother do think she’s dangerous to me
    Mother will she tear your little boy apart
    Oooh aah, mother will she break my heart
    Hush now baby, baby don’t you cry
    Mama’s gonna check out all your girl friends for you
    Mama won’t let anyone dirty get through
    Mama’s gonna wait up till you get in
    Mama will always find out where
    You’ve been
    Mamma’s gonna keep baby healthy and clean
    Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
    You’ll always be a baby to me
    Mother, did it need to be so high.

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  35. Sounds about right. Chicks need to get that caveman sperm.

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  36. on July 28, 2014 at 6:11 pm Capt. Queeg

    Your interpretation of scientific data leaves a ton to be desired.

    [CH: Allow me to translate Mrs. Queef’s bitch:

    “These study results as passed along by CH really rub my chafed labia raw.”]

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  37. on July 28, 2014 at 6:20 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    I wonder how many billions have dollars have been spent over the years proving such fundamental truths about men and women.

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  38. on July 28, 2014 at 7:09 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

    newsflash: Jesse Jackson announces his next extortion/shakedown target:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/07/28/jesse-jackson-seeks-eeoc-scrutiny-of-tech-industry/13270991/

    PS: i do not take it as a given that Democrat politicians will act in lockstep to help out Jesse here at the expense of donors in Silicon Valley. After all, a Redpill law applies: They don’t desperately need the (oh maybe it’s) 5% of the electorate he controls.

    Whereas, he has no real options outside of the Cathedral Democrat tent

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    • unfortunately,

      given your prior postings, I doubt that your gross “the effect is the cause” mistake is accidental.

      … a proud and productive race, now cowed into servile service to the neo-heathen NWO.

      … disgraceful.

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      • … U.S. civil rights leader Jesse Jackson called on the Obama administration Monday to scrutinize the tech industry’s lack of diversity….

        It is not the tech industry that has a lack of diversity, it is the black race that has a lack of people that have what it takes to do high tech stuff.

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      • Or…

        It is not professional basketball that has a lack of midgets, it is midget that have a lack of height.

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  39. Most of the worthwhile women now alive are green-eyed Kurdish semi-virgins. Guys, I am too lazy to make this stuff up.
    Kurdistan is the most prosperous and stable place on Earth… and the least diverse; discuss.

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  40. Women love hot guys. Who can afford to be jerks.
    Men love hot girls. Who can afford to be bitches.
    Dee end.

    [CH: no. you’re wrong. here’s dee end:
    women love jerks.
    men love hotties.
    hope this helps.]

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    • Men love hotties. Women love high value males, who are often jerks because they can afford to be.

      I think if a man is really high value he might actually lose points for being a jerk — shows a lack of social grace, since he is so indisputably dominant already.

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  41. CANCEL THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM,

    BECAUSE LOUSY IS RELATIVE!
    BECAUSE MORAL INVERSION IS STILL MORALITY!!
    BECAUSE THE POLITICS OF SCHOOL LUNCHES TEND TO EXACSERBATE HISTORICAL GRIEVANCES
    BECAUSE THE ELITE MAY HAVE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THOSE PEOPLE ONE DAY.
    BECAUSE WE AGREE THAT SOCIETY SHOULD MAKE EFFORTS TO “FILL EVERY SIPPY” THE ISSUE IS WHO IS SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR WHOSE “SIPPY CUP” AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE.
    BECAUSE WOMEN WILL STILL BE ALLOWED TO USE MORAL BLACKMAIL.
    BECAUSE I CAN MAKE A FORTUNE SELLING CHEAPER LUNCHES TO PARENTS IN THE FREE MARKET.
    BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVERAL LOST GENERATIONS ANYWAYS!
    BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE OBESE RELATIVELY SPEAKING.
    BECAUSE MY KIDS ARE OUT OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM AND I PAID ENOUGH ALREADY.
    BECAUSE GOVERNMENT HELP NEVER SEEMS TO GET TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
    BECAUSE BAD INCENTIVES TEND TO GENERATE BAD BEHAVIOR AND THAT GOES FROM THE TOP ON DOWN.
    BECAUSE SOCIAL DEMOCRACY IS A SOCIAL ORGANISM THAT REPRESENTS A BADLY KEPT ZOO THAT IS RUN BY PEOPLE WHO RE-WRITE ITS OWN DEFAULTED MORTGAGE.
    BECAUSE THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT HAS TAKEN UPON ITSELF THE RIGHT TO DESTROY THE “BARRIERS” THAT HAD EXISTED BEFORE “PRIVATE PROPERTY”, “LIBERTY OF CONTRACT” AND “FREEDOM OF ASSOCATION” WHILE ERECTING NEW BARRIERS: “DISPARATE IMPACT”, “STUDENT LOAN DEBT” AND “INTERGENERATIONAL SOCIAL DEBT PONZI SCHEME OVERHANG”.
    BECAUSE WHAT QUALIFIES AS A SOCIAL PROBLEM IS LARGELY A MATTER OF TASTE
    BECAUSE SOME OF THE CHILDREN WILL GROW UP TO HATE THEIR PARENTS NO MATTER WHAT SOCIETY DOES FOR THEM.
    YES CANCEL THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM FOR THE CHILDREN OF COURSE!
    YES CANCEL THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM FOR THE CHILDREN FOREVER!

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  42. This is off topic, but I’ve been gnawing on it for some time now:

    Is tinder a good thing to get involved with?

    I know a decent amount of people where I live and am relatively young, so it would have effects reputation-wise or whatever. But I would have connects with younger girls. The thing is I can already bang 7s and lower usually so I’m looking for 8-10s (as is every guy). But wanted some feedback is it smart doing online dating

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  43. [Reverend Jackson]

    “If men are jerks….it’s ’cause it works!”

    [/Reverend Jackson]

    À bientôt,

    Mistral

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  44. Weekend FR–

    Lots of insight from the weekend. Doing much better 🙂 Still FAR from where I want to be, but getting there.

    Friday:

    We head out to the first club of the night and I’m stifled again. My wings are already in set with girls. I’m just like shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. I could easily join the group GingerWing is in (six chicks), but I keep thinking I’ll ruin it for him with my early game weirdness. So I decide to wander for a bit… approach one older lady, she’s weirded out… I’m like, yay first approach… then I tell Ya’s story to this drunk dude… it goes okay.

    I keep talking to him about approaching girls, I end up not doing it. I stay and chat with this dude. Then I decide to get one of these other dudes to help me approach. I approach second set, goes nowhere. I approach girl dancing in another group, it goes nowhere. We finally leave and we head to another club.

    Nothing’s really opening for me. The AlphaWing says something that ultimately changes the way I view the entire night:

    ‘You need to give the girls something to be attracted to. It’s not like saying “you’re cute, etc.” is bad, it’s just not good either. It’s neutral. There’s no charge to it. If you’re trying to not step on anyone’s tows, you’re playing the part of the female. You need to get her to react to you. You are the Yin and she is the Yang. A woman follows, a man leads.”

    I open two set with of chicks:

    Me: Let’s dance (me moving to grab her hands).
    HB8: Um nah, I don’t dance.
    Me: It’s fine, I’ll teach you.
    Guy tries to hit on her while this happens. They ignore him. I give them knowing looks.
    Me: Weird hey?
    The look at me as if waiting for me to say something else. Then I think “oh shit, they want to hear me talk?” and then I lose the set/eject.

    AlphaWing then tells me to go into mixed sets. I go in half-hearted at first, but then over time I’m grabbing girls from dudes. It’s going really well:

    Me: Hey, what’s up.
    HB6: Hey (I cut through the guys as she says this)
    Me: You’re Indian.
    HB6: (Shakes head)
    Me: Pakistani
    HB6: Gasp (high fives me)
    Me: I don’t wanna get too close tho you might blow me up.
    HB6: Jaw drops (lols) What’s your name?
    Me: Hunter. And now we dance!
    I carry her Tyler style.
    Indian guy tries and stops me
    Me: Don’t worry, we’re just friends.
    (I let her go and decide I’ll come back to her).

    I approach this other girl and she’s into me. Cold reads, stuff like that…

    While writing this I realize these girls might have been drunk. Maybe not wasted, but definitely seemed a little too receptive. Almost pull Pakistani girl on the reapproach but she gives me shit test as we walk out.

    HB6: How old are you?
    Me: 23
    HB6: … You’re WAY TOO YOUNG. Wayyyyy too young. (walks away)
    Me: Wait!

    Ughh, so yeah, should’ve flipped the script (eww, how old are you?)

    There’s no deep connection in any of these sets. AlphaWing approaches another girl… she hooks. Blah, nothing else new there. Mexican girl 3-set. AlphaWing starts hitting on one, AsianWing (other dude/Julien RSD clone) hits on the other, last girl sees the other two getting hit on and comes up to me and starts hitting on me.

    No deep rapport in any of these. How do you transition to deep rapport??? I’m thinking it must be DHVing and then going into a deep rapport question.

    Saturday:

    I approach first set London HB6.5. Says she’s hungover, wants to get coffee. I do some attraction shit by calling her racist and then pull her to Starbucks. This turns out to be a instadate. Convo gets boring, I’m thinking I’m doing comfort but the convo doesn’t seem interesting until I ask her whether she would have a cucumber or a football up her butthole. She lols and says cucumber. I say, you like that huh? More small talk.

    Basically this is her last day in town, ended up inviting her out. Spent whole night out with her. She didn’t reciprocate any touching. I tried touching her several times. Refused everytime. Honestly, I didn’t really steer the convo into a sexual place. That was what I realized after she took a cab home at the end of the night. First I just thought she was boring, but really I think it was the fact that she made a sexual joke and acted like I was uncomfortable with it. I then resumed the boring comfort convo thinking I was getting into deep rapport. Spent 3 hours with her talking… jeez. She also lived three blocks away from the clubs. I’m guessing YaReally would say that I should’ve led the convo in a sexual direction.

    Funnily enough I did it with this other girl from Daygame who had a bf. She gave me the wrong number (honestly a shame, SO would’ve banged her), but anyway, here’s the convo.

    This conversation was probably the best of the weekend because this girl had a boyfriend, was not interested (was walking away) and then did not leave and was actually interested in me.

    (This is right after convo with LondonHB6):

    Me: Hey, are you racist?
    HB7: What?
    Me: Just kidding. Thought I’d stop you.
    HB7: Oh okay.
    Me: You have this nerdish face.
    HB7: Oh really?
    Me: Yeah, you cosplay?
    HB7: What’s that?
    Me: It’s when you dress up as anime characters. I’m too nerdy for you.
    HB7: Oh okay lol
    Me: Are you a Democrat?
    HB7: Why do you say that?
    Me: Doesn’t matter I’m a conservative. I don’t believe in giving girls rights. I’d put you in a cellar and only pass you food underneath the bars.
    HB7: Lol and I’d just grasp at the tray trying to get at it.
    She was laughing a lot so she stayed.
    Me: We should get coffee sometime.
    HB7: I have a boyfriend.
    Me: So, I have a girlfriend.
    HB7: Lol
    Me: What you got there (pointing to her bag)?
    HB7: A bra from Victoria Secret.
    Me: You’re not going to tell me how big they are?
    HB7: Lol no
    Me: I’ll tell you how big I am (I look down)… 10, 11 inches.
    HB7: lol
    Me: I’m talking about my shoes. You thought I would tell you my dick size? Nope lol
    HB7: lol
    Me: Don’t worry, it’s big.
    HB7: (she’s like staring into my eyes now) Where are you from?
    Small talk from here. She does marketing. Blah. Wasted a perfectly good opportunity to do deep rapport here JEEEZ WHY DO I KEEP FORGETTING
    Me: (so I run out of stuff to say… lol) Let’s get coffee right now (I grab her hand)
    HB7: Wait no, they’re having a sale on X and today’s the last day.
    Me: Alright fine. Lol this has been fun. You’re really funny! I’ll get your number and we’ll get coffee… as friends.

    We pull out our phones. Puts in her name, phone fucks up. Says I need to get a new phone.

    Me: Why so I can compensate for something? Don’t worry, it’s big.
    HB7: lol (I shouldn’t have used this joke again)

    Then she just like… is staring at my lips, I’m pretty sure. I’m like, is there is something on my lips and I cover my mouth. She’s lols.

    We huge and then she moves her face close to my face, but I’m like so amazed this is happening that I don’t even really notice. I noticed it later on.

    There was other stuff in the middle but it was all roleplaying. Decided to call her Stacey and pretend she was my “dead” girlfriend. HB7 said that’s weird lol. So yeah did a bunch of role playing.

    Too bad, she gave me either a fake number or a wrong number, I dunno. A person responded to the text I sent her saying it was someone else. Weird. That’s never happened to me before. Usually it’ll just be a flat out ‘no’ if they didn’t want me to have their number.

    Anyway, that was the weekend. Went daygaming today, could’ve bounced with these two chicks to the bars. Didn’t cuz I’m still doing job research and didn’t want to sacrifice that time hanging with two older women who may or may not have put out. Sigh, maybe I should’ve tried. I need to get ahead in getting the rest of my life together (finding a better job), cuz that’s honestly more important.

    Shorter FR this time, but pretty tired. Feel free to skip breaking this one down YaReally if there’s nothing interesting here. I feel like it was a good day of doing things I didn’t want to:

    – definitely didn’t want to meetup with LondonHB6 chick, no opportunity to eject (lol)
    – did not want to go into mixed sets

    Skipped industry night because I was behind on work. This has to stop. I’m missing out on other opportunities because of my habit of completing my projects near their deadlines and procrastinating when I have plenty of time to get them done.

    Also forgot storytelling mission for the most part… maybe I should do it as a warmup instead of as a main goal. In all of those shorter earlier sets, I could’ve used it.

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    • Typos here, my bad. There were some other interactions, but pointless to make note of. Met two-set with HB9 and HB7 outside of McDonalds, was too intimidated to be myself. Eh.. AlphaWing straight up ignored her to talk to her less attractive friend… I feel like he did that on purpose, but he never said he did so I couldn’t tell ya.

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      • Talk to the ugly one, ignore the hot one (the target obviously). That’s a play straight out of the venerable Mystery Method.

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      • @YaReally
        Oh yeah… I remember reading that in Mystery Method. I feel like I keep rereading MM to little avail lol I’ve read it probably 5 times by now in its entirety… probably a sign that I should take a moment for it to sink in and not read it all in one sitting.

        Thanks man, appreciate it! I feel like I’m definitely getting much more solid (not as hyperactive/high energy as I was before — picture a black guy trying to be Tyler lol super gay). Being laconic definitely gets me longer interactions. Also finding that I’m becoming a lot more witty/sharp in my interactions. I’m saying things naturally as opposed to trying to come up with something in the moment. Feeling a lot more like myself.

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      • @PowerShank Guess the first part of my response to YaReally applies to you as well lol

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    • Not that I doubt the FRs posted here, but I couldn’t remember this kind of detail from a convo I had with my friend 2 hours ago. Do you guys take notes as you go, or do you have incredible memory skills. I’ve banged chics even if I forgot their name 5 seconds after meeting them. Maybe it’s a priorities thing. I honestly hope your recall helps you get laid. Whatever works. Cheers.

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      • I would say Hunter and Scray provide some of the best FRs in terms of the reality they paint and the honest they bring to the table.

        If you go out sober a lot of this stuff isn’t that hard to remember but I think the attention to detail is a pattern amongst us in the community as we tend to be more in our head and introverted.

        You may be a natural in the sense that you can’t explain a lot of this stuff nor can you articulate it as it’s going down. It’s common among some of my natural friends who look down on people who “overthink this stuff”

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      • Not an alpa or natural. Maybe I keep my situs simple. Never put much thought into it, I’ve never been accused of under thinking though. Good hunting, gentlemen.

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      • @JohnDSee
        “Not that I doubt the FRs posted here, but I couldn’t remember this kind of detail from a convo I had with my friend 2 hours ago.”

        I thought the same thing till I started writing them myself. A lot of guys doing this don’t drink and write their FRs as soon as they get home or the next day while it’s all still fresh in their mind. You’d be surprised how much you remember, especially when you’re pushing your boundaries. Personally I think a lot of a person’s memories are based on when they’re pushing themselves outside of their comfort zone…ie – I can’t remember a random Tuesday afternoon with my ex-GF because they all blur together because it was just routine comfort zone shit…but I can remember crystal clear the first time I approached a hot girl, that shit is burned in my brain ’cause I was so far out of my comfort zone lol

        @Hunter
        Gave a quick skim but I’ll give it a better read later. Just wanted to address this:

        “How do you transition to deep rapport???”

        Isolate. Get her away from the group/stimulus/interruptions/ADD-dance-floor/etc. Lead her to somewhere quieter in the club (there’s always quieter areas, usually on the far end from the dance floor area or a patio or different floor or even a bar to order waters from or just standing in a spot where there aren’t as many loud speakers playing music), pace her energy and then lead it down into the energy you want for deep rapport. You can build attraction in the high-energy start of the interaction but the actual seduction happens once you get her energy lowered into a state where you can get into deep rapport with her and really build a foundation. (not counting flash game lays of course)

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      • @JohnDSee
        Pretty much what YaReally said. I don’t think I wrote everything out in the longer day game session actually.

        Several things I left out due to fatigue/forgetfulness:

        – Teased me for calling her “dude”
        – Qualified her on if she cooked, said she doesn’t but can bake cookies.
        – Asked her if she danced, did the classic PUA twirl on her (she complied, but said she didn’t dance)
        – Told her her not having any friends was a dealbreaker and that she was a disappointment
        – She laughed as she told me all the things I said to insult her (I also asked her if she showered and why she was so pale lol)

        It was actually 15 mins long and really solid. I was standing a bit too far away I felt (and saw from a wing who recorded me), so that was when I decided to move in for the hug (should’ve been kiss).

        “Maybe it’s a priorities thing. I honestly hope your recall helps you get laid. Whatever works. Cheers.”

        Certainly hope so (and know so after seeing Scray’s transformation).

        @Immoralgables
        Appreciate it man! Taking nods from Scray’s FRs (rereading them as I haven’t read them since before I started going out). And yeah, don’t normally drink.

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      • @YaReally left reply up above.

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      • on July 31, 2014 at 4:28 am gunslingergregi

        get a stack of hundreds together walk around with that shit in your pocket instant boost in confidense

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    • Nice man, this FR is great. You should really compare this FR to your earliest ones. This is meaty.

      ‘No deep rapport in any of these. How do you transition to deep rapport??? I’m thinking it must be DHVing and then going into a deep rapport question.’

      A common theme in your interactions is that you jump the gun insanely fast. Like, there’s no doubt that later on there will be situations where you can just step in, see the opportunity, and make out with a chick without saying more than three or four words. But for now, just try to go with the basics. It’s a foundation.

      Keep in mind that when you’re out there, a huge part of it is outside of your control. Logistics problems, how her mood is that day, etc. etc. So, it’s a long-run type deal.

      But, that long interaction you posted is the answer to your own question. It’s only been two weeks and you’re already starting to develop the necessary skill set (yeah forreal!)

      ‘Me: Hey, are you racist?
      HB7: What?
      Me: Just kidding. Thought I’d stop you.
      HB7: Oh okay.
      Me: You have this nerdish face.’

      Awesome. You open it up, but you’re breezy. And you back off once you get her attention. This is very effective. The ‘just kidding,’ let’s her know that you’re a NORMAL COOL guy. ‘Thought I’d stop you,’ yeah, that’s something a NORMAL COOL guy would do to a girl he likes. ‘You have this nerdish face,’ …this is decent, but if we’re going this C&F route, I’d soften it a bit ‘you have this nerdish face, it’s cute in a unique way.’

      So you open her up and come off as a NORMAL COOL guy….what happens?

      She hooks.

      ‘Me: Yeah, you cosplay?
      HB7: What’s that?
      Me: It’s when you dress up as anime characters. I’m too nerdy for you.
      HB7: Oh okay lol
      Me: Are you a Democrat?
      HB7: Why do you say that?
      Me: Doesn’t matter I’m a conservative. I don’t believe in giving girls rights. I’d put you in a cellar and only pass you food underneath the bars.
      HB7: Lol and I’d just grasp at the tray trying to get at it.
      She was laughing a lot so she stayed.’

      ‘I’m too nerdy for you,’ while this is a little lol, you’re headed in the right direction — it’s a DQ. Now, it’s not the best DQ or the best way to DQ….but yeah, there it is. NORMAL COOL guy who is kind of DQ’ing himself. Fairly solid so far.

      ‘Are you a Democrat?’ Nice, nice. Dropping a charged question like this and leading it into the humor is great. And BOOM you suck her into your reality ‘and I’d just grasp at the tray trying to get at it.’

      ‘She was laughing a lot so she stayed.
      Me: We should get coffee sometime.
      HB7: I have a boyfriend.
      Me: So, I have a girlfriend.
      HB7: Lol
      Me: What you got there (pointing to her bag)?
      HB7: A bra from Victoria Secret.
      Me: You’re not going to tell me how big they are?
      HB7: Lol no
      Me: I’ll tell you how big I am (I look down)… 10, 11 inches.
      HB7: lol
      Me: I’m talking about my shoes. You thought I would tell you my dick size?Nope lol’

      Ha, now you’re running with the positive attention. At this point, after she hooks, start escalating. Fuck coffee, put your hand on her, touch her, do something. You created an opportunity. And at this point, a NORMAL COOL guy would escalate.

      You kind of are escalating though — you’re trying to make it sexual. It’s in a kind of awkward way; I prefer to verbally escalate with roleplaying — imagining us as bf/gf or some shit. So many guys talk about their dicks.

      ‘HB7: lol
      Me: Don’t worry, it’s big.’

      Missed opportunity to tell her how small it is lol. The ‘wet baby carrot’ routine is 100% legit field-certified. 0% failure rate on this end. Always raises value (Strange but true).

      ‘HB7: (she’s like staring into my eyes now) Where are you from?’

      If she really is staring into your eyes — kiss her. If you want help, just say ‘do you want to kiss me?’ if she says ‘no,’ then you can say ‘I didn’t say you could.’ Or if she says ‘maybe’ or something that isn’t ‘yes,’ just say ‘let’s find out.’ Even poorly executed, this has gotten me great results.

      ‘Small talk from here. She does marketing. Blah. Wasted a perfectly good opportunity to do deep rapport here JEEEZ WHY DO I KEEP FORGETTING
      Me: (so I run out of stuff to say… lol) Let’s get coffee right now (I grab her hand)’

      She’s waiting for you to DO SOMETHING.

      HB7: Wait no, they’re having a sale on X and today’s the last day.
      Me: Alright fine. Lol this has been fun. You’re really funny! I’ll get your number and we’ll get coffee… as friends.”

      And after this she hugs you and you still fail to escalate. Ya, you got caught up in it. Think of it this way, you pulled off a solid 30-40 seconds of game and you pretty much hooked her. That’s how strong it is lol.

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      • @Scray

        “A common theme in your interactions is that you jump the gun insanely fast. Like, there’s no doubt that later on there will be situations where you can just step in, see the opportunity, and make out with a chick without saying more than three or four words. But for now, just try to go with the basics. It’s a foundation.”

        Yeah, I’ll keep trying to SLOW IT DOWN. It’s actually more fun that way… not sure why I was in such a rush before…

        “But, that long interaction you posted is the answer to your own question. It’s only been two weeks and you’re already starting to develop the necessary skill set (yeah forreal!)”

        YES! About damn time lol

        ‘You have this nerdish face,’ …this is decent, but if we’re going this C&F route, I’d soften it a bit ‘you have this nerdish face, it’s cute in a unique way.’

        Not really familiar with C&F much anymore. Did you just read the stuff through a Google search? Found a sosuave link on it:

        http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=105520

        “Ha, now you’re running with the positive attention. At this point, after she hooks, start escalating. Fuck coffee, put your hand on her, touch her, do something. You created an opportunity. And at this point, a NORMAL COOL guy would escalate.”

        Lol and at this point I was like, shit if I make a move she’ll reject me. Better just grab her number instead.. boy was I wrong.

        “Missed opportunity to tell her how small it is lol. The ‘wet baby carrot’ routine is 100% legit field-certified. 0% failure rate on this end. Always raises value (Strange but true).”

        I actually did it a lot last year, I’ll give it a shot now that my calibration’s a lot better.

        “If she really is staring into your eyes — kiss her. If you want help, just say ‘do you want to kiss me?’ if she says ‘no,’ then you can say ‘I didn’t say you could.’ Or if she says ‘maybe’ or something that isn’t ‘yes,’ just say ‘let’s find out.’ Even poorly executed, this has gotten me great results.”

        Alright! Classic MM, let’s do it.

        “She’s waiting for you to DO SOMETHING.”

        Wow, didn’t even see that… she could’ve walked away anytime… I was just like, man, I wanna bang her… but… hmm, maybe she’ll reject me?

        “And after this she hugs you and you still fail to escalate. Ya, you got caught up in it. Think of it this way, you pulled off a solid 30-40 seconds of game and you pretty much hooked her. That’s how strong it is lol.”

        Yeah, FINALLY starting to see it. Can’t wait until next weekend so I can rack up some more field experience.

        Thanks for these comments man, they really help!

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      • Yeah it’s the only way, man. You just have to get out there. It’s actually insane sitting here and watching how much you’ve learned in JUST TWO weeks. Like, there’s a clear difference. If you keep it up, you’re going to shock yourself with how far you’ll go (I’m shocked for you already lol).

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    • >How do you transition to deep rapport???<

      Having honest interest in the other person. Just ask: "Why?"

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  45. ephobhrhererl

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  46. But wait but wait but wait but wait !

    You see, I just watched “Hitch” on Netflix, and you see, it appears that negroes are savvy and glamorous and the only members of homo sapiens to understand and therefore be able to truly seduce women.

    On quite a few other Hollywood titles on Netflix, the Negro is Always the one to get the white wimmenz.

    White men are just evil evil evil, and the Negro male with the black eyes devoid of evil visible pupils and the prognathic mandible – indicating a facial slope of approximately 70 degrees compared with 90 degrees for an (evil) white man and 60 degrees for a higher primate – the Black is ALWAYS the one that gets the white wimmenz to tingle.

    Therefore, based on my evidence as gathered through Netflix, I would say that all the research presented in this blog and its comment section is wrong Wrong WRONG, not just that it’s racist as fuck.

    Clearly, white males are the losers, and negro males especially ICBMs (Inner City Black Males), are the winners, when it comes to wooing White Wimmenz.

    Heck, here in New Orleans, I see white wimmenz arm in arm with negroes Every Single Day ! In fact, I see a lot of white wimmenz here who have bravely and courageously bettered the Human Race, by interbreeding with our Basketball American betters, and producing entire SUVs full of curly-haired mulattoes.

    Even the New York Times – the World’s newspaper of record – features stories about homosexual white males reproducing white babies through noble surregacy every single day, so to all you haters I say: Stand Down White Man ! The world is being transformed into a better place without and despite all your bothersome meddling.

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  47. on July 28, 2014 at 11:38 pm Alex Jones SuperFan

    This was informative for one who wasn’t sure if pick up artistry was anything more than general psycho-manipulative mind rape tactics that could also work on the male gender.

    Here’s an interesting question, though: will the bluepills eventually have to bow to the weight of the evidence and embrace it, will they continue on in their delusions, or will they be forced to acknowledge it while simultaneously denouncing it as wrong and insulting to “human dignity”?

    If they do accept it, I wonder if we can expect sexual anarchy to reign completely.

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  48. on July 29, 2014 at 12:12 am Mean Mr. Mustard.

    If a man is reliant on women, or the happiness of his woman for his happiness; he is setting himself up for bitter disappointment and exasperation.

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  49. Your analyses range from hilariously funny to utter nonsense.
    Of course women are a bit more cautious about men approaching them because they can tell in most cases what intentions drive them. Thanks to guys like you and your pitiful followers.
    But nonetheless there exists a big group of these so-called nice girls that appreciate when a guy doesn’t act like an immature imbecile but rather like a grown-up who is in peace with himself and can show real and adequate interest

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  50. Why is the WhyKny and his trusty steed!

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    • no, no … Lemme guess.

      YKW, I presume?

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      • Try to talk to me in a proper manner. Otherwise I won’t respond again.

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      • @ Ripley

        You do know what this website is for don’t ya?

        And these nice girls you speak of, I’m will to bet my dollars to your donuts that all of them are waiting for their Christian Grey while humming “I Will Never” by Garfunkel and Oates.

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  51. How to tell if a girl thinks you have a big dick.

    Send her a cock shot and if she replies with only a single word; she thinks its big.

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  52. on July 29, 2014 at 8:11 am Holden Caulfield

    slutty bachelorette (redundant!) fucks both guys, rejects the beta male:

    https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/bachelorette-final-rose-recap-andi-dorfmans-runner-confronts-032000802-us-weekly.html

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  53. So it is the YKW WhyKny and his circumcised mule!

    How low an once proud and productive tribe has fallen … reduced to frontrunning for the yankee-redneck compact … prostituting for scraps from Cracker…

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  54. Let me see… bitch… nice girl… bitch… nice girl… hmmmm…

    Which one’s got the bigger tits?

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  55. on August 1, 2014 at 9:48 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    About ten days ago I talked to a Swedish girl online and got her to show me some saucy pictures of her. She was online a couple of days ago when I wasn’t entirely sober so I decided to troll her with insults until she will stop talking to me. I wanted to see how many insults she will take if I do absolutely no calibration to her reactions.

    She asked me how am I and I told her that I’m happy because my secret book arrived. She obviously asked and I told her that Karl XVI(king of Sweden) would be disappointed in me if I told her.

    She misread a word so her answer didn’t make sense and then she corrected herself so I called her an illiterate Norwegian(because Swedes have jokes about dumb Norwegians). I teased her about how complicated the word she misread was(it was simple).

    After that, she said she’s glad she can see me in a good mood and I told her that it’s not my fault she kept looking at my crotch the other time because she could have seen I was in a good mood then too.

    She came up with some rationale for why she wasn’t looking at my crotch(didn’t show her my crotch on cam anyway, so I have no idea what she was on about) and I ignored it and made some comment about how people admire the statue of David despite not having any sexual intent and she asked me if I’m talking about David Beckham. I called her ignorant and told her that she must have skipped school a lot due to the bad weather or the education system there is trash. I teased her about being a class skipping bad girl for a bit despite her protests.

    She got back to the silly book thing and I told her I’ll tell her what my book is only if she tells me a secret about herself she never told anyone else. She didn’t want to so I told her I wasn’t looking for her credit card number, I wanted to know something like her most vivid memory. She said she was harassed as a child and sensed it bothered her so I decided to let it be and I teased her about an older celebrity she finds attractive because he’s arrogant(lol, who said women aren’t honest?). Eventually she told me a secret. She was a webcam girl for a short time and I told her jokingly that her being a slut is something I already knew and told her about my book.

    She asked me why I asked her about her vivid memory and I told her that I thought it’s a more interesting thing for her to tell me than her cup size and then I teased her about her harassment memory, making it about others harassing her because she had big boobs. I told her a vivid memory of mine that resulted in me landing face first in a puddle as a child and I told her it gave me superhuman strength. She asked me what strength and I told her that I can read minds and that currently she’s thinking about how much she’d like it if I ruled Sweden. She said she’d move to Norway and I thanked her for her eagerness to please me by expanding my realm.

    She said some stuff about Oslo and I started teasing her about Oslo being a codename for her pussy and I’m not entirely sure how I started making fun of her by telling her I’m picturing her as a red headed dwarf and she said that she’s blonde and I made fun of her for thinking being ginger is more offensive than being a dwarf and I belittled her protests by framing them as me ‘withstanding her wrath and fury’. She said something about her picturing me as bald and I told her that she’s thinking about my crotch again. She said that she likes dick and asked me if I’m thinking about her pussy and I asked him what kind of guy does she think I am and somehow spun it into me liking black girls. Then I think I passed out. :/ She did email me a picture of her pussy though and asked me what do I think of it.

    This being said, drunk offensive drivel is apparently better game than calculated compliments and sucking up to girls. I don’t think she would have put up with as much of it if I wouldn’t have talked with her before, but it was rather funny that my intention to piss her off resulted in her sending me a gina pic.

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  56. […] women want men who are respected by other men, and who are desired by other women. In other words, women want a jerk who discards most women, but who will give them their […]

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